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I Used To Love Her....LO Fucking L
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Yank warns of web dating scam, seeks Cebu police help
By Chito O. Aragon
Cebu Daily News
First Posted 07:38:00 11/26/2009
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Foreigners, beware of this modus operandi.
This American even brought a bouquet of flowers to the airport in Florida, United States to fetch his Filipina girlfriend who had vowed to start a relationship with him.
But after four hours of waiting, Allan Toor asked an attendant at the ticket counter if Arkishra Toribio Manuel was listed in any of the four scheduled flights from the Philippines.
There was none.
He then realized that he had been duped by the woman whom he had given at least P100,000.
Toor was so devastated that he was confined in a hospital for three days because of stress.
But now that he is back on his feet again, Toor of Hollywood, Florida, is seeking justice.
He has asked the Cebu City Police Office (CCPO) to investigate and locate Manuel whom he met in a dating website.
“I am now asking you to look into this matter as she may be making thousands of dollars and scamming others, however if she took the money from me, where is she now? Still in Manila or home (sic),” said Toor in his letter to Senior Supt. Patrocinio Comendador Jr., Cebu City police director.
But the CCPO doesn't have the equipment to track down Internet crimes. Instead, the CCPO asked the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group in Central Visayas (CIDG-7), which has a cyber crimes section in Camp Crame.
Chief Insp. George Ylanan, chief of CCPO's Criminal Investigation and Detective Management Branch (CIDMB), said they would just coordinate with the CIDG-7.
Toor's complaint was contained in a letter dated Oct. 19 which the American sent to Commendador through registered mail.
In his letter, he detailed how he was duped by a woman who was allegedly based in Cebu and whom he met through a dating website.
He described himself in the letter as a “member of good standing” in the dating website who was looking for a Filipina bride.
Toor said he received an email on Sept. 9 from a woman who first identified herself as “ATM.” The woman claimed that she was 29 years old, single and had no children.
Although she was a native of Zamboanga, the woman said she was working in Cebu. She claimed that she was employed in the “medical field” but her contract was to end in a few days.
Their relationship later blossomed as they exchanged emails. She later identified herself as Arkishra Manuel. “We build friendship that leads to a serious relationship,” he said.
In her succeeding emails, the woman claimed that she was supposed to work at the Hollywood Medical Center but decided to cancel her contract because her father was sick and later died on June 7.
She told Toor that she used to stay with a female friend, who had met an American through the dating website and was now happily married. Her friend advised her to try her luck in meeting her mate through the dating website.
It was there that she found Toor.
“When I told her that I lived in Hollywood, Florida, she told me that sometime back, she had sponsorship offered to her for the Memorial Hospital but due to her father's illness, she did not take it,” Toor said in his letter.
The sponsorship, he added, was offered to Manuel by an agency at no cost to her.
“After a lot of emails back and forth, she told me that she found out that the Memorial Hospital was bringing over 18 nurses from the Philippines on Oct. 13,” he wrote.
She then packed her bags and flew to Manila. Toor said Manuel sent her pictures of her flight along with other pictures like her US visa.
When she arrived in Manila, Toor said she contacted another agency.
“Being suspicious, I then went to the member ID number of C01265936 where she first contacted me and found out that it had been withdrawn,” Toor said.
Manuel then told Toor that there was an opening at the Memorial Hospital since one nurse had fallen ill and could not leave for the US.
But, she added she would need money to process her visa and pay for placement fees especially that a travel agency, which was supposed to book her flight, noticed that her visa would expire in a month.
“She then started to ask for help, money wise and I started to send her money as she wished. Each day, something else came up, rent on her dormitory, visa, air fare, agency etc and (she) promised to repay me as her new contract was for 30 dollars per hour,” Toor said.
He said he called the hospital and found out that the pay of a operating room nurse was $32 per hour.
Toor said he continued sending her money and she would send back her flight schedule. She said she and the other nurses were supposed to arrive on Oct. 13.
The American asked her to arrive early so they could get acquainted and could look around for an apartment.
“Matter of fact, I live a mile away from the hospital. She vowed to try and start a relationship with me,” Toor said.
Manuel gave Toor her flight schedules and even seat numbers as well as stopovers. But later, she revised it again and that she would now arrive at 6 p.m. of Oct. 16, instead of Oct. 13.
“I sat at the airport with flowers from 5 p.m. through 9 p.m. watching for her from four Atlanta flights and then went back to the ticket counter and showed them the flight schedule she sent me. They informed me that she was not listed on any flight nor was there a confirmation,” Toor said.
Realizing that he had been scammed, Toor said he got so stressed out that he was confined in the hospital for three days. He didn't hear anything from Manuel so he decided to inform the website administrator.
He also went to the Memorial Hospital and talked with the administrator who told him that there was never any move to bring in 18 nurses from the Philippines
In fact, he added, the hospital was laying off nurses. The hospital administrator advised him to contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which he did. He also consulted a lawyer who advised him to write a letter to Cebu City police.
“Now, if she removed her first identity from the site, how many other identities does she have and who else is being scammed? Seeing her on the airplane flying to Manila had convinced me that it was on the up-and up. Seeing copies of her friends and her visa up to date also made me believe in her and thank God I made copies of everything,” he added.
Now Toor said he wanted the police to look into the matter since Manuel may be scamming other foreigners as well.
Supt. Ritchie Posadas, deputy chief of CIDG-7, said they had a division in Manila that was tasked to investigate cyber crimes.
But he added they would wait for the formal turnover of the case from the CCPO.
Posadas said they had met such problems and had been asked by their central office to conduct an investigation.
Once they received the case folder, he added, they would immediately coordinate with their central office, which had the equipment to go ahead with the probe.
Normally, Posadas said cases like these would fall under the Office of Business Concerns, a unit of CIDG central office.
Ylanan of the CIIB said they had checked the address in Consolacion town given by Manuel to Toor. It turned out that Liomo Highway, sitio Street, Consolacion doesn't exist.
He also noticed that the picture on Manuel's visa looked like actress Karylle Padilla, daughter of veteran actress Zsa zsa Padilla.
Even the pictures, which Manuel told Toor were taken from the plane, appeared to have been taken from Padilla's blog on her multiply accounts.
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Yahoo Messenger - where do i start
Hi
I'm interested in trying out YM to meet some filipina ladies.
Is there a method? Seems the chat room on YM is just full of bable. I'm I looking in the wrong place.
Any advice appreciated.
Regards
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right tool wrong methodology
[QUOTE=Iwannahumpalot]Hi
I'm interested in trying out YM to meet some filipina ladies.
Is there a method? Seems the chat room on YM is just full of bable. I'm I looking in the wrong place.
Any advice appreciated.
Regards[/QUOTE]
Yes forget the chat rooms.
What you need to do is to get the Yahoo IDs of a bunch of interested girls, then add them to your contacts list.
For some reason (would be intrigued to know why) whereas MSN (now Windows Live) and Skype are the dominant IM clients in most countries,in the Phils Yahoo Messenger (YM) is totally dominant.
What you need to do is create a profile on DateInasia and tagged (see my posting a few days ago for a complete discussion), initiate discussions with girls you fancy and ask for their YM , then off you go.
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Dumb and dumber
an obvious but very fruitful way of meeting new playmates is to ask your old playmates to find you some. i have a delicious, rep001ty young friend that i have known and enjoyed many times but who is thankfully not too overburdened with unnecessary brain matter. a pinay bimbo. her name is dee but for some reason during this ym chat she decided to call herself bev, which confused matters no end.
me: hi
her: asl
me: is that dee?
her: yeah
her: why did u know me?
me: yeah its cs
her: cs?
her: oh yeah
me: yup
her: sory
me: friend of dee
her: i put only in my fs
her: i dont know how to send to ure e mail
me: share photos on ym
her: ok wait
her: ok
thats fine
me: ok u have to offer to share photos!
her: wait im looking for that photo internet is too slow
me: ok
me: ok i accepted
her: sory cs
me: ok no worries
her: accept
me: i have already accepted
me: you can share now
her: but here not working
her: accept again
me: i cannot it wont let me. click the photo button
her: i click alredy
her: u need to accept
me: try send a file in actions
her: w8 cant see again
me: you sent a pic of some water lily's!
her: ahehehh
her: w8
me: nice but not what i expected
me: u still awake?
her: tell me if u see my phot
me: yes is that u?
her: yeah
me: any more
me: any more?
her: u see all
me: very pretty - is the last one taken now in web cafe?
her: wow
me: yes i think so
her: o want
me: how old r u?
her: now 21
me: dee said u were 20! any babies
her: u though u asking my age
her: red is 19 years old
me: oh i see there are 3 of u
me: or am i getting confused
her: ok let me introduse u 1 by 1
her: last one in the internet caffe....she is red
her: she is 20yrs old
her: she has a baby
her: the 2nd to the last....she is mae she is 20 years old she dont have baby
me: who are u? dee:d
her: the first photo thats me
me: who are u?
her: im now 21 sexy and ofcurs no baby and single
her: aahehhe
her: dee
me: who is bev?
her: me too
me: ah u r dee and bev?
her: yeah same
me: wow u r really confusing me ..lol
her: ahehehh
her: anyway the 2nd photo is kaye she is 20 years old too and no baby
me: oh so there is 4 of u?
me: all available for fun or not?
her: available
her: u want all?
me: hahaha - not strong enough
her: ahehhe
me: u stay home 2moro?
her: yeah
me: shame - could meet one day next week if im not busy
her: ok
me: when ur free and 1 of yr friends
her: ok red is always free and the other girl
me: which one?
her: the last one in the internet caffe
me: sorry - her name?
her: her name is red
her: red
me: oh who else is free next week?
her: all free
me: ok, i'll be in touch ok
her: ok
after this little exchange, i had to go lie down in darkened room;).
her friends are hot and no doubt i will get around to them all in time but in maximum multiples of two and not all 4 at once as dee/bev suggested.
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good strategy
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]An obvious but very fruitful way of meeting new playmates is to ask your old playmates to find you some. .[/QUOTE]
Yes this is an important part of my strategy.
As soon as the girls know you are just interested in fun rather than getting married they are often keen to bring along friends as they feel easier to have fun and to give the other girls an earning opportunity. My record was 9 girls in my room - only managed to do 3 of them though - and got some impressed/astounded looks from the doormen.
My nurse friend has been busy recruiting her classmates to meet me when i return to phils soon. One (who I have met and is very cute) is very up for a threesome, another two who are apparently just as pretty are up for being fucked, but apparently she hasn't let them know that she will be licking them out before I do them.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Yes this is an important part of my strategy.
As soon as the girls know you are just interested in fun rather than getting married they are often keen to bring along friends as they feel easier to have fun and to give the other girls an earning opportunity. My record was 9 girls in my room - only managed to do 3 of them though - and got some impressed/astounded looks from the doormen.
My nurse friend has been busy recruiting her classmates to meet me when i return to phils soon. One (who I have met and is very cute) is very up for a threesome, another two who are apparently just as pretty are up for being fucked, but apparently she hasn't let them know that she will be licking them out before I do them.[/QUOTE]
Having met your nurse friend Greg she had a nice friend with her (her name began with H) and certainly she is up for naughty things. Have fun and be a naughty boy. Ask friend if it is H.
9 girls......my record is 4 but even for an old fat bugger like me I did all 4 as am a greedy boy and it was my birthday treat care of another ISG member in the UAE
Have fun
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Yes forget the chat rooms.
What you need to do is to get the Yahoo IDs of a bunch of interested girls, then add them to your contacts list.
For some reason (would be intrigued to know why) whereas MSN (now Windows Live) and Skype are the dominant IM clients in most countries,in the Phils Yahoo Messenger (YM) is totally dominant.
What you need to do is create a profile on DateInasia and tagged (see my posting a few days ago for a complete discussion), initiate discussions with girls you fancy and ask for their YM , then off you go.[/QUOTE]
I agree! But to make things easier on yourself, make sure you make seperate groups in your YM, e.g. Davao, Angeles, Cagayan, Cebu or whatever to keep all the girls organized. I also include them in my cell phone address book with YM id, dating site id, location, cell number if they gave it to me, and any other info I have on them. It's always easier to delete their info later if it's not needed rather then trying to remember how and when you met them. In Preferences on YM, click on Archive and click "Yes" on storing all chat sessions. That way you can keep all lies (yours and hers) straight. This mongering stuff is such a hassle....but it's more fun than bowling I suppose!
Yella Man
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[QUOTE=Yella Man]
But to make things easier on yourself, make sure you make seperate groups in your YM, e.g. Davao, Angeles, Cagayan, Cebu or whatever to keep all the girls organized. I also include them in my cell phone address book with YM id, dating site id, location, cell number if they gave it to me, and any other info I have on them. It's always easier to delete their info later if it's not needed rather then trying to remember how and when you met them.
Yella Man[/QUOTE]
Also when you have this stored and chat with the lady, it can impress that you have 'remembered' her so well after a few days if non chat - has worked wonders for me as they think am so clever and wise. I also add birthdays, family info etc, cos nice to keep up a chat and intersperse it with interesting and respectful questions on family, job etc (rather than the more starightforward "are you shaved, do you CIM": :D)
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[QUOTE=Yella Man]I agree! But to make things easier on yourself, make sure you make seperate groups in your YM, e.g. Davao, Angeles, Cagayan, Cebu or whatever to keep all the girls organized. I also include them in my cell phone address book with YM id, dating site id, location, cell number if they gave it to me, and any other info I have on them. It's always easier to delete their info later if it's not needed rather then trying to remember how and when you met them. In Preferences on YM, click on Archive and click "Yes" on storing all chat sessions. That way you can keep all lies (yours and hers) straight. This mongering stuff is such a hassle....but it's more fun than bowling I suppose!
Yella Man[/QUOTE]Thats exactly what I do. Works for me like a charm.
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Inside info on scams
I was browsing DIA and came across this 27yo virgin. I thought her profile information was worth a read. She wants to warn us all about some scams in Zamboanga !
[quote]letletshylady" from siayan, zamboanga del norte :
".. i want to fall inlove, to be kissed and hug-and to be married....to all men that can read my profile especially from western country be ware and carefull..this will can help you...don not believe on girl that looks very sexy,pretty,beautiful and lovely,they are not real girl-they are a ladyboy pretending as a girl,i say this words coz i observe i was working on cafe as a computer attendant,i have a lot of costumers a ladyboy,they sending a hot naked pix of a girl to thier chatmate and ask money or help..and i saw also they wearing a sexy shorsts pants and mini-skirt but totally they are not real girl they are just pretending as a girl...they wearing a artificial long hair[wig]so that they look like a lady..please dont believe...thank you..to all that can read my profile here good luck to your search..and godbless![/quote]Nice, a kind and concerned girl.
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Spelling , English screw ups etc..
Ok if English was not my first language maybe I'd be crap at it too. Or more crap than I already am LOL.
But ocassionally in some websites theres examples of seriously mangled English that makes a smiles.
Todays classic was delivered by a young lady of 26 from Davao del Norte (or is it Naughty?) who states
"We grewned up with Jesus Christ in our hearts"
I never knew the verb "to grow" could be changed so much.
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Most English verbs are conjugated with -ed to form past tense -- but then there are the irregulars. Native English preschoolers make similar mistakes with irregular verbs. "I eated candy", or sometimes, "I ated candy."
I suspect your friend is mixing grow / grew / grown / -ed.
On the positive side, her confusion of the rules of English have allowed her to create a new word. Bless her Jesus heart.
X (kind of irregular myself)
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
"We grewned up with Jesus Christ in our hearts"
I never knew the verb "to grow" could be changed so much.[/QUOTE]
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"You take my virgin"
And the classic, "Oh you so beeeg!"
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My favorite is, "When can we fucks?"
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Friendster Searches
We all know Friendster is a good resource for checking a girl's photos. Has anyone worked out a sensible and efficient way of searching for new girls and contacting them, and if so have you had much success compared with the other free sites such as DIA and TAgged?
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Honor amongst monger rats?
I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught ‘in delicto’, arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it’s not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum:eek:.
Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn’t had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.
She is a rather nice MILF type and I’m sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it’s not as if I would be fucking my best friend’s wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.
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what s the point
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught ‘in delicto’, arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it’s not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum:eek:.
Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn’t had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.
She is a rather nice MILF type and I’m sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it’s not as if I would be fucking my best friend’s wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.[/QUOTE]
With the phils awash with talent,, i'm not sure what the point of potentiallyopening a can or worms would be
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught 'in delicto', arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it's not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum.
Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn't had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.
She is a rather nice MILF type and I'm sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it's not as if I would be fucking my best friend's wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.[/QUOTE]For a moment I thought it was my mate who you were tallking about.
He was caught with a few numbers on his phone that shouldn't have been there (always always have two phones!) and some emails that shouldn't have been there (never ever ever let spouse near the private parts of your pc. Always log out and always have a few email adds that are totally private from your " real life"). Anyways he got caught, got shit, Pinay wife mad as hell. But she is NOT a cute MILF so it can't be her.
Its a curious question that you ask. But given that we tend not to have many scruples here (unless its about calling Pinays " flippers ") then I'd probably meet her and see what happens.
But I would also make sure to protect myself by not giving out too many details about who you are etc. So the replica Man you shirt with your family name on the back might not be a good idea. LOL.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]With the phils awash with talent,, i'm not sure what the point of potentiallyopening a can or worms would be[/QUOTE]
Exactly what I was thinking. But I guess it is the risk and Mrs Robinson factor and I do like the occasional MILF experience as a counterpoint to the usual stream of dollies that I normally have. The change of pace is refreshing
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Exactly what I was thinking. But I guess it is the risk and Mrs Robinson factor and I do like the occasional MILF experience as a counterpoint to the usual stream of dollies that I normally have. The change of pace is refreshing[/QUOTE]
yes but there's an eve gretaer supply of MILfs in the phils so the reality is the real turnon is the another guy's wife aspect
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]yes but there's an eve gretaer supply of MILfs in the phils so the reality is the real turnon is the another guy's wife aspect[/QUOTE]
Yes, the 'risk and Mrs Robinson' factor that I already mentioned.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught ‘in delicto’, arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it’s not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum:eek:.
Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn’t had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.
She is a rather nice MILF type and I’m sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it’s not as if I would be fucking my best friend’s wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.[/QUOTE]
Cunning Stunt,
Go right ahead and meet her for coffee and cream. A fellow monger would not begrudge you a few rounds with his spent hen. I dare say that her disposition will be much improved after the engagement. So, actually you'd be helping that monger by working off some of the old clucker's pent up anger. It might be a very passionate experience for you. She is likely to be very lively in the sack as she is fucking for vengeance.
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Oh yeah. I remember an upper-class pinoy I knew in the South. He was virtually "separated" from his wife, but still living in the same house with her! He was running around with lots of local chickas. But she still had some power over him as every time he heard that his wife was in the area he took off scared. Kind of like Captain Hook and the alligator in Peter Pan.
And his 40-something wife, who was not at all bad looking, was on the make in a subtle way. She didn't want me, but definitely zeroed in on a 20-something partner of mine. It was funny.
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You seem to focus on the negative side of everything. Do you enjoy your life?
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[QUOTE=Warbucks]As we can see from the back stabbing, personal attacks and put downs on various threads there is no honor amongst mongers. His wife should be fucked in all holes but what happens if the shoe is on the other foot?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Cunning Stunt,
Go right ahead and meet her for coffee and cream. A fellow monger would not begrudge you a few rounds with his spent hen. I dare say that her disposition will be much improved after the engagement. So, actually you'd be helping that monger by working off some of the old clucker's pent up anger. It might be a very passionate experience for you. She is likely to be very lively in the sack as she is fucking for vengeance.[/QUOTE]
There's probably an 80% chance that it would play out this way. But not for sure. Some guys are psycho jealous guys, and you may find yourself embroiled in a complicatated emotional situation. Personally in light or so many other options I would just pick a non attached girl but each to his own.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
But I would also make sure to protect myself by not giving out too many details about who you are etc. So the replica Man you shirt with your family name on the back might not be a good idea. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Hey, I know you are a grandmaster at this game but you are really teaching granny to suck eggs here ..:D.
And although I wear my Man U shirt with pride, I wouldn't be seen dead with any players name or number on the back. And as to a non-players name on the back of the glorious red ..your joking ..should be a hanging offence!!!
BTW - Did you see what the second XI did to the German champions the other night?
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Chat stories come true
I know there are a lot of old hands here who know asia and the Philippines very well much more than I, but I thought I'd share some of my experiences with you all & get some feedback/input.
I created an account on DIA a few months back, posted an oblique photo on there & was fairly overt on my profile that I was not looking for anything serious. Also, just kept it up for a week until I hit it off with a couple of ladies and took my picture off and don't look at it much anymore.
Short of it is I struck up a friendship with 2 ladies from the Phil and still keep in regular contact with both.
One of the ladies is a real story. We chatted by text only a few times, then by cam, but she would not show her complete face. Then she says she wants to email me. I say sure. She then sends an email story out of a movie. She posted the account and the photo online for her sister who just had an illegitimate child & she is looking for a guy for her. Right.
But it's okay as I know she probably just doesn't want to admit she was looking for someone to play with. She says she did not expect to meet someone like me here & she feels like she needs to come clean. She is really married to a guy who works overseas & is never home and who is kind of a jerk to her so we see each other for the first time and after a few weeks, we send signals to each other that we want to do more than chat. & we do more than chat she's really incredible, very attractive & dynamic. Multi-orgasmic, university educated, cool, smart. Wow. Who knew?
The other is substantially younger, but we chatted for 3 months before anything ever happened. She's not as worldly or wise, but she's a handful too & really curvy and smart quick witted.
Both want to meet me in person the next time I am the Philippines. Could be trouble ahead.
So. There are some real gems in the Philippines. My rules are that I have been very honest about who I am, what I am looking for, and treat them with respect and as a genuine friend.
I've also kept up via sms and phone calls with a real hotty philippina I met in Hong Kong seen her twice in the past 6 months will see her again in a couple of months. She's genuinely hot & is an incredibly creative in bed, but much moodier and erratic.
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well...
hmmm...Ubique,..just meet them and fuck them LOL, I mean what else can I say. Enjoy live to the up most.Dont think so much, they also don't think so much and live from one day to another. Maybe when you touch Philippines soil, you will find already some other fine ass in Manila. Geez, with so many baklas in the Philippines and short dicked guys its heaven place for foreigners, di ba?
BTW I was away from the forum for some weeks due business trips in Europe.
Shagged my best friends wife :D which I'm also not proud of, but that's life. However I know her longer then he does. (yes she work in a camsite before).
With the age of 27 she was the eldest women I shagged. Living in the Philippines made me a bit choosy if it come to age. However she was very lively in bed. Well she didn't had a dick since years :D. Im allways willing to help out :D. Speaking of this, the next one Im going to meet is around 30, her family is well off and I know her from facebook. So, lets see how that works out. She told me she also likes girls :D Life is good hahahaha.
Anyway Im back in two weeks in the Philippines and Im pretty sure I party new year in AC as always, except my litte GF from Lau union will fuck me to dead..but that wont happen. If somebody is around and wanted to meet up for a beer, please PM me.
Blink having a BEcks beer now. Guess where I am :D
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Yes, the 'risk and Mrs Robinson' factor that I already mentioned.[/QUOTE]I'd wear protection if I was you. Apart from the pregnancy thing, it is likely that the hubby has also been bonking her, despite what she might say. The women are usually submissive to the hubby even if she doesn't like him. It seems a cultural thing. Also if she is willing to go with you, she may also be going with someone else that you don't know about.
If he has been shagging around he could be loaded with anything, and so could she.
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2 cents worth - a little late
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I have been chatting online recently to an attractive older woman who is married to a foreigner who she caught ‘in delicto’, arranging his next bonk session with his latest little fucklet. Now she wants to meet and from the tone of our chats, it’s not only for coffee! Obviously I cannot give any further details as the husband sounds like a monger (albeit a chastened one) and, who knows, might even be a member of this forum:eek:.
Do I go ahead and meet her and give her what she wants or shrug her off as being too much trouble? I told her that she was just trying to get back at her errant husband but she insists that all she wants is a good seeing to, something she hasn’t had much of recently. Obviously she will not admit the truth even to herself and, of course, hell hath no fury like a Pinay scorned, etc.
She is a rather nice MILF type and I’m sorely tempted but is it rather amoral? Then again when was there any real morality in any of the games we play and it’s not as if I would be fucking my best friend’s wife, but the wife of another cheating monger rat.[/QUOTE]
I read about your dilemma just now, and thought I would throw out my own opinion on your situation.
As it has been my limited experience, most Filipinas are married, or at the very least, a single mother. Therefore, even the 18 year old little waif you pick up could be a MILF. Most that are willing to meet with a monger are pulling on the wallets of many others. So when you fuck one of them, you are potentially fucking the main squeeze of a fellow mongerer. Possibly even that of another ISG member.
I guess it all comes down to what you personally feel is right or wrong. My worst fear in this situation, would be the hubby finding her in my bed, and becoming enraged that someone else is servicing her while he has been searching for others to service. This could be a very dangerous game to play. Worse yet, the wifey might use you to make hubby jealous, and try to put on a public show with you for his benefit.
Enjoy the game!
HW
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Hey, I know you are a grandmaster at this game but you are really teaching granny to suck eggs here ..:D.
And although I wear my Man U shirt with pride, I wouldn't be seen dead with any players name or number on the back. And as to a non-players name on the back of the glorious red ..your joking ..should be a hanging offence!!!
BTW - Did you see what the second XI did to the German champions the other night?[/QUOTE]Aston Villa didn't score as much as I did this weekend, but I guess one shot was enough. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder] This could be a very dangerous game to play. Worse yet, the wifey might use you to make hubby jealous, and try to put on a public show with you for his benefit.
Enjoy the game!
HW[/QUOTE]
I suspect that this lady is just out to get laid. She gave me her real name and I was able to Google her and found out that everything she told me about her job and location were correct. So I am the one who hold all the real aces.
As FF suggested, I do use a pseudonym both as a name and email address so there is no way that she or her errant husband could locate me. I am actually, despite my online persona, a quite reserved, diffident and private person;).
We have more or less agreed to meet in a neutral venue (a mall) and if we click, repair to a nearby motel. Question is will troublesome little head overrule sensible big head yet again? I suspect so but we will see.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Aston Villa didn't score as much as I did this weekend, but I guess one shot was enough. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Grrrrr....
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Some Filipinas can read!
I was amazed to receive a message today from a DIA girl attempting a first contact with me! She actually quoted a line out of my profile.
Some time ago, after reading a suggestion on this forum, I posted my "bad boy" DIA profile. I had been using a "nice guy" profile up to that point. But a steady gf (that didn't know about the "bad boy" profile) asked me to stop using DIA. And besides, I was getting more interest from the girls with the "bad boy" profile anyhow. So I have all but abandoned the "nice guy" profile. Now that the gf is gone, I'm using DIA more frequently to setup some hopefully assured non-pro pussy on my next visit. My worst problem now, is that there are so many that want a piece of me. I might never be able to leave the PI if I try to service all of these cuties!
I truly believe that the "bad boy" profile works better than the "nice guy" one. The girls may not want to admit that they really want to be fucked. But their responses to my different profiles show it pretty clearly.
Happy mongering!
HW
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My nephew
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]I read about your dilemma just now, and thought I would throw out my own opinion on your situation.
As it has been my limited experience, most Filipinas are married, or at the very least, a single mother. Therefore, even the 18 year old little waif you pick up could be a MILF. Most that are willing to meet with a monger are pulling on the wallets of many others. So when you fuck one of them, you are potentially fucking the main squeeze of a fellow mongerer. Possibly even that of another ISG member.
I guess it all comes down to what you personally feel is right or wrong. My worst fear in this situation, would be the hubby finding her in my bed, and becoming enraged that someone else is servicing her while he has been searching for others to service. This could be a very dangerous game to play. Worse yet, the wifey might use you to make hubby jealous, and try to put on a public show with you for his benefit.
Enjoy the game!
HW[/QUOTE]
Speaking of MILF's, the other day...
One day little Johnny came home early from school and heard some "weird" noises coming from upstairs. He goes up to investigate and when he opens the door to his parents bedroom, he sees Dad just pummeling the wife doggy style. Dad is just putting it to her and she is yelling and screaming, and little Johnny gets upset and runs downstairs crying.
Well, Dad finishes up and decides its time to go downstairs and have "the talk" with his son. As he dresses in his robe and heads downstairs, he hears some other screaming and yelling, so he begins to rush not sure of what he will find.
As he enters the living room, he sees Grandma, face down ass up, getting pummeled by little Johnny from behind. He screams, "What the hell is going on here"?
And little Johnny looks up and says, "Not so funny when it's your mom is it asshole!"
True story...:)
(not really, its a Robin Williams joke)
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Hey Carmex!
Stop telling all my dirty little secrets! :eek: Grandma was asking for it! ;)
Err.....uh....Not true at all!!!!!! I've always live in a single story house! :D
HW
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Shes put the baby WHERE ???
[quote]Hi, I am Emily. I am 30 years old. I am Im a single mom who is workinng here with a musical band to sustain my kids there in the Philippines.
I\'m failure about in loving a person. I love previously a guy which I didn\'t know that he is still a married person. He said previously that he is separated and annul with his wife. I lately know that he is a muslim and I am his second wife which is prohibited to my religions because I\'m a Roman Catholic. We have a 5 years old child now who is there in the Philippines.I am not marry of that person even I have a Baby in my tomb. I want those who can mingle with other person.[/quote]So if you are free to mingle in her tombs you might have a chance !
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Sad but true....
Got a message from "needlove01".,. Describes herself as 18. We go thru the Hi Hello, dance.
I ask her why her profile says she has a kid and shes only 18. She says actually I have two kids and I had my first kid at 13! At 13 only!
Second one at 15.
Clearly she must have been off school on the day they taught the sex education class. Or maybe the good ol Catholic Church is happy at this poor kids outcome in life. She has no chance and no future.
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[QUOTE=Warbucks]
Once they received the case folder, he added, they would immediately coordinate with their central office, which had the equipment to go ahead with the probe.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I bet they'll have their best detectives on the case...
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The mongers missus
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I suspect that this lady is just out to get laid. [/QUOTE]
...mission accomplished and boy, did that lady need laying real good n' hard.
Do I feel guilty? Nope!
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DIA is....
[QUOTE=Sexy Geezer]Sorry for my ignorance, but what is DIA?[/QUOTE]DIA is the acronym for a dating website, Date in Asia, where some mongers meet girls. It is located at [url]www.dateinasia.com[/url]
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[QUOTE=Sexy Geezer]Sorry for my ignorance, but what is DIA?[/QUOTE]It,s an asian dating website called Dateinasia
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DIA = Good hunting grounds!
I have been using DIA ([url]www.dateinasia.com[/url]) for about 4 or 5 years now. As many other mongers have stated on here, it is very hit or miss on finding some action, most girls say that they are looking for a husband, and many will only say "Hi" or "Hello" when they send you a message. But you do meet the occasional exception.
Initially, I started using DIA with what I call my good guy profile. In this profile, I did not mention anything about sex. I got a fair amount of responses to this profile. Then, I read a report on here about how some mongers had a good guy profile and a bad boy profile. I decided to give this a try, and proceeded to post my bad boy profile immediately. Soon after posting it, I had several girls (mostly young Filipinas) sending me messages.
However, one message that stood out, was from a woman in her mid 30's. It was a short message in reply to what I wrote in my profile, which simply asked "You really like sex a lot, don't you?" Well I could not let an opportunity like that pass me by! I sent an immediate reply which said "Yes! As much as I can get!" That set the stage for a long string of messages from this woman. Along the way, she revealed to me that she was not interested in having sex with me, because she had a boyfriend. But she offered to introduce me to many of her friends that might be interested in having sex with me. Of course, I agreed to this!
Before I ever had a chance to go to meet this woman, or her friends, she broke up with her boyfriend, moved to another area, and cut off communications with me. Until now, that is. Today, she buzzed me on Yahoo and we started a long, and rather interesting chat session. It started out very innocent, with casual conversation about our respective families, what we did for Christmas, and etc. Then, it somehow drifted into talking about sex. As I recall (I'll have to review my Yahoo archive), she asked me how much sex I was getting. Then it grew into us discussing our preferences and fantasies. The next thing I know, she was asking me if I would fuck her the during my next visit to the Philippines. Me being the gentleman that I am, I told her that I would not dishonor her like that because I valued our friendship to much. BULLSHIT!!!!! :D I told her that I not only want to fuck her, but I want to play out all of the fantasies we had been discussing and any more that we can think of! She explained to me that she preferred CG style, and I replied that I enjoy that also, but I want doggie sometimes too! She said "I like that style, but I have never been fucked in the ass. Would you be my first?" In my mind, I was thinking "Hell Yeah!!!" But I simply told her that was totally up to her.
By the end of the chat session (at least 2 hours) she was telling me that she was very wet, and wanting to masturbate thinking about what we will do! She told me that she is willing to fuck me 4 or more times a day, and she does not mind if I go out to fuck other girls. She said she wants me to do anything that makes me happy! She even agreed to try a bi-sexual 3 some with me and an unknown girl. So if any of you mongers in the Cebu area know of girls that like to go bi, please let me know who they are, and where to find them. I want to try multiple female partners with this girl. Hopefully, she will keep wanting to make me happy! If she gets tired of it, at least it will be fun up to that point.
I have also told girls in Davao, Molave, GenSan, Manila, and many other Philippine cities, as well as Thailand that I will meet them and fuck them while I am in their areas. I might have to quit work for a while to take care of all my contacts! ;) There are other girls that have told me they are not interested in having sex with me, but they will introduce me to other girls that want it.
Ain't the internet a great thing?
Happy mongering!
HW
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]I have been using DIA ([url]www.dateinasia.com[/url]) for about 4 or 5 years now. As many other mongers have stated on here, it is very hit or miss on finding some action, most girls say that they are looking for a husband, and many will only say "Hi" or "Hello" when they send you a message. But you do meet the occasional exception.
Initially, I started using DIA with what I call my good guy profile. In this profile, I did not mention anything about sex. I got a fair amount of responses to this profile. Then, I read a report on here about how some mongers had a good guy profile and a bad boy profile. I decided to give this a try, and proceeded to post my bad boy profile immediately. Soon after posting it, I had several girls (mostly young Filipinas) sending me messages.
However, one message that stood out, was from a woman in her mid 30's. It was a short message in reply to what I wrote in my profile, which simply asked "You really like sex a lot, don't you?" Well I could not let an opportunity like that pass me by! I sent an immediate reply which said "Yes! As much as I can get!" That set the stage for a long string of messages from this woman. Along the way, she revealed to me that she was not interested in having sex with me, because she had a boyfriend. But she offered to introduce me to many of her friends that might be interested in having sex with me. Of course, I agreed to this!
Before I ever had a chance to go to meet this woman, or her friends, she broke up with her boyfriend, moved to another area, and cut off communications with me. Until now, that is. Today, she buzzed me on Yahoo and we started a long, and rather interesting chat session. It started out very innocent, with casual conversation about our respective families, what we did for Christmas, and etc. Then, it somehow drifted into talking about sex. As I recall (I'll have to review my Yahoo archive), she asked me how much sex I was getting. Then it grew into us discussing our preferences and fantasies. The next thing I know, she was asking me if I would fuck her the during my next visit to the Philippines. Me being the gentleman that I am, I told her that I would not dishonor her like that because I valued our friendship to much. BULLSHIT!!!!! :D I told her that I not only want to fuck her, but I want to play out all of the fantasies we had been discussing and any more that we can think of! She explained to me that she preferred CG style, and I replied that I enjoy that also, but I want doggie sometimes too! She said "I like that style, but I have never been fucked in the ass. Would you be my first?" In my mind, I was thinking "Hell Yeah!!!" But I simply told her that was totally up to her.
By the end of the chat session (at least 2 hours) she was telling me that she was very wet, and wanting to masturbate thinking about what we will do! She told me that she is willing to fuck me 4 or more times a day, and she does not mind if I go out to fuck other girls. She said she wants me to do anything that makes me happy! She even agreed to try a bi-sexual 3 some with me and an unknown girl. So if any of you mongers in the Cebu area know of girls that like to go bi, please let me know who they are, and where to find them. I want to try multiple female partners with this girl. Hopefully, she will keep wanting to make me happy! If she gets tired of it, at least it will be fun up to that point.
I have also told girls in Davao, Molave, GenSan, Manila, and many other Philippine cities, as well as Thailand that I will meet them and fuck them while I am in their areas. I might have to quit work for a while to take care of all my contacts! ;) There are other girls that have told me they are not interested in having sex with me, but they will introduce me to other girls that want it.
Ain't the internet a great thing?
Happy mongering!
HW[/QUOTE]Hehe good job...we should all be so lucky!
Out of curiosity, what kind of things go into a 'bad boy' profile?
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Cutting to the chase
We all know that ‘freebies’ are very seldom really that. However much we like to pretend to ourselves that it’s our good looks, personality or large dicks that attracts the Pinays, we mostly know in our ‘heart of hearts’ that this is really a bunch of bollocks and it is the thickness of our wallets or our future cash and security potential that really swings the deal and gets their legs open. This applies equally to short term liaisons that expect and usually get meals, gifts and taxi money (really just a euphemism for fuck pay-off) and longer term relationships which invariably work out the more expensive. Marriage is, of course, the biggest financial ball breaker of all.
But with a surprising number of Filipinas, provided you word it right, you can cut out all the bullshit and go straight to the easiest and most unproblematic scenario which is straightforward pussy for pesos. Even with so called ‘good’ girls this can often not be a problem. From hearsay and personal experience, I know that it is very common for college girls to fund their tuition fees by a little whoring on the side.
I have been recently been chatting online to a very bright, attractive and articulate college graduate who also happens to be my favourite body type, namely a cute, little spinner. We have been exchanging emails, YM chat and SMS’s for some time but I didn’t seem to be getting closer to a meeting and was about to give up. In what would have been our last YM chat session she mentioned that her boarding house rent was due and she was short a couple of thousand. I replied that I could help her out there but would she meet me and be very nice to me. There was silence for a while and I was about to log out when she replied ‘you want to fuk me for sum money’. I replied that I knew she wasn’t a prostitute but I liked and wanted to help her but I was a guy with needs which she would be able to help me with. Within a few minutes we was arranging when, where and what exactly was available (mostly everything but no ass play:)). A result.
Incidentally, many girls will contact you using their actual YM account from which you can often get their real name. A quick google search will frequently reveal much interesting personal information about the person which is useful to compare against what she has already told you. I was able to access this girls friendster blogs which revealed the usual unrequited loves and doomed romances which seem to be the usual lot of so many Pinays. But I have copied a couple of extracts from a lengthy blog just to show that quite often these girls are far from being the empty headed bimbo’s that we are often guilty of assuming them to be.
[QUOTE=Girls Blog]I have to ameliorate the pain in my heart. They say time can be a panacea of all wounds, mine is no exemption. I don’t like myself to come into a stasis. But who would help me? Can I do this alone?
I wish I am just a lake and remain passive for years. But I am not, he is tearing me down without him knowing it. While he is on the road to recovery, I on the other hand, am stuck in this crossroad.
Life is unfair…I want to get over him… But my complex mind can’t process that simple task. I am reticent about this before, but this time I am letting it out. I have been enamored to him surreptitiously. Can I admit it to him. Can I confess to him my undying devotion in a vociferous cry, I think not.
If only I can use nepenthe to forget him and turned myself into narcoleptic creature. But my mind is active, it wanders…it wonders…
Why I am so vitiated…?
When will I have the courage…?
I am seeing spinsterhood in the horizon[/QUOTE]
Oooh..erhh. I’m seeing a good spinster fuck on the horizon:D.
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The Princess And The Pisser
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]We all know that ‘freebies’ are very seldom really that. However much we like to pretend to ourselves that it’s our good looks, personality or large dicks that attracts the Pinays, we mostly know in our ‘heart of hearts’ that this is really a bunch of bollocks and it is the thickness of our wallets or our future cash and security potential that really swings the deal and gets their legs open. This applies equally to short term liaisons that expect and usually get meals, gifts and taxi money (really just a euphemism for fuck pay-off) and longer term relationships which invariably work out the more expensive. Marriage is, of course, the biggest financial ball breaker of all.
But with a surprising number of Filipinas, provided you word it right, you can cut out all the bullshit and go straight to the easiest and most unproblematic scenario which is straightforward pussy for pesos. Even with so called ‘good’ girls this can often not be a problem. From hearsay and personal experience, I know that it is very common for college girls to fund their tuition fees by a little whoring on the side.
I have been recently been chatting online to a very bright, attractive and articulate college graduate who also happens to be my favourite body type, namely a cute, little spinner. We have been exchanging emails, YM chat and SMS’s for some time but I didn’t seem to be getting closer to a meeting and was about to give up. In what would have been our last YM chat session she mentioned that her boarding house rent was due and she was short a couple of thousand. I replied that I could help her out there but would she meet me and be very nice to me. There was silence for a while and I was about to log out when she replied ‘you want to fuk me for sum money’. I replied that I knew she wasn’t a prostitute but I liked and wanted to help her but I was a guy with needs which she would be able to help me with. Within a few minutes we was arranging when, where and what exactly was available (mostly everything but no ass play:)). A result.
Incidentally, many girls will contact you using their actual YM account from which you can often get their real name. A quick google search will frequently reveal much interesting personal information about the person which is useful to compare against what she has already told you. I was able to access this girls friendster blogs which revealed the usual unrequited loves and doomed romances which seem to be the usual lot of so many Pinays. But I have copied a couple of extracts from a lengthy blog just to show that quite often these girls are far from being the empty headed bimbo’s that we are often guilty of assuming them to be.
Oooh..erhh. I’m seeing a good spinster fuck on the horizon:D.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure your hot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] will be a panacea for her narcolepsy. ;)
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]I'm sure your hot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] will be a panacea for her narcolepsy. ;)[/QUOTE]
Never on a first date..;).
Thought for a moment from the heading that the famously cynical CM was about to come out with some sanctimonious pussy shit like what would be expected from another senior member:D.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I was able to access this girls friendster blogs which revealed the usual unrequited loves and doomed romances which seem to be the usual lot of so many Pinays. But I have copied a couple of extracts from a lengthy blog just to show that quite often these girls are far from being the empty headed bimbo’s that we are often guilty of assuming them to be.
Oooh..erhh. I’m seeing a good spinster fuck on the horizon:D.[/QUOTE]"Vitiated ".. hmmm not exactly a word thats in everyday use in my office !
I once had a CLS ( as in cute little spinner) for whom I bought a dictionary. The result was disaster. She would think of a word, then use a close alternate and would make sentences whos meanings were imposssible to fathom.
Vitiate makes the think that dictionary has done the rounds.
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very true
I agree, unless you are a good loking guy within 10 yeasr of her age she will always need some payoff. Of course some guys do try the bate and switch. Giving the impression they are looking for awife or long erm lover whenn really they are just interested in some short term sex. I think girl's feel cheated if they give sexually and dont receive anything in return. For the ones who don't see themselves as professional meals, gifts etc are a compromise. Almost always the cash would be more useful (and less of a pain for you to give as it doesnt involve shopping. The key thing for this type of girl is face. She doesn't want to feel like a hooker though she is happy to have sex and would love the money. It's one of the reasons that many of the girls are not so keen on younger guys, as they don't know the score. If one can frame the cash as college fees , help with rent or even an oversizd keep the change taxi contribution, this usually works out best.
CS is right that it's an accepted part of college life in the Phils that man firls will use their bodies to help finance their tuition.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]We all know that ‘freebies’ are very seldom really that. However much we like to pretend to ourselves that it’s our good looks, personality or large dicks that attracts the Pinays, we mostly know in our ‘heart of hearts’ that this is really a bunch of bollocks and it is the thickness of our wallets or our future cash and security potential that really swings the deal and gets their legs open. This applies equally to short term liaisons that expect and usually get meals, gifts and taxi money (really just a euphemism for fuck pay-off) and longer term relationships which invariably work out the more expensive. Marriage is, of course, the biggest financial ball breaker of all.
But with a surprising number of Filipinas, provided you word it right, you can cut out all the bullshit and go straight to the easiest and most unproblematic scenario which is straightforward pussy for pesos. Even with so called ‘good’ girls this can often not be a problem. From hearsay and personal experience, I know that it is very common for college girls to fund their tuition fees by a little whoring on the side.
I have been recently been chatting online to a very bright, attractive and articulate college graduate who also happens to be my favourite body type, namely a cute, little spinner. We have been exchanging emails, YM chat and SMS’s for some time but I didn’t seem to be getting closer to a meeting and was about to give up. In what would have been our last YM chat session she mentioned that her boarding house rent was due and she was short a couple of thousand. I replied that I could help her out there but would she meet me and be very nice to me. There was silence for a while and I was about to log out when she replied ‘you want to fuk me for sum money’. I replied that I knew she wasn’t a prostitute but I liked and wanted to help her but I was a guy with needs which she would be able to help me with. Within a few minutes we was arranging when, where and what exactly was available (mostly everything but no ass play:)). A result.
Incidentally, many girls will contact you using their actual YM account from which you can often get their real name. A quick google search will frequently reveal much interesting personal information about the person which is useful to compare against what she has already told you. I was able to access this girls friendster blogs which revealed the usual unrequited loves and doomed romances which seem to be the usual lot of so many Pinays. But I have copied a couple of extracts from a lengthy blog just to show that quite often these girls are far from being the empty headed bimbo’s that we are often guilty of assuming them to be.
Oooh..erhh. I’m seeing a good spinster fuck on the horizon:D.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Never on a first date..;).
Thought for a moment from the heading that the famously cynical CM was about to come out with some sanctimonious pussy shit...[/QUOTE]
Come now Cunning Stunt! I don't think I'm known for being pious or devout. And I do have a reputation to protect even in our wonderfully depraved community. I enter a plea of guilty as charged on the cynical bastard charge though but it is woman that made me so. :D
Frankly, getting scalded with hot [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] is not the worst thing that can happen to these girls. I know a few mongers who shit on them. ;)
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[quote=chocha monger] i know a few mongers who shit on them. ;)[/quote]
now as regards rep001 play, i'll join the crowd behind mrs warboys in the 'sanctimonious pussy' section. that shit is disgusting ..lol.
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Does Yank really rhyme with wank ?
[QUOTE=Warbucks]
Anybody else want some?[/QUOTE]The Mike Tyson of the board has spoken!
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
Anyways. Go on DIA and look for Leahho from Bogo. She looks just right for you, and will be a grand seat mate in your clunker.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/Search.aspx?g=2&af=18&at=35[/url]
Is this the one ? Anyways, Its really not cool to make fun of people who are old and still have spirit in them to look for new life and a partner.
I understand your post was sarcastic, but why use other people's profile to make a point and paint them in bad light. It's heartless.
We have among us, lots of mongers who are well past dating age, yet they go on having good time, which in my book is great thing, cos their spirit is alive.
Is it a crime that she is female, old and ugly. While we are at it, why not we kill all those old ugly women, so they dare not soil our "fun" in the philiphines.
Happy New Year!
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No sides, just pussy hunting!
Personally, I think Jackson should remove everyone that gets into a personal pissing contest on these boards! I have seen his notes before about how these boards are meant to be used as a means of sharing information on pussy that all of us are looking to fuck! Not for bitching at each other and throwing stupid insults around. How does any of those comments help anybody find good pussy?
Get over your petty disagreements about what kind of girls people are fucking, the type of clothes somebody is wearing, the type of car they drive, or any other bullshit! We are all here to share our experiences with finding pussy, good or bad! What one man likes may not be to everyone's taste. But who really gives a shit? Grow up!
Get back to mongering!
HW
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[QUOTE=Royal Blue]Hehe good job...we should all be so lucky!
Out of curiosity, what kind of things go into a 'bad boy' profile?[/QUOTE]
Royal Blue,
I hope I am lucky enough to be able to bed down a fair number of the girls I have met online. Although I am not as good at it as some other members here seem to be. And I know from experience, that what these girls tell you online is not always gospel. I had one in General Santos City (GenSan) promise to meet me at my hotel once. She even told me what hotel to stay in. After getting there, she never showed up. When I left the area, and got onto a computer again, I had a message from her asking if I had fucked a girl that I met at the hotel bar. Of course, I denied it (even though I had). But it seems she had been hiding somewhere near the bar watching me for the hour that I waited for her. When the other girl approached and offered to fuck me, I was not about to pass it up. But this pissed off the one that hid for an hour, instead of meeting me at the appointed time. Was it a setup? Maybe. But I got some pussy out of it anyhow. That was the whole purpose of being there!
I'm not sure that my "bad boy" profile is as bad as it should be. But I do try to make it very clear that I am not looking to be any woman's long term boyfriend, or husband. I tried to be as respectful as possible, but still get the idea across that I am going to meet as many women as I can. If my profile doesn't make it clear enough to the girls, I tell them when we start chatting that I am not their "one man for one woman." I don't come right out and say that I want to fuck them. But I hope they get the idea. And some do. The horny woman in Cebu that wants to fuck me silly, and says it's OK with her if I fuck others, began her very first message to me with "You like sex very much, don't you?" I simply replied "Yes!" Just yesterday, I received a message on DIA from an 18 year old that asked "How big is your cock?" I told her it was big enough to make her scream and cum all night! I don't want to exagerate! :D
For your own "bad boy" profile, write whatever you want. Some girls might not like it, and will send you flaming messages about it. But others will appreciate the fact that you are being straight with them. They might even invite you to view them naked on cam, prior to meeting them.
Enjoy!
HW
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[QUOTE=Warbucks]
I guess I can’t afford a decent radio but I can afford to stay in 5 star hotels for short time liaisons multiple times and fly first class, own multiple properties in my 20s (not inherited) ..blah, drone, brag [/QUOTE]
..this is laughable, like a saddo little kid bragging in the playground. Grow up man, nobody here believes anyone would be stupid enough to pay 5 star hotel rates for a ST liaison, certainly with the type of ho-dogs that you normally fuck and so everything you brag about online is just so obviously a bunch of bollocks it is hilarious. But even allowing for the remote possibility that any of it was true, do you think anyone really gives a flying fuck. Just get a life and as HW suggests, restrict your postings to your mongering adventures (if you have any - have you posted anything remotely interesting in the last six months) or other relevant information without trying to bolster your obviously low self esteem by trying to impress a disinterested forum with self obsessed howling at the moon.
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Again, No Sides!
My post was not directed at Warbucks alone. There are other contributors in this pile of shit!
HW
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]Royal Blue,
I hope I am lucky enough to be able to bed down a fair number of the girls I have met online. Although I am not as good at it as some other members here seem to be. And I know from experience, that what these girls tell you online is not always gospel. I had one in General Santos City (GenSan) promise to meet me at my hotel once. She even told me what hotel to stay in. After getting there, she never showed up. When I left the area, and got onto a computer again, I had a message from her asking if I had fucked a girl that I met at the hotel bar. Of course, I denied it (even though I had). But it seems she had been hiding somewhere near the bar watching me for the hour that I waited for her. When the other girl approached and offered to fuck me, I was not about to pass it up. But this pissed off the one that hid for an hour, instead of meeting me at the appointed time. Was it a setup? Maybe. But I got some pussy out of it anyhow. That was the whole purpose of being there!
I'm not sure that my "bad boy" profile is as bad as it should be. But I do try to make it very clear that I am not looking to be any woman's long term boyfriend, or husband. I tried to be as respectful as possible, but still get the idea across that I am going to meet as many women as I can. If my profile doesn't make it clear enough to the girls, I tell them when we start chatting that I am not their "one man for one woman." I don't come right out and say that I want to fuck them. But I hope they get the idea. And some do. The horny woman in Cebu that wants to fuck me silly, and says it's OK with her if I fuck others, began her very first message to me with "You like sex very much, don't you?" I simply replied "Yes!" Just yesterday, I received a message on DIA from an 18 year old that asked "How big is your cock?" I told her it was big enough to make her scream and cum all night! I don't want to exagerate! :D
For your own "bad boy" profile, write whatever you want. Some girls might not like it, and will send you flaming messages about it. But others will appreciate the fact that you are being straight with them. They might even invite you to view them naked on cam, prior to meeting them.
Enjoy!
HW[/QUOTE]Hi HW,
I took your advice & changed to a bad boy profile, but haven't had much reponse.
I didn't post my photo, did you?
I really them I love sex & having fun.
Any more tips buddy?
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Suck Me Dry]Hi HW,
I took your advice & changed to a bad boy profile, but haven't had much reponse.
I didn't post my photo, did you?
I really them I love sex & having fun.
Any more tips buddy?
Cheers[/QUOTE]
SMD,
I didn't post my photo at first, because I didn't want any old ex-gf to get on there and start flaming me. But after a while (and very few hits) I did put one up. I used my built in web cam, and got very close up so only my face shows. It looks pretty damn funny, I think. But I get a lot of compliments from the girls (I'm sure they would compliment anyone they thought would support them). After posting the photo, the hits came in more frequently. And, of course, I have been doing plenty of clicking on the "show interest" button for the babes that look good in their photos. If I really like their look and what they write in their profile (I always read them to make sure it's not a ladyboy) I will leave a message for them. Showing interest does not guarantee a response. In the days around Christmas and New Years, I have been busy replying to about 50 messages a day!
Be patient with it. Post a photo if you want. You will start getting the hits.
I also use Tagged.com, where I have an even more "bad boy" type of profile. On it I have not posted any of my own photos. But the profile pic is from an advertisement for men's mesh briefs, in which the dick is clearly visible. Many girls love it! Some have sent me flames about how disgusted they are by it. And I constantly have to reject gays that want to be added to my "friends" list. But that profile leaves no doubt that I want women for sex. I have about 500 "friends" from around the world on there. And many of them are from PI. Several others are from Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan, and so on. I think I could have fun all throughout Asia, if I had enough time and money to travel to each.
Many on DateInAsia.com will not read the profile at all. They simply click on the photo and send a message. Almost every "personal" question the girls have asked me (e.g. "How old are you?" "Are you married?" and so on) could have been answered by simply reading my profile. And that is what I normally tell them when asked. Most of them put in their profiles that they are looking for a husband, or a "life time partner", or something like that. And they all want a guy that will be faithful to them only. Most of them will ask for your Yahoo Messenger (YM) or MSN address so they can chat with you. A few, after adding to my YM, have sent me messages asking me to join their sex cam sites. But I always tell them I'd rather have them show me in person, if I'm going to spend the money.
Enjoy!
HW
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Wow, what do they say about the pot calling the kettle black?
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]..(whining) ... Not for bitching at each other and throwing stupid insults around. ...(whining).... But who really gives a shit? Grow up!
Get back to mongering!
HW[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]SMD,
I didn't post my photo at first, because I didn't want any old ex-gf to get on there and start flaming me. But after a while (and very few hits) I did put one up. I used my built in web cam, and got very close up so only my face shows. It looks pretty damn funny, I think. But I get a lot of compliments from the girls (I'm sure they would compliment anyone they thought would support them). After posting the photo, the hits came in more frequently. And, of course, I have been doing plenty of clicking on the "show interest" button for the babes that look good in their photos. If I really like their look and what they write in their profile (I always read them to make sure it's not a ladyboy) I will leave a message for them. Showing interest does not guarantee a response. In the days around Christmas and New Years, I have been busy replying to about 50 messages a day!
Be patient with it. Post a photo if you want. You will start getting the hits.
I also use Tagged.com, where I have an even more "bad boy" type of profile. On it I have not posted any of my own photos. But the profile pic is from an advertisement for men's mesh briefs, in which the dick is clearly visible. Many girls love it! Some have sent me flames about how disgusted they are by it. And I constantly have to reject gays that want to be added to my "friends" list. But that profile leaves no doubt that I want women for sex. I have about 500 "friends" from around the world on there. And many of them are from PI. Several others are from Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan, and so on. I think I could have fun all throughout Asia, if I had enough time and money to travel to each.
Many on DateInAsia.com will not read the profile at all. They simply click on the photo and send a message. Almost every "personal" question the girls have asked me (e.g. "How old are you?" "Are you married?" and so on) could have been answered by simply reading my profile. And that is what I normally tell them when asked. Most of them put in their profiles that they are looking for a husband, or a "life time partner", or something like that. And they all want a guy that will be faithful to them only. Most of them will ask for your Yahoo Messenger (YM) or MSN address so they can chat with you. A few, after adding to my YM, have sent me messages asking me to join their sex cam sites. But I always tell them I'd rather have them show me in person, if I'm going to spend the money.
Enjoy!
HW[/QUOTE]Cheers HW
Yeah I put my photo up & got heaps more responses, met one that from Cebu that loved talking dirty showed her tits 32 y. O great body that lovesbeen fucked even anal whichis a bonus I'm fucking spewing I was in cebu in nov I coulda fucked the guts out of her, I like your story about the supposed pic of you in briefs if it works go with the flow he he.
Anyways thanks buddy cheers SMD
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[QUOTE=X Man]Wow, what do they say about the pot calling the kettle black?[/QUOTE]
Damn X!
I didn't realize I had stepped on your toes! Sorry if the truth hurts. Your reports are actually some of the better ones I have seen on here. Your choice of girls are not always the same ones I would choose, but to each his own!
And for the record, go back and look at the entire post that you excerpted your quotes from. I don't recall doing any whining in it. I was simply pointing out that I feel most mongers on here would rather see information on where to find pussy, decent hotels, eating establishments, and so on. If that's what you consider to be whining, then excuse me!
HW
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]. Howling at the moon.[/QUOTE]And the score was: The White Rose forever. LOL
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5][url]
We have among us, lots of mongers who are well past dating age, yet they go on having good time, which in my book is great thing, cos their spirit is alive.
"fun" in the philiphines.[/QUOTE]I checked all over my body and can't find a " best before " date.
I think as guys we have no expiry date.
PS. Its spelt Philippines.
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Divided loyalties!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]And the score was: The White Rose forever. LOL[/QUOTE]
Twat;). And the hurt was just beginning to get better.
Thing is, I used to be white when I was a tyke, so I am secretly a little bit chuffed for them. But it still rankled.
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Watch Those Birthdays!
I am meeting a lot of girls in Cherry Blossoms who have been fudging their age.
I ask one sweet thing (her profile says 19yo). "how old are you sweetie?"
"I'm 17yo, my birthday is 11 March.." she sez.
"May I know what year?" I ask.
"Its 1993, I'm going on 17" the sweetheart replies. lol
Well its ok, just kind of put her back on the shelf, she'll keep for another year or so. Something to get back to later...better a girl rising to 19yo than one at 24yo and past the sell-by date haha
Its a shame they don't have a "hardship clause" like they do for the NFL. Tough waiting 18 long years to get some return on investment.
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Telling people to "grow up" is insulting. Would you at least agree to that?
How do you hope to stop a flame war by adding a flame? (Rhetorical question - no need to answer).
I'll humbly retract the "whining" comments. I was exagerrating.
And I'm glad you and most others don't like the petite, skinny chicks. Just more tight pussy for me. X
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]Damn X!
I didn't realize I had stepped on your toes! Sorry if the truth hurts. Your reports are actually some of the better ones I have seen on here. Your choice of girls are not always the same ones I would choose, but to each his own!
And for the record, go back and look at the entire post that you excerpted your quotes from. I don't recall doing any whining in it. I was simply pointing out that I feel most mongers on here would rather see information on where to find pussy, decent hotels, eating establishments, and so on. If that's what you consider to be whining, then excuse me!
HW[/QUOTE]
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Dia
brendalyn_lovergirl
No phone nor cell no.
I usually write these ones off immediately just because it is so hard to arrange a meeting. But who knows, maybe the effort pays off. What have others experienced?
X
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It can be a pain to arrnage a meet up - best option is just to get her to come to your hotel. Girls with no phones arre generally new on the scene and can sometimes be very keen to get the funds to buy a phone LOL
[QUOTE=X Man]brendalyn_lovergirl
No phone nor cell no.
I usually write these ones off immediately just because it is so hard to arrange a meeting. But who knows, maybe the effort pays off. What have others experienced?
X[/QUOTE]
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"a lot"????
I have a lot of enemies on this list simply for arguing details and facts, but I can't help but ask....are you referring to one (your example) or a lot - which would be how many?
And if you use DIA also, which would you think is better quality?
X
[QUOTE=Jambo]I am meeting a lot of girls in Cherry Blossoms who have been fudging their age.
I ask one sweet thing (her profile says 19yo). "how old are you sweetie?"
"I'm 17yo, my birthday is 11 March.." she sez.
"May I know what year?" I ask.
"Its 1993, I'm going on 17" the sweetheart replies. lol
Well its ok, just kind of put her back on the shelf, she'll keep for another year or so. Something to get back to later...better a girl rising to 19yo than one at 24yo and past the sell-by date haha
Its a shame they don't have a "hardship clause" like they do for the NFL. Tough waiting 18 long years to get some return on investment.[/QUOTE]
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GL, would appreciate a bit of elaboration. Can you give us locations, details? Did she show up at the appointed time -- or day!?
I am so sick and tired of the text back and forth with very little meaningful communication. Most are late or very late and most can't communicate anything in a text. "I'm coming".....may mean they just started getting dressed as far as I can tell.
A text like "where are u" would seem to indicate that they are in the prearranged meeting place and looking for you, but actually they are just checking to see if you are in the same city and maybe they should make an effort to go the the meeting point.
Oh, and lets not forget my favorite aggravation of all. After sending two dozen mindless, meaningless texts, she no longer has load / battery when it is meeting time.
Okay, rant finished. Shoot meself in the head. X
[QUOTE=GregLondon]It can be a pain to arrnage a meet up - best option is just to get her to come to your hotel. Girls with no phones arre generally new on the scene and can sometimes be very keen to get the funds to buy a phone LOL[/QUOTE]
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[quote=x man]"a lot"???? and if you use dia also, which would you think is better quality? x[/quote]
i believe about 5-6 in the past 2 months admitted to being ****. i suspect if i were to check the id others that say they are 18yo it would be more. (have not hooked up with any of these).
i believe girls in cherry blossoms are more sincere, but i really don't use dia yet. i've still got a paid subscription with cb and am collecting plenty of numbers. of course as you know, a "sincere" girl is less likely to put out on a first date, which may be your angle. if the dia girls are more, um mercenary, it may fit your goals better. i like that in cb they have more and larger photos, better to asses their tits and asses.
i make it clear that i am looking for a lt gf (i am), but not marriage. most are ok with that. the real lookers tend to blow me off, but once i am in country i will have another go at them. but i am really not interested in getting jerked off (again) so i concentrate my efforts on the pleasant looking and out of work/need money for school crowd.
details? lets see i've go a decent prospects list of 74 pi-wide. 18 in manila area alone. 8 in cebu. most in mindanao. if i would look at girls older than 25yo i could get more/better. but i really don't want a live-in that old (and desparate).
here's a good one. looks like her aunt wrote the listing. it reads like a thoroughbred horse sale catalog:
[quote]slim small girl. 5 feet tall, weigh 75 pounds, breast 28d, waist 22 inches, hips 28 inches, good strong teeth with nice smile, chocolate skin color, long shoulder length hair, no kids, never worked in bar, live with aunt and her american husband in xxx.[/quote]
don't any horndogs pm me for her info. do your own homework!
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About a year since I've used CB
jambo, thanks for that, you've made my day!
you better meet up with her quick, 'cause there is likely to be a queue if you wait too long. on second thought, she looks a bit ****. just give me her reference no. and i will report her to cb monitors to save you the trouble.
as for dateinasia vs. cherry blossom, i've had similar success rates and in both found a real gem. nevertheless, i think next trip i will go back to cb.
does cb still have a rule that you cannot provide contact info on the first mail? a year ago they also prohibited gals from unilaterally offerring their contact info -- which meant some gals wouldn't give contact info even if asked. i found cb rules bothersome, but that may be why you get some better quality gals.
thanks again, x
oh, and i disagree with you on one point. it was the american uncle who wrote that ad!
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[quote=x man]jyou better meet up with her quick, 'cause there is likely to be a queue if you wait too long. on second thought, she looks a bit ****. just give me her reference no. and i will report her to cb monitors to save you the trouble.
does cb still have a rule that you cannot provide contact info on the first mail? a year ago they also prohibited gals from unilaterally offerring their contact info -- which meant some gals wouldn't give contact info even if asked. i found cb rules bothersome, but that may be why you get some better quality gals.[/quote]
no way i am going to mess with that girl. she is going to be way spoiled, and anyway she has that american relative who will make trouble if i shag her and split. all the info you need to find her is right in front of your eyes. anyone who can't figure it out does not deserve a nice filly like that haha.
cb does discourage providing contact info on 1st msg. i believe fh does as well. also they keep the girls from posting email addresses in their bios to encourage mongers to subscribe.
i have 3 pre-written messages ready in cb, and i can punch them out in reply to girls. the 2nd msg has my yahoo id, and works well for me. its a good idea to hold off on passing your yahoo id right away. for example, here is one reply i got in cb from a girl:
[quote]hilo hon thnx for viewing me hon how r u now hon [/quote] see this is a girl i am not going to reply to. good looker though...hmm maybe i can just keep her mouth full of my man meat...
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No phone
First if at all possible I get the girl to meet me at my hotel because you are absolutely right that these girls are always late. If you are at your hotel that's not such a big deal as you can just watch TV/play on the internet etc until she shows up. Many girls of course prefer to meet in a mall, in case you are a monster but most will agree to meet in your hotel lobby.
Quite often I will have to agree to pay the cab fare (usually under 60p when they arrive.) If a girl doesn't have a phone then you will probably be chatting online through YM. Just persuade her to come round to meet you at your hotel and promise to pay the cab/jeep fare.
[QUOTE=X Man]GL, would appreciate a bit of elaboration. Can you give us locations, details? Did she show up at the appointed time -- or day!?
I am so sick and tired of the text back and forth with very little meaningful communication. Most are late or very late and most can't communicate anything in a text. "I'm coming".....may mean they just started getting dressed as far as I can tell.
A text like "where are u" would seem to indicate that they are in the prearranged meeting place and looking for you, but actually they are just checking to see if you are in the same city and maybe they should make an effort to go the the meeting point.
Oh, and lets not forget my favorite aggravation of all. After sending two dozen mindless, meaningless texts, she no longer has load / battery when it is meeting time.
Okay, rant finished. Shoot meself in the head. X[/QUOTE]
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CB and Ph vs DIA
I would say that 80% of the girls on CB and PH also have profiles on DIA. CB and PH being pay sites have more pics and functionality. DIA being free has 10 x the numbers of members. For the girls they are all de facto free as they typically just wait for guys to respond to their profiles. From the girl's perspectives CB and PH tend to have more "serious " guys because these guys have paid something to join and are therefore probably really planning a trip whereas many many guys on DIA are just sitting in Kansas feeling lonely but probably don't even have a passport.
[QUOTE=X Man]"a lot"????
I have a lot of enemies on this list simply for arguing details and facts, but I can't help but ask....are you referring to one (your example) or a lot - which would be how many?
And if you use DIA also, which would you think is better quality?
X[/QUOTE]
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GL, thanks for the response. It was interesting to hear your ideas. Although, I agree with some, I've looked at other from a completely different perspective.
-- 80% -- Has anyone else noticed such a correlation? I've only used CB and DIA, and only had one woman on DIA said she remembered me from CB. I save a lot of pictures of those I find desirable...and I rarely find matches between websites.
(When GL writes PH, I assume he means FH (Filipinaheart)). I've never subscribed to FH. I have subscribed to CH for short periods immediately prior to a trip.
-- girl's perspective -- this is where we looked at things differently GL. I was surprised at Cherry Blossom because women often didn't realize that the men paid money. I suppose the smarter ones could figure it out soon enough. I always assumed the better quality at CB was because of the vetting process.
-- lonely Kansas boys -- GL, we all appreciate your research into the men's section of DIA.
X
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I would say that 80% of the girls on CB and PH also have profiles on DIA. CB and PH being pay sites have more pics and functionality. DIA being free has 10 x the numbers of members. For the girls they are all de facto free as they typically just wait for guys to respond to their profiles. From the girl's perspectives CB and PH tend to have more "serious " guys because these guys have paid something to join and are therefore probably really planning a trip whereas many many guys on DIA are just sitting in Kansas feeling lonely but probably don't even have a passport.[/QUOTE]
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Texting With Girls
There have been a few posts recently about the process of meeting up with filipinas, and lots of texts to go with it.
I have a somewhat different perspective.
Most filipinos navigate in very different ways that we do. I have been in the situation where I gave what I thought were perfecr directions to our SOGO hotel. But she ended up at a very different place. Took 45 minutes for her to get 3 blocks to me.
Secondly, they are probably very nervous, and use the texts for reassurance. How many women their age in your country would do the same - never met you, from a different country, go to meet you at your hotel? Very few, if any.
And they tend to be pretty young, and inexperienced, and often look to lots of texts as a means of reassurance. And to maintain some kind of intimacy.
And their English is often not good, so their texts are often pretty basic.
But be kind, patient, and it pays off in spades.
If the girl wants to meet in a neutral place like a mall, I prefer to choose somewhere that I can get a coffee and watch the passing crowd, and read a book as a way to pass time while I am waiting for her.
Good luck.
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DIA strategy
I have been to Manila once, and had a great time. Sex with pros, non-pros and semi pros is easier to procure in Manila than virtually any other place I have been.
I tried DIA last year, and got lots of responses, but when I got to Makati, most of the girls refused to come to my hotel (of course, I was very upfront, and told them I wanted sex not marriage).
Now I am going back, and would like to go the DIA route again. I forgot how the DIA thing worked. I simply cannot tell which, if any, of the DIA girls are likely to have sex with me. I am hoping someone with more experience with DIA can tell me how to distinguish the DIA girls who are willing to put out on the first date, and the ones who really want someone to love them forever. I guess I will not be so upfront about simply wanting a one night stand this time!
Does anyone have a strategy for success in DIA? Thanks F
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[QUOTE=Forest]how to distinguish the DIA girls who are willing to put out on the first date, and the ones who really want someone to love them forever.[/QUOTE]
I would suggest if you see the keywords: "not here to play games", "lifetime partner", "husband" you would be spinning your wheels of you want a quick shag.
If you see someting like, "open minded", "looking for friends", you may have a good chance.
If she uses the words, "I'm sexy" i tend to be wary, but who knows?
Certianly in chat I tell them I am not interested in marriage. If you do that you may be turning off some opportunities, but its kinid of unfair to directly lead a girl on by suggesting you are looking for a wife (not saying you are).
Something I have done. Kind of bold, but after chatting for some time, I go out and tell them, "you know if I meet you and I like you, I will want to take you to bed". Maybe soften it with, "because you're so pretty I don't think I could help myself". Try that see how it goes over...
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DIA Strategy
I think the first point is to be completely open and up front in your profile as to what you are looking for - without being crude. Eg I'm coming to Manila on x for y days. I'm hoping to meet some cute, sexy slim girls aged 18-23. You need to be open minded , passionate and willing to stay at my hotel overnight if we get along well etc.
Unless u are devilishly handsome or looking for an age gap under say 15 years, then I think realistically any girl contemplating short term sex with you will want some financial compensation, so you might put something along the lines of "of course I will be happy to cover all your expenses."
Unfortunately even being this specific will hook some "good girls" who dont read the ad, so you ask for their YM, and then have a chat and ask them if they read your ad and say you are looking for an sexy open minded girl wiling to stay with you at your hotel.
Many girls will then ask you to send money, to which you say, never send money before meeting a girl, though if we have a good time together happy to help with your bills etc.
If you are looking for something unusual such as anal or threesomes you can mention it at that time, but prob do so tentatively as 80% wont be receptive.
You then need to weed out the girls only doing scams/webcams. within a few days you should have a list of hot prospects.
I tend not to pay much heed to what the girl has said in her profile, Most girls make the web site looking for their husband and some short time remunerated fun is only a secondary goal. They believe that if they indicate they are up for short term then this will put off the serious God fearing Good guys. Of course some really are not up for short term fun, but for many playing games - means pretending you are looking for a wife when really you are just after free sex.
90% of the girls on DIA are perpetually short of cash and 1000P represents 4-5 days pay for say a shop girl so as long as she is not made to feel like a hooker, many will be interested to play for that.
[QUOTE=Forest]I have been to Manila once, and had a great time. Sex with pros, non-pros and semi pros is easier to procure in Manila than virtually any other place I have been.
I tried DIA last year, and got lots of responses, but when I got to Makati, most of the girls refused to come to my hotel (of course, I was very upfront, and told them I wanted sex not marriage).
Now I am going back, and would like to go the DIA route again. I forgot how the DIA thing worked. I simply cannot tell which, if any, of the DIA girls are likely to have sex with me. I am hoping someone with more experience with DIA can tell me how to distinguish the DIA girls who are willing to put out on the first date, and the ones who really want someone to love them forever. I guess I will not be so upfront about simply wanting a one night stand this time!
Does anyone have a strategy for success in DIA? Thanks F[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]GL, thanks for the response. It was interesting to hear your ideas. Although, I agree with some, I've looked at other from a completely different perspective.
-- 80% -- Has anyone else noticed such a correlation? I've only used CB and DIA, and only had one woman on DIA said she remembered me from CB. I save a lot of pictures of those I find desirable...and I rarely find matches between websites.
(When GL writes PH, I assume he means FH (Filipinaheart)). I've never subscribed to FH. I have subscribed to CH for short periods immediately prior to a trip.
-- girl's perspective -- this is where we looked at things differently GL. I was surprised at Cherry Blossom because women often didn't realize that the men paid money. I suppose the smarter ones could figure it out soon enough. I always assumed the better quality at CB was because of the vetting process.
-- lonely Kansas boys -- GL, we all appreciate your research into the men's section of DIA.
X[/QUOTE]
yes Sorry I meant Fillipina Heart.
re cross over - First remember DIA is the dominant site. I have helped a couple of Philly girl friends write their ads. As an idea the DIA ad got about 500 responses (cute girl, nice pic and well written - and crucially honest and straight forward ad) in 2 days, CB and PH got around 30 each in same time frame. Of those responses it was pretty easy to ignore or delete around 90% - guys with no real plans to visit or outside her target group etc.
the main reason that most guys don't join all three is that CB and PH cost money, this is not relevant for girls. Also the vast majority of girls will know other girlfriends or relatives on the sites so will exchange notes and generally be aware of the other sites.
Many of the girls like to put different user names and photos on their different sites . What quite often happens is that one guy gets serious with the girl and he will try and persuade her to close down her dating site or tell him her password so that he can get a free run at her. Often she will not know for sure that this guy will actually turn up or if he does that he hasn't got 10 other girls to see. So it's especially important to her that he doesn't also get her CB and PH sites as well and close those too.
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Cherry Blossoms Hacked?
Looks like Cherry Blossoms (Blossoms.com) got hacked. Login gets re-directed to some Easter Euro looking page. Safest to use Firefox with the NoScript plug-in, and disallow scripts from them until they get it fixed.
Attached screen cap is from blossoms.com/login.php
Mmm now its gone....
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"I think the first point is to be completely open and up front in your profile as to what you are looking for - without being crude."
When I was in Cebu, I found it unnecessary to be so direct. A high percentage of the women I met understood the game and are quite happy to comply. When one was reluctant, she brought me a friend within about 15 minutes. Now I am in Davao, and I am finding that most of the women are either unaware or unwilling.
As a result, I am sending out a new batch of messages right now that is much more direct. I'm asking for an adventurous and sensuous woman. I may also put in something about them being willing to stay with me if we get along and possibly travel together. The problem is that I've are ready been here five days and time is running out. Even though I had 12 days originally, that's not all that much unless you know how to work the system right from the get-go.
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Good point
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]"I think the first point is to be completely open and up front in your profile as to what you are looking for - without being crude."
When I was in Cebu, I found it unnecessary to be so direct. A high percentage of the women I met understood the game and are quite happy to comply. When one was reluctant, she brought me a friend within about 15 minutes. Now I am in Davao, and I am finding that most of the women are either unaware or unwilling.
As a result, I am sending out a new batch of messages right now that is much more direct. I'm asking for an adventurous and sensuous woman. I may also put in something about them being willing to stay with me if we get along and possibly travel together. The problem is that I've are ready been here five days and time is running out. Even though I had 12 days originally, that's not all that much unless you know how to work the system right from the get-go.[/QUOTE]
Yes I think for the guys just comming for a short trip, the key is to try and avoid wasting a half day or few hours chasing a girl whose idea of being sexy and open minded is to lose her virginity on her wedding night. That's why I suggest the direct approach, in more open minded cities such as Cebu Manila nd Angeles the numnbers are such that you will prob be OK with a less direct approach, but if one goes to places like Dumaguete Cagayan, Puerto princesa you may need to be more systematic about winnowing out the conservatives. Of course if you are living in the country you can afford to be more relaxed and subtle if you want and I'm sure you can seduce some of the apparently conservative ones too.
if you find yourself in cuba Touists situation of needing to generate contactys quickly, try Tagged as well as DIA. 30 mins on tagged should get you half a dozen phone numbers/YM ids
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Thanks Greg!
Woman just now says in profile she is sexy and open but wants to bring mother and grandmother!!!!
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]Thanks Greg!
Woman just now says in profile she is sexy and open but wants to bring mother and grandmother!!!![/QUOTE]
That's going to be one kinky ass session. You're going to bang 3 generations in one go! I can see it now... Granny on the toothless BJ, mother the anal pro and the sexy daughter as the apprentice. :D
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I asked redfoxgurl to meet me and she wrote back:
nahhh sorry maybe just look another gurl out there...i dont go out with guys easly..god bless
and then to explain:
im shy..im not liberated im scared i dont know u that much ..sorry
maybe someone else can successfully get her into bed.
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in Davao
Originally Posted by Cuba Tourist
Thanks Greg!
Woman just now says in profile she is sexy and open but wants to bring mother and grandmother!!!!
if you PM me with your email i will send you a couple of YMs or tel nos from my "Davao and up for it" list
Only girls under 25 without baby, look cute and say willing to stay overnight.
GL
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GL is spot on in his analysis. Davao girls are more provincial and require another approach and even much more time and work. With many of the Davaoenias it is normally more a project over months or weeks than days to get by the "sniffing phase" as KongKing once described.
Cuba, why don't you get yourself away from the computer and try a mall? Walk up to someone, smile and start to talk to them. Ask them to join you to some beach. I did this with success several times.
I really need to try Cebu for a week or two some time. The few Cebuanas I have on my YM are all stunners and up for game in a whole different way than the somewhat more conservative Davao girls. Hell, even the Cebu ladyboy I accidentally added is hot. :-)
Just got buzzed this very sec by a sweet 20 year old girl from Surigao. We are definitely over the sniffing phase. Next up is sniffing her panties instead.
Take care!
Barba
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[QUOTE=Jambo]Looks like Cherry Blossoms (Blossoms.com) got hacked. Login gets re-directed to some Easter Euro looking page. Safest to use Firefox with the NoScript plug-in, and disallow scripts from them until they get it fixed.
Attached screen cap is from blossoms.com/login.php
Mmm now its gone....[/QUOTE]This looks like BULGARIAN language
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Candy DIA
Take a moment to check out Candy Barr from Makati on DIA.
Its hilarious.
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Oh, harder Papa!!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Take a moment to check out Candy Barr from Makati on DIA.
Its hilarious.[/QUOTE]
Your right! Very naughty too - just had to send her a massage:D. I bet her box will be awash.
Did you note her occupation? Sounds like X's perfect woman;). Only kiddin' X.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Your right! Very naughty too - just had to send her a massage:D. I bet her box will be awash.
Did you note her occupation? Sounds like X's perfect woman;). Only kiddin' X.[/QUOTE]
30% chance a western guy 50% chance a lady boy 205 chance a phil girl in my view
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DIA tip
At Date in Asia, and other friend finder sites, you can do a search by area. You'll turn up plenty of prospects by searching for areas (or other names of places) immediately adjacent to the city you are planning to visit.
Angeles: Pampanga
Manila: Bulacan, (see Metro Manila map)
Cebu: Talisay, Mandaue, lapu, consolation, Toledo
Davao: Toril, Bunawan
Dumaguete: Valencia
the list is endless, so look at maps to get ideas. The gals who live in these outlying areas are likely to be less net savvy -- which may be good or bad depending on your circumstances. X
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Karen (girl I met but I liked her friend): u like chin2?
Karen: if you like her ill give to you her number.
Me: She rejected me pretty conclusively. I really liked her but oh well...
Karen: i think you just misunderstood things maybe if you took things slowly maybe she might like you.you scared her when you started to touch honestly she''s not use to it.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Take a moment to check out Candy Barr from Makati on DIA.
Its hilarious.[/QUOTE]that's very obviously VERY FAKE!
I even wouldn't answer to this.
Most probably a westerner making fun of us fellow mongerers
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[QUOTE=X Man]by searching for areas (or other names of places) immediately adjacent to the city you are planning to visit. [/QUOTE]
Thats a good tip X-man. A lot of girls don't think that if they live anywhere near Manila, they should put "Manila". And a lot of guys don't think to look for "Caloocan" (or whatever). At least Filipina Heart is smart you can search by Province, and get all in one.
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[QUOTE=X Man]At Date in Asia, and other friend finder sites, you can do a search by area. You'll turn up plenty of prospects by searching for areas (or other names of places) immediately adjacent to the city you are planning to visit.
Angeles: Pampanga
Manila: Bulacan, (see Metro Manila map)
Cebu: Talisay, Mandaue, lapu, consolation, Toledo
Davao: Toril, Bunawan
Dumaguete: Valencia [/QUOTE]Hi X,
Whilst I agree with the methodology suggested here, using Bulacan as an example of close to Manila is stretching it. Its a loooooooong way from Manila on a bad traffic day.
I'd go with Taguig, Pasay, Pasig, Alabang, Las Pinas, Sucat etc. Much easier to get the ladies to come to you from there.
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[QUOTE=Rampana]
Most probably a westerner making fun of us fellow mongerers[/QUOTE]
Could be but I would have found a better looking girl and a sexier photo.
Ladyboy - don't think so but could be wrong.
Maybe just a Burgos Street girl looking to snag a sucker.
She has probably had a lot of interest since yesterday as she has added this to her profile....EMAIL ME SOME INTERESTING PICTURES YOU WILL GET MY ATENSION QUIKER NO ASIANS. NO PIC NO REPLY 09297862454
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Good point. Nevertheless, I did have a Bulacan gal come to meet me in Ermita. Last I heard she was working in the mall in AC. In fact, considering Manila traffic it might make more sense to get a bulacan gal to meet you in AC. X
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Hi X,
Whilst I agree with the methodology suggested here, using Bulacan as an example of close to Manila is stretching it. Its a loooooooong way from Manila on a bad traffic day.
I'd go with Taguig, Pasay, Pasig, Alabang, Las Pinas, Sucat etc. Much easier to get the ladies to come to you from there.[/QUOTE]
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Lb
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Could be but I would have found a better looking girl and a sexier photo.
Ladyboy - don't think so but could be wrong.
Maybe just a Burgos Street girl looking to snag a sucker.
She has probably had a lot of interest since yesterday as she has added this to her profile....EMAIL ME SOME INTERESTING PICTURES YOU WILL GET MY ATENSION QUIKER NO ASIANS. NO PIC NO REPLY 09297862454[/QUOTE]Her pic does not look like a LB but many LBs/gays "borrow" pics of their female friends and ai Think a LB/gay is more likely to be interested to collect naughty pics of western guys than a girl.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
Whilst I agree with the methodology suggested here, using Bulacan as an example of close to Manila is stretching it. Its a loooooooong way from Manila on a bad traffic day.
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I used to regularly knob a girl who lived in Bulacan. We used to meet up in the Trinoma Mall which is right opposite the North Ave last stop on the MRT. Easy for both her and me to get to. And there is a splendidly situated Sogo Hotel right by the side on North Ave Station.
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Well there you go!
You might as well be speaking Greek since I've never used the MRT. I've often thought it might be fun to try the outlying malls for some hunting. Trinoma?
Many "good" gals think that Ermita is Dangerous.
X
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I used to regularly knob a girl who lived in Bulacan. We used to meet up in the Trinoma Mall which is right opposite the North Ave last stop on the MRT. Easy for both her and me to get to. And there is a splendidly situated Sogo Hotel right by the side on North Ave Station.[/QUOTE]
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Too Good To Be True
There have been numerous queries regarding various dating sites and their potential 'benefits'. DIA, or Dating In Asia, is free, and therefore has the largest pool of potential talent. Screening is not in effect on this site, except for the most blatant of 'come-ons'.
The old saw that "If it seems too good to be true, it isn't true. ", definitely should be remembered if you go searching on DIA. Chances are that the stunning Babe displaying lots of cleavage is either a ladyboy or a scammer, or both. Also keep in mind the time zone differences. If it is past midnight in the Philippines, who do you expect to be online and why are they there? Few girls can afford a computer, so most are in seedy 'internet cafes, jammed into tight little cubicles with their like-minded friends. If you agree to go on cam and get into the raunchy stuff, then expect that a cluster of giggling girls will be enjoying the show at your expense.
Most of the 'After Midnight ' girls are admirable entreprenuers, working diligently and creatively, throughout the night, at making money in a harsh environment.
So, 'Cheers' to them and cautions to you.
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Money Is Wasted on the Youth
Erika: [quote]if you dont mind,wat happen y u hve been dvorced??
my school,well,im kinda bz..coz its r exam alredy & my mom doesnt hve mney 2 pay 4 my tuition coz d allotment of my father dat he send ddnt rcve 8 yet.& r feasibilty study knda makes my head really,really wnts 2 xplode!hehe..we dont knw wat 2 do..r teacher,a lot of demands!i knw 8s 4 r gud so dat wen we defend,8s ok 2 luk r presentation..& ders a lot of money works n r skul..haizt! [/quote]
Dear Erika, please tell your mom and dad to spend their money on something else. The college thing isn't working...
Ayessa: [quote]hilo hon how r u now i miss u hon when we chat u hon loveu hon [/quote]
Dear Ayessa. You're my kind of girl. I can't wait to get there and get my hands on your pretty little head.
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[QUOTE=Questor 55]The old saw that "If it seems too good to be true, it isn't true. ", definitely should be remembered if you go searching on DIA. [/QUOTE]Wisely spoken words of wisdom I can confirm about with DIA contacts.
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Confirm what? Please give us your report!
[QUOTE=Rampana]Wisely spoken words of wisdom I can confirm about with DIA contacts.[/QUOTE]
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DIA survey
Last night (actually, around 5 pm Manila time), I chose 10 girls from DIA to talk with. They were chosen because they were young and pretty, were online at the time I wrote them, and live in Manila.
My profile says I am not looking for a wife, but for a lover.
I told tham I was writing from my hotel in Makati. I basically asked them all the same question: "Will you come over to my hotel in Makati right now for a nice dinner and then spend the night with me?" I gave them a short intro about being a nice guy and I added a line suggesting they could be paid for their time, but not overtly offering cash ("I am a generous man, and can make this worth your time").
The response was 2 girls said I am too old; of course, I am 55 and they are 25, so I sort of understand their point of view!
2 girls: flat out said I was a jerk, because they are not that type of woman.
2 girls said they would like to meet me, and sent me numbers to SMS. One of these two said she charged $300 USA for LT but she was worth it, because she swallows and guys love her (I kid you not- she swallows!!!). She was really very pretty, but of course the photo might not be her.
1 girl said she wanted to meet me, but was not certain what I meant about making it worth her time, as she is not interested in money. When I explained to her that I did not want her to feel that I expected her to spend time with me just out of the goodness of her heart, but that I left matters of compensation open to the woman, she sent me back her SMS and suggested we get to know each other (probably planning to sleep with me on the second date).
3 girls have not yet replied.
My conclusion is that it is not really necessary to put much time into DIA before you come to the Philippines. You can probably line up a few the night before you leave the USA.
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Maybe a week before you come
I would say that if you start hitting DIA about a week before u plan to come that's about right. it would be difficult to keep up a meaningful dialog for me than a few days, the sensible thing is just to gather numbers and yahoo IDs and say that you will call them when you get thgere. of course many guys like to chat on DIA well before then but primarily for the fun of it rather than it being a sensible use of time
[QUOTE=Forest]Last night (actually, around 5 pm Manila time), I chose 10 girls from DIA to talk with. They were chosen because they were young and pretty, were online at the time I wrote them, and live in Manila.
My profile says I am not looking for a wife, but for a lover.
I told tham I was writing from my hotel in Makati. I basically asked them all the same question: "Will you come over to my hotel in Makati right now for a nice dinner and then spend the night with me?" I gave them a short intro about being a nice guy and I added a line suggesting they could be paid for their time, but not overtly offering cash ("I am a generous man, and can make this worth your time").
The response was 2 girls said I am too old; of course, I am 55 and they are 25, so I sort of understand their point of view!
2 girls: flat out said I was a jerk, because they are not that type of woman.
2 girls said they would like to meet me, and sent me numbers to SMS. One of these two said she charged $300 USA for LT but she was worth it, because she swallows and guys love her (I kid you not- she swallows!!!). She was really very pretty, but of course the photo might not be her.
1 girl said she wanted to meet me, but was not certain what I meant about making it worth her time, as she is not interested in money. When I explained to her that I did not want her to feel that I expected her to spend time with me just out of the goodness of her heart, but that I left matters of compensation open to the woman, she sent me back her SMS and suggested we get to know each other (probably planning to sleep with me on the second date).
3 girls have not yet replied.
My conclusion is that it is not really necessary to put much time into DIA before you come to the Philippines. You can probably line up a few the night before you leave the USA.[/QUOTE]
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Using Dia, Timeline
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I would say that if you start hitting DIA about a week before you plan to come that's about right. It would be difficult to keep up a meaningful dialog for me than a few days, the sensible thing is just to gather numbers and yahoo IDs and say that you will call them when you get thgere. Of course many guys like to chat on DIA well before then but primarily for the fun of it rather than it being a sensible use of time[/QUOTE]I've used both approaches. The long term cultivation of DIA girls works best if you are looking for more than "Wham, bam, thank you, Mam! "
A potential beach resort partner requires some wooing. If you are looking for a 'quickie', then you can leave it until you arrive. This works reasonably well in the big cities, where the girls are more likely to be 'liberated'. However, in the rest of the country, girls are most likely to be quite conservative, and far less likely to respond positively to the 'right now' approach.
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Think we will try this..
Been chatting to a DIA lady 36 years old. Ok maybe shes not a former Miss World but not too bad to look at.
Says she feels " unworthy " to be a gf to me, as I'm "rich and shes poor" but would be happy to serve me. Theres a culture of caregiving in Phils thats quite strong and shes clearly got the "caregiving " bug.
Shes told me that shes only ever had sex with one man, her former husband and he left the home 5 years ago. Maybe its dry from lack of use, but I'm willing to give it a go. Anyways she says its shaved so all is not lost.
Anyways so far in our chats, weve discovered that she would be happy to first undress me (she said she could take my clothes for washing if they needed), then would be happy to massage me all over, if I was hungry she would then cook for me, but if I preferrred she would be happy to give me a full shower and body scrub.
She said we could then proceed to the bed where maybe I could take care of her.
I'm not sure what will happen at this interesting event in two weeks time but its surely going to be different to pulling an more experienced 21 year olds panties down.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Been chatting to a DIA lady 36 years old. Ok maybe shes not a former Miss World but not too bad to look at.
Says she feels " unworthy " to be a gf to me, as I'm "rich and shes poor" but would be happy to serve me. Theres a culture of caregiving in Phils thats quite strong and shes clearly got the "caregiving " bug.
Shes told me that shes only ever had sex with one man, her former husband and he left the home 5 years ago. Maybe its dry from lack of use, but I'm willing to give it a go. Anyways she says its shaved so all is not lost.
Anyways so far in our chats, weve discovered that she would be happy to first undress me (she said she could take my clothes for washing if they needed), then would be happy to massage me all over, if I was hungry she would then cook for me, but if I preferrred she would be happy to give me a full shower and body scrub.
She said we could then proceed to the bed where maybe I could take care of her.
I'm not sure what will happen at this interesting event in two weeks time but its surely going to be different to pulling an more experienced 21 year olds panties down.[/QUOTE]
FF
I admire (but am not jealous) of your journeys to the dark side, you clearly have a 'kink' I do not and I have plenty of them.....
She sound as if she has it all planned in her head when really you just want naked and horny. But please share the experience as she may hide or run at the sight of a naked white man in heat :D so make sure you bring some lube just in case she cant get wet the normal route..
At least when you are shagging her I am safe in knowing there is one more younger one for me....:)
Hopefully this year we will meet up and swap stories and girls ...as long as she is under 22 years old :)
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I have recently created a profile on DIA. As I'm not yet in the phils I haven't really started to talk to girls.
I am a swiss guy in my mid 30's. That's a problem because girls do prefer americans by far and eventually as second choice brits.
I have seen some girls that have been heavily document in the photo threat, notorious WG's. And to be honnest their profile isn't exactly different from the one of girls that are on DIA looking for a husband (and only looking for a husband). Like in poker on DIA I guess you need to identify the "tells", and I just can't interpret them. (ie: a girl in bra on her pic, does that mean she's a WG? Girls that constantly refer to "godfearing" and who says she doesn't like "players" does that mean it's a no go and shouldn't even try?)
I don't want to be an ass and break any heart (and certainly not take advantage of a freebie) or simply find myself in a difficult position. I want to meet open minded girls, that are willing to have fun today without being sure of what's going to happen tomorrow. I don't want to treat them as prostitute but I want to give them a compensatation because clearly not many of those are from upper middle classes!
I noticed only the ugly girls are messaging me (well at least in my case), then again if the girl filter americans or english, they will never see my profile.
So I guess I have to message the girls I'm interested in.
What's you're suggested (and subtile) way to test the waters and be sure the girl is on the same page. Ie: girls understand my expectations, I understand hers, I treat her nicely nice rooms, nice restaurants, few gifts. I give her a full BFE and she gives me a full GFE.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]FF
I admire (but am not jealous) of your journeys to the dark side, you clearly have a 'kink' I do not and I have plenty of them.
She sound as if she has it all planned in her head when really you just want naked and horny. But please share the experience as she may hide or run at the sight of a naked white man in heat. So make sure you bring some lube just in case she can't get wet the normal route.
At least when you are shagging her I am safe in knowing there is one more younger one for me.
Hopefully this year we will meet up and swap stories and girls. As long as she is under 22 years old.[/QUOTE]Hey WR. Well variety is the spice of whatever. They come in all ages and sizes with me. Happy to take them all on. Luckily there is a 22/24/28/30 and 31 year old on call in case this one is past her sell by date.
As for luB. My pc bag always has lube, the obligatory condoms, the spanking " ruler" always a spare g string etc as a giveaway and a few battery operated toys that seem to delight. No wonder I never take my pc bag home. LOL
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An interesting survey Forest -- thanks for that.
I've never tried such an overt approach, but it seems to offer the most bang for your buck. The only problem I see is that you may be attracting only the p4p girls. For me the whole online and / or regular girl attraction is the challenge and the potential gfe.
My approach is that I'll only be in town a few days and I'll pay your taxi fare to the meeting point. I would hope that they can infer it's a short term relationship and I'm generous. I've had about 40% success rate on the first date -- and that includes places outside of Manila and Cebu. (Someone on the Davao thread suggests different strategies are necessary for "provincial" women).
X
[QUOTE=Forest]Last night (actually, around 5 pm Manila time), I chose 10 girls from DIA to talk with. They were chosen because they were young and pretty, were online at the time I wrote them, and live in Manila.
My profile says I am not looking for a wife, but for a lover.
I told tham I was writing from my hotel in Makati. I basically asked them all the same question: "Will you come over to my hotel in Makati right now for a nice dinner and then spend the night with me?" I gave them a short intro about being a nice guy and I added a line suggesting they could be paid for their time, but not overtly offering cash ("I am a generous man, and can make this worth your time").
The response was 2 girls said I am too old; of course, I am 55 and they are 25, so I sort of understand their point of view!
2 girls: flat out said I was a jerk, because they are not that type of woman.
2 girls said they would like to meet me, and sent me numbers to SMS. One of these two said she charged $300 USA for LT but she was worth it, because she swallows and guys love her (I kid you not- she swallows!!!). She was really very pretty, but of course the photo might not be her.
1 girl said she wanted to meet me, but was not certain what I meant about making it worth her time, as she is not interested in money. When I explained to her that I did not want her to feel that I expected her to spend time with me just out of the goodness of her heart, but that I left matters of compensation open to the woman, she sent me back her SMS and suggested we get to know each other (probably planning to sleep with me on the second date).
3 girls have not yet replied.
My conclusion is that it is not really necessary to put much time into DIA before you come to the Philippines. You can probably line up a few the night before you leave the USA.[/QUOTE]
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If she's that hot to trot with some guy she happened to meet on the Internet, what is the likliehood that she actually hasn't had another man in five years?
This is not a rhetorical question -- I'd really like to hear opinions.
You may have heard Filipinas at 25+ saying they are "old". My own experiences have been great targeting the 27-35 age group. They really do seem to be neglected!
On a recent trip, I thought I was going to a home party with a few people. I was introduced from a Filipina friend who lives outside of the Philippines. Friend tells me to meet up with her sis, and sis invites me over to a "home party". It turns the party is attended only by the 36 year old sis and her colleague -- the colleague soon leaves. I had no interest in the woman, but I couldn't just walk out. I was sweating a bit and she suggested I take off my shirt (I didn't), and later offers to wipe me down with a towel. And finally, it's dangerous to go out this time of the night, you can spend the night here. I was tempted to give her a courtesy fk but was afraid my lack of attraction for her would mean a less than satisfying evening for both of us.
FF, Looking forward to hearing how this one works out. Good luck. X
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Been chatting to a DIA lady 36 years old. Ok maybe shes not a former Miss World but not too bad to look at.
Says she feels " unworthy " to be a gf to me, as I'm "rich and shes poor" but would be happy to serve me. Theres a culture of caregiving in Phils thats quite strong and shes clearly got the "caregiving " bug.
Shes told me that shes only ever had sex with one man, her former husband and he left the home 5 years ago. Maybe its dry from lack of use, but I'm willing to give it a go. Anyways she says its shaved so all is not lost.
Anyways so far in our chats, weve discovered that she would be happy to first undress me (she said she could take my clothes for washing if they needed), then would be happy to massage me all over, if I was hungry she would then cook for me, but if I preferrred she would be happy to give me a full shower and body scrub.
She said we could then proceed to the bed where maybe I could take care of her.
I'm not sure what will happen at this interesting event in two weeks time but its surely going to be different to pulling an more experienced 21 year olds panties down.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Been chatting to a DIA lady 36 years old. Ok maybe shes not a former Miss World but not too bad to look at.
Says she feels " unworthy " to be a gf to me, as I'm "rich and shes poor" but would be happy to serve me. Theres a culture of caregiving in Phils thats quite strong and shes clearly got the "caregiving " bug.
Shes told me that shes only ever had sex with one man, her former husband and he left the home 5 years ago. Maybe its dry from lack of use, but I'm willing to give it a go. Anyways she says its shaved so all is not lost.
Anyways so far in our chats, weve discovered that she would be happy to first undress me (she said she could take my clothes for washing if they needed), then would be happy to massage me all over, if I was hungry she would then cook for me, but if I preferrred she would be happy to give me a full shower and body scrub.
She said we could then proceed to the bed where maybe I could take care of her.
I'm not sure what will happen at this interesting event in two weeks time but its surely going to be different to pulling an more experienced 21 year olds panties down.[/QUOTE]Thought would add to my own post hereas it seems to have attracted some comments and PM's.
I don't think this one is particularly experienced as shes certainly not exactly pc savvy. She didn't know how to direct me to a Tagged site her friend made for her, and when I found it I became her only friend, she has no idea how to send pics, and when I called yesterday (have to check the voice to make sure its not a potential bakla) she asked if it was me, saying she never had any international calls. Anyways, nothing ventured nothing gained.
I've been told several times " you are my fourth" " you are my third". Well now we will try for the " you are my second" LOL.
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What was she saying...
Got a DIA message today as follows..I quote
"hi!!!hoe are you im looking a goos person as my friend and i think is that you hmm...anyway if your good person?im so very good also higher from you hahaha!!!! "
Guess we wont be pursiing this particular one. !
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Hey WR. Well variety is the spice of whatever. They come in all ages and sizes with me. Happy to take them all on. Luckily there is a 22/24/28/30 and 31 year old on call in case this one is past her sell by date.
As for luB. My pc bag always has lube, the obligatory condoms, the spanking " ruler" always a spare g string etc as a giveaway and a few battery operated toys that seem to delight. No wonder I never take my pc bag home. LOL[/QUOTE]
LOL
I am also a firm believer in accessorising....some nice bondage stuff (at tiems chosen by the girl froma very naughty web site) is also included in my bag plus some FM heels and otehr clotehs (PVC a favourite). Never been stopped at customs and asked about it but if I am not sure if I should say "for pesonal use" in case am asked to demonstrate :D
See you this year FF
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Tagged
G'day, I've been cultivating a few prospects off Tagged for my trip to AC in Feb. On the whole I've been very happy with the responses. I make it clear I'm not husband material and that I am looking for fun, but also that I will treat them with respect. I've been chatting to about 8 on YM. All want to meet but I'm really only interested in about 3 of them. Youngest and biggest tits. It's been interesting though. Two of them came straight out with pleas for money and one even provided her bank account details on her first email. This one on the pretext of not having sufficient funds for her next year of study at nursing school. The other was a classic. In the past fortnight she's lost her job, is being taken to court for non payment of her internet account, has no savings, no money, no friends, no family (she doesn't talk to her brother and sister apparently) and no food to eat. I felt like telling her "sweetheart, your fuck'd, u'd better just kill urself now". I didn't though. I'm much too polite. But who does she think she's fooling. Surely no one would fall for that?
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Scams
[QUOTE=Sexy Geezer]G'day, I've been cultivating a few prospects off Tagged for my trip to AC in Feb. On the whole I've been very happy with the responses. I make it clear I'm not husband material and that I am looking for fun, but also that I will treat them with respect. I've been chatting to about 8 on YM. All want to meet but I'm really only interested in about 3 of them. Youngest and biggest tits. It's been interesting though. Two of them came straight out with pleas for money and one even provided her bank account details on her first email. This one on the pretext of not having sufficient funds for her next year of study at nursing school. The other was a classic. In the past fortnight she's lost her job, is being taken to court for non payment of her internet account, has no savings, no money, no friends, no family (she doesn't talk to her brother and sister apparently) and no food to eat. I felt like telling her "sweetheart, your fuck'd, u'd better just kill urself now". I didn't though. I'm much too polite. But who does she think she's fooling. Surely no one would fall for that?[/QUOTE]
Not everyone is a member of forums like this. LOL Your experience is entirely typical. The scammers fall broadly into several categories.
1 The professionals - more often than not ladyboys - who are typically smarter than the girls who basically see scamming as a full time job - often they will live a nocturnal life dictated by the US - Phils time difference and be on the net 10 hours a day. These guys can make 20-100k pesos a month depending how good they are (contrasting with about 6k a month typical shop job.). Huge range of sob stories varying in sophistication. landslides, cancerous grandmothers, dieing younger brothers, fares to come and meet you at the airport etc the list is endless, but rarely includes, "I really fancy the latest mobile phone". The upper end of the market is probably "pay my nursing fees for a year so that I can qualify as a nurse, get a job in your town repay all your money and suck your dick 3 times a day." guys can be taken for $500-1000 on that one.
2 The pro cam girls - these are girl/ladyboys working for pro cam sites. generally the patter will be along the lines I'd really like to show you everything, you just have to log onto this site and provide a credit card details for verification purposes ........ if you go for this please pin a white card to your chest with the words "sucker" on it.
3 The Amateur cam girls. these are girls who heard how easy it is to make money caming so will promise to show you everything ..once you have zoomed (or Western union) them $25-50. i don't know what proportion of the girls follow through. I guess the tactic should be to send a little at first with the promise of more. The girls probably get ripped off more than the guys with guys promising to pay, getting some sort of show then once they have cum disappearing into cyber space. A couple of "my" girls did this as a sideline whilst hanging out with me and i have to say the guys on the other end got a damm good show for their money. If you are a Mr Lonely in Wyoming or Mr Marrried in Milwawkee spending $25-50 with these girls is probably great value compared with say 5 mins on a US sex chat line speaking to a fat, ugly and bored middle aged woman in the US. These girls are usually up for real life meetings if you are in the Phils and by and large are much more liberated and sexual than their "good girl" counterparts for obvious reasons.
4 The speculative girls. These are girls who by and large are up for a meeting in reality. However once a girl spends a few weeks on the net she quickly realises that 95% of the guys she is talking to and burning valuable pesos chatting to will either never set foot in the Phils or if they do wonder off with the first girl he happens to come across when leaving the airport or has a list of 50 "probably", "maybe" and "only if I'm desperate " targets. From her perspective the chances of anything much coming out of it are sub 2%. In these circumstances it is entirely rational for the girl to try and get some cash in advance either to fund internet time, or pay for a fare to meet you etc. I'm not sure what proportion just disappear and what will show up if you come. by and large this class of girl is desperate to actually meet a foreigner in real life as this is their only hope of a ticket out, so I guess many will show up. however my rule is simply to never send money in advance so i don't know for sure.
greg
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You did the right thing.
She's heard about other people making easy money so she's given it a try. If you confront her she might give up, but more likely she'll hone her technique.
There is a lot of talk about the suckers who lose a lot of money to the scammers, but I'd be willing to be that most of those scammers are quite good -- not anything like the lady described by Sxy Gzer.
Just stay polite and move on. Unloading on them may feel good, but it just hardens them.
X
[QUOTE=Sexy Geezer]G'day,
SNIP
I felt like telling her "sweetheart, your fuck'd, u'd better just kill urself now". I didn't though. I'm much too polite. But who does she think she's fooling. Surely no one would fall for that?[/QUOTE]
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Admitting that I have wired funds to girls, as a compensation for their internet expense. Its funny when you ask for their full name to send the funds, and instead of say, Maggie Magsaysay, it's "Michael Magsaysay". haha and I ask that sounds like a guys name, and they say "oh they made a mistake on my birth cert". har har.
Also, repeating a story I related about my fiance/wife. She was chatting up guys while in the US, asking for funds for in one example i know about: to secure a tourist visa to come to the US (and meet them)! Presumably she would have the funds send to her mother. I know she used her mothers name in setting up additional chat profiles.
These days I do send some "load" via Chikka. You can spend as little as $3-6. Mostly I use it to ask them to come into town to chat with me. If its going to aunties phone instead of the girls, its all the same, since I am asking for a little performance. If they start asking for more I cut them off.
But not to be too jaded. After all we are targeting girls who are poor, and they are looking for wealthy men to save them. I have been chatting with a very sexy and smart girl. She had a western BF before and clearly knows the score. She lost her job and moved back with her family in the "province" so only rarely comes online. I send her some load and we txt back and forth from time to time. She doesn't ask for WU funds, and I don't really offer, as I know she's hot and have her on my "A" list already. I know a few girls like that. Can't get the little bit of dough to come online, but are sweet and never ask. Just, "I'm sorry but I don't have enough to come online much". Yah maybe a play, but fine with me. I get tired of chatting. My priorities are: get her YM address, cell phone number, webcam a bit and get some good pics to determine how she looks, asses the tits to chubbiness ratio, save it, and move on.
One thing I look for. If the chat profile name does not match the yahoo email name. Sometimes she's using a nick name, but at times its clearly two different identities. For instance a girls name in the profile, but its a guys name in the Yahoo email. gotcha..
Once I move to the PI, setting up an amateur cam girl room in my place...hmm an idea. Probably get me busted though...haha
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Bacolod Chat-mate Experience
I spent almost a week in Bacolod, and reported in the “Other Areas” forum. Here is my chat-mate experience.
Over 2-3 months prior to my trip I made contact and chatted with 4-5 Filipinas from Bacolod on DateInAsia.com and Cebuanas.com. One chat-mate in particular, Joan, (picture below) was a good learning experience for me! We chatted first on Cebuanas then on Yahoo Messenger, and exchanged emails. The gist over a number of chats went something like this, and skipping the “Hi, Hello, and How are you?” repetitive stuff:
JOAN: So you are from Australia?
KONGKING: Yep
JOAN: I am interested in getting some Australian videos
KONGKING: What kind of videos?
JOAN: Body-building videos
KONGKING: Oh! (surprised that a 21 year old 4’11”, 38kg Filipina is into that kind of thing). For you?
JOAN: No, for my dad, he copies them for local distribution (surely with the owner’s permission!?)
KONGKING: Any particular body-building videos?
JOAN: If you go to this Australian web mail-order site I would like 4 videos (names given). Can you order them for me and mail them to me?
KONGKING: Why don’t you order direct, it’s a mail order site?
JOAN: I don’t have the Australian money
KONGKING: You don’t need Australian money. Philippines pesos would be converted when you on-line purchase
JOAN: I don’t have the pesos
KONGKING: So you want me to buy and mail to you?
JOAN: Yes. I am a loving Filipina and I will make it worthwhile for you. I am a passionate sexy Filipina lady and I can give you all the pleasures you need
KONGKING: Great! I will check that web-site out for you
[followed a few days later by a cam chat full of lovey-dovey stuff and erotic promises if I could get the videos for her]
KONGKING (in an email to her): Joan, you are obviously a good business woman working to help your Dad. I can help you but here are my terms of supply:
1. I will purchase and pay for 1 and up to 3 DVDs by mail order from the Australian web site you specified;
2. I will order within one week of you confirming acceptance of this email;
3. I will deliver personally to you in the Philippines;
4. You say you are a "passionate sexy Filipina lady", and you will give me all the pleasures I need, without restriction;
5. We (just you and I) will meet probably in Dumaguete but maybe in Bacolod (my choice). I will pay for our accommodation food and transport;
6. You will receive one DVD after staying each full 24 hour period you stay with me;
7. I will endeavour to make your time with me enjoyable and relaxing.
Joan, please reply and confirm your acceptance with the above 7 points. It is and hopefully will be a pleasure doing this business with you. What do you say?
JOAN: I agree with all that. But could you post the DVD to me?
KONGKING: No, I would purchase one and deliver it personally to you and we could then talk about purchasing the others
[two weeks pass]
KONGKING: Still interested in the deal?
JOAN: Yes, but we meet here in Bacolod, can’t come to Dumaguete. My dad won’t allow me. He protects me.
KONGKING: I’m thinking of going to Bacolod now. Can you come to my hotel?
JOAN: Yes, as many times as you wish. I will give u all the pleasures u need. I can stay with you when u come here. Let me know when. Can you purchase and mail it to me? Love Joan
KONGKING: No, we agreed that I would deliver the video personally to you
JOAN: Oh, ok. I can meet you in any hotel here in Bacolod city. We can be discreet.
[One body-building video purchased. Then a week before arriving in Bacolod off-line messages sent/received as follows]
KONGKING: I look forward to seeing you next week. Everything ok?
JOAN: Yes, we meet in a Mall with my (ladyboy) brother
KONGKING: I am here to see you, at my hotel, as you agreed, and I am not here to see your brother
JOAN [one day before my arrival in Bacolod]: So sorry well guess by not sending the DVD here only indicates that you don’t have trust in me. So I can’t meet you here in Bacolod so please don’t waste your time. Move on to other city to find some sluts and *****s. Good luck in your search. You can keep the DVD.
[Anyone want a well-travelled body-building video: “Fibo Gold 1985-2005”?!]
By this stage, on arrival in Bacolod, I had 4 other Bacolod chat-mates, two of them really promising (but promising what?) and two luke-warm possibilities. Joan was history and one of the really promising ones now tells me her grand-mother has died and she was heading out of town for a week. How many grandmothers do some of these girls have?
So I put Plan B into operation. I open DateInAsia, go to “Search” and insert: Female, aged 21-29, Philippines, Bacolod (and Bacolod City), on-line now, with photo. I spot three possibilities and send the following DIA message: “Hi dear X, I see you online now. I have just arrived in Bacolod late afternoon. Was going to see my chat-mate but she has gone on holiday to Palawan!! Not a serious relationship, obviously. So I thought I would take a chance and see if I could find, meet, another possible chat mate. I am here for 2-3 days before bussing to Dumaguete. If you are interested in us meeting, say in a Bacolod Mall, give me a call on 09---------. Hugs, Kongking”
Within one hour I get two text message and DIA responses, and after a week the third had not opened her DIA message.
Summary of the week: One of my new contacts was a lovely 21 year old with child. She was great company. She joined me sometimes twice a day, on and off (pun intended) over the week. We will keep in contact. The second new contact, a sweet 23 year old requires more nurturing. I met her at her work; she visited during the lunch hour, very nice and platonic. The longer-term “really promising” chat-mate was a 25 year old and we met twice with her cousins, one who turned out to be one of the other lesser possibilities! It’s a small world in a town of half a million! These girls work together and are often on-line together. A potentially embarrassing situation was laughed over by all of us.
Lessons learnt: never send money, or buy body-building videos (!), for people unseen and unmet. Sometimes short time acquaintances can be just as, or more productive, than longer term chat relationships. However, I have said it before
[ [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=754259#754259[/url] ], I see 4 stages in a relationship and I get just as much enjoyment out of stage two (the “fun stage”) as the gonad satisfying 3rd stage!
KongKing
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Classic LB
[QUOTE=KongKing]I spent almost a week in Bacolod, and reported in the “Other Areas” forum. Here is my chat-mate experience.
Over 2-3 months prior to my trip I made contact and chatted with 4-5 Filipinas from Bacolod on DateInAsia.com and Cebuanas.com. One chat-mate in particular, Joan, (picture below) was a good learning experience for me! We chatted first on Cebuanas then on Yahoo Messenger, and exchanged emails. The gist over a number of chats went something like this, and skipping the “Hi, Hello, and How are you?” repetitive stuff:
JOAN: So you are from Australia?
KONGKING: Yep
JOAN: I am interested in getting some Australian videos
KONGKING: What kind of videos?
JOAN: Body-building videos
KONGKING: Oh! (surprised that a 21 year old 4’11”, 38kg Filipina is into that kind of thing). For you?
JOAN: No, for my dad, he copies them for local distribution (surely with the owner’s permission!?)
KONGKING: Any particular body-building videos?
JOAN: If you go to this Australian web mail-order site I would like 4 videos (names given). Can you order them for me and mail them to me?
KONGKING: Why don’t you order direct, it’s a mail order site?
JOAN: I don’t have the Australian money
KONGKING: You don’t need Australian money. Philippines pesos would be converted when you on-line purchase
JOAN: I don’t have the pesos
KONGKING: So you want me to buy and mail to you?
JOAN: Yes. I am a loving Filipina and I will make it worthwhile for you. I am a passionate sexy Filipina lady and I can give you all the pleasures you need
KONGKING: Great! I will check that web-site out for you
[followed a few days later by a cam chat full of lovey-dovey stuff and erotic promises if I could get the videos for her]
KONGKING (in an email to her): Joan, you are obviously a good business woman working to help your Dad. I can help you but here are my terms of supply:
1. I will purchase and pay for 1 and up to 3 DVDs by mail order from the Australian web site you specified;
2. I will order within one week of you confirming acceptance of this email;
3. I will deliver personally to you in the Philippines;
4. You say you are a "passionate sexy Filipina lady", and you will give me all the pleasures I need, without restriction;
5. We (just you and I) will meet probably in Dumaguete but maybe in Bacolod (my choice). I will pay for our accommodation food and transport;
6. You will receive one DVD after staying each full 24 hour period you stay with me;
7. I will endeavour to make your time with me enjoyable and relaxing.
Joan, please reply and confirm your acceptance with the above 7 points. It is and hopefully will be a pleasure doing this business with you. What do you say?
JOAN: I agree with all that. But could you post the DVD to me?
KONGKING: No, I would purchase one and deliver it personally to you and we could then talk about purchasing the others
[two weeks pass]
KONGKING: Still interested in the deal?
JOAN: Yes, but we meet here in Bacolod, can’t come to Dumaguete. My dad won’t allow me. He protects me.
KONGKING: I’m thinking of going to Bacolod now. Can you come to my hotel?
JOAN: Yes, as many times as you wish. I will give u all the pleasures u need. I can stay with you when u come here. Let me know when. Can you purchase and mail it to me? Love Joan
KONGKING: No, we agreed that I would deliver the video personally to you
JOAN: Oh, ok. I can meet you in any hotel here in Bacolod city. We can be discreet.
[One body-building video purchased. Then a week before arriving in Bacolod off-line messages sent/received as follows]
KONGKING: I look forward to seeing you next week. Everything ok?
JOAN: Yes, we meet in a Mall with my (ladyboy) brother
KONGKING: I am here to see you, at my hotel, as you agreed, and I am not here to see your brother
JOAN [one day before my arrival in Bacolod]: So sorry well guess by not sending the DVD here only indicates that you don’t have trust in me. So I can’t meet you here in Bacolod so please don’t waste your time. Move on to other city to find some sluts and *****s. Good luck in your search. You can keep the DVD.
[Anyone want a well-travelled body-building video: “Fibo Gold 1985-2005”?!]
By this stage, on arrival in Bacolod, I had 4 other Bacolod chat-mates, two of them really promising (but promising what?) and two luke-warm possibilities. Joan was history and one of the really promising ones now tells me her grand-mother has died and she was heading out of town for a week. How many grandmothers do some of these girls have?
So I put Plan B into operation. I open DateInAsia, go to “Search” and insert: Female, aged 21-29, Philippines, Bacolod (and Bacolod City), on-line now, with photo. I spot three possibilities and send the following DIA message: “Hi dear X, I see you online now. I have just arrived in Bacolod late afternoon. Was going to see my chat-mate but she has gone on holiday to Palawan!! Not a serious relationship, obviously. So I thought I would take a chance and see if I could find, meet, another possible chat mate. I am here for 2-3 days before bussing to Dumaguete. If you are interested in us meeting, say in a Bacolod Mall, give me a call on 09---------. Hugs, Kongking”
Within one hour I get two text message and DIA responses, and after a week the third had not opened her DIA message.
Summary of the week: One of my new contacts was a lovely 21 year old with child. She was great company. She joined me sometimes twice a day, on and off (pun intended) over the week. We will keep in contact. The second new contact, a sweet 23 year old requires more nurturing. I met her at her work; she visited during the lunch hour, very nice and platonic. The longer-term “really promising” chat-mate was a 25 year old and we met twice with her cousins, one who turned out to be one of the other lesser possibilities! It’s a small world in a town of half a million! These girls work together and are often on-line together. A potentially embarrassing situation was laughed over by all of us.
Lessons learnt: never send money, or buy body-building videos (!), for people unseen and unmet. Sometimes short time acquaintances can be just as, or more productive, than longer term chat relationships. However, I have said it before
[ [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=754259#754259[/url] ], I see 4 stages in a relationship and I get just as much enjoyment out of stage two (the “fun stage”) as the gonad satisfying 3rd stage!
KongKing[/QUOTE]
This is a classic example of a gay/LB dialogue. Whenever the chat mate shows sign of commercial understanding and clear thinking one should start to be suspicious that one is talking to an LB. They are generally much smarter than the girls. Will come straighgt to the point about promising any sexual needs fulfilled. if they are not convincing they can get a female friend to front up some web cam time. if you dont send anything and a meeting seems necessary then the can a bring an LB relative freind etc is a common tactic. they usually have some female friend who can come and be talked into fucking you if necessary and they will just get commission prob about 50%. they lioke to come along too to make sure they are in control of the situation i think.
In general unless you are into them steer well clear they are generally a pain.
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Small towns
If like KK you are planning to go to a town with not many other foreign visitors you may find it useful to use Friendster or Tagged.
The numbers of girls active on the dating sites from small /untouristed towns (except in Mindanao) may be relatively low as they dont get enough guys coming there to make it interesting. However girls from these places will often sign up for friendster/tagged which are primily social web sites rather than dating sites. (I think tagged has about 10x the active members as even DIA)
Friendster is the most popular of all but not so easy to seach send messages to targets as is tagged. I was in Puerto Princesa, palawan (A lovely island) and DIA was more or less useless there, but I got quite a few from tagged.
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Dia
I got a friend who was messing around and put a ad on DIA stating that he is an old millionaire who is lonely and wants to give all his money away before he dies. He ask any girl who wanted to go to school, needed money for mother, father, sister, brother or cousins, or if they needed money for a carabao heart transplant, ladyboys who wanted to have implants and on and on.
His ad is so unbelievable that he thought that he would not get one message. He got 200 in 36 hours:D OIP (Only in the Philippines)
Robb
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Not irrational
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I got a friend who was messing around and put a ad on DIA stating that he is an old millionaire who is lonely and wants to give all his money away before he dies. He ask any girl who wanted to go to school, needed money for mother, father, sister, brother or cousins, or if they needed money for a carabao heart transplant, ladyboys who wanted to have implants and on and on.
His ad is so unbelievable that he thought that he would not get one message. He got 200 in 36 hours:D OIP (Only in the Philippines)
Robb[/QUOTE]
For sure all of them thought that it was 99% chance bullshit, but to copy and paste a message and hit send costs about 0.1 peso and so if you think its a more than 0.0001 % chance its true then it makes sense to hit that send. And more than 0.0001% of Americans are completely crazy for sure
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]I got a friend who was messing around and put a ad on DIA stating that he is an old millionaire who is lonely and wants to give all his money away before he dies. He ask any girl who wanted to go to school, needed money for mother, father, sister, brother or cousins, or if they needed money for a carabao heart transplant, ladyboys who wanted to have implants and on and on.
His ad is so unbelievable that he thought that he would not get one message. He got 200 in 36 hours:D OIP (Only in the Philippines)
Robb[/QUOTE]Well, that post was no more unbelievable than a hot 18-year-old girl wanting to marry a 60-year-old man "for love" or claiming that "age doesn't matter." Sometimes people like to believe the fantasy, even when is unbelievable.
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Ouch...
There are those of us who believe the fantasy for the fun of it (the so-called gfe), and there are those who swallow the hook, line and sinker. (fishing analogy)
Oh, wait, there are some who criticize us cranky old men for taking advantage of the poor innocent gals who demand "serious" men up to 70. Thanks Radical Guy for the smelling salts.
How's YOUR search? X
[QUOTE=Radical Guy]Well, that post was no more unbelievable than a hot 18-year-old girl wanting to marry a 60-year-old man "for love" or claiming that "age doesn't matter." Sometimes people like to believe the fantasy, even when is unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
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Point taken, but some of those ladies were intelligent enought to get the joke and were hoping to meet someone with a sense of humor.
Can the original poster share some of the replies....that WOULD be interesting. X
[QUOTE=GregLondon]For sure all of them thought that it was 99% chance bullshit, but to copy and paste a message and hit send costs about 0.1 peso and so if you think its a more than 0.0001 % chance its true then it makes sense to hit that send. And more than 0.0001% of Americans are completely crazy for sure[/QUOTE]
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Watch out for DIA girls
Been in Manila for 3 weeks. I have tried the regular bar scene before, but was new to the Chat date scene. I placed an ad on DIA and started to chat. What I found was interesting, but turned out to be scary.
First of all it was easy to strike up chats with the girls. There are several types of girls on DIA.
1) Husband hunters. Just stay away.
2) Lonely girl who wants a white guy. Good sex possibiliites if you buy candy or take her to dinner. Be careful as they can get clingly.
3) Profesional girls. Pay for video chat, pay for meet, etc. Mostly scams so stay away.
4) Novice or First time Girl. Low cost. I found one who stayed the entire weekend with me for 1KP.
5) Girls with diseases. Just watch out for girls who want to keep the lights off because they are shy. Covering up it manadtorywith these girls. I met one that looked like she had herpies and another that loked like she was infested with Scabies or crabs.
Think with your big head and put the little head away.
After my last experience, there is no way I would meet another DIA girl, even if some of them are damn near free.
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[QUOTE=Kycock]Been in Manila for 3 weeks. I have tried the regular bar scene before, but was new to the Chat date scene. I placed an ad on DIA and started to chat. What I found was interesting, but turned out to be scary.
First of all it was easy to strike up chats with the girls. There are several types of girls on DIA.
1) Husband hunters. Just stay away.
2) Lonely girl who wants a white guy. Good sex possibiliites if you buy candy or take her to dinner. Be careful as they can get clingly.
3) Profesional girls. Pay for video chat, pay for meet, etc. Mostly scams so stay away.
4) Novice or First time Girl. Low cost. I found one who stayed the entire weekend with me for 1KP.
5) Girls with diseases. Just watch out for girls who want to keep the lights off because they are shy. Covering up it manadtorywith these girls. I met one that looked like she had herpies and another that loked like she was infested with Scabies or crabs.
Think with your big head and put the little head away.
After my last experience, there is no way I would meet another DIA girl, even if some of them are damn near free.
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Its not the first time..
Was in a hotel in London the other day and with nothing better to do (was damn cold!) thought would start a chat with one of my prospects for next weeks Manila trip.
Well my friend was online and on cam with a friend by her side also chatting. They were at home and drinking Red Horse.
Thats a strong beer for most Filipinas so I knew there would be some fun.
Sure enough, after I prompt them to turn the music on they get dancing.
Then my friends friend starts to show some cleavage.
After a while she removes her top and dances in her bra. Then her shorts.
This was fun to watch, then my friend gets jealous. Filipinas will always get jealous.
So she leaves the room. The dancing friend now starts asking me " if I like her". I said I don't know her. She says " if you like me, I will take bra and panties off" I reply " sure honey. I like you" I really like you LOL". And shes there buck naked.
Now my friend comes back and theres clearly an argument.
Naked girl runs off and my friend is pissed at me for encouraging girl to get naked.
I tell her the friend has nice boobs. She says " mine are better". And she gets top off to prove it.
I said her friend had a big ass. " she then drops her shorts to show hers is cuter.
Well what else are you supposed to do when cold in a London hotel.
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Don't be fooled by appearances
[QUOTE=Kycock]Been in Manila for 3 weeks. I have tried the regular bar scene before, but was new to the Chat date scene. I placed an ad on DIA and started to chat. What I found was interesting, but turned out to be scary.
First of all it was easy to strike up chats with the girls. There are several types of girls on DIA.
1) Husband hunters. Just stay away.
2) Lonely girl who wants a white guy. Good sex possibiliites if you buy candy or take her to dinner. Be careful as they can get clingly.
3) Profesional girls. Pay for video chat, pay for meet, etc. Mostly scams so stay away.
4) Novice or First time Girl. Low cost. I found one who stayed the entire weekend with me for 1KP.
5) Girls with diseases. Just watch out for girls who want to keep the lights off because they are shy. Covering up it manadtorywith these girls. I met one that looked like she had herpies and another that loked like she was infested with Scabies or crabs.
Think with your big head and put the little head away.
After my last experience, there is no way I would meet another DIA girl, even if some of them are damn near free.
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No problem if you want to stay away from DIA - the less competition the better LOL, but in my view you are missing the most interesting type. The sideline girl. These are girls who are students, have a regular job or are one of the army of unemployed in the phils. Remember the site does not allow girls to offer sex for money so they can't say this and also they don't want to get a bad reputation amongst their friends and family. So they will write stuff about meeting Mr Wonderful for a long term relationship. In reality most girls understand that it may be years if ever that Mr Wonderful turns up and in the meantime they are ALWAYS short of cash. For these girls the odd 500p / 1000P from a 3 hour/all night session is a very welcome contribution to their rent or savings for their next cell phone.
Younger girls in this situation will generally be far more appreciative of you taking them to Jollybees, fucking them (preferably not at Jollybees) and slipping then 500P as "taxi money" keep the change than you taking them to a fancy Westernised restaurant and spendinmg the same money on them. if you are targeting the 35+ divorcee market it may be different.
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GregfugginLondon.....!!!!!!!!
Some of us want to open the door.
You seem to want to open the door and lead the friggin clueless into our bedrooms - well...her bedrooms.
Get a life wanker!
Don't read anything below this. It's rubbish!
[QUOTE=GregLondon]No problem if you want to stay away from DIA - the less competition the better LOL, but in my view you are missing the most interesting type. The sideline girl. These are girls who are students, have a regular job or are one of the army of unemployed in the phils. Remember the site does not allow girls to offer sex for money so they can't say this and also they don't want to get a bad reputation amongst their friends and family. So they will write stuff about meeting Mr Wonderful for a long term relationship. In reality most girls understand that it may be years if ever that Mr Wonderful turns up and in the meantime they are ALWAYS short of cash. For these girls the odd 500p / 1000P from a 3 hour/all night session is a very welcome contribution to their rent or savings for their next cell phone.
Younger girls in this situation will generally be far more appreciative of you taking them to Jollybees, fucking them (preferably not at Jollybees) and slipping then 500P as "taxi money" keep the change than you taking them to a fancy Westernised restaurant and spendinmg the same money on them. if you are targeting the 35+ divorcee market it may be different.[/QUOTE]
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Was gonna make a relevant post, but I think I will wait until the most recent wave of baiting passes.
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I'm bored myself with the la café or bar scene from AC so I was thinking going to DIA to try a new flavor.
However, I'm worried about a few things.
How to pick up, I mean those girls who advertise they are looking for someone to marry in the west, I wonder at which point I should bring up that it's likely not going to happen and that I'm willing to provide a contribution! (not easy to bring up).
Preferably before the deed as I don't want for the girl to feel abused.
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[QUOTE=X Man]GregfugginLondon.....!!!!!!!!
Some of us want to open the door.
You seem to want to open the door and lead the friggin clueless into our bedrooms - well...her bedrooms.
Don't read anything below this. It's rubbish![/QUOTE]
You have a reasonable point X Man, if not very diplomatically put. In my defence I reckon there must be around 10m target Phils girls, around 500,000 signed up to DIA and around 50,000 active members so there are quite a few to go around, even if a few of the clueless do up their game. That said the cuter girls on DIA are getting pretty snowed with emails so maybe XM is right that the door should be left ajar rather than wide open.
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it's English!
dimple_cutez
i want a guy that is serious,reall,understanding,,loving,kind,and can love me with in his senserity and can accept me for what i am and not for who i am.and i dont like someone whose just aftering for a sex and i hate liars and for those guys that are just playing games sorry i dont want us to hurt me again..its hard to be hurt .i know its hard to find our halfs in our lives but someday i believe that they will come in the right time....enjoy searching and dont play with love
*** wow, was that one sentence? And does anyone really understand what she means when she writes, "can accept me for what i am and not for who i am." Whenever I hear the "what I am" phrase, I immediately look for signs of maleness.
X
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My own exp. is that the online gal targets don't work well in AC and MNL is a problem simply because of traffic.
I usually give a miss to the ones who specifically suggest marriage.
As for being honest, just be honest! "I'm looking for friends...tour guides...etc."
Afterwards, "I'm only in country for a week (or three) and no matter how much I care for you....I'll be gone / we'll be seperated..."
As for "contribution", just suggest that "I'll pay your taxi fare...". Or, "I'm on holiday and don't want to fuss about with money so please take this $$$ and you take care of OUR expenses today."
I recommend something VERY simple for a first meeting....mall food court for example. It can only get better if you do it that way.
I'm sure many folks here will have different strategies. This is what works for me. I have four now who still communicate with me after migrating to the West, so I apparently haven't created any lifelong enemies.
X
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm bored myself with the la café or bar scene from AC so I was thinking going to DIA to try a new flavor.
However, I'm worried about a few things.
How to pick up, I mean those girls who advertise they are looking for someone to marry in the west, I wonder at which point I should bring up that it's likely not going to happen and that I'm willing to provide a contribution! (not easy to bring up).
Preferably before the deed as I don't want for the girl to feel abused.[/QUOTE]
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They Never Forget
Its embarrassing how long I have been doing the pen pal thing. Since I was in college like 30 years ago! Cherry Blossoms came out in magazine format then, and I wrote letters.
Well about 20 years ago, still before the Internet, I flew from my duty station in Japan to Davao to meet a pen friend. All very nice, but nothing came of it. I didn't touch her (thankfully!) Ok I broke her kissing cherry, that's all!
Ok fast forward to this week. I am chatting on cam with a girl who lived in Davao and she says, "wait, did you date my sister ***? I think so" And she proceeds to relate details of that encounter 20 years ago! I did keep a little photo album of that trip, and found it and showed it to the girl. And there, in one of the family line-up pics, she says "oh that's me, the 3yo sucking my thumb" haha.
She said that when she was in college her sister let her read the letters I wrote to her. Later she starts giving me a little shit in the name of her sister like "why didn't I write to her" and "you know she stopped writing to all other friends" and then "you know she is still single, only one child and not too fat" haha
Unfortunately, younger sister does not seem to have inherited the fairly large tits her older sister had. shame.
Man, they like keep dossiers on you. Perhaps even an Intelligence network.
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Jambo, that´s an unbelievable story! Good thing it was the younger sister and not a daughter.
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accept me for what I am
[QUOTE=X Man]dimple_cutez
i want a guy that is serious,reall,understanding,,loving,kind,and can love me with in his senserity and can accept me for what i am and not for who i am.and i dont like someone whose just aftering for a sex and i hate liars and for those guys that are just playing games sorry i dont want us to hurt me again..its hard to be hurt .i know its hard to find our halfs in our lives but someday i believe that they will come in the right time....enjoy searching and dont play with love
*** wow, was that one sentence? And does anyone really understand what she means when she writes, "can accept me for what i am and not for who i am." Whenever I hear the "what I am" phrase, I immediately look for signs of maleness.
X[/QUOTE]
According to my girl here in Cebu this would generally be code for 1 or more of 3 possibilities (1) ladyboy (2) poor/low class/uneducated family (3) unmarried mum.
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Helping out the girls
[QUOTE=GregLondon]
eg a really cute and accomodating girl i met a few days ago , Nelsa
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=b4100c1e-e99e-45fb-85cf-3d76e9bc6853[/url]
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Kudos to you Greg, you are one of the more proactive and useful members of ISG in that you are generous and put cute young things in the way of your fellow members as well as helping them shape their profiles. I like to think that I also am of a similar mindset although I seldom put my real finds on the line, as I imagine that you also do not. Nonetheless, it is one of the most useful and worthwhile functions of ISG, although might I suggest that it might be better that you give out contact details by PM rather than publicly, so that the poor dear doesn’t get inundated by lurkers and non-serious pervies. Just a thought although each to his own.
Curious how you find that time – are you Dr Who and have your own Tardis? A few days ago you appeared to be in Pattaya, recommending your ISG finds. Now you seem to be in Cebu, or is it Angeles? You sure do get around … are you a professional mongerator?
Not enough photo’s though;).
Yesterday I met a 32 year old widow that I found through a classified ad. She was not much to look at but gagging for it so I filled all three holes for her (yes, you read right …three!!, the third was a surprise for me but she was up for it). The things we do to keep the passionate womankind of the Philippine happy:).
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Thanks for the reply GL. And CS's kind words directed toward you reminded me -- were you the one who gave me the head's up on Madonna? We exchanged a few messages, but she was in Manila when I was in Cebu. Never got to meet her. X
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Madonna
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the reply GL. And CS's kind words directed toward you reminded me -- were you the one who gave me the head's up on Madonna? We exchanged a few messages, but she was in Manila when I was in Cebu. Never got to meet her. X[/QUOTE]
Yes I was the one who introduced Madonna. She got alot of interest and then I believe got married to the chap who runs Stripes bar in Cebu. I guess time will tell whether she has really fallen on her feet or not, she had a few pretty serious high end suitors from the US, but I think the majority of these girls lie to close the deal if someone offers marriage and stability. When I met her she waqs living in Catmon with her aged mum in a little hut and hadn't had any luck at all through the dating sites.
Interestingly I had a 18 year old American girl today. Not a typical American girl admittedly 40kg and 4ft 11in. I had invited around another 18 year old DIA girl who had paniced when I emerged from the showed and called in reinforcements in the petite shape of her friend who turned out to be born in Guam 1/4 American with a US Passport. She is well spoken with a nice accent but appears to come from a relatively rough part of town which is a bit incongruous. Given the lack of visa issues, I suspect that she will become an interesting prospect for someone in due course. She has a rather beautiful face.
CS yes my visa ran out in Thailand so decided to head to Cebu but no direct flights any more so stayed a few in AC. In general I prefer to travel around than stick in one place too long.
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From hey8sme_janica from zamboanga----
i want to hve a friend here in DIA ..............not for having a friend that verry bastos and most of all.
fucker..........coz i know.................many of the boys are..........looking for sex only.............
so if you are a fucker dont ever............massage me coz i dont like you.ok............
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Chat Sites Can Rat Out the Little Scammers
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]so if you are a fucker [/QUOTE]
Haha maybe she is looking for a priest?
I was chatting up this one sweet, innocent little cutie way out in Bislig Mindanao. Sent a txt to her auntie, "can sweetie come chat?", and I keep getting this, "sorry I don't have enough money to go to cafe". Hmm ok, no prob.
Then I look at her Cherry Blossoms profile, it shows date last active? Little scammer is online all the time! haha Got to remember to use that Yahoo invisible detector someone posted a while back.
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[QUOTE=Jambo]Haha maybe she is looking for a priest?
I was chatting up this one sweet, innocent little cutie way out in Bislig Mindanao. Sent a txt to her auntie, "can sweetie come chat?", and I keep getting this, "sorry I don't have enough money to go to cafe". Hmm ok, no prob.
Then I look at her Cherry Blossoms profile, it shows date last active? Little scammer is online all the time! haha Got to remember to use that Yahoo invisible detector someone posted a while back.[/QUOTE]Been using it for a while.. always funny when you suprise the girls by sendnig them an sms saying " Hi I see you are online ".... [url]http://www.ydetector.com/[/url]
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Questions and answers from a girl on DIA-
kclici0us from wouldnt you like to know?
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=ef865ca1-d1d3-494d-b33c-018e2493e300[/url]
1. Hair Color - Doesn't matter
2. Eye Color - idc
3. Height - 5'9" and up.
4. Six Pack - YEA
5. Long/Short Hair - Short
6. Glasses - NOPE
7. Piercings - Nope
8. Eyebrows - NOT big -n- ickky
9. Big/LiL Butt - Doesn't matter as long as it isnt TOO big
10. Chest Hair - No WaY
11. Buff or Skinny - Buff not Fat
12. Straighh teeth, gap, or braces - Straight
13. Funni or Serious - Funny
14. Party or Stay at home - BOTH
15. Should he hav a best friend - evry1 needs a best friend
16. Should he hav a lot of girl friends - dont care
17. Outgoing or Shy - OUTGOING
18. Sarcastic or Sincere - BOTH
19. Should he love his mom - sure
20. Should he go w/ tha chick flicks: the ones i like w/ me.
21. Smoker - no!
22. Drink - occasionally but not a heavy drinker
23. Would he swear - once in a while not all the time though.
24. Would he pay for Dates - YEAH.
25. Where we would go for fun - any place that is fun.
26. Would he bring flowers - yeah i love flowers.
27. Would he lay under the stars - dont care
28. Would he hang out with u and ur friends - YEAH he better be able to get along with my friends
29. Soccer - no
30. Baseball - no
31. Basketball - HELL YEA!
32. Football - YEA
33. Surf - yessss.
34. Skateboard - no
35. Snowboard - definitely
36. Sing - yes
37. Play guitar - sure
38. Play piano - yea
39. Play Drums - YEA
40. Clean his room - big YES.
41. Use the word dude - NO
42. Use the word tight - NO
43. Watch the sun come up with you - if he wants
44. What Kind of Car - Doesnt matter as long as itz a nice one
45. Name - ANY NAME as long as it isnt Dick or w/e...nothing bad or weird.
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]45. Name - ANY NAME as long as it isnt Dick or w/e...nothing bad or weird.[/QUOTE]
Aw man, I really like calling a girl dirty names while I'm doing it. Man, and I was so in there until that haha!
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DIA girl is wild!
I have posted a few times in the general section but not here yet. I am one of the VERY few here who is looking for a long term possibly marraige. Please don't smack me in the head!
Anyways, I have been scanning the DIA website now for a few weeks and only sending a few select girls who interest me a quick note. Most get back to me and are anxious to talk and get things going immediately and usually it isn't long before I get the questions about sending them something to help support them! Well once that happens I immediately bounce them. The other day I get a unsolicited email from a girl who is upset at me for my profile and attacks me about how we "Westerners" think all filipina's are prostitutes and *****s! I never sent her mail or anything and to be truthful my profile does not really lead you to believe that is what I am looking for. Which I am not.
So after several back and forth emails over a few days, she acknoweldges that she misunderstood my profile. I get her YM address and we start chatting. BTW, this girl is very pretty, single no kids and has a job so no mention of money has come up at all. Well over the next few days we talk each day on YM and this girl really starts to loosen up with me. She lets it out that she has a GF who she has loved since 15 but now she wants a man in her life but asks me how I would feel if we were together and she wanted to share with her friend. She emails me photos of her friend and her both are very pretty girls. One is 22 the other is 24 and while she says she is not a lesbian she does say that she enjoys her friend very much too. And was afraid that I might not be accepting of her friendship and love for her friend!
At this point I am secretly jumping for joy! This is every mans dream, a woman who is open with sex and relationships with other woman! She even said that she looks at other woman all the time and wonders how they would be in bed, but is too shy to go for them. So now we are to the point of figuring out how to move things along and see if this thing will work between us. I told her upfront that it will be a long time before I was ready to marry, but would be open to a long term relationship if she was the right one and she was fine with that.
So I guess either I am being dupped here and being setup for something or I have struck it rich. Guess time will tell!
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Congrats Sellmerch1. Sounds like a lot of fun either way.
Just be careful and you should be fine.
Personally it sounds too good to be true but who cares. Plz upload pics if possible.
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[QUOTE=Sellmerch1]So I guess either I am being duped here and being setup for something or I have struck it rich. Guess time will tell![/QUOTE]Hmmmmmm I would be going VERY cautiously with this one. My antennae tell me that she is setting you up for something but as you say, time will tell.
To repeat, if ever you decide to meet her and her friend in person, do so in a public place (like a mall coffee shop) and have a VERY thorough interview/discussion with them both. Watch out for the body language between them. It seems funny how she progressed from giving you heaps for contacting Pinays to sharing such intimacies with you.
You also, of course, might have hit the jackpot, but be careful until you find out.
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Dia L B F M
Nice gal, nice rack if anyone wants to pursue. I have not pursued.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=799f4bde-4747-4ff9-811e-f49ec2cde36a[/url]
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Her Pic
Ok so here is her pic for you guys who are more visual! I think sh is a real cute girl!
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I fully agree with you and am going into this with my eyes wide open and my small head in check! I expect that this is some form of scam or fishy thing going on! To me she seemed way too willing to give out this type of informtion so readily.
I am game though for playing along and seeing where it all goes. If a meeting does take place it will most definately take place on my terms not theres. I have both of there regular myspace and facebook acounts along with there friendster accounts for both. She gave me the myspace and with a bit of research I was able to find the others and nothing on any of those sites seem to be out of the ordinary and all the photos on all those sites seem to clarify that they spend alot of time together as most the pictures are of them together.
I will be very cautious with this though! If we get to the point of a meeting I will insist they both meet me in a nice public place, then in my hotel room for a sample of whats ahead. I am in no rush to find my long term lady, but I guess I need to start somewhere.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Hmmmmmm I would be going VERY cautiously with this one. My antennae tell me that she is setting you up for something but as you say, time will tell.
To repeat, if ever you decide to meet her and her friend in person, do so in a public place (like a mall coffee shop) and have a VERY thorough interview/discussion with them both. Watch out for the body language between them. It seems funny how she progressed from giving you heaps for contacting Pinays to sharing such intimacies with you.
You also, of course, might have hit the jackpot, but be careful until you find out.[/QUOTE]
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BTW, the photo is real as I have chatted on CAM with her and she looks exactly like photo!
[QUOTE=Sellmerch1]Ok so here is her pic for you guys who are more visual! I think sh is a real cute girl![/QUOTE]
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Struck it rich LOL
[QUOTE=Sellmerch1]I have posted a few times in the general section but not here yet. I am one of the VERY few here who is looking for a long term possibly marraige. Please don't smack me in the head!
Anyways, I have been scanning the DIA website now for a few weeks and only sending a few select girls who interest me a quick note. Most get back to me and are anxious to talk and get things going immediately and usually it isn't long before I get the questions about sending them something to help support them! Well once that happens I immediately bounce them. The other day I get a unsolicited email from a girl who is upset at me for my profile and attacks me about how we "Westerners" think all filipina's are prostitutes and *****s! I never sent her mail or anything and to be truthful my profile does not really lead you to believe that is what I am looking for. Which I am not.
So after several back and forth emails over a few days, she acknoweldges that she misunderstood my profile. I get her YM address and we start chatting. BTW, this girl is very pretty, single no kids and has a job so no mention of money has come up at all. Well over the next few days we talk each day on YM and this girl really starts to loosen up with me. She lets it out that she has a GF who she has loved since 15 but now she wants a man in her life but asks me how I would feel if we were together and she wanted to share with her friend. She emails me photos of her friend and her both are very pretty girls. One is 22 the other is 24 and while she says she is not a lesbian she does say that she enjoys her friend very much too. And was afraid that I might not be accepting of her friendship and love for her friend!
At this point I am secretly jumping for joy! This is every mans dream, a woman who is open with sex and relationships with other woman! She even said that she looks at other woman all the time and wonders how they would be in bed, but is too shy to go for them. So now we are to the point of figuring out how to move things along and see if this thing will work between us. I told her upfront that it will be a long time before I was ready to marry, but would be open to a long term relationship if she was the right one and she was fine with that.
So I guess either I am being dupped here and being setup for something or I have struck it rich. Guess time will tell!
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You would have to be a moron to marry this slit
You know I got to laugh at the guys who marry prostitiutes, bisexual women and bimbos they get some good sex at first, but are too fuking stupid to realize what keeps a good marriage together
Use you head man, and stop thinking like a pea brain
You fuck these slits you don't marry them
If you get married find a pretty, nice, good morals girl, with a really good family
Start using common sense.
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Menage a Trois
Sellmerch,
I wouldn't be put off by the comments of Bill1963. He's expressing his opinion, but I wonder about his language and the way he puts down other human beings. Given his vocabulary, I wouldn't pay him any mind.
My advice is to find out what's behind it. It really sounds interesting and you might find a wonderful menage a trois. Do, however, proceed with caution. She's very pretty.
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[QUOTE=Canyon]Sellmerch,
I wouldn't be put off by the comments of Bill1963. He's expressing his opinion, but I wonder about his language and the way he puts down other human beings. Given his vocabulary, I wouldn't pay him any mind.
My advice is to find out what's behind it. It really sounds interesting and you might find a wonderful menage a trois. Do, however, proceed with caution. She's very pretty.[/QUOTE]
I agree with Canyon. There is nothing in the description you have given so far to suggest this girl is not an honest, decent girl with high morals. Of course its early days and you haven't even met her yet so who knows.
Personally I always try to go around with bi girls or girls who are open to threesomes in the phils. it makes life far more interesting than otherwise. I find that the majority of Phils girls are initially appalled by the idesa then if they are persuaded to try quickly become very much into it. That's certainly the pattern with the girl i am with now who only 5 days ago was hiding in the CR when one of my female friends wanted to lick her boobs. Now she is constantly on the hunt for new girls for us to try together. it is much easier for her to hit on girls in the street or mall than I usually within a few mins she has got their cell number then we can start suggestive texts.
I think the guys who marry a phil girl who is jealous about you seeing any other girls are just signing up for a lifetime of deceipt and cheating and probably ultimate expensive divorce.
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Wow Bill.
Sounds like you really know how to treat those little ladies there! That is why we Westerners get our bad name there! While I do appreciate your view on things there I do not agree with them.
[QUOTE=Bill1963]Jesus man are you kidding
You would have to be a moron to marry this slit
You know I got to laugh at the guys who marry prostitiutes, bisexual women and bimbos they get some good sex at first, but are too fuking stupid to realize what keeps a good marriage together
Use you head man, and stop thinking like a pea brain
You fuck these slits you don't marry them
If you get married find a pretty, nice, good morals girl, with a really good family
Start using common sense.[/QUOTE]
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While I am intrigued by my converstaions with this girl, they are only converstaions at this point. I am not some young and dumb horn toad who thinks all is right with this. Time will tell and when I am there I will attempt a meeting with these tow to try and iron out what is real and what is not. If it happens to be a game then so be it.
Good Luck guys and thanks.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I agree with Canyon. There is nothing in the description you have given so far to suggest this girl is not an honest, decent girl with high morals. Of course its early days and you haven't even met her yet so who knows.
Personally I always try to go around with bi girls or girls who are open to threesomes in the phils. it makes life far more interesting than otherwise. I find that the majority of Phils girls are initially appalled by the idesa then if they are persuaded to try quickly become very much into it. That's certainly the pattern with the girl i am with now who only 5 days ago was hiding in the CR when one of my female friends wanted to lick her boobs. Now she is constantly on the hunt for new girls for us to try together. it is much easier for her to hit on girls in the street or mall than I usually within a few mins she has got their cell number then we can start suggestive texts.
I think the guys who marry a phil girl who is jealous about you seeing any other girls are just signing up for a lifetime of deceipt and cheating and probably ultimate expensive divorce.[/QUOTE]
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You Are The Only One
Well, what an adventure is DIA. Based on the advice and experience of those who have gone before, I adopted a two prong approach to this free Filipina dating site. Basically I created two profiles. The first I call Alterboy; the second Sexybeast. Alterboy is the decent, sincere white-bread LTR/marriage minded sort. Sexybeast is up-front about his desire for a until-fuck-do-us-part, I will be generous to nice girls for sex, short-term only relationship.
It has been fascinating.
I began with Alterboy a few weeks ago. Even without a pic in the profile at first he generated tons of interest from young attractive ladies in the 18-25 demographic, his target. He approached and responded only to ladies who themselves only had “good girl” profiles.
The girls would readily respond to his messages and very many would initiate messages themselves if they noticed he had visited their profiles but had not left a message. After chatting with scores of girls, those who did not fall off the line themselves or be rejected by Alterboy outright for one reason or another, fell into two main camps. There were those who made it fairly clear that they needed support and would be Alterboy’s lover when he came though they hoped for more, and those who were playing the role of the good girl virginal traditional Filipina girl whose only desire was for a good foreign man for marriage because all those bad Filipino boys/men are nothing but players and drunkards.
After a shorter or longer period of chatting with a girl from either group, each and every one of them would indicate that Alterboy was or was becoming “their only one.” Though this was belied by the fact that casual observance of yahoo messenger or DIA activity on their part usually indicated much time spent on the internet chatting up other guys.
Whereas Alterboy spent an inordinate amount of time talking to them about their life—their family, their work, their schooling, their likes and dislikes, what they were looking for or not looking for in a man, ad nausea—Sexybeast went right for the Jugular. His profile stated up front that he was looking for short-term love in return for generosity. In his first chat he verified they had read his profile and new exactly what he wanted. He got their agreement that they would entertain him in his hotel room.
In only a couple of days Sexybeast had nearly a dozen hot young women fully on board with his program. Though Sexybeast was expecting to keep these girls in the virtual rolodex until he had actual use for them, a surprising number of these girls indicated they hoped they could chat with him regularly until he came to the phils, and thought they knew exactly what he wanted and that they would give it to him, they hoped that they and Sexybeast would remain friends afterwards and that Sexybeast consider them girlfriend/wife material!
Alterboy, however was not after volume, he was after The One. His life mate. There were so many possibilities but he was selective. He was judicious and careful. He whittled down all the possible mates he was finding down to two that seemed to have the requisite beauty, intelligence, loyalty, sincerity, and moral fiber.
Whereas the “you are the only one” declarations of all the other girls rang hollow, with these two their sincerity was touching and real. Their internet activity appeared reasonable. They were fun and charming to chat with. They never asked for money or gifts. Their life goals and ambitions meshed quite well with those of Alterboy. He would meet both of course in person, but if both turned out as wonderful as they so obviously were which one to choose would turn out to be quite the dilemma.
To help with this, and to possibly save Alterboy from himself, I decided to enlist Sexybeast in Alterboy’s selection process. Sexybeast from his unique DIA profile sent both of these paragons of the marriageable Filipina his standard approach message praising their beauty and entreating them to read his profile and get back to him. Both of them did! Enthusiastically! Despite their obvious love and devotion to Alterboy (which oddly enough, I believe was genuine), both of these girls wanted to fuck Sexybeast for his money.
The lesson: Filipinas are beautiful, charming, and interesting creatures; however, just about every single one of them will fuck around until they have the security of that ring on their finger, no matter what you think. They approach love and marriage just like the major airlines just coming off a passenger down-cycle—no matter what they are going to overbook the marriage flight until they have the thing locked down. Once on board, they will probably fly you to where you want to go, but until that time they cannot risk their future and security with potentially empty promises.
Because of this experience, I now believe, that if you are using and internet dating sites to find a wholesome Filipina for marriage your best bet is to hit them up with one profile for P4P first, may a few times, and then approach the ones that do not respond with your nice guy profile. After a period of courtship, retest them or investigate them. Trust, but verify, then trust but verify again.
Just bear in mind guys, no matter what, in all likelyhood when they tell you "you are the only one" they really mean, "I wish you were the only one."
I will be in Cebu in a couple of months, I’ll post my in-person experiences once I have the pleasure of having them.
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Just get here
[QUOTE=Sellmerch1]While I am intrigued by my converstaions with this girl, they are only converstaions at this point. I am not some young and dumb horn toad who thinks all is right with this. Time will tell and when I am there I will attempt a meeting with these tow to try and iron out what is real and what is not. If it happens to be a game then so be it.
Good Luck guys and thanks.[/QUOTE]
I think one needs to be honest and realistic and realise that 95% of the internet conversations one has with PI girls whilst not in the country is a form of masturbation. Guys feeling lonely in western countries where no girls under 35 are willing to even acknowledge him and 100 messsages on dating sites receive 2 replies from fat 45 year olds and another 4 from glamorous Russian ladies living in Siberia. Suddely guys discover a site such as DIA where they can get a 50% response from an unlimited number of 18-30 cuties.
However the "due diligence" that people imagine that they are doing for months or years is in reality of fairly limited value first because in many cases guys dont actually meet more than 1 or 2 of the girls they have been chatting to, instead falling for the hotel receptionist, a friend of someone they met on the plane etc etc.
In most cases its REALLY difficult to get an idea of how the girl will be through her profile and its only when u get here and actually meet her in person that you get a feel for how it will be in reality.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]in many cases guys dont actually meet more than 1 or 2 of the girls they have been chatting to[/QUOTE]
Not surprisingly majority of the girls I meet have NEVER hooked up with a guy they chatted with until me, and they are surprised I actually do transit and work in Manila.
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nice experiment
[QUOTE=Riverman]Well, what an adventure is DIA. Based on the advice and experience of those who have gone before, I adopted a two prong approach to this free Filipina dating site. Basically I created two profiles. The first I call Alterboy; the second Sexybeast. Alterboy is the decent, sincere white-bread LTR/marriage minded sort. Sexybeast is up-front about his desire for a until-fuck-do-us-part, I will be generous to nice girls for sex, short-term only relationship.
It has been fascinating.
I began with Alterboy a few weeks ago. Even without a pic in the profile at first he generated tons of interest from young attractive ladies in the 18-25 demographic, his target. He approached and responded only to ladies who themselves only had “good girl” profiles.
The girls would readily respond to his messages and very many would initiate messages themselves if they noticed he had visited their profiles but had not left a message. After chatting with scores of girls, those who did not fall off the line themselves or be rejected by Alterboy outright for one reason or another, fell into two main camps. There were those who made it fairly clear that they needed support and would be Alterboy’s lover when he came though they hoped for more, and those who were playing the role of the good girl virginal traditional Filipina girl whose only desire was for a good foreign man for marriage because all those bad Filipino boys/men are nothing but players and drunkards.
After a shorter or longer period of chatting with a girl from either group, each and every one of them would indicate that Alterboy was or was becoming “their only one.” Though this was belied by the fact that casual observance of yahoo messenger or DIA activity on their part usually indicated much time spent on the internet chatting up other guys.
Whereas Alterboy spent an inordinate amount of time talking to them about their life—their family, their work, their schooling, their likes and dislikes, what they were looking for or not looking for in a man, ad nausea—Sexybeast went right for the Jugular. His profile stated up front that he was looking for short-term love in return for generosity. In his first chat he verified they had read his profile and new exactly what he wanted. He got their agreement that they would entertain him in his hotel room.
In only a couple of days Sexybeast had nearly a dozen hot young women fully on board with his program. Though Sexybeast was expecting to keep these girls in the virtual rolodex until he had actual use for them, a surprising number of these girls indicated they hoped they could chat with him regularly until he came to the phils, and thought they knew exactly what he wanted and that they would give it to him, they hoped that they and Sexybeast would remain friends afterwards and that Sexybeast consider them girlfriend/wife material!
Alterboy, however was not after volume, he was after The One. His life mate. There were so many possibilities but he was selective. He was judicious and careful. He whittled down all the possible mates he was finding down to two that seemed to have the requisite beauty, intelligence, loyalty, sincerity, and moral fiber.
Whereas the “you are the only one” declarations of all the other girls rang hollow, with these two their sincerity was touching and real. Their internet activity appeared reasonable. They were fun and charming to chat with. They never asked for money or gifts. Their life goals and ambitions meshed quite well with those of Alterboy. He would meet both of course in person, but if both turned out as wonderful as they so obviously were which one to choose would turn out to be quite the dilemma.
To help with this, and to possibly save Alterboy from himself, I decided to enlist Sexybeast in Alterboy’s selection process. Sexybeast from his unique DIA profile sent both of these paragons of the marriageable Filipina his standard approach message praising their beauty and entreating them to read his profile and get back to him. Both of them did! Enthusiastically! Despite their obvious love and devotion to Alterboy (which oddly enough, I believe was genuine), both of these girls wanted to fuck Sexybeast for his money.
The lesson: Filipinas are beautiful, charming, and interesting creatures; however, just about every single one of them will fuck around until they have the security of that ring on their finger, no matter what you think. They approach love and marriage just like the major airlines just coming off a passenger down-cycle—no matter what they are going to overbook the marriage flight until they have the thing locked down. Once on board, they will probably fly you to where you want to go, but until that time they cannot risk their future and security with potentially empty promises.
Because of this experience, I now believe, that if you are using and internet dating sites to find a wholesome Filipina for marriage your best bet is to hit them up with one profile for P4P first, may a few times, and then approach the ones that do not respond with your nice guy profile. After a period of courtship, retest them or investigate them. Trust, but verify, then trust but verify again.
Just bear in mind guys, no matter what, in all likelyhood when they tell you "you are the only one" they really mean, "I wish you were the only one."
I will be in Cebu in a couple of months, I’ll post my in-person experiences once I have the pleasure of having them.
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A very useful experiment and cautionary message to those who are seeking a Goodie 2 Shoes type wife on DIA or other Phils dating sites. In defence of the dishonesty of Filipinas I think the vast majority of guys on DIA are equally dishonest about their intentions, their plans to come to the Phils, the number of girls they are chatting to etc. Many of the girls i hang out with like to do their DIA/Tagged/Friendster stuff in my room (I carry a netbook as a backup to my regular laptop which I allow them to use - which increases the desire of girls to hang around and get fucked repeatedly considerably).
Some of the hard core guys are very nasty pieces of work IMHO
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All I can say is WOW. An interesting strategy, and obviously a well written essay. Thanks for the post. X
[QUOTE=Riverman]Well, what an adventure is DIA. Based on the advice and experience of those who have gone before, I adopted a two prong approach to this free Filipina dating site.
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Just bear in mind guys, no matter what, in all likelihood when they tell you "you are the only one" they really mean, "I wish you were the only one."
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Friends or Girlfriends
The girl I am hanging out with at the moment has told me that if I want casual fun in the phils i had better say that I was looking for an open minded friend rather than a girlfriend. The point being that a "girlfriend" here in the Phils is seen as a pretty serious exclusive relationship, meet the parents provide financial support etc. Whereas "friends" includes what we might call remunerated fuck buddies. However she does say that "open minded " has several meanings not just sexually open minded. She suggests something like "who can make it happy to me" which apparently is unambiguous.
for the guys experimenting with "bad boy" profiles. My advice would be to be "frank" but also NOT CRUDE, there are loads of really nice girls who will give you no strings remunerated sex but who just delete any of the many messages talking crudely and disrespectfully.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]The girl I am hanging out with at the moment has told me that if I want casual fun in the phils I had better say that I was looking for an open minded friend rather than a girlfriend. The point being that a "girlfriend" here in the Phils is seen as a pretty serious exclusive relationship, meet the parents provide financial support etc. Whereas "friends" includes what we might call remunerated fuck buddies. However she does say that "open minded " has several meanings not just sexually open minded. She suggests something like "who can make it happy to me" which apparently is unambiguous.
For the guys experimenting with "bad boy" profiles. My advice would be to be "frank" but also NOT CRUDE, there are loads of really nice girls who will give you no strings remunerated sex but who just delete any of the many messages talking crudely and disrespectfully.[/QUOTE]Useful peace of information. Shall implement it.
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Where to find true love...
[QUOTE=Riverman]Well, what an adventure is DIA[/QUOTE]Thank you for that illuminative and genuinely awesome study. You obviously have put a lot of work and fun into it.
However, I believe it's generally a systemic problem expecting to find "true love" either in the appropriate bars or dating websites.
We are all aware of the conjectural reason why good looking young girls in the Philippines desperately try to find guys from the West while possibly compromising with regards to age-gap, looks and wealth. Are we?
I have some very beautiful friends, real friends among Filipinas. They date or married local guys (carefully selected from among the few who aren't morons) even though they have more access to foreigners than any of the girls on the dating sites, Westeners that are really in the country. In fact they can have a hard time fighting off those dudes from the US or Europe, who arrogantly generalize the complete population of Filipinas as "available". Those girls have decent jobs, coming from well-off families (prerequisite for a good education and therefore for a good job) and you won't find any of them in those places, neither virtual nor real.
These are two different worlds and you'll only get the fruits of the basket you are searching in.
The society of the Philippines is highly segregated. If someone must exploit the relative poverty of the majority, he shouldn't fool himself about it. Being accepted by a girl from the minority who doesn't "need" a foreigner (I'm not talking about girls from rich families only, just independance and relative financial stability) will take at least as much effort as finding a girl "at home", possibly more, since many of those are more conservative, fear the cultural gap and, of course, are totally aware of the shitty reputation most Western visitors to the Philippines really work hard on.
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simple
I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?
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Insights into Pilipino psyche
Greg -- What a wonderful message. Kudos.
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Simple
[QUOTE=Superman06]I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?[/QUOTE]
Simple is a VERY common self description for girls in the Phils. I just consulted the girl I am hanging out with and she says in the context of a girl it means she is a natural beauty who doesn't use makeup, go to expensive hair stylist or as she puts it - "puts medicine in her hair". A Simple girl can ride around in a jeepney not call a taxi and doesn't need to stay in a flash hotel. It doesnt have the "simple minded" connotations we have in the west. A simple girl does not have academic or social pretensions.
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"Simple" Simply Explained
[QUOTE=Superman06]I was curious about the term "simple". I mostly see it in very short personal descriptions. Is it a euphemism for something else?[/QUOTE]
When reading Filipina profiles treat simple = modest
Westerners see simple = simpleton. But it is wrong to take that meaning in the Phils.
Filipinas sometimes say they are simple but this means a simple modest lifestyle. It often is a signal that she is from a poor family without many of the necessities and luxuries we take for granted in the western world.
KongKing
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Simple vs Social
Thought I would give further feedback on the "simple" thing. My Filipina friend seems to divide girls into 3 camps Simple, social and dirty.
The "social" girl is the type of girl who hangs around in Resto-bars, eats at Jollybees or pizza, wears sunglasses, spends alot of time fixing her hair and manicuring her nails. Unless she is from a good family or (exceptionally if she is young) has a good job she needs to finance this lifestyle through men. Ideally someone who will "sponsor" her, ie someone who is foolish enough to send her money to "pay for her education" blah blah, or from a long term boy friend or from short term stuff. In many cases these girls are college girls and can be great fun if they arent too fixated on the social climbing.
The "simple" girl is more likely to eat vegetables ant a cheap local restaurant and a trip to Jollybees is regarded as something of a treat. By and large these girls are more interested in longer term relationships, though can be talked into something shorter term in some cases.
The "dirty" girls are the ones wandering around looking for business. The poorer ones are literally rather dirty, some of them can probably be taken for 200-300P. Personally i would steer clear of this type.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Thought I would give further feedback on the "simple" thing. My Filipina friend seems to divide girls into 3 camps Simple, social and dirty.
The "social" girl is the type of girl who hangs around in Resto-bars, eats at Jollybees or pizza, wears sunglasses, spends alot of time fixing her hair and manicuring her nails. Unless she is from a good family or (exceptionally if she is young) has a good job she needs to finance this lifestyle through men. Ideally someone who will "sponsor" her, ie someone who is foolish enough to send her money to "pay for her education" blah blah, or from a long term boy friend or from short term stuff. In many cases these girls are college girls and can be great fun if they arent too fixated on the social climbing.
The "simple" girl is more likely to eat vegetables ant a cheap local restaurant and a trip to Jollybees is regarded as something of a treat. By and large these girls are more interested in longer term relationships, though can be talked into something shorter term in some cases.
The "dirty" girls are the ones wandering around looking for business. The poorer ones are literally rather dirty, some of them can probably be taken for 200-300P. Personally i would steer clear of this type.[/QUOTE]
Just spent 10 days with a manila girl I found on Date In Asia. First time around 3 days and a week in Angeles without her and a week with her again in Manila. Why?
To start with i did not expect much. She was a average young girl with a child. Said she had a job but probably turned out to be a lie. Said she lives in house owned by her parents and lives alone but when I showed interest in seeing the place she did not want to take me. Was constantly getting texts from god knows who.
Good points with her is she is a certified nymphette and was always ready for sex whenever. All I needed was good sex from her and she did not dissappoint me. Cost wise all I gave her was 5000 pesos she said she needed to buy things. For 7 days of unlimited sex it was worth it. Foodwise she was quite happy with jollibee although I did take her to few good restaurents.
Bad points are I do not know her background, Her means of support without a job, There was no regular conversation which is interesting. These things did bother me because other than sex there was no common attraction.
It is possible she did not care because she knows I will not be her BF or means of support.
I consider her a good , lonely girl wanting to meet foreigners and she did say I was her first foreigner. Overall it was a good experience compared to bargirls.
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Cute of the Year award
Ok, the girl needs her next bf to buy her a hairbrush, but this little lady stands out as a Cutie of the Year contender
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=24f93e28-416c-466b-9846-60d8bea3a178[/url] cutie vangie from makati
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How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.
I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.
Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.
Humm this is not good.
There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.
The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.
And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.
Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.
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The Case of the Missing Nipple
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=42860f57-e5bf-483d-a613-f25d3ec9e8e3[/url]
Isla Heart from Manila
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ok, the girl needs her next bf to buy her a hairbrush, but this little lady stands out as a Cutie of the Year contender
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=24f93e28-416c-466b-9846-60d8bea3a178[/url] cutie vangie from makati[/QUOTE]
And I'm sure her messages just went through the roof ;)
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DIA Strategy
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.
I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.
Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.
Humm this is not good.
There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.
The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.
And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.
Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.[/QUOTE]
1 Write a profile being frank about what you are looking for but not being crude.
2 Decide where in phils you want to go and concentrate on girls in that town or max an hour or two away. Dont plan on meeting 10 different girls in different cities and spend all your time flying around.
3 Write an intro message and put it in notepad then copy and paste. Key points - ethnicity if you are a white guy mention it most of the girls just delete any messages from Philipinos, Arabs, Pakistanis etc The firmer you can be on planned trip where you will go and what dates the better as many guys are just day dreaming about going to the phils or thinking about going there "sometime next year" Say something like im looking for an open minded, passionate girl aged 18-25, without a baby, willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted ) at my hotel. Ask for her YM (yahoo messenger ID and cell no. Finish of with something along the lines of Sorry for such a frank message, but I dont want to waste your time if you are looking for something different. I am looking for a real girl, not a shemale/ladyboy (unless you are of course). You prob dont have to mention anythinmg about money at this stage, with such a message girls willassume they are can expect to be compensated.
4 you used to be able to copy and paste the same message to many girls, DIA have now stoped this so you may need a introductory hi / im coming to phils soon etc and then follow up respondees with your cut and paste message
5 Do a search according to age and location, send an intro message to anyone you fancy. I tend to avoid obvious model photos and clear ladyboys. Dont pay much attention to whether the girls are supposedly looking for a Mr right or serious relationship etc they will all put that as its their main aim but many will be up for short term fun in any case.
If you are targeted open minded cities such as Manila, Cebu or Angeles you will prob get a 50% response, maybe 25% in the provinces.
6 Once you have the girls YM just add thenm and nexttime you are online have a quick chat to establish whether she understand s what you want where exactly she lives etc etc. Establish some sort of methodology for nameing the girls in YM using the nick name function of u will end up with 4 cuteie roses and not know who is who
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Hmmmmmm I would be going VERY cautiously with this one. My antennae tell me that she is setting you up for something but as you say, time will tell.
To repeat, if ever you decide to meet her and her friend in person, do so in a public place (like a mall coffee shop) and have a VERY thorough interview/discussion with them both. Watch out for the body language between them. It seems funny how she progressed from giving you heaps for contacting Pinays to sharing such intimacies with you.
You also, of course, might have hit the jackpot, but be careful until you find out.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of an Indonesian girl I meet on DIA. She had just been deceived by her best friend and the belgian bf she had been talking to for a while. I talked to her on cam and she started crying. After about an hour of crying she wiped the tears away and gave me a nice dance with the music on. Clothes on and all.
And it continued like that.
It was like taken out of a manual of how to create rapport and even a relationship FAST. Relationships build through common experiences and bad experiences with a common other 'villain' works well. She ran through most of the steps on a couple of hours.
Just be careful mate.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]. Say something like I'm looking for an open minded, passionate girl aged 18-25, without a baby, willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted) at my hotel. Ask for her YM (yahoo messenger ID and cell no. Finish of with something along the lines of Sorry for such a frank message, but I don't want to waste your time if you are looking for something different. I am looking for a real girl, not a shemale/ladyboy (unless you are of course)..[/QUOTE]Excellent post Greg.
Just a couple of general points in response:
(1) I put up a relatively frank note like you suggested and someone must have read it and complained about it (reported me!). Next thing I know I was temporarily suspended and asked to modify my message so I guess this is always a risk
(2) The small-scale research project reported here that used 2 IDs is not permitted by DIA if you use the same computer with the same IP number. The system will block you from having 2 IDs and they will warn you that you will be banned.
You need to use a different computer (my experience anyway. Maybe there is a way around it?)
I totally agree with ALL of your suggestions. My experience is the same.
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You already have some good advice from GL. A system to keep track of them all is one of the hardest things. I used to download the pic but I think DIA has started to block that. There is software that will do a "print screen".
Online -- At some point I say "friends" or "friends first". I don't spend a lot of time chatting back and forth. After a few exchanges I ask for email and phone (as GL suggested).
I usually don't hint at an overnighter. In fact, a lot of my online successes were in the afternoon after lunch and then the gal went home in the evening. If the gal lives with her family she might have to make some special arrangements in order to stay overnight.
When I'm finally in country they might say, "oh, you forgot me." My reply is that, "no, I just was very busy finishing my work so that my boss would let me travel!"
Later when I start some light touch testing, they'll say, "oh, I thought you said friends?". I might respond with a sly smile and say, "yes", and then move away from her. Or I might say, "but I like you --- a little." Most Filipinas respond well to some kidding or teasing. Be warned though -- they can dish it out pretty well too.
I guess there is a different strategy for everyone on this list, so you have to work out what is easy for you and what fits your personality.
Oh, and remember -- you are NOT a sex tourist. You are going to the Philippines to enjoy the culture, the beach, the warm weather...and of course you want to meet some of the local people.
Have fun, X
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]How should one proceed to pick the girls he wants to talk to on DIA.
I'm a DIA virgin, never met a girl from there.
Point is, the few girls I spoke with told me they want to meet anything but a sex tourist.
Humm this is not good.
There are two things which seems tricky to introduce when discussing with the ladies before meeting them.
The idea that you are here for a good time, that you'll respect her, treat her nicely as a real GF but can't promise or commit to anything.
And the idea you are willing to compensate her for the time spent with you.
Not sure how to pick girls, and proceed with prelinimary talks.[/QUOTE]
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Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.
Four of the ladies I met was to begin with rather shy was up for friendship, as in having coffee or lunch. They all lived with their families and ALL said that their mother/father was strict with them and that they had a curfew to obey.
After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.
So - we met in Harrison Mall and Mall of Asia about 10-11AM and took a taxi back to my hotel where they stayed until about 7pm.
The evenings I was not too exhausted, I went out to party with some local friends, but back early so I could meet the next friend the next morning. And - surprisingly, all but one met up at agreed time. The one that was late, was due to heavy rain.
So - essense of my experience is that ladies may not be willing to stay with you overnight, but willing to meet and fcuk during daytime.
[QUOTE=GregLondon] ...willing to stay with me overnight (if wanted ) at my hotel... [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Marconista]Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.[/QUOTE]Did you give them money?
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[QUOTE=Marconista]After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.[/QUOTE]I think there must be a " How a Filipina gets to deal with foreigners " website where they discuss how to handle us.
Because for sure, they have all read and totally learnt the mantra of " Tell him you are the first foreigner you have met".
I've heard that line many many many times and within ten minutes of meeting were on our way to a motel.
What I think they mean is " you are the first foreigner I've met TODAY".
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Other
Thanks to all for your responses on the term "simple". Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".
It's usually included with the phrase "I want to meet for Friendship, Romance or Other". The whole phrase has the connotation of not seeking an exclusive long term relationship. You know, the kind guys like us are seeking on vacation. ;) Is my thinking right?
BTW I'll be visiting Cebu early in March and this is my first Asian trip. I am a veteran of several Costa Rica trips and hobby on a regular basis at home. I only wish I had started using DIA earlier. What a great resource. The responses so far have been great. I tend to like the more mature ladies. But then again I like the young ones too. :)
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overnight
[QUOTE=Marconista]Last trip of mine I was in Manila for pleasure only and used DiA to target ladies.
Four of the ladies I met was to begin with rather shy was up for friendship, as in having coffee or lunch. They all lived with their families and ALL said that their mother/father was strict with them and that they had a curfew to obey.
After some chatting on YM they were all interested to meet and have sex, and 3 of them claimed to never have been with a foreigner and excited about it.
So - we met in Harrison Mall and Mall of Asia about 10-11AM and took a taxi back to my hotel where they stayed until about 7pm.
The evenings I was not too exhausted, I went out to party with some local friends, but back early so I could meet the next friend the next morning. And - surprisingly, all but one met up at agreed time. The one that was late, was due to heavy rain.
So - essense of my experience is that ladies may not be willing to stay with you overnight, but willing to meet and fcuk during daytime.[/QUOTE]
You are right that many girls are reluctant to stay overnight even if they are up for a daytime meeting. (By the way if you are staying at a place with a pool try suggesting she come around for a swim, bring bikini and that you will be pleased to take photos of her - this is a very attractive proposition for many girls at it legitimizes coming to your room. Getting some decent photos is very important for them , to upload to their friendster and to improve their DIA profile - if you are looking for a threesome its also a good way of suggesting she bring along an open minded fuckable friend but make sure she is only allowed to bring slim sexy open minded real girls and specifically no gays, fatties or moral majority types. You can be frank and explicit about this.)
The reasons for non overnighting include worried about sleeping with a stranger, family curfew, Phils boyfriend, wants to go out dancing with her friends and blow the money you give her. Maybe 30% of those willing to fuck will also overnight if you want. Student types living at a "boardinmg house" away from their family can be the best bet.
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other
[QUOTE=Superman06]Thanks to all for your responses on the term "simple". Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".
It's usually included with the phrase "I want to meet for Friendship, Romance or Other". The whole phrase has the connotation of not seeking an exclusive long term relationship. You know, the kind guys like us are seeking on vacation. ;) Is my thinking right?
BTW I'll be visiting Cebu early in March and this is my first Asian trip. I am a veteran of several Costa Rica trips and hobby on a regular basis at home. I only wish I had started using DIA earlier. What a great resource. The responses so far have been great. I tend to like the more mature ladies. But then again I like the young ones too. :)[/QUOTE]
On balance this is probably what the majority of girls think other means (ie remunerated short term sex), but the girls often dont 100% understand what it means. The ones that do understand it are the pros/scammers/lady boys etc so if a girl ticks other pay attention to whether she might fall into that category.
Those ticking "dating" are probably more up for it than those ticking just marriage but i ignore what they have selected as i have found plenty who have specified just marriage willing to fuck too.
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Dia
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Excellent post Greg.
Just a couple of general points in response:
(1) I put up a relatively frank note like you suggested and someone must have read it and complained about it (reported me!). Next thing I know I was temporarily suspended and asked to modify my message so I guess this is always a risk
(2) The small-scale research project reported here that used 2 IDs is not permitted by DIA if you use the same computer with the same IP number. The system will block you from having 2 IDs and they will warn you that you will be banned.
You need to use a different computer (my experience anyway. Maybe there is a way around it?)
I totally agree with ALL of your suggestions. My experience is the same.[/QUOTE]
Good point RK
DIA has a policy that you cant solicit for money or offer money etc so I avoid references to paying anything, also you must use words that are clear but dont specifically mention sex etc.
Re the dual profiles. Yes you are in danger of getting both profile blocked if you use on the same computer/browser. I can access both my profile and my girl's profile on the laptop I'm now using maybe it allows a male and a female profile. If you want to try to run two profiles try using a different browser for each profile. Eg Firefox and Chrome or Opera or Flock or (last resort Explorer ). it may be using cookies that are held on a particular browser.
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Money
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Did you give them money?[/QUOTE]
EF: Is your concern one of
(1) Not wishing to offend girls
(2) Wanting to save money
(3) Wanting to boost your ego that you can still pull 19 year old cuties for free?
If it is (1), then don't be too worried, its mostly a question of the style with which you do it. Unless she is independently wealthy, within say 15 years of your age or shooting for a husband, very naive some financial contribution is likely to be expected or very much appreciated. But the majority of these girls are very keen not to be treated or feel like a *****, therefore the majority of non hard core ones will not ask for or discuss money, but for a girl living on say 200P a day a contribution of say 500P short time or 1000P all night is almost always appreciated. Try not to make a big deal about it here's something to help you with your bills or whatever. If you are worried about the girls feelings treat her like a gf when you say good bye not "here's your cash thanks for the fuck" that will make most of them feel very bad.
(2) For most guys flying in on a holiday the amounts involved are actually money well spent, firstly in helping someone who has made you happy, secondly on encouraging repeat performances or invitations to fuck friends too and thirdly to make things much less complicated in terms of emotional commitment. The expats living here long term will often be on a tighter budget and see things differently.
(3) Surprising though it may seem the average Joe balding 40/50 something white guy is in many cases a genuinely attractive sexual partner to many 20 year old Filipinas. Of course its also the hotel and restaurant lifestyle that is assumed to come with it, but if you are tolerably good in bed you will find many Filipinas who REALLY enjoy being fucked by you and want it as many times as you can manage. This is a big difference with Thailand and the rest of SEA and one of the main reasons fro coming to the Phils and avoiding the bar scene where I think girls will inevitably become too jaded to genuinely enjoy the experience.
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Offline DIA
What I used to do at DIA was search while NOT logged in! To do this just bring DIA up without logging in and search for what you're looking for! Write the screen names of those you want to hit on and save them or write them down and When properley signed in send them messages!
I found this system was great because I was'nt bothered by girls contacting me while I was hunting!
Hope this helps!
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]EF: Is your concern one of
(1) Not wishing to offend girls
(2) Wanting to save money
(3) Wanting to boost your ego that you can still pull 19 year old cuties for free?[/QUOTE]C'mon mate, 2 is not an option. 2, 000 pesos isn't even the price of a cab ride in London or Paris!:)
3. I don't do 19 yo:)
1- yep, especially since I target girls in the 25-30 yo range. I target girls with an education and a descent job. Giving cash to a 20 yo is easy, like go buy yourself something nice at the mall or something. To give cash to a 25-30 yo lady it's more tricky!
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@Freebiefan,
Yeah for sure lolz.. the first foreigner today.
But honestly, they were all totally amateurs in my eyes.
@Escort Fan,
I gave them a little, for transport and to fill up the rice-fund of the family. I did not feel for buying a sack of rice, so gave some cash instead :D
Actually, I remember one of the girls describing her family situation, and saying how they were struggling on a day to day basis, as none in the family had a job. I told her I was willing to contribute a little, and it was thumbs-up on the webcam.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Did you give them money?[/QUOTE]
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glad to hear it
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]C'mon mate, 2 is not an option. 2, 000 pesos isn't even the price of a cab ride in London or Paris!:)
3. I don't do 19 yo:)
1- yep, especially since I target girls in the 25-30 yo range. I target girls with an education and a descent job. Giving cash to a 20 yo is easy, like go buy yourself something nice at the mall or something. To give cash to a 25-30 yo lady it's more tricky![/QUOTE]
You are right its more tricky, but generally cash will still be much appreciated. A uni girl with a job as a manageress at a finance company for example may only be earning 8000-10000 P a month at least in the provinces. I think its only when u start talking about the real middle classes where she has a car etc that its much of an issue.
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[QUOTE=Superman06]Naturally I'm wondering about another term that might seem obvious. That term would be "other".
. Is my thinking right?[/QUOTE]Super I think you are over-analysing the sentence "Friendship, Romance or Other" and giving the girls too much credit for reading it carefully and considering it carefully too.
As Greg L says, they don't know what "other" means, and the option does not allow you or the girl to discriminate between the 3 options anyway.
If you are more interested in "Other" then you could put that in your profile by saying something like "I am particularly interested in Friendship and Other activities but I am not a very romantic person"
I have just given myself an idea to modify my own profile LOL
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Super I think you are over-analysing the sentence "Friendship, Romance or Other" and giving the girls too much credit for reading it carefully and considering it carefully too.
As Greg L says, they don't know what "other" means, and the option does not allow you or the girl to discriminate between the 3 options anyway.
If you are more interested in "Other" then you could put that in your profile by saying something like "I am particularly interested in Friendship and Other activities but I am not a very romantic person"
I have just given myself an idea to modify my own profile LOL[/QUOTE]
You're probably right about my over-analysing. I too have been editing my profile to make it clear that I'm only looking for a short term friend to spend time with while I'm here for two weeks.
All the same DIA is amazing. I have chatted with several ladies over the past two days. Some of the scammers are a little too obvious. The advice here on what to expect and how to make best use of DIA has been more than helpful.
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Show Me The Money
I have posted here recently asking advice on scam issues with recent Filipinas found on dating websites. To restate to readers , I am sincere in my quest to find a wife.
It turns out it really is all about the money.
This is apparent of course in the regular course of business here, but one would suppose that those women who would want real marriageable relationships would not be interested in financial gain simultaneous with finding a real husband. How naïve am I?
So, after the recent scam attempts and the requisite emotional turmoil, and on the advice of Marconista, I changed my Cherry Blossoms text introduction to a variation on his theme.
NO, I DO NOT SEND MONEY TO HEAL YOUR CARABAO OR FIX YOUR LEAKY BOAT.
I DO NOT WANT CASUAL SEX. SERIOUS relationship seekers only need reply.
I thought that my new introduction would chase away the scammers. It did indeed, but not only the scammers - all the others have vanished as well!!??? Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!
As Rubberyman's ALTERBOY found out thru SEXYBEAST - even paragons of the marriageable Filipina are seducible - presumably in return for some financial compensation.
My experience would seem to support Rubberyman's conclusion, that "just about every single one of them will fuck around until they have the security of that ring on their finger, NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK".
Oh well, I have to go now and start bailing as I try to fix MY leaky boat.
What a world, what a world.
Bob
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[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]
...Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!
...
Bob[/QUOTE]
So, what do you want? Quantity or Quality? Do you want 8 to 12 bull Sh*t messages from scammers or one quality message every three days? Hmmm...
Quality doesn't come in high volume.
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person.com
[QUOTE=Superman06]You're probably right about my over-analysing. I too have been editing my profile to make it clear that I'm only looking for a short term friend to spend time with while I'm here for two weeks.
All the same DIA is amazing. I have chatted with several ladies over the past two days. Some of the scammers are a little too obvious. The advice here on what to expect and how to make best use of DIA has been more than helpful.[/QUOTE]
Another free site that some guys have found very useful is person.com it is focussed on web cams I find it overcomplicated and never really got the hang of it, but an ozzie guy i met generated alot of hot contacts on it as well as lots of cam fun
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Not Complaining - Just Noted
Hey there Superman. All that I wrote was just an observation. I would much rather have 1 real message than an inbox full of BS. In fact that was my intent, I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.
Bob
[QUOTE=Superman06]So, what do you want? Quantity or Quality? Do you want 8 to 12 bull Sh*t messages from scammers or one quality message every three days? Hmmm...
Quality doesn't come in high volume.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.[/QUOTE]
I think you just come across as an untrusting psycho hater. Just like the girls who put in "DONT MSG ME IF ALL YOU WANT IS SEX!"
I am sure there are independent girls who want a nice husband with no intent to provide support to family. There may even be 10 or 20 in the country. lol Not really, I saw on the theworldoffilipinas forum a poll that suggested about 10% or so of fhil-am couples did not send any money home. (but maybe she does anyway directly from her own bank account)
If you are sincere, maybe try a more sincere approach. Look at what some girls put. Thinks like, "I am sincerely looking for my soulmate"
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I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.
Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.
That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.
She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.
So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.
Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.
Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.
However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)
1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like
2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.
So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.
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[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]Hey there Superman. All that I wrote was just an observation. I would much rather have 1 real message than an inbox full of BS. In fact that was my intent, I just didn't expect to see such a sharp reduction so quickly.
Bob[/QUOTE]
Well Bob, I've also gotten a real drop in messages. Unlike you I'm just looking for a few short time "friends". I edit my intro on a daily basis and make it clearer with each edit what I am seeking. I may be too clear. I probably need to pull back a bit. I think for them saving face is everything.
BTW I hope you don't think I was breaking your balls, because I wasn't. I think your taking the right path for finding a life long partner. Good luck in your quest.
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@Towelboy
One reason of the decline in messages is that when you are new on DiA, there will be a "new"-sign on your profile when the ladies do their searching. After some days (I dont know how many days) the sign will disappear, making you a regular (or pro if u like), hence not that interesting to the scammers that are looking for fresh meat.
My only problem now will be that the ladies will ask if I have several profiles in DiA because of you he he he... I will deny until hell freezes, and say someone must have stolen my line :D
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]
I thought that my new introduction would chase away the scammers. It did indeed, but not only the scammers - all the others have vanished as well!!??? Rather than the usual 8-12 messages a day, I got 1 in the last 3 days!!!
Bob[/QUOTE]
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DIA (married or attached)
I have recently been writing to the ones who say "married or attached". Their profiles say looking for "friends only" but I find it interesting that they are on a site like DIA and looking for men friends.
I am currently chatting with a very pretty 40 yo who claims to be "happily married". I actually met her in a somewhat clandestine meeting 2 weeks ago in a fancy restaurant, chosen by her as she felt that none of her friends would see her with another guy. She was nervous and had to be home by 9pm as her hubby works until 9 pm. Nothing happened at all during the dinner, but since then she has been sending me lots of messages offline and we have chatted a few times too. She is asking when I will visit her city again as she hopes we can meet again.
It is very interesting to me. When we chat she keeps saying how much she enjoys our chats but around 9pm she always has to end the chat because "Sorry - my hubby is home now so I have to go". She is a nice person and we get on very well, and she has told me how her hubby is her childhood sweetheart since she was 16 and he is the only boyfriend and lover that she has ever had.
I suspect that she is torn between being a good and faithful wife and having a last fling before she gets much older, and she is curious to sample another guy too. She also knows that I am divorced, yet she still keeps in touch with me and is now starting to make flirtatious comments about our next meeting follwed by the usual "hahaha" or LOL as though it is a joke but I know she is not really joking. At some stage soon I will increase the tempo and start making specific comments about the next meeting and ask her to arrange to stay out longer and not have to rush home. The option of a daytime meeting is also "on the table".
I have been long and detailed in this post to show you that "married or attached" women on a dating site will always want to appear as though they just want "friends" but they must be missing something in their lives if they are on DIA. I have 2 others on the chat list too - one is very keen to meet but in a more difficult city to reach (for me anyway) and cannot travel to meet me, and the other one is in the early stages of contact.
I will keep you updated.
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.
Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.
That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.
She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.
So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.
Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.
Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.
However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)
1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like
2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.
So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.[/QUOTE]
You made a newbie mistake. You can easily meet many girls for casual date if you are ready to spend money. But the main purpose of searching for atleast most of us is to get sex from non-working girls.
I have been successfull in getting laid few times although some are only ready to meet for casual date. It is always better to ask if they are willing to stay with you in the hotel. If they say yes it will mean sex.
It is impossible to distinguish sophisticated girls and others. If you are looking for a steady relationship it is not easy to find a good girl in DIA because irrespective of what they say it is difficult to find out their past.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]You made a newbie mistake. You can easily meet many girls for casual date if you are ready to spend money. But the main purpose of searching for atleast most of us is to get sex from non-working girls.
I have been successfull in getting laid few times although some are only ready to meet for casual date. It is always better to ask if they are willing to stay with you in the hotel. If they say yes it will mean sex.
It is impossible to distinguish sophisticated girls and others. If you are looking for a steady relationship it is not easy to find a good girl in DIA because irrespective of what they say it is difficult to find out their past.[/QUOTE]She wasn't "working girl" as in escort or prostitute. She was a curious girl not in need of money. (or at least it seems I don't know many WG's who have an executive job, a classy sense of fashion, own a car, and rent a descent condo in makati).
You ask girl if she's ok to stay at the hotel before meeting her?
A girl that promises to fuck with a guy based on a small pic from DIA and 3 messages exchanged must be desperate, can we only score desperate girls?:)
On a side note tonight many girls in burgos told me they are on DIA and FH so what's the point of scoring them online rather than picking them up on location! (except saving the BF cost!).
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DIA Strategy
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.
Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.
That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.
She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.
So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.
Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.
Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.
However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)
1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like
2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.
So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.[/QUOTE]
Each of us is probably looking for something slightly different in terms of type of girl / ease with which sex happens / time frame etc
The type of girl that i tend to target is 18-25, college student, had a few phil BFs but maybe no or just one or two foreign guys. I like girls I feel I can trust and have decent conversations with and who are not looking for a LTR with me but rather to gain experience/ earn a little cash. Ideally I like girls who are willing to play with other girls as well as me.
Of course each one is different, but i find that this type of girl can become a genuine friend as well as sexual partner and give real sex which she enjoys as much as me. Very different from the typical bar girl experience.
Before meeting i try and find out A) whether she looks good enough through pics cam /tagged/friendster pics etc B) whether she has had a baby C) whether she is open minded enough to visit me at my hotel and if we like each other have sex and whether she finds my "high sex drive" a problem or not D) that she is clear I'm looking for a fun friends and not a serious GF/wife
My strategy is to say let's meet up at my hotel and see how we get on and then if we get on well then yes we can go out to dinner /order some food. of course in the west one would expect to wine and dine a girl before fucking her but this is the Phils - different rules apply - and for the vast majority of DIA girls a pizza or Jollybees is a treat a 6000P meal is a ludicrous luxury
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Dia
I have a friend who met a girl in Cebu on DIA and she is a good 8 in looks and non-pro (:D) He has been seeing and supporting her for two months. He likes to have one girl and he is happy with supporting one girl. He told me yesterday that he had to break it off because he found out that she is married and living with her husband:( and yet she would stay up to three days with him when he went to Cebu (last month 4 visits).
OIP
Robb
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]I have a friend who met a girl in Cebu on DIA and she is a good 8 in looks and non-pro (:D) He has been seeing and supporting her for two months. He likes to have one girl and he is happy with supporting one girl. He told me yesterday that he had to break it off because he found out that she is married and living with her husband:( and yet she would stay up to three days with him when he went to Cebu (last month 4 visits).
OIP
Robb[/QUOTE]
Hahaha... nothing surprises me about them Pinas anymore!
YM
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A good job
Escort Fan -- What a marvelous story about the executive lady. I envy you. Now there is some mystery in the air: will the boy pursue/get the girl or what happens? This is priceless, worth much more as an experience than a couple of expensive meals.
Our hobby being what it is make us lose our innocence, just like bar girls do the longer are in the business. So see where this will take you. Nice to hear about human moments.
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[QUOTE=Vittu]Escort Fan. What a marvelous story about the executive lady. I envy you. Now there is some mystery in the air: will the boy pursue/get the girl or what happens? This is priceless, worth much more as an experience than a couple of expensive meals.
Our hobby being what it is make us lose our innocence, just like bar girls do the longer are in the business. So see where this will take you. Nice to hear about human moments.[/QUOTE]After Boracay I will return to Manila and book another lady and will report!
Well I got blueballed as my american friend would say, but I have no regrets it was certainly an interesting evening from a sociologial point of view even though I would understand sociology might not be everyone's cup of tea.
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Aggressive DIA
I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)
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[QUOTE=Superman06]I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)[/QUOTE]
Sticking to bar fines and avoiding aggressive DIA chicks is not a bad idea. When chicks want to meet you at the airport, know what flight you're on and what hotel you'll be staying at it is a clear indication of intentions to control your wallet and eliminate any possibility of other girls snatching what to them is a prize pig flush with foreign currency. Many will offer to be your "tour guide" in an attempt to monopolize your every waking hour and suck up as much cash as possible. Remember in this hobby you pay them to leave after you fuck them. If you get into the girlfriend game they'll try to keep you to themselves for the entire trip which defeats the purpose of making a 23 hour mongering run.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Sticking to bar fines and avoiding aggressive DIA chicks is not a bad idea. When chicks want to meet you at the airport, know what flight you're on and what hotel you'll be staying at it is a clear indication of intentions to control your wallet and eliminate any possibility of other girls snatching what to them is a prize pig flush with foreign currency. Many will offer to be your "tour guide" in an attempt to monopolize your every waking hour and suck up as much cash as possible. Remember in this hobby you pay them to leave after you fuck them. If you get into the girlfriend game they'll try to keep you to themselves for the entire trip which defeats the purpose of making a 23 hour mongering run.[/QUOTE]
CM, very well said!
Robb
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DIA is still ok for chasing pussy. But ... you are in charge of who you meet and when, not them. If a girl wants to meet me at the airport, I always move on to the next one, I don't care how hot that one is, I won't go along with her program. I do not like to tell DIA girls what hotel I'm staying at, I may give the general area it is in, but no more than that until I've met them somewhere else.
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[QUOTE=Finrod]DIA is still ok for chasing pussy. But ... you are in charge of who you meet and when, not them. If a girl wants to meet me at the airport, I always move on to the next one, I don't care how hot that one is, I won't go along with her program. I do not like to tell DIA girls what hotel I'm staying at, I may give the general area it is in, but no more than that until I've met them somewhere else.[/QUOTE]
Excellent judgment. You are in control, not them by any means. The only person that meets me at the airport is the taxi. My program or nobody's program. Its my ball and if I can't pitch, I don't play.
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You've already rec'd some good tips -- Finrod especially. CM sounds a bit bitter. You may meet a woman like he describes, but you'll also meet some real sweeties.
Here is what I do regarding arrival date: Give an arrival date a bit later than your actual plan. Then if you contact them earlier than expected, explain that you were able to get an earlier flight. White lie?
Hotel: Ask them for their recommendation. They'll usually suggest the most expensive place in town. Then say that you can't afford it. That will lower their expectations. Unlike some of the other guys, I do like to meet them at my hotel lobby -- especially when it's a nicer place. (Did I just contradict myself?) You might even find some quick excuse to go up to your room before your date begins. "I want to get my camera. It'll only take a minute. Come with me." Then, do what you told her you would do -- just grab the camera.* This creates TRUST. Then, later, when you invite her to your room you'll be less likely to set off warning signals.
*Of course if she immediately jumps on the bed to test it out, you might consider plan B.
I prefer the hotel because sometimes they arrive much later than expected, so I want to be somewhere comfortable if I have a long wait. The mall is another choice.
Other tips about meeting --Don't be tempted to go to their place unless you have a good reason for doing so. Some guys insist that the gal comes alone, but I think you scare some away with that. I usually ask if they will come alone. If they want to bring a friend, I might say, "okay, but only if she's cute like you." After that type of exchange I've had a few end up coming alone.
You should reconfirm a meeting appointment -- especially the first one. They can be pretty thick in the head when it comes to this. I once had a no-show from a gal who blamed me because I hadn't reconfirmed -- despite the fact that she didn't have a cell phone. The date was set up by email, just before my flight. Duh.
If I'm attracted to her, I might try some light touching to see how she reacts. It's best not to do this where others are watching.
Lastly, I no longer even consider the 7th Day Adventists gals after a few bad experiences. Has anyone had luck with these types?
X
[QUOTE=Superman06]I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]
Lastly, I no longer even consider the 7th Day Adventists gals after a few bad experiences. Has anyone had luck with these types?
X[/QUOTE]
I got lucky with one in Davao two trips ago. Had her panties off on the second date. It was a lot of work and really cut down on my other opportunities.
YM
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Come with a friend
[QUOTE=X Man]You've already rec'd some good tips -- Finrod especially. CM sounds a bit bitter. You may meet a woman like he describes, but you'll also meet some real sweeties.
Here is what I do regarding arrival date: Give an arrival date a bit later than your actual plan. Then if you contact them earlier than expected, explain that you were able to get an earlier flight. White lie?
Hotel: Ask them for their recommendation. They'll usually suggest the most expensive place in town. Then say that you can't afford it. That will lower their expectations. Unlike some of the other guys, I do like to meet them at my hotel lobby -- especially when it's a nicer place. (Did I just contradict myself?) You might even find some quick excuse to go up to your room before your date begins. "I want to get my camera. It'll only take a minute. Come with me." Then, do what you told her you would do -- just grab the camera.* This creates TRUST. Then, later, when you invite her to your room you'll be less likely to set off warning signals.
*Of course if she immediately jumps on the bed to test it out, you might consider plan B.
I prefer the hotel because sometimes they arrive much later than expected, so I want to be somewhere comfortable if I have a long wait. The mall is another choice.
Other tips about meeting --Don't be tempted to go to their place unless you have a good reason for doing so. Some guys insist that the gal comes alone, but I think you scare some away with that. I usually ask if they will come alone. If they want to bring a friend, I might say, "okay, but only if she's cute like you." After that type of exchange I've had a few end up coming alone.
You should reconfirm a meeting appointment -- especially the first one. They can be pretty thick in the head when it comes to this. I once had a no-show from a gal who blamed me because I hadn't reconfirmed -- despite the fact that she didn't have a cell phone. The date was set up by email, just before my flight. Duh.
If I'm attracted to her, I might try some light touching to see how she reacts. It's best not to do this where others are watching.
Lastly, I no longer even consider the 7th Day Adventists gals after a few bad experiences. Has anyone had luck with these types?
X[/QUOTE]
My policy on the bring a friend question is ! to insist that the friend is 100% female - it's always trouble and often big trouble if they bring a gay/lb friend. 2 I usually ask if the friend is open minded and willing to have sex too. I've got a 25 year old wanting to come and see me these next few days at first she wanted to being her cousin and a friend who she said i could fuck as well but they are 34/30 so too old for me, now she has russelled up another cousin 21 who looks great in her pics. The only sticking doing at the moment is that they want to meet at the mall rather than a my hotel and as X Man says this is a recipe for having to wait around for an hour. She was talking about needing 1000P for shopping (she says she will stay all night, so I've agreed 1500P for the 2 girls all night. Usually the girls will give a discount if you take more than 1. Shes a DIA girl seems to live in a decent place with her own laptop Showed me her naked body on can so shouldn't be too many surprises. The other issue is that the two college girls I had last night (friends of former DIA contact) are supposed to be coming around for a repeat performance of a pretty full on threesome (they had secretly fancied each other for many years apparently, but this was the first time they had kissed and licked each other. They are 2 beautiful 21 year olds from good families but are pretty open minded and take a more the merrier approach to me inviting other girls. One way or another it should be a good night.
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Meeting at the Airport-- My Point of View
[QUOTE=Superman06]I have struck up several chat pals on DIA over the past few weeks. As I get closer to my arrival date in Cebu, three have offered to meet me at the airport. They want to know my flight number and and what hotel I'm staying at. I've told all that I would call them the day after my arrival. This is after all a 23 hour trip for me and I will likely be dead to the world for a day or so. Of course I don't give them the requested information and have even lied about my arrival day. Some have even tried to guilt me with they don't want to bother me if I don't like them blah, blah,blah. I'm thinking about avoiding them all together and stick with bar fines. I have though enjoyed chatting with some of them. :)[/QUOTE]In my experience, when a babe wants to meet you at the airport, this may be a good thing. She wants to "take possession" of you right away to make sure no other woman can get her hands on you. If you play your cards right, and find someone real hot, you can bet that she wants to stay at the hotel with you and fuck your brains out. She is motivated to keep you happy, lest you dump her and move on.
If you are interested in banging as many *****s as possible, then yes, barfining is the way to go. But if you are looking for a real GFE, then submit a bit to the girl's aggressiveness. She will more likely treat you like a here one and only, rather than simply a customer.
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THanks for the alternate opinion. The only time I met a gal at the airport is when I flew her in from Manila to Cebu, but then I already knew she was hot and ready for some good lovin'.
You have a good point, but my life became much easier after I stopped allowing women to dictate their terms. My way or the highway...says X Man, who usually rides a bicycle. ;-)
There is a certain aggresiveness about many Filipinas...is it a matriarchial society? Oh, about twenty years ago when I was dating Filiipinas almost my age I had an accountant (for a large corportation) gf who verbally tore into a taxi driver who had tried to rip us off with a broken / hidden meter. She scared the hell out of me almost as much as the snarky little taxi driver. Flor...I wonder what ever happened to her.
I've gone off on a tagent, but RG, maybe you have too! If a girl has what you want, and is also intelligent and knows here stuff, I admit that letting her call the shots can be quite fun and relaxing and rewarding. But you seem to suggest the opposite is to "bang as many ? as possible". That probably isn't what you meant.
A lot depends on the situation / situations. Which, of course, is why we see so many different opinions being bandied about.
X
[QUOTE=Radical Guy]In my experience, when a babe wants to meet you at the airport, this may be a good thing. She wants to "take possession" of you right away to make sure no other woman can get her hands on you. If you play your cards right, and find someone real hot, you can bet that she wants to stay at the hotel with you and fuck your brains out. She is motivated to keep you happy, lest you dump her and move on.
If you are interested in banging as many *****s as possible, then yes, barfining is the way to go. But if you are looking for a real GFE, then submit a bit to the girl's aggressiveness. She will more likely treat you like a here one and only, rather than simply a customer.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]THanks for the alternate opinion. The only time I met a gal at the airport is when I flew her in from Manila to Cebu, but then I already knew she was hot and ready for some good lovin'.
You have a good point, but my life became much easier after I stopped allowing women to dictate their terms. My way or the highway. Says X Man, who usually rides a bicycle.
There is a certain aggresiveness about many Filipinas. Is it a matriarchial society? Oh, about twenty years ago when I was dating Filiipinas almost my age I had an accountant (for a large corportation) gf who verbally tore into a taxi driver who had tried to rip us off with a broken / hidden meter. She scared the hell out of me almost as much as the snarky little taxi driver. Flor. I wonder what ever happened to her.
I've gone off on a tagent, but RG, maybe you have too! If a girl has what you want, and is also intelligent and knows here stuff, I admit that letting her call the shots can be quite fun and relaxing and rewarding. But you seem to suggest the opposite is to "bang as many? As possible". That probably isn't what you meant.
A lot depends on the situation / situations. Which, of course, is why we see so many different opinions being bandied about.
X[/QUOTE]I should add that I am a "retired" monger. I finally found the one for me and married her, and never regreted it for even a minute. But even when I was playing the field there, I preferred to have a nice time with a very few special ladies for no less than 3-4 days each, or perhaps even a week if she was extra special.
I never promised a lady that I would marry her (other than the one I did marry), but I also would not tell her that marriage was not a possibility. Thus, most women (not P4P) would do everything they could to make me fall in love with them. I had 2 or 3 girls insist on giving me their virginity, satisfied with just the chance that I would ultimately want to marry them. Yes, some may have had their hearts broken when I finally moved on, but they knew the score from the beginning.
Of course, given the fact that most ladies believed that I *might* be inclined to walk down the isle with them, they were very possessive and jealous of anyone who might try to get my attention. I dunno, but I found this level of possessiveness sort of a turn-on. For the most part, I found the ladies to be sexually aggressive, often to the point of me telling them "Enough! I need some sleep. " When a Filipina thinks you may be husband material, I found that they are not quite so insistant on milking you financially in the short term, though I tend to be rather generous in this regard.
Anyway, allowing a girl to meet me at the airport is part of my fantasy of being her "property" for awhile, and her personal plaything at the hotel. Personally, back in my monger days, I found this much more exciting than having sex with women who were simply "for hire. "
Just my 2 cents worth. No offense to anyone who prefers the straight P4P scenario.
RG
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I have recently been writing to the ones who say "married or attached". Their profiles say looking for "friends only" but I find it interesting that they are on a site like DIA and looking for men friends.
I am currently chatting with a very pretty 40 yo who claims to be "happily married". I actually met her in a somewhat clandestine meeting 2 weeks ago in a fancy restaurant, chosen by her as she felt that none of her friends would see her with another guy. She was nervous and had to be home by 9pm as her hubby works until 9 pm. Nothing happened at all during the dinner, but since then she has been sending me lots of messages offline and we have chatted a few times too. She is asking when I will visit her city again as she hopes we can meet again.
It is very interesting to me. When we chat she keeps saying how much she enjoys our chats but around 9pm she always has to end the chat because "Sorry - my hubby is home now so I have to go". She is a nice person and we get on very well, and she has told me how her hubby is her childhood sweetheart since she was 16 and he is the only boyfriend and lover that she has ever had.
I suspect that she is torn between being a good and faithful wife and having a last fling before she gets much older, and she is curious to sample another guy too. She also knows that I am divorced, yet she still keeps in touch with me and is now starting to make flirtatious comments about our next meeting follwed by the usual "hahaha" or LOL as though it is a joke but I know she is not really joking. At some stage soon I will increase the tempo and start making specific comments about the next meeting and ask her to arrange to stay out longer and not have to rush home. The option of a daytime meeting is also "on the table".
I have been long and detailed in this post to show you that "married or attached" women on a dating site will always want to appear as though they just want "friends" but they must be missing something in their lives if they are on DIA. I have 2 others on the chat list too - one is very keen to meet but in a more difficult city to reach (for me anyway) and cannot travel to meet me, and the other one is in the early stages of contact.
I will keep you updated.
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Is there a point to your relationship with this woman? She kills lonely hours with you and gets you to take her to expensive places that she can't afford. You get no sex, while she screwing her husband? We are talking about the filipines right? Why are you doing this to yourself, and for a 40 year old woman. This is something men are suppose to do over there to women not the other way around.
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I am not a DIA virgin anymore. Met my frist girl.
Because I wanted the opposite of a bar girl, I picked up a lady in her early 30's who's an executive here in Manila. Her english was perfect even had an american accent, and cleary she was at ease at the Penisula, came to the place with her own car, so I'm quite sure she's really an executive from the upper middle class from Manila. I had already a good feeling as her spelling was perfect on Dia vs girls that spell "like" "lyk" or that kind of stuff.
That's exactly the opposite of a bar girl as she had clever conversation and I had really a good time.
She told me she had to pick up her younger brother (who kept sms'ing her) when the dinner started.
So after dinner (6,000 PHP heh) she excused herself.
Overall a pleasant evening because the conversation was interesting and quite different from the other Philippines girls I had met before.
Some might think what a rip off, he shelled out 6K for a dinner and didn't even score. Yeah well that's not even 100 Euros so that's ok.
However, what did I do wrong because I want to improve my dia skills:)
1- should I be more straight about me wanting sex? I see it tricky for the girl to commit having sex with a 2cm x 2cm picture of a guy that might not even represent what the guy is really like
2- should I go for less sophisticated girls, because this high maintenance girl didn't strike me as the kind that would sleep on the frist night.
So I'm waiting for tips from DIA veterans.[/QUOTE]
If she in her early 30's that doesn't need money. what does this girl do exactly? I doubt it if she an exec in terms of what we have in the states and the level of pay isn't the same as what you may assume. She may come from family with deep pockets.
Girls tend to fall into the simple or the sophisticated "even if they aren't and can't afford to be" The simple one will tell you something like " anything is fine" if you ask them what they want to go and eat etc... the so call sophisticated one will of course recommend only the best even though she never been there before and could never afford to go there on her own, just to get a free meal from you. I know it sounds cheesy, but its like asking for a nice car and getting it for free why not. You can find educated girls who are much more down to earth especially in their 30's. These have been a lot economically and may have problems with bf and will be more likely down to earth. If you have a chance to go and check out your girls living arrangements I suspect that you may be in for a shock, since you wouldn't expect an exec to be living that way. I don't mean to imply that she lives in a dump, but probably not high end as what one would think an exec would be living in. Also 6000 peso for dinner ahemmm while you can down play it by saying its not even a 100 euro , may i remind you that the average filipino makes about 100 dollars a month! I know a filipina making a so call good living make 200 dollars a month. I doubt she has even been where you took her unless it was on someone else's dime. Spending 6000 peso for dinner for 2 over, is a huge amount for 99% of the pop, hell its a pretty penny even over here just for a date. No offense, but spending that much money for conversation is like one of those telephone sex operator lines where you pay large sums of money to talk to supposedly hot girls over the phone. In both cases its better to save your money and o get laid from a working girl.
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]Is there a point to your relationship with this woman? She kills lonely hours with you and gets you to take her to expensive places that she can't afford. You get no sex, while she screwing her husband? We are talking about the filipines right? Why are you doing this to yourself, and for a 40 year old woman. This is something men are suppose to do over there to women not the other way around.[/QUOTE]
Wrong Pimpster. She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history. She is a very sexy and classy 40 yo; really enjoyed it all, and no strings attached. So I am NOT wasting my time, and I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too.
Why? Because I can. And I can afford it too. My choice.
Some of us guys here (well, me anyway) don't like the young 20 somethings. I much prefer an older more mature woman any day. No complications or hang-ups, and they are discreet too (I am working in her town and need to be careful). I also have some scruples about banging anyone younger than my daughter.
That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.
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Red Kilt....I'm afraid to ask what that means...
Great to hear that there was a happy ending. I once had the pleasure of a upper mid class Filipina -- in her 30s.
On our first date, the chemistry was right. No doubt about that. But she wouldn't do it on the first date. I was pretty disappointed, and wondered if I should cut my losses.
No problem, her driver dropped her off about noon the next day and we were buck naked about 30 min later. There was only about 12 hours difference, but technically it WAS the second date. The wait was worth it....X
Come to think of it, I've never had to wait, nor bothered to wait, for a 3rd date in the Philippines.
This may be common sense, but if one wants to give a woman a between-the-leg-urge, just send this text about an hour after she leaves. "I miss you already...blah, blah..."
Thanks for the posts Red...umm..Kilt
[QUOTE=Red Kilt] She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history.
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That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Wrong Pimpster. She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history. She is a very sexy and classy 40 yo; really enjoyed it all, and no strings attached. So I am NOT wasting my time, and I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too.
Why? Because I can. And I can afford it too. My choice.
Some of us guys here (well, me anyway) don't like the young 20 somethings. I much prefer an older more mature woman any day. No complications or hang-ups, and they are discreet too (I am working in her town and need to be careful). I also have some scruples about banging anyone younger than my daughter.
That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with Pimpster on this one. If I wanna screw 40 year olds, I dont have to fly to the Philippines to do it. They're a dime a dozen in America. Twenty year olds are much more delicious and supple! Take heed of a post by Robbaf recently about his friend who was dating a girl who was married and living with her husband, but never told his friend about it. Filipinas will always have the upper hand in any kind of relationship because they tell us stuff that we want to believe is true, and our little head below will believe damn near anything. But a 40ish filipina has much more experience dealing with men than your average 20 year old, and will be more attentive to your needs giving you a better GF experience and making you believe you're special. I'm not busting balls, just making a few observations is all.
YM
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When is the last time a 20 yr old got out of (her) bed, kissed you good bye, and then went off to her high profile job -- on the way instructing her maid to cook you eggs and her driver to get you to the airport in time for your flight.
But yea, those twentish lasses are sure fine to look at...and photograph.
twentyish? --- where is Warbucks with his damn dictionary! :-)
As for the Robbaf story, was that an older woman? I don't remember that. When I read the story I couldn't help wonder if the husband knew and approved the situation.
I once found a rather cute street walker in Davao who nonchalantly told me that she needed to get home to her bf...and yes, he knew what her p/t job was. I told her to invite him over so that he could take the pictures, but she didn't think that was a very good idea. Of course neither did I, but it was fun to see her reaction. X
[QUOTE=Yella Man]I have to agree with Pimpster on this one. If I wanna screw 40 year olds, I dont have to fly to the Philippines to do it. They're a dime a dozen in America. Twenty year olds are much more delicious and supple! Take heed of a post by Robbaf recently about his friend who was dating a girl who was married and living with her husband,
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What is she thinking?
i am simple and nice woman looking for a good and nice man...
** Okay, you've heard that before. Now if you really want to visit her profile at DIA....
...let me give you her handle...
... are you ready for this???...
"fuckingshit"
Yep, you can be sure this is a really 'nice' one.
GregLondon, I'll leave it up to you to do your community service and help this gal clean up her message. X
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Sure a good meal is going to cost you, but i assume she suggested the place because the guy is a newbie, so what are the chances that this girl frequents the place. We've all had girls suggested the most upscale hotels restaurants etc... even though its clear they haven''t ever set foot in the place before. You never ever let the girl make the call how things are going to be. I assume that the goal is to get laid.
[QUOTE=Darklord2]"I had really a good time".
All the rest is bulhot.
And even though income in the Phils might be low. A good dinner for two will cost you 6000 pesos in any upmarket restaurant.
If you can afford it enjoy it.
Thanks for sharing. Real uplifting report on DIA. Don't see that many here.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Wrong Pimpster. She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history. She is a very sexy and classy 40 yo; really enjoyed it all, and no strings attached. So I am NOT wasting my time, and I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too.
Why? Because I can. And I can afford it too. My choice.
Some of us guys here (well, me anyway) don't like the young 20 somethings. I much prefer an older more mature woman any day. No complications or hang-ups, and they are discreet too (I am working in her town and need to be careful). I also have some scruples about banging anyone younger than my daughter.
That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.[/QUOTE]
I agree that there are some older women over there that are truly hot even when you compared it younger women, granted this is hard to find imho. No offense how many times have guys on here say that because they can afford to. Most of us can afford to, but if you are hunting are you the hunter or the pray. Guys who support women over there with large sums of money only later to ***** that she had a pinoy bf or that she had another guy sending her money. I'm sure they can afford to, but sooner or later from my experience and other members the smart ones will string you along and then come up with i m pregnant or death in the family need money sort of thing for a quick pay day. In the end its your life and you have the right what to do with it, but you may want to take into consideration what many of us have learned the hard way to prevent yourself from feeling used later on.
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[QUOTE=X Man]When is the last time a 20 yr old got out of (her) bed, kissed you good bye, and then went off to her high profile job -- on the way instructing her maid to cook you eggs and her driver to get you to the airport in time for your flight.
But yea, those twentish lasses are sure fine to look at...and photograph.
twentyish? --- where is Warbucks with his damn dictionary! :-)
As for the Robbaf story, was that an older woman? I don't remember that. When I read the story I couldn't help wonder if the husband knew and approved the situation.
I once found a rather cute street walker in Davao who nonchalantly told me that she needed to get home to her bf...and yes, he knew what her p/t job was. I told her to invite him over so that he could take the pictures, but she didn't think that was a very good idea. Of course neither did I, but it was fun to see her reaction. X[/QUOTE]
This all depends most 20year old are poor as dirt no question about that most 40 year olds are poor as dirt to. I haven't met many hot 40 something exec with a maid. As far as being sweet and attentive to your needs? I will have to say that its a crap shoot, both 40 and 20 year olds will treat you like crap and the reverse is true. 20 year old can be very loving etc.. especially if they don't have a lot of experience with guys come from the province. Its a natural thing for pinay to be jealous of other girls so they try their best to screw your brains out take care of you etc... they probably have never been treated so well. When an american goes to PI with is dollars its like tiger woods status. I gave a girl a bar of Dove soap once and she was sooooooooooooo greatful and i'n not jusgt talking about sex. Apparently,she had used it once at her well off cousin house, but could never really afford it on her own since money was tight. So it just depends, imo the girls who don't have very much will treat you like a king and be very jealous regardless of age. Girls that have been with lots of americans and come from well off families will not regardless. There always exceptions to the rules of course
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[QUOTE=X Man]As for the Robbaf story, was that an older woman? I don't remember that. When I read the story I couldn't help wonder if the husband knew and approved the situation. [/QUOTE]
She is 24 years old and he didn't ask her if her husband knew.
Robb
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]Sure a good meal is going to cost you, but I assume she suggested the place because the guy is a newbie, so what are the chances that this girl frequents the place. We've all had girls suggested the most upscale hotels restaurants etc. Even though its clear they haven''t ever set foot in the place before. You never ever let the girl make the call how things are going to B. I assume that the goal is to get laid.[/QUOTE]Well actually I choose to dine at the shangri La makati, because I like it, and I wanted to give her a nice treat.
Indeed I am a newbie and I didn't get laid!
I'm going back to europe next week, so I'll try to score one last DIA meeting and see how that goes!
Getting laid would have been a nice bonus, but the point was to meet a girl with a different profile than the usual pick up from LA café or Burgos from which I've grown tired!
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[QUOTE=X Man]
Thanks for the posts Red...umm..Kilt[/QUOTE]
For X Man
Red..umm Kilt doesn't mean anything. Nothing scottish. Nothing red LOL. It was the name of a good racehorse that my Dad and I owned many years ago. Just seemed like a good name.
Having cleared that up.... Thanks for your posts X Man. You write well and you usually make a lot of sense. Most of your posts have good information.
I agree about the older women being a good experience but be assured Pimpster, they are not manipulating me. Absolutely NO strings, by mutual agreement, and it is merely a "rocks-off" arrangement. I have lived and worked in Manila for 13 years now, so I am battle-scarred and savvy about every trick in the book that can be pulled.
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[QUOTE=X Man]i am simple and nice woman looking for a good and nice man...
** Okay, you've heard that before. Now if you really want to visit her profile at DIA....
...let me give you her handle...
... are you ready for this???...
"fuckingshit"
Yep, you can be sure this is a really 'nice' one.
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Haha this is a classic.
So many contradictory profiles and handles and photos on DIA.
I love the women who say they are "simple, God-fearing, one-man woman, wholesome ...etc" and looking for an "honest.sincere, trustworthy family man..etc" and then they post a photo with the sexy pose and 3/4 of their boobs hanging out to hook anyone who passes by.
They just do not see the contradiction here nor the message they are sending.
X Man's example above is another instance of this naivety
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Wrong Pimpster. She asked me if she could see me in my hotel just last week and the rest is history. She is a very sexy and classy 40 yo; really enjoyed it all, and no strings attached. So I am NOT wasting my time, and I enjoyed the thrill of the hunt too.
Why? Because I can. And I can afford it too. My choice.
Some of us guys here (well, me anyway) don't like the young 20 somethings. I much prefer an older more mature woman any day. No complications or hang-ups, and they are discreet too (I am working in her town and need to be careful). I also have some scruples about banging anyone younger than my daughter.
That's just me. Thanks anyway for trying to disabuse me of my interest.[/QUOTE]Hi. Well having a daughter who is in late teens I totally understand the posted comment. I realised that slowly but surely my agre requirement is getting older. Probalby for the fact that I also don't want anyone younger than my daughter.
Was in BKK reccently (report posted) and had 3 freebies, one 30, one 32 and one 36. Two were interested in 3 somes (which I will sort out on nexct trip there, two were happy to bang next to hotel windows allowing the voyeurs lots of thrills, and all were hot and wonderfully inhibited, but experienced in what a man wants. Sometimes older is most definately better. Having said that theres a 20 year old Filipina virgin I'm hoping to have on my next trip. Its good to be flexible LOL
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"Make sense?"
Stop dude, you're going to totally ruin my reputation. Some ISG members have spent years painting me black, you shouldn't make their hard work for nought.
Oh, wait..he adds words like "usually" and "most". A lot of room for retraction...bless RedKilt's heart.
Thirteen years, but I doubt you are savvy about every trick in the book.
Maybe you should write, "...ALMOST every trick in the book."
X
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]For X Man
SNIP
X Man. You write well and you usually make a lot of sense. Most of your posts have good information.
I agree about the older women being a good experience but be assured Pimpster, they are not manipulating me. Absolutely NO strings, by mutual agreement, and it is merely a "rocks-off" arrangement. I have lived and worked in Manila for 13 years now, so I am battle-scarred and savvy about every trick in the book that can be pulled.[/QUOTE]
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First Date--DIA Style
in the past few months living in manila, i’ve met quite a few gals on dia. they all have either a respectable but low paying job (call center, factory, convenience store, fast food joint, domestic helper) or do not have a job. all of them are in their 20s and live with their immediate family or with a relative (an auntie, cousin, grandparent). a few live fairly central (mandaluyong, pasay, paranaque) and a few live further afield (caloocan, cavite, novaliches).
when i meet a dia gal for a first date, i enjoy creating the semi-fiction of normal ‘courtship’, where nothing is a given and everything depends on polite, respectful, gentlemanly behavior, supplemented by physical chemistry. with that in mind, i invite the gal for a drink and/or dinner, in a nice, ‘upmarket’ place, eg greenbelt or the fort. perhaps this is not necessary, given the socio-economic group of the typical dia gal we mongers tend to target, but it is more in keeping with my style and comfort zone.
to be sure, the specific details of my dia first dates do vary, and, believe me, i’ve had my share of disappointing non-starters. however, a fairly typical first date goes something like this:
after numerous texts back and forth to confirm the meeting time and place, and to find out where the hell she is (yes, she is usually late!), she shows up within 45 minutes of the agreed upon time. we spot each other, and i introduce myself, shake her hand, and make a mental note of how accurate her dia profile photo is. i decide that while her photo does indeed put her in ‘best light’, she is attractive and slim enough to warrant at least one nice evening together.
we order drinks and settle into the usual get-to-know-you sequence of topics and questions. i show interest in her work, family and hobbies, asking lots of questions. i am mildly, though not aggressively, flirtatious--especially if i want to get to know her, er… more intimately.
eventually i suggest we have something to eat—and i encourage her to order whatever she wants (another mental note if she decides to order the most expensive dish on the menu). we eat, and i engage her in more talking, more topics, more flirting, and a little ‘innocent’ touching… the knee, the shoulder, the arm… just to let her know i’m interested.
a few hours pass pleasantly… a bottle of wine and/or a few san migs do their work. it gets toward the witching hour and i suggest we go back to my condo in makati for a coffee. she hesitates slightly, then says something like, ‘well, ok a coffee is nice.’ we head off for a taxi, and i take her hand as we walk.
i sit close to her in the taxi and ever so gently rest my hand on her knee. we get to my place… and as we enter the lobby of my bldg i hold her hand very firmly; i want her to feel like my gf in the gaze of the bldg security lads. walking toward the elevator, i make it a point to chat with her casually, as if we both live there. i avoid direct eye contact with the lads in the lobby—who have seen me do the same dance with several other gals in the past couple of months. we get to my unit on the 38th floor and i enjoy the widening of her eyes as she steps in the door and is greeted by the twinkling makati skyline. i beckon her to the balcony, open the door and we step out to embrace the night view. i point out a few of the makati landmarks. i can see she is impressed, and this is good.
back inside, i tell her to have a seat on the sofa while i make some coffee. i turn on the tv, give her the remote wand and tell her to turn on whatever she wants. i don’t particularly want to watch tv, but it's a simple way for us to get close and cuddly, while still having a comfy external focus. i bring the coffee, with some chocolate—a sure entry into the filipina heart—and sit myself down next to her! we pretend to watch tv and little by little we reposition so it’s easy for her to rest her head on my shoulder, which, after a little while, she does. i stroke her shoulder and/or knee ever so gently… we’re becoming very relaxed.
by this time, it is quite late and i am (sort of) getting tired. i silently contemplate how to broach the obvious next topic. then i let out a thinly veiled yawn, followed by something like, ‘hmmm, it’s getting late and you look so tired. you’re very welcome to spend the night here rather than try to get a taxi at this late hour… don’t worry, you can sleep on my bed and i’ll take the sofa… really, it’s no problem for me, and you can be comfortable that way.’
she furrows her brow and doesn’t answer immediately… then says, unconvincingly, something like, ‘no, you need your sleep in your bed… you can sleep now and i just rest a little on the sofa. it’s ok, i just go home in a few hours, no problem for me.’ i tell her that as a gentleman, i couldn’t allow that… she must have the bed so she can rest more comfortably. we go back and forth a bit until, predictably, i give in. i invite her to use the bathroom. while she is in the bathroom, i make up the sofa with sheets and a pillow, then remove any ‘valuables’ (wallet, laptop, ipod, phone, etc.) putting them in a ‘safe’ place in my bedroom closet (yes, of course, i trust her, but as the arabs say, ‘trust in god, but tether your camel first’).
she comes out of the bathroom and is impressed that the sofa is so nicely made up for her. i kiss her on the cheek, tell her to help herself to anything in the fridge during the night and wish her ‘sweet dreams. i go into my bedroom, but leave the door open. she is no doubt confused as she’s not used to such courteous behavior from a man.
i change into a pair of shorts (no underwear and no shirt), put two condoms discreetly under a book on my bedside table (i want to make it easy when the inevitable happens), get into bed and turn out the light.
after about 45 minutes, i hear a rustle of sheets in the other room, a few soft footsteps and then see her silhouette as she comes into my room, fully clothed. she says something like, ‘i’m scared there by myself’ and lies down on the bed a ‘safe’ distance from me. i gently reach over, touch her cheek, say sleep well, and make no attempt to move closer to her… yet.
we feign sleep, with each toss and turn, somehow bringing us a bit closer to each other. i lightly drape my arm over her hip; she edges over toward me and allows her hand to touch my leg. we enjoy this slumberous dance silently for a while longer. eventually, we’re spooning snugly, with my arm wrapped over her and my hand lightly resting on her breast.
i gently kiss her neck, and she moans softly while allowing her bum to press against my now rising manhood. she turns her face toward me and our lips seem to be almost touching now. i offer a brief kiss, a peck really, half on her mouth and half on her cheek. then our mouths open and we kiss again. our tongues meet, and our legs entwine. clothes come off quickly, and from this point, all is predictably passionate. i selflessly extend the foreplay to pleasure her as long as it takes to get her where i want her, and then a little longer. when the moment of entry arrives, she attempts to guide me in uncovered (yes, in my experience non p4p gals are more likely to go bb), until i, as smoothly as possible, halt the proceedings briefly to cover up. all is then well.
we sleep soundly until the stirrings of daylight, then we undulate into round two… in similar fashion as in round one, minus the extended foreplay.
i get up first, have a shower, wrap a towel around me, and make a pot of tea. she is still asleep, so i whisper in her ear ‘magandang umaga’, wait for her to open her eyes and show some life, then hand her a steaming mug, black with sugar. once again, she is impressed at the thoughtful service. and though it is truly a pleasure for me to treat her this way, i am at least partly motivated by my desire to get her up and out of my place in good time so my whole day is not shot. as charlie sheen, the actor who was caught up in a much publicized p4p scandal, replied to a nosy reporter enquiring why he would need to pay for sex, ‘i’m not paying them for the sex, i’m paying for them to leave in the morning.’
i tell her she can have a shower, and ask her what she would like for breakfast. she at first refuses the offer, but i insist, telling her she must eat something before she goes. the choices are cereal with milk, toast and jam, eggs, and/or fruit. she opts for a slice of toast (which my informal mental survey tells me is the most common dia morning-after-first-date breakfast choice).
i make the breakfast while she showers, gets dressed, and to my non-surprise, but nonetheless delight, makes the bed herself with hotel-like precision. i thank her for that and tell her to sit down for breakfast. we chat about this and that while we eat. i tell her that it would be my pleasure to see again, but carefully avoid suggesting any specific dates.
when she’s finished, i tell her i will walk her outside to get a taxi, and as i do, i stuff a few hundred pesos into her pocket or bag and tell her this is for her to get home. she doesn’t object or refuse, and offers a simple but sincere sounding ‘thank you’.
as we leave the building through the lobby, once again, i hold her hand and talk to her casually walking past the security lads, who are mercifully different from the night before. we hail a taxi, and as she gets in, i kiss her on the cheek, and tell her to take care and keep in touch. a few minutes after i get back to my apartment i get a text from her. she thanks me for a nice night and hopes we can meet again soon. i text her back immediately, saying i hope so too.
manta ray
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Manta Ray, if you aren't already an old fk, I'd say you have a future in writing. Well written, interesting, informative - and best of all, you got some stinky on your dinky before the story was finished!
Minor quips, I'd initiate the touching and hand holding much sooner than you suggest. Gals who react as if they had an electrical shock probably aren't worth pursuing. But, maybe that is just my own self-fulfilling prophesy.
Alcohol...hmmm, many don't drink. What do you do then? Hmmm, most don't drink coffee either.
Not mentioned, but probably on the MRay radar is how close she sits next to you in the taxi. Since MRay had casually put his hand on her knee, I'll assume that she didn't scoot over too far (assuming you both got in on the same side, which is the norm).
As for giving her the couch, I hope you take a bag of ice to cool down your hard on -- just in case she falls asleep from the alcohol.
And for newcomers who will likely be in a hotel room, you can achieve similar results -- using charm -- without a seperate room with a couch and without evening coffee.
Thanks for the interesting post MR.
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[QUOTE=Manta Ray] ,,When I meet a DIA gal for a first date, I enjoy creating the semi-fiction of normal ‘courtship’, where nothing is a given and everything depends on polite, respectful, gentlemanly behavior, supplemented by physical chemistry....To be sure, the specific details of my DIA first dates do vary, and, believe me, I’ve had my share of disappointing non-starters...[/QUOTE]
That was quite a description of your modus operandi! I am a little perplexed, as it seems that the entire couch scenario/you going to bed alone is entirely unnecessary if sex is your objective, because at that moment, I am certain you could start kissing her and end up in bed, but obviously you enjoy doing it this way.
I have only been to Manila once, I only had one DIA girl and she was in bed with me within a few minutes after arrival. Then again, my DIA profile states that I like having a lot of sex (its meant to intimidate the girls who are ONLY looking for a husband). Nevertheless, I had a few girls who simply were no shows, and I am certain they would have shown if I had been gentlemanly and not mentioned sex in our communications.
I am curious about your percent success: how many of these DIA girls do NOT go to bed with you on night one?
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[QUOTE=Manta Ray]In the past few months living in Manila, I’ve met quite a few gals on DIA. They all have either a respectable but low paying job (call center, factory, convenience store, fast food joint, domestic helper) or do not have a job. All of them are in their 20s and live with their immediate family or with a relative (an auntie, cousin, grandparent). A few live fairly central (Mandaluyong, Pasay, Paranaque) and a few live further afield (Caloocan, Cavite, Novaliches).Manta Ray[/QUOTE]
Manta,
Correction, a call center job in the PI is one of the best and well paid jobs the average girl could hope to land and it provides alot of Pisos to support the family back in the Province. It might be low compensation compaired to western pay, but for them it is a very good job.
I also think you put too much effort into your "date", and you could get the same results without all the seduction techniques that western women require, but hey, whatever floats your boat.
A good report and an interesting change of pace.
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lol
wowwwwwww....all that effort! i usually just ask 'em if they wanna fuck and have me blow my load all over their pretty face. gets the same result, i would expect.
[quote=manta ray]in the past few months living in manila, i’ve met quite a few gals on dia. they all have either a respectable but low paying job (call center, factory, convenience store, fast food joint, domestic helper) or do not have a job. all of them are in their 20s and live with their immediate family or with a relative (an auntie, cousin, grandparent). a few live fairly central (mandaluyong, pasay, paranaque) and a few live further afield (caloocan, cavite, novaliches).
when i meet a dia gal for a first date, i enjoy creating the semi-fiction of normal ‘courtship’, where nothing is a given and everything depends on polite, respectful, gentlemanly behavior, supplemented by physical chemistry. with that in mind, i invite the gal for a drink and/or dinner, in a nice, ‘upmarket’ place, eg greenbelt or the fort. perhaps this is not necessary, given the socio-economic group of the typical dia gal we mongers tend to target, but it is more in keeping with my style and comfort zone.
to be sure, the specific details of my dia first dates do vary, and, believe me, i’ve had my share of disappointing non-starters. however, a fairly typical first date goes something like this:
after numerous texts back and forth to confirm the meeting time and place, and to find out where the hell she is (yes, she is usually late!), she shows up within 45 minutes of the agreed upon time. we spot each other, and i introduce myself, shake her hand, and make a mental note of how accurate her dia profile photo is. i decide that while her photo does indeed put her in ‘best light’, she is attractive and slim enough to warrant at least one nice evening together.
we order drinks and settle into the usual get-to-know-you sequence of topics and questions. i show interest in her work, family and hobbies, asking lots of questions. i am mildly, though not aggressively, flirtatious--especially if i want to get to know her, er… more intimately.
eventually i suggest we have something to eat—and i encourage her to order whatever she wants (another mental note if she decides to order the most expensive dish on the menu). we eat, and i engage her in more talking, more topics, more flirting, and a little ‘innocent’ touching… the knee, the shoulder, the arm… just to let her know i’m interested.
a few hours pass pleasantly… a bottle of wine and/or a few san migs do their work. it gets toward the witching hour and i suggest we go back to my condo in makati for a coffee. she hesitates slightly, then says something like, ‘well, ok a coffee is nice.’ we head off for a taxi, and i take her hand as we walk.
i sit close to her in the taxi and ever so gently rest my hand on her knee. we get to my place… and as we enter the lobby of my bldg i hold her hand very firmly; i want her to feel like my gf in the gaze of the bldg security lads. walking toward the elevator, i make it a point to chat with her casually, as if we both live there. i avoid direct eye contact with the lads in the lobby—who have seen me do the same dance with several other gals in the past couple of months. we get to my unit on the 38th floor and i enjoy the widening of her eyes as she steps in the door and is greeted by the twinkling makati skyline. i beckon her to the balcony, open the door and we step out to embrace the night view. i point out a few of the makati landmarks. i can see she is impressed, and this is good.
back inside, i tell her to have a seat on the sofa while i make some coffee. i turn on the tv, give her the remote wand and tell her to turn on whatever she wants. i don’t particularly want to watch tv, but it's a simple way for us to get close and cuddly, while still having a comfy external focus. i bring the coffee, with some chocolate—a sure entry into the filipina heart—and sit myself down next to her! we pretend to watch tv and little by little we reposition so it’s easy for her to rest her head on my shoulder, which, after a little while, she does. i stroke her shoulder and/or knee ever so gently… we’re becoming very relaxed.
by this time, it is quite late and i am (sort of) getting tired. i silently contemplate how to broach the obvious next topic. then i let out a thinly veiled yawn, followed by something like, ‘hmmm, it’s getting late and you look so tired. you’re very welcome to spend the night here rather than try to get a taxi at this late hour… don’t worry, you can sleep on my bed and i’ll take the sofa… really, it’s no problem for me, and you can be comfortable that way.’
she furrows her brow and doesn’t answer immediately… then says, unconvincingly, something like, ‘no, you need your sleep in your bed… you can sleep now and i just rest a little on the sofa. it’s ok, i just go home in a few hours, no problem for me.’ i tell her that as a gentleman, i couldn’t allow that… she must have the bed so she can rest more comfortably. we go back and forth a bit until, predictably, i give in. i invite her to use the bathroom. while she is in the bathroom, i make up the sofa with sheets and a pillow, then remove any ‘valuables’ (wallet, laptop, ipod, phone, etc.) putting them in a ‘safe’ place in my bedroom closet (yes, of course, i trust her, but as the arabs say, ‘trust in god, but tether your camel first’).
she comes out of the bathroom and is impressed that the sofa is so nicely made up for her. i kiss her on the cheek, tell her to help herself to anything in the fridge during the night and wish her ‘sweet dreams. i go into my bedroom, but leave the door open. she is no doubt confused as she’s not used to such courteous behavior from a man.
i change into a pair of shorts (no underwear and no shirt), put two condoms discreetly under a book on my bedside table (i want to make it easy when the inevitable happens), get into bed and turn out the light.
after about 45 minutes, i hear a rustle of sheets in the other room, a few soft footsteps and then see her silhouette as she comes into my room, fully clothed. she says something like, ‘i’m scared there by myself’ and lies down on the bed a ‘safe’ distance from me. i gently reach over, touch her cheek, say sleep well, and make no attempt to move closer to her… yet.
we feign sleep, with each toss and turn, somehow bringing us a bit closer to each other. i lightly drape my arm over her hip; she edges over toward me and allows her hand to touch my leg. we enjoy this slumberous dance silently for a while longer. eventually, we’re spooning snugly, with my arm wrapped over her and my hand lightly resting on her breast.
i gently kiss her neck, and she moans softly while allowing her bum to press against my now rising manhood. she turns her face toward me and our lips seem to be almost touching now. i offer a brief kiss, a peck really, half on her mouth and half on her cheek. then our mouths open and we kiss again. our tongues meet, and our legs entwine. clothes come off quickly, and from this point, all is predictably passionate. i selflessly extend the foreplay to pleasure her as long as it takes to get her where i want her, and then a little longer. when the moment of entry arrives, she attempts to guide me in uncovered (yes, in my experience non p4p gals are more likely to go bb), until i, as smoothly as possible, halt the proceedings briefly to cover up. all is then well.
we sleep soundly until the stirrings of daylight, then we undulate into round two… in similar fashion as in round one, minus the extended foreplay.
i get up first, have a shower, wrap a towel around me, and make a pot of tea. she is still asleep, so i whisper in her ear ‘magandang umaga’, wait for her to open her eyes and show some life, then hand her a steaming mug, black with sugar. once again, she is impressed at the thoughtful service. and though it is truly a pleasure for me to treat her this way, i am at least partly motivated by my desire to get her up and out of my place in good time so my whole day is not shot. as charlie sheen, the actor who was caught up in a much publicized p4p scandal, replied to a nosy reporter enquiring why he would need to pay for sex, ‘i’m not paying them for the sex, i’m paying for them to leave in the morning.’
i tell her she can have a shower, and ask her what she would like for breakfast. she at first refuses the offer, but i insist, telling her she must eat something before she goes. the choices are cereal with milk, toast and jam, eggs, and/or fruit. she opts for a slice of toast (which my informal mental survey tells me is the most common dia morning-after-first-date breakfast choice).
i make the breakfast while she showers, gets dressed, and to my non-surprise, but nonetheless delight, makes the bed herself with hotel-like precision. i thank her for that and tell her to sit down for breakfast. we chat about this and that while we eat. i tell her that it would be my pleasure to see again, but carefully avoid suggesting any specific dates.
when she’s finished, i tell her i will walk her outside to get a taxi, and as i do, i stuff a few hundred pesos into her pocket or bag and tell her this is for her to get home. she doesn’t object or refuse, and offers a simple but sincere sounding ‘thank you’.
as we leave the building through the lobby, once again, i hold her hand and talk to her casually walking past the security lads, who are mercifully different from the night before. we hail a taxi, and as she gets in, i kiss her on the cheek, and tell her to take care and keep in touch. a few minutes after i get back to my apartment i get a text from her. she thanks me for a nice night and hopes we can meet again soon. i text her back immediately, saying i hope so too.
manta ray[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Well actually I choose to dine at the shangri La makati, because I like it, and I wanted to give her a nice treat.
Indeed I am a newbie and I didn't get laid!
I'm going back to europe next week, so I'll try to score one last DIA meeting and see how that goes!
Getting laid would have been a nice bonus, but the point was to meet a girl with a different profile than the usual pick up from LA café or Burgos from which I've grown tired![/QUOTE]
When I read these posts I have to laugh. You didn't get laid??? I would guess around half of the DIA girls work in the bar, or worked in the bar. I keep wondering why a guy would come to the Philippines for a short vacation and put so much effort into the internet girls, when so many beautiful girls, who will fuck you silly, are working in the bars?
JMHO
Robb
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]Wowwwwwww....all that effort![/QUOTE]I knew there was a reason I never bothered with DIA: life is too short!
Charlie Sheen always seems to get credit these days for the line about paying them to go away, but it's been around a lot longer than he has.
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That is an interesting point. Why do you think that 50% of the girls on DIA work or worked in a bar? My own completely random estimate would be more like 5%.
What strategies do you use when you contact various women on this website? I really do not like using Yahoo messenger and all of the women there want to chat with you on yahoo messenger. I did it a few times and I found it very irritating. This was strictly chat without video and I'm thinking that maybe I need to find women who are willing to do video chat and that would be a lot more fun. I've done that now on Gmail a couple of times with my regular girlfriend from the Philippines and we both get a huge kick out of seeing each other. We haven't done phone sex or anything like that but even so, it's a lot of fun. In the case of a new girl that I just met off of the Internet and who may not be verbally sophisticated intellectually or may not have such great English, the addition of the video element may really help. But can I get them to sign up for Gmail video or do I have to go back to Yahoo messenger? Skype also has video but they don't seem to have access to that either.
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DIA Bargirls - Not
I've been in contact with about 50 DIA girls, mostly Phillipines and Thailand,
Have taken out and had relations with about 15. One was a dancer at Vikings
In Cebu (freebie), two were in the massage biz (freebies), and all the others
Were unemployed, sales clerks, factory workers etc. (a few were like freelancers for partime money).
My random sampling does not even come close to 50% but I think it varies by town. Manila seems to be more freelancers. I've even had a "bait and switch". The girl was not at all like the picture but the price was right plus
She was very desparate in order to make that "kind of play".
I always schedule a DIA girl for day or early evening, so if it doesn't work
Out, you can fall back on the pros. Sometimes, it's just better to go with the flow. It can take you to new territory.
Enjoy the game. And always remember that's exactly what it is!
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]That is an interesting point. Why do you think that 50% of the girls on DIA work or worked in a bar? My own completely random estimate would be more like 5%.
What strategies do you use when you contact various women on this website? I really do not like using Yahoo messenger and all of the women there want to chat with you on yahoo messenger. I did it a few times and I found it very irritating. This was strictly chat without video and I'm thinking that maybe I need to find women who are willing to do video chat and that would be a lot more fun. I've done that now on Gmail a couple of times with my regular girlfriend from the Philippines and we both get a huge kick out of seeing each other. We haven't done phone sex or anything like that but even so, it's a lot of fun. In the case of a new girl that I just met off of the Internet and who may not be verbally sophisticated intellectually or may not have such great English, the addition of the video element may really help. But can I get them to sign up for Gmail video or do I have to go back to Yahoo messenger? Skype also has video but they don't seem to have access to that either.[/QUOTE]
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Skype, MSN, Yahoo, or GMail
Cuba,
Many of the girls on the internet are not very technically savvy in the first place. However, that being said, they do seem to have a knack for putting up pages on almost every conceivable social networking or dating site they can find. Most of them use internet cafes to do their surfing, as they can't afford to buy a computer, and have internet service at home. The ones that do, are most likely getting support from at least one or more foreigners. At the net cafes, they may be limited to only the programs loaded on the systems there. If the cafe operator did not install Skype, then they won't have it available to use. Many of them already have multiple e-mail addresses, so I'm sure adding GMail to the list would not bother them. But the fact is that Yahoo Messenger is the most popular chat program available to them.
I have been a long time user of DIA, and have found also that most of the girls want to know my YM so they can chat with me. I guess they prefer immediate reply, rather than having to wait until you login to DIA. I have become irritated with it also. There are times when I just want to surf the net without interruptions. But if I login to YM, I can't do anything without mutiple chat windows opening up constantly. Therefore, I login, but keep my status as invisible. This doesn't stop the girls from sending messages. But most won't if it looks like I'm offline.
Enjoy!
HW
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[QUOTE=Forest]That was quite a description of your modus operandi! I am a little perplexed, as it seems that the entire couch scenario/you going to bed alone is entirely unnecessary if sex is your objective, because at that moment, I am certain you could start kissing her and end up in bed, but obviously you enjoy doing it this way.
I have only been to Manila once, I only had one DIA girl and she was in bed with me within a few minutes after arrival. Then again, my DIA profile states that I like having a lot of sex (its meant to intimidate the girls who are ONLY looking for a husband). Nevertheless, I had a few girls who simply were no shows, and I am certain they would have shown if I had been gentlemanly and not mentioned sex in our communications.
I am curious about your percent success: how many of these DIA girls do NOT go to bed with you on night one?[/QUOTE]
As you surmise, for me the whole evening is not about 'necessity', or about achieving the objective in the shortest time frame or most direct route possible. Like most western guys living in Manila with a good salary and a nice condo, I can get laid pretty much anytime I want within 30 minutes of sending an sms to one of the half-dozen gals I regularly see, or walking 10 minutes to Burgos and hitting one of my regular bars. And yes, there are many an evening when that is exactly what I do.
As for the sofa scenario, yes, I could indeed just start kissing her right there, get her panties off and guide her to the bed, all within a few minutes of getting her into my condo unit. However, I do find that, on occasion, it is somehow deliciously seductive to stretch out the various phases of the evening so that the slowly building anticipation almost becomes its own reward.
As for my success rate, i.e. shagging a DIA gal on the first date following my descriptive guidelines above, I would say it is thus far around 75%.
Manta Ray
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MR modus operandi
I can see the attraction of strewtching out the seduction for a guy living in phils where generally seduction is if anything too easy. Do you find that some of these girls get totally seduced. You seem to trteatthem, so well that i can imagine that some become irritatingly demanding of follow up sessions?
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Ym
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]That is an interesting point. Why do you think that 50% of the girls on DIA work or worked in a bar? My own completely random estimate would be more like 5%.
What strategies do you use when you contact various women on this website? I really do not like using Yahoo messenger and all of the women there want to chat with you on yahoo messenger. I did it a few times and I found it very irritating. This was strictly chat without video and I'm thinking that maybe I need to find women who are willing to do video chat and that would be a lot more fun. I've done that now on Gmail a couple of times with my regular girlfriend from the Philippines and we both get a huge kick out of seeing each other. We haven't done phone sex or anything like that but even so, it's a lot of fun. In the case of a new girl that I just met off of the Internet and who may not be verbally sophisticated intellectually or may not have such great English, the addition of the video element may really help. But can I get them to sign up for Gmail video or do I have to go back to Yahoo messenger? Skype also has video but they don't seem to have access to that either.[/QUOTE]
10% would be my guess re working in bars.
YNM is the near universal standard messenger in the Phils. If a girl uses skype of gmail or MSn etc you can be 90% sure shes had a previous serious foreign bf. I dont understanjd what your problem with YM is ? I prefer it to MSN and the video works reasonably well. I think you mst be diligent about remaing your contacts in a systematic way or you will get very confused. Probably also sensible to rutlessly delete scammers and flakes etc
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Facebook
Facebook seems to be rapidly replacing Friendster as the preferred social network site for college level Filipinas. has anyone figured an efficient methodology for using it to search for prospects?
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Excellent observation & question!
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Facebook seems to be rapidly replacing Friendster as the preferred social network site for college level Filipinas. has anyone figured an efficient methodology for using it to search for prospects?[/QUOTE]I have been trying to find a way to search FB more efficiently myself. Seems like there are numerous groups but such an inefficient way to search. Would like to hear of better ways. By the way I will be in Cebu City from 4-23 to 5-6.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Facebook seems to be rapidly replacing Friendster as the preferred social network site for college level Filipinas. has anyone figured an efficient methodology for using it to search for prospects?[/QUOTE]
Try Tagged. You can search any region in the philippines. I've been chatting with a few I've met there but I quickly become bored with that line of pursuit because it's so time consuming. I prefer just meeting women when I'm out and about in the Philippines.
YM
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Facebook
[QUOTE=Yella Man]Try Tagged. You can search any region in the philippines. I've been chatting with a few I've met there but I quickly become bored with that line of pursuit because it's so time consuming. I prefer just meeting women when I'm out and about in the Philippines.
YM[/QUOTE]
Actually i use tagged and had quite a bit of luck with it. My reason for taking an interest in Facebook is that Id like to get more exposure to more educated girls. Im tired of the confusion and lack of interesting conversation with the mostly high school educated types predominating on DIA. Facebook unlike Tagged has been specifically designed to make it relatively difficult to hunt for girls. I used it with quite a bit of success in Ethiopia to contact high end uni girls. The key was to find one or two very well connected girls recently or currently at the leading colleges unis and then go through their friends lists adding as friends interesting looking prospects. Its a relatively time consuming process and may simply not be worth it in the context of the Phils. It was useful in Ethiopia as the average girls could hardly speak any English at all
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FB usage
Actually in other SEA countries just joining local facebook groups gets you a fair amount of messages from local girls. Not sure if it's the same in the Phils.
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[quote=manta ray]in the past few months living in manila, i’ve met quite a few gals on dia. they all have either a respectable but low paying job (call center, factory, convenience store, fast food joint, domestic helper) or do not have a job. all of them are in their 20s and live with their immediate family or with a relative (an auntie, cousin, grandparent). a few live fairly central (mandaluyong, pasay, paranaque) and a few live further afield (caloocan, cavite, novaliches).
when i meet a dia gal for a first date, i enjoy creating the semi-fiction of normal ‘courtship’, where nothing is a given and everything depends on polite, respectful, gentlemanly behavior, supplemented by physical chemistry. with that in mind, i invite the gal for a drink and/or dinner, in a nice, ‘upmarket’ place, eg greenbelt or the fort. perhaps this is not necessary, given the socio-economic group of the typical dia gal we mongers tend to target, but it is more in keeping with my style and comfort zone.
to be sure, the specific details of my dia first dates do vary, and, believe me, i’ve had my share of disappointing non-starters. however, a fairly typical first date goes something like this:
after numerous texts back and forth to confirm the meeting time and place, and to find out where the hell she is (yes, she is usually late!), she shows up within 45 minutes of the agreed upon time. we spot each other, and i introduce myself, shake her hand, and make a mental note of how accurate her dia profile photo is. i decide that while her photo does indeed put her in ‘best light’, she is attractive and slim enough to warrant at least one nice evening together.
we order drinks and settle into the usual get-to-know-you sequence of topics and questions. i show interest in her work, family and hobbies, asking lots of questions. i am mildly, though not aggressively, flirtatious--especially if i want to get to know her, er… more intimately.
eventually i suggest we have something to eat—and i encourage her to order whatever she wants (another mental note if she decides to order the most expensive dish on the menu). we eat, and i engage her in more talking, more topics, more flirting, and a little ‘innocent’ touching… the knee, the shoulder, the arm… just to let her know i’m interested.
a few hours pass pleasantly… a bottle of wine and/or a few san migs do their work. it gets toward the witching hour and i suggest we go back to my condo in makati for a coffee. she hesitates slightly, then says something like, ‘well, ok a coffee is nice.’ we head off for a taxi, and i take her hand as we walk.
i sit close to her in the taxi and ever so gently rest my hand on her knee. we get to my place… and as we enter the lobby of my bldg i hold her hand very firmly; i want her to feel like my gf in the gaze of the bldg security lads. walking toward the elevator, i make it a point to chat with her casually, as if we both live there. i avoid direct eye contact with the lads in the lobby—who have seen me do the same dance with several other gals in the past couple of months. we get to my unit on the 38th floor and i enjoy the widening of her eyes as she steps in the door and is greeted by the twinkling makati skyline. i beckon her to the balcony, open the door and we step out to embrace the night view. i point out a few of the makati landmarks. i can see she is impressed, and this is good.
back inside, i tell her to have a seat on the sofa while i make some coffee. i turn on the tv, give her the remote wand and tell her to turn on whatever she wants. i don’t particularly want to watch tv, but it's a simple way for us to get close and cuddly, while still having a comfy external focus. i bring the coffee, with some chocolate—a sure entry into the filipina heart—and sit myself down next to her! we pretend to watch tv and little by little we reposition so it’s easy for her to rest her head on my shoulder, which, after a little while, she does. i stroke her shoulder and/or knee ever so gently… we’re becoming very relaxed.
by this time, it is quite late and i am (sort of) getting tired. i silently contemplate how to broach the obvious next topic. then i let out a thinly veiled yawn, followed by something like, ‘hmmm, it’s getting late and you look so tired. you’re very welcome to spend the night here rather than try to get a taxi at this late hour… don’t worry, you can sleep on my bed and i’ll take the sofa… really, it’s no problem for me, and you can be comfortable that way.’
she furrows her brow and doesn’t answer immediately… then says, unconvincingly, something like, ‘no, you need your sleep in your bed… you can sleep now and i just rest a little on the sofa. it’s ok, i just go home in a few hours, no problem for me.’ i tell her that as a gentleman, i couldn’t allow that… she must have the bed so she can rest more comfortably. we go back and forth a bit until, predictably, i give in. i invite her to use the bathroom. while she is in the bathroom, i make up the sofa with sheets and a pillow, then remove any ‘valuables’ (wallet, laptop, ipod, phone, etc.) putting them in a ‘safe’ place in my bedroom closet (yes, of course, i trust her, but as the arabs say, ‘trust in god, but tether your camel first’).
she comes out of the bathroom and is impressed that the sofa is so nicely made up for her. i kiss her on the cheek, tell her to help herself to anything in the fridge during the night and wish her ‘sweet dreams. i go into my bedroom, but leave the door open. she is no doubt confused as she’s not used to such courteous behavior from a man.
i change into a pair of shorts (no underwear and no shirt), put two condoms discreetly under a book on my bedside table (i want to make it easy when the inevitable happens), get into bed and turn out the light.
after about 45 minutes, i hear a rustle of sheets in the other room, a few soft footsteps and then see her silhouette as she comes into my room, fully clothed. she says something like, ‘i’m scared there by myself’ and lies down on the bed a ‘safe’ distance from me. i gently reach over, touch her cheek, say sleep well, and make no attempt to move closer to her… yet.
we feign sleep, with each toss and turn, somehow bringing us a bit closer to each other. i lightly drape my arm over her hip; she edges over toward me and allows her hand to touch my leg. we enjoy this slumberous dance silently for a while longer. eventually, we’re spooning snugly, with my arm wrapped over her and my hand lightly resting on her breast.
i gently kiss her neck, and she moans softly while allowing her bum to press against my now rising manhood. she turns her face toward me and our lips seem to be almost touching now. i offer a brief kiss, a peck really, half on her mouth and half on her cheek. then our mouths open and we kiss again. our tongues meet, and our legs entwine. clothes come off quickly, and from this point, all is predictably passionate. i selflessly extend the foreplay to pleasure her as long as it takes to get her where i want her, and then a little longer. when the moment of entry arrives, she attempts to guide me in uncovered (yes, in my experience non p4p gals are more likely to go bb), until i, as smoothly as possible, halt the proceedings briefly to cover up. all is then well.
we sleep soundly until the stirrings of daylight, then we undulate into round two… in similar fashion as in round one, minus the extended foreplay.
i get up first, have a shower, wrap a towel around me, and make a pot of tea. she is still asleep, so i whisper in her ear ‘magandang umaga’, wait for her to open her eyes and show some life, then hand her a steaming mug, black with sugar. once again, she is impressed at the thoughtful service. and though it is truly a pleasure for me to treat her this way, i am at least partly motivated by my desire to get her up and out of my place in good time so my whole day is not shot. as charlie sheen, the actor who was caught up in a much publicized p4p scandal, replied to a nosy reporter enquiring why he would need to pay for sex, ‘i’m not paying them for the sex, i’m paying for them to leave in the morning.’
i tell her she can have a shower, and ask her what she would like for breakfast. she at first refuses the offer, but i insist, telling her she must eat something before she goes. the choices are cereal with milk, toast and jam, eggs, and/or fruit. she opts for a slice of toast (which my informal mental survey tells me is the most common dia morning-after-first-date breakfast choice).
i make the breakfast while she showers, gets dressed, and to my non-surprise, but nonetheless delight, makes the bed herself with hotel-like precision. i thank her for that and tell her to sit down for breakfast. we chat about this and that while we eat. i tell her that it would be my pleasure to see again, but carefully avoid suggesting any specific dates.
when she’s finished, i tell her i will walk her outside to get a taxi, and as i do, i stuff a few hundred pesos into her pocket or bag and tell her this is for her to get home. she doesn’t object or refuse, and offers a simple but sincere sounding ‘thank you’.
as we leave the building through the lobby, once again, i hold her hand and talk to her casually walking past the security lads, who are mercifully different from the night before. we hail a taxi, and as she gets in, i kiss her on the cheek, and tell her to take care and keep in touch. a few minutes after i get back to my apartment i get a text from her. she thanks me for a nice night and hopes we can meet again soon. i text her back immediately, saying i hope so too.
manta ray[/quote]and i would say thats pretty much how i do it with the exception that
a) i try to avoid the security guards as much as possible
b) i let mine onto the balocony so they can see the 30th floor view, and usually stand behind pointing out the sights that turns into hug from behind
c) usually initiate a lonbg making out session on the sofa then carry the lady into the bedroom where the book also has the obligatory two conddoms, plus the g spot vibrator, and some ky " just in case".
otherwise have done your scenario multiple times!
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Same question for you FF
And what percentage of the DIA girls you have dated end up fucking you on the first date? (do you state your desire for sex before the date or just date the girls you think are nice?)
Frankly, I think that any DIA girl who comes to your room intends to have sex with you. But, I have an experience of only 1 girl. I think I need to get back to Manila!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]And I would say thats pretty much how I do it with the exception that
A) I try to avoid the security guards as much as possible
B) I let mine onto the balocony so they can see the 30th floor view, and usually stand behind pointing out the sights that turns into hug from behind
C) usually initiate a lonbg making out session on the sofa then carry the lady into the bedroom where the book also has the obligatory two conddoms, plus the G spot vibrator, and some KY " just in case".
Otherwise have done your scenario multiple times![/QUOTE]
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lol
lol...exactly man. I don't live in the Phils, can only visit, thus I don't have half a day to spend turning a date into some kind of drawn out romance, only to not get laid in the end after all. If I lived there I would no doubt be more into the relationship scene but when just visiting I prefer to get right the point...put out or get out...lol! The majority of Filipinas I've been with prefer a more direct, aggressive approach too, and I'm not talking about bar girls or freelancers...I'm refering to chicks I've lined up before visits.
[QUOTE=Betong]I knew there was a reason I never bothered with DIA: life is too short!
Charlie Sheen always seems to get credit these days for the line about paying them to go away, but it's been around a lot longer than he has.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]That is an interesting point. Why do you think that 50% of the girls on DIA work or worked in a bar? My own completely random estimate would be more like 5%.[/QUOTE]
I have used DIA for the last three years and I have met a lot of girls and if you ask them, they will tell you. Go online at 2 to 4 am Philippine time and see how many are online. I would guess at that time about 90% just finished working and didn't get barfined. Last Saturday I met a girl at Silver Dollar in Cebu and she told me that she is working to find a boyfriend and I asked her why she didn't try online and she told me that she has a ad on DIA, but too many guys chat/message her and say they are coming to visit, but never show up.
Robb
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[QUOTE=Yella Man]Try Tagged. You can search any region in the philippines. I've been chatting with a few I've met there but I quickly become bored with that line of pursuit because it's so time consuming. I prefer just meeting women when I'm out and about in the Philippines.
YM[/QUOTE]
Correct YM on Tagged. Only problem that I found is after so many they read the comments left on your page and ask who is that:( and why do you have 500 girl friends on tagged:)
Robb:D
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[QUOTE=Forest]And what percentage of the DIA girls you have dated end up fucking you on the first date? (do you state your desire for sex before the date or just date the girls you think are nice?)
Frankly, I think that any DIA girl who comes to your room intends to have sex with you. But, I have an experience of only 1 girl. I think I need to get back to Manila![/QUOTE]I think its probably about 99%. I never talk about sex with them (so they think I'm a decent guy.). Anyone who walks through my door always has sex.
Quite often after a few drinks or dinner I will suggest we go to my place and in 99% of times theres almost no reaction. Its like they expected it. And if I have a bad vibe about taking them to my place then I take them to Sogo motel. Same difference.
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]she told me that she has a ad on DIA, but too many guys chat/message her and say they are coming to visit, but never show up.[/QUOTE]
Which is just perfect for guys like me that do come into MNL for work as most the girls I've gotten have NEVER meet a guy or had a guy show up in person and my success ratio of nailing them is spot on.
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]Correct YM on Tagged. Only problem that I found is after so many they read the comments left on your page and ask who is that:( and why do you have 500 girl friends on tagged:)
Robb:D[/QUOTE]Or they try contacting your friends and ask " how well do you know him ? ".
That one gets tricky, especailly when you are nailing all of them. LOL
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo]The majority of Filipinas I've been with prefer a more direct, aggressive approach too, and I'm not talking about bar girls or freelancers...I'm refering to chicks I've lined up before visits.[/QUOTE]I think the culture teaches them to be passive, and to go along with a man when he's confident and firm. (Much like Japan, where I grew up.) The aggressive thing isn't my natural style at all, but I've found that whenever I take charge, not only do they go along with it but they even seem to appreciate it. Saves a lot of time too!
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Which is just perfect for guys like me that do come into MNL for work as most the girls I've gotten have NEVER meet a guy or had a guy show up in person and my success ratio of nailing them is spot on.[/QUOTE]
Spot on Tansak.
When they see that I am foreigner AND I live in Manila they go ape shit at the chance to actually meet a foreigner "in the real" (as they say).
I tend to lay low in Manila as I have a profile there.
But my trips to Cebu have to be carefully choreographed to ensure that Girl A doesn't overlap with B, C or D and that's not even considering the repeats that have to be factored in as well LOL
It's a hard life sometimes juggling work and pleasure
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DIA Success rates
My success rate in terms of sex with a girl who agrees to come to my room is quite a bit lower than the 99% quoted by others. Id say maybe 70%. Maybe it's my lack of charm or frightening physical appearance, but it could also be that if possible I prefer to make the initial meeting at my hotel room rather than a mall, restaurant or public place. Clearly you would expect a higher rate from girls you have dined and who have subsequently agreed to return to your hotel/pad than girls who have agreed to meet in the hotel lobby and come straight to your room.
It has to be said that getting alot of success n DIA and the other sites can indeed be a time consuming occupation. Guys with a short holiday and a job which leads then to attach a high opportunity cost to their time may well decide to give it a half hearted attempt and if they don't luck out then fall back on the bar scene. If you are retired and have more free time then it can be alot of fun with loads of wild and wacky experiences.
For example I thought i had finally struck out last night after 5 weeks in the Phils when i just didnt fancy the girl from DIA who showed up, though she was more than willing, so i made an excuse about feeling guilty about cheating on my GF and gave her a generous taxi tip, so I thought i would spend my first night alone. The situation was rescued when there was some banging on my door at 3.30am and a couple of my previous DIA friends staggered in drunk and asked if they could stay the night so I ended up with an exceptionally beautiful 20 year old student and a big boobed and raunchy 18 year old. I did them both before we fell asleep,in the morning they wanted to take some bikini shots around the pool (some of my girls keep their swim wear in my room so I can usually rustle up a couple of bikinis). Thus we ended up having fun in the pool followed by a soapy threesome in the shower, with one of them keeping me company and satisfied until another girl arrives later today.
Unlike some of the guys here I deliberately try to encourage the girls to get to know each other (intimately) so that I don't have to worry about Girl A finding im out with B , C and D etc.
It works well for me at least.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]My success rate in terms of sex with a girl who agrees to come to my room is quite a bit lower than the 99% quoted by others. Id say maybe 70%. Maybe it's my lack of charm or frightening physical appearance, but it could also be that if possible I prefer to make the initial meeting at my hotel room rather than a mall, restaurant or public place. Clearly you would expect a higher rate from girls you have dined and who have subsequently agreed to return to your hotel/pad than girls who have agreed to meet in the hotel lobby and come straight to your room.[/QUOTE]
I would expect the opposite, only reason they should go to room is to go to straight to bed. I come out and pretty much tell them what the rules are.
I came straight out and told the girl meeting me next week on my layover that I have a rule that ladies are only allowed to wear panties on in the room so when she enters the room she needs to take off everything but her panties, her panties can stay on while we get to know each other :D
She immediately knew what her duties would be and the little 18 year old is coming over... if she bails on me, like you I have option 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc.... to go to..
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Don't count on logic
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I would expect the opposite, only reason they should go to room is to go to straight to bed. I come out and pretty much tell them what the rules are.
I came straight out and told the girl meeting me next week on my layover that I have a rule that ladies are only allowed to wear panties on in the room so when she enters the room she needs to take off everything but her panties, her panties can stay on while we get to know each other :D
She immediately knew what her duties would be and the little 18 year old is coming over... if she bails on me, like you I have option 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 etc.... to go to..[/QUOTE]
I think it's a common mistake of guys to apply too much logical analysis to Pinay decision making. I'm counting amongst the 30% girls who I didn't make a try for as either they are less attractive than in photos/cam or LBs etc. Others are naive virgin types who really just want to meet a foreign guy and see what happens but who are not ready toi lose their cherry - and i don't usually apply much persuasion in such cases as i dont want to deal with that.
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geniaesteban at DIA
Geriatric hooter heaven!
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In Tagged you can easily HIDE BOX to the right of "friends". Options are DISPLAY 5 - 10 - 15 etc, or HIDE BOX.
You can also counter the girls asking, since they may have hundreds of friends themselves (I saw one with 30-40000 friends)
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Correct YM on Tagged. Only problem that I found is after so many they read the comments left on your page and ask who is that:( and why do you have 500 girl friends on tagged:)
Robb:D[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]I have used DIA for the last three years and I have met a lot of girls and if you ask them, they will tell you. Go online at 2 to 4 am Philippine time and see how many are online. I would guess at that time about 90% just finished working and didn't get barfined. Last Saturday I met a girl at Silver Dollar in Cebu and she told me that she is working to find a boyfriend and I asked her why she didn't try online and she told me that she has a ad on DIA, but too many guys chat/message her and say they are coming to visit, but never show up.
Robb[/QUOTE]
I have had some girls complaining that their so called BFriends did not show up in spite of repeated calls , messages and sometimes sending money. I think it has everything to do with the country. Once you land in Phi you are in a smorgasboard of available pussies, you are afraid to get stuck with one.
Some maybe afraid trying to get DIA girl to bed is waste of time and energy. I have been guilty of that also. I promised a 18 year old in Cebu that I will spend few days with her but failed to go there. The main reason was although she was willing to stay with me and have sex, she mentioned she wants me to meet her family.
So there are many reasons why many do not make the trip or even when they are there do not make the effort to meet the girls they chat with.
However it is lot of fun to chat with them anyway.
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[QUOTE=Marconista]In Tagged you can easily HIDE BOX to the right of "friends". Options are DISPLAY 5 - 10 - 15 etc, or HIDE BOX.
You can also counter the girls asking, since they may have hundreds of friends themselves (I saw one with 30-40000 friends)[/QUOTE]Maraming Salamat Po!
I know only have 5 friends. How innocent I now look.
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Funny chat
2 years back, got chatting through Friendster with a very enthusiastic BPI employee. We would chat on Saturday mornings and invariably she would get her kit off. That progressed to calls, then a few meetins where again, she would get her kit off and energetic sex pursued. Even took her with me on 2 business trips.
Then I decided shes gettting too clingy.
Shes just started chatting with me again and is now living in Scotland married with a guy who has already had two divorces under his belt.
Shes complaining that the guy no longer pays any attention to her and is frustrated with lack of sex.
Anyways she sweetly asked me if Id had any other girls since her. She said she hoped I hadn't.
I almost fell off my chair. I did a quick calculation and probably its 50 or more since I met her.
Being a gentleman though I replied " well ocassionally its lonely on business trips".
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In Cebu and want C or D cups...
You could do worse than communicate on DIA with Ruthcanoy.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]You could do worse than communicate on DIA with Ruthcanoy.[/QUOTE]
From her profile: "i want to meet a westerner to get married and willing to travel and stay where my possible husband live."
Does that mean she wants to be with you and her Filipino husband also:D
Robb
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Love DIA
Yesterday a bar girl who I have seen for the last years years YM'ed me and told me that she is getting married :eek: and I asked her where she met him and she told me DIA:D And she told me that he doesn't know that she ever worked in the bar. She is 22 and he is 53. Anyone want to take odds on this marriage working???
Robb
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]Yesterday a bar girl who I have seen for the last years years YM'ed me and told me that she is getting married :eek: and I asked her where she met him and she told me DIA:D And she told me that he doesn't know that she ever worked in the bar. She is 22 and he is 53. Anyone want to take odds on this marriage working???
Robb[/QUOTE]
1. Never believe a girl if she is saying she is getting married. i have chatted with few who told me the same thing and sometimes they are going to foreign countries after marriage.
2. Truth is these girls believe anything the guy says. For example if the guy says he wants to marry her and take her to his country, she is like already married and moving in her mind.
3. I remember one really pretty girl got pregnant by a guy in Europe saying he promised to marry her and not to worry about the child. I saw her online after a year complaining she does not have any money and wants to work in the bar to support her child.
She was in high heaven when the guy told her that he would marry her and take her to his country( I will not name the country)
4. Many of these girls are so desparate to meet a foreigner and get out of the country they believe anything the guy says.
Cannot believe till it really happened.
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DIA girls
Anyone else can relate to this?
The girl is nice, I will share with other ISGers who can help her.
hello, are you looking for some $$?
her:sureeeee y not?whre r u ryt now?
how much u want for 3 days with me?
up to you babe just for small shoppings i will be happy for it,whre r u at ryt now?
how much is that 10000?
her: lets talk in yahoo
u still thre?
heres my number-0xxxxxxxxx call me or text me
me:do you do anal?
her:i dont try it,im virgin of it hehe
lets talk in yahoo
u still thre?
Well anyone want to try this one out?
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]My success rate in terms of sex with a girl who agrees to come to my room is quite a bit lower than the 99% quoted by others. Id say maybe 70%. Maybe it's my lack of charm or frightening physical appearance, but it could also be that if possible I prefer to make the initial meeting at my hotel room rather than a mall, restaurant or public place. Clearly you would expect a higher rate from girls you have dined and who have subsequently agreed to return to your hotel/pad than girls who have agreed to meet in the hotel lobby and come straight to your room.
It has to be said that getting alot of success n DIA and the other sites can indeed be a time consuming occupation. Guys with a short holiday and a job which leads then to attach a high opportunity cost to their time may well decide to give it a half hearted attempt and if they don't luck out then fall back on the bar scene. If you are retired and have more free time then it can be alot of fun with loads of wild and wacky experiences.
For example I thought i had finally struck out last night after 5 weeks in the Phils when i just didnt fancy the girl from DIA who showed up, though she was more than willing, so i made an excuse about feeling guilty about cheating on my GF and gave her a generous taxi tip, so I thought i would spend my first night alone. The situation was rescued when there was some banging on my door at 3.30am and a couple of my previous DIA friends staggered in drunk and asked if they could stay the night so I ended up with an exceptionally beautiful 20 year old student and a big boobed and raunchy 18 year old. I did them both before we fell asleep,in the morning they wanted to take some bikini shots around the pool (some of my girls keep their swim wear in my room so I can usually rustle up a couple of bikinis). Thus we ended up having fun in the pool followed by a soapy threesome in the shower, with one of them keeping me company and satisfied until another girl arrives later today.
Unlike some of the guys here I deliberately try to encourage the girls to get to know each other (intimately) so that I don't have to worry about Girl A finding im out with B , C and D etc.
It works well for me at least.[/QUOTE]Hey Greg,
You might want to try some of the pick-up communities favourites. Things like meeting her downstairs to go for a quick beer and "forgetting your camera, would she like to just come up while I get it". Plausible deniability, it just happened :)
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Maybe?
Where is she? How old and how many kilos?
[QUOTE=Gilby]Anyone else can relate to this?
The girl is nice, I will share with other ISGers who can help her.
Hello, are you looking for some $$?
Her: sureeeee y not? Whre are you ryt now?
How much you want for 3 days with me?
Up to you babe just for small shoppings I will be happy for it, whre are you at ryt now?
How much is that 10000?
Her: lets talk in yahoo
U still thre?
Here's my number-0xxxxxxxxx call me or text me
Meo you do anal?
Her: I don't try it, I'm virgin of it hehe
Lets talk in yahoo
U still thre?
Well anyone want to try this one out?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Member #2001]What is DIA?[/QUOTE]
Date in asia
It is a free website anybody can join. Most of the girls are from Philippines with few from Thailand and china.
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[QUOTE=Jack Sheet]Anyone want to take odds the 53 year old male is a regular reader of ISG?[/QUOTE]
Hahahaha Please tell me that isn't true. If he is a board member he should know better:)
Robb
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DIA profile
Check out crazymonstahhh - do you think she realises how suggestive her photo is?
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Yes.
[QUOTE=Taster]Check out crazymonstahhh. Do you think she realises how suggestive her photo is?[/QUOTE]That's too perfect to be an accident. Very nice photo.
Jeebus, check out Samaraaldes from AC on DIA. I least I would only have to support her Aunt! Please tell me I'm not alone in thinking this is a bit strange. She's either completely truthful or has a great imagination. And for a cherry girl working at Jollibees, she sure does know the vernacular.
"like read poket book and chatting, and disco and videoke. I play vollyball and jogging and swimming. I exercising so much my body is strong and nice, not tired. I have no family becuse they die in the fire so I alone now only stay my Atte. I happy they die becuse they no good, they selling drugs and I not like that. They like I sell drugs but I run away. I good girl, quiet and my friends say 'cute' but I no like boom-boom the guy unles he my husbad. So please, no butterfly texting me only wanting lusty. I work Jollibee. I want only serious man, I no like Filipino guy. I still cherry girl. I no experience in the bed, so I need my husbad who respecting me and teach me what to do, but only if he my husbad, then I give my whole body him, anything he like, even my ass becuse my friend say to me many foreigner they like that one, becuse I want to please my husbad 100%. But remember, marriage down before panty down! "
(Snip)
"like my husbad who is kind and he understand me, and love only me. I want sincere and honest man, and looks not important but of course I like handsome guy becuse I young and nice looking and if my husbad he old and ugly maybe people they think I only go with him for the money but that not so even so they think so. Better my husbad be closer my age, young, maybe 25 and 35, or 40, like that, but if he older but also nice and good to me and no lying, who love only me, then maybe old guy is okey. But if I go his country and peple looking me I 'gold-digger' I don't like go there. I hope you understand me. Money is not important me! Only love. "
She does look cute though.
Gonzo
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[QUOTE=Taster]Check out crazymonstahhh - do you think she realises how suggestive her photo is?[/QUOTE]
You're right Taster. Very suggestive.
Actually I am sure she knows what her photo is suggesting. Especially since I think "she" looks suspiciously like a bakla, and his/her profile is typical of she-male posts too, with all the stuff about a painful life.
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"I bring my friend with me"
For those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
Do you drop her?
Do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
What is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? I don't get it.
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This topic has been covered before, and the advice is split.
I've had both good and bad outcomes meeting friends / chaperones. My answer is yes, but make them feel like you are allowing it rather than they are getting there way. Absolutely no mothers, and suggest cute friends instead.
Rather than assume it is "childish", I suggest you think that it is common sense. A regular gal doesn't just go out alone and meet an unknown foriegn man, duh.
X
[QUOTE=Amjeck]For those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
Do you drop her?
Do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
What is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? I don't get it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]For those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
Do you drop her?
Do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
What is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? I don't get it.[/QUOTE]
Maybe, just maybe, she is a little scared of meeting some foreign guy in a strange place (or his hotel room) and wants a little "back up" just in case, or maybe she is trying to find a way to "earn" a little money for her friend also. And depending on how far away she has to come, maybe just to have a traveling companion. I agree about no family members...unless of course they plan to join in the fun!
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Actually, this is good information, but it is also unnecessarily narrow.
It assumes the gal is out to earn money. X
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Maybe, just maybe, she is a little scared of meeting some foreign guy in a strange place (or his hotel room) and wants a little "back up" just in case, or maybe she is trying to find a way to "earn" a little money for her friend also. And depending on how far away she has to come, maybe just to have a traveling companion. I agree about no family members...unless of course they plan to join in the fun![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]Actually, this is good information, but it is also unnecessarily narrow.
It assumes the gal is out to earn money. X[/QUOTE]
"X"
I guess in a sense you are correct in that every lady will have their own personal reasons, some of which may overlap. It wasn't my intention to detail the reason for every lady, not insinuate that I had all the answers. I guess it was done a little TIC, because to be honest, I felt the overriding reason should be self-evident.
Heck, I have spent a lot to time just trying to figure out "feminine motovation" on a simple level....with VERY limited success,I might add. This is WAY above my skill level! :-D
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different reasons
[quote=amjeck]for those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
do you drop her?
do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
what is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? i don't get it.[/quote]
as others have mentioned there are a number of different reasons.
the most common would be that its a relatively young or inexperienced girl who has not met any or at least many foreign guys before. often these girls are not intending to have sex and the partner is intended as a chaperone to insure that. meeting a foreigner is considered something of a treat especially of it involves pizza or jollybees so she may also be keen to share the experience with a friend.
as others have said if it is a cute girl about her age it maybe acceptable, if it is mum or aunty it will kill the atmosphere.
some girls like to bring along gay/ladyboy friends. in my experience this is to be avoided. tghe gay/lb will more often than not be attempting to financially exploit the situation by eg trying to negotiate a large taxi fee to get lost. there may also be a scam involved eg setting you up with an **** girl and threatening to call the police if you dont pay him off. the gay /lb may or may not have been involved in your original dialogue for example many gays/lbs chat/email on behalf of girls or substitute a girl if you say you dont like lbs etc. one way or another they are always trouble at least in my experience.
the third more promising scenario is a more experienced girl who is trying to maximise revenue by bringing along a friend for a threesome.
i usually tryto clarify the matter by asking whether the friend (a) 100% real girl with no extra bits (b) her age and slimness etc and (c) whether she is also open minded about being fucked.
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Dia - Bj
Had been chatting with a 22 yr. Old in preparation for "dates" in Manila.
Nice profile, typical 110 Ibs., nice cleavage etc. Met her at hotel and she
Had grown to 150 Ibs.! Ugh. The front desk girls even "raised an eyebrow". They had seen me with considerably better quality.
I know, I should have walked away, but being the nice guy that I am and
Under the influence of Vitamin V, we went upstairs. She didn't want to get
Undressed so I suggested she leave. But she wanted to stay? Oooook, what now?
I asked, "What did she want to do? " She wanted me to get undressed.
She wanted to look at me? Ah-ha!
In short, the best blow job I have had in 20 years. And she swallowed every drop!
Gave her 500p for transportation and went to LA Cafe for a couple of beers
And laughs. In a very relaxed state of mind.
Sometimes just have to go with the flow.
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[quote=greglondon]as others have mentioned there are a number of different reasons.
the most common would be that its a relatively young or inexperienced girl who has not met any or at least many foreign guys before. often these girls are not intending to have sex and the partner is intended as a chaperone to insure that. meeting a foreigner is considered something of a treat especially of it involves pizza or jollybees so she may also be keen to share the experience with a friend.
as others have said if it is a cute girl about her age it maybe acceptable, if it is mum or aunty it will kill the atmosphere.
some girls like to bring along gay/ladyboy friends. in my experience this is to be avoided. tghe gay/lb will more often than not be attempting to financially exploit the situation by eg trying to negotiate a large taxi fee to get lost. there may also be a scam involved eg setting you up with an **** girl and threatening to call the police if you don't pay him off. the gay /lb may or may not have been involved in your original dialogue for example many gays/lbs chat/email on behalf of girls or substitute a girl if you say you don't like lbs etc. one way or another they are always trouble at least in my experience.
the third more promising scenario is a more experienced girl who is trying to maximise revenue by bringing along a friend for a threesome.
i usually tryto clarify the matter by asking whether the friend (a) 100% real girl with no extra bits (b) her age and slimness etc and (c) whether she is also open minded about being fucked.[/quote]we've all been down this road many times. if girl who you meet looks sweet and innocent (ripe for the picking) politely give the friend some money for jollibee and tell her you will take care of the girl. then proceed to walk off. the girl who came to meet will often be confused and will invariably walk to you and join you. problem solved.
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Thanks for the extra info. Points taken.
I may have read too much into your point about "earn".
I assumed you were equating "earn" with prostitution, but after reading your message I think you were suggesting "opportunities".
All of us are looking for opportunities one way or another...no problem with that. :-) X
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]"X"
I guess in a sense you are correct in that every lady will have their own personal reasons, some of which may overlap. It wasn't my intention to detail the reason for every lady, not insinuate that I had all the answers. I guess it was done a little TIC, because to be honest, I felt the overriding reason should be self-evident.
Heck, I have spent a lot to time just trying to figure out "feminine motovation" on a simple level....with VERY limited success,I might add. This is WAY above my skill level! :-D[/QUOTE]
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Looks like all the fatties got together and created this one
[url]http://www.darlingasian.com/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Lustforthrust][url]http://www.darlingasian.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Man where do you get these sites, i love fatties....:) thanks for the link
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Looks like a Jollibee´s fan club.
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[quote=amjeck]for those of you who do internet dating, what do you do when the girl says she wants to bring her friend along?
do you drop her?
do you tell her "ok" and try to work the friend also?
what is the reason for this childish tactic these girls play? i don't get it.[/quote]
unlike their western counterparts who are ready to go alone to the bar to hook up, asian regular girls are not emotionally secure. they feel more safer if they have a friend or family to meet a guy whether it is a philippino or foreigner. i do not think they are afraid of being raped especially in philippines.
irrespective of how naive they come across they know their rights and will assert themselves, even a farmgirl.
i would avoid any girl who wants a friend to tag along. how can you have a conversation one to one if some other person is in the way? even if your interest is solely to get into her pants one to one is better. always remember they need sex also. if she has somebody with her the scenario will be different.
1. cannot talk openly.
2. cannot even touch her to see her reaction. even if she is willing she will worry what her friend thinks.
3. even if she is willing to go with you her friend may put some sense into her telling her not to go. this happens quite often in bars here with a group of girls.
i always tell the girl i feel funny meeting her with a friend because we cannot discuss openly. usually it works. if she is really hesitant better to meet at a public place for lunch and see what happens. more often than not she will text you before you get to the room if she does not go with to start with.
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After months of research on DIA
I've set up numerous fake accounts on dia to see what the true nature of the women on DIA is like. After e-mailing hundreds of women with generic type of e-mails, I've concluded that 1/3 of all the women in dia will have sex for money if you don't make them sound like hookers. If you make it clear that you are only looking for loving friendship with benefits type of deal 1/3 of these women will take money knowing its just sex for money. Out of the 1/3 half will ask you for huge amounts of money I've had some ask for 1k u.s. a week to 1250 u.s. a month. Another 5 % will flirt with you and say no problem,but could you send over some money now because i have this due or that due. The majority of women on dia will ignore you when it sex for money deal, this does not mean they won't cheat you or try to scam you. I highly recommend that if you are looking for sex to set up two accounts and see which ones will have sex for money. These type of girls will be a 100% sure thing for sex on first date if you treat them right, since they are motivated by other things than love.
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How do you set up multiple accounts on DIA without getting blacklisted by them?
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[QUOTE=Lustforthrust][url]http://www.darlingasian.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Hmm theres another very similar site to this [url]http://filipina4friends.com[/url]
Always got girls with C or D cups on it. No idea if the phone numbers work.
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]How do you set up multiple accounts on DIA without getting blacklisted by them?[/QUOTE]
You can do it multiple ways I assume that dia is looking for duplicate ip address when you set up your account, once you set up the account they no longer check are if you log onto dia from a single ip address even if you have multiple account. If you have a wireless connection you can leach off your neighbor wireless if its not password protected, you can go to internet cafe or public library to do it. I currently have 3 dia accounts at present and have been collecting phone number e-mail address and other vital info preparing for my next trip to PI. I for one am not looking for a wife or just someone to go to the mall with. My sole intention is great sex with super hot girl with gf sort of sex. In my experience the way to get really get sex is to find girls are hot looking that are morally questionable will have sex for money, but she not a pro. You play the i love you, i want you to be my gf and i want you to come visit me in the u.s. and help me run my business. Many filipina are quite naive and will buy that story hook line and sinker, at which point they think they just won the lottery and will do whatever it takes to make you happy, even if this means fucking your brains out. When i get to PI I want the girl to be into me and just fuck the living shit out of me, even though I think in 90% of the cases the wild action is money driven or a better life. If you play your cards right you will be fucked the moment you get off the plane and fucked all night long all it will cost is a decent dinner and some star bucks.
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]. You play the I love you, I want you to be my gf and I want you to come visit me in the USA and help me run my business. Many filipina are quite naive and will buy that story hook line and sinker, at which point they think they just won the lottery and will do whatever it takes to make you happy, even if this means fucking your brains out. When I get to PI I want the girl to be into me and just fuck the living shit out of me, even though I think in 90% of the cases the wild action is money driven or a better life. If you play your cards right you will be fucked the moment you get off the plane and fucked all night long all it will cost is a decent dinner and some star bucks.[/QUOTE]Actually you don't need to lie to them. You don't need to sell them some bullshit story and you certainly don't need to prey on their naivete.
We all enjoy great sex with some of these ladies on our trips, but I for one have a great deal of sucess by telling the ladies that I'm married so they know theres no chance of it going further, treating them well and with respect. I always get offers/requests for repeats.
I suspect your method just makes them hard, cynical, and know that theyve been fucked on so many levels. It also probably turns some of them into scammers as a way of payback.
Try and throw them a litttle more respect would be my advice whether you asked for it or not. I've only been mongering there for about 25 years now and have learned to recognise that treating these girls like we would like to be treated goes a long long way. Everyones got a choice.
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Taking a link out of the chain
i have read with some interest, and enjoyment some of the reports re: dia cb and other dating sites. reading manta rays description of a typical date is the best primer i have read on isg in years! i like his style!
i have tried the dating site routine myself and as other have suggested is hit and miss and a huge time drain. and as other have stated, and has been my experience, you often times get a girl who was not as adverstised i. e. used an old picture of herself or gain 30 pounds etc etc.
i would suggest taking a link out of the chain, and just chat up cam girls instead. my experience has been much better with this mo. number one, you can see the " goods" before you meet first hand i. e. flabby boobs see section scars whatever your fixation/fear is. so the physical side is a non issue before you actually meet this girl in person. because you have all ready seen her in the buff.
i know many would argue "cam girls are sharks"!. or "i'm not paying all that money to see a girl strip on cam"
this would be my rebuttal. yes some cam girls are sharks. but so are many of the girls on dia or cb. here is my simple mo. while giving a cam girl a "private" you get her ym (i have set up a dedicated ym account just for this purpose). chat her up there on ym after the private and for the preceeding weeks before your up comming trip. of course you mention that you would like to meet her.
what a coincidence that you would meet her online just weeks before your up coming trip to the philippines!
approximately 70% of the cam girls live in taguig or pasig or qc. so its not a far trip to your place in makati.
the other approx. 20% seem to live in pampanga somewhere. a/c or mabalacat tarlac, dau etc etc. ten percent are rep001tered all over the phils.
as far as your investment in the cam girls goes. a "private" will cost you anywhere from. 50 cents a minute to $1 usd a minute on sac or abc or acm. imho take the cheaper rate. which is often as good, as the more expensive. about 5 minutes will be all you will need to decide if this is a girl you are interested in. l i. e. maybe the girl is cute and has a nice body but is a bit non responsive or not to smiley or engaging. of course everyone will have there individual metrics for what is important to them.
in the end you have spent $2. 50 to $5 to watch a lovely gal. and now you know what you are getting on arrival. for some i understand this is expensive, but i would argue that so is your precious time on vacation, why waste it on hit and miss encounters! for you cheap charlies you can just get her ym in free chat. sometimes.
i would say on average i would spend $40-$80 on cam girls before an up comming trip. to whittle the list down to 3-4 solid candidates. this imho is money well spent! and a very enjoyable talent hunt! before your trip!
my combined batting average is about 70% with both cb/dia and the cam girl method. although i have sent many more cb/dia girls packing (goodbye) on initial meeting, and waste much more time on dia girls in idle chatter. perhaps only to discover later after wining and dining that she has national geograhphic boobs. that hang down to her waste. sorry but i'll pass on that!
i would say the down side of dating cam girls is that some. not all. are quite skillfull and persuasive at separating you from your money. for various accidents. and other frequent disasters. this however, can play to your advantage.
and yes there is usually a sister or cousin riding "shotgun" on the 1st meeting with both dia dates and cam dates. but a clever guy can separate them. of the 30% non success ratio about 1/2 i am not interested upon meeting i. e. smoker. and another 1/2 are not interested in me. perhaps because i vaguely resemble the elephant man.
also the cam girls are usually slightly more prone to monetary suggestion/temptation than a dia/cb girl. in other words they would be prone to be impressed that you are staying at the abc in a/c. or mandarin in makati, or be wowed at the nice restaurant you took her to. (jollibee. just kidding) connecting the dots. your quality will almost always be better taking the cam route. and. they are more likely to readlily "shag you rotten"
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I think that it is extremely bad form to lie outright to girls and lead them on to later dump them. But that´s just me. My opinion is probably a minority one.
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[QUOTE=Pimpster] You play the i love you, i want you to be my gf and i want you to come visit me in the u.s. and help me run my business. Many filipina are quite naive and will buy that story hook line and sinker, at which point they think they just won the lottery and will do whatever it takes to make you happy, even if this means fucking your brains out. [/QUOTE]
Sorry Pimpster but what U describe above is, IMHO, just the wrong way to treat another human being. Period, paragraph, full stop.
There are many girls out there willing to sleep with us without having to resort to lies, deceit and the ultimate heartbreak that will come with your modus operandi.
My POV
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Bad attitude
[QUOTE=Pimpster].... You play the i love you, i want you to be my gf and i want you to come visit me in the u.s. and help me run my business. Many filipina are quite naive and will buy that story hook line and sinker, at which point they think they just won the lottery and will do whatever it takes to make you happy, even if this means fucking your brains out. ................. all night long all it will cost is a decent dinner and some star bucks.[/QUOTE]
I very much agree with David and Eagle on this one. I'm afraid that many guys do have Pimpster's attitude , which is why I have some sympathy for the girls trying to make a few bucks from scam stories. one problem is that it is generally the sweet and rather naive girls that fall for this type of rouse. I'm hoping that Pimpster's main purpose is to get enthusiastic performance and that he still pays the girls the going rate, rather a than a cunning plan to cheat a 20 year old girl out of $20 for a nights work??
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Actually you don't need to lie to them. You don't need to sell them some bullshit story and you certainly don't need to prey on their naivete.
We all enjoy great sex with some of these ladies on our trips, but I for one have a great deal of sucess by telling the ladies that I'm married so they know theres no chance of it going further, treating them well and with respect. I always get offers/requests for repeats.[/QUOTE]
True! No need to create elaborate stories so the girls will bed you. If you're a nice guy and they like you, you'll be in bed with them soon enough. I also let the girls know that I'm married. They weigh the options and usually sleep with me anyway knowing full well a serious relationship is out of the question. Success rate is hardly 100% using this approach, but I'm satified enough with the results I do get. It's also a safer way to do business because it allows me much more freedom to do my own thing when I re-visit some of the same islands without the fear of having a girls relatives or friends angrily pursuing me for breaking past promises.
YM
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I hear what you guys are saying
Here the thing, as I stated, I go for girls that are hot and motivated by money. So are they going to lie to me of course they are. 66% of women in dia will not consider sex for money outright, that doesn't mean they don't have some sort of plan or have multiple guys lined up. Do you guys honestly think you are the only one she flirting with making plans with? Its like saying guys here are only flirting with a single lady. Realistically what are the chance of you getting laid on the first date or second date or third date? If there no perception that you are their man or bf etc... the answer is pretty obvious, yes you can get laid but the amount of time that you have to invest in courting the girls are pretty high. Filipina aren't that easy, regardless of what you may believe. The reality is if these same girls were in the u.s. none of us would get any action unless you are loaded. We all lie to some degree. I've stated I placed numerous ads up one of them was a friends with benefit deal, the number of girls who responded were well under 50%, with that being said everyone who states that they are scoring huge numbers are either misleading the girls in some way, because if you placed an add up with friends with benefits you aren't really going to get any action. Most of these ladies are looking for bf marriage away out of PI. They may fuck you hoping and thinking that you are their way out. So seriously unless someone looking for a wife, or tells the girl that its a fling and I'm having sex with lots of girls than you are lying. I elect not to lie to girls that I know that are looking for a husband, I elect to lie to those who are looking for money. I would argue that my lie is, better if there such a thing than giving many of these ladies who are seeking husbands and a better future false hopes. IMO if you your motivation is sex with many different girls, the chance of you getting any sex without putting lots of time and effort without playing you are my gf deal is pretty low. Unless you are paying for it, i think most of us are saying oh i m looking for good gf bla bla bla when we chat is an outright lie giving false hope. I of course am not here to judge anyone, because imo we are all in the same boat there very little difference once you are able to do an honest assessment.
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]Realistically what are the chance of you getting laid on the first date or second date or third date? If there no perception that you are their man or bf etc. The answer is pretty obvious, yes you can get laid but the amount of time that you have to invest in courting the girls are pretty high. Filipina aren't that easy, regardless of what you may believe.[/QUOTE]Filipinas like most Asians don't have the same moral hang up about sex that the West does. Yes the Church tries to influence but weve all met gals that will happily jump from a 3some to some important mass.
Filipinas are easy if you know how to do it. The chance of getting laid on the first date is about 80%, and for those that insist on a second its probably 99%.
On more than one ocassion, I've met a gal in the afternoon, who said she wouldn't put out on a first date. So dropped her off, met her again at night and she had perfectly logically created the idea in her mind that it was now the second date.
These girls will sleep with you if they want to. Your job is creating the "want to ". And then the rest is easy.
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[quote=mariposa11]i have read with some interest, and enjoyment some of the reports re: dia cb and other dating sites. reading manta rays description of a typical date is the best primer i have read on isg in years! i like his style!
i have tried the dating site routine myself and as other have suggested is hit and miss and a huge time drain. and as other have stated, and has been my experience, you often times get a girl who was not as adverstised i. e. used an old picture of herself or gain 30 pounds etc etc.
i would suggest taking a link out of the chain, and just chat up cam girls instead. my experience has been much better with this mo. number one, you can see the " goods" before you meet first hand i. e. flabby boobs see section scars whatever your fixation/fear is. so the physical side is a non issue before you actually meet this girl in person. because you have all ready seen her in the buff.
i know many would argue "cam girls are sharks"!. or "i'm not paying all that money to see a girl strip on cam"
this would be my rebuttal. yes some cam girls are sharks. but so are many of the girls on dia or cb. here is my simple mo. while giving a cam girl a "private" you get her ym (i have set up a dedicated ym account just for this purpose). chat her up there on ym after the private and for the preceeding weeks before your up comming trip. of course you mention that you would like to meet her.
what a coincidence that you would meet her online just weeks before your up coming trip to the philippines!
approximately 70% of the cam girls live in taguig or pasig or qc. so its not a far trip to your place in makati.
the other approx. 20% seem to live in pampanga somewhere. a/c or mabalacat tarlac, dau etc etc. ten percent are rep001tered all over the phils.
as far as your investment in the cam girls goes. a "private" will cost you anywhere from. 50 cents a minute to $1 usd a minute on sac or abc or acm. imho take the cheaper rate. which is often as good, as the more expensive. about 5 minutes will be all you will need to decide if this is a girl you are interested in. l i. e. maybe the girl is cute and has a nice body but is a bit non responsive or not to smiley or engaging. of course everyone will have there individual metrics for what is important to them.
in the end you have spent $2. 50 to $5 to watch a lovely gal. and now you know what you are getting on arrival. for some i understand this is expensive, but i would argue that so is your precious time on vacation, why waste it on hit and miss encounters! for you cheap charlies you can just get her ym in free chat. sometimes.
i would say on average i would spend $40-$80 on cam girls before an up comming trip. to whittle the list down to 3-4 solid candidates. this imho is money well spent! and a very enjoyable talent hunt! before your trip!
my combined batting average is about 70% with both cb/dia and the cam girl method. although i have sent many more cb/dia girls packing (goodbye) on initial meeting, and waste much more time on dia girls in idle chatter. perhaps only to discover later after wining and dining that she has national geograhphic boobs. that hang down to her waste. sorry but i'll pass on that!
i would say the down side of dating cam girls is that some. not all. are quite skillfull and persuasive at separating you from your money. for various accidents. and other frequent disasters. this however, can play to your advantage.
and yes there is usually a sister or cousin riding "shotgun" on the 1st meeting with both dia dates and cam dates. but a clever guy can separate them. of the 30% non success ratio about 1/2 i am not interested upon meeting i. e. smoker. and another 1/2 are not interested in me. perhaps because i vaguely resemble the elephant man.
also the cam girls are usually slightly more prone to monetary suggestion/temptation than a dia/cb girl. in other words they would be prone to be impressed that you are staying at the abc in a/c. or mandarin in makati, or be wowed at the nice restaurant you took her to. (jollibee. just kidding) connecting the dots. your quality will almost always be better taking the cam route. and. they are more likely to readlily "shag you rotten"
ingat
mariposa11
[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/quote]fully agree with you here. i've dated a few cam girls, some of whom i met thru dia and tagged. often they would be on cam in ym whilst preparing for their cam show. nice to see nearly naked girls and know what you are going to be getting.
if the girl shows you a pic and shes in a bikini and theres a waterfall or dolphin or wooded glade scene behind chances are shes a cam girl.
theres a street just off c5 highway in signal village in taguig where theres 3 or 4 houses where the cam girls work. theres a mamasan assigned to make sure the girls don't flash their goodies for free but the mamasan is often the fat type who falls asleep.
girls start work (6am) early to catch the us guys who need to see some filipina puss.
but overall, yes dating cam girls can be fun and a fruitful way to see the goods before delivery.
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Sorry Pimpster but what U describe above is, IMHO, just the wrong way to treat another human being. Period, paragraph, full stop.
There are many girls out there willing to sleep with us without having to resort to lies, deceit and the ultimate heartbreak that will come with your modus operandi.
My POV
ES[/QUOTE]Hear, hear. Let's not forget these girls are human with dreams, hopes, aspirations. To come and lay a total bullshit story on them, imo, is downright shitty.
And, more than that, it's totally unnecessary. I always use the yardstick: would I want someone to be doing this to my sister, daughter, or loved one?
To each his own, but I am in agreement with ES and David.
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I'm confused
I don't quite understand what you are saying here Pimpster? The vast majority of girls (other than the scammers) on DIA etc put in their profile that they are looking for Mr Right/a long term relationship etc. For sure this is indeed the main aim of most of these girls. Some of these girls are "romantic" and believe that they should only date guys who at least claim that they are looking for a wife in some cases they will claim truthfully or not that they are a virgin and that they will give their virginity only when married or at least engaged.
Other girls are what is called here "practical" yes marriage is the main aim but if this is off the menu then they are willing to have sex with an expectation of some financial payback. Most girls are not wiling to be explicit about this on their profiles as (1) this is an aspect of their behaviour which they dont want to demonstrate A to potential husbands and b to their friends, relatives and colleagues and c because the sites may ban them.
As i understand it your policy is to spend alot of time with multiple profiles to identify these hot "practical" girls then to dupe them into going to bed with you with stories of potential marriage. Do you end up infact paying them something?
My policy is to identify these hot "practical" girls tell them exactly what im looking for (nsa gfe) and then when they come round and have fun hand them a 500/1000B tip as they say good bye. No lieing or multiple accounts needed. Everyone gets what they want. Generally the girls have alot of fun and end up becoming friends' who will drop around invite their freinds around to be fucked as well etc etc. Works well for me.
One caveate is that such a strategy is best employed in Manila/Cebu/AC. In more conservative places such as Davao where I am now you will almost certainly have more success if you at least leave open the possibility that you are interested in marriage.
I would agree with Pimpster that although he seems to be in a minority amongst the frequent posters on this site, i would guess that a large majority of the guys who come here are "economical with the truth" in terms of giving the impression that they are indeed looking for Miss Right or at least open to the possibility, when infact that is often a 10,000 to 1 possibility at least in relation to the girl in question.
[QUOTE=Pimpster]Here the thing, as I stated, I go for girls that are hot and motivated by money. So are they going to lie to me of course they are. 66% of women in dia will not consider sex for money outright, that doesn't mean they don't have some sort of plan or have multiple guys lined up. Do you guys honestly think you are the only one she flirting with making plans with? Its like saying guys here are only flirting with a single lady. Realistically what are the chance of you getting laid on the first date or second date or third date? If there no perception that you are their man or bf etc... the answer is pretty obvious, yes you can get laid but the amount of time that you have to invest in courting the girls are pretty high. Filipina aren't that easy, regardless of what you may believe. The reality is if these same girls were in the u.s. none of us would get any action unless you are loaded. We all lie to some degree. I've stated I placed numerous ads up one of them was a friends with benefit deal, the number of girls who responded were well under 50%, with that being said everyone who states that they are scoring huge numbers are either misleading the girls in some way, because if you placed an add up with friends with benefits you aren't really going to get any action. Most of these ladies are looking for bf marriage away out of PI. They may fuck you hoping and thinking that you are their way out. So seriously unless someone looking for a wife, or tells the girl that its a fling and I'm having sex with lots of girls than you are lying. I elect not to lie to girls that I know that are looking for a husband, I elect to lie to those who are looking for money. I would argue that my lie is, better if there such a thing than giving many of these ladies who are seeking husbands and a better future false hopes. IMO if you your motivation is sex with many different girls, the chance of you getting any sex without putting lots of time and effort without playing you are my gf deal is pretty low. Unless you are paying for it, i think most of us are saying oh i m looking for good gf bla bla bla when we chat is an outright lie giving false hope. I of course am not here to judge anyone, because imo we are all in the same boat there very little difference once you are able to do an honest assessment.[/QUOTE]
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What could she be wanting
Met a young lady on last trip, took her to Eurotel Pasay road ( no Victoria Court being available in said location ) and we did our thing.
Havent heard from her since till today I get a message on Tagged
" Hello how are you now... I miss you.... oh did I tell you, its my birthday soon".
No guessing which was the more salient part of her message lol.
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unusual offer
Had a girl in Cebu contact me via Skype this afternoon. She wondered if i could come around for some free anything goes sex with her. She showed everything and looked sexy on cam. The catch? Well it would be on cam and her Saudi boyfriend would be watching and presumably funding the endeavours. Seemed like too much potential for severe embarrassment to save 1000P to me.
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Most of them are woman looking for white men from America and Europe, their one way ticket out of the Philippines.
Asians, please don't waste your time.
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Mall Hunting: What's the secret??
Having been her a while and being relatively net savvy I feel I have got a good handle on the net dating scene. However though one gets plenty of "interested" glances wandering around a typical Phils Mall, I have had very little success in converting this interest into results. Would anyone with a better track record like to give some useful advice as to a modus operandi?
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This guy has some tips:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=990933&postcount=3513[/url]
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Wha does Mhuaw mean?
I have been communicating with a girl I've met several times in HK and Manila and she always ends the message ending with "Mhuaw".
Does anybody know the actual meaning of mhuaw?
I've done some research and have come up blank.
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Don't be shy, say 'MABUHAY'
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Having been her a while and being relatively net savvy I feel I have got a good handle on the net dating scene. However though one gets plenty of "interested" glances wandering around a typical Phils Mall, I have had very little success in converting this interest into results. Would anyone with a better track record like to give some useful advice as to a modus operandi?[/QUOTE]
Had plenty of success mall hunting over the years. In some malls such as Harrison's and Robinsons Ermita, it is comparatively easy as girls go there looking to be made. In other malls I always, when a girl looks at me with interest (you must know that unique ballsy Pinay direct eye contact fuck me look?) I always smile. If she smiles back then often, you are halfway to getting into her knickers! Then don't be shy, say 'Mabuhay'. And then invite her to join you for coffee. The rest is up to you but compared to many places in the world, its relatively easy. If an old fart like me can have some noted successes, then anyone can:D.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer69]I have been communicating with a girl I've met several times in HK and Manila and she always ends the message ending with "Mhuaw".
Does anybody know the actual meaning of mhuaw?
I've done some research and have come up blank.[/QUOTE]
Often spelled mwaah and other variants, it is simply a Pinay way of blowing you a kiss:).
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
But overall, yes dating cam girls can be fun and a fruitful way to see the goods before delivery.[/QUOTE]
Agree with FF. Had a few myself and always fun. Also when you get to know them (ie they have met you, shagged you etc) then I can chat and watch them sometimes do a cam show for a paying punter LOL - depends if they can get YM and the wbecam show working same time.
But at least you see the goodies and are not surprised by C sections, saggy rack, hairy pussy etc
One time the girl came with her other cam girl friend who was curious...curious enough to join in after a while of pretending not to listen and see what was going on whuile she chatted on my laptopp.
Certainly has it benefits...:D
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Had a girl in Cebu contact me via Skype this afternoon. She wondered if i could come around for some free anything goes sex with her. She showed everything and looked sexy on cam. The catch? Well it would be on cam and her Saudi boyfriend would be watching and presumably funding the endeavours. Seemed like too much potential for severe embarrassment to save 1000P to me.[/QUOTE]I was offered the same!
I thought exactly the same as well!
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Hi, my first report on ISG!
I would to thank everyone who has reported on here and given invaluable information to myself. Also thanks to a couple of memebers for PMs which have resulted in some good fun!
I have been in PI for the last 3 weeks and have not had the need to go to a bar/club to pick up a girl. DIA is the way forward! Also as everyone says I have had some good rsults just being in the Malls.
I thought about lying on my profile but in the end decided honesty was the best policy and have ahd some great results. I said I wasnt looking for a relationship as I am travelling but was up for some fun and that I am generous and kind. Also any women who liked women were more than welcome!
I have now got to the point where I am having to put meetings off!
I will write a proper report when I have time but just to say once again thanks to everyone.
PS, if anyone knows any 3 holers who are bi just PM me! LOL
Happy hunting
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Haha...this is about as well stated as I've ever seen a description of the Filipina mindset. Well done, Commander. :-)
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Filipinas like most Asians don't have the same moral hang up about sex that the West does. Yes the Church tries to influence but weve all met gals that will happily jump from a 3some to some important mass.
Filipinas are easy if you know how to do it. The chance of getting laid on the first date is about 80%, and for those that insist on a second its probably 99%.
On more than one ocassion, I've met a gal in the afternoon, who said she wouldn't put out on a first date. So dropped her off, met her again at night and she had perfectly logically created the idea in her mind that it was now the second date.
These girls will sleep with you if they want to. Your job is creating the "want to ". And then the rest is easy.[/QUOTE]
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peerbock- reports site is infected with a trojan
[quote=born loser 5]man where do you get these sites, i love fatties....:) thanks for the link[/quote]peer block reports that site is a bad site tries to infect with a trojan downloader
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[quote=rangertech69]peer block reports that site is a bad site tries to infect with a trojan downloader[/quote]
thanks man,, my anti virus did not report it...guess i have to scan the whole system again.
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prettylicious03
DIA Gal for someone in or going to the Phils...............................
Juz a Sporty Woman who can PLAY hard!!!
I love to be*** NAUGHTY ***in the...
Funniest possible way I can)
AM SPORTy woman!!! WHO can DRIbble and Shoot!!!
A SPORTY woman who Can PLAY HARD!!!
They call me!!!
Hot (careful u might burn)
they call me!!!
sexy (awww thanks for the compliments)
they call me!!!
"MISS FrIendSHIP" (absolutely true)
A bIG MouTH!!!(yeah pretty good to eat something lol)
Noisy (yah can hear me scream!!!)
I make people laugh!!! (as i pay them to laugh and tickle them)
Pretty, (ehem!!!)
stunning,(Wahh i leave it to u)
Bad girl(its good to be bad sometimes its where funniest things in life)
SWeet!!! (yeah i taste like cake...
(have a try its free taste)
Compassionate!!! (yeah u can lean on me..
... cry on my shoulder..
I'll be there for YOU!)
Am no fake!!! No surgeries!!! No two face!!!
PArty Girl
Miss congeniality
Crazy.......(I am)
simple...
NauGHty... (I love to be NAUGHTY in the...
funniest possible way I can)
trustworthy...
ADventorous!!!
Loca!!!
Emotionally sensitive!!! (not really into
... drama thou)
WILD.... (yeah most specially in ??(HAving fun *wink)
I like reading books …
Ilove my Family!!
I look after myself of course but
Can’t be bothered to drop my hair in the mud...
i can’t describe the whole me but i can say in simple word is that am really COOL and Simply loving life!!!
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]DIA Gal for someone in or going to the Phils...............................
Juz a Sporty Woman who can PLAY hard!!!
I love to be*** NAUGHTY ***in the...
Funniest possible way I can)
AM SPORTy woman!!! WHO can DRIbble and Shoot!!!
A SPORTY woman who Can PLAY HARD!!!
They call me!!!
Hot (careful u might burn)
they call me!!!
sexy (awww thanks for the compliments)
they call me!!!
"MISS FrIendSHIP" (absolutely true)
A bIG MouTH!!!(yeah pretty good to eat something lol)
Noisy (yah can hear me scream!!!)
I make people laugh!!! (as i pay them to laugh and tickle them)
Pretty, (ehem!!!)
stunning,(Wahh i leave it to u)
Bad girl(its good to be bad sometimes its where funniest things in life)
SWeet!!! (yeah i taste like cake...
(have a try its free taste)
Compassionate!!! (yeah u can lean on me..
... cry on my shoulder..
I'll be there for YOU!)
Am no fake!!! No surgeries!!! No two face!!!
PArty Girl
Miss congeniality
Crazy.......(I am)
simple...
NauGHty... (I love to be NAUGHTY in the...
funniest possible way I can)
trustworthy...
ADventorous!!!
Loca!!!
Emotionally sensitive!!! (not really into
... drama thou)
WILD.... (yeah most specially in ??(HAving fun *wink)
I like reading books …
Ilove my Family!!
I look after myself of course but
Can’t be bothered to drop my hair in the mud...
i can’t describe the whole me but i can say in simple word is that am really COOL and Simply loving life!!![/QUOTE]
This could well be a ladyboy too Eagle. "She" uses words that are typical of many baklas to evade saying a straight out lie.
But then again ..... she could be too good to be true, and everything she says is truthful except that ...... she is a filipina LOL
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Mall hunting
Been working in Manila briefly but more work than mongering, unfortunately.
Really to the question on mall hunting, the only advice I have, is to just say the first thing that pops into your head.
Anything.
Any response from the target means you're half way there.
My best 2 conquests last week were actually one on the way to the mall and the other leaving.
I was leaving Greenbelt after a work meeting and staying in a hotel nearby.
It was about 6. 30 ish and office girls everywhere.
Went into one of those under the road walkways and right beside me is a very cute girl with small backpack.
All I said was, Its hot.
She said, too hot. My hotel was about 200 yards down the street so we were talking as both going the same way.
Stopped opposite my hotel and said, look I was thinking of getting a massage but I think it'd be more fun if I got a massage from you.
She said the usual I don't know how to massage and said she had to go.
I replied I was going to pay 1000 for a one hour massage.
Her. Really?
At this point I could literally see her brain doing the math.
So I threw in but it'd have to be a sexy massage.
Her: Really (then nervous laugh.)
Me. Yep I stay just here, pointing across the road.
Her: I've got to go.
Me: Ok 1500 because you look so nice and I've got to go out in a hour anyway. True as I had a work dinner.
Within 10 minutes we were banging like rabbits.
20 years old, immaculate body.
Time from meeting to hotel. About 6 minutes.
Occupation. Part time retail assistant. But looking for something better.
Got her number and saw her a few times.
As a follow up to anyone who read my Cebu report, I flew down to Cebu for the weekend to spend a weekend with Shopgirl at a Mactan resort. Although the word resort is a bit of an overstatement.
Fantastic until departure time for all the tears.
Filipino girls fall deep fast or more likely are seriously good actresses.
Guys living in The Philippines have got a good thing going on.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Had a girl in Cebu contact me via Skype this afternoon. She wondered if i could come around for some free anything goes sex with her. She showed everything and looked sexy on cam. The catch? Well it would be on cam and her Saudi boyfriend would be watching and presumably funding the endeavours. Seemed like too much potential for severe embarrassment to save 1000P to me.[/QUOTE]
GL
Sounds like something I would do to overcome the boredom of Saudi :D Trust me I would never take your photos........
But it was not me but seems like a few kinky mongers from Saudi....must be the heat.
Catch you soon
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Saudi
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]GL
Sounds like something I would do to overcome the boredom of Saudi :D Trust me I would never take your photos.
But it was not me but seems like a few kinky mongers from Saudi....must be the heat.
Catch you soon[/QUOTE]I once worked in Saudi. Its soooo depressing. No alcohol (except the crap you brew yourself) no porn, no women at work, no women drivers, nothing except endless wanking (unless you can ocassionally score a nurse)
No wonder the guy was happy to see his gal on cam.
When I was ther the price of a new Penthouse was US400!
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Check this out
[url]http://manila.craigslist.com.ph/w4m/1669639221[/url]
This guy been married to this filipina for less than 2 years and she has her claws into him big time money wise, poor guy.
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Tagged
Anyone out there using this site called tagged? I guess it is tagged dot com. I was just on the site and you can't get any kind of a feel for it since they won't let you do anything until you create a profile.
It seems there are a lot of people talking about it and it maybe getting very popular with the pinays.
What I am trying to avoid is one of those crappy facebook type of things where you spend all kinds of time reading about all of the stupid things that everyone did today.
I much prefer the search out people by there age, height,. Etc. Am having good luck with blossom and DIA, but don't want to miss the boat on others.
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[QUOTE=Devils 1]Anyone out there using this site called tagged? I guess it is tagged dot com. I was just on the site and you can't get any kind of a feel for it since they won't let you do anything until you create a profile.
It seems there are a lot of people talking about it and it maybe getting very popular with the pinays.
What I am trying to avoid is one of those crappy facebook type of things where you spend all kinds of time reading about all of the stupid things that everyone did today.
I much prefer the search out people by there age, height,. Etc. Am having good luck with blossom and DIA, but don't want to miss the boat on others.[/QUOTE]Tagged is very easy. Look on the match part, click yes on a liely contender, send her some sweet words and the rest is history. Those with phone numbers shown are generally young students, TS or high mielage girls. Those with waterfalls or similar sickly scenes behind there pics are webcam girls as are those with multiple pics in bras .
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I once worked in Saudi. Its soooo depressing. No alcohol (except the crap you brew yourself) no porn, no women at work, no women drivers, nothing except endless wanking (unless you can ocassionally score a nurse)
No wonder the guy was happy to see his gal on cam.
When I was ther the price of a new Penthouse was US400![/QUOTE]
FF
Trust me you can get all that you need here.....;):D yes booze can be expensive but I prefer lots of filipina nurse...some in pigtails and schoolie uniforms LOL
Have to work at it but soon will be Manila again having a long weekend R&R something I will be doing regualrly now so hope out dates cross...
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]FF
Trust me you can get all that you need here.....;):D yes booze can be expensive but I prefer lots of filipina nurse...some in pigtails and schoolie uniforms LOL
Have to work at it but soon will be Manila again having a long weekend R&R something I will be doing regualrly now so hope out dates cross...[/QUOTE]
Let's see, Roger, Manila or Saudi, Saudi or Manila, they're so close in what they offer that it's a bit difficult to choose. Seriously, when are you getting back here?
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Let's see, Roger, Manila or Saudi, Saudi or Manila, they're so close in what they offer that it's a bit difficult to choose. Seriously, when are you getting back here?[/QUOTE]
LOL
You are right and you know my preferences....issue for me is if I was ever to work in PI would i ever get any work done or would I be too tired and focused on more important matters
Have fun and see you soon
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger] You are right and you know my preferences....issue for me is if I was ever to work in PI would i ever get any work done or would I be too tired and focused on more important matters
......[/QUOTE]
I live in Manila mate and I manage to keep it balanced but it is a struggle to keep a focus on the work. I just keep reminding myself that without the work the "more important matters" would not be as accessible but it sure requires some discipline.
Happy for you to distract me though WR on your next pass through Manila (if ever the women allow you to get out of Cebu LOL)
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DIA girl confesses---
bad girl....bar girl not camgirl..good company...find me bin candybar
bargirl,stupid dirty girl fucking girl thats the work of girl work in bar...being bar girl is not easy.i know most guy if they knows girl work in bar he dont repect becoz for them bargirl are for having fun only,,, thats why i down myself becoz i know girl like me no one will seroiuse coz im a kind of a girl that showing and selling body like a piece of meet in a market..so all i can say u can look who i am but u cant judges who i am..so now, nothing cant hide it .so if u here for fun just go in bar..coz im here to be honest not making drama....im crazy and funny...im also bad but a good way...i like having fun...jelouse girl?bulshit.i hate that....if u want to be my friend u can email me and i reply u as long as i can
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]DIA girl confesses---
bad girl....bar girl not camgirl..good company...find me bin candybar
bargirl,stupid dirty girl fucking girl thats the work of girl work in bar...being bar girl is not easy.i know most guy if they knows girl work in bar he dont repect becoz for them bargirl are for having fun only,,, thats why i down myself becoz i know girl like me no one will seroiuse coz im a kind of a girl that showing and selling body like a piece of meet in a market..so all i can say u can look who i am but u cant judges who i am..so now, nothing cant hide it .so if u here for fun just go in bar..coz im here to be honest not making drama....im crazy and funny...im also bad but a good way...i like having fun...jelouse girl?bulshit.i hate that....if u want to be my friend u can email me and i reply u as long as i can[/QUOTE]
Can you please PM or post her user name? I know alot of girls from Candy and I am curious who it is:D.
Thanks
Robb
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I live in Manila mate and I manage to keep it balanced but it is a struggle to keep a focus on the work. I just keep reminding myself that without the work the "more important matters" would not be as accessible but it sure requires some discipline.
Happy for you to distract me though WR on your next pass through Manila (if ever the women allow you to get out of Cebu LOL)[/QUOTE]
RK
Look forward to it and may have a Cebu girl in tow as well ...well am a creature of habit especially if she is so cute and likes to have lessons from Professor WR. And lessons may ned a another person ;)
Am there May sometime so will definitely catch up and we can see if you can be distracted the WR way :D
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Cheaper by the Dozen
Salamat,
I have perused this section with interest often and found it helpful. But not as helpful as DIA, Tagged and YM.
Here is what I think and I ended up doing. I got me a turnkey in Butuan and San Pedro in Laguna. A turnkey, a lady who oens up all the other ladies for me. In 21 days, I had more than 40 women, all free (though freebies are not free: paties, booze etc).
Think of it this way. (some credit to Dragon Slayer). Dress well, play the gentleman. Remember most Pinays have no money, nothing. Your wallet is your advantage. But you have to go to where you get bang for the buck. That means you go to where other foreigners do not go. Like Dragon Slayer, you dress well etc. But unlike Dragon Slayer, you set your own rules up front. In my case, I get them to promise their freinds in advance and, playing the numbers game, it works.
There is an old saying in the markets. If you want to hunt elephants, you go to elephant country. Good Enough is wrong with his untested tehory that you should stake out student nurses. They are young and upwardly mobile. You will not strike there.
Don't believe me? Try getting the Pinays living overseas who advertise on DIA. Not a chance if, like many of us, you are an aged creep, with a good banak balance but lack of power in the pistol.
One more important thing to think of. Young penniless Pinays do a lot of bonking, in beaches and woods and other places "where the ragged people go". If you want bang for your buck, that is the place to go.
I could relat what I did but that will only get censored. I like playing the game this way. More bang for the buck. As that pushes boundaries. Horses for courses, of course.
Ingat
Mwaaaaah
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Spending HIs Love...
One DIA girl wrote as her header--
I want to meet someone that I can spent his love for the rest of his life...
I think she was thinking
I want to meet someone that I can spend his money for the rest of his life...
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@Cuba Tourist
Haha. I thought the same thing too. I mean. With the wrong grammar and all. Thanks for the heads up by the way. A reminder to myself of how important it is to really read between the lines. "Spent" is one word to look out for.
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@ The Departed
I will surely keep your advice up front that's for sure. Who needs a costly hotel stay when you can it elsewhere twice as cheap (and even for free?). You sure are a player, I tell you that. And a skilled one. I have this thing for pinay nurses but not that your threads are discouraging me to go after them or anything. But regardless of what they say I always ask for an ID. I met this hot nurse once in qc and I got turned on with her big ass tits (including that wonderful body and face). The moment I met her we had a few quick drinks then the most wonderful two hours of my entire stay in the Phils. Was worth every penny I threw at her. It's ironic. Most women here (escorts included) would charge over 3k for a two hour stint. But the one that I had up and running was ok with the 2,5. Is it me or am I just damn lucky to find a diamond in the rough?
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DIA mochajenn, 20, Philippines
I got this one on Yahoo cam to cam and she not only showed it all she masturbated on cam. Probably would fu*k your brains out if you are in the Phils.
Looks like a decent rack also but again she is only 20 soooooooo
ES
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[QUOTE=The Departed]Here is what I think and I ended up doing. I got me a turnkey in Butuan and San Pedro in Laguna. A turnkey, a lady who oens up all the other ladies for me. In 21 days, I had more than 40 women, all free (though freebies are not free: paties, booze etc).[/QUOTE]
Interesting post DP even getting a suggestion for a RoD link! For me a 'turnkey' means a ready made family, step in and your good to go. What your talking about is a neighborhood 'mamasan'. :D
Knowing she doesn't have much of a chance with you but wants to see you happy and is willing to intoduce you to family or friends! Matchmaking is a national pastime in many circles. Have met many women this way myself and some were real gems!
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A T H
Has anybody had any experiences with AsianTrueHearts.com ?
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[QUOTE=The Departed]Salamat,
I have perused this section with interest often and found it helpful. But not as helpful as DIA, Tagged and YM.
Here is what I think and I ended up doing. I got me a turnkey in Butuan and San Pedro in Laguna. A turnkey, a lady who oens up all the other ladies for me. In 21 days, I had more than 40 women, all free (though freebies are not free: paties, booze etc).
Think of it this way. (some credit to Dragon Slayer). Dress well, play the gentleman. Remember most Pinays have no money, nothing. Your wallet is your advantage. But you have to go to where you get bang for the buck. That means you go to where other foreigners do not go. Like Dragon Slayer, you dress well etc. But unlike Dragon Slayer, you set your own rules up front. In my case, I get them to promise their freinds in advance and, playing the numbers game, it works.
There is an old saying in the markets. If you want to hunt elephants, you go to elephant country. Good Enough is wrong with his untested tehory that you should stake out student nurses. They are young and upwardly mobile. You will not strike there.
Don't believe me? Try getting the Pinays living overseas who advertise on DIA. Not a chance if, like many of us, you are an aged creep, with a good banak balance but lack of power in the pistol.
One more important thing to think of. Young penniless Pinays do a lot of bonking, in beaches and woods and other places "where the ragged people go". If you want bang for your buck, that is the place to go.
I could relat what I did but that will only get censored. I like playing the game this way. More bang for the buck. As that pushes boundaries. Horses for courses, of course.
Ingat
Mwaaaaah
[/QUOTE]Wow you are the man! I find it interesting that you went to Butuan and San Pedro in Laguna. How did you find those locations?
You also state that you got all for free (parties and booze) but yet you also say "Your wallet is your advantage". So you are saying you did not tip any girls? If that is true, I am surprised you made out of there alive.
Not flaming, just wondering out loud.
Robb
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Dont be scare of censorship here, so please do share.
I am in Manila within a few days (but scared that the vulcano-eruption in Iceland may delay my trip since the ashes are expected to stop flights all over nothern europe for the next couple of days), and will stay 11 nights.
I have lined up 18 ladies for the 11 nights, so I am curious if I manage to work it all out. I have 5 previous friends that will meet for sure, but putting them on hold, since I am always looking for new opportunities.
I hope to be able to share with you guys how I approached the ladies via DiA, Tagged and further chatted with them on YM before I "landed" them.
Ingatz
[QUOTE=The Departed]
I could relat what I did but that will only get censored.
Ingat
Mwaaaaah
[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mattrick]Interesting post DP even getting a suggestion for a RoD link! For me a 'turnkey' means a ready made family, step in and your good to go. What your talking about is a neighborhood 'mamasan'. :D
Knowing she doesn't have much of a chance with you but wants to see you happy and is willing to intoduce you to family or friends! Matchmaking is a national pastime in many circles. Have met many women this way myself and some were real gems![/QUOTE]
I love this idea.
It is amazing how such a simple suggestion like this switches on a light in my brain".
I can do this with all of the women that I have "ignored" in the past because they didn't do much for me.
Thanks
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Using the Turnkey
Dia is a great experiment. Indeed, I was going to post here some time ago about an odd "lady" that others had rightly highlighted.
To get back to my track. If you go around the cheap suburbs (not the ghettoes or the suicide missions), you will see lots of young guys hanging around, tongues dragging off the ground like dobs sniffing a b-tch in heat. They might shoot some hoops or drink some revolting cheap beer etc. But their main focus is cheap pussy and how to charm their ways into the forgotten women who are everywhere the poor people are.
What do those women do for entertainment? They fuck these young dudes and hang out in Internet cafes close to them. Most likely, you will never come across those cafes.
When you are in Makati and Ermita, you are in the wrong area. It is the same everywhere: Paris, Roma, even fucked up Berlin. So you have to get your ass to where the action is and not get killed in the process.
You need to get about a dozen suspects, minimum, on line in any time window. I go on about my stress levels and all kinds of domestic issues. But I tell them I am in the Philippines for two things (as well as the tourist shit I always mention which has no interest for me).
These two things are to find the right woman for me and to fuck all round me. My heart needs the first, my stress needs the second. (My heart needs the first like it needs a big flesh wound)
I have menrtioned two places but I have got many others. Then I start the pruning process. Too much familiarity with too many foreigners, out. Sick mothers, buffalo, daughters, sons, out. Insistent I help with pending fianncial crises, out.
I always bring Borocay or some other shit hole we should go to cement our love into the equation. Then I suggest the idea of a friend. When that is accepted, I suggest I fuck the friend, we do 3 somes etc. That narrows the field down more. Then I get serious with those who are left.
I only need one or two to win. And usually a motel, where locals stay.
It takes a bit of time and effort but it pays off. They insist on being your guide. You get to do From Here to Eternity, fucking on a moonlit beach and any other innocent thing you want.
Downside is it can get a little claustrophobic. Of course, you have to go shopping (with a mini army of amateur hookers in tow). But it depends on you how you control your wallet.
You obviously have to take security measures, like guarding your room with all the traffic and letting them know it is your room, not theirs. But hey, I cannot fuck them for you too.
There is no point relating what I do or how I acheive my goals as they get cut. I simply avoid the tourist hookers and shop local and non professional. I am sure others here are much better at it.
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rechiell of Cebu says---
i dont like horny people so if you are one of them please STAY AWAY.,,,,,!!!!=')
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re: rechiell of Cebu
Sadly, judging by that photo, I don't think she'll have any problems with horny guys.
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Hello guys... MY HEART IS FOR SALE!!!! IF YOU CAN AFFORD,PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND A MESSAGE...
unfadingrose
Is she aware of what she is writing?
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i love only korean.,.,.eheheheh
i love only korean.,.,.eheheheh
cute.,,jolly.,.,and soo very pasaway.,.,
my y.m
[email]kimlaicalyjhen_10@yahoo.com[/email]
and heres my # 09392010335
if u are not korean or japanese dont contact me ok.,./,
cuttie_anne18 from angeles
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DIA girl - Ozamis
Check out this one's profile - the pic looks OK too
pennylove46
i am sexy woman have great tits...wants to befor fun...
simple like sexy hot girl..with a nice tits and nice body too..and sometimes just made me fun...
i want some sexy man that make me happy all the time...and sexy too..and sometimes for fun..
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Perfect Little Body
Those seeking a low mileage girl with a slim body and great firm boobs might like top check out Angel. DIA "Angel in Phils" with the spaces. The current DIA photo is not the strongest she has but you can ask for her facebook etc, She's based in Iligan so gets very few visitors, She spent about a week with me in Cagayan and could also travel to Cebu if you get her a ticket. Very willing to please. Her teeth are not in great shape but otherwise there is little to complain about. She's short of cash now so OKied me to mention her ID here.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Those seeking a low mileage girl with a slim body and great firm boobs might like top check out Angel. DIA "Angel in Phils" with the spaces. The current DIA photo is not the strongest she has but you can ask for her facebook etc, She's based in Iligan so gets very few visitors, She spent about a week with me in Cagayan and could also travel to Cebu if you get her a ticket. Very willing to please. Her teeth are not in great shape but otherwise there is little to complain about. She's short of cash now so OKied me to mention her ID here.[/QUOTE]
Greg - that has got to be one of the best profiles I have ever read on DIA. Very very sensible; states it exactly as it is; says exactly what she wants, and is very aware of what guys on DIA get up to.
I just hope that anyone who contacts her is actually planning to visit her or have her visit him AND will not try to short-change her. I also hope they will treat her well too because she comes across as a very real, genuine, provincia with very big goals and dreams. You have validated her profile by your post.
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yes she's a diamond in the rough
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Greg - that has got to be one of the best profiles I have ever read on DIA. Very very sensible; states it exactly as it is; says exactly what she wants, and is very aware of what guys on DIA get up to.
I just hope that anyone who contacts her is actually planning to visit her or have her visit him AND will not try to short-change her. I also hope they will treat her well too because she comes across as a very real, genuine, provincia with very big goals and dreams. You have validated her profile by your post.[/QUOTE]
If she were smart she would move somewhere where there is more chance to meet foreign guys. With her body she could be earning 30,000 P + a month in Angeles or Manila and if someone found her before she got to jaded they would probably fix her teeth and take her long term. But instead she stays in Iligan rather wasting her golden years.
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rechiell
you looking for a friend or a boyfriend?
looking for boyfriend..,,,:)
how about you????hehhehe
but boyfriend will be horny, wouldnt he?
nope i dont want horny one..,,,::((
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A girl who really couldn't say "no"
Had a rather pleasant day here in Puerto Princesa. PP is actually one of my fave provincial capitals in the Phils. It's much less polluted than most towns in the Phils, has a bunch of pretty good restaurants and some decent hotel options. Hibiscus Gardens and Puerto Pension are both well run and stylish places in the centre. Royal Oberoi is a very poorly run place about 10km out of town, but has a very big pool and is set in tropical gardens with wifi access etc so its kind of pleasant to lounge away ones time there.
The crystal clear waters and islands of Honda Bay are just 15kms away. And El nido an arduous 6-7 hour van ride.
As with most provincial towns in the Phils there is plenty of sexual fun to be had but it is not as ubiquitous or easy to come by as in Manila, Cebu and Angeles. There are a bunch of bars here but I've never ventured into them so can't report what the action is like.
There are few girls from PP in DIA or the other dating sites. They dont get the "traffic" the girls in Manila or Cebu get and are not into scamming in the way the Mindanao girls and LBs are. So I rely mostly on Tagged for prospects.
I have a regular girl here who is now bisexual and loves to hunt for new girls with me. Today's catch turned out to be a deaf/mute girl. I was in two minds whether this would be a good idea, but it turned out to be great fun. Unlike some recent efforts she was super slim but with good B cup boobs and at 24 not passed it. I didn't mention my "friend" in the texts. I find that if you talk about having a threesome before hand few inexperienced girls will be up for it as they are scared the other girl will be jealous, however if you just introduce your existing girl as a freind when the new girl arrives and the existing girl is kind and friendly they soon get into the idea and you can generally get into a pretty full on threesome. generaly speqaking the girls are more inexperienced girls are much more comfortable with female company than your company so having an additional girl around is generally seenn to be a good thing as long as she is friendly. The deaf girl stayed the afternoon and gave me 3 rounds before we took her out to dinner and was very grateful for the 500P I gave her. She was super tight at first so was obviously low mileage but got really turned onn and wet whilst sucking my freinds boobs.
Those who have suffered from nagging wives should give these deaf/mute girls a spin there are some real advantages. No more "embarrassing silences" at dinner as its always silent. No more nagging or bolshiness. And she cant say "no".
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Greg - that has got to be one of the best profiles I have ever read on DIA. [/QUOTE]@ GL
Who do you think you are that you have to make up the profile wordings for the girls you meet and then "sell" them here?
I am fine with my critisizm here because I met one of the ladies promoted by you here and this was PURE bullshit.
I don't tell the name of the girl but Why are you doing this?
Are you someone special?
Let the guys discover themselves w/o you pre-riding the girls for us.
Thats disgusting and awful.
STOP doing this.
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Seen and not heard
[QUOTE=GregLondon]
Those who have suffered from nagging wives should give these deaf/mute girls a spin there are some real advantages. No more "embarrassing silences" at dinner as its always silent. No more nagging or bolshiness. And she cant say "no".[/QUOTE]
I can vouch for that. Never had a Filipina deaf/mute but I used to have a really tiny and very cute, mute Thai gf. She was so very sweet and seemingly vulnerable and made the most erotic little squeaking noises when she got excited, like an orgasmic mouse on ice!
She was such a horny little rodent that I suspect that 'no' would not have been in her vocabulary even had she been able to speak.
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Rampana,
I definitely don't want to get into a fight here but Greg -- whom I've never met -- helped me find this great girl when I was in the South a few months ago. He really went out of his way to help me. I think he's just trying to help these girls. If you don't like it, it's easy enough to steer clear of them. The writing is so different that it is obvious who has had help. Please post some interesting stories of your own. Looking forward to reading them.
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when I used to be going to Cuba, I spent the night with a deaf girl. She was part of the whole gang that used to hang out on 23rd St., the main intersection in the new part of Havana. It was definitely an experience. I found a really weird to have so much trouble communicating with someone. I think she could lip read -- I'm not sure how my American accent would have affected her ability to understand my Spanish --but I couldn't understand anything she said.
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Rampana, do you understand the purpose of this website? Maybe another site like Christian Singles is more appropriate for you.
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Dia
Her name is honeymiz and this is what she says. Admirable in my POV
bad girl....bar girl not camgirl
bargirl, stupid dirty girl fucking girl thats the work of girl work in bar...being bar girl is not easy.i know most guy if they knows girl work in bar he dont repect becoz for them bargirl are for having fun only,,, thats why i down myself becoz i know girl like me no one will seroiuse coz im a kind of a girl that showing and selling body like a piece of meet in a market..so all i can say u can look who i am but u cant judges who i am..so now, nothing cant hide it .so if u here for fun just go in bar..coz im here to be honest not making drama....im crazy and funny...im also bad but a good way...i like having fun...jelouse girl?bulshit.i hate that....if u want to be my friend u can email me and i reply u as long as i can
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Her name is honeymiz and this is what she says. Admirable in my POV
bad girl....bar girl not camgirl
bargirl, stupid dirty girl fucking girl thats the work of girl work in bar...being bar girl is not easy.i know most guy if they knows girl work in bar he dont repect becoz for them bargirl are for having fun only,,, thats why i down myself becoz i know girl like me no one will seroiuse coz im a kind of a girl that showing and selling body like a piece of meet in a market..so all i can say u can look who i am but u cant judges who i am..so now, nothing cant hide it .so if u here for fun just go in bar..coz im here to be honest not making drama....im crazy and funny...im also bad but a good way...i like having fun...jelouse girl?bulshit.i hate that....if u want to be my friend u can email me and i reply u as long as i can[/QUOTE]
I know her and I talked her last weekend about her profile on DIA.
Robb
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You miss the point
[QUOTE=Rampana]@ GL
Who do you think you are that you have to make up the profile wordings for the girls you meet and then "sell" them here?
I am fine with my critisizm here because I met one of the ladies promoted by you here and this was PURE bullshit.
I don't tell the name of the girl but Why are you doing this?
Are you someone special?
Let the guys discover themselves w/o you pre-riding the girls for us.
Thats disgusting and awful.
STOP doing this.[/QUOTE]
That is absolute bollocks and thank god we don't have too many like you on the forums, otherwise it would be all a waste of time, dominated by non-contributors and ego driven idiots of whom we have too many to begin with.
The primary purpose of the forum is the exchange of information and, in its ultimate manifestation, the exchange of real time contact details of available girls. In this respect, the contribution of Greg London is outstanding whereas yours is minimal.
ISG is like an iceberg - we see the tip in the forums but there is much more going on beneath the surface with members exchanging information. Some of my best contacts have been made in this way and I have similarly helped out others to connect with likely lasses.
If you, and one or two others, had their way, ISG would be a sterile wasteland without reason or purpose. Thankfully it isn't.
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[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]Rampana, do you understand the purpose of this website? Maybe another site like Christian Singles is more appropriate for you.[/QUOTE]Maybe you're right.
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Sad realities of life for some girls
Ive known a super hot lady for about 2 years now. Lives in province and we have met many times, when she had a wonderful personality, was most sexual girl I have known putting everything into her and my satisfaction.
Got pregnant by some Californian guy about 4 years ago. He would send her US$200 per month which allowed her to live. About a year ago he stopped sending money, typhoon Onday wiped out her house and her workplace flooded so job disappeared etc.
Today she sends me a very depressing message on YM:
"Sorry for it is really a depression of having nothing,the life of having nothing to eat,life of always having empty stomach,depression of not knowing how to have a better life for my daughter coz of the situation,the headache from mr California,how to help my family, lots of things on my mind. It is all hurting me sir."
I cn only say thank goodness I have an easier life. And yes Ive tried to help the poor girl who is one of the sweetest Ive ever met. Sometimes life is just toygh for some of these sweet ladies that we love so much..
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[QUOTE=Rampana]Maybe you're right.[/QUOTE]Meant to be very ironic from me :)
I stick with everything I said and would reconfirm this also over and over.
Just to make the point clear!
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ive known a super hot lady for about 2 years now. Lives in province and we have met many times, when she had a wonderful personality, was most sexual girl I have known putting everything into her and my satisfaction.
Got pregnant by some Californian guy about 4 years ago. He would send her US$200 per month which allowed her to live. About a year ago he stopped sending money, typhoon Onday wiped out her house and her workplace flooded so job disappeared etc.
Today she sends me a very depressing message on YM:
"Sorry for it is really a depression of having nothing,the life of having nothing to eat,life of always having empty stomach,depression of not knowing how to have a better life for my daughter coz of the situation,the headache from mr California,how to help my family, lots of things on my mind. It is all hurting me sir."
I cn only say thank goodness I have an easier life. And yes Ive tried to help the poor girl who is one of the sweetest Ive ever met. Sometimes life is just toygh for some of these sweet ladies that we love so much..[/QUOTE]Totally agree on the live's of these girls. It's depressing as hell, however let me check this for a moment.
Time line sounds funny. The guy could have lost his job in the economy crash (or died). I know many girls who's guys lost their business / work last year. Which helps us who can still monger but the economy also ruined PI girls and Isaan income streams. I know two mongers who even asked if I was interested in taking up their girls for them.
I hope the guy wasn't trying to sponsor her for 200 a month, better then nothing I guess. At the same time if he thought he was sponsoring her and you were tapping her, and she was tapping others, then I guess I'm not feeling all that sorry.
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Rampana, I think you are being unfriendly to one of the best assets of this site.
Maybe you should tell us what happened that made you so mad. You must have meet the girl who is 23 from Cebu. If she was not like her profile, then what could have possibly been so bad?
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I think the term is " Succinct"
Ms Janyll Bequilla of Cebu.
"I want to meet a foreigner to help my all problems like money & love making "
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]Rampana, I think you are being unfriendly to one of the best assets of this site.[/QUOTE]That´s NOT the point.
I hear what you say.
Leave me with my point of view as I am leaving you with your point of view.
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Rampana
[QUOTE=Rampana]That´s NOT the point.
I hear what you say.
Leave me with my point of view as I am leaving you with your point of view.[/QUOTE]If you make a point of view public here, at least be prepared to defend your position. Other board members have been too kind, personally I think you are an [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].
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Rampana
[QUOTE=Rampana]That´s NOT the point.
I hear what you say.
Leave me with my point of view as I am leaving you with your point of view.[/QUOTE]Sorry you had a disappointing experience with one of the girls I have mentioned in the past and thanks to the several members who have written in support.
I think the key things to remember are.
1 The experience of one guy with a particular girl can only be in indication of the experience you might have because (a) your tastes may differ from mine and (b) the girl may well react and behave different with one guy than with another. That's life. If you are looking for product consistency go eat at McDonalds
2 For the girls who I have helped to write or improve their profiles I have tried my best to describe her and her situation as realistically as possible. Of course the end result tends to be something that looks more "intelligently written" than the usual "simple girl accept me for who I am blurb" and if you were looking for an intellectual equal then I agree it would be misleading,. However that is not really what the majority of guys who come to the phils are looking for.
3 If you would prefer to find girls that I or other guys have not met, then just avoid the ones I have mentioned, there's about 10 million to choose from so that shouldn't be a problem.
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Rampana
Sorry for the confusion, Big Larry's post was actually from me GL, I let him use my laptop a couple of months ago and I guess his ISG log in details were saved by my backup browser.
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More Rampana
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Sorry for the confusion, Big Larry's post was actually from me GL, I let him use my laptop a couple of months ago and I guess his ISG log in details were saved by my backup browser.[/QUOTE]
Rampana
Not sure why GL should bother with a reply and why am i? :)).
Your FR was out of order, based on a man (assume you are) of 16 posts, none of any real relevance, much complaining...and you have not got a PM function. When your information and FRs etc of relevance to this forum, and you show respect then maybe you will be taken seriously....
As for GL, he is a good guy, we have swapped notes and girls and he does his best to help girls who mainly have limited chances in life due to where they live etc....
I doubt if you have been to PI despite saying you met one of GL's DIA girls as if you had you would realise the poverty they live in/around, the optimism they have when they meet a 'white guy' and the disappointment when he turns out to be an asshole....
GL, like me, does what he can to help. I find work for the girls when I can (real work) and some happy to meet my friends as long as I think they are respectful, generous, kind and not a complete asshole....and I have ways to find out if you are the latter :D (in your case it is easy to spot :))
So suggest you now rethink your ISG strategy, come to PI, maye useful contributions before you criticise further. Do your homework, work the boards and meet girls, be disappointed, be surprised and then maybe you will be a useful contributor
Otherwise go back to the church you came from and shag the priest...or maybe he does that to you :D
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Fellowship of Common Interests
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]
As for GL, he is a good guy, we have swapped notes and girls and he does his best to help girls who mainly have limited chances in life due to where they live etc....
GL, like me, does what he can to help.......
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This forum has been extremely helpful to me in many ways, and not the least being assistance from guys like WR, GL, Manta Ray, Lenience and others who go out of their way to help when they think they can.
I have had numerous PMs from these guys (unsolicited but gratefully received) with all manner of tips and advice, even cp numbers and introductions to follow up.
Because this happened to me then now I do the same for these and other guys too as a form of reciprocal payback. What we see published on the boards is just the tip of a quite large iceberg of "behind-the-scenes" fellowship and support.
That is what ISG is all about. May it long prosper and continue.
Guys like Rampana are just simply ungrateful, that's all.
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I checked out GL's Angel on DIA and she is hot. He writes good reports and seems a generous guy who understands camraderie. Its because of guys like him that I have resumed posting (a bit).
Sadly, given the lack of any screening process, the board is still polluted by "members" (using the term loosely) like Rampana. Dude, if you a looking for virgins try cherryblossoms and avoid DIA. Better yet, in ANY town in the PI there is an Iglesia ni Cristo, usually bigger and nicer than the Jollibee. Go there and ask to attend services, they will warmly welcome you (proseltyzing is as prevalent as pregnancy in the PI).
Someone mentioned deaf girls as an antidote to nagging wife syndrome. Well there is one in Angeles named Judith who is quite the active freelancer (I've seen her ID). She loves sex and is VERY agreeable to most anything. Her eyes are SUPER expressive. VERY GFE but nasty too. Had a baby a few months back so not a hardbody. I mention her, and post her picture, because she will like the increase in business (: Many here who have been to AC my recognize her (she used to be a door girl at Atlantis but now works in a clothing shop)
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Guys like Rampana are just simply ungrateful, that's all.[/QUOTE]That is again NOT the point. How dare you calling me ungrateful-
At WR:
Misconception: I have been to Phils. Around 12 times past 20 yrs and I am NOT a newbie in this. I know what I am talking about. No further comments on this point.
At GL:
Thank you for clarification. This post was addressed to YOU, so finally you give your statement for that. I was waiting for that and all other guys responses have been quite hurtful and bit a lot insulting for me.
It wasn't meant bugging YOU. I am European, maybe having a bit of different point of view on these things.
I just prefer looking for girls on my own and I don't doubt the intention of this board to do otherwise.
Although I am quite fluent in English language, it is rather difficult for me to read and understand all of the English written sometimes.
To say it in my mother tongue: "Nix für ungut, GL". This is meant as a kind of asking you forgiveness.
After receiving your reply, I want to end this fruitless discussion here now.
Ram
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Otherwise go back to the church you came from and shag the priest...or maybe he does that to you :D[/QUOTE]This again is a very insulting one. You should be thrown out of this forum for giving such an heavily insulting statement to me.
I don't know why the Moderators of this forum - if any - dont give a consequence to such a heavy insulting.
I was just giving my opinion to GL, that´s all.
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It's OK I think alot of the heat from this topic was generated through a "lost in translation" between German and English, and you got quite a bit of stick from the guys many of whom have tried one or two of the girls I mentioned and have generally I think had positive experiences. As I said before different guys have different tastes and one of the charms of tackling the semi pro scene is that it's very much about two way interaction. Unlike a bar girl who will get a roasting from the mamasan if the customer is not happy,the DIA girl is of course a free agent and sometimes the chemistry will work with a guy sometimes not. As WR has said it's all about trying it out and sometimes you are going to get very positive results sometimes disappointments.
There tends to be relatively little sharing of contact details on this site not least because there is a very high ratio of leechers extracting info and offering not much in return to valuable contributors. The other issue is that some guys use the referral as a way of getting a date with a girl who would not normally wish to date them. I just got a roasting from a girl who said that she went on date with a guy who said he was a buddy of mine but turned out to be an old Chinese guy with limited English who had no connection with me at all.
Many of the guys on the list are just dropping in for short trips to the PI and for people in such a position having details of DIA girls who have at least one satisfied guy can be very useful given the amount of time wasting that we all know can take place with girls who bring their Aunt or ladyboy pal, are "open minded about sex .... once we are married" etc etc.
Those who have been to the PI many times or have weeks to spare, will generally wish to generate their own list of contacts and are probably only interested in referrals regarding girls who have something special or unusual to offer.
GL
[QUOTE=Rampana]That is again NOT the point. How dare you calling me ungrateful-
At WR:
Misconception: I have been to Phils. Around 12 times past 20 yrs and I am NOT a newbie in this. I know what I am talking about. No further comments on this point.
At GL:
Thank you for clarification. This post was addressed to YOU, so finally you give your statement for that. I was waiting for that and all other guys responses have been quite hurtful and bit a lot insulting for me.
It wasn't meant bugging YOU. I am European, maybe having a bit of different point of view on these things.
I just prefer looking for girls on my own and I don't doubt the intention of this board to do otherwise.
Although I am quite fluent in English language, it is rather difficult for me to read and understand all of the English written sometimes.
To say it in my mother tongue: "Nix für ungut, GL". This is meant as a kind of asking you forgiveness.
After receiving your reply, I want to end this fruitless discussion here now.
Ram[/QUOTE]
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Monger On Monger Crime?
[QUOTE=Rampana]this again is a very insulting one. You should be thrown out of this forum for giving such an heavily insulting statement to me.
I don't know why the Moderators of this forum - if any - dont give a consequence to such a heavy insulting.
I was just giving my opinion to GL, that´s all.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Rampana]this again is a very insulting one. You should be thrown out of this forum for giving such an heavily insulting statement to me.
I don't know why the Moderators of this forum - if any - dont give a consequence to such a heavy insulting.
I was just giving my opinion to GL, that´s all.[/QUOTE]Rampana you presented yourself to this forum in all the wrong ways. No reports, no information, no nothing you just came in flaming in an opinionated manner which was way off-base with what this forum is about. With that being said one man opinions means nothing when measured against another. Now that is not an opinion.
Get some decent reports under your belt then go on a self righteous flaming campaign. One thing though flaming is against forum rules but I can’t imagine the forum architect thinking a bunch of third world sex scavengers were going to be nice to each other.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]It's OK I think alot of the heat from this topic was generated through a "lost in translation" between German and English, and you got quite a bit of stick from the guys many of whom have tried one or two of the girls I mentioned and have generally I think had positive experiences.
As WR has said it's all about trying it out and sometimes you are going to get very positive results sometimes disappointments.
There tends to be relatively little sharing of contact details on this site not least because there is a very high ratio of leechers extracting info and offering not much in return to valuable contributors. The other issue is that some guys use the referral as a way of getting a date with a girl who would not normally wish to date them. I just got a roasting from a girl who said that she went on date with a guy who said he was a buddy of mine but turned out to be an old Chinese guy with limited English who had no connection with me at all.
GL[/QUOTE]
Good point GL, there are so many lurkers and assholes who can ruin your reputation in a heart beat. Had same myself and is very bad.
But you and I both know how we do our best to weed out those types but we still don't succeed all the time....
I share with those I trust and if anyone lets me down the board will know as it is a useful forum for that information also
And guys, make useful contributions.....many posts but all asking for contacts or complaining etc is not what I call informative and no way you will ever get contacts..also play by the rules of the guy from whom you ask the info....if guys dont play by rules they dont get...if you do it works hence GL and can swap info and contacts with no worry
See you soon GL
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[QUOTE=Rampana]this again is a very insulting one. You should be thrown out of this forum for giving such an heavily insulting statement to me.
I don't know why the Moderators of this forum - if any - dont give a consequence to such a heavy insulting.
I was just giving my opinion to GL, that´s all.[/QUOTE]
LOL
Rampana....do us all a favout, post a FR (ie many) of useful info about PI and show us you know the place, the nuances of the country, the girls...and then we will take yolu seriously...
18 posts nothing of use...my good mate Fifty Fifty had around 50% RODs in his first 20 posts......and he get the contacts and respect
Try that for a change......but first you must visit PI...but you say you have - but of course there was no FR about the girl you said was hopeless etc..
so maybe you cam with girls only....but please post useful insights as a newbie.....12 times in 20 years and yet no insights....no FRs...sorry if you want to play in ISG best do better (as my teacher would say...well not about ISG of course :D)
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DIA for Indonesia?
After 4 months in PI , I'm starting to think where next especially as the rainy season is approaching. It's many years since I went to Indonesia. the indo board doenst have the equivalent section and obviously 80%+ of the DIA girls are Phils but was curious as to whether people had had luck using DIA or other sites (which ones?) for Indonesia and what the differences in price/attitude/easy etc are?
Any insight gratefully received. GL
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Indonesia
[QUOTE=GregLondon]After 4 months in PI , I'm starting to think where next especially as the rainy season is approaching. It's many years since I went to Indonesia. the indo board doenst have the equivalent section and obviously 80%+ of the DIA girls are Phils but was curious as to whether people had had luck using DIA or other sites (which ones?) for Indonesia and what the differences in price/attitude/easy etc are?
Any insight gratefully received. GL[/QUOTE]There's ton's of cheap pussy on tap in Indonesia. Really no need to go on dating sites. Read up on the Indon board.
Tally Ho!
AV
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Indones
[QUOTE=GregLondon]After 4 months in PI , I'm starting to think where next especially as the rainy season is approaching. It's many years since I went to Indonesia. the indo board doenst have the equivalent section and obviously 80%+ of the DIA girls are Phils but was curious as to whether people had had luck using DIA or other sites (which ones?) for Indonesia and what the differences in price/attitude/easy etc are?
Any insight gratefully received. GL[/QUOTE]Gl,
Yes read the indo part of the board. The difference between PI and Indo is as follows (kinda). Girls in PI are kind of unique. They will date most any foreigner (some won't like black men, however). They are happy to hold a kano's hand who is 3x her age.
You won't see any 21-yr-old indogirls holding hands in a mall with 55-yr-old bule, like you will in phils. They stick closer to their own age. However, as Amavida said, there is plenty of cheap labor there (called ayam, or cewek). To the south in Jakarta are several bars in the 'Block M' shopping area, all clustered in a street called Jalan Falatahan, like LA Cafe. In the center and north are hotels with ayam bars, with a mix of FL and normal gals in for partying most nights (tell the taxi driver CJ's, or BATS). There are huge discos (ie, Stadium) that get going about 11pm most nights, filled with the same mix. There are massage parlours along the north (kota) area. And there are places like fishbowls along the northeast (Manga Besar), where you go and choose a girl, and get to use their 'massage' room for a fee.
All of this is different than phils. In phils its easy to go to LA cafe or AC for talent. Or you can Date In Asia the phils gals and get a regular gf thru chat over a month or two. Indonesian girls are a bit different, they are less likely to want to be one of your 'chatmates for meet-up'. Its the largest muslim country on earth (although some girls are catolic). Easier to shoot for ayam in the bars. Another alternative for indo girls is Adult Friend Finder dot com. Any indo girl you see there is looking to meet up.
Rampana, post something like this one, with information the other gents can use. Or tell about your recent trip. It will get more respect.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Gl,
Yes read the indo part of the board. The difference between PI and Indo is as follows (kinda). Girls in PI are kind of unique. They will date most any foreigner (some won't like black men, however). They are happy to hold a kano's hand who is 3x her age.
You won't see any 21-yr-old indogirls holding hands in a mall with 55-yr-old bule, like you will in phils. They stick closer to their own age. However, as Amavida said, there is plenty of cheap labor there (called ayam, or cewek). To the south in Jakarta are several bars in the 'Block M' shopping area, all clustered in a street called Jalan Falatahan, like LA Cafe. In the center and north are hotels with ayam bars, with a mix of FL and normal gals in for partying most nights (tell the taxi driver CJ's, or BATS). There are huge discos (ie, Stadium) that get going about 11pm most nights, filled with the same mix. There are massage parlours along the north (kota) area. And there are places like fishbowls along the northeast (Manga Besar), where you go and choose a girl, and get to use their 'massage' room for a fee.
All of this is different than phils. In phils its easy to go to LA cafe or AC for talent. Or you can Date In Asia the phils gals and get a regular gf thru chat over a month or two. Indonesian girls are a bit different, they are less likely to want to be one of your 'chatmates for meet-up'. Its the largest muslim country on earth (although some girls are catolic). Easier to shoot for ayam in the bars. Another alternative for indo girls is Adult Friend Finder dot com. Any indo girl you see there is looking to meet up.
Rampana, post something like this one, with information the other gents can use. Or tell about your recent trip. It will get more respect.[/QUOTE]
Thanks WC that's a very useful summary. You are right Phils is a rather unique place in terms of the ability of 50-60 year old guys to get college girls to hang around as girlfriends. I'm mid 40s and beginning to struggle to get this sort of experience in destinations such as Colombia and China, anyone happen to know of any other countries comparable to PI in this respect?
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Unfortunately things are changing. In Latin American dating sites, the age ranges the girls put on their profiles are constantly getting lower. Some 10 years ago, when dating sites first started, Colombia and Peru were ALMOST as good as the Philippines. Now forget it. I haven't even bothered to join one in years. All the young guys in the States and Europe discovered the sites and things went down the tubes.
Also I hate to say it, but when I compare last year and this year, I see that many of the cuter girls' FH profiles which were almost all "from 18-80" are now also dropping in age. There are even some with 25 as an upper limit.
But if the prohibition of morning after pill sales stays constant, then we should still have some good years left given young cutie demographics.
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Now I'm confused
I don't know whether El Papa is to be lambasted for helping 80m people to continue to live in squalor or congratulated on a cunning plan to supply the order generation with young and nubile pussy.
I too am nervous about how long the party can last in RP. Given the brewing violence in Thailand aren't some of the hordes that historically haven't looked past Thailand increasingly going to look at RP as an alternative. Given the attractions of RP I'm really surprised it hasn't emerged as a destination for fun loving young European guys.
[QUOTE=David_33]Unfortunately things are changing. In Latin American dating sites, the age ranges the girls put on their profiles are constantly getting lower. Some 10 years ago, when dating sites first started, Colombia and Peru were ALMOST as good as the Philippines. Now forget it. I haven't even bothered to join one in years. All the young guys in the States and Europe discovered the sites and things went down the tubes.
Also I hate to say it, but when I compare last year and this year, I see that many of the cuter girls' FH profiles which were almost all "from 18-80" are now also dropping in age. There are even some with 25 as an upper limit.
But if the prohibition of morning after pill sales stays constant, then we should still have some good years left given young cutie demographics.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=David_33]Unfortunately things are changing. In Latin American dating sites, the age ranges the girls put on their profiles are constantly getting lower. Some 10 years ago, when dating sites first started, Colombia and Peru were ALMOST as good as the Philippines. Now forget it. I haven't even bothered to join one in years. All the young guys in the States and Europe discovered the sites and things went down the tubes.
Also I hate to say it, but when I compare last year and this year, I see that many of the cuter girls' FH profiles which were almost all "from 18-80" are now also dropping in age. There are even some with 25 as an upper limit.
But if the prohibition of morning after pill sales stays constant, then we should still have some good years left given young cutie demographics.[/QUOTE]
Bad girls+ money = Good fuck
Good girls+ Romance= Good fuck
Simple as that
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Thanks WC that's a very useful summary. You are right Phils is a rather unique place in terms of the ability of 50-60 year old guys to get college girls to hang around as girlfriends. I'm mid 40s and beginning to struggle to get this sort of experience in destinations such as Colombia and China, anyone happen to know of any other countries comparable to PI in this respect?[/QUOTE]
Do not about Colombia much. But In China age difference does not mean much . You can have young GF as long as you take care of them. So many Businessmen ( Mostly ethnic Chinese) have young very pretty GF. Unique thing about China is they do not want childeren readily like Phi. I personally know some businessmen friends of mine who are Hong Kong Chinese having young 20 something girls as GF. Many a times we all party together. They are even willing to introduce their friends. Caveat is you should be ready to swill as much as 10,000RMB a month for expenses. Not cheap like PHI. In my experience Chinese girls are more devoted to you unlike Phi girls. In other words they are unlikely to fool around behind your back. They may go with their friends drinking and dancing but maybe not pick up anybody for sex.
I had a sweet young Gf 19 years old from Hubei who was such a darling. Took her to lot of places and she had no qualms about being with a older foreigner. I had to get rid of her because she was making grand future plans for me and her.
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Yeah, but check Chinese demographics. How many girls to how many men? Given the shortage of females there are going to be a lot of pissed off guys in that country. Look how they are going crazy and stabbing and hammering little kids in school rooms.
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Indonesia is a Great alternative IMHO
In response to GL's post, I disagree with Westcoast about ease of older bule getting hot young cewek. LOTS of Jakarta expats have young hotties on their arm, they just don't take them to Top Gun etc. (check the food court at Pasaraya, for example). In Kota LOADS of Old Chinese have young hotties they sponsor; IMHO many of them would prefer a bule BF but are scared because of language issues, know how to meet them etc. Remember, anti Chinese sentiment is VERY strong in Indonesia (more than Islam inspired anti americanism). Examples are the fact that Glodok gets burned down every few years by anti Chinese mobs run amok and Indonesian law still prohibits important of anything written in Chinese characters.
Outside Jakarta is even better. The Indo lovers will send me hate messages for exposing the secret but too bad; I don't want all the Thailovers fleeing to the PI when the shit really hits the fan in Krung Thep! Let them spread out to different places. Indonesia is HUGE, it aint just Jawa.
The big difference (and forget Islam, it aint an issue!) is language. WAY less Indonesian girls can read or write English. The key here is that Bahasa is super simple to learn, the easiest, most logical language ever. Guys spend YEARS trying to learn tonal languages like Thai or Vietnamese yet in a month they could have Bahasa down. Buy an alfalink electronic translator for $25 or so and a Bahasa dictionary. Once you meet girls there play with them teaching them English and them teaching you some Bahasa. They love it and you'll quickly get to where you can converse in Bahasa.
David's post explains succinctly why I no longer go to South America (although I am MUCH younger than he is LOL!) If I DID return it would be to visit him, and his awesome stable of babes in Lima, rather than post invasion Colombia (my former stomping grounds). While I think the PI is tops, Indonesia is not that far behind in second place. With the dry season begininng there and the wet season already under way in the PI, coupled with possible post election unrest (especially if GMA tries to stay in office p[ast June 30), not a bad time for Indonesia at all.
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Good feedback
[QUOTE=Surfer]In response to GL's post, I disagree with Westcoast about ease of older bule getting hot young cewek. LOTS of Jakarta expats have young hotties on their arm, they just don't take them to Top Gun etc. (check the food court at Pasaraya, for example). In Kota LOADS of Old Chinese have young hotties they sponsor; IMHO many of them would prefer a bule BF but are scared because of language issues, know how to meet them etc. Remember, anti Chinese sentiment is VERY strong in Indonesia (more than Islam inspired anti americanism). Examples are the fact that Glodok gets burned down every few years by anti Chinese mobs run amok and Indonesian law still prohibits important of anything written in Chinese characters.
Outside Jakarta is even better. The Indo lovers will send me hate messages for exposing the secret but too bad; I don't want all the Thailovers fleeing to the PI when the shit really hits the fan in Krung Thep! Let them spread out to different places. Indonesia is HUGE, it aint just Jawa.
The big difference (and forget Islam, it aint an issue!) is language. WAY less Indonesian girls can read or write English. The key here is that Bahasa is super simple to learn, the easiest, most logical language ever. Guys spend YEARS trying to learn tonal languages like Thai or Vietnamese yet in a month they could have Bahasa down. Buy an alfalink electronic translator for $25 or so and a Bahasa dictionary. Once you meet girls there play with them teaching them English and them teaching you some Bahasa. They love it and you'll quickly get to where you can converse in Bahasa.
David's post explains succinctly why I no longer go to South America (although I am MUCH younger than he is LOL!) If I DID return it would be to visit him, and his awesome stable of babes in Lima, rather than post invasion Colombia (my former stomping grounds). While I think the PI is tops, Indonesia is not that far behind in second place. With the dry season begininng there and the wet season already under way in the PI, coupled with possible post election unrest (especially if GMA tries to stay in office p[ast June 30), not a bad time for Indonesia at all.[/QUOTE]
Useful feedback Surfer and others. The Indo boards seem to suggest that massage and bar girls are the way to go in Indonesia. Having been in PI for a while I've gotten used to non professionals - more from an attitude and fun perspective rather than a cost perspective which tends to be swings and roundabouts. Do you have some useful tips for tackling the non pro scene in Indo?
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Is Cherry Blossoms worth it?
To date I've focussed on the free dating sites such as DIA and Tagged. These work fine in more populous and liberated areas such as Cebu and Manila but in less populous and more conservative areas such as here in Palawan one runs out of targets after a while.
I tried the CB 72 hours intro offer (actually they just gave me 24 hours of free service. My initial experience was quite positive. I liked the more pics than DIA feature and the ability to search by location age and weight. generated a few interesting contacts but now they have downgraded me to a non full account.
Interested in views as to whether it is worth the subscription (given the existence of free alternatives), whether there are other fee or free sites worth trying (eg what has people's experience with people.com been? 0 what is the best tactic to get sojething out of CS if I dont upgraded to full membership?
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CB has pros and cons but, on balance, the answer is yes its worth it. They are much stricter about weeding out ladyboys and scammers and the like, plus their site has a an ip log that shows you what country the person with whom you are chatting is located. It also allows 5 pictures per member to DIA's 1.
Facebook is HUGE in Indonesia. TONS of sweet non pros, can get them anywhere just like the PI. The key, and the thing that separates the men from the boys, is how much Bahasa you can pick up because English is VERY limited outside very high end places and the bule ghetto in Block M (South Jakarta).
Some areas are more fertile hunting grounds than others, just like the PI. Central Java is more Islamic so better to focus on East (Surabaya) or West (Jakarta). Sumatra is loaded with poor, isolated provinces just loaded with sweet things intrigued by the idea of a bule BF. You DO have to be sensitive to local cultre, dress modestly , avoid public consumption of alcohol etc. Some risks but great rewards for the intrepid.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Useful feedback Surfer and others. The Indo boards seem to suggest that massage and bar girls are the way to go in Indonesia. Having been in PI for a while I've gotten used to non professionals. More from an attitude and fun perspective rather than a cost perspective which tends to be swings and roundabouts. Do you have some useful tips for tackling the non pro scene in Indo?[/QUOTE]I probably have 3-4 sweet non pros who I can see anytime in Jakarta. I have one or two in Surabaya also but its harder to get there with any degree of frequency.
Id says its probably similar to everyone elses viewpoint. Start on DIA or Tagged or FB, move to YM, suggest a meet and see what happens. On my last Jakarta trip I had 4 in 4 nights and all relatively free (sure, you invite a girl out, of course theres dinner and drinks involved). But the girls are sweet and in 5 years of visiting there I think I've only had one knockback.
Hardly ever go to Blok M. Seems easy enough to meet them in normal settings.
One of my ex regulars has since married a bule. But has saidshes still free to meet me, except can't do overnight anymore.
I took a 22 year old student with me on a Singapore trip last week that was outstanding.
Many Indonesians visit KL (where I mainly live) often, nd I'm often gettting names, hellos and phone numbers on DIA and often these ladies are happy with some whiteboy company, although mostly they are only in the less glamourous hotels.
All in all Indonesia is quite a happy hunting ground totally on par with Philippines.
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Cb
I have noticed in the last year that most of the Pinays are migrating from Friendster to Facebook. The part are very much dislike about the social sites like these are that all off your friends can see each other. For example you will have one girl leave a comment on one of your pictures like ' oh I had so much fun on our trip to Boracay' Now every girl and every girl's family members know you spent a week banging another Pinay when you told her you were out of the country.
I have used CB for the last few years before and during my annual trips. It is by far the best organized and have the least scamers and very few lady-boys. Most of the scamers are deleted before I even read them because other members have reported them. The also now have let you write 3 form letters that you can send out to the girls, instead of having to write a custom note to each of the girls. On DIA they don't allow you to copy and paste emails to the girls. I also like how many search options that CB offers, so you can find your Target Audience much faster and not waste your time on girls who don't meet your requirements.
My 2nd choice would be Filipina Heart. It is simmilar to Cherry Blossoms and cost about the same, $25 a month.
DIA is good if you don't want to spend any money and don't mind sorting thru all the lady boys and scammers. Just be sure to go online during the day, PI local time. If you are looking for hooker or dudes, go on late night PI time.
For me $25 for a month of CB or FH is well worth the money as it eleminates most of the basement boys or bored men who are just taking away the girls time from me.
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Facebook
[QUOTE=Surfer]CB has pros and cons but, on balance, the answer is yes its worth it. They are much stricter about weeding out ladyboys and scammers and the like, plus their site has a an ip log that shows you what country the person with whom you are chatting is located. It also allows 5 pictures per member to DIA's 1.
Facebook is HUGE in Indonesia. TONS of sweet non pros, can get them anywhere just like the PI. The key, and the thing that separates the men from the boys, is how much Bahasa you can pick up because English is VERY limited outside very high end places and the bule ghetto in Block M (South Jakarta).
Some areas are more fertile hunting grounds than others, just like the PI. Central Java is more Islamic so better to focus on East (Surabaya) or West (Jakarta). Sumatra is loaded with poor, isolated provinces just loaded with sweet things intrigued by the idea of a bule BF. You DO have to be sensitive to local cultre, dress modestly , avoid public consumption of alcohol etc. Some risks but great rewards for the intrepid.[/QUOTE]
FB is also big here in Phils now. Friendster is all but dead now. I've not really sussed a way to generate good leads through itas yet, have you had luck with it in Indonesia Surfer? if so hav e you got a technique that you might share with the boys?
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Syncing YM and Cell phone contacts
Has anyone got a smart methodology for syncing phone numbers written to yahoo messenger with a not very sophisticated cell phone (ie no on board syncing capabilities).
i have loads of Cell nos collected and saved in YM contacts. I also have alot stored on my phone . the trouble is my more expensive phone was stolen (occupational hazard of being in phils) so I now have acheapish local one. (Cherry mobile BTW good for dual SIM , but poor battery life (though you can substitute a genuine nokia battery. And slightly frustrating Chinese written Op system)
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[QUOTE=Warbucks]And some won't date white men especially after some white men would have them travel for hours on a hot bus from the province only to reward them with a pot belly, SOGO, a sore pussy and old used cell phone.[/QUOTE]Or maybe they'd love some uneducated black guy, covered in cheap clunky imitation jewellery who dresses like a loser, has a broken down car, and stays in a squalid subdivision.
Yeah he sounds like a real catch. Gee ladies, what are you waiting for?
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]FB is also big here in Phils now.[/QUOTE]Just a side note. If you get a message from a DIA chick if you have girls and they are on FaceBook. You might want to check out your other girls facebook page to see if any of them are friends.
I recently had a girl send me a message on DIA asking if I wanted to meet up for a discrete short time. I thought something was funny and damned if she isn't on the Mrs. Manila's facebook page as a friend. As I've recently been busted for nailing other girls while the Mrs. Was in final exams and am kind of in the dog house a little, I got a little lucky here. (Yeah I'm a chicken shit but Mrs. Manila has got great stamina and good body for me who is open for everything and I mean everything so I want to keep her for a while).
Being the innocent person I am I sent a message back to this DIA girl and told her how much I appreciate the message but I have a GF and that she is welcome to come join us for a 3 some.
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Bling Boy
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Or maybe they'd love some uneducated black guy, covered in cheap clunky imitation jewellery who dresses like a loser, has a broken down car, and stays in a squalid subdivision.
Yeah he sounds like a real catch. Gee ladies, what are you waiting for?[/QUOTE]
Hey FF, you forgot the photo!!
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Facebook can be dangerous in many ways as it creates an evidence trail. Part of what they do on it is play this farming videogame where your friends are neighbors and they build these cyber worlds that aids in escapism. It is almost a cult there.
Unlike friendster, there is no feature listing who viewed your profile so through Mrs Surfers account I can find loads of hotties but, alas, must just look. Some examples of Filipinas on FB
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Dia
I've been chatting to lots of girls from dia and have found that most of the girls have fucked foreigners before. Have you guys found this to be true also? I tend to like girls who haven't had a foreign cock inside any of their holes yet.
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Cherry Blossoms
I put a profile on CB, man I have never received so many winks and emails. I assume most of the women are looking for a green card and better life. But being a monger, I,m looking for puss. My fellow mongers care to expand on your Cherry Blossom hookups.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've been chatting to lots of girls from dia and have found that most of the girls have fucked foreigners before. Have you guys found this to be true also? I tend to like girls who haven't had a foreign cock inside any of their holes yet.[/QUOTE]
If thats what you are looking for go for the ones with the crap photos. Some of these are really cute in reality but they have never met a foreign guy with a good camera to take pics of them. What tends to happen is that the guys go for the girls with great sexy pix then tell them off for having sexy pics which attract other guys.
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FH Freak
Lorena 2225693 from FH is just a freak. Not great to look at but puts on a hell of a webcam show. It's free and she does it 3-4 times a day. and I thought I was a horney dog.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]If thats what you are looking for go for the ones with the crap photos. Some of these are really cute in reality but they have never met a foreign guy with a good camera to take pics of them. What tends to happen is that the guys go for the girls with great sexy pix then tell them off for having sexy pics which attract other guys.[/QUOTE]
And the guys who tell the the girls off are mainly red necks with limited chance of seeing a pinay in the flesh but think they own them based on a YM chat....sad
As GL says sometimes the bland pics of girls can be real winners. And yes many have had a foreign f**k buddy...some maybe my ex or GL's ex as we have had a lot of pinay f**k buddies :D
Seriously the very sexy pictures.....either false or ladyboy on many occasions...rare I find it is the same girl (eg she has added 10+kilos, it was taken 15 years ago..) Did find one on DIA who I called Miss Stunner..and Good Enough met her and was suitably impressed but a rare find, my current fav from Cebu is another in that category as well and GL has met her
Happy hunting
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've been chatting to lots of girls from dia and have found that most of the girls have fucked foreigners before. Have you guys found this to be true also? I tend to like girls who haven't had a foreign cock inside any of their holes yet.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean fucked over by a foreigner:) I have met over 50 DIA in person and I would say 90% have never met with a foreigner.
You can also just click on the profiles that say new, but some of the girls will delete and repost their profile so it will say new. I had one girl that I met on DIA and her profile would say new for six months and I know it was the same profile because she was in my saved and I didn't see a double. I don't know how she accomplished that.
Robb
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Craigslist
Long story, short version:)
Just for shits and giggles I posted on Craigslist under causal for Cebu three months ago. I had maybe 10 hits and I picked a 22 year old student to meet. We met at SM and had coffee and she told me her story. She had a foreigner bf for 8 months and he had paid her school in full and she tutored foreign students to make spending money. I had a prior engagement so the meeting lasted one hour. I gave her taxi money for her time and went to kiss her and she laid a DFK on me;) and that got me thinking with the little head. I haven't decided if I would see her again.
Next day she text me that she wanted to come to my hotel and I told her that I was going to take a nap and she replied that she wanted to take a nap also, in the AC:D
She showed up in a wife beater and tight short shorts:) In less then five minutes in the room we were fucking like it was our last fuck. We took a nap and she had a tutor class at 4 pm and had to go. I gave her 1000P for her taxi, load..i.e. (Pay them to leave)
The next week we are YMing and she is crying on the cam...I am like okay here comes the drama. She told me that she felt like a prostitute because she had sex for money???
I went back to Cebu the next week and took her to lunch with 6 other friends, had a great time and as were leaving she said that she wanted to go to the hotel. I told her sorry, but I would again give her money, as I told her before that I didn't want or need a GF/wife. She said no way, so I said no go. One minute later she said OK....
I left Cebu and 5 days later she text me that all the sudden her school was asking 8000P and she had the money, but she couldn't go home for her baby's birthday. She didn't ask for any help and I didn't offer any, but so much for not being a prostitute:)
Robb
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Really, if a sticky could be put up on this thread, it should read: "ALWAYS SEE THEM ON WEBCAM BEFORE ARRANGING A MEETING" None of the girls that I have met in the last three days from DIA and FH look remotely like their photos.
And now when I tell other girls I would like to please see them for a minute or two on webcam WITH their clothes on to verify their photo, (so as not to waste any more time on Jollibee Chubbies or girls without teeth), they disappear. Interesting.
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Annoying
I find it really annoying when filipinas send me text. This one taken from DIA
[quote]N my lyf,, i never tried 2 impress som1 4 dem 2 lyk me coz wen i do,, i hav 2 keep dat image 4 d res[/quote]
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Do not post on facebook
[QUOTE=Surfer]Facebook can be dangerous in many ways as it creates an evidence trail. Part of what they do on it is play this farming videogame where your friends are neighbors and they build these cyber worlds that aids in escapism. It is almost a cult there.
Unlike friendster, there is no feature listing who viewed your profile so through Mrs Surfers account I can find loads of hotties but, alas, must just look. Some examples of Filipinas on FB[/QUOTE]Do not not under any circumstances put any personally identifiable info on Facebook!
The owners of that website sell your info all over the place & even if you close your account the pics/words are kept and continue to show up in search engine results for fucking years later!!
You will be soooooo sorry!
AV
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First to see wil buy :)
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've been chatting to lots of girls from dia and have found that most of the girls have fucked foreigners before. Have you guys found this to be true also? I tend to like girls who haven't had a foreign cock inside any of their holes yet.[/QUOTE]I much prefer ...ahem.. low mileage girls also.
Lived here 5 years or so, gotta tell you in my experience virtually all Pinays on the internet are players & have been proven to me time & again to be liars. They all have the 'good girl' act going, most however will (and have) prostitute(d) themselves in a heartbeat.
Some of them really push your buttons but nothing sober's you up like looking in her email/txt messages & seeing all the meetings with foreigners pre & post. "I cant wait to meet you", "I miss you so much" etc etc.
Same words, different guy's - and you are one of them....
Besides the point of foreigner's getting at them, just remember most of them have quite a history with the local lad's predating their internet foray's which you will not be privy to until quite some time _after_ you have set up shop with them.
Recently I was shagging a girl from North Luzon, I came to know about & meet her blushing 17 year old 'never been touched, never been kissed' cousin. This girl got a temporary job in one of my business's so I got to see the real truth first hand.
She got on the internet (CB) with the help of an older cousin. Within days of membership , at the grand old age of 17 she gets snapped up by a 59 year old guy from Chicago (Hi Chuck!). Chucky boy can't wait to get his end in, proposes marriage within 48 hours of contacting her & starts sending money for the wedding preparations. Im sitting over dinner talking & laughing about this with my GF. Both she & I can't believe any one would be that stupid.
Any how to cut a long story short Chucky boy hauls ass to the PI within 2 weeks for the wedding, on the wedding night in the hotel there is a big commotion - she's bailed up on giving chucky boy his conjugal rights!!
He apparently tried to press the issue & she rang an ambulance.
Chucky boy is screaming blue murder to me, over & over again.
I get sick of hearing his heart rending story of viagra gone wrong & eventually put a stop to it buy telling him straight - "you're bloody lucky she did'nt ring the cops mate!"
Chucky boy can't compute this so I lay it out in braille - "Mate! She's 17 for christ's sakes!" "She could have you slung in a filthy jail sell for a long time with a a very large payola as your only way out". He had'nt bothered to check that being in a bed with a girl before the age of 18 was a slight problem in this country...
I advised him to claim an immediate annulment based on not receiving his conjugal rights, not to breathe a word about her age & get the fuck back to Chicago ASAP which he did. The family extracted money from him before he left BTW.
But you know the real kicker?
All the while _before_he_arrived_ our blushing, shy little 17 year old was riding pinoy cocks all over town with her new found wealth courtesy of the wedding preparations.
People call me cynical but I tell you these Pinay's are born actress's.
You have to know them (and their friends/relatives) a long time before you can see the real person behind the mask they show you.
When you meet a Pinay from the dating sites for the first time & she is shy/blushing it means squat. They have this act down pat.
AV
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[QUOTE=Chica Finder2]I put a profile on CB, man I have never received so many winks and emails. I assume most of the women are looking for a green card and better life. But being a monger, I,m looking for puss. My fellow mongers care to expand on your Cherry Blossom hookups.[/QUOTE]They are all looking for MONEY & a ticket out in that order.
If you dont want a wife dont fuck about on CB pretending to.
eg, keep your profile on CB simple and to the point - Im nice, well mannered & have money and looking for fun.
Don't be to direct or you will scare many of them off - many have this 'good girl' thing in their heads despite their agenda. Just keep it simple & non threatening/enticing.
There's a little bit of subtllety to respect in these asian cultures (but not too much).
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]I much prefer ...ahem.. low mileage girls also.
Lived here 5 years or so, gotta tell you in my experience virtually all Pinays on the internet are players & have been proven to me time & again to be liars. They all have the 'good girl' act going, most however will (and have) prostitute(d) themselves in a heartbeat.
Some of them really push your buttons but nothing sober's you up like looking in her email/txt messages & seeing all the meetings with foreigners pre & post. "I cant wait to meet you", "I miss you so much" etc etc.
Same words, different guy's - and you are one of them....
Besides the point of foreigner's getting at them, just remember most of them have quite a history with the local lad's predating their internet foray's which you will not be privy to until quite some time _after_ you have set up shop with them.
People call me cynical but I tell you these Pinay's are born actress's.
You have to know them (and their friends/relatives) a long time before you can see the real person behind the mask they show you.
When you meet a Pinay from the dating sites for the first time & she is shy/blushing it means squat. They have this act down pat.
AV[/QUOTE]AV, concur with everything you said. These things of having multiple bf's and drama queens seems to be particular to filipinas. Lots of nice girls out there I'm sure. Trust one? Nahhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Facebook And FarmVille
[QUOTE=Amavida]Do not not under any circumstances put any personally identifiable info on Facebook![/QUOTE]
Yes I have a dummied up account just to check profiles and pics!
Good advise and here are some more reasons:
[url]http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20004511-83.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Surfer]Facebook can be dangerous in many ways as it creates an evidence trail. Part of what they do on it is play this farming videogame where your friends are neighbors and they build these cyber worlds that aids in escapism. It is almost a cult there.[/QUOTE]
Many Filipinas, especiallly the ones from the provinces are addicted to FarmVille. They dream of having their own farm.
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Black American sl*t coming to manila to earn pesos
Hahahaha – get a load of this ad on CL recently. Times must be getting real hard in the good old US of A. Know that the peso is strong at the moment but this is ridiculous:D.
[QUOTE=Black American sl*t]Hi Gentleman, This is the story I am coming to Manila with my master but he is leaving me in Manila for a month to earn my money and have a little vacation. He will be gone to the province to see his wife and I have a big thing for pinoy small dicks but hot bodies. I also amd available for gang bangs and 3 somes so if your pinay wife needs to learn how to please a lady then I am the best teacher. [/QUOTE]
Needledick needed? – now where has X Man got to?;)
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Black American men and women and men are the same. They will fuck anything. The men will fuck anything that moves and the women will fuck anything that has money.
LexLuther
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Hahahaha – get a load of this ad on CL recently. Times must be getting real hard in the good old US of A. Know that the peso is strong at the moment but this is ridiculous:D.
Needledick needed? – now where has X Man got to?;)[/QUOTE]
I saw this ad last week and I was thinking WTF???:)
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Do not not under any circumstances put any personally identifiable info on Facebook!
The owners of that website sell your info all over the place & even if you close your account the pics/words are kept and continue to show up in search engine results for fucking years later!!
You will be soooooo sorry!
AV[/QUOTE]
Last Saturday I called my son in Texas and he tells me that HE got a message from a girl in the Philippines asking me to call :eek: She saw a picture on his facebook of me and him. His name is same as mine, Jr.
I called and it is a Filipina that I dated in Japan five years ago and now she is back in the Philippines and she wants to see me again:D She knew that I was here and someone (neighbor) stole her bag 2 years ago with everything (passport, cash, cell) and she lost my number.
Robb
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[QUOTE=LexLuther]Black American men and women and men are the same. They will fuck anything. The men will fuck anything that moves and the women will fuck anything that has money.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
racism should not be welcomed on the board.
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[QUOTE=Thaifun]racism should not be welcomed on the board.[/QUOTE]I agree,this board has no place for racial stereotyping. Guys lets just stick to sharing information about the ladies.
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[QUOTE=Nolz7]I find it really annoying when filipinas send me text. This one taken from DIA[/QUOTE]Hilarious.
These young pinay can be so lazy with their communication.
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Cricket fan??
[QUOTE=Ej2208]I agree,this board has no place for racial stereotyping. Guys lets just stick to sharing information about the ladies.[/QUOTE]
Agree, but some members nary mention the main topic that is on the mind of most red blooded anglo saxons here. The forums are instead seen as a platform for warped anti-white, gerontophobic, misogynist, anti-CS/FF views with never a word about the pussy he has possibly screwed (maybe this is the problem – not getting enough fanny and is green with envy whilst older, white punters such as Freebie Fan and Wicked Roger (and moi) are obviously enjoying themselves and knee deep in lovely free, brown gash).
But one mention of suspected or implied racism and he is up barking like a rabid Pavlov pooch. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.
Good to see that one black member (pun or insult unintended) has renamed himself (for the umpteenth time) after a good, white Lancashire cricketer of the fifties and sixeties. Excellent taste even if completely unintended. Freebie, as a cricket fan, will be so pleased even though the player in question hailed from the wrong side of the Pennines.
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This thread is about Chat Fun and Pen Pals.
Let's keep to the topic.
This post appeared on my DIA today. I have edited out the less interesting stuff LOL
My Brain is Bigger Than My Tits
Warning!:
My name is "Anne" NOT HONEY, SWEETY, BABY, BABE, MY PRINCESS,, DEAR, LOVE, ETC, ETC ETC....
IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN DONT SEND ME MESSAGE AND DONT PUSH YOUR LUCK.....AND STOP SAYING YOU'RE HOT BABE..........OF COURSE IM HOT ………
I dont wanna meet any person who is a sex tourist..humping from countries to countries just to fuck around ...
If i dont answer your question...it means i find it too stupid to answer
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[QUOTE=Jack Bond]Racism is not tolerated on ISG unless it's directed at blacks and other people of color. For years I couldn't quite figure out why until I had the displeasure of gathering some "inside" information.
This Lex is an educated man, white as I suspect a great deal of ISG members are and he uses that education to post some things like this.
And to think a Black American family is sitting in the White House while other guys on a forum discussing where they score some 500 Peso third world pussy.
Better quit my high profile job and go back to college so I can join the "educated ranks".
PS: Thanks Thai Fun this great post was up here all day and not one word from the upstanding citizens here.
PPS: I don't understand anti-white racism from guys who only have sex with non-Anglo-Saxon (white) women. Would someone please explain this? It's so comical, hypocritical I find it baffling. I hang out with and have fucked women of all colors. If she is hot or has a cool personality makes no difference.[/QUOTE]
You're welcome. We log on at different times due to different time zones. So dont make too much out of seemingly late reactions. It might just be due to such circumstances.
I dont see any reason to take such sick remarks as an occasion to lament about other issues.
The remark by that person was plain racist, wrong, and totally unacceptable (at least to me).
It has not been deleted which is disturbing to me.
That some remarks about women in RP are way below the line, no need to talk about it.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]
But one mention of suspected or implied racism and he is up barking like a rabid Pavlov pooch. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.
Good to see that one black member (pun or insult unintended) has renamed himself (for the umpteenth time) after a good, white Lancashire cricketer of the fifties and sixeties. Excellent taste even if completely unintended. Freebie, as a cricket fan, will be so pleased even though the player in question hailed from the wrong side of the Pennines.[/QUOTE]Well CS as you know, when we cant sort out which county is best we resort to the fact that we are all "Northerners" lol.
I guess being called a "European pisswallower is racist against all Europeans but whats an interesting observation is that we dont take umbrage. We dont need to. Instead we take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].
( PS for the young lads here who dont understand that, it means we make fun instead of getting upset. Nothing to do with any urinary acts lol.)
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[QUOTE=LexLuther]Black American men and women and men are the same. They will fuck anything. The men will fuck anything that moves and the women will fuck anything that has money.
LexLuther[/QUOTE]
WOW..Where did you get that info...Did you move and got fcuked by the blacks? :). Please confirm. We only take personal experience as a credible source of info on ISG.
Did you time travel from the 60's, you have around 200 posts, so you are obviously not new here......i just don't understand why some folks have issues thinking a bit more deeper than a persons skin.
I'm from India, Indians are racist also and i would say Asians are too, but the thing is, they have learned to move on to the next thing, once they know you, they get better and drop the stereotype. The experience in Asia with regards to skin never gets worse only gets better...and im saying this with my personal experience..if you read my old posts.
Its been more than 100 plus years that we keep hearing white vs black thing .....can't you guys just give up and MOVE ON to something new, something different or if you want go with something much worse...don't you guys get bored holding onto same black vs white debate..its sick
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Unfortunately, knee jerk racists will, I'm afraid always be with us. Some people just love to hate. Best to ignore the inane comments rather than to argue with them. The only place I've been in the world where I never ran into racism was sub-Saharan Africa, where I worked in 14 countries and never once experienced it even by innuendo.
GE
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]WOW..Where did you get that info...Did you move and got fcuked by the blacks? :). Please confirm. We only take personal experience as a credible source of info on ISG.
Did you time travel from the 60's, you have around 200 posts, so you are obviously not new here......i just don't understand why some folks have issues thinking a bit more deeper than a persons skin.
I'm from India, Indians are racist also and i would say Asians are too, but the thing is, they have learned to move on to the next thing, once they know you, they get better and drop the stereotype. The experience in Asia with regards to skin never gets worse only gets better...and im saying this with my personal experience..if you read my old posts.
Its been more than 100 plus years that we keep hearing white vs black thing .....can't you guys just give up and MOVE ON to something new, something different or if you want go with something much worse...don't you guys get bored holding onto same black vs white debate..its sick[/QUOTE]
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DateInAsia
I would say that maybe 1% of the girls using DIA are looking for real love and not thinking about money.
Like many others here, I've been using DIA and have had contact with hundreds of girls and not one has shown any real romantic interest (I'm not bad looking). It seems they aren't really interested unless you are already in their country. If you can meet them now, they're interested.come meet me, I'll tour you, you spend money on me.
That being said this is a mongering website, not a "true love" site. Hehe. Just thought I'd offer my 2 cents.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Unfortunately, knee jerk racists will, I'm afraid always be with us. Some people just love to hate. Best to ignore the inane comments rather than to argue with them. The only place I've been in the world where I never ran into racism was sub-Saharan Africa, where I worked in 14 countries and never once experienced it even by innuendo.
GE[/QUOTE]
Very well said GE.....anyways, i will be slowly dropping off from ISG radar for sometime...need to get my battery recharged :) good luck
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I always though innuendo was Italian for sex :)
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5].....can't you guys just give up and MOVE ON to something new, something different or if you want go with something much worse[/QUOTE]
Well you are not helping out the situation by commenting further on the subject. As GE said, "Best to ignore the inane comments rather than to argue with them." No reason to acknowledge ridiculous statements in the first place, WB included!
Have a Zin full day!
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Mistaken
[QUOTE=Groovyguy]I would say that maybe 1% of the girls using DIA are looking for real love and not thinking about money.
Like many others here, I've been using DIA and have had contact with hundreds of girls and not one has shown any real romantic interest (I'm not bad looking). It seems they aren't really interested unless you are already in their country. If you can meet them now, they're interested.come meet me, I'll tour you, you spend money on me.
That being said this is a mongering website, not a "true love" site. Hehe. Just thought I'd offer my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]
if what you mean by "true love" is a long term relationship leading to marriage then you are very much wrong, that is probably what 80%+ of the girls on DIA are looking for as a first priority. The problem from their perspective is that 90% of the guys on DIA have no intention of ever setting foot in the Phils, though they may daydream of doing so. Girls can easily spend 20-50P a day at the net cafe chatting to chatmates from overseas. Girls not working in the sex industry will typically be living on about 200P a day so we are talking a significant part of their daily income. Yet there are many guys more than wiling to string the girls along so that they can masterbate when they get home from work - or if they work for the government , most likely at the office.
If by "true love" you are talking about some sort of conception of romantic love a la 1950s Audrey Hepburn movies, then you just have to get realistic. a 19 year old Phillipina is never going to really have such romantic feelings towards a 55 year old white guy with whom she has almost nothing ion common. She may pretend to do so and many foreign guys i have come across love to believe this pretense and are shocked if a girl is honest with them. Such fantasies are very dangerous for foreign guys - it's how such guys get fleeced. That's not to say that you cant have a meaningful relationship between a 19 year old pinay and a 55 year old white guy, that may well develop into real feelings of mutual affection and care. It's just going to be different from the type of romantic relationship between her and say a 25 year old Pinoy.
if you want to try and build a long term relationship with the girl on line then unless she is unusually wealthy or has other means of support, you may need to offer to subsidise her internet time.
Personally I am very skeptical that you can meaningfully get to know a young Philipina online and think that guys who try to do this before actually coming to the Phils are really fooling themselves/killing lonely hours. I think the best that you can do is find a dozen potential prospects (hopefully in just one or two areas of the country then come out and meet them. Maybe half of them will show up. You will ahve fun with the other half and you will end up falling for a one of their friends or a girl you met in te mall.
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Africa?
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Unfortunately, knee jerk racists will, I'm afraid always be with us. Some people just love to hate. Best to ignore the inane comments rather than to argue with them. The only place I've been in the world where I never ran into racism was sub-Saharan Africa, where I worked in 14 countries and never once experienced it even by innuendo.
GE[/QUOTE]
For once I disagree with GE. I suspect that the reason he did not experience racism in Sub Saharan Africa is that he is (I presume) white. By and large whites are treated as VIPs in sub Saharan Africa - ( at least to their faces) . As a white guy if I thumb a lift in say Zambia i would get picked up almost immediately (generally by black drivers) if i were black i'd have to wait for quite a while for a lift.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]........
The problem from their perspective is that 90% of the guys on DIA have no intention of ever setting foot in the Phils, though they may daydream of doing so. Girls can easily spend 20-50P a day at the net cafe chatting to chatmates from overseas. Girls not working in the sex industry will typically be living on about 200P a day so we are talking a significant part of their daily income. Yet there are many guys more than wiling to string the girls along so that they can masterbate when they get home from work - or if they work for the government , most likely at the office............
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Personally I am very skeptical that you can meaningfully get to know a young Philipina online and think that guys who try to do this before actually coming to the Phils are really fooling themselves/killing lonely hours. I think the best that you can do is find a dozen potential prospects (hopefully in just one or two areas of the country then come out and meet them. Maybe half of them will show up. You will ahve fun with the other half and you will end up falling for a one of their friends or a girl you met in te mall.[/QUOTE]
Exactly right GL.
I live in the Phils and all the "friends" I have on DIA are keen to keep in touch with me because I am actually IN THE PHILS. So many of them talk about bullshitters who are overseas and say they are coming to meet them but never do. These guys get their jollies from talking to some pretty, sexy, young woman on the internet knowing full well that they cannot do the same thing with girls in person either in their own country or probably not anywhere else either. The girls are getting savvy about that too.
I agree too that you MUST meet then in person before you start thinking she is a perfect match.
DIA is an introduction site ONLY. There is a heap of additional work to do after you make the contact.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]For once I disagree with GE. I suspect that the reason he did not experience racism in Sub Saharan Africa is that he is (I presume) white. By and large whites are treated as VIPs in sub Saharan Africa - ( at least to their faces) . As a white guy if I thumb a lift in say Zambia i would get picked up almost immediately (generally by black drivers) if i were black i'd have to wait for quite a while for a lift.[/QUOTE]
I know this is an inappropriate discussion for this forum, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I met lots of African Americans while I was living in Africa, and they got treated the same way that I did.
GE
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African American
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I know this is an inappropriate discussion for this forum, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I met lots of African Americans while I was living in Africa, and they got treated the same way that I did.
GE[/QUOTE]
Yes black Americans will generally be treated as "honorary whites". But I was knocking around with quite a few local Africans and in my mind there is no question that they are treated as second class citizens. Of course that's to a large extent a mater of econo0mics. being white In Africa is a proxy for being rich even if you happen to be relatively poor. To bring the question back towards mongering ask yourself this if a white girl was to sell her body in say Nairobi do you think she would get the same rate as an equivalently good looking black girl? When i was in Nairobi even a relatively fair skinned Ethiopian girl could get a good premium over local black girl, a European girl would gte significant premium for sure
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You're undoubtedly correct, but in such cases, that's a question I think less of racism and more of supply and demand. Men want to try that with which they are unaccustomed; in the case of black Africans, that may mean white women. In the case of white westerners, that could well mean black African women. I doubt, for example, that for experienced white members of this community, a white woman in SE Asia, for example, would bring any premium at all, and the same is probably true for white guys who monger in Africa.
Here in the Philippines, I've not noticed that light skinned Filipinas are particularly more sought after by white guys. To the contrary. It may be that the darker skinned morenas have the advantage because the white guys consider them more "exotic."
At the end of the day, each of us judges the world mostly through the prism of his/her own experience. My comments about the lack of racism I saw in Africa were based on my own experience.
GE
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free fucks from websites
So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?
Thanks in advance
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[QUOTE=Jiggy]So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
Have you been hiding under a log for the past few weeks Jiggy? This thread discusses them to death if you scroll through all the off-topic posts.
There is really only 1 that is worthwhile and FREE: Date In Asia (DIA)
There are many many that require payment: Cherry Blossoms; Adult Friend Finder; Meetic; Tagged etc etc
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misunderstood?
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Have you been hiding under a log for the past few weeks Jiggy? This thread discusses them to death if you scroll through all the off-topic posts.
There is really only 1 that is worthwhile and FREE: Date In Asia (DIA)
There are many many that require payment: Cherry Blossoms; Adult Friend Finder; Meetic; Tagged etc etc[/QUOTE]
Correct me if i'm wrong but I think its the fucks for free that Jiggy is focusing for not the cost of the website? It seems to be a particular obsession of his.
Re the web sites RK is right that DIA and Tagged are the main two free sites relevant to the Phils. there is another worth checking out person.com which some people like but I personally find a bit confusing. In general DIA has the highest percentage of girls wiling to contemplate short term sex. But Tagged is particularly useful in the Provinces.
As for the fucks themselves being for free I think one has to recognize as a fact of life that for attractive sexy young women the potential demand for people interested in fucking them way outstrips the supply. Therefore such women usually decide to fuck a guy a guy for a reason. In some cases this will be sheer lust, but i think one has to be realistic and if one is talking about a girl half your age and you don't look like Robert de Niro this is unlikely to be the main motivation. Some guys come to the Phils and target the DIA and other dating sites telling the girls that they are seriously looking for a wife etc when infact they have lined up 20 girls in a week and have now such realistic intentions, just so they can save a few bucks and massage their egos. i'm not so impressed by these guys myself. If you are tackling the MILF market of 35+ divorces then sure you can get as much free sex as you like in the Phils. if you are going to hang around for a few weeks and take girls out and take care of them you will get "free" sex too. if you are just flying into town and out a few days later and are looking for 18-25 year olds then you should probably assume that if she fucks you she will be wanting/expecting something in return even if she is too shy to bring the subject up. Typically it is cheaper less hassle and more useful for the girl if this is in the form of cash rather than presents/expensive restaurants etc.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Correct me if i'm wrong but I think its the fucks for free that Jiggy is focusing for not the cost of the website? It seems to be a particular obsession of his.
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His request is ambiguous and grammatically challenging. I think it can be read as "which websites are free" and also "which websites give free girls". Whatever.
I agree with your analysis GL. I make it VERY clear in my profile on DIA that I am NOT looking for a wife and also that I just want companion for movies, dinner dates, live music etc. Obviously lots of guys spin bullshit to the girls about looking for wives and being serious etc just to get them into bed. So many women ask me if I am a one-night wonder and quiz me on how many girls I am meeting which tells me that they have been fooled at least once and know what guys are up to. It always results in me hearing some tale about some dishonest prick who promised them the earth but after 2 or 3 hours of fun he just dropped them. The irony is that you DON'T have to tell lies like that in order to find willing and very nice women who appreciate a nice night out and enjoy a happy ending too. Many of them hope that you might become smitten with them and stay but the majority accept your directness and just enjoy the opportunity when it "cums".
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Honesty is the best policy
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]His request is ambiguous and grammatically challenging. I think it can be read as "which websites are free" and also "which websites give free girls". Whatever.
I agree with your analysis GL. I make it VERY clear in my profile on DIA that I am NOT looking for a wife and also that I just want companion for movies, dinner dates, live music etc. Obviously lots of guys spin bullshit to the girls about looking for wives and being serious etc just to get them into bed. So many women ask me if I am a one-night wonder and quiz me on how many girls I am meeting which tells me that they have been fooled at least once and know what guys are up to. It always results in me hearing some tale about some dishonest prick who promised them the earth but after 2 or 3 hours of fun he just dropped them. The irony is that you DON'T have to tell lies like that in order to find willing and very nice women who appreciate a nice night out and enjoy a happy ending too. Many of them hope that you might become smitten with them and stay but the majority accept your directness and just enjoy the opportunity when it "cums".[/QUOTE]
I agree with RK that especially with Pinays honesty is the best policy. I am always amused by the number of guys on this site who spend a considerable amount of their energy covering their tracks whilst cheating on their wives and girl friends. I'm sure much of this stems from having spun some bull shit "about you are the only one for me , I will love you for ever" in the first place. Why make life so complicated?? Explain to her up front that you are a horndog with an insatiable appetite for fresh new pussy and , at least here in the Philippines, you can end up with a girl who is roping in her friends and cousins or hitting on girls in the mall to add to your sexual pleasure.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]If you are just flying into town and out a few days later and are looking for 18-25 year olds then you should probably assume that if she fucks you she will be wanting/expecting something in return even if she is too shy to bring the subject up. Typically it is cheaper less hassle and more useful for the girl if this is in the form of cash rather than presents/expensive restaurants etc.[/QUOTE]Last trip had me a cute little virgin student. We recently talked about meeting up again when I have my next trip. I want to continue educating her in the school of love LOL.
She asked if before we spend the night together can we buy some school books for her sister. I certainly can Miss!
Is this a shy student wanting some help, is this a shy student taking a chance, or is this a shy student whos not really so shy. Probably a combination of all. Well she did give up her cherry so some plastic folders and books really isn't a big deal LOL
They are bought up in Phils to ask and arent too shy about it. Hence the huge numbers of requests for load.
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Here, here!
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I agree with RK that especially with Pinays honesty is the best policy. I am always amused by the number of guys on this site who spend a considerable amount of their energy covering their tracks whilst cheating on their wives and girl friends. I'm sure much of this stems from having spun some bull shit "about you are the only one for me, I will love you for ever" in the first place. Why make life so complicated? Explain to her up front that you are a horndog with an insatiable appetite for fresh new pussy and, at least here in the Philippines, you can end up with a girl who is roping in her friends and cousins or hitting on girls in the mall to add to your sexual pleasure.[/QUOTE]You are so right, GL. I couldn't believe it at first and, with so much American conditioning, couldn't envision being so straightforward with a woman about my libidinous ways.
I have found that many of these girls here actually like that 'bad boy' or 'maldito' as they call it here, attitude. Now, the difference is that they can like it if you are very straightforward and upfront about it. What they hate is to find out that you are that way, after you have spun a tale that's exactly the opposite.
If you're straightforward and upfront about your desires and intentions, you will, amazingly, have the respect of many girls because of your honesty. Some will play, some won't; but you're not spreading lies and making enemies of women who deserve better than that.
MANY of these Filipinas are true gems, with pure hearts and are very giving. Try honesty with them, you'll be surprised at the results.
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Yes one turned down my "you make me happy, I'll make you happy" offer, but then asked if I had any friends who were looking for a real girlfriend. Didn't get insulted or angry, but was an exception to the belief that all DIA girls are looking for money.
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Another track that takes the middle ground is simply to joke, pretend and insinuate that you are the bad boy. If they ask if you have a gf, give them a big smile and reply, "Yes, but I'm hoping for a few more." Filipinos usually love to laugh and joke. Who doesn't?
This works for me partly because I'm a terrible liar. Therefore, joking about the truth works well.
X
[QUOTE=Polyorchid]You are so right, GL. I couldn't believe it at first and, with so much American conditioning, couldn't envision being so straightforward with a woman about my libidinous ways.
I have found that many of these girls here actually like that 'bad boy' or 'maldito' as they call it here, attitude. Now, the difference is that they can like it if you are very straightforward and upfront about it. What they hate is to find out that you are that way, after you have spun a tale that's exactly the opposite.
If you're straightforward and upfront about your desires and intentions, you will, amazingly, have the respect of many girls because of your honesty. Some will play, some won't; but you're not spreading lies and making enemies of women who deserve better than that.
MANY of these Filipinas are true gems, with pure hearts and are very giving. Try honesty with them, you'll be surprised at the results.[/QUOTE]
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Cherry Blossoms the best
Tried dia and Cherry blossoms and CB wins every time. No disappointment from the girls and each one of the 9 i met spread their legs for me on the first or second date..........with no money changing hands just paying for dinner.
Summary. All gave blow jobs, 4 rimmed, 4 took anal, 7 were shaved and they were all happy to become my "girl friend" :D
Treat em like ho's or s l u t s and they just get off on it ;)
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If you had such amazing success on CB, why did you ask : "So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?"
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[QUOTE=X Man]Another track that takes the middle ground is simply to joke, pretend and insinuate that you are the bad boy. If they ask if you have a gf, give them a big smile and reply, "Yes, but I'm hoping for a few more." Filipinos usually love to laugh and joke. Who doesn't?
This works for me partly because I'm a terrible liar. Therefore, joking about the truth works well.
X[/QUOTE]
X your back!! And so is Jack Shit (with his brand new wild doggy handle). Almost feels like old times.
Now where the fuck is Carsucks?
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[QUOTE=X Man]Another track that takes the middle ground is simply to joke, pretend and insinuate that you are the bad boy. If they ask if you have a gf, give them a big smile and reply, "Yes, but I'm hoping for a few more." Filipinos usually love to laugh and joke. Who doesn't?
X[/QUOTE]
I agree X. Filipinas love corny cliches, and the cornier the better.
When they ask "Where is your wife / gf?" I always answer "Which one?"
When my Cebu girl of the day asks whether I have a Cebu gf I always say that I have one in Manila, Davao, Tacloban, Bohol and Iloilo and I am looking for a full set. Takes a while for them to process that one but eventually they are ROFL.
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[QUOTE=Jiggy]Tried dia and Cherry blossoms and CB wins every time. No disappointment from the girls and each one of the 9 i met spread their legs for me on the first or second date..........with no money changing hands just paying for dinner.
Summary. All gave blow jobs, 4 rimmed, 4 took anal, 7 were shaved and they were all happy to become my "girl friend" :D
Treat em like ho's or s l u t s and they just get off on it ;)[/QUOTE]
Wow Jiggy You Are The Man????? Must be great to brag about how much free pussy you managed to score from your "girl friends".:(
You ever heard of Karma?
Robb
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I have found that those who brag, generally have in reality the least to brag about.
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Cherry Blossoms
Further to what Jiggy has said, I have found CB fine.
For me, there are three major advantages that it has.
Firstly, the search engine is far superior. I am looking for a particular shape and size of woman, and it does this for me fine.
Secon, I have loaded my specific preferences, and every day I get a set of matches to my specification. Usually it is about 600.
Third, the profiles can have a number of photos attached, so you get a much better idea of her shape, size etc that from the single facial that you get on DIA.
And, in general, the girls appear. Not 100%, but almost all. I can't think of any that have been starfish. I have had a few virgins, but I knew that before we met, and many have good, well paying, responsible jobs.
So I am more than satisfied.
Having said that, DIA is superior in organising the last minute liaison when plans A and B have failed. And I have had some lovely spur of the moment hook-ups.
Good luck,
Gangles.
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DIA Registration
I am in the USA at the moment and will arrice in Phil next month. I have attempted to register with DIA but I'm having a problem. They ask for a Cell # to send a SMS Text to verify the account.
No prob, but when I choose the USA as my Country and then put in my 10 digit phone # in I never get the SMS Text with Access Code. WTF!
There is not contact assistance on Website so I'm here asking for help.
Any ideas what I'm doing rong?
Thanks for any help!
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I am in the USA at the moment and will arrice in Phil next month. I have attempted to register with DIA but I'm having a problem. They ask for a Cell # to send a SMS Text to verify the account.
No prob, but when I choose the USA as my Country and then put in my 10 digit phone # in I never get the SMS Text with Access Code. WTF!
There is not contact assistance on Website so I'm here asking for help.
Any ideas what I'm doing rong?
Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]TW, try entering a plus sign (+) in front of the country code. If you are entereing 15553337777, try +1555333777. Alternately, if you are already telling them USA with a drop-down box, skip the country code (1) completely:
5553337777
wc
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hmmmm
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Tried dia and Cherry blossoms and CB wins every time. No disappointment from the girls and each one of the 9 i met spread their legs for me on the first or second date..........with no money changing hands just paying for dinner.
Summary. All gave blow jobs, 4 rimmed, 4 took anal, 7 were shaved and they were all happy to become my "girl friend" :D
Treat em like ho's or s l u t s and they just get off on it ;)[/QUOTE]
This sounds to me like someone who has dined in 9 restaurants and had exemplary service from all the waiters and waitresses then sneaked off without leaving a tip - then goes to a dining forum to boast about how all these people were keen to serve him out of the goodness of their hearts.
Of course it does depend on what type of women we are talking about. If these are older women with independent income and property, they are most likely truly doing it for the pleasure.
If we are talking about 18-25 year old unemployed or student girls or girls with a 6000P a month job, then in my experience remuneration is anticipated and/or hoped for unless the impression has been created that they will be your "girl friend" which in the phils typically means someone that you are pretty serious about and are having a 1-1 relationship which will lead somewhere. Of course it is possible to spin all sort of BS and get her to believe this even though you are just about to leave for your third "date" of the evening. Whilst you are at it, why not put her mobile phone into your pocket before you head off ?
The practice amongst semi pro Phil girls is not to talk about payment but to simply assume that a guy will be mature enough to treat her fairly afterwards. The girls who have had more experience have generally had some negative experiences where the guy thinks he is God's gift to women and just does a hit and run. Generally these are younger guys so many girls are particularly cautious with younger western guys even though they may see them as more physically attractive. These girls then start to think they need to clarify remuneration beforehand.
Personally I really like the Philippines way of doing things and would hate it if it goes the way of haggling for what she will do for how much as in say Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=David_33]If you had such amazing success on CB, why did you ask : "So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?"[/QUOTE]
I asked because I thought there might be better ones out there that i wasn't aware of.
Anyway guys try CB - I think its good value myself
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]Wow Jiggy You Are The Man????? Must be great to brag about how much free pussy you managed to score from your "girl friends".:(
You ever heard of Karma?
Robb[/QUOTE]
Whats Karma got to do with that??!!?!?!!?????? Jealous eh?
I said that I pay for dinner................I'm providing this info so if you try properly on CB you might be able to score for just the payment of a dinner.
If you can't deal with that well.....................blow me :D
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[QUOTE=Jiggy]Whats Karma got to do with that??!!?!?!!?????? Jealous eh?
I said that I pay for dinner................I'm providing this info so if you try properly on CB you might be able to score for just the payment of a dinner.
If you can't deal with that well.....................blow me :D[/QUOTE]
Blow you??? What you are a gay????? I live and work here, just PM me where you want to meet. You are a dumbass:(
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Conjugal visits
[QUOTE=GregLondon]
Of course it does depend on what type of women we are talking about. If these are older women with independent income and property, they are most likely truly doing it for the pleasure.
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Actually one of my girls just told me about conjugal visits to the prisons here. Apparently wives and GF's can get a pass to visit their guys for this once a week. She says that there are 3 old (in the Phils means 40 something for women), ugly women in her area who didn't have any nooky so made a habit of visiting the prison every Saturday to find someone to give them a good seeing too. Apparently alot of jokes mimicking the way they walk on the way out of the prison on a Saurday afternoon.
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Cherry Blossoms
Gentlemen,
What is this business all about?
Why are you putting the boot into Jiggy?
The type of woman that I am looking for on CB may be the same as he is.
The women I usually end up with from CB are independent, have decent jobs, never ask for money, nor ever indicate in any way that they need it.
To offer them money is an insult, It indicates that I think that they are p4p, when they are not. I cover their costs, with some to spare. To buy something for their kid, or their family. These women are earning maybe 12k to 30k per month. They support their families and still have money to spare.
Except for those that have told me in advance that they are virgins, or that there will be no sex, all have climbed into bed with me on the first occasion. Often within minutes of us being in my room. They are not *****s, they are regular women who have normal sexual needs and desires, and have been celibate for some time for a variety of reasons. I tell them that I have had a vasectomy, and that I really love to give oral. And they know that they are going to get a very pleasurable and satisfying experience.
I can fully empathise with what Jiggy says, but I would not have put it so crudely. Nor do I keep count like he has. But my experience from CB has been the same as his. But I also put in the effort to get to know them fairly well, I text and email from home, often for months beforehand. Sometimes I chat, but as little as possible because it is very inefficient. Sometimes they will bring a cousin, or a friend, or their mother as a chaperone. I accept that, treat them as equals, with respect. Soon enough the chaperone leaves, satisfied that I am OK, and the lady is reassured. She feels comfortable and safe, and hence she is prepared to let her guard down. His statistics re the lady giving head is pretty normal, all swallow. I am not into anal, so I don't know about that.
Having said that, I also meet up with other women referred to me by ISGers, friends, sometimes I pull a girl from a bar, but not often.
Calm down. Maybe Jiggy is bragging, maybe not. But there is no reason to doubt what he ha said, and let us assume that he is not a kuripot.
Gangles
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]Blow you??? What you are a gay????? I live and work here, just PM me where you want to meet. You are a dumbass:([/QUOTE]
Sorry i love the CB ladies too much !!
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[QUOTE=Gangles]Gentlemen,
What is this business all about?
Why are you putting the boot into Jiggy?
The type of woman that I am looking for on CB may be the same as he is.
The women I usually end up with from CB are independent, have decent jobs, never ask for money, nor ever indicate in any way that they need it.
To offer them money is an insult, It indicates that I think that they are p4p, when they are not. I cover their costs, with some to spare. To buy something for their kid, or their family. These women are earning maybe 12k to 30k per month. They support their families and still have money to spare.
Except for those that have told me in advance that they are virgins, or that there will be no sex, all have climbed into bed with me on the first occasion. Often within minutes of us being in my room. They are not *****s, they are regular women who have normal sexual needs and desires, and have been celibate for some time for a variety of reasons. I tell them that I have had a vasectomy, and that I really love to give oral. And they know that they are going to get a very pleasurable and satisfying experience.
I can fully empathise with what Jiggy says, but I would not have put it so crudely. Nor do I keep count like he has. But my experience from CB has been the same as his. But I also put in the effort to get to know them fairly well, I text and email from home, often for months beforehand. Sometimes I chat, but as little as possible because it is very inefficient. Sometimes they will bring a cousin, or a friend, or their mother as a chaperone. I accept that, treat them as equals, with respect. Soon enough the chaperone leaves, satisfied that I am OK, and the lady is reassured. She feels comfortable and safe, and hence she is prepared to let her guard down. His statistics re the lady giving head is pretty normal, all swallow. I am not into anal, so I don't know about that.
Having said that, I also meet up with other women referred to me by ISGers, friends, sometimes I pull a girl from a bar, but not often.
Calm down. Maybe Jiggy is bragging, maybe not. But there is no reason to doubt what he ha said, and let us assume that he is not a kuripot.
Gangles[/QUOTE]
Hi Gangles
Thanks. Yes i may have been a bit crude onmy assessment but I do stand by my comments that there are lots of ladies to be had on CB for fun and more.
If you are paying them truckloads of money for sex then i suspect you are doing something wrong
CB rules!
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I have an idea...
When you guys get done Making-Out can you give me any assistance with this question? Thanks
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I am in the USA at the moment and will arrice in Phil next month. I have attempted to register with DIA but I'm having a problem. They ask for a Cell # to send a SMS Text to verify the account.
No prob, but when I choose the USA as my Country and then put in my 10 digit phone # in I never get the SMS Text with Access Code. WTF!
There is not contact assistance on Website so I'm here asking for help.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks for any help![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jiggy]If you are paying them truckloads of money for sex then i suspect you are doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]Everyone is entitled to express his opinion (above). You realize its a board full of punters discussing it. Also, the $50 the gents here often pay the gals to spend the night (or get out) isn't a truckload. Its less than the cost of a dinner/movie out in the western world.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Everyone is entitled to express his opinion (above). You realize its a board full of punters discussing it. Also, the $50 the gents here often pay the gals to spend the night (or get out) isn't a truckload. Its less than the cost of a dinner/movie out in the western world.[/QUOTE]
Well i wouldn't spend anyhting near $50 to score with these ladies.
A dinner or coffee and thats it ;)
Why u would want to pay $50 when there is so much freebie pussy in the Phils defies logic..............unless you are really hard up
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Just not getting it
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Well i wouldn't spend anyhting near $50 to score with these ladies.
A dinner or coffee and thats it ;)
Why u would want to pay $50 when there is so much freebie pussy in the Phils defies logic..............unless you are really hard up[/QUOTE]Many don't want to bother with the 'score', or with relationship crap, or 'chatting her up'. As has been said many times here, the money is for her to leave. I think there's some confusion on your part with that 'hard up' thing. Your desire to not spend 50 clams is respectable. Other's desires to part with it also is.
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Robb is right. And YOU do know what I mean.
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Well i wouldn't spend anyhting near $50 to score with these ladies.
A dinner or coffee and thats it ;)
Why u would want to pay $50 when there is so much freebie pussy in the Phils defies logic..............unless you are really hard up[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]
If we are talking about 18-25 year old unemployed or student girls or girls with a 6000P a month job, then in my experience remuneration is anticipated and/or hoped for unless the impression has been created that they will be your "girl friend" which in the phils typically means someone that you are pretty serious about and are having a 1-1 relationship which will lead somewhere. Of course it is possible to spin all sort of BS and get her to believe this even though you are just about to leave for your third "date" of the evening. Whilst you are at it, why not put her mobile phone into your pocket before you head off ?
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If a girl doesn't ask for money why does one have to pay? Alot of these girls enjoy having sex anyways. Why does the guy always have to part with his cash?
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Many don't want to bother with the 'score', or with relationship crap, or 'chatting her up'. As has been said many times here, the money is for her to leave. I think there's some confusion on your part with that 'hard up' thing. Your desire to not spend 50 clams is respectable. Other's desires to part with it also is.[/QUOTE]
WC1 you are correct. My point is not to say that there is no free pussy, but if you are misleading the girls to get the free pussy, then I have a problem.
I don't think 500P or 1000P (for taxi's and load) is a truckload of money. If you do think that maybe you can't afford to be here mongering.
Do you ever wonder why a lot of profiles on DIA/CB state that if you are only looking to play games or have a vacation fuck to not reply to my ad? If you ask anyone girl who posts this in her profile she will most likely state because she met someone who she thought was the one, but he was here to play games.
Robb
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]If a girl doesn't ask for money why does one have to pay? Alot of these girls enjoy having sex anyways. Why does the guy always have to part with his cash?[/QUOTE]
The girls sometimes will not ask for money because money equates prostituition. But they will be happy if you give some. These girls who readily meet foreigners are poor hoping that someone will take them and their family out of their poverty.
To use them with false promises s not a good idea. Be upfront with your intentions and I would say 50% agree to have sex with you. Always show appreciation by giving money saying it is just a gift for her to buy things she needs.
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Hear, hear
[QUOTE=Sammon]....But they will be happy if you give some. These girls who readily meet foreigners are poor hoping that someone will take them and their family out of their poverty.
Always show appreciation by giving money saying it is just a gift for her to buy things she needs.[/QUOTE]Right on, Sammon.
Guys, how much easier, how much more readily available can it get than here, with many of these beautiful, willing girls? Let's show our appreciation in the currency ALL of these girls need and appreciate, CASH.
I recently offered a Filipina friend to pay 500 pesos per month for her to get a small room near her university. Her genuine appreciation and gratitude equaled that I would have seen giving $1000 to a first world girl.
Remember, these girls are, by and large, desperately poor. For all the kindness and love they show us, let's not shortchange them. Our small 'gifts' mean so much to them.
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No problem......provided
[QUOTE=Amjeck]If a girl doesn't ask for money why does one have to pay? Alot of these girls enjoy having sex anyways. Why does the guy always have to part with his cash?[/QUOTE]
I've no problem with this provided you are honest and upfront about it. That way the girl can decide whether she is so horny that she wants to fuck you for free or not. Maybe add something to your DIA / CB profile along the lines of: I'm looking to have a night of uninhibited sexual passion and then never contact you again. Please don't expect to gain more than a free cup of coffee out of it. But you may feature in my statistical analysis of how many girls I was able to fuck in the ass to be posted on The International Sex Guide. Then let's see how many positive responses you get.
I've seem a lot of guys profiles on these sites and never once seen one as honest and upfront as that. Instead what you see is meally mouthed words about looking for someone special, I'm a simple guy blah blah.
If what you are doing is simply misleading the girl or relying on the fact that most foreign guys will treat them fairly so there is an unwritten expectation of that, then frankly I am not impressed. The inevitable result will, especially if The Phils gets flooded with guys who formerly went to Thailand, be that the whole thing becomes more commercial and negotiated just as it has become in Thailand.
Now Gangles has described how he is targeting more mature women earning 12-30k a month (my guess would be less than 10% of the girls on DIA are earning this much if we exclude the Pros and Scammers), romancing them and being pretty upfront about it. Again I don't have a problem with this both sides are having a fine time.
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in defense of amjek
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I've no problem with this provided you are honest and upfront about it. That way the girl can decide whether she is so horny that she wants to fuck you for free or not. Maybe add something to your DIA / CB profile along the lines of: I'm looking to have a night of uninhibited sexual passion and then never contact you again. Please don't expect to gain more than a free cup of coffee out of it. But you may feature in my statistical analysis of how many girls I was able to fuck in the ass to be posted on The International Sex Guide. Then let's see how many positive responses you get.[/QUOTE]I recently made a profile on CB that is similar to the one posted above, but with softer wording. It says that I'm not interested in marriage, only interested in touring, only interested in fun and possible travel for a few days, I'm nice, white, and also clean. Bam, 9 responses in the first hour, several more when I got up this morning. I've had girls hang on me for days after meeting in my hotel; some pro's and some just nice gals I've met in chat for a drink or two. Other times its preferable to pay for a 'massage'. Either way, as long as both parties are up front, its all good.
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More Fuel For The Fire
Wow,
I would never have thought that this topic would take off the way that it has.
But reading the posts has highlighted the fact that has not been discussed, and that is, our/your motivation in meeting filipinas.
And that is the key to the whole discussion.
And remember that we are talking about filipinas met via internet dating sites.
Some guys just want to root as many women as possible. OK. As long as they are upfront about it, then OK, and these would probably have the attitude that the filipina should be paid. I guess the statement “pay her to get her to leave” exemplifies this attitude.
Others may be looking for a companion for the medium term, maybe a couple of weeks, while they visit the Phils and travel around a bit. Probably buy her clothes, jewelry, maybe a watch, phone. Should she be paid money as well?
Others, like me, are looking for the special one. I meet and interview a number of women, but my intention is genuine. And in these cases, money is not an issue.
I also set up a number of other meetings, where the mutual intent is heat and play, and I pay them after, always in the form of money for the kids education, or for mama’s medicine etc. because the women have feelings and standards as well.
And there are some who are backups, in the event of an empty bed, and they are paid.
My trips end up as a kind of compromise/conflict of interest. On the one hand, I am looking for miss right, but I also want to have company every night. Sometimes, miss Right does not show, or has mis-represented herself and I make it clear that this will not work. She leaves, and I have an empty bed.
But it cuts both ways.
I thought Miss J1 was just right, tall, thin, intelligent, a warehouse manager. We really hit it off, traveled round, different countries. Then 2 weeks after I had returned home, she sends an email that she has taken a contract in an Arab country, just to prove to herself that she can do it. Still, we keep in touch, met up for her first month vacation, I bought her father a fishing boat to get the family out of the subsistence farming cycle.
I thought Miss M1 was pretty close to what I wanted. We had a lot of time together, including several overseas trips, I put her through two years of school to finish her high school diploma, and I built her a house. After a while, her communications became pretty erratic, and I became suspicious. I found that she had hitched with a local pinoy, sort of de facto husband, had borne a child, and had forgotten to mention it to me. I have cut her out of my will.
I thought Miss M2 was perfect. Wow. Then, a couple of months after I had returned home, she sends an email to say that she had met up with a Korean, she was pregnant, he had left, would I send her more money to pay for her baby.
There are others, of course.
I am putting one through college, one year to go. I am about to pay for Miss A to take a concentrated computer course so she can get a job.
I supported Miss R for 2 years to put her mildly dyslexic daughter through a private school to get her education started. The Miss R started to become a bit erratic in her communications, turns out she had met an Italian, married him, and is now in Italy. And she had 2 other kids that she had forgotten to mention. She was cut out of the will.
Etc, etc..
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Cash vs Pressies
[QUOTE=Gangles]Wow,
I would never have thought that this topic would take off the way that it has.
But reading the posts has highlighted the fact that has not been discussed, and that is, our/your motivation in meeting filipinas.
And that is the key to the whole discussion.
And remember that we are talking about filipinas met via internet dating sites.
Some guys just want to root as many women as possible. OK. As long as they are upfront about it, then OK, and these would probably have the attitude that the filipina should be paid. I guess the statement “pay her to get her to leave” exemplifies this attitude.
Others may be looking for a companion for the medium term, maybe a couple of weeks, while they visit the Phils and travel around a bit. Probably buy her clothes, jewelry, maybe a watch, phone. Should she be paid money as well?
Others, like me, are looking for the special one. I meet and interview a number of women, but my intention is genuine. And in these cases, money is not an issue.
I also set up a number of other meetings, where the mutual intent is heat and play, and I pay them after, always in the form of money for the kids education, or for mama’s medicine etc. because the women have feelings and standards as well.
And there are some who are backups, in the event of an empty bed, and they are paid.
My trips end up as a kind of compromise/conflict of interest. On the one hand, I am looking for miss right, but I also want to have company every night. Sometimes, miss Right does not show, or has mis-represented herself and I make it clear that this will not work. She leaves, and I have an empty bed.
But it cuts both ways.
I thought Miss J1 was just right, tall, thin, intelligent, a warehouse manager. We really hit it off, traveled round, different countries. Then 2 weeks after I had returned home, she sends an email that she has taken a contract in an Arab country, just to prove to herself that she can do it. Still, we keep in touch, met up for her first month vacation, I bought her father a fishing boat to get the family out of the subsistence farming cycle.
I thought Miss M1 was pretty close to what I wanted. We had a lot of time together, including several overseas trips, I put her through two years of school to finish her high school diploma, and I built her a house. After a while, her communications became pretty erratic, and I became suspicious. I found that she had hitched with a local pinoy, sort of de facto husband, had borne a child, and had forgotten to mention it to me. I have cut her out of my will.
I thought Miss M2 was perfect. Wow. Then, a couple of months after I had returned home, she sends an email to say that she had met up with a Korean, she was pregnant, he had left, would I send her more money to pay for her baby.
There are others, of course.
I am putting one through college, one year to go. I am about to pay for Miss A to take a concentrated computer course so she can get a job.
I supported Miss R for 2 years to put her mildly dyslexic daughter through a private school to get her education started. The Miss R started to become a bit erratic in her communications, turns out she had met an Italian, married him, and is now in Italy. And she had 2 other kids that she had forgotten to mention. She was cut out of the will.
Etc, etc..[/QUOTE]
IMHO Gangles has been acting more than fairly. I agree that the key to this is to act honestly. He is also perfectly right to point out that many Filipinas, even ones that one comes to trust have a serious problem with the telling the truth, the whole truth etc. Personally I think this is more excusable than some of the ruses that guys use, after all you are probably more than twice her age, and can afford to fly to the Phils rather than struggle to find the bus fare to town. What is extremely disappointing is the pretty egregious deceptions after very generous and thoughtful behaviour along the lines that Gangles has outlined.
As far as pressies for medium term flings are concerned. I think in Asia far more than in the West "cash is king". I am happy to buy minor gifts along the way - a 300P bikini can transform the way many of these girls look on the beach or pool, but then generally come up with an appropriate amount of cash as a parting gift. One can easily finesse any potential embarrassment, in terms of "I wanted to buy you X but it's much better that you choose one that you really want etc" .
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Honesty is the key
[QUOTE=Westcoast1]I recently made a profile on CB that is similar to the one posted above, but with softer wording. It says that I'm not interested in marriage, only interested in touring, only interested in fun and possible travel for a few days, I'm nice, white, and also clean. Bam, 9 responses in the first hour, several more when I got up this morning. I've had girls hang on me for days after meeting in my hotel; some pro's and some just nice gals I've met in chat for a drink or two. Other times its preferable to pay for a 'massage'. Either way, as long as both parties are up front, its all good.[/QUOTE]
I agree that honesty is the crucial element in this. If one looks at this from the girl's perspective then what she is asking is (1) what kind of guy is this and what does he expect of me/want me to do? and (2) what's in it for me?
The kind of profile you outline above (which is similar in flavour to my own) is honest and upfront about what you are looking for ie (1) but vague about (2) The reason that it is vague is that IMHO there is a general presumption that if a foreign guy is taking a poor, much younger girl for his short term fun then he is probably going to give her 500/1000P if she satisfies his needs, if that's not your intention, then I believe that the honest and upfront thing to do would be to make sure she is clear about that upfront too.
The policies of the web sites prohibit asking for money so this can't be done directly and is anyhow too embarrassing /against the culture of many less hardened Filipinos. Now if the answer to (2) is a trip to the islands and all your meals and expenses paid , then fine and dandy. I'm in Puerto Princesa now and am amazed how many girls who have lived here all their lives have never been island hoping in the beautiful Honda Bay just 25 kms away let alone the world class Bacuit Archipelago around El Nido, they simply don't have the budget.
However there are guys out there, and I'm not suggesting that you are one of them, for whom it is a matter of pride and machismo that they "never pay for pussy" or at least that they still have what it takes to attract and seduce a stream of nymphettes without financial incentives. This is very much the impression given by Jiggy's post which triggered this discussion and is reinforced if one takes a look at his previous posts to the forum the majority of which focus on a ceaseless quest for "free pussy".
As someone put it much more succinctly then me, there is an unlimited supply of "free pussy" here if you feel OK about stiffing pennyless young girls, and justifying it to yourself on the grounds that you are some sort of maestro in bed - personally I don't.
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And speaking of honesty...
I have a profile on DIA which is 'diplomatically honest', i.e. I say that I am not seeking a serious GF at this time, but rather some 'romance, physical passion and intimate friendship. However, I am open to meeting the gal of my dreams here who will sweep me off my feet'.
So, a few days ago I make contact with a DIA gal who looks quite pretty and has the usual fairly generic profile listing a high school education and nothing filled in for occupation. She also looks quite pretty in her photo.
After a few exchanged messages, I ask if she would like to meet sometime soon for a coffee. She immediately replies with 'I'm free tonight' (last night). I wasn't free, so I suggest tonight, to which she immediately replies, 'OK' and includes her CP number. She seems eager!
So, around noon today, I text her to confirm if she still wants to meet up this eve. She replies, 'Yes', so I arrange for her to meet me at 7:30 at Greenbelt. All is well.
Then around 5pm I get a text from her, 'Can I ask you something?' I reply back, 'sure', thinking that it is either going to be that she wants to bring a friend/cousin/aunt/sister/gay friend with her when she meets me, or she wants to make sure I will pay her taxi fare (which I always do when I meet a gal in the center of town).
So I am quite surprised when I read 'u know I have only 200 peso in my pocket to go there... i dont want to waste money, am just want to tel u i am selling my body to u. this is my first time i am doing this, first time to go to greenbelt. i need money this time, i want to going back in dubai where place i have work. i dont have work here... hope u understand'
Hmmmm, well at least she is being honest (except perhaps for the part about the first time she is doing this!). Not sure how to respond to that, so I tell her I understand her situation and I ask her how much she expects to get from me. I also ask her to send me a few recent pics to my email because I have been disappointed a few times in meeting DIA gals who do not look like their profile photo. I also say that I am only interested in her offer if she is very slim and attractive. Yep, i figure at this point, honesty is the best policy!
So she replies that she will send a few pics in a few minutes, and that she wants... wait for it... $100.
I giggle as I read that, and then wait for the pics. The pics arrive in my yahoo a few minutes later and indeed she is cute, but nowhere near $100 cute. I text her back and tell her she is being unrealistic coz $100 is what professional escorts get and any guy can go into LA Cafe and walk out with a lovely gal for 2000 pesos for the whole night.
She then gets back to me to say '4 u 3000 pesos ok... how much can u give me?'
I go back and look at her pics and decide that though she does look rather sweet, the moment of interest for me is passing and I really don't want to haggle with her about money. So I text her back with apologies that I'm afraid I must cancel the date and I hope she can find another guy to help her get back to Dubai.
So now I am scrolling through my CP phone book to find a replacement date for this eve!
Manta Ray
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I've no problem with this provided you are honest and upfront about it. [/QUOTE]
I do much better when I meet random girls in public compared to internet sites. What I usually do is straight up ask them if they expect money from me or not. And I tell them I don't pay for sex, which is a lie (I do this to qualify the girl). The majority say they don't want money. The ones that say they want money I give them cash. The others get a free meal and a few pesos for jeepney/taxi back home.
I'm not in the charity business. Most of these girls are getting fucked by phil guys who give them no cash. Why is it that the foreigner always gets stuck with the bill?
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[QUOTE=GregLondon] there is an unlimited supply of "free pussy" here if you feel OK about stiffing pennyless young girls, and justifying it to yourself on the grounds that you are some sort of maestro in bed - personally I don't.[/QUOTE]
I agree it's old to hear some guys talk about "yah, i got laid for free etc..". The unfortunate thing, however is that money doesn't grow on trees. As a monger, if I don't have to pay or if I can get a discount of the price, I'm happy. For me it has nothing to do with pride or machoism. It has to do with money. With exchange rates getting worse and the economy in shambles, if I have the opportunity not to pay a girl for sex, I'll take it.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]The kind of profile you outline above (which is similar in flavour to my own) is honest and upfront about what you are looking for ie (1) but vague about (2) The reason that it is vague is that IMHO there is a general presumption that if a foreign guy is taking a poor, much younger girl for his short term fun then he is probably going to give her 500/1000P if she satisfies his needs, if that's not your intention, then I believe that the honest and upfront thing to do would be to make sure she is clear about that upfront too.[/QUOTE]All of which can be discussed in chat, not necessarily in the profile. I'm fairly sure that when u tell her (profile and/or chat): 1. Your not interested in marriage; 2. You're only in town a few days; 3. You are touring the country and want her to be your guide while you are in town; 4. You will pick up all of her traveling expenses if you decide to take her anywhere; that you have covered the bases.
That's pretty clear. Amazingly, there seem to be oodles of asian girls willing to do this. If she's been a good gfe for me, I'm not above slipping a few pesos in her purse when I'm putting her on a bus or she's dropping me at the airport.
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pulling the plug .... timing is everything
[QUOTE=Manta Ray]
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I go back and look at her pics and decide that though she does look rather sweet, the moment of interest for me is passing and I really don't want to haggle with her about money. So I text her back with apologies that I'm afraid I must cancel the date and I hope she can find another guy to help her get back to Dubai..............[/QUOTE]
Hi Manta. Good to see you back here.
I agree that getting caught up in the haggle over price is a "passion-killer" for me too.
I had a terrible experience recently that annoyed me intensely. I have been meeting a girl quite regularly for fun only and have been paying her a fixed price and she knows that is fixed. She usually texts me asking to meet so I know when she is hard-up for cash.
She arrived as usual and after the usual chit chat and the preliminaries we got down to business. It was full-on no holds barred foreplay and the anaconda was desperately seeking a nice moist dark hole to crawl into. I reached for the muzzle to slip over his head and got a "Honey, can you please give me extra money today because of .x...y...z ...."
Now I was NOT interested in discussing this topic right at this CRITICAL point, and I said "later later". She kept on about how she needed extra and it was too much for me. I rolled off, condom still in the wrapper, and told her to get dressed and go and not to call me any more.
She was shocked, dismayed, started to cry etc etc and genuinely could not understand why I was so annoyed/frustrated/pissed off.
It was a clear, stark reminder to me that no matter how much a working girl seems to like the sex and how much she seems to be "into it" they really are usually only acting in order to earn cash and for her to mention extra money right at the "height of passion" showed me that she was just acting out a performance.
So Manta ..... I have had several experiences very similar to yours that ended up in me pulling the plug (so to speak) but at different stages of the process. You got in early so you never had the annoying finale that I endured.
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Pull the plug
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Hi Manta. Good to see you back here.
I agree that getting caught up in the haggle over price is a "passion-killer" for me too.
I had a terrible experience recently that annoyed me intensely. I have been meeting a girl quite regularly for fun only and have been paying her a fixed price and she knows that is fixed. She usually texts me asking to meet so I know when she is hard-up for cash.
She arrived as usual and after the usual chit chat and the preliminaries we got down to business. It was full-on no holds barred foreplay and the anaconda was desperately seeking a nice moist dark hole to crawl into. I reached for the muzzle to slip over his head and got a "Honey, can you please give me extra money today because of. X. Y. Z. "
Now I was NOT interested in discussing this topic right at this CRITICAL point, and I said "later later". She kept on about how she needed extra and it was too much for me. I rolled off, condom still in the wrapper, and told her to get dressed and go and not to call me any more.
She was shocked, dismayed, started to cry etc etc and genuinely could not understand why I was so annoyed/frustrated/pissed off.
It was a clear, stark reminder to me that no matter how much a working girl seems to like the sex and how much she seems to be "into it" they really are usually only acting in order to earn cash and for her to mention extra money right at the "height of passion" showed me that she was just acting out a performance.
So Manta. I have had several experiences very similar to yours that ended up in me pulling the plug (so to speak) but at different stages of the process. You got in early so you never had the annoying finale that I endured.[/QUOTE]A buddy tells me of his former american gf who did something similar. She came over for a dinner-in date, their first naughty encounter. As the passion built up and at the moment of naughty impact, she stopped him with "Can I ask you something? Can you loan me $800? " Hahaha he said he was stymied and didn't know what to do, he could not think at all from all the kissing she was tagging him with. He said, "talk later" and started to proceed. She rolled him off and stood up and started to dress, asking him again for the loan, something she needed to get for her mom. He was shell-shocked. A complete act on her part. She was out the door in 1 minute when he told her "let me thing about it. " He called her the next day to ask why she pulled that crap and she never returned his calls. No money, no honey!
Them whoe's is everywhere!
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]She arrived as usual and after the usual chit chat and the preliminaries we got down to business. It was full-on no holds barred foreplay and the anaconda was desperately seeking a nice moist dark hole to crawl into. I reached for the muzzle to slip over his head and got a "Honey, can you please give me extra money today because of. X. Y. Z. "
Now I was NOT interested in discussing this topic right at this CRITICAL point, and I said "later later". She kept on about how she needed extra and it was too much for me. I rolled off, condom still in the wrapper, and told her to get dressed and go and not to call me any more.
She was shocked, dismayed, started to cry etc etc and genuinely could not understand why I was so annoyed/frustrated/pissed off.
It was a clear, stark reminder to me that no matter how much a working girl seems to like the sex and how much she seems to be "into it" they really are usually only acting in order to earn cash and for her to mention extra money right at the "height of passion" showed me that she was just acting out a performance.[/QUOTE]So women just think of the ONE thing. I am shocked.
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So Manta ..... I have had several experiences very similar to yours that ended up in me pulling the plug (so to speak) but at different stages of the process. You got in early so you never had the annoying finale that I endured.[/QUOTE]
Greetings RK, good to hear from you... Though I'm sure we both wish it would have been to compare notes on more, er, pleasant experiences. Indeed, it is a rather gruesome reality check when a gal one considers as more than simply a provider ends up showing herself to be, well, merely a simple provider. Oh well, it's all grist for the humility quotient! I hope you were at least able to salvage the hat and put it to good use with a more deserving babae!
MR
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[QUOTE=Polyorchid]Right on, Sammon.
Guys, how much easier, how much more readily available can it get than here, with many of these beautiful, willing girls? Let's show our appreciation in the currency ALL of these girls need and appreciate, CASH.
I recently offered a Filipina friend to pay 500 pesos per month for her to get a small room near her university. Her genuine appreciation and gratitude equaled that I would have seen giving $1000 to a first world girl.
Remember, these girls are, by and large, desperately poor. For all the kindness and love they show us, let's not shortchange them. Our small 'gifts' mean so much to them.[/QUOTE]
/agree completely.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Them whoe's is everywhere![/QUOTE]
However painful, it's useful for us to be reminded every now and again that there are some universals in life that transcend culture and geography!
MR
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11 days/nights with DiA and Tagged friends in Manila
Back in Manila for the main purpose… pussy, but also for business.
I am sorry for not sharing pictures, since the girls are mainly amateurs and I want to protect their identity from some of the scoundrels here.
I post this in “Chat Rooms & Pen Pals”, since all ladies are from DiA and Tagged, and may be of interest for those using DiA and Tagged as tools for meeting females in the Phils. As you will see, its not hard at all.
Day 1.
Ms E1, 26yo from DiA that I met one year ago, but did not fuck on first date back then. This time she was out of her clothes before she was fully inside the room.
Last time she gave me a HJ and I fingerfucked her. Now she played excellent and I really enjoyed meeting her again.
She gave me a soso blowjob, not being exposed much to it, hence not to completion. She said she had prepared for this meeting so it was ok if I cum inside her.
Claimed she had met only two guys in DiA. I was the first, one year ago, then an American two months later. As most girls say, the guys online never visit Manila, they just want to see them online.
She has tried to be a part time cam-girl, using her aunts’ pc, but never made any money out of it. She stayed 6 hours and made it a good start on the trip (She txted me every morning after, saying “Good Morning Dear. I like to meet you again).
Day 2:
My regular masseuse Ms. M (met via manilatonight.com several years ago) gave me a wet Thai massage and then a great fuck.
She started on the regular massage but became busy with some domestic problem so I told her that we could continue at a later date.
The wet-massage is not the best I have experienced but still fun as I don’t experience it many places (She txted me several times during the week asking to finalize the massage, but I did not find time for it).
Went out with some friends and had dinner at Mall of Asia. A lot of new restaurants have opened up on the seaside part of the mall. Nice place. Afterwards I stopped by some small clubs for music and a beer near Remedios Circle and then home to the hotel alone to adjust the jetleg.
Day 3:
Ms L, 23yo from Bulacan. Met in DiA. I had originally hoped to meet her yesterday, but she was out hiking with the church-group and staying out overnight.
When coming home, she just showered and was on the bus to Manila to meet me. She told me that she tried to txt me when on camping, she even climbed a tree to get a signal.
It took a couple of hours to make her feel really comfortable. She has a lot of foreign friends online but I never found out how many she has met up with here in Manila and slept with. Did not push for it. She showed me photos of her male friends that have sent her everything from a laptop to food from the US without even coming to the Phils. Another guy sent her money for her to visit family in the province. What she asked from me was a perfume, which we bought in Harrison the morning after (php 2000) in addition to me paying her transport to/from Manila which was 160x2 for the bus.
When we met she thought she would just meet me for coffe and some snacks and acted like she owned the world, a little cocky, and opened with a statement that she would be safe with me since she got her menstruation on Thursday.
Well, well,,, what do you know... After getting comfortable I was at it on a freshly shaved pussy that loved being played with. A great time.
She used my laptop for uploading pics from the hiking. Monday morning we had another round before I checked out and changed hotel.
She wanted to stay with me the whole week, but I said that I will call her if I have free time to meet again. And I did.
Day 4.
Work. Was out having dinner at Seaside, near Mall of Asia with colleagues. Tired, so went home alone.
Day 5.
Ms. G 31yo from DiA. Chatted her up in the evening after having chatted with her earlier a few weeks earlier. Therefore she arrived late, almost midnight coming from Dasmarinas. But she wanted it so much, so she had no problem in leaving the kids at home with her mother to get some manoj and chocolate. We had breakfast Wednesday morning and I sent her off at 0930 with 1K and chocolate for her kids.
Day 6.
Slept a couple of hours and checked DiA again.
Ms. Ella 23yo was online and sent me a message asked if we could meet. I told her i would be in Harrison Plaza in 30 minutes and that we could meet and have coffee. She was on time!
Had coffee and went to my hotel. Just a short fuck, and sent her off with 1k since she did not play up to her picture in the profile. Colored short red hair, a typical FL.
20 minutes after she left she txted me saying someone stole her bag and she needed money for transport back home. I remembered that she put her phone in the bag, so I did not reply since she used the same number that I had saved in my phone (She contacted me via DiA again two days later wanting to be with me again. I just told her I was busy).
Day 7.
Ms Maria (45yo) arrived actually on day 8 at 0130. She chatted me up in DiA. I have already posted about the miserable meeting earlier.
Day 8.
Ms E2 20yo from Tagged arrive at 1600hrs. I have been chatting with her for a few months already, and she is such a cute young lady, not innocent as she has had a Swedish bf before and new a few Scandinavian words. We had a lot of fun with that and she was up for a meet. One thing about her Tagged profile was that she said: “I have changed, I am a much better girl now than before”. I loved that phrase, since I knew she was a sure thing. Met up at Starbucks in Robinsons Place in Ermita. Seem to be a place many ladies know already. You guys as well, I am sure. I saw what I would describe as a lot of Personal Service Providers hanging there, and one also approached me while I was waiting.
We had coffee there and chatted for a while and then returned to my hotel in a taxi. We took a look at the pool area in case she wanted a nightswim, but soon returned to the room and had a couple of glasses or redwine.
After a two glasses of wine, she said that my redwine was not making her drunk, so I did not hesitate to suggest that we should change to having shots with whiskey (12 yo Famous Grouse if you want to know). A big smile from her and we were at it. She became more and more talkative and touched me often when laughing. I had turned off the aircon for some time and it started to get warm in the room so I suggested we should take a shower before we decide on swimming or not. She easily agreed and when I started to undress, and got undressed, I heard her ”sigh!!!” and her body trembled in anticipation of what to come. I was already nude when I undressed her and her hands could not stay away from touching me and we did not even get to the shower before we were at it. I went down on her and more ”sigh!!’s” and ate her to orgasm in seconds.
I entered her and we fucked for a while and when to change position I noticed a lot of blood on the bed. She got shy saying it should not be here yet, only in May. I could not care less (again) and had her on top, then doggy style to completion.
She said that maybe she started to bleed since she did not have sex since June 2009, and the next day she txted me saying it was back to normal. (?) Wondering if I shall invite her for a nightcap on my last day, since I really enjoyed being with this gem of a young lady. And, sayang, as they say… She is born in October 89, so I have not reached one of my goal of being with a girl born in the 1990’s on this trip. Nevermind, I have in the past. I have a possible prospect born in 1991 for this trip, but she is sort of shy to meet so far.
Day 9.
Out of town and returned late. Just stopped by the EDSA Entertainment Complex for a beer and to see if some friends where there. Wala, so went back to hotel for some sleep before I was to meet a repeater, Ms. L, the 23yo to return on Sunday.
Day 10.
I had invited Ms. L (from Day 3) to return to Manila and she arrived about 5pm. That was a downer. Had one fuck, but she was a tampo lady wanting to use my laptop to play in internet this time. I told her my laptop was in the office, and she asked if I lied, and I said yes, since I wanted her to focus on me, not internet. I let her stay overnight and sent her home after breakfast Monday morning. She sent me a txt a little later saying she was sorry not being able to satisfy me as she “is just a kid” (her words). She is another somewhat innocent lady that dont know much else than the missionary position and it takes a while to train them and it gets boring. From the meeting a week earlier I had higher expectations.
I think the policy from now on will be “no repeaters” unless there is something really special (what I thought about this young lady).
Day 11
I still have a couple of ladies that I would like to test out today, as in meet up with. Both from Tagged.
One asked to be invited for dinner, and the other for coffee (no nasty, she said). I am not sure what they really mean by this, so I continued to chat with them on mobile during Monday to see if they would meet up on my last evening in Manila.
It turned out to be a little troublesome, so I just told them that I had to attend a dinner before leaving. Then they got more eager to meet, but I had already decided see Ms B again, a 25yo lady from DiA that I also met a year ago. She understood from my DiA profile that I was visiting Manila again, and had been sending me small messages saying she was hoping to meet me for some chocolate and allowance, he he he.
Met up at Harrison Plaza about 5pm. Took her back to the hotel. We sat down to chat and she started to undress since she was there for a reason; To get fucked.
Since we already knew each other, she was absolutely not shy about it, and I played her pussy a little before we had a shower, and she was dripping wet. She admitted that she had been like that since she entered the Jeepney, being on her way to see me again. Life is GOOD!!!
We had dinner in the room, and I recall that the lady from room service looked at me with a huge smile, since she had been serving me late night dinners several nights, finding new ladies in my bed each time.
(When sitting in Manila on my last evening (after dinner) I read in the newspaper that the volcano in Iceland was erupting again, now causing a little trouble for Scotland and Ireland. I was hoping that it would touch on Amsterdam so that my flight would be canceled and that KLM would pay for my stay another week. Well well,,, in my dreams. The flight took off on schedule on Day 12 morning, and I was happy. Another week could have caused me more pain than pleasure since I was exhausted already).
I have been home for two weeks now, and I have the well known depression we all feel at times… missing the maganda, mostly playful, pinays, and need vitamin V or C to even think about fucking the old lady. Life sucks, di ba? I really cannot wait to be back in Paradise.
For most senior members of this thread I guess I did not bring anything new to the table, but I hope newbies will find it entertaining and understand that IT IS VERY EASY to hook up and get laid in Manila.
As it has been mentioned in other posts in this thread, I will like to say that I gave all the ladies, except old Maria, some allowance besides covering their fares, and I think that is a minimum we should do for the gorgeous ladies of the Philippines in whatever place they live among the many islands.
They deserve it sooo much, since spending their time with old and ugly foreigners like us.
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[QUOTE=Gangles]Wow,
I would never have thought that this topic would take off the way that it has.
But reading the posts has highlighted the fact that has not been discussed, and that is, our/your motivation in meeting filipinas.
And that is the key to the whole discussion.
And remember that we are talking about filipinas met via internet dating sites.
Some guys just want to root as many women as possible. OK. As long as they are upfront about it, then OK, and these would probably have the attitude that the filipina should be paid. I guess the statement “pay her to get her to leave” exemplifies this attitude.
Others may be looking for a companion for the medium term, maybe a couple of weeks, while they visit the Phils and travel around a bit. Probably buy her clothes, jewelry, maybe a watch, phone. Should she be paid money as well?
Others, like me, are looking for the special one. I meet and interview a number of women, but my intention is genuine. And in these cases, money is not an issue.
I also set up a number of other meetings, where the mutual intent is heat and play, and I pay them after, always in the form of money for the kids education, or for mama’s medicine etc. because the women have feelings and standards as well.
And there are some who are backups, in the event of an empty bed, and they are paid.
My trips end up as a kind of compromise/conflict of interest. On the one hand, I am looking for miss right, but I also want to have company every night. Sometimes, miss Right does not show, or has mis-represented herself and I make it clear that this will not work. She leaves, and I have an empty bed.
But it cuts both ways.
I thought Miss J1 was just right, tall, thin, intelligent, a warehouse manager. We really hit it off, traveled round, different countries. Then 2 weeks after I had returned home, she sends an email that she has taken a contract in an Arab country, just to prove to herself that she can do it. Still, we keep in touch, met up for her first month vacation, I bought her father a fishing boat to get the family out of the subsistence farming cycle.
I thought Miss M1 was pretty close to what I wanted. We had a lot of time together, including several overseas trips, I put her through two years of school to finish her high school diploma, and I built her a house. After a while, her communications became pretty erratic, and I became suspicious. I found that she had hitched with a local pinoy, sort of de facto husband, had borne a child, and had forgotten to mention it to me. I have cut her out of my will.
I thought Miss M2 was perfect. Wow. Then, a couple of months after I had returned home, she sends an email to say that she had met up with a Korean, she was pregnant, he had left, would I send her more money to pay for her baby.
There are others, of course.
I am putting one through college, one year to go. I am about to pay for Miss A to take a concentrated computer course so she can get a job.
I supported Miss R for 2 years to put her mildly dyslexic daughter through a private school to get her education started. The Miss R started to become a bit erratic in her communications, turns out she had met an Italian, married him, and is now in Italy. And she had 2 other kids that she had forgotten to mention. She was cut out of the will.
Etc, etc..[/QUOTE]
Why on earth do you want to give these women money for school, boats etc when there is a 99% certainty they are doing the same to other guys desperate for companionship and playing on these insecurities??!??!?!?!?!
It makes no sense at all. And guys here wonder why alot of these pinoy girls think foreigners are stupid, gullible idiots??!?!?
Just fuck them have fun and forget them.
I know of 6 girls who have at least 8 guys sending them money and believing all their buullshit. I've seen the emails they send and can't help but think how incredibly stupid some guys are. These girls actually have competitions to see how much money they can scam from you guys in a week!! Its true. I've seen them do it and laugh all about it!!!
Anyway if guys are going to give money away like this then i would suggest you just take the cash out of a ATM and just burn it
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I'm with Jiggy on this one.
Hey Gangles, Why give that Honest Non-Self Absorbed post of your past relationships and strugges that are so helpful to all the members here? I mean come on Man! Why did you treat those young poverished girls in that foriegn country with kindness and respect? And then when you found out one girl burned you why did you not treat the other one like a F-KING HO that she is? Ha why? Next time kick that F-king Ho in the teeth after you F-k that F-king Ho.
If you would have followed Jiggi's high quality informational post's you would have learned how to F-k them F-king Ho's then toss them F-king Ho's in the dirt like they are used to. All for FREE! After, you can post your acomplishments here ISG and give high fives to your imaginary friends.
If you missed Jiggi's 40 High Quality Post's of F-king HO's for FREE here's a short summary below.
Separated by Category:
* Begging for Info & Kissing Up (Alot of Kissing Up)
* Ignorant & Self-Absorbed
* Attacking Member's Sharing Honest Info. Oh, also Self-Absorbed
* Good Information for other Members
Begging for info & Kissing Up:
Posted By Jiggy
1. Well its disappointing to see there are no mongers here who can pick up a girl with out having to pay her for sex. Looks like I am alone here
2. Looks like no here can get it for free and always has to pay for sex.
3. So what are the best websites out there in all you bm's opnion for getting good fucks from for free and paying?
Thanks in advance
4. So have many BM's had any good experiences using DIA to meet girls and eventually have their way with them?
5. So have many BM's had any good experiences using DIA to meet girls and eventually have their way with them?
6. Where exactly is Peyton place?
7. How did you meet these girls? Internet? Are they hookers?
8. Are there any good sex toy/adult shops in Kowloon?
9. Thanks guys. Well if these freebies are availaable at laguna etc. How hard is it to pick up? And if its the maid's day off on Sunday. What time do things get going?
Cheers
10. Thanks guys. Well if these freebies are availaable at laguna etc. How hard is it to pick up? And if its the maid's day off on Sunday. What time do things get going?
Cheers
11. So what would you consider the best bars in Singapore to pick up?
Bar. Lounges, disco's. Clarke Quay or Boat Quay.
Any advice appreciated!
12. So in your expert opinions which bars/clubs are the best ones to goto if you want to pick a a girl and not have to pay for it?
13. Anyone caught an STD from taking girls from Orchard towers?
14. Great pics Tampa! Did she offer anal? Is she Thai and do you know if she is a regular at Ipanema?
Cheers
15. Nice pics! Was she up for anal?
16. I am going to Noumea in 4 weeks and would really appreciate to know which are the best bars, clubs, discoes to visit to pick local girls.
Your answers are much appreciated.
Ignorant & Self Absorbed:
Posted By Jiggy
1. Summary. All gave blow jobs, 4 rimmed, 4 took anal, 7 were shaved and they were all happy to become my "girl friend"
Treat them like ho's or s l you t s and they just get off on it
2. No girl is worth $1300!
3. Most ho's need to be told what to do or given some "physical encouragement".
4. Sometimes these girls need to be shown the "proper way" ie deep throat, anal and get used to it quickly if they haven't done it before. If they want the money make them earn it
Attacking Member's Sharing Honest Info. Oh, also Self Absorbed:
Posted By Jiggy
1. Whats Karma got to do with that?!!! Jealous eh?
2. I said that I pay for dinner. I'm providing this info so if you try properly on CB you might be able to score for just the payment of a dinner.
If you can't deal with that well. Blow me
3. What rubbish!
4. Gaijin has no idea what happens in the real world. He wacks off behind a keyboard.
A sad git
5. Get off this website or get on your knees.
Good Information for other Members:
1. Absolutely Nothing to Report Here
Thats just pathetic. Start sharing some helpful information Jiggy and please stop the Kissing Up to the Respected Members. Yea I only have like 7 posts here but I have already posted more helpful information than your 40+ Posts.
I don't think Members wonder why Pinay's think foreigners are stupid idiots. It's self explanitory.
I'm sure it's something you won't understand so I won't bother trying to educate you on treating other human beings with self respect no matter if they are F-king dumb ass F-king HO's as you call them.
Also, stop with the PM messages Jiggy. I don't swing that way and I'm not interested. Although I am flattered.
Cheers Mate
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Why on earth do you want to give these women money for school, boats etc when there is a 99% certainty they are doing the same to other guys desperate for companionship and playing on these insecurities?!!!!!
It makes no sense at all. And guys here wonder why alot of these pinoy girls think foreigners are stupid, gullible idiots?!!
Just fuck them have fun and forget them.
I know of 6 girls who have at least 8 guys sending them money and believing all their buullshit. I've seen the emails they send and can't help but think how incredibly stupid some guys are. These girls actually have competitions to see how much money they can scam from you guys in a week! Its true. I've seen them do it and laugh all about it!
Anyway if guys are going to give money away like this then I would suggest you just take the cash out of a ATM and just burn it[/QUOTE]
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Jiggy is a troll or even worse
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Why on earth do you want to give these women money... [/QUOTE]
I advice to do full forum seach for Jiggy and then put his comments to a correct perspective. 40 reports starting from May 2005. About free fucks and anal. Mostly questions and negative feedback. Then what I found most disturbing:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=362136&postcount=570[/url]
What in heaven or hell activated this a-hole here again?
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I'm with Jiggy on this one.
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Cheers Mate[/QUOTE]
Tally I would suggest you find a hobby or something to do in your free time. As a newbie you have a lot to learn...............now get on your knees and do what you do best :D
You truly are a legend..............a legend in your own mind LOL
Now get back to the topic here which is chat sites
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Another Jiggy tip for the ones who like to giveaway alot of money and wonder why they get nothing in return.
Don't bother sending the pinoy ho's you chat with on DIA or CB money for a boat, donkey, kids, dogs, lost wallet, etc..........
Instead of wasting all that money just get them a return air ticket to wherever they live. That way at least if you're going to be "donating" money to the above lost causes then do it in a way by buying an air ticket where
you will get some action from her and it wont be all lost money down the drain.
If you're country is strict with visa's and letting in ho's then fly her to a country that isn't and meet her there and then bang the fuck out of her to get your money's worth ;)
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[QUOTE=Jiggy]Why on earth do you want to give these women money for school, boats etc when there is a 99% certainty they are doing the same to other guys desperate for companionship and playing on these insecurities??!??!?!?!?!
It makes no sense at all. And guys here wonder why alot of these pinoy girls think foreigners are stupid, gullible idiots??!?!?
Just fuck them have fun and forget them.
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IMO the only reason to ever give money to women is if it equates to sex. So, if money for school and boats leads to lots of sex (I hope a lot), then it is justified. When you give money, think with your cock not your heart. You will save sooo much money this way!
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To pay or not to pay, that is the question
I agree with TW that Jiggy's series of posts with newbie type questions re where to find "free fucks" then 5 minutes later he's regaling us with stores of how he's banging 9 girls without paying a cent blah blah.
His comments re Gangles also demonstrated either a poor grasp of English or lack of understanding.
However it is certainly true that there are plenty of girls and especially LBs on DIA and to a lesser extent CB who see it is a full time occupation to scam mostly Americans out of their cash. I was told these people aimed to make on average 10-40,000P per month compared with a typical wage here of 6000P for a shop girl.
Gangles, story is different because he talking about women who is has had medium term relationships with which he presumably valued. In this context buying a girl's father a small boat to allow him to fish seems to me a perfectly laudable idea. What is Jiggy planning to do with all the cash he has saved by fooling these young girls, donate it to Uncle Sam to finance the next Goldman Sachs bailout??
As to the guys that send money to girls in the Phils without seeing them or just seeing them for a short trip. yes some of them are being scammed, but the smarter ones can have a perfectly reasonable and mutually beneficial arrangement. Many guys (possibly including many of the lurkers on this forum) are living in what amounts to a sexual jail with little prospect of getting out in the immediate future until their kids are through college etc.
For such guys having an online girl friend can add something to their lives. Let's remember that many guys are happy to pay $2-5 per MINUTE to chat / have phone sex with some woman who is more than likely some fat old woman in nebraska with 3 kids. Why not support a 19 year old Philippina through college instead ? Some of the girls I've known have had such support, and in my view really earned the money they were sent through endless cam shows and patiently listening to boring conversation or less than skilful phone sex etc .
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Post's like Gangles where he just spills it all out in an honest way for others to read, sympathize with and laugh a little at should be encouraged on this site. The entertainment value is great too! I'm sure other members and lurkers have stories relating to being conned or lied to that they are holding back as to not be belittled and put down by immature members here.
Who cares if someone throws their money away or pay's too much for sex? I mean do you really think that with the sea of young hot poverished girls in Phil that paying 1000 vs. 500 for sex is going to drive up the prices overall?
I don’t think the economy in Phil is going to change anytime soon and they continue to pop out kids like Rabbits so the scenario of a girl giving it up for a free meal or at a bargain price will continue for years to come.
The cost of a Filipina that decides to fuck a foreigner for money to pay her rent, sister’s school, buy a new pair of fancy shoes or whatever may cost a few more Peso’s in years to come but is it really a big deal? The worst that can happen is that a Monger years from now will be complaining that his Grandfather is the one who over paid the F-king HO’s and drove up the price. Now it cost him 1500P and it used to be 1000P a hundred yrs ago. What’s that like 10 bucks US?
I’m all for getting a good deal even when it comes to getting laid. The out of pocket expense will always fall on your looks, how you dress and handle yourself, your negotiating skills and your research. Some guys have all that going for them and will still pay more than the going rate either out of compassion for the F-king Ho or they just don’t give a shit if they pay $10 more than they should have. And there will always be those idiot’s (hi jiggy) who don’t not have the looks or skills and relate to begging for info, refer to women as F-king HO’s and treat them like shit and then go around bragging about their accomplishments.
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Jiggy so now your paying for airline tickets for your F-king HO’s??? That's a big step up from a cup of coffee. Or are you just making a terrible attempt at not looking like an Idiot?? It’s pretty obvious your not the smartest guy around. I mean your getting pushed around on a Sex Site. Need I say more?
[QUOTE=Jiggy] Instead of wasting all that money just get them a return air ticket to wherever they live. That way at least if you're going to be "donating" money to the above lost causes then do it in a way by buying an air ticket where
you will get some action from her and it wont be all lost money down the drain.
If you're country is strict with visa's and letting in ho's then fly her to a country that isn't and meet her there and then bang the fuck out of her to get your money's worth.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jiggy]Well i wouldn't spend anyhting near $50 to score with these ladies.
A dinner or coffee and thats it ;)
Why u would want to pay $50 when there is so much freebie pussy in the Phils defies logic..............unless you are really hard up[/QUOTE]
My new hobby is making fun of you jiggy. Its getting rather easy with all the help your giving me :)
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Tally I would suggest you find a hobby or something to do in your free time. As a newbie you have a lot to learn...............now get on your knees and do what you do best :D
You truly are a legend..............a legend in your own mind LOL
Now get back to the topic here which is chat sites[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GregLondon] Let's remember that many guys are happy to pay $2-5 per MINUTE to chat / have phone sex with some woman who is more than likely some fat old woman in nebraska with 3 kids. Why not support a 19 year old Philippina through college instead ? Some of the girls I've known have had such support, and in my view really earned the money they were sent through endless cam shows and patiently listening to boring conversation or less than skilful phone sex etc .[/QUOTE]Good points Greg. I have been checking out DIA etc for Muslim chicks and chicks living in Muslim areas. I even tapped up one from the Sulu Islands. My plan is to plant my French Flag firmly between their thighs and to claim it as Nouvelle-France. I have found in other countries that Muslim women give the best blow jobs. Now it is the turn of the good Muslims of Mindnaao.
Has anybody had any luck there?
Slighlty off topic but I had intended to go with Les Bleus to the World Cup. I had intended to go (in search of dark and Indian pussy). But, what with Algeria being allowed play and the bad organising, I predict a disaster. Better the Pinay pussy we know that the African disaster we prefer not to know.
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Not such a smart idea
[QUOTE=The Departed]Good points Greg. I have been checking out DIA etc for Muslim chicks and chicks living in Muslim areas. I even tapped up one from the Sulu Islands. My plan is to plant my French Flag firmly between their thighs and to claim it as Nouvelle-France. I have found in other countries that Muslim women give the best blow jobs. Now it is the turn of the good Muslims of Mindnaao.
Has anybody had any luck there?
Slighlty off topic but I had intended to go with Les Bleus to the World Cup. I had intended to go (in search of dark and Indian pussy). But, what with Algeria being allowed play and the bad organising, I predict a disaster. Better the Pinay pussy we know that the African disaster we prefer not to know.[/QUOTE]
Mindinao as a whole is fine. Because of the bad publicity there are perhaps only 10% of the foreigners that you might see in Cbu or Luzon. But thast can cut both ways. On the one hand the ratios are good, on the other hand the girls are in general more conservative maybe because they havent seen so many foreigners. If you are just looking for a few girls you should be fine, but if you are looking for 2 or 3 different girls every day you will have better chances in Cebu. You are right that muslim women can indeed be very passionate, but remember that in most of Mindanao they are still a small minority and the areas that they are more dense are probably not so safe.
I think there is a distinction between countries suich as the phils where muslims are a minority and countries such as Indonesia where they are a more confident majority.
Re Africa, I agree there is for sure a decent chance that things will get ugly. Besides Les Bleus had to cheat to get into the finals in any case LOL
In general Africa is a great place for mongering. Though the typical African girl is less to my taste than Asian girls, the numbers and availability are such that its possible to find some very cute girls to suit most tastes. South Africa however would be pretty low down on my list of African destinations for sex. The fact is that its one of the most dangerous countries to visit, and espcially stepping out from the beaten path after dusk. You wil have much better luck in "Black African" countries.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Mindinao as a whole is fine. Because of the bad publicity there are perhaps only 10% of the foreigners that you might see in Cbu or Luzon. But thast can cut both ways. On the one hand the ratios are good, on the other hand the girls are in general more conservative maybe because they havent seen so many foreigners. If you are just looking for a few girls you should be fine, but if you are looking for 2 or 3 different girls every day you will have better chances in Cebu. You are right that muslim women can indeed be very passionate, but remember that in most of Mindanao they are still a small minority and the areas that they are more dense are probably not so safe.
I think there is a distinction between countries suich as the phils where muslims are a minority and countries such as Indonesia where they are a more confident majority.
Re Africa, I agree there is for sure a decent chance that things will get ugly. Besides Les Bleus had to cheat to get into the finals in any case LOL
In general Africa is a great place for mongering. Though the typical African girl is less to my taste than Asian girls, the numbers and availability are such that its possible to find some very cute girls to suit most tastes. South Africa however would be pretty low down on my list of African destinations for sex. The fact is that its one of the most dangerous countries to visit, and espcially stepping out from the beaten path after dusk. You wil have much better luck in "Black African" countries.[/QUOTE]
Jakarta is a great place for mongering and picking up freebies there too. Lots of girls looking for a good time ;)
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Tally Wacker's Ho's
Tally Wacker refers to every woman who has sex as a Ho. Or maybe it is just every woman who has sex with a foreigner.
I think that this colours his judgement, and puts him is a condition where he can not see that the vast majority of filipina are no Ho's, but just ordinary women who like sex.
What is the difference between that and western women who like sex but are not paid for it?
My daughter is as good a case in point as any other. She is single, stunningly attractive, does not have a regular bf right now, and has a root whenever she needs it, just calls one of her smallish group of friends.
In Tally Wacker's judgement, that might make her a Ho.
But the great majority of unattached women in Australia are probably much the same.
And I must say, that of the regular filipinas who I have met, and made love with, none are Ho's, very few ask for money at all, or even indicate that it is expected. And I suspect that many would be insulted if I offered it. They are employed, independent, and well able to support themselves. Some of the guys here have met some of them, and know what I am talking about.
I know a number of filipino families, all are regular people, no Ho's among them. I know a number of single women who could never be classed as Ho's.
So I think that TW should revise his attitude to filipinas as a whole.
As a side issue, there are more prostitutes per head of population in Australia than in any country in SE Asia. And that excludes phone sex, lap dances etc. In Australia you can get commercial sex any time, day or night, any kind, hetero, homo, little boys, little girls. Every newspaper in Australia has daily advertisements by Ho's advertising their services. The biggest sex tour in the world is in Australia, it is called the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and it is supported by government.
There are 400,000 registered prostitutes in germany.
Commercial sex in SE Asia pales into insignificance compared with western countries.
For your consideration.
G
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Could it be....?
[QUOTE=Gangles]
I think that this colours his judgement [/QUOTE]
Haha ... might not the only thing! Could it be that Wally Tacker could just be the reincarnation of a dead parrot ...RIP. Funny that he joined ISG a couple of days after the said deceased parrot croaked out his last strangulated squawk and it sure does sound like him.
Anyways. in case I am just being paranoic, here's a photo that I'm sure TW will appreciate most surely;).
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[QUOTE=Gangles]
Commercial sex in SE Asia pales into insignificance compared with western countries.
For your consideration.
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Agreed with much of your comments but this one is hard to agree with. Maybe the word "official" should be inserted. The sex scene is SE Asia is massive due to poverty.
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Need Suggestions From The Experts
1. I am actually still on the dating sites trying to find Miss Right. In addition to Miss Right, I have been known to philander with Miss Wrong while I am in the Phils. I mean it is a long trip there from PA and I need to get value from my travel dollar.
2. I have concentrated on Cherry Blossoms because there seems to be more legitimate (ha ha in the Phils) girls on that site.
3. My CB Profile clearly says "Smiles will be deleted".
4. And yet i continue to get a few smiles every other day.
5. After reading a few weeks of suggestions on how to let girls know you are only there for passion and not a wife, I decided to try that tact with cute girls who sent me smiles.
6. Yesterday Imelda sent me a smile & I replied with this line I stole from the forum. Thanks to whomever wrote this.
7. You sent me a smile. Hmmmmm. I am not seeking a serious GF at this time, but rather some 'romance, physical passion and intimate friendship during my visit there. However, I am open to meeting the gal of my dreams here who will sweep me off my feet'. Would you be interested to meet when I am there in September?
8. Her reply....i see,..i would love too but i am not so sure if i'm with you at the hotel if you were here.
OK, how should I respond to this and other similar replies? Of course I want her at my hotel...lol.
Thanks, Bob
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Smiles
[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]1. I am actually still on the dating sites trying to find Miss Right. In addition to Miss Right, I have been known to philander with Miss Wrong while I am in the Phils. I mean it is a long trip there from PA and I need to get value from my travel dollar.
2. I have concentrated on Cherry Blossoms because there seems to be more legitimate (ha ha in the Phils) girls on that site.
3. My CB Profile clearly says "Smiles will be deleted".
4. And yet i continue to get a few smiles every other day.
5. After reading a few weeks of suggestions on how to let girls know you are only there for passion and not a wife, I decided to try that tact with cute girls who sent me smiles.
6. Yesterday Imelda sent me a smile & I replied with this line I stole from the forum. Thanks to whomever wrote this.
7. You sent me a smile. Hmmmmm. I am not seeking a serious GF at this time, but rather some 'romance, physical passion and intimate friendship during my visit there. However, I am open to meeting the gal of my dreams here who will sweep me off my feet'. Would you be interested to meet when I am there in September?
8. Her reply....i see,..i would love too but i am not so sure if i'm with you at the hotel if you were here.
OK, how should I respond to this and other similar replies? Of course I want her at my hotel...lol.
Thanks, Bob[/QUOTE]
i wouldn't read too much into the smiles/message distinction. The fact is that only maybe 10-20% of guys write anything meaningful or honest in their profile. Therefore its not an unreasonable strategy for the girls to just browse the profiles and send a message to whoever seems vaguely plausible.
Your message seems a bit too sophisticated for 90% of CB girls to understand properly, unless you are only interested in college girls.
For the "fun girls" I think you can say "Sorry I'm looking for a girl who is open minded about sex and willing to stay with me at my hotel. Do you think that is possible for you? " This will put off some girls but there will certainly be enough to keep you busy. The name of the game is to not waste an inordinate amount of time chasing girls who wil not give you what you want.
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A DIA first
After a few days of messaging and texting, I arranged to meet up with a DIA gal two nights ago. Fairly generic profile, early-mid twenties, 'some college' completed, no occupation, the usual.
So we arrange to meet at A Venue on Makati ave at 8pm, with her coming from J.P. Rizal, not far away. As per my many experiences with DIA and non-DIA gals alike, I'm feeling fairly relaxed about time management.
Therefore I am slightly surprised when at 6:30 I get a text from her saying, 'I'm getting ready now.' And at 7:25 my surprise is upgraded to active anticipation when when I get another text saying 'I am waiting for a taxi now.' Hmmm, 'interesting', thinks I. Then, anticipation swings wildly toward panic, when at 7:45 I get yet another text saying, 'in taxi now be there in 5 mins.
Shit, so much for relaxed time management as I quickly shift gears and I jump into the shower, throw on some clothes, splash on some cologne, grab the essentials and fly out the door for the 15 minute walk to our rendez-vous.
Now it's 7:57, and I'm hustling down Kalayaan, a few minutes from there, wondering how it is that I am actually breaking a sweat to get to a date with a filipina. The the the phone goes off to signal another text, which I read with dread... 'My god ur late, i'm here now, where r u.'
I look at my watch, see that it is 7:59, and figure that if I sprint I can just make it. I race up Makati ave, cross the street, whiz past Mercury Drug, and stop just short of A Venue to catch my breath, wipe my brow, and slowly saunter through the front door.
There she is, with her back toward me, long, silky black hair, shiny tight blouse, short skirt. I paste a casual smile on my face, sit down across from her, stick out my right hand, and say, 'Hi, nice to meet you, I'm...' She doesn't smile, just sticks out her left hand to show me on her watch that it is two minutes past eight, and says, 'You're late.'
I think fast but my mind is blank as this is a dating first for me in Manila. After a pregnant pause, I just give her my best smile and say, 'Wow, our first lovers quarrel. You're beautiful when you're angry. Let's just skip dinner and go have some hot make up sex so we can be friends again.'
With that she bursts out laughing and all is saved. We have a nice date, and she ends up leaving my place at 11 the next morning--as friends.
Manta Ray
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[QUOTE=Towelboy2010].........
3. My CB Profile clearly says "Smiles will be deleted".
4. And yet i continue to get a few smiles every other day.
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My profile on DIA is very explicit. Amongst a few statements about how I am NOT looking for a wife or a serious relationship I also say nobody under 28; you need to be 160 cm or more; no smokers (even social smokers). My mistake is that my profile starts off with "I am a foreigner who...."
So what do I get? Lots of short teeners or early twenties, many girls who smoke, and all with profiles that say they want a genuine serious guy looking for a wife. It proves to me that most girls read the first 3 words of a profile (if that!) and immediately fire off a "Hi" or a "Hello" and that's all. I now have a standard reply that suggests they should read profiles before they send out blanket "Hellos" that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off thoughtful guys like me LOL.
BTW, I also get the gems who read my profile right through, understand exactly what I am looking for, and send me a sensible, long reply that makes me want to reply. I am really reiterating the other tips on this thread suggesting that if you are very explicit in what you want, the worthwhile girls will be there in amongst the dross.
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[QUOTE=Manta Ray]
......... There she is, with her back toward me, long, silky black hair, shiny tight blouse, short skirt. I paste a smile on my face, sit down across from her, stick out my right hand, and say, Hi, nice to meet you, I'm...' She doesn't smile, just sticks out her left hand to show me on her watch that it is two minutes past eight, and says, 'You're late.'
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Manta - that story is so extraordinary. If I didn't know you and know that you never tell lies I would have to challenge the veracity of your account.
That has got to be a first.
I thought that the international genome-mapping program was going to find that filipinas are genetically programmed to be at least 15 minutes late (usually much more) for everything.
She seems like a keeper to me - definitely unique.
Was it time well spent? Are you going to try a repeat and see if it was a one-off punctual event LOL?
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Manta - that story is so extraordinary. If I didn't know you and know that you never tell lies I would have to challenge the veracity of your account.
That has got to be a first.
I thought that the international genome-mapping program was going to find that filipinas are genetically programmed to be at least 15 minutes late (usually much more) for everything.
She seems like a keeper to me - definitely unique.
Was it time well spent? Are you going to try a repeat and see if it was a one-off punctual event LOL?[/QUOTE]
Yep, RK, absolutely true! But alas, though I must award her an A+ for her time management skills, her grade for the more importantly weighted bed skills, will receive, at best a C+. In other words, I was willing to break a bigger sweat getting to her earlier in the evening, than she was willing to break cumming to me later on!
MR
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[QUOTE=Manta Ray]After a few days of messaging and texting, I arranged to meet up with a DIA gal two nights ago. Fairly generic profile, early-mid twenties, 'some college' completed, no occupation, the usual.
So we arrange to meet at A Venue on Makati ave at 8pm, with her coming from J.P. Rizal, not far away. As per my many experiences with DIA and non-DIA gals alike, I'm feeling fairly relaxed about time management.
Therefore I am slightly surprised when at 6:30 I get a text from her saying, 'I'm getting ready now.' And at 7:25 my surprise is upgraded to active anticipation when when I get another text saying 'I am waiting for a taxi now.' Hmmm, 'interesting', thinks I. Then, anticipation swings wildly toward panic, when at 7:45 I get yet another text saying, 'in taxi now be there in 5 mins.
Shit, so much for relaxed time management as I quickly shift gears and I jump into the shower, throw on some clothes, splash on some cologne, grab the essentials and fly out the door for the 15 minute walk to our rendez-vous.
Now it's 7:57, and I'm hustling down Kalayaan, a few minutes from there, wondering how it is that I am actually breaking a sweat to get to a date with a filipina. The the the phone goes off to signal another text, which I read with dread... 'My god ur late, i'm here now, where r u.'
I look at my watch, see that it is 7:59, and figure that if I sprint I can just make it. I race up Makati ave, cross the street, whiz past Mercury Drug, and stop just short of A Venue to catch my breath, wipe my brow, and slowly saunter through the front door.
There she is, with her back toward me, long, silky black hair, shiny tight blouse, short skirt. I paste a casual smile on my face, sit down across from her, stick out my right hand, and say, 'Hi, nice to meet you, I'm...' She doesn't smile, just sticks out her left hand to show me on her watch that it is two minutes past eight, and says, 'You're late.'
I think fast but my mind is blank as this is a dating first for me in Manila. After a pregnant pause, I just give her my best smile and say, 'Wow, our first lovers quarrel. You're beautiful when you're angry. Let's just skip dinner and go have some hot make up sex so we can be friends again.'
With that she bursts out laughing and all is saved. We have a nice date, and she ends up leaving my place at 11 the next morning--as friends.
Manta Ray[/QUOTE]Great Stuff Manta!
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Late For A Date???
[QUOTE=Manta Ray] I'm feeling fairly relaxed about time management.
Now it's 7:57, and I'm hustling down Kalayaan, a few minutes from there, wondering how it is that I am actually breaking a sweat to get to a date with a filipina.
She doesn't smile, just sticks out her left hand to show me on her watch that it is two minutes past eight, and says, 'You're late.'
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I love this girl already. Introduce me...lol.
Thanks for the entertaining story.
Bob
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Non Readers Abound
[QUOTE=Red Kilt] It proves to me that most girls read the first 3 words of a profile (if that!) and immediately fire off a "Hi" or a "Hello" and that's all. I now have a standard reply that suggests they should read profiles before they send out blanket "Hellos" that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off thoughtful guys like me LOL.
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I tried a different tact. This is the last paragraph of my profile text - which is a long as they allow by character count.
To assure you took the time & interest to read my profile, start your message with the phrase "I like football too".
If I do not see this phrase I will assume you did not take a minute to get to know me & just delete the message.
SMILES are lazy & will be deleted.
VERY OCASSIONALLY, I get a reply like this....Robert, "I like football too". It's great to read a profile as straight forward as yours and I truly agree with you.
I even got this one once which was cute...i read your profile just right after i have sent you my first message and should i be sorry that i did not started with the "i like football too" phrase?.. Von.
I have to agree with you 100%. It is clear to me that very few women actually take the time to read a profile.
But it does help sift the wheat from the chaff when you are a serious marriage minded looker.
Thanks, Bob
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Profiles On Cb Dia And Others
My profile is quite long, and detailed as to what I want.
Like others here, I get a bunch of ladies who make contact without reading the profile, but I think that about half do read it, because I get comments about - you want 5'4" or taller, and I am...
And I also tend to send long emails.
I actually think that many women do not have the education or concentration to read long messages.
I have also found that if I put two questions in one message, it is rearely that both are answered, so now I ask oly one question per message. That works OK.
So my longer profile acts as a kind of filter for more intelligent women, which is what I am looking for.
G
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[QUOTE=Gangles]My profile is quite long, and detailed as to what I want.
Like others here, I get a bunch of ladies who make contact without reading the profile, but I think that about half do read it, because I get comments about - you want 5'4" or taller, and I am...
And I also tend to send long emails.
I actually think that many women do not have the education or concentration to read long messages.
I have also found that if I put two questions in one message, it is rearely that both are answered, so now I ask oly one question per message. That works OK.
So my longer profile acts as a kind of filter for more intelligent women, which is what I am looking for.
G[/QUOTE]Yep G I do the same, despite my irritation I have found I must keep my txt's dead simple. Otherwise I find I'm repeating questions/info that never gets answered/comprehended by pinay's. They're not dumb, it's just their style. They live in a social whirl of constant txt'ing (often juggling multiple bf's).
AV
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[QUOTE=Gangles]My profile is quite long, and detailed as to what I want.
Like others here, I get a bunch of ladies who make contact without reading the profile, but I think that about half do read it, because I get comments about - you want 5'4" or taller, and I am...
And I also tend to send long emails.
I actually think that many women do not have the education or concentration to read long messages.
I have also found that if I put two questions in one message, it is rearely that both are answered, so now I ask oly one question per message. That works OK.
So my longer profile acts as a kind of filter for more intelligent women, which is what I am looking for.
G[/QUOTE]I do the opposite & have very few words. I know where you're coming from though G, talking to poor chicks gets boring fast. The poor chicks on the dating sites have very narrow life experience. If you are after more intelligent girls you need to get off the dating sites & get yourself introduced to the daughters of better off families or girls with good jobs.
Avoid becoming a just an ATM machine to the poverty stricken.
Of course keep in mind many of the wealthy Filipino's are extremely spoiled & childish (often dangerously so).
Opportunity abounds. One of my dentists is a chick. Slender, intelligent, well off compared to the usual - she invited herself into my bed.
A female GP I visited, same thing.
A police senior inspector at Camp Crame (married with 4 kid's if you please) - same.
Accounants, Lawyers, pharmacists etc etc done them all.
College girls on the make are common, some are intelligent women (most are dumb shits just fucking their way through school).
AV
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This DateInAsia lass [carmenconsigo] says "I'm just a lying prostitute", but perhaps s/he is being very honest!
[i] hey, i'm just a lying prostitute. been caught now.
i agreed to hide my profile but i dont.. i keep trying to get money from stupid kanos.. my bf dont realize i am here doing this.. hehe... (wink wink)
so i will get money from him.. and from you.. lol. so please, please.. send me money for school.. er.. umm.. i mean my sick mom... yes she is dead now and we cant bury her.. and my brother has accident and needs dental appointment.. lol
oh and since you are generous... can i have a littel extra "allowance" to go do some partying with my frens.. haha...[/i]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=875c1c00-c910-43d5-b0f8-0ec9324a65f6[/url]
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Jilted Johns
[QUOTE=KongKing]This DateInAsia lass [carmenconsigo] says "I'm just a lying prostitute", but perhaps she is being very honest!
[i] hey, i'm just a lying prostitute. been caught now.
i agreed to hide my profile but i dont.. i keep trying to get money from stupid kanos.. my bf dont realize i am here doing this.. hehe... (wink wink)
so i will get money from him.. and from you.. lol. so please, please.. send me money for school.. er.. umm.. i mean my sick mom... yes she is dead now and we cant bury her.. and my brother has accident and needs dental appointment.. lol
oh and since you are generous... can i have a littel extra "allowance" to go do some partying with my frens.. haha...[/i]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=875c1c00-c910-43d5-b0f8-0ec9324a65f6[/url][/QUOTE]
Some guys are very petty and take great efforts to destroy the reputation of girls they rightly or wrongly feel crossed by. Maybe the guy who got this girl's password or more likely just set up a new account with her photo has a legitimate grievance maybe he is just another jealous psycho, in any case this kind of thing is in my view a rather childish way of dealing with the problem.
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There are some great profiles on DIA and some smoking hot women too...............CB has quite a few too
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Really???
[QUOTE=Jiggy]There are some great profiles on DIA and some smoking hot women too...............CB has quite a few too[/QUOTE]
Interesting....
Not only that: There is a rumour going around that the Pope is a Catholic as well !
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[QUOTE=Jiggy]There are some great profiles on DIA and some smoking hot women too...............CB has quite a few too[/QUOTE]I've just begun on CB. I've had maybe 100 girls sending me a smile msg or an email, but they range from ugly to average.
I assume the top tier one, got enough requests so they don't need to msg plonkers who are trying to score, and instead wait for plonkers to msg her and make her pick. Am I right?
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]
I assume the top tier one, got enough requests so they don't need to msg plonkers who are trying to score, and instead wait for plonkers to msg her and make her pick. Am I right?[/QUOTE]
Yes correct, especially on DIA.
Many of the smart girls know that they just need to reveal a bit of cleavage to hook plenty of "hits"; then they just trawl through the hits and pick and choose.
Some of course just send a message to everyone who visits their account and play the odds that way.
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Cb / Dia
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I've just begun on CB. I've had maybe 100 girls sending me a smile msg or an email, but they range from ugly to average.
I assume the top tier one, got enough requests so they don't need to msg plonkers who are trying to score, and instead wait for plonkers to msg her and make her pick. Am I right?[/QUOTE]
Yes its actually not easy for high quality real girls to use DIA/CB proactively.
The point is that if you are a good looking real girl the key question is "will this guy be coming to my city soon." And there is no way to search for that. If they search for say Cebu they will just get the Pinoy boys plus the expats who they are usually not so interested in. If they search for say 40 something guys from the US on DIA most of the hits will be guys planning a trip to Thailand or China so thye just have to set out their stall and see who finds them.
Of course the scammers/cam girls are not interested in the guys who are really coming they are just interested in finding lonely guys who want to chat. The older girls/ chubsters /single mums etc can't afford to just wait for people to find them as they wil get few hits so have no choice but being proactive.
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non-pinays on CB
I realize this probably is not the proper place but I ask because folks here probably have the most experience with CB. I created a very basic profile on there recently just to browse and wasn't planning on doing anything until about a month before my next trip. Then I received two emails notifying me that I have smiles from two Russian girls. I didn't even know there were EE girls on there. Is this pure scam that they do to new members to try to get them to pay? I'm curious since I was actually considering going to Russia as a tourist.
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No its not a scam trust me on this one. Been there done that. You need to get on the next plane as fast as you can and go where your heart takes you. This could be a once in a life time expierience. Make sure to report back to us here on ISG about your trip of a lifetime. Goodluck!
[QUOTE=Toronto]I realize this probably is not the proper place but I ask because folks here probably have the most experience with CB. I created a very basic profile on there recently just to browse and wasn't planning on doing anything until about a month before my next trip. Then I received two emails notifying me that I have smiles from two Russian girls. I didn't even know there were EE girls on there. Is this pure scam that they do to new members to try to get them to pay? I'm curious since I was actually considering going to Russia as a tourist.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Toronto]I realize this probably is not the proper place but I ask because folks here probably have the most experience with CB. I created a very basic profile on there recently just to browse and wasn't planning on doing anything until about a month before my next trip. Then I received two emails notifying me that I have smiles from two Russian girls. I didn't even know there were EE girls on there. Is this pure scam that they do to new members to try to get them to pay? I'm curious since I was actually considering going to Russia as a tourist.[/QUOTE]
Hi Dude
I would be very cautious on this one..............IF you are going over there anyway then sure meet up if you want but make sure you find out BEFORE you meet them what they want. Another scam doing the rounds is posting pics of other hot babes pretending to be themselves.
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[QUOTE=Jiggy]Hi Dude
I would be very cautious on this one..............IF you are going over there anyway then sure meet up if you want but make sure you find out BEFORE you meet them what they want. Another scam doing the rounds is posting pics of other hot babes pretending to be themselves.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking too it has to be scam, I was just surprised since I signed up only for my next trip to the PI. I won't even bother replying to these smiles since they are nowhere near where I would go as a tourist.
Tally Wacker, dude there is no need for sarcastic answers. I was just trying to figure out if CB was mostly legit or full of scammers.
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[QUOTE=KongKing]This DateInAsia lass [carmenconsigo] says "I'm just a lying prostitute", but perhaps s/he is being very honest!
[i] hey, i'm just a lying prostitute. been caught now.
i agreed to hide my profile but i dont.. i keep trying to get money from stupid kanos.. my bf dont realize i am here doing this.. hehe... (wink wink)
so i will get money from him.. and from you.. lol. so please, please.. send me money for school.. er.. umm.. i mean my sick mom... yes she is dead now and we cant bury her.. and my brother has accident and needs dental appointment.. lol
oh and since you are generous... can i have a littel extra "allowance" to go do some partying with my frens.. haha...[/i]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=875c1c00-c910-43d5-b0f8-0ec9324a65f6[/url][/QUOTE]Its a jilted boyfriend posting as her most likely. If you ever try logging on as a girl on these sites its amazing how many abusive messages you will see from guys who have been burned & now compound what total losers they are by doing this.
AV
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[QUOTE=Toronto]I realize this probably is not the proper place but I ask because folks here probably have the most experience with CB. I created a very basic profile on there recently just to browse and wasn't planning on doing anything until about a month before my next trip. Then I received two emails notifying me that I have smiles from two Russian girls. I didn't even know there were EE girls on there. Is this pure scam that they do to new members to try to get them to pay? I'm curious since I was actually considering going to Russia as a tourist.[/QUOTE]
I always wait a day or so to respond to new members. Most of the scammers
have been kicked off the site by then.
99% of the Russian ladies are scammers.
CB does the best job of sorting out the beggers and ladyboys.
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Sexy Doesn't Mean Sexual
GORGEOUS18 on DIA writes---
ATTENTION: SEXY DOESN'T MEAN SEXUAL
I am NOT looking for LUST adventures.... I want to connect with you physically, emotionally, and intellectually.
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Logging on as a "girl"? WHat a thought. I've never logged on as a woman, nor a "girl". Should I buy some panty hose to get in the mood?
[QUOTE=Amavida]Its a jilted boyfriend posting as her most likely. If you ever try logging on as a girl on these sites its amazing how many abusive messages you will see from guys who have been burned & now compound what total losers they are by doing this.
AV[/QUOTE]
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Hello, Gents,
I am new here and planning my first trip to the Philippines. Initially I was considering a foreign bride (and that is still in the back of my mind) but first and foremost I want to relax and have an enjoyable vacation while dating a few girls to see my level of sexual and romantic interest. In the USA I've never dated a woman more than 5 or 6 years younger (not counting the brief relationship I had with the super hot 23 year old topless dancer 7 years ago half my age) and I've never dated any asian woman. I'm in my mid 50's tall lean and athletic and not bad looking for an old guy and I hope my smile and blue eyes help my efforts. The major attraction to asian women initially is their cultural preference for older men. I'm not looking for quantity but quality and if I ever did get serious with a girl here she would have to be taller than average, very petite and slim, hae a pretty face, with a super sexy pair of tits (I'm sure I'm not alone here with these preferences). I don't intend to mislead any girls I meet and I'm not on a quest to see how much sex I can get for free.
I plan on meeting girls in the course of site-seeing and browsing the malls in a major city although I just joined DIA and CB to see what those sites are all about. I'm savvy about scamming and will also use the internet and cell phone to meet attractive women during my travels. I'm thinking about taking 7 to 14 days to visit beginning as early as mid July although this could be delayed based several things and in that case postponed to later this year or early next year. I have not decided where I will go yet although Davao and Cebu City are high on my list. I read in this thread (or somewhere in ISG) that there may be taller women in Iligan; but I'm doubtful despite wanting to believe there must be a region of Philippines where a gene pool exists to make such a claim true (I think the poster also said that in addition to being taller they had bigger breasts too; now that really is too good to be true!). I think it's doubtful but I want to believe!
Any thoughts or suggestions anyone can offer are appreciated (like where do we find the taller women?!) or any travel tips from the experienced travelers here are most welcomed. I enjoy ISG and find the information here invaluable for a would-be traveler like myself as I plan my first trip. I found this thread after joining the internet dating websites and have enjoyed reading posts here as well as a few other threads. I'll stay in touch and post a report of my travels sometime after the fact. Good to be here good to be in good company.
Cheers
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Disappointing Search Engine
As far as I know I can't do a search on DIA or CB specifying height-range and city and also include the option of finding only those girls currently online.
That's very disappointing! Have I missed something? Anyone found a way to do this? TIA for any help you can offer.
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DIA search
[QUOTE=Doingourduty]As far as I know I can't do a search on DIA or CB specifying height-range and city and also include the option of finding only those girls currently online.
That's very disappointing! Have I missed something? Anyone found a way to do this? TIA for any help you can offer.[/QUOTE]On Date In Asia, when doing a search, right next to the country drop-down box, there is a place to enter the city name. No way to search on height, weight, etc
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]..........
I'm not looking for quantity but quality and if I ever did get serious with a girl here she would have to be taller than average, very petite and slim, hae a pretty face, with a super sexy pair of tits (I'm sure I'm not alone here with these preferences). I don't intend to mislead any girls I meet and I'm not on a quest to see how much sex I can get for free.
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Any thoughts or suggestions anyone can offer are appreciated (like where do we find the taller women?!) or any travel tips from the experienced travelers here are most welcomed. ................
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You have the right attitude in that you are just here to relax, have a look around and see what you can find. The best opportunities will pop up when you least expect it.
There is no area in the PI where women are taller or have bigger boobs. A tall filipina is a 5ft 6 ins one, and who then wears high heels. It is very hit or miss on the dating sites too, as many women just guess on their heights and have no idea of their real height. (I met a woman who said she was 5ft5ins and turned out to be barely 5ft - she just guessed her size).
In all seriousness, if you really do want tall, full-bodied women then you should take a trip to Mongolia. I have just returned from there and the women are absolutely stunning. Tall, model-like, beautifully dressed, full bodied, and horny as hell too LOL.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]You have the right attitude in that you are just here to relax, have a look around and see what you can find. The best opportunities will pop up when you least expect it.
There is no area in the PI where women are taller or have bigger boobs. A tall filipina is a 5ft 6 ins one, and who then wears high heels. It is very hit or miss on the dating sites too, as many women just guess on their heights and have no idea of their real height. (I met a woman who said she was 5ft5ins and turned out to be barely 5ft. She just guessed her size).
In all seriousness, if you really do want tall, full-bodied women then you should take a trip to Mongolia. I have just returned from there and the women are absolutely stunning. Tall, model-like, beautifully dressed, full bodied, and horny as hell too LOL.[/QUOTE]Qingdao also has some fine specimens, who generally seem taller than most Chinese girls. The same long hair, porcelain white skin, and boobs of all size and shape. Also highly recommended for a trip! Best part is theres not that many white guys around spoiling /despoiling the place.
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]Hello, Gents,
I'm in my mid 50's tall lean and athletic and not bad looking for an old guy and I hope my smile and blue eyes help my efforts. The major attraction to asian women initially is their cultural preference for older men.
I have not decided where I will go yet although Davao and Cebu City are high on my list.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
When you arrive in Manila you will take the Brad Pitt pill that I and many others take...you will very gwapo and will have many girls more than half your age want to rock your boat.....My fav girl is way more than half my age and sees nothing wrong in dating a man older than her father....
As for tall girls I would go with RK's advice. The reason why I like Filis so much because they can wear heels...when RK and I had dinner, my girl was wearing 5" heels and was very comfortable. She loves heels, I love heels so is a perfect match forguys like me :) Remember we are all the same height when in bed shagging :D
I personally prefer Cebu and Davao, really like Cebuanas and Davao has a lot of regular girls. Both have lots of universities and nursing schools so plenty of chances...
Take your time, as to quote my good mate Groin Strain "am in lust already" ...and he was only at the arrivals baggage claim :)
Takes everyone time to figure out the scammers - some are not so blindingly obvious trust me - and take your time with a girl especially if you have an idea to marry her. Meet the family, see if she asks for cash immediately, lots of stories on the Board about the pitfalls etc.
Have fun...PM me, let me know when you are there as if I am I like to meet ISG guys, some dont but I do and have made some excellent friends through the Board.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]........
As for tall girls I would go with RK's advice. The reason why I like Filis so much because they can wear heels...when RK and I had dinner, my girl was wearing 5" heels and was very comfortable. She loves heels, I love heels so is a perfect match for guys like me :) Remember we are all the same height when in bed shagging ...................
Have fun...PM me, let me know when you are there as if I am I like to meet ISG guys, some dont but I do and have made some excellent friends through the Board.[/QUOTE]
WRs girl looked unbelievable in the 5 inch heels and the short, tight, sexy black dress. It does something magic to their figures LOL - makes the butt gyrate in glorous ways, and watching her walk gave me a fantasy of the same gyrations in the bed too.
(excuse me while I wipe the slobber off the keyboard).
I agree with WR on everything he said about destinations, about taking it slow and easy, and watching for scams too. Get yourself off to Cebu and Davao as well as Manila.
PM me when you are here as I live in Manila. I am always happy to meet any of the ISG brethren. So far 4/4 have turned out to be cool guys so you can be #5.
Good luck
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]As for tall girls I would go with RK's advice. The reason why I like Filis so much because they can wear heels...when RK and I had dinner, my girl was wearing 5" heels and was very comfortable. She loves heels, I love heels so is a perfect match forguys like me :) Remember we are all the same height when in bed shagging :D.[/QUOTE]Hello, WR! I'm taking my Indonesian student friend (whos still 21!) on a business trip with me next week, and thanks to a kindly shoe store here, shes about to get another pair of 5 inchers. Black, with straps and studs and I can already imagine her in those and the black stockings and very little else.
An Asian girl in High Heels. Can't be beaten!
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Cb
Jeez, its just too easy.
A chat from a CB lady in ozamiz. Her profile says shes looking for hubby only, don't bother to contact her otherwise. 40, attractive, kids. Yet quickly in first chat, to my bad-boy profile (i'm looking for fun only):
[quote]her: as you know am seriouily looking for a lifetime partner but doesnt mena am not open to a friendship
ME: friendship then
her: yeah i can show you arround if you want to coem and see philippies
her: theres a lot of nice beaches here
ME: whats ur fave beach there
her: only dakak but theres a nicer in bohol and in palawan ,,also the popular boracay island
ME: im only looking for fun hun. Some beer, live band, lovemaking and beach there
her: ok it fine to me. yes we have a beaches[/quote]From a 29-year-old hottie in Bacolad, similar:
[quote]ME: did u read my profile?
Bacoladchick: ya
ME: what u looking for
Bacoladchick: my soulmate hes willing to meet me here marry me
ME: then were not compatible
Bacoladchick: well are u coming
ME: ya im coming to filipines but not interested in marrying
Bacoladchick: what u want then
ME: only some good times going to the bar listenting to a band, maybe some travel, some lovemaking, going to the beach if its near, seeing some movies
Bacoladchick: ok
Long pause here
Bacoladchick: when u coming
ME: octobber
Bacoladchick: we can meet then
ME: I thought u did not want my kind of fun, only marry
Bacoladchick: ok
Bacoladchick: no I will stay you and tour you if you will acept me[/quote]Way to easy. From a 29-year-old cutie in Pagadian:
[quote]her: zamboanga
ME: did u read my profile
her: yes
ME: how old r u
ME: im 49
her: i am 29
ME: what r u looking for
her: guy like have fun
ME: thats me
her: hmm
ME: when i come to filipines im looking for gf when im there
her: yes
ME: live band, shop the mall, beach, lovemaking, some travel maybe
her: ah..ok
ME: u interest
her: yes[/quote]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Hello, WR! I'm taking my Indonesian student friend (whos still 21!) on a business trip with me next week, and thanks to a kindly shoe store here, shes about to get another pair of 5 inchers. Black, with straps and studs and I can already imagine her in those and the black stockings and very little else.
An Asian girl in High Heels. Can't be beaten![/QUOTE]
Lovely jubly....filipinas, slim, petitie, 5" heels, stockings...sound like my cutie the evening after we met RK for dinner.....she looks good also in leather gear (BDSM stuff she chose on a specialist web site) and restraints - she loves being tied up..so I do as I ama gentleman
That black dress does something for many guys including me, eyes on her a lot, very nice for an old fat kinky bugger like me :D
We were on the plane to Davao...she went to the toilet, high wedgies, tight short jeans...and so many guys looked at her ass...delightful moment.....
Have fun FF and RK and see you (and MR) in July...come to Cebu....she has a real school uniform now...she got another one especially for me...she has to have 2 for college but knew I would appreciate an extra one....lots of spanking will ensue :D
And Doingourduty....there are so many 'normal' girls like my cutie and RK and FF's cuties, all need some gentle persuasion and the rewards are there...
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In praise of..... vegatables !
A lady friend from Manila who I know (27 married to a Canadian who lives in Canada) and I have been chatting and presumably we will meet and bang on my next trip.
She sent me an email stating she was going away on a vacation and if she couldn't find any guys on the beach, she at least had her eggplant.
(Eggplant FYI, aka talong is famous in Phils as a euphemism for a dick)
Last night was online chatting with a friend from Palawan, who sweetly told me she missed me and was horny etc.
All the words we want to hear.
Webcams were turned on on, she started to play and dance on her bed, and then she said " wait. I'm just going to the kitchen ".
Came back with an eggplant. She then put a condom on the eggplant
(says " it gets itchy" LOL. Not that eggplants carry STD's!)
And proceeded to insert said eggplant. She seemed to enjoy it as she was screaming my name.
So now you know, if your GF doesn't have a vibrator and is caught in a horny moment, direct her to the nearest Fruit and Veg purveyor.
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Cultural preference
[QUOTE=Doingourduty]Hello, Gents,
I am new here and planning my first trip to the Philippines. Initially I was considering a foreign bride (and that is still in the back of my mind) but first and foremost I want to relax and have an enjoyable vacation while dating a few girls to see my level of sexual and romantic interest. In the USA I've never dated a woman more than 5 or 6 years younger (not counting the brief relationship I had with the super hot 23 year old topless dancer 7 years ago half my age) and I've never dated any asian woman. I'm in my mid 50's tall lean and athletic and not bad looking for an old guy and I hope my smile and blue eyes help my efforts. The major attraction to asian women initially is their cultural preference for older men. I'm not looking for quantity but quality and if I ever did get serious with a girl here she would have to be taller than average, very petite and slim, hae a pretty face, with a super sexy pair of tits (I'm sure I'm not alone here with these preferences). I don't intend to mislead any girls I meet and I'm not on a quest to see how much sex I can get for free.
I plan on meeting girls in the course of site-seeing and browsing the malls in a major city although I just joined DIA and CB to see what those sites are all about. I'm savvy about scamming and will also use the internet and cell phone to meet attractive women during my travels. I'm thinking about taking 7 to 14 days to visit beginning as early as mid July although this could be delayed based several things and in that case postponed to later this year or early next year. I have not decided where I will go yet although Davao and Cebu City are high on my list. I read in this thread (or somewhere in ISG) that there may be taller women in Iligan; but I'm doubtful despite wanting to believe there must be a region of Philippines where a gene pool exists to make such a claim true (I think the poster also said that in addition to being taller they had bigger breasts too; now that really is too good to be true!). I think it's doubtful but I want to believe!
Any thoughts or suggestions anyone can offer are appreciated (like where do we find the taller women?!) or any travel tips from the experienced travelers here are most welcomed. I enjoy ISG and find the information here invaluable for a would-be traveler like myself as I plan my first trip. I found this thread after joining the internet dating websites and have enjoyed reading posts here as well as a few other threads. I'll stay in touch and post a report of my travels sometime after the fact. Good to be here good to be in good company.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
I think it is a mistake to regard the Phili girl's acceptance of older men as a "cultural preference" though this is certainly a fantasy that many older men who come here like to have. If you ask a 19 year old Pinay whether she would be interested in a 40 year old Pinoy guy, she will be incredulous (unless of course there is a huge difference in economic position.). What's really going on is that foreign guys are judged by different standards. Whereas her friends and family would be aghast about the idea of her dating a 40 year old Pinoy they can accept that she is going out with a 60 year old foreign guy without question (unless she comes from an upmarket background in which case the acceptable age gap is lowered). So visa, money, treats , staying at decent hotels, going on trips, are all a big part of it, combined with generally better attitudes and in some cases more heallthy and fit physiques (for a given age) - if the benefits of western healthcare are not outweighed by the problems of a western diet.
I'm not sayiung that these girls can't have genuine afection and love for older guys, but let';s not kid ourselves that these are islands on which young females have a mysterious cultural preference for older guys.
On the taller girl's front, unless you develop a preference for ladyboys, the best advice may be to just get over it. There is no geographic enclave of taller pinays. Girls from richer families will on average be taller, but are in general more difficult to find/attract too. The upside is that if you ar just looking for a few girls rather than a constant stream there are so many girls to choose from that you should someone.
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]Hello, Gents, I am new here and planning my first trip to the Philippines. Initially I was considering a foreign bride (and that is still in the back of my mind) but first and foremost I want to relax and have an enjoyable vacation while dating a few girls to see my level of sexual and romantic interest ...[/QUOTE]
The girls will aggressively tempt you into jumping quickly into some type of emotional commitments. That will be one of your biggest challenges, in my view: remaining casual enough to play the field while you are there. Just tell yourself, over and over, that you are not going to make any commitments or reach any grand conclusions during your trip. Leave those for a couple months following your trip - after you've had a chance to clear your head and put the trip in perspective.
Sounds like you've done lots of good prep work. Just my 2 cents: nothing prepares you ...
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]On the taller girl's front, unless you develop a preference for ladyboys, the best advice may be to just get over it. There is no geographic enclave of taller pinays. Girls from richer families will on average be taller, but are in general more difficult to find/attract too. [/QUOTE]If you really want taller Filipinas then get something smiliar to the attached website.
They will all instantly become 5ft 6. The only problem is when they remove their shoes you wonder " where did my honey go ! "
[url]http://www.pierresilber.com/highheels14.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Lovely jubly....filipinas, slim, petitie, 5" heels, stockings...sound like my cutie the evening after we met RK for dinner.....she looks good also in leather gear (BDSM stuff she chose on a specialist web site) :D
We were on the plane to Davao...she went to the toilet, high wedgies, tight short jeans...and so many guys looked at her ass...
Have fun FF and RK and see you (and MR) in July...come to Cebu....she has a real school uniform now...she got another one especially for me...she has to have 2 for college but knew I would appreciate an extra one....lots of spanking will ensue :D[/QUOTE]Hey WR. bored at work and found the following.
[url]http://asianstreetmeat.com/slutwear/[/url]
Thought of you as I was perusing the said items of clothing, lol.
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In case you haven't got anything else to do
From a DIA lady in Cebu.
"now I'm 2nd year college at asian college of technology now I stop studying because I don't have money to pay for the scholl so I am looking for work so if somebody is intersted to marry me it is o. K for me because I'm free.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Hey WR. bored at work and found the following.
[url]http://asianstreetmeat.com/slutwear/[/url]
Thought of you as I was perusing the said items of clothing, lol.[/QUOTE]
Thanks FF, excellent sites and the Pierre Silber site I will certainly buy from, I just let my cutie decide as she has excellent taste in sexy clothes and heels, as your saw when you met her. Never shy of wearing heels...and **** wear ...... excellent combo for dirty kinky old men like you and me.
You did not see her in the short black dress...RK did as did others in Davao, simple, short (with her 5" heels) and cost 850 pesos (shoes cost more!). her ass is a peach in that dress....
And she also choses from [url]www.honour.co.uk[/url] Some excellent BDSM and it delivers direct to the hotel in Manila..what more can a man ask for. Last time she wanted a vibrating spanker....well, what is a man to do (I am after all a gentleman :D)
Catch you soon
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]
You did not see her in the short black dress...RK did as did others in Davao, simple, short (with her 5" heels) and cost 850 pesos (shoes cost more!). her ass is a peach in that dress....
[/QUOTE]
I saw it. Peach, Melon, Jumbo Apples, jostling for attention.
I had to put my hands in my pockets as i went down the stairs behind her (for many different reasons). Almost lost my footing on the steps too LOL.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]On Date In Asia, when doing a search, right next to the country drop-down box, there is a place to enter the city name. No way to search on height, weight, etc[/QUOTE]Yup. and I use that particular search feature frequently to find tall girls within a particular city; all that's missing is the option to only show users currently online. DIA also provides a search showing all online women but just doesn't let me combine with location and height.
Same with CB as far as I know.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]You have the right attitude in that you are just here to relax, have a look around and see what you can find. The best opportunities will pop up when you least expect it.
There is no area in the PI where women are taller or have bigger boobs. A tall filipina is a 5ft 6 ins one, and who then wears high heels. It is very hit or miss on the dating sites too, as many women just guess on their heights and have no idea of their real height. (I met a woman who said she was 5ft5ins and turned out to be barely 5ft. She just guessed her size).
In all seriousness, if you really do want tall, full-bodied women then you should take a trip to Mongolia. I have just returned from there and the women are absolutely stunning. Tall, model-like, beautifully dressed, full bodied, and horny as hell too LOL.[/QUOTE]Appreciate your help Red Kilt. Thank God for high heels on short girls! Of course I'm a fan of heels on a girl 5'6" to 5'9" too! Your comment about your acquaintance who didn't know how tall she was matches my experience chatting online when searching and interviewing tall girls. I'm not convinced (in general) they don't know exactly how tall they are even when claiming ignorance. Over estimating height seems pretty self-serving when advertising for attention among a sea of profiles of short women. I can't believe I'm starting to think 5'5" is tall (so I'm acclimating to the Philippines already).
Now you have me curious about Mongolia so I'll have to look into that. Is there an ISG thread here for Mongolia? I like tall but very lean (not full-bodied in that sense) especially if prospecting for a life partner (not to mention my fondness for ample boobs). Are the Mongolian women as hard working and industrious as Philippines? I like the hardworking nature of Philippine women (they do very well in school and typcially becoming highly paid nurses in USA which is important to me if she wants to send money home to help her family).
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Qingdao also has some fine specimens, who generally seem taller than most Chinese girls. The same long hair, porcelain white skin, and boobs of all size and shape. Also highly recommended for a trip! Best part is theres not that many white guys around spoiling /despoiling the place.[/QUOTE]I'M making a note on Qingdao because of your comment. This is the similar idea that there could be a region with a certain gene-pool that grows taller women. I have noticed looking on DIA and CB that China dolls are generally much taller than Philippine women. As I get deeper into this process of looking closely at the women from different Asian cultures I'm starting to develop a preference for Chinese women (physical appearance) more so than Philippine. That preference is coming from the height difference but also from their observing facial characteristics. Philippine women have very wide noses that I don't find attractive relative to their Chinese counterparts (fortunately there are exceptions). I've noticed Chinese women more generally want men within 10 years their age (of course there are exceptions here too) where Philippine women prefer (or tolerate) much older mates. No doubt my quest will require a trip to China sooner than later.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]When you arrive in Manila you will take the Brad Pitt pill that I and many others take...you will very gwapo and will have many girls more than half your age want to rock your boat.....My fav girl is way more than half my age and sees nothing wrong in dating a man older than her father....
As for tall girls I would go with RK's advice. The reason why I like Filis so much because they can wear heels...when RK and I had dinner, my girl was wearing 5" heels and was very comfortable. She loves heels, I love heels so is a perfect match forguys like me :) Remember we are all the same height when in bed shagging :D
I personally prefer Cebu and Davao, really like Cebuanas and Davao has a lot of regular girls. Both have lots of universities and nursing schools so plenty of chances...
Take your time, as to quote my good mate Groin Strain "am in lust already" ...and he was only at the arrivals baggage claim :)
Takes everyone time to figure out the scammers - some are not so blindingly obvious trust me - and take your time with a girl especially if you have an idea to marry her. Meet the family, see if she asks for cash immediately, lots of stories on the Board about the pitfalls etc.
Have fun...PM me, let me know when you are there as if I am I like to meet ISG guys, some dont but I do and have made some excellent friends through the Board.[/QUOTE]Hey Wicked Roger... I will definitely make an effort to connect with you when there. Planning on Manila, Cebu and Davao. I recently bought an Apple iPad and thinking this will be a good device to take with me because it's so small and compact to check/report to ISG and the dating sites (assuming I will be able to find hotel with free wifi). I haven't done much international travel recently; can anyone tell me if I need a special adaptor to use a standard device that I would simple plug into a 110 VAC 60 Htz wall outlet in USA? Need to be able to charge my iPad.
BTW 5" heels sound very hot!
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]WRs girl looked unbelievable in the 5 inch heels and the short, tight, sexy black dress. It does something magic to their figures LOL. Makes the butt gyrate in glorous ways, and watching her walk gave me a fantasy of the same gyrations in the bed too.
(excuse me while I wipe the slobber off the keyboard).
I agree with WR on everything he said about destinations, about taking it slow and easy, and watching for scams too. Get yourself off to Cebu and Davao as well as Manila.
PM me when you are here as I live in Manila. I am always happy to meet any of the ISG brethren. So far 4/4 have turned out to be cool guys so you can be #5.
Good luck[/QUOTE]RK- Man I wish I was there to have seen those 5" heels. I commented to WR that 5" heels sounded very hot; but your added details (glorious and gyrating) definitely helped bring it to life (I laughed out loud when I read your comment about having to wipe the slobber off your keyboard LOL!). I'm a very visual person and have always been a big fan of women in heels they raise and elevate a woman putting her entire body on display! Anyway, you guys are great and I hope your schedules mesh with mine and we'll have a chance to get together in Manila. Years ago when I was traveling in Portugal it was so great to meet someone from my country who could speak English (after days of never speaking to anyone because no one there spoke English); in Manila it would be great to meet some like-minded fellow mongerers who appreciate 5" heels as much as I do!
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I think it is a mistake to regard the Phili girl's acceptance of older men as a "cultural preference" though this is certainly a fantasy that many older men who come here like to have. If you ask a 19 year old Pinay whether she would be interested in a 40 year old Pinoy guy, she will be incredulous (unless of course there is a huge difference in economic position.). What's really going on is that foreign guys are judged by different standards. Whereas her friends and family would be aghast about the idea of her dating a 40 year old Pinoy they can accept that she is going out with a 60 year old foreign guy without question (unless she comes from an upmarket background in which case the acceptable age gap is lowered). So visa, money, treats, staying at decent hotels, going on trips, are all a big part of it, combined with generally better attitudes and in some cases more heallthy and fit physiques (for a given age). If the benefits of western healthcare are not outweighed by the problems of a western diet.
I'm not sayiung that these girls can't have genuine afection and love for older guys, but let'; s not kid ourselves that these are islands on which young females have a mysterious cultural preference for older guys.
On the taller girl's front, unless you develop a preference for ladyboys, the best advice may be to just get over it. There is no geographic enclave of taller pinays. Girls from richer families will on average be taller, but are in general more difficult to find/attract too. The upside is that if you ar just looking for a few girls rather than a constant stream there are so many girls to choose from that you should someone.[/QUOTE]GL—I appreciate being educated by members here who have been there and know first-hand about the culture. Thank you for taking the time to point this out to me and others who may not know better (because I obviously had a different idea in my head). My misperception comes from recently watching an online video published by a wellknown Tour Company (ForeignAffair and its affiliate LoveMe) intended for an audience of American men interesting in finding Asian brides. To their credit they do point out that most relationships do better with closer ages and that success becomes very difficult with any more than a 20 year age difference; consistent with what I had read 20 years early based on statistical marriage data. But aside from pointing out the obvious statistics they're doing a great disservice.
What you say makes complete sense and matches my limited experience chatting with husband seekers online (I'm grateful for your help here). I have only found one Pinay I'm attracted to enough to even consider marrying (and it might be a very different feeling meeting her in person) she is 33 5'5" 99lbs without the typical wide phili nose (we have chatted cam to cam and will continue to chat and I may meet her in Davao). She might look ordinary to most men but there is a certain physical look that works for me and she has it. Anyway, when she mentioned to me that the man she was previously engaged had left her two years ago and married someone else; I asked her if he was foreigner or local man. She told me he was a local man. So I asked her how old he was and she told me he was the same age as her 33 (31 at the time). Of course I was shocked! LOL. This happened since I made my first post to this thread that you are commenting on. Now her answer makes complete sense.
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[QUOTE=Houziwang]The girls will aggressively tempt you into jumping quickly into some type of emotional commitments. That will be one of your biggest challenges, in my view: remaining casual enough to play the field while you are there. Just tell yourself, over and over, that you are not going to make any commitments or reach any grand conclusions during your trip. Leave those for a couple months following your trip - after you've had a chance to clear your head and put the trip in perspective.
Sounds like you've done lots of good prep work. Just my 2 cents: nothing prepares you ...[/QUOTE]Houz—I agree completely. Chatting online with girls they can be equally aggressive in becoming my one and only serious gf. In fact, I routinely say to girls online that there is no way I can honestly become serious (with them online) without meeting in person first; and of course they become very offended because I suspect they don't have very little experience with internet dating or know how different the chemistry can be in person. For those girls who do not lose interest in me after I say that, I also point out that we would have to continue to get acquainted online after I return home to really know if marriage together would really be the right decision for me. So regarding any women that I may meet from online contacts (where marriage is in the back of my mind) I am trying to set an expectation for them that is close to reality. I know I will still likely struggle to not disappoint someone I might feel passionate about on a date and will need to have my wits about me when meeting this kind of girl on my trip. Your points are all well taken though. And thank you.
BTW I am not even necessarily going to find and marry a foreign bride but I am open to the possibility when I look at the available women to date in the states. The best rule for decision making I have ever come across goes something like this: the amount of time required to make a "good" decision should be proportionate to how easily that decision can be reversed or undone. Since I pretty much live by this rule I would not make any hasty decisions regarding marriage. Not to mention the additional complications of integrating a foreign culture into my culture. With a prenup agreement you could view marrying someone so much younger as a 10-year proposition (or longer so long as it's still working for her). My suspicion is that as she becomes Americanized (and I become a very old person relative to her) she is the one who will want to move on to greener pastures first. For this to make sense I should also point out that I don't want any children (this is a puzzling concept to them especially since I currently have no children). I've found the easiest way to explain this is to simply say my sperm are defective; since they seem to believe that I would really be happier if we had children despite my desire not to. To my surprise about 1/2 say this is not a problem if it is God's will and that a good loving relationship would be enough. GL's comment that foreign guys are judged by a different set of standards is clearly at play here.
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Airfares and Hotel Suggestions?
My plan was to fly in mid July but after checking airfares I'm now looking at Sep/Oct timeframe (40% saving; $1500 versus $900 round trip LUX to MNL Jul versus Sep). Any tricks on where to find the best airfares? I've been using the various online reservation search engines and websites and it seems like I'm finding the lowest fairs (but who knows I haven't traveled for 20 years or so and hunting airfare is new to me; maybe I'm missing something?). I notice some websites promote a very low fare LUX to MNL with no ability to check online details. But when you call their toll free number they quickly clarify the cost of the flight for the date searched for on their website is actually much higher then the teaser rate they showed (of course it wasn't a real search engine but you don't know that at first if you're a newbie like me). These types of websites have the highest prices relative to Expedia or Orbitz. Also I noticed the number of hours between departure and final destination arrival can vary significantly for any given round trip airfare price when working through the raw data available on Expedia. Now I see what a good travel agent does to consider all the possibilities to prepare the best possible itinerary for a customer. I'll stick to using Expedia unless someone has a better idea. I'm guessing that if I book now for Sep/Oct time frame I'll get the best flight combinations (to minimize travel time) at the best price since the best combinations surely sell-out first. Am I getting the hang of this or someone has a "go-to" travel agent who always works miracles? Or do any of the foreign airlines provide online booking with specials not carried on Expedia? TIA for any comments or help.
P.S. This post might be helpful to any lurkers out there planning their first trip. Which has me wondering if I should be posting this on a thread other than "Chat Rooms and Pen Pals)? I'm as new to ISG as I am international travel and specifically the Philippines. Seems natural to post here since everyone has been so friendly and helpful. Imagine it makes sense to get hotel near the manila airport since I'll be returning to Manila for my return flight to LAX after visiting Cebu and Davao?
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]BTW I am not even necessarily going to find and marry a foreign bride but I am open to the possibility when I look at the available women to date in the states. The best rule for decision making I have ever come across goes something like this: the amount of time required to make a "good" decision should be proportionate to how easily that decision can be reversed or undone. Since I pretty much live by this rule I would not make any hasty decisions regarding marriage. Not to mention the additional complications of integrating a foreign culture into my culture. With a prenup agreement you could view marrying someone so much younger as a 10-year proposition (or longer so long as it's still working for her). My suspicion is that as she becomes Americanized (and I become a very old person relative to her) she is the one who will want to move on to greener pastures first. For this to make sense I should also point out that I don't want any children (this is a puzzling concept to them especially since I currently have no children). I've found the easiest way to explain this is to simply say my sperm are defective; since they seem to believe that I would really be happier if we had children despite my desire not to. To my surprise about 1/2 say this is not a problem if it is God's will and that a good loving relationship would be enough. GL's comment that foreign guys are judged by a different set of standards is clearly at play here.[/QUOTE]
DOD,
Hmm, seven posts from one member in a row is a bit much, don't you think? lol.
Anyways, you seem to have alot to say. This is my take on your issues from someone who has been where you are now (planning your first trip the PI) and then meeting the girls in person, and on to multiple trips back to visit them. I have a few days to go until my sixth trip in 16 months to the Philippines and now I have narrowed it down to one lovely sexy thin 21yr old, who just might take me off the open market.
First I think you have the right attitude and mindset from the begining. You know what kind of look you prefer in a woman (height, weight, facial features). That goes a long way towards sorting out who is right for you. All you have to do now is go forth and seek those girls out. Simple right? Wrong! lol. Let me explain
First, make sure you clearly tell the girls you meet on the internet what you want. That will help you to narrow down your search some. Granted most girls will just say "yes" to almost anything you tell them if they know you are seriously considering visiting them in person. Just come right out with your plans, and most will be ok as long as you seem sincere and honest.
This is what I did, and while it may not be exactly the path to follow maybe you can learn from my mistakes and hopefully not make the same ones I did.
I started to chat online on the dating websites 6 months before my first trip. I had so many contacts that I could not even remember them all, it was just crazy. I narrowed it down to a handful of girls that were regular chat mates of mine and seemed genuine and eager to meet. I was very honest with them, and I told them I was looking for a serious relationship but that I was also going to meet other girls on my trip. All were ok with it, and most were just happy that we were going to meet.
I made several mistakes on that first trip, the first being do not under any circumstances let the girl you are currently with know who you have seen before and who you are going to see after her. Most girls will tell you they do not care, be careful. Google "tampo" if you want to know more. Never give them a look at your Yahoo or Hotmail contact list. They can and will memorize the other girls ID's and they will start problems for you. I did that and I was very sorry. I thought I was being honest and adult about everything so no need for anyone to get upset. Wrong! If you meet 6 girls and if they think they have a shot at marriage they will try everything and anything to hurt you if you reject them or tell them you have chosen someone else. Its a bad scene and you do not want to go there, trust me. This also holds true for your cell phone. Never give the girls access to it or you will be sorry. All you need to tell them is this phrase, "Collect, Collect, Collect, then Select". It means you are not serious now, and you plan on making your choice at a later date. The locals all know it, and most girls know it too.
Go to the Philippines and have a good time. The girls are warm, genuine GFE for the most part and if you are lucky you might get some PSE from a few of the regular girls. Just treat them right and they will treat you like a King. Treat them badly and you better run or not return to your favorite Hotel again. They will hound you every time you come into there city. I met a girl my first trip that I stayed with for 8 days until I sent her home so I could meet someone else, and since the second girl was perfect for me I dropped the first girl. She has caused many problems for my new GF and I, so I would be very careful about what info you spread around until you are certain you want to get serious with one of the girls.
Once you have found the right one for you, make sure she knows what she is getting herself into. Make sure she knows your standard of living, because to all the people in the Philippines we are millionaires and drive big fancy cars and the streets are paved with gold. Show her pictures of your house-apartment-mansion-condo-cardboard box that you call home. Also make her aware if you live in a cold-weather part of the World. Nothing says get me the heck out of here and back to the sunny Philippines faster than getting off the plane in "Frozen Snot Alaska" when its -20.
I think since you have a certain girl in mind, meaning a taller than average woman for the PI, and a thin slimmer woman with then maybe the PI is not the right place for you. Most PI woman are average to thinner bodies but most are very short. Think around 5foot even, and 5'3 with heels. Unless they are 5 inch BDSM heels, then all bets are off. *wink*
My advice to you would be to look over the pictures posted of the women from some of the Asian countires. Thailand and China should be at the top of your list mainly because there are lots of available taller women with slim builds that better suit your needs. The taller thinner women in the Philippines are often snatched up real quick by foreign guys, or they are sent off to angeles city to go make money. That is not to say you can't find them, because I sure did. It just takes time on the ground to figure things out for yourself.
Let us know how it all worked out.
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Met this one on DIA and she was pretty much ready to come to where ever I was with no hesitation. I am in cebu city right now, just arrived today. We're chatting away and then she says that she's been to the hotel where I'm staying. She asks if I want to see the American she met there before, I declined but it was too late. It was picture after picture of this older guy just pounding the shit out of her. Pretty funny stuff. Here's her DIA profile. Anyone know her?
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]GL—I appreciate being educated by members here who have been there and know first-hand about the culture. Thank you for taking the time to point this out to me and others who may not know better (because I obviously had a different idea in my head). My misperception comes from recently watching an online video published by a wellknown Tour Company (ForeignAffair and its affiliate LoveMe) intended for an audience of American men interesting in finding Asian brides. To their credit they do point out that most relationships do better with closer ages and that success becomes very difficult with any more than a 20 year age difference; consistent with what I had read 20 years early based on statistical marriage data. But aside from pointing out the obvious statistics they're doing a great disservice.
What you say makes complete sense and matches my limited experience chatting with husband seekers online (I'm grateful for your help here). I have only found one Pinay I'm attracted to enough to even consider marrying (and it might be a very different feeling meeting her in person) she is 33 5'5" 99lbs without the typical wide phili nose (we have chatted cam to cam and will continue to chat and I may meet her in Davao). She might look ordinary to most men but there is a certain physical look that works for me and she has it. Anyway, when she mentioned to me that the man she was previously engaged had left her two years ago and married someone else; I asked her if he was foreigner or local man. She told me he was a local man. So I asked her how old he was and she told me he was the same age as her 33 (31 at the time). Of course I was shocked! LOL. This happened since I made my first post to this thread that you are commenting on. Now her answer makes complete sense.[/QUOTE]
As someone else said, if you are really hung up about taller girls then China and especially northern China is probably a better hunting ground. Dalian and the nearby Qingtao are noted for cute and relatively tall girls. My guess on average 1 or 2 inches taller than in the Phils. What does that mean: if you have a minimum height requirement of say 5ft 6in, my guess is that only 3% of Phil girls will qualify whereas in Dalian maybe 12% would pass muster.
The downside with Chinese girls is that (1) they will only tolerate say a 15-20 year age gap max. If you are looking and tall slim and good looking girls you may struggle as in China the whole country is very height conscious and tall girls are highly prized, so you would have plenty of local competition. The upside to Chinese girls (and I have lived with 3) is that they are much more academic and hard working so if you are looking for brains ans well as beauty they are an option. Of course English is a real issue and you are de facto fishing from a 10% pool of relatively educated girls who speak reasonable English whereas in the Phils maybe 40% of the girls speak enough English to contemplate marrying. In China you are not going to be marrying into a large and expensive family.
Although the Philippines is not home to the prettiest girls in Asia in my view ,(I would say Vietnam wins there) the demand/supply situation is such that it should be possible for a reasonable 50s/60s Western guy to end up with a really attractive say 25-30 year old. Though in practice many of the girls that such guys actually do pick are regarded as "exotica" (ie really not so attractive) by Filipinos and old Phils hands alike. If you can lower your height expectations to say 5ft 4in the pool you would be fishing from would be say 15% of girls of that age and your chances of getting one with the right looks/personality attitude/education/background/morals etc are MUCH higher. Ultimately in my view these characteristics are MUCH more important than a couple of inches height.
From the quality of your writing, I would say that you need to concentrate almost exclusively on graduates/ college students. A sexy high school grad can be fun for a few days maybe a month, but eventually you will get bored with her and if you did marry her she would probably have limited employment options back home.
If i were looking for a wife in the Phils I would probably kick off in the big cities of Mindanao such as Davao, CDO. This is because though Mindanao has maybe 30% of the population it gets maybe 5% of the foreign visitors. This is bad news if you want easy sex as the girls are more conservative but better news if you are hunting for a wife who hasnt become jaded by exposure to loads of foreign guys.
Personally I would also insist on girls who were either bisexual or at least open to threesomes with other girls, as who wants to be limited to one girl of have to cheat and sneak ones way through life.
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]My plan was to fly in mid July but after checking airfares I'm now looking at Sep/Oct timeframe (40% saving; $1500 versus $900 round trip LUX to MNL Jul versus Sep). Any tricks on where to find the best airfares? I've been using the various online reservation search engines and websites and it seems like I'm finding the lowest fairs (but who knows I haven't traveled for 20 years or so and hunting airfare is new to me; maybe I'm missing something?). I notice some websites promote a very low fare LUX to MNL with no ability to check online details. But when you call their toll free number they quickly clarify the cost of the flight for the date searched for on their website is actually much higher then the teaser rate they showed (of course it wasn't a real search engine but you don't know that at first if you're a newbie like me). These types of websites have the highest prices relative to Expedia or Orbitz. Also I noticed the number of hours between departure and final destination arrival can vary significantly for any given round trip airfare price when working through the raw data available on Expedia. Now I see what a good travel agent does to consider all the possibilities to prepare the best possible itinerary for a customer. I'll stick to using Expedia unless someone has a better idea. I'm guessing that if I book now for Sep/Oct time frame I'll get the best flight combinations (to minimize travel time) at the best price since the best combinations surely sell-out first. Am I getting the hang of this or someone has a "go-to" travel agent who always works miracles? Or do any of the foreign airlines provide online booking with specials not carried on Expedia? TIA for any comments or help.
P.S. This post might be helpful to any lurkers out there planning their first trip. Which has me wondering if I should be posting this on a thread other than "Chat Rooms and Pen Pals)? I'm as new to ISG as I am international travel and specifically the Philippines. Seems natural to post here since everyone has been so friendly and helpful. Imagine it makes sense to get hotel near the manila airport since I'll be returning to Manila for my return flight to LAX after visiting Cebu and Davao?[/QUOTE]
For that time frame check Hawaiian Air. You should be able to book round trip under $900.
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]My plan was to fly in mid July but after checking airfares I'm now looking at Sep/Oct timeframe (40% saving; $1500 versus $900 round trip LUX to MNL Jul versus Sep). Any tricks on where to find the best airfares? I've been using the various online reservation search engines and websites and it seems like I'm finding the lowest fairs (but who knows I haven't traveled for 20 years or so and hunting airfare is new to me; maybe I'm missing something?). I notice some websites promote a very low fare LUX to MNL with no ability to check online details. But when you call their toll free number they quickly clarify the cost of the flight for the date searched for on their website is actually much higher then the teaser rate they showed (of course it wasn't a real search engine but you don't know that at first if you're a newbie like me). These types of websites have the highest prices relative to Expedia or Orbitz. Also I noticed the number of hours between departure and final destination arrival can vary significantly for any given round trip airfare price when working through the raw data available on Expedia. Now I see what a good travel agent does to consider all the possibilities to prepare the best possible itinerary for a customer. I'll stick to using Expedia unless someone has a better idea. I'm guessing that if I book now for Sep/Oct time frame I'll get the best flight combinations (to minimize travel time) at the best price since the best combinations surely sell-out first. Am I getting the hang of this or someone has a "go-to" travel agent who always works miracles? Or do any of the foreign airlines provide online booking with specials not carried on Expedia? TIA for any comments or help.
P.S. This post might be helpful to any lurkers out there planning their first trip. Which has me wondering if I should be posting this on a thread other than "Chat Rooms and Pen Pals)? I'm as new to ISG as I am international travel and specifically the Philippines. Seems natural to post here since everyone has been so friendly and helpful. Imagine it makes sense to get hotel near the manila airport since I'll be returning to Manila for my return flight to LAX after visiting Cebu and Davao?[/QUOTE]
You should be aware that the rainy season runs from about June to October. That said I quit like the Phils in the rainy season. generally it doesnt rain all the days or all the time and the weather is a bit cooler.
Personally I'm not keen on Manila , poluted expensive dirty and would head straight for Angeles where you can find decent value hotels and meet up with a load of like minded guys to get your feet. Personally I'm not a big fan of the bar scene and if you are semi interested in a serious relationship you should probably head south. I'm not sure how long your trip will last or whether your sole focus will be as many girls as possible. If you want to mix sexy fun with beautiful scenery consider a trip to Palawan and visit Honda Bay and El Nido. Open minded girls are a bit thin on the ground in Palawan especially if you are fussy re height, if you are not i have a number of good contacts so you may wish to BYOB. but the pics/experience you will get if you have a beautiful girl sitting on an outrigger as you pass through the islands of El Nido are of a completely different order than in say Cebu or Davao. Of course for many guys that's irrelevant, they have 6 months of spunk backed up and just want to root as many chicks as possible.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]As someone else said, if you are really hung up about taller girls then China and especially northern China is probably a better hunting ground. Dalian and the nearby Qingtao are noted for cute and relatively tall girls. My guess on average 1 or 2 inches taller than in the Phils. What does that mean: if you have a minimum height requirement of say 5ft 6in, my guess is that only 3% of Phil girls will qualify whereas in Dalian maybe 12% would pass muster.
The downside with Chinese girls is that (1) they will only tolerate say a 15-20 year age gap max. If you are looking and tall slim and good looking girls you may struggle as in China the whole country is very height conscious and tall girls are highly prized, so you would have plenty of local competition. The upside to Chinese girls (and I have lived with 3) is that they are much more academic and hard working so if you are looking for brains ans well as beauty they are an option. Of course English is a real issue and you are de facto fishing from a 10% pool of relatively educated girls who speak reasonable English whereas in the Phils maybe 40% of the girls speak enough English to contemplate marrying. In China you are not going to be marrying into a large and expensive family.
Although the Philippines is not home to the prettiest girls in Asia in my view ,(I would say Vietnam wins there) the demand/supply situation is such that it should be possible for a reasonable 50s/60s Western guy to end up with a really attractive say 25-30 year old. Though in practice many of the girls that such guys actually do pick are regarded as "exotica" (ie really not so attractive) by Filipinos and old Phils hands alike. If you can lower your height expectations to say 5ft 4in the pool you would be fishing from would be say 15% of girls of that age and your chances of getting one with the right looks/personality attitude/education/background/morals etc are MUCH higher. Ultimately in my view these characteristics are MUCH more important than a couple of inches height.
From the quality of your writing, I would say that you need to concentrate almost exclusively on graduates/ college students. A sexy high school grad can be fun for a few days maybe a month, but eventually you will get bored with her and if you did marry her she would probably have limited employment options back home.
If i were looking for a wife in the Phils I would probably kick off in the big cities of Mindanao such as Davao, CDO. This is because though Mindanao has maybe 30% of the population it gets maybe 5% of the foreign visitors. This is bad news if you want easy sex as the girls are more conservative but better news if you are hunting for a wife who hasnt become jaded by exposure to loads of foreign guys.
Personally I would also insist on girls who were either bisexual or at least open to threesomes with other girls, as who wants to be limited to one girl of have to cheat and sneak ones way through life.[/QUOTE]Greg, your posts are always filled with so much relevant information you have me back-pedaling now and double-checking my decisions. Thanks again. I've not yet booked my flight so I want to quickly consider northern China now (given my height preference) if for no other reason to make sure I have no regrets following through with my plans for Philippines. Would I have as much fun looking for the right girl in Dalian as I would in Manilla/Cebu/Davao? I'm attracted to the low expense of vacationing in Philippines along with the high degree of local mongering action should I not find my girl (could I expect a similar experience in Dalian)? Aside from finding a girl to possibly marry (yes tall and educated counts for marriage) I am also looking for an overdue and relaxing vacation filled with ample poon regardless of my success finding my one in a million. I'm not looking for free sex nor the professionals but rather the GFE offering gifts for overnight company, sex and companionship. I'm a business owner recovering from a hard hit economy so overall total trip cost matters (as much as I would probably want to pay for a professional 10 at some point during my travels I'd probably resist the temptation to save some coin).
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[QUOTE=Blackangst]For that time frame check Hawaiian Air. You should be able to book round trip under $900.[/QUOTE]Best I can find on HA right from their website is $928 SanDiego/Manila. That's about $30 more than Expedia search (but haven't checked Expedia search lately and fares seem to change all the time and could be higher now). Thanks for the reference. Nice to have some airlines to check with directly.
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Need Advice. Who uses the term "tour guide" when talking with a lady, or do you say "romantic touring" or "lover and tour guide".
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[QUOTE=Doingourdutyreason to make sure I have no regrets following through with my plans for Philippines. Would I have as much fun looking for the right girl in Dalian as I would in Manilla/Cebu/Davao? QUOTE]Philippines Philippines Philippines! Theres no contest, unless your Mandarin is seriously fluent. Chinese women can be warm and engaging but will never ever equal the "loving feeling" that a cute Filipina can provide.
Chinese women can be wary and aloof of a horny guy and need a few dates (I lived in China for 4 years) to get warm and friendly. Filipinas. Have a higher hormone (horniness!) content it seems.
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I've not yet booked my flight so I want to quickly consider northern China now (given my height preference) if for no other reason to make sure I have no regrets following through with my plans for Philippines. Would I have as much fun looking for the right girl in Dalian as I would in Manilla/Cebu/Davao? I'm attracted to the low expense of vacationing in Philippines along with the high degree of local mongering action should I not find my girl (could I expect a similar experience in Dalian)? Aside from finding a girl to possibly marry (yes tall and educated counts for marriage) I am also looking for an overdue and relaxing vacation filled with ample poon regardless of my success finding my one in a million. I'm not looking for free sex nor the professionals but rather the GFE offering gifts for overnight company, sex and companionship. I'm a business owner recovering from a hard hit economy so overall total trip cost matters (as much as I would probably want to pay for a professional 10 at some point during my travels I'd probably resist the temptation to save some coin).[/QUOTE]
With all due respect DYD I think you are over-organising your trip.
Just decide on 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 places to go. You can never know who or what you will find, so just relax and wait for it to happen.
And DONT even mention you are looking for a wife to ANYONE until you find her.
You may well sit next to your future wife on the plane as you fly over here and then all your plans will come to nothing because you will change them anyway so you can be with HER.
There are tall slim desirable girls EVERYWHERE in the world - the detailed internal debates that you are having in your mind in advance will cause so much stress for you that you will end up needing your holiday to recover from your pre-planning.
Sorry about the CAPS but I am trying to yell at you LOL.
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]Best I can find on HA right from their website is $928 SanDiego/Manila. That's about $30 more than Expedia search (but haven't checked Expedia search lately and fares seem to change all the time and could be higher now). Thanks for the reference. Nice to have some airlines to check with directly.[/QUOTE]
Ah ok..prices may have gone up a bit. The thing about Hawaiian...no overseas layovers. Your layover is in Honolulu, and then direct from there to Manila. I prefer this as opposed to say Singapore or Hong Kong. Also make sure and look at the monthly view when requesting quotes...the day before or after may save you some $$$.
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[quote=doingourduty]greg, your posts are always filled with so much relevant information you have me back-pedaling now and double-checking my decisions. thanks again. i've not yet booked my flight so i want to quickly consider northern china now (given my height preference) if for no other reason to make sure i have no regrets following through with my plans for philippines. would i have as much fun looking for the right girl in dalian as i would in manilla/cebu/davao? i'm attracted to the low expense of vacationing in philippines along with the high degree of local mongering action should i not find my girl (could i expect a similar experience in dalian)? aside from finding a girl to possibly marry (yes tall and educated counts for marriage) i am also looking for an overdue and relaxing vacation filled with ample poon regardless of my success finding my one in a million. i'm not looking for free sex nor the professionals but rather the gfe offering gifts for overnight company, sex and companionship. i'm a business owner recovering from a hard hit economy so overall total trip cost matters (as much as i would probably want to pay for a professional 10 at some point during my travels i'd probably resist the temptation to save some coin).[/quote]
given your stated objectives go to the phils. it would be crazy to go to dalian instead just because the girls are an inch or two taller on average. the p4p scene in china is overpriced and poor quality compared with elsewhere in asia. china is excellent hunting grounds for 30s40s guys looking for romantic adventures but requires some level of attractiveness and skill. all you need in phils is a heart beat and you should be fine.
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1 plan your itinerary according to where you want to go and then look for girls in those areas rather than rep001ter gunning dia and spending all your time flying around the phils meeting particular girls.
2 if you are looking for scenery beaches etc and not just an endless series of girls include places such as palawan, dumaguete/apo island/ bohol, malapascua, banaue (rice terraces), boracay in your plans as well as the big cities. in general its more difficult to find "open minded girls " in such places so unless you find some on dia or tagged (better for remote places) figure on bringing a girl from one of the population centres.
3 many girls will be delighted to come on free holidays to such places often it will be their first holiday they have taken ever.
4 rk is right you can overplan these things however those of us living /hanging out in the phils should remember a how many pitfalls a newbie asian traveller can make so asking lots of questions is actually pretty smart and b for those stuck in the sexual jail of us/eu/oz/nz actually planning these things and chatting to endless girls on dia is a big part of the pleasure of the whole thing. we cant all be on endless jollies kicking around asia, somebody has to be working to keep the lights on back home
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1 plan your itinerary according to where you want to go and then look for girls in those areas rather than rep001ter gunning dia and spending all your time flying around the phils meeting particular girls.
2 if you are looking for scenery beaches etc and not just an endless series of girls include places such as palawan, dumaguete/apo island/ bohol, malapascua, banaue (rice terraces), boracay in your plans as well as the big cities.................
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re 1. i agree. pick 2 or 3 places (not ac if you want a wife) and just scout around.
re 2. travel is not that easy in the philippines and is frequently time-consuming. i have been working from north to south for 13 years here and it becomes very tiring especially if you have to fend for yourself (i dont as i have drivers waiting for me).
a trip to banaue (rice terraces) will take you a full day or a day and a half if you stay over. even with a simple manila to cebu trip it will take 4 - 5 hours out of your day hotel to hotel as you have to add on around 2 hours at the beginning to ensure that you get to the airport through the traffic and into the terminal with security checks. 1.25 hr for the flight and another 3/4 hr travel at the other end.
i am just giving you advance warning. remember that it is a relatively undeveloped country and the further away from the big cities then the more rustic the facilities and infrastructure becomes.
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[QUOTE=Julian W]Need Advice. Who uses the term "tour guide" when talking with a lady, or do you say "romantic touring" or "lover and tour guide".[/QUOTE]
Many girls would love the idea of being a "tour guide" as it implies a free trip and probably some payment. The difficulty is that using that term leads the question of sex open, and you really dont want someone on the pay roll who is not providing the required services. In terms of being a real tour guide, most of the girls will be pretty useless as few have travelled extensively, most will not appreciate the types of places westerners will want to go to and stay in.
"girl friend" implies too much in the phils - meet the parents and fairly serious. Probably "special companion" is what you are looking for and if she asks what that is say someone who can accompany you on your travels, sleep together and whatever else you are looking for
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]With all due respect DYD I think you are over-organising your trip.
Just decide on 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 places to go. You can never know who or what you will find, so just relax and wait for it to happen.
And DONT even mention you are looking for a wife to ANYONE until you find her.
You may well sit next to your future wife on the plane as you fly over here and then all your plans will come to nothing because you will change them anyway so you can be with HER.
There are tall slim desirable girls EVERYWHERE in the world - the detailed internal debates that you are having in your mind in advance will cause so much stress for you that you will end up needing your holiday to recover from your pre-planning.
Sorry about the CAPS but I am trying to yell at you LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL OK RK
Your point is well taken. In fact I will do exactly what you've suggested by the time I touch down in Manila to start my adventure (even without your warning). Meaning I will visit some major cities but also have some out of the way scenic locations in mind to visit with an appropriate companion (should I meet one who speaks good enough English and looks especially good to me) and I want to be flexible on the ground since I expect my plans could easily change depending on circumstances (I. E. The woman sitting next to me on the flight over; that would be nice). I should point out that after I made the post you're commenting, I pretty quickly got back on track to follow through with my original plans for the reasons you mention (and the fact that the Philippines appear to be the best value for my travel dollar everything taken into account).
I agree it's not wise to mention anything about wife shopping, but I will have one or maybe two meetings with women I have met on DIA/CB who I have been cam to cam recently. In those cases both are very aware I'm coming to Philippines to meet as many women as possible and that even if we have a great date together I will make no decisions about becoming serious until after I return home. And after I return home it may take me several months to sort out my experiences and get back to them (and only then would it be possible for a serious relationship to begin online with no guarantees of a positive outcome). They seem ok with that. Eventually I'll report back here whether it was wise or not.
I would be stressed if I didn't think through the possibilities before I book my flight and make my plans; my plans on the ground will be simple and open ended to provide lots of flexibility. My internal debate will conclude with a simple plan. If you still think I'm missing your point or making a mistake please comment again. I appreciate your experience and insight because I'm very obviously the *FNG here excited about making his first trip to your neck of the woods.
*FNG = Fucking New Guy
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I am just giving you advance warning. Remember that it is a relatively undeveloped country and the further away from the big cities then the more rustic the facilities and infrastructure becomes.[/QUOTE]And don't plan your schedule back to back.
Like the time I flew to a far away island, and the travel was fun, at below pressurised level, in a BN - 2, and upon arriving in a 400 meter strip, when I asked the pilot if my return in two days is confirmed, he said something which I didn't understand. And later it turned out there had been a storm warning, and the flight didn't reach me until 4 days later - either the flight or risking a 24 hour ferry ride back to civilisation.
Ever since then, I don't plan anything back to back, even within Manila, as hours of delays are not very uncommon.
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[quote=greglondon]given your stated objectives go to the phils. it would be crazy to go to dalian instead just because the girls are an inch or two taller on average. the p4p scene in china is overpriced and poor quality compared with elsewhere in asia. china is excellent hunting grounds for 30s40s guys looking for romantic adventures but requires some level of attractiveness and skill. all you need in phils is a heart beat and you should be fine.
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1 plan your itinerary according to where you want to go and then look for girls in those areas rather than rep001ter gunning dia and spending all your time flying around the phils meeting particular girls.
2 if you are looking for scenery beaches etc and not just an endless series of girls include places such as palawan, dumaguete/apo island/ bohol, malapascua, banaue (rice terraces), boracay in your plans as well as the big cities. in general its more difficult to find "open minded girls " in such places so unless you find some on dia or tagged (better for remote places) figure on bringing a girl from one of the population centres.
3 many girls will be delighted to come on free holidays to such places often it will be their first holiday they have taken ever.
4 rk is right you can overplan these things however those of us living /hanging out in the phils should remember a how many pitfalls a newbie asian traveller can make so asking lots of questions is actually pretty smart and b for those stuck in the sexual jail of us/eu/oz/nz actually planning these things and chatting to endless girls on dia is a big part of the pleasure of the whole thing. we can't all be on endless jollies kicking around asia, somebody has to be working to keep the lights on back home[/quote]gl,
thanks again for all your help. i actually decided against china after reading the isg china threads although i realize now that i find (in general) the facial appearance of chinese girls more attractive than philippinos (in addition to the height difference discussed here earlier). i notice many of the available china dolls 35 to 40 do not want men older than 45 or 50 so i get your point about hunting ground for 30s40s guys leaves me out. btw can you explain what happens to the faces of phili women as they get older; seems like their faces get puffy or bloated? i'm not meaning to be crude because i have a lot of respect for the philippine people, their culture and their women. is it something in their diet? or the result of just living a hard life in a hot humid climate with a lot of stress?
i especially like #3 (and ideas in #2) if i meet someone of interest in the major city (or less likely one of my dia contacts). regarding dia; i am a single man running a small business by myself living alone and just burnt-out with the local dating scene. so your insight is spot-on because i do feel as if i am in a sexual prison (and i would add an emotional/intimacy prison as well when it comes to companionship with the opposite sex) although i am single and free to date anyone i want in the states. so you're exactly right that part of the fun is to hunt on dia. but i want to clarify that i'm in no way planning my trip around meeting a bunch of pre-arranged contacts with women from the dating sites (i think that would be crazy although i may scan dia on location when there are no other options). there's no substitute for being on the ground and meeting women for the first time in person face to face to know my interest. i have looked at hundreds of profiles online and chatted with hundreds of girls; and from all that there is one girl i talk to once a week who looks very good to me and i will look forward to taking her out on a date. do i think i will have the same feelings about her after i meet her in person? i have no idea. if i had to guess not better than a 50/50 chance so it could certainly be a waste of time but it sure feels good right now.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Re 1. I agree. Pick 2 or 3 places (not AC if you want a wife) and just scout around.
Re 2. Travel is not that easy in the Philippines and is frequently time-consuming.
Even with a simple Manila to Cebu trip it will take 4 - 5 hours out of your day hotel to hotel as you have to add on around 2 hours at the beginning to ensure that you get to the airport through the traffic and into the terminal with security checks. 1.25 hr for the flight and another 3/4 hr travel at the other end.
I am just giving you advance warning. Remember that it is a relatively undeveloped country and the further away from the big cities then the more rustic the facilities and infrastructure becomes.[/QUOTE]
Even the planes can be very lte and some not go at all as I found out a while back which meant a 9 hour bus ride to Manila....2 of those stuck in the Manila suburbs trying to get to Cubao and Pasay...so allow lots of time and dont go to many places.
Utlrapilot (a good mate) sticks to one place and while not wife seeking he has lots of fun....but he has issues with girls not turning up so RTFF and you will plenty advise about Plan A, B C...etc
Try not to fall in love with the first girl or second or tenth :D please take your time, see if they ask for cash immediately or gifts or drag you to the mall or bring all the family to feed at your expense (all these have happen to many of us at some time or another). As GL sad, meeting family means more significance to them and the girl will lose tons of face if after that meeting you are a dog and dump her...so try not to do that - have a heart.
Everyone will want to be your wife ....... you are western and are a chance out of poverty...and it is real poverty for some girls on DIA ...so anyone will do despite the man being an ignorant useless fat pig...he is western lives in teh west there he must be richer than the girl...QED
Good hunting and good luck. You find the guys on this Board full of useful tips so please heed some of them..well we all sometimes think with our smaller head :)
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[QUOTE=Rumpshaker1]Met this one on DIA and she was pretty much ready to come to where ever I was with no hesitation. I am in cebu city right now, just arrived today. We're chatting away and then she says that she's been to the hotel where I'm staying. She asks if I want to see the American she met there before, I declined but it was too late. It was picture after picture of this older guy just pounding the shit out of her. Pretty funny stuff. Here's her DIA profile. Anyone know her?
Pathrixiah[/QUOTE]Nah but I've known many like her. She's just up the street from me in Olongapo according to her profile so I could go try her out for ya? hehehe i jest.
In regards to the pics, kinda cools your ardour when you see what they have been spreading their legs for prior to you huh?
I met a very pretty super cute innocent looking very young little girl from Dipolog who was keen. Very easy to talk to. Started showing me pics on her cell phone of her 'Chinese businessman' previous BF. Some really ancient ugly old asian guy.. I'm like ah no thanks love, seen enuff ok?
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Very true WR, try to avoid falling in love with the girls.
Its so easy and many guys have in the past and will in the future.
Happened to me also on one of my early visits in the 90ties.
Since attached in Europe I always travel to the Phils with a heart of stone to avoid falling for all the beauties and just enjoy them with a great smile on my face every hour I am with them.
A distant friend of mine told me about his friends that had been to Thailand and the Phils. It was one evening sitting under the midnight sun with some moonshine at the summerhouse and he shared with me that "all" his friends had been lured by the ladies as in making the guys fall in love with them, causing them to send money and support them after having visited the countries for a week or two. Stupid is as stupid does, but I guess many are not really prepared of what they are getting into.
So - @doingourduty; It is too easy to fall in love with a low-voiced sweet talking, beautiful lady, and in an instant you dont know what hit you except that you find that you are in love.
BTW, I have a pinay female friend that is 5'10 he he he... married and well off now I have to add. But they are out there.
Cant wait to be back, but no schedule as of now.
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The Age question
[QUOTE=Doingourduty]GL,
Thanks again for all your help. I actually decided against China after reading the ISG China threads although I realize now that I find (in general) the facial appearance of Chinese girls more attractive than Philippinos (in addition to the height difference discussed here earlier). I notice many of the available China dolls 35 to 40 do not want men older than 45 or 50 so I get your point about hunting ground for 30s40s guys leaves me out. BTW can you explain what happens to the faces of phili women as they get older; seems like their faces get puffy or bloated? I'm not meaning to be crude because I have a lot of respect for the Philippine people, their culture and their women. Is it something in their diet? Or the result of just living a hard life in a hot humid climate with a lot of stress?
I especially like #3 (and ideas in #2) if I meet someone of interest in the major city (or less likely one of my DIA contacts). Regarding DIA; I am a single man running a small business by myself living alone and just burnt-out with the local dating scene. So your insight is spot-on because I do feel as if I am in a sexual prison (and I would add an emotional/intimacy prison as well when it comes to companionship with the opposite sex) although I am single and free to date anyone I want in the States. So you're exactly right that part of the fun is to hunt on DIA. But I want to clarify that I'm in no way planning my trip around meeting a bunch of pre-arranged contacts with women from the dating sites (I think that would be crazy although I may scan DIA on location when there are no other options). There's no substitute for being on the ground and meeting women for the first time in person face to face to know my interest. I have looked at hundreds of profiles online and chatted with hundreds of girls; and from all that there is one girl I talk to once a week who looks very good to me and I will look forward to taking her out on a date. Do I think I will have the same feelings about her after I meet her in person? I have no idea. If I had to guess not better than a 50/50 chance so it could certainly be a waste of time but it sure feels good right now.[/QUOTE]
There is a well known rule of thumb that the "socially acceptable" age difference is Male age/2 + 7 . ie if you are say 60 then its socially acceptable to be with a girl aged 37 and up. I would say that in China this rule applies (and remember that in China Westerners are interfacing primarily with the relatively wealthy/educated middle classes rather than the peasant girls with 2 or 3 words of English. But Chinese girl in a Westerner/Chinese relationship are more comfortable being at eh young extreme end of this rule than most Western girls.
Probably the number 1 attraction of the Philippines, even more than Jollybees is that apart from the elite rich girls more than this below this.
However I'm not sure that what works in the Philippines will necessarily work if you take her home. I think the 60 year old guys who marry a 19 year old beauty and take her back to the US are running a considerable risk that the relationship will break down as she attracts many much younger guys in the US, but that is speculation on my part.
In terms of the average looks of Philipina I would agree that the average Filipina is not as pretty as the average SEA girl - there are alot of plain girls in China and Japan too when you get there but the ones you see in magazines/TV etc are often very cute. However the good thing about the Phils is that half decent guys dont really need to settle for "average" here and amongst the say top 10% there are some really pretty and available girls.
I tend to agree that many Filipinas dont age so well. The diet here is not very healthy. Many Filipinas are slim mainly because they just cant afford so much junk food, but if you take them to the US they easily put on weight.
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[QUOTE=Rumpshaker1]Met this one on DIA and she was pretty much ready to come to where ever I was with no hesitation. I am in cebu city right now, just arrived today. We're chatting away and then she says that she's been to the hotel where I'm staying. She asks if I want to see the American she met there before, I declined but it was too late. It was picture after picture of this older guy just pounding the shit out of her. Pretty funny stuff. Here's her DIA profile. Anyone know her?
Pathrixiah[/QUOTE]
Hey, I looked her up and I just chatted with her. She let me see her cam. Uh, I'm pretty sure that's a man. If she isn't a man now, she was born one. The one in the cam did not match up real well with the pics she sent me either. She differs from the woman in the pics in the following respect: She looks like a man. :)
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undecided
[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]Hey, I looked her up and I just chatted with her. She let me see her cam. Uh, I'm pretty sure that's a man. If she isn't a man now, she was born one. The one in the cam did not match up real well with the pics she sent me either. She differs from the woman in the pics in the following respect: She looks like a man. :)[/QUOTE]
Having "undecided" or "no" for do you want kids is usually a leading indicator
plus all the stuff about pics being misleading
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Having "undecided" or "no" for do you want kids is usually a leading indicator
plus all the stuff about pics being misleading[/QUOTE]
Actually his profile pic is probably him, but just made up really well. The rest were someone else.
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I have a DIA question from a DIA newbie.
I'm not getting much hits on my profile. I would send out 10 messages and only 2 would look ay my profile (and one would reply). I don't think it's the profile (which looks normal and has a decent photo) because people aren't even seeing it.
My opening msg would say "Hi there, would you like to be friends?" Is this message bad? What do you guys usually say as the first message? Or is my dismal response rate typical on DIA?
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Dia Responses
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]I have a DIA question from a DIA newbie.
I'm not getting much hits on my profile. I would send out 10 messages and only 2 would look ay my profile (and one would reply). I don't think it's the profile (which looks normal and has a decent photo) because people aren't even seeing it.
My opening msg would say "Hi there, would you like to be friends?" Is this message bad? What do you guys usually say as the first message? Or is my dismal response rate typical on DIA?[/QUOTE]A 10% interest response on DIA really sucks, so you are doing something wrong FF. It could be in your choice of name or headline (quite possible as many girls don't seem to actually read an entire profile.)
Did you state that you are planning a visit (soon) to P.I. ? How about
"Seriously looking for a girlfriend" as opposed to "Wishing to shag everyone I can lay my hands on" ?
Usually the response rate will be in excess of 75%. Often it is enough to simply log on to the site and they should be contacting you in significant numbers.
However, it is fair to say that prejudice does exist among filipinas.
Most will shy away from Arabs, East Indians, and very dark skin is
often viewed as less than desirable.
To sum up: Appealing header, friendly looking photo and innocuous
profile banter should do the trick. It's like fishing.... If they ain't biting,
change the bait !
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend]I have a DIA question from a DIA newbie.
I'm not getting much hits on my profile. I would send out 10 messages and only 2 would look ay my profile (and one would reply). I don't think it's the profile (which looks normal and has a decent photo) because people aren't even seeing it.
My opening msg would say "Hi there, would you like to be friends?" Is this message bad? What do you guys usually say as the first message? Or is my dismal response rate typical on DIA?[/QUOTE]Ff I'm a newbie here too but in the past 6 weeks I've learned a great deal about the dating sites. First I joined International Cupid for 30 days. When that membership expired I decided to focus on Asian girls and joined both DIA and CB (had to pay for CB but DIA is free). In a little more than two weeks I have received over 1000 emails on CB (for the most part unsolicited by me and many of the girls email more than once hoping to get a reply; so so there are probably 500+ women responding so far). Meanwhile, DIA generates far fewer emails. Because DIA does not offer a chat window, I have sometimes used the email there to chat back and forth with a girl if she happens to be online. I also notice that I will get emails on DIA after I have opened profiles of the more attractive women (they see I have looked at their profile and then send email showing interest and this happens very quickly on CB too). So the more profiles you open on DIA the more mail you get. I have also sent a small number of emails and eventually chatted cam to cam with many women from both sites using yahoo messenger. I don't think it matters too much what you write in your profile. If you say you're "serious" be careful because that's code word for "I want you to be my wife".
OFF-TOPIC to your question but related...
There are several reasons to use these sites. But if you're interested in a serious relationship it's better to just plan a trip to the Philippines and meet girls face to face. If you're just looking for some booty it's still better to just plan a trip to Philippines and not use CB and DIA until you're on the ground and you may not need the internet to scout local girls. I'm planning my first trip now so I know much less about how useful CB and DIA may be when there. I'm going for a vacation with the purpose of getting some booty but also looking for possible long-term relationship wife. I will be the first to tell you that I don't think the success of my upcoming trip is improved any by meeting girls beforehand on CB and DIA.
I've met one girl that I cam to cam with once a week now from online personals (met on DIA) and it is very interesting to learn about her life. I will meet her in person when I visit Philippines but I am realistic and not serious about her unless good attraction in person (although I see how easy it could be to fall in love especially using webcams and similarly when meeting in person). Even if we meet and have strong mutual attraction I will still meet as many women as I can on my trip. I do not want my trip to be comprised of meeting DIA contacts because I am convinced there are so many opportunities on the ground it is far better to do your shopping in person than online before trip. She is 5'5" (hope this is accurate because I like taller women and RK mentioned maybe some women are not sure of their height) and weighs only 99lbs. When we first met on cam she said she would try to eat more because she thinks she looks too thin (but when I asked if she has enough to east she said yes and says she is frustrated because she eats extra and still cannot gain weight). She is embarrassed by her appearance because people make the assumption she does not have enough money for food. She says maybe it is genetic and comes from her father (that's what I was hoping since I like skinny athletic women). I've looked through 500 profiles to find her and chatted with 100's of girls and had many cam to cam sessions with other girls to find this one; but I understand meeting in person could be very different than my online attraction.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]However I'm not sure that what works in the Philippines will necessarily work if you take her home. I think the 60 year old guys who marry a 19 year old beauty and take her back to the US are running a considerable risk that the relationship will break down as she attracts many much younger guys in the US, but that is speculation on my part.[/QUOTE]I think 20 years max is good if you want the relationship to last without divorce (in the USA anyway). I will be 56 soon and would be embarrassed to have a 20 year old wife and I look young for my age. But I have no problem being attracted to these girls (fortunately I have no kids because if I had a daughter in her early 20's it would spoil it for me). As far as perceptions go; most Americans are probably less able to guess age of Asian woman since most are not very familiar this race and appearance.
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[QUOTE=Marconista]So - @doingourduty; It is too easy to fall in love with a low-voiced sweet talking, beautiful lady, and in an instant you dont know what hit you except that you find that you are in love.
BTW, I have a pinay female friend that is 5'10 he he he... married and well off now I have to add. But they are out there.[/QUOTE]Marc,
Thank you for the encouragement. 5’6” to 5’9” thin and athletic melts my butter (assuming pretty face).
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Thanks to your replies on my lack of response on DIA!
Actually, I just noticed that 80% of the girls haven't logged on to DIA after I sent my message. So they simply didn't read it yet. That may explain my dismal response rate.
Can some of you share what you normally write in your first message to the girl?
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DIA tips
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Thanks to your replies on my lack of response on DIA!
Actually, I just noticed that 80% of the girls haven't logged on to DIA after I sent my message. So they simply didn't read it yet. That may explain my dismal response rate.
Can some of you share what you normally write in your first message to the girl?[/QUOTE]
As somebody else said the girls are kind of racist and most are looking for white guys from North America, Europe or Australasia. if that's not you then you probably have to accept a lower run rate.
In terms of photos most guys either dont have any pic or a very poor shot. They will still get plenty of contacts but the risk is that the more popular girls dont bother. A 18-30 year old girl with a half decent profile and a good pic, no kids slim etc will probably get 50-100 messages a day depending how often she logs on so if you want to get her attention you need to stand out somehow. On the other hand the plain janes from the province maybe with a kid or two maybe only get 2 or 3 messages a day and need to be proactive.
If you want to improve you run rate with the higher quality girls try a photo where you are smiling, looking at the camera, not wearing sunglasses etc and if you are white, looking white. they are not looking for Robert De Nero but someone who looks decent and honest.
The next thing to do is to fill out your profile completely and have a short para . be clear and frank as to what you are really looking for and whether you have specific plans to come to the Phils.
On DIA you can largely forget about the girls who initiate contact you as they are invariably either scammers or girls getting 2-3 messages themselves. The high quality attractive girls are getting too swamped to be proactive.
CB is different because it is a pay site so even good quality girls wil be lucky to get 15 messages a day so you are going to get many girls just messaging or winking at you trying to drum up business.
ifv you do have real plans to come to the phils then you should probably start a message with this. Hi I'm Mike from the USA planning my first trip to Phils in August etc etc
For further advice you need to tell us a bit about what your situation is and what you are looking for
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I'm Chinese-American, so I guess I'll have to accept a lower hit rate. That's OK.
My header says something like "looking for friendship, maybe more later". I guess that's a little too soft, especially now that I'm surfing for guy's profile and seeing what otherse are writing. And my opening message seems equally soft. I say something like "Hi, there, would you like to be friends?". I guess this site isn't for friendship.
Why would girls pay to be on CherryBlossoms when DIA is free? I get lots of hits on CB, almost all of it unsolicited.
I shouldn't have said I'm getting only a 10% reply rate. 80% of girls whom I've messaged hasn't even logged in to read it.
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I am getting responses to about 9 out of 10 messages I sent out. Some I tell flat out that I am there for just fun. Others I just play along and tell them that we will see what happens.
All of them seem interested and want to meet for whatever.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]I have a DIA question from a DIA newbie.
I'm not getting much hits on my profile. I would send out 10 messages and only 2 would look ay my profile (and one would reply). I don't think it's the profile (which looks normal and has a decent photo) because people aren't even seeing it.
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[QUOTE=Doingourduty]I will be the first to tell you that I don't think the success of my upcoming trip is improved any by meeting girls beforehand on CB and DIA.[/QUOTE]
Yes perhaps but it is always good to have a friend you can fall back on as a first time visitor in a strange city.
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several issues
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]I'm Chinese-American, so I guess I'll have to accept a lower hit rate. That's OK.
My header says something like "looking for friendship, maybe more later". I guess that's a little too soft, especially now that I'm surfing for guy's profile and seeing what otherse are writing. And my opening message seems equally soft. I say something like "Hi, there, would you like to be friends?". I guess this site isn't for friendship.
Why would girls pay to be on CherryBlossoms when DIA is free? I get lots of hits on CB, almost all of it unsolicited.
I shouldn't have said I'm getting only a 10% reply rate. 80% of girls whom I've messaged hasn't even logged in to read it.[/QUOTE]
There are several issues here.
1 Many Asian guys have plenty of luck in the Phils. Cebu for example is full of South Koreans and many girls prefer them for a variety of reasons. However these guys tend not to signup to an English site such as DIA which consequently attracts mainly girls with a preference for white "americans" (ie westerners).
2 Some girls are racist re skin colour/facial features/size etc not much you can do about that. Other girls are wary about ethnic Chinese because of the sometimes bad attitude or cultural mismatch eg poor language skills/sense of humour etc. If you are an ABC banana as the chinese would say then you need to emphasise that you live/were born in the US and maybe that you combine the best of both cultures.
Of course all this does rather depend on what you are looking for if you are just looking for sex for cash your Pesos are as good as anyone elses and you wiont have many problems. i am assuming that you are looking for some sort of medium term GFE.
3 Stuff about lets be friends is way too wooly. Most of the decent girls really dont want to be a unpaid virtual gf fro a lonely guy in California chatting for months.
4 CB is free for girls and paid for men. That means that the ratios are relatively favourable for guys. Even top girls will just get 20% the number of messages on CB than on DIA, that means they tend to be more proactive and will spend wime messaging and smiling at guys.
5 you should also try tagged.com which is a kind of failed facebook/social site which doubles as a dating site as it allows unlimited free messaging, loads of pics and age/location searching
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend]
.........Why would girls pay to be on CherryBlossoms when DIA is free? I get lots of hits on CB, almost all of it unsolicited...............[/QUOTE]
As GL said, most of the sites, CB included, have subscription rates for men but women are free.
Adult Friend Finder (AFF) occasionally has short-term freebie offers for men (like 24 hours free messaging) to get you hooked on the site so that then you will pay.
AFF is almost 100% women looking for sex except an occasional naive one who strays on accidentally and then wonders WTF.
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Aff
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]As GL said, most of the sites, CB included, have subscription rates for men but women are free.
Adult Friend Finder (AFF) occasionally has short-term freebie offers for men (like 24 hours free messaging) to get you hooked on the site so that then you will pay.
AFF is almost 100% women looking for sex except an occasional naive one who strays on accidentally and then wonders WTF.[/QUOTE]
Have you had much luck with Adult FF? 10 years ago I used to use Asia Friend finder which was great at the time but completely lost it.
Is AFF full of overpriced hookers? or genuine good prospects?
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Have you had much luck with Adult FF? 10 years ago I used to use Asia Friend finder which was great at the time but completely lost it.
Is AFF full of overpriced hookers? or genuine good prospects?[/QUOTE]
I had a 3 months subscription 2 years ago when I had just discovered the internet as a contact medium.
I met quite a few women who were not hookers and many who were looking for fun on the side. I got a few contacts at the time and so kept them going for a while after my sub lapsed. Probably like you GL, I no longer pay for access to any websites (DIA is my sole site) as there are plenty of prospects as soon as you walk out the door.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I had a 3 months subscription 2 years ago when I had just discovered the internet as a contact medium.
I met quite a few women who were not hookers and many who were looking for fun on the side. I got a few contacts at the time and so kept them going for a while after my sub lapsed. Probably like you GL, I no longer pay for access to any websites (DIA is my sole site) as there are plenty of prospects as soon as you walk out the door.[/QUOTE]
I pay for a month when I am in the US and only the US. It works great for casual.
But I also use Craigslist and it works great for free.
Robb
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For the unwary there are alot of ladyboys on DIA so make sure u try before you buy ;)
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Age
[QUOTE=Doingourduty]I think 20 years max is good if you want the relationship to last without divorce (in the USA anyway). I will be 56 soon and would be embarrassed to have a 20 year old wife and I look young for my age. But I have no problem being attracted to these girls (fortunately I have no kids because if I had a daughter in her early 20's it would spoil it for me). As far as perceptions go; most Americans are probably less able to guess age of Asian woman since most are not very familiar this race and appearance.[/QUOTE]I'm at a resort two years ago. At the pool one day is a pretty 19-20 year-old blond sunbathing. A waitress comes by taking drink orders. The blond says, "Yez is zoe hot here. Do you have blah blah blah. " Heavy Russian accent. Later in the evening my gf and I are heading into the restraunt for dinner. We are seated at a table right next to the table were the Russian girl is sitting. With her is a mid-50's gent, grey hair. Trim and fit. He appears to be her father. A waiter comes over and takes their drink order. The gent asks for whatever drink, in perfect norte americano english. The waiter says, "And for your daughter sir? " Instant embarrassment for everyone, and the waiter had no idea he had said something embarassing. The gent said, "She's my WIFE! " The girl blushed. Hell, even I blushed. Few things say married ho like that situation.
I find it interesting, the older a man gets, the larger that age gap gets in his mind. Seems nobody wants to marry a 40 year-old girl. I'd keep that max age difference to 15 years, no more. While living with a young honey is great (in your mind), walking around with her is a whole other story. Only in filipines is this (kind of) acceptable. And girls there only do it with foreigners. Its accepted in AC, because that's a puta capital. Outside of filipines.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]
While living with a young honey is great (in your mind), walking around with her is a whole other story. Only in filipines is this (kind of) acceptable. And girls there only do it with foreigners. Its accepted in AC, because that's a puta capital. [/QUOTE]
Just to reiterate what you are saying:
Many 50 + guys hook up with and even marry 20 year olds and AT THAT TIME it seems to be OK all round.
But they forget to add on 15 - 20 years. The guy is 65 - 70 and probably having a few health issues as well as taking Vitamin V every day to keep up with his 35 -40 year old who is in her prime sexual years.
Many of the girls on DIA and AFF are in this situation. A number have told me so.
I have a friend in Cebu that I discreetly meet whenever I visit because her husband is too old and cannot keep her happy (sexually), but pampers her in many different ways
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Wedding bells
"Seems nobody wants to marry a 40 year-old girl."
The hot 40 year old babes like the toy boys. Check out night clubs to see what I mean. If oyu can't bring money or power to the matrimonial suite (when hubby is away), you must bring young and fresh meat.
In Vientam, the guys marry overweight Taiwanese hags. The bigger the cargo, the bigger the dowry.
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Where to go in the Philippenes
So, planning my first trip at the end of July to either the Phillippines or Bangkok. If I go to te Phillippines it will be my firt vist. So the question is...where to go if I decided on the Phillippines? I'm flying in from Hong Kong, have a 6 day window.
Suggestions?
I'm leaning towards ANgles city but not sure I'll get a prime hotel, but the place sounds fun.
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he he... a good one.
But nevertheless true, since I have seen more than a few pinoys (sailors on leave in port) that picked up BBW (ugh!) in Hamburg and Amsterdam saying that they GOT A LOT for what they paid.
[QUOTE=The Departed]In Vientam, the guys marry overweight Taiwanese hags. The bigger the cargo, the bigger the dowry.[/QUOTE]
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Good for the goose.....
[QUOTE=The Departed]"Seems nobody wants to marry a 40 year-old girl."
The hot 40 year old babes like the toy boys. Check out night clubs to see what I mean. If oyu can't bring money or power to the matrimonial suite (when hubby is away), you must bring young and fresh meat.
In Vientam, the guys marry overweight Taiwanese hags. The bigger the cargo, the bigger the dowry.[/QUOTE]
Yes in Africa especially Egypt, Morocco, Kenya, The Gambia, Senegal female sex tourism is big business. It's common to see overweight middle aged white women with Emanuel Adebayor lookalikes. The Japanese girls seem to prefer a trip to Bali to pick up the young Indonesian surfer dudes.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]I find it interesting, the older a man gets, the larger that age gap gets in his mind. Seems nobody wants to marry a 40 year-old girl. I'd keep that max age difference to 15 years, no more. While living with a young honey is great (in your mind), walking around with her is a whole other story. Only in filipines is this (kind of) acceptable. And girls there only do it with foreigners. Its accepted in AC, because that's a puta capital. Outside of filipines.[/QUOTE]Just spent a delightful few days in East Malaysia. Took my 21 year old Indonesian student. Im the same 50+ suave fit cool looking guy as in your story. No one batted an eyelid, alothugh most guys on withh a certain element of jealousy.
Not only in the Philippines. I see same in Singapore, Hong Kong, China etc etc. Get out and travel more and look at the world with eyes more than half open and not half closed.
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Depends what you want
[QUOTE=Gtrock123]So, planning my first trip at the end of July to either the Phillippines or Bangkok. If I go to te Phillippines it will be my firt vist. So the question is...where to go if I decided on the Phillippines? I'm flying in from Hong Kong, have a 6 day window.
Suggestions?
I'm leaning towards ANgles city but not sure I'll get a prime hotel, but the place sounds fun.[/QUOTE]
If you want the bar girl scene go to Angeles, if you want the freelancer/non pros go to Cebu, if you want scenery/romance go to Palawan
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Just spent a delightful few days in East Malaysia. Took my 21 year old Indonesian student. Im the same 50+ suave fit cool looking guy as in your story. No one batted an eyelid, alothugh most guys on withh a certain element of jealousy.
Not only in the Philippines. I see same in Singapore, Hong Kong, China etc etc. Get out and travel more and look at the world with eyes more than half open and not half closed.[/QUOTE]
Suave, fit, cool looking........so who was it I met the other week :D Unless of course it was me you were confusing yourself with :)
Seriously, am easy about walking around my my cutie, dont care which country...all about confidence and reailsing that some are very jealous....
I know the 'issues' of western countries but IMHO that is due to narrow minded views (and some jealousy).
When I was in SM Mall my cutie got jealous looks from some of girls, I got the eye from some of those girls and some guy saw us and then compared his cutie to mine..was very amusing
Be confident, dont think about what others, think just have fun...and realise many guys wish it was them in your place
BTW my age difference is 30+ with my cutie....and I love it :)
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I Know
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]
I know the 'issues' of western countries but IMHO that is due to narrow minded views (and some jealousy).
Be confident, dont think about what others, think just have fun...and realise many guys wish it was them in your place
BTW my age difference is 30+ with my cutie....and I love it :)
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First time I took my Pinay wife home to a Southern US state, you should have seen the looks we got. Some was the age difference and some was the fact the people were backward fucks who had never been more than 50 miles from home.
She is only 14 years my junior and my military buddies accused me of cradle robbing since she looked so young. They had no room for accusations since one of their wives looked even younger than mine but about the same age.
Slim
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Suave, fit, cool looking. So who was it I met the other week Unless of course it was me you were confusing yourself with
Seriously, am easy about walking around my my cutie, don't care which country. All about confidence and reailsing that some are very jealous.
I know the 'issues' of western countries but IMHO that is due to narrow minded views (and some jealousy).
When I was in SM Mall my cutie got jealous looks from some of girls, I got the eye from some of those girls and some guy saw us and then compared his cutie to mine. Was very amusing
Be confident, don't think about what others, think just have fun. And realise many guys wish it was them in your place
BTW my age difference is 30+ with my cutie. And I love it[/QUOTE]Ssssssh WR. Don't tell anyone I'm not quite so suave or cool. I have to keep up appearances. Age difference on most recent trip, 32 years! I'm lovin it!
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What does it mean when they request Chocolates?
I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (usa) like Chocolates.
Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?
All the fancy Chocolates in usa come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?
The most common outrageous request I hear is for the new Iphone. I guess that is equivalent to driving a Ferrari around in usa.
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (usa) like Chocolates.
Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?
All the fancy Chocolates in usa come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?
The most common outrageous request I hear is for the new Iphone. I guess that is equivalent to driving a Ferrari around in usa.[/QUOTE]
There are 7/11s, Ministops and alike all around main chocolate brand being Hershey´s. Must mean something else. I guess IPhone would seal the deal :) IPhone is not a Ferrari if you look more close into it. Maybe a Ferrari with family car engine. It is mid category phone with excellent usability for main stream users.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ssssssh WR. Don't tell anyone I'm not quite so suave or cool. I have to keep up appearances. Age difference on most recent trip, 32 years! I'm lovin it![/QUOTE]
Is she going be changing your dipers? You as all of us will eventually be in that age...
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (usa) like Chocolates.
Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?
All the fancy Chocolates in usa come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?
The most common outrageous request I hear is for the new Iphone. I guess that is equivalent to driving a Ferrari around in usa.[/QUOTE]It means they like to be given chocolates. Nothing strange about that. The more adventurous ones will ask for perfume. But most will be happy that you show some " care" by bringing some chocolates. Every Filipina asks for them.
Its normal. And has nothing to do with payment.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ssssssh WR. Don't tell anyone I'm not quite so suave or cool.[/QUOTE]
If you were suave you would have a cigarette dangling from your mouth! :rolleyes:
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Fill your suitcase with Hersheys
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (USA) like Chocolates.
Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?
All the fancy Chocolates in USA come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?
The most common outrageous request I hear is for the new Iphone. I guess that is equivalent to driving a Ferrari around in USA.[/QUOTE]Nope they actually mean chocolates. Its not code, though it did seem odd to me. Good old Cadbury or Toblerone costing about $2 or $3, not fancy individually wrapped gifts. Think quantity not quality.
Nice girls will ask you for them – even in a pushy way. The value these women place on a $3 chocolate bar is psychologically about $200. (my estimate)
Most of these candy bars can be purchased there. But the fact it travelled on the plane makes it better some how.
It's a bit like flowers in the west. A $20 bunch of flowers scores more highly than a $300 necklace. Women have a weird scale of value. Don't argue! Just use it to your advantage.
Check out Dragon Slayers forum and search for the word "chocolate" – he may explain it better
Next time I go I will again take as much as possible. At worst you can use them to "tip" a hotel receptionist. That can reap fantastic rewards.
I too have been asked for major gifts. Like a notebook. They think if you are Foreigner you are a billionaire. Just smile and say. They are very expensive here. Are they cheap there?
Anyway – load your luggage limit with $3 chocolate bars and be generous with them. If, after your trip, you say I am wrong, I will personally refund you the price of the chocolates you bought – no proof needed, I'll take your word for it.
Bon Voyage
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I have been chatting with some Filipinas via dia and will be meeting some of them next week. Many of the girls have asked for me to bring them something special from my country (usa) like Chocolates.
Is this request suggesting that they expect to be paid for their time? Or do they really like Chocolates?
All the fancy Chocolates in usa come from somewhere else. So does this mean a few Hershey or Snicker Bars will seal the deal?
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Chocolate...they love as so expensive in PI...and IMHO they prefer European brands
I always bring large slabs/bars of Cadburys and some Godiva/Lindt boxes etc as this goes down well and they bwill love you for life.Sometimes Toblerone
Hersheys....without wishing to start a flame war on chocolate on this forum...H is not chocolate IMHO (and many filipinas will agree with me since they tried Cadburys et al), and dont give them Snickers.
Go to the 1st/ 2nd floor SM Department store in makati and see the price of Cadburys and Toblerone...very expensive
Last time I was in PI I broiught 10 slabs plus a few boxes of Godiva chocolates - all consumed eagerly - I have some more in the fridge now for the next trip
Not sure of your route to PI but some duty free shops sell the good chocolate so maybe check in advance and buy there if you have time and are transitting
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WR,
I usually just buy the Cadbury or whatever in the Philippines. Is it really much cheaper elsewhwere? It's available where I am at the moment, but I never thought to price check.
The best value chocolate I ever took to the Philippines was some cheap milk choco that I bought wrapped in foil and looking like coins. I shared it with some bikini-clad gals at EDSA. They enjoyed it. As you might expect there were the usual jokes about paying the bf with these choco coins. No takers.
But then some 18yr old newbie approached and she really thought it was silver and gold coin. Her eyes got almost as big as the chocolate coins. As you might expect, the other gals teased her mercilessly. But she was a good sport about it.
Ah, chocolate.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Chocolate...they love as so expensive in PI...and IMHO they prefer European brands
I always bring large slabs/bars of Cadburys and some Godiva/Lindt boxes etc as this goes down well and they bwill love you for life.Sometimes Toblerone
Hersheys....without wishing to start a flame war on chocolate on this forum...H is not chocolate IMHO (and many filipinas will agree with me since they tried Cadburys et al), and dont give them Snickers.
Go to the 1st/ 2nd floor SM Department store in makati and see the price of Cadburys and Toblerone...very expensive
Last time I was in PI I broiught 10 slabs plus a few boxes of Godiva chocolates - all consumed eagerly - I have some more in the fridge now for the next trip
Not sure of your route to PI but some duty free shops sell the good chocolate so maybe check in advance and buy there if you have time and are transitting[/QUOTE]
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Thanks Roger.
I actualy thought when they asked for chocolate that they were suggesting other things. What simple creatures :)
I went out last night and did exactly what you said and purchased alot of imported chocolate. Btw Hershey's sucks. Lol. Just kidding, Hershey is actualy my chocolate bar of choice but the quality of european chocolate is of course much better.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Chocolate...they love as so expensive in PI...and IMHO they prefer European brands
I always bring large slabs/bars of Cadburys and some Godiva/Lindt boxes etc as this goes down well and they bwill love you for life.Sometimes Toblerone
Hersheys....without wishing to start a flame war on chocolate on this forum...H is not chocolate IMHO (and many filipinas will agree with me since they tried Cadburys et al), and dont give them Snickers.
Go to the 1st/ 2nd floor SM Department store in makati and see the price of Cadburys and Toblerone...very expensive
Last time I was in PI I broiught 10 slabs plus a few boxes of Godiva chocolates - all consumed eagerly - I have some more in the fridge now for the next trip
Not sure of your route to PI but some duty free shops sell the good chocolate so maybe check in advance and buy there if you have time and are transitting[/QUOTE]
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chocolate
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Chocolate...they love as so expensive in PI...and IMHO they prefer European brands
I always bring large slabs/bars of Cadburys and some Godiva/Lindt boxes etc as this goes down well and they bwill love you for life.Sometimes Toblerone
Hersheys....without wishing to start a flame war on chocolate on this forum...H is not chocolate IMHO (and many filipinas will agree with me since they tried Cadburys et al), and dont give them Snickers.
Go to the 1st/ 2nd floor SM Department store in makati and see the price of Cadburys and Toblerone...very expensive
Last time I was in PI I broiught 10 slabs plus a few boxes of Godiva chocolates - all consumed eagerly - I have some more in the fridge now for the next trip
Not sure of your route to PI but some duty free shops sell the good chocolate so maybe check in advance and buy there if you have time and are transitting[/QUOTE]
catburry was not fit to be considered chocolate outside England within the EU until very recently. They got that distinction thru some dirty political deals. Hersheeeeyyys, well what do Americans know about food.
More practical. If you fly in from Europe, just buy some cheap dark chocolate, no brand name in any cheap supermarket. Same quality, 80% or more cheaper and, guess, it comes from the same factory.
I had great success with some Polish dark chocolate sold Eu-wide.
So buy lots of cheap stuff, dont pay for the packaging and use the savings for nice things
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[QUOTE=Mattrick]If you were suave you would have a cigarette dangling from your mouth! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]Unless you are being sarcastic. You would never see a cigarette dangling from my mouth. Maybe a nipple. Rolls eyes twice over.
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[QUOTE=White Whale]Is she going be changing your dipers? You as all of us will eventually be in that age...[/QUOTE]Sorry, but my English dictionary doesn't quite help me understand what it is that you are trying to say. Try writing in English maybe?
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You can find some of the best BBQ, Japanese, French, Thai, Mexican, Spanish & Italian restaurants here in USA. All considered American food. We dont knock what other countries do better thank us we just enjoy it. Then we bring it here to the usa, franchise it and and sell it back to you. We know alot of things about good food :)
And I bet you the #1 selling candy bar in the world is probably Hershey's. Obviously not of the same fine quality of european chocolate but I guess some people like it.
Oh, I forgot this was a sex site not a food review. Lol
[QUOTE= Hersheeeeyyys, well what do Americans know about food.[/QUOTE]
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Numero uno
Yeah... whatever... always number 1, di ba?
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]You can find some of the best BBQ, Japanese, French, Thai, Mexican, Spanish & Italian restaurants here in USA. All considered American food. We dont knock what other countries do better thank us we just enjoy it. Then we bring it here to the usa, franchise it and and sell it back to you. We know alot of things about good food :)
And I bet you the #1 selling candy bar in the world is probably Hershey's. Obviously not of the same fine quality of european chocolate but I guess some people like it.
Oh, I forgot this was a sex site not a food review. Lol[/QUOTE]
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Sweet tooth
Filipina's certainly have a sweet tooth. There is way too much sugar in many Filipina dishes. You only have to look at the economics to see why so many young Pinays are so keen on it. Take an average family with a family income of say 400P a day and 5 kids, a tiny 35g hershays costs about 60P here - you can see the kids arent going to be eating chocolate every day.
As others have said if you bring some focus on quantity rather than packaging/quality. Bumper slabs fro0m the local supermarket.
However much you bring, unless you post an armed guard outside your fridge door, there may not be too much left after 3 or 4 days.
On a more serious note this is an issue for those marrying Pinays. The fact is that the average Filipina is say 3kg heavier than an average Thai girl and 6 kg heavier than a Cambodian/Viet girl. Once the restraints of poverty are lifted they seem to put on the pounds faster than you might hope. You may get more than you bargained for - literally.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Filipina's certainly have a sweet tooth. There is way too much sugar in many Filipina dishes. You only have to look at the economics to see why so many young Pinays are so keen on it. Take an average family with a family income of say 400P a day and 5 kids, a tiny 35g hershays costs about 60P here - you can see the kids arent going to be eating chocolate every day.
As others have said if you bring some focus on quantity rather than packaging/quality. Bumper slabs fro0m the local supermarket.
However much you bring, unless you post an armed guard outside your fridge door, there may not be too much left after 3 or 4 days.
On a more serious note this is an issue for those marrying Pinays. The fact is that the average Filipina is say 3kg heavier than an average Thai girl and 6 kg heavier than a Cambodian/Viet girl. Once the restraints of poverty are lifted they seem to put on the pounds faster than you might hope. You may get more than you bargained for - literally.[/QUOTE]
And wait until you see one of those girls in the USA 5 years after she has divorced her "beloved" and put on about 15 kgs. Brown American cow then.
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Best site for Pinay girls to find husband?
We all know that DIA and Tagged are probably the top sites to get short time semi pro girls in the phils.
I have a couple of girls who I've spend much of the last month with who have asked me how they can best find a decent western husband. These are nice quality educated but open minded girls and i think would be attractive to many guys looking for a wife. What are people's views as to the best site for them to put up a profile????
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]We all know that DIA and Tagged are probably the top sites to get short time semi pro girls in the phils.
I have a couple of girls who I've spend much of the last month with who have asked me how they can best find a decent western husband. These are nice quality educated but open minded girls and i think would be attractive to many guys looking for a wife. What are people's views as to the best site for them to put up a profile????[/QUOTE]
Meetic Asia seems to be good for serious people
[url]http://asia.meetic.com/[/url]
I have had some friends find success there.
There are various sites - Meetic Asia, Meetic Europe etc. Google Meetic to get the one best suited
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The Life of Suzy Wong
Interesting post about sugar. Cheap Thai food is certainly healthier than the Jollibee type muck Pinoys eat. The fascination with chocolate (not found in Thailand where gold is preferred) is also interesting.
I am in Davao del Norte at the moment. The shit young Pinays have to go through to get a shit job defies belief. They need police clearance, health cert (scam where the private hospital makes them buy over priced medicine junk they do not need to get the cert), voters' reg cert and so on. All of these cost about 1,500 pesos and can involve travelling as well and days lost to collect them. No wonder the ouside world looks so appealing.
And then we have their total naiivity. They comer from dirt poor families who know nothing about anything.
I picked up a hooker in Davao city and did the ultimate walk of shame with her. Up the main street being greeted by hundreds of her fellow hookers. I felt like a big tuna being shown to the less lucky fishermen.
Back to my room where she started a massage and I started to drowse as i was so tired. When I opened my eyes, she had emptied most of my pockets and filled her own. I emptied all her pockets and showed her my fist. After a big show (she offered a fuck for 500 pesos), I pushed her out. 210 pesos to her and 60 to the security guard who finally got rid of her. I don't need this shit anymore.
I watched the Life of Suzy Wong. Old but right on the button as regards working women. Though it is full of Hollywood tinsel and has a happy ending, those who follow the Thai women/ Pinay/Chinese women will find a lot of familiar themes in it.
From now on, I only fuck non hookers. Here is is easier than falling off a log. Goodbye hookers and thanks for the memories.
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[QUOTE=X Man]WR,
I usually just buy the Cadbury or whatever in the Philippines. Is it really much cheaper elsewhwere? It's available where I am at the moment, but I never thought to price check.
Ah, chocolate.[/QUOTE]
X
I buy mine at duty free shops mainly in Dubai and UK where there are some great deals (eg buy 2 get 1 free or better) so great VFM. I compared prices (out of curiousity only) at SM Department Store and was really surpirsed at how expensive I thought it was in PI. Also some Swiss DFs are great for Toblerone.....
At Xmas some of the DF shops I pass through have wonderful deals so I stock up..problem is they stay in my fridge ...and then slowly disappear while my stomach gets bigger :D
OK enough chocolate talk, lets get back to our favourite topic :)
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Roger and X
I'm in between Chicago and Milwaukee and Chocolate is one of my favorite topics too around here too!!!!
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Asian girls in films
[QUOTE=The Departed]Interesting post about sugar. Cheap Thai food is certainly healthier than the Jollibee type muck Pinoys eat. The fascination with chocolate (not found in Thailand where gold is preferred) is also interesting.
I am in Davao del Norte at the moment. The shit young Pinays have to go through to get a shit job defies belief. They need police clearance, health cert (scam where the private hospital makes them buy over priced medicine junk they do not need to get the cert), voters' reg cert and so on. All of these cost about 1,500 pesos and can involve travelling as well and days lost to collect them. No wonder the ouside world looks so appealing.
And then we have their total naiivity. They comer from dirt poor families who know nothing about anything.
I picked up a hooker in Davao city and did the ultimate walk of shame with her. Up the main street being greeted by hundreds of her fellow hookers. I felt like a big tuna being shown to the less lucky fishermen.
Back to my room where she started a massage and I started to drowse as i was so tired. When I opened my eyes, she had emptied most of my pockets and filled her own. I emptied all her pockets and showed her my fist. After a big show (she offered a fuck for 500 pesos), I pushed her out. 210 pesos to her and 60 to the security guard who finally got rid of her. I don't need this shit anymore.
I watched the Life of Suzy Wong. Old but right on the button as regards working women. Though it is full of Hollywood tinsel and has a happy ending, those who follow the Thai women/ Pinay/Chinese women will find a lot of familiar themes in it.
From now on, I only fuck non hookers. Here is is easier than falling off a log. Goodbye hookers and thanks for the memories.[/QUOTE]
Suzy Wong is one of my fave films too, i watched it as a boy and think it impacted my whole outlook . Another much more recent great China oriented film is: Lust, Caution. Really wel shot and tense with some very sexual sex scenes.
If you, like me are on the road with no easy access to films you can download them through rapidshare.
[url]http://www.warez-bb.org/[/url]
is in my view the best and easiest place to locate the links
if you do serious downloading you probably need a pro rapidshare account which is great value for money if you download more than a handful of stuff.
A good download manager such as "internet download manager" is also very useful as it allows you to download a whole series of RS links in one click.
Most big files are split into 100MB segments which are compressed with WINRAR, so that is a useful program to download (through 7 zip will I think also unzip linked rars.) (Once you have downloaded the series of files click on part one decompress an it will daisy chain so that you get the whole lot.
When it comes to watching the movies on your PC/Laptop the free "VLC" program is very good though "Media Player Classic" is better for High Definition films such as Lust Caution and most more recent films.
All of the above programs are either free or you can pick up hacked copies through warez bb.
May sound complicated if like may guys you struggle on the PC stuff but once you have got the right programs you can download just about anything for free very easily provided you have a decent internet connection .
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]We all know that DIA and Tagged are probably the top sites to get short time semi pro girls in the phils.
I have a couple of girls who I've spend much of the last month with who have asked me how they can best find a decent western husband. These are nice quality educated but open minded girls and i think would be attractive to many guys looking for a wife. What are people's views as to the best site for them to put up a profile????[/QUOTE]Hey Greg,
Two sites of the top of my head are Filipina Eyes and Jade Rune. Like DIA it is free for both men and women but these are much smaller, much more heavily moderated sites than DIA. Jade Rune is very primitive and also religious, but I don't think you have to be born again to post an ad. LOL Also, you can get the adresses without actually joining anything at all if I remember correctly.
FE is a more up to date site, which also has two spin-off sites of a similar nature. You have to post a picture to put an ad up. I've never joined either of the sites but there are no shemales or obvious bullshit that I could spot, and both seem pretty good for finding serious relationships. I don't know how it would work for a monger, which is why I didn't use them before my trip last year.
My two cents.
Gonzo
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I've never checked it for monger material but I bet Person.com has a few. They have a free cam section full of the Filipina beggar sort, and those looking to get hitched.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Gonzofiend]Hey Greg,
Two sites of the top of my head are Filipina Eyes and Jade Rune. Like DIA it is free for both men and women but these are much smaller, much more heavily moderated sites than DIA. Jade Rune is very primitive and also religious, but I don't think you have to be born again to post an ad. LOL Also, you can get the adresses without actually joining anything at all if I remember correctly.
FE is a more up to date site, which also has two spin-off sites of a similar nature. You have to post a picture to put an ad up. I've never joined either of the sites but there are no shemales or obvious bullshit that I could spot, and both seem pretty good for finding serious relationships. I don't know how it would work for a monger, which is why I didn't use them before my trip last year.
My two cents.
Gonzo[/QUOTE]
Thanks for those suggestions guys.
I do have an account with Person.com I find the interface confusing I know both girls and guys who use it alot, but mostly for amateur cam show business.
Filipina Eyes seems to have merged with a couple of other free sites, Filipina lady and Asian Dating but seems worth a try. it's good to support some of the new sites trying to breakinto the ground held by the "big guys"
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Thanks for those suggestions guys.
I do have an account with Person.com I find the interface confusing I know both girls and guys who use it alot, but mostly for amateur cam show business.
Filipina Eyes seems to have merged with a couple of other free sites, Filipina lady and Asian Dating but seems worth a try. it's good to support some of the new sites trying to breakinto the ground held by the "big guys"[/QUOTE]
Just go to AC or Manila
Its soooooooooooooo easy
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Getting Organized
I have recently made efforts to organize my very numerous contacts of phil girls. Probably like many of you I have been relying on Yahoo Messenger for this so far but thats a bit hit and miss and lacks good search functionality or ability to put in fields etc.
I therefore tried somePIM software (as I dont really want to integrate 100s of Pinay girls many of whom I barely know or are scammers with my main Contacts Phonebooks.
I've ended up using Essential PIM which i have found ideal for the purpose.
You can either download the free version. or can get a hacked copy of the Pro version through Warez BB/Rapidshare - or of course you can just pay for it. I think the free basic version has plenty of functionality though im using the pro.
I like it because its a "lightweight" non resource hog program
I can easily group the girls by hometown
I can add as many customised fields as i like eg Facebook, DIA, YM age, weight, cuteness willingness to do threesomes , bjs and whatever else is important for you. You can also easily add a pic of the girl.
The whole thing is then highly searchable . What I try to do now is gather and input this info into the PIM when I first start chatting with a girl on YM
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Thanks for those suggestions guys.
I do have an account with Person.com I find the interface confusing I know both girls and guys who use it alot, but mostly for amateur cam show business.
Filipina Eyes seems to have merged with a couple of other free sites, Filipina lady and Asian Dating but seems worth a try. it's good to support some of the new sites trying to breakinto the ground held by the "big guys"[/QUOTE]
Have you tried Filipinaheart.com ...this site seems to me to be the most heavily advertised site of them all. The search is quite good also, as you have the option to search by province (like tagged.com) and then town. The amount of girls from provinces are significantly more than tagged.com, where with DIA every other girl is from Cebu! ^^
Downside is you have to pay to email... >:(
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Bikinis
One tip I would offer to newbies tackling the Dating Site Scene (assuming you are not cheap charlying it in a pension with no pool) is to invest in 3 or 4 cheap but skimpy bikinis. These can be bought for 150-600P in the Phils. Very few of the younger girls will have bikinis unless they are from a rich family or have had previous foreign bfs. If you invite them to a pool they will typically expect to wear shorts+T shirt.
I try and keep a few handy for pool parties. If your girl has a good body and no bikini pics in a cheap skimpy bikini may actually be the single most valuable cheap gift you can get her as a good bikini shot can multiple the number of responses she will get from her DIA/CB/Tagged/Facebook etc profile 2-3x which may not be good news if you are serious about the girl, but otherwise will be doing her a big favour.
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Which Cebu?
[QUOTE=Tenchi]Have you tried Filipinaheart.com ...this site seems to me to be the most heavily advertised site of them all. The search is quite good also, as you have the option to search by province (like tagged.com) and then town. The amount of girls from provinces are significantly more than tagged.com, where with DIA every other girl is from Cebu! ^^
Downside is you have to pay to email... >:([/QUOTE]For those guys using the dating sites, be aware that Cebu is BOTH an island and a city. It's a good idea in your initial chats to determine if the girl lives in Cebu City or some possibly remote location elsewhere on this relatively large and long island. Are you chatting with someone who, living in the Philippines second largest city, will likely be very different in terms of outlook and attitude, than someone from a distant province with far more conservative values and expectations ?
So, get a good map, or use Google Earth. Many girls from the provinces
can be great catches, but if she convinces you to go 'to her place' for your initial meeting, be prepared to meet the extended family.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]One tip I would offer to newbies tackling the Dating Site Scene (assuming you are not cheap charlying it in a pension with no pool) is to invest in 3 or 4 cheap but skimpy bikinis. These can be bought for 150-600P in the Phils. Very few of the younger girls will have bikinis unless they are from a rich family or have had previous foreign bfs. If you invite them to a pool they will typically expect to wear shorts+T shirt.
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Vry good tip but I get mine from Wicked Weasel a tad expensive but very very skimpy (well the ones I buy are :D) and sometime I have to wonder the price per square nano milimetre of material...but when she wears the bikini then I dont care about the price :)
I have never found anything as skimpy in the shops in PI...unless GL you can advise for Cebu?
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bikinis
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Vry good tip but I get mine from Wicked Weasel a tad expensive but very very skimpy (well the ones I buy are :D) and sometime I have to wonder the price per square nano milimetre of material...but when she wears the bikini then I dont care about the price :)
I have never found anything as skimpy in the shops in PI...unless GL you can advise for Cebu?[/QUOTE]
I haven't been impressed with the ones I found in the Malls in Cebu. They seemed to be 600P + and a minimum medium fit so they look too big on petite girls.
I recently got my girls in Palawan to buy 5 from NCCC at 139P each and post them to Cebu by LBC (costs about 150P for next day delivery.)
They are cheap and cheerful but look pretty good on a petite girl.
[url]http://riffyjean.weebly.com/[/url]
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String Bikinis Is The Answer
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I haven't been impressed with the ones I found in the Malls in Cebu. They seemed to be 600P + and a minimum medium fit so they look too big on petite girls.
I recently got my girls in Palawan to buy 5 from NCCC at 139P each and post them to Cebu by LBC (costs about 150P for next day delivery.)
They are cheap and cheerful but look pretty good on a petite girl.
[url]http://riffyjean.weebly.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Yep, bikini investment is certainly worth the initial outlay. I always have at least a couple of them in my bag. You never know when you might find the perfect time to hand them out. To solve the problem of size and also to ensure that they are sexy skimpy, be sure to buy string bikinis.
All of the adjustment being in the tie strings, means that one size can fit all. I'd suggest opting for ones where the bra is lightly padded. That will solve the problem if your girl is smaller breasted, but will also be appreciated by the more endowed as almost all filipinas tend to wear padded bras.
It's also fun to go malling for bikinis. I've made some interesting contacts among salesgirls when I tell them I am on a dual quest, first to buy a bikini and then find the perfect girl to wear it. "Maybe you can be my Cinderella (glass slippers). Would you like to come to Bohol for a
Little holiday? "
BTW, MOST girls will have never worn any kind of bathing suit and will be initially very shy about wearing a bikini. I always buy a sarong for an extra 120 pesos so the girl can wear that over the bikini, and gradually
Ease out of her shyness in wearing it.
They are generally thrilled to be photographed in sexy poses wearing
The racy bikini, so it's also very useful to cast aside inhibitions. Definitely money well spent!
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Badminton & Volleyball
I was just browsing through a few DIA profiles and started laughing at how many women seem to list hobbies as playing volleyball and/or badminton.
I know badminton is quite popular and volleyball seems to be a nice fun thing to do but honestly - some of these women look like they have never ever been out of a slow walk let alone playing a sport.
Most also don't have any money and it is not cheap to play badminton with any regularity. I have NEVER met any woman on DIA who played either sport.
My guess is that one women mentioned badminton or volleyball in a profile back in DIA's early days and it was copied by another woman because it sounded cool and then it was repeated exponentially.
BTW - I refuse to have anything to do with any woman who lists her hobbies as "cooking & cleaning the house". Can you believe this?
I think intelligent life on DIA is a rarity but there are some occasional diamonds with half a brain. Their profiles stand out like a dog's balls.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I was just browsing through a few DIA profiles and started laughing at how many women seem to list hobbies as playing volleyball and/or badminton.[/QUOTE]
Oh I am sure they mean they played it in high school. And they may have a ball/birdy at home and bat it over the clothes line.
BTW I believe Malaysia and/or Indonesia have been Olympic medalists in badminton.
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Teaming up with a lesbian
Another memorable day yesterday. It was the day off for a 19 year old girl (let's call her CCG) I met a week ago through DIA who works at a call centre. As many of you know its unusual to get such a (here) prestigious job so young, but she is very bright and went to Uni and graduated 2 years early. She texted me that she wanted to stay the day with me so I asked her to come to the hotel. By that stage BB18 had gone home after another "punishment" session of being licked by LF which she had earned by "breaking my camera" actually this may have been a bit harsh as shje was merely the last girl to use the camera before the lens cover ceased up - I think due to salt water I had exposed it to in El Nido. Anyhow i think she is beginning to enjoy these punishment sessions.
So I was left with LF and CG1 who had also showed up to take a dip in the pool. CCG turned up whilst I was in the pool and was a little surprised to see the other girls. However I let them chat her up and soon she seemed to be getting on very well. They explained that they were bi girls and would like us all to have some fun together. She shyly agreed and we all went downstairs to my room.
There is a HUGE difference between a threesome/more some session with the typical P4P girls who are really just there to score a payday for their friend and girls who REALLY enjoy it. And its especially wonderful when a couple of relatively experienced and very enthusiastic girls set to work on a initiate to such pleasures. She ended up taking 4 rounds before she had to go home to meet her uncle's curfew.
LF (who I think needs to be renamed BiF as she has begun to take cock, now wants to introduce me t her ex girl friend. Looks pretty nice in her pics, so let's see. )
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[QUOTE=Jambo]Oh I am sure they mean they played it in high school. And they may have a ball/birdy at home and bat it over the clothes line.
BTW I believe Malaysia and/or Indonesia have been Olympic medalists in badminton.[/QUOTE]
I meant exclusively DIA filipinas who say they play badminton and volleyball.
other neighboring countries have many more facilities to play these sports.
Very few women in the Philippines are physically active. I am a member of Fitness First and go to the gym every day in Manila and believe me, there are a few hot bodies around but the majority are way overweight. That's why I laugh at how many list these sports as their hobbies.
I am sure it is "in the mind" only.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Another memorable day yesterday. It was the day off for a 19 year old girl (let's call her CCG) I met a week ago through DIA who works at a call centre. As many of you know its unusual to get such a (here) prestigious job so young, but she is very bright and went to Uni and graduated 2 years early. She texted me that she wanted to stay the day with me so I asked her to come to the hotel. By that stage BB18 had gone home after another "punishment" session of being licked by LF which she had earned by "breaking my camera" actually this may have been a bit harsh as shje was merely the last girl to use the camera before the lens cover ceased up - I think due to salt water I had exposed it to in El Nido. Anyhow i think she is beginning to enjoy these punishment sessions.
So I was left with LF and CG1 who had also showed up to take a dip in the pool. CCG turned up whilst I was in the pool and was a little surprised to see the other girls. However I let them chat her up and soon she seemed to be getting on very well. They explained that they were bi girls and would like us all to have some fun together. She shyly agreed and we all went downstairs to my room.
There is a HUGE difference between a threesome/more some session with the typical P4P girls who are really just there to score a payday for their friend and girls who REALLY enjoy it. And its especially wonderful when a couple of relatively experienced and very enthusiastic girls set to work on a initiate to such pleasures. She ended up taking 4 rounds before she had to go home to meet her uncle's curfew.
LF (who I think needs to be renamed BiF as she has begun to take cock, now wants to introduce me t her ex girl friend. Looks pretty nice in her pics, so let's see. )[/QUOTE]May I make a statement? OH MY GOD!
You lucky devil you.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I was just browsing through a few DIA profiles and started laughing at how many women seem to list hobbies as playing volleyball and/or badminton.
I know badminton is quite popular and volleyball seems to be a nice fun thing to do but honestly. Some of these women look like they have never ever been out of a slow walk let alone playing a sport.
Most also don't have any money and it is not cheap to play badminton with any regularity. I have NEVER met any woman on DIA who played either sport.
My guess is that one women mentioned badminton or volleyball in a profile back in DIA's early days and it was copied by another woman because it sounded cool and then it was repeated exponentially.
BTW. I refuse to have anything to do with any woman who lists her hobbies as "cooking & cleaning the house". Can you believe this?
I think intelligent life on DIA is a rarity but there are some occasional diamonds with half a brain. Their profiles stand out like a dog's balls.[/QUOTE]If they were really honest quite a few should list " sleeping and doing absolute nothing all day" as hobbies.
The type who, after you have made a sweet and full introduction of yourself reply with "What? ". Have to love them. Then delete them!
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Bi Girl
[QUOTE=Red Wine]May I make a statement? OH MY GOD!
You lucky devil you.[/QUOTE]
I have decided that bi girls are definitely the way to go. If there are any decent guys here living in Cebu full time and who fancy having a Bi GF come and live with you, then she will be available in a few weeks when I go back to UK. She has problems with her mum and wants to find a guy to live with whilst finishing her college. The idea would be that you try and hunt for fun girls together - you pay the bills plus her college fees.
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My paraniod fun time :)
after my 3-day manila stay i went to ac and like you said "primusduvel" i had a bad feeling and felt like i could trust nobody after being scammed a couple times.
the very next day i had a meet up with a young looking cam girl that i planned to have fun with. i heard the stories of girls younger than 18 being in your room and having the police raid you in a scam sting so i was a little scarred.
i asked her to bring her id with her because the hotel needs to check it. they dont check id's so i asked one of the bar tenders to check it for me. it says she is 20yrs. but she is 5' 1" and weighs about 90lbs and looks like 14. lol.
i have chatted her on the internet for awhile and she is fun and wild on her cam shows and does anal fucking with a toy like a porn star. but when we wer together she was so cute and innocent looking.
we were sitting on my bed in the room for what must have been over an hour watching tv and nothing happened yet sexualy. i did not know where to start with her. she was so cute and innocent i did not know if i wanted to fuck her or buy her some candy and read her a bed time story. lol.
anyways, i had my laptop there and i know she loves to play "farmville". anyone know that online game? most of the cam girls play it when they are not fucking the shit out of themselves.
i did not want to push the sex situation with her and was still wondering if this was one of those **** scams (remembering that i can not trust anyone). so i offered for her to use my computer to go online and play. she was happy.
so she was playing farmville and doing this and that for another hour on my laptop and was not saying a word to me the whole time. i was wondering if this was going to be a complete waste of time for me and thought shit i should have never offered the laptop.lol.
so about 15 min later she was done sprucing up her farm by plowing her fields and planting crops and selling off and trading this and that.
then she closed the laptop, jumped on top of me, gave me a big kiss on the mouth and said in the cutiest little filipina accent "i love you". i just about melted. it was the cutiest thing in the world.
she then asked me if i wanted to see her body? i siad of course. she then sat up and peeled her clothes off to show off her body. it was like with a flick of the switch she turned from a 14 yr old innocent girl into a naughty 20 yr old.
she took off my pants and started to give me an amazing blowjob and the rest was history.
i still was concerned about her not being 18 and maybe this is a scam in the back of my head. those little scammers in manila were playing mind tricks on my head still.
about 3 hours later she fell a sleep and i was watching tv still. it was late at night and i heard these 2 guys in the hall way outside my room talking official like in tagalog. i heard their keys jingling on their belt and they were right at my door. i fucking jumped up and freaked out. i pulled my pants and shirt on and started looking through the peep hole expecting to see the local police.
it was only 2 maintenance workers talking about some issue with the hotel. lol. i felt relieved and went to sleep with one eye open.
ok next morning. i woke up with a hard on because there was a hot 20yr girl that looked 14 yrs old lying naked next to me in bed. we had a 2nd round of fun :)
right after the sex i rolled over and said "ahhhhhhhh". she sat up with a funny look on her face and i asked her whats wrong?? is every thing ok?? she then looked at me and with that cute little filipina accent said "my farmville"
it was the funniest thing in the world!!! i was thinking about fucking and she was thinking about her farmville crops.
we both smiled and i opened up the laptop again and she played arround for the next hour while she ate chocolates and was totally content.
i will post a couple photos of her in the photo section.
sorry for rambling on and hope my story did not bore you guys.
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6 of the best
It's been a busy few days here in Cebu.
I've now settled down with about half a dozen cuties comming and going.
A couple of days ago all 6 were here at the same time so we had a bit of a room party.
I've got a pretty decent music collection on my ipod and a buy a 2.1 speaker in Cebu to give me enough base to
have a party atmosphere. It was great fun to have 6 semi naked girls cavorting around and dancing in the mirrow.
Memories of all those clubs in London where you would queue up in the rain for 30 minutes to have the privalege of queing another hour for drinks
and where even when I was early 30s the cute chicks regarded me as some sort of child molestor were a distant memory.
It's great dancing with 6 cuties knowing that I can feed any one of them my cock whenever I felt like it. The other nice thing as that the
girl's loved it were laughing and having so much fun taking pics and videos. (But sorry i do not post pics of non pros here).
We are always looking for new (young nubile female) recruits to the gang. I invited a girl from Tagged around who has an unusual collectionof exceptionally
pretty model type picxs combined with some shots from a grungy poor background. She showed up, the girls were a bit worried that she would be a "dirty"
girl but when she arrived their eyes almost popped out she was so cute. She asked to go to the CR first and by the tikme she came out I had three girls sucking my cock in preparation. She was surprised byut not fazed by this. She lead down and the girls set to work on her, one on each boob and another licking her pussy, which she wasnt so comfortable with asking for cock pretty soon so the spare girl started kissing her. This girl really knows how to fuck with a cover girl face, perfect body 9as long as you like short girls.)
She fancies herself as a model so was keen to take pics in every position I liked alone and with the other girls. After a couple of rounds she said she needed to go but would leave her stuff and come back later. It was actualy 3 am in the morning by the time she returned and I just had one girl hee by then so she said she would bring her friend. The friend was slim and young but not nerly as cute though perfect boobs. After a session she got dressed and wanted to go, my girl accompanied her to a taxi and said she had given her the 300p change fromsome taxi money I had given her earlier. She's a ni ec girl hthough obviously more "pro" than the other girls. Shes returned once so far and said she would retun today as we are going to hold some sort of pool party/modelling session by the pool with my new HD canm corder. Who knows whetehr she will show or not. if she ins sensible she wil becaus e she is not really marketing herself properly given she has 9.5 type looks.
Some less jolly news now but Ill put that in a separate post.
GL
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Life or Death in Cebu
As I'm sure some of you know, one of the downsides of developing real friendships with the girl is that
although one gets alot of free or semi free sex, one ends up being the "lender" of last (or more often first) resort
in the case of some emergency. of course if this wa limited to one's "own" girls this would be reasonable, but it often extends to
friends and family too.
Actually I'm usually pretty hard nosed about this, but sometimes there are situation where morally one doesn't have much choice. 2 days ago the three college girls
(CG1, CG2 and BiF) had a problem because CG2's thesis partner had had a ceasure and collapsed at college. I've met this girl before and shall call her KillJoy - KJ
as she showed up at a pool party we had a few months ago and killed the atmosphere - she is fat and not good looking, and when the other girls were dancing around in bikinis kind of put a Christian dampener on affairs and ate alot of Jollybees. Anyhow her problem was that she was very pregnant. She had tried taking Cytotic a couple of times but it hadn't worked because - the other girls said - she couldn't stop eating for the necessary 6 hours. Anyhow this is especially bad news as she is at a strict Catholic college where preggie girls are expelled. So she took to wearing a corset and having "rough" massages in and effort to get rid of the baby. Because she is so fat she got away with it without the nuns suspecting.
Anyhow she got sent to hospital and the bottom line was that the docs said she must have an emergency caesarian or she and/or the baby might die. This being the Phils, they could not just operate but had to find 3000P to buy some of the necessary medicines before they would operate. By the evening when I was at dinner with the three girls her family and friends had managed to get togther 1500P but it looked like they couldn't find another 1500P that night. I'm not sure how hard they wee really trying - nobody seemed to be prepared to pawn their cell phone for example. Anyhow given that I had several times that in my pocket and wouldn't really notice had it been pickpocketed for example, I felt obliged to step up to the plate, even though the girl is a KJ. I just hope that if someday I am in deeep trouble someone I hardly know steps in. To be fair the 3 girls have been giving me a great time and also the baby is really the innocent one in all this. Anyhow by 1am she was under the knife and by morning she was conscious and sharing a hospital bed with another new mother and there was a 1.5kg baby in the incubator. Currently it looks like KJ will survive and the baby probably has a 50/50 chance. I think in the West it woukd probably be 80-90% but here the will be out of the hospital soon and have no money. The College has agreed to pay 25% of the surgery/delivery costs but the family will have to find the rest somehow. She will be expelled from college, and CG2 is going to have to figure out how to get buy without a thesis partner. I had assumed that such a small (7 months) baby had no chance in the Phils, but BiF is hopeful. She said that she herself was also born 2 months premature after a failed abortion attempt at less than 4 lbs and she said the baby looks healthy apart from a weak heart and seems like a "fighter". Time will tell.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]As I'm sure some of you know, one of the downsides of developing real friendships with the girl is that although one gets alot of free or semi free sex, one ends up being the "lender" of last (or more often first) resort in the case of some emergency. Of course if this wa limited to one's "own" girls this would be reasonable, but it often extends to friends and family too.
Actually I'm usually pretty hard nosed about this, but sometimes there are situation where morally one doesn't have much choice. 2 days ago the three college girls (CG1, CG2 and BiF) had a problem because CG2's thesis partner had had a ceasure and collapsed at college. I've met this girl before and shall call her KillJoy. KJ as she showed up at a pool party we had a few months ago and killed the atmosphere. She is fat and not good looking, and when the other girls were dancing around in bikinis kind of put a Christian dampener on affairs and ate alot of Jollybees. Anyhow her problem was that she was very pregnant. She had tried taking Cytotic a couple of times but it hadn't worked because. The other girls said. She couldn't stop eating for the necessary 6 hours. Anyhow this is especially bad news as she is at a strict Catholic college where preggie girls are expelled. So she took to wearing a corset and having "rough" massages in and effort to get rid of the baby. Because she is so fat she got away with it without the nuns suspecting.
Anyhow she got sent to hospital and the bottom line was that the docs said she must have an emergency caesarian or she and/or the baby might die. This being the Phils, they could not just operate but had to find 3000P to buy some of the necessary medicines before they would operate. By the evening when I was at dinner with the three girls her family and friends had managed to get togther 1500P but it looked like they couldn't find another 1500P that night. I'm not sure how hard they wee really trying. Nobody seemed to be prepared to pawn their cell phone for example. Anyhow given that I had several times that in my pocket and wouldn't really notice had it been pickpocketed for example, I felt obliged to step up to the plate, even though the girl is a KJ. I just hope that if someday I am in deeep trouble someone I hardly know steps in. To be fair the 3 girls have been giving me a great time and also the baby is really the innocent one in all this. Anyhow by 1am she was under the knife and by morning she was conscious and sharing a hospital bed with another new mother and there was a 1. 5kg baby in the incubator. Currently it looks like KJ will survive and the baby probably has a 50/50 chance. I think in the West it woukd probably be 80-90% but here the will be out of the hospital soon and have no money. The College has agreed to pay 25% of the surgery/delivery costs but the family will have to find the rest somehow. She will be expelled from college, and CG2 is going to have to figure out how to get buy without a thesis partner. I had assumed that such a small (7 months) baby had no chance in the Phils, but BiF is hopeful. She said that she herself was also born 2 months premature after a failed abortion attempt at less than 4 lbs and she said the baby looks healthy apart from a weak heart and seems like a "fighter". Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Sad news indeed. I will be in Cebu for a few days next month. If there's any way that I can help out. Let me know.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I meant exclusively DIA filipinas who say they play badminton and volleyball.
other neighboring countries have many more facilities to play these sports.
Very few women in the Philippines are physically active. I am a member of Fitness First and go to the gym every day in Manila and believe me, there are a few hot bodies around but the majority are way overweight. That's why I laugh at how many list these sports as their hobbies.
I am sure it is "in the mind" only.[/QUOTE]
They have in mind their childhood and P.E. in school. Maybe the occasional beach party. But not serious games.
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[QUOTE=Suwon]Sad news indeed. I will be in Cebu for a few days next month. If there's any way that I can help out. Let me know.[/QUOTE]
Many thanks for your offer Suwon. It looks as though the mum is out of the danger zone and will survive. The daughter, who has been named "Alphabet" - no idea why - is still alive but struggling with a weak heart and there are issues with feeding, the mother has no milk as it was an early caesarian so they are relying on the kindness of another new mum to share her milk. if she is still with us by the time you get here I'm sure any help you can offer would be deeply appreciated.
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Greg,
It sounds like all is getting better there. I would like offer my services to keep the Bi Girls busy while Suwon nurses the mom back to health. Yes I know it does not sound fair but Suwon can make it up to me later.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Many thanks for your offer Suwon. It looks as though the mum is out of the danger zone and will survive. The daughter, who has been named "Alphabet" - no idea why - is still alive but struggling with a weak heart and there are issues with feeding, the mother has no milk as it was an early caesarian so they are relying on the kindness of another new mum to share her milk. if she is still with us by the time you get here I'm sure any help you can offer would be deeply appreciated.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Greg,
It sounds like all is getting better there. I would like offer my services to keep the Bi Girls busy while Suwon nurses the mom back to health. Yes I know it does not sound fair but Suwon can make it up to me later.[/QUOTE]Tally Wacker,
You're a generous bloke. But with 24 hours in a day. And plenty to go around. I am sure that we can work something out! I think a little bit of mongering. A little bit of doing a good deed. And a little bit of bi-girls. Can make a fella well rounded and quite satisfied!
I guess I'd have to buy you a beer though!
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I haven't been impressed with the ones I found in the Malls in Cebu. They seemed to be 600P + and a minimum medium fit so they look too big on petite girls.
I recently got my girls in Palawan to buy 5 from NCCC at 139P each and post them to Cebu by LBC (costs about 150P for next day delivery.)
They are cheap and cheerful but look pretty good on a petite girl.
[url]http://riffyjean.weebly.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
GL
Will try this place also, WW are exquisite IMHO and my cebu girl does enjoy chosing from the web site...and she has the same tastes as me including the see through mesh shorts :)...for her not me :)
But as you said, only for slim ladies......
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I don't remember the exact topic of the original post, but one shop that has some fairly sexy clothing was Salad Dressing on the ground floor of Cebu SM. Nothing too outragous, bikinis, hot hot pants, and they even had naughty school girl outfits. X
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]GL
Will try this place also, WW are exquisite IMHO and my cebu girl does enjoy chosing from the web site...and she has the same tastes as me including the see through mesh shorts :)...for her not me :)
But as you said, only for slim ladies......[/QUOTE]
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Tanduay Ice
The partying continues at chez GregLondon. Yesterday we gained a new recruit to the gang. I'm probably way behind the curve on this one as I'm not a big drinker personally but if you really want to get a party swinging stock up on some Tanduay Ice (the local alcopop). It's a very reasonable 20P a bottle and to my mind tastes rather good. Depending on how much drinking your girls have done before 1 -5 bottles is enough to get them very uninhibited indeed.
Anyhow the evening kicked off with a "punishment" session for BB18 on the somewhat flimsy grounds that had had been robbed of the modest amount of money i had given her the previous night by some hoodlums in Colon. She's actually a really honest girl though she's unbelievably and funnily non PC and when she was younger (about 14-16) was part of a notorious gang. She didn't exaggerate the amount that was stolen and when i offered to replace it twice insisted that I shouldn't because it was her fault, getting out of the jeep in Colon.
Anyhow the "punishment" session consisted of being held down (with the help of PG (now 8.5 months preg) sitting on her legs, me scooping chocolate fudge ice cream on her boobs and belly button and occasionally mouth - just to keep her quiet - it was agreed that this time the "crime" was not serious enough to warrant vaginal ice cream, with BiF and CG2 licking the ice cream off her body, whilst I took pics.
A girl I recently met who - not unreasonably - fancies herself as a model (so will call her MOD) had come around for an earlier session during the day, and said she would also come around for an evening session. She wanted to take pics in the pool area. At just 36kg, even the small bikinis I had bought looked a bit big so she said she would prefer to go topless. (the security guards watching the security camera must have had a nice evening. She is really photogenic and an excellent poser so I've got some nice images. I don't usually post pics as most of my girls are very nervous re their college situation but I'll ask her if she objects to afew being posted as she is a shamless self publicist.
Somewhat surprisingly given that she is quiet sexually experienced adn uninhibited on cam, she doesn't drink at all so was a little intimidated when the party back in my room was in full swing. We realxed on my bed, whilst BB18, CG2, BiF and CCG with PG as DJ ramped up the music and started dancing on the chairs and taking off more and more clothes in a bump and grind lesbioan dancing session. This got me very horny so I indicated that I wanted another round with MOD, she nodded but whispered could we ask CG2 to join us whilst the other three continued the dance show, so CG2 attended to her boobs whilst she impaled herself on my cock.
Actually CG2 was her second choice and we had been waiting for CG1 who was late because she too had had her money pickpocketed and thus couldn't get a taxi. By the time CG1 arrived MOD and I were checking through the pics whilst the other girls, who had in some cases only a few days ago insisted that they didn't like other girls were busy deeply snogging each other. MOD having taken 3 rounds today, insisted that it was CG1's turn to take cock which she duely did assisted by MOD, CG2 and BiF. MOD then showed us her various privatye photos on facebook and also those of her modelling friends who also seemed very cute. She said she had never been in this sort of situation before and that she would see if some of her modelling freinds wanted to come along and meet the girls. We will see.
FYI MOD is ideally looking for a guy to live with on a I'll be faithful to him but it's OK if he has other girls type basis, if he supports me through college type basis. Actually she is rather bright as well as ultra cute, slim and petite, so this may well be feasible. She's also keen to pursue her photo model career. if there are any horny photographers out there who want to spend some time with a very pretty girl who adores posing I guess she's available, she would be ideal for such a guy to take to Boracay/El Nido for a combined photography/sex holiday. But I think I'll only be divulging her contact details once I've left Phils LOL.
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[QUOTE=X Man]I don't remember the exact topic of the original post, but one shop that has some fairly sexy clothing was Salad Dressing on the ground floor of Cebu SM. Nothing too outragous, bikinis, hot hot pants, and they even had naughty school girl outfits. X[/QUOTE]
Thanks X Man.
Left you a text message seems a good idea.....
GL Nice FR see you soon also....;
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Are letters from Russians ever worth reading?
Are there any legitimate Russian/Ukrainians on CherryBlossom? I blocked Nigeria long ago, and I don't introduce myself to European women, but I get a few introductions a week from Russia and the Ukrainian almost all of whom are 26-30 years old 5'6-5'7" 115-125lbs and almost all following the same pattern- ask for your email in the first letter, send pics & form letters, never have chat systems or cams.
Now I have received intros from women in their late 30's or 40's with kids that seemed real, and on rare occasions get a note from a hot but rather crazy 20-somthings but 90% under 35 seem not to be legit. Is this the case for most men over 40 on cb? or am I missing something about the pattern for online dating in Eastern Europe?
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Date in Asia DIA -- Cebu ladies
Since DIA allows only one picture, it is wise to check the ladies out on cam or find other pictures. Sometimes they have Friendster, FB, or Tagged profiles with pictures.
I'm not very good about following this advice. I really hit it lucky with a DIA contact in Cebu last year. Unfortunately, my lack of planning has come back to bite me in the ass this time.
The worse one was the 77lb lass who turned out to be a hefer.
Another was cute, but heavy in the rear. She brought along a real cow who spent most of the lunch checking her phone and eating her french fries.
One couldn't speak English but she brought along her very cute cousin. I later had a date with the cousin, but it would take a lot of time and effort to get into her panties. If I lived in Cebu I would defintely persue her.
An older one which I thought would be a sure thing, most certainly was. Although when I got into her panties I discovered things were a little bloody.
Today's meeting was rather productive. She was a pimply 21 yr old, but she came alone and was sporting a very ample chest. She was quiet and didn't have any ideas about what to do. So I did what I wanted to do. I took her to my room and gave her a good hump. Took a rest and then climbed back on only to find a bloody mess after the second round.
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This raises an interesting question..
Like X Man, I found DIA to be somewhat productive, but not totally satisfying. The girl I arranged to see was pretty good in bed, but loved to watch TV and had almost nothing to say. I cannot complain, since she swallowed. :-)
The question is this: what aspect of the profile should indicate to the average mongerer that the DIA girl is going to be an easy, GFE fuck?
What should we look for in deciding whom we should go ahead and date?
And, in setting up our encounter, what questions should we ask, and what types of answers to these questions should we expect?
I believe that there are many many people on this web site who could give great insite into this. GregLondon, for example?
I have RTFF, and yet I am still not certain how to proceed. Maybe I should stick to Brazil and the DR, where I understand the culture inside and out. On the other hand, those pinays are sooooooooo sexy. When I visited Manila two years ago, my DIA chick was certainly lovely and reasonably willing. But, I think I could have done better.
Let's here from you experienced guys, PLEASE!!!
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[QUOTE=X Man]Since DIA allows only one picture, it is wise to check the ladies out on cam or find other pictures. Sometimes they have Friendster, FB, or Tagged profiles with pictures.
I'm not very good about following this advice. I really hit it lucky with a DIA contact in Cebu last year. Unfortunately, my lack of planning has come back to bite me in the ass this time.
The worse one was the 77lb lass who turned out to be a hefer.
Another was cute, but heavy in the rear. She brought along a real cow who spent most of the lunch checking her phone and eating her french fries.
One couldn't speak English but she brought along her very cute cousin. I later had a date with the cousin, but it would take a lot of time and effort to get into her panties. If I lived in Cebu I would defintely persue her.
An older one which I thought would be a sure thing, most certainly was. Although when I got into her panties I discovered things were a little bloody.
Today's meeting was rather productive. She was a pimply 21 yr old, but she came alone and was sporting a very ample chest. She was quiet and didn't have any ideas about what to do. So I did what I wanted to do. I took her to my room and gave her a good hump. Took a rest and then climbed back on only to find a bloody mess after the second round.
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[QUOTE=Forest]........
The question is this: what aspect of the profile should indicate to the average mongerer that the DIA girl is going to be an easy, GFE fuck?
What should we look for in deciding whom we should go ahead and date?
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Forrest - the problems you had are the same problems we all have.
There is no specific "code" for discerning whether the woman is just looking for sex or is looking for a long-term hubby. Some guys reckoned that "open-minded" was code for anything goes, but we also know that most women just read and copy other profiles that they think sound nice.
I hate reading "my hobbies are cooking and cleaning the house", or "accept me for who or what I am".
I have been tracking DIA for 3 years. My results are exactly the same as yours. You win some and you lose some, but you definitely should chat before you meet.
And, most importantly, always meet first time in a public place, like a mall or coffee shop. If she turns out to be a fraud (ie picture taken 10 years ago) and/or a scammer, you can leave her after a short time. Not so easy to do if she is in your room or she knows where you are staying.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]There is no specific "code" for discerning whether the woman is just looking for sex or is looking for a long-term hubby.[/QUOTE]
For real. I have met girls with good jobs who acted shy and did not want me to touch them. And I have met working girls who didn't want to stop fucking me. I've met girls living in slums act haughty and insulted if I rubbed their leg, so go figure.
And it does not seem to help at all chatting over long periods. If you want to be a shameless horn dog you can try this, after chatting some time say something like "you know, if I meet you and I like you, I will want to take you to bed. I'm sorry, I may not be able to help myself, you're so sweet" (see how that flies, worked for me several times)
One sure way of knowing (sort of). If they had Western BF before (or still!), they will be good to go (probably). If they show you their pic wearing bikini, sure. If they admit they are not virgin--no not sure at all. They may have been 'victims' of a local boy, and therefore focused on finding a 'nice' man.
Goes without saying, and its said often, the ones that are focused on you sending some money, just dump them. Save your money for the ones who perform! I send some load at times to girls I am interested in.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Forrest. The problems you had are the same problems we all have.
There is no specific "code" for discerning whether the woman is just looking for sex or is looking for a long-term hubby. Some guys reckoned that "open-minded" was code for anything goes, but we also know that most women just read and copy other profiles that they think sound nice.
I hate reading "my hobbies are cooking and cleaning the house", or "accept me for who or what I am".
I have been tracking DIA for 3 years. My results are exactly the same as yours. You win some and you lose some, but you definitely should chat before you meet.
And, most importantly, always meet first time in a public place, like a mall or coffee shop. If she turns out to be a fraud (ie picture taken 10 years ago) and/or a scammer, you can leave her after a short time. Not so easy to do if she is in your room or she knows where you are staying.[/QUOTE]Chat and if theres some chemistry and a sense of fun and humour, then all should be ok. Chat with cam but make sure you look good and neat, no need to scare them off.
Let them do the running, quite often the ones interested in you will ask what you are wearing etc. Listen to all the hints and have chatting fun,
Then when you meet you already have a foundation and she knows your a fun and funny guy. The girls that can only reply " Ok " " Up to you " " what you want" are not the ones you want. If you can't talk to the girl, imagine how dull and dreary the sex will be.
Take the time to sift thru the wheat chaff and whatever else there is. Send sweet little texts before your trip, they love it. Tell her you will bring choccies, but manage to forget (Sorry, I left them on the plane!) instead bring sexy panties. At least thats my MO and it works without fail!
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]There is no specific "code" for discerning whether the woman is just looking for sex or is looking for a long-term hubby. Some guys reckoned that "open-minded" was code for anything goes, but we also know that most women just read and copy other profiles that they think sound nice.
You win some and you lose some, but you definitely should chat before you meet.
And, most importantly, always meet first time in a public place, like a mall or coffee shop. If she turns out to be a fraud (ie picture taken 10 years ago) and/or a scammer, you can leave her after a short time. Not so easy to do if she is in your room or she knows where you are staying.[/QUOTE]
I agree with RK: There is no full-proof way in advance to know without doubt that the date will end, er, climactically! However, as committed mongers, if we develop our intuition and sussing skills, as well as our intercultural awareness, I venture there is a much stronger likelihood of the proverbial happy ending.
It's worth keeping in mind that as an SE Asian country, the Philippines is a 'Face' culture; This means that maintaining and/or avoiding the loss of face is a strongly enculturated feature of everyday life here. In short, what you see and hear is not always what you get. The more we develop our skills in discerning and appropriately responding to our gal's face saving/maintaining words and actions, the happier (and more secure) they will feel and the more pleasure they will provide.
On a more practical note... I have dated lots of DIA gals and I have found that if I set an evening date with a gal, there seems to be a strong correlation between the distance she lives from the center of town (or my place) and the likelihood she will spend the night with me nestling naked in my arms (cf my post on DIA first date). In fact, there have been times when I have had the choice of two different DIA gals for an evening date, and other things (looks, age, etc.) being relatively equal, I have deliberately chosen the gal who lives further afield, knowing (or at least surmising) that at the end of the evening she will come up with some lovely face-saving hint that it is now too late for her to be able to get home, at which point I chivalrously offer her a night's rest in my humble abode. Works (amost) every time!
Manta Ray
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Greg London is busy at the moment,
I just returned from Phil and have been back in California for 2 weeks. I was having withdrawls from lack of filipinas so I was chatting some girls on DIA from Cebu. I told her I was staying at a local hotel in Cebu.
Our conversation moved to YM and she was chatting me in her bra and panties. I asked her if she wanted to come and stay with me for a week and Fuck? She said sure but what about me? I said I would take care of her. She was happy. She gave me a little sexy dance in her panties. I was excited but upset I could not follow up on the deal.
I messaged Greg as I know he is in Cebu now. I forwarded the DIA info on this hot filipina and suggested he message her and give her a try.
A few min later Greg messaged me and said the same girl is here in his bed and she was chatting me from his computer. lol
He was not joking she was really there with two other girls. It was so fuckin funny :) I told him to tell the girl i was just fuckin arround and i was not going to txt her later.
Your right just ask Greg the guys a master.
[QUOTE=Forest]I believe that there are many many people on this web site who could give great insite into this. GregLondon, for example?
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Almost all scammers
[QUOTE=Sojourner]Are there any legitimate Russian/Ukrainians on CherryBlossom? I blocked Nigeria long ago, and I don't introduce myself to European women, but I get a few introductions a week from Russia and the Ukrainian almost all of whom are 26-30 years old 5'6-5'7" 115-125lbs and almost all following the same pattern- ask for your email in the first letter, send pics & form letters, never have chat systems or cams.
Now I have received intros from women in their late 30's or 40's with kids that seemed real, and on rare occasions get a note from a hot but rather crazy 20-somthings but 90% under 35 seem not to be legit. Is this the case for most men over 40 on cb? or am I missing something about the pattern for online dating in Eastern Europe?
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On Blossoms I would say over 95% of Russians and E Europeans are scammers
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Pretty funny
Yes it was kind of spooky, that i was being relayed info across the pacific about a girl who was sitting in my room LOL
Actually if you are thinking of having loads of girls hang out in your room a second laptop such as a netbook is a great investment as it means the girls can check their web sites and the likes whilst I read stuff on my computer
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Greg London is busy at the moment,
I just returned from Phil and have been back in California for 2 weeks. I was having withdrawls from lack of filipinas so I was chatting some girls on DIA from Cebu. I told her I was staying at a local hotel in Cebu.
Our conversation moved to YM and she was chatting me in her bra and panties. I asked her if she wanted to come and stay with me for a week and Fuck? She said sure but what about me? I said I would take care of her. She was happy. She gave me a little sexy dance in her panties. I was excited but upset I could not follow up on the deal.
I messaged Greg as I know he is in Cebu now. I forwarded the DIA info on this hot filipina and suggested he message her and give her a try.
A few min later Greg messaged me and said the same girl is here in his bed and she was chatting me from his computer. lol
He was not joking she was really there with two other girls. It was so fuckin funny :) I told him to tell the girl i was just fuckin arround and i was not going to txt her later.
Your right just ask Greg the guys a master.[/QUOTE]
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Wheat from Chaf
[QUOTE=Forest]Like X Man, I found DIA to be somewhat productive, but not totally satisfying. The girl I arranged to see was pretty good in bed, but loved to watch TV and had almost nothing to say. I cannot complain, since she swallowed. :-)
The question is this: what aspect of the profile should indicate to the average mongerer that the DIA girl is going to be an easy, GFE fuck?
What should we look for in deciding whom we should go ahead and date?
And, in setting up our encounter, what questions should we ask, and what types of answers to these questions should we expect?
I believe that there are many many people on this web site who could give great insite into this. GregLondon, for example?
I have RTFF, and yet I am still not certain how to proceed. Maybe I should stick to Brazil and the DR, where I understand the culture inside and out. On the other hand, those pinays are sooooooooo sexy. When I visited Manila two years ago, my DIA chick was certainly lovely and reasonably willing. But, I think I could have done better.
Let's here from you experienced guys, PLEASE!!!
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As others have said separating the wheat from the chaf is not at all easy on DIA/CB etc. If someone claims to have a 99% success ratio (as did a poster a few weeks ago) treat such claims as akin to Saddam Hussein's 99.9% of people voted for him claims.
One can talk about various indicators but you will always get dealt wild cards. Girls that look very unpromising but turn out to be gems and vice versa. For those of us with plenty of time here, it's all part of the fun, but if you have saved hard for a short trip it's obviously frustrating.
Speaking for myself I prefer 18-23 year old girls without a baby, slim , cute and fluent in English with a nice personality, non bar girls and and open to almost immediate unlimited sex. I'm not focussed on "no condoms", "anal", "spanking", "big boobs", "CIM", or various other things that some guys focus on. However I do have a highly multi girl lifestyle so its important that they are happy about having other naked girls around and joining in threesomes or moresomes.
For my demographic, the first thing I look out for is some beyond high school education. I have a few high school only girls but typically their English is not so strong (as English is only used consistently at school when they go to college). I find the best targets are "working students" or those struggling to pay their fees. Sadly what the girl actually says in her profile is not often very useful. Girls often say what they think guys want to hear. The majority of the girls with very "open minded let's have fun / sexy photo" type profiles are either scammers or camgirls or fairly professional girls with premium rate expectations. What you are really looking for are girls who are "looking for Mr Right" but also leaving open the possibility of fun in the meantime. Girls who manage to write something which balances these two goals are pretty few and far between so you probably have to mass mail most of the girls that meet your physical criteria and see who takes the bait. My strategy is to be very upfront in terms of what im looking for whilst remaining polite and respectful. If you say something like that you are looking for someone "open minded re sex" or "passionate in bed" it should do the trick. I'm sure I lose quite a few good prospects like that but I also save alot of time with false leads. If at all possible I prefer girls who are willing to meet at my hotel. Opinions differ on this as some prefer a nearby mall but I hate the waiting around this inevitably involves.
Sometimes one has to cut a girl a little slack and see what happens. A case in point was a girl I met two days ago who I had been texting on and off for ages but who held out against coming to the hotel to meet. She eventually said she would meet in Robinsons so as I was going there I agreed. She turned up with a great figure and cute enough face. She was kind of hard going and a bit full of herself, at one stage i almost decided to give up on her. Unusually she insisted on paying her part of the bill and seemed to have much more attitude than typical Filipinas. After a bit it emerged that she had a Canadian BF of several years standing who had bought her property etc and was bank rolling her but had returned to his country for a few months. She agreed to come back to my hotel only when I assured her that there would be several other girls there. Usually I have the opposite problem and girls are rather disconcerted when I inform them there may be other scantily clad cuties in the room. She was excited but rather shy. My girls made her feel very comfortable and she said she was willing to try something if she had enough to drink. Eventually she was naked in my arms whilst one of my girls licked her pussy and the other kissed her boobs and lips. She said it was the first time for any girl on girl action and after all the hesitating and taking more drink she was soon writhing around in ecstasy. After the girls had got her super horny I filled her with cock which made her gasp with pleasure and we had a great time. She refused to take any money even for her taxi and the girls have an open invitation to come and visit her at her beach place whilst her BF is away.
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I guess everyone will have a different answer, so I hope others post.
I find being naughty in a joking way breaks the ice. One girl explicity wrote "no perverts". I replied that I'm a pervert only some of the time. She replied. Questions like 'are you free to travel', "do you have a bikini', "where is your boyfriend" often will give you some hints about where the girl is coming from.
"where is your bf" is especially useful with younger ones to determine if she has been deflowered. BTW, there is a real stunner at Viking right now, 20, who is "cherry". She goes to school part time for mechanical engineering.
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[QUOTE=Forest]What should we look for in deciding whom we should go ahead and date?
And, in setting up our encounter, what questions should we ask, and what types of answers to these questions should we expect?
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"Accept me as I am"
No doubt we have all heard this time and again and thought its what girls say to us ( men). Well, its an oft repeated phrase when girls also seeking girls.
Under Decent Lesbian Looking
[quote]I want a discreet relationship.{ if okay if not I am doubt to commit}
Educated is must.
And she understands me and she accept me as what I am.[/quote]Or we' re also all familiar with girls saying they looking for an American etc.
Well heres an interesting reversal
[quote]I'm 50, Single white American woman looking for a Filipino wife. I want a lesbian wife to love me and take care of me. I need a honest loving woman to be my mate.
Age 25-50 would be wonderful. If we got married, I would provide a home, car, education and more even A US Citizenship. So to keep scammers and hookers away,
THE RULES ARE THIS, YOU PAY FOR YOU OWN WAY HERE TO THE USA UNDER TRAVEL VISA AND IF YOU AND I CLICK, WE CAN GET
MARRIED HERE, AS ITS LEGAL TO MARRY ANOTHER WOMAN NOW. SO COME BE MY WIFE. if things worked out, maybe we could bring the family
to live with us.
KISSES
DANIELLE SAN DIEGO CALIFORNIA.[/quote]Guess the girls approach isnt that much differrent to ours.
Being fond of dressing my girls up in high heels and stocking this lady seems like my female counterpart....
[quote]hi, im a 40 y.o. european lesbian, and i will be in the philippines this coming month of august. im looking for a girlfriend, lesbian, or even just curious girl to pamper. i am a generous type, i prefer very young girls. you should be very oral, affectionate and not shy, i love to go shopping with you and dress you up very sexy, high heels, stockings.. so no butch type please.i am very willing to support and pamper you in any way, and i love to do that. no guys please.. sorry[/quote]Taken from CL.
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[QUOTE=X Man]I guess everyone will have a different answer, so I hope others post.
I find being naughty in a joking way breaks the ice. One girl explicity wrote "no perverts". I replied that I'm a pervert only some of the time. She replied. Questions like 'are you free to travel', "do you have a bikini', "where is your boyfriend" often will give you some hints about where the girl is coming from.
"where is your bf" is especially useful with younger ones to determine if she has been deflowered. BTW, there is a real stunner at Viking right now, 20, who is "cherry". She goes to school part time for mechanical engineering.
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GL and XM make good points. Having a conversation for me is very important as I dont shag them 24/7. Extras for me (or variety LOL) can be good as well so mild bondage etc can be raised in the chat. I tell the girls after some horseplay that I know Tagalog/Visayan and then impress them with a few choice nice words/sentences then the very naughty ones (sometimes including the equivalent of "am a horny toad" and "I want to take your ass")
They either laugh and then it breaks the monotony of boring questions or turn off. If latter I dont worry too much.
But making them smile and laugh is important for those I see, chat etc. Gets them relaxed and even if they know you are a tad wicked like me it helps
Slim, 18-23, college girls as GL says are also for me the best as they usually have had a guy before and that makes it all the better.
XMan - maybe will go Vikings tomororw night after one of GL's ladies has visited to meet my cebu fav who knows her well and are 'friends' - GL did she really write that text message or were you coaxing her while in the shower with one of your girls. Looking forward to tomorrow.
Cherry....I like a challenge, will see if Miss A can get the truth. Also Asian Flava and Flux Ice maybe in tow...AF just wrecked his bedroom with 'Am' and FI is going strong with another DIA friend of mine - well 3 when I visited his room a while back (and his own from FH).
Me...well spanking, bondage, schoolie uniforms, CIM and greek...another boring day in the life of WR..and my WW g strings etc have arrived in time ..life is grand
RK and MR - good thing she has wash days in her college schedule as the uniforms need a clean, thank goodness for the hotel laundry
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Pleased to say that my DIA adventures have improved remarkably since my earlier post and I'm off to Moalboal with a 40kg edition of Filipina nurse.
WR thanks for the phone number you gave me, although I didn't call it. Instead I went to the bar to have a look, but couldn't find the lass. There was a gal at that bar. Maybe 'charity'. That had the same physical attributes that you described. There really are several stunners there and at Viking. Anyway, I have an early flight out of Cebu on Aug 3.
Oh, and side note. Juliana's at 2. 3:30am. I bumped into four bar girls I had met earlier in the night at the bars and a few others that looked familiar. Two were from the overpriced KTV on Mango (where they occasionally get topless). I won't say the name of any of the bars in order to superficially protect the not-so-innocent.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger] SNIPO
XMan - maybe will go Vikings tomororw night after one of GL's ladies has visited to meet my cebu fav who knows her well and are 'friends' - GL did she really write that text message or were you coaxing her while in the shower with one of your girls. SNIP
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MFC Girls
I was wondering how many people here look at MFC. A few MFC girls have offered to show me around or want to meet with me. I'm VERY leery because of the appearance of a few of the girls. Strangely, the girls that want me to meet them aren't asking for money on the side, or asking for 'tokens'. (Only time seems to be when their far away from their quota and the cam-period is ending.)
There are 1-2 I am just really asking for advice on.
Miss J likes to just chat and talk about a few things. I get to know things about her and she doesn't bother asking me for tokens. I ask if she would want to come to US, and she says "No". Then one day in her 'room', I see what looks like a School Uniform. Should I avoid? Are there really 19-20 yo going to HS in Phili? Or should I avoid those like what I feel they might be.
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Miss T though is my biggest confusion. We've been chatting for a while, and she has yet to ask me for money. When I actually ask HER if I she wants me to send her money, she says "no" or asks for "one peso". What to me is more surprisingly is how she acts in MFC also. If you didn't know, there is a 'Private show' that you can do with girls where so you can watch them and many girls are willing to do things in Private that they wouldn't do in "Public". She has repeated denied my requests to take her to Private saying "she is shy" around me, and doesn't like it when I'm in the chat room and another member tips her and she show things. She's teaching me phrases in Tagalog and other things about her culture. Just recently, she told me "She didn't like me" and when asking the reason why. She said it was "Because I'm Trash" (not me, but HER). I managed to get her to change her mind so we can be friends. But. Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money. OR has a cam-girl fallen for me? (Hate to say it, but I also seem to fall for her also.)
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[QUOTE=DT Looker]I was wondering how many people here look at MFC. A few MFC girls have offered to show me around or want to meet with me. I'm VERY leery because of the appearance of a few of the girls. Strangely, the girls that want me to meet them aren't asking for money on the side, or asking for 'tokens'. (Only time seems to be when their far away from their quota and the cam-period is ending.)
There are 1-2 I am just really asking for advice on.
Miss J likes to just chat and talk about a few things. I get to know things about her and she doesn't bother asking me for tokens. I ask if she would want to come to US, and she says "No". Then one day in her 'room', I see what looks like a School Uniform. Should I avoid? Are there really 19-20 yo going to HS in Phili? Or should I avoid those like what I feel they might be.
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Miss T though is my biggest confusion. We've been chatting for a while, and she has yet to ask me for money. When I actually ask HER if I she wants me to send her money, she says "no" or asks for "one peso". What to me is more surprisingly is how she acts in MFC also. If you didn't know, there is a 'Private show' that you can do with girls where so you can watch them and many girls are willing to do things in Private that they wouldn't do in "Public". She has repeated denied my requests to take her to Private saying "she is shy" around me, and doesn't like it when I'm in the chat room and another member tips her and she show things. She's teaching me phrases in Tagalog and other things about her culture. Just recently, she told me "She didn't like me" and when asking the reason why. She said it was "Because I'm Trash" (not me, but HER). I managed to get her to change her mind so we can be friends. But. Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money. OR has a cam-girl fallen for me? (Hate to say it, but I also seem to fall for her also.)[/QUOTE]
girls can have missed a year amnd still be at high school after 18 but more probably you were seeinga college uniform. the college uniforms look like HS uniforms and the girls can be 17-25
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[QUOTE=DT Looker].......... But. Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money. OR has a cam-girl fallen for me? (Hate to say it, but I also seem to fall for her also.)[/QUOTE]
Be careful DTL. She is grooming you very slowly and surely, with Tagalog lessons and no talk about money, and she is not rushing it so as to ensure you fall into her trap.
I am still dumbfounded by anyone who "falls in love" on websites/chat sites. Recently I was asked to 'counsel" a work colleague's daughter because this guy (from Canada) who she had been chatting with for more than a year and who had promised her the world suddenly dumped her. They had never met in person.
She was bawling her eyes out to me with crap like "I love him soooo much" and "I know he loved me too". I took a lot of time and effort to try to convince her that you cannot know ANYONE until, at the very least, you meet in person AND spend time together. You still will not know everything about each other that you need to know. As for adding "love" to the situation, forget it. Filipinas love everything (ice cream, romantic movies, Justin Bieber etc). I showed her that she was seduced by the IDEA of having a foreigner boyfriend and all the riches and promises that were contained therein.
So DTL, my comments pertain to you too. The girls know very well that any guy who will spend money to chat with a cam girl will also be a sitting shot once she gets you groomed and under her spell. She is probably doing the same lines with a lot of other guys too.
If you really want a filipina, come to the Philippines and meet as many as it takes.
Cam girls are not a good basis to form opinions about filipinas in general.
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I have chatted many Cam Girls and 99% of them are full of shit and they have a bag full of stories they come up with for different reasons.
Is your Cam Girl making up an elaborate story? Well they work 10 hrs a Day for 6 Days a Week in a little room in front of a computer so they have alot time on their hands and can get desperate.
Many of the Cam Girls are on a very short leash and the Manager / Owner of the Cam is right over their shoulder directing them exactly what to say. Some of the girls are not even the ones typing back to you and its the Manager you are speaking with.
This does not mean all Cam Girls are full of shit and liars. I am friends with 3 or 4 cam girls and spent fun times with them when I went to AC recently. They did not ask or expect money from me and the Sex was great.
Like another member said just go to Phil and enjoy the filipinas in person. If you are still chating with your Cam Girl at that time maybe you can meet up with her and have some fun. They all like to get away from the Cam work and go swimming, eat and get their brains fucked out.
Just dont fall for stories that end with them asking for money. There are honest sincere filipinas that wont ask you for anything even if they are dirt poor. They may even be shy accepting your help and gifts. If you find a girl like this shes a keeper.
[QUOTE=DT Looker]Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DT Looker]She's teaching me phrases in Tagalog and other things about her culture. Just recently, she told me "She didn't like me" and when asking the reason why. She said it was "Because I'm Trash" (not me, but HER). I managed to get her to change her mind so we can be friends. But. Do guys usually get this kind of drama from a 'normal cam-girl'. I keep hearing pitfalls about falling in love with a 'cam-girl' and all. We haven't even MET yet. But either this is one of the most elaborate ways to try and get me to send her money. OR has a cam-girl fallen for me? (Hate to say it, but I also seem to fall for her also.)[/QUOTE]It is all part of their genetically encoded system to psychologically make you believe that you are being good to her and you are changing here .. wait till the Blades drop - when you have been caught hook, line and sinker .. :D :D
My 2 cents.
There is no such thing as NORMAL CAM GIRLS - Normal girls don't cam.
The rest are all out to show what they are not made of to take what you have .. if that makes sense
Cheers
PS: your first posting ?? Hope you took some time to read up the previous posts ...
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Plenty of Phils girls in their 20s...
...go back to high school. Maybe they had to quit for a few years and go to work. Or maybe they got pregnant as a teenager and had to drop out for a few years, and are just now going back.
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Found it interesting....
Well thanks for the advice, although I'm really wondering about it now. I offered to send money, and still told me 'No'. Apparently she was 'not at quota', and STILL refused for me to take her to Private Show, and asked if I could leave the chat room. Where she would then undress and do other things. (I have ways of watching.) She doesn't seem shy to anyone else BUT me. Its a little frustrating since all these other guys get to see her body (officially), but me.
If she is setting me up for a big haul it sure seems like one weird way. Still refusing to take my money. Refusing for me to see her body. I'd think by now even a money grubber would want to take the tokens since she was so behind on her quota.
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I have chatted many Cam Girls and 99% of them are full of shit and they have a bag full of stories they come up with for different reasons.
Is your Cam Girl making up an elaborate story? Well they work 10 hrs a Day for 6 Days a Week in a little room in front of a computer so they have alot time on their hands and can get desperate.[/QUOTE]I have yet to see a work-a-holic cam girl. The few I know began work with a manager (and without their parents knowledge of what they did) and perhaps worked 5 hours per day (though there are certainly many that seem to work 24/7). When they accumulated enough money they moved home to work from their own computers and became self employed with several friends working with them. The younger cam girls in the Philippines are largely virgin, and guarding it with the same pride of any other normal Filipina. In shows they will often fake insertion and their shows are rather sedate and clearly uninterested. They will never meet up, though while the money is flowing they will say what they must.
In my opinion cam girls are more like average Filipina's and less like bar girls. They do what they must to pay the bills (most do it for their families), but in their minds they are not the same as a prostitute and they feel that they would never go that far. It is a very different world there and seems very contradictory to me.I wonder if my experience is different than yours because the girls I knew were all 18-20, virgin, with close families.
I would be interesting in knowing the camgirls name. I might actually know her and can offer all sorts of personal detail ;)
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[QUOTE=DT Looker]Well thanks for the advice, although I'm really wondering about it now. I offered to send money, and still told me 'No'. Apparently she was 'not at quota', and STILL refused for me to take her to Private Show, and asked if I could leave the chat room. Where she would then undress and do other things. (I have ways of watching.) She doesn't seem shy to anyone else BUT me. Its a little frustrating since all these other guys get to see her body (officially), but me.
If she is setting me up for a big haul it sure seems like one weird way. Still refusing to take my money. Refusing for me to see her body. I'd think by now even a money grubber would want to take the tokens since she was so behind on her quota.[/QUOTE]One sentence - she is setting you up for the big haul .. :D :D Knowing filipinas, some will be so eloborate till they refuse every centevo, because they know the mother lode is on the way.
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[QUOTE=DT Looker]If she is setting me up for a big haul it sure seems like one weird way. Still refusing to take my money. Refusing for me to see her body. I'd think by now even a money grubber would want to take the tokens since she was so behind on her quota.[/QUOTE]I still think most guys here are giving Filipina's too little credit. I think most Filipina's dream of a rich foreigner sweeping them off their feet and cam girls perhaps more than most. For some reason you are the chosen one. Perhaps you were nicer to her than she is accustomed to. Perhaps she likes the way you look. At any rate the stakes are even higher than with a money grubber. Sure, she doesn't pester you with stories of her sick Aunt, or begging for money every second like the typical cam girl, but some day you will look down and find a ring around your finger and a ball and chain around your ankle. Then she has your wallet. And your balls too.
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Pitiful me
Oh poor poor pitiful me, forlorn and sick at heart, youth and love have passed me by, fallen for a filipina that caught my eye.
My filipina chat girl so sexy so sweet, trying to get through school and stand on her feet.
I gladly give her the 50 I was going to spend at "Chilis", the next morn with a bad stomach and case of the willies.
My filipina chat girl who loves everything I say, and again I feel alive this very day.
Instead of to a crack ho on the street, I send the 50 to my filipina chat mate until we meet.
I've stepped over the breech, come what may, send your fusillades roaring my way.
Call me a fool, call me a schmuck, I am now a sitting duck.
For when she said "I will lick your ass" I have truly fallen for this little lass.
Oh poor poor, pitiful me.
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[QUOTE=Korkavado]Oh poor poor pitiful me, forlorn and sick at heart, youth and love have passed me by, fallen for a filipina that caught my eye.
My filipina chat girl so sexy so sweet, trying to get through school and stand on her feet.
I gladly give her the 50 I was going to spend at "Chilis", the next morn with a bad stomach and case of the willies.
My filipina chat girl who loves everything I say, and again I feel alive this very day.
Instead of to a crack ho on the street, I send the 50 to my filipina chat mate until we meet.
I've stepped over the breech, come what may, send your fusillades roaring my way.
Call me a fool, call me a schmuck, I am now a sitting duck.
For when she said "I will lick your ass" I have truly fallen for this little lass.
Oh poor poor, pitiful me.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are a silly fucker
She has nailed you as a sucker
And when you get here bye and bye
She will suck your budget dry
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Yes you are a silly fucker
She has nailed you as a sucker
And when you get here bye and bye
She will suck your budget dry[/QUOTE]
On the hunt again, but lacking the pesos to pay
You get the bright idea to troll the profiles of DIA
And just to prove that you are none the wiser
You message an alluring little spinner named Eliza
Manta Ray
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I might be exagerating the extended work hours a little. It depends on the girl I guess. Some more professional Cam girls I've seen who have the gift of Looks and Pure Sex Appeal will just work online for a few months at a time but they work huge hours to accumilate as much money as possible and then head off to school or back to their family or whatever. By that time they have lost weight, their litle butts are sore and they are tired of men telling them your so sexy marry me, I will be in phil next week. LOL
Other Cam girls just work a few prime hours at a time then sleep and eat and listen to music in between time. They usualy don't use toys and are more conservative but put up with more bs from their customers in free chat just to get a few min of pvt.
Some of these girls can be nice regular filipinas and are also open to meeting a good guy to fall in love with and take care of them. If they ask you for money no matter how little it is or what reason they have I would not send it or believe them unless you have met them in person and spent time getting to know them. I would just answer to them yes I know you work hard and you are a nice girl and I like you but I don't send money to anyone I have never met in person. You will find out very quickly if she really likes you or she is just playing with you. She will either get more agressive with her request, slowly stop sending you YM messages or she will continue to be the same sweet filipina girl and continue to be your friend.
Some Cam Girls with no morals have learned the art of scam will say and do anything to get someone to send them money either on their own doing or they are being schooled and managed by someone behind Cam. They only last a short time and need to continuously change screen names.
[QUOTE=Gallantnitez]I have yet to see a work-a-holic cam girl. The few I know began work with a manager (and without their parents knowledge of what they did) and perhaps worked 5 hours per day (though there are certainly many that seem to work 24/7).
I wonder if my experience is different than yours because the girls I knew were all 18-20, virgin, with close families.
I would be interesting in knowing the camgirls name. I might actually know her and can offer all sorts of personal detail.[/QUOTE]
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Look at it this way. Even if you sent money it really would not change her or her families life at all unless you did it on a monthly basis. If she was not working she would probably be back in the province with her family and completly bored.
Have you ever been to the Philippines? Or are you planning to go any time soon? If not do it!
An online relationship is missing so many factors of everyday life that if and when you ever meet your Cam Girl most of your expectations will be totaly different once you finaly meet her. It may turn out to be better or worse but you will not know that until you spend physical time together.
I met up with 4 different Cam Girls on my first visit to Phil along with many other girls I met online previous to my visit. All of the Cam Girls I met up with were completely different in person than how I saw them online. They all feel safe behind the camera and know they need to show the persona of a sexy girl to gain customers. In person they were shy and reserved but after spending some time with them and a few Long Island Iced Teas they dropped their guard and we had fun together.
So if you feel this Cam Girl is the woman of your dreams just relax and let the relationship take its course and time will answer all of your questions. Just don't make any commitments online for your benifit and hers. If you do go to Phil to meet up with her make sure you put some time asside before and after your time with her to meet other women. It will give you a better perspective on what your looking for and you will also meet other wonderful girls.
Goodluck and don't put your money or your heart in front of common sense. Its easier said than done trust me been there done that.
[QUOTE=DT Looker]Well thanks for the advice, although I'm really wondering about it now. I offered to send money, and still told me 'No'. Apparently she was 'not at quota', and STILL refused for me to take her to Private Show, and asked if I could leave the chat room. Where she would then undress and do other things. (I have ways of watching.) She doesn't seem shy to anyone else BUT me. Its a little frustrating since all these other guys get to see her body (officially), but me.
If she is setting me up for a big haul it sure seems like one weird way. Still refusing to take my money. Refusing for me to see her body. I'd think by now even a money grubber would want to take the tokens since she was so behind on her quota.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]...go back to high school. Maybe they had to quit for a few years and go to work. Or maybe they got pregnant as a teenager and had to drop out for a few years, and are just now going back.[/QUOTE]No, its just much MUCH easier to sit around the school polishing their nails, taking self portraits of themselves with their cell phones, collecting western union from foreigner "BFS's" than going to work 12 hours a day for a pittance salary.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]girls can have missed a year amnd still be at high school after 18 but more probably you were seeinga college uniform. the college uniforms look like HS uniforms and the girls can be 17-25[/QUOTE]Yes those are college uniforms. Its very common for college girls make a good living sucking money from gullible internet foreigner "BF's".
Meanwhile they are shagging their college pinoy bf's & on weekends prostituting themselves for cash in LA Cafe to any foreigner.
If you spend time to get to know their lifestyles you would be shocked & soon realise the 'shy' act is just that - an act.
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[QUOTE=Amavida].
Meanwhile they are shagging their college pinoy bf's & on weekends prostituting themselves for cash in LA Cafe to any foreigner.
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I thought LA Cafe was closed?
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[QUOTE=Korkavado]Oh poor poor pitiful me, forlorn and sick at heart, youth and love have passed me by, fallen for a filipina that caught my eye.
My filipina chat girl so sexy so sweet, trying to get through school and stand on her feet.
I gladly give her the 50 I was going to spend at "Chilis", the next morn with a bad stomach and case of the willies.
My filipina chat girl who loves everything I say, and again I feel alive this very day.
Instead of to a crack ho on the street, I send the 50 to my filipina chat mate until we meet.
I've stepped over the breech, come what may, send your fusillades roaring my way.
Call me a fool, call me a schmuck, I am now a sitting duck.
For when she said "I will lick your ass" I have truly fallen for this little lass.
Oh poor poor, pitiful me.[/QUOTE]
Some girls in DIA are legitimately looking for some serious realationships. If you can afford it sending $50/month as a donation is ok. Just treat it as a donation. Whether she rocks your word as a sex object remains to be experienced if you are there in Person. In Spite of what they profess online , in reality they maybe far from it. Having said this I have had great experiences with all my girls I met through DIA. Yes, I gave them money more as a donation than requirement. It clears my conscience .
Only word of caution I can tell you is , do not let her play you for more and more money before you even get into her pants. My rationale is if I stay with the girl for a week I would figure 2000 pesos a whole day and night. I calculate the total say 14,000 pesos. For this I paid 6000 pesos as air fare to fly her down. If local girl no airfare. I buy them gifts like clothes and sometimes cell phones if she totally good to me. When she leaves I give her between 6000-10,000 pesos. They refuse but I tell them to buy something for themselves or their brothers and sisters or for her child in some cases.
If i was alone and mongering I would spend 3000-4000 pesos drinking and barfining or paying a freelancer. The dia girl is there all the time as a GF.
At the moment I am chatting with a 18 year old girl from Butuaan and it is fun to chat with her. She did demand 2500 pesos for month saying she needs money for rent, internet, clothes etc. I have not sent any money saying only after I meet her , I will think about monthly allowance.
If she is good I might seriously consider supporting her.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]..I will think about monthly allowance.
If she is good I might seriously consider supporting her.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you and the 37 other guys who she also 'misses so much'. Seriously dude you gotta be kidding yourself about this... whats that you say? Your girl is different.. oh right, how silly of me ;)
Butuan seems to be a hotbed of hustlers. Know lots of career 'college girls' from there. All have a LOT of internet BF's in their YM accounts, some do them on rare visits, all paying..
There must have been some Indian seamen left their genes there long ago, the girls there have a more slender physique than the usual Mindanao telly-tubbies.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]Some girls in DIA are legitimately looking for some serious realationships. If you can afford it sending $50/month as a donation is ok. Just treat it as a donation. [/QUOTE]
This is horrible advice to give anybody! Best to give money only after you've gotten sex.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]This is horrible advice to give anybody! Best to give money only after you've gotten sex.[/QUOTE]I have to say yes. No wonder there are a lot of runners.
Add to that. It will only be a matter of time 50$ multiplies. In my free time, I was chatting with a cam girl, and within a few days, stranger connections came up and then in no time I had about a dozen plus girls, all in love with me (and I was in love. SOP.) and all slowly started to cry their hearts out and slowly. Pretty slowly started asking $. So 12 X 50 $ for nothing? I may be crazy but aint stupid mate.
In my opinion. Good girls don't ask money on cam, atleast they wait till they see you in person before loving you or skinning you alive.
The others. No comments.
PS: I still can't figure out that somebody could be so smitten on cam girls?: confused:
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Overly generous
[QUOTE=Sammon]Some girls in DIA are legitimately looking for some serious realationships. If you can afford it sending $50/month as a donation is ok. Just treat it as a donation. Whether she rocks your word as a sex object remains to be experienced if you are there in Person. In Spite of what they profess online , in reality they maybe far from it. Having said this I have had great experiences with all my girls I met through DIA. Yes, I gave them money more as a donation than requirement. It clears my conscience .
Only word of caution I can tell you is , do not let her play you for more and more money before you even get into her pants. My rationale is if I stay with the girl for a week I would figure 2000 pesos a whole day and night. I calculate the total say 14,000 pesos. For this I paid 6000 pesos as air fare to fly her down. If local girl no airfare. I buy them gifts like clothes and sometimes cell phones if she totally good to me. When she leaves I give her between 6000-10,000 pesos. They refuse but I tell them to buy something for themselves or their brothers and sisters or for her child in some cases.
If i was alone and mongering I would spend 3000-4000 pesos drinking and barfining or paying a freelancer. The dia girl is there all the time as a GF.
At the moment I am chatting with a 18 year old girl from Butuaan and it is fun to chat with her. She did demand 2500 pesos for month saying she needs money for rent, internet, clothes etc. I have not sent any money saying only after I meet her , I will think about monthly allowance.
If she is good I might seriously consider supporting her.[/QUOTE]
Of course, it all depends on your budget and lifestyle and if you are getting good results and are happy then you can feel free to ignore the uber cynics on this but this is certainly being 2-3x as generous than needed. Other commentators are right that Butuaan and other largish but infrequently visited towns in Mindanao (such as Bislig, GenSan, Zamboanga) are hot beds of scamming. This is perfectly logical if you think about it. If a good looking girl lives in Manila or Cebu she can put a nice add on DIA and get 100 messages a day of which maybe 5 will actually be in the city right now. If she wants to generate cash she needs to figure out which of these will actually pay her and go meet them. A girl in Butuan will get only a few random hits mostly from guys with no intention of coming to the Phils (and thus not worried about where exactly she lives). She could spend a year diligently going to the net cafe spending pesos and never actually meet anyone. Therefore most of the "normal" girls in this place wont bother and the field is left open for those trying to make a living from some sort of scamming.
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Just Say Your Poor
Depending on the 'situation', I would say I'm in a very interesting position. I've repeatedly told girls that "I'm Poor" or "Sorry, can't send you money now.". I usually buy tokens very erratically so I don't always have some to 'tip them'. Most of the other girls have either left, and stopped bothering me for stuff. But the ones that do stick around actually become more friends than anything since they know already that you have no money for them, and only thing you can do is chat and get to know each other.
Strangely enough, I still have 2 girls that are 'still in love' with me. If they've been waiting for over a month now for a 'big score', and they sure aren't asking for it. They now don't want me to see their naked bodies at all; are busy with me in the YM more and 'video calls' instead of the Webcam Chat.
The main 'one' actually is sick.. and when I asked if should send some money for medicine she says "No". What she wants is for me to video call her and watch her to try sleep, so whenever her pain woke her up she could see me. Then when she finally fell asleep I could end the call.
The other I can't keep in touch with easily because she's decided to stop being a camgirl and is chatting with me in YM. I ask if she needs anything, and she too blows it off. Says something about trying to be a 'normal girl' so that I know her that way instead of being a 'camgirl'.
Granted this is like 2 out of about 30+ girls. Either I'm getting setup for a 'really big score' or I've found I two gems.
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Funny
Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Yeah, you and the 37 other guys who she also 'misses so much'. Seriously dude you gotta be kidding yourself about this... whats that you say? Your girl is different.. oh right, how silly of me ;)
Butuan seems to be a hotbed of hustlers. Know lots of career 'college girls' from there. All have a LOT of internet BF's in their YM accounts, some do them on rare visits, all paying..
There must have been some Indian seamen left their genes there long ago, the girls there have a more slender physique than the usual Mindanao telly-tubbies.[/QUOTE]Have you been to Butuan? Hope you can give a field report.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Of course, it all depends on your budget and lifestyle and if you are getting good results and are happy then you can feel free to ignore the uber cynics on this but this is certainly being 2-3x as generous than needed. Other commentators are right that Butuaan and other largish but infrequently visited towns in Mindanao (such as Bislig, GenSan, Zamboanga) are hot beds of scamming. This is perfectly logical if you think about it. If a good looking girl lives in Manila or Cebu she can put a nice add on DIA and get 100 messages a day of which maybe 5 will actually be in the city right now. If she wants to generate cash she needs to figure out which of these will actually pay her and go meet them. A girl in Butuan will get only a few random hits mostly from guys with no intention of coming to the Phils (and thus not worried about where exactly she lives). She could spend a year diligently going to the net cafe spending pesos and never actually meet anyone. Therefore most of the "normal" girls in this place wont bother and the field is left open for those trying to make a living from some sort of scamming.[/QUOTE]
To be honest one should consider all girls as scammers unless proven otherwise. I was just advising the guy who send $50/month to somebody he is chatting with. I advised him to send it as charity only. As for me I would not do that. I am willing to send her money for the air ticket and take my chances. So far I have 100% success with this. Nobody has taken the money and not show up in total of 8 girls so far. I usually do not need added pressure from the family so I fly them into Manila , have a good time , treat them good with some money and gifts. Having said that I have supported two girls over the years for ostensibly studies but not sure. I have gone and stayed in their provinces ( hotel only-I will never stay in their house) been treated to a dinner ( maybe with my money) and found out real village life.
Sometimes rather than staying in AC or Manila or Cebu I like to visit other places with someody I know. It is a good experience.
If this guy who is sending money in spite of not having met her( call it scammed if you like) but if he is happy why worry?
We all are scammed one time or another by people either selling sex, nick knacks etc.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]If a good looking girl lives in Manila or Cebu she can put a nice add on DIA and get 100 messages a day of which maybe 5 will actually be in the city right now. If she wants to generate cash she needs to figure out which of these will actually pay her and go meet them. A girl in Butuan will get only a few random hits mostly from guys with no intention of coming to the Phils (and thus not worried about where exactly she lives). She could spend a year diligently going to the net cafe spending pesos and never actually meet anyone. Therefore most of the "normal" girls in this place wont bother and the field is left open for those trying to make a living from some sort of scamming.[/QUOTE]Very true except that many of the sweet/shy/innocent girls claiming to be in, for example, Butuan, are actually in Manila most of the time shagging pinoys boyfriends & going to hotels rooms of internet lotharios.. They go home to their province on their frequent & long semester breaks where they shag their OTHER pinoy boyfriends.. they all lie about everything
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Suzie Wong hits the Internet age
[QUOTE=DT Looker]Depending on the 'situation', I would say I'm in a very interesting position. I've repeatedly told girls that "I'm Poor" or "Sorry, can't send you money now.". I usually buy tokens very erratically so I don't always have some to 'tip them'. Most of the other girls have either left, and stopped bothering me for stuff. But the ones that do stick around actually become more friends than anything since they know already that you have no money for them, and only thing you can do is chat and get to know each other.
Strangely enough, I still have 2 girls that are 'still in love' with me. If they've been waiting for over a month now for a 'big score', and they sure aren't asking for it. They now don't want me to see their naked bodies at all; are busy with me in the YM more and 'video calls' instead of the Webcam Chat.
The main 'one' actually is sick.. and when I asked if should send some money for medicine she says "No". What she wants is for me to video call her and watch her to try sleep, so whenever her pain woke her up she could see me. Then when she finally fell asleep I could end the call.
The other I can't keep in touch with easily because she's decided to stop being a camgirl and is chatting with me in YM. I ask if she needs anything, and she too blows it off. Says something about trying to be a 'normal girl' so that I know her that way instead of being a 'camgirl'.
Granted this is like 2 out of about 30+ girls. Either I'm getting setup for a 'really big score' or I've found I two gems.[/QUOTE]
I'm not clear what exactly it is that leads you to conclude that these two are "gems" . Hookers and cam girls are still women and like most women they are thinking both short term (what advantage right now) and long term (is there a chance of securing a long term prize/meal ticket). Sometimes the long term thinking is not conscious or premeditaed its more like genetically hard wired, but I think this rather than a send you $500 is t=what the guys are talking about in terms of big prize
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Not so funny for the lady in question.
[QUOTE=Auzijon]Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?[/QUOTE]
Did she agree that you could post her pic on DIA ? Do you know for sure she is a hardened pro/ cam girl type? How would you feel had you sent her a naked pic of yourself and she had posted it in a women's mag in your country?
Just a thought.
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Butuan
[QUOTE=X Man]Have you been to Butuan? Hope you can give a field report.
X[/QUOTE]G'day X, its ok place for a visit. Easy access by air. Its not a place I would plan to go back to unless I had a good reason to.
Quite a few non locals there. The girls being more experienced with foreigners so tons of pussy available. As I said the girls there tend to have a more willowy look which I find attractive.
There are some falls you can trek to but it is a long way. Beaches are ok.
Local political killings (mostly over logging), plain old banditry and guerilla activity make me uneasy about travelling outside the metro areas (but then I'm more reluctant to travel outside the towns ANYWHERE in Mindanao these days).
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Auzijon]Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?[/QUOTE]
No but this is not unusual.
Asian women don't do anything without a purpose.
So she did the shy/innocent routine with you & apparently that did'nt elicit the correct response so now she moves on to overt sexual entrapment.
Pretty obvious to me she has been on DIA for a while (they get bombarded with demands for pics like this all the time) looks like she decided to acceed after many fruitless contacts.
An inexperienced non pro would'nt dream of posting a pic like that even if she was talking to a future/present lover.
I could be totally wrong..
How many kids have sucked on those forlorn saggy things?
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I dont think he said he was going to post the pic on DIA but to share her nude photo here in ISG is not much different. Unless her photo was already posted on a free forum for others to view then I dont think its right to post it on a forum without her approval. Also not a good idea for her to send nude photos to a stranger. Since you (Aizijon) say you have chatted with her for some time on DIA maybe she trusted that you would not post her pic?
The photos I have sharred on this site are either of Bar Girls or Cam Girls who already have their nude photos posted online for all to view.
Aizijon what did you expect or want from this girl you have been chatting with from DIA? Were you chatting her about attending church with her family or about hooking up for sex? Just curious because you seam alarmed that she sent you a topless photo.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Did she agree that you could post her pic on DIA ? Do you know for sure she is a hardened pro/ cam girl type? How would you feel had you sent her a naked pic of yourself and she had posted it in a women's mag in your country?
Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Auzijon]Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?[/QUOTE]
And what would be her nom de guerre on DIA?
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[QUOTE=Amavida]No but this is not unusual.
Asian women don't do anything without a purpose.
So she did the shy/innocent routine with you & apparently that did'nt elicit the correct response so now she moves on to overt sexual entrapment.
Pretty obvious to me she has been on DIA for a while (they get bombarded with demands for pics like this all the time) looks like she decided to acceed after many fruitless contacts.
An inexperienced non pro would'nt dream of posting a pic like that even if she was talking to a future/present lover.
I could be totally wrong..
How many kids have sucked on those forlorn saggy things?
Av[/QUOTE]New to the scene and curious.
What is "DIA"?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Did she agree that you could post her pic on DIA ? Do you know for sure she is a hardened pro/ cam girl type? How would you feel had you sent her a naked pic of yourself and she had posted it in a women's mag in your country?
Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
I would never send my naked pic to anyone, as I would assume that somehow it will end up on the net somewhere, in some way.
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I had the same question months ago. DIA stands for the www dateinasia dot com website. Some website addresses get blocked on here if they are in competion. i would guess [url]www.dateinasia.com[/url] is not one that gets blocked. Its a simple free dating site to hook up with asian gals in various countries.
[QUOTE=Thallipoli]New to the scene and curious.
What is "DIA"?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy]I would never send my naked pic to anyone, as I would assume that somehow it will end up on the net somewhere, in some way.[/QUOTE]
More likely this girl is a camgirl who wants to entice the guy to see more of her. There are lots of camgirls in DIA. Once they get your e mail address keep on trying to get money. Some girls will bare part of their body for one reason or another.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Very true except that many of the sweet/shy/innocent girls claiming to be in, for example, Butuan, are actually in Manila most of the time shagging pinoys boyfriends & going to hotels rooms of internet lotharios.. They go home to their province on their frequent & long semester breaks where they shag their OTHER pinoy boyfriends.. they all lie about everything
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You are generalising all girls. Not all girls shag everybody as you presume. It is not the Butuan girls only. Phi girls are quite open to sex. It does not matter where they live.
Not all girls lie either. Some are decent and honest. I am sorry you met only the girls who lie and shag everybody.
I have had quite a few relationships in Philippines. I trust majority of them.
If you are nice to them they tend to be honest.
Ofcourse nobody knows all secrets about anybody. We lie also to these girls saying they are the only ones we have sex with.
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Disagree with you
[QUOTE=Sammon]You are generalising all girls. Not all girls shag everybody as you presume. It is not the Butuan girls only. Phi girls are quite open to sex. It does not matter where they live.
Not all girls lie either. Some are decent and honest. I am sorry you met only the girls who lie and shag everybody.
I have had quite a few relationships in Philippines. I trust majority of them.
If you are nice to them they tend to be honest.
Ofcourse nobody knows all secrets about anybody. We lie also to these girls saying they are the only ones we have sex with.[/QUOTE]Just a bit. Yes, its generalizing. But there is that kernel of truth. Whereas if I'm having an online relationship with a girl in Alabama (or Jakarta), the odds that she has a local boyfriend for sex, and has several online boyfriend's sending her money, is relatively small. Have a relationship with a girl from Surigao or Butuan (or any filipina for that matter), and NOBODY is going to be shocked to find out later that she is boffing a local guy and getting western union from another american and a frenchman.
Just about every expat I've ever spoken to in filipines has been burned by this scenario, and has friends there who tell similar stories. Yet, I don't know any in other asian countries that have this tale to tell. Buddy of mine posts on DragonLadies website. They are experts in what parts of filipines the scamming is coming from. I read the site some. And my friend tells me the filipinas actually admit that they do this a lot, and so do their friends. Some say they are the only of their friends who don't do it.
There are plenty of nice filipinas in Butuan. But also a lot of scammers. They lie for any perceived peso. Who can tell the difference? Certainly not the tens of thousands of foreigners each year that filipinas scam?
"We lie also to these girls saying they are the only ones we have sex with" I think you are right, many guys do this. I don't. I'm both nice and honest, I tell them up front I'm a butterfly. But they flock in anyway, probably because I'm decent to them. Why don't the 'good' girls you speak of run from this?
"If you are nice to them they tend to be honest. " Well, if you are nice to them, they tend to be nice back. Honest? Maybe.
I'll PM you.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]More likely this girl is a camgirl who wants to entice the guy to see more of her. There are lots of camgirls in DIA. Once they get your e mail address keep on trying to get money. Some girls will bare part of their body for one reason or another.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QH-qFsIdg8&feature=related[/url]
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[QUOTE=Auzijon]Was chatting with this lady for a while from dia, very proper and demure, no hint of this then out of the blue she sends this foto. Any one else had this experience with her?[/QUOTE]
Nice jugs, men. Would like to have "expereince" with her :-)
Did you score?
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Just a bit. Yes, its generalizing. But there is that kernel of truth. Whereas if I'm having an online relationship with a girl in Alabama (or Jakarta), the odds that she has a local boyfriend for sex, and has several online boyfriend's sending her money, is relatively small. Have a relationship with a girl from Surigao or Butuan (or any filipina for that matter)[/QUOTE]Try having a relationship with a Alabama girl online or otherwise and visit her 2-3 weeks a year for sex. See where that will get you. She will definitely will be bonking other men during your absense. Same goes to all the women including Indo women. Alabama girl will not be scamming online for money. That is the only difference. I had a GF when I went to School in Kentucky and she lived with me. We had a very good relationship. Every weekend she used to go to her parents house (two hours away farm country)even when I asked her to stay. I thought nothing of it. One day after going to the Doctor she told me she has Syphilis and I should get tested because we were fucking like jack rabbits. Sure enough it was positive and we both had to be treated. I was real faithfull to her. On interrogation she confided that every weekend when she went to her home she used to go out with her old BF.
We broke up right away.
I trust Some not all Philippino girls more than I trust your Alabama girls.
The problems most people have is just because they support the girl they expect the girl to be chaste till they visit. At the same time there is no promise of marriage.
I am sure if you visit frequently and meet her physical and emotional needs they can be trusted.
Those who cheat is not the exclusive right of Philippino or Butuan girls. It is just that some cheat and some do not cheat all over the world.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]You are generalising all girls. Not all girls shag everybody as you presume. It is not the Butuan girls only. Phi girls are quite open to sex. It does not matter where they live.
Not all girls lie either. Some are decent and honest. I am sorry you met only the girls who lie and shag everybody.
I have had quite a few relationships in Philippines. I trust majority of them.
If you are nice to them they tend to be honest.
Ofcourse nobody knows all secrets about anybody. We lie also to these girls saying they are the only ones we have sex with.[/QUOTE]If your girl is not two timing you its because YOU have'nt found out about it... YET.
I've known expat mates who topped themselves when they found out.
One of my business's is industrial security, i have the contacts & the resources to get the truth about what a girl is up to. It would make your hair curl if you knew how blase young non p4p pinay's are about (let's call a spade a spade) prostituting themselves to foreigners, whilst doing pinoys at the same time.
Two timing is very, very common.
The expression they use to me 'it's just business'.
Remember I'm not talking about hookers, I'm talking about so called 'normal' or 'straight' girls.
I can't stress enough how common it really is.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]If your girl is not two timing you its because YOU have'nt found out about it... YET.
I've known expat mates who topped themselves when they found out.
One of my business's is industrial security, i have the contacts & the resources to get the truth about what a girl is up to. It would make your hair curl if you knew how blase young non p4p pinay's are about (let's call a spade a spade) prostituting themselves to foreigners, whilst doing pinoys at the same time.
Two timing is very, very common.
The expression they use to me 'it's just business'.
Remember I'm not talking about hookers, I'm talking about so called 'normal' or 'straight' girls.
I can't stress enough how common it really is.
AV[/QUOTE]
Listen. I go to PHI for mongering. Along the way If I have normal girls who want to spend time with me here and there so be it. I do not mind helping them financially but I do not go overoard and love them to death. It does not matter to me if she is screwing around. No woman can be trusted or no man can be trusted unless you are with the person 24/7.
I am just saying to all mongers that it is fine with supporting the girls out of the goodness of your heart. Also it is fun to have a normal girl to stay with you as GF. Life being what it is some girls will be chaste for you while others will not be.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]Listen. I go to PHI for mongering. Along the way If I have normal girls who want to spend time with me here and there so be it. I do not mind helping them financially but I do not go overoard and love them to death. It does not matter to me if she is screwing around. No woman can be trusted or no man can be trusted unless you are with the person 24/7.
I am just saying to all mongers that it is fine with supporting the girls out of the goodness of your heart. Also it is fun to have a normal girl to stay with you as GF. Life being what it is some girls will be chaste for you while others will not be.[/QUOTE]Am in total agreement with you on this. Im quite sure some of the sweet young girls I associate with are also with both other foreigners when Im not around and other Pinoys also.. but its a chance that we take with every girl we meet. As long as they pretend to be sweet, loving and enthusiastic lovers then I think most of us are happy to play along. The play part gets seriously compromised when we or they get serious and expect more from them , and a level of exclusivity.
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In the last thirty days I've had sex with two Japanese women and about ten Filipinas. With the exception of one J girl, all of these ladies have been having sex with other people and I don't give a flying fk. No, that's not true. I hope they had a great time...or found it, at the very least, financially lucrative.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Am in total agreement with you on this. Im quite sure some of the sweet young girls I associate with are also with both other foreigners when Im not around and other Pinoys also.. but its a chance that we take with every girl we meet. As long as they pretend to be sweet, loving and enthusiastic lovers then I think most of us are happy to play along. The play part gets seriously compromised when we or they get serious and expect more from them , and a level of exclusivity.[/QUOTE]
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Her name is Marly L on Tagged, 18 y/o flip from Puerto Princess.
[url]http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5443430561[/url]
She says "I'm looking for a white guy or a filipina I want to experience a girl as much as i want to experience a white guy. I am willing to meet you if you live near me. shhhhh its a secret. Its my time to try everything."
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Two timing is very, very common.... I'm talking about so called 'normal' or 'straight' girls.
I can't stress enough how common it really is.
AV[/QUOTE]Hear, hear! I had a lovely young housekeeper in Davao. She would have me call her on her BF's cellphone every Friday night to confirm I needed her on Saturday. Her instructions were to say I was calling for my wife, and she wanted her to come to clean on Saturday morning at 9AM.
BF would drop her off at 9am sharp, ten minutes later she was in bed with me. I'd leave for breakfast, return a couple hours later, get a goodbye shag, and her BF would be back to pick her up at noon.
Ya gotta love the PI.
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Polyorchids housekeeper
[QUOTE=Polyorchid]Hear, hear! I had a lovely young housekeeper in Davao. She would have me call her on her BF's cellphone every Friday night to confirm I needed her on Saturday. Her instructions were to say I was calling for my wife, and she wanted her to come to clean on Saturday morning at 9AM.
BF would drop her off at 9am sharp, ten minutes later she was in bed with me. I'd leave for breakfast, return a couple hours later, get a goodbye shag, and her BF would be back to pick her up at noon.
Ya gotta love the PI.[/QUOTE]Great, but did she clean the place or pull a Seinfeld?
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Time to chat with some girls
I am getting ready for the next trip to the PI. I usually hit the dating sites before hand to become familiar with a few girls before I hit their town. I notice Cherry Blossom has really lowered their standards since I first joined 4 years ago. They are even approving pictures of ladies with only their body showing, not their head at all. they used to required clear head shots, now just about anything goes.
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I did find this members profile picture interesting, lucky elephant.
I will be return next month, if anyone else is looking for a wing man during the trip.
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This is about Chat Rooms & Pen Pals not a poetry contest. Even worse when it does not fully rhyme.
As for XM conquests. Some of us have met them. Unlike you
Now back to the thread's purpose
Bob. Lucky elephant indeed, so many to chose from so little time but I always have back up plans as some never turn up or are late that means the next date is at risk. Ask Ultrapilot he works the chat sites and is very successful but has it all planned and organised (the only way IMHO) as is Gangles who spends time with a few girls only.
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Thread Cleanup
[blue]Greetings Everyone,
I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise worthless posts by Bopalula, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
Thanks,
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Now back to the thread's purpose
Bob. Lucky elephant indeed, so many to chose from so little time but I always have back up plans as some never turn up or are late that means the next date is at risk. Ask Ultrapilot he works the chat sites and is very successful but has it all planned and organised (the only way IMHO) as is Gangles who spends time with a few girls only.[/QUOTE]And here's another with his schedule made and ready to fly. All too often I make an impossible schedule for myself that leaves me totally shagged out. Although its actually a nice feeling to be sitting at work having shagged mupliple times previously and noticing that somethings missing. And the part thats missing is "the thinking about shagging! " Anyways my schedule for a Manila trip later this week, is Night One. The ex virgin. She gave me her V about 6 months back. I have already called her Mom to ask if she can stay with me, mom agrees then quietly whispers " please don't forget my pasulobong". Anyways ex virgin likes anal and butt plug so we will have a nice night bonking with some horror movie dvds. I may or may not be the only guy she shags, I don't know.
Afternoon Two. Have to do some work but a sweet girl working in Mall of asia will be the afternoon delight. Probably in Eurotel Pasay Road. My first time withh her, 23, 90 pounds.
Evening Two. Old friend Miss B works in legit massage place. Now 21. She rarely asks for anything though this time asked me for Baileys for her Dad. In return she says she will give up her ass. Have to wash the buttplug first LOL.
Afternoon Three. Will meet a DIA gal, 19, 95 pounds, probably Eurotel again as hate the EDSA traffic on a Friday night. Lunch and poke seems to be scheduled.
Evening Three. A gal who is very photogenic, just turned 22. Is a secretary in Mandaluyong. We started chatting about bikinis and is interetested in the idea of wearing one. So I got her plenty. She then shyly texted me yesterday and hopes she can stay overnight. She also said " I hope your not a player " No honey. Not me. 88 pounds. Lovely!
Lunchtime Four. I have a few hours, free and maybe will take Ms Antipolo. Keeps sending words of love via YM. Has a 12 year old daughter but looks fine. She's a maybe.
Evening Four. Have kept it free assuming the batts will be low, but may also be kept for a repeat with Ms Evening Three in case she's as good as she looks.
Morning Five. The Nurse from Pamapanga should be making a reappearance, haven't met up with her for 4 months as she has problems at home and in work, and the father of her kid isn't sending her any money any more. The most uninhibited girl who is turned on my everything. Usual 3 hour session will give her 20+ orgasms.
Evening Five. Fly home and collapse.
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Dia
If you copy a DIA photo, can you use the number on the back to trace the profile?
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]If you copy a DIA photo, can you use the number on the back to trace the profile?[/QUOTE]WTF?
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]....................
Evening Five. Fly home and collapse.[/QUOTE]
I didn't think you'd have time to meet me FF.
You player man. You liar man. Me no like you .
heeheehee joke only
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Can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?
What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?
For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?
I hope this is clearer. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?
For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?
I hope this is clearer. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I dont think it will work. There is a search bar where you can type in a username. But the .jpg name won't work.
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?
For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?
I hope this is clearer. Thank you.[/QUOTE]When you first save the picture to you're computer, you need to change the file name of the photo, to her profile name. For example the photo file is - 1359877_gallery_634118778500000000, her profile name is ( baby.trish01 ) hit the search button and a filter for the different options to search will appear, hit the user name tab and type or paste the profile name example ( baby.trish01 ) now hit the search button in the filter, and the profile you are lookinf for will come up.
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?
For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?
I hope this is clearer. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Why not just save the photo on your computer with her username as the file name? That way you can just search whenever you like using the username.
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No thats only the file or photo name but I'm sure its not associated with her dia account. If I'm wrong let me know.
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?
For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?
I hope this is clearer. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Toronto]Why not just save the photo on your computer with her username as the file name? That way you can just search whenever you like using the username.[/QUOTE]Well, just speculating but I assume the purpose of the question is to find a profile that was NOT saved, so it's too late for the case at hand.
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?
For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?[/QUOTE] Maybe someone else knows a way and may feel free to correct me but I fear you are out of luck. To me it seems DIA profile names are [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid]random Version 4 UUIDs[/url] with a 32-character hexadecimal encoding which are intended to be as random as practically possible (like in astronomical-odds-random). The pictures on the other hand appear to be encoded differently, the first part of the filename (1223454 in your case) is connected to a profile as the number remains the same when a girl changes her picture. Newer profiles have higher numbers. The second part seems to me like a globally rising number connected to all pictures (at least the middle part of it). If there is a way to derive the randomized usernames from the linearly increasing picture numbers (even though the first part is unique to a profile) then I don't see it. Simple HEX-conversions don't work at least.
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Dude can you do that type of astronomical-odds-random thing to help me get laid?
Thats fucking cool. lol
[QUOTE=Ajacobson]Well, just speculating but I assume the purpose of the question is to find a profile that was NOT saved, so it's too late for the case at hand.
Maybe someone else knows a way and may feel free to correct me but I fear you are out of luck. To me it seems DIA profile names are [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid]random Version 4 UUIDs[/url] with a 32-character hexadecimal encoding which are intended to be as random as practically possible (like in astronomical-odds-random). The pictures on the other hand appear to be encoded differently, the first part of the filename (1223454 in your case) is connected to a profile as the number remains the same when a girl changes her picture. Newer profiles have higher numbers. The second part seems to me like a globally rising number connected to all pictures (at least the middle part of it). If there is a way to derive the randomized usernames from the linearly increasing picture numbers (even though the first part is unique to a profile) then I don't see it. Simple HEX-conversions don't work at least.[/QUOTE]
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No can do.
The moral of the story is...
Save more than the picture; I use a free "printscreen" program that works well.
Don't wait too long to ask for contact information (phone and email and SN site) and find some way to connect the contact information with the pictures you've saved.
Some people have given suggestions about how they do this, none of it was remotely what I do. I guess everyone finds their own way.
X
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]What I am asking is if you have a photo copied from DIA, can you use the file name of the photo to find the profile of the girl?
For example, the file of one photo is named 1223454_profile_634049972630000000.jpg. If you had copied this photo from DIA onto your computer and later want to find the profile, is there a way to do that?
I hope this is clearer. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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o.marjorie
o.marjorie writes she is from the state of Cebu and the city of Luzon. I ask her where she is from and she writes back Mindanao!
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[QUOTE=X Man]No can do.
The moral of the story is...
Save more than the picture; I use a free "printscreen" program that works well.
Don't wait too long to ask for contact information (phone and email and SN site) and find some way to connect the contact information with the pictures you've saved.
Some people have given suggestions about how they do this, none of it was remotely what I do. I guess everyone finds their own way.
X[/QUOTE]I've been starting to use OneNote for this sort of stuff. Its been included with Office since the 2007 version, but not a lot of people seem to really use it. The killer feature for me is ability to paste most of what's on a page, including pictures, directly into the notebook. Put various tags on the notes as you go and its pretty easy to find a replacement to suit just your perversion for the evening if your plans change.
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]o.marjorie writes she is from the state of Cebu and the city of Luzon. I ask her where she is from and she writes back Mindanao![/QUOTE]That's par for the course on all the asian dating sites.
Don't fall in to the trap of wasting too much time on trying to keep track of the women. Let them chase you. There will be plenty enough to keep your little willie busy ;)
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]That's par for the course on all the asian dating sites.
Don't fall in to the trap of wasting too much time on trying to keep track of the women. Let them chase you. There will be plenty enough to keep your little willie busy ;)
AV[/QUOTE]I too would not bother to 'verify the info.
Like girls from Manila,
Q: where are you from ? A: Manila
Q: so can I meet you in Manila ? A: no, I am 4 hours away from Manila - Bulacan
Q: So you are from Bulacan ? A: I am from the Province
Q: Where is that ? A: Rizal
Q: Can I meet you in Rizal ? A: Now I am in Romblon
Q: So you are from Romblon or Rizal ? A: You have so many questions ..
Mostly, they just assume you don't know nuts about their country, and every place outside Manila is "Province" and they maybe here, there or everywhere. And their geography sucks. To the extent I joke that Philippines is next to US and Spain!
My 2 cents opinion? Don't waste time trying to get the info corrected.
Like the girl I met in Manila, who is living in Binalaonan, parents are in Tarlac, and where she wants to become a farmer in Zamboanga) and her grand parents are in Palawan. When asked, she said that she lives in province, works in the province, her parents are in the province and her grand parents are in the province, and. No comments.
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[QUOTE=Econo Tech]Q: where are you from ?
A: Manila
Q: so can I meet you in Manila ?
A: no, I am 4 hours away from Manila - Bulacan
Q: So you are from Bulacan ?
A: I am from the Province
Q: Where is that ?
A: Rizal
Q: Can I meet you in Rizal ?
A: Now I am in Romblon
Q: So you are from Romblon or Rizal ?
A: You have so many questions ..
[/QUOTE]Oh man, you made me laugh, this captures the grindingly boring conversations so well that one encounters over & over again hehehe :)
Of course there are the ones who offer to fly to Manila to meet you to balance them out ;)
I quickly learned that the quickest way to approach the subject of meeting them was to declare where you will be. Running all over the PI's to meet sluts is wrong wrong wrong. Go where you want to holiday, there will be plenty there & plenty more who will come to you.
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Oh man, you made me laugh, this captures the grindingly boring conversations so well that one encounters over & over again hehehe :)
Of course there are the ones who offer to fly to Manila to meet you to balance them out ;)
I quickly learned that the quickest way to approach the subject of meeting them was to declare where you will be. Running all over the PI's to meet sluts is wrong wrong wrong. Go where you want to holiday, there will be plenty there & plenty more who will come to you.
AV[/QUOTE]You are complete right.
I am just past 3 months of paid membership in Cherry Blossoms.
Guys, do not do what I did.
Was a complete waste of time.
95 % of my contacts has been as described in the post before.
LOW LOW LOW standards
Around 9, 000 emails went back and forth in these 3 months.
I almost needed a secretary.
Guy, don't
I regret now what I have done and never do that again.
By the way: A girl doesn't show up for a chatting date will most probably also not show up when you want to meet her in person.
Again: Do not focus on dating sites. It is a complete waste of time.
Just my most recent experience.
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MarkFalcon33,
I had a chance to read your posts. Not much there other than showing that you spend endless hours looking at sex websites. Your posts on ISG are usually putting down other members posts and not sharring anything that you have actually expierienced in real life. Oh well.
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How long were you there and how many women did you want to meet? How many did you actually meet? Can you give us examples of how/why things went so badly? Inquiring minds want to know.
I had some bad luck with DIA a while back, but somehow ended up with a gem at the end. Sorry to hear you had such bad luck Rampana. X
[QUOTE=Rampana]You are complete right.
I am just past 3 months of paid membership in Cherry Blossoms.
Guys, do not do what I did.
Was a complete waste of time.
95 % of my contacts has been as described in the post before.
LOW LOW LOW standards
Around 9, 000 emails went back and forth in these 3 months.
I almost needed a secretary.
Guy, don't
I regret now what I have done and never do that again.
By the way: A girl doesn't show up for a chatting date will most probably also not show up when you want to meet her in person.
Again: Do not focus on dating sites. It is a complete waste of time.
Just my most recent experience.[/QUOTE]
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On a more upbeat note, let's hope the two of you will be positive contributors after you visit the Philippines.
With over 2000 posts at ISG, I guess I'm also guilty of spending endless hours at promiscuity-prone websites.
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]MarkFalcon33,
I had a chance to read your posts. Not much there other than showing that you spend endless hours looking at sex websites. Your posts on ISG are usually putting down other members posts and not sharring anything that you have actually expierienced in real life. Oh well.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rampana]Was a complete waste of time.[/QUOTE]
Oh I have found CB useful. What I do is focus on getting the key details early from them:
- their email/Yahoo Messenger address
- Their cell phone number
- Just where the freak they actually are now.
- Some pics, their real age and name
Then I might stash the info for later use. But no I am not interested in long email/YM sessions with these girls. Seems like if I chat a long time with girls, even the nice ones will get around to asking for money.
I think of it more as collecting the ultimate black book. So that where ever I may want to go, I would have a few numbers to look up. Girls who are more persistent in asking me to come see them, move up in the que.
You can also try chatting up girls you find online in CB/DIA etc when you are there. "Meet me today for lunch?" In one way they may be online scammers. OTOH, if they got a pussy and look good, maybe it doesn't matter. They can spend $ and work for days in boring Internet cafes for a few WU remittances, or spend a couple hours with you for a meal and maybe a little tip. Easy choice I would think.
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[QUOTE=X Man]On a more upbeat note, let's hope the two of you will be positive contributors after you visit the Philippines.
With over 2000 posts at ISG, I guess I'm also guilty of spending endless hours at promiscuity-prone websites.
X[/QUOTE]
X
Am fast approaching 2000 and prefer to say that we have spent endless hours in promiscuity-prone bars and establishments so we can then spend hours at promiscuity-prone websites......well I like to research a lot :D
Am back soon in PI so will be able to continue my research...along with the leather, heels, studs, PVC......;)...not for me X but the lovely ladies ...:)
Jambo - useful advice as I tend to do same, move them to YM MSN Messenger so you can C2C (cam) with them to make sure they have not gained weight, are actually female and are sexy..
Rampana - CB and DIA are hit and miss, mainly the latter but work it and dont give up and then you find the kanck and the success rate will improve.
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More pix please
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]X
Am back soon in PI so will be able to continue my research...along with the leather, heels, studs, PVC......;)[/QUOTE]For me and my good friend Bop.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]X
Jambo - useful advice as I tend to do same, move them to YM MSN Messenger so you can C2C (cam) with them to make sure they have not gained weight, are actually female and are sexy..
Rampana - CB and DIA are hit and miss, mainly the latter but work it and dont give up and then you find the kanck and the success rate will improve.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the friendly advice WR and Jambo, especially the one not chatting too long because the tendency asking for money.
I will try my luck again when I am on spot.
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Dating sites
rampana, you got to see the chatting and the dating as two different sources of amusement. they can be related, but will not always be. it is much easier if you select 5-10 good leads and focus on working on these. when i say select, it can be wise to be a bit of a sherlock holmes since you will blow of your chances if you portray yourself as serious and chat with three girls from the same family. then better you start out as unserious or just play the "i am only looking for friends"-card until you have isolated the various circles of girls.
it is a piece of cake to arrange females in pi so i would not say it is required to "cyber date" any girl, but it sure speeds things up when it comes to "regular girls". kongkings golden rules of executing the sniffing phase already at home will gain you a hastier access to the knickers. it is a fact and it has worked for hundreds of guys before me.
50% of all girls i date when actually in pi is from dating sites. i never visit for long. if i did this percentage would drop since a mall is a better place to meet females. but the dating sites are the foundation of a successful short term trip. but they can also constitute the the whole warming up the engines thing for a good trip. it can be fun just to chit chat every now and then and build up the tension and expectations.
i never bother with the god fearing "accept me and my family for what i am"-girls. they are boring and most often more fake than the normal ones that has not their guard and defense so high. i even find a direct and positive correlation between the good fearing-ness and how much sl*ts or money monkeys the really are. "it takes one to know one" my friend always replies when i call him a pervert, and the same goes for the good fearing over weight hags on dia. their fraud caution meter is in red zone all the time because they are pure money machines that want to maximize their outcome per spent minute.
better to find 5 or 10 relaxed girls, preferably between 18 and 22 where they still have a bit of playfulness left and did not yet run into all the bullshit that makes them "god fearing". be fairly honest and cut the fake moans and false promises, because most people see right through that crap. these girls are often bored and want a value in chatting with you, just as you want some sort of pay off from them. provide that value in terms of being somewhat real and entertaining, and the rest, i.e. the real life interaction, will come by itself. no one is boring, we just make ourselves boring when we try to be someone we are not in front of someone that are not what they pretend to be.
and the two golden rule when it comes to communicating with females;
- make her laugh.
- talk less abut yourself and more about her.
barba
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I am getting to be pretty direct.
One girl initiates by writing "Hi"
I answer--I will be in Cebu in December-- can we meet? Can we have sex? Coming from the usa.
Answer--oh sure.
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]I am getting to be pretty direct.
One girl initiates by writing "Hi"
I answer--I will be in Cebu in December-- can we meet? Can we have sex? Coming from the usa.
Answer--oh sure.[/QUOTE]
They always say sure to everything. In reality some do some do not.
As you will find out.
Just watch out when somebody readily agrees. She ( He ) maybe a ladyboy
or just playing with you for now. Later demand for money will come.
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Agree
[QUOTE=Sammon]They always say sure to everything. In reality some do some do not.
As you will find out.
Just watch out when somebody readily agrees. She ( He ) maybe a ladyboy
or just playing with you for now. Later demand for money will come.[/QUOTE"
It's classic "bait and switch".
90% of the Pinay's I have met find it next to impossible to think more than 30 minutes ahead. If a girl says she will definitely come and meet you in 30 mins and is on her way, you can assign a 60% probability to it. Agreeing to do something in December is totally meaningless. The guys seriously trying to arrange things for 4 months ahead are either deluding themselves or just feeding their masturbatory imagination.
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Just to be clear for you Tally Ho
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]MarkFalcon33,
I had a chance to read your posts. Not much there other than showing that you spend endless hours looking at sex websites. Your posts on ISG are usually putting down other members posts and not sharring anything that you have actually expierienced in real life. Oh well.[/QUOTE]
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Normally when someone puts a cam girl up and calls it real picture, does not take going to sex sites to tell, or be a rocket scientist to figure out.
If I make a comment, it is not putting someone down, only stating a fact. If I answer someones question IM not 8 months late answering it.
p.s........ Tally Wacker, please learn how to spell
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Years ago, when I asked Jackson to creat this CHAT thread, I never realized how it would become a thread for fools to babble. X
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[QUOTE=Barba]
I never bother with the god fearing "accept me and my family for what I am"-girls. Barba[/QUOTE]
Hey, don't knock God-fearers! Part of the reason for that fearfulness is what they've done, are doing, and will do. Some girls I've been with in the last few days are feeling more fearful, hehe.
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[QUOTE=Mahku]Hey, don't knock God-fearers! Part of the reason for that fearfulness is what they've done, are doing, and will do. Some girls I've been with in the last few days are feeling more fearful, hehe.[/QUOTE]
Mahku
Good to see you are alove.
From my experience most say "God fearing" and a quick chat and cam interspersed with naughty stuff soon figures out if they are really fearful of not :)
And Barba .... girls are always fearful when you are in town...not like yours truly :D
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Meeting Women From Dating Sites
As with others here, I have spent a lot of time organising women through dating sites.
I generally reckon on a return of about 5%. That is, of 100 messages I put out, about 5 are real, not scammers, wanting to meet, prepared to stay with me.
And like Amavida, I have learned that the best way is to choose where I want to be. For each city, there is what I call a catchment, a distance of about 4 hours bus ride, within which women will readily travel to meet.
I schedule the most interesting ones, with backups. However, it often happens that by the time that it is certain that the no show is actually not coming, rather than being late, it is often too late to organise someone else. At this time, pull out the numbers for the P4P girls to act as bed warmers.
Sometimes I am astounded at what happens. last trip, one very pretty damsel had agreed to meet me in CDO. When I asked her how long it would take to get there from her house, she said about 4 hours.
In fact, it took 11 hours, she could not tell me that she lived in Pagadian, and had to travel to firstly collect her cousin, then come to CDO. I was livid at being pushed around, but she was so sincere, and now desperately professes undying love and dedication. After about 6 hours being together. Amazing.
Good luck.
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I was just getting ready to write this one
babe_in_asia
when I saw this---
WARNING I DONT LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if u are that people i will not entertain u..only asian
Why would she write that?
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]I was just getting ready to write this one
Babe_in_asia
When I saw this-
WARNING I don't LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if you are that people I will not entertain u. Only asian
Why would she write that?[/QUOTE]Or another question would be "Why shouldn't she write that". Maybe she's tired of being shagged by whiteguys and wants a change. Maybe she has a loathing or a dislike for Americans. You're not universally loved as you might be aware.
Go out and charm her and let her re-assess her values and statement.
Did you make a comment when all the other DIA girls wrote " I don't like Indians Pakistanis or Arabs" Were not all programmed to like the same.
Some English girls on DIA even wrote " I don't like whingeing Aussies " but please note Red Kilt that I told them Aussies were great people LOL
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]I was just getting ready to write this one
babe_in_asia
when I saw this---
WARNING I DONT LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if u are that people i will not entertain u..only asian
Why would she write that?[/QUOTE]Means she has been broken hearted by an american or white man, so time to explore other stuff .. haha
But that doesn't mean White men are totally off the menu .. :D :D
As to why a girl would write something so silly - including such as "NO TIME WASTERS, I AM ONE MAN WOMAN, NO FUN SEEKERS" well, Welcome to Philippines.
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]I was just getting ready to write this one
babe_in_asia
when I saw this---
WARNING I DONT LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if u are that people i will not entertain u..only asian
Why would she write that?[/QUOTE]
Well IMHO some would say as she thinks the Asian culture is easier to adapt to so for her it is an easier step to make if she lives outside the Philippines
Some girls however will say that Asian guys have generally smaller dicks, pay more/are more generous, last far shorter in the shagging stakes and are not as demanding in the bedroom as some of us white/american men :D So a much easier time, more spoilt, more time to spend shopping and with girlfriends etc. Less time being a LBFM for us dirty minded white men :)
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And then you hear some say they dislike Koreans or Japanese, etc.
My guess is she's had a few bad experiences and then created a negative stereotype. This seems to be more common with the uneducated types, but unfortunately happens with educated people too -- and certainly not only in the Philippines.
Of course the rudeness of her profile will ensure that the negative stereotype will be reinforced.
X
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]I was just getting ready to write this one
babe_in_asia
when I saw this---
WARNING I DONT LIKE WHITE MAN OR AMERICAN MAN so if u are that people i will not entertain u..only asian
Why would she write that?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mahku]Hey, don't knock God-fearers! Part of the reason for that fearfulness is what they've done, are doing, and will do. Some girls I've been with in the last few days are feeling more fearful, hehe.[/QUOTE]True, Mahku. There are God fearers and god fearers. The second group actually to be preferred, since they are the perfect balance between lust and virtue. :)
But some fear just to much. During a couple of trips I met one 18 year old absolutely adorable girl that unfortunately was fearing god to such an extent that she would not go pass jerking me off while I sucked her puffy tits. Innocent and dead certain that her fanny was closed until after she has heard the church bells. Her mind was not ready. Her body was, making her jeans all damp in the crutch. Sometimes even wet all through the layers of cloth, but God had a firm grip of her. Or rather has since I probed her some days ago on Yahoo. She suggested I would buy her a Mc Donalds (yes the whole restaurant) and then she would open up like virgin Mary did for God. But it would be quite nice encounters anyway. We would lay on bed. Me with a pulse rushing and fighting the urge to just rip of her panties and run away with them as a trophy to sniff when feeling suicidal in my office in icy hell. During those afternoons in MyHotel we where slowly exploring the world of sex. Her body shaking in excitement and her pulse pumping endorphins, making her eyes all glassy and her teen age nipples erect. And then her small hand on my hard T Rex finishing the job in minutes. Only to be followed by an endless dwelling on the importance for me to embrace both Jesus and God during the remaining minutes of her visit.
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Finding True Love, Mission (near) Impossible
In looking not just for sex or short time liasons, I have found that the quickest way to separate women interested in YOU from those interested in what you CAN DO for them, is to simply tell them you're not coming to their country.
This is a very quick way to cut down on the flood of contacts from DIA, the majority of whom won't waste time talking to you, and chat fees, if they think you're not coming there to rescue them.
These women are in he*ll for all intents and purposes. Most of them are poor, have no prospects (especially if over 30) and are living in a really bad country, the Philippines. They are desperate to get out of there or to find some rich guy to raise their pathetically poor standard of living.
If you're looking for love the best thing you can do is change you paradigm as many have advised here, and just go for short time sex and companionship, or to tell them you're not coming there, in which case only the ones that really like YOU and not what you can do for them will continue to chat with you.
Further, of the hundreds of women I have chatted with in the Phil, very few can offer anything to contribute to the relationship beyond cooking, cleaning and sex. Why should the man be expected to fully support her also be asked to help with her family? Despite the Filipina's very sweet demeanor in contrast to all American C***ts, it's really a bad deal to get hooked up with most of these women. Once you do she will restrict your freedom, and exhibit other bad qualities of the wife: jealousy,nagging, etc.
Agree? Disagree? No problem, am open to discussion or a change of mind, if you can present convincing evidence otherwise.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]....................Further, of the hundreds of women I have chatted with in the Phil, very few can offer anything to contribute to the relationship beyond cooking, cleaning and sex.......[/QUOTE]
It's a good line TCO and mostly your statement is around 95% correct but, as with everything, there are always a few exceptions to the rule.
Probably most guys are looking for one of those women in the elusive 5%.
But your point is good to keep in mind by those who trawl through DIA at al.
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Girls Say the Darndest Things!
A girl in Cherry Blossoms sent this to me today:
[quote].if your looking only for a girl that can give you baby first,It's better don't waste your time to chat with me ok.....You better find a baby maker...I don't like a guy like that[/quote]Seems like a sensible girl! But I want one of those "Baby Makers"! haha
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Finding True Love
TCO, I think you are a cynical and jaundiced man.
I am one of those who has been looking for true love in the Phils for quite some time..
And I have found it.
In fact, I have found four suitable women.
All are basically self sufficient. Three have never asked for a cent. One has asked for help to relocate to take up a job offer. All are reasonably well educated and can carry a decent conversation, and they are good company.
All in later 20's early 30's. I could take them anywhere, in any company, and they would carry themselves OK.
So, they are there. But hard to find. And I have had to resist the temptation to just go for the easy root. It has meant a lot of research, communication, but worth it in the end.
Pearls. Keepers.
G
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Which is it?
[QUOTE=Gangles]I am one of those who has been looking for true love in the Phils for quite some time..
And I have found it.
In fact, I have found four suitable women.
G[/QUOTE]You found true love? Or you have 4 lined up? Its not possible to have both.
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Size Of Asians Vs Westerners
As a side interest, I have been doin some research on this issue.
Statistically, Korean penis is about one inch shorter than white American.
But there is cnsiderable variation in size. When I quizz some of the more senior bar girls/waitresses/mamasans, they say that the Korean customer can vary in size from small to very large. Much like westerners.
So I think thaqt it would actually be difficult for bargirls to distinguish that asians are smaller. Maybe not so many really big schlongs.
From a statistical viewpoint, if we assume a skewed normal distribution, we get one bell curve for each racial type. And any two bell curves will mostly overlap, with the only difference being the tails at teh high end of teh size table.
I was watching a short porn video from YouPorn this afternoon, and the guy was black American, hung like a horse. So his member would fall in the far end of the tail, because there may be only a few hundred like him in a population of millions of black American men.
Average length for caucasian Americans is 6", black Americans, 6.5", no figures fro chicano Americans. Nor all the other races in the American melting pot.
Italian caucasians are about 1" longer than American on average..
Koreans, who are racially pure, average is about 1" shorter than caucasian American.
Very complicated.
But always an interesting topic of conversation.
G
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irish23
irish23 says in her profile that she is "strict". I ask her what she means and she says she does not know. I say that she wrote that in her profile and she again says she has no idea. This happens over and over again--they write things and seem unaware of what they have written and express surprise or confusion when I ask them about what they wrote in their profile. Yet on tagged many seem to have many interests and sophisticated (relative to the impression one could form on DIA) tastes. Could this be a language issue?
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Nice point
[QUOTE=Westcoast1]You found true love? Or you have 4 lined up? Its not possible to have both.[/QUOTE]
Nice point WC
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Cuba Tourist, there is the possibility that she didn´t even write her profile. There are some ¨helpful¨guys (even at least one ISG forum member), who write the profiles for girls they know and even regularly check out the messages the chicas receive.
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Yes, I know and I think that is OK for someone to help out in that way. But this profile was not written by Greg London--his work is much better. But maybe she copied it from another girl. Still, you would think she would know what it said!
Another one writes she would like to travel but cannot name anywhere she would like to go. New York, Paris....say something!
By the way, we spoke on the phone when I was in Lima but never got together. Maybe next time. I had an amigos.com girlfriend there. Not so pretty and 10 pounds overweight but nice and fun.
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Well I'm going to meet up with one who says in her profile that in addition to playing the usual badminton she also enjoys reading and playing scrabble. Should be interesting.
Hope to see you next time you make it down here.
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The problem with Western women
[QUOTE=Mephisto666]If one is looking for love why not seek it from a woman of a similar background such as yours? Why not seek love from a western woman who is and comes from a family that is financially sound? This way you remove all doubt if she really loves you or not.
There are millions of Filipinas located in industrialized nations all over the world if Filipinas are just your cup of tea.
This internet sex forum perpetuated myth that all western women are fat and display rancid behavior is ridiculous.
As you have predicted they will for the most part display all the characteristics of western women and you will be expected to shoulder the economic burden of this cohabitation.[/QUOTE]
It is not an accident that there are so many dating sites designed to match western men with foreign ladies and few for women seeking foreign men.
Western women have earned their bad reputation over time. In the USA the culture supports single women, they can even get pregnant and raise children on their own. Men in USA and similar countries have little value to western women EXCEPT if they are much higher in income and can offer monetary/material incentives.
The morals of USA are such that there is no emphasis on loyalty or monogamy. Unless you are substancially above a woman in income here, you will be mostly ignored. The women in the USA are spoiled brats, most of them.
They talk and act like men. The other exception is if you are exceptionally handsome, then you will be sought for sex primarily.
I have been both rich and poor here. When I was rich it was easy to get women but the problem was finding any quality. Now I am poor and invisible to most women here.
With respect to Filipinas, I guess you cannot have your cake and eat it too.
If you look to women who are educated, speak English well and have some income, you will get western knockoffs, not much different in their behavior and attitudes than American women-they want equal rights and power.
If you look toward the poorer Filipinas you will have more feminine, obedient and less conflict, but then you won't get any contribution financially or in any other way than someone who keeps house.
As I said in the o.p., just having short time liasons for sex is looking better and better all the time, as I am unlikely to find what I am seeking, even in a country where I am comparatively rich.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]
Men in USA and similar countries have little value to western women EXCEPT if they are much higher in income and can offer monetary/material incentives.
The morals of USA are such that there is no emphasis on loyalty or monogamy. Unless you are substancially above a woman in income here, you will be mostly ignored. [/QUOTE]
Don't be naive, man! It's the same in the Philippines...even worse.
Do you honestly think a 20 year old Filipina is genuinely attracted to some old white ex-military dude out of some "feminine" and "obedient" notion of romance? It's mostly about money too. The only difference is, a person of average means in America is considered almost a millionaire to women in the Philippines.
In fact, Filipinas are even money-grubbing. Their survival is literally on the line. I've never had an American lady friend ask me for money. The Filipina variety almost invariably will.
I used to also think that Filipinas are an improvement over American women. From personal experience, it's just wishful thinking. Here in America, if a girl likes me, it's likely because she genuinely has affection for me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet.
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strict
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]irish23 says in her profile that she is "strict". I ask her what she means and she says she does not know. I say that she wrote that in her profile and she again says she has no idea. This happens over and over again--they write things and seem unaware of what they have written and express surprise or confusion when I ask them about what they wrote in their profile. Yet on tagged many seem to have many interests and sophisticated (relative to the impression one could form on DIA) tastes. Could this be a language issue?[/QUOTE]
I think "strict" in this context is supposed to mean something akin to law abiding, doing what is told etc. She hears something like a strict teacher and then applies it to the person who is being constrained by the rules rather than the one who is imposing the rules.
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Don't be naive, man! It's the same in the Philippines...even worse.
Do you honestly think a 20 year old Filipina is genuinely attracted to some old white ex-military dude out of some "feminine" and "obedient" notion of romance? It's mostly about money too. The only difference is, a person of average means in America is considered almost a millionaire to women in the Philippines.
In fact, Filipinas are even money-grubbing. Their survival is literally on the line. I've never had an American lady friend ask me for money. The Filipina variety almost invariably will.
I used to also think that Filipinas are an improvement over American women. From personal experience, it's just wishful thinking. Here in America, if a girl likes me, it's likely because she genuinely has affection for me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet.[/QUOTE]thank god you spoke up FF!
Mate's, there is NO NEED to guess if she likes you or your wallet.
It's all about our 'pesonality' as one wag here used to put it.
get that through your heads guy's!
AV
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Let's be honest about what's going on here
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]It is not an accident that there are so many dating sites designed to match western men with foreign ladies and few for women seeking foreign men.
Western women have earned their bad reputation over time. In the USA the culture supports single women, they can even get pregnant and raise children on their own. Men in USA and similar countries have little value to western women EXCEPT if they are much higher in income and can offer monetary/material incentives.
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By and large physical looks and youth are towards the most important features that guys look for in selecting a mate, whereas economic and social status appear towards the top of the list for women.
By coming to economic basket cases such as the Philippines, western men are able to arbitrage the rankings and find someone 20-30 years younger and quite a bit prettier than they could back home. Generally speaking Western women are going to be out of luck unless they are Russian hookers looking for Middle Eastern guys or pretty young things willing to become the latest status symbol for Chinese nuveau multimillionaires.
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Did anyone read this news today ...Shocking!!
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[url]http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/SEAsia/Story/STIStory_575134.html[/url]
Briton slain over love triangle
MANILA - A BRITISH man who went to the Philippines to propose to a woman he met in an Internet chat room was stabbed to death by her jealous lover on Sunday, police said.
John Lorne McDonald's would-be bride, Nanqueen Romero, 31, also sustained multiple wounds after being attacked by her Filipino lover, police said in a statement.
McDonald organised a party at Romero's home to ask for her hand in marriage, police said, but it was not clear if she had told him about her Filipino boyfriend, Anselmo Locastales, who turned up and attacked the couple. Locastales is on the run, police said.
The British Embassy could not be reached Sunday and no personal details about McDonald were immediately available.
Impoverished Philippine women often use matchmaking websites to find foreign husbands in the hope of escaping the country for a better life. -- AFP
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Money Grubbing
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Don't be naive, man! It's the same in the Philippines...even worse.
Do you honestly think a 20 year old Filipina is genuinely attracted to some old white ex-military dude out of some "feminine" and "obedient" notion of romance? It's mostly about money too. The only difference is, a person of average means in America is considered almost a millionaire to women in the Philippines.
In fact, Filipinas are even money-grubbing. Their survival is literally on the line. I've never had an American lady friend ask me for money. The Filipina variety almost invariably will.
I used to also think that Filipinas are an improvement over American women. From personal experience, it's just wishful thinking. Here in America, if a girl likes me, it's likely because she genuinely has affection for me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet.[/QUOTE]
Furry Friend,
My counter to those who say "Filipina women only want your money" is, "No woman in the US dates a man without carefully evaluating his finances." Don't kid yourself by thinking that American women are free from financial considerations in matters of sex and love.
If you doubt this, try being a divorced schoolteacher and see how far it gets you.
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[QUOTE=SergeantRay]Furry Friend,
My counter to those who say "Filipina women only want your money" is, "No woman in the US dates a man without carefully evaluating his finances." Don't kid yourself by thinking that American women are free from financial considerations in matters of sex and love.
If you doubt this, try being a divorced schoolteacher and see how far it gets you.[/QUOTE]
Whoa, nowhere did I say American women aren't money grubbers, only that it's less than in the Philippines.
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Another unfortunate victim of filipina stupidity!
[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Did anyone read this news today ...Shocking!!
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[url]http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/SEAsia/Story/STIStory_575134.html[/url]
Briton slain over love triangle
MANILA - A BRITISH man who went to the Philippines to propose to a woman he met in an Internet chat room was stabbed to death by her jealous lover on Sunday, police said.
John Lorne McDonald's would-be bride, Nanqueen Romero, 31, also sustained multiple wounds after being attacked by her Filipino lover, police said in a statement.
McDonald organised a party at Romero's home to ask for her hand in marriage, police said, but it was not clear if she had told him about her Filipino boyfriend, Anselmo Locastales, who turned up and attacked the couple. Locastales is on the run, police said.
The British Embassy could not be reached Sunday and no personal details about McDonald were immediately available.
Impoverished Philippine women often use matchmaking websites to find foreign husbands in the hope of escaping the country for a better life. -- AFP[/QUOTE]
Yes....another guy murdered! I just posted my comments in the Manila section with a short story on what these girls are capable of.
ITs nothing more than economics. For you deluded souls who like to believe how handsome and witty you are. I will say it again the only reason a younger filipina is with you is your money.
I would be very careful of sending money to any of these girls unless you are married to them or have some real permanent conection. Even then you just dont know.
Surprise...your not the only dumbass chat mate sending her money. I suggest you guys live in the PI for a time, and what you see will will leave your head shaking. 2-3 week trips is hardly enough time to get a feel for the people.
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[QUOTE=Frank4220]I will say it again the only reason a younger filipina is with you is your money.
I would be very careful of sending money to any of these girls unless you are married to them or have some real permanent conection. Even then you just dont know.
Surprise...your not the only dumbass chat mate sending her money. [/QUOTE]
As I wrote on another thread, I had a 20 year old Filipina ask me for money whom nobody would normally expect. She's a university student, upper-middle class, lives in a big house in Manila and traveled extensively throughout Southeast Asia. Her and I were chatting away on Facebook one night when she suddenly asked for $150.
If someone like her sees us as ATM machines, guess how 98% of less fortunate Filipinas see us?
I've made four trips to the Philippines. I've learned to have fun but never to take them too seriously. I've also developed greater appreciation for friendships back in America. I don't have to be paranoid wondering whether someone is my friend for financial gain.
If y'all want to get involved with a Filipina, do it knowing that it's primarily a business transaction. You give her material comforts. She gives you sex and domestic housework. Nothing wrong with that. That's how it used to be in the old days. Just don't expect her to be around once the cash is depleted.
I think most guys who send money already know he's merely buying her attention (that's why he's sending the money). He's just wishfully thinking she'll eventually be converted.
Don't get me wrong. She'll probably feel grateful and respectful towards you. But it's unlikely to be romantic. A 19-year-old Filipina hooking up with a 57 year old white man runs counter to everything Nature intended.
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[QUOTE=Mephisto666]It’s not shocking at all it happens all the time here. An extremely wealthy German playboy was guned down in Makati in broad daylight for his "nighttime" activities. They say he barked up the wrong tree or sniffed the wrong leg… that leg belonging to one of his employees who was dating a native at the time……
[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20100618-276191/German-hotel-exec-shot-dead-in-Makati[/url][/QUOTE]
Yeah, i was following that story for quite a while, hoping that they will catch the gunman...nothing till now...i think who ever shoots first is the winner..i should play more video games :).i have not read any hired killers getting caught lately..just last month parklane hotel in cebu owner was shot dead.. some japanese, indian money lenders and taiwanese business guy were shot dead...nothing happened.
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And that is why...
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]As I wrote on another thread, I had a 20 year old Filipina ask me for money whom nobody would normally expect. She's a university student, upper-middle class, lives in a big house in Manila and traveled extensively throughout Southeast Asia. Her and I were chatting away on Facebook one night when she suddenly asked for $150.
If someone like her sees us as ATM machines, guess how 98% of less fortunate Filipinas see us?
I've made four trips to the Philippines. I've learned to have fun but never to take them too seriously. I've also developed greater appreciation for friendships back in America. I don't have to be paranoid wondering whether someone is my friend for financial gain.
If y'all want to get involved with a Filipina, do it knowing that it's primarily a business transaction. You give her material comforts. She gives you sex and domestic housework. Nothing wrong with that. That's how it used to be in the old days. Just don't expect her to be around once the cash is depleted.
I think most guys who send money already know he's merely buying her attention (that's why he's sending the money). He's just wishfully thinking she'll eventually be converted.
Don't get me wrong. She'll probably feel grateful and respectful towards you. But it's unlikely to be romantic. A 19-year-old Filipina hooking up with a 57 year old white man runs counter to everything Nature intended.[/QUOTE]
And that is why I am going to hook up with an older UGLY woman in the Phil if I decide to 'settle down'. Not only is she likely to be more loyal but I won't have to worry as much about her having a Filipino b/f on the side.
I am in my early 60's now, but I look about 10-15 years younger. So far I have not been talking to any woman there under 35, but I probably will bump that up to not younger than 40. 40 is considered old there for a woman. Just old enough to not worry about her getting sick on me, having her outlive me, but not so young that she is likely to leave me for no good reason.
They just tacked on another P2500 to visa extension beyond 45 days. If the filipinas did not speak some English and were not so desperate, there would be absolutely no reason to even think of setting foot in that s**thole. I have considered other countries, but the language barriers and the relative coldness of the women compared to Filipinas dissuades me.
You have to admit, regardless of the reason, many Filipinas know exactly what buttons to push to get you to like them.
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[QUOTE=Frank4220]Yes....another guy murdered! I just posted my comments in the Manila section with a short story on what these girls are capable of.
ITs nothing more than economics. For you deluded souls who like to believe how handsome and witty you are. I will say it again the only reason a younger filipina is with you is your money.
I would be very careful of sending money to any of these girls unless you are married to them or have some real permanent conection. Even then you just dont know.
Surprise...your not the only dumbass chat mate sending her money. I suggest you guys live in the PI for a time, and what you see will will leave your head shaking. 2-3 week trips is hardly enough time to get a feel for the people.[/QUOTE]
Frank I agree with you, I'm from Asia and lots and lots of Filipinos, Indians, Thai's, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc have made it in America and Europe..they feel like part of the adopted country...they are accepted as they are and mingle with the society..i can cite not 100...not 1000 but a million example of how Asian's have become successful in the west and are part of the society.
BUT, when a guy from west comes to Asia...They are never accepted as part of their own culture....they invent 100 ways to suck money out of you...once you are out on ATM...you are thrown away like a discarded card. I have never seen or read any post in Thai or PH where a farang says he truly feels accepted as part of Thai or filipino culture, even if he marries a local women...WHY IS THAT?
Why are people from the west only seen as walking ATM's and even after spending 1000's and 1000's of dollars never accepted into the Asian society..they are always outsiders.
And we know this is not only about money...'cos Japan and Korea being rich.....the discrimination is equal in rich Asian countries as well. I don't understand why farangs needs to make a compromise in lifestyle while in Asia..while an Asian has full freedom to do what he wants in the west.
Only answer i have is...Asian society or culture is not mature enough to accept other's ...may be in 200 years..things will change...till then...folks from west will as you mentioned be looked for only after their money. Its really a sad thing to say.
Farangs in Asia will be judged on the amount of money they have not the intellect or other good qualities they bring. Its shameful that all Asian countries bar none have this kinda attitude...and on top of that when they go to west ..they demand equal rights...is there anything else that could be termed more Hippocratic than this...
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Frank I agree with you, I'm from Asia and lots and lots of Filipinos, Indians, Thai's, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese etc have made it in America and Europe..they feel like part of the adopted country...they are accepted as they are and mingle with the society..i can cite not 100...not 1000 but a million example of how Asian's have become successful in the west and are part of the society.
BUT, when a guy from west comes to Asia...They are never accepted as part of their own culture....they invent 100 ways to suck money out of you...once you are out on ATM...you are thrown away like a discarded card. I have never seen or read any post in Thai or PH where a farang says he truly feels accepted as part of Thai or filipino culture, even if he marries a local women...WHY IS THAT?
Why are people from the west only seen as walking ATM's and even after spending 1000's and 1000's of dollars never accepted into the Asian society..they are always outsiders.
And we know this is not only about money...'cos Japan and Korea being rich.....the discrimination is equal in rich Asian countries as well. I don't understand why farangs needs to make a compromise in lifestyle while in Asia..while an Asian has full freedom to do what he wants in the west.
Only answer i have is...Asian society or culture is not mature enough to accept other's ...may be in 200 years..things will change...till then...folks from west will as you mentioned be looked for only after their money. Its really a sad thing to say.
Farangs in Asia will be judged on the amount of money they have not the intellect or other good qualities they bring. Its shameful that all Asian countries bar none have this kinda attitude...and on top of that when they go to west ..they demand equal rights...is there anything else that could be termed more Hippocratic than this...[/QUOTE]
I politely disagree. It depends on the circles you deal with. You description fits impoverished farming communities, red light oriented scenes and perhaps the little papa-mama store owners.
Once you are in university educated circles, your own degree of education is understood and respected. You will be addressed with your academic titles as a show of respect.
Secondly, dont mix Thailand and the Philippines. Thai nationalist ideology was influenced by the Nazis. Their concept of "Thai"-land as opposed to Siam is telling.
Filipinos are free of that junk. Much more welcoming and less communication problem.
Add to that that expats tend to establish their own communities and have often a tendency to turn amateur-anthropologist observing the local aborigines. I m part of some discussion boards and it is shocking how little the guys read but how much they claim to know.
So: It is a dialectic relationship that often depends on your own approach. I gave on Thailand not because of the people but the legal system and official discrimination against farangs. The people I deal with I hold dear and in respect.
The idea of filipinos and asian (as such) is an expressions of ignorance.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]And that is why I am going to hook up with an older UGLY woman in the Phil if I decide to 'settle down'. Not only is she likely to be more loyal but I won't have to worry as much about her having a Filipino b/f on the side.
I am in my early 60's now, but I look about 10-15 years younger. So far I have not been talking to any woman there under 35, but I probably will bump that up to not younger than 40. 40 is considered old there for a woman. Just old enough to not worry about her getting sick on me, having her outlive me, but not so young that she is likely to leave me for no good reason.
They just tacked on another P2500 to visa extension beyond 45 days. If the filipinas did not speak some English and were not so desperate, there would be absolutely no reason to even think of setting foot in that s**thole. I have considered other countries, but the language barriers and the relative coldness of the women compared to Filipinas dissuades me.
You have to admit, regardless of the reason, many Filipinas know exactly what buttons to push to get you to like them.[/QUOTE]
If you are going to settle down in Phi you are better off marrying a younger girl with no kids. Older girls with kids will be a different problem in itself. Atleast if you marry a young girl and make your own kids you are supporting your own.
Yes, younger girls will probably outlive you. This is why you need to make sure you have enough money to support them. Having said that very few girls will play around if you are there physically all the time. It is only the weekend warriors who get really scammed. besides I am sure if you have kids with them they will be more devoted to you.
Once again in any relationship it depends on the love and trust. If she is happy with you, she will not wander.
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accepted
[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Why are people from the west only seen as walking ATM's and even after spending 1000's and 1000's of dollars never accepted into the Asian society..they are always outsiders.[/QUOTE]Concur. They will even tell you (and others) that outsiders, even foreign spouses, are only accepted to a degree. Even if I learn bisayan and marry a local girl, buy a large home for all of us (the entire family) to live in, support them completely for, say, 10 years, I will be the least accepted amongst them. Thai, Indonesian, Filippines, doesn't matter. I was not born one of them. If there is trouble within the clan, the foreigner will always be either the first one they take aim against, or the first one they will turn to for help. This alone should be a good indicator that foreigners are always viewed as an 'outsider', and always will be. There is another board I read from time to time, where this topic came up. Even filipinos wrote in to give this 'outsider always' credence. "Foreigner always a outsider. Maybe it not good to view as ATM, but outsider yes. Even I marry to him, hes outsider to my family always. He's not one of us. Not a problem I think, but never will I tell him hes not accepted. "
Another example. My neighbor's daughter (Jenny) is in college. Her best friend in high school was Laotian (hmongs). Lets call the laotian friend Cammi. The laotian family rents a home nearby, there are about 10 of them living there. Nearby that are two other homes, also rented by the same family, relatives, aunts/uncles, etc. Each of those also house about 8-10 people (so many cousins). The families are integrated like you can't believe. [OPINION ONLY: They live like pigs. The parents work a lot, and leave child-rearing to the older teenage siblings. Jenny shared that the TV is on 24 hours and is used as the babysitter. There are kids watching TV/Xbox even in the middle of the night. They rarely eat together as a family or have family time. ] Various cousins spend the night or eat meals at the different homes like its a regular part of daily living (to go to someone else's house, grab some food, and sleep on the couch or floor, for a day or two). Jenny used to have sleepovers there. Two years ago Cammi got pregnant, dropped school and married her white local boyfriend. They even lived together for a while in Cammi's parent's home while she was pregnant and shortly after the baby came.
Recently I'm at the neighbor's house, we grilled burgers. Jenny shared that Cammi's husband pulled Jenny aside to complain about his wife's family: "They seem not to accept me. I work hard and help provide. My dad buys them groceries sometimes. I have learned and continue to learn their language. I help around the house when we come over. But, there is just something that leaves me outside. Her gramma has never spoken to me even when I say Hi. " No great shock there, fella. You ain't part of their clan. Jenny told Cammi of the husband's despair. Jenny said that Cammi said, "Oh no. He does not need to feel this way. Its true, he's not part of our family, he's my husband. Its just our way. " Inside, I smiled a bit, knowing what was coming from the Jenny. Jenny said she asked Cammi if he would be accepted if he were Laotian? Yes. Jenny asked her father and I if that doesn't make Cammi and her family racists? Why yes hun, you're catching on to another culture's hidden aspect. We are all racist to some degree (even if we aren't aware of it).
In my culture (or multi-culture), in-laws often come to love (or despise) each other. I saw an older mother at the aiport seeing her daughter off give a hug and say, "Love you. " Then she hugged her son-in-law and said the same thing. I saw my own mother do this also. I'm pretty sure Cammi's husband will never get a LOVE YOU in any language from any in-law.
A guy I know in Mindanao married a young pinay 6 years ago. He retired there and got a place not far from her family (I thought he was nuts because of the age difference, and the place they live in is a sh*thole). It was good times. He's helped support her family there. But, its hard times now, and his business here went bust. As the money dried up, he now has barely enough to make the payments on his new place there and feed the two of them. Now that he's not giving mama any more money, they don't like him anymore. They even asked the daughter to move back in with them. He used to say, "They accept me completely. " What a changed tune now. What's that, B*b? Her mother never said LOVE YOU? Yes, they love you as much as they love their lawnmower. As long as it works.
Accepted? Its still about the nickels?
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Exactly!
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]As I wrote on another thread, I had a 20 year old Filipina ask me for money whom nobody would normally expect. She's a university student, upper-middle class, lives in a big house in Manila and traveled extensively throughout Southeast Asia. Her and I were chatting away on Facebook one night when she suddenly asked for $150.
If someone like her sees us as ATM machines, guess how 98% of less fortunate Filipinas see us?
I've made four trips to the Philippines. I've learned to have fun but never to take them too seriously. I've also developed greater appreciation for friendships back in America. I don't have to be paranoid wondering whether someone is my friend for financial gain.
If y'all want to get involved with a Filipina, do it knowing that it's primarily a business transaction. You give her material comforts. She gives you sex and domestic housework. Nothing wrong with that. That's how it used to be in the old days. Just don't expect her to be around once the cash is depleted.
I think most guys who send money already know he's merely buying her attention (that's why he's sending the money). He's just wishfully thinking she'll eventually be converted.
Don't get me wrong. She'll probably feel grateful and respectful towards you. But it's unlikely to be romantic. A 19-year-old Filipina hooking up with a 57 year old white man runs counter to everything Nature intended.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%! I do think most, ISG board members are well informed and know the game here in the Philippines.
Its really interesting how we use the internet to our advantage but on the other side, these girls are just as adapt or even more in using the technology to their advantage.
The money we have does not really give us as much leverage on these girls as we think. They will throw it all away in the blink of an eye. The tuitition, living expenses, money for family. Alot of these girls are really small brained.
But in some cases they are dangerous and even deadly.
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1309418/Briton-28-killed-Philippines-jealous-boyfriend-woman-intended-marry.html[/url]
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Polish woman on DIA?
What does Maron-chan from Wroclaw want? I find her comments demeaning because I go to DIA to find a place where age doesn't matter, as they say. I don't want to be told that she thinks I am scum. Let her go to Match.com or wherever.
Maron-chan from Wroclaw in Poland
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Hi~!
I had an account here some time ago but I deleted it. And here I am again 8D !
I'm in love in manga, anime, dramas, jmusic etc. But I like other music, too. ♡
Please don't write to me if you're stupid or too old ♡
I want to meet a Male or Female
with age from 18 to 26
and I want to meet for Friendship.
I don't want to meet people who are mean or who think only about sex. Sorry! ♡
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[QUOTE=Sammon]If you are going to settle down in Phi you are better off marrying a younger girl with no kids. Older girls with kids will be a different problem in itself. Atleast if you marry a young girl and make your own kids you are supporting your own.
Yes, younger girls will probably outlive you. This is why you need to make sure you have enough money to support them. Having said that very few girls will play around if you are there physically all the time. It is only the weekend warriors who get really scammed. besides I am sure if you have kids with them they will be more devoted to you.
Once again in any relationship it depends on the love and trust. If she is happy with you, she will not wander.[/QUOTE]
Nope, the younger ones, under 30 are too flighty, too impulsive and change their minds with the direction of the wind. They are also more likely to have filipino b/f, a recipe for disaster (ever notice how hostile/angry looking the filipino men are in the photos your chatmates send you?)
The older ones with grown kids sometimes also have their kids earnings as means of support, meaning you will have less pressure from the family for handouts.
If they are above 25 yrs old about, and have no kids or have never been in a serious long term relationship, then there is often something wrong with them and/or they are career feminist types.
I have had many of these career women knock on my door. Their story is inevitably the same, they want a partner, but they don't have the time or motivation to devote to a man. They want a man at their convenience. This especially seems to hold true for teachers. If they are not on chat at least twice a week to chat with me or they seem independent, or have any of the other bad characteristics of western women, I drop them. I would rather have a slightly stupid maid type than a career woman nagging or otherwise being demanding.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Concur. They will even tell you (and others) that outsiders, even foreign spouses, are only accepted to a degree. Even if I learn bisayan and marry a local girl, buy a large home for all of us (the entire family) to live in, support them completely for, say, 10 years, I will be the least accepted amongst them. Thai, Indonesian, Filippines, doesn't matter. I was not born one of them. If there is trouble within the clan, the foreigner will always be either the first one they take aim against, or the first one they will turn to for help. This alone should be a good indicator that foreigners are always viewed as an 'outsider', and always will be. There is another board I read from time to time, where this topic came up. Even filipinos wrote in to give this 'outsider always' credence. "Foreigner always a outsider. Maybe it not good to view as ATM, but outsider yes. Even I marry to him, hes outsider to my family always. He's not one of us. Not a problem I think, but never will I tell him hes not accepted. "
Another example. My neighbor's daughter (Jenny) is in college. Her best friend in high school was Laotian (hmongs). Lets call the laotian friend Cammi. The laotian family rents a home nearby, there are about 10 of them living there. Nearby that are two other homes, also rented by the same family, relatives, aunts/uncles, etc. Each of those also house about 8-10 people (so many cousins). The families are integrated like you can't believe. [OPINION ONLY: They live like pigs. The parents work a lot, and leave child-rearing to the older teenage siblings. Jenny shared that the TV is on 24 hours and is used as the babysitter. There are kids watching TV/Xbox even in the middle of the night. They rarely eat together as a family or have family time. ] Various cousins spend the night or eat meals at the different homes like its a regular part of daily living (to go to someone else's house, grab some food, and sleep on the couch or floor, for a day or two). Jenny used to have sleepovers there. Two years ago Cammi got pregnant, dropped school and married her white local boyfriend. They even lived together for a while in Cammi's parent's home while she was pregnant and shortly after the baby came.
Recently I'm at the neighbor's house, we grilled burgers. Jenny shared that Cammi's husband pulled Jenny aside to complain about his wife's family: "They seem not to accept me. I work hard and help provide. My dad buys them groceries sometimes. I have learned and continue to learn their language. I help around the house when we come over. But, there is just something that leaves me outside. Her gramma has never spoken to me even when I say Hi. " No great shock there, fella. You ain't part of their clan. Jenny told Cammi of the husband's despair. Jenny said that Cammi said, "Oh no. He does not need to feel this way. Its true, he's not part of our family, he's my husband. Its just our way. " Inside, I smiled a bit, knowing what was coming from the Jenny. Jenny said she asked Cammi if he would be accepted if he were Laotian? Yes. Jenny asked her father and I if that doesn't make Cammi and her family racists? Why yes hun, you're catching on to another culture's hidden aspect. We are all racist to some degree (even if we aren't aware of it).
In my culture (or multi-culture), in-laws often come to love (or despise) each other. I saw an older mother at the aiport seeing her daughter off give a hug and say, "Love you. " Then she hugged her son-in-law and said the same thing. I saw my own mother do this also. I'm pretty sure Cammi's husband will never get a LOVE YOU in any language from any in-law.
A guy I know in Mindanao married a young pinay 6 years ago. He retired there and got a place not far from her family (I thought he was nuts because of the age difference, and the place they live in is a sh*thole). It was good times. He's helped support her family there. But, its hard times now, and his business here went bust. As the money dried up, he now has barely enough to make the payments on his new place there and feed the two of them. Now that he's not giving mama any more money, they don't like him anymore. They even asked the daughter to move back in with them. He used to say, "They accept me completely. " What a changed tune now. What's that, B*b? Her mother never said LOVE YOU? Yes, they love you as much as they love their lawnmower. As long as it works.
Accepted? Its still about the nickels?[/QUOTE]
Hmongs are/were a hilltribe in mostly Laos. Hired by the CIA to fight the Vietnamese and the Laotian guerilla movement during the war. Then abandoned by the US in a second and persecuted by the new Laotian regime who had to fry some fish with them. Many escaped to Thailand and were recently delivered by the "Democrat" government, yes, to the Laotians. Some even carried on stretchers as they were to frail to cross the border on their own feet...
Some made it to the US.
To equate such a tribal community with the filipinas in general is more than a stretch. Why not equate aboriginal tribes in rural Australia and their problems with the students Sidney University?
It would be nice to stop confusing geography with social structures.
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[QUOTE=Thaifun]Hmongs are/were a hilltribe in mostly Laos. Hired by the CIA to fight the Vietnamese and the Laotian guerilla movement during the war. Then abandoned by the US in a second and persecuted by the new Laotian regime who had to fry some fish with them. Many escaped to Thailand and were recently delivered by the "Democrat" government, yes, to the Laotians. Some even carried on stretchers as they were to frail to cross the border on their own feet...
Some made it to the US.
To equate such a tribal community with the filipinas in general is more than a stretch. Why not equate aboriginal tribes in rural Australia and their problems with the students Sidney University?
It would be nice to stop confusing geography with social structures.[/QUOTE]I've lived here plenty long enough to agree with West'y. The smiles are smiles of anticipation at how much they are going to get from you not friendship. No matter how long you're here or how much you give, you will only be welcome until the dough runs out. Family is everything, family is THEM, you on the other hand are & will always be 'the Amerikano'.
AV
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Pity the Fools
[QUOTE=Sammon]
Once again in any relationship it depends on the love and trust. If she is happy with you, she will not wander.
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I feel sorry for guys trying to find wives/LTGF in the P.I. these days.
When I was wife hunting in the mid-1980 it was another time and another world. Even on long deployments, I never worried about my Pinay wife left at home alone for months at a time. Maybe living in the states had something to do with it. She is cute and still gets the look over even today. Got to love the way Pinays keep their youthful looks and body.
Slim
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Cherry Blossoms, Take 1
First foray into Cherry Blossoms.
P.S.
Thanks to other members who smacked some sense into me.
Deluged, flooded, inundated with responses from Phils. Too many to count or keep up with. Started getting selective about my criteria for even accepting "Smiles" unless they were of the WOW! Category. Gave my Yahoo Messenger to several women. Chatted with half a dozen. Only one brought up the subject of money (at any time) but in general, the convo was limited to "Hello, how are u? " and "please turn on yr cam. " Fair enough. Two days later, began chatting with the woman who wrote the best response. By the way, if their profile didn't indicate a college diploma or did indicate single mother, I didn't even reply. I like the smart ones, the savvy ones, even the tricky ones. I like to play games, too.
From her pics, she wasn't / isn't a 8-9-10 by any stretch. A solid 7 in body and face. But she was smart — wickedly smart — and our first chat lasted over three hours. All of it was above-average convo — her writing ability was better than most people I know in the States.
So there's a connection. We start chatting on YM every day. If I don't show up for chatting at the exact time I said I would — I. E. Five mins. Late, she gets pissed. Then she lets on that she's possessive. Then she starts getting comfy with me and spills the beans. Then it turns out she was a virgin until she was 27. Sure you are, honey. And then her tattoos give people the wrong impression. You think? Then I say "I'm coming to Phils next week" and she says the ex-bf called and said he wants her back. It goes on. [sigh] A week later, she confides that she really "likes" me. Feels guilty. (Catholic). Bcuz she may have feelings for the ex and. Whatever, honey. Now I'm glad I didn't waste a day's ride outside of Manila to meet you.
I'm going to change my CB profile intro / text to read:
I'm coming to Phils next week and I just want to fuck as many of you as I can.
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till the dough runs out
[QUOTE=Amavida]I've lived here plenty long enough to agree with West'y. The smiles are smiles of anticipation at how much they are going to get from you not friendship. No matter how long you're here or how much you give, you will only be welcome until the dough runs out. Family is everything, family is THEM, you on the other hand are & will always be 'the Amerikano'.
AV[/QUOTE]Yes. A pinay marries a local boy, the new lad might (or might not) well be accepted into the family as a son/brother. Literally a son in law. A white guy (from any country outside filipines) will never be such. He will be that guy that married my daughter/niece/sister. Whether he is providing money or not (probably he is), he is nothing more to them than that. Most men get this shortly after marrying her. Some hold the belief (as my mindanao friend did) they are fully accepted much longer (till the dough runs out). Naive, aren't we?
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Chat ?
It's not unreasonable to warn people about the dangers of SOME Filipinas.
Nevertheless, this is the chat thread. Whinging about Filipinas may make you feel good, or release some of your anger, but some of you have not remotely connected your complaints to the chat thread.
I politely suggest that you tell the whole ugly story (if it has anything to do with chat friends) or move your ideas to Filipina thread or even ask the ISG master for your own "dangers" thread.
X
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Yes. A pinay marries a local boy, the new lad might (or might not) well be accepted into the family as a son/brother. Literally a son in law. A white guy (from any country outside filipines) will never be such. He will be that guy that married my daughter/niece/sister. Whether he is providing money or not (probably he is), he is nothing more to them than that. Most men get this shortly after marrying her. Some hold the belief (as my mindanao friend did) they are fully accepted much longer (till the dough runs out). Naive, aren't we?[/QUOTE]
I understand what you are saying. But in many cases, how is this different from the American woman who leaves her husband when he gets fired from his job and cannot find another?
I don't know if it does any good, but I make it clear to my prospective filipina ladies that I have no intention of giving money to their family. They get an allowance and they have to use that for whatever.
Still, it is a real problem trying to figure out if the Filipina is interested in you because she likes you or she likes what you can do for her? Sadly, the latter is the case with most of them, especially those I have met on DIA.
At the risk of being repetitive, the Filipinas with jobs and decent income ( by their paltry standards) tend to be more like American women,-independent and wanting equal rights in the relationship. After all if you want an obedient servant, you have to expect to pay something for it?
Alas, TRUE LOVE is hard to find. In several years of chatting I have not found it. Maybe I am just unloveable.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Yes. A pinay marries a local boy, the new lad might (or might not) well be accepted into the family as a son/brother. Literally a son in law. A white guy (from any country outside filipines) will never be such. He will be that guy that married my daughter/niece/sister. Whether he is providing money or not (probably he is), he is nothing more to them than that. Most men get this shortly after marrying her. Some hold the belief (as my mindanao friend did) they are fully accepted much longer (till the dough runs out). Naive, aren't we?[/QUOTE]Be careful of generalisations.I've Been married 20 plus years and the family has only ever once asked me for a loan in an emergency which they promptly repaid. I couldnt ask to be more well accepted.
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[QUOTE=Shark San]I like the smart ones, the savvy ones, even the tricky ones. I like to play games, too.[/QUOTE]
Wow that story sucks! If you are focused on a smart girl, and not necessarily to marry, you might try good old Facebook or especially Friendster. All the girls have either a FB or FR page, and you could meet a girl who is not necessarily out fishing for a husband. You may need a clever line when you friend them though. I am sure you can think of something.
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]I feel sorry for guys trying to find wives/LTGF in the P.I. these days. When I was wife hunting in the mid-1980 it was another time and another world. Even on long deployments, I never worried about my Pinay wife left at home alone for months at a time. Maybe living in the states had something to do with it.[/QUOTE]Of course for you and many others there was nothing to worry about. When I was stateside in the Nav around that time I kept many a Pinay comfortable and in the ready position while their men were out on deployment. Hell, I even had one in San Diego whose husband was a Marine DI and in town during our trysts. I was definitely young and dumb back then to be at some guys house drinking his beer and playing his Nintendo while he was in town. Then there was another Pinay doorknob Wendy who everyone took a turn with. I was at her apartment with her when her husband came home from work, saw us down on the couch and just went straight upstairs. The stories are endless from those days.
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When I was 12 I had a Hmong refugee family of five move into my home in the US. What an interesting expierience as a kid. They were a kind and loving and grateful family. Great cooks too.common everyday things in our life were all new expieriences for them. I remember walking by the bathroom the 2nd day they were there and the 2 ladies were washing their clothes in the toilet. The National Geographic issue that came one month had Laos and the Hmong people on the front page and a big article about them. Turned out the people at my home recognized the Hmong people in the photos. Very interesting time.
[QUOTE=Thaifun]Hmongs are/were a hilltribe in mostly Laos. Hired by the CIA to fight the Vietnamese and the Laotian guerilla movement during the war. Then abandoned by the US in a second and persecuted by the new Laotian regime who had to fry some fish with them. Many escaped to Thailand and were recently delivered by the "Democrat" government, yes, to the Laotians. Some even carried on stretchers as they were to frail to cross the border on their own feet.
Some made it to the US.
To equate such a tribal community with the filipinas in general is more than a stretch. Why not equate aboriginal tribes in rural Australia and their problems with the students Sidney University?
It would be nice to stop confusing geography with social structures.[/QUOTE]
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Favoured LB names
Has anyone else noticed that LB's tend to choose predictable nicknames? Aubrey, Audrey, Shane, being three that come to mind.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Has anyone else noticed that LB's tend to choose predictable nicknames? Aubrey, Audrey, Shane, being three that come to mind.[/QUOTE]
And that the picture is too glamorous to the extent at times you can sort of guess it is a LB before you even think about chatting. Thats why I always insist on C2C
PS Thanks GL for bringing this back to the subject matter
XMan I agree
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CB - I'm only there to f*ck
[QUOTE=Shark San]First foray into Cherry Blossoms.
P.S.
Thanks to other members who smacked some sense into me.
I'm going to change my CB profile intro / text to read:
I'm coming to Phils next week and I just want to fuck as many of you as I can.[/QUOTE]This was covered a few months ago, maybe May. Several of us now have a similar CB profile (a bit less harsh). Mine says, "Not looking for marriage or a gf. Just fun times while I'm in town. Contact me if you are like-minded." Amazingly, they are still crawling out of the woodwork. About half have not bothered to read my profile (its the first thing I ask: did you read my profile?). The other half have, and are looking for fun. Lovedempinay.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]I understand what you are saying. But in many cases, how is this different from the American woman who leaves her husband when he gets fired from his job and cannot find another?
I don't know if it does any good, but I make it clear to my prospective filipina ladies that I have no intention of giving money to their family. They get an allowance and they have to use that for whatever.
Still, it is a real problem trying to figure out if the Filipina is interested in you because she likes you or she likes what you can do for her? Sadly, the latter is the case with most of them, especially those I have met on DIA.
At the risk of being repetitive, the Filipinas with jobs and decent income ( by their paltry standards) tend to be more like American women,-independent and wanting equal rights in the relationship. After all if you want an obedient servant, you have to expect to pay something for it?
Alas, TRUE LOVE is hard to find. In several years of chatting I have not found it. Maybe I am just unloveable.[/QUOTE]Dont be hard on yourself, i just think its rare to find fiipinas nowadays who will not ask for some help financially. But I think theres still some who are real and who are really looking for true love....in fact, i'm working on one hoping that shes real to me, so far i havent seen any signal that she's not.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Has anyone else noticed that LB's tend to choose predictable nicknames? Aubrey, Audrey, Shane, being three that come to mind.[/QUOTE]Add Irish to that list. Theres a whole army of Irish.
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Definitely different now!
[QUOTE=Nvslim]I feel sorry for guys trying to find wives/LTGF in the P.I. these days.
When I was wife hunting in the mid-1980 it was another time and another world. Even on long deployments, I never worried about my Pinay wife left at home alone for months at a time. Maybe living in the states had something to do with it. She is cute and still gets the look over even today. Got to love the way Pinays keep their youthful looks and body.
Slim[/QUOTE]
Funny I often wondered the same things about how the internet has really changed the ladies over time. From my experiences with Filipinas in the 80's to the younger breed now, the changes are glaring.
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they aren't like russians
[QUOTE=Pommie1957]I have found Filipinas to age horribly and take on a troll like appearance past 45.[/QUOTE]Past 40. Maybe past 35 most pinay have lost it in the looks department.
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a DIA gem..........
Just came across this in DIA...............you've got to laugh..! WTF!
(identity concealed to protect the guilty.....yunilyn_2001)
IM SIMPLE BUT IM CARIING LOVING..
HI IM ******* IM WORKING AS I AM WORKIN IN BARS AS BARGIRL IN ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES. ESCORT SERVICE FOR SHORT TYM BOOMBOOM SOMETIMES I DON'T HAVE BY MY SELF ALWASY WORKING WORKING ALWAYS SIVCK AND PUSSY PAIN.BUT I REALIZE I NEED TO TAKE REST BY MY SELF.
I WANT MAN FRIEND WHO SI BE NICE WITH ME IN OF COURSE FAITFULL WITH ME LOVING CARIING ALSO HELP ME PAY. I NEED MONEY FOR LIVING. MY HUSBAND IS UNEMPLOYED. AND MY DAUGHTER NEEDS MONEY TOO. I HAVE SOM SICK BECAUSE CUSTOMER DONT USE CONDOM. NO GOOD. ALWAYS HAPPENS. MEN ARE NO GOOD. MY HOBBIES IS I LOVE COOKING.. AHMM REDAING THE BOOKS AHM IWANT TO TRAVILS BUT I JUST ONLY A DREAM COMETRUE. I GREW UP MY OWN PROVINCE DUMAGUETY CITY PANDANON MABINAY NIGROS ORIENTAL..
IF URE NICE GUY U COME I MAKE U HAPPY ONLY FOR SMALL MONEY: THIS IS MYADDRESS:
M**** M*****
NO.** *********
ST.***********
BALIBAGO PAMPANGA
ANGELES..PHILIPINE
BUT I WANT USE CONDOM DONT WANT MAKE U SICK !!
I want to meet a Male
with age from 30 to 80
and I want to meet for
MY LAST BOYFRIEND FINISHED BECAUSE I AM SICK. NOW HE IS SICK TOO. BUT I THINK HE GIVE IT TO ME. HE WAS FUCKING EVERYWHERE IN PHILIPPINES AND THAI. I HATE MY JOB.MANY GUYS ARE DRUNK,NO NICE:JUST BOOMBOOM AND JUST PAY SMALL MONEY. ANGELES BARS ARE TOO CHEAP FOR THIS
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Doesn't make me laugh, but maybe that's just me. Probably just getting compassionate due to old age.
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Extraordinary
Very unusual profile.
My guess would be written by a jealous Pinay "friend" who she has fallen out with, but who knows??? As David says it's not really funny because sadly it is the reality for some girls here in the Phils.
[QUOTE=Bonker04]Just came across this in DIA...............you've got to laugh..! WTF!
(identity concealed to protect the guilty.....yunilyn_2001)
IM SIMPLE BUT IM CARIING LOVING..
HI IM ******* IM WORKING AS I AM WORKIN IN BARS AS BARGIRL IN ANGELES CITY PHILIPPINES. ESCORT SERVICE FOR SHORT TYM BOOMBOOM SOMETIMES I DON'T HAVE BY MY SELF ALWASY WORKING WORKING ALWAYS SIVCK AND PUSSY PAIN.BUT I REALIZE I NEED TO TAKE REST BY MY SELF.
I WANT MAN FRIEND WHO SI BE NICE WITH ME IN OF COURSE FAITFULL WITH ME LOVING CARIING ALSO HELP ME PAY. I NEED MONEY FOR LIVING. MY HUSBAND IS UNEMPLOYED. AND MY DAUGHTER NEEDS MONEY TOO. I HAVE SOM SICK BECAUSE CUSTOMER DONT USE CONDOM. NO GOOD. ALWAYS HAPPENS. MEN ARE NO GOOD. MY HOBBIES IS I LOVE COOKING.. AHMM REDAING THE BOOKS AHM IWANT TO TRAVILS BUT I JUST ONLY A DREAM COMETRUE. I GREW UP MY OWN PROVINCE DUMAGUETY CITY PANDANON MABINAY NIGROS ORIENTAL..
IF URE NICE GUY U COME I MAKE U HAPPY ONLY FOR SMALL MONEY: THIS IS MYADDRESS:
M**** M*****
NO.** *********
ST.***********
BALIBAGO PAMPANGA
ANGELES..PHILIPINE
BUT I WANT USE CONDOM DONT WANT MAKE U SICK !!
I want to meet a Male
with age from 30 to 80
and I want to meet for
MY LAST BOYFRIEND FINISHED BECAUSE I AM SICK. NOW HE IS SICK TOO. BUT I THINK HE GIVE IT TO ME. HE WAS FUCKING EVERYWHERE IN PHILIPPINES AND THAI. I HATE MY JOB.MANY GUYS ARE DRUNK,NO NICE:JUST BOOMBOOM AND JUST PAY SMALL MONEY. ANGELES BARS ARE TOO CHEAP FOR THIS[/QUOTE]
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Mea Culpa..!
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Very unusual profile.
My guess would be written by a jealous Pinay "friend" who she has fallen out with, but who knows??? As David says it's not really funny because sadly it is the reality for some girls here in the Phils.[/QUOTE]
I am sure you're right, I only thought the text was funny, clearly not her situation, which, if true, is very sad indeed! Almost certainly not posted by the girl herself, which is why I deleted her name/address.
No offence intended!
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[QUOTE=David_33]Doesn't make me laugh, but maybe that's just me. Probably just getting compassionate due to old age.[/QUOTE]
Or by the latest westerner who has just found out that the undying love she promised him while in AC lasted as long as he was there....seen a few of these before and I generally tend to think these are written by obessive westerners who spent/sent loads of cash to girls they barely knew (maybe seen a few times) and then subsequently find out that a bar girl in AC will not change her spots...sad, pathetic but so many times over very ture
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Wrong, Wrong, Wrong
[QUOTE=Westcoast1]
Past 40. Maybe past 35 most pinay have lost it in the looks department.
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My wife is in the 40+ category and I can't keep my hands off her. Her body is still defying gravity. She has only gained 5 lbs over 20+ years. She is still slim and cute and could pass for 30 on a good day.
I have seen quite a few MILFs in the PI that would give the bar girls a run for their money.
Slim
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Very unusual profile.
My guess would be written by a jealous Pinay "friend" who she has fallen out with, but who knows??? As David says it's not really funny because sadly it is the reality for some girls here in the Phils.[/QUOTE]
I'm not so sure; I think it is written by a naive silly little girl who doesn't realise that 100s of guys will read it and half will probably light up and respond.
It has all the grammatical/spelling errors of a poorly schooled person too.
So many girls do not realise just how big the www is nor do they have much of a clue about protecting their identity. I have lost count of the number of times I have received a message from a DIA girl that she has sent simultaneously to 5 or 6 other guys whose names appear in the "To" section. It is naivete of the highest order.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]So many girls do not realise just how big the www is nor do they have much of a clue about protecting their identity.[/QUOTE]
It is one more strong argument you NOT to accept them as your Facebook friends.
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[QUOTE=White Whale]It is one more strong argument you NOT to accept them as your Facebook friends.[/QUOTE]
Simpler way is dont have facebook, friendster, myspace et al.....the number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends...who most they have never met.....
If you are a serial monger you should never have a facebook, friendster ect account and if you do, make sure the email address is so differnt, your name is so different so they never find you because if they do..:( Of course that is until someone invents a way to search for photos exactly..:) Then we are all in the shit :D
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WR, this already is out there. The picture database indexing is growing by the minute, but I did not yet get a match on any pictures I searched. I do not have address on this computer but I guess everyone knows of Google by now.
Closing and reopening accounts I find to be the best way to go with social networks. I stick to two or three that are more dating oriented. Facebook is not one of them in my opinion.
B
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Simpler way is dont have facebook, friendster, myspace et al.....the number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends...who most they have never met.....
If you are a serial monger you should never have a facebook, friendster ect account and if you do, make sure the email address is so differnt, your name is so different so they never find you because if they do..:( Of course that is until someone invents a way to search for photos exactly..:) Then we are all in the shit :D[/QUOTE]
Tineye (Firefox etc plugin) does good job for photos. Even with watermarks or face covers. In one hooker setup web page it recognized pictures where hair color was photoshopped from blond to black. I do not know where its' database comes from. Most of the russian photo web sites are well covered ie. most fake pictures in the hooker web site mentioned can be revealed as fakes.
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]My wife is in the 40+ category and I can't keep my hands off her. Her body is still defying gravity. She has only gained 5 lbs over 20+ years. She is still slim and cute and could pass for 30 on a good day.
I have seen quite a few MILFs in the PI that would give the bar girls a run for their money.
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Lucky slim! Mines twice the woman that she was when I first met her - lol;).
Agree with your point about MILFs. And they are so grateful for the attention too:). Love the young dollies but an occasional MILF clears the tubes.
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]My wife is in the 40+ category and I can't keep my hands off her. Her body is still defying gravity. She has only gained 5 lbs over 20+ years. She is still slim and cute and could pass for 30 on a good day.
I have seen quite a few MILFs in the PI that would give the bar girls a run for their money.
Slim[/QUOTE]I wouldn't argue that. But as a whole, I find them unattractive in later (or middle) years. Other nationalities of this age-range, age more gracefully.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Simpler way is don't have facebook, friendster, myspace et al. The number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends. Who most they have never met.
If you are a serial monger you should never have a facebook, friendster ect account and if you do, make sure the email address is so differnt, your name is so different so they never find you because if they do. Of course that is until someone invents a way to search for photos exactly. Then we are all in the shit[/QUOTE]I'm 100% with you. Notwithstanding the fact that wife, kids etc all have Facebook and "Dad" would have a had time explaining why all his friends happened to under 30, totally female and resident in Phils, Thailand and Indonesia.
And yes even with multiple email addresses and different names, theres still a chance of being found, so no Facebook for me.
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Was her years of education worthwhile....
The beutyful
I'm chatting to another country and then
I'm try register the dateinasaia
And then I'm friendly and I'm honnest me
I'm not lie to the people
Have no working me but I'm study me
And after the study I'm going me and USA country
But I'm searching me boyfirends and I'm like a boy the honnstly and lovable ilove the dateinasia
Netherland
Hehhehheheehe thnks to all tfc and ofw worker the other country I like you.
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[QUOTE=White Whale]Tineye (Firefox etc plugin) does good job for photos. Even with watermarks or face covers. In one hooker setup web page it recognized pictures where hair color was photoshopped from blond to black. I do not know where its' database comes from. Most of the russian photo web sites are well covered ie. most fake pictures in the hooker web site mentioned can be revealed as fakes.[/QUOTE]
WW and Barba
Just goes to show what a techno ignorant I am :D Best get all my dick pics off the web site LOL
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I'm 100% with you. Notwithstanding the fact that wife, kids etc all have Facebook and "Dad" would have a had time explaining why all his friends happened to under 30, totally female and resident in Phils, Thailand and Indonesia.
And yes even with multiple email addresses and different names, theres still a chance of being found, so no Facebook for me.[/QUOTE]
I understand the reasons for this certainly. But I set up my FB so that no one can access the page, write on the wall or make a comment unless I've accepted them as friends.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I understand the reasons for this certainly. But I set up my FB so that no one can access the page, write on the wall or make a comment unless I've accepted them as friends.[/QUOTE]
I am the same as you GE.
And.... I never accept any casual female acquaintance as an FB friend either.
Strictly family and close (legitimate lol) friends too, and usually male.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
"Dad" would have a had time explaining why all his friends happened to under 30, totally female and resident in Phils, Thailand and Indonesia.
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FF
I would love to be the fly on the wall while you explain that...Piper1 has regularly used my name in vain as an excuse to his Miss Wildcat for his numerous indiscretions....recently he and I exchanged emails about the latest one in case she called me to ask why I had 'done' such a naughty thing ...my answer is always "well its me, and I can":D
You could always try and claim you are doing charitable acts in Asia involving nursing, education, and leather but I somehow doubt that would swng...and blaming me for it may bring in another added complication LOL
See you soon
PS...have replied to your PM via the email. Let me know your thoughts
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And we wonder why us guys have a bad rep
Being bored at work was chatting to a few ladies. Sowing seeds for future trips etc and finding out how bad we guys are LOL.
Girl 1. Cute girl from Tacloban. Had a bf living in Bangkok. She went to visit him and was very upset that one night he went out, bought home a Thai girl and expected them to enjoy each other for his benefit.
So now theres one girl in Tacloban who hasnt had sex since May 30th.
Girl 2. Jakarta girl who I know in both meanings of the word.
She was living with an 50 year old American gent in Jakarta and about to go through a ceremony for a 3 week marriage.
This is basically an arrangement where girl and guy agree to stay together, he pays a fee, parents approval may or may not be involved, and marriage is considered over after 3 weeks. Good plan I think.
Anyways, she was telling me he went to "work " every day for past 2 months and came home after "work".
Only thing is, he didn't actually have a job. Girls friends saw him in malls, movie houses and bars waiting to go " home ".
When she found out, she called off the 3 week marriage and will now be in Singapore next week.
Man are so bad. LOL.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
Girl 2. Jakarta girl who I know in both meanings of the word.
She was living with an 50 year old American gent in Jakarta and about to go through a ceremony for a 3 week marriage.
This is basically an arrangement where girl and guy agree to stay together, he pays a fee, parents approval may or may not be involved, and marriage is considered over after 3 weeks. Good plan I think.
Anyways, she was telling me he went to "work " every day for past 2 months and came home after "work".
Only thing is, he didn't actually have a job. Girls friends saw him in malls, movie houses and bars waiting to go " home ".
When she found out, she called off the 3 week marriage and will now be in Singapore next week.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't make sense. The girl was already living with the guy, apparently for at least a couple of months. Why would they want to do a "3 week marriage" if they were already living together? I've never heard of such a thing.
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy]That doesn't make sense. The girl was already living with the guy, apparently for at least a couple of months. Why would they want to do a "3 week marriage" if they were already living together? I've never heard of such a thing.[/QUOTE]Understand Indonesia and you will understand the concept of this.
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[quote=radical guy]that doesn't make sense. the girl was already living with the guy, apparently for at least a couple of months. why would they want to do a "3 week marriage" if they were already living together? i've never heard of such a thing.[/quote]
temporary marriages are nothing unusual at least in shia islam. the concept of marriage in islam is different from christianity and is more a legal arrangement than the spiritual new-age stuff christian clerics perform, especially catholic ones - in the spare time when not fucking **** boys.
the dowry is to stay with the bride for her economic security. the arrangement for the girl was perfectly fair to her as she protected her reputation, financial interest, and executed her right to call of the marriage when the husband was not behaving as he should (in her view). she naturally had to right to keep the dowry.
i m not muslim by the way. it makes sense, however, to comprehend different understandings of marriage.
so, good for the guy that he took into account that the girl had a life in her own community. good for the girl that she protected her interests.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Simpler way is dont have facebook, friendster, myspace et al.....the number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends...who most they have never met.....
If you are a serial monger you should never have a facebook, friendster ect account and if you do, make sure the email address is so differnt, your name is so different so they never find you because if they do..:( Of course that is until someone invents a way to search for photos exactly..:) Then we are all in the shit :D[/QUOTE]
Oh man you are so right!
Its even worse now, the search engines like google are tying up with FB FS etc to allow indexing of ALL their friggin content! You dont even have to have a FB acccount, all you need is a girl of the moment to causally snap you with their cell phone & next thing you know your mug is on the internet in her album/wall etc. next thing you know some other girl is angrily txt'ng/emailing you about who is that other girl..
If I was a cheater in a relationship I would be bloody careful!!
AV
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Don't mean to be contradictory, but your point is one of the reasons I like the SNW sites. Why putter around DIA when Ms. B in Cebu has one hundred friends, several of whom look great. And most profiles have multiple photos rather than the one provided by DIA.
I also have enjoyed going back into the archives, digging out some of those old yahoo emails, plugging it into the SNW search and seeing what comes up. Sometimes you find a stunner and wonder why you never met her. You might find an old flame and learn something new about her. Others are still stunners, but apparently married and living in the west. I even found one I picked up on New Year's eve at Jurassic Park, now living in the west, having YouTube videos on how to put on cosmetics. And to think her fine figure has adorned the ISG threads at one time. And of course some have become twice the women they once were (quoting the stunning cunted one).
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Simpler way is dont have facebook, friendster, myspace et al.....the number of girls I have shagged who would spend their time between rounds on these social web sites is amazing. Some have thousands of friends...who most they have never met.....
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Rules for being incognito
[QUOTE=Amavida]Oh man you are so right!
Its even worse now, the search engines like google are tying up with FB FS etc to allow indexing of ALL their friggin content! You dont even have to have a FB acccount, all you need is a girl of the moment to causally snap you with their cell phone & next thing you know your mug is on the internet in her album/wall etc. next thing you know some other girl is angrily txt'ng/emailing you about who is that other girl.
If I was a cheater in a relationship I would be bloody careful!!
AV[/QUOTE]1. Never give a girl your real name.
2. Never give her your real email
3. Never give her your work/personal phone number. Always keep a second phone and sim for play purposes.
4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.
5. Never let her see your business card or other forms of obvious ID such as mailing address, envelope etc.
6. AND NEVER EVER let her take a photo of you.
Follow these simple rules and a monger can live a reasonably discreet life.
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Shes very specific in what she wants..
Ms Carylincaliso of Cebu writes that she wants to meet
I want to meet a Male
With age from 70 to 69
And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
Hi then, caring, loving, king, goodhearted, concern, sinser, honest of relationship.
So if you are a sweet guy just turned 69, grab her quick and before you hit 70. Oh and she's only 18. LOL
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LBs offering girls
I've just had a very familiar situation on DIA. you chat with a "girl", she seems unusually willing to please, then it emerges that she is a LB. You say sorry i'm just looking for a real girl bye.
10 Minutes later she is texting offering a real girl who is a friend of hers.
I've pursued such offers a couple of times before and not had especially good experiences. The LB typically wants to come along to collect some sort of commission. If possible they try to come to your room, if you wont allow it they will hang around outside and start texting the girl after 30 mins.
Has anyone else had more positive experiences in this situation or does this pretty much always happen when LBs are involved?
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I've just had a very familiar situation on DIA. you chat with a "girl", she seems unusually willing to please, then it emerges that she is a LB. You say sorry i'm just looking for a real girl bye.
10 Minutes later she is texting offering a real girl who is a friend of hers.
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Why are you so quick to give out your cell phone number GL?
You said she is texting you???
I hold my cp number in reserve until I have established all the bona fides of any contact.
I have learned that once any girl gets a cp number she will bombard you with texts and crazy messages (like "did u eat" and "I miss you" etc etc)
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Why are you so quick to give out your cell phone number GL?
You said she is texting you???
I hold my cp number in reserve until I have established all the bona fides of any contact.
I have learned that once any girl gets a cp number she will bombard you with texts and crazy messages (like "did u eat" and "I miss you" etc etc)[/QUOTE]
Ive sometimes had problems with being bombarded with pointless texts but generally its not been too much of a problem, but Im probably more text tolerant than many guys.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I have learned that once any girl gets a cp number she will bombard you with texts and crazy messages (like "did u eat" and "I miss you" etc etc)[/QUOTE]I've only got 2 of these going now, out of half a dozen actively texting me, but man oh man are they mind-numbing.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I've just had a very familiar situation on DIA. you chat with a "girl", she seems unusually willing to please, then it emerges that she is a LB. You say sorry i'm just looking for a real girl bye.
10 Minutes later she is texting offering a real girl who is a friend of hers.
I've pursued such offers a couple of times before and not had especially good experiences. The LB typically wants to come along to collect some sort of commission. If possible they try to come to your room, if you wont allow it they will hang around outside and start texting the girl after 30 mins.
Has anyone else had more positive experiences in this situation or does this pretty much always happen when LBs are involved?[/QUOTE]
I had the same situation. I believe I chatted with a LB on DIA and He/She never showed face on cam. Anyway within a few days I was going to be in Manila. On arriving in manila I called and the girl answered. She came to my hotel and stayed with me for 4 days and was very good in bed. Cute , young girl too. During conversation she asked me if I am interested in Lady boys. I flatly said no and asked why. she said she has a friend who is a Ladyboy and who wants to be with me. I said no way and I asked her if I was chatting with her LB friend or her? She said no, it was her . I put 2 and 2 together and firmly believed I was chatting with her LB friend.
Anyway she is a very nice girl and never demanded money. But I did give her some money and still keep in touch with her. She is very good.
So it does not matter if a LB introduces you to a girl it might work out OK.
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Chatting on facebook
I find having a secondary facebook acc very useful to get the real name and pics of a girl. I have now got loads of contacts on FB. Lots of girls like cusing FB chat but I've not found an efficient way of doing this as i like I am sure many people find FBs ownchat interface very poor.
I've downloaded chitchat for facebook which gives a standalone FB chat interface and found it OK but my big problem is that unlike YM I cant rename the girls so i can remember who they are and where they are. Does anyone know of a better FB chat program which would solve this problem?
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Freebie Fan--
4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.
Are you suggesting to register under a false name?
Why is this important?
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]Freebie Fan--
4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.
Are you suggesting to register under a false name?
Why is this important?[/QUOTE]I'm suggesting to pay with cash.
The point of my post was ways to ensure a girl doesn't get your real name, or at least as protection for those of us who are married.
Paying for a hotel with a credit card leaves a trail, including credit card statements which can be seen, and its kinda hard to explain why you were in a hotel when you should have been at home or wherever.
Also, hotel staff have been known to give out names of guests to girls.
If you paid with cash and registered under a name of choice then you are unlocatable.
Just a good practice for those of us trying to stay incognito.
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A small DIA research report
i decided to try out my theory that most girls on dia don't understand what they put in their profiles nor do they read our profiles carefully.
i opened a new account, and put up a very short, concise profile. i marked myself as "married or attached", and described myself as a "fit, healthy foreigner living in manila for an extended period". i added that i was looking for "open-minded women for discreet daytime meeting for fun only".
within 30 minutes of posting my profile, i had 6 messages. 4 of the 6 had profiles along the lines of "seeking honest man to be my future husband.... no scammers please.....serious man only.......if you just want fun then get lost .....".
i replied to each of these "i don't think you read my profile because it does not match the guy you want".
3 of the 4 who replied sent back "ohhh, sorry" messages along with various gibberish about not meaning what they said etc. the 4th one said (quote) ok i never wrote mt profile anyway my friend did it for me i like what you said and can we meet (unquote)
the remaining 2 of the 6 early replies were better. they both said they liked that i was so upfront and honest and they hoped that we could meet soon in the afternoon for some fun. i will check them out more closely and chat on cam too of course to be sure about lots of things (we all know what that is).
so, my modest little experiment confirmed for me that
(a) it doesn't hurt to be upfront and honest in your profile as long as you are not too "crude"
(b) many girls just see the word "foreigner" and hit reply and say hi without reading anything else (rep001tergun approach)
(c) a lot of girls don't write their profiles. they either copy them or get a friend to write it for them and have no idea what it says.
this is not a surprise to many of you experienced dia or dating site afficionados, but it might help the newbies starting out. i have had a lot of success on dia over the past few years and i think having an "honest" profile is the way to go
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[quote=red kilt]i decided to try out my theory that most girls on dia don't understand what they put in their profiles nor do they read our profiles carefully.
i opened a new account, and put up a very short, concise profile. i marked myself as "married or attached", and described myself as a "fit, healthy foreigner living in manila for an extended period". i added that i was looking for "open-minded women for discreet daytime meeting for fun only".
so, my modest little experiment confirmed for me that
(a) it doesn't hurt to be upfront and honest in your profile as long as you are not too "crude"
(b) many girls just see the word "foreigner" and hit reply and say hi without reading anything else (rep001tergun approach)
(c) a lot of girls don't write their profiles. they either copy them or get a friend to write it for them and have no idea what it says.
this is not a surprise to many of you experienced dia or dating site afficionados, but it might help the newbies starting out. i have had a lot of success on dia over the past few years and i think having an "honest" profile is the way to go[/quote]hey rk.
the alternative approach then using the same logic is then to write a profile saying " seeking love forever and hope to find my true love soulmate here on dia"
when they reply, as they will, say you are looking for extra marital sex and that you didn't really write your own profile. it will confuse the heck out of some of them, but may result in some scoring also.
ps. i'm saying this with tongue firmly esconced in cheek.,
pps. for all mongers who like a good read (not as in bedtime book), theres a gent called kumbu who is now in the middle of a 9 day bkk trip. he writes in a very amusing style on the bkk board (not that everyone appreciates it) but well worth a look if you want to see into the mindset and modus operandi of a fellow monger.
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RedKilt,
I have the same experience. I used to have a profile with some sort of gibberish about friends and fun, but replaced it with one that is more strait to the point. I do not have a photo either so I rarely get anyone of interest (<22 years) contacting me, but do however still have a lot of young and pretty girls ready to meet after some warming up on Yahoo. Most of them did not read/understand the profile, and this is actually favourable since you can, after chatting them up and telling them about you previous gf and her greed for money (read "there is about X peso to collect here monthly but my ex wanted 2X"), can direct them to your profile with a surprised "oooohhhh did you not read my profile, hun?".
99% are ready to meet and have fun, just as long as you do not date other girls (that day).
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mexicana from cebu in Philippines
i want a serious guy.....
IM PREGNANT RIGHT NOW
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]i want a serious guy.....
IM PREGNANT RIGHT NOW[/QUOTE]You are not funny! It should be Spanish Girl in Cebu!
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[QUOTE=Econo Tech]You are not funny! It should be Spanish Girl in Cebu![/QUOTE]Theres some interesting spellings being used by some profiles.
Case in point being Nelrachselim from Naga.
She is, in her own words " and what a verry pilipina beautyand also wailing to meraid a good man person. "
I'm sure Bob Marley and she would get on well!
Altho in her favour she is 20 and a fine looking girl!
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And one more
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]1. Never give a girl your real name.
2. Never give her your real email
3. Never give her your work/personal phone number. Always keep a second phone and sim for play purposes.
4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.
5. Never let her see your business card or other forms of obvious ID such as mailing address, envelope etc.
6. AND NEVER EVER let her take a photo of you.
Follow these simple rules and a monger can live a reasonably discreet life.[/QUOTE]And one more. But not a "technical" one, but very effective: never give a girl the chance to see you more than once or twice so she will not get emotionally involved. That way she has reason to "find out about you". Be very clear of the purpose of meeting with her. Honest but straight forward and cut the ties after 1 max 2 times.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Theres some interesting spellings being used by some profiles.
Case in point being Nelrachselim from Naga.
She is, in her own words " and what a verry pilipina beautyand also wailing to meraid a good man person. "
I'm sure Bob Marley and she would get on well!
Altho in her favour she is 20 and a fine looking girl![/QUOTE]And another interesting profile from "SexyCathy" maybeb from Davao or Las Pinas
I enjoy the outdoors and love to (hunt, bike, swim, fish, dance, play music, exercise, hike, travel, stroll along the beach, cook, garden, body build, work on cars, do martial arts, play sports, build things, I work to have a good life am not here for games at all am any international business woman
She likes to body build and is 79 pounds?
"A Filipina that likes to hunt, or knows how to ride a bike, or spends time in the garden? " Theres not a lot of those..
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]And another interesting profile from "SexyCathy" maybeb from Davao or Las Pinas
I enjoy the outdoors and love to (hunt, bike, swim, fish, dance, play music, exercise, hike, travel, stroll along the beach, cook, garden, body build, work on cars, do martial arts, play sports, build things, I work to have a good life am not here for games at all am any international business woman
She likes to body build and is 79 pounds?
"A Filipina that likes to hunt, or knows how to ride a bike, or spends time in the garden? " Theres not a lot of those..[/QUOTE]
Hahaha you've been stealing my notes FF. I have been accumulating a cross-section of profile absurdities like these.
You have to laugh though - poor innocent souls, except for the piranhas of course.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Hahaha you've been stealing my notes FF. I have been accumulating a cross-section of profile absurdities like these.
You have to laugh though - poor innocent souls, except for the piranhas of course.[/QUOTE]There sure are some absurd ones around. I asked the girl who likes to hunt what she has ever hunted. She admitted that she copied a profile from a girl in Europe.
Catch up with you next week. I'm in the middle of the normal girl scheduling hell. Which ones are "In", which are "maybes" and which arent worth seeing.
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DIA drawbacks
Are there any free dating sites covering Phil. and Thailand that have higher class ladies than what you typically get from DIA. DIA has quantity but lacks quality, imnsho.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Are there any free dating sites covering Phil. and Thailand that have higher class ladies than what you typically get from DIA. DIA has quantity but lacks quality, imnsho.[/QUOTE]
IMHO most of the girls on DIA are also on the other web site some using different handles. Take time and patience but quality is there as I and others have found, but for every oine you contact maybe only 10% you will see and of that less than 50% maybe are what you desire. But patience and effort will reward you and I have found some lovely ones via DIA
But always C2C first then you can easily weed out the not so quality ones
Freebie Fan works the web site hard and he gets some nice ones
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DIA Quality
I concur with the Wicked One and Freebie Fan. It is work but I love the GFE and when you connect, it's worth the effort. You can always use "casa girls" / massage girls for back-up for those frustrating days & nights.
I'm in Davao now, with a perfect DIA "9", after a frustrating start. She's moving in tonight. Guess I may stay here awhile longer.
Cheapy
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]IMHO most of the girls on DIA are also on the other web site some using different handles. Take time and patience but quality is there as I and others have found, but for every oine you contact maybe only 10% you will see and of that less than 50% maybe are what you desire. But patience and effort will reward you and I have found some lovely ones via DIA
But always C2C first then you can easily weed out the not so quality ones
Freebie Fan works the web site hard and he gets some nice ones[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]IMHO most of the girls on DIA are also on the other web site some using different handles. [/QUOTE]
Would you say that other sites that charge a fee are worth the premium over DIA? Last time I used DIA for about a week before the trip. For my next trip I was thinking about using DIA, Tagged and one site that charges a fee. But I'm wondering if trying to manage three sources would be spreading myself too thin and if the cost (although fairly minimal) is not worthwhile. Thanks.
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IMHO it would be overkill. I can't handle all the messages I get from being on just one site. Anyway, after a few trips, I have found that you're better off just meeting girls here and there during your stay.
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Dating sites
[QUOTE=Toronto]Would you say that other sites that charge a fee are worth the premium over DIA? Last time I used DIA for about a week before the trip. For my next trip I was thinking about using DIA, Tagged and one site that charges a fee. But I'm wondering if trying to manage three sources would be spreading myself too thin and if the cost (although fairly minimal) is not worthwhile. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
DIA = Free for guys so 10 x as many guys than CB or FH. But because it is free the majority of these guys are just killing time or looking fro free cam shows / virtual GFs with no real intention of coming to the Phils. However because so many guys are members it also attracts most girls and scammers and LBs. so it is very much high quantity, uncertain quality. The policy of just one photo is also limiting, one really needs to see her on cam or her pics on Facebook/Tagged.
Some of the better quality girls, and especially those primarily looking for marriage or a LTR give up on DIA as they get bombarded with too many low quality messages. A top quality girl can get 200 messages a day initially reducing to say 50 a day once she has been on for a while. DIA works best in the big tourist areas where guys will typically go eg Manila and Cebu, in Angeles the majority of girls just wait to find a guy in person so its not as useful there. In the places with large populations and not so many tourists, eg the cities of Mindanao, there are loads of girls but many of them are "bait and switchers" promising alot but not delivering if you actually go there, or looking for guys to send them money fpr the fare to Cebu/Manila which of course they will probably just keep.
Tagged = A not very successful social website with good search and message functionality which in the Phils doubles as a free dating site. Less straightforward to use initially because of the poor site layout, But the girls have an unlimited number of pics they can upload. The majority of girls are members because they want somewhere to upload their pics and play games etc and only secondarily as a dating site.
They get loads of messages from guys in India/Middle east but not so many real western guys actually in or coming to the Phils. Tagged is especially useful in the provincial places where their are insufficient tourists to make DIA very useful for the girls. Many such girls will join Tagged for the photo store and social network functionality .
CB/FH = These pay sites have maybe 10% of the guys on DIA but on average the guys there are considerably more serious ie they will at least be really planning a trip otherwise why waste money joining the site. The male demographic on these sites tends to be primarily 40-70 makes primarily from north America Australasia and Europe either lookig for a wife or at least intending to come to the Phils. Multiple photos and better search functionality are a real advantages. The sites have far fewer girls but on average they will be more serious girls looking for a few real dates/prospects rather then being bombarded with many messages.
If you are coming for a short trip for fun I would stick with DIA and Tagged - they should generate more than enough contacts.
If you are looking for a wife or LTR or will spend a longish time in the Phils or are looking for "more serious" girls, then joining CD/FH may be worthwhile. Personally I like the functionality of CB better.
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The other thing to watch out for Toronto, is that some of the profiles are actually put up by ASSHOLE MEN pretending to be girls. They use bikini photos they have from girls they have met in the Philippines and then troll for guys who don't know any better. They then get these poor fools to send them money. Some of the girls are also being coached by some ASSHOLE MEN who help them to sucker the guys for money. These ASSHOLES then collect in reduced boom boom rates or get freebees. Even seeing the girls on webcam isn't a guarantee that she isn't fronting for one of these ASSHOLES. So be very careful. These pricks aren't Filipino, they are foreigner scammers. Could even be ISG members; you never know....caveat emptor.
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Well best we not meet this one
enialyoj on DIA....."does not like pervert person" :D
Well I suppose it depends on the definiton of pervert......:D
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]enialyoj on DIA....."does not like pervert person" :D
Well I suppose it depends on the definiton of pervert......:D[/QUOTE]
Wicked one,
My working definition of perverted is, " If your kinky you use a feather, a pervert uses the whole chicken"........but hey that's just me.....:-)
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Greg London and David_33, thanks for the replys. Much appreciated. I will stick to one or two and do more of chatting up waitresses, cashiers, etc when I am there since I enjoy doing that anyway. BTW, keep up the good work David_33. You were of great help when you helped me out way back in 2004 in Peru.
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[QUOTE=Fslag338]And one more. But not a "technical" one, but very effective: never give a girl the chance to see you more than once or twice so she will not get emotionally involved. That way she has reason to "find out about you". Be very clear of the purpose of meeting with her. Honest but straight forward and cut the ties after 1 max 2 times.[/QUOTE]
What emotional involvement? There is no emotional issues till you meet and hit it off few times. By then you can drop her and move on.
More correct attitude should be do not believe her when she says she is in love with you. These Phi girls say they love somebody before even meeting. It is not love. She just wants to make sure you are hooked on her.
Right now I have a virgin who wants to be with me and promised She loves me. Although we never met.
Some of these girls are so desparate , they think being with a foreigner as a GF is the cure all for them. Even their families get in the cam to look and show themselves. Sometimes their friends also. I guess the girl tells them everything to show them that she is wanted by a foreign man. Some girls start asking for money. Stop talking to them immediately.
If a girl stays with you and makes you happy, you can keep her as a gf and support her. Always make a deal how much you can send her for a month. Ofcourse there will be more demands but you ignore those.
I have supported few girls and kept them as GF. It is real fun to take them on vacations. Bargirls never make trustworthy companions even if you take them on vacation.
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[QUOTE=David_33]The other thing to watch out for Toronto, is that some of the profiles are actually put up by ASSHOLE MEN pretending to be girls. They use bikini photos they have from girls they have met in the Philippines and then troll for guys who don't know any better. They then get these poor fools to send them money. Some of the girls are also being coached by some ASSHOLE MEN who help them to sucker the guys for money. These ASSHOLES then collect in reduced boom boom rates or get freebees. Even seeing the girls on webcam isn't a guarantee that she isn't fronting for one of these ASSHOLES. So be very careful. These pricks aren't Filipino, they are foreigner scammers. Could even be ISG members; you never know....caveat emptor.[/QUOTE]
I agree this, it happen to me several times while during the time I spent at CB.
But wisely I found out latest the "girls" don´t wanna show themselves in c2c.
Be careful and watch out the pics with "model-character".
These profiles are most likely just FAKE.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]1. Never give a girl your real name.
4. Never pay for hotels with a credit card if sex is the purpose of stay.
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Assuming one wants to use a fake name at the hotel, don't most hotels require foreigners to produce a passport?
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I got booted off DIA awhile back. Probaby for telling a few too many ladyboys to fuck off. I tried to setup another account with a new email address. Durring the setup DIA also asked for a text code to be sent to cell phone so I used my friends cell # to get the code and entered it. Account was setup but needed to wait 48 hours for approval. For some reason it was not approved. Has anyone had this problem?
[QUOTE=GregLondon]DIA = Free for guys.[/QUOTE]
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Lb
Just a word of warning. We all know there are many LB on DIA etc. Most tell it either in their profile or in their first mail. But there are those losers who you have to meet to find out. Goddamn time wasters. Happened to me twice in a week grrrrrr Best advice I can give (and will do from now on) is to call any girl you want to meet b4 and try to listen for changed voice. Although even that is no guarantee. Yes cam can help too but i dont have time for all that chat stuff.
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hahahah, not only that! BUT!...
I think some of them are working in syndicate type groups. Either that or they share a common gossip channel, (similar to this site, but for filipinas sharing info on foreigners). What you tell one, others seem to know in short order.
Do not forget! The entire cr*phouse Ku*try of the Philippines is based on the BIG scam-that's the whole Country's modus operandi. It is VERY difficult to find a Filipina on DIA who does not spread BS in some fashion or degree. They seem incapable of being or looking at the world honestly.
[QUOTE=Rampana]I agree this, it happen to me several times while during the time I spent at CB.
But wisely I found out latest the "girls" don´t wanna show themselves in c2c.
Be careful and watch out the pics with "model-character".
These profiles are most likely just FAKE.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy]Assuming one wants to use a fake name at the hotel, don't most hotels require foreigners to produce a passport?[/QUOTE]Its not a legal requirement in Phils, just a common practice. China its a VERY legal practice, but in Phils tell them your passport is in embassy for visa stamping or some BS.
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Success with tagged
i'm currently visiting for 3 weeks. usually i hang out in manila for a couple if days, shopping at lac now mbc. this time decided to try freebies, hunted on tagged.com. this us a great site, like facebook. got 3 numbers out if 10 tries. and have met all 3. met them in moa and robinsons. 2 went on to clubbing then spent the night, neither asked for anything in return. the 3rd one wanted to go with me to my hotel, but being 18 and looking younger, did not have her id, so i passed, didn't want any **** problems.
i also met 1 of the girls i've chatted with on cams2chat.en she didn't mess around coming straight to my room and spending the night. she wanted only cab fare even though i tried to give more.
now i'm in angeles doing girls the old fashioned way. things there are pretty much normal with the exception of a couple clubs still shutdown.
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[QUOTE=Fslag338] Best advice I can give (and will do from now on) is to call any girl you want to meet b4 and try to listen for changed voice. Although even that is no guarantee. Yes cam can help too but i dont have time for all that chat stuff.[/QUOTE]My standard MO. Once bitten twice shy. All prospects get a call now :
1. To check that they sound female
2. To check that we would at least be able to have a conversation. Some of these girls cant string two words together so not much point in meeting and wasting my best lines on them, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I got booted off DIA awhile back. Probaby for telling a few too many ladyboys to fuck off. I tried to setup another account with a new email address. Durring the setup DIA also asked for a text code to be sent to cell phone so I used my friends cell # to get the code and entered it. Account was setup but needed to wait 48 hours for approval. For some reason it was not approved. Has anyone had this problem?[/QUOTE]They have your ISP number, so if you were booted off then your ISP is still banned. A new ID will not help.
That's my guess anyway. I often change my ID and never have any problems. Go to an internet cafe and set up a new account from there and then see if it can be used from your regular computer.
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Paying for contacts
Greg London already gave you a very good rundown of the pros and cons. I'll add one thing -- consider purchasing one month of CB just prior to your trip. It's fairly cheap, you get to test it for yourself, and you'll get more contacts than you could possibly meet.
[QUOTE=Toronto]Would you say that other sites that charge a fee are worth the premium over DIA? Last time I used DIA for about a week before the trip. For my next trip I was thinking about using DIA, Tagged and one site that charges a fee. But I'm wondering if trying to manage three sources would be spreading myself too thin and if the cost (although fairly minimal) is not worthwhile.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fslag338]Just a word of warning. We all know there are many LB on DIA etc. Most tell it either in their profile or in their first mail. But there are those losers who you have to meet to find out. Goddamn time wasters. Happened to me twice in a week grrrrrr Best advice I can give (and will do from now on) is to call any girl you want to meet b4 and try to listen for changed voice. Although even that is no guarantee. Yes cam can help too but i dont have time for all that chat stuff.[/QUOTE]
LOL...bro you are not alone...i too had encounters with LB's pretending to be girls...Cam, Mobile phone confirmation are no guarantee....its collateral damage....I don't have the heart to throw them away rudely....i usually buy them beers, give some money and send them in a taxi....and hunt again....i have given up weeding out LB and real girls...of the 100 girls you date may be one would turn out to be a LB...its no biggie...keep on hunting :)
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[QUOTE=Toronto]Would you say that other sites that charge a fee are worth the premium over DIA? Last time I used DIA for about a week before the trip. For my next trip I was thinking about using DIA, Tagged and one site that charges a fee. But I'm wondering if trying to manage three sources would be spreading myself too thin and if the cost (although fairly minimal) is not worthwhile. Thanks.[/QUOTE]IMHO:
Pay sites:
- Since they charge men for access.. you get a good girl/guy ratio which is in your favor.. ( a big plus )
- The girls tend to be more marriage oriented ( a plus or minus depending what you are looking for )
- Mostly used by older dudes so if you are a senior, you have less youngsters to compete with
- Some have search by location which is really useful
Free sites:
- Large fishing pool (quantity with rare quality)
- Infested with trannies, ladyboys and other fags
- Probably easier to find casual sex (debateable)
- More scammers
My opinion is.. there is a lot more crap on free sites and you'll waste more time separating the wheat from the weeds..
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]IMHO:
- Mostly used by older dudes so if you are a senior, you have less youngsters to compete with
Free sites:
- Large fishing pool (quantity with rare quality)
- Infested with trannies, ladyboys and other fags
- Probably easier to find casual sex (debateable)
- More scammers
My opinion is.. there is a lot more crap on free sites and you'll waste more time separating the wheat from the weeds..[/QUOTE]Being "an older dude" but also being a "successful dude " I really don't get caught up with trannies and LB AND have no problem in procuring free casual sex partners from the free sites.
I'm wondering if this is because I generally do my chatting with the ladies whilst I'm at work, generally in the morning.
This may classify me as less of a "player" as we all know that DIA is full at night with some normal butt often strange people trying to play the US market.
Going to Manila next week and will be seeing 2-3 repeats and 2-3 new ones with whom I expect full success and no money will be exchanged, all courtesy of free sites.
Good Luck Toronto.
Hope all going well with you.
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[QUOTE=X Man].....consider purchasing one month of CB just prior to your trip. It's fairly cheap, you get to test it for yourself, and you'll get more contacts than you could possibly meet.[/QUOTE]
no more than 1 month and fairly before you trip.
Do NOT make that mistake I did - a 3 months membership.
The longer you chat with that girls - the more likely they will ask you for money in one or the other way. Also do not chat too long prior your meeting because that girls will tend to cling on you and will become difficult to get rid off....
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I'm wondering if this is because I generally do my chatting with the ladies whilst I'm at work, generally in the morning.[/QUOTE]Good point, I think there is more quality to be found in the morning before the freaks wake up and go out to pasture.
[QUOTE=Rampana]Also do not chat too long prior your meeting because that girls will tend to cling on you and will become difficult to get rid off....[/QUOTE]I have to disagree. The more time/effort you spend, the more likely she will sleep with you when you actually meet. Women like romance, they are not looking for a quick fuck (if you meet one who is, it's either a ladyboy or a prostitute). Most girls will NOT go to your hotel if all you did for warmup is to say "I am coming to Manila next week whats your phone number?".
Give the girl what she wants (some love) and you'll get what you want (some action)
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Got booted once
Now i use special proxies to connect to DIA, they do not know my IP, but some proxies IP. I have an abundance of cell phone numbers and IPs in case they try that shit again. Like most sites they are being a**holes now that they are popular.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]They have your ISP number, so if you were booted off then your ISP is still banned. A new ID will not help.
That's my guess anyway. I often change my ID and never have any problems. Go to an internet cafe and set up a new account from there and then see if it can be used from your regular computer.[/QUOTE]
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Just use a cam
If you cannot tell a LB with cam, then you are new to mongering or nearsighted and need to see an opthamologist. Also, if they've had the complete tranny treatment, they are, for all intents and purposes, except pregnancy, (a benefit!) women.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012]LOL...bro you are not alone...i too had encounters with LB's pretending to be girls...Cam, Mobile phone confirmation are no guarantee....its collateral damage....I don't have the heart to throw them away rudely....i usually buy them beers, give some money and send them in a taxi....and hunt again....i have given up weeding out LB and real girls...of the 100 girls you date may be one would turn out to be a LB...its no biggie...keep on hunting :)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
Good Luck Toronto.
Hope all going well with you.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, the tips I got from you when we met my last trip greatly helped.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Now i use special proxies to connect to DIA, they do not know my IP, but some proxies IP. I have an abundance of cell phone numbers and IPs in case they try that shit again. Like most sites they are being a**holes now that they are popular.[/QUOTE]
TC
That can work but DIA is getting wise and has few that it can spot so need to use various. Certainly in the UAE some proxies were useless for DIA but great for ISG...bizarre but true :D
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On-line dating
Check this out,
A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.
[url]http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/online-dating-10-psychological-insights.php[/url]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Check this out,
A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.
[url]http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/online-dating-10-psychological-insights.php[/url][/QUOTE]Love the quote in it that " online daters lie, but only a little".
That just about sums me up. LOL.
Or" Internet dating encourages diversity". I agree. Mine are all between 38 kg and 52kg and all Asian. Very diverse!
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Check this out,
A bit of psychobabble - I will explain it to you when we next meet WR, although a psychologist would get a whole conference out of studying you LOL.
Joke lang.
[url]http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/09/online-dating-10-psychological-insights.php[/url][/QUOTE]
Well as long as she was cute slim pinay and freshly shaved with a leaning towards naughty/kinky then I would happily play along :D
As for the link well:
1. Some are losers...we know that as we have a few memebrs here who are truly sad and use the dating web sites
2. We do lie a lot ...we are mongers (well we are "economical with the truth" :)). Of course when our profile says we are looking for ST fun no strings we are telling the truth of course, but only a few of us ever admit up front to that
3 and 4. Agree..how many times we find a chubby in person not the cutie in the picture? or worse a LB / tranny. Did it really mean we chat longer if we place an animal in our profile picture... well that may get you banned or a large number of unusual friends!!!
5. Disagree. We are older bald guys some more weight than others and no way will a 18-20 American/UK etc girl chat to you let alone let you deflower her (and ask her if she likes bondage and Greek)!! We are opposites of what we chase and desire unless of course the Brad Pitt pill is that good and we are cute and look young as well
6. Agree - we are diverse and some of us very diverse...like Freebie Fan LOL
7. Cant disagree, as we all say that we should get to the point of our message (ie "we need lots of shagging and no complaints about our sexual habits ...just enjoy the leather and PVC" :D)
8. Would "horny" and "hard on" be considered emotional words LOL
9. Interesting statistic and I wonder what it is for mongers like you and me. Once screened including YM etc and C2C I tend to meet most of them but I do reduce that list to a small number initially
10. Well it is maybe for a relationship but for you, me, Freebie and many others we seem to do OK in "relationships" :)
Given the conclusion we are relatively successful as we find what we want most of the time and we are happy and satisfied
Roll on the conference :)
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[QUOTE
I have to disagree. The more time/effort you spend, the more likely she will sleep with you when you actually meet. Women like romance, they are not looking for a quick fuck (if you meet one who is, it's either a ladyboy or a prostitute). Most girls will NOT go to your hotel if all you did for warmup is to say "I am coming to Manila next week whats your phone number?".
Give the girl what she wants (some love) and you'll get what you want (some action)[/QUOTE]
this is also VERY TRUE, WR.
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The method I use..
quickly and efficiently determines which proxies work with with sites.
piece of cake really. all these aholes who think their sites are impenetrable just get alot of extra traffic each time the play games like DIA sh*thead admins try.
if they give me alot of trouble I will take their site down.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]TC
That can work but DIA is getting wise and has few that it can spot so need to use various. Certainly in the UAE some proxies were useless for DIA but great for ISG...bizarre but true :D[/QUOTE]
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Spotting Ladyboys
I have found that it is pretty easy to see who is a ladyboy. The first big clue is in their profile stats. Flipinas tend to be 5'-3" or less in height and 110 lbs or less.
If the girl in the pic is super cute and heignt wieght proportional (especially if there is some visual reference that shows she's not so tall), but her profile says she is 5'-6" and 123 lbs, that my friends is a Ladyboy. Maybe some of them are smart enouph to have figured that out and post fake stats, but in my experience, they usually don't.
This has worked so well for me, that if I check out a girl on DIA and her height is 5'-5" or above, or she looks cute and proporational, but her wieght is above 120 lbs, I just automatically pass on her. A Filipino guy and can easily be 5'-3" or 4", but he will be heavier since he is male. Sometimes also they will post a pic of a pretty sister or cuzin, but they will post correct stats, so this method also defeats that ploy.
Sometimes I may be wrong and sometimes Filipinas arent too bright and they post incorrect information (often thier best friend or a cousin or auntie may have made their profile too and just made shit up). But there are so many filipinas for the taking, that if I occasionnally flush the baby out with the bath water, oh well, too bad for her.
The second big clue is facial features. Some of these ladyboys can be quite pretty. But their features won't be so fine. Pretty Filipinas will tend towards more delicate features, unlike white european woman who can be very pretty while still having larger features. Its not always true, but the vast majority of Filipinas will not be big boned beauties.
Since instituting the height/weight rule, I haven't been sandbagged by a single Ladyboy. Hope this helps someone.
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Spotting Fake Ones
I have found that it is pretty easy to see who is a real girl.
The first big clue is in their profile stats. Filipinas tend to be 5'-3" or less in height and 110 lbs or less. This isn’t always true, of course, but is almost always true. And if she is over 110 lbs, she will look like a chubs in her pic.
If the girl in the pic is super cute and height weight proportional (especially if there is some visual reference that shows she's not so tall), but her profile says she is 5'-6" and 128 lbs, that my friends is a Ladyboy. Maybe some of them are smart enough to have figured that out and post fake stats, but in my experience, they usually dont.
This has worked so well for me, that if i check out a girl on DIA and her height is 5'-5" or above and/or she looks cute and proportional, but her weight is above 120 lbs, i just automatically pass on her. A Filipino guy and can easily be 5'-3" or 4", but he will be heavier since he is male. Sometimes also they will post a pic of a pretty sister or cuzin, but they will post correct stats, so this method also defeats that ploy.
Sometimes I may be wrong and sometimes Filipinas arent too bright and they post incorrect information (often their best friend or a cousin or auntie may have made their profile too and just made shit up). But there are so many Filipinas for the taking, that if i occasionally flush the baby out with the bath water, oh well, too bad for her.
The second big clue is facial features. Some of these fake ladies can be quite pretty. But their features wont be so fine. Pretty Filipinas will tend towards more delicate features, unlike white European woman who can be very pretty while still having larger features. Its not always true, but the vast majority of Filipinas will not be big boned beauties.
A good example of this, is the jaw. If the jawbone is wide or big, but “she” looks pretty and the stats don’t correlate, bingo, u spotted one.
Since instituting the height/weight rule, i haven’t been sandbagged by a single fake lady. Hope this helps someone.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]quickly and efficiently determines which proxies work with with sites.
piece of cake really. all these aholes who think their sites are impenetrable just get alot of extra traffic each time the play games like DIA sh*thead admins try.
if they give me alot of trouble I will take their site down.[/QUOTE]
I see. I suspect that taking the DIA site down is not going to make you a popular guy on ISG. Or don't you give a Sh*t about other mongers??
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New DIA accounts
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I got booted off DIA awhile back. Probaby for telling a few too many ladyboys to fuck off. I tried to setup another account with a new email address. Durring the setup DIA also asked for a text code to be sent to cell phone so I used my friends cell # to get the code and entered it. Account was setup but needed to wait 48 hours for approval. For some reason it was not approved. Has anyone had this problem?[/QUOTE]
They seem to be able to recognise and blacklist your PC. I don't know whether they collect info or they have put a cookie onto your machine. The net result is that if you get booted off you are likely to have to set a new account and upload a photo up on someone else's PC/laptop. I don't know how they cope with internet cafe Pcs as obviously there will be plenty that get blacklisted. Once your new account is up and running you are able to open it from your old "blacklisted" PC/Laptop
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Free Sex?
[quote=sprokit69]i'm currently visiting for 3 weeks. usually i hang out in manila for a couple if days, shopping at lac now mbc. this time decided to try freebies, hunted on tagged.com. this us a great site, like facebook. got 3 numbers out if 10 tries. and have met all 3. met them in moa and robinsons. 2 went on to clubbing then spent the night, neither asked for anything in return. the 3rd one wanted to go with me to my hotel, but being 18 and looking younger, did not have her id, so i passed, didn't want any **** problems.
i also met 1 of the girls i've chatted with on cams2chat.en she didn't mess around coming straight to my room and spending the night. she wanted only cab fare even though i tried to give more.
now i'm in angeles doing girls the old fashioned way. things there are pretty much normal with the exception of a couple clubs still shutdown.[/quote]
plenty of girls on these dating sites won't "ask for anything in return" the question is whether this is because she is too shy/embarassed to ask or whether she is perfectly happy not to get anything in return. i've known 20 yr old girls who spent the night with some say 50 yr old guy in say the marriott (costing maybe 5000p per night) who were absolutely seething that in the morning he told them to go "because he had a meeting" and in some cases didn't give them a single peso even for the taxi. however when i asked well did you ask for anything they say, no i'm not like that, i just assumed that he is mature enough to understand that i can't do it for free.
now this is the type of guy who is probably regaling his buddies or the folks on forums like this how phil girls are so easy, that he is still attractive enough to pull young girls blah blah.
in some cases these guys are cheap charlies who just want to minimise their expenditure, however i presume that guys willing to pay marriott type rates (though admittedly for some the question is money paid out of his own pocket vs on corporate expense account) either don't know the score here or are on some sort of ego trip.
in some cases guys have actually been quite generous with presents such as shopping at ayala mall or buying flowers etc. what they don't seem to appreciate is that in asia: cash is king.
for a poor girl spending 1000p at a posh restaurant or 2000p buying stuff worth 500p at ayala or 3000p on flowers doesn't pay the bills . they are generally much happier with a crisp 1000p note as "heres something for the taxi ".
i'm not suggesting that every phils girl needs to be paid.
1 some girls are playing the long game of trying to persuade you that they are a good girl to marry.
2 some girls have a well paid job or family or foreign bf support so are not too worried about money.
3 some girls are relatively mature or otherwise not so appealing so are primarily interested in sex for pleasure
4 some girls are out for a good night, get drunk and horny and are looking for a reasonably attractive guy to fuck.
however for the vast majority of poor girls either students or shop girls etc on 5000p a month, the idea of going with a fat balding 50 year old white guy is the hope/expectation that he will help her financially.
because in the less touristed parts of phils, many of these girls will have only met a few guys, they will not have learned that these issues sometimes need to be clarified in advance, in the way that girls with greater concentrations of tourists such as thailand certainly do.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]
In some cases these guys are cheap charlies who just want to minimise their expenditure, however I presume that guys willing to pay Marriott type rates (though admittedly for some the question is money paid out of his own pocket vs on corporate expense account) either don't know the score here or are on some sort of ego trip.
In some cases guys have actually been quite generous with presents such as shopping at Ayala mall or buying flowers etc. What they don't seem to appreciate is that in Asia: Cash is King.
However for the vast majority of poor girls either students or shop girls etc on 5000P a month, the idea of going with a fat balding 50 year old white guy is the hope/expectation that he will help her financially.
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I tend to concur with a lot GL says, but I with some girls suggest food shopping at Metro in Cebu or SM in Makati for example-some wont buy fresh meat as no refridgerator. That can be more pricey than a crisp note but gives extra brownie points also. Some girls I know cant explain to mom how she got the crisp note...may pinays just cant lie to parents as they to us guys
But as a 50+ balding fat guy, the majority like cash plus a tip if you are not a real cheap charlie such as load for the mobile..again small gesture always very beneficial to everyone in the long run
And the Brad pills work trust me :D Am not 50 etc but just Mr Gwapo :D
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I've known 20 yr old girls who spent the night with some say 50 yr old guy in say the Marriott (costing maybe 5000P per night) who were absolutely seething that in the morning he told them to go "because he had a meeting" and in some cases didn't give them a single peso even for the taxi. However When i asked well did you ask for anything they say, no I'm not like that, I just assumed that he is mature enough to understand that i can't do it for free.[/QUOTE]The common foreign view that women in asia are money grubbing hos is way overdone and originates from men who spend too much time in Angeles City and Pattaya.
I like intelligent women and tend to date girls who have a decent paying job (outsourcing/teaching/managerial) .. they never asked me for a dime and were insulted if I offer.
My age might have something to do with it (am 29) so perhaps they are aiming for the wedding ring with this strategy.
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Age
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]The common foreign view that women in asia are money grubbing hos is way overdone and originates from men who spend too much time in Angeles City and Pattaya.
I like intelligent women and tend to date girls who have a decent paying job (outsourcing/teaching/managerial) .. they never asked me for a dime and were insulted if I offer.
My age might have something to do with it (am 29) so perhaps they are aiming for the wedding ring with this strategy.[/QUOTE]
For sure age is very important. If you are 29 and reasonably good looking there will be many mid 20s girls who will want to date you and are happy enough if you pay for drinks/meal etc. Poorer girls or girls looking to raise funds will be very wary of going with sub 35 year olds for this very reason - because he is probably expecting "free" sex. However there are some overweight /not so good looking 50/60 year olds who are still handsome 30 year olds in their own imaginations. These guys may be attractive prospects to 35s + divorcees etc, but for 20s girls it will almost certainly be some sort of financial / material gain tha they are looking for.
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Rich guys tipping; DIA motives
In my experience, a large majority of DIA ladies are looking for financial support and/or direct payments. Unless the woman has a very good job or other assets they will all be looking for financial help in some form or another. The well-off and professionals are not on DIA that much, and, if they are, they tend to be independent, like western women, with similar attitudes and behavior. They also tend to be too busy to have much time to spend on a man-which, depending on your outlook-can be an advantage. I have not had experience with the other sites as I will not pay put myself in competition with other men for women in a 3rd world country like the Phil.
Also re the Marriott guy not giving anything, apparently this lady is rather naive. I learned, driving cab a long long time ago, that the cheapest bastards are the rich. They will have you drive them up to their Lear Jet, load luggage for 4 people and then give you a 1% "tip" or no tip at all. This is, after all, how many of them go their money, not by being nice guys.
She was naive to expect anything for someone staying at the Marriott and she should have made her requirements known.
Do not deceive yourself. While your young age and looks factor into the equation, most ALL women are looking at your ability to support them, either now or in the future. In addition most all want you to "love" them and be faithful to them. They want your money, your youth and good looks and they want to put you on a leash as well. And they tell us that men are selfish?
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]The common foreign view that women in asia are money grubbing hos is way overdone and originates from men who spend too much time in Angeles City and Pattaya.
I like intelligent women and tend to date girls who have a decent paying job (outsourcing/teaching/managerial) .. they never asked me for a dime and were insulted if I offer.
My age might have something to do with it (am 29) so perhaps they are aiming for the wedding ring with this strategy.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]For sure age is very important. If you are 29 and reasonably good looking there will be many mid 20s girls who will want to date you and are happy enough if you pay for drinks/meal etc. Poorer girls or girls looking to raise funds will be very wary of going with sub 35 year olds for this very reason. Because he is probably expecting "free" sex. However there are some overweight /not so good looking 50/60 year olds who are still handsome 30 year olds in their own imaginations. These guys may be attractive prospects to 35s + divorcees etc, but for 20s girls it will almost certainly be some sort of financial / material gain tha they are looking for.[/QUOTE]GL, Luckily for us, we all see the world with different eyes.
For instance, my sweet Indonesian friend (who I will have with me on a 5 day business trip next wek), has just turned 22.
When she was a teenager she dated white guys in their 20s, and generally got cheated and used by them.
She decided and realised that a 50 something guy (who in this case has never faced up to the fact he is 50, altho not fat nor bald) is way better for her.
She gets flights paid, which I guess I might pay for is she was my GF anyway. She gets little gifts, which again she might get if she was my full time GF.
Beyond that she doesn't get not has she ever asked for anything. She's a full time student and takes time off her studies to be with me.
So to the comment that they will "almost certainly ", don't assume everyone is the same as you have experienced.
As yes GL I have read and enjoyed all your Cebu reports, so I'm not targeting you, just explaining that its not always what it seems.
In Manila I have a few ladies I see, who are all between 21-28. Some have good jobs, some have no jobs. The ones with good jobs seem to appreciate dinner and a good bonk.
The ones with no jobs seem to appreciate food, drinks, a good bonk, and they may also get a P500 or P1000 taxi money tip.
Both seem to regularly be available to me again, the "almost certainly " doesn't apply.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]In my experience, a large majority of DIA ladies are looking for financial support and/or direct payments. Unless the woman has a very good job or other assets they will all be looking for financial help in some form or another. The well-off and professionals are not on DIA that much, and, if they are, they tend to be independent, like western women, with similar attitudes and behavior. They also tend to be too busy to have much time to spend on a man-which, depending on your outlook-can be an advantage. I have not had experience with the other sites as I will not pay put myself in competition with other men for women in a 3rd world country like the Phil.
Also re the Marriott guy not giving anything, apparently this lady is rather naive. I learned, driving cab a long long time ago, that the cheapest bastards are the rich. They will have you drive them up to their Lear Jet, load luggage for 4 people and then give you a 1% "tip" or no tip at all. This is, after all, how many of them go their money, not by being nice guys.
She was naive to expect anything for someone staying at the Marriott and she should have made her requirements known.
Do not deceive yourself. While your young age and looks factor into the equation, most ALL women are looking at your ability to support them, either now or in the future. In addition most all want you to "love" them and be faithful to them. They want your money, your youth and good looks and they want to put you on a leash as well. And they tell us that men are selfish?[/QUOTE]
I agree with this. The thing to remember is that for the majority of young Phil girls being on DIA / CB /FH etc is a significant INVESTMENT of time and money.
Most of the guys are using unmetered broadband at home and work and find chatting with the girls and trying to see "how far they will go" a mildly amusing way of killing time. For the girls they will be spending maybe an hour a day on line costing them say 20P - that may not sound much but if your daily income is 200P it represents an investment of 10% of your income.
If you are a cute sexy girl you aren't going to do this just on the off chance you will get a "handsome young man" willing to fuck you for the night, because guess what all you have to do if you want that is wear a short skirt and go to a nightclub and there will be a queue of young hopefuls more than willing to do that.
So in the majority of cases, the motivation is (1) the dream/hope to get a foreigner to marry her and settle down and/or (2) to earn some extra income.
That does not mean that handsome young guys wanting free short term sex will have no luck on DIA, they may well do as many Phil girls are quite excited to meet young foreign guys, especially if they leave it unclear that they are (1) not looking for a long term partner and (2) have no intention of paying anything. and also if they are prepared to make some effort such as buying drinks/meal, not expecting immediate sex ,going on second dates etc. What it does mean is that that was not really what the girl joined up to DIA for.
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[quote=greglondon]i agree with this. the thing to remember is that for the majority of young phil girls being on dia / cb /fh etc is a significant investment of time and money.
most of the guys are using unmetered broadband at home and work and find chatting with the girls and trying to see "how far they will go" a mildly amusing way of killing time. for the girls they will be spending maybe an hour a day on line costing them say 20p - that may not sound much but if your daily income is 200p it represents an investment of 10% of your income.[/quote]
well greg i am in a filipino netcafe right now and the place is packed with:
- schoolboys playing warcraft and counterstrike
- girls playing farmville on facebook
- some characters who just came here for the aircon
i see no "investment" activity of any kind around me :)
but you make good comments guys.. you got me thinking perhaps we just get contacted by different types of women because of our age differences?
here is what i usually encounter on online dating sites:
1. (majority) 24-33 year old women looking for a husband, and having a hard time finding an eligible bachelor among the penniless, jobless and irresponsible men surrounding them. most filipino men of skill and value seem to be employed in dubai or qatar and what is left back home is rather low on quality. some have a kid or two left over as a present from said men..
2. (way too many) fags and transvestites looking for a fuck buddy, scammers and posers fishing for a western union sucker, and other types of online pests.
3. (a large number of) curious 17-20 year old students connecting from school computer lab, nearby 20peso/hr netcafe or auntie's 1000 peso per month dsl line.. many are virgins, have no idea what they are doing and have the mental maturity of a western 13 year old.. they are kids to me, i met a few in real life and the experience felt like a toxic mixture of babysitting and ****philia
4. (a small number of) call center slaves taking a break between giving useless advice to an irate at&t customer and useless apologies to an irate chase bank customer, to kill some time chatting online from the office computer...
5. (a small number of) province farm girls who came to the city to study, live in a college dormitory and dont have 2 pesos to rub together. this is the only group who ever asked me for any financial help in exchange for "girlfriend services". as a percentage of online dating population, they are a rare critter, you need a bit of money to go online and they dont have it.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]...............................
But as a 50+ balding fat guy, the majority like cash plus a tip if you are not a real cheap charlie such as load for the mobile..again small gesture always very beneficial to everyone in the long run
And the Brad pills work trust me :D Am not 50 etc but just Mr Gwapo :D[/QUOTE]
You're too modest WR. You are trying to fool the guys here into thinking you are NOT a tall, sexy, dashing foreigner oozing sex appeal. We all know how those Brad Pitt pills work like a charm.
GLs 3 recent posts are excellent summaries and explain the situation clearly. Rather coincidentally, I met a girl today just to say hello (no hanky panky.... yet) and she didn't want lunch or coffee; she wanted me to give her the cash for whatever that was gonna cost as she was too shy to just ask for cash straigh tup to get home.
I helped her.
She is a work-in-progress.
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Dia girls
If you are looking for young 18-25 year old girls this is the best place. It is free for all to join and that is why loads of Phi girls are there. Most of the girls do not care how old you are as long as they see you as a sponsor for School, family etc. It is even OK for them if you visit once or twice to Phi to see her as long as money keeps coming.
For us mongers it is a nice diversion to meet normal girls. It is good to play with them and see where it goes if you can afford little money they ask for. Besides I know we all waste money in the bars and bargirls. Why not get one or many regular girlfriends on the side with the same amount of money.
Why complain about giving these girls money?
From My experience unlike in the western world these girls are not looking to get wined and dined in expensive restaurents( In fact they hate the food) and expecting expensive gifts. Once I gave a girl mere 500 pesos and told her to go shopping in Manila. She went to Baclaran roadside shops and bought lots of clothes for 300 pesos and tried to give me back 200 pesos. Her face really lit up. The most expensive things they ask for is a cell phone.
We spend thousands of dollars to to Phi to have a good time. what is so wrong with giving these girls few hundred dollars.
If you tried this cheapo stuff with your hometown GF she will dump you in a heart beat.
Do not e cheap. Help these girls and I will tell you they return the favor ten fold. Yes, there are scams you have to watch out for like asking for money without meeting, extra demands of money online etc. But if you handle it right you will be wiser. So what if you loose some money in these scams , think of it as a donation for trying. It is part of the risk you take. I assure you even if you get scammed it will not amount to a large sum which you cannot afford. Yes, I have sent $100 to a girl for the air-ticket for her to meet me. She scammed me. I wrote it off as donation. But of all the girls I have dated from DIA so far this is the only one. I have sent money to many other girls and they always showed up.
Most of these girls do not drink, not into barhopping, quite happy with cheap food, not worried about cheap hotels you are staying etc.
If you tally your expenses being with a regular girl and being with a bargirl you will definitely realise it is cheaper with a regular girl even if you give her money.
In fact these girls know very well we mongers are the scammers promising the world to them and running off to try another girl. They know very few stable long lasting relationship results from these long distance relationship.
My advice is help these girls to clear your conscience and do not worry if they lie to you, see other guys or whatever.
If somebody is clearly looking for a stable , long term relationship it is necessary for them to filter out the scammers vs the real darlings.
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Reading Sammon and then GregLondon a few posts earlier, I admit I feel torn. I hope everyone is feeling torn with me.
The two posts seem entirely contradictory, yet I agree with most of each post, and disagree with both too.
Maybe I am entirely bat, fkn stupid and crazy. Or drunk. Or (I'll leave this space open for my fan club. Boopaloopy where are u?).
I really think we all spend too much time trying to evaluate the Pilipinos, but not necessarily evaluating the evaluators. After all, we are mostly anonymous here.
As for GE and WR, I've met them and they are top notch people who certainly look like Brad Pitt. In the eyes of their Filipina fans.
And me thinks me is incoherently babbling a bit. So will sign out now.
[QUOTE=Sammon]If you are looking for young 18-25 year old girls this is the best place. It is free for all to join and that is why loads of Phi girls are there. Most of the girls do not care how old you are as long as they see you as a sponsor for School, family etc. It is even OK for them if you visit once or twice to Phi to see her as long as money keeps coming.
For us mongers it is a nice diversion to meet normal girls. It is good to play with them and see where it goes if you can afford little money they ask for. Besides I know we all waste money in the bars and bargirls. Why not get one or many regular girlfriends on the side with the same amount of money.
Why complain about giving these girls money?
From My experience unlike in the western world these girls are not looking to get wined and dined in expensive restaurents( In fact they hate the food) and expecting expensive gifts. Once I gave a girl mere 500 pesos and told her to go shopping in Manila. She went to Baclaran roadside shops and bought lots of clothes for 300 pesos and tried to give me back 200 pesos. Her face really lit up. The most expensive things they ask for is a cell phone.
We spend thousands of dollars to to Phi to have a good time. what is so wrong with giving these girls few hundred dollars.
If you tried this cheapo stuff with your hometown GF she will dump you in a heart beat.
Do not e cheap. Help these girls and I will tell you they return the favor ten fold. Yes, there are scams you have to watch out for like asking for money without meeting, extra demands of money online etc. But if you handle it right you will be wiser. So what if you loose some money in these scams , think of it as a donation for trying. It is part of the risk you take. I assure you even if you get scammed it will not amount to a large sum which you cannot afford. Yes, I have sent $100 to a girl for the air-ticket for her to meet me. She scammed me. I wrote it off as donation. But of all the girls I have dated from DIA so far this is the only one. I have sent money to many other girls and they always showed up.
Most of these girls do not drink, not into barhopping, quite happy with cheap food, not worried about cheap hotels you are staying etc.
If you tally your expenses being with a regular girl and being with a bargirl you will definitely realise it is cheaper with a regular girl even if you give her money.
In fact these girls know very well we mongers are the scammers promising the world to them and running off to try another girl. They know very few stable long lasting relationship results from these long distance relationship.
My advice is help these girls to clear your conscience and do not worry if they lie to you, see other guys or whatever.
If somebody is clearly looking for a stable , long term relationship it is necessary for them to filter out the scammers vs the real darlings.[/QUOTE]
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Agreed
Agree with all you have said. I might add that this is just one more indication of how bad life is in the Philippines. In spite of their frequent less than honest behavior, my heart goes out to these poor women. This should also be an alert to those thinking about retiring in the Phil. Be sure you have a good stable income because it's NOT that cheap over there as many claim. Yet the crooks running the gov. over there keep raising visa fees that are already higher than most other countries. Life in the larger cities there can be expensive compared to places like Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia and even Thailand.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I agree with this. The thing to remember is that for the majority of young Phil girls being on DIA / CB /FH etc is a significant INVESTMENT of time and money.
Most of the guys are using unmetered broadband at home and work and find chatting with the girls and trying to see "how far they will go" a mildly amusing way of killing time. For the girls they will be spending maybe an hour a day on line costing them say 20P - that may not sound much but if your daily income is 200P it represents an investment of 10% of your income.
If you are a cute sexy girl you aren't going to do this just on the off chance you will get a "handsome young man" willing to fuck you for the night, because guess what all you have to do if you want that is wear a short skirt and go to a nightclub and there will be a queue of young hopefuls more than willing to do that.
So in the majority of cases, the motivation is (1) the dream/hope to get a foreigner to marry her and settle down and/or (2) to earn some extra income.
That does not mean that handsome young guys wanting free short term sex will have no luck on DIA, they may well do as many Phil girls are quite excited to meet young foreign guys, especially if they leave it unclear that they are (1) not looking for a long term partner and (2) have no intention of paying anything. and also if they are prepared to make some effort such as buying drinks/meal, not expecting immediate sex ,going on second dates etc. What it does mean is that that was not really what the girl joined up to DIA for.[/QUOTE]
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haha, GOOD post!
good analysis by fast buck artist. actually, the ones that are making the big investment are not the majority. but i have several i have chatted with for a few years in some cases that are spending a good deal of money on chat cafe fees. the funny thing is that they all claim abject poverty, but as the veil is gradually lifted you find they have various sources of income, including foreigners who send them money, and they are not so poor as they originally made out to be.
if a woman claims she is dirt poor and is spending 5 hours a day in a net cafe, there is something wrong with that equation.
i have met a few that fall into your category of farm girls who came to the city, but they generally do not last (as you implied). the fags, lb, trannies etc. i spot quickly and i used to put in my profile, do not msg me for them.
and, again, you are correct that many of the younger filipinas come across as having a mental age several years younger than their actual age. but not all. also the smarter they are, the more demanding they are is my experience.
[quote=fast buck artist]well greg i am in a filipino netcafe right now and the place is packed with:
- schoolboys playing warcraft and counterstrike
- girls playing farmville on facebook
- some characters who just came here for the aircon
i see no "investment" activity of any kind around me :)
but you make good comments guys.. you got me thinking perhaps we just get contacted by different types of women because of our age differences?
here is what i usually encounter on online dating sites:
1. (majority) 24-33 year old women looking for a husband, and having a hard time finding an eligible bachelor among the penniless, jobless and irresponsible men surrounding them. most filipino men of skill and value seem to be employed in dubai or qatar and what is left back home is rather low on quality. some have a kid or two left over as a present from said men..
2. (way too many) fags and transvestites looking for a fuck buddy, scammers and posers fishing for a western union sucker, and other types of online pests.
3. (a large number of) curious 17-20 year old students connecting from school computer lab, nearby 20peso/hr netcafe or auntie's 1000 peso per month dsl line.. many are virgins, have no idea what they are doing and have the mental maturity of a western 13 year old.. they are kids to me, i met a few in real life and the experience felt like a toxic mixture of babysitting and ****philia
4. (a small number of) call center slaves taking a break between giving useless advice to an irate at&t customer and useless apologies to an irate chase bank customer, to kill some time chatting online from the office computer...
5. (a small number of) province farm girls who came to the city to study, live in a college dormitory and dont have 2 pesos to rub together. this is the only group who ever asked me for any financial help in exchange for "girlfriend services". as a percentage of online dating population, they are a rare critter, you need a bit of money to go online and they dont have it.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]clearly. ; she wanted me to give her the cash for whatever that was gonna cost as she was too shy to just ask for cash straigh tup to get home.
I helped her.
She is a work-in-progress.[/QUOTE]Isnt it funny how quickly they fall into one of a few categories
Category 1. I would LIKE to progress with her.
Category 2. I have met her so shes now a work in progress.
Category 3. I have bonked her so now I've made progress. Now I must decide if shes
Category 3a ) Never to have any progress or congress with her.
Category 3b ) Damn that was fun. Can we meet again !
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Isnt it funny how quickly they fall into one of a few categories
Category 1. I would LIKE to progress with her.
Category 2. I have met her so shes now a work in progress.
Category 3. I have bonked her so now I've made progress. Now I must decide if shes
Category 3a ) Never to have any progress or congress with her.
Category 3b ) Damn that was fun. Can we meet again ![/QUOTE]Well my categories based on your excellent summary are:
Category 1. Slim, sexy, under 20, hope she is shaved and naughty :D
Category 2. She is slim etc so now I want her, so how do I get her into my room? ;)
Category 3. Great in bed but...
Category 3a ) is she kinky/naughty enough and wants a Greek education, try a threesome etc.... so see again.
Category 3b ) not keen on the kinky (ie for me 'normal') etc, is clear she is a one woman man (and not a 2-4 man woman at same time) :( ...so not see her again
Category 4 (you forget this Evil Twin): chubby...never see (well some do but not my flavour)
FF...are you sure that was you who I met in Manila? " a 50 something guy (who in this case has never faced up to the fact he is 50, altho not fat nor bald)"......great impersonation FF :D ........and we are as young as the girl 9or peach RK) that we feel at the time LOL
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[QUOTE=X Man]Maybe I am entirely bat, fkn stupid and crazy. Or drunk. Or (I'll leave this space open for my fan club. Boopaloopy where are u?).
I really think we all spend too much time trying to evaluate the Pilipinos, but not necessarily evaluating the evaluators. After all, we are mostly anonymous here.
As for GE and WR, I've met them and they are top notch people who certainly look like Brad Pitt. In the eyes of their Filipina fans.
And me thinks me is incoherently babbling a bit. So will sign out now.[/QUOTE]XMan,
Am sure a few other fans will reply to your question although I did not see anything in you to suggest what Bopalula and others have noted despite never having met you. I have met you and know you to be a conservative Chiristian helping young bar girls and schoolies with their education. Just like me
As I keep saying life is full of different flavours/colours and we all have a variety of tastes. In my case quite a few variations on the same theme (ie pinay, slim, shaved, under 20 hopefully, with naughty/kinky intentions). Trying to understand the pinays can drive you crazy so just go with the flow and enjoy it.
Last night my Cebu favourite asked a question about me and said while I thought that the question was personal (in my culture) it was 'pinoy business' to ask. Ie gossip. Many have nothing to do so love to gossip especially if a pinay is seen with a white guy
And if you tried to evaluate the evaluators. That would make you certifiably mad and loony before you reached a conclusion. Apart from Bop who is clearly easy to read and categorise.
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From DIA
Oh, bless her heart.
"hi X thanks for your message will im ok now im with my family.i hope we could mate one day"
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Isnt it funny how quickly they fall into one of a few categories
Category 1. I would LIKE to progress with her.
Category 2. I have met her so shes now a work in progress.
Category 3. I have bonked her so now I've made progress. Now I must decide if shes
Category 3a ) Never to have any progress or congress with her.
Category 3b ) Damn that was fun. Can we meet again ![/QUOTE]
Excellent analysis FF.
I met a classic DIA today.
Slim and nicely constructed WR - definitely your type.
We had lunch and I decided she was Category 1 and 2 but would still need some work.
We decided to see a movie. Five minutes in and she had her hand on my (rapidly hardening) member and 5 mins further on she whispered that it's better if we go somewhere more private. So much for being shy.
We went to a SOGO.
In the room she reverted to shyness until the gear came off and then woohoo - it was no holds barred. I used up the full 3 hours s/t in the hotel.
Result?
I cycled through all of FF's categories, including 3(b) and not 3(a).
It showed me that you can never predict what is going to happen with these girls
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Well my categories based on your excellent summary are:
Category 1. Slim, sexy, under 20, hope she is shaved and naughty :D
Category 2. She is slim etc so now I want her, so how do I get her into my room? ;)
Category 3. Great in bed but...
Category 3a ) is she kinky/naughty enough and wants a Greek education, try a threesome etc.... so see again.
Category 3b ) not keen on the kinky (ie for me 'normal') etc, is clear she is a one woman man (and not a 2-4 man woman at same time) :( ...so not see her again
Category 4 (you forget this Evil Twin): chubby...never see (well some do but not my flavour)
FF...are you sure that was you who I met in Manila? " a 50 something guy (who in this case has never faced up to the fact he is 50, altho not fat nor bald)"......great impersonation FF :D ........and we are as young as the girl 9or peach RK) that we feel at the time LOL[/QUOTE]In Manila as we speak. Just dropped off lasts night entertainment. 37kg, and 4ft 11. Engaged but clearly I add to her sense of fun.
Off to meet the 10.00am appt, in Eurotel. Then work.
Then the 22 year old will be visiting me.
Have a choice of 4 for Saturday but only sufficient time to do 2. All have stated they wil be happy to wear the cheap tacky bikinis I got for them.
Ah.. another Manila trip does wonders for a man.
And today I think, similiar to Benjamin Button Im now in my 20's.
Maybe it was last nights hottie saying " oh Freebie you are so much more energetic than my BF ( who is mid 30s !) lol.... Oldies ROCK!
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[QUOTE=Sammon]
Why complain about giving these girls money?
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Because you are not doing the girl a favor in the long run.
Every time you send money, these girls develop an expectation of easy cash. Why should she bust her ass getting a second job or pursuing a degree when she can just "work" the internet cafes trolling dopes for money?
And every time she succeeds, she tells 10 friends. Each then tell 10 more. Pretty soon, you have an entire country of girls expecting to make money the easy way.
What happens when nobody wires anymore because she's no longer cute and young? Your money discouraged her from preparing for a future. So ultimately, your money harmed her.
This is one reason why the Philippines is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. The entire country is one big welfare basket case because it's filled with lazy incompetant people out for the short term.
[QUOTE=Sammon]
From My experience unlike in the western world these girls are not looking to get wined and dined in expensive restaurents( In fact they hate the food) [/QUOTE]
With respect, this is an overly cynical view of Western women.
Most Western women can afford to wine and dine themselves. Let's cut the bullshit. Most women in America (where I live) are not gold diggers at the Filipina level. For proof, go to any university. Most guys in college have girlfriends, and probably get laid the most, even if they cannot afford to wine and dine their dates.
Besides, there are plenty of well-to-do guys who are single and frustrated. I'm Asian. The Asian male demographic earns far more than the national average, but gets laid and dates far less than your average black or hispanic guy. So clearly, money does not automatically equate to sex and love in America.
In the U.S., if a women shows affection, it's probably because she likes me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet. I don't find that gratifying one bit.
[QUOTE=Sammon]
We spend thousands of dollars to to Phi to have a good time. what is so wrong with giving these girls few hundred dollars.
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There's a big difference between wasting money on bars and wasting it sending to some girl.
At the bars, I have fun with the money I waste. I'm actually there, drinking, having sex and enjoying her company.
If I wire money to a girl, I don't partake in the fun. It gets sent and that's it. In fact, she likely takes the money and has fun with someone else.
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Ultimately, it's a personal choice to donate money.
People who wire money to the Philippines should fully understand and accept the fact that 1) they're buying a girl's attention and 2) they're providing down payment for future sex. If those are your expectations, hey, by all means send the money.
But I have a feeling most guys who give are hoping to start a relationship. For these types of guys, they are a fool to part with even a penny.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Excellent analysis FF.
I cycled through all of FF's categories, including 3(b) and not 3(a).
It showed me that you can never predict what is going to happen with these girls[/QUOTE]As you liked my text about the 22 year old thought I would share it here (FYI, the same said 22 year old gal is currently asleep having been licked dicked and generally been highly entertaining for past few hours.
One vodka and sprite made her highly energetic for an hour, then. Out of steam
Anyways earlier today, send the same sweet lady an sms, telling her I was in town and would love to see her at 6pm at our usual meeting place.
Her Mom replied stating " Dear Freebie this is the Mum of Sweet 22 year old.
She is currently in school but I will pass on the message and tell her to be sure to meet you at said time and said place. ".
The only thing missing is getting her father to drive her to me LOL.
Ok. Lifes good! Wnjoy your weekend fellow mongers!
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Hey Furry,
We are not fucking up Philippine economy. It is already fucked beyond repair.
There no jobs available. Even the mall jobs are on contract only , no job security. Because of this we mongers can find youn g willing girls. If the economy is good you think you will get any normal girls?
We are not talking here about young college type mongers. They can get girls for free anywhere.
But for older mongers where else you can find young normal girls for fun? In return for their favors you give them money or support them. Do not expect it should be free. Irrespective of if there are demands for money help them. Some maybe too shy to ask but will appreciate help.
If you want to spend money in a bar or bargirls stick with it. Why entice any other girls?
If you are going to date willing girls give them money and gifts. Do not just use them for free and leave. They are not doing this service to you because they are horny. They are hoping and praying for a better life. I have helped some girls through education and I am happy I did that.
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GOOD DEBATE S and FF
[QUOTE=Sammon,
We are not fucking up Philippine economy. It is already fucked beyond repair.
There no jobs available. Even the mall jobs are on contract only , no job security. Because of this we mongers can find young willing girls. If the economy is good you think you will get any normal girls?
They are not doing this service to you because they are horny. They are hoping and praying for a better life. I have helped some girls through education and I am happy I did that.[/QUOTE]Visiting these girls at home can be a real eye-opener. Most of them, like the majority, are POOR, as in almost below the radar by western standards.
For most, the few pesos needed for a jeepney ride and the internet cafe is a significant outlay. It's a bit like buying a lottery ticket with little chance of the big prize, but allows for big dreams.
The dating sites that give us access to millions of these ladies continue to
function because, like the lotteries, they do give hope of the POSSIBILITY
of achieving a better life. So, one girl in a hundred gets money sent to her, or actually gets to meet a foreigner. She tells ten friends, who tell ten more and so it goes.
So, when I give them money in appreciation, and/or for their education,
yes, I am helping both the local economy AND my fellow mongers by encouraging an ongoing supply of these delightful sweeties.
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American women are souless, vacuous *****s
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Because you are not doing the girl a favor in the long run.
*It's hard work and costs them money to work the cafes. You think they would be doing that if they had other good alternatives?
Every time you send money, these girls develop an expectation of easy cash. Why should she bust her ass getting a second job or pursuing a degree when she can just "work" the internet cafes trolling dopes for money?
*Wrong. They are not that stupid. They know what's available and adjust their behavior accordingly.
And every time she succeeds, she tells 10 friends. Each then tell 10 more. Pretty soon, you have an entire country of girls expecting to make money the easy way.
What happens when nobody wires anymore because she's no longer cute and young? Your money discouraged her from preparing for a future. So ultimately, your money harmed her.
*I have a filipina friend there in her 50's who just got a job as a cook. There are opportunities in the Phil. for those that are smart and work hard. His money is not doing anything excepting helping a filipina in an bad country. Alot depends on the amount he sends. Sure, if you fully support a women she will get spoiled. So send them some gifts on their birthday or other holidays. You don't have to overdo it.
This is one reason why the Philippines is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. The entire country is one big welfare basket case because it's filled with lazy incompetant people out for the short term.
*It's that way because of all the corruption in the government. They have no competent leadership, corruption is ingrained in their culture. They need to elect strong, honest leaders. Perhaps they need a dictatorship along the lines of Marcos, but in the opposite direction of leading the way to an honest government that supports it's citizens.
With respect, this is an overly cynical view of Western women.
*not entirely
Most Western women can afford to wine and dine themselves. Let's cut the bullshit. Most women in America (where I live) are not gold diggers at the Filipina level. For proof, go to any university. Most guys in college have girlfriends, and probably get laid the most, even if they cannot afford to wine and dine their dates.
*western women are vacuous dummies in the main. The guys getting laid at college are with women who are counting on their future success in professions whilst simultaneously getting good sex from young handsome guys in the meantime. Ever see a college girl dating a janitor?, a garbage collector? a 7-11 clerk? Hell no. Most American women won't even talk to you if you don't own a car, regardless of whether or not that is by your choice and you can afford a car. They are souless, amoral c*nts in the main, with few exceptions.
Besides, there are plenty of well-to-do guys who are single and frustrated. I'm Asian. The Asian male demographic earns far more than the national average, but gets laid and dates far less than your average black or hispanic guy. So clearly, money does not automatically equate to sex and love in America.
*haha, why would you expect the USA to be any different than the xenophobic racist culture of Japan, for one example. Pot calling kettle black.
Asians are among the most racist cultures on the planet. And you come to the USA expecting to be treated equally. Then there's the issue of all your very tiny dicks. I am sure that factors in also, as well as your short stature.
Women don't want to date men shorter than they are, especially American women.
In the U.S., if a women shows affection, it's probably because she likes me. In the Philippines, I constantly wonder if she likes me or my wallet. I don't find that gratifying one bit.
*Women in the USA are no different from women in other countries. Take your average Filipina and put her into the USA for a year and she will be exactly like all the American K*nts here-selfish, demanding, materialistic and disloyal. I know, I have met plenty of Filipinas at the local Air Base bars here who were stepping out on their American husbands for a night or two of fun with some other man. American k*nts are with you for what the equation offers: looks, money, potential, sexual abilities, etc.
There's a big difference between wasting money on bars and wasting it sending to some girl.
At the bars, I have fun with the money I waste. I'm actually there, drinking, having sex and enjoying her company.
* In the bars you're paying some pimp a premium to drink overpriced liquor and buy expensive tea for the *****s he cheats, in the same fashion he is cheating you. You call this fun? Ha! People that go to these clubs, especially the overpriced clip joints are stoopid, imo. Cut out the middle man and your leverage improves considerably. No poor performers, less money to the monger and more control. Hooker bars are for dummies.
If I wire money to a girl, I don't partake in the fun. It gets sent and that's it. In fact, she likely takes the money and has fun with someone else.
*I sometimes send small amounts go my good friends there. This is because they are POOR and I want to help them. I don't expect anything in return and they have usually given me hours of their paid time at cafes, teaching me about the Phil. and keeping me company. They are friends, same as I would help a friend here in the USA.
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Ultimately, it's a personal choice to donate money.
People who wire money to the Philippines should fully understand and accept the fact that 1) they're buying a girl's attention and 2) they're providing down payment for future sex. If those are your expectations, hey, by all means send the money.
*how about helping a friend?
But I have a feeling most guys who give are hoping to start a relationship. For these types of guys, they are a fool to part with even a penny.[/QUOTE]
*I already have a relationship with the few ladies I send small somes to occasionally. I am doing nothing except giving them small gifts because I like them and consider them friends. I don't expect anything in return, but they are grateful to me as the small amounts I have sent mean alot to them and are insignificant to me.
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Working In The Philippines
I think that there has been a lot of uninformed drivel being bandied here about women getting work in the Philipines.
My observation is that, like most countries, finding work is mostly a matter of attitude. I know filipinas who have very little education, not much going for them. Yet they are never out of work.
I know educated filipinas who are never out of work, earning maybe 50,000 or 60,000 per month.
When I walk around the malls, and through the department stores, I watch the women there. How many of them are busy? Basically they are happy to stand around and waste time, and the customer's money, doing not much. Then their contract expires, and they are out of work again. Well, if I was their boss I would do the same. Only renew the contracs of the women who show the right attitude toward their work, who are doing their best to maximise profit for their employer. Who want to work hard.
When I was employing a number of women, I worked them hard, 12 hour days or more. They were damned good, real performers. Right attitude. And I paid them well. They were happy, I was happy. And when my project came to an end, I wrote excellent references, and helped where I could for them to get into other good jobs.
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[QUOTE=Gangles]I think that there has been a lot of uninformed drivel being bandied here about women getting work in the Philipines.
My observation is that, like most countries, finding work is mostly a matter of attitude. I know filipinas who have very little education, not much going for them. Yet they are never out of work.
I know educated filipinas who are never out of work, earning maybe 50,000 or 60,000 per month.
When I walk around the malls, and through the department stores, I watch the women there. How many of them are busy? Basically they are happy to stand around and waste time, and the customer's money, doing not much. Then their contract expires, and they are out of work again. Well, if I was their boss I would do the same. Only renew the contracs of the women who show the right attitude toward their work, who are doing their best to maximise profit for their employer. Who want to work hard.
When I was employing a number of women, I worked them hard, 12 hour days or more. They were damned good, real performers. Right attitude. And I paid them well. They were happy, I was happy. And when my project came to an end, I wrote excellent references, and helped where I could for them to get into other good jobs.
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I haven't been on the board for awhile. Haven't been to the Philippines for awhile either, but some things never change. Hope to get back this year during Christmas vacation.
It is my understanding that, believe it or not, the Philippine government voted into law many many years ago provisions for workers that mandated that the employer provide all sorts of benefits for full time workers. medical, minimum wage, raises and/or other items. The way around having to provide these benefits to a full time worker is to have them as contract workers and ti have as many contract workers as possible. This is done in the USA as well, but not to the level to be considered as corrupt as it is in the Philippines. In the USA there are other laws that keep you from just hiring and firing workers to keep form paying benefits offered to all other full time employees. Of course the Philippine employment law did not go this far in protection of workers. That said, I'm not sure many of the businesses there could survive if they had to provide all the mandated benefits of full time workers for all employees or even more than just a few workers. That is why the 6 month contract. After 6 months off they can hire them again for 6 more months.
Miss the Philippines though, but not too much as I married a Filipina I met here in the USA. She is not a gold digger and has not become the typical American soulless, self serving, man hating *****. Not yet at least.
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Back to chat room info
sweethoneygracecabello on DIA has some great pic to share. Dont really think the person behind the keyboard is the same as the pix tho. Nice non the less.
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[QUOTE=Gangles]I think that there has been a lot of uninformed drivel being bandied here about women getting work in the Philipines..........................
,,,,,,,, When I was employing a number of women............they were damned good, real performers. Right attitude. And I paid them well. They were happy, I was happy. And when my project came to an end, I wrote excellent references, and helped where I could for them to get into other good jobs.
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I absolutely agree with you Gangles.
Same experience for me too. Both for filipino men and women. They gave me 110% and never hesitated to stay in the office for longer hours to finish jobs to meet deadlines.
There are some fantastic workers here. Some of the IT people are as good as you will find anywhere in the world. An Aussie friend of mine who came to Manila to run 2 weeks of training for call-center technical people went home after a week because he found that there was nothing that he could teach them. True story.
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[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]It is my understanding that, believe it or not, the Philippine government voted into law many many years ago provisions for workers that mandated that the employer provide all sorts of benefits for full time workers. medical, minimum wage, raises and/or other items. The way around having to provide these benefits to a full time worker is to have them as contract workers and ti have as many contract workers as possible.[/QUOTE]This is the trend worldwide, in all countries... as the governments pass moronic new regulations, it raises the cost of hiring people for businesses, so they avoid the burdens by hiring temps, contractors, freelancers, etc.. the only people hiring full timers with full benefits these days are gubmint agencies.
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I have been warned from my Filipina friends
Having made what I Ass_ume are several Filipina friends on chat, I have been warned by them NOT to visit their rivals and never to let them into my hotel room.
Seems they think that when I leave Filipina A to visit Filipina B that Filipina A and her family will do anything and everything to force me to marry her, including violence or having me deported as an "undesirable" character.
Seems they have an exaggerated idea of what brings shame on their family and what expectations they should have from visiting foreigners.
SInce I have been told this by several Filipinas, and in view of the jealousy attacks I have seen when I chat with two at once, I am taking it seriously. Not sure what measures to take to defend against this type of blackmail. Maybe having each Filipina sign a contract stating I am only visiting her and no promises of marriage have been made. Maybe I should record our chat sessions wherein I tell them there are no implied promises of marriage or my even staying with them beyond my short visit time.
Or maybe I must simply stick to p4p players and never let the others, my friends, into my room. The philosophy of telling all you are just there for fun and never staying with one woman more than once or twice is beginning to make good sense to me.
Am I being overly paranoid about all of this? I would have said yes before I had more than one Filipina warn me about the measure they and their family will take to insure my marrying their daughter, even if I have not even actually slept with her. Also, knowing the corrupt nature of the police and judiciary there, we all know that the truth factors very little into the types of decisions that are made with respect to foreigners.
What say ye all?
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]I had more than one Filipina warn me about the measure they and their family will take to insure my marrying their daughter[/QUOTE]I think that's very very unusual talk. Its hard to believe.
To me they ask things like:
"Have you been to PI before?"
I say "Yes many times"
"do you have a GF now?"
"I have no one special, maybe when I am there"
Some say they want to wait until they are married. Hmm but I haven't heard that in a long time.
Yes maybe you should stick to the bar girls...?
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]
Seems they think that when I leave Filipina A to visit Filipina B that Filipina A and her family will do anything and everything to force me to marry her, including violence or having me deported as an "undesirable" character.
Seems they have an exaggerated idea of what brings shame on their family and what expectations they should have from visiting foreigners.
SInce I have been told this by several Filipinas, and in view of the jealousy attacks I have seen when I chat with two at once, I am taking it seriously. Not sure what measures to take to defend against this type of blackmail. Maybe having each Filipina sign a contract stating I am only visiting her and no promises of marriage have been made. Maybe I should record our chat sessions wherein I tell them there are no implied promises of marriage or my even staying with them beyond my short visit time.
Or maybe I must simply stick to p4p players and never let the others, my friends, into my room. The philosophy of telling all you are just there for fun and never staying with one woman more than once or twice is beginning to make good sense to me.
Am I being overly paranoid about all of this? I would have said yes before I had more than one Filipina warn me about the measure they and their family will take to insure my marrying their daughter, even if I have not even actually slept with her. Also, knowing the corrupt nature of the police and judiciary there, we all know that the truth factors very little into the types of decisions that are made with respect to foreigners.
What say ye all?[/QUOTE]
Contracts will mean nothing over there, especially for the foreign party.
You don't have to tell filipina A about filipina B, they'll never know unless you're careless with your cellphone or laptop around her. When I am chatting to two, and she's saying 'you busy?' implying who's the other girl, I just say I went to toilet or internets slow, a random 'is yahoo msg crashing on you?' comment adds to the believability
Don't give the impression you're the 'one-girl guy' from the start, and if you do but she still gets jealous and there are signs there might something sinister afoot, I would leave, seriously. Mind you, this has never happened to me, I usually end it before she gets ideas of meeting the parents and morning school runs... and with filipinas this starts 1 month into relationships I would say :o
The best defence in the situation you fear is to up sticks and leave. Trust me, you have no offence against dodgy police...
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Maybe Honesty is not the best policy?
It's too late to start lying to them about each other. I have been honest with all of them; they all know which cities I have other interests in. I have not however given them my full name in most cases., yet.
I cannot believe that a well written contract will not hold some weight in the courts there, but I could be mistaken, depending on if the family has connections and/or bribes the judge.
Maybe if I stay in a hotel and never let these friends into my room, that would help. But then, of course, I cannot sleep with any of them. Which is not all bad as these ladies are mostly friends at this point, not neccesarily women I am hot to trot with.
I will try to make it VERY clear that I have no intention of marrying certain friends to both them and their families. Maybe I will get rid of those who are only thinking of me as a permanent meal ticket/marriage.
I guess I have been naive about Filip. culture. But other than sneaking around and lying to everyone, I don't know how else to deal with shopping for the right woman. I am not against marriage, but I am very careful about vetting those that will make good long term marriage prospects and you cannot do that without spending time with many.
I have told all of them that I intend do visit more than one lady and then select from that. They have accepted that on the surface and continued to chat with me, but I don't think they have fully accepted it deep down-they are still hoping I will choose them. They have not shown any proclivity to pull some lame police or other aggressive action against me, but who knows what members of their family might do.
I guess this is rather selfish on my part, but how else do you sift through all the bad actors on DIA, etc in order to come up with someone you want something long term with?
[QUOTE=Tenchi]Contracts will mean nothing over there, especially for the foreign party.
You don't have to tell filipina A about filipina B, they'll never know unless you're careless with your cellphone or laptop around her. When I am chatting to two, and she's saying 'you busy?' implying who's the other girl, I just say I went to toilet or internets slow, a random 'is yahoo msg crashing on you?' comment adds to the believability
Don't give the impression you're the 'one-girl guy' from the start, and if you do but she still gets jealous and there are signs there might something sinister afoot, I would leave, seriously. Mind you, this has never happened to me, I usually end it before she gets ideas of meeting the parents and morning school runs... and with filipinas this starts 1 month into relationships I would say :o
The best defence in the situation you fear is to up sticks and leave. Trust me, you have no offence against dodgy police...[/QUOTE]
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Get real
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]It's too late to start lying to them about each other. I have been honest with all of them; they all know which cities I have other interests in. I have not however given them my full name in most cases., yet.
I cannot believe that a well written contract will not hold some weight in the courts there, but I could be mistaken, depending on if the family has connections and/or bribes the judge.
Maybe if I stay in a hotel and never let these friends into my room, that would help. But then, of course, I cannot sleep with any of them. Which is not all bad as these ladies are mostly friends at this point, not neccesarily women I am hot to trot with.
I will try to make it VERY clear that I have no intention of marrying certain friends to both them and their families. Maybe I will get rid of those who are only thinking of me as a permanent meal ticket/marriage.
I guess I have been naive about Filip. culture. But other than sneaking around and lying to everyone, I don't know how else to deal with shopping for the right woman. I am not against marriage, but I am very careful about vetting those that will make good long term marriage prospects and you cannot do that without spending time with many.
I have told all of them that I intend do visit more than one lady and then select from that. They have accepted that on the surface and continued to chat with me, but I don't think they have fully accepted it deep down-they are still hoping I will choose them. They have not shown any proclivity to pull some lame police or other aggressive action against me, but who knows what members of their family might do.
I guess this is rather selfish on my part, but how else do you sift through all the bad actors on DIA, etc in order to come up with someone you want something long term with?[/QUOTE]
The idea of relying on a legal contract in cases like this in the Philippines is laughable.
There are some girls who are (supposedly) saving their virginity for the man they are going to/will marry. Often this is just a BS story in the hope that you will take her more seriously , pay her more, give her an expensive gift etc. But I dare say in some cases it may be true, in which case you could end up upsetting the parents if you have been spinning some BS story just to get into her panties.
More generally the girls will be mature enough to know that most sensible guys will want to meet and "get to know" several girls before settling on a long term partner. Of course they will each be keen to make this set as exclusive as possible. Any sensible, non naive girl will also know that many western guys are merely using the possibly very remote chance that he may marry her as a carrot to get a higher quality girl/ lower cost / more enthusiastic performance than if he were being realistic with her. In some cases I think guys are being cynically duplicious, in others I suspect it's a matter of kidding himself as much as the girl.
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Next to impossible
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Seems they think that when I leave Filipina A to visit Filipina B that Filipina A and her family will do anything and everything to force me to marry her, including violence or having me deported as an "undesirable" character.[/QUOTE]Having you deported is little more than a threat. Its hard for locals to get the attention of (corrupt) immigration officials. Locals don't have money for bribes. Its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc). If it were the case of locals in the province having a foreign bf deported every time they got mad, there would be tens of thousands of these yearly, and we'd all stop going there. Relax.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Seems they have an exaggerated idea of what brings shame on their family and what expectations they should have from visiting foreigners.[/QUOTE]Its not necessarily exaggerated to them, especially if they are provincial girls. There is a cultural difference here. There is (or can be) a real danger for a young provincial girl to have her first foreign boyfriend show up, spend time, then leave, without talk of marriage or another visit geared towards marriage. Even if she doesn't have sex with you, if she goes to your hotel for even a few hours, she will be seen by folks in her town as sleeping with you. If she was known prior to your visit as a virgin, she will have lost that reputation on your departure. This represents a minority of girls. Most are glad to spend time with you, and are more than willing to sleep with you. But for some, yes, they see the purpose of your visit as to solidify the relationship with her and her family to marry.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Maybe having each Filipina sign a contract stating I am only visiting her and no promises of marriage have been made. Maybe I should record our chat sessions wherein I tell them there are no implied promises of marriage or my even staying with them beyond my short visit time.[/QUOTE]The contract, the recorded chat sessions, none of that will help. The contract may not be legally binding in the first place. Even if it was, it won't help. Its not that you are a foreigner and don't have rights (you do), but you have as few legal rights as citizens there (their legal rights are ignored also, just like yours will be). A girl having you sign a contract promising to marry her there would have the same legal recourse: not much.
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[quote=westcoast1]its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc).[/quote]there is a well publicised case of an american military guy called daniel smith who picked up a drunk girl in subic had sex with her and she filed a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge case for which he spent 3 years in jail.. the conniving woman, after she already left philippines and settled her whoring ass with some sugar daddy in usa, has admitted the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] allegations were a fabricated crock. so be careful what you do, deportation may be a blessing compared to that ordeal.
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/03/17/2009-03-17_filipino_who_accused_us_marine_daniel_sm-1.html[/url]
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[quote=fast buck artist]there is a well publicised case of an american military guy called daniel smith who picked up a drunk girl in subic had sex with her and she filed a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge case for which he spent 3 years in jail.. the conniving woman, after she already left philippines and settled her whoring ass with some sugar daddy in usa, has admitted the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] allegations were a fabricated crock. so be careful what you do, deportation may be a blessing compared to that ordeal.
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/03/17/2009-03-17_filipino_who_accused_us_marine_daniel_sm-1.html[/url][/quote]there is of course another version of the story, whereby the us government quietly waited 3 months till after the trial then speedily processed her us visa/residency application and thereafter she recanted her story once in possession of her papers as part of the deal.
no one hear knows what really happened. but whatever did, theres no disputing the fact that the sailor had sex in the back of the van with her, whilst his mates all watched then dumped her on the pavement so he wouldn't be late getting back to the ship.
really classy well bought up kid he was.
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Relaxing more now...
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[quote=westcoast1]having you deported is little more than a threat. its hard for locals to get the attention of (corrupt) immigration officials. locals don't have money for bribes. its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc). if it were the case of locals in the province having a foreign bf deported every time they got mad, there would be tens of thousands of these yearly, and we'd all stop going there. relax.
*ok, thanks for the info.
its not necessarily exaggerated to them, especially if they are provincial girls. there is a cultural difference here. there is (or can be) a real danger for a young provincial girl to have her first foreign boyfriend show up, spend time, then leave, without talk of marriage or another visit geared towards marriage. even if she doesn't have sex with you, if she goes to your hotel for even a few hours, she will be seen by folks in her town as sleeping with you. if she was known prior to your visit as a virgin, she will have lost that reputation on your departure. this represents a minority of girls. most are glad to spend time with you, and are more than willing to sleep with you. but for some, yes, they see the purpose of your visit as to solidify the relationship with her and her family to marry.
*guess i forgot to state they are all older, not chasing any virgins or similar.
the contract, the recorded chat sessions, none of that will help. the contract may not be legally binding in the first place. even if it was, it won't help. its not that you are a foreigner and don't have rights (you do), but you have as few legal rights as citizens there (their legal rights are ignored also, just like yours will be). a girl having you sign a contract promising to marry her there would have the same legal recourse: not much.[/quote]
*i think if a video tape of the lady showing that no promises were made and that any lies made by the family are not true might not be given weight by the authorities unless of course it were made public on the media, which is who i would send it too if false claims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] arose. i know i am being a bit paranoid, but be prepared is my motto.
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If you are that worried.....
[quote=turdycurdyone]reply inline below:
*i think if a video tape of the lady showing that no promises were made and that any lies made by the family are not true might not be given weight by the authorities unless of course it were made public on the media, which is who i would send it too if false claims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] arose. i know i am being a bit paranoid, but be prepared is my motto.[/quote]
best you avoid pi like the plague if you are as paranoid as this and lets more seasoned visitors like myself and those who live in pi handle the 'difficult' matter of virgins and pussy.
get a life and come to pi and have fun, if you worry about all these things even a massive v and c cocktail will not help you rise to the occasion :d
try thailand, cambodia, vietnam but clearly pi is not a place for someone who worries like you do...
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Elements of truth in your post...
You may be right. The Phil is a good country for exacerbating paranoia as there are so many bad things about the place. It's overpriced, highly corrupt with alot of scamming, hypocrisy and a disregard for poriners whose value only lasts as long as their money. Once you're money is gone, you're just an interloper who they would rather be rid of.
I once asked a smart Filipina why it is that Filipinos frequently elect someone with great enthusiasm and then turn around a few years later to riot and try to hang the same guy by his thumbs from the nearest utility pole. Her answer was that Filipinos only are loyal to you as long as your bringing home the bacon. Once that stops your just another bas*tard they need to get rid of.
Put your mind at ease Wicked Roger. No competition from me and I will not even impact your Viagra market as I don't need it. I rarely even chat with women under 35 years of age there. Perhaps I am stupid but I was hoping to find a good woman to marry there instead of arriving, blowing all my money on tourist pricing, booze, and sex with young girls only to have to return home to make money for my next trip as is the routine of most foreigners coming there.
I would rather be paranoid and cautious then wind up in a Phil. jail, have to pay bribes to pigs, or worse. In fact, those things usually happen to poriners who THINK they know the country and get too relaxed, usually under the influence of too much drink and their little heads doing all the thinking.
I will endeavor to put an end to this thread as the main purpose of this forum is trying to get laid without too much regard to long term consequences.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Best you avoid PI like the plague if you are as paranoid as this and lets more seasoned visitors like myself and those who live in PI handle the 'difficult' matter of virgins and pussy.
Get a life and come to PI and have fun, if you worry about all these things even a massive V and C cocktail will not help you rise to the occasion :D
Try Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam but clearly PI is not a place for someone who worries like you do...[/QUOTE]
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[quote=turdycurdyone]i would rather be paranoid and cautious then wind up in a phil. jail, have to pay bribes to pigs, or worse. in fact, those things usually happen to poriners who think they know the country and get too relaxed, usually under the influence of too much drink and their little heads doing all the thinking.[/quote]while such occurences are rare, i have known personally several foreigners who ended up in a filipino prison without much trial or due process, so taking some precautions is certainly a good idea.
you need a trustworthy lawyer or a friend familiar with filipino justice system who can come to your rescue if you get locked up. while you are inside your ability to help yourself is very limited so you will really need outside help. you should also have an emergency fund of 50,000 pesos put aside for bail/bribes/getting help.
and most importantly, dont stir up trouble.
- dont get caught with **** women or in a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] type situation
- dont get into fights, concealed weapons are common here, from flick knives to handguns
- dont get involved in politics, land disputes or any of the local squabbles for power
- avoid the police, and bribe them if they pick on you, for minor offenses 200 pesos should do, going up depending on the transgression committed
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]
Put your mind at ease Wicked Roger. No competition from me and I will not even impact your Viagra market as I don't need it. I rarely even chat with women under 35 years of age there.
instead of arriving, blowing all my money on tourist pricing, booze, and sex with young girls only to have to return home to make money for my next trip as is the routine of most foreigners coming there.
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TC
That is exactly what I do :)....blow my cash but not on booze just cuties and then return home and do it all again as soon as possible :D Good that you go the over 35s as leaves the young cuties to me and others ....yummy
Marrying and finding a wife....lots of chatter on this but take your time, enjoy the variety beofre you chose...try and make sure she is kinky, not jealous, likes to be naughty etc ...well that is my advice :) Many ignore it for some reason :(
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This trip has made me even more convinced that if some guy wants to get married, the PI is the place to find a wife. I have never seen so many girls groomed to get married to anything as long as the utang is sent every month. For someone who doesn't care much about intellectual conversation, but is happy having a cutie who lives to do housework and have kids, this is the place to find the perfect wife. I used to think that Peruvian chicas would make the best wives, but the Pinays have them beat, IMHO.
Not that I'm considering getting married, but I don't live in sex prison U.S.A. either.
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Check out miss fem20 on DIA, sounds like one for you pervs
Hug me I'll show you happy on bed
I'm naughty
I want to meet a Male
With age from 20 to 50
And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
I want hard all time
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I never go over 22 normally, but I'll be damned if I did not have myself both a 28 year old and a 30 year old this trip. Both upper class with their own car, etc. Nice to have an intellectual exchange, but not to be confused with being better than the defloration of a tight 19 year old. Just different. These older girls in general seem more open to experimenting with getting cum shot up their ass as well as their fanny.
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[QUOTE=Barba]I never go over 22 normally, but I'll be damned if I did not have myself both a 28 year old and a 30 year old this trip. Both upper class with their own car, etc. Nice to have an intellectual exchange, but not to be confused with being better than the defloration of a tight 19 year old. Just different. These older girls in general seem more open to experimenting with getting cum shot up their ass as well as their fanny.[/QUOTE]
Barba
I just stick witt the first sentence and never have trouble getting the girls to experiment...must be the way I smile at them :D Or the fact I look harmless and conservative when we meet ;) Unlike a few monger I know......
Sorry we missed each other hopefully soon we will have the same schedules
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One for the wimps amongst us?
Well she sounds very agressive on DIA, maybe her profile is too well written so read it carefully as some are written by the boyfriend/toerag/a**hole etc depending on the relationship
Maybe a tad chubby for some of you wimps out there (Bopalula springs to mind?) but if you are submissive then I doubt you care :D
hot_openminded_woman is the ID
Let us all know if you sample......;)
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Hot Openminded Woman
I came across her profile back in May.
At that time she was saying that she was up for everything.
So, people change, maybe she has discovered her true self.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]You may be right. The Phil is a good country for exacerbating paranoia as there are so many bad things about the place. It's overpriced, highly corrupt with alot of scamming, hypocrisy and a disregard for poriners whose value only lasts as long as their money. Once you're money is gone, you're just an interloper who they would rather be rid of. [/QUOTE]
There's a lot of wisdom in this post, and guys who really don't know the country should pay attention to it. As I've said in a prior post, some people (mostly newbies) think, after a few days in country that they "understand" the place, cause most people speak at least a little English, and in some respects in can appear Westernized. The fact is, the Westernization facade is quite shallow, and the country is just as opaque as other SE Asian countries.
It's easy to land in jail here, and it's easy to fall for scams, which is why it's wise never to call any attention to yourself and never to act on pure impulse.
It's not really so much that they "would rather be rid of" us. It's that, at a certain stratum of society, they will seize any opportunity to extort money from anyone...Filipino and foreigner alike. It's a very poor country with lots of desperate people and thoroughly corrupt officials.
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vaejme from Maasin City
Just looking a friend , , , ";)
Unselfish, thoughtful and kind
Honest, faithful and trustworthy
Patient, sincere and forgiving
Modest, pure and chaste
Compassionate, caring and giving
Understanding, humble and secure.
A Real Woman...
Understands chastity
Values her sexuality
Appreciates her fertility
Controls her passions and desires
Never uses other people.
THAT'S ME!!!
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Women and their dreams of prince charmings
While reading dating profiles I am stupefied how many demands women have from their "dream man", women who truth be told should be thankful for ANY man to write them a message, but they demand the sun the moon and the holy mountains... read this particular piece of work as an example...
I want to meet a Male
with age from 29 to 44
Someone who is ambitious and independent. I like friends who's confident and is able to communicate well. Sharing some similiar hobbies would be great.
And The man I am looking for should be intelligent, attractive, fun loving, caring, honest, open, willing to try anything at least once and willing to give it his all to everything he does. He should have an outer beauty that catches my eye, however he should have an inner beauty that takes my breath away everytime I look into his eyes. I want to be able to kiss his soft beautiful lips and make his eyes roll into the back of his head and melt in my arms. I want to smell his perfume all day on my dress shirt after receiving a morning hug before leaving the house for work - making me smile and distracting me from the daily grind. I want to laugh for hours, joke and tease one another, and just be silly with him. He definitely has to have a great personality and be easy to talk to.
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The author? An overweight 31 year old muslim separated single mum who smokes.
Get real for fucks sake, ladies
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As its been spoke about many times on this board the girls usualy dont know what to write on their online profile so they just copy from somewhere else. I never even read the specifics on the profiles and just look at the pic, location and age. I figure out the rest later if I ever chat with them.
Btw thats a pretty big age gap she left between 29 and 44. Damn I got back to the States and signed up for a well known dating site and the average looking women that are upper 30's, divorced with two kids are looking for a man only a few years older than them and have so many requests.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]While reading dating profiles I am stupefied how many demands women have from their "dream man", women who truth be told should be thankful for ANY man to write them a message, but they demand the sun the moon and the holy mountains... read this particular piece of work as an example...
I want to meet a Male
with age from 29 to 44
Someone who is ambitious and independent. I like friends who's confident and is able to communicate well. Sharing some similiar hobbies would be great.
And The man I am looking for should be intelligent, attractive, fun loving, caring, honest, open, willing to try anything at least once and willing to give it his all to everything he does. He should have an outer beauty that catches my eye, however he should have an inner beauty that takes my breath away everytime I look into his eyes. I want to be able to kiss his soft beautiful lips and make his eyes roll into the back of his head and melt in my arms. I want to smell his perfume all day on my dress shirt after receiving a morning hug before leaving the house for work - making me smile and distracting me from the daily grind. I want to laugh for hours, joke and tease one another, and just be silly with him. He definitely has to have a great personality and be easy to talk to.
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The author? An overweight 31 year old muslim separated single mum who smokes.
Get real for fucks sake, ladies[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]Just looking a friend , , , ";)
Unselfish, thoughtful and kind
Honest, faithful and trustworthy
Patient, sincere and forgiving
Modest, pure and chaste
Compassionate, caring and giving
Understanding, humble and secure.
A Real Woman...
Understands chastity
Values her sexuality
Appreciates her fertility
Controls her passions and desires
Never uses other people.
THAT'S ME!!![/QUOTE]
Many have a little bit of spoken English, most have very little written English.
Most of this stuff is cut & pasted by a bakla cousin from some other dating site.
AV
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Btw thats a pretty big age gap she left between 29 and 44. Damn I got back to the States and signed up for a well known dating site and the average looking women that are upper 30's, divorced with two kids are looking for a man only a few years older than them and have so many requests.[/QUOTE]I dont know how many men exist in this world who are truly "intelligent, attractive, fun loving, caring, honest, ambitious, independent and able to communicate well".. I would estimate maybe 1 out of 50 .. and 1 out of 100 on a dating site?? And do these ladies really think such a rare specimen, who no doubt has MANY women to choose from, would go for a 30+ separated mum with 2 kids, 70kgs of goodness on a 5'5 frame, bad habits and bad baggage from ex-husband??
How do these ladies get so out of touch with reality? Is it all the romance pocketbooks they read or what?
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]While reading dating profiles I am stupefied how many demands women have from their "dream man", women who truth be told should be thankful for ANY man to write them a message, but they demand the sun the moon and the holy mountains... read this particular piece of work as an example...
I want to meet a Male
with age from 29 to 44
Someone who is ambitious and independent. I like friends who's confident and is able to communicate well. Sharing some similiar hobbies would be great.
And The man I am looking for should be intelligent, attractive, fun loving, caring, honest, open, willing to try anything at least once and willing to give it his all to everything he does. He should have an outer beauty that catches my eye, however he should have an inner beauty that takes my breath away everytime I look into his eyes. I want to be able to kiss his soft beautiful lips and make his eyes roll into the back of his head and melt in my arms. I want to smell his perfume all day on my dress shirt after receiving a morning hug before leaving the house for work - making me smile and distracting me from the daily grind. I want to laugh for hours, joke and tease one another, and just be silly with him. He definitely has to have a great personality and be easy to talk to.
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The author? An overweight 31 year old muslim separated single mum who smokes.
Get real for fucks sake, ladies[/QUOTE]
Hm it's a better profile than other though, let's be honest... 99% of these profiles are a variation of
simple
badminton
accept me for who I am
secret
So at least that one actually wrote something different haha..^_^
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]How do these ladies get so out of touch with reality? Is it all the romance pocketbooks they read or what?[/QUOTE]I think you successfully answered your own question!. Yes its pocketbooks, its rumour, its gossip "(I have a friend who has a friend who married an Aussie/Brit/American guy etc). And their heads are filled with it.
I often tell overweight ladies who send me messages that my preference is for under 50kg. They often reply, with some banality succh as " Ok I won't have rice today ". They're all just waiting for the Knight in Shining Armour. Who won't be going to there place any time soon. LOL
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]How do these ladies get so out of touch with reality? Is it all the romance pocketbooks they read or what?[/QUOTE]Ever heard of the saying "God Grants your wishes? " Not to be offensive to the religion, but 99% of the filipinas believe it. Even to the extent of. Like when I ask girls I meet in the bar in Singapore. "What are you planning to do in Singapore? "
Answer: "find a nice guy and marry. And be happy. "
And they not just say it, but 100% believe it. Never for a moment doubting that the sweet talkers in bars are only out for a fuck and nothing more.
And one girl I met said it was her dream to visit a castle. Like in the Tagaytay. But a real one. I stopped analysing the rationale.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Tenchi]Hm it's a better profile than other though, let's be honest... 99% of these profiles are a variation of
simple
badminton
accept me for who I am
secret
So at least that one actually wrote something different haha..^_^[/QUOTE]Haha good point.
Also god fearing and singing.
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Best Name Ever ?
Guys,
I just got a message on DIA. 'One for the books.'
Her name: BOOBSYBOOM69
Think I should check her out?
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Because you are not doing the girl a favor in the long run.
Every time you send money, these girls develop an expectation of easy cash. Why should she bust her ass getting a second job or pursuing a degree when she can just "work" the internet cafes trolling dopes for money?
And every time she succeeds, she tells 10 friends. Each then tell 10 more. Pretty soon, you have an entire country of girls expecting to make money the easy way.
What happens when nobody wires anymore because she's no longer cute and young? Your money discouraged her from preparing for a future. So ultimately, your money harmed her.[/QUOTE]Actually this sounds like many girls I know who got hooked in to prostitution and stripping in the US. The SMART ones used that money to continue getting an education. The stupid ones kept thinking that it was cash that was always going to be around.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]This is one reason why the Philippines is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. The entire country is one big welfare basket case because it's filled with lazy incompetant people out for the short term.[/QUOTE]Actually, from what I've seen. It not just that the GIRLS are lazy, they actually work pretty hard. Its the GUYS that are lazy. From what I've managed to see from their culture, the women's job it to make sure the house is nice and clean and keep the husband happy. SUPPOSEDLY the men are supposed to go out and get a job, but for some reason if he cannot make money. It then falls to the OLDEST DAUGHTER (that doesn't have a baby) to make money. The SONS are supposed to sit around, and try to find a wife to have sex and marry. Many times, its the Father, and Sons that are sitting around gambling and trying to make quick money, while the daughters and wives are trying to keep the house and home fed.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Ultimately, it's a personal choice to donate money.
People who wire money to the Philippines should fully understand and accept the fact that 1) they're buying a girl's attention and 2) they're providing down payment for future sex. If those are your expectations, hey, by all means send the money.
But I have a feeling most guys who give are hoping to start a relationship. For these types of guys, they are a fool to part with even a penny.[/QUOTE]I'd say be careful about sending money. Sometimes, its just a nice charity, other times its a nice down payment to a good time, but sometimes you have to realize that it can mean much more than that.
After checking with a friend who has a Filipino Wife that was a 'ex-camgirl'. I just realized that in some way I did a 'traditional' Filipino Courtship. Ones that the girls in the Philippines would LOVE for ANY GUY to do with them. Note that this MIGHT help you get down some girls' pants, but realize you'll probably have to much invested in the girl, that you'd better at least treat them as your GF, or even more. Potential wife. And if you just have sex with her and leave her, you probably want to stay away from that part of the Philippines.
First stupid thing I did was send a small 'nice gift' for the family and her. Sent the family one of those 'Camp Showers' things that warms up the water all day, and you can use it to take a bath? I figured, it was cheap and on sale, and was a nice gift ($15). While I was at it I sent the girl a stuffed animal and a bit of chocolate (heard they LOVE it, and mine likes Toberlone so I sent some.) NOW, I find out what I actually did could be considered 'Pasalubong' when a guy asks for permission to either ask a girl out, or 'court her'. He is supposed to do this to 'break the ice'. A gift for her 'family', and something special 'for her'.
Second stupid thing was I 'gave her an allowance'. I found out that most girls would be happy with 2, 000php and at the most 6, 000php is what many of the poorer girls would want. (Any girl asking for more, either has a HUGE family to take care of, or is ripping you off.) I sent her a 'monthly allowance' of 2, 000php for about 3 months. I now found out this is almost the same as 'Paninilbihan', The guy who likes a girl, has to come over and help the family at home as often as possible. Once again, due to distance, my regular 'donations' they are taking it this way. THIS is what some FAMILIES might take your 'regular donations as'. More often than naught, a girl sends most of the money to their families. Some of the weird things like (roof blew off of house today) ACTUALLY do happen
Third and FINAL (and I warn you use this information at your own peril) is to SING to her. If a girl asks you to sing to her, she might be 'on the edge of falling for you'. Not knowing better, and trying to keep her 'happy'. I sang to her once when she was in a cafe, and another when she was with her family. Didn't think it was crocodile tears when she's breaking down and crying. THIS was what made me think WTF did I do to make her cry? After checking with my friend, this is known as 'Haruna' where the guy sings to the girl his love. At this point, almost ALL GIRLS fall in love with you at this point. Once you've sung to them, Its almost like putting on an engagement ring.
Only remaining step is for me to propose to her, and marry her. I'd also like to warn guys, that while this is a bit 'much' for some girls. Doing this, pretty much cements them into thinking you want to marry them, and makes her family believe it also. These girls may also will play 'hard to get' while this happens. Also, don't expect to get 'lucky' with the girl if she's a virgin. By then, she's waiting for the wedding night. You could try and have sex and leave her, but like I said you better stay away from that part of Philippines for a while. Filipinos have HUGE families.
Initially, I thought I was being nice and prepping for a 'nice time' in Philippines, now I found out that I actually COURTED one girl. If she or her family catches me with another girl, I'm probably going to be in trouble. Its a good thing I only went this far with ONE girl. I started to be aware and started to treat other girls with less 'attention' like crazy. (It does help that she is cute, sexy, and very attractive. Which was why I was willing to go this far for her.)
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courtship
Interesting story DT. If you don't mind, how did you meet the girl and (roughly) which part of the Philippines does she reside in?
X
[QUOTE=DT Looker]SNIP
I'd say be careful about sending money. Sometimes, its just a nice charity, other times its a nice down payment to a good time, but sometimes you have to realize that it can mean much more than that.
After checking with a friend who has a Filipino Wife that was a 'ex-camgirl'. I just realized that in some way I did a 'traditional' Filipino Courtship. Ones that the girls in the Philippines would LOVE for ANY GUY to do with them. Note that this MIGHT help you get down some girls' pants, but realize you'll probably have to much invested in the girl, that you'd better at least treat them as your GF, or even more. Potential wife. And if you just have sex with her and leave her, you probably want to stay away from that part of the Philippines.
First stupid thing I did was send a small 'nice gift' for the family and her. Sent the family one of those 'Camp Showers' things that warms up the water all day, and you can use it to take a bath? I figured, it was cheap and on sale, and was a nice gift ($15). While I was at it I sent the girl a stuffed animal and a bit of chocolate (heard they LOVE it, and mine likes Toberlone so I sent some.) NOW, I find out what I actually did could be considered 'Pasalubong' when a guy asks for permission to either ask a girl out, or 'court her'. He is supposed to do this to 'break the ice'. A gift for her 'family', and something special 'for her'.
Second stupid thing was I 'gave her an allowance'. I found out that most girls would be happy with 2, 000php and at the most 6, 000php is what many of the poorer girls would want. (Any girl asking for more, either has a HUGE family to take care of, or is ripping you off.) I sent her a 'monthly allowance' of 2, 000php for about 3 months. I now found out this is almost the same as 'Paninilbihan', The guy who likes a girl, has to come over and help the family at home as often as possible. Once again, due to distance, my regular 'donations' they are taking it this way. THIS is what some FAMILIES might take your 'regular donations as'. More often than naught, a girl sends most of the money to their families. Some of the weird things like (roof blew off of house today) ACTUALLY do happen
Third and FINAL (and I warn you use this information at your own peril) is to SING to her. If a girl asks you to sing to her, she might be 'on the edge of falling for you'. Not knowing better, and trying to keep her 'happy'. I sang to her once when she was in a cafe, and another when she was with her family. Didn't think it was crocodile tears when she's breaking down and crying. THIS was what made me think WTF did I do to make her cry? After checking with my friend, this is known as 'Haruna' where the guy sings to the girl his love. At this point, almost ALL GIRLS fall in love with you at this point. Once you've sung to them, Its almost like putting on an engagement ring.
Only remaining step is for me to propose to her, and marry her. I'd also like to warn guys, that while this is a bit 'much' for some girls. Doing this, pretty much cements them into thinking you want to marry them, and makes her family believe it also. These girls may also will play 'hard to get' while this happens. Also, don't expect to get 'lucky' with the girl if she's a virgin. By then, she's waiting for the wedding night. You could try and have sex and leave her, but like I said you better stay away from that part of Philippines for a while. Filipinos have HUGE families.
Initially, I thought I was being nice and prepping for a 'nice time' in Philippines, now I found out that I actually COURTED one girl. If she or her family catches me with another girl, I'm probably going to be in trouble. Its a good thing I only went this far with ONE girl. I started to be aware and started to treat other girls with less 'attention' like crazy. (It does help that she is cute, sexy, and very attractive. Which was why I was willing to go this far for her.)[/QUOTE]
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Chat Names
Here's another sweet, innocent girl to introduce to Mom.
Fuckgirl
19 years old from Talisay.
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Kudos, D T Looker. Great Stuff!
Hats off to you, DT, for a great, detailed report that contained lots of invaluable insights into cultural differences and perceptions.
I have frequently shown my appreciation, upon parting from a girl that I've taken away for a few days, in a similar manner.
Stopped at the super market and loaded up on stuff for her to take home.
I never thought that this might be misread as a serious commitment
On my part. Now, I'm feeling guilty that I may have, inadvertently,
Put the girl in an awkward position with her family's expectations of lots more to come.
Look forward to many more reports from you in the future.
Your report definitely belongs in The Reports of Distinction.
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[QUOTE=DT Looker]Actually, from what I've seen. It not just that the GIRLS are lazy, they actually work pretty hard. Its the GUYS that are lazy. From what I've managed to see from their culture, the women's job it to make sure the house is nice and clean and keep the husband happy. SUPPOSEDLY the men are supposed to go out and get a job, but for some reason if he cannot make money. It then falls to the OLDEST DAUGHTER (that doesn't have a baby) to make money. The SONS are supposed to sit around, and try to find a wife to have sex and marry. Many times, its the Father, and Sons that are sitting around gambling and trying to make quick money.
)[/QUOTE]I would totally agree with you. Drive round any barangay and the guys are sitting from daybreak till dusk at the corner store etc dooing nothing.
Saddest stories I heard were from maids in HK who sent all their hard earned salaries (12-14 hours a day, 6 days a week) back to their sit-around husbands, and then they found out on annual trip home that the lazy bastards had spent it all on beer, girls, cock fights etc.
The Wives/Maids grew smart after year one, and then never sent money to their husbands, and were much less faithful thereafter with lucky fellows like me being the recipients LOL.
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Generosity Doesn't Pay
D T Looker,
You are so right -sending money does tend to backfire on you. Your attempts to help almost always create greater expectations and greater dependency. I found this out the hard way.
By the way, a serenade is a "harana." But you're right --leave the marriage expenses to the marrying saps out there.
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Ms Babrbie Panoncia of Antipolo on DIA makes an interesting statement
"kyla
im looking to be my hasbond "
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I'm assuming she wants to marry herself?
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[QUOTE=X Man]Interesting story DT. If you don't mind, how did you meet the girl and (roughly) which part of the Philippines does she reside in?
X[/QUOTE]
X - I am interested in the reasoning behind your question.
Do you think it matters where she (roughly) comes from?
My experience has been that no matter which particular group a girl comes from (Ilokana, Cebuana, Tagalog, Waray, Ilonggo..), they all show this remarkable ability to transfer any simple act of kindness, no matter how small or trivial, into a "Now I love you and I hope you love me too" sort of response.
Your question implies that you think there may be differences??
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[QUOTE=Questor55]Hats off to you, DT, for a great, detailed report that contained lots of invaluable insights into cultural differences and perceptions.
I have frequently shown my appreciation, upon parting from a girl that I've taken away for a few days, in a similar manner.
Stopped at the super market and loaded up on stuff for her to take home.
I never thought that this might be misread as a serious commitment
On my part. Now, I'm feeling guilty that I may have, inadvertently,
Put the girl in an awkward position with her family's expectations of lots more to come.
Look forward to many more reports from you in the future.
Your report definitely belongs in The Reports of Distinction.[/QUOTE]
haha... yep, pasalubong, which means if you want to be accepted by the family you must show your face to them bearing gifts. It's actually said in the Phils that courting a filipina means courting the family as well :o Just be careful this doesnt lead to pamamanhikan which means marriage dates!!!!
Also, about harana, which is basically serenading, think singing to their bedroom window... this is only a rural provincial thing. I once asked a girl from Manila if she would like me to do this, and she said it was only done in the provinces, suffice to say I was relieved!!!! so guys there's no need for second thoughts when she asks you to take her to karaoke, you'll be fine :p haha
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Dt Looker,
You need to educate not only her but also her family. This mix of medieval principles of courtship, gold digger expectations and pink Barbie romantics is easily avoided if you tell her "I ONLY want to be your very special friend. Yea sure I will help you out but only as a friend". You will get to fuck her anyway. I have been in similar situations many times. I have a ring on my finger so it is pretty obvious that I am "just a friend" but as long as the family see another easy peso around the corner they will not bother you. In fact they will be pretty flexible to any twist and turn in your relationship with this girl, since she is just one out of 200 cousins and any foreigner in the family is a good foreigner, no matter what.
There is this this exotication about the dangers of Philippino families, just like there are of most other parts of the world. These are often a result of
A) peoples eagerness to profile themselves by telling other about various dangers that they know about and can handle (compare to hunting stories dangerous fishes caught, or whatever men use as penis enlargement), and
B) a need to create some excitements by exaggerating the real world slightly.
Security is a trade commodity. If you have nothing to trade, you will be insecure. Your object of trade can be future happiness, future cash, their safety, etc. The more shit you throw on someone's pride, the more you should be prepared to pay. All humans have a price, and I am often surprised to read that a poor fisherman's family scare the shit out of a financially secure world traveller.
I used to have one gf with a high ranking politician as grandmother. Both her body guards had more than two confirmed kills and would charge 4500 peso to take someone out. And then one have to add the negotiation with the surviving family, which by far will be the expensive part. This lola did not approve of me at all, but I am still here. I know all cousins and uncles, and meet them regularly. Army men and other hard core guys, but never the less the general fear that I might know someone even heavier is always there for them. These guys are just as phlegmatic when it comes to killing someone or beating them up, as they are to work, so the fact that I actually like to get pissed with them every once in a while is maybe alone a reason to keep smiling at me. It is notable that I am always respectful, smiling and social to all people. I never fuck people over (in a symbolic sense at least) and I never hide my opinions or the truth about me or my intentions with the girl. Sure Philippines is unsafe and poor, but to say that a Catholic Christian family is more disposed to family shamed invoked violence here than in say Spain or Colombia is just like when young boys compares whos daddy is strongest. The violence is random/provoked in the moment or invoked by a criminal scheme to gain assets.
So my point is; do all the singing and stuff, but be clear about YOUR expectations on HER. SHE should impress you and deserve YOUR money. Do not let the woman run you. Do not let her family run you. Remember who is paying the party. They know that you can snap your fingers and have 100 other cute girls on your lap. No need to emulate how rich pinoys treat women, but there is something to learn from studying how men behave towards females outside pussy runed US or Europe. We need to grow our balls back perhaps?
Barba
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[QUOTE=Barba]Dt Looker,
You need to educate not only her but also her family. This mix of medieval principles of courtship, gold digger expectations and pink Barbie romantics is easily avoided if you tell her "I ONLY want to be your very special friend. Yea sure I will help you out but only as a friend". You will get to fuck her anyway. I have been in similar situations many times. I have a ring on my finger so it is pretty obvious that I am "just a friend" but as long as the family see another easy peso around the corner they will not bother you. In fact they will be pretty flexible to any twist and turn in your relationship with this girl, since she is just one out of 200 cousins and any foreigner in the family is a good foreigner, no matter what.
There is this this exotication about the dangers of Philippino families, just like there are of most other parts of the world. These are often a result of
A) peoples eagerness to profile themselves by telling other about various dangers that they know about and can handle (compare to hunting stories dangerous fishes caught, or whatever men use as penis enlargement), and
B) a need to create some excitements by exaggerating the real world slightly.
Security is a trade commodity. If you have nothing to trade, you will be insecure. Your object of trade can be future happiness, future cash, their safety, etc. The more shit you throw on someone's pride, the more you should be prepared to pay. All humans have a price, and I am often surprised to read that a poor fisherman's family scare the shit out of a financially secure world traveller.
I used to have one gf with a high ranking politician as grandmother. Both her body guards had more than two confirmed kills and would charge 4500 peso to take someone out. And then one have to add the negotiation with the surviving family, which by far will be the expensive part. This lola did not approve of me at all, but I am still here. I know all cousins and uncles, and meet them regularly. Army men and other hard core guys, but never the less the general fear that I might know someone even heavier is always there for them. These guys are just as phlegmatic when it comes to killing someone or beating them up, as they are to work, so the fact that I actually like to get pissed with them every once in a while is maybe alone a reason to keep smiling at me. It is notable that I am always respectful, smiling and social to all people. I never fuck people over (in a symbolic sense at least) and I never hide my opinions or the truth about me or my intentions with the girl. Sure Philippines is unsafe and poor, but to say that a Catholic Christian family is more disposed to family shamed invoked violence here than in say Spain or Colombia is just like when young boys compares whos daddy is strongest. The violence is random/provoked in the moment or invoked by a criminal scheme to gain assets.
So my point is; do all the singing and stuff, but be clear about YOUR expectations on HER. SHE should impress you and deserve YOUR money. Do not let the woman run you. Do not let her family run you. Remember who is paying the party. They know that you can snap your fingers and have 100 other cute girls on your lap. No need to emulate how rich pinoys treat women, but there is something to learn from studying how men behave towards females outside pussy runed US or Europe. We need to grow our balls back perhaps?
Barba[/QUOTE]Barba,
Great insights and advice. I agree especially with your comment that "..you can snap your fingers and have 100 other cute girls in your lap." I think too many of us (myself included) sometimes use sex-starved us/eu thinking here, when we must realize we are playing in a much different arena here.
Boys, the fish are biting here big time. If you don't like what you caught, throw it back, and bait up your hook and cast again. There are lots of great fish out there (fishing metaphor for Mr. Barba's benefit).
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[QUOTE=Barba]You need to educate not only her but also her family. This mix of medieval principles of courtship, gold digger expectations and pink Barbie romantics is easily avoided if you tell her "I ONLY want to be your very special friend. Yea sure I will help you out but only as a friend". You will get to fuck her anyway. I have been in similar situations many times. I have a ring on my finger so it is pretty obvious that I am "just a friend" but as long as the family see another easy peso around the corner they will not bother you. In fact they will be pretty flexible to any twist and turn in your relationship with this girl, since she is just one out of 200 cousins and any foreigner in the family is a good foreigner, no matter what.
Barba[/QUOTE]I agree with you entirely. I have one girl who stays with me on night one of all my Manila trips. Before I see her I have to call the Mom and ask if her precious daughter can stay with me overnight. The girl is a sweet young student but the mum always reminds me I should provide a pasulobong. I give the girl something, she gives it to the mum, I'm happy, Mum happy, and girl happy. No one has said anything about this being a payment but we all know the score.
Perfect arrangement.
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Your assumptions are incorrect. It was a good story and I was curious about how and where it transpired. X
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]X - I am interested in the reasoning behind your question.
Do you think it matters where she (roughly) comes from?
My experience has been that no matter which particular group a girl comes from (Ilokana, Cebuana, Tagalog, Waray, Ilonggo..), they all show this remarkable ability to transfer any simple act of kindness, no matter how small or trivial, into a "Now I love you and I hope you love me too" sort of response.
Your question implies that you think there may be differences??[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I agree with you entirely. I have one girl who stays with me on night one of all my Manila trips. Before I see her I have to call the Mom and ask if her precious daughter can stay with me overnight. The girl is a sweet young student but the mum always reminds me I should provide a pasulobong. I give the girl something, she gives it to the mum, I'm happy, Mum happy, and girl happy. No one has said anything about this being a payment but we all know the score.
Perfect arrangement.[/QUOTE]
I love this arrangement Freebie.
I am waiting for the day when you tell us that she said she needs to leave now because Dad is waiting outside to drive her home LOL
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I love this arrangement Freebie.
I am waiting for the day when you tell us that she said she needs to leave now because Dad is waiting outside to drive her home LOL[/QUOTE]Dad ran away with a lady about 8 weeks ago. Hence the fact the family may be relying on gifts even more than ever.
But sure, Dad beeping his horn to pick up his well stuffed daughter would have been an interesting sight. LOL
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We're Glad To Be Of Assistance
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I agree with you entirely. I have one girl who stays with me on night one of all my Manila trips. Before I see her I have to call the Mom and ask if her precious daughter can stay with me overnight. The girl is a sweet young student but the mum always reminds me I should provide a pasulobong. I give the girl something, she gives it to the mum, I'm happy, Mum happy, and girl happy. No one has said anything about this being a payment but we all know the score.
Perfect arrangement.[/QUOTE]Great story. I have an similar arrangement at the school where I work.
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"Man who will love me for who and what I am"
Does anyone have an insight into this particular piece of romance pocketbook wisdom? I read it in every single dating profile.. is it a nice way of saying "I am not gonna change my bad habits like smoking and awful singing for your sake"?
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[QUOTE=X Man]Your assumptions are incorrect. It was a good story and I was curious about how and where it transpired. X[/QUOTE]
That's cool.
My question to you was very innocuous and genuinely seeking your impressions about whether there is a discernible difference between the way different groups behave.
My feeling is that it makes NO DIFFERENCE. You cannot pick where a girl comes from because of her initial behavior.
Having lived continuously here for almost 14 years, I can say that in general terms Ilokanas as a group seem to be different in that they are more industrious and tend to value hard-earned cash more.
However, once horizontal they are pretty much the same as all the others LOL