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Another chat interlude from a DIA special
This exchange was part of a chat I had with a girl on DIA earlier today.
We shared YM addresses and this ensued.
It shows more evidence that what you read in profiles is not always "The Truth"
me (10/19/2010 7:01:56 PM): you are not really 65 kgs are you?
me (10/19/2010 7:02:07 PM): if you are only 5ft 2 ins
her (10/19/2010 7:02:13 PM): what u think
her (10/19/2010 7:02:22 PM): tell me
me (10/19/2010 7:02:24 PM): are you chubby? Taba?
her (10/19/2010 7:02:29 PM): not really
me (10/19/2010 7:02:30 PM): you dont look it I see the foto
her (10/19/2010 7:02:35 PM): oki
me (10/19/2010 7:02:50 PM): 65 kgs means you are quite big if you are only 5ft 2 ins
her (10/19/2010 7:03:02 PM): im not?big
me (10/19/2010 7:03:07 PM): I can see that
me (10/19/2010 7:03:16 PM): so why you put 65 kgs?
her (10/19/2010 7:03:16 PM): yes
her (10/19/2010 7:03:21 PM): i didnt
me (10/19/2010 7:03:29 PM): in your profile it says that
her (10/19/2010 7:03:36 PM): thats not my profile
me (10/19/2010 7:03:39 PM): it says 5ft 2 ins and 65 kgs
her (10/19/2010 7:03:46 PM): i use that coz my porfile is close
her (10/19/2010 7:03:57 PM): so i use profile of my friend
me (10/19/2010 7:04:02 PM): whaaat? so the foto
me (10/19/2010 7:04:11 PM): is that you or ur fren?
her (10/19/2010 7:04:18 PM): yeah its me
her (10/19/2010 7:04:20 PM): i know
me(10/19/2010 7:04:51 PM): now you know why i asked if your profile was yours. crazy
her (10/19/2010 7:05:00 PM): i know dont worry ia snwer u the truth
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Dad ran away with a lady about 8 weeks ago. Hence the fact the family may be relying on gifts even more than ever.
But sure, Dad beeping his horn to pick up his well stuffed daughter would have been an interesting sight. LOL[/QUOTE]
And you are now a 'father figure' :eek:.......I just can imagine what sort of 'fatherly' things you will guide and teach her about.....:D Hopefully it includes threesomes and moresomes with your very shy and god fearing friends.;)
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]And you are now a 'father figure' :eek:.......I just can imagine what sort of 'fatherly' things you will guide and teach her about.....:D Hopefully it includes threesomes and moresomes with your very shy and god fearing friends.;)[/QUOTE]she's already given up the Holy Passage. So the next one is inviting her college friends.. And yes, we are working on getting some of her friends over, getting some vodka down them and getting some play time. LOL
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I Luv Bedmenton And Vollyball
These statements appear regularly on dating profiles, as we all know. In all my travels throughout this country, I have NEVER seen any of 'our girls' engaged in these activities. I'm beginning to think that these words are actually CODE WORDS for other less conservative activities. As in, "I will love to volleyball you, Honey. Then we can badminton with my best girlfriend. ".
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I actually saw some makeshift badminton courts in a parking lot in Manila when driving by in a taxi. I did not see any young hotties on the court.
[QUOTE=Questor55]These statements appear regularly on dating profiles, as we all know. In all my travels throughout this country, I have NEVER seen any of 'our girls' engaged in these activities. I'm beginning to think that these words are actually CODE WORDS for other less conservative activities. As in, "I will love to volleyball you, Honey. Then we can badminton with my best girlfriend. ".[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]she's already given up the Holy Passage. So the next one is inviting her college friends.. And yes, we are working on getting some of her friends over, getting some vodka down them and getting some play time. LOL[/QUOTE]
Disgraceful behaviour FF and one I thoroughly approve of :D But remember the Kinky Twin need to be around for more 'advanced' education :p...well they are college girls and I do have a degree...
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"Man who will love me for who and what I am"
Does anyone have an insight into this particular piece of romance pocketbook wisdom? I read it in every single dating profile.. is it a nice way of saying "I am not gonna change my bad habits like smoking and awful singing for your sake"?[/QUOTE]
For a lot of ladies, it simply means they have lost their virginity.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]And you are now a 'father figure' :eek:.......I just can imagine what sort of 'fatherly' things you will guide and teach her about.....:D Hopefully it includes threesomes and moresomes with your very shy and god fearing friends.;)[/QUOTE]What an awesome response. I am going to be laughing all day.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]
It shows more evidence that what you read in profiles is not always "The Truth"
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Oh really? You mean people actually lie on their online dating advert?
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy]For a lot of ladies, it simply means they have lost their virginity.[/QUOTE]It's just a space filler. They ahve little written english & utterly empty lives.
AV
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[QUOTE=Questor55]These statements appear regularly on dating profiles, as we all know. In all my travels throughout this country, I have NEVER seen any of 'our girls' engaged in these activities. ".[/QUOTE]I've played badminton here in a university gym and volleyball at a beach resort. The girls play badminton and volleyball in high school PhysEd class.. basketball for boys.
The only "sport" they regularly engage in outside of school PE class is Karaoke.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Disgraceful behaviour FF and one I thoroughly approve of :D But remember the Kinky Twin need to be around for more 'advanced' education :p...well they are college girls and I do have a degree...[/QUOTE]I expect to have a Manila trip next weekend in case you are around. Actually I should say in case you are in town, saying "around" might make you think I'm referring to your outstanding physique LOL.
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Oh really? You mean people actually lie on their online dating advert?[/QUOTE]Damn right. I tell them I'm a gentleman. Nothing could be further from the truth. LOL.
Imagine an ad where the guy is honest and says ":
Hi Girls, I'm a horny bastard and want to visit your country, and fuck as many of you as I can in as short as time as posible. I maybe want to fill all your holes and take pics of you in very strange poses. I wil probably insert whatever I can find into you, and dress you in tackly lingerie/bikinis.
I might pay you for this priviledge but maybe not. I will choose a bonking time when you probably don't need to eat because I don't want to spend money on you.
When we are finished bonking I don't want to hear you talking as I will be thinking about who else I'm going to bonk.
I may give my other horny bastard friends your phone number too.
Please contact me.
Ok now THAT would be an honest ad!. Wonder if he would get any hits.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Damn right. I tell them I'm a gentleman. Nothing could be further from the truth. LOL.
Imagine an ad where the guy is honest and says ":
Hi Girls, I'm a horny bastard and want to visit your country, and fuck as many of you as I can in as short as time as posible. I maybe want to fill all your holes and take pics of you in very strange poses. I wil probably insert whatever I can find into you, and dress you in tackly lingerie/bikinis.
I might pay you for this priviledge but maybe not. I will choose a bonking time when you probably don't need to eat because I don't want to spend money on you.
When we are finished bonking I don't want to hear you talking as I will be thinking about who else I'm going to bonk.
I may give my other horny bastard friends your phone number too.
Please contact me.
Ok now THAT would be an honest ad!. Wonder if he would get any hits.[/QUOTE]
Am sure you would get a few (but would they be the qulaity you would like) but that would spoil the fun of the hunt
As for 'round" ........well am big in all places - so say the girls :D
Am not around Manila next weekend :( but am later - will email you and lets see if we can enjoy the temples of love we so much admire in Manila :p
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Damn right. I tell them I'm a gentleman. Nothing could be further from the truth. LOL.
Imagine an ad where the guy is honest and says ":
Hi Girls, I'm a horny bastard and want to visit your country, and fuck as many of you as I can in as short as time as posible. I maybe want to fill all your holes and take pics of you in very strange poses. I wil probably insert whatever I can find into you, and dress you in tackly lingerie/bikinis.
I might pay you for this priviledge but maybe not. I will choose a bonking time when you probably don't need to eat because I don't want to spend money on you.
When we are finished bonking I don't want to hear you talking as I will be thinking about who else I'm going to bonk.
I may give my other horny bastard friends your phone number too.
Please contact me.
Ok now THAT would be an honest ad!. Wonder if he would get any hits.[/QUOTE]
LOL, Post of the year!
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Badminton Hoties
Actually, there are some real stunners on the badminton courts.
I like to play, and put in a fair amount of time at in when I was working in Manila.
I used to take a gorgeous woman who was an announcer on one of the popular TV programs, another who was a fashion/lingerie model.
Wow.
And when there was a tournament, the place would be full of lithe, lissome women - I was always blown away.
So, maybe the local badminton courts are a good place for trolling.
G
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[QUOTE=Gangles]
So, maybe the local badminton courts are a good place for trolling.[/QUOTE]
I thought the same would be the case for my local 'Fitness First' gym, but, sad to say, its full of fatties and posers.
Nary a stunner in sight.
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[QUOTE=Gangles]Actually, there are some real stunners on the badminton courts.
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Yup! Also check out hip hop dancing class .. mostly girls and fags, you are usually the only straight guy in the group :)
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me (10/19/2010 7:01:56 PM): you are not really 65 kgs are you?
me (10/19/2010 7:02:07 PM): if you are only 5ft 2 ins
her (10/19/2010 7:02:13 PM): what u think
her (10/19/2010 7:02:22 PM): tell me
me (10/19/2010 7:02:24 PM): are you chubby? Taba?
her (10/19/2010 7:02:29 PM): not really
me (10/19/2010 7:02:30 PM): you dont look it I see the foto
her (10/19/2010 7:02:35 PM): oki
me (10/19/2010 7:02:50 PM): 65 kgs means you are quite big if you are only 5ft 2 ins
her (10/19/2010 7:03:02 PM): im not?big
me (10/19/2010 7:03:07 PM): I can see that
me (10/19/2010 7:03:16 PM): so why you put 65 kgs?
her (10/19/2010 7:03:16 PM): yes
her (10/19/2010 7:03:21 PM): i didnt
me (10/19/2010 7:03:29 PM): in your profile it says that
her (10/19/2010 7:03:36 PM): thats not my profile
me (10/19/2010 7:03:39 PM): it says 5ft 2 ins and 65 kgs
her (10/19/2010 7:03:46 PM): i use that coz my porfile is close
her (10/19/2010 7:03:57 PM): so i use profile of my friend
me (10/19/2010 7:04:02 PM): whaaat? so the foto
me (10/19/2010 7:04:11 PM): is that you or ur fren?
her (10/19/2010 7:04:18 PM): yeah its me
her (10/19/2010 7:04:20 PM): i know
me(10/19/2010 7:04:51 PM): now you know why i asked if your profile was yours. crazy
her (10/19/2010 7:05:00 PM): i know dont worry ia snwer u the truth
OMG! wow her english wreaks. Okay I'm a filipino (uh ... filipina) but I don't speak or type like that. She makes me wonder if almost every girl who apply as a chamber maid uses dating websites to hook-up with foreigners and suck all their cash out for their electric bills. Crap I'm mean.
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Hey welcome to the board!
Im sorry I did not understand a thing that you were trying to say. Your english wreaks and you type worse than my chamber maid who is sucking me dry.
Ok just had to say that.
[QUOTE=Mafia360]OMG! wow her english wreaks. Okay I'm a filipino (uh ... filipina) but I don't speak or type like that. She makes me wonder if almost every girl who apply as a chamber maid uses dating websites to hook-up with foreigners and suck all their cash out for their electric bills. Crap I'm mean.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mafia360]
OMG! wow her english wreaks. Okay I'm a filipino (uh ... filipina) but I don't speak or type like that. She makes me wonder if almost every girl who apply as a chamber maid uses dating websites to hook-up with foreigners and suck all their cash out for their electric bills. Crap I'm mean.[/QUOTE]
you're a filipino if you're a guy, filipina is a girl...:p
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[QUOTE=Tenchi]you're a Filipino if you're a guy, filipina is a girl.[/QUOTE]LOL. Technical terms. My passport says I'm a Filipino LOL. So I'm using Filipino not Filipino.. Anyways thanks.
BTW. I love reading your posts cause I am that perverted
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[QUOTE=Mafia360]
OMG! wow her english wreaks. Okay I'm a filipino (uh ... filipina) but I don't speak or type like that. She makes me wonder if almost every girl who apply as a chamber maid uses dating websites to hook-up with foreigners and suck all their cash out for their electric bills. Crap I'm mean.[/QUOTE]
You actually missed the point.
We have been noting here how profiles usually do not represent (a) what a girl really wants because she has randomly copied it from another profile (b) the height and weight of a girl because many girls don't know so they make it up (c) deliberately misleading profiles (usually from baklas).
The transcript I provided was NOT meant to show anything about grammar, english skills or spelling - it was illustrating how this girl just took over her friend's profile, didn't change anything except the photo, nd then passed it off as though she was "telling the truth".
Mafia - It is always very risky to criticize other people's grammar and spelling unless your own is impeccable. Look up "impeccable" in your dictionary.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]You actually missed the point.
We have been noting here how profiles usually do not represent (a) what a girl really wants because she has randomly copied it from another profile (b) the height and weight of a girl because many girls don't know so they make it up (c) deliberately misleading profiles (usually from baklas).
The transcript I provided was NOT meant to show anything about grammar, english skills or spelling - it was illustrating how this girl just took over her friend's profile, didn't change anything except the photo, nd then passed it off as though she was "telling the truth".
Mafia - It is always very risky to criticize other people's grammar and spelling unless your own is impeccable. Look up "impeccable" in your dictionary.[/QUOTE]Unlss we talkng in txt langwaj den impekble is ok....smlz
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Dia In Manila
Guys in Manila might want to check out this dancer who contacted me last night. Great line in her profile, (original?), "The guy may wear the pants, but I control the zipper. " She's in DIA. Kessie23.
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"Can I bring my friend" and how to deal with it..
I would like some experience sharing on the annoying issue of chaperones where the girl insists on dragging along her friend/gay cousin/mum to her first date with you...
In my experience such proposal means several things none of them good:
- The girl is not comfortable with you
- She's too shy to talk and needs to drag along somebody who can actually talk
- She is an overgrown baby in need of a nanny and cant get mums permission to go out alone (at a tender 26 years of age!)
- The friend(s) will be doing all the talking with you in english while the girl just chats with them in tagalog/visayan ignoring you
- You are expected to pay for the entertainment and dining of the entire happy group
Not exactly what we have in mind for a fine evening right?
Here is what I usually do when I get the dreaded "Can I bring my fren" sms..
1. Swear and curse with f words
2. txt her back saying "You are welcome to bring your friends dear if they pay their bills"
3. "friends" immediately lose interest in meeting you at first mention of paying bills
4. At this point the girl either begrudgingly accepts to meet you alone or (more often) refuses
Share some wisdom, oh Wise Old Patriarchs?
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"Can I bring my friend" and how to deal with it..
I would like some experience sharing on the annoying issue of chaperones where the girl insists on dragging along her friend/gay cousin/mum to her first date with you...
In my experience such proposal means several things none of them good:
- The girl is not comfortable with you
- She's too shy to talk and needs to drag along somebody who can actually talk
- She is an overgrown baby in need of a nanny and cant get mums permission to go out alone (at a tender 26 years of age!)
- The friend(s) will be doing all the talking with you in english while the girl just chats with them in tagalog/visayan ignoring you
- You are expected to pay for the entertainment and dining of the entire happy group
Not exactly what we have in mind for a fine evening right?
Here is what I usually do when I get the dreaded "Can I bring my fren" sms..
1. Swear and curse with f words
2. txt her back saying "You are welcome to bring your friends dear if they pay their bills"
3. "friends" immediately lose interest in meeting you at first mention of paying bills
4. At this point the girl either begrudgingly accepts to meet you alone or (more often) refuses
Share some wisdom, oh Wise Old Patriarchs?[/QUOTE]
This is very common and you need to expect it as long as they dopnt bring the whole family as one girls did...Jollibee meal plan then either they all go or you do (with or without girl..make a fast decision)
Sometimes the friend is very cute and I ask is friend cute (like you) her age etc and you can get lucky and she will stay and have fun...but she can also turn out to be a LB...so ask, be direct. IMHO if her friend is a LB she will have him/her far more as a comfort blanket (than a normal girlfriend) so friend can see you, make sure you 'respectable' (many definitions of that in my case :D) and then let you have the wicked way
Some bring their mothers and after the first meeting mom will give permission to the girl to shag your brains out - this has happened before to me and others I know...but also I have a bust and nothing happended despite asking (in my early years I was far too naive..)
So many ways to interpret that phrase but never be shy to ask about the friend and details and say, once friend has met me and we have eaten we can be alone and go my hotel..yes or no? Ask, as if she says no then there are plenty fish in the sea
Depends on your time also, do you have time for a second meeting, are you full of MSB (massive sperm build up) and cant wait and need a release...
My thoughts at least
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Can I bring a friend ?
There are wiser guys than I here. Many will insist that you demand they come alone or forget it.
I think they are wrong.
If you play the game right you will get a lot more mileage and there are many examples in here of chaperones who were easy to get rid of. Heck, I had one wait in the lobby while I did the deed.
On another occasion I had all 3 give me a hand / BJ and offer me 6 tits, before two left, leaving me one overnight. And I am No superman or stud.
There are other cases here where a whole tribe has turned up bringing a tribe for a feed.
My suggestion? Actively welcome the "cousin" mostly they know the deal and are just there to keep the parents /family from denying permission. (needed no matter what age you are). Instead of saying "no" or even "ok" say "sure! That would be fun! " or even "that's ok even bring an armed guard if you like"
Also you need to go with the flow. The local dating scenario is a bunch of friends all going out together. The houses usually have 10 residents or more. So its weird for them to go out alone, even shameful and certainly uncomfortable. Make that very uncomfortable.
You have invested a lot to get here. I suggest you invest a little more the food is cheap.
Happy Hunting!
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"Can I bring my friend" and how to deal with it..
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Its also for their safety too... never had one bring a mum or LB or lol a group, gosh I think in the latter case I would walk with my wallet in tact.
For the regular friend scenario I just go with the flow, I don't spend too much or much time either. I assume it's her just making sure I'm not a weirdo lol... the next meet she'll come alone. If you've got some Brad Pitt genes, try bad 'em both lol
I wouldnt tell anyone they're paying their own bills, that'd be awkward I think :/
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It all depends
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"Can I bring my friend" and how to deal with it..
I would like some experience sharing on the annoying issue of chaperones where the girl insists on dragging along her friend/gay cousin/mum to her first date with you...
In my experience such proposal means several things none of them good:
- The girl is not comfortable with you
- She's too shy to talk and needs to drag along somebody who can actually talk
- She is an overgrown baby in need of a nanny and cant get mums permission to go out alone (at a tender 26 years of age!)
- The friend(s) will be doing all the talking with you in english while the girl just chats with them in tagalog/visayan ignoring you
- You are expected to pay for the entertainment and dining of the entire happy group
Not exactly what we have in mind for a fine evening right?
Here is what I usually do when I get the dreaded "Can I bring my fren" sms..
1. Swear and curse with f words
2. txt her back saying "You are welcome to bring your friends dear if they pay their bills"
3. "friends" immediately lose interest in meeting you at first mention of paying bills
4. At this point the girl either begrudgingly accepts to meet you alone or (more often) refuses
Share some wisdom, oh Wise Old Patriarchs?[/QUOTE]
Like so man things in the Phils it all depends on a number of factors, but generally you are right it's not good news.
I agree with WR its important to find out exactly who their freind is and what their purpose of being there is.
Often it will be a Lady Boy often described as a cousin which may or not be true. If it's a LB the most common case is that the LB wants to insert himself in some sort of middleman role. Many LBs have female friends and it is common if you find that your chatmate is an LB and you make it clear you are not interested, for him to say , but I can give you a nice girl. The purpose in this case will generally to make a few bucks as an intermediary in terms of taxi or lunch or fuck off money. he will often take the lead in conversation and be interested to push up the price that you may pay, but on a more positive note, he will also usually be keen for you to fuck his friend as long as he gets what he sees as a reasonable cut. Things can sometimes turn nasty in terms of blackmail situations with young girls or I'm not leaving your room until you give me some m omney etc so I try to avoid this scenario if possible. However like everything there are exceptions and a friend has been with a wonderful girl for 3 years now that he was originally introduced to via a scamming LB. The girls who have LB friends will often be young and naughty.
If the chaperone is an older female relative, its most likely to be a proper chaperone role, sometimes they just want to see you are an OK guy and that you have met her (remember plenty of guys make dates then just dont show up leaving the girl in the lurch). If you pass the sniff test either she can be told to take the jeep back perhaps after a jollybees or you can meet the girl alone on a second meeting.
The third scenario is a simialr age female freidn and i usually ask how old she is, her weight, figure and whateher she is open minded about sex, so sometimes this can result in a threesome but often it is the most likely scanario to result in nothing.
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Who and what I am
[QUOTE=Radical Guy]For a lot of ladies, it simply means they have lost their virginity.[/QUOTE]
my understanding is that this phrase was originally popularised on a game show such as WowWowWee,
By and large it means that there is something about her which she sees as meaning that she is not the ideal partner.
This can be:
She is a lady boy
She is a poor girl
She is an unmarried or divorcee mum
She is not educated
She is not so cute at least in Phil eyes (could mean short, dark skinned, too skinny too fat)
She is from a "simple", unsophisticated background
The 5ft 5in, college educated, fair skinned girl with perfect body and no baby from a wealthy family would probably never say this, but as such girls are in a 1% minority that leaves plenty who might.
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Can I Bring My......?
I had been corresponding with two girls from Talisay on DIA. One was 19 and the other 21. After I reached Cebu, I put Plan A and Plan B into action,hoping to score with at least one of them. After several messages back and forth, 'The penny dropped.' I got the feeling that they were sisters.
I asked the 21 yr old if she was related to the other. In her reply, she confirmed that this was so. "Do you want me to come to your hotel ?"
she asked.
"Just you, or with your sister?"
"With my sister, but if you want to fuck, then fuck me, coz my sister is still a virgin." she replied.
So, they did, and I did.
On my next visit, I hope to score with the younger one, or both. LOL
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]The third scenario is a simialr age female freidn and i usually ask how old she is, her weight, figure and whateher she is open minded about sex, so sometimes this can result in a threesome but often it is the most likely scanario to result in nothing.[/QUOTE]
Great comments guys.. lots of good comments.
Greg, I also found that a female chaperone of the same age usually leads to "nothing".. She'll bring the uglier, fatter and much more talkative college friend with the idea that "oh if he dont like me.. maybe Grace will.." causing an awkward date triangle that usually does NOT lead to a hot threesome. The girl doesnt want to look like a $lut in front of her friend and will decline the invitation to go to the hotel, with rare exceptions. I'd rather have her bring mommy lol... at least its clear who is on a date and who is in chaperone role.
And very interesting prospective on ladyboys in a pimp role.. up to now my interaction with ladyboys was limited to "fuck off faggot" but I now realise I should stop being a hater and explore their social network for opportunities :)
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Sisters
Don't ever turn down the sister visit. If your GF is having her period, she may offer up the sister to keep you happy. Don't be shy to even ask. You will be
Surprised.
Recently my GF and I went to LA Cafe (Manila Bay whatever) and we picked up a 3rd. Because my GF was having her period. We did photos and vids of the nite. Will post later.
My Aussie friend is currently doing sisters, because one is having her period.
Ah. Good family relations is a wonderful thing. He moved to a bigger room with a king size bed.
Cheapy
[QUOTE=Questor55]I had been corresponding with two girls from Talisay on DIA. One was 19 and the other 21. After I reached Cebu, I put Plan A and Plan B into action,hoping to score with at least one of them. After several messages back and forth, 'The penny dropped.' I got the feeling that they were sisters.
I asked the 21 yr old if she was related to the other. In her reply, she confirmed that this was so. "Do you want me to come to your hotel ?"
she asked.
"Just you, or with your sister?"
"With my sister, but if you want to fuck, then fuck me, coz my sister is still a virgin." she replied.
So, they did, and I did.
On my next visit, I hope to score with the younger one, or both. LOL[/QUOTE]
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Friends
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Great comments guys.. lots of good comments.
Greg, I also found that a female chaperone of the same age usually leads to "nothing".. She'll bring the uglier, fatter and much more talkative college friend with the idea that "oh if he dont like me.. maybe Grace will.." causing an awkward date triangle that usually does NOT lead to a hot threesome. The girl doesnt want to look like a $lut in front of her friend and will decline the invitation to go to the hotel, with rare exceptions. I'd rather have her bring mommy lol... at least its clear who is on a date and who is in chaperone role.
And very interesting prospective on ladyboys in a pimp role.. up to now my interaction with ladyboys was limited to "fuck off faggot" but I now realise I should stop being a hater and explore their social network for opportunities :)[/QUOTE]
I agree, as a rule the "friend" tends to be less attractive in some way, which of course makes complete sense from the girl's perspective. Bringing along a hotter girl obviously risks being marginalised if you turn out to be a good prospect. Sometimes the intention all along is to have a threesome and the second one is tagging along trying to pick up business on the coattails of her more attractive friend. In other cases the intention all along is to check you out and score a Jollybees, so why not score two Jollybees? In less touristed areas it maybe that meeting a foreigner is itself a novelty and her they are just sharing the experience.
Personally I am wary of the girls introduced by LBs. They will typically be young and "open minded", however the LB will generally try to control the situation to maximise his own profit. Often such girls do not speak great English (and thus be more dependent on a mediator). sometimes she will not really be his "friend" at all simply someone he has picked up from one of the local oriented hooker areas. Of course there are always exceptions and you must judge each situation as best you can.
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"I am not here for games"
This is gotta be THE most common line I read on profiles. Not talking about poker and sudoku I guess :) from what I gathered this is translated as "looking for a husband"
For those of you who just look for a quick shag (thats most of us here) .. do you bother chatting with "not for games" girls.. or move on to easier pickings?
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"I am not here for games"
This is gotta be THE most common line I read on profiles. Not talking about poker and sudoku I guess :) from what I gathered this is translated as "looking for a husband"
For those of you who just look for a quick shag (thats most of us here) .. do you bother chatting with "not for games" girls.. or move on to easier pickings?[/QUOTE]I've found that the "not for games" girls are just as easy to bang as the rest. I'm sure they prefer the "not for games" boys but in the end it's "up to you".
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"I am not here for games"
This is gotta be THE most common line I read on profiles. Not talking about poker and sudoku I guess :) from what I gathered this is translated as "looking for a husband"
For those of you who just look for a quick shag (thats most of us here) .. do you bother chatting with "not for games" girls.. or move on to easier pickings?[/QUOTE]Ignore the phrase and continue as if she hadnt written it. In her " perfect world" she would find a sweet soulmate walk on the beach sap, but in her relaity she knows her chance of love is slim, so she will settle for a bonk in a Sogo, as a sign thats shes loved.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"I am not here for games"
This is gotta be THE most common line I read on profiles. Not talking about poker and sudoku I guess :) from what I gathered this is translated as "looking for a husband"
For those of you who just look for a quick shag (thats most of us here) .. do you bother chatting with "not for games" girls.. or move on to easier pickings?[/QUOTE]
I have had 2 girls with this line in their profiles turn out to be exceptionally hot and horny.
One of them was using a friend's profile but didnt bother to change it for herself. My profile was very explicit so when she sent me a message I questioned why she had written to me as our profiles didnt match.
She then told me the story, and that she was actually horny and keen to meet.
The other one put that line in because she had read it on other profiles but didnt know what it meant.
Go figure.
Bottom line: Disregard what they say in their profiles. Many (most?) girls have got no idea what they are saying anyway
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Thank you DIA - I am taken
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"I am not here for games"
This is gotta be THE most common line I read on profiles. Not talking about poker and sudoku I guess :) from what I gathered this is translated as "looking for a husband"
For those of you who just look for a quick shag (thats most of us here) .. do you bother chatting with "not for games" girls.. or move on to easier pickings?[/QUOTE]For sure if the lady is hot.
Incidently, I have been contacted by girls who state on their profile that they are engaged/have met someone/not looking for anyone blah blah. The fact that the girl has a foreign boyfriend overseas does not detract them from shagging others - as senior members of this board have indicated.
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Red Kilt,
I could not agree more. They all have it and they all spread their legs on the second date (where the first is a quick HI when stopping by the mall for five minutes).
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concur
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I have had 2 girls with this line in their profiles turn out to be exceptionally hot and horny.
Bottom line: Disregard what they say in their profiles. Many (most?) girls have got no idea what they are saying anyway[/QUOTE]
Some will mean it ("not here for games"). Others will not. Some will not even know what it means. I've had any number of CB girls who had that in her profile, yet she contacted my 'bad boy' profile ("I'm just in town looking for fun for a few days; contact me if you want the same") looking for a hookup. The same girls that wrote "not here for games" will also say later, in chat, after agreeing to sleep with me, "Maybe you can help me my problem?"
Ignore the profile. Its just a way to get her YM address.
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games
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]"I am not here for games"
This is gotta be THE most common line I read on profiles. Not talking about poker and sudoku I guess :) from what I gathered this is translated as "looking for a husband"
For those of you who just look for a quick shag (thats most of us here) .. do you bother chatting with "not for games" girls.. or move on to easier pickings?[/QUOTE]
Some will mean looking fro a serios relationship
others will simply mean not being lied to and in particualr trying to avoid guys who say they are looking for a long term relationship/marriage but just using this as a way to get a quick and possibly free shag.
For others it's just another one of thosse phrases that others put in their profile so why shouldnt i
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Some will mean looking fro a serios relationship
others will simply mean not being lied to and in particualr trying to avoid guys who say they are looking for a long term relationship/marriage but just using this as a way to get a quick and possibly free shag.
For others it's just another one of thosse phrases that others put in their profile so why shouldnt i[/QUOTE]
Isnt every single woman looking for a serious relationship? Doesnt really need to be clarified, the search for a long term mate is hardwired into every female brain. Even the most hard grinded prostitutes deep inside are hoping one of the customers will fall in love with her and start a serious relo.
Maybe Red Kilt is right and we should just ignore whatever is written in the profile.. half of them have no idea what they wrote anyway. What a pond of "quality" we are fishing in aye..
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Isnt every single woman looking for a serious relationship? Doesnt really need to be clarified, the search for a long term mate is hardwired into every female brain. Even the most hard grinded prostitutes deep inside are hoping one of the customers will fall in love with her and start a serious relo.
Maybe Red Kilt is right and we should just ignore whatever is written in the profile.. half of them have no idea what they wrote anyway. What a pond of "quality" we are fishing in aye..[/QUOTE]
Oh boy have you guys got some learning ahead.
They are not looking for a Husband, they are looking for a remittance.
They already have filipono boyfriends out their wazzoo.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Some will mean it ("not here for games"). Others will not. Some will not even know what it means. I've had any number of CB girls who had that in her profile, yet she contacted my 'bad boy' profile ("I'm just in town looking for fun for a few days; contact me if you want the same") looking for a hookup. The same girls that wrote "not here for games" will also say later, in chat, after agreeing to sleep with me, "Maybe you can help me my problem?"
Ignore the profile. Its just a way to get her YM address.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely right.
Take notice of anything they say in the profile or in person.
You are an ATM machine.
Time & time again i have proven them to be totally mercenary.
Fall for the sweet innocent act & you are gone.
There's a lot of hustle out there these days.
Trust no one.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Absolutely right.
Take notice of anything they say in the profile or in person.
You are an ATM machine.
Time & time again i have proven them to be totally mercenary.
Fall for the sweet innocent act & you are gone.
There's a lot of hustle out there these days.
Trust no one.[/QUOTE]
Good timing AV.
I have just received a DIA message and 2 texts - all 3 messages are asking (separately) for
- rent money
- money for water (it has been cut off already)
- help to pay for visa to UAE
They all eventually get to the need for remittance.
The girl who wants money for the visa has been with me 4 or 5 times. Fantastic performer.
Has never asked for a peso. Until now.... lol
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The Biggest Lie
Well we all know that the range of lies ( by them not us lol) covers the white lies to the big whoppers, but for me the biggest one must be
QU. So how many foreigners have you met "
Answer " You are the first"
If I had one dollar/euro/pound/peso for every time Ive heard that I'd be happy.
If all these gals on DIA Tagged etcetc are chatting with all of you guys but ONLY meeting me, that makes me one very lucky lalaki.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]
You are an ATM machine.
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Well I dated girls who havent asked me for a dime and wanted nothing but my time, love and attention.. and gave me presents for birthday/christmas and shared living expenses.
No ATM relationship there.
If you go for ladies who dont have a job/income yes, they will inevitably ask you for money.. I get the feeling you PREFER them because they are easier to put in bed, and thats fine.. but even the most greedy ***** needs to feel loved, its a fundamental instinct of every woman.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Well I dated girls who havent asked me for a dime...[/QUOTE]
See Redkilts post.
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bad-boy profile
[QUOTE=Westcoast1]Some will mean it ("not here for games"). Others will not. Some will not even know what it means. I've had any number of CB girls who had that in her profile, yet she contacted my 'bad boy' profile ("I'm just in town looking for fun for a few days; contact me if you want the same") looking for a hookup. The same girls that wrote "not here for games" will also say later, in chat, after agreeing to sleep with me, "Maybe you can help me my problem?"
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Speaking of that profile, I've found that turning it on just about 3 weeks prior to a philippine trip works wonders. The girls (mostly provincial from north mindanao and also cebu) come out of the woodwork. They are FINE with meeting up for a day or three and banging away. Most want 'help' of some kind. Almost all are willing to come from a long distance to meet with me (bus) as long as I'm on their island; some will even ferry. Half the girls on CB seem to be using the internet to get some cash as opposed to the bar. Same result.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Good timing AV.
- help to pay for visa to UAE
They all eventually get to the need for remittance.
The girl who wants money for the visa has been with me 4 or 5 times. Fantastic performer.
Has never asked for a peso. Until now.... lol[/QUOTE]
I can help RK, will give her some 'lessons' on UAE customs and norms purely from a 'fatherly' perspective. Am sure she finding adapting to new customs and habits exciting and intersting especially the Greek lessons
Peachy time soon my friend, check the emails
R
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I have had 2 girls with this line in their profiles turn out to be exceptionally hot and horny.
Go figure.
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I went to "figure" today and picked an exceptionally conservative profile to test your theory :)
The Profile was...
I want to meet a Male
with age from 31 to 61
and I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
I realize that now the time is right for a loving partner, some one to have great conversations with, to laugh and have fun with, to share joy and sorrow together. Am not in for Short Players, am looking for men with the guts for long term commitments !
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Target identified. Launch the explorer probe Houston :)
[conversation start]
FastBuckArtist wrote: 1 hr, 47 mins ago
Hills of Chocolate with a Cherry on top!!
Girl wrote: 1 hr, 45 mins ago
ha..ha..ha... you want the hills or the cherry?
FastBuckArtist wrote: 1 hr, 41 mins ago
I like my cherries ripe, succulent and mouth watering
Girl wrote: 1 hr, 39 mins ago
well you can taste or lick the cherry if u want ;)
FastBuckArtist wrote: 1 hr, 32 mins ago
I couldnt resist enjoying the ripe cherry.. so thrilled with anticipation I would fly over oceans to get it..
Girl wrote: 1 hr, 29 mins ago
Would you like my cherry then?
FastBuckArtist wrote: 1 hr, 22 mins ago
Oh what should I do dear.. how do I obtain such a fine fruit?
Girl wrote: 1 hr, 19 mins ago
Cum and get me ;) would love to be lick and suck dear ...
I hope you can visit someday and meet me :)
[conversation end]
Mmkay... so much for "not for games" aye...
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Well we all know that the range of lies ( by them not us lol) covers the white lies to the big whoppers, but for me the biggest one must be
QU. So how many foreigners have you met "
Answer " You are the first"
If I had one dollar/euro/pound/peso for every time Ive heard that I'd be happy.
If all these gals on DIA Tagged etcetc are chatting with all of you guys but ONLY meeting me, that makes me one very lucky lalaki.[/QUOTE]
you are ABSOLUTELY right, this is the biggest LIE I ever heard of them.
It is in my interview with them that I am asking for former bf and if they ever met any foreigner before or had sex with a white man.
I always hear that: "YOU ARE THE FIRST"
Since I don΄t believe that grap anyway, I should stop by now asking this question.
THE OTHER BIG LIE IS: when you catch them online unintentionally they will make the excuse: I am doing my assignments for tomorrow; I am helping my sister with her assignments or (when caught with webcam on): "I am chatting with my cousin, sister etc. etc.
You guys also experiences this?
It is real fun for me to watch what will happen when I confront them : "OK my dear, when you are doing your assignments or reports; WHY then you need to be online in ym, online in DIA or even online in CB chat.
the answer will be
COMPLETE SILENCE
happend to me so often, you will not believe me.
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[QUOTE=Rampana]you are ABSOLUTELY right, this is the biggest LIE I ever heard of them.[/QUOTE]
Yea some of these god fearing little angels tell lies that would make mr Freebie look honest in comparison.
The worst one I heard was "I am still a virgin" ... 5 days later I was diagnosed with a Chlamydia infection... thats the last time I went unwrapped with a "virgin"
Oh and I get a kick out of excuses they make when you ask them for their facebook account... which they dont want to give out cause they are "In a Relationship with [some foreign cash cow]" in the said facebook account :D
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I'm funny and cute, looking for Friendship.. I hate PERVERTS
Filipina women are oftenly mistaken as *****s, users, etc. But i would want to show to you that real filipinas are worthy to be loved and are worth dying for. I am not a woman with no dignity, who does sex in exchange of money, who uses foreigners just to go abroad and get rich. I hope I can prove to you that I am genuine. I would really want to have friends with different nationalities.. :)
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=ffa92c68-b8c8-4d09-a487-e08787ae5855[/url]
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]I went to "figure" today and picked an exceptionally conservative profile to test your theory :)
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Fantastic FBA.
You tested my theory and had immediate success.
I remember reading that profile. Just goes to show ... you just cannot believe what they write.
Let us know about further experimentation lol
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You gotta laugh
Was with a half way cute lady(one of seven) during my rompathon last week and of course, took a few snaps of her.
On Monday she kept sending me YM messages asking if I could send her the photos that I took of her in the bikini I got her.
Sent them to her. And there today on Manila's most active is said lady in said bikini. Next time I'm putting a copywright on my pics. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Rampana]you are ABSOLUTELY right, this is the biggest LIE I ever heard of them.
It is in my interview with them that I am asking for former bf and if they ever met any foreigner before or had sex with a white man.
I always hear that: "YOU ARE THE FIRST"
Since I don΄t believe that grap anyway, I should stop by now asking this question.
THE OTHER BIG LIE IS: when you catch them online unintentionally they will make the excuse: I am doing my assignments for tomorrow; I am helping my sister with her assignments or (when caught with webcam on): "I am chatting with my cousin, sister etc. etc.
You guys also experiences this?
It is real fun for me to watch what will happen when I confront them : "OK my dear, when you are doing your assignments or reports; WHY then you need to be online in ym, online in DIA or even online in CB chat.
the answer will be
COMPLETE SILENCE
happend to me so often, you will not believe me.[/QUOTE]
Oh i believe you mate!
This is absolutely par for the course.
Another indicator i tell newbies to look for is the cell phone.
Ever noticed how when you're with them their cell phone is NEVER OFF, txt'ing constantly 24/7 even when she should be sleeping. Seemingly infinite load & amazing battery life... And yet as soon as you leave town replies to your txt's take a very long time, voice calls go unanswered. "the number you have called is switched off"
You ask them & standard answer : Low batt, no load, sleeping.
Bullshit.
Ask them for the password to their email account, you're eyes will fall out.
Find their facebook/friendster/tagged accounts using google, you soon wise up about that shy 'good girl'.
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One very good girl (so I thought) wrote across a photo in friendster: "fuck me in the ass". I almost fell off my chair!
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One girl I met at Angeles told me she is late with her period. I told her to buy an early pregnancy test and found out she was positive. I taught it was mine because she say she always use condomns. Luckily she told me it wasn't mine and know who the person was. What a relief it was. I found out later it was her Filipino boyfriend from before. She could've got me good. Whew.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Oh i believe you mate!
Ask them for the password to their email account, you're eyes will fall out.
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I did twice last year, mate. And my eyes WERE falling out..... lol
NOT FUNNY for me in this moment because I still believed all that crap that time.
One girl was in the province; all she did was ARABS.....
The other girl was AC and pregnant.....
These girl are so S...t...u....p....i...d sometimes.
They gave me their passord for their friendster and I could open up all other accounts also, including DIA and ym....
This opened my eyes significantly...
I nearly fall off my chair at home, especially with the AC "non Bar Girl"
The sheer number of horny guys the AC met and also that kind of conversations she had there....
OMG, she didn΄t know I know and of course she told me always: YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE
BULLSHIT
Nothing to believe anymore
From that moment on my device is....
F. and Forget
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She was probably a camgirl and used that phto for her online work. Did you tell her "Ok, I'm gunna fuck your ass?"
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]One very good girl (so I thought) wrote across a photo in friendster: "fuck me in the ass". I almost fell off my chair![/QUOTE]
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mattivy from cebu
mattivy from cebu and I have been writing and she gives me her facebook. she marked "married" but it could be a typo but then I found her talking about being married and how happy it made her.
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[QUOTE=Rampana]I did twice last year, mate. And my eyes WERE falling out..... lol
NOT FUNNY for me in this moment because I still believed all that crap that time.[/QUOTE]Yeah, i still remember the moment from about 6 years ago when I did that for the first time. It hit's you like an electric shock because coming from the west we get totally suckered by these cute very young innocent looking girls.. Totally - mercenary - sluts.
And just to be clear I'm not putting down the P4P girls. Those little girls have crossed over the line for their own reasons, any man who fall's for a hooker in any country is a fool.
I'm talking about beautiful girls of 18- 19 girls from good families studying at university with everything to live for.
[QUOTE=Rampana]One girl was in the province; all she did was ARABS.....
The other girl was AC and pregnant.....[/QUOTE]And the really repulsive thing is these guy's they're doing are ugly cunts with *nothing* going for them. Just brings home how utterly mercenary these girls are. *Any* belief that they see something nice in you is totally lost forever at that point. Shit even bar girls are more selective about who they will fuck than these 'good girls' on the dating sites.
[QUOTE=Rampana]These girl are so S...t...u....p....i...d sometimes.
They gave me their passord for their friendster and I could open up all other accounts also, including DIA and ym.... This opened my eyes significantly...
I nearly fall off my chair at home, especially with the AC "non Bar Girl"
The sheer number of horny guys the AC met and also that kind of conversations she had there....
OMG, she didn΄t know I know and of course she told me always: YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE
BULLSHIT
Nothing to believe anymore
From that moment on my device is....
F. and Forget[/QUOTE]Yep, Really sad but true... wish there was some way I could print this on an arrival card to be handed out in airports.. so many guy's get *totally* conned.
When I posted about this previously I was mocked as being bitter about past failures or something. Nothing could be further from the truth. I survived this mad place. Some of my best mates here did not. Several getting hurt financially or through drink, one even blew his brains out with a pistol. So sad I could'nt open their eyes in time & that they hurt themselves because these Pinays are *not* worth it.
Que the captain sav'a'hoes... <sigh>
AV
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Lucky Escape
[QUOTE=George111]One girl I met at Angeles told me she is late with her period. I told her to buy an early pregnancy test and found out she was positive. I taught it was mine because she say she always use condomns. Luckily she told me it wasn't mine and know who the person was. What a relief it was. I found out later it was her Filipino boyfriend from before. She could've got me good. Whew.[/QUOTE]
This is one of the main reasons I always use condoms in Phils. Many Phil girls are quite keen to get pregnant with a Western guy in the hope that he will either marry her or maintain her and the baby. It would be very rare for Phil BFs to ever use condoms and I suspect 50% of mongers also go uncovered. IMHO this is a risky strategy.
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Read Leather
[QUOTE=Amavida] Yep, Really sad but true... wish there was some way I could print this on an arrival card to be handed out in airports.. so many guy's get *totally* conned.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, couldnt agree more. Girls of any class or background, who are found on online dating sites should be treated with as much suspicion as those found in bars, malls or hookers picked up off the street. Forget the crap about love, soul partners and other such nonsense. Its your bank balance they are interested in. If you dont believe me, next time you make contact with a likely looking honey, try telling her that your skint and could she lend you 1000 pesos when you next meet and see how long she sticks around. Although she will not actually believe you as Filipinas all assume foreigners are as rich as Croesus.
It was mentioned not too long ago, but anyone contemplating a trip to Thailand or Philippines (or any other Far Eastern destination) should pick up a copy of Private Dancer by Stephen Leather. It is set in Thailand but is just as valid here. Read it and weep and if you are coming out this way on the hunt for anything more than a few short term adventures, it might help stop you making the biggest mistake of your life. Reread it recently and although it was written about 15 years ago, it is not dated and its truths apply just as much now (or even more so) as then. And it is a damned good read. He must have been a prolific monger:).
Because Leather couldnt persuade his publishers to print it for a long time, he made it freely available online without copyright restriction. So if you want to read it try a google search or failing that, PM me your email address and Ill send you an acrobat copy.
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The Middle Way
The last couple of pages seem to be dominated by comments from those, notably Amavida who seem to be dripping with contempt for Filipinas in general and those on the dating sites in particular.
It's certainly the case that newbies need to be given a reality check: that many of those who portray themselves as good girls are far more "open minded" than suggested, that the overwhelming majority will be financially motivated in terms of the possibility of long term support or short term payments.
However, if one develops an attitude of contempt towards these girls IMHO one may protect oneself from scams and overcharging but you also lose something in terms of never really having any sort of relationship with these girls beyond immediate sexual gratification.
Regards the honesty of the girls one needs to remember that.
1 The dating sites themselves encourage dishonesty. Any girl that explicitly mentions payments or financial rewards etc will soon get her profile taken down and her computer blacklisted.
2 The vast majority of guys on these sites are liars and hypocrites. The number one male lie is probably the promise that he will be coming to the Phils soon and in particular to her town and that he wants to meet her. The vast majority of guys will tell this to far morer girls than they could ever possibly meet even if they do actually come to The Phils. The majority of guys (esp on DIA) of course will never actually buy the ticket to come to the Phils at all and are really just trying to kill time or have erotic conversations with cute young girls.
Nevertheless many guys are insanely jealous. They want to be the only guy that the girl is contacting, the first white guy that she will meet, they will ask for her passwords to her accounts, and if things go further call her up randomly to check up on her.
It seems to me that this may be justified if a guy has agreed to support a girl and enter into an exclusive type of arrangement, but many guys demand this type of fidelity on no more than the promise that they plan to meet her in 4 months time. Given that a girl should probably never attribute more than a 10% chance of the guy actually coming to see her, certainly until such point that he has a confirmed booked flight, a girl would have to be pretty stupid to actually pin all her hopes on this particular guy turning up. However because at least 505 of the guys seem to want this type of "loyalty" they are effectively forced to telling a load of lies.
My own style is not to get too concerned about these girls going out with other guys (sometimes not that easy with particular favourites), never to send money to girls when I'm not there, but to reward them fairly for time spent with me and services rendered. I always make it clear that I will see a bunch of other girls, and enjoy threesomes etc. My experience is that if one does this, the girls are generally pretty upfront and honest about who else they are scheduled to see and when etc.
Anyhow it works well enough for me.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]............
It was mentioned not too long ago, but anyone contemplating a trip to Thailand or Philippines (or any other Far Eastern destination) should pick up a copy of Private Dancer by Stephen Leather. It is set in Thailand but is just as valid here. Read it and weep and if you are coming out this way on the hunt for anything more than a few short term adventures, it might help stop you making the biggest mistake of your life. Reread it recently and although it was written about 15 years ago, it is not dated and its truths apply just as much now (or even more so) as then. And it is a damned good read. He must have been a prolific monger:)...............[/QUOTE]
I was the one who mentioned Stephen Leather's book here Stunning, and although set in Thailand (Bkk) I agree with you that it has some important messages for mongers in Phils as well.
It is freely available in most bookshops here - I just saw a copy in National Books in SM Megamall.
I also mentioned in the same post a book called "Ermita", by F. Sionil Jose (a Phils National Artist for Literature - 87 yo and still going).
It is published in Manila and also freely available (and cheap too!)
It is a very definitive account of a filipina's life.
Jose has collected key traits (good and bad) from every filipina you you are EVER likely to meet and put them into his complex main character. Some guys might recognize themselves in some of the other characters.
I actually got more insights out of it than I did from "Private Dancer".
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]The last couple of pages seem to be dominated by comments from those, notably Amavida who seem to be dripping with contempt for Filipinas in general and those on the dating sites in particular.
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My own style is not to get too concerned about these girls going out with other guys (sometimes not that easy with particular favourites), never to send money to girls when I'm not there, but to reward them fairly for time spent with me and services rendered. I always make it clear that I will see a bunch of other girls, and enjoy threesomes etc. My experience is that if one does this, the girls are generally pretty upfront and honest about who else they are scheduled to see and when etc.[/QUOTE]
G'day Greg, thanks for your comment mate.
My summary of your approach is :
1) Treat the place as a sex tourist destination only.
2) Treat all girls are prostitutes.
And this is different to my take how??
My wish is simply to warn off guy's contemplating PI as a) retirement location and b) a place to find a life partner. IMHO bad idea. I've walked the walk. It ain't pretty..
Frankly I developed more respect for bar girls than 'good girls', at least they're honest about what they are doing.
AV
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Maybe you were looking for the wrong type of girl regarding life partner? Or maybe they saw you comming from a long way off and their game was better?
I have met a few regular girls that were keepers. They never talked about money and when I insisted to take them shopping they were very fruggle and I had to push them into buying extra clothes and stuff. I only did that after the 2nd or 3rd day I was with them and saw what their character was like.
I would leave my money out in plain view and offer this and that when ever we went out. The ones who took the bait fell off my list but the sex was fun.
The filipina who is now my gf is a sweetheart and I have known here for a year. She is super sexy but did not give me the best sex from my trip or enjoy when I tried to take nude photos of her. But she seems to have all the traits of a long term partner like, never asking for money even if she really needs it, gave me all her passwords to her accounts even though I did not ask or want, she introduced me to her family who never expected or asked for money or things, she washed and folded my clothes everyday and alot of other things that were wonderful.
Who knows if the relationship will workout for long term but there are wonderful filipinas who are keepers.
You probably won't find a keeper if she is willing to have sex for money or who gives it up the first time you meet her or if your prime idea is to fuck the hottest filipina and give nothing back except a few pesos.
Just my take on filipinas.
[QUOTE=Amavida] b) a place to find a life partner. IMHO bad idea. I've walked the walk. It ain't pretty.
Frankly I developed more respect for bar girls than 'good girls', at least they're honest about what they are doing.
AV[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt] .
I also mentioned in the same post a book called "Ermita", by F. Sionil Jose (a Phils National Artist for Literature - 87 yo and still going).
It is published in Manila and also freely available (and cheap too!)
It is a very definitive account of a filipina's life.
Jose has collected key traits (good and bad) from every filipina you you are EVER likely to meet and put them into his complex main character. Some guys might recognize themselves in some of the other characters.
I actually got more insights out of it than I did from "Private Dancer".[/QUOTE]
I'll have to read it, although the story plot does not appear to be contemporaneous, having being set in pre-Marcos Manila.
If you want to meet the old chap who wrote the novel, he is the owner of that funky old bookshop on Padre Faura called the Solidaridad. I've passed it many times but never been in, thinking from the window display that it was devoted to religeous tracts (hardly the thing for an old sinner like me:)). But it is actually [b]THE[/b] place for literary types in Manila.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I'll have to read it, although the story plot does not appear to be contemporaneous, having being set in pre-Marcos Manila.
If you want to meet the old chap who wrote the novel, he is the owner of that funky old bookshop on Padre Faura called the Solidaridad. I've passed it many times but never been in, thinking from the window display that it was devoted to religeous tracts (hardly the thing for an old sinner like me:)). But it is actually [b]THE[/b] place for literary types in Manila.[/QUOTE]
Been there many times mate.
Religious???? Francisco Sionil Jose sure aint that.
He is an icon. I agree it was written right up to and included Marcos period but.... as you very well know, things change slowly in the PI culture CS. You will get insights into the politician's mistress scene, the call-girl scene, the snobbery of the upper class etc etc.
Still contemporaneous enough to be a good read.
Suck it and see
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Contemplating PI as a) retirement location
"My wish is simply to warn off guy's contemplating PI as a) retirement location"
Please explain.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]
My wish is simply to warn off guy's contemplating PI as a) retirement location and b) a place to find a life partner. IMHO bad idea. I've walked the walk. It ain't pretty.
AV[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I would write off the entire country as a retirement destination. I know several expats who have retired here and enjoy themselves thoroughly. For the most part these are guys with decent nest eggs, who live well, enjoy year-round golfing and other sports, and don't while away their time getting drunk in seedy expat bars with others of similar ilk. For the most part, these guys are married to Filipinas, have built or are renting decent houses, and live thoroughly middle class lives.
GE
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]"My wish is simply to warn off guy's contemplating PI as a) retirement location"
Please explain.[/QUOTE]
Exploding population + entrenched kleptocracy = looming disaster
Increasing cost of living + crumbling third world infrastructure = relatively expensive for a shit hole.
Foreign ownership hostile laws.
A joke of a land tenure system.
Increasing gun violence.
Extra Judicial political killings.
Increasing Insurgency..
I gave the place 5 years in my original plan. Time's up & I find countries like Malaysia a compelling choice.
AV
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I know several expats who have retired here and enjoy themselves thoroughly... For the most part, these guys are married to Filipinas, have built or are renting decent houses, and live thoroughly middle class lives.
GE[/QUOTE]
Best of luck to them living at the mercy of their Pinay
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I'd like to add this text
[QUOTE=Amavida]Best of luck to them living at the mercy of their Pinay[/QUOTE]
To the end of Amavida's post, add, "... mercy of their Pinay AND HER FAMILY." But, you know, I could be wrong. While I don't share all of AV's concerns (listed below), I share many of them. The item not listed is this one of having to support her and her family, and being so influenced by them.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]To the end of Amavida's post, add, "... mercy of their Pinay AND HER FAMILY." But, you know, I could be wrong. While I don't share all of AV's concerns (listed below), I share many of them. The item not listed is this one of having to support her and her family, and being so influenced by them.[/QUOTE]
It's like sitting in a bath full of leeches if you get involved with any but the wealthy but then the wealthy girls are so dangerously immature & unstable.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]but then the wealthy girls are so dangerously immature & unstable.[/QUOTE]
That would describe most women in general, IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Best of luck to them living at the mercy of their Pinay[/QUOTE]
Which is why I would never buy a house here. Ain't gonna structure my life around the whims of someone else, regardless of her nationality.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Exploding population + entrenched kleptocracy = looming disaster
Increasing cost of living + crumbling third world infrastructure = relatively expensive for a shit hole.
Foreign ownership hostile laws.
A joke of a land tenure system.
Increasing gun violence.
Extra Judicial political killings.
Increasing Insurgency..
I gave the place 5 years in my original plan. Time's up & I find countries like Malaysia a compelling choice.
AV[/QUOTE]AV you may want to talk to me about Malaysia. I'm just finishing my 5 years here and leaving. Its a not a paradise either.
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But if you came as a retired person and rented both the house and the girl, what would be so bad? If things heated up, you could always move to where ever....keep a low profile, keep your assets out of the country (very important) and keep busy scuba diving...but if you came permanently and tried to Date in Asia for years, someone could target you...
Goodenough, I enjoyed our dinner in Davao several months back.
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Different strokes for different folks
[QUOTE=Amavida]G'day Greg, thanks for your comment mate.
My summary of your approach is:
1) Treat the place as a sex tourist destination only.
2) Treat all girls are prostitutes.
And this is different to my take how?
My wish is simply to warn off guy's contemplating PI as a) retirement location and b) a place to find a life partner. IMHO bad idea. I've walked the walk. It ain't pretty.
Frankly I developed more respect for bar girls than 'good girls', at least they're honest about what they are doing.
AV[/QUOTE]I think one thing that I have learned is that different guys have very different needs and ideas of optimal lives. I think it's all too easy for each one of us to assume that everyone has the same motivational set as we do.
Personally, I would share many of AV's concerns about the Phils as a retirement destination. In terms of property ownership and business the cards are very much stacked against you. The infrastructure is crumbling and compared with elsewhere in Asia it is a violent country. However were I say a 60 year old guy facing the prospect of early retirement in say Huddersfield or Pittsburg scrapping by on a modest pension and almost completely ignored by any female under 50, Phils would certainly have some serious attractions. The problems that you mention are the fundamental reason why incomes in the country have not been increasing at 10% pa like in the rest of Asia. But as those in say Thailand (which now has 2x the GDP/head), the inevitable impact of rising living standards is that hot 20s year olds are no longer keen to hang out with 60 year old guys except on prohibitively high short term rates.
If you are going to marry a Filipina you certainly have to chose wisely and especially try and avoid being picked to the bone by a ravenous family. There are examples of guys who have fallen into this trap, but also as GE has said examples of those who have probably had more fun in their retirement than in their previous 40 years.
Personally I don't feel ready for such a life and prefer a more itinerant lifestyle and shorter term relationships. Does that mean all such lifestyles are the same as AV suggests? Well in a sense they do all boil down to sex tourism / prostitution however IMHO much turns on a guys attitude towards women in general and Filipinas in particular. There are plenty of guys many of whom who have got seriously burned by failed relationships with women who whilst retaining a strong heterosexual sex drive are fundamentally misogynist and who treat all women with cynicism, contempt and suspicion. Others of us, have perhaps not had such negative experiences, have many good female friends and generally get on pretty well with women.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt] try telling her that your skint and could she lend you 1000 pesos when you next meet and see how long she sticks around.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Oh come on mate. That line will get you dumped in any country by any woman. No need to point fingers at filipinas. Every woman wants to have a financially stable partner. Its just common sense.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Exploding population + entrenched kleptocracy = looming disaster
Increasing cost of living + crumbling third world infrastructure = relatively expensive for a shit hole.
AV[/QUOTE]Very true and quite sad. Add awful air&water pollution to your list. But arent mongers in a love affair with shithole countries?. Just look at the most popular threads on this forum. Kenya. Philippines. Cambodia. Dominican Republic. Colombia. Etc. The deeper in shit a country is. The more mongers you'll find there hunting young girls desperate for cash.
If you want infrastructure and fine living. Stay in Gold Coast Queensland.
If you want cheap pussy on demand. Well you'll have to put up with all the "joys" of a 3rd world garbage dump.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist].................
If you want infrastructure and fine living.. stay in Gold Coast Queensland.
If you want cheap pussy on demand.. well you'll have to put up with all the "joys" of a 3rd world garbage dump[/QUOTE]Very harsh and oh so cruel F B A but also, unfortunately, very true.
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At least she's honest
Ms Adrialen from Caloocan is quite nicely honest in her profile when she says she seeks "A man who is rich willing to gave me evrything they had "
Good luck to the punter who gets her! LOL
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Good analysis some comments
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I think one thing that I have learned is that different guys have very different needs and ideas of optimal lives. I think it's all too easy for each one of us to assume that everyone has the same motivational set as we do.
Personally, I would share many of AV's concerns about the Phils as a retirement destination. In terms of property ownership and business the cards are very much stacked against you. The infrastructure is crumbling and compared with elsewhere in Asia it is a violent country. However were I say a 60 year old guy facing the prospect of early retirement in say Huddersfield or Pittsburg scrapping by on a modest pension and almost completely ignored by any female under 50, Phils would certainly have some serious attractions. The problems that you mention are the fundamental reason why incomes in the country have not been increasing at 10% pa like in the rest of Asia. But as those in say Thailand (which now has 2x the GDP/head), the inevitable impact of rising living standards is that hot 20s year olds are no longer keen to hang out with 60 year old guys except on prohibitively high short term rates.
If you are going to marry a Filipina you certainly have to chose wisely and especially try and avoid being picked to the bone by a ravenous family. There are examples of guys who have fallen into this trap, but also as GE has said examples of those who have probably had more fun in their retirement than in their previous 40 years.
Personally I don't feel ready for such a life and prefer a more itinerant lifestyle and shorter term relationships. Does that mean all such lifestyles are the same as AV suggests? Well in a sense they do all boil down to sex tourism / prostitution however IMHO much turns on a guys attitude towards women in general and Filipinas in particular. There are plenty of guys many of whom who have got seriously burned by failed relationships with women who whilst retaining a strong heterosexual sex drive are fundamentally misogynist and who treat all women with cynicism, contempt and suspicion. Others of us, have perhaps not had such negative experiences, have many good female friends and generally get on pretty well with women.[/QUOTE]
Enjoyed your post, good analysis.
In my case I also know that my USA gov. insurance is NO GOOD in the Phil.
This means as an old guy if I get sick my medical bills could well drive me back to the USA significantly more poor than I was when I left. Anyone here know anyone who is on Phil medical insurance through their wives-I wonder if it's any good?
The problem is also that it is very hard to make money in the Phil, especially as a foreigner. Nearly impossible in fact, especially if you intend to do it legally. If you do start making good money you will soon have someone putting the bite on you or trying to get you deported.
I think your "itinerant" outlook has many advantages.
There are VERY FEW women, especially ones you meet online, who will give as good as they get. They want to be taken care of. It's rare to find a woman who contributes as much as the man in a practical manner to the relationship. Sexual partners, housewives, etc might be easy to find in RP but try finding a woman who will help YOU as much as you help her. That's difficult. Especially one that is also good in bed and a good companion.
Also I suffer the malady that many on this board do. I just get tired of the same woman, no matter who she is. I have yet to find a woman who I can be passionate about after 4 years living with her. Often I lose interest in her sexually after that amount of time and, of course, it all goes downhill from there.
Yet the fast paced musical chair sex partner changing described by some here is too much for me and rather empty feeling. True love and companionship that lasts may be more of an illusion than reality. It's amazing to me that some couples stay together for 40-50 years and claim they are happy and content; if they do, I think it's not based on sex.
I used to frequent the pattaycity board-not sure what happened to it, but it had alot of veteran se asian mongerers. Many of them said that the Phil was the LAST place in SE Asia they would want to settle in. Many on other boards have noted as others here have that the country is overpriced and not a good value, even compared to Thailand. The PI ridiculous visa fees, which, imo are just a method for trying to keep poorer foreigners from entering and line the pockets of a corrupt gov., add to the burden of the bad air, pollution, crime and scamarama qualities of the Phil.
The fact is about the only good thing about the Phil is the impoverished, and thus needy Filipinas there. They know they are in Hell and they want out. I guess the foreigner who has it made there is someone who is married to a rich, connected Filipina who is not too jealous and overlooks his indiscretions, if such a creature exists. Also of course the many beaches, services, such as massage are cheap as are most of the locally raised food and caught fish.
Just some random thoughts off the top of my head at 1:30am here.....
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Filipina Friends
For those who like girls with a larger developed chest than is normal there are some ladies who post on [url]http://filipina4friends.com[/url]
They have names phone numbers and email adds but it never shows where they are from.
I've been in contact with one or two ladies from it but it never amounted to anything.
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For Mr D Cups
Your waiting is over. Proceed to asianhottie1982. Looks like she has everything that you need and more besides.!
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I think one thing that I have learned is that different guys have very different needs and ideas of optimal lives. I think it's all too easy for each one of us to assume that everyone has the same motivational set as we do.
Personally, I would share many of AV's concerns about the Phils as a retirement destination. In terms of property ownership and business the cards are very much stacked against you. The infrastructure is crumbling and compared with elsewhere in Asia it is a violent country. However were I say a 60 year old guy facing the prospect of early retirement in say Huddersfield or Pittsburg scrapping by on a modest pension and almost completely ignored by any female under 50, Phils would certainly have some serious attractions. The problems that you mention are the fundamental reason why incomes in the country have not been increasing at 10% pa like in the rest of Asia. But as those in say Thailand (which now has 2x the GDP/head), the inevitable impact of rising living standards is that hot 20s year olds are no longer keen to hang out with 60 year old guys except on prohibitively high short term rates.
If you are going to marry a Filipina you certainly have to chose wisely and especially try and avoid being picked to the bone by a ravenous family. There are examples of guys who have fallen into this trap, but also as GE has said examples of those who have probably had more fun in their retirement than in their previous 40 years.
Personally I don't feel ready for such a life and prefer a more itinerant lifestyle and shorter term relationships. Does that mean all such lifestyles are the same as AV suggests? Well in a sense they do all boil down to sex tourism / prostitution however IMHO much turns on a guys attitude towards women in general and Filipinas in particular. There are plenty of guys many of whom who have got seriously burned by failed relationships with women who whilst retaining a strong heterosexual sex drive are fundamentally misogynist and who treat all women with cynicism, contempt and suspicion. Others of us, have perhaps not had such negative experiences, have many good female friends and generally get on pretty well with women.[/QUOTE]
I agree with almost everything. Being a person who lives here and is considered retired, think one has to have a strategy before making a decision to live here. I know many expats here, and often it seems their strategy is more about leaving their home country (perhaps for good reasons), rather than what they will do when they live here. They came here on vacation, or as part of the military some years back, or "fell in love" with a Filipina, then they are counting the days, weeks months till they sell everything they have to move here.
First issue is having a means of financial support. Either a pension plan, investment income (from outside the country), or savings...you will not make enough money here to support any acceptable lifestyle. Saying this to most also, if you've not been saavy enough to run your own business and make money in your home country (other than being a wage slave to some company or organization), it is a thousand times harder here to make money as a small business owner. It is very very difficult to make money selling in the Philippines and quality control is an immense problem for exporting services or goods from the Philippines (not to mention theft and corruption). Delegation of authority and responsibility to most Filipino's in running your business does not work, so one has to be hands on in almost everything. They have almost zero capability to think ahead or plan, and very few can follow instructions without direct supervision.
Second issue is having a visa. There is an excellent system of getting a retirement visa, costs about $1,500 U.S. and one has to deposit permantly $20,000 (if over 50 years old) in a Philippines bank account (there are some differences based on investments in residential property, having a pension plan, etc). The organization is called the Philippine Retirement Authority (PRA). Vary rarily said in the same sentence with Philippine government organization, but if one follows the application procedures, the PRA is an extremly honest organization. So many come here without the capital or plan on getting a visa, then they have to pay extortion fees on renewal of a tourist visa every two months, or they run out of money and are over-stay. They can't settle for fear of getting caught, or use up their remaining savings buying their way out of jail when they do get caught. Others get a visa by way of marrying a Filipina, then when the marriage goes bad, or the wife gets mad, she can have your visa rescinded..in point of fact she owns you.
Third issue is what you will do with your time. Like the guy who buys the Caravan motor home upon retirement and it sits in his driveway and never used. Travelling around the Philippines (note: rough living in the provinces), is a very short term plan, easily within a year all will be seen. The bars and even the girls are fun when a tourist, but day in and day out, it gets old for most. Creating internet forums, being expat managers at various businesses, there is no money. One who spends like a tourist, generally runs out of money, because it is expensive if doing it seven days a week, 365 days a year. Can go live on the mountain or the provinces, but there is even less to do there than in the two or three major cities. Living is cheap, but so too in your home country if you never leave the house and eat rice and stinky fish. If you have plan on what to do, have friends, have a hobby or something, that is a major hurdle. In the alternative, many just become drunks moving from one cheap bar to another.
Fourth issue (probably not the last) is dealing with the Filippino's. Sooner or later one has to put their home country ideals behind them and learn how to deal with the girls, families and various externals that will greatly impact your life here. Two words are required... F..K Off!!! If one does not have the capability to take this to heart, then open your wallet and be prepared to spend. Girlfriend, her family, the yard boy, the housekeeper, various investment schemes (from both the Filippino and the cash starved expats), the local officials, police, government agencies, shop owners, the list goes on. One might and should at times say those two words a different way, a polite way, but the meaning is the same. The do's and don't's when dealing with the Filipino can fill books, but one has to harden their heart, or empty their wallet. This is a welfare state, and through various occupations, military bases, international grants, 40% of GDP from overseas workers sending money back, and no well paying jobs, the people are culturally programed to get what they can for the least amount of effort. Many think girls work in P4P because of economic hardship, an alternative equally powerful reason is that it is basically easy work with a high pay. The families support their daughters doing this work, because again it is good income with the least amount of effort. Of course poverity plays a major role, but with almost zero work ethic in the culture, naturally they are poor.
I am not insistent that one should not retire here, as stated, I have and for the most part like my life here. But it is not easy here, and just because beer and barfines are cheap does not mean living is cheap. Want quality in anything, you are going to pay. (I am still in search of a door knob that does not break in six months or plumbing that does not fall apart monthly).
Without a joke, have to go now, my girlfriend just text me, she needs money to send home to mama, 4,000 peso should do so she says (that's about $100 U.S. at current exchange rates). She is a good girl, she only asks once a month. Last girl friend wanted that much a week for mama...guess what I told her?
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[QUOTE=Matius] Others get a visa by way of marrying a Filipina, then when the marriage goes bad, or the wife gets mad, she can have your visa rescinded..in point of fact she owns you.[/QUOTE]
Nice summary of the problems facing the retiree on moving to The Philippines. I would, however, point out that, unless things have changed drastically recently, marriage to a Filipina does not get you a long term visa. If you live outside The Philippines and visit accompanied by your wife, you can get what is known as a balikbayan visa which is good for a year. But there are rules regarding qualifying length of time outside of PI and they seem to be more strictly adhered to recently.
I have given up living full time in The Philippines as the place was driving me crackers. So now that I have more or less retired, I divide my time, spending 5-6 months of the European winter here and the rest of the year either travelling or in my home country. But, of course, you have to have sufficient pension/investment income to be able to do this.
Whilst in the Philippines, I see myself in rest mode, spending my time doing all those things that I don't have time to do the rest of the year. I seem to be busy enough although the fact that I contribute frequently to this forum does suggest that I have plenty of spare time on my hands;).
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[QUOTE=Matius]Want quality in anything, you are going to pay. (I am still in search of a door knob that does not break in six months or plumbing that does not fall apart monthly).
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Very good post Matius.. I frequently hear expats fantasizing about "cheap living" in a cheap country.. truth is, you get what you pay for. If you want cheap, you live in shit like the locals.. if you want western quality, you pay western prices for it.
And some things you cant get at any price.. for example clean air and fast transportation.
For you older folks considering retiring here.. you'll have to put up with a mountain of shit for the sake of getting cheap pussy.. think hard if it's worth it... I dont think it is
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Your waiting is over. Proceed to asianhottie1982. Looks like she has everything that you need and more besides.![/QUOTE]
Scam.. look at the photo.. there is a red photoshopped contour around the head
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Investment Schemes
[QUOTE=Matius]....... various investment schemes (from both the Filippino and the cash starved expats), .....
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Wonderful post Matius: should be required reading for anyone contemplating retirement in the Phils. As a highly experienced finance professional, I wanted to comment on your reference to investment schemes, especially as a friend of mine contemplating retirement in the Phils was talking to me about a scheme recommended by a buddy of his which promised exceptional returns for very low risk.
My warning to others is the same as my warning to him. Be VERY VERY wary of such schemes. The fundamental axiom of financial theory is that expected return varies with risk. If someone is offering you a scheme or account which promises returns way above the "risk free" return from say Government Bonds, be very suspicious that it is not as risk free as promoted. Investors with Bernie Madoff forgot this Golden Rule and ended up $50 billion poorer. Things can go swimmingly well for such schemes until they don't - in often a disastrous way. Another rule - the more earnestly a scheme is being marketed, the more someone is taking commission - out of your investment income. Unless you really know what you are doing in terms of finance the two rules that I would recommend following are. 1 Diversify your bets by investing in a range of stocks / currencies / commodities and other assets. 2 Seek to minimise the annual fees/commissions you are paying out
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Wonderful post Matius: should be required reading for anyone contemplating retirement in the Phils. As a highly experienced finance professional, I wanted to comment on your reference to investment schemes, especially as a friend of mine contemplating retirement in the Phils was talking to me about a scheme recommended by a buddy of his which promised exceptional returns for very low risk.
My warning to others is the same as my warning to him. Be VERY VERY wary of such schemes. The fundamental axiom of financial theory is that expected return varies with risk. If someone is offering you a scheme or account which promises returns way above the "risk free" return from say Government Bonds, be very suspicious that it is not as risk free as promoted. Investors with Bernie Madoff forgot this Golden Rule and ended up $50 billion poorer. Things can go swimmingly well for such schemes until they don't. In often a disastrous way. Another rule. The more earnestly a scheme is being marketed, the more someone is taking commission. Out of your investment income. Unless you really know what you are doing in terms of finance the two rules that I would recommend following are. 1 Diversify your bets by investing in a range of stocks / currencies / commodities and other assets. 2 Seek to minimise the annual fees/commissions you are paying out[/QUOTE]Or to make it shorter " whats too good to be true, usually is! "
Theres an English guy who works from Clark, who offers a few interesting and few exotic investments. Most are connected to some of the larger finance houses but hes offered some good schemes and provides a good service to expats. I've only purchased form him once but it worked out fine. And no this isn't an endorsement, more just providing info.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Scam.. look at the photo.. there is a red photoshopped contour around the head[/QUOTE]Oh well. It was a nice pic.
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Investment Schemes
GL, as an experienced professional in the financial arena, would you agree or disagree that the banking system abides by the same principle, that is returns at about the same rate as government bonds?
Or are they looking for much higher?
It seems that the major banks in Australia are making filthy large amounts of profits which seem disproportionate to risk.
Comment?
G
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Costs of Living
Matius, I was very impressed with your analysis.
However you seem to have lost track of the costs of living in western countries.
I am Australian. The fastest rising costs that affect me are charges for water, electricity and government charges.
They are rising fast, and are expected to accelerate.
For example, before I move to the Phils, I need to sell two urban properties. The annual taxes that I presently pay on these amounts to 22,000 pesos per month. So the sale of these will mean that I have an extra 22k pesos which should nicely pay my rent.
G
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Returns
[QUOTE=Gangles]GL, as an experienced professional in the financial arena, would you agree or disagree that the banking system abides by the same principle, that is returns at about the same rate as government bonds?
Or are they looking for much higher?
It seems that the major banks in Australia are making filthy large amounts of profits which seem disproportionate to risk.
Comment?
G[/QUOTE]
Apologies for an off topic post.
I would say that from an investor's perspective banking stocks are high risk investments. The essence of banking is that you earn a modest profit margin in return for taking a very large but low probability downside (default of the borrower). The idea is that by making millions of loans this risk is diversified away and becomes manageable with statistically predictable default rates. The problem is that defaults are highly correlated with each other, when economies get sucked into exuberant bubbles huge amounts of debt is piled on which it is very difficult/impossible for borrowers to repay once the party ends and the bubble bursts. Banks have found it extraordinarily difficult to cope with such risks in part because whilst the party is in full swing the decision making employees are paid according to the short term profits ignoring the medium term risks. Of course it is the job of government regulators to try to ensure that the party doesn't get out of hand and the banks exercise restraint. In both Australia and Canada the regulators did a pretty good job of this. Whereas in the US, UK and much of Continental Europe they failed miserably. The result is that a couple of years of losses effectively wipe out a century of banking profits. Of course what has happened is that in order to prevent complete financial meltdown, Governments have effectively transferred much of this bad debt to the public sector where it will eventually be dealt with either through taxation or devaluing the currency, so that in many cases bank investors obtained a "Get out of Jail" card. This is even true of the Australian banks which despite being relatively well regulated at home are inevitably so entwined with the global financial system that they would probably also have gone down had the US, UK and Europeans allowed AIG, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, and a dozen major banks to fail.
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[QUOTE=Matius]I agree with almost everything. Being a person who lives here and is considered retired, think one has to have a strategy before making a decision to live here. I know many expats here, and often it seems their strategy is more about leaving their home country (perhaps for good reasons), rather than what they will do when they live here. They came here on vacation, or as part of the military some years back, or "fell in love" with a Filipina, then they are counting the days, weeks months till they sell everything they have to move here.
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Very well said Matius...The points you mentioned are true for young guys also. Being born in a third world country and moving to another..I will say this...the whole system from India to PH is corrupt..and everything in between.
Some may not like what i'm going to say now. If you want to enjoy living in a third world country...you better have some shady black money with you...trust me the whole system is designed to benefit the corrupt and immorals...If you plan to work 9-5 in corporate slavery in the west and plan to live a life of king in the east forget it....
Unless you made your fortune with not so good ways...you are always going to struggle here after sometime...Only money matters here...90% of the local folks who make money in a third world country are doing it by beating the system and bribing the laws away...the system is designed to benefit the rich who make money with corrupt ways.
Your 9-5 savings would not be enough to beat the system here...
I fully understand the standard of the west...but unfortunately it ain't gonna work here.....the system works towards rich...not for the law..the game is rigged here...its unfair for the folks who make money with sincere means and wants to go high up in life...it is impossible to make it on top for 99% of the time with sincere efforts..what we see on media is just a cover story the reality is totally opposite....the mafia rules the third world countries like Africa is ruled by war lords.
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Would you please clarify? I may be misinformed. I thought marriage to Filipina allowed you to get a resident long term visa? You sure it does not? Why was the Phil driving you crazy, what was it about the place you could not take?
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Nice summary of the problems facing the retiree on moving to The Philippines. I would, however, point out that, unless things have changed drastically recently, marriage to a Filipina does not get you a long term visa. If you live outside The Philippines and visit accompanied by your wife, you can get what is known as a balikbayan visa which is good for a year. But there are rules regarding qualifying length of time outside of PI and they seem to be more strictly adhered to recently.
I have given up living full time in The Philippines as the place was driving me crackers. So now that I have more or less retired, I divide my time, spending 5-6 months of the European winter here and the rest of the year either travelling or in my home country. But, of course, you have to have sufficient pension/investment income to be able to do this.
Whilst in the Philippines, I see myself in rest mode, spending my time doing all those things that I don't have time to do the rest of the year. I seem to be busy enough although the fact that I contribute frequently to this forum does suggest that I have plenty of spare time on my hands;).[/QUOTE]
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Not so fast...
Living costs are higher in western countries, but in western countries, you can EARN money. You can't, not legally in Phil. Also u cannot own land, or house or most businesses as foreigner. Even if you do clear any foreigner hurdles in starting a business expect there to be a line at your door looking for bribes and anyone who is pissed off at you maybe trying to get u deported? Starting a business in the Phil is a long drawn out process also, with hefty fees and alot of bureacracy along the way-if u want to do it legally that is.
Also electric is nearly as high maybe even higher as in usa-their rates just went up and you have frequent power outtages so figure an additional 2-4 thousand dollars for a generator. Unlikely your medical insurance will be any good there, so figure on paying up front for any medical care. Also you don't have to pay $60-$70USD every two months to stay in the country and travel costs when u have to leave to renew after 18mos, not to mention the hassle.
Also you don't have filipinas with extended families and others with their hands out. In western countries ur not expected to help the extended family.
[QUOTE=Gangles]Matius, I was very impressed with your analysis.
However you seem to have lost track of the costs of living in western countries.
I am Australian. The fastest rising costs that affect me are charges for water, electricity and government charges.
They are rising fast, and are expected to accelerate.
For example, before I move to the Phils, I need to sell two urban properties. The annual taxes that I presently pay on these amounts to 22,000 pesos per month. So the sale of these will mean that I have an extra 22k pesos which should nicely pay my rent.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Would you please clarify? I may be misinformed. I thought marriage to Filipina allowed you to get a resident long term visa? You sure it does not? .........[/QUOTE]
I am afraid CS got it wrong.
I have a permanent visa 13a gained immediately after I married my filipina wife in 2006.
No hassles and no worries.
I just need to rock up to the BoI between Jan 1 and March 30 each year, do my "foreigner resident in the PI" report, pay 310 pesos and I am good for another year
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Clarification
I am not suggesting the "market basket" of Filipino goods are more expensive than the "market basket" of American, Australian or European goods. I can cite example after example of buying in the Philippines is cheaper than other countries. Take cigarettes, they are about 40 peso a pack (about $1 U.S.), but Marlboro Lights here are made with crap tobacco that has you coughing a lung out. What I am suggesting is that people talk about costs here, without a consideration of the quality they receive. See these forums talk about apartments for 4,000 peso or 8,000 peso per month (that is about $100 to $200 per month), but I won't live in them. My apartment costs $30,000 peso per month. That is about $700 per month. For that I get air conditioning, hot water, a semi modern kitchen and bathrooms, with swimming pool. Yes, cheaper than many countries, but its not $100 per month. You want to buy your fish for dinner in the open market, with the flies and bugs crawling all over them or are you going to buy in a store with some sort of hygene. I can buy cheap Filipino goods (actually most manufactured product is cheap Chinese goods), but the quality and repair is a major factor. My point is that one has to do some analysis of the lifestyle they expect and the true cost to get it here. Can't just look at the price of beer and P..sy.
I don't know about marriage visa. THANK GOD!!!! I just know guys who have gotten stiched up by their ex when she had their visa revoked. Its extortion, you pay the money I want, or I have your visa revoked. To me nothing is permanent if the wife can pull you up by the short hairs. Not even getting into your being evicted from the family home, her keeping all of your furniture and assets, filing false charges against you for physical abuse. Recommend you don't get married. Get married so you can get a visa to the Philippines, laughable.
There was some sound advice about investment strategies and returns. Think it was a general statement, so allow me to add the Philippine caveat. There is no return on investment in the Philippines, large or small. Anyone here that is trying to sell you something on a return basis, be aware you will lose money. Don't look at those few foreigners who make money here, there is a whole lot of connections, relationships and background stuff that none of you will have. Further, when the guy who claims to have all these connections, relationships and background stuff is going to "let you in" on his wonderful investment....run fast, as the only return will be made by him. You will lose...period. So many will not take this to heart, because they are smarter than the other guy. People here do make a good living off the "smarter" guy.
Now all this sounds negative, don't really mean it that way. I am happy here, have a good life and have no desire to leave. It is though a minefield, and we can speak of how beautiful the grass is, or how to avoid being blown up. You cannot retire here with $20,000 of savings, unless you have only 12 months to live. If you are a young guy, make your living in a developed country, then retire here, you will not make your fortune here. For most, this is a tourist destination, the flowers are in full bloom (if you know what I mean), come here, enjoy and then go home to your life.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Would you please clarify? I may be misinformed. I thought marriage to Filipina allowed you to get a resident long term visa? You sure it does not? Why was the Phil driving you crazy, what was it about the place you could not take?[/QUOTE]
Whoops, looks like I'm talking out my arse again:D.
I think any westerner who lives here for any extended period of time and who say that they dont get mightily sick of the place is either a liar or a flatliner. The place has a way of getting way under your skin, like a chronic skin infection. This is particularly the case when you are foolish enough, like me, to base yourself in Manila. Its a combination of factors varying from the weather and pollution to the all pervasive stink of urban decay, poverty and corruption to the shortage of things like good restaurants and cultural events. You want to catch a play or a good band in concert or a sporting event that isnt held indoors with 2 hoops, a ball and some tall guys
then its tough shit.
Put it like this
honestly how many of us would put up with the place long term if it wasnt for the compensations which brought most of us here in the first instance.
Funny thing is though, that when Im away for any length of time I do start to miss the place, and not only for the easy availability of willing young pussy. But, for the good of my health (and because I can), I will now restrict my visits to a few months of each year and at the best time weather wise which is from about now until March. I always hated the hot and the rainy seasons (the rest of the year) in any case.
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Returns
GL's discussion of the profitability of the banking sector is off the mark.
While the general adage of return is proportionate to risk applies to most investments, it does not do so in the banking industry.
When the banks were about to go belly up during the GFC, the taxpayer stepped in and guaranteed and/or bailed out the banks. So the bank actually carries zero risk - at the gross business level.
This has prompted a lively discussion in Australia about the degree of profit that banks should be able to make. The concept is that since the taxpayer carries the risk for the bank, then the taxpayer has become a latent partner in the bank, and should be rewarded appropriately. That is, modest interest rates for loans and modest rates of return for the bank.
It is an interesting debate. Worth following.
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Not For Games
Here is a lively conversation I just had with a "not for games" girl.. good to know there are still well mannered girls with a solid catholic upbringing and family moral values :)
Lily: so what are you plan tonyt?
FastBuckArtist: want to go out? where do I meet you
Lily: with my friend...please
FastBuckArtist: why you want to bring other people
Lily: coz they are horny now.. so you try 3 some thats more fun dont be shy..its a normal
FastBuckArtist: lol I am not shy.. I am just not in the mood for a groupie tonight. can I just meet you?
Lily: so i come there now?
FastBuckArtist: give me half an hour.. I need to take a shower
Lily: ok...you pay me na?
FastBuckArtist: I have 2000 here.. are you happy with that? and dinner and drinks are on me on top of that ;)
Lily: can u make it 2200? coz my taxi pay..
FastBuckArtist: I'll come get you no need for taxi.. just tell me where to pick you up
Lily: i finish eat no need to pay me for the food...make it cash all
FastBuckArtist: geez.. you are so professional.. feel like I am bargaining for a used motorbike
Lily: your right hehehe im frunkly
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"Frunkly" indeed lol.. this one can truly say she is "not for games" haha... strictly business :| what a fine well brought up 19 year old
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Here is a lively conversation I just had with a "not for games" girl.. good to know there are still well mannered girls with a solid catholic upbringing and family moral values :)
Lily: so what are you plan tonyt?
FastBuckArtist: want to go out? where do I meet you
Lily: with my friend...please
FastBuckArtist: why you want to bring other people
Lily: coz they are horny now.. so you try 3 some thats more fun dont be shy..its a normal
FastBuckArtist: lol I am not shy.. I am just not in the mood for a groupie tonight. can I just meet you?
Lily: so i come there now?
FastBuckArtist: give me half an hour.. I need to take a shower
Lily: ok...you pay me na?
FastBuckArtist: I have 2000 here.. are you happy with that? and dinner and drinks are on me on top of that ;)
Lily: can u make it 2200? coz my taxi pay..
FastBuckArtist: I'll come get you no need for taxi.. just tell me where to pick you up
Lily: i finish eat no need to pay me for the food...make it cash all
FastBuckArtist: geez.. you are so professional.. feel like I am bargaining for a used motorbike
Lily: your right hehehe im frunkly
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"Frunkly" indeed lol.. this one can truly say she is "not for games" haha... strictly business :| what a fine well brought up 19 year old[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a real virgin to me, quite frunkly! lol
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I am afraid CS got it wrong.
I have a permanent visa 13a gained immediately after I married my filipina wife in 2006.
No hassles and no worries.
I just need to rock up to the BoI between Jan 1 and March 30 each year, do my "foreigner resident in the PI" report, pay 310 pesos and I am good for another year[/QUOTE]
Thanks much for the clarification. I thought what he said was incorrect also.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Whoops, looks like I'm talking out my arse again:D.
I think any westerner who lives here for any extended period of time and who say that they dont get mightily sick of the place is either a liar or a flatliner. The place has a way of getting way under your skin, like a chronic skin infection. This is particularly the case when you are foolish enough, like me, to base yourself in Manila. Its a combination of factors varying from the weather and pollution to the all pervasive stink of urban decay, poverty and corruption to the shortage of things like good restaurants and cultural events. You want to catch a play or a good band in concert or a sporting event that isnt held indoors with 2 hoops, a ball and some tall guys
then its tough shit.
Put it like this
honestly how many of us would put up with the place long term if it wasnt for the compensations which brought most of us here in the first instance.
Funny thing is though, that when Im away for any length of time I do start to miss the place, and not only for the easy availability of willing young pussy. But, for the good of my health (and because I can), I will now restrict my visits to a few months of each year and at the best time weather wise which is from about now until March. I always hated the hot and the rainy seasons (the rest of the year) in any case.[/QUOTE]
Well you're not alone for sure. I have a friend who tried to live there twice and could not hack it. I also had a friend who had a successful biz in Manila that got so sick of all the bribes and delays he move out lock stock and barrel to the Fiji Islands and his much happier with his biz there.
As I said previously many mongers on one Thai board assured me that of all the countries in SE Asia, the Phil would be the LAST on their list of places to live.
But as you stated, if you want the comforts of home you're not going to find that with the cheap and willing young girls. Pick one, you won't get both, unless your filthy rich that is and they will only be cheap in comparison to your very large bank account.
It's really a pity though that the Phil is not a better place for foreigners to live. I guess one reason is they don't want foreigners usurping their country. It's not much but it's theirs.
I am speculating that maybe the reason you miss the place is that you remember the cheap poon and forget all the other crap that comes with it?
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[QUOTE=Matius]I am not suggesting the "market basket" of Filipino goods are more expensive than the "market basket" of American, Australian or European goods. I can cite example after example of buying in the Philippines is cheaper than other countries. Take cigarettes, they are about 40 peso a pack (about $1 U.S.), but Marlboro Lights here are made with crap tobacco that has you coughing a lung out. What I am suggesting is that people talk about costs here, without a consideration of the quality they receive. See these forums talk about apartments for 4,000 peso or 8,000 peso per month (that is about $100 to $200 per month), but I won't live in them. My apartment costs $30,000 peso per month. That is about $700 per month. For that I get air conditioning, hot water, a semi modern kitchen and bathrooms, with swimming pool. Yes, cheaper than many countries, but its not $100 per month. You want to buy your fish for dinner in the open market, with the flies and bugs crawling all over them or are you going to buy in a store with some sort of hygene. I can buy cheap Filipino goods (actually most manufactured product is cheap Chinese goods), but the quality and repair is a major factor. My point is that one has to do some analysis of the lifestyle they expect and the true cost to get it here. Can't just look at the price of beer and P..sy.
I don't know about marriage visa. THANK GOD!!!! I just know guys who have gotten stiched up by their ex when she had their visa revoked. Its extortion, you pay the money I want, or I have your visa revoked. To me nothing is permanent if the wife can pull you up by the short hairs. Not even getting into your being evicted from the family home, her keeping all of your furniture and assets, filing false charges against you for physical abuse. Recommend you don't get married. Get married so you can get a visa to the Philippines, laughable.
There was some sound advice about investment strategies and returns. Think it was a general statement, so allow me to add the Philippine caveat. There is no return on investment in the Philippines, large or small. Anyone here that is trying to sell you something on a return basis, be aware you will lose money. Don't look at those few foreigners who make money here, there is a whole lot of connections, relationships and background stuff that none of you will have. Further, when the guy who claims to have all these connections, relationships and background stuff is going to "let you in" on his wonderful investment....run fast, as the only return will be made by him. You will lose...period. So many will not take this to heart, because they are smarter than the other guy. People here do make a good living off the "smarter" guy.
Now all this sounds negative, don't really mean it that way. I am happy here, have a good life and have no desire to leave. It is though a minefield, and we can speak of how beautiful the grass is, or how to avoid being blown up. You cannot retire here with $20,000 of savings, unless you have only 12 months to live. If you are a young guy, make your living in a developed country, then retire here, you will not make your fortune here. For most, this is a tourist destination, the flowers are in full bloom (if you know what I mean), come here, enjoy and then go home to your life.[/QUOTE]
Would you care to elaborate on what you mean by getting "stiched up" by some filipina you're married to? I don't know maybe your referring to the case where the filipina claims ur abusing her or breaking some phil law? That might be grounds for revocation. But simply revoking based on her say so? Seems hard to fanthom even by Phil standards. Sure if you marry a lying , unscrupulous little c*nt, but that's your bad judgement coming back at you, no?
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Stiched Up
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Would you care to elaborate on what you mean by getting "stiched up" by some filipina you're married to? I don't know maybe your referring to the case where the filipina claims ur abusing her or breaking some phil law? That might be grounds for revocation. But simply revoking based on her say so? Seems hard to fanthom even by Phil standards. Sure if you marry a lying , unscrupulous little c*nt, but that's your bad judgement coming back at you, no?[/QUOTE]
I understand this may seem unreal, but let's start with this premise. The Philippines is the only country in my experience, that actually writes into law, different violations and penalties for foreigners versus citizens. Check out the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] laws for the Philippines. Similar laws in regards to women.
Now the reality, as a foreigner in the Philippines, you have no rights. The police and judicial system is totally corrupt. When it comes down to you versus a Filipino/a, you lose. Let's assume you get shot, nothing more than an innocent victim, but you are not dead. You will find even if they catch the person, he will probably get off by paying a small fee to you, or will do very light jail time. I assume he has some sort of basic connections. This is a real life situation, not a hypothetical.
Forget the laws also. My experience has been, whenever we are speaking of ex-wives, women scorned, or husbands that have been unfaithful, break up a relationship..most if not all become c.nts. If it comes between them going back and living in the squatters huts and your keeping your assets, or them extorting you to maintain their lifestyle, guarantee what will happen.
Let's assume you did nothing. Let's assume you caught her cheating on you with her Filipino trike driver boyfriend. You want to break up, but there is no law allowing divorce. So you have to try to get an annullment, which can take years. She comes after you with an abuse charge, maybe groundless, maybe you have evidence to support your position, but with the charge comes jail. You can bail, but the police want 300,000 peso to let you out (they can make up any amount they want). You say that is too much, so you sit in jail, in a cell designed for eight they have 35 people, can't even sit. Ok you get through that. The legal system can take years, there is no fast track (again unless you have a lot of money and connections). Example: if the prosecution fails to come to court three consecutive times, then the case is dismissed. But if the prosecution comes on the third time, and asks for a continuance (which will always be granted against a foreigner), they have two more times they can miss. Repeat the third appearance and request for continuance, over and over again. This alone can go on forever. It takes at least a month for each appearance, if you fail to show you lose, so you are paying lawyers and associated costs forever. If you've not made bail, then god help you. Another real life experience.
Assume you get your annullment, your visa is tied to your being married. But see you aren't married anymore, by definition an annullment means you never were married, so you have no right to a visa. Another real life experience.
And here is an even funnier quirk. If you have charges filed against you in the Philippines, you can't leave the Philippines until the charges are resolved. So you don't have a visa to live in the Philppines, but you can't leave. Immigration picks you up every six months for being illegal, extorts money from you, then lets you go for another six months. Or the bail is revoked on the charges, because you violated it by being illegal, so back in jail on that occurance. Of course by law you can fight this injustice, but you are in jail..remember the living conditions. Another real life experience.
My advice is to not get married if you plan to live here in the Philippines. Marry the girl in your home country and live there, you at least got a rule of law, I would guess. Again, marry to get a visa, not a smart idea.
For most living here, they avoid getting tangled up in the police or legal system. Outside of a couple hundred peso when pulled over by the traffic police. They are not hauling every foreigner into the jail, or revoking his visa, but if you give someone a reason to come after you, then these things can and do happen on a very regular basis. As a general rule, money will be the motivation, either the police, judicial system or your woman.
Finally the same can be said for putting any type of property or business in the name of your woman or your woman's family. Consider it a gift, because you will only be allowed to use it as long as your relationship is maintained. After that, it is hers. And a final real life experience.
So many get stiched up here, in business, in assets, in love, in mongering, as stated earlier because they are smarter than the other guy. It won't happen to them. I don't know any guy who willingly goes out and marry's a lying, stealing, c.nt. Neither one who invests huge sums of money on the belief they will lose all. There are ways to do many things here, but most will not know how to do them, they will not have the connections, neither will they have the capital reserves to protect themselves.
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[QUOTE=Matius]I understand this may seem unreal, but let's start with this premise. The Philippines is the only country in my experience, that actually writes into law, different violations and penalties for foreigners versus citizens. Check out the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] laws for the Philippines. Similar laws in regards to women.[/QUOTE]And nowadays everything gets stitched into [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] including Employment Agents who didn't pay the right amount to the immigration authorities.
[QUOTE]Now the reality, as a foreigner in the Philippines, you have no rights. The police and judicial system is totally corrupt. When it comes down to you versus a Filipino/a, you lose. Let's assume you get shot, nothing more than an innocent victim, but you are not dead. You will find even if they catch the person, he will probably get off by paying a small fee to you, or will do very light jail time. I assume he has some sort of basic connections. This is a real life situation, not a hypothetical.[/QUOTE]Not going to say nothing. You are 100%. Make it 1000% correct.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Would you care to elaborate on what you mean by getting "stiched up" by some filipina you're married to? I don't know maybe your referring to the case where the filipina claims ur abusing her or breaking some phil law? That might be grounds for revocation. But simply revoking based on her say so? Seems hard to fanthom even by Phil standards. Sure if you marry a lying , unscrupulous little c*nt, but that's your bad judgement coming back at you, no?[/QUOTE]Mate,
You don't need to follow up with a court case etc. etc. (which only happens in Western / Developed countries .. ) - an accusing finger is all it is needed.
Maybe you choose to associate such mess wiht lying/unscrupulous little c**ts .. but the reality is far far away .. I know a guy, Filipino, who is an engineer, and married to an engineer, and the wife one day decided she needed a break and she filed a case of physical abuse and before even the due process took place, the guy was arrested upon his return from Malaysia, and placed into custody .. Not gonna get into details, the couple - who are my friends, are educated / intelligent and not the type fucking around and loyal as hell to each other.
And one more - a Brit Friend, of mine, married to a Civil Engineer - the wife suspected the husband of having another wife in China - where he spends atleast every other week due to his ongoing projects - and the wife too has been in China but preferred to do her existing consultancy in Makati - so the wife filed a case of "breach of trust" (God Bless me if I figure out how it turned out as breach of trust) and the guy was declared PNG - and he lost all he had bought, and more.
Be careful - very careful.
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Sobering
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]..
But as you stated, if you want the comforts of home you're not going to find that with the cheap and willing young girls. Pick one, you won't get both, unless your filthy rich that is and they will only be cheap in comparison to your very large bank account.
It's really a pity though that the Phil is not a better place for foreigners to live. I guess one reason is they don't want foreigners usurping their country. It's not much but it's theirs.
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Some very sobering thoughts from Matius. I agree that marrying a Filipina if you are planning to live in the Phils is a high risk strategy. As to TCO's question, I think the key thing to understand is that the Phils is that for the small number of very wealthy , well connected clans, who effectively control the country, excluding foreigners from the party makes huge sense. Then you get to own anything worth owning. For the vast majority of Filipinos it's not good news as it stifles economic activity and with that decent paid jobs etc.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I think the key thing to understand is that the Phils is that for the small number of very wealthy , well connected clans, who effectively control the country, excluding foreigners from the party makes huge sense. Then you get to own anything worth owning. For the vast majority of Filipinos it's not good news as it stifles economic activity and with that decent paid jobs etc.[/QUOTE]
Philippines is basically a feudal serfdom with about 100 families of landlords owning 90% of the assets in the country, and using church and army to keep it that way.. parlament is 100% owned by the said landlords and its job is to pass laws preventing anybody, either local peasant or foreigner, from upsetting the status quo.
The sad shmucks would rather be lords of the sewer than equal men in a prosperous country.. this shit makes you realise why the french invented the guillotine 300 years ago.
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Very discouraging; don't forget the jealousy factor
[QUOTE=Econo Tech]Mate,
You don't need to follow up with a court case etc. etc. (which only happens in Western / Developed countries .. ) - an accusing finger is all it is needed.
Maybe you choose to associate such mess wiht lying/unscrupulous little c**ts .. but the reality is far far away .. I know a guy, Filipino, who is an engineer, and married to an engineer, and the wife one day decided she needed a break and she filed a case of physical abuse and before even the due process took place, the guy was arrested upon his return from Malaysia, and placed into custody .. Not gonna get into details, the couple - who are my friends, are educated / intelligent and not the type fucking around and loyal as hell to each other.
And one more - a Brit Friend, of mine, married to a Civil Engineer - the wife suspected the husband of having another wife in China - where he spends atleast every other week due to his ongoing projects - and the wife too has been in China but preferred to do her existing consultancy in Makati - so the wife filed a case of "breach of trust" (God Bless me if I figure out how it turned out as breach of trust) and the guy was declared PNG - and he lost all he had bought, and more.
Be careful - very careful.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your assessment.
It is depressing that I may not be able to make the Phil work for me as a retirement destination. This thread only confirms my pessimissim about the Country. Every one has been quite negative about the status of foreigners in the Philippines, but none have offered specific ideas on how to counteract this, other than to come, spread your seed and leave, lieing low and only engaging in tourist type activites.
In reading about the Phil, it seems that their whole culture is based mostly on kissing up to the right people, with the understanding that one hand is obligated to wash the other and that family comes first. This family part is a little hard to believe considering how many broken families there are there. The whole system kind of smells to high heaven, no real values, its only who you know and how much money you have. The women there often are proclaiming their religious virtuosity, but I have found the ones that advertise the most usually offer the least (BTW, what the hell does "god-fearing" actually mean in practical terms?)
Also, the question naturally arises: Is this uneven playing field for foreigners equally true in other 3rd world sh*tholes, as in Central and S. America, Thailand, Cambodia, etc? For those of you who have lived for any length of time in these countries, it would be interesting to hear your comparisons to the Phil in terms of the unjust and disadvantageous environment for foreigners. While this thread is not directly about finding poon in the R.P. I think it is very important to understand how their system works in order to be successful in mongering activities also.
In my case, have been all over Mexico and have had no problems as a tourist, but I wonder how many I would have as a permanent resident. The Mexican authorities have mostly impressed me as being respectful of Americans, but I wonder if this would change as a resident. This, of course, is talking about Mexico PRIOR to the drug war. Since the drug wars I have not set foot in Mexico and would only consider flying to some of the southern towns that do not have alot of drug conflicts.
Maybe this is the reason people want to come to the USA. One of the few countries where by law they are mostly treated equally, although this too is changing.
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While I agree with most of the assessments of the total absurdity of this country, and while the horror stories about foreigners being handily severed from their possessions are true, the place can serve as an excellent retirement destination. Retiring here allows most of us to live a far better lifestyle than would have been possible in our own countries, and it's really not very difficult to avoid the major pitfalls by adhering to a few simple rules:
1. Don't buy real property, not a condo, not a house in someone else's name, under any circumstances no matter how sweet the deal. That is of course, unless you can afford to walk away from it all with no fincanial recompense. Rentals are reasonable and you can easily find appropriate accommodations.
2. Don't go into business no matter how lucrative, how "can't miss," or how much of "sure thing" it appears.
3. Keep your money in your own country-- the States, Canada, somewhere in Europe, Australia or wherever. You can access it easily through ATMs and the Internet so no need to keep any assets here.
4. Establish some reasonably close relationships with other expats living in your area, particularly those who have lived there for a few years and who can steer you away from precarious situations.
5. During the first year or two, avoid relationships with locals who claim to be "connected," or who can allegedly "help" you cause they're your friends. Check these guys out with expats who have been here a while.
6. Fly under the radar. That is, don't call attention to yourself, get into
fractious altercations with the locals, insult people, or otherwise act like a belligerent foreigner.
7. Be respectful to the women you meet, be they casual playmates or friends of longer duration, and be honest with them. Do not give them cause to feel used, abused or offended. Do not humiliate them, especially in public.
8. Buy a car and use it in lieu of local transport and/or taxis, thereby avoiding making yourself a target.
9. Do not let the corruption, inefficiency and greed get to you. This is not your country and you're here to enjoy a reasonable life, and not to reform society.
Simple rules, and easy to follow. Life here can be excellent.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]...................... This thread only confirms my pessimissim about the Country. Every one has been quite negative about the status of foreigners in the Philippines, but none have offered specific ideas on how to counteract this, other than to come, spread your seed and leave, lieing low and only engaging in tourist type activites.
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I guess I should add a smidgen of input to what has already been posted.
I came here in 1997 for a 3-month assignment that expanded into 3 years and now, almost 14 years later, I am still here.
I bought my own condo in 2006 because I realised that I could have bought at least 2 additional condos with what I had spent over 9 years on very expensive rent. I am living and working here on a foreign salary. My work takes me out of the country to other parts of SE Asia around 3 times each year.
My wife and I co-own the condo. I have excellent legal advice in all matters. I keep a greater proportion of my salary in an Australian bank account only because I am nervous about banks based here, although my bank, HSBC, is probably less risky than others.
I have an excellent lifestyle; good central condo, walking distance to 4 big malls in Ortigas; my office is both in my condo or 10 mins walk away depending where I need to be.
Restaurants are excellent; I can get to Makati easily to meet any expat mates, and I can fly off to Singapore, HK, Thailand at short notice and be there in a few hours.
Over 14 years I agree that I ride an emotional roller-coaster, sometimes daily, but, overall, I am glad I decided to settle here and I plan to stay.
If I was here ONLY for bars and cheap girls / beer/ food I would have gone crazy many years ago. If you settle here you MUST have a major interest to occupy your mind. In my case it is work, but I plan to split this between golf and work in the near future.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Every one has been quite negative about the status of foreigners in the Philippines, but none have offered specific ideas on how to counteract this, other than to come, spread your seed and leave, lieing low and only engaging in tourist type activites.[/QUOTE]
My advice is simple.. Do Not Own Any Assets in the Philippines. The only asset I have here is a used car. I rent both my house and my office space. Keep your capital in countries that respect property rights.. Switzerland or Singapore.
If you do have assets in the Philippines, you need powerful friends, and they are only your friends as long as you pay them (generously!).
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Moderation
[quote=turdycurdyone]thanks for your assessment.
it is depressing that i may not be able to make the phil work for me as a retirement destination. this thread only confirms my pessimissim about the country. every one has been quite negative about the status of foreigners in the philippines, but none have offered specific ideas on how to counteract this, other than to come, spread your seed and leave, lieing low and only engaging in tourist type activites. .....
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sometimes we have to stress the implications of false thinking, because so many fail to heed advice that is often repeated. the advice is not to dissuade you from retiring in the philippines, rather to help you avoid some of the traps some fall into.
corruption works both ways. get caught speeding in australia more than a couple of times, you can lose your license for a significant period of time, and you may have only been going a few k over the speed limit. here, a few hundred peso and no ticket, no record, no loss of points.
no meaningful tax assesors here, a few peso to the agent, no tax. anything can be bought here with the right incentive money.
once you get through the frustration of filipino workers, one can build a house here for signficantly less money than in most home countries.
there are a great number of expats living here. most have no problem and most have learned how to work within the system. its not that hard, you get other expat friends and they help you.
the best way to do it, is if you are retiring, spend some months here and get to know some other locals, before making a final decision. if i was part of making it sound like your life would be under siege from the moment of landing it was not intended.
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[QUOTE=Matius]Here, a few hundred peso and no ticket, no record, no loss of points.
No meaningful tax assesors here, a few peso to the agent, no tax. Anything can be bought here with the right incentive money.
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The consequence of these "benefits" are potholed shitty roads with unrestrained cretins driving on them.. Yehey!!
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Living In The Philippines
TCO, I think that your negative comments about living in the Phils has drawn some more reasoned comments.
Living here has risks.
As long as you accept those risks, life is Good. I have a number of friends who live very wel in the Phils, a bit like Red-Kilt.
From my perspective the issue is one of risk.
Most of the guys here live in advanced western countries, where the nanny state has been on the rise for most of our lives. Here in Australia, government intrudes into almost every aspect of my life.
In return, the state protects me from everything, I have safety nets for aged pension, unemployment, consumer protection, price surveillance etc etc. I am protected even against myself.
But for me, it is totally claustrophobic, and there is no freedom any more.
Whereas the Philippines has a lot more freedom, but comensurately less protection. So you need to become more observant and more resourceful.
I plan to move to the Phils purely for the freedom that it offers.
maybe I will crash and burn, but I am prepared to take the risk.
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[QUOTE=Gangles]
I plan to move to the Phils purely for the freedom that it offers.
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Mate, I am a libertarian at heart, but please enlighten me what freedom does the Republic of Philippines offers you that you dont have back in Oz?
I can list a lot of freedoms that you will be GIVING UP the moment you land in NAIA airport... the list is long but I'll just list a few most important ones
- Freedom of pleasant and fast transportation
- Freedom to breathe clean air
- Freedom to own property
in return you gain the freedom to be able to shove peso bills into the hands of corrupt law enforcers, something you cant do in Oz.. Yehey!!
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Freedom in Australia
if i want to ride my bike down town, i do not have the right to make an adult decision as to whether i wear a helmet or not - i must wear one.
the tax office monitors every transaction through my bank accounts.
when i meet up with my mates on friday evening for a few beers, they are so in fear of being arrested for driving over the limit of 0.05 that they pay $30 cab fare to get to the pub, and home. so $10 worth of beers cost them $70.
twerrified at exceeding the speed limits - new speed cameras are hidden along the road.
at 3am, when ther is not another vehicle in tow, stop at a red light and wait for it to change, in fear of red light cameras. no common sense applicable.
police everywhere. i live in a police state.
i am constrained by so many laws that life is like being in a cage. in 2003, teh combined governments of australia passed 30,000 pages of legislation. very little of that said what i can do, almost all said what i cabn not do.
my local government monitors my water consumption in case i water my lawns. monitor the sewers fro what i put down the drain.
i wanted to build some town houses as an investment. 38 pages of regulations telling me what i had to do. i pay for sewerage, water supply, parking and garbage collection for a block of land that i own in town.
utter madness.
there are laws prohibiting me from talking in public about the moslem problem i australia, anti vilification laws, teh populace are no longer free to talk about the main issues that concern them because there are laws which prohibit this.
and you call this living in a free country?
if i want to get my passport application processed in a hurry, i pay an extra fee. if i do the same in the philippines, it is called corruption.
insanity.
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[quote=gangles]if i want to ride my bike down town, i do not have the right to make an adult decision as to whether i wear a helmet or not - i must wear one.[/quote]
ok my friend :) welcome to the philippines, where you have all the freedoms you lack in the police state of australia :
- feel free to bike helmet-less, like the darwin award candidate who splattered his brains over a trucks hull last sunday in laguna stopping traffic for a freaking hour
- taxes will not be in issue here since you won't have any local profits to tax :)
- feel free to drive pissed drunk, at an average speed of 20 km/h, speeding will not be an issue in the permanent round the clock traffic jam ;) ignore the red lights too, just like the jeepney driving fella without license who will be slamming your car from the right.. freedom!! aint it great?
- water restrictions will not be a problem.. but you'll miss australian lamb and fresh milk
- speaking of the muslim problem, enjoy your freedom to stand in a queue to every shop and venue while the security guards check your bags for bombs
- you cannot own land in phils and will not be building any townhouses as an investment so thats one less headache for you as well :)
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[quote=gangles]if i want to ride my bike down town, i do not have the right to make an adult decision as to whether i wear a helmet or not - i must wear one.
the tax office monitors every transaction through my bank accounts.
when i meet up with my mates on friday evening for a few beers, they are so in fear of being arrested for driving over the limit of 0.05 that they pay $30 cab fare to get to the pub, and home. so $10 worth of beers cost them $70.
twerrified at exceeding the speed limits - new speed cameras are hidden along the road.
at 3am, when ther is not another vehicle in tow, stop at a red light and wait for it to change, in fear of red light cameras. no common sense applicable.
police everywhere. i live in a police state.
i am constrained by so many laws that life is like being in a cage. in 2003, teh combined governments of australia passed 30,000 pages of legislation. very little of that said what i can do, almost all said what i cabn not do.
my local government monitors my water consumption in case i water my lawns. monitor the sewers fro what i put down the drain.
i wanted to build some town houses as an investment. 38 pages of regulations telling me what i had to do. i pay for sewerage, water supply, parking and garbage collection for a block of land that i own in town.
utter madness.
there are laws prohibiting me from talking in public about the moslem problem i australia, anti vilification laws, teh populace are no longer free to talk about the main issues that concern them because there are laws which prohibit this.
and you call this living in a free country?
if i want to get my passport application processed in a hurry, i pay an extra fee. if i do the same in the philippines, it is called corruption.
insanity.
g[/quote]
i think aust. also has some facist like internet laws, don't they?
here in the usa we are now being fondled over our entire bodies by uneducated low class cretins who work for the tsa anytime we want to fly.
although this may be true also in other countries, it is probably more true in the u.s.
there are all kinds of money transfer laws now that make it more difficult to send money abroad.
we have freedom of speech supposedly but don't use the word n**gger anywhere and you will see exactly how far that so-called freedom of speech goes.
the near impossible trick is to find a country that has the freedoms of 3rd world countries without the other bad stuff-pollution, noise, corrupt officials (they are free to do as they please?), bad medical, crime. i keep thinking costa rica, but have never been there so can't say.
that mayor in davao might have one solution: hit squads to take out criminals. freedom without alot of cops and oppressive laws. but all you smokers won't like davao's no smoking law.
i think true freedom can only come if you are in charge of the dominant military force in a country and then only if you have nukes. those that have the guns make the rules.
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Thanks for the list some inline thoughts below
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]While I agree with most of the assessments of the total absurdity of this country, and while the horror stories about foreigners being handily severed from their possessions are true, the place can serve as an excellent retirement destination. Retiring here allows most of us to live a far better lifestyle than would have been possible in our own countries, and it's really not very difficult to avoid the major pitfalls by adhering to a few simple rules:
1. Don't buy real property, not a condo, not a house in someone else's name, under any circumstances no matter how sweet the deal. That is of course, unless you can afford to walk away from it all with no fincanial recompense. Rentals are reasonable and you can easily find appropriate accommodations.
**Rent for western level accomd. in the Phil is HIGH and not that much less than the USA. Apartments same as mine, furnished, in major cities are only about 20-30% less than the U.S. City I am currently in. You can own a condo I believe, but not the land underneath it.
2. Don't go into business no matter how lucrative, how "can't miss," or how much of "sure thing" it appears.
**There ARE ways of going into business, the key is to keep control of the assets at all times and be able to hold possession of those assets at all times I THINK (others may wish to agree or disagree).
3. Keep your money in your own country-- the States, Canada, somewhere in Europe, Australia or wherever. You can access it easily through ATMs and the Internet so no need to keep any assets here.
**Yeah that's ok, except if you have any financial problems in the USA, then whattya gonna do about that if your in the Phil? One other poster suggested Singapore or Switz. Switz is no longer secure from tax problems or even drug money. Don't know about Singapore, Uruguay is still safe I believe.
But again, if your money is in a foreign country you have less immediate access to it. Frankly, I don't trust banks period, especially since the last financial collapse in the USA which is rapidly coming to West. Europe some experts are saying.
4. Establish some reasonably close relationships with other expats living in your area, particularly those who have lived there for a few years and who can steer you away from precarious situations.
**No offense to anyone in particular, but I have frequently read that ex-pats are not uncommonly the worst scammers there.
5. During the first year or two, avoid relationships with locals who claim to be "connected," or who can allegedly "help" you cause they're your friends. Check these guys out with expats who have been here a while.
**Yeah this part I mostly agree with. Choose your "friends" with great circumspection.
6. Fly under the radar. That is, don't call attention to yourself, get into
fractious altercations with the locals, insult people, or otherwise act like a belligerent foreigner.
**Yes, correct. Filipinos hate losing face and won't forget it if your the cause.
7. Be respectful to the women you meet, be they casual playmates or friends of longer duration, and be honest with them. Do not give them cause to feel used, abused or offended. Do not humiliate them, especially in public.
**I think this is especially important for mongerers there who tend to get carried away at times.
8. Buy a car and use it in lieu of local transport and/or taxis, thereby avoiding making yourself a target.
**so you can be the target of crooked cops, jeepney drivers with their head in their butts,etc?
9. Do not let the corruption, inefficiency and greed get to you. This is not your country and you're here to enjoy a reasonable life, and not to reform society.
**Actually I think corruption might be the only way to make decent money there, but it's like walking on a tightrope on a windy day.
Simple rules, and easy to follow. Life here can be excellent.[/QUOTE]
**Not sure about "excellent" unless your rich and can insulate yourself, but then you could live just about anywheres. Tolerable maybe, but I doubt excellent.
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Put the Blame on Spain
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Some very sobering thoughts from Matius. I agree that marrying a Filipina if you are planning to live in the Phils is a high risk strategy. As to TCO's question, I think the key thing to understand is that the Phils is that for the small number of very wealthy , well connected clans, who effectively control the country, excluding foreigners from the party makes huge sense. Then you get to own anything worth owning. For the vast majority of Filipinos it's not good news as it stifles economic activity and with that decent paid jobs etc.[/QUOTE]Yes, sobering thoughts from both M. And GL. Something to consider; perhaps 'the dumb shits' who run this country, are actually, 'not so dumb shits'. The Spanish introduced an effective 16th century feudal system to this country. One based on exploitation, absolute power, inequality, ineffective judiciary, police state oppression, and control of everything in the hands of a de facto oligarchy.
Perhaps, most importantly, they brought a highly centralized religion, that fit hand in glove with the rulers. Best of all, a religion that was structured to forgive any and all transgressions and atrocities, not once, but ad infinitum, as long as it was on behalf of the power elite.
Effective? You bet. It's almost 5 centuries later and it's still working very effectively for the elite. So, indeed, why change? The Philippines may become the poorest nation in Asia, (already, it's in a close race to the bottom). However, perhaps they will prove to be the longest lasting and most successful Feudal System in the World! So, yes, foreigners and their modern values are a danger. Consequently we will continue to be kept on short leashes.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]**Not sure about "excellent" unless your rich and can insulate yourself, but then you could live just about anywheres. Tolerable maybe, but I doubt excellent.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I guess excellence is in the mind of the beholder and we all have different definitions. For those who want to live in relative material comfort, spend days screwing an endless stream of nubile young women, enjoy golf and/or beach-type sports, this place can be ideal. For people like me, who love large, sophisticated cities, great restaurants, shows and concerts, it's somewhat less than ideal but still tolerable. Of course, I'm still working on the part about remaining impervious to the greed, corruption and inefficiency.
GE
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Putting the Blame on Spain
While putting the blame on Spain, let us not forget that after the Spanish left, Phils was an American colony for long enough for teh administration to incarcerate all of teh nasty upper class who we now blame for the country's ills.
But did they?
No.
Same deal.
So maybe more appropriate to put the blame on America.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough] For people like me, who love large, sophisticated cities, great restaurants, shows and concerts, it's somewhat less than ideal but still tolerable.
GE[/QUOTE]
ha ha.
Sophisticated Cities---Manila
Great Restaurants--Jolliebe
Shows--Pac Man fighting
Concerts--Filipino Videoke Bars.
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Its all about JOBS- not the rich...the government has screwed it up
At the end of the day, if you have enough jobs for the people, you have a wealthy society. The problem in the Philippines is not the wealthy; its the lack of jobs for everyone. If the unemployment rate was 5% vs. 45%; the Philippines would be one of the Asian Tigers today.
I lived in the Phils about 40 years ago when the country was the wealthiest country in Asia (my maid came from this sh**hole city called Hong Kong).
At that time, the wealthy Chinese were investing heavily in the Philippines due to its stable government, its vast natural resources and the preponderance of good cheap Filipino labor. It was the China formula from today applied in the 50's.
Then Marcos came into power and wanted to "Philipinize" the country's wealth. Well, the Chinese investors fled the country for "less desirable places" like Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, etc. and the rest is history!! Marcos's cronies couldn't run the plants and invest more to build-up the economy and the unemployment rate went from the high teens to over 40% today.
THAT is what has ruined the Philippines; poorly run governments who don't understand economic policies trying to slice the small loaf of bread among themselves. In China, you have a communist dictatorship that is less corrupt whose aim is to grow a bigger and bigger loaf of bread every month. That way, the rich get richer; the poor get to become the middle class and the desolate become poor. And investments (internal and external) keep pouring in to further build factories, create jobs and wealth.
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[QUOTE=Philosophery]At the end of the day, if you have enough jobs for the people, you have a wealthy society. The problem in the Philippines is not the wealthy; its the lack of jobs for everyone. If the unemployment rate was 5% vs. 45%; the Philippines would be one of the Asian Tigers today.
I lived in the Phils about 40 years ago when the country was the wealthiest country in Asia (my maid came from this sh**hole city called Hong Kong).
At that time, the wealthy Chinese were investing heavily in the Philippines due to its stable government, its vast natural resources and the preponderance of good cheap Filipino labor. It was the China formula from today applied in the 50's.
Then Marcos came into power and wanted to "Philipinize" the country's wealth. Well, the Chinese investors fled the country for "less desirable places" like Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, etc. and the rest is history!! Marcos's cronies couldn't run the plants and invest more to build-up the economy and the unemployment rate went from the high teens to over 40% today.
THAT is what has ruined the Philippines; poorly run governments who don't understand economic policies trying to slice the small loaf of bread among themselves. In China, you have a communist dictatorship that is less corrupt whose aim is to grow a bigger and bigger loaf of bread every month. That way, the rich get richer; the poor get to become the middle class and the desolate become poor. And investments (internal and external) keep pouring in to further build factories, create jobs and wealth.[/QUOTE]
I believe it is the population explosion. Yet to meet a girl who has one or two siblings. Most families have 8-10 kids or more. It was the same with China before-too many people. After Deng xiapong opened China to the world it is not the Chinese who developed China initially. It is the foreign companies looking for cheap labor most notably German and Japanese. Chinese government provided support with lost cost subsidized electricity, fuel etc. The conditions for the workers were horrible at best. It was clearly overlooked to provide cheap goods to the world. Once the initial money was made China with its authoritarian government manager very well resources vs expertise to provide goods and services. Unemployment or rather under employment is rampant in China. Chinese government is corrupt also but only the high officials and Chinese military.
Corruption is everywhere in Phi. It is part of life in most developing countries.
Phi system did not force workers to work hard. The workers are the laziest I have seen. Yes, Marcos wanted him and his cronies to enjoy life with American help I might add. He withheld the economic progress of the country.
Phi has so much natural beauty. Why it has not become no.1 destination for tourists in the region is beyond me.
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Poverty in the Philippines
In any country, state, or community, there are three primare drivers of poverty.
The first in endemic corruption. partly because it sucks money out of the system, but also because it distorts the decision making process, particularly the letting of contracts.
The second is unstable government; that is, a government that cannot be relied upon to keep its word regarding policy or decisions. The construction of terminal 3 at the airport is a classic example. No large corporation will ever invest again in the Philippines.
The third is an ineffective land title system; that is, when title is not clear, you cannot leverage land to create wealth.
If any one exists in a community, state or country, then there will be poveerty.
The remote aboriginal communities in Australia are a veery good example.
All three exist in the Philippines. So, until all three are corrected, the country will remain in poverty. Not a good prospect for the peoople of the country.
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Poverty in th ePhilippines Part 2
Having said the previous statements, it is also necessary for the people themselves to be prepared to change.
For example, I have a gf who is relatively old, almost nil education, but she has never been out of work. Because she has the right attitude towards work
For about a year, I have been talking with a rice farmer, the father of a gf. He is honest, straight, never asks for anything, hospitable.
I have been suggesting to him that he think about changing his farming practices, not in a big way. The average yield for rice farmers across Asia, using conventional practices, is about 1.5 tonnes per hectare. With simple changes, this can readily be increased to about 6 tonnes per ha.
(an average rice farmer in Australia, using a lot less water, gets about 10 tonnes per ha)
I have spoken with filipino businessmen who have bought rice farms as a business, who regularly get yields of 8 tonnes per ha.
But my friend does not want to change. I have said that I will provide the money that is needed to make the changes, and I will fund him for two growing cyces. But he still will not change. He can not see that this will lift him out of a subsistence farming environment, into one where there is plenty of money to further improve the property, and to diversify his business.
So, he will not be able to lift himself out of the near poveerty situation.
And this mindset is common.
So the fault is not completely that of the government.
Except that the government refuses to invest in local agricultural research, nor in providing extension services.
So, the poverty trap remains.
There is plenty of land in teh Philippines to be completely self sufficient in rice, but the government will not make the initial investment.
Depressing.
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[QUOTE=Gangles]...............
For about a year, I have been talking with a rice farmer, the father of a gf. He is honest, straight, never asks for anything, hospitable.
I have been suggesting to him that he think about changing his farming practices, not in a big way. The average yield for rice farmers across Asia, using conventional practices, is about 1.5 tonnes per hectare. With simple changes, this can readily be increased to about 6 tonnes per ha.
(an average rice farmer in Australia, using a lot less water, gets about 10 tonnes per ha)
I have spoken with filipino businessmen who have bought rice farms as a business, who regularly get yields of 8 tonnes per ha.
But my friend does not want to change. I have said that I will provide the money that is needed to make the changes, and I will fund him for two growing cyces. But he still will not change. He can not see that this will lift him out of a subsistence farming environment, into one where there is plenty of money to further improve the property, and to diversify his business.
So, he will not be able to lift himself out of the near poveerty situation.
And this mindset is common...............[/QUOTE]
Gangles.
I have had EXACTLY the same situation for TWELVE years with a similar farmer. I know he can double his output of rice in one season, and he has a lot of fields too.
Smart guy. Wonderful temperament. Barangay kapitan. But he will NOT change, even though I have also promised to fund the alternative approach so if it fails he doesn't lose. I suggested he use just ONE field to trial it. Nope.
It is so exasperating, but I now realize it is a mind-set that I cannot change.
BTW, this guy is my father-in-law.
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Maybe those "simple" changes are not as simple to him as they are to you? Are you suggesting more fertilizer, more mechanization, more what? The average Filipino rice farmer already harvests more per acre/hectare than a Thai rice farmer; think the former is up to almost 4 tonnes now.
Some people may be suspicious of "non-family" offering to help them out, who knows if the no-strings offer is really no-strings? Maybe they don't want to fail in front of neighbors? Maybe they realize that even if they double their output they can't transport the stuff to market or maybe their buyers won't or can't buy more? Maybe they're in a "relationship" where they've "agreed" to buy their seed and fertilizer from the local honcho. Who knows?
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Here is one for you elderly gents looking for a good challenge :)
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/wintersonata.html[/url]
I want to meet a Male
with age from 18 to 35
and I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
anyone with a good soul, honest, sincere, one woman man, thoughtful.
NO TO 'DOM' not in the sense that he is untidy but in the sense of flirting to a young girl like me. WAKE UP OLD MEN YOU BETTER LOOK FOR AN OLDER WOMAN IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I WANT TO VOMIT SEEING OLD MEN WITH YOUNGER GIRLS. SO KADIRI
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Here is one for you elderly gents looking for a good challenge :)
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/wintersonata.html[/url]
I want to meet a Male
with age from 18 to 35
and I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
anyone with a good soul, honest, sincere, one woman man, thoughtful.
NO TO 'DOM' not in the sense that he is untidy but in the sense of flirting to a young girl like me. WAKE UP OLD MEN YOU BETTER LOOK FOR AN OLDER WOMAN IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I WANT TO VOMIT SEEING OLD MEN WITH YOUNGER GIRLS. SO KADIRI[/QUOTE]
Not many young girls will like old men. If they like at first it will definitely for financial support. After that Love is possible. Like anything else it is the attraction between male and female which determines the relationship.
This girl is 18 but has no problems with 35 year old. Maybe 40-45 also will be ok.
Most of the young girls in DIA talk and flirt but to get into their pants you need to offer committment or financial help. If the girl is poor she will do anything to get out of her poverty by any means possible including sex with a 70 year old man. But Reasonable employed and stable girls may not do unless they want a foregn BF to brag about.
One girl I met in DIA was 18 year old. Initially I told her I want to meet her in Cebu if she will stay with me. She refused saying I need to meet her parents and get permission. I did not meet her that trip. Later she begged me to meet her and promised to stay with me on my next trip. So I did. Did not offer financial help apart from some gifts.
So it is possible they change their mind after failing to get a foreign BF in their preferred age group.
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RICE fARMING
Danibbler,
I am not suggesting more fertilizer. In fact usually it is less. But the farmer never gets a soil sample analysed, so he does not know the best type of fertilizer, nor the best application rates. He knows that he needs fertilizer, so he usually applies too much. Wastes money, and kills the soil.
Nor would I suggest mechanisation. No point with only one, maybe 1.2 ha.
But you are partly right in that the "crabs in a bucket" syndrome is a pretty strong incentive for the farmer to conform with the rest of his community. This is why I really want him to act as a demo site, so that all of his community makes similar changes, so that they all get the same benefits.
G
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[QUOTE=Gangles]But you are partly right in that the "crabs in a bucket" syndrome[/QUOTE]
Farming is a funny racket. Look at Japan, they grow rice more of less by hand on small plots run by a family unit of 2-4 people. Mechanization? Sure, one of those Kubota walk-behind tractors. In theory that small plot could earn more $$ being turned into an apartment building or even a parking lot. However, the govt ensures heavy tariffs on "inferior" rice imported from more efficient places like Thailand and California. So its protectionism big time, and economies of waste.
OTOH, the farmer keeps his nice home and quaint life, and I suppose in the big picture, Japan as a nation maintains some capability to produce its own food, should it be necessary.
Have you seen those Fuji apples, individually wrapped in foam?
So maybe your local farmer is resisting because he wants to maintain his lifestyle. What you propose sounds like real work!
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I would add a fourth "poverty driver" to Gangles' excellent summary: inadequate investment in education, which is also the case here. The fact is that the public education system in the Philippines is one of the worst vie ever seen, and prepares it's students for nothing.
GE
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]The fact is that the public education system in the Philippines is one of the worst vie ever seen, and prepares it's students for nothing.
GE[/QUOTE]
Not true...it certainly prepares its female students for Wicked Roger :-).
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trying to use Tagged
A question for you experts since I am new at trying to prearrange hookups before arriving in a country.
I joined tagged several months ago. As my trip to the PI approaches (late Jan.) I picked out the 7 best-looking of my "friends" (most are in or near Manila) and sent them a message. The message was pretty upfront, saying that I would be visiting soon and wanting to know if they wanted to "meet for some fun". In about a week I have received one "no" and not heard from the other 6.
Suggestions on how to get better results?
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[QUOTE=D Cups]Wait a minute, GE. How many other Asian countries teach English like the Philippines do?
I have worked with numerous Filipino educators who are very dedicated.[/QUOTE]
I think you are mixing up competence and dedication here D Cups.
I don't recall anybody, ever, suggesting Filipino educators weren't dedicated.
As for your question about "other countries teaching English", the simple answer is that every other country is now teaching English at a high intensity and they will pass the Phils very soon. Even Mongolia now has an emphasis on teaching English, with goals to be met each year. China is rapidly catching up in terms of English competence.
Since I came here in 1997, I have noticed a dramatic DROP in English competence in the education system. The ability of English teachers to use English fluently and correctly has deteriorated quite noticeably. Unless, as GE says, there is a huge increase in investment in both technical assistance and infrastructure, the Phils will continue to slip and within a few more years it will be barely ahead of Myanmar.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]
Since I came here in 1997, I have noticed a dramatic DROP in English competence in the education system. The ability of English teachers to use English fluently and correctly has deteriorated quite noticeably. Unless, as GE says, there is a huge increase in investment in both technical assistance and infrastructure, the Phils will continue to slip and within a few more years it will be barely ahead of Myanmar.[/QUOTE]
Japan has been intensively teaching english for 50 years, yet you can have a decent conversation with maybe 1 out of 10 japanese.. they do their homework in school but the moment exam bell rings, they go back to their japanese-speaking lives and forget everything... same goes for China.
Philippines on the other hand has a daily english speaking life thanks to the huge call center industry here as well as english teaching industry.. no country in asia will catch up to them in that area ever...
That been said... public school education here is really poor.. I have this miniball in the office with the map of the world on it.. sometimes I show it to a pinoy and ask to find Philippines on the globe.. half of them cant find it.
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[QUOTE=JPF]I joined tagged several months ago. As my trip to the PI approaches (late Jan.) I picked out the 7 best-looking of my "friends" (most are in or near Manila) and sent them a message. The message was pretty upfront, saying that I would be visiting soon and wanting to know if they wanted to "meet for some fun". In about a week I have received one "no" and not heard from the other 6.
Suggestions on how to get better results?[/QUOTE]Brutal. Time to get more friends.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]That been said... public school education here is really poor.. I have this miniball in the office with the map of the world on it.. sometimes I show it to a pinoy and ask to find Philippines on the globe.. half of them cant find it.[/QUOTE]Wow, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it?
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Japan has been intensively teaching english for 50 years, yet you can have a decent conversation with maybe 1 out of 10 japanese.. they do their homework in school but the moment exam bell rings, they go back to their japanese-speaking lives and forget everything... same goes for China.[/QUOTE]
I concur. Most Japanese can read English to some degree, but unless they live in central Tokyo and work with foreigners regularly they can't speak more than a few pleasantries.
So as far as conversational English goes, PI ranks pretty high in my book.
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Well I'm no expert but my approach has been successful for me. I dont use the "want to meet for fun" approach. I do the opposite and say Im going to Phil for Business and Im single and will have a couple days off and would love to take them to dinner. I get more responses that way from girls that are not looking to make a buck for sex but are open to meeting a forigner.
Once you meet them you dont even need to bring up the words that you would like to sleep with them it just seems to happen. Filipinas are very open with sex if they like you. I would tell them prior to meeting them that I will need to meet with my boss at some point. If I wanted to move on from the girl I would just say that I recieved an email from my boss and he will meet me at my room in the morning. Seemed to work fine and the filipina did not get upset and think I was going to meet another girl.
[QUOTE=JPF]A question for you experts since I am new at trying to prearrange hookups before arriving in a country.
I joined tagged several months ago. As my trip to the PI approaches (late Jan.) I picked out the 7 best-looking of my "friends" (most are in or near Manila) and sent them a message. The message was pretty upfront, saying that I would be visiting soon and wanting to know if they wanted to "meet for some fun". In about a week I have received one "no" and not heard from the other 6.
Suggestions on how to get better results?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sammon]I believe it is the population explosion. Yet to meet a girl who has one or two siblings. Most families have 8-10 kids or more. It was the same with China before-too many people. After Deng xiapong opened China to the world it is not the Chinese who developed China initially. It is the foreign companies looking for cheap labor most notably German and Japanese. Chinese government provided support with lost cost subsidized electricity, fuel etc. The conditions for the workers were horrible at best. It was clearly overlooked to provide cheap goods to the world. Once the initial money was made China with its authoritarian government manager very well resources vs expertise to provide goods and services. Unemployment or rather under employment is rampant in China. Chinese government is corrupt also but only the high officials and Chinese military.
Corruption is everywhere in Phi. It is part of life in most developing countries.
Phi system did not force workers to work hard. The workers are the laziest I have seen. Yes, Marcos wanted him and his cronies to enjoy life with American help I might add. He withheld the economic progress of the country.
Phi has so much natural beauty. Why it has not become no.1 destination for tourists in the region is beyond me.[/QUOTE]
I have been visiting China for the past 21 years and I disagree with your assessment. The largest investor in China is the overseas Chinese from Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore. Those 3 groups have invested more in China than the US & all the European countries combined. Most Japanese investors in China (originally) were the Japanese with Chinese blood. These same investors are related to the ones who built-up the Tiger economies of Asia (Korea, Taiwan, Singapore). If you go to the Guangdong province manufacturing plants, most (65+%) of the owners have Chinese roots.
Yes there is corruption among the government officials in China (no more than most western countries BTW) but the biggest difference between China and the other 3rd world countries is the quality of their policy makers. The China policy makers today have been educated in the finest institutions in the world (Harvard, Stamford, London School of Business, McGill, Princeton) and it was part of Deng's strategy for westernizing China (following the Singaporean model). If you go to those Universities today (as I have), you will find young scholars on scholarship from the Chinese government. They are the policy makers of tomorrow. These young scholars have very good paying jobs waiting for them back in China with the government.
The Phils is a very beautiful country but the reason few tourists go there is due to (unwarranted) safety concerns.
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[QUOTE=Irony Monger]I concur. Most Japanese can read English to some degree, but unless they live in central Tokyo and work with foreigners regularly they can't speak more than a few pleasantries.
So as far as conversational English goes, PI ranks pretty high in my book.[/QUOTE]
Learning any language is two fold. First you learn the basics in the classroom by writing, listening. then you need to put these in connecting words to become a conversation speaker. Conversation language is picked up better if you are forced to speak that language day in and day out.
Many Chinese learn basic english in School. My GF who was 18 could understand spoken and written english very well. But conversationwise she is lacking in comprehension. We communicated complex issues by writing. I tried to teach her but as usual human brain goes for the easiest path to convey. Without me there she needs to speak only Chinese with everybody. Also in etween my visits she will forget what I have taught her but will pick up quickly. But after two years still she cannot talk fluent english. She works in a department store and there is no need.
Some girls in bigger cities like Beijing and shanghai tend to have more opportunities to learn.
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[QUOTE=Philosophery]I have been visiting China for the past 21 years and I disagree with your assessment. The largest investor in China is the overseas Chinese from Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore. Those 3 groups have invested more in China than the US & all the European countries combined. Most Japanese investors in China (originally) were the Japanese with Chinese blood. These same investors are related to the ones who built-up the Tiger economies of Asia (Korea, Taiwan, Singapore). If you go to the Guangdong province manufacturing plants, most (65+%) of the owners have Chinese roots.
Yes there is corruption among the government officials in China (no more than most western countries BTW) but the biggest difference between China and the other 3rd world countries is the quality of their policy makers. The China policy makers today have been educated in the finest institutions in the world (Harvard, Stamford, London School of Business, McGill, Princeton) and it was part of Deng's strategy for westernizing China (following the Singaporean model). If you go to those Universities today (as I have), you will find young scholars on scholarship from the Chinese government. They are the policy makers of tomorrow. These young scholars have very good paying jobs waiting for them back in China with the government.
The Phils is a very beautiful country but the reason few tourists go there is due to (unwarranted) safety concerns.[/QUOTE]
I partially agree with your assessment about ownership of factories being people of Chinese heritage. Only they were allowed to own it although the technology is western. Western companies were viewed with suspicion and were not allowed to own anything. But the total westernisation of the infrastructure and economy came from Germany and Japan. USA did not get into the fray in the begining mainly because of anti-communist stance.
Most of the high government officials I have met in Beijing are old people who are not well educated. But the system in the government is set up by Deng is western style modern system with checks and balances.
Phi would have benefitted with cheap labor and regimentation of work force. But Marcos did not want the country to become world force, just his cronies to benefit. He accepted American money in the guise of controlling communism only. The same kind of mentality is there now with the new set of law makers. They practically do not care for the poor people. Even people who got jobs in the gulf and other countries need to go through a hurdle of red tape before allowed.
Because Phi is so poor we get all the willing girls to go with us.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]I partially agree with your assessment about ownership of factories being people of Chinese heritage. Only they were allowed to own it although the technology is western. Western companies were viewed with suspicion and were not allowed to own anything. But the total westernisation of the infrastructure and economy came from Germany and Japan. USA did not get into the fray in the begining mainly because of anti-communist stance.
Most of the high government officials I have met in Beijing are old people who are not well educated. But the system in the government is set up by Deng is western style modern system with checks and balances.
Phi would have benefitted with cheap labor and regimentation of work force. But Marcos did not want the country to become world force, just his cronies to benefit. He accepted American money in the guise of controlling communism only. The same kind of mentality is there now with the new set of law makers. They practically do not care for the poor people. Even people who got jobs in the gulf and other countries need to go through a hurdle of red tape before allowed.
Because Phi is so poor we get all the willing girls to go with us.[/QUOTE]Is this a sex forum or are Chinese factories now both sexy and considered sexul? Can you get on topic please.
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Rice Farming in Japan
The comment about subsidies for japanese rice farmers is spot on.
But the EU also subsidises its farmers, and teh UK, and the USA, and many other countries.
Why?
There is an old saying in defence circles - "he who controls the food supply controls the world"
Food is a national strategic defence matter. The Jap govt pays farmers same as US govt, so that if the shit hits the farm, they can feed themselves.
Because there wil be no opportunity to ship food by sea - ships are extremely vulnerable in teh modern battlefield, it is necessary to maintain enough agricultural land to keep the populace fed.
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Sorry to go off topic '____' haha...
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/rizalyn18.html[/url]
looser never win!!! hmmmmmp
i want a prince who can proudly say "i'll fuck you" even in front of many people
who can eat my pussy even without a week of bathing.
who can show me his cock and say " this is the girl im gonna fuck"
"boys! ill bend over and show you everything"!! =)
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I want to meet a Male
with age from 18 to 80
and I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
ofcourse a perfect guy for me..
>:-p idk, something tells me someone's changed her a/c and she doesn't know, that or I've found the future Mrs. Tenchi...
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Go to the History and Politics Thread
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Is this a sex forum or are Chinese factories now both sexy and considered sexul? Can you get on topic please.[/QUOTE]Ease off FF. A number of us are interested in this stuff. However I agree there has been a significant shift from the intent of this thread. There is a thread for this kind of discussion. HISTORY & POLITICS, located near the bottom of the topics list.
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It's Just Broken, lol
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I would add a fourth "poverty driver" to Gangles' excellent summary: inadequate investment in education, which is also the case here. The fact is that the public education system in the Philippines is one of the worst vie ever seen, and prepares it's students for nothing.
GE[/QUOTE]Just like everything else in this unfortunate country, it's just broken, lol.
Inadequate resources and lack of maintenance are endemic in practically
everything and anywhere.
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[QUOTE=JPF]A question for you experts since I am new at trying to prearrange hookups before arriving in a country.
I joined tagged several months ago. As my trip to the PI approaches (late Jan.) I picked out the 7 best-looking of my "friends" (most are in or near Manila) and sent them a message. The message was pretty upfront, saying that I would be visiting soon and wanting to know if they wanted to "meet for some fun". In about a week I have received one "no" and not heard from the other 6.
Suggestions on how to get better results?[/QUOTE]Don't assume everyone is promiscuous or a hooker. Have some game about yourself and use tact. Just like any woman from where you are from; they know within 15 minutes whether they will fuck you or not. However you can't just come out and say let's go fuck. You have to go through all the usual motions and rigamaroll. If you are that insistent on meeting someone just to fuck then why not just go to the usual haunts and pay your 1000 pesos rather than wasting countless hours on a website for something hit or miss. Then you will more than likely still end up spending the money by going to dinner with them, buying them drinks, and paying their taxi.
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[QUOTE=Tenchi]Sorry to go off topic '____' haha...
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/rizalyn18.html[/url]
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Hahaha.. several possibilities come to mind:
- She has an ex-boyfriend and he got hold of her password
- The bitter ex-boyfriend created the whole account without her knowledge
- It's a scammer
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Well I'm no expert but my approach has been successful for me. I dont use the "want to meet for fun" approach. I do the opposite and say Im going to Phil for Business and Im single and will have a couple days off and would love to take them to dinner. I get more responses that way from girls that are not looking to make a buck for sex but are open to meeting a forigner.[/QUOTE]
They have the morals of alley cat's but need to maintain face.
You have obviously grasped the fundamentals.
Congratulations.
AV
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Hahaha.. several possibilities come to mind:
- She has an ex-boyfriend and he got hold of her password
- The bitter ex-boyfriend created the whole account without her knowledge
- It's a scammer[/QUOTE]Or could be an LB - LBs are not ashamed to say it straight.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]They have the morals of alley cat's but need to maintain face.
You have obviously grasped the fundamentals.
Congratulations.
AV[/QUOTE]All around Asia, it is the same.
Rarely have I seen a alley cat admitting it is one.
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Thanks for the alternative.
I never mentioned money or sex and (Mr. Enternational) I certainly don't assume everyone on Tagged is a hooker or promiscuous. I was hoping for 1 or 2 positive responses out of 7 and see where that goes.
I thought that "meet for fun" was open enough to include almost anything (except that I'm not looking for long term relationship). Although it is a small sample (two replies) I take it that the advice is to try and get a date with them and then wine and dine them.
By the way, after I posted my message I got one positive reply of "sure, just let me know when you are here".
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Well I'm no expert but my approach has been successful for me. I dont use the "want to meet for fun" approach. I do the opposite and say Im going to Phil for Business and Im single and will have a couple days off and would love to take them to dinner. I get more responses that way from girls that are not looking to make a buck for sex but are open to meeting a forigner.
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[QUOTE=JPF]I thought that "meet for fun" was open enough to include almost anything (except that I'm not looking for long term relationship).[/QUOTE]
For many Filipinas, 'meet for fun' or 'lets have some fun' is code for 'lets have sex'!
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[QUOTE=JPF]Thanks for the alternative.
I never mentioned money or sex and (Mr. Enternational) I certainly don't assume everyone on Tagged is a hooker or promiscuous. I was hoping for 1 or 2 positive responses out of 7 and see where that goes.
I thought that "meet for fun" was open enough to include almost anything (except that I'm not looking for long term relationship). Although it is a small sample (two replies) I take it that the advice is to try and get a date with them and then wine and dine them.
By the way, after I posted my message I got one positive reply of "sure, just let me know when you are here".[/QUOTE]
In chatting the girls will agree for everything. Just do not send any money.
Whether they actuially give you sex once you meet depends on lots of things. If they meet you with their family or friends generally sex is out of the question on that day. Maybe she will come to your hotel later. These girls want to protect their percieved respect with family and friends. Having said that sex is out there in the open in Phi.
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[QUOTE=Mattrick]For many Filipinas, 'meet for fun' or 'lets have some fun' is code for 'lets have sex'![/QUOTE]
Mattrick
It certainly is when I say it :D
When chatting I also ask if the girl has had ex boyfriends and then ask if she has any 'experience'....another way to see how open minded she. Had a few tell me am "naughty" (but still chat) and some say I am "disgusting" which I see as a compliment :) but generally it weeds out those who may not be suitable....
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[QUOTE=Mattrick]For many Filipinas, 'meet for fun' or 'lets have some fun' is code for 'lets have sex'![/QUOTE]
Thank you. Could you suggest a phrase that is inbetween "fun" and "have dinner||meet"? I would like it open enough to include the possibility of sex but not be too blatant. I know that dinner can lead to sex but I would prefer to let them know that that isn't the only thing I am interested in.
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Just make your openining message friendly and simple. Move the conversation over to YM and exchange some photos and try to see them on Cam. After a few chats then feel the girl out for additional interests. Just get a little naughtier each time and see how they take it. When they feel more comfortable with you then you can say...Hey Im single but I dont like the bar scene and I would love some company. Can you stay with me overnight if after we meet you like me? Meet them for a drink and if all goes well then take it from there. If you dont like them then just end it there and move on.
Some girls may have to travel an hour by jeepny to get to you so if they like you then they will want to stay with you. Dont bring it up that you will pay them for sex but offer to pay for their transportation to and from. Dont send them money but give it to them when you see them. If they are looking to make a few pesos for sex they will bring it up. You will need to decide if thats what you want and negotiate it.
From my expierience the regular filipinas who are not in it for the money are the best. If they like you they will fuck your brains out.
Wicked Rogers approach is on the hardcore end of the spectrum so you need to decide how you want to play it.
Its kind of a hit and miss so if you have the time and skills to weed out the good ones from the bad before your visit it will go better.
Good Luck
[QUOTE=JPF]Thank you. Could you suggest a phrase that is inbetween "fun" and "have dinner||meet"? I would like it open enough to include the possibility of sex but not be too blatant. I know that dinner can lead to sex but I would prefer to let them know that that isn't the only thing I am interested in.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sammon]In chatting the girls will agree for everything. Just do not send any money.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yeah, but if they live outside of Manila (or your destination of choice) they will tell you they need you to send money so they can go there.
[QUOTE=JPF] Could you suggest a phrase that is inbetween "fun" and "have dinner||meet"? I would like it open enough to include the possibility of sex but not be too blatant. I know that dinner can lead to sex but I would prefer to let them know that that isn't the only thing I am interested in.[/QUOTE]That is the point. You do not want them to think you are even remotely interested in sex with them. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry that meet them on the site will eventually get around to mentioning sex. You want to set yourself apart by never even hinting at it. You have to remember they are in fairy tale land and looking for prince charming to sweep them off their feet. So your M.O. is that you just want to meet her and know her and you hope she is a good lady.
I definitely would not suggest offering dinner before you meet her. I would say invite her to get some juice or ice cream. Then when she arrives and you get a good vibe you might want to throw dinner out there. When you are mass meeting chicks daily there is only so much dinner you can/want to eat and/or pay for. So think small like having tea; something to break the ice. Then eventually one thing leads to another.
Stop trying to run down the hill to fuck one out of the herd. Walk down the hill and fuck them all. Patience grasshopper.
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Complete opposite
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]LOL. That is the point. You do not want them to think you are even remotely interested in sex with them. Every Tom, Dick, and Harry that meet them on the site will eventually get around to mentioning sex. You want to set yourself apart by never even hinting at it.
Stop trying to run down the hill to fuck one out of the herd. Walk down the hill and fuck them all. Patience grasshopper.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Just make your openining message friendly and simple. Move the conversation over to YM and exchange some photos and try to see them on Cam. After a few chats then feel the girl out for additional interests. Just get a little naughtier each time and see how they take it. When they feel more comfortable with you then you can say...Hey Im single but I dont like the bar scene and I would love some company. Can you stay with me overnight if after we meet you like me? Meet them for a drink and if all goes well then take it from there. If you dont like them then just end it there and move on.
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To each his own. I placed a profile on a dating site that was much more harsh than his tagged. "I'm only looking for fun when touring through your town. Not interested in long-term relationship..." They came pouring out of the woodwork. Some didn't read the profile before responding, and many of those were not interested in me once they read it (I ask right away in chat if they read it; then direct them back to read it if they had not). The ones who did read it first and responded (about half) were overwhelmingly wanting to meet. I only needed to have the thing up for a few days and I got a spreadsheet full of phone numbers and, "you txt me when ur in cebu ya. we meet up." The first few days I was getting 50+ responses, which trailed quickly down to 8-12/day. I had it up for a month before my trip; next time a week (or less) will do. Once in manila/AC/Batangas/Cebu I was beating them off, as I also like the girls in the bars and malls. Man heaven. YMMV.
Whatever approach works for you, works. I'm with WR on the naughty end of the approach. These girls I chat with from the dating site, I never leave them feeling they won't be sleeping with me, and we rarely mention specifics. If she's willing to meet, she's willing to sleep with me. On the other hand, once in town, there were a few girls who did not meet me, for whatever reason.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]
I'm with WR on the naughty end of the approach. These girls I chat with from the dating site, I never leave them feeling they won't be sleeping with me, and we rarely mention specifics. If she's willing to meet, she's willing to sleep with me. On the other hand, once in town, there were a few girls who did not meet me, for whatever reason.[/QUOTE]
Each to his own flavour but I find if you are direct about what you want, whatever if may be that you want, then at least there is no misunderstanding and you will all be happy
Pinays will always say they will come and some will get cold feet once they realise you are serious and are in the city and have a raging hard on :D, happens all the time but at least the way WC diod it will sort out those who will not do what he needs
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]
Pinays will always say they will come and some will get cold feet once they realise you are serious and are in the city and have a raging hard on :D, happens all the time but at least the way WC diod it will sort out those who will not do what he needs[/QUOTE]
I agree.. being honest about what you want is best.. it weeds out the prospects who dont fit with your plans..
And if you dont find what you need online.. you can always head to LA Cafe / Burgos / Angeles to pick up a P4P girl.. plan B
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Timing
[QUOTE=JPF]A question for you experts since I am new at trying to prearrange hookups before arriving in a country.
I joined tagged several months ago. As my trip to the PI approaches (late Jan.) I picked out the 7 best-looking of my "friends" (most are in or near Manila) and sent them a message. The message was pretty upfront, saying that I would be visiting soon and wanting to know if they wanted to "meet for some fun". In about a week I have received one "no" and not heard from the other 6.
Suggestions on how to get better results?[/QUOTE]
The problem is that you are trying to think too far ahead. As soon as you talk about end of January most girls will be smart enough to understand that there is a less than 1% chance that she will ever meet you so won't bother responding. "Fun" will generally be interpreted as sex without any commitment and maybe without any financial compensation, so is probably not the best phrase to use. Maybe something like "meet up and if we get on well stay overnight", but as you will have gathered different people onn this board employ different strategies. My preference is just to be upfront and honest, others prefer to be "economical with the truth".
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1]To each his own. I placed a profile on a dating site that was much more harsh than his tagged. ........................[/QUOTE]
I agree wholeheartedly with WC and WR.
After 2 years on DIA of using code words, scouting around the truth and trying to paint this wonderful picture of a professional good guy I went the same way as WC - I put up a profile that said I am too busy for building relationships and just prefer discreet meetings, even in the day time if it suits.
They "poured out of the woodwork", to use WC's phrase. And some of the respondents were the ones with "God-fearing" and "no scammers" in their profiles.
It's all a big crazy game.
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Know where they stand
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I agree wholeheartedly with WC and WR.
After 2 years on DIA of using code words, scouting around the truth and trying to paint this wonderful picture of a professional good guy I went the same way as WC - I put up a profile that said I am too busy for building relationships and just prefer discreet meetings, even in the day time if it suits.
They "poured out of the woodwork", to use WC's phrase. And some of the respondents were the ones with "God-fearing" and "no scammers" in their profiles.
It's all a big crazy game.[/QUOTE]
I think for the majority of Filipinas on DIA, the key is to know where they stand. Unfortunately because of DIA's rules re talking about money it is difficult for both guys and especially girls to set out what they are really looking for without getting banned. The majority of non scammer girls on DIA are looking for marriage but probably at least 70% are alo open to a shorter term thing provided there is something in it for them , typically some financial compensation.
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[QUOTE=JPF]Thank you. Could you suggest a phrase that is inbetween "fun" and "have dinner||meet"? I would like it open enough to include the possibility of sex but not be too blatant. I know that dinner can lead to sex but I would prefer to let them know that that isn't the only thing I am interested in.[/QUOTE]
I never ask upfront. If you want to find out how far she may go, ask about exes, ask about DIA exes, something offhand like 'I hope you used protection' I've found gives me answers, plus makes me look responsible :p This way you can get a good idea of the answer to your Q without asking outright.
I think the key is to just secure the meetup, then figure out if she's up for it. Most that come, will be up for it. Also the further they have to travel to you the better your chances.
So depending on what approach you use, just make sure you give the impression you're there for longer than say 2 weeks.
Also, be prince charming in the way you speak, I always say waffle like 'let's wait, so it can be special...' lol, always hit the jackpot before meet 5 :p
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I think for the majority of Filipinas on DIA, the key is to know where they stand.[/QUOTE]I think you over complicate it. In using DIA for past 3 years, and other sites I have an over 90% score ratio. I look ok, I treat the girls ok, they know they are safe with me and that I'm not some sleazy guy, and the rest is just natural. They always seem as keen to get into bed as I am.
My last 5-10 dates have involved meeting a girl, having a drink and maybe food then walking to my car to go to my place or to Eurotel and not one girl has said " wait, where are we going, why are we going to your place " etc.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I agree wholeheartedly with WC and WR.
After 2 years on DIA of using code words, scouting around the truth and trying to paint this wonderful picture of a professional good guy I went the same way as WC - I put up a profile that said I am too busy for building relationships and just prefer discreet meetings, even in the day time if it suits.
They "poured out of the woodwork", to use WC's phrase. And some of the respondents were the ones with "God-fearing" and "no scammers" in their profiles.
It's all a big crazy game.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I think for the majority of Filipinas on DIA, the key is to know where they stand. Unfortunately because of DIA's rules re talking about money it is difficult for both guys and especially girls to set out what they are really looking for without getting banned. The majority of non scammer girls on DIA are looking for marriage but probably at least 70% are alo open to a shorter term thing provided there is something in it for them , typically some financial compensation.[/QUOTE]
Something I found interesting regarding the girls who read that naughty profile and responded: 99% of those responding for a meetup had something in her profile saying she was not there for games, no playboys plz, she's looking for a husband. This must be the 70% of pinay who are open to a shorter term thing provided financial gain (many girls mention that in chat -- "can you help me to my problem?"). RK is right, IT'S ALL A BIG CRAZY GAME. Also, on my most recent trip I met and banged (repeatedly) two dating site women who refused money other than the taxi. "You make puta of me like that. Don't do it. Already you buy me a lunch. Its nice for me. See you tomorrow night ya." (dream come true?)
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I agree wholeheartedly with WC and WR.
trying to paint this wonderful picture of a professional good guy I went the same way as WC[/QUOTE]
RK
I have seen you with the peach.....professional? Methinks other words come to mind and we have the photos to prove it LOL See you soon
Seriuously I have met DIA etc ladies who want to 'try' a white guy. Am always happy being that sort of guinea pig and tehy can try me as long as they like...of course they must be slim, shaved and under 22 years old :D
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Thanks again to all for the good advice. I don't think I have the patience for multiple chat and cam sessions with many women working slowly towards an understanding of what might take place when we meet. Not when I can go to a bar and pick up someone so easily.
So I think I will stick to the more direct approach knowing that it will cut down on the success rate but also on the amount of interaction required. Westcoast1 has also pointed out to me that a dating site like DIA is better than Tagged for my purposes.
Finally, Greg London's advice is also good: "The problem is that you are trying to think too far ahead. As soon as you talk about end of January most girls will be smart enough to understand that there is a less than 1% chance that she will ever meet you so won't bother responding." So I will also wait until I am much closer to my arrival date before my next attempts.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Just make your openining message friendly and simple. Move the conversation over to YM and exchange some photos and try to see them on Cam. After a few chats then feel the girl out for additional interests. Just get a little naughtier each time and see how they take it. When they feel more comfortable with you then you can say...Hey Im single but I dont like the bar scene and I would love some company. Can you stay with me overnight if after we meet you like me? Meet them for a drink and if all goes well then take it from there. If you dont like them then just end it there and move on.
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[QUOTE=JPF]Thanks again to all for the good advice. I don't think I have the patience for multiple chat and cam sessions with many women working slowly towards an understanding of what might take place when we meet. Not when I can go to a bar and pick up someone so easily.
So I think I will stick to the more direct approach knowing that it will cut down on the success rate but also on the amount of interaction required. Westcoast1 has also pointed out to me that a dating site like DIA is better than Tagged for my purposes.[/QUOTE]However you decide to do it it is all a numbers game and takes a lot of time. That is why I was saying that it would probably be better to get someone from one of the bars. I didn't have any luck on DIA myself and I used to be king of online dating sites around the world. I just don't have the patience anymore for most of these dating sites.
Can anyone ring in on the no show rate of DIA chicks? And is there any particular demographic of chicks that is more likely to show up?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]However you decide to do it it is all a numbers game and takes a lot of time. That is why I was saying that it would probably be better to get someone from one of the bars. I didn't have any luck on DIA myself and I used to be king of online dating sites around the world. I just don't have the patience anymore for most of these dating sites.
Can anyone ring in on the no show rate of DIA chicks? And is there any particular demographic of chicks that is more likely to show up?[/QUOTE]No shows are 4 out of every 5. I call after I am in town letting them know I'm in town and where I am staying. Then auntie got sick, father is in hospital, school work to do, etc etc etc. The only ones that show up are the ones that need the money. Remember, the women play the guys as much as the guys play the women.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
Can anyone ring in on the no show rate of DIA chicks? And is there any particular demographic of chicks that is more likely to show up?[/QUOTE]
I did not have a single no-show.. showing up an hour late is standard though.. expect that. Also they have a lot of trouble finding places.. pick some meeting place that even a complete imbecile would be able to find...
In my experience, no-shows are not really a problem.. a much more annoying scenario is when the girl shows up late with 2 friends, they dine and get entertained at your expense.. then say goodbye and go home
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I'm with FBA
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]I did not have a single no-show.. showing up an hour late is standard though.. expect that. Also they have a lot of trouble finding places.. pick some meeting place that even a complete imbecile would be able to find...
In my experience, no-shows are not really a problem.. a much more annoying scenario is when the girl shows up late with 2 friends, they dine and get entertained at your expense.. then say goodbye and go home[/QUOTE]
On my last trip I didn't have a single no-show. I did have, however, have one make an excuse (see Slippery below) to not meet me (sick father). Maybe the father is sick, maybe she just got nervous at the thought of a white man leading with his c*ck out of his pants. Who knows. The good news is that every other woman from my dating site that I mentioned I would like to meet was leading the charge to get to me. Lateness is more of a problem than no-shows.
[QUOTE=Slippery]No shows are 4 out of every 5. I call after I am in town letting them know I'm in town and where I am staying. Then auntie got sick, father is in hospital, school work to do, etc etc etc. The only ones that show up are the ones that need the money. Remember, the women play the guys as much as the guys play the women.[/QUOTE]
I have an unusual vetting system that separates the 'curious' pinay from those that are willing to sleep with me. It takes too long to explain here, but several gents on this board are aware of it. Part of that process is the 'bad-boy' profile on a paid dating site.
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Bonus: Chaperone in Cebu
Sorry for the long details but it's a good story.
Last night I met up with a DIA contact. Plan was to go to the disco in Cebu and then end up at my hotel.
She arrived with 2 (TWO) friends which was NOT pre-arranged. Too late for me to make a scene. I agreed to take all 3 to the disco.
One of the friends was smoking hot in a sexy dress.
Long story short.
Went to disco. My original DIA girl didn't want to dance much. The friends did. I made it clear to the sexy one I fancied her but she seemed a bit wary of moving against her friend (my DIA contact) . We exchanged contact numbers discreetly.
After 2 hours they all decided to go home because they were tired, and they dropped me off in my hotel (alone).
Two mins later, I get a text (obviously from the taxi) saying how nice it was to meet me (from the sexy friend).
I messaged back and agreed and said I hoped to see her again and that I was now all alone in my hotel room.
She replied "You like to see me now? If you do, what is room number?"
Ten minutes later we were hard at it, and she stayed all night and multiple shots and for taxi money only.
SO........ don't dismiss all occasions when your girl brings a friend. Sometimes the dark cloud has a very silver lining.
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Contacts Organizer
Those of you who find you have so many Phil contacts and leads that you lose track of them may be interested to download the "free address book" manager
[url]http://addressbook.gassoftwares.com/[/url]
It's a stand alone contacts manger which will allow you to set up an address book just for your Phil contacts. It allows you to create unlimited extra fields for data such as looks, sexual tastes/performance, DIA Facebook Ids and whatever else you find useful, plus to upload a pic of the girl.
Essential PIM does a similar job a bit more elegantly but the Pro version isnt free and pirated versions tend to expire after awhile meaning you lose your contacts database if you are not carfeful, whereas FAB is totally free software.
re No shows.
The question is how are they defined. I suspect the OP was talking about chatting to girls in the months before a trip who claimed they were keen to meet, then he calls then once he arrives to find they have new Bf's sick dads, cold feet etc. This is indeed a pretty common problem. I think the guys talking about Zero % no shows are talking about calling a girl arranging to meet an hour later at Jollybees and she shows up 2 hours later. Generally girls will show up in these circumstances, though you may need to do quite a bit of texting and often girls will not actually start their journery until you actually say I'm here at Jolybees waiting for you. (which is why i prefer to meet at my hotel if at all possible.) Sadly if you look a bit frightening they can get cold feet and try and run away before they say hello (speaking from sad experience), if you try to meet at say the mall.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]..............................re No shows.
........ and often girls will not actually start their journery until you actually say I'm here at Jolybees waiting for you. (which is why i prefer to meet at my hotel if at all possible.) Sadly if you look a bit frightening they can get cold feet and try and run away before they say hello (speaking from sad experience), if you try to meet at say the mall.[/QUOTE]
You're right GL about the girls needing heaps of re-assurance that you are actually gonna be there to meet them. Seems many punters play the girls along by standing them up - seems to give these guys some power surge to know they have girls running after them.
Meeting at the hotel can be even more frightening for us guys too. I met a girl yesterday in a mall after a short chat on cam who was NOTHING like her DIA persona or her appearance on cam. She was absolutely god-awful ugly as sin; fat, lanky oily hair. I would have had a problem if she had arrived at the hotel room as I would have had to kick her out without even letting her in the room.
Luckily I am so dashingly handsome that I never scare girls away in the mall lol. (No smart ass comments from you WR; you know we both take that Brad Pitt pill that you import hehe)
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Meeting at the hotel can be even more frightening for us guys too. I met a girl yesterday in a mall after a short chat on cam who was NOTHING like her DIA persona or her appearance on cam. She was absolutely god-awful ugly as sin; fat, lanky oily hair. I would have had a problem if she had arrived at the hotel room as I would have had to kick her out without even letting her in the room.[/QUOTE]That is a bit harsh RK. You should have sent her over to me and I would have fucked her for you!
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Stand ups
[QUOTE=Red Kilt]You're right GL about the girls needing heaps of re-assurance that you are actually gonna be there to meet them. Seems many punters play the girls along by standing them up - seems to give these guys some power surge to know they have girls running after them.
Meeting at the hotel can be even more frightening for us guys too. I met a girl yesterday in a mall after a short chat on cam who was NOTHING like her DIA persona or her appearance on cam. She was absolutely god-awful ugly as sin; fat, lanky oily hair. I would have had a problem if she had arrived at the hotel room as I would have had to kick her out without even letting her in the room.
Luckily I am so dashingly handsome that I never scare girls away in the mall lol. (No smart ass comments from you WR; you know we both take that Brad Pitt pill that you import hehe)[/QUOTE]
Yes RK is certainly right that if anything the stand up risk is even greater for the girls. Some guys will take pleasure in making mall meet up dates with girls WHEN THEY ARE NOT EVEN IN THE COUNTRY, just to have "fun" and show they can have pretty girls run after them. To my mind such behaviour is pretty despicable. It's why girls often insist that you call or text them on a Phils Cell no, so that at least they can be confident that you are actually in the country. Other guys will take a look at the girl standing around waiting for him then not have the decency to even say hello and buy her an ice cream or something, just run away and maybe text her an hour later saying that he say her and she's not for him. It's one thing if she was using a fake photo or is a lady boy or something, but I've known cases like this happening to perfectly attractive girls who provided pics/cam and didn't tell any lies about age etc. generally such girls will have taken maybe an hour to fix herself up, wear nice clothes, maybe 30 mins or an hour plus some pesos to get there, so again I think such behaviour is pretty spineless.
RK is also right in that there are dangers of a meet up in the hotel. I think one has to be pretty thick skinned about this. If the girl turns out to be a LadyBoy or was clearly using a fake photo etc then I will say that she was not what I was lead to expect and give maybe 50P to take a jeep back home. they are usually pissed off by this but I disappear back to the elevator pretty quick and leave hotel security to get them out of there PDQ.
If its just a question of chemistry or how she looks in the light of day, I would tend to take her to the pool area, have a drink or burger etc and then say nice to meet you and give her 100P for transport home.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]
generally such girls will have taken maybe an hour to fix herself up, wear nice clothes, maybe 30 mins or an hour plus some pesos to get there, so again I think such behaviour is pretty spineless.
RK is also right in that there are dangers of a meet up in the hotel. I think one has to be pretty thick skinned about this. If the girl turns out to be a LadyBoy or was clearly using a fake photo etc then I will say that she was not what I was lead to expect and give maybe 50P to take a jeep back home. they are usually pissed off by this but I disappear back to the elevator pretty quick and leave hotel security to get them out of there PDQ.
If its just a question of chemistry or how she looks in the light of day, I would tend to take her to the pool area, have a drink or burger etc and then say nice to meet you and give her 100P for transport home.[/QUOTE]
I always treat them with respect even if chubby, ugly, even a LB (for them just say sorry not my type and move one nicely). Mr E am glad you like the ugly ones saves more for me and RK :D
As for LBs. I always insist on cam (C2C) first and that way you can an idea so for years I have never had an issue. No cam no meet has been my motto and while as a a newbie I made mistakes etc I dont now and also let my judgement work. On one spectacular occassion not that long ago I did not C2C with a girl and still saw her....breaking my own rule but as it turned out well worth it as was Cebu favourite and she has been my favourite ever since.
But generally even she is not your type be nice, some of these girls do take 2 jeepneys and may even told parents or friends so let them enjoy the time and have some respect.
Plenty a**holes dont we know but dont be one of them
RK -= me smart ass comments??...never, have fun with the peach (but then I may see you ;))
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]
As for LBs. I always insist on cam (C2C) first and that way you can an idea so for years I have never had an issue. No cam no meet has been my motto
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This is a good rule ... some girls dont have a webcam then I ask them for their facebook.. in facebook you can tell even better then on cam what the girl is like because she'll have 100's of photos and every aspect of her life is bared there..
Most ladyboys will tell you upfront they are bakla.. but there is a rare breed of lying dickhead who will deny it and insist that he's a woman.. so calling them on the phone first is a good idea to listen to the voice and tell if its a girls voice or hormone modulated guys voice
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]S
After 2 hours they all decided to go home because they were tired, and they dropped me off in my hotel (alone).
Two mins later, I get a text (obviously from the taxi) saying how nice it was to meet me (from the sexy friend).
I messaged back and agreed and said I hoped to see her again and that I was now all alone in my hotel room.
She replied "You like to see me now? If you do, what is room number? "
Ten minutes later we were hard at it, and she stayed all night and multiple shots and for taxi money only.
SO. Don't dismiss all occasions when your girl brings a friend. Sometimes the dark cloud has a very silver lining.[/QUOTE]Isn't it great when you can from total despair to ecstacy in minutes.
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DIA gal in Bohol: kathilynchelo
With a chest like that, I don't see how she can weigh only 88lb.
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Consumer protection agency warns Americans
The US government consumer protection agency has warned Americans to be on the lookout for online dating scams.
"Scammers sometimes use online dating and social networking sites to try to convince people to send money in the name of love," the Federal Trade Commission said.
"In a typical scenario, the scam artist creates a fake profile, gains the trust of an online love interest, and then asks that person to wire money - usually to a location outside the United States," the FTC said.
Wiring money is the same as sending cash, it said, and "once it's gone, it can't be recovered".
The FTC listed a number of "warning signs" people should be aware of when cruising the online dating scene including love interests who seek to "leave the dating site immediately and use personal email or IM accounts".
Online daters should also be aware of potential partners who are "planning to visit, but (are) unable to do so because of a tragic event" or are "claiming instant feelings of love".
"Asking for money to pay for travel, visas or other travel documents, medication, a child or other relative's hospital bills" are other warning signs, the FTC said.
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Has anyone else noticed that boobs look bigger online than when you meet them in person? When I first met a few filipinas I was expecting a more voluptious person but they looked smaller and did not have the figure I was expecting. I brought some new clothes from the US for one girl and they were too big for her. After getting them out of their clothes and further inspection I was very pleased. Now I know.
[QUOTE=X Man]DIA gal in Bohol: kathilynchelo
With a chest like that, I don't see how she can weigh only 88lb.[/QUOTE]
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They wear tricky bras for webcam checkouts. I was surprised also, what looked like minimum for sure 36Bs turned out to be 32As...hahahaha.
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Deceptive Bras
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Has anyone else noticed that boobs look bigger online than when you meet them in person? When I first met a few filipinas I was expecting a more voluptious person but they looked smaller and did not have the figure I was expecting. I brought some new clothes from the US for one girl and they were too big for her. After getting them out of their clothes and further inspection I was very pleased. Now I know.[/QUOTE]
You should assume that all bras are padded until proven otherwise.
I once had a large chested girlfriend who was spilling out of her bra, so I told her we'd get her a bra that fit. I was surprised when store after store had nothing but padded --heavily padded-- bras. We had a hell of a time finding a bra for a large chested girl without any extra padding.
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False Representation
[QUOTE=SergeantRay]You should assume that all bras are padded until proven otherwise. [/QUOTE]
Have you noticed also how Filipinas very rarely wear a properly fitting bra - they haven't a clue how to shop for the correct size so invariably end up with a badly fitting tit sling that create chicken wing bulges in all the wrong places.
Met a DIA girl the other day who looked to have a nice pair. When I got her to the room, I was astonished to find that she was wearing not one but two bras and her actual assets were miniscule. What a cheat! She said that Filipinas often wore two bras but I must admit it is the first time that I have encountered one although I am used to finding them in a double layer of knickers:D.
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Accept me for what I am?
Seems like every other profile on DIA asks that you "accept me for what I am". Is that a code for "I am a ladyboy"?
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[QUOTE=Irony Monger]Seems like every other profile on DIA asks that you "accept me for what I am". Is that a code for "I am a ladyboy"?[/QUOTE]
We had a thread about this topic... basically it means the girl has low opinion of herself.. she might be short, dark, or not pretty.. or whatever
Or she simply copy pasted another profile.
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Correct Bra Size For Buxom Ladies
I had this problem with a lovely gf that I had some time ago. I guess she was D+ or DD, and had no idea of how to correctly fit a bra.
I found a store that stocked larger western sizes. As you go in the main door of Robinsons in Ortigas, it is in maybe 50 to 75 meters on the right.
And the staff in the store were trained how tocorrrectly fit bras. My gf was very pleased indeed that she was comfortable for the first time.
But the store is not cheap.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Have you noticed also how Filipinas very rarely wear a properly fitting bra - they haven't a clue how to shop for the correct size so invariably end up with a badly fitting tit sling that create chicken wing bulges in all the wrong places.
Met a DIA girl the other day who looked to have a nice pair. When I got her to the room, I was astonished to find that she was wearing not one but two bras and her actual assets were miniscule. What a cheat! She said that Filipinas often wore two bras but I must admit it is the first time that I have encountered one although I am used to finding them in a double layer of knickers:D.[/QUOTE]I've found one with three panties.. Was like Christmas, first pair was bif grannie panties, said she wore that to put anyone off, second pair slightly more interesting and third pair just a piece of coloured string. But two bras? Its like whats the point?
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I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:
I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!
1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.
2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)
3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).
4- There are two elements to introduce with girls, the money, and the fact I am not willing to commit fast if I ever decide to commit, and that first is play time and the rest comes or doesn't in most cases. Should that be introduced over dinner or directly when chatting, don't want to create or exploit confusion.
5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation!
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#5 How Many Will Show Up?
It depends how big their family is!
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Bras - The Best Surprise is No Surprise
[QUOTE=David_33]They wear tricky bras for webcam checkouts. I was surprised also, what looked like minimum for sure 36Bs turned out to be 32As...hahahaha.[/QUOTE]When you go into lingerie departments at places like SM you'll see that almost all the bras are heavily padded. Even worse, many are constructed using several layers of material, that effectively disguise whatever is underneath. Best to assume that your Sweety is probably a 32A. I'm a nipple man, so size is a secondary consideration.
Even the genuine 36C's can frequently be less than you hoped for due to their shape often being too rounded, rather than projecting. We can see from the photo galleries that thankfully, there are exceptions to the rule.
So, if we go in expecting less than our inflated expectations, then occasionally we do discover that perfect set of tits.
Guys like WR, who rely heavily on cam previews, end up with a much higher percentage than is the norm.
For the rest of us, expect little and be delightfully thankful when you get more.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]
Have you noticed also how Filipinas very rarely wear a properly fitting bra - they haven't a clue how to shop for the correct size so invariably end up with a badly fitting tit sling that create chicken wing bulges in all the wrong places.
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Took my Cebu favourite to a proper shop for measurement and then we bought good proper size bras. Amazed when she was measured as what she thought she was she so far off....now with the good bras she feels great and is so appreciative ;)
And I buy her panties...well Wicked Weasel accessories etc..bit of differnet coloured string but then we decided wearing no panties was easier...RK - she did that with the black dress the other week...a few heads turned in Ayala...was so rewarding :D You would have liked even though you have seen the peach in the flesh you naughty boy!!
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Accept me for what I am
[QUOTE=Irony Monger]Seems like every other profile on DIA asks that you "accept me for what I am". Is that a code for "I am a ladyboy"?[/QUOTE]I don't believe this is a code for being a ladyboy. Many of the girls are dirt poor and believe that foreigners are wealthy. They are conscious of the economic imbalance. They often ask you to meet their family (not recommended unless you see the girl as long term gf) and will be embarassed at showing you just how poor thier family is. It also often refers to the fact that they have kids - accept me, accept my kids.
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:
I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!
1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.
2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)
3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).
4- There are two elements to introduce with girls, the money, and the fact I am not willing to commit fast if I ever decide to commit, and that first is play time and the rest comes or doesn't in most cases. Should that be introduced over dinner or directly when chatting, don't want to create or exploit confusion.
5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation![/QUOTE]Appearance wise I am 14 years older, have lost most of my hair and no longer have a 6 pack. To address some of your points:
I only contact hot or respond to hot girls in DIA and have had success. I make sure my replies are up front but also slightly cheeky with really corny lines like:
I know when you meet me you will not be able to keep your hands off me.
I don't have sex with anyone on a first date. I have very high standards. But I could make an exception with you.
Just because I am taking you to dinner does not mean I will have sex with you so don't assume anything (yeah right!)
I think you should be up front that you are not willing to commit. It pisses me off the number of guys who tell the girls they are looking for a serious relationship when the reality is that they are after a quick shag. These girls have emotions and feelings and these should be respected. The girls will also value you for being honest with them.
In relation to money. Don't say "I will give you x pesos if you have sex with me. " Offer instead to pay their transport costs. After the deed I am always very generous with this. If they have a kid I might say: "can I give you this for your taxi and to get some milk / food for your kid? "
I have also been contacted by girls on DIA who state in their profile that they have a bf and are just looking for friends. These girls give out as well.
Of the 10 dinner dates it is quite possible that 10 will turn up. Whether they hang around for breakfast is up to you and how you treat them.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Took my Cebu favourite to a proper shop for measurement and then we bought good proper size bras. Amazed when she was measured as what she thought she was she so far off....now with the good bras she feels great and is so appreciative ;)
...................RK - she did that with the black dress the other week...a few heads turned in Ayala...was so rewarding :D You would have liked even though you have seen the peach in the flesh you naughty boy!![/QUOTE]
I never noticed if the bra fitted or not. I was too keen to get the clip unfastened with my trembling fingers.
Hmmmm I better PM you WR. Comments are X-rated
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Sometimes
[QUOTE=Irony Monger]Seems like every other profile on DIA asks that you "accept me for what I am". Is that a code for "I am a ladyboy"?[/QUOTE]
Sometimes it means that but in 90% of cases it will be for other factors eg chubby, kids, poor, dark, short, no education etc
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:
I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!
1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.
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Most guys on DIA are:
- Horny teenagers from India looking for camsex
- Old western and arabic sex tourists
- Penniless filipino guys looking for sugar mommy/free sex/whatever they can get
You'll be fine, just make it clear you are a cool gent and you mean business.
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2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)
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Yes, if you want quality.. you'll have to message them first and win their interest.. I did have a few quality girls who messaged me first, but its rare
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3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).
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If it's too good to be true, then it is a ladyboy (gay man who took hormones) or a scammer (uploaded a celebrity photo).
[quote]5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation![/QUOTE]
Well it depends on the girls you pick and how you treat them.. if you have super high standards, then expect a lot of rejections.. if you want a sure kill, pick a girl with a low self esteem who is really into you.
I am reasonably picky with the ladies and my scorecard looks like this:
- Out of 20 girls you message, 10 will be worth chatting with, 5 will be worth meeting in person and 3 will be willing to stay for "breakfast" :)
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It's all in the photo
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:
I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!
1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.
2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)
3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).
4- There are two elements to introduce with girls, the money, and the fact I am not willing to commit fast if I ever decide to commit, and that first is play time and the rest comes or doesn't in most cases. Should that be introduced over dinner or directly when chatting, don't want to create or exploit confusion.
5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation![/QUOTE]
On DIA everything turns on the photo for the girl. Girl friends of mine have had poor , blurred or conservative photos on line and the only response they will get is from the Indian/Iranian/muslim guys who are messaging just about every girl. She will dutifully send out a nice message to a fellow and get no reply or perhaps some sort of polite interest noted. Then I take a few nice pics of her in a bikini and give her one of the best to upload. The results are astounding. Within seconds or the photo being approved by moderators she will start getting maybe a message every 2 minutes at first. Maybe 400 in the first couple of days. Guys who she messaged maybe 3 months ago with no reply will suddenly write back saying "sorry for the delay in getting back to you blah blah.
Or course guys being the hypocrites they are will often say something along the lines: it's nice to see you have great assets but I really think you should cover up, there all sorts of bad guys on this site. Completely forgetting the fact that they have totally ignored her for 3 months. The ultra high pressure ones will try and persuade her to "go exclusive" even if he is only theoretically coming to the Phils in say 3 months time, they will try all sorts of BS arguments to get her to hand over her passwords so that they can close down her profile.
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It's a two way street
Greg, the reverse is also true. You may start talking to someone, and the second these girls find a better one, they will dump you. The pretty ones are the most eggregious especially if you are not Caucasian. The second they corner a Caucasian while talking to that damsel in distress, and if you are of any other race, they will dump you! The young and pretty ones definitely prefer Caucasians because they produce better looking babies.
Further, the younger and prettier they are, the more likely they will ask for money. The sexier the picture is, the more likely they have been around the block couple of times.
But there are also some gems in the group. I am dating one of them.
I know this because I am not a white old man! The reason the lousy looking girls get a decent response from non-whites is because the pretty ones do not respond to guys who are not good looking, who are not white and who don't have money.
Majority of the girls on these sites know exactly what they are doing, so don't be fooled. Do not send money until you have met the girl in person. She may be bilking more than one of you at a time.
DIA is a good place if everyone is honest. You get to meet some nice girls, but talk first, meet than go beyond that.
Like Greg said if you are bad looking girl tough luck and if you are not a white old man, tough luck too! It is a meat market. If you are looking for personality, visit Phillipines, spend some time, and meet people there through direct interaction or friendly introductions. On these websites, looks carry a lot of weight!
[QUOTE=GregLondon]On DIA everything turns on the photo for the girl. Girl friends of mine have had poor, blurred or conservative photos on line and the only response they will get is from the Indian/Iranian/muslim guys who are messaging just about every girl. She will dutifully send out a nice message to a fellow and get no reply or perhaps some sort of polite interest noted. Then I take a few nice pics of her in a bikini and give her one of the best to upload. The results are astounding. Within seconds or the photo being approved by moderators she will start getting maybe a message every 2 minutes at first. Maybe 400 in the first couple of days. Guys who she messaged maybe 3 months ago with no reply will suddenly write back saying "sorry for the delay in getting back to you blah blah.
Or course guys being the hypocrites they are will often say something along the lines: it's nice to see you have great assets but I really think you should cover up, there all sorts of bad guys on this site.completely forgetting the fact that they have totally ignored her for 3 months. The ultra high pressure ones will try and persuade her to "go exclusive" even if he is only theoretically coming to the Phils in say 3 months time, they will try all sorts of BS arguments to get her to hand over her passwords so that they can close down her profile.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a nomal 35 yo european.
1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.
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Only 35yo? Oh you gwapo boy!
Shoot, a 65yo guy in Manila with cash in hand trumps 30 25yo guys wacking off at the pc back home. Maybe they would dream of a young rich kano. Until then you'll do! You are young anyway, for a guy with the cash to travel to the PI.
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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I'm a newbie on DIA scene but I am facing a few problems:
I'm a nomal 35 yo european. I'm not Brad Pitt, but I'm clearly not Fat Bastard either!
1. On DIA only a handful of girls are hot. 10% or less. Those girls must be contacted by every horny guy going to the phils, so not sure how to stand out.
2- I am only receiving messages from ugly girls. Confirms 1 that the competition only contacts the hot girls (guess that's no surprise!)
3- What to think about the "too good to be true" profile, like super hot girl that says she's opened from all holes (well she says that with her own words).
4- There are two elements to introduce with girls, the money, and the fact I am not willing to commit fast if I ever decide to commit, and that first is play time and the rest comes or doesn't in most cases. Should that be introduced over dinner or directly when chatting, don't want to create or exploit confusion.
5- When a guy makes 10 dinner date on DIA, how many will show up, and how many will accept the brekfast invitation![/QUOTE]
1. Most of the girls post pictures when they werev 16 years old and fresh looking. Never chat without cam. This way you know what she looks like. Most will parade around to show their body. If they show naked it means they are either camgirls or working girls. It really does not matter how many guys they chat with. If you score with her ultimately it is good for you.
2. Maybe you are pushing these girls too hard. Act uninterested will get you better responses. Usually they ask when I am coming to Phi. I reply saying I do not know when I can see her due to previous engagenments. After that they keep on messaging to make sure I meet them.
Ofcourse ugly girls always reply fast. But what do you care? " cover the face and fire the base" should apply. Sometimes ugly girls give best sex as i have evidenced in AC.
3. Nice girls do not talk about sex explicitly. These girls must be pros. I tend to stay away from them. Quite possibly they maybe ladyboys.
4. It looks like you want to find a girl to committ in a relationship including marriage. These things should be taken slowly. Only after meeting many times you can be sure. Even these girls sometimes do not want a relationship. Many want a foreign guy to support them and meet them few times a year. Only some wants to get married to a older guy and move to another country.
5. I have had 80% success rate in making plans and meeting them. About 50% success in having sex. Out of these there some girls I met who I would not have sex with them even if they paid me. I have had sex with two virgins with no promise of marriage. But I did take care of them financially.
I do not give them just taxi fare. I give them more money saying it is for them to buy something. If the girl stayes with me for a few days I buy them lots of gifts and give them some parting money also. None have refused money or gifts.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]...Then I take a few nice pics of her in a bikini and give her one of the best to upload. The results are astounding. Within seconds or the photo being approved by moderators she will start getting maybe a message every 2 minutes at first. Maybe 400 in the first couple of days.....[/QUOTE]
Mr. GL
How comes you have so clear and detailed info about that?
Do you open and read their accounts in that dating sites?
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[QUOTE=Irony Monger]Seems like every other profile on DIA asks that you "accept me for what I am". Is that a code for "I am a ladyboy"?[/QUOTE]I noticed, too, that profiles featuring other ladyboy indications (physical appearance, children undecided, openly stating ladyboy status, etc.) often contain the phrase "accept me for what I am". But I feel it's only kind of reliable in conjunction with those other hints. I also feel that "real" girls wanting to express the wish for acceptance of their social status use the phrase "accept me for [b][I]who[/I][/b] I am" instead. Speaking of semantics, some ladyboys seem to refer to themselves as a "person" and avoid calling themselves "girl". Remember, none of this a surefire way as lots of girls just copy and paste, it worked well for me though as a small red flag prompting me to check for other small red flags. Too many of those and I decide it's not worth the effort to find out if it's really just a wrong impression.
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DIA, Filipino Heart, etc.
[QUOTE=Cool Traveler]
DIA is a good place if everyone is honest. [/QUOTE]
Ha ha, that's like saying prison is good place if it wasnt' for the criminals. These websites are the new Philippines, home to freelancers, lady boys and scam artists. The girls sit in the bars with their 3g phones responding to their "boyfriends", travel to Manila to meet them...cause they are good girls. The "good girls" work the bars as Cherry Girls giving blowjobs all week, but pretend to be living in Samar. Every girl has a phone full of pictures of her family and friends in the province to send to the guy. The guys fly all the way from America or Europe, pay for the cost of planes, hotels, restaurants, at best to be with a couple of girls, when they could go down the street and get the same quality and BS from any bar girl. When next in Angeles, check out the internet cafe's and see the number of girls there, who do you think they are talking to??? And for those girls that are truly in the province, you don't think they know the game???
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LBs
[QUOTE=Lord Balut]I noticed, too, that profiles featuring other ladyboy indications (physical appearance, children undecided, openly stating ladyboy status, etc.) often contain the phrase "accept me for what I am". But I feel it's only kind of reliable in conjunction with those other hints. I also feel that "real" girls wanting to express the wish for acceptance of their social status use the phrase "accept me for [b][I]who[/I][/b] I am" instead. Speaking of semantics, some ladyboys seem to refer to themselves as a "person" and avoid calling themselves "girl". Remember, none of this a surefire way as lots of girls just copy and paste, it worked well for me though as a small red flag prompting me to check for other small red flags. Too many of those and I decide it's not worth the effort to find out if it's really just a wrong impression.[/QUOTE]
Referring to "person" is certainly an indicator as is a height over say 5ft 5in. and uncertain/no re children. I hadn't picked up on the who/what distinction.
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No Mystery about that
[QUOTE=Rampana]Mr. GL
How comes you have so clear and detailed info about that?
Do you open and read their accounts in that dating sites?[/QUOTE]
I travel with a second netbook so that girls can use that whilst I am doing my own work. They will often be checking their dating sites or facebook and call me over to upload a pic form them or help with the wording of their profile or when they have a message they don't understand/want to get my view as to whether the guy is sincere or just BS ing etc. If you have a problem with that - tough.
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[QUOTE=Matius]Ha ha, that's like saying prison is good place if it wasnt' for the criminals. These websites are the new Philippines, home to freelancers, lady boys and scam artists. The girls sit in the bars with their 3g phones responding to their "boyfriends", travel to Manila to meet them...cause they are good girls. The "good girls" work the bars as Cherry Girls giving blowjobs all week, but pretend to be living in Samar. Every girl has a phone full of pictures of her family and friends in the province to send to the guy. The guys fly all the way from America or Europe, pay for the cost of planes, hotels, restaurants, at best to be with a couple of girls, when they could go down the street and get the same quality and BS from any bar girl. When next in Angeles, check out the internet cafe's and see the number of girls there, who do you think they are talking to??? And for those girls that are truly in the province, you don't think they know the game???[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly! These guys who insist it is different, have never been here long enough to see what is happening in the real Philippines
Just heard first hand of a girl who does not want to leave here Filipino bf even though the American has bought her family a house and pays for her and her sister''s education!
Not to mention the money her and her bf enjoy spending.
Welcome to PI!
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Open your eyes gentlemen!
[QUOTE=Matius]Ha ha, that's like saying prison is good place if it wasnt' for the criminals. These websites are the new Philippines, home to freelancers, lady boys and scam artists. The girls sit in the bars with their 3g phones responding to their "boyfriends", travel to Manila to meet them...cause they are good girls. The "good girls" work the bars as Cherry Girls giving blowjobs all week, but pretend to be living in Samar. Every girl has a phone full of pictures of her family and friends in the province to send to the guy. The guys fly all the way from America or Europe, pay for the cost of planes, hotels, restaurants, at best to be with a couple of girls, when they could go down the street and get the same quality and BS from any bar girl. When next in Angeles, check out the internet cafe's and see the number of girls there, who do you think they are talking to??? And for those girls that are truly in the province, you don't think they know the game???[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly! These guys who insist it is different, have never been here long enough to see what is happening in the real Philippines
Just heard first hand of a girl who does not want to leave here Filipino bf even though the American has bought her family a house and pays for her and her sister''s education!
Not to mention the money her and her bf enjoy spending.
Welcome to PI!
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Good apples, bad apples
[QUOTE=Frank4220]My thoughts exactly! These guys who insist it is different, have never been here long enough to see what is happening in the real Philippines
Just heard first hand of a girl who does not want to leave here Filipino bf even though the American has bought her family a house and pays for her and her sister''s education!
Not to mention the money her and her bf enjoy spending.
Welcome to PI![/QUOTE]
I think stories like this are very useful reminders of the type of exploitation of some guys that does go on. On the other hand, it would be a great mistake to assume ALL Filipinas are like this. The 2 girls that I've known who have married foreigners over the last year have ( to date) been exemplary wives. Cynics will of course say that it will end in tears and I think they may well be proved right for various compatibility issues. (In one case she is smarter/more vivacious/charismatic than he, in the other the age/looks gap is so dramatic that I suspect it may lead to problems once they are settled in the west.), but at least for now everyone is very happy with their side of the "bargain".
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Do the pay sites offer value?
Back to Phils soon, so need to decide whether its worth forking out ofr Cherry Blossom and /or Filipina Heart.
I know the search facilities are better on these but in people's opinion, can one find a type of girl there not to be found on DIA / Tagged and Person.com?
If the answer is yes, which of those two is the better in your opinion?
GL
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Back to Phils soon, so need to decide whether its worth forking out ofr Cherry Blossom and /or Filipina Heart.
I know the search facilities are better on these but in people's opinion, can one find a type of girl there not to be found on DIA / Tagged and Person.com?
If the answer is yes, which of those two is the better in your opinion?
GL[/QUOTE]I think it is much of a muchness. I have used CB and had considerable success there. It attracts similar types of girls that I have encountered on DIA. There are the usual types: girls only interested in serious relationships, girls who respond to "I am only looking for fun" messages I have sent, ladyboys, cam girls, scammers, and sob stories.
Many girls will use more than one dating agency, and have profiles on DIA, CB, FH, Cebuana etc. I spent 2 weeks in Phils in October. Met 11 girls - 7 from DIA and 4 from CB. I joined CB just to spread the net further.
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Good to share ideas and info!
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I think stories like this are very useful reminders of the type of exploitation of some guys that does go on. On the other hand, it would be a great mistake to assume ALL Filipinas are like this. The 2 girls that I've known who have married foreigners over the last year have ( to date) been exemplary wives. Cynics will of course say that it will end in tears and I think they may well be proved right for various compatibility issues. (In one case she is smarter/more vivacious/charismatic than he, in the other the age/looks gap is so dramatic that I suspect it may lead to problems once they are settled in the west.), but at least for now everyone is very happy with their side of the "bargain".[/QUOTE]
No doubt lots of people have a successful union with a Filipino wife. I still think the right Filipino lady can be a fantastic wife.
I think the problems arise when a 65 year old guy is hooking up with a 20 something girl. No matter how cool and handsome we may think we are, it just is not nature's way.
These girls are a lot more savvy and street smart than given credit for and some will do whatever it takes to get to the west. Including marriage.
I also think some people fail to recognize the obligation and strength of the ties to their families and the pressure for them to support the clan.
This is definitely the case with 99.999% of the bar girls and the majority of the OFW's . No doubt this influences many of their decisions.
I know of older guys that have married young bar girls, but they do not take them out of the country. A wise move in my mind. Some bar girls if you meet them early in their career can maybe be ok, but after any length of time they have been involved with a lot of men and it is difficult in my opinion to ever trust them. After any length of time thy are just too into the game.
As for regular everyday girls,I see 100's of sexy 18 plus girls every week, where I live here in the Philippines. Would I like to play with them...of course! But common sense tells me that marriage is not in the cards. Their only interested in some extra cash and some entertainment.
IT amazes may to this day that some guys,think the really hot girl they found on DIA or other internet site has no Filipino bf? That is just not realistic.
However if two people are willing to swap an older mans money for a young girl's time...then who am I to say.
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Just got to laugh at the ebay mentality that someone sitting in America can discern what he is getting by spending mindless hours chatting with a girl in samar. Only to have his whole vacation wrapped up with a couple of girls he has been wasting time with on the internet.
This is not a statement on Filipina girls being good girlfriends or wives, its a matter of limiting one's selection and trying to sort through all the scams on these dating sites, and in most cases you won't be able to (except for the obvious cam sex girl).
Westerners assume things here are the same as their home country. There is no seedy parts of town in the provinces where all the working girls live. Most living areas are seedy, so the working girls live, know and socialize with the "good" girls. All the girls have cousins, sisters or friends working the bars and working the internet. Whether it is fishing for a long-term sponsor (husband, boyfriend, etc), or a short term income generator, they all talk and compare notes. When the westerner comes to visit the girl, she does not take him to her bar in Makati or Angeles, she takes him to her house and family. No one is going to tell him that she is a working girl, or that she has five other "boyfriends" that visit, or that she is simply looking for any man that can support her and the family.
If one wants to find a good girl for a long-term serious relationship then the leg work and time will have to be spent in person. If one is just looking for sex, then the selection, cost and convenience is much better in the bars. Sitting at home with nothing to do, I would rather watch a movie than waste my time with mindless chatter on the internet.
For those who report how successful they've been in getting girls off the internet, again you don't understand the culture here. One can get 8 out of 10 single girls to have sex with you, if you have a small amount of culture and politeness. Whether working in a shop, sari sari or meeting them on the street, its so easy here, the locals don't waste their time every night chatting with girls on the internet.
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[QUOTE=Matius]Just got to laugh at the ebay mentality that someone sitting in America can discern what he is getting by spending mindless hours chatting with a girl in samar. Only to have his whole vacation wrapped up with a couple of girls he has been wasting time with on the internet.
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Internet chatter does get tiresome, it's fair to say 95% of the girls you meet on the internet have absolutely NOTHING interesting to say.. due to their poverty they have a narrow social life (usually just their family and school mates), have not travelled outside their province, spend their spare time in videoke bar and netcafe playing facebook games, and have the mental maturity of a western 13 year old...
So yea.. if all you need is a hole to stick your rod into.. prostitute bars are much better use of your time and money...
On the other hand, occasionally you'll meet a genuine gem online who will give you a girlfriend experience you will not get in bars.. is it worth the time and effort? For me.. yes
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Back to Phils soon, so need to decide whether its worth forking out ofr Cherry Blossom and /or Filipina Heart.
I know the search facilities are better on these but in people's opinion, can one find a type of girl there not to be found on DIA / Tagged and Person.com?
If the answer is yes, which of those two is the better in your opinion?
GL[/QUOTE]
My answer is Yes.. and here are some reasons...
- Pay sites have a much better girl/guy ratio, because the guys pay and for the girls its free
- I cant remember ever meeting a ladyboy on a paysite... they are not welcome there and will have profiles deleted
- Less timewasters and girls who are just curious.. most girls you'll meet there are keen to meetup in person
- There are no hordes of indian and arab teenagers looking for camsex (a major problem on free sites)
- You can search by location (province, city) which is useful
- More than one photo can be uploaded to the profile
- The 60 bucks you pay for access is really a minor investment considering your overall trip costs and I think is worth it
Can you find a girl on a paysite that isnt found on a freesite? Absolutely.. in fact I met 3 women on paysites that became my long term friends.. one is an architect in malaysia, one is a manager for a filipino telecom company, and the third one is a specialist doctor...
On DIA I only met brainless fucktoys.. I am digging my memory for any exceptions but nothing comes to mind.
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Nothing wrong with brainless fucktoys!
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist] On DIA I only met brainless fucktoys.. [/QUOTE]
I wonder how many members read this statement and thought 'but thats exactly what I'm looking for':D
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]I wonder how many members read this statement and thought 'but thats exactly what I'm looking for':D[/QUOTE]No brains = no headaches.
Slippery f/k/a PLC
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Cherry Blossoms Dating Site
I use Cherry Blossoms, because of the superior search engine that it has.
The criteria against which you can search are:
country
nationality
education level
employment type
religion
last login date
newest members
photo
age range - by specific yeear
marital status
race
height range - by 1" steps
weight range
children
drink
smoke
province
city
You can save your search with a name, so you can build a set of standard searches.
There is also a facility called Match, where you can put in your criteria, and the system will provide lists of gals who fit your search criteria.
It has chat, online, and other services that I have not used.
So if you are looking for someone for intelligent conversation, just up the qualification level.
I am no Adonis, but I have not yet met with a lady from CB who did not want to sleep with me. Except for a couple of virgins that I knew about already. But other virgins who were very happy to be deflowered. I can't remember any asking for money. Almost all were GFE, only a few did not give bbbj, all CIM and swallow. They are regular filipinas, most are educated, good conversation, good fun.
I did a test, and found that it has 60,000 women and 10,000 men registered.
For your consideration.
G
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Cherry Blossoms
I have just started using Cherry Blossoms for my next trip and the one feature I like besides the ones listed below is the ability to block emails. So for example, I have set my criteria so that no one above a certain age can email me. This really cuts down on the emails that I have to sort thru and delete.
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[QUOTE=Gangles]The criteria against which you can search are:[/QUOTE]
At the dating site "AfroIndroductions" (which I just happened to accidentally stumble upon while looking for a Christian Science Reading Room) I noticed they have the added search criteria:
Bust Cup Size
Polygamy (can you accept)
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Dating Site Search Engines
I was going to spend some time in Thailand, and I wanted to explore married women.
One of the Thai sites has criteria for married, which I selected. So I was only looking at married women. Not many. But there was no doubt that they banged, they were bored, no stuffing around, and there were no messy ties.
It worked well, good fun. There were a couple of women that really knocked my socks off. All they wanted was attention, intimacy, and a good root, with raging orgasms.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I travel with a second netbook so that girls can use that whilst I am doing my own work. They will often be checking their dating sites or facebook and call me over to upload a pic form them or help with the wording of their profile or when they have a message they don't understand/want to get my view as to whether the guy is sincere or just BS ing etc. If you have a problem with that - tough.[/QUOTE]
well - well -well
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[QUOTE=Rampana]well - well -well
doing so will be an ethical issue
I am not feeling comfortable with the idea writing to a girl and knowing that some fellow mongerer might read that.......
As I know this -atleast from you - I will be more careful about that from now on....
just my humble opinion[/QUOTE]
Hahaha.. Did I just read the word "ethical" on a whoring forum? :)
I also had some fun chatting with guys from a girl's dating account while she was visiting me and using one of my notebooks.. we'd warm him up with x-rated commentary and then turn on the webcam and I would show my unshaven face in cam.. their reaction is pure comedy :D if that was you.. sorry hahaha
Cant be any less ethical than posting a girl's naked photos on the ISG Photo gallery section.. or is there something wrong with my understanding of ethical?
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Cant be any less ethical than posting a girl's naked photos on the ISG Photo gallery section.. or is there something wrong with my understanding of ethical?[/QUOTE]
fooling with other guys definitely YES
How would you feel if something would play that kind of game with you?
Would you also have such a funny face expression if you suddenly would look into a unshaved face?
OMG
you have ANY common sense?
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist] I also had some fun chatting with guys from a girl's dating account while she was visiting me and using one of my notebooks.. we'd warm him up with x-rated commentary and then turn on the webcam and I would show my unshaven face in cam.. their reaction is pure comedy :D if that was you.. sorry hahaha[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I know some guys who get off big time by doing this. Guess its the big 'I'm here and your there' thing.
If it is so much fun why not cut out the girl completely and just pretend to be available pussy yourself? String a poor sucker along for a while and then reveal yourself in all your sordid glory.
I imagine sad losers would get a big orgasmic kick out of that. But most of us just see it for what it is.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]
If it is so much fun why not cut out the girl completely and just pretend to be available pussy yourself? String a poor sucker along for a while and then reveal yourself in all your sordid glory.
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Nah.. it's only fun when drunk and with the girl sitting next to you.. in fact she asked me to do it, cause the jack ass was really annoying.. using the yahoo buzzer repeatedly and demanding to see the cam, the moment she logs in.. pacifying the horny toad with a good dose of shock therapy was just what the doctor ordered ;) he's not buzzing anymore :D
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She might just delete and block annoying fools, its easier.
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Actually, I had a similar experience when I was in the Philippines with my wife. (I am a happily married former mongerer.)
My wife and I were in a net cafe while I was checking my business email. Next to us, one of my wife's friends was chatting with some American idiot jacking off on cam. The friend was not on cam, but had a bunch of her friends watching over her shoulder laughing at the American guy with his dick in hand and his tongue wagging out of his mouth.
When I done with my email, I briefly went over to the friend's computer to see what all the commotion was about. My wife and I decided to leave when the friend, giggling with her friends, asked the American to show his naked butt.
These Filipinas are not so sweet and innocent as they appear.
RG
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Nah.. it's only fun when drunk and with the girl sitting next to you.. in fact she asked me to do it, cause the jack ass was really annoying.. using the yahoo buzzer repeatedly and demanding to see the cam, the moment she logs in.. pacifying the horny toad with a good dose of shock therapy was just what the doctor ordered ;) he's not buzzing anymore :D[/QUOTE]
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Not making any judgement or anything but just curious what a happily married "former monger" would be doing on a mongering sex site? Just curious.
[QUOTE=Radical Guy]Actually, I had a similar experience when I was in the Philippines with my wife. (I am a happily married former mongerer.)
RG[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Can you find a girl on a paysite that isn't found on a freesite? Absolutely. In fact I met 3 women on paysites that became my long term friends. One is an architect in Malaysia, one is a manager for a Filipino telecom company, and the third one is a specialist doctor.[/QUOTE]But I found similar professionals on DIA. Teachers, lady who runs her own business, dentist, call centre manager.
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Different strokes for different folks
[QUOTE=Matius]Just got to laugh at the ebay mentality that someone sitting in America can discern what he is getting by spending mindless hours chatting with a girl in samar. Only to have his whole vacation wrapped up with a couple of girls he has been wasting time with on the internet.
This is not a statement on Filipina girls being good girlfriends or wives, its a matter of limiting one's selection and trying to sort through all the scams on these dating sites, and in most cases you won't be able to (except for the obvious cam sex girl).
Westerners assume things here are the same as their home country. There is no seedy parts of town in the provinces where all the working girls live. Most living areas are seedy, so the working girls live, know and socialize with the "good" girls. All the girls have cousins, sisters or friends working the bars and working the internet. Whether it is fishing for a long-term sponsor (husband, boyfriend, etc), or a short term income generator, they all talk and compare notes. When the westerner comes to visit the girl, she does not take him to her bar in Makati or Angeles, she takes him to her house and family. No one is going to tell him that she is a working girl, or that she has five other "boyfriends" that visit, or that she is simply looking for any man that can support her and the family.
If one wants to find a good girl for a long-term serious relationship then the leg work and time will have to be spent in person. If one is just looking for sex, then the selection, cost and convenience is much better in the bars. Sitting at home with nothing to do, I would rather watch a movie than waste my time with mindless chatter on the internet.
For those who report how successful they've been in getting girls off the internet, again you don't understand the culture here. One can get 8 out of 10 single girls to have sex with you, if you have a small amount of culture and politeness. Whether working in a shop, sari sari or meeting them on the street, its so easy here, the locals don't waste their time every night chatting with girls on the internet.[/QUOTE]
I would not be quite so scornful of those who prefer interaction via the internet Matius. Different people are in different positions. You may be a in a position where you can wander out to a mall any time you feel like it and flirt with a cute Filipina, get her mobile no and arrange a date, but the majority of guys on this list are not in this position. If you are sitting in Akron, Ohio you can turn on your TV and get 100 channels or signup to netflix and watch any movie you wish to whenever you want. But movies and porn are not "interactive", they are passive you just sit their and receive info without any two way flow. What people yearn for is this interactivity. That's why guys will spend hours in front of a computer trying to get some Filipina to reveal a shot of her probably not very impressive boobs in blurry web cam footage when he could just flick channels on his 52 inch LCD TV and watch hi def porn in gynecological detail with exceptionally endowed porno sluts.
You are certainly right that there is something strange and illogical about internet dating. I have felt that for example if I make a date to meet an internet contact at some mall and I'm waiting 45 mins for her to show up. What am I doing waiting for this particular girl who is probably no more or less attractive than hundreds of other girls in this mall wandering around several of whom may smile at me? I know next to nothing about her, it's not as if I'm waiting for a buddy I knew 20 years ago, infact these other girls I know better than her because at least I can see them in the flesh, know they are real can speak to them right then and there if I wish. And if that's weird, when all I have done is taken a 10 mins jeep ride to Ayala how much more weird to fly all across the Pacific and maybe get to some distant and remote Province just to see a particular girl who in reality is only fractionally less of a stranger to me than 20 million others.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Hahaha.. Did I just read the word "ethical" on a whoring forum? :)
I also had some fun chatting with guys from a girl's dating account while she was visiting me and using one of my notebooks.. we'd warm him up with x-rated commentary and then turn on the webcam and I would show my unshaven face in cam.. their reaction is pure comedy :D if that was you.. sorry hahaha
Cant be any less ethical than posting a girl's naked photos on the ISG Photo gallery section.. or is there something wrong with my understanding of ethical?[/QUOTE]
Well if you didn't realise already then it's certainly something to be aware of that when you send a message to a girl, she has not signed a confidentiality agreement and may chose to show that message to whoever she likes. That's just the way the internet works and if you are not comfortable with it, you had better stop using it. I would agree with one of the earlier comments that if the situation is a guy deliberately trying to make fun of sincere guys it's pretty shallow and unethical behaviour. There are situations as described by FBA when guys are being idiots so maybe pulling something like FBA describes is reasonable. As for myself, when i have found a new potential female contact that I may have doubts about then i will often call over my GF if she is in the room and ask her opinion for example is this girl a ladyboy, does her claim to be a nursing student stack up etc? Of course Filipinas find it much easier to identify such things than we do and might say, Ok ask her which campus of the college does she go to.
Similarly if my GF is hunting for a Western husband she might say come and read this, is this guy for real? Is what he is saying plausible? It's very difficult for a Filipina to separate the wheat from the chaf because they have never been abroad met just a handful of guys etc, whereas I can generally tell very quickly what type of guy he is, or suggest some question she may ask to better judge his true intentions.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Well if you didn't realise already then it's certainly something to be aware of that when you send a message to a girl, she has not signed a confidentiality agreement and may chose to show that message to whoever she likes. [/QUOTE]
Oh fuck, do you mean to say that Ive been pouring out my heart and soul to that cute little doxy I met online yesterday and she might not be sincere? I'm heartbroken;).
Wikileak is in the news at the moment. What we could do with on ISG is something similar to give us all a laugh! Should we call it willileaks or more appropriately pussyleaks?, both apt if rather disgusting titles:D.
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Couldnt find the " shame about the Aussies " forum so thought Id start here.
So Mr Kilt, how are your chaps doing in the cricket. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.
I'm not sure if WR is one of us or one of you. Got a foot in both camps (no WR I'm not calling you camp!)
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I would not be quite so scornful of those who prefer interaction via the internet Matius. Different people are in different positions. You may be a in a position where you can wander out to a mall any time you feel like it and flirt with a cute Filipina, get her mobile no and arrange a date, but the majority of guys on this list are not in this position. If you are sitting in Akron, Ohio you can turn on your TV and get 100 channels or signup to netflix and watch any movie you wish to whenever you want. But movies and porn are not "interactive", they are passive you just sit their and receive info without any two way flow. What people yearn for is this interactivity. That's why guys will spend hours in front of a computer trying to get some Filipina to reveal a shot of her probably not very impressive boobs in blurry web cam footage when he could just flick channels on his 52 inch LCD TV and watch hi def porn in gynecological detail with exceptionally endowed porno sluts.
You are certainly right that there is something strange and illogical about internet dating. I have felt that for example if I make a date to meet an internet contact at some mall and I'm waiting 45 mins for her to show up. What am I doing waiting for this particular girl who is probably no more or less attractive than hundreds of other girls in this mall wandering around several of whom may smile at me? I know next to nothing about her, it's not as if I'm waiting for a buddy I knew 20 years ago, infact these other girls I know better than her because at least I can see them in the flesh, know they are real can speak to them right then and there if I wish. And if that's weird, when all I have done is taken a 10 mins jeep ride to Ayala how much more weird to fly all across the Pacific and maybe get to some distant and remote Province just to see a particular girl who in reality is only fractionally less of a stranger to me than 20 million others.[/QUOTE]
So well written, had to read it a couple of times and still not sure if it was sarcasim. Never the less enjoyed it. I think your first point is that an interactive wank is much more enjoyable than watching a porn movie. I think with the comments from previous members, the interactive portion is all the more enjoyable as the girl, her friends, family, strangers gathered around the internet cafe watch some slob choke his chicken. They then can record it to their phone to show those who missed the live action.
Then your second point about flying half way around the world to meet up with that special someone who told her Filipino boyfriend she hooked one, or her mamasan she has fever and can't come to work.
My point remains for those who can actually come to the Philippines, your time spent on the dating sites is wasted. Any one can line up girls by the hundreds of equal to or better quality than the couple you are wasting time with on the internet. Don't care how old you are, how much you weigh or whether you have hair. If you shower daily, have a basic amount of charm, you will not have a problem here. I feel for guys who have the financial means, want to, but for whatever reason just won't board the plane to come here.
One thing I do miss, wish we had that many movie channels here. ha ha
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Well if you didn't realise already then it's certainly something to be aware of that when you send a message to a girl, she has not signed a confidentiality agreement and may chose to show that message to whoever she likes. That's just the way the internet works and if you are not comfortable with it, you had better stop using it. I would agree with one of the earlier comments that if the situation is a guy deliberately trying to make fun of sincere guys it's pretty shallow and unethical behaviour. There are situations as described by FBA when guys are being idiots so maybe pulling something like FBA describes is reasonable. As for myself, when i have found a new potential female contact that I may have doubts about then i will often call over my GF if she is in the room and ask her opinion for example is this girl a ladyboy, does her claim to be a nursing student stack up etc? Of course Filipinas find it much easier to identify such things than we do and might say, Ok ask her which campus of the college does she go to.
Similarly if my GF is hunting for a Western husband she might say come and read this, is this guy for real? Is what he is saying plausible? It's very difficult for a Filipina to separate the wheat from the chaf because they have never been abroad met just a handful of guys etc, whereas I can generally tell very quickly what type of guy he is, or suggest some question she may ask to better judge his true intentions.[/QUOTE]
Hi GL,
this I can agree now. It is somehow understandable for a naive guy like me. lol.
ram
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Meeting Women On Dating Sites
mathius,
i agree that any guy with a few dollars can fly to the philippines and line up hundreds of women.
but these are *****s, bargirls, from brothels, street walkers. they can also be lined up via dating sites, and i agree that this can be wasteful. but also, meeting semi pros over the internet gives an opportunity to screen them first, rather than take pot luck, and also creates an atmosphere of anticipation in both parties, and generally turns up low mileage, sincere, gfe type women.
what you can not find easily on the streets is regular, educated filipinas, which you can find on dating sites.
it takes time and effort, but for the guys who are looking for the real filipina, the true girlfriend, the dating site enables him to speed up the meeting process. i have no doubt that the women that i have found by dating site, i could never have found in a short stay of a few days.
to each his own.
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Girls from Dia - ups and downs
Hello, all together
Some weeks ago I was writing some words about dia-girls I met in manila (manila threat, number 6136). Now I am back and will tell you some more stories.
Lets say by the words from forest gump: dia girls are a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. Thats so true. Keep in mind: not every filipina is a stunner, not every girl wants to have sex after 5 minutes, but also you can find some wonderful surprises. One thing seems to me important: often you need some time, more then maybe only one day, a lot of chatting or texting before. I will give you some examples and start with the most strange one: A.
The A story
Met A. Maybe 4 weeks before my departure, a lot of chatting in dia and yahoo by cam (thats important, some girls are really different in reality then they are in the dia-picture). A. Is from Cagayan de Oro and told me about the island camiguin. I checked it in the web and thought its a nice place to go to. I asked A. If she wants to join me, and she said yes. While chatting she told me that she never had a boyfriend before, that she never kissed and that she is 18 but virgin. I thought: wow, can become some nice days with her.coming to Cagayan we met immediately, she showed up with her mother and one sister. We went for a little dinner, talked a lot and she agreed to go with me next morning to the island, which is 2 hours by boat from cagayan. She refused spending the last night with me in the hotel, said she will be there 7. 30 am next morning. And showed up 7. 15, with a suitcase more or less as big as mine. She had 7 jeans for a 3 day trip)))
Everything she said before was right. She was still a innocent girl. No experience in kissing or sex, and. She did not want to make it. Wow. She told me that she feels not matured. Was very nice, friendly, great to talk with. But asked me not too touch her. This was a shock in the first moment, then I decided that it is okay, and that I will see more my little sister in her. Okay, after 2 days there was something like a shy kiss (like a kiss you give your mom at Christmas), thats all. Anway, it was a nice and relaxed time, I did a lot of reading, and she did as well. Her book was about "beautiness of purity", why girls should not dress too sexy and keep themselfes pure till marriage. It was strange, but it was okay. And from the time I was leaving her, she did not stopp texting to me how wonderful the trip has been, and that she will see me again.
The B story
As A I was texting with B some weeks before my departure, she is from Cebu and told me that she has strict parents, have to be at home at 8pm but free time in the afternoon. We met in ayala, had a coffee at starbucks and went straight to the hotel after that. B told me that she is so curious in having sex with foreigners, that she has had 2 american guys before, one was okay, one not soo much. So I tried to tell this 18 yo lady to show how germans can do, and it seems she was not unsatisfied. Good kissing, sweet small boobs, a bit unexperienced in giving full satisfaction, but vey willing to learn. After some hours she had to go home, I gave her 700 "taxi money", and she seems to agree absoltely with that. Gave me a lot of textings the next days, that she wants to continue. Even if she was nice, I tried to make other experiences and answered always polite, but never met her again.
The C, the and E girls
The three girls C. D. And E. Are all from Cebu, seems to be very willing to meet and did a lot of texting. I made appointements with them, but they never showed up. 2 never contacted me again, one came with strange excuses. I decided not to contact her any more.
A girl named F.
Met F. At dia on Wednesday morning and told her that I am in cebu right now, she asked if we can meet early afternoon. F. Was far away from good looking, but she was nice. Active in a opposition group at her university, smart, clever. We had a one hour coffee-meeting at ayala, then she had to go. Which was totaly ok in my eyes, I had a appointement with G. As well, and was not interested in closer contact. Anyway F. Was nice, and continued some light texting in the following days.
The G..Girl
Its a bit strange to have appointements with girls in a 2-hour-rythm, but I did so, because these dia-girls have a lot of no-shows. G. Came. She is 20, a bit chubby and shy. Nice, but not my type. So I decided to stay at ayala for one more coffee with her, then going back alone. Seemed to me, that she agrees as well in doing that. We did. Starting one day later G. Became very enthusiastic in texting, telling me she wants to meet again. But I have been on my way to manila.
H. From Manila
Asked 3 girls in manila for a meeting, two did never show up, H. Came. We met in front of my hotel. Guys, thats something I learned: ask the girls to come to a place which is convenient for you. If they want, they can manage to go to every direction. And if it is a no-show it is much better for you if you wait on your hotel bed then running through the half city to a place where you have nothing to do.
Well, H. Came in the evening. We went for a small dinner, then going back to the room. She came with me, but was not enthusiastic in closer contact. So we have been only sitting arround and talking, anyway it was a nice time. Obligatory texting when she went home after some hours, she wanted to meet again the next day, I agreed. H. Has such sweet eyes
H. Suggested me to go to a disco next evening (paddies place), asking if she can bring 2 friends with her, I agreed and she showed up with 3 friends (2 guys, one girl). First I have been a bit angry, then I thought: why not. The whole beer and food damage for all 5 of us was arround 2000 peso, and if this is a way how to make some young falks happy, why not. I left disco with her arround 2am, the others stayed, we went to hotel. There was nothing more to see from the shy girl. Had some wild more hours. After breakfast she had to go home, but came back in the evening. I went back to home next day, so she did not stay overnight. I gave her 1300 pesos which I had left, and she seemed to be really deep happy about it.
The I. Girl
I. Is one of the biggest surprises. I met her in dia after my arrival at Philippines 3 weeks ago. She wanted to meet, but had no time at this day. After that contact there was a long time of silence, then her texting came suddenly. I told her to come to my hotel 1 hour after H. Went home, and was sure for 100 % that she is a typical now show. But she came. And wow, she was the only girl I met who looked much better in reality then on her dia-picture. We went for a coffee in starbucks, then back to the hotel. After 2 minutes of talking, she started a wonderful, deep and unforgetable kissing. Cloths went of, and we had a wonderful time. When she went home after some hours, I wanted to give her 1000 taxi money. She looked at me, seems like with some tears in her eyes and said that she will not accept something. I told her thousand sorries. She went home, and texted "100 thanks for being so nice to me". I will try to stay in contact with her even from my home.
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]Not making any judgement or anything but just curious what a happily married "former monger" would be doing on a mongering sex site? Just curious.[/QUOTE]
There's a warm spot in my heart for the "good ol' days." I participate purely for entertainment. My wife enjoys reading the posts also, as she finds the whole subject area amazing, especially Dragon Slayer's forum. Sometimes we read them together.
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Ah ok thats cool. Its kinda like a recoverd alcoholic hanging out in a bar sipping Iced Tea because they like the atmosphere. Thats good you have a cool wife. Do you two expieriment outside your marriage with others? Its an interesting subject.
[QUOTE=Radical Guy]There's a warm spot in my heart for the "good ol' days." I participate purely for entertainment. My wife enjoys reading the posts also, as she finds the whole subject area amazing, especially Dragon Slayer's forum. Sometimes we read them together.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]So Mr Kilt, how are your chaps doing in the cricket. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.
I'm not sure if WR is one of us or one of you. Got a foot in both camps (no WR I'm not calling you camp!)[/QUOTE]
LOL
FF RK knows am a Pom for cricket.....and yes am enjoying watching it..not as much as lovely slim shaved pinay pussy but still a lovely time to be a Pom
RK...has been very quiet for a few days but am sure he is plotting his next trip to Cebu for more peaches....he sort of over indulged last time ;)
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]LOL
FF RK knows am a Pom for cricket.....and yes am enjoying watching it..not as much as lovely slim shaved pinay pussy but still a lovely time to be a Pom
RK...has been very quiet for a few days but am sure he is plotting his next trip to Cebu for more peaches....he sort of over indulged last time ;)[/QUOTE]
F%@$!^& cricket. I am dismayed. After 20 years of pouring shit on all the Pommies I can find with the Aussie dominance of world cricket I now have to sit back and cop it coming back on me.
Life isn't fair LOL.
On more important matters more pertinent to the target population of this board: WR is correct. I over-indulged in Cebu last week. After a rather hectic week of fitting shagging in between work (which quickly became fitting work in between shagging), I poured myself back onto the plane and returned to my sedate position in society here in Manila.
I know this isnt the Cebu thread but as an aside I found Ayala Mall a bit quiet for trawling this trip, and Lone Star bar still far and away the best light entertainment venue. Pump disco destroyed my hearing.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]F%at$! & cricket. I am dismayed. After 20 years of pouring shit on all the Pommies I can find with the Aussie dominance of world cricket I now have to sit back and cop it coming back on me.
Life isn't fair LOL.
On more important matters more pertinent to the target population of this board: WR is correct. I over-indulged in Cebu last week. After a rather hectic week of fitting shagging in between work (which quickly became fitting work in between shagging), I poured myself back onto the plane and returned to my sedate position in society here in Manila.
I know this isn't the Cebu thread but as an aside I found Ayala Mall a bit quiet for trawling this trip, and Lone Star bar still far and away the best light entertainment venue. Pump disco destroyed my hearing.[/QUOTE]Its called Karma, mate! I hear England are thinking of declaring at 1000 for 3. Massive LOL.
FYI just broke my Freebiecherry here in Taipei with a cute Indonesian. Dropped her off at a subway station, and now going to scout out next weeks target amongst the helpers and care providers who are nicely gathered in target groups, of Filipinas to the left and Indonesians to the right.
Congrats on surviving the over indulgence. Its one thing we have in common and one that even Aussies are good at. Because they sure can't bat nor bowl at the moment. Extra loud LOL.
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Harem scheduling
[QUOTE=Germanboy 2]The girls C. D. E. F. G. H. I...Z [/QUOTE]
I have a question for you guys who chat with 10+ girls and manage to arrange a meeting with all of them.. where do you find the time to keep in touch with them all?
Having a full time job I find it hard to keep a regular chat with 2 or 3.. what do you do, just tell them "I am coming 2 weeks from now, leave me your phone number I'll txt you when I am there" ?
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]I have a question for you guys who chat with 10+ girls and manage to arrange a meeting with all of them.. where do you find the time to keep in touch with them all?
Having a full time job I find it hard to keep a regular chat with 2 or 3.. what do you do, just tell them "I am coming 2 weeks from now, leave me your phone number I'll txt you when I am there" ?[/QUOTE]The secret is to chat to lots of them (during work breaks etc, text them a bit as many don't receive many overseas texts and the charmer is to call them, once or twice (both so that you are sure that she's a girl, and that she can converse with you) and also so she thinks she's "special)
Then when you are in country you play juggling games and see how many you can fit in., You make wild and wonderful excuses for not being able to see one (a leaking pipe in my condo has been successfully used often as it sounds quite probable)
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]F%@$!^& cricket. I am dismayed. After 20 years of pouring shit on all the Pommies I can find with the Aussie dominance of world cricket I now have to sit back and cop it coming back on me.
Life isn't fair LOL.
On more important matters more pertinent to the target population of this board: WR is correct. I over-indulged in Cebu last week. After a rather hectic week of fitting shagging in between work (which quickly became fitting work in between shagging), I poured myself back onto the plane and returned to my sedate position in society here in Manila.
I know this isnt the Cebu thread but as an aside I found Ayala Mall a bit quiet for trawling this trip, and Lone Star bar still far and away the best light entertainment venue. Pump disco destroyed my hearing.[/QUOTE]
Cricket is fine if a Pom and about time the Aussies got it in the neck :D
As for your work/shagging trip..you are showing your age :) Pump is fine for young men like me....and also the peach destroyed your libido for a while but she did enjoy the time :D
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist].. what do you do, just tell them "I am coming 2 weeks from now, leave me your phone number I'll txt you when I am there" ?[/QUOTE]Pretty much.
I establish contact about 4-6 weeks prior to my trip with a couple dozen girls from DIA and FH. Then I trade a few messages with each until a couple weeks before my flight, and having now broken the ice a bit, I start gathering cell numbers of the ones who seem like good possibilities.
Once I hit Manila, I buy a cheapie Nokia and some load. Then I lay on my bed in the hotel and fire off a volley of texts to the, um, "winners" of the DIA/FH fishing expedition.
I usually meet the girls for lunch, a drink, etc. somewhere in the Greenbelt malls, often at Hard Rock or Cafe Havana. It's a bit of a crapshoot, but I'd estimate that the girls agree to accompany me back to the hotel on the first date about 50% of the time.
If nothing works out on a given day, I'll usually then just roll to EDSA or else call a girl I met on a previous trip that I *know* will be good to go.
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The wrong sort of stiffy
Had a sad text from one of my girls in Cebu this morning. She said she was in a funeral parlour. Apparently she went island hoping/diving with a 57 yr old Singaporean guy before being scheduled to go to Boracay for a week today. sadly the guy drowned - related to a heart problem.
So guys, if especially if you have some medical condition, don't overdo it.
Quite a traumatic experience for a 20 year old girl too, fortunately he was travelling with colleagues so she's not having to deal with the situation alone.
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[quote=gangles]mathius,
i agree that any guy with a few dollars can fly to the philippines and line up hundreds of women.
but these are *****s, bargirls, from brothels, street walkers. they can also be lined up via dating sites, and i agree that this can be wasteful. but also, meeting semi pros over the internet gives an opportunity to screen them first, rather than take pot luck, and also creates an atmosphere of anticipation in both parties, and generally turns up low mileage, sincere, gfe type women.
what you can not find easily on the streets is regular, educated filipinas, which you can find on dating sites.
it takes time and effort, but for the guys who are looking for the real filipina, the true girlfriend, the dating site enables him to speed up the meeting process. i have no doubt that the women that i have found by dating site, i could never have found in a short stay of a few days.
to each his own.
g[/quote]
it is clear i am not a fan of the dating sites. i used them and had no end to offers, but awoke one day to realize just how much of my personal time i was wasting, sitting in front of the computer in mindless chatter. but some are addicted to electronic games and in a similar vain if it is entertainment value then by all means.
but this is a monger's site, by definition we are for the most part womanizers and fishing analogies are most appropriate. even in response, referring to yourself you use the plural women, not finding the one woman. and if a person is coming to ph to be a monger, then the dating sites (in my opinion), limit options and consume a great deal of time (admittedly back home), that just is not required to get volume and quality.
i agree it might be complicated cruising the lawyer's offices to pick the right secretary or paralegal, but do know guys that cruise the hospitals picking up nurses. the mall/shop girls are easy pickings and even the bars have a fair amount of virgins if one likes a challenge. i know a guy who has picked up more than one bank teller and if you are game to go to some of the more popular filipino hangouts, even the good girls go out with their friends to videoke and dance bars (non-freelance type establishments).
i do get your point though, and for some they need the comfort of a couple of familiar relationships to justify their visit. won't deny it works to a degree, just not really the most effective method by my experience. i do not agree that the screening aspect works, so many of the "bar girls" are roping in guy after guy who thinks they are semi virgins. and in many cases the guys are paying far more for that relationship than if they just paid the bf and took the girl out for the evening.
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[QUOTE=Driveallnight]Once I hit Manila, I buy a cheapie Nokia and some load. Then I lay on my bed in the hotel and fire off a volley of texts to the, um, "winners" of the DIA/FH fishing expedition.[/QUOTE]In the crappy old Manila airport, theres a cell phone load machine just before you get the yellow taxis. I load that and I'm texting from the taxi seeking those same winners. Maybe we; ve both scored with some (or to continue the Cricket analogy we may have bowled some of them over. Something the Aussies can't do at the moment Lolololol. Hi RK!
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Horses for courses
[QUOTE=Matius]It is clear I am not a fan of the dating sites. I used them and had no end to offers, but awoke one day to realize just how much of my personal time I was wasting, sitting in front of the computer in mindless chatter. But some are addicted to electronic games and in a similar vain if it is entertainment value then by all means.
But this is a monger's site, by definition we are for the most part womanizers and fishing analogies are most appropriate. Even in response, referring to yourself you use the plural women, not finding the ONE WOMAN. And if a person is coming to PH to be a monger, then the dating sites (in my opinion), limit options and consume a great deal of time (admittedly back home), that just is not required to get volume and quality.
I agree it might be complicated cruising the Lawyer's offices to pick the right secretary or paralegal, but do know guys that cruise the hospitals picking up nurses. The mall/shop girls are easy pickings and even the bars have a fair amount of virgins if one likes a challenge. I know a guy who has picked up more than one bank teller and if you are game to go to some of the more popular Filipino hangouts, even the good girls go out with their friends to Videoke and dance bars (non-freelance type establishments).
I do get your point though, and for some they need the comfort of a couple of familiar relationships to justify their visit. Won't deny it works to a degree, just not really the most effective method by my experience. I do not agree that the screening aspect works, so many of the "bar girls" are roping in guy after guy who thinks they are semi virgins. And in many cases the guys are paying far more for that relationship than if they just paid the bf and took the girl out for the evening.[/QUOTE]
I guess I am at the opposite end of the spectrum to Matius. I really don't like bars. I agree that if quantity and choice of looks / ease of access is what you are after bars are the way to go. But to me it seems a bit akin to the difference between buying fish at a supermarket and going out with a rod and line and catching for yourself.
Yes the supermarket offers a huge range of fish all easy to get just hand over the money and take your choice, but the taste can be abit "farmed" . Going fishing is far less productive but thats not the point if you enjoy the experience of fishing itself.
I understand Matius does plenty of hunting in the malls etc. Personally I find this more challenging than the dating sites but maybe its because I'm not so confident and am relatively PC literate.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I guess I am at the opposite end of the spectrum to Matius. I really don't like bars. I agree that if quantity and choice of looks / ease of access is what you are after bars are the way to go. But to me it seems a bit akin to the difference between buying fish at a supermarket and going out with a rod and line and catching for yourself.
Yes the supermarket offers a huge range of fish all easy to get just hand over the money and take your choice, but the taste can be abit "farmed" . Going fishing is far less productive but thats not the point if you enjoy the experience of fishing itself.
I understand Matius does plenty of hunting in the malls etc. Personally I find this more challenging than the dating sites but maybe its because I'm not so confident and am relatively PC literate.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this, GL. In fact, I've shared that exact same fishing metaphor with many fellow mongers who feel as Matius does.
But please, everyone, don't get me wrong; I love hitting the go-go "fish market" and barfining a nice fillet of snapper just as much as anyone. But I generally find using my pole and lures to pursue DIAfish and mallfish more stimulating.
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How to ride the Jeepney
Heres a video on How to Ride the Jeepney - Knda funny :)
[url]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-tuIQHiAHExg/how_to_ride_the_jeepney_in_the_philippines/[/url]
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Hear, hear
[QUOTE=GregLondon]but the taste can be abit "farmed" . Going fishing is far less productive but thats not the point if you enjoy the experience of fishing itself. [/QUOTE]Love the metaphor, GL, and I agree.
When I lived in the PI, I had lots of time; and although I continued to use DIA, I also liked the chase. Believe me, if you spend any amount of time in PI (or at least Cebu and Davao, where my personal experience was), you will not want for girlfriends.
I moved from PI to Bangkok and only last week moved to Saigon. For my money, it's very difficult to beat Filipinas.
In fact, I shall re-enlist in the Church of Rome and begin attending Sunday Mass faithfully since I know that's where I can find the best Filipina overseas workers.
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Cricket
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I.................................. Maybe we've both scored with some (or to continue the Cricket analogy we may have bowled some of them over. Something the Aussies can't do at the moment Lolololol. Hi RK![/QUOTE]
I guess it must be time for me to suck it up and take some lip from the Poms, even FF who is not sure what race he belongs to LOL.
You poor bastards have had to cop it for long enough from us. Lets hope we don't have to take it for as long as the Poms have had to.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I guess it must be time for me to suck it up and take some lip from the Poms, even FF who is not sure what race he belongs to LOL.
You poor bastards have had to cop it for long enough from us. Lets hope we don't have to take it for as long as the Poms have had to.[/QUOTE]
While there is not thread for this ...yes RK you will have to suck it up from the Poms and in person when we meet :) but that will be tempered by the fact that you will be eating some peaches...unlike many Poms who had to endure years of pain. :D
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[QUOTE=Polyorchid]I moved from PI to Bangkok and only last week moved to Saigon. For my money, it's very difficult to beat Filipinas.
In fact, I shall re-enlist in the Church of Rome and begin attending Sunday Mass faithfully since I know that's where I can find the best Filipina overseas workers.[/QUOTE]
In the UAE I would always take the girl to church as while I never partake, there was always a few cuties coming out who i could try and 'charm'. As mass would take a long time it gave me plenty of time for my 'worship'. Excellent idea P and good luck in Vietnam
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YM and Facebook integration
The new Yahoo Messenger 11 version is now available for download in beta version.
The critical new feature for Phils mongers is integration with your facebook account.
As most of you will be aware Facebook has now almost completely displaced Friendster as the preferred photo storage oriented social network. Many of the girls also use it as a chat platform mainly with their friends.
Personally I find Facebook chat terrible to use. The new YM allows you to link with your Facebook account so that your facebook friends show up on your YM and can be chatted to through the YM system which is much more user friendly. Sadly some of the YM features are disabled (such as renaming contacts and video chat) on the other hand clicking on the profile takes you straight through to her facebook profile.
As previously discussed revealing your genuine Facebook account may not be smart, so I personally have trampled through Facebook's terms of agreement (hope this doesn't generate yet more condemnation from the legal beagles out there RK?) and set up a dedicated phils mongering account.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1099957]I have a question for you guys who chat with 10+ girls and manage to arrange a meeting with all of them. Where do you find the time to keep in touch with them all?
[/QUOTE]It is not as complicated as it sounds. Chatting does not mean deep philosophical discussians. With some "how are yous" or "I miss yous" you can have a lot of success.
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Thanks for the tech update Greg.
Integration with FB will be be really useful. I am off to play with YM 11.
Do you put your real photos on your fake facebook account by the way? I found the problem with fake facebook accounts is that it's extremely easy to figure out it's fake. There is just too much activity going on in a real facebook account to be able to fake it. The years of social games posts, photos, status updates. Hundreds of friends, all making 10 comments on each post you make. You just can't fake all of that.
[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1100984]The new Yahoo Messenger 11 version is now available for download in beta version.
The critical new feature for Phils mongers is integration with your facebook account.
As most of you will be aware Facebook has now almost completely displaced Friendster as the preferred photo storage oriented social network. Many of the girls also use it as a chat platform mainly with their friends.
Personally I find Facebook chat terrible to use. The new YM allows you to link with your Facebook account so that your facebook friends show up on your YM and can be chatted to through the YM system which is much more user friendly. Sadly some of the YM features are disabled (such as renaming contacts and video chat) on the other hand clicking on the profile takes you straight through to her facebook profile.
As previously discussed revealing your genuine Facebook account may not be smart, so I personally have trampled through Facebook's terms of agreement (hope this doesn't generate yet more condemnation from the legal beagles out there RK?) and set up a dedicated phils mongering account. [/QUOTE]
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Facebook
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1101086]Thanks for the tech update Greg.
Integration with FB will be be really useful. I am off to play with YM 11.
Do you put your real photos on your fake facebook account by the way? I found the problem with fake facebook accounts is that it's extremely easy to figure out it's fake. There is just too much activity going on in a real facebook account to be able to fake it. The years of social games posts, photos, status updates. Hundreds of friends, all making 10 comments on each post you make. You just can't fake all of that. [/QUOTE]I think there is Zero point in trying to "fake" a facebook lfe. II just mean open an account in a pseudo name, upload a few of your pics and bio detail and use that to all all your Phil gfs No girl has ever complained that maybe this isn't your real name or where are all your British friends etc. They just want to see a few pics that's all
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[QUOTE=GregLondon;1100984]....................... (hope this doesn't generate yet more condemnation from the legal beagles out there RK?) and set up a dedicated phils mongering account.[/QUOTE]I think you are misrepresenting me a bit too strongly here GL.
I am NOT a "legal beagle" by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, I have a fake FB account too!
I think there is a major difference between a "fake" FB account and a deliberate falsification of an airline ticket to mislead airline clerks (and possibly immigration too) but maybe it is just a question of degree.
Cheers.
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Lol
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1101149]I think you are misrepresenting me a bit too strongly here GL.
I am NOT a "legal beagle" by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, I have a fake FB account too!
I think there is a major difference between a "fake" FB account and a deliberate falsification of an airline ticket to mislead airline clerks (and possibly immigration too) but maybe it is just a question of degree.
Cheers. [/QUOTE]Sorry just yanking your chain a little there RK. I am surprised to see who different people's ideas of morality on this tyep of subject are even within a very specific intereste group such as this
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[QUOTE=GregLondon;1101114]I think there is Zero point in trying to "fake" a facebook lfe. II just mean open an account in a pseudo name, upload a few of your pics and bio detail and use that to all all your Phil gfs No girl has ever complained that maybe this isn't your real name or where are all your British friends etc. They just want to see a few pics that's all[/QUOTE]
If all you want is to share photos.. I think it would be better off to email them than present a fake facebook. I did have a fake facebook and actually it was reasonably well presented. With 20 photos. 100 friends, some status messages and social games. Yet it was still obvious its fake. One girl flat out called me on it. Within 5 minutes of adding me she said. This isn't your real facebook account, where is your real facebook?. There is no good comeback to it, all excuses are totally lame. Most girls will not make a comment but they still understand you are hiding your real facebook account from them.
The flip side of this is that some girls will also refuse to add you to their real facebook.. the reason is almost always that they are "In A Relationship with " [some filipino guy] or [some foreign cash cow] in the said account.. the excuses I heard for why they cant add me to their real facebook range from lame to hilarious.. the latest girl I tried to add said "my ex-bf hijacked my account and I dont have access to it anymore" :D
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Not really sure what the issue is here
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1101180]If all you want is to share photos. I think it would be better off to email them than present a fake facebook. I did have a fake facebook and actually it was reasonably well presented. With 20 photos. 100 friends, some status messages and social games. Yet it was still obvious its fake. One girl flat out called me on it. Within 5 minutes of adding me she said. This isn't your real facebook account, where is your real facebook. There is no good comeback to it, all excuses are totally lame. Most girls will not make a comment but they still understand you are hiding your real facebook account from them.
The flip side of this is that some girls will also refuse to add you to their real facebook. The reason is almost always that they are "In A Relationship with " [some Filipino guy] or [some foreign cash cow] in the said account. The excuses I heard for why they can't add me to their real facebook range from lame to hilarious. The latest girl I tried to add said "my ex-bf hijacked my account and I don't have access to it anymore". [/QUOTE]Only a couple have asked, if they do I just say no this is my Phil dating facebook as I don; t want my buddies back home to know how many cute girls I'm chatting with. Trying to "fake" a facebook with spurious posts etc seems to me a complete waste of time. Al I am looking to do is not give away my real name and reveal to my family and friends the array of girls I am meeting here. I'm not trying to fool any of the phil girls
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[QUOTE=GregLondon;1101185]Only a couple have asked, if they do I just say no this is my Phil dating facebook as I don; t want my buddies back home to know how many cute girls I'm chatting with. Trying to "fake" a facebook with spurious posts etc seems to me a complete waste of time. Al I am looking to do is not give away my real name and reveal to my family and friends the array of girls I am meeting here. I'm not trying to fool any of the phil girls[/QUOTE]So you are ok with adding a girl to a fake account where your only friends are 25 other slutty-looking filipinas? You don't think it harms your image in their eyes? I'd rather just email my photos to her email account.
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No problem!
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1101188]So you are ok with adding a girl to a fake account where your only friends are 25 other slutty-looking filipinas? You don't think it harms your image in their eyes? I'd rather just email my photos to her email account.[/QUOTE]I just took a look at my account about 60 hot babes and zero guys. None of them has ever questioned it and if they do so the answer is pretty simple I'm here looking for a hot girl, I'm not interested in guys or gays period so why on earth would I want to add them to my Facebook dating profile? LOL.
Next you will be telling me that you have been adding a bunch of fat American guys to your favourites list in Date in Asia just to give it some "balance" LOL.
Of course if I were trying to persuade girls here that I was just here wanting tom play golf and looking for Miss Right, then it may be more of an issue. But even then iI don't see its an issue.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1101192]Next you will be telling me that you have been adding a bunch of fat American guys to your favourites list in Date in Asia just to give it some "balance" LOL.
[/QUOTE]Haha ok. Well in my experience with fake accounts. No the girl will not comment on it being fake (only one did) but they will quietly earmark you as a trickster.
Since I don't have a wife I can actually add girls to my real facebook, and comparing the two methods. The response is much better for the real account. If thats not an option for those of you with a wife and kids in your real FB account. I still think a fake account does more harm than good
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I think that using your real Facebook is a hostage to fortune.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1101198]Haha ok. Well in my experience with fake accounts. No the girl will not comment on it being fake (only one did) but they will quietly earmark you as a trickster.
Since I don't have a wife I can actually add girls to my real facebook, and comparing the two methods. The response is much better for the real account. If thats not an option for those of you with a wife and kids in your real FB account. I still think a fake account does more harm than good[/QUOTE]I'm sure using your real FB does give the girl a warm feeling, but I don't think its a big deal especially if you looking for a short term relationship. Personally I would not give my FB account to any girl in the Phils certainly unless I knew and trusted her very well.
It's really how this could cause all sorts of problems assuming that you have family and friends also linked in. Girls and especially those who turn out to be ladyboys can sometimes be quite vindictive if they feel feel slighted, humiliated mistreated for whatever reason. I really don't a slighted Filipina starting to blackmail me about sending embarrassing emails to my family friends and business contacts.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon;1101202]It's really how this could cause all sorts of problems assuming that you have family and friends also linked in. Girls and especially those who turn out to be ladyboys can sometimes be quite vindictive if they feel feel slighted, humiliated mistreated for whatever reason. I really don't a slighted Filipina starting to blackmail me about sending embarrassing emails to my family friends and business contacts.[/QUOTE]My friends and family know I am in the Philippines. I don't have a wife. Business buddies couldn't care less who I am sleeping with. And well, if you accidentally let in a nasty critter. You can always delete them / block them from your list of FB friends.
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OK Good luck
[quote=fast buck artist;1101210]my friends and family know i am in the philippines. i don't have a wife. business buddies couldn't care less who i am sleeping with. and well, if you accidentally let in a nasty critter. you can always delete them / block them from your list of fb friends.[/quote]i am a bit nervous about using real name fb account as i've had some minor but irritating examples of spurned lb / girl hassling such as being sent 500 repeat texts which girls can do for free if they are on unlimited plans or being blackmailed by a lb that his friend who he had accompanied to meet me was **** (which fortunately i discovered before anything happened) and he was going to call the police blah blah blah. if you find yourself in that sort of position or for example someone is claiming that you got them pregnant and can you pay maintenance etc. if things like that happen you really don't want the extra hassle of knowing that he / she knows your real name, friends and other private information. that's my view in any case. in 99% of cases you won't have any problems but i'd rather not take a 15 risk.
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[quote=greglondon;1101221]i am a bit nervous about using real name fb account as i've had some minor but irritating examples of spurned lb / girl hassling such as being sent 500 repeat texts which girls can do for free if they are on unlimited plans or being blackmailed by a lb that his friend who he had accompanied to meet me was **** (which fortunately i discovered before anything happened)[/quote]yea you have a good point. the said lb could have snapped a photo of you with the **** minor, uploaded on facebook and tagged you so it would show up in all your facebook friends' news feed. embarassing indeed.
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Also blackmail
[quote=fast buck artist;1101247]yea you have a good point. the said lb could have snapped a photo of you with the **** minor, uploaded on facebook and tagged you so it would show up in all your facebook friends' news feed. embarrassing indeed.[/quote]yes there is plenty of scope for embarrassment. the other issue is blackmail. things can sometimes turn very nasty, very quickly in the phils and you don't necessarily have to have done anything wrong to find yourself in deep trouble. remember there are many police men who are working in cahoots with various shady characters with a view to shaking down foreigners and the police are deeply involved with the **** sex scene. what actually may or may not have happened is to some extent irrelevant because a serious accusation from someone even if she's lieing through her teeth will be treated by the police as an excuse to extract however large a bribe they think they can get away with. the more real details you give such people about your real name etc the more scope for trouble. i may sound paranoid, but it's not until you get involved in a nasty situation personally that you learn to be a bit more cautious at least until you know the girl quite well.
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Dating Site profiles
I can add something to the on-going discussion of what different phrases might mean in various profiles.
Of course, most of us start from the premise that most girls don't understand what they put in their profiles anyway but..........
I have been chatting to a cute Cebuana who has the phrase "no games please" in her profile. We have chatted about various things including which position she prefers for sex and how we are going to try them all out when I meet her next in Cebu. Our chat seems to contradict her expressed preference for "no games please".
I just asked her what she meant by that.
Her reply: I mean I don't want guys playing with me by saying they are going to meet me at a time and place and then they don't turn up. Further chat revealed that this had happened to her "a lot".
So. Just another term to explore with the filipina of your choice. If she says "no games" or "no players" then maybe you should ascertain what she means.
This girls is definitely going to play with me. She knows my profile and understands it.
It could partly explain why so many girls are no shows too. Maybe guys are not definitive enough about exactly where and what time and you never confirmed that you were there waiting for her. My chatmate says she doesn't even leave home any more until she is assured the guy IS going to meet her.
I think if you set up a meeting you really should go through with it - simple courtesy isn't it?
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No games
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1101450]I can add something to the on-going discussion of what different phrases might mean in various profiles.
Of course, most of us start from the premise that most girls don't understand what they put in their profiles anyway but.
I have been chatting to a cute Cebuana who has the phrase "no games please" in her profile. We have chatted about various things including which position she prefers for sex and how we are going to try them all out when I meet her next in Cebu. Our chat seems to contradict her expressed preference for "no games please".
I just asked her what she meant by that.
Her reply: I mean I don't want guys playing with me by saying they are going to meet me at a time and place and then they don't turn up. Further chat revealed that this had happened to her "a lot".
So. Just another term to explore with the filipina of your choice. If she says "no games" or "no players" then maybe you should ascertain what she means.
This girls is definitely going to play with me. She knows my profile and understands it.
It could partly explain why so many girls are no shows too. Maybe guys are not definitive enough about exactly where and what time and you never confirmed that you were there waiting for her. My chatmate says she doesn't even leave home any more until she is assured the guy IS going to meet her.
I think if you set up a meeting you really should go through with it. Simple courtesy isn't it? [/QUOTE]I agree with RK here, having spoken to a number of Filipinas on the subject what most of them mean is: Please don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me around by saying you are in the Phils when infact you are on your sofa in Milwawkee, don't lie to me by saying that you are single and looking for a wife when you are just on a sex jaunt, don't tell me that young will turn up and then not show up, don't take me as your live in GF for 3 of my best years then throw me out with nothing when I start to get a bit older. Ie Just be honest, upfront and straightforward with me. Then she can decide whether despite the fact that her No 1 priority is to find a husband she can "play" with you for fun or especially for the younger girls, more likely for some pesos.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1101450]I can add something to the on-going discussion of what different phrases might mean in various profiles.
Of course, most of us start from the premise that most girls don't understand what they put in their profiles anyway but.
I have been chatting to a cute Cebuana who has the phrase "no games please" in her profile. We have chatted about various things including which position she prefers for sex and how we are going to try them all out when I meet her next in Cebu. Our chat seems to contradict her expressed preference for "no games please".
I just asked her what she meant by that.
Her reply: I mean I don't want guys playing with me by saying they are going to meet me at a time and place and then they don't turn up. Further chat revealed that this had happened to her "a lot".
So. Just another term to explore with the filipina of your choice. If she says "no games" or "no players" then maybe you should ascertain what she means.
This girls is definitely going to play with me. She knows my profile and understands it.
It could partly explain why so many girls are no shows too. Maybe guys are not definitive enough about exactly where and what time and you never confirmed that you were there waiting for her. My chatmate says she doesn't even leave home any more until she is assured the guy IS going to meet her.
I think if you set up a meeting you really should go through with it. Simple courtesy isn't it? [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GregLondon;1101455]I agree with RK here, having spoken to a number of Filipinas on the subject what most of them mean is: Please don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me around by saying you are in the Phils when infact you are on your sofa in Milwawkee, don't lie to me by saying that you are single and looking for a wife when you are just on a sex jaunt, don't tell me that young will turn up and then not show up, don't take me as your live in GF for 3 of my best years then throw me out with nothing when I start to get a bit older. Ie Just be honest, upfront and straightforward with me. Then she can decide whether despite the fact that her No 1 priority is to find a husband she can "play" with you for fun or especially for the younger girls, more likely for some pesos.[/QUOTE]All that has been said here is true. Some Filipinas also just add their no players / no games as they know it might put a few potential guys off. Yesterday here in Taiwan, I saw a nice profile of a Filipina (not DIA) and it was very clearly written " I'm not here for games / no players etcetc. I sent her a nice message, we chatted online and 5 minutes later she called me. Her first question was " where's your wife" I described my situation that I am married, and she laughed and thanked me for my honesty and we are meeting up tomorrow. So don't take these messages at face value. They are there as a sort of filtering system.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1101644]All that has been said here is true. Some Filipinas also just add their no players / no games as they know it might put a few potential guys off. Yesterday here in Taiwan, I saw a nice profile of a Filipina (not DIA) and it was very clearly written " I'm not here for games / no players etcetc. I sent her a nice message, we chatted online and 5 minutes later she called me. Her first question was " where's your wife" I described my situation that I am married, and she laughed and thanked me for my honesty and we are meeting up tomorrow. So don't take these messages at face value. They are there as a sort of filtering system.[/QUOTE]The whole thing is quite weird as FF correctly says.
I decided to tick the "Married / Attached" box and said in my profile that I wanted "discreet meetings, preferably in afternoons", and the replies suddenly started to come thick and fast.
The reason given by some of them is as FF says: they all liked the fact that I was being "honest and upfront". So go figure that one out!
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1101661]The whole thing is quite weird as FF correctly says.
I decided to tick the "Married / Attached" box and said in my profile that I wanted "discreet meetings, preferably in afternoons", and the replies suddenly started to come thick and fast.
The reason given by some of them is as FF says: they all liked the fact that I was being "honest and upfront". So go figure that one out! [/QUOTE]Its so nice when you and I agree on something LOL. Whens the next game? You didn't expect to get an easy ride did you.
PS. A girl went to the police in Sydney recently and said she had been sexually attacked by a cricketer.
The policeman said how did she know it was a cricketer.
She said he had white shirt and pants on, and pads that covered his legs.
The policemen asked if she knew his nationality. She said he was Australian.
Policeman asked how she knew this.
She replied " because he wasnt in for long!"
Enjoy your weekend Sir!
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Thanks RK, interesting post.
Filipinos do seem to need at least one confirmation, even if you are in country and have talked on the phone, etc.
On the other hand, I had a few who peppered me with constant and meaningless posts to the point of insanity. At least one wore out my cell phone battery before we were to meet. And we never met. Another came one hour late and even though I had assured her twice that I was sitting in the food court. The only foreigner as far as I could see. She couldn't find me. So I left. Only to be peppered with more msg imploring me to come back.
"I'm on my way" seems to mean something like she decided to get in the shower. Your generous offer to take a taxi and you will pay is often ignored (understandable considering.)
Those who write more intelligently in their messages can usually be expected to be more punctual. Nevertheless, I recommend meeting in a place where you can easily kill time: your hotel lobby, mall, etc.
At meeting points try to be specific and ask questions even though they will be annoyingly vague.
"I'm here"
"Great, I'm sitting in Starbucks, wearing a red carnation. Where are you?"
"In the mall. I don't know where Starbucks"
"Okay, I'll go there, where are you?"
"I'm here, in the mall"
I AM NOT EXAGERRATING!
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1101450]I can add something
SNIP.
Our chat seems to contradict her expressed preference for "no games please".
I just asked her what she meant by that.
Her reply: I mean I don't want guys playing with me by saying they are going to meet me at a time and place and then they don't turn up. Further chat revealed that this had happened to her "a lot".
So. Just another term to explore with the filipina of your choice. If she says "no games" or "no players" then maybe you should ascertain what she means.
This girls is definitely going to play with me. She knows my profile and understands it.
It could partly explain why so many girls are no shows too. Maybe guys are not definitive enough about exactly where and what time and you never confirmed that you were there waiting for her. My chatmate says she doesn't even leave home any more until she is assured the guy IS going to meet her.
I think if you set up a meeting you really should go through with it. Simple courtesy isn't it? [/QUOTE]
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Hey X
Thanks for a great report with many years of insight. Many are a bunch of dingbats.
Slippery f / k/a PLC
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[QUOTE=X Man; 1102299]"I'm here"
"Great, I'm sitting in Starbucks, wearing a red carnation. Where are you?"
"In the mall. I don't know where Starbucks"
"Okay, I'll go there, where are you?"
"I'm here, in the mall"
I AM NOT EXAGERRATING! [/QUOTE]Quite right. I was meeting on of mine at Havana Cafe in Greenbelt for dinner at 8pm. We've been together before, twice. I was a few minutes early, eyeing the candy. Around 8:15, sucking down my SML, I txt:
Me: are you coming?
Girl: yes. Sorry its traffic.
8:40pm, I order an appetizer.
Me: I ordered some small food.
Girl: oh ok.
Me: where are you?
Girl: in the taxi. Sorry I'm late ok. Close now.
8:55pm.
Me: ok tell me what kind of drink you want?
Girl: san mig.
So I order her San Mig, and have killed the appetizer. Still hungry.
9:10pm.
Me: jeez girl where is your taxi? Its greenbelt yes?
Girl: sorry I'm late. Just getting out of the bath.
Me: WHAT?
Girl: leaving soon. Don't go.
9:20pm. Steaming mad at her. Pay the bill, walk away. Get a few "Hi Sir" from the ladies in the Starbucks area, and ask one of them if she wants to go find a live band with me."Yes!" She directs the taxi driver to Taguig (oddly, where the first pinay lives) and we hit a disco.
9:55pm. Txt from the first girl.
Girl: just the taxi drop me off now greenbelt. [no kidding. 2 hours late]
9:57pm.
Girl: I don't see you. Where you?
Me: I'm the only white guy here. Near the front door.
Girl: don't see you. Where you.
Me: look around. I don't see you also [because I'm sitting in a disco in a different city what another filipina and we are laughing at you. ]
Girl: are you here?
Me: oh, sorry. Just getting out of the bath!
Girl: did you leave?
Me: duh.
Girl: how dare you!
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[QUOTE=X Man; 1102299]On the other hand, I had a few who peppered me with constant and meaningless posts to the point of insanity. At least one wore out my cell phone battery before we were to meet.
[/quote]Unfortunately the phone companies are offering "all you can text for 30 pesos" type of deals that allows certain women with an obsessive compulsive mental disorder to unload very short and brief texts at a rate of 60 texts per hour on their victims.
[quote]"I'm here"
"Great, I'm sitting in Starbucks, wearing a red carnation. Where are you?"
"In the mall. I don't know where Starbucks"
"Okay, I'll go there, where are you?"
"I'm here, in the mall"
[/QUOTE]Sounds like you met a true genius there mate.
I try weed out these retards at the online chat phase so I don't have a frustrating evening trying to meet them in real life.
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So true
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1102516]Quite right. I was meeting on of mine at Havana Cafe in Greenbelt for dinner at 8pm. We've been together before, twice. I was a few minutes early, eyeing the candy. Around 8:15, sucking down my SML, I txt:
Me: are you coming?
Girl: yes. Sorry its traffic.
8:40pm, I order an appetizer.
Me: I ordered some small food.
Girl: oh ok.
Me: where are you?
Girl: in the taxi. Sorry I'm late ok. Close now.
8:55pm.
Me: ok tell me what kind of drink you want?
Girl: san mig.
So I order her San Mig, and have killed the appetizer. Still hungry.
9:10pm.
Me: jeez girl where is your taxi? Its greenbelt yes?
Girl: sorry I'm late. Just getting out of the bath.
Me: WHAT?
Girl: leaving soon. Don't go.
9:20pm. Steaming mad at her. Pay the bill, walk away. Get a few "Hi Sir" from the ladies in the Starbucks area, and ask one of them if she wants to go find a live band with me."Yes!" She directs the taxi driver to Taguig (oddly, where the first pinay lives) and we hit a disco.
9:55pm. Txt from the first girl.
Girl: just the taxi drop me off now greenbelt. [no kidding. 2 hours late]
9:57pm.
Girl: I don't see you. Where you?
Me: I'm the only white guy here. Near the front door.
Girl: don't see you. Where you.
Me: look around. I don't see you also [because I'm sitting in a disco in a different city what another filipina and we are laughing at you. ]
Girl: are you here?
Me: oh, sorry. Just getting out of the bath!
Girl: did you leave?
Me: duh.
Girl: how dare you! [/QUOTE]Sadly this does exemplify the attitude of many, probably a majority of Filipinas. In particular there is a very strong tendency to immediately say what she thinks you want o hear eg I'm in the taxi its close etc rather than the truth.
It's experiences like this that have lead me to the policy of arranging meetings at my hotel if at all possible, where I am less concerened if she is an hour late as I have things to do.
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Late to first meeting
You have to set a limit, and let her know beforehand. Sometimes a girl will not show at all, because she's tired or something comes up. And not even waste a text to tell you. More often, she will wait until you say you are there and waiting for her before she leaves home (it's a significant expense for her to come) , or even before she gets ready. Filipinos do not trust each other. They don't appreciate that foreigners are more reliable. I live in a small city, no traffic congestion, so I allow 15 minutes. In Metro Manila, maybe half an hour. But again, you need to let the girl know beforehand that after a specified time, you will be gone, and the date is canceled. You can ask a girl, How long would you say I should wait for a girl? I assure you, she will not say, Two hours. For a first-time meeting, I figure the girl should be eager and waiting for me. If she isn't, the relationship will probably not go well anyway. So I bail. I have ditched many girls, on their way and furious at me.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1102516]Quite right. I was meeting on of mine at Havana Cafe in Greenbelt for dinner at 8pm. We've been together before, twice. I was a few minutes early, eyeing the candy. Around 8:15, sucking down my SML, I txt:
Me: are you coming?
Girl: yes. Sorry its traffic.
8:40pm, I order an appetizer.
Me: I ordered some small food.
Girl: oh ok.
Me: where are you?
Girl: in the taxi. Sorry I'm late ok. Close now.
8:55pm.
Me: ok tell me what kind of drink you want?
Girl: san mig.
So I order her San Mig, and have killed the appetizer. Still hungry.
9:10pm.
Me: jeez girl where is your taxi? Its greenbelt yes?
Girl: sorry I'm late. Just getting out of the bath.
Me: WHAT?
Girl: leaving soon. Don't go.
9:20pm. Steaming mad at her. Pay the bill, walk away. Get a few "Hi Sir" from the ladies in the Starbucks area, and ask one of them if she wants to go find a live band with me."Yes!" She directs the taxi driver to Taguig (oddly, where the first pinay lives) and we hit a disco.
9:55pm. Txt from the first girl.
Girl: just the taxi drop me off now greenbelt. [no kidding. 2 hours late]
9:57pm.
Girl: I don't see you. Where you?
Me: I'm the only white guy here. Near the front door.
Girl: don't see you. Where you.
Me: look around. I don't see you also [because I'm sitting in a disco in a different city what another filipina and we are laughing at you. ]
Girl: are you here?
Me: oh, sorry. Just getting out of the bath!
Girl: did you leave?
Me: duh.
Girl: how dare you! [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cbea20;1102778]You have to set a limit, and let her know beforehand. Sometimes a girl will not show at all, because she's tired or something comes up. And not even waste a text to tell you. More often, she will wait until you say you are there and waiting for her before she leaves home (it's a significant expense for her to come) , or even before she gets ready. Filipinos do not trust each other. They don't appreciate that foreigners are more reliable. I live in a small city, no traffic congestion, so I allow 15 minutes. In Metro Manila, maybe half an hour. [/QUOTE]I am hearing a lot of justifications being made why they should be allowed to be routinely late."congested traffic","its a big investment for her to travel meet you" "lots of guys stand them up" "filipinos don't trust each other" "geography isn't taught in school so they have trouble finding places".
Frankly its a load of excuses. A girl is one hour late because she is an irresponsible stupid *****. There is no other reason. The women I met that have a brain and have a job have no trouble at all coming on time. The "one hour late" club is almost always irresponsible dumb wh0res who never held a steady job in their life (no surprise) and don't really care about other people or value their time.
To lighten up, I have a funny story to tell. I was sitting outside SM North mall having a coffee and cake alone on lunch break. And saw an agitated westerner pacing up and down and looking at his phone for about 30 minutes. The guy was clearly looking for someone, he gave up, jumped in a taxi and left. 15 minutes later a taxi pulls over and a visayan girl runs out, spots me, comes to kiss me on the cheek and starts chatting. Oh Hello, James, how was your trip from Shanghai, are you tired, you look so much better in person than on photos (nice one!.) , I stopped at the shop to get some vitamins, blah blah, no mention of apology for being 1hr+ late. I briefly entertained the idea of snatching this girl and play along as "James". But frankly. She was 60 kgs on a 5'0 frame, and I don't know how many vitamins she took from the health shop but clearly she squeezed a few donuts in between. So I sent her on her way nervously fidgeting with the phone and trying to get hold of the pissed off James.
James, if you are reading this, get a better taste in women! .
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Tempus Fugit
My conclusion regarding the "time" issue, after seven plus years here is that, for the most part, Filipinos place no value on time. It's at best an estimate of when an event, such as a meeting, will occur. This is often true even with the senior executives of major corporations, and isn't limited to the behavior of random women from chat sites. My response, in the case of business meetings, is to wait a maximum of 15 minutes, and then to leave without further explanation. When a senior vice president of a major company here asked me why I didn't wait for him, after I had twice confirmed the meeting, I explained that I don't wait for anyone and that my time has value. He eventually rescheduled the meeting, and showed up on time.
The whole time conundrum is a factor of mismatched, mutually exclusive cultural conditioning and there's simply no way to resolve it. The only way to survive then, without succumbing to continual anger, is to create a rule governing your own behavior and to stick to it.
The other insight, that works for me, is recognition of the fact that Filipinos tell you what they think you want to hear, which may bear no relationship to what they actually intend to do. This is not perceived by them as lying, but as a way of making the other party feel comfortable.
GE.
GE
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Time and the Filipina
This is the enigma that is the Filipina / o. Only the haziest notion of time discipline and spatially organizing their lives and yet they dash around like they are on the tightest schedule. Look at the roads with everyone carving everyone else up and going for gaps which don't exist and have you ever tried queuing here where you are constantly being frustrated by people jumping ahead of you with the old 'Excuse me, miss, blah, blah, blah' line.
Yet if you want to meet a girl at 2, you had better tell her to be there at 1, and perhaps she might turn up near the time that you want. But this being the Philippines, she will probably turn up on the dot at 1 and then will bombard you with texts wanting to know where you are. But it is more likely that she will turn up promptly at 3:D.
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[quote=cunning stunt; 1103507]this is the enigma that is the filipina / o. only the haziest notion of time discipline and spatially organizing their lives and yet they dash around like they are on the tightest schedule. look at the roads with everyone carving everyone else up and going for gaps which don't exist and have you ever tried queuing here where you are constantly being frustrated by people jumping ahead of you with the old 'excuse me, miss, blah, blah, blah' line.
yet if you want to meet a girl at 2, you had better tell her to be there at 1, and perhaps she might turn up near the time that you want. but this being the philippines, she will probably turn up on the dot at 1 and then will bombard you with texts wanting to know where you are. but it is more likely that she will turn up promptly at 3. [/quote]on a trip a few months back i very specifically told a girl we would meet at 11am. she agreed and i agreed. and exactly as you state here, she arrived at 9. 30 am and did the said bombardment. she even went a stage further and sent me a i'm crying now because you arent here to meet me ", which was funny because when she sent it it was only 10am, still one hour before the scheduled time.
filipinas are just rep001terbrained, but in fairness 50% of my ladies are at the right place at the right time. the others are early late or doing the quoted "where are you, i'm here " routine when one has no idea where " here" is.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1103497]My conclusion regarding the "time" issue, after seven plus years here is that, for the most part, Filipinos place no value on time. It's at best an estimate of when an event, such as a meeting, will occur. This is often true even with the senior executives of major corporations, and isn't limited to the behavior of random women from chat sites. My response, in the case of business meetings, is to wait a maximum of 15 minutes, and then to leave without further explanation. When a senior vice president of a major company here asked me why I didn't wait for him, after I had twice confirmed the meeting, I explained that I don't wait for anyone and that my time has value. He eventually rescheduled the meeting, and showed up on time.
The whole time conundrum is a factor of mismatched, mutually exclusive cultural conditioning and there's simply no way to resolve it. The only way to survive then, without succumbing to continual anger, is to create a rule governing your own behavior and to stick to it.
The other insight, that works for me, is recognition of the fact that Filipinos tell you what they think you want to hear, which may bear no relationship to what they actually intend to do. This is not perceived by them as lying, but as a way of making the other party feel comfortable.
GE. [/QUOTE]I agree with GE, and because we have both lived and worked here for so long then both of us have evolved ways to cope with this "cultural" aberration. I put "cultural" in inverted commas because it is not really cultural. It is a learned piece of poor discipline.
My coping mechanism is similar to GE but slightly different.
I make a point of confirming at least twice that we have the time mutually agreed.
If it is a girl, I tell her at the time of scheduling to meet that I will wait no more than 20 minutes maximum unless I have been forewarned by text.
If it is a one-on-one business meeting, I wait 20 minutes and in the absence of receiving any excuses, I then text that I can no longer wait as I have another appointment.
If I am running a meeting at which other participants are punctually waiting I will wait 10 minutes and then start, irrespective of the importance of the latecomer.
The outcome always is that these late people LEARN from the experience and almost always are very punctual on the next occasion which reinforces my earlier point that it is just ill-discipline.
I have a friend who owns a call-center and his employees are ALWAYS either early or on-time because they are penalised if they are late.
I appreciate that some of you who don't have any profession or business here or for whom time is irrelevant will think we are being a bit "anal-retentive" about this factor but I assure you it is so reflective of other factors. If a person cannot be reliable enough to be punctual then they usually cannot be reliable in many other aspects either.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1103497]My conclusion regarding the "time" issue, after seven plus years here is that, for the most part, Filipinos place no value on time. It's at best an estimate of when an event, such as a meeting, will occur. This is often true even with the senior executives of major corporations, and isn't limited to the behavior of random women from chat sites. My response, in the case of business meetings, is to wait a maximum of 15 minutes, and then to leave without further explanation. When a senior vice president of a major company here asked me why I didn't wait for him, after I had twice confirmed the meeting, I explained that I don't wait for anyone and that my time has value. He eventually rescheduled the meeting, and showed up on time.
The whole time conundrum is a factor of mismatched, mutually exclusive cultural conditioning and there's simply no way to resolve it. The only way to survive then, without succumbing to continual anger, is to create a rule governing your own behavior and to stick to it.
The other insight, that works for me, is recognition of the fact that Filipinos tell you what they think you want to hear, which may bear no relationship to what they actually intend to do. This is not perceived by them as lying, but as a way of making the other party feel comfortable.
GE. [/QUOTE]I agree with GE, and because we have both lived and worked here for so long then both of us have evolved ways to cope with this "cultural" aberration. I put "cultural" in inverted commas because it is not really cultural. It is a learned piece of poor discipline.
My coping mechanism is similar to GE but slightly different.
I make a point of confirming at least twice that we have the time mutually agreed.
If it is a girl, I tell her at the time of scheduling to meet that I will wait no more than 20 minutes maximum unless I have been forewarned by text.
If it is a one-on-one business meeting, I wait 20 minutes and in the absence of receiving any excuses, I then text that I can no longer wait as I have another appointment.
If I am running a meeting at which other participants are punctually waiting I will wait 10 minutes and then start, irrespective of the importance of the latecomer.
The outcome always is that these late people LEARN from the experience and almost always are very punctual on the next occasion which reinforces my earlier point that it is just ill-discipline.
I have a friend who owns a call-center and his employees are ALWAYS either early or on-time because they are penalised if they are late.
I appreciate that some of you who don't have any profession or business here or for whom time is irrelevant will think we are being a bit "anal-retentive" about this factor but I assure you it is so reflective of other factors. If a person cannot be reliable enough to be punctual then they usually cannot be reliable in many other aspects either.
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[quote=cunning stunt;1103507]look at the roads with everyone carving everyone else up and going for gaps which don't exist and have you ever tried queuing here where you are constantly being frustrated by people jumping ahead of you with the old 'excuse me, miss, blah, blah, blah' line.[/quote]overpopulation + mass unemployment = no respect for their own time, and time of other people.
i find it extremely annoying just to watch them walking around at slug speed during the workday leasurely slapping their slippers on the road, stopping to beg a trike driver for a cigarette or trying to bust a cheesy move on some girl walking by. showing they have absolutely nothing to do all day. and thinking everyone else around them is just as useless.
if you fly over to hong kong which is just a few hours away, what a contrast. people walking quick to their destination, carrying papers, notebooks, goods. looking professional and acting like it.
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Sorry, yet another woeful 'damn filipinas are always late' story!
A fairly quiet Saturday afternoon lazing about the Makati condo. Not much lined up for the evening, so I log on to DIA and start trolling. Doesn't take long to find a few likely candidates, so I pop off some quick, 'cut to the chase' messages-'Hi, you seem nice and sweet. Would you like to meet up this eve for a drink and / or dinner? ' Within minutes I start getting replies, and after a bit of back and forth with a few, I settle on one who looks good (in her no doubt doctored pic) , sounds relatively sane and lives in NCR. We agree to meet at Greenbelt Cafι Havana at 7:30pm.
Having done the DIA dance often, I have no delusions of Filipina punctualitythough I do remember the shock horror of being severely scolded by one DIA gal who I had kept waiting five minutes at Avenue a couple of months before (read my post about that one). Nonetheless, that must have been an aberration, I tell myself, so I decide to show up at GB3 around 7:45.
I text her at 7:30 and tell here I'm at GB. She texts me back, 'I get taxi now. ' No surprise there. A minute later she texts again: 'expensive to go there, can you pay my way? ' Also no surprise. I tell her, 'OK'.
I get to Cafι Havana at 7:45, stake out a table, order a beer and enjoy the scenery for a while. I look at my watch, order another beer and I text her again:
Me: where are you?
Her: on my way.
Me: how near greenbelt are you?
Her: in taxi now.
Me: how long to get here?
Her: sorry traffic.
A bit more of that, and then silence. I hunker down with the third beer.
8:40, time for texting round two. Carbon copy of round one. I start thinking about cutting bait or dropping my pole in another pond. I text her that I'm not going to wait much longer. 10 minutes later she gets back to me: 'still in taxi, traffic sorry'
Hmmm, dilemma: she does look good in her DIA pic and I do want to see what she looks like in the flesh. So I tell her, lamely, 'Ok, but please hurry'
No reply. Now it's 8:55 and I'm starting to stew (in spite of the scenery and three beers). I decide to leave, so pay the bill and wait for change. She texts: 'near now, sorry where are you? ' I reply: 'at cafι Havana outside. You here now? ' Her: '5 mins please wait sorry. '
Curiosity has me by the balls, so I wait. At 9:20 she texts again: 'I'm here where are you? '
Eventually, we see each other and she comes over to the table. She looks pretty good. Perhaps a wee bit fuller than her pic might have implied, but she's doable. I'm still stewing, but testosterone begins to take hold.
We order drinks and do the usual first date kind of Q & A thing. She's not too forthcoming, not particularly vivacious and I begin to tire of her company. By 11:30 I've had enough chit-chat. I need to either get her back to my place or send her home. I ask her what she wants to do now (test question) , and I get the uninspiring, 'up to you' answer. Hmmm, as much as I would like to do her, I don't relish waking up in the morning with her in my place. So, I lead her out to Makati Ave, flag down a taxi, stuff a few hundred pesos in her hand, tell her that I have to get up early for work, put her in the taxi with a kiss and 'keep in touch. ' I go back to Cafι Havana and order another beer.
Fast forward 5 weeks later. Once again at home in the afternoon with no major plans for the evening, when out of the blue (we haven't communicated at all since the first date) , I get a text from her: 'Hi remember me? I'm at home now, I'm bored can I come to your place. '
Hmmm, moment of weakness, Thinking with the wrong head, so I say 'ok, when do you want to come? ' She says 'I come at 6. Can you pay my way again? ' A little wiser now (but only a little) , I text back: 'ok I pay your way, but only if your not late. ' She says 'Ok I'm not late this time, promise. ' So I tell her to go to the Starbucks in the mall next to my place and text when she's there.
I go have a work out in the gym then head off to the mall to buy beer and snacks. Back at my place around 5:30, have a shower and get dressed. At 6 I text her: 'where are you? '. She texts back: 'I get taxi now. ' Why am I not surprised. Well, I figure, at least I'll save a few hundred pesos on taxi fare! I decide I won't text her again and will leave my place at 7 if she's not there yet.
Sure enough. 7 rolls around and no sign of her, so I grab wallet and keys, and, more amused than angry, head out the door to see a few gal friends at Rogues. At 7:20 I get a text from her: 'I'm in taxi now sorry late but traffic na. ' I don't reply. 15 minutes later I'm walking across the street to Flamingo when I get another text from her: 'I'm near na sorry for late again. ' I don't reply. Then another text: 'I'm here at your place where are you? '
This time I reply. I tell her I got tired of waiting and I'm now out with friends. I tell her our date is off because she's too late. She replies immediately: 'what I do now, I don't have money to get home. ' I text her back: 'this is 2nd time you keep me waiting. Now its your problem. Bye. ' I do feel slightly guilty leaving her stranded, but I did indeed warn her about being late again, and I figure she must have enough pesos for a jeepney home. And if she doesn't have enough to get home, she can at least get to Greenbelt from my place and hook up with a bloke there. Fortunately, I get no more texts from her.
Manta Ray
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[quote=fast buck artist; 1103524]overpopulation + mass unemployment = no respect for their own time, and time of other people.
i find it extremely annoying just to watch them walking around at slug speed during the workday leasurely slapping their slippers on the road, stopping to beg a trike driver for a cigarette or trying to bust a cheesy move on some girl walking by. showing they have absolutely nothing to do all day. and thinking everyone else around them is just as useless.
if you fly over to hong kong which is just a few hours away, what a contrast. people walking quick to their destination, carrying papers, notebooks, goods. looking professional and acting like it. [/quote]you said ti well. the other thing thats gets me laughing, is when you say to a girl," i haven't heard from you in a while" and she replies " yes i've been busy". i'm thinking, busy doing what? you have no job, no income and have nothing to do.
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And another irritant
Ok so I'm sitting here with a major hangover (Taiwan beer is reallllllly quite good) and have just had a morning perusal through some young ladies who looked quite suitable and beddable.
The irritant is when they write " don't contact me unless you have read my profile" and upon reading the said profile it merely says something inane, banal and lacking in substance such as " I like playing badminton ".
OK honey, I read it, now can we go to bed LOL.
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[QUOTE=Manta Ray;1103563]Sorry, yet another woeful 'damn filipinas are always late' story! [/QUOTE]I guess I'll have to post a rebuttal. I had my first real DIA date last week. At the end of my trip I was in Manila and decided to fire off but bunch of shotgun texts to the DIA contacts that had given me their digits in the two weeks prior to my trip. Got some maybe's, some "send me a cell phone load first" replies (crossed off the list) , and one that seemed promising. Unfortunately even though her profile showed her in Manila, she said she was visiting her family and was currently a multi-hour bus ride away. I was expecting her to hit me up for cash, but nope, she said she just wanted to meet me and would catch the morning bus and be at my hotel at noon sharp the next day.
Well, noon the next day rolls around, and I was fully expecting her not to show (in which case I would have left in search of other company) , but there she was, in the lobby, looking stunning (tight little spinner with a bounce in her step). I asked if she wanted to go upstairs to "rest" after her long ride, and she says yes with a sly smile. We started kissing in the elevator. 5 minutes later she was in the shower. 10 minutes later she was in the sack, riding me like an inverted jack hammer. Ended up inside her no less than 5 times over the next 16 hours. Learned quickly that she is multi-orgasmic and nearly insatiable...not much sleep that night :-). She never once asked for money, I had to almost force her to take money for the bus and cab (I snuck a little extra holiday money in her purse too...she deserved it).
When I had to leave the next morning, she was ready on time too, and even asked if I had enough money for MY cab ride to the airport :-) Wonders will never cease. Oh yes, I will be looking her up next time I am in PI...this time on my first day instead of my last.
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An the the final irritant of the day
Maybe not having been to the Phils in past two months is getting to me. Here in Taiwan I'm chatting with several Pinays but the same nonsense is occurring as in Manila.
Thank goodness the Indonesians are proving to be way better than their Pinay sisters so far.
Anyways I sent a meaningless text to one Pinay who I've been chatting with before, tonight which said something like " Hello, how are you, are you having an enjoyable Saturday ".
The highly intelligent, well educated, well schooled and clear leader in the IQ stakes clearly thought as to what would be the best response and thus composed her award winning response of " Huh?"
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Great Report
[QUOTE=Irony Monger; 1103701]I guess I'll have to post a rebuttal. I had my first real DIA date last week. At the end of my trip I was in Manila and decided to fire off but bunch of shotgun texts to the DIA contacts that had given me their digits in the two weeks prior to my trip. Got some maybe's, some "send me a cell phone load first" replies (crossed off the list) , and one that seemed promising. Unfortunately even though her profile showed her in Manila, she said she was visiting her family and was currently a multi-hour bus ride away. I was expecting her to hit me up for cash, but nope, she said she just wanted to meet me and would catch the morning bus and be at my hotel at noon sharp the next day.
Well, noon the next day rolls around, and I was fully expecting her not to show (in which case I would have left in search of other company) , but there she was, in the lobby, looking stunning (tight little spinner with a bounce in her step). I asked if she wanted to go upstairs to "rest" after her long ride, and she says yes with a sly smile. We started kissing in the elevator. 5 minutes later she was in the shower. 10 minutes later she was in the sack, riding me like an inverted jack hammer. Ended up inside her no less than 5 times over the next 16 hours. Learned quickly that she is multi-orgasmic and nearly insatiable. Not much sleep that night. She never once asked for money, I had to almost force her to take money for the bus and cab (I snuck a little extra holiday money in her purse too. She deserved it).
When I had to leave the next morning, she was ready on time too, and even asked if I had enough money for MY cab ride to the airport. Wonders will never cease. Oh yes, I will be looking her up next time I am in PI. This time on my first day instead of my last. [/QUOTE]On occasion, I get this kind of thing. Some girls, I think, just want to get their hands on a white guy (or foreigner). Its just for the thrill of it. In fact, two girls I met in the last year in Manila from dating sites told me that, and in advance. Like yours, neither wanted money, and I had a hard time slipping 1000 pisos in their purse. Yet, over the next several days, they each deluged me with sex, and both offered and brought an extra 'friend' or niece with them one another visit so I could have two scoops of ice cream at the same time. Either in chat before I came, or once with me, they would say things like:
"I hate pinoy they teribal. Just I want white guy for the f*cking."
"Is my dream to sex with white guy. Never I have that."
"You have friend here he travel with you? White guy? I want try two men sex same time."
When I pointed out to this last girl that having a second guy in bed meant she would get sandwiched front / back, she was fine with that: "Yes its fine to me. I do any you want. And I bring other girl if you want she can take the pitures. Or you can also f*ck her." Then, thats exactly what she did. I didn't have a buddy in Manila at the time to double-up on her, but she brought her niece anyway, who took pics of her aunt f*cking me, then the aunt took some pics of me f*cking the niece, and they spent the night. I had a hard time slipping them money the next morning; they seemed happy with the hotel breakfast.
I find most filipinas are fairly un-cooth. But sometimes they are in STUNNINGLY good form!
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What exactly is FH? How do I join it?
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 830793][b]Puerto La Cruz, [/b]
I had a very simillar thing happen to me on FH a few months back.
In my profile I state that I am looking for a GF only when I visit the PI and one day this cute young girl I will call "R" Pm's me on FH looking to chat. I accept her invite and we start to chat. I ask her if she has read my profile and she says no. (Why is it that it seems all the girls do not even bother to read the profiles, sad really but I digress).
She goes off and reads my profile while I wait. R comes back and we continue chatting and I ask her if she was ok with what she read on my profile and if she understood that I was only looking for a GF. R says she is ok and we continue to chat for the next 15 minutes or so then I tell her I have to go. We say goodbye and that was that, or so I thought.
R sends me 4 or 5 emails on FH within the preceding 24 hours each one more excited than the previous one. They all contain things like,"I told my parents about you, they are so happy","My parents can't wait to meet you","My mom wants you to come stay at our house when you visit".
It took me a few minutes to put together that she thought I had asked her to become my GF. Which I did not, but I can see how things might have been confusing to her.
I sent her an email in which I clearly stated that we were not BF-GF and that she seemed nice but for her not to get the wrong idea.
A few days later I saw that she was on FH once again and Pm'ed her to explain the mess, but I was shocked by the response. It seems R gave her Mom the I'd and password to her FH profile so that her Mom could respond to emails while R was at school. WOW, this I did not expect. So I chatted with her mom and she seemed nice and unphased by the fact her 19yr old daughter was chatting with men twice her age. I thanked her for the offer for me to stay at her house and then she informed me she would tell R that I had something to talk with her about.
I chatted with R that same day and everything got straightened out, but it kind of freaked me out somewhat.
A few days later we chatted again and R accepted the offer to join my YM and R happened to be in a cafe so she turned on the cam and the first thing I see is R, and her Mom standing beside her. Her mom seemed to be telling R what to say and what to do and I just could not help but feel strange.
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Common for Mom to be sitting next to her daughter or daughters in the cyber cafe. I have experienced this many times. The first time was kind of strange. They seem to get off on it, or are prompting the daughters or checking out the guys to see if they approve or who would be the best catch.
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FH = FC = Filipino Cupid
[QUOTE=Salsadude; 1107381]What exactly is FH? How do I join it?
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 830793][b]Puerto La Cruz, [/b]
I had a very simillar thing happen to me on FH a few months back.
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For more information. [/QUOTE]FH is Filipino heart a dating site aimed at Filipinas which has recently been rebranded Filipinacupid.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/[/url]
You can create a profile fro free but to actually do anything will need to pay a subscription.
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Fh
[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1107405]
[QUOTE=Salsadude; 1107381]What exactly is FH? How do I join it?
FH is Filipino heart a dating site aimed at Filipinas which has recently been rebranded Filipinacupid.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/[/url]
You can create a profile fro free but to actually do anything will need to pay a subscription. [/QUOTE]I am a menber of FH, but the girls seem interested in the marriage, but for me pretend.
Then they have others profiles on Tagged and Dia, for less serious things!
My opinion in FH, They try the long relation. But are the same girls on Dia and Tagged.
You can search for city, but often used to write where they were born, but and the end live in Manila area!
If they really live In San Jose for example, They are not open mind!
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GF or short term relation etc?
Hi guys,
The proper word to use in this kind of situations is "companion".
Over the years, I've learned a few things about our favourite pinays.
A) they are group" people, they can't imagine someone would want to travel alone.
B) girls are raised to "serve" men.
See) men are considered incapable of taking care of themselves.
The) pinays are proud to be sexy (using "western" wording, this means they are happy in their own bodies)
So.
A) when you say you travel alone and you're looking for a companion, they'll think that perfectly normal.
Be) even though I'm not (very) macho, it can be a pleasureable experience when some sweet and sexy girl fills your plate while in the restaurant or massages your back in your hotel room.
See) so they need a companion even more.
The) tell them straight away that they look sexy, that they have nice bodies and they'll be happy to use it in the context of be) (wild fun is to be had)
Enjoy life!
[QUOTE=Salsadude; 1107381]What exactly is FH? How do I join it?
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 830793][b]Puerto La Cruz, [/b]
I had a very simillar thing happen to me on FH a few months back.
In my profile I state that I am looking for a GF only when I visit the PI and one day this cute young girl I will call "R" Pm's me on FH looking to chat. I accept her invite and we start to chat. I ask her if she has read my profile and she says no. (Why is it that it seems all the girls do not even bother to read the profiles, sad really but I digress).
She goes off and reads my profile while I wait. R comes back and we continue chatting and I ask her if she was ok with what she read on my profile and if she understood that I was only looking for a GF. R says she is ok and we continue to chat for the next 15 minutes or so then I tell her I have to go. We say goodbye and that was that, or so I thought.
R sends me 4 or 5 emails on FH within the preceding 24 hours each one more excited than the previous one. They all contain things like,"I told my parents about you, they are so happy","My parents can't wait to meet you","My mom wants you to come stay at our house when you visit".
It took me a few minutes to put together that she thought I had asked her to become my GF. Which I did not, but I can see how things might have been confusing to her.
I sent her an email in which I clearly stated that we were not BF-GF and that she seemed nice but for her not to get the wrong idea.
A few days later I saw that she was on FH once again and Pm'ed her to explain the mess, but I was shocked by the response. It seems R gave her Mom the I'd and password to her FH profile so that her Mom could respond to emails while R was at school. WOW, this I did not expect. So I chatted with her mom and she seemed nice and unphased by the fact her 19yr old daughter was chatting with men twice her age. I thanked her for the offer for me to stay at her house and then she informed me she would tell R that I had something to talk with her about.
I chatted with R that same day and everything got straightened out, but it kind of freaked me out somewhat.
A few days later we chatted again and R accepted the offer to join my YM and R happened to be in a cafe so she turned on the cam and the first thing I see is R, and her Mom standing beside her. Her mom seemed to be telling R what to say and what to do and I just could not help but feel strange.
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For more information. [/QUOTE]
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Companion
[QUOTE=Fredje1961; 1107590]Hi guys,
The proper word to use in this kind of situations is "companion".
Over the years, I've learned a few things about our favourite pinays.
A) they are group" people, they can't imagine someone would want to travel alone.
B) girls are raised to "serve" men.
See) men are considered incapable of taking care of themselves.
The) pinays are proud to be sexy (using "western" wording, this means they are happy in their own bodies)
So.
A) when you say you travel alone and you're looking for a companion, they'll think that perfectly normal.
Be) even though I'm not (very) macho, it can be a pleasureable experience when some sweet and sexy girl fills your plate while in the restaurant or massages your back in your hotel room.
See) so they need a companion even more.
The) tell them straight away that they look sexy, that they have nice bodies and they'll be happy to use it in the context of be) (wild fun is to be had)
Enjoy life!
[QUOTE=Salsadude; 1107381]What exactly is FH? How do I join it?[/QUOTE]F is absolutely right. Companion is the right term. If you are travelling alone people will ask incredulously where is your companion and consider you some sort of leper if you say you haven't got one. There is a real disconnect because as a foreighner you are perceived as being necessarily a wealthy and desirable person to be with so that an absence of a companion must be an indication of some dangerous psychosis. You could say "sexy compnion" but sexy esp in the province tends to mean the type of girl with big boobs who wears a bikini at the beach. Many very attractive girls would fervently deny they are sexy. You could say intimate companion, but intimate is probably beyond the diction of most high school educated girls,
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They ask the oddest things
We have all beeen asked for cash at tume in chatting with a cutie. Is rare that someone has not been hot up for a small donation to some charitable cause.
However, recent chats with 2 girls even surprised me.
The first offered me her viriginity for 100, 000 pesos (I kid you not). My advice was that can get many more cuties and some virgins or go try the koreans / japanese guys LOL.
The second I have met, known on and off, very much h0t and cold, very cute and has lots chat mates etc. We ended it all as she was too cute for herself and I could not be bothered with all the crap.
Then suddenly she pops up and says lets meet, am sorry for all the crap, and you anything you want to me (music to my ears I thought). If I buy her an IPhone4 3G at SM Mall for 32, 000 pesos (I checked yesterday and she is correct). But for this small fee I can't take nude pics, sex pics, enjoy Greek or CIM. So not much of a bargain there.
Now am slightly suspicious of this as she told me she recently she had split with a pinoy boyfriend who had a huge dick. And other bits of chat don't line up so could be the ex boyfrrend, so will play this along a bit and see where it goes
Must be Christmas LOL
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1107712]If I buy her an IPhone4 3G [/QUOTE]How about for an Ipod Nano and you just put the head in her ass?
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Daft requests
I had one cute, little 19 year old honey offer me her ass cherry if I would get her a Nokia N70! Why this particular phone I have no idea as it is a pretty old and clunky model, long discontinued. But who was I to argue.
So, whilst in UK, I picked one up off ebay for 30 nicker, smartened it up with a new case and battery and brought it out with me. She was so happy to get it but denied promising her ass and reneged on the deal. Sufferin' Succotash. She did, however, give me lots of loving in return;).
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1107712]We have all beeen asked for cash at tume in chatting with a cutie. Is rare that someone has not been hot up for a small donation to some charitable cause.
However, recent chats with 2 girls even surprised me.
The first offered me her viriginity for 100, 000 pesos (I kid you not). My advice was that can get many more cuties and some virgins or go try the koreans / japanese guys LOL.
The second I have met, known on and off, very much h0t and cold, very cute and has lots chat mates etc. We ended it all as she was too cute for herself and I could not be bothered with all the crap.
Then suddenly she pops up and says lets meet, am sorry for all the crap, and you anything you want to me (music to my ears I thought). If I buy her an IPhone4 3G at SM Mall for 32, 000 pesos (I checked yesterday and she is correct). But for this small fee I can't take nude pics, sex pics, enjoy Greek or CIM. So not much of a bargain there.
Must be Christmas LOL[/QUOTE]I've had one who firstly wanted my Itouch then wanted me to get her an Itouch.
I said sure I will get you one but asked her "how will you put any music / pics / apps on it."? She said its easy, you just load.
I showed her how it works. Namely that in order to create to account on Itunes etc you have to load a credit card. I asked the sweet girl whether she had a credit card. She sweetly said no, but her uncles cousin used to have one.
I told her when she had a functioning credit card we could talk more. Knowing we would NEVER talk more.
I said
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Hidden assistants
I wanted to reply to the message below, but felt it was better to put it here.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1105618]It is usually fairly easy to sort out the girls who have had profiles written by someone else.
More annoying for me is the woman who has her own personal "english speaker" and interpreter tagging along with her.
I was chatting with a girl on DIA and then YM for a few times with a cam and decided to meet her for coffee after I found her interesting.
She arrives, looking even better than on cam, but with her "chaperone" too, a small, dumpy, uninteresting friend. The friend was her interpreter. The woman could barely speak english nor could she understand me so the whole conversation was conducted through the 3rd party. The friend had also been typing all the chat messages (out of cam range) when we had been chatting too.
The whole thing was a waste of time so I sent them off with jeepney money. She buzzed me again next night on chat and after saying Hello, I asked if she was alone. The answer."No. My friend is typing my answers".
So just to follow on from GL and X Man's points: ask a few additional questions if you suspect that a 3rd party is involved just so that you have a better picture of who it is you are planning to meet. [/QUOTE]I'm a bit late on this reply, but I wanted to add my similar experience to what RK posted.
On a trip some time back, I made arrangements to meet a DIA girl in General Santos City. It was my understanding that she would meet me at the airport there. However, she was a no show. I managed to get to a phone and called her to ask where she was. Her shocked response was "You really came here?" Then she directed me to a specific hotel where, once again, she was a no show.
After waiting around for most of the day, I went online in search of other DIA contacts in the area. I found one that looked great in her profile photo, and was online. Right away, we started video chatting on YM. The same great looking girl was seen on cam responding to all of my messages. We agreed on a time to meet at the bar in front of the hotel. I went in early to make sure I would see her when she walked in. It was mid-afternoon, so there were not many customers in the bar. I sat down at the bar, facing the door, and ordered a beer. As I waited, I noticed a short, plump, unattractive girl sitting with 2 ladyboys. They all kept staring at me, pointing, and commenting to each other. Finally, the girl walked over to me and stated she was the one I had just been chatting with, and was here to meet me. I objected at first, saying she must be confused. But she gave me my screen name and the one for the girl I was chatting with. I was cornered now, and did not want to be rude. So I sat down and talked with her and the ladyboys, who turned out to be her cousins (so she said). The ladyboys had to translate many things for her, and relayed that the girl I had seen on cam was another translator that she used. Finally the question came from the girl about going to my room. However, she also wanted her "cousins" to come to the room also. I said no to the cousins, but I took her because I was upset over 2 failed attempts already. It wasn't pretty, but it turned out to be a decent shag.
After she left, I went online again, and opened YM. As soon as I signed in, the original girl started buzzing me. I thought maybe she was going to finally come to meet me. But the first line of text from her was "Did you have sex with the girl you took from the bar?" Needless to say, we didn't chat long, and I never saw her. She claimed that she was just arriving at my hotel, with her mother, when they saw me walk into the bar. Supposedly she stood in the shadows and eavesdropped on the entire conversation I had with the girl and her "cousins." When she saw me take the girl into the hotel, she left crying. Personally, I think the whole thing was some sort of setup.
I left GenSan the next day en route to Manila. I met another monger at the airport who invited me to meet up with him on Burgos. I had a great time there. My first night, I managed to have 2 girls from the local bars meet me in my hotel room. The next day, another bar girl came to my room, and spent the next 2 days with me shagging all the time.
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I've had many DIA girls ask me what I planned to give them for their birthday, Christmas, or any other occasion they could think of. Some have even come across with the sad stories about needing money for school, baby, sick relative, and so on. Most recently, I was asked to send a laptop to one, so she could keep in touch with me more easily (and all the other suckers I'm sure).
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Online gift-giving
My usual response, mostly to Facebook friends, is "Virtual (or, electronic) friends get virtual gifts." And send a. Gif rose.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1107998]I've had many DIA girls ask me what I planned to give them for their birthday, Christmas, or any other occasion they could think of. Some have even come across with the sad stories about needing money for school, baby, sick relative, and so on. Most recently, I was asked to send a laptop to one, so she could keep in touch with me more easily (and all the other suckers I'm sure).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1107998]I've had many DIA girls ask me what I planned to give them for their birthday, Christmas, or any other occasion they could think of. Some have even come across with the sad stories about needing money for school, baby, sick relative, and so on. Most recently, I was asked to send a laptop to one, so she could keep in touch with me more easily (and all the other suckers I'm sure).[/QUOTE]Well when asked those sort of 'pasalubong' questions I always tell them it is in my trousers and I hope she likes pork.
Laptop is a classic question and they will also say so I can show you all the time (yes true and countless others :)
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1107998]I've had many DIA girls ask me what I planned to give them for their birthday, Christmas, or any other occasion they could think of. Some have even come across with the sad stories about needing money for school, baby, sick relative, and so on. Most recently, I was asked to send a laptop to one, so she could keep in touch with me more easily (and all the other suckers I'm sure).[/QUOTE]The alternate response is to have fun and ask them back what they will get you as your birthday is coming. They will immediately blush (electronically) and say they can't get you anything.
You then reply, if you can't get me anything why do you expect me to get you anything.
Again, they will blush and sweetly reply " because you are rich ".
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1107997]I made arrangements to meet a DIA girl in General Santos City.[/QUOTE]Wow all the way to Gensan and you get stood up / scammed. I would be pissed. I bet if you stayed longer you would have found something better. I suspect since girls know few guys have any interest in flying into the West side of Mindanao, they figure scamming is what they have. Good thing you didn't offer to pay for her bus ride to Davao to meet you. I might have done that.
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Has to be the buffest Filipina on DIA,
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1107998]I've had many DIA girls ask me what I planned to give them for their birthday, Christmas, or any other occasion they could think of. Some have even come across with the sad stories about needing money for school, baby, sick relative, and so on. Most recently, I was asked to send a laptop to one, so she could keep in touch with me more easily (and all the other suckers I'm sure).[/QUOTE]To all girls asking for money I tell them I cannot send money because I have problem with my western union account.
Then they generally shut up. One girl even said she did not eat because she has no money for rice but looked healthy not malnourished. I told she survived without me helping her before and she will find a way to survive.
The new thing with these girls is they wait patiently saying in the begining that she does not want money but slowly hinting no money for this and that. Suddenly after you get to know her more she will say things like she cannot spend birthday, no money for x mas etc.
Once again do not send any money till you meet and get to like her. After that it is your decision.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1108144]Has to be the buffest Filipina on DIA,[/QUOTE]
I know her!
Ha Ha Ha his one sent me an Email with pics many years ago. I will search for them and post them here.
I nearly had to vomit after I opened that Email.
Ram
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1108144]Has to be the buffest Filipina on DIA,[/QUOTE]Is that a "buff lady," or buff ladyboy? .
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Filipina?
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1108144]Has to be the buffest Filipina on DIA,[/QUOTE]. I agree, that thing looks more like a dude than anything else, expecially the face. .
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1108178]Is that a "buff lady," or buff ladyboy? .[/QUOTE]I think she has to be female as she competes in womens bodybuilding events. She also has a child.
Just imagine having them meaty thighs wrapped around you? One over energetic squeeze and your head would pop like the top off a toothpaste tube!
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1108315]I think she has to be female as she competes in womens bodybuilding events. She also has a child.
Just imagine having them meaty thighs wrapped around you? One over energetic squeeze and your head would pop like the top off a toothpaste tube! [/QUOTE]I actually know her. She is a nice person; even a little shy. She lives in Santiago City in Isabela in Nthn Luzon. She has her own little local gym there, and often comes to Manila for serious training with her German trainer (who lives in Manila).
She looks quite pleasant (her legs are great) when she wears a dress that covers the shoulders and arms.
But she is a very serious body-builder and is also seriously looking for a serious guy.
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Alright.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1108315]I think she has to be female as she competes in womens bodybuilding events. She also has a child.
Just imagine having them meaty thighs wrapped around you? One over energetic squeeze and your head would pop like the top off a toothpaste tube! [/QUOTE]Alright then, let's say that the previous picture didn't show her best angle. .
Female bodybuilder can be an interesting experience, but be aware, a lot depends on how into the sport they are and what are their contacts. As a rule of thumb, the anabolics they take, besides having the effect of buffing them up, tend to grow their clitoris into a sort of mini dick. And well, okay they still lack balls but hey! .
Real pro female atlethes tho, the ones that have first class connections with dedicated labs have access to some kind of uncommon steroids that don't tend to turn them into a man.
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Date Piracy . A new scam?
Had quite an amusing situation a couple of days ago. I'd been chatting to a promising contact based in Lapu Lapu. We agreed to meet at 5pm at SM mall. She texted me to meet her outside the National Book Store. I duely made my way to the store where a young woman recognized me and came up to me said Hello, and where are we going to go etc. My high hopes for this date were dashed. Apart from medium length black hair she looked nothing like her profile pic. Whereas she had claimed she was slim this woman was a serious tubby. Her voice and daubed makeup made me suspicious that she was a LB. The main thing playing against this hypothesis was that most LBs are more attractive than this creature. She obviously sensed my discomfort and asked whether I liked her. I explained that she looked nothing like her profile and I was indeed disappointed and didn't think it was worth going somewhere to eat. She said, OK well I'll go in that case, but please cover my taxi cost. How much I asked. 500P was the answer. I told her she must be joking and gave her 100P and told her she shouldn't have told lies re her profile.
Anyhow I went off to look around the computer stores. About 10 mins later I had a couple more texts, where are you? I'm fed up with waiting, I'm going now? Etc I called and had some typically confused poor quality tel exchange. 10 mins later I met up with my real date who I was immediately very attracted to a real sweetheart. She said she had thought it was me when I fist come to the Book Store, but had seen me walk off with another girl and therefore had been confused. All' s well that end's well and she left me a day and a half later for her cal center job, not even being too disconcerted by the appearance of a couple of my regular girls around midday the following day.
I don't know whether this was a one off genuine misunderstanding or whether this is a girl and maybe others hang out at strategic points in the malls ready to hijack other girl's blind dates. Anyone had a similar experience?
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1108178]Is that a "buff lady," or buff ladyboy? .[/QUOTE]She actually IS a female as she has a female christian name and also. As said. Attended in a contest with female body builders.
I will search that Email long ago and will post the pics here in the Forum.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon;1108558]this is a girl and maybe others hang out at strategic points in the malls ready to hijack other girl's blind dates. Anyone had a similar experience?[/QUOTE]Hmm that would be bold, but given Philippina's look so similar.
I suggest you try a challenge-response system. Like those airborne troops in D-Day: "Thunder" "Lightning".
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1108478]I actually know her. She is a nice person; even a little shy. She lives in Santiago City in Isabela in Nthn Luzon. She has her own little local gym there, and often comes to Manila for serious training with her German trainer (who lives in Manila).
She looks quite pleasant (her legs are great) when she wears a dress that covers the shoulders and arms.
But she is a very serious body-builder and is also seriously looking for a serious guy. [/QUOTE]Rk.
As you know her so well maybe you should take one for the team and do an insightful FR of what she is like in bed LOL. Am sure her peach is rock hard given the pictures posted.
I know you are not shy but best take an oxygen tank in case she gets you ina vice like grip with her legs while you DATY :eek:
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Sorry the Pics forum has been taken over by HIV topic.
Not sure if this is the ugly muscle chic 3rd from the last one but if not she is buff and ugly too.
[url]http://ethionamide.org/asian-fitness-women-the-top-ten-asian-fitness-beauties-for-february/[/url]
[QUOTE=Rampana; 1108565]She actually IS a female as she has a female christian name and also. As said. Attended in a contest with female body builders.
I will search that Email long ago and will post the pics here in the Forum. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1108708]Rk.
As you know her so well maybe you should take one for the team and do an insightful FR of what she is like in bed LOL. Am sure her peach is rock hard given the pictures posted.
I know you are not shy but best take an oxygen tank in case she gets you ina vice like grip with her legs while you DATY. [/QUOTE]Ahhh WR. When I say I "know" her your mind immediately flashes back to those religious education lessons you had at elementary school and how the Bible uses "Knowing a woman".
No way would I go anywhere near her peach or rock or buff or anything else. I much prefer warm soft peach-shaped formations. The very same thing being offered up to you by Cebu favorite.
You have any interesting FRs for us mate? Any chocolate bullet nipples popped into your bed lately?
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[QUOTE=GregLondon;1108558]I don't know whether this was a one off genuine misunderstanding or whether this is a girl and maybe others hang out at strategic points in the malls ready to hijack other girl's blind dates. Anyone had a similar experience?[/QUOTE]Yea happens all the time. Usually either.
1) The tubby was waiting for another foreigner, and mistook him for you.
2) It's a ladyboy trolling the mall for hookups, and no, they are not all pretty haha.
Make sure you use webcam before you meet them, but I know, after you met 100+ girls, the faces tend to blur in your memory.
Modern phones have the ability to store a photo in the phonebook attached to the phone number.. I use it to remind myself who the heck I am meeting on that day haha
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1108772]You have any interesting FRs for us mate? Any chocolate bullet nipples popped into your bed lately?[/QUOTE]LOL.
Check the Photo Gallery for more chocolate shaped nipples. About time that was full of pictures not the current crap on safe sex etc.
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Findloveasia. Com . Free asian dating site
I've just been trying out findloveasia. Com
Seems to be a new totally free asian / filipina oriented web site.
Much better functionality than DIA.
4 pics, online chat option, search options location / kids / age / smoking / drinking body type etc.
Ie most of the functionality of the pay sites Cherry Blossoms and Filipina Cupid without the membership costs.
Initial thoughts: nice clean interface, excellent functionality fro a free site, hope it succeeds, so far far fewer members than the major sites but early days.
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Greg have you been hanging arround WR again? Kids? That does not sound like you. LOL kidding. Get it kidding.
[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1109357]Much better functionality than DIA.
4 pics, online chat option, search options location / kids / age / smoking / drinking body type etc.[/QUOTE]
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Telling DIA girls too much information in advance
I posted a reply on another board that is partially reprinted below in response to a young newbie poster who was on his first trip to the Phils and was planning to take a girl he had met on DIA to a number of tourist places in the Phils. The girl is 23, lists her occupation as "waitress", and comes from Angeles. He described her as sweet, very smart, and definitely a keeper (hmmmm; yeah. Right). Clearly he does not yet understand that "waitress" is a euphemism for 1000s of jobs in AC.
Anyway. Unfortunately, newbies often make a fundamental mistake in that they actually believe that everything that transpires between them and a girl in chat is both true and that it WILL happen as planned.
I gave him some tips as a monger with heaps of experience interracting with and then (sometimes) meeting women from DIA.
"Whatever you do DON'T make specific plans with her about taking her anywhere until AFTER you have met her in person.
Despite having chatted with cams and even spoken on cell phone, many (most) girls are NOT the same when you meet them.
Sometimes they turn out to be even better, but often they are a disappointment"
As someone else added to my original post, sometimes they can just irritate you or they have halitosis or they have a stinky pussy etc. All things that long detailed chats with cams cannot determine.
This guy had obviously made lots of promises to her about going here, there and everywhere with him to get her "onside". I told him that he doesn't need to make all of these sorts of promises to her in advance just so she will meet you. She will be VERY keen to meet up even if you don't promise her all these wonderful places to visit. When she turns out to be just the girl you wanted then you can shower her with largesse, but hold your fire until after you have checked her out "in real" (as they say).
I reprinted my advice to him here because I think some guys (especially newbies) get all befuddled by the ease with which you can chat with beautiful women on a chat site.
There is a big difference between the "virtual" world and the "real" world.
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[QUOTE=Funktup;1108975]I fucking love DIA![/QUOTE]Funktup.
Correction. You like fucking DIA girls. As I know LOL
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1109586]I posted a reply on another board that is partially reprinted below in response to a young newbie poster who was on his first trip to the Phils and was planning to take a girl he had met on DIA to a number of tourist places in the Phils. The girl is 23, lists her occupation as "waitress", and comes from Angeles. He described her as sweet, very smart, and definitely a keeper (hmmmm; yeah. Right). Clearly he does not yet understand that "waitress" is a euphemism for 1000s of jobs in AC.
Anyway. Unfortunately, newbies often make a fundamental mistake in that they actually believe that everything that transpires between them and a girl in chat is both true and that it WILL happen as planned.
I gave him some tips as a monger with heaps of experience interracting with and then (sometimes) meeting women from DIA.
"Whatever you do DON'T make specific plans with her about taking her anywhere until AFTER you have met her in person.
Despite having chatted with cams and even spoken on cell phone, many (most) girls are NOT the same when you meet them.
Sometimes they turn out to be even better, but often they are a disappointment"
As someone else added to my original post, sometimes they can just irritate you or they have halitosis or they have a stinky pussy etc. All things that long detailed chats with cams cannot determine.
This guy had obviously made lots of promises to her about going here, there and everywhere with him to get her "onside". I told him that he doesn't need to make all of these sorts of promises to her in advance just so she will meet you. She will be VERY keen to meet up even if you don't promise her all these wonderful places to visit. When she turns out to be just the girl you wanted then you can shower her with largesse, but hold your fire until after you have checked her out "in real" (as they say).
I reprinted my advice to him here because I think some guys (especially newbies) get all befuddled by the ease with which you can chat with beautiful women on a chat site.
There is a big difference between the "virtual" world and the "real" world. [/QUOTE]You said it perfectly right RK. I'm going there next weekend and in theory I have 7 bookings in a 3 day slot. Now I know that some won't work for various reasons but I will be fine with 5.
Rather like a cricket match really. You're not sure whether with 5 wickets down its a good performance or not. Unless of course its the English batting in which case the Aussies know you will have 100's more runs scored against you. Just in case you thought the cricket jokes had ended RK!
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[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1109357]I've just been trying out findloveasia. Com
Seems to be a new totally free asian / filipina oriented web site.
Much better functionality than DIA.
4 pics, online chat option, search options location / kids / age / smoking / drinking body type etc.
Ie most of the functionality of the pay sites Cherry Blossoms and Filipina Cupid without the membership costs.
Initial thoughts: nice clean interface, excellent functionality fro a free site, hope it succeeds, so far far fewer members than the major sites but early days.[/QUOTE]I joined today, and quite a few girls with no pics and no really stunners surfaced yet. But 5 have given me a phone number already (without me saying anything). Theres the normal sprinkling of young to old. Pics are larger and better than DIA and has the option to show additional pics. Not as fast to load as DIA. And I've already seen some of my former DIA " conquests " there. LOL
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Find love Asia, date in Asia. Something in Asia
Got a message on YM today from some girl I've never talked to before.
Said she got my name from a website, had seen my pic, was interested to meet, and sent me her number.
I replied and saw she was a 30 year old, with lovely smile home alone somewhere in Cavite.
I told her I was in Manila next week and maybe we could meet. She insisted on checking that I now had her number again. I confirmed I had.
I told her I needed a sleep, but I couldn't sleep so I watched some movies of me and my old girlfriend.
I got another message from her mid wank as it were, asking what day we could meet.
I told her I was naked and busy so she asked if she could join.
So there are we are doing the webcam thing. 15 minutes after saying Hello.
Her body confirmed she should be on my "doables " list for my next week trip. She says she can't wait to meet me. And with her little warm body, I think Ms 30 from Cavite will get what she wants. Especially as we will meet at Heritage hotel and take a little Sogo trip therafter!
I love Lifes unexpected moments!
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1110237]I got another message from her mid wank as it were, asking what day we could meet.
I told her I was naked and busy so she asked if she could join.
So there are we are doing the webcam thing. 15 minutes after saying Hello.
I love Lifes unexpected moments! [/QUOTE]Evil Twin.
An interesting FR. But will need to work harder to put out of my mind that you are now a web cam star. Please ask Ms Cavite to post any of the web photos she took on those twisted web sites LOL.
I get lots of weirdo YMs but these are from Arfican who claim they are Americans now living in Ghana, Nigeria. Even get some weirdo PMs
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1110587]Evil Twin.
I get lots of weirdo YMs but these are from Arfican who claim they are Americans now living in Ghana, Nigeria. Even get some weirdo PMs[/QUOTE]I get those "American in Ghana" YMs all the time also. When that line comes across the chat, I block the user.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1110590]I get those "American in Ghana" YMs all the time also. When that line comes across the chat, I block the user.[/QUOTE]It's funny but whenever I tell them I am in Ghana too (although I usually forget to use the proxy when I am really there and get blocked off the site) and ask them to meet me at a certain location they tend to disappear. Once the person asked me if I was a scammer and I told them that I was. They admitted that they were too then disappeared.
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DIA pickup
As most of you already know. DIA is a fantastic place to meet chicks for pre-arranged fun. I had been chatting one Cebuana 18yo up and got straight to the point with her. I would take her shopping, dinner and back to my room for some sweet lovemaking afterward. She agree without hesitation, even though she claimed she 'had never been touched." I met her at the Robinson Place Mall in Cebu City as arranged. She had on a short skirt and tee shirt. Her legs got me hard from the start. We skipped the shopping bit at her suggestion and she had already eaten so I told her we'd go to my room first and I would give her some money to shop later. Back in my room she was very quiet and nervous. But as soon as I sat down on the couch beside her and started to caress her and give her a kiss, she warmed up instantly. I kissed her and started working my hand up her thigh and she spread her legs and started to moan. I soon had her panties down around her ankles and her skirt up around her midriff, tee shirt up and bra off. I fingered her for a while while sucking her young titties then carried her to the bed and layed her back, went down on her, lickiing and fingering her. It was obvious she had never experienced this before. She was writhing and moaning and grabbing my hair. I moved up and rubbed the head of my cock over her tight pussy next. . She looked down and gave me a nervous look but spread her legs for me and covered her face. She was very wet and I soon was able to work it in. Only halfway at first. Then after I moved up for some kissing and sucking her titties, she got even wetter and I went to work. Fucking her deeply, popping her tight cherry and feeling her orgasms gripping my dick for the first time she'd ever had one. I laid back next and pulled her on top of me. And she rode me slowly as I grabbed her ass and sucked her titties some more. I grabbed her tiny ass hard harder and made her ride me harder and she soon was cumming again. As she got tired, I stood her up and bent her over slightly and worked it into her still throbbing pussy from behind at the edge of the bed. Grabbing and smacking that hot tight ass made her knees buckle but she managed to take it and let me fuck her til I spun her around and came all over her budding titties. She ran to the shower after that. Came back out all shy like we'd just met again, fully clothed and sat down on the couch. She told me she had to go but wanted to know if we could do this again. Tomorrow. And the next day. And every day til I left town. She was sweet and nervous but tight and wet as they come. I gave her 1000 pesos and taxi fare and sent her home. She seemed very happy with what I had done to her..and given her. She was quite the hot little fuck for the next 5 days in a row.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1109609]You said it perfectly right RK. I'm going there next weekend and in theory I have 7 bookings in a 3 day slot. Now I know that some won't work for various reasons but I will be fine with 5.
Rather like a cricket match really. You're not sure whether with 5 wickets down its a good performance or not. Unless of course its the English batting in which case the Aussies know you will have 100's more runs scored against you. Just in case you thought the cricket jokes had ended RK! [/QUOTE]Send me a text when you are in-between assignations FF.
I hope you get your 5 out of 7. As for cricket, there are spoil-sports on the board who don't like us talking about "in-house" jokes, and I fully support them.
There should not ever be ANY reference to cricket on this site EVER AGAIN.
Now, as I was saying, I will check out findloveasia. Com and see which women are doubling up on this site too.
BTW, as I have posted before, I had another experience of a girl's profile on DIA being completely opposite to how she turned out. Her profile said "Shy, good girl, wants to meet nice guy. No playing etc".
We met at MOA, sat down for coffee, and she wanted to sit next to me on the bench seat in the coffee shop (and I mean "next to me", as in "right up close touching from shoulder to knees").
Within 30 mins we were heading for SOGO and 3 hours of bliss.
Profiles really don't mean much at all, so don't be put off by them on your initial contact.
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One Way Ferry Ticket?
Twice in the last week I had girls ask for money for return ferry fare from the provinces to Manila. Twice I asked who would be so frigg'ng stupid as to only buy a one way ticket and then spend all of their money in the province.
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DIA encounters.
Heard from one girl I know in Davao all teary eyed today. Said some Australian guy (No RK its not a joke about burnt sports equipment) had scammed her by promising to pay for photos of her. She said she sent them to him but he never paid for them. She then started laughing and said the photos she had sent him werent of her. This world has all sorts of characters.
Then I had an YM chat with an old friend. Ms A used to be the hottest girl in Rogues till the mamasn fired her for being too much a party girl.
I remember her totally naked on the bar one drunken wine and cheese party. She was great fun and really loved to party with boys and girls. Got a memorable blow from her in Rockwell cinema one day.
Anyways today we are chatting and she's says she can't stay for long.
Her Hubbie (a Swiss guy) was home, they now live in the province, she doesn't see guys anymore, misses to see girls, and says she's now a dutiful wife with baby as well.
Some guys here probably know who I'm talking about. Funny how the girls change but we horny Andersons and horny Cooks don't.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1110893]Twice in the last week I had girls ask for money for return ferry fare from the provinces to Manila. Twice I asked who would be so frigg'ng stupid as to only buy a one way ticket and then spend all of their money in the province.[/QUOTE]They could say "well I will find aguy even more stupid to pay the return fare later" and they will find trust me LOL
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[QUOTE=D Cups;1110927]Great story. Thanks, GG.[/QUOTE]Cheers for the note. .
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1110237]Got a message on YM today from some girl I've never talked to before.
Said she got my name from a website, had seen my pic, was interested to meet, and sent me her number.
I replied and saw she was a 30 year old, with lovely smile home alone somewhere in Cavite.
I told her I was in Manila next week and maybe we could meet. She insisted on checking that I now had her number again. I confirmed I had.
I told her I needed a sleep, but I couldn't sleep so I watched some movies of me and my old girlfriend.
I got another message from her mid wank as it were, asking what day we could meet.
I told her I was naked and busy so she asked if she could join.
So there are we are doing the webcam thing. 15 minutes after saying Hello.
Her body confirmed she should be on my "doables " list for my next week trip. She says she can't wait to meet me. And with her little warm body, I think Ms 30 from Cavite will get what she wants. Especially as we will meet at Heritage hotel and take a little Sogo trip therafter!
I love Lifes unexpected moments! [/QUOTE]FF, I always enjoy your reports, but I have to ask, if she got your name from a website, how did she get your YM?
In the past I have had girls give girls my YM to try and see if I would bite on their friends. Any time I get a YM that is not in my friends list, I do not reply.
Robb
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1110893]Twice in the last week I had girls ask for money for return ferry fare from the provinces to Manila. Twice I asked who would be so frigg'ng stupid as to only buy a one way ticket and then spend all of their money in the province.[/QUOTE]Your are correct, that is one of the oldest scams in the PI. I had a girl in Samar who complained she spent all her money on building her house and could not afford to go back to AC. I told her, it sucks to be her and when I went to AC a week later, she was back in the bar:D
Robb
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Funny why they won't shave
Now this is for you 'neanderthals' (I as call you nicely LOL) who for some unknown twisted reasons like the girls unshaved. Despite my efforts in Cebu to the contrary. Robbaf, David_33 et al please take note of the following DIA girl LOL.
Mentioned in earlier FR a DIA girl who I have known for a while asking for an IPhone for her undying love and devotion to me. That tempered with her rules regarding no nude photos, no CIM, no greek etc. List went on. I played along but she was being very silly and although seriously cute (likes to model, nice body, spinner) there are plenty as cute in Cebu etc much cheaper and less resistant/more compliant to WR's menu :D
This demand regarding her love etc recently dropped to 15k pesos but same conditions. Again I play along (part of me says this is the ex boyfriend who has the ID. But I do manage a very quick cam session of about a minute before the cam went off)
Now she YMs me again (messages like "you want to f#k" etc) saying just buy her a phone and she is mine forever, compliant etc but still same conditions.
Now. Knowing that all (well most) Filipinas understand mobile brands I told her I had a Nokia dual SIM with me (cost $30) she could have and thus deal sealed I could have my wicked way before I left. Of course I am naive LOL. She mentioned the brand and price (Samsung 8k pesos).
So again playing along I agreed, told her wear the pek peks and heels, where to meet in Ayalaetc and then said don't shower just come to the hotel, do it there and shave. Standard words for man of culture like myself :p
Then the bombshell. She would not shave, she was tirmmed some hair but no more. Absolute refusal.
Now tell me guys, have you ever met a Filipina that would not shave for a brand new expensive mobile. Not me. So we cut off YM.
Maybe it was the boyfriend after all but plenty more Cebuanas much cheaper, less demanding and shaved. And if will be the time I get to DATY on them LOL.
Any takers for this DIA girl who says no CIM no Greek no nude photos (well maybe but no face) , hairy muff and much more baggage? PM for details.
Perhaps finally you hair muff lovers a girl who truly loves hair and refuses to shave for any temptations
PS she sent me another YM before I left - a general "Hi boys' message. Amazing memory span!
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WR, I think you should experience the joys of shaving YOUR privates. Then maybe you will understand her refusal.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1111061]PS she sent me another YM before I left - a general "Hi boys' message. Amazing memory span![/QUOTE]Hi Boys? Sounds like you caught a ladyboy buddy.
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[QUOTE=David_33;1111081]WR, I think you should experience the joys of shaving YOUR privates. Then maybe you will understand her refusal.[/QUOTE]Had that done to me in preparation for a surgery (can't remember if it was the removal of my appendix, or the gall bladder). I have no idea why my genitals needed to be hairless for removing something in my gut! Regardless, it was very itchy and uncomfortable for about a week after. Even so, if a horny spinner wanted to shave me, I would let her! .
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[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1111045].
In the past I have had girls give girls my YM to try and see if I would bite on their friends. Any time I get a YM that is not in my friends list, I do not reply.
Robb[/QUOTE]I had a girl in Davao get one of her friends to send me a message on DIA to check up and see if I was a player.
She discovered that I was.
The original girl got pissed off but the friend was seriously cute and I ended up seeing her on the next visit hahaha.
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DIA / Cherry Blossoms
My observation and comparison.
I have been on CB for two months now. At first I got about 80 smiles / e-mails a day for the first two weeks, then it seemed to drop to about 20 per day. This was with very little searching from my side. Two months on and I still get about 10 smiles / e-mails each day. I started by trying to play the nice guy, but after a few weeks and reading this forum, I changed my tact to be more direct about not wanting a serious relationship, and the conversations still continued.
After visiting Makati in December (See FR in that thread) I came to the conclusion that I just don; t have the time to play our a few dates to get the girls in the sack. I also read a number of times how easy it is to get DIA girls into the sack, spelling out exactly what you are looking for.
With another trip on my mind, I thought I would see if a more direct approach would work having read comments about meet-ups from DIA.
So out of curiosity, I joined DIA about 3 weeks ago. I have not searched that much, as I did on CB. I put a message that I am not looking for a serious reltionship, but company on my trip and gifts can be expected. So far I've had 18 interested girls from Philipines and 8 from Thailand.
Obviously I have not got the right MO for this type of meet-up. Any lesssons from anyone. I'm I being too direct on the profile. Is it all in the chat?
Steve
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1111134]Hi Boys? Sounds like you caught a ladyboy buddy.[/QUOTE]She is definitely not a LB as have met her before and I vouch for that LOL
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[QUOTE=David_33;1111081]WR, I think you should experience the joys of shaving YOUR privates. Then maybe you will understand her refusal.[/QUOTE]Daivid.
I do and it is quite liberating LOL As long you don't offer am safe
Now that is a thought to take to dinner, bed etc.
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[QUOTE=Steve Dubai; 1111205]So out of curiosity, I joined DIA about 3 weeks ago. I have not searched that much, as I did on CB. I put a message that I am not looking for a serious reltionship, but company on my trip and gifts can be expected. So far I've had 18 interested girls from Philipines and 8 from Thailand.
Obviously I have not got the right MO for this type of meet-up. Any lesssons from anyone. I'm I being too direct on the profile. Is it all in the chat?
Steve[/QUOTE]Your MO is fine Steve.
I have found that the best approach is to be very direct and very specific in what you want and just be patient until a "live" one comes along.
When I get either the usual irritating "Hi" or "Hi. How are you?" or a "Interested" msg I still respond by asking IF they have read my profile and IF they understand it. I do this especially for the women whose profiles seem to be directly opposite to what I am suggesting.
Around 50% write back saying Yes they understand what I want and are OK with it. Some tell me they didn't write their profile (WTF) ; others say they just copied other profiles.
I then pick the best of this group and follow up.
However, as I and others have said before, there is sometimes a hell of a difference between the girl you chat with (even on cam) and the girl you meet in person, so always give yourself room to ease yourself away if she doesn't shape up. Above all don't tell her where you are staying until you decide to take her there.
I met one today. She was very flirty on chat, looked ok, seemed to promise everything. In person she was shorter and much chubbier than she had said in her stats, and she did nothing for me at all when we met. I bought her a coffee, had a 30 min chat and then sent her on her way without transport costs because she was in my area anyway for a job interview so I felt no obligation for that and she never asked (I usually give them fare if they are not more than 30 mins late LOL).
In general though, if you are on a tight schedule on a visit, I agree that you can waste a lot of time with DIA women and sometimes with not much return. Of course, we can all report the highly successful encounters but it is not likely that these happen every time.
Hope this helps.
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They are experts at positioning the webcam in such a way as to disguise "sub-standard" body parts. Have to insist that they stand up. Many won't saying that there are too many people around and that it would embarrass them.
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[QUOTE=Steve Dubai; 1111205]My observation and comparison.
I have been on CB for two months now. At first I got about 80 smiles / e-mails a day for the first two weeks, then it seemed to drop to about 20 per day. This was with very little searching from my side. Two months on and I still get about 10 smiles / e-mails each day. I started by trying to play the nice guy, but after a few weeks and reading this forum, I changed my tact to be more direct about not wanting a serious relationship, and the conversations still continued.
After visiting Makati in December (See FR in that thread) I came to the conclusion that I just don; t have the time to play our a few dates to get the girls in the sack. I also read a number of times how easy it is to get DIA girls into the sack, spelling out exactly what you are looking for.
With another trip on my mind, I thought I would see if a more direct approach would work having read comments about meet-ups from DIA.
So out of curiosity, I joined DIA about 3 weeks ago. I have not searched that much, as I did on CB. I put a message that I am not looking for a serious reltionship, but company on my trip and gifts can be expected. So far I've had 18 interested girls from Philipines and 8 from Thailand.
Obviously I have not got the right MO for this type of meet-up. Any lesssons from anyone. I'm I being too direct on the profile. Is it all in the chat?
Steve[/QUOTE]Make sure you post here how you went. I might do the same on my next trip in May. If my trip is before yours I will let you know as well.
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Today's Request for Money
[QUOTE=Slippery;1110893]Twice in the last week I had girls ask for money for return ferry fare from the provinces to Manila. Twice I asked who would be so frigg'ng stupid as to only buy a one way ticket and then spend all of their money in the province.[/QUOTE]Tommorow is my birthday and I have no money to celebrate it. I don't even know who the woman is or how she got my yahoo I'd.
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Haha
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1111138]...I have no idea why my genitals needed to be hairless for removing something in my gut! [/QUOTE]Maybe the doc just had a thing for hairless nut sacks? You'll never know what he did while you were unconscious. .
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Percentages.
[QUOTE=Steve Dubai; 1111205]My observation and comparison.
I have been on CB for two months now. At first I got about 80 smiles / e-mails a day for the first two weeks, then it seemed to drop to about 20 per day. This was with very little searching from my side. Two months on and I still get about 10 smiles / e-mails each day. I started by trying to play the nice guy, but after a few weeks and reading this forum, I changed my tact to be more direct about not wanting a serious relationship, and the conversations still continued.
After visiting Makati in December (See FR in that thread) I came to the conclusion that I just don; t have the time to play our a few dates to get the girls in the sack. I also read a number of times how easy it is to get DIA girls into the sack, spelling out exactly what you are looking for.
With another trip on my mind, I thought I would see if a more direct approach would work having read comments about meet-ups from DIA.
So out of curiosity, I joined DIA about 3 weeks ago. I have not searched that much, as I did on CB. I put a message that I am not looking for a serious reltionship, but company on my trip and gifts can be expected. So far I've had 18 interested girls from Philipines and 8 from Thailand.
Obviously I have not got the right MO for this type of meet-up. Any lesssons from anyone. I'm I being too direct on the profile. Is it all in the chat?
Steve[/QUOTE]Dunno if this helps or not, but I find the percentage of DIA girls who are willing to meet up and play is about 60 percent. I message first the ones I like the looks of and tell them straight up front 'love to take you shopping, dinner, then back to my room for some sweet lovemaking afterward." Once I'm in Cebu, those I had emphatic 'yes' hits from show up about 90 percent of the time. I've done this pre-arranged DIA date thing on three separate trips now with the same results. Bear in mind I've always focused on Cebu though, not sure what my success rate might be elsewhere but I suspect pretty close. I'm sure other participants of the forum here would have differing numbers to share.
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Ferry Rides
[QUOTE=Slippery;1110893]Twice in the last week I had girls ask for money for return ferry fare from the provinces to Manila. Twice I asked who would be so frigg'ng stupid as to only buy a one way ticket and then spend all of their money in the province.[/QUOTE]There was one student nurse I had been chatting with and intended to see on my next trip to the Philippines. One day I get a request for $150 for her to return home on a ferry from some other island from an examination study course. I emailed her back to find out exactly where she needed to go.
Then I checked the ferry tickets and saw that I could purchase her a ticket for $12. I emailed her back and told her I would purchase the ticket for her online. Never heard back from her again. I guess she swam and drown. Too bad, she was hot.
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[QUOTE=Paul2020; 1111471]There was one student nurse I had been chatting with and intended to see on my next trip to the Philippines. One day I get a request for $150 for her to return home on a ferry from some other island from an examination study course. I emailed her back to find out exactly where she needed to go.
Then I checked the ferry tickets and saw that I could purchase her a ticket for $12. I emailed her back and told her I would purchase the ticket for her online. Never heard back from her again. I guess she swam and drown. Too bad, she was hot. [/QUOTE]That is alaways a good trick to remember. Say you will help but you will buy the ticket online and she can collect it. Tends to weed them out. Some will say don't as aunty / cousin etc gets a great discount.
If buying anything use the creidt card as then you can reclaim etc.
The scammers hate credit cards as they know they can't do much and can't get the casheven if they pick up the ticket
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1111376]Maybe the doc just had a thing for hairless nut sacks? You'll never know what he did while you were unconscious. .[/QUOTE]The reason is from the risk of infections that can be carried by hairs. Standard medical procedure.
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You have to wonder what goes on with some girls
Been chatting to one girl from some province, can't really remember which. She Says its a 10 hour bus ride to Manila.
She looks fine on cam, is 23, and her pics also look fine. Weve been chatting for all of one week. She says she wants to come from whatever province to meet me. We've agreed that I will meet her at 10am on Saturday morning after her 10 hour bus ride.
She hasnt asked for one centavo, or asked how long we will be together only that we enjoy each others company. Says she doesn't mind if I dress her up (got some new uniforms!) , or take pics etc.
Just says she wants to get hot with me. 10 hours to be with a total stranger. Takes all sorts I guess.
She will probably be kicked out of her Sogo bed after 4 hours as I have others in line. But I'm just astonished that a gal would sit on a crappy bus for 10 hours to get laid. I'm sure I'd only sit on a bus for 2. LOL.
Then again was chatting with a gal from Davao recently, and we start talking about life and love and sex, and she says she could come to Manila if I wanted, and we could split the airfare. I ask her why, she says " I'm lonely and I want some fun" Says " my friends have fun so I think I should have too". Medium build, big tits. 32.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1111377]Dunno if this helps or not, but I find the percentage of DIA girls who are willing to meet up and play is about 60 percent. I message first the ones I like the looks of and tell them straight up front 'love to take you shopping, dinner, then back to my room for some sweet lovemaking afterward." Once I'm in Cebu, those I had emphatic 'yes' hits from show up about 90 percent of the time. I've done this pre-arranged DIA date thing on three separate trips now with the same results. Bear in mind I've always focused on Cebu though, not sure what my success rate might be elsewhere but I suspect pretty close. I'm sure other participants of the forum here would have differing numbers to share.[/QUOTE]Out of those I meet and I always have a plan A and Plan B lined up I'm hitting about 80. Every trip I repeat with some and also a new one or two. Seems to work well. Usually will go for a daytime girl an evening one. After a nice drink and a meal they are always ready to go home with me it seems. I leave the 18-20s tear olds to WR but I'm fine with 21-25s and that seems to work well. Ocassionally they will whinge about having no job and can they " lend some money" but sometimes not. Either way I give them a gift. And that aways helps with getting repeats.
I think its how you approach. Mine is softly softly, and they all think I'm a great gentleman. Even when I ask politely "can I remove your panties please ".
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1110649]As most of you already know. DIA is a fantastic place to meet chicks for pre-arranged fun. I had been chatting one Cebuana 18yo up and got straight to the point with her. I would take her shopping, dinner and back to my room for some sweet lovemaking afterward. She agree without hesitation, even though she claimed she 'had never been touched." I met her at the Robinson Place Mall in Cebu City as arranged. She had on a short skirt and tee shirt. Her legs got me hard from the start. We skipped the shopping bit at her suggestion and she had already eaten so I told her we'd go to my room first and I would give her some money to shop later. Back in my room she was very quiet and nervous. But as soon as I sat down on the couch beside her and started to caress her and give her a kiss, she warmed up instantly. I kissed her and started working my hand up her thigh and she spread her legs and started to moan. I soon had her panties down around her ankles and her skirt up around her midriff, tee shirt up and bra off. I fingered her for a while while sucking her young titties then carried her to the bed and layed her back, went down on her, lickiing and fingering her. It was obvious she had never experienced this before. She was writhing and moaning and grabbing my hair. I moved up and rubbed the head of my cock over her tight pussy next. . She looked down and gave me a nervous look but spread her legs for me and covered her face. She was very wet and I soon was able to work it in. Only halfway at first. Then after I moved up for some kissing and sucking her titties, she got even wetter and I went to work. Fucking her deeply, popping her tight cherry and feeling her orgasms gripping my dick for the first time she'd ever had one. I laid back next and pulled her on top of me. And she rode me slowly as I grabbed her ass and sucked her titties some more. I grabbed her tiny ass hard harder and made her ride me harder and she soon was cumming again. As she got tired, I stood her up and bent her over slightly and worked it into her still throbbing pussy from behind at the edge of the bed. Grabbing and smacking that hot tight ass made her knees buckle but she managed to take it and let me fuck her til I spun her around and came all over her budding titties. She ran to the shower after that. Came back out all shy like we'd just met again, fully clothed and sat down on the couch. She told me she had to go but wanted to know if we could do this again. Tomorrow. And the next day. And every day til I left town. She was sweet and nervous but tight and wet as they come. I gave her 1000 pesos and taxi fare and sent her home. She seemed very happy with what I had done to her..and given her. She was quite the hot little fuck for the next 5 days in a row.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1111723&viewfull=1#post1111723[/url]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1111661]I think its how you approach. Mine is softly softly, and they all think I'm a great gentleman. Even when I ask politely "can I remove your panties please ".[/QUOTE]You are a man after my own heart. It must be the shared tyke blood:).
I learned long ago, that it is necessary to be ultra-polite with Filipinas in order to get your wicked way. It reaps big dividends. In everyday life, Filipinos are routinely polite to each other and I have learned to follow suit. Won't call men sir (I always call them boss, which they like even more) but I always call women ma'am or miss which always elicits a positive response. I have seen too many ignorant, rude Kanos get increasingly frustrated and angry in their dealings with stubborn Pinoys when a little good manners would have quickly defused an uncomfortable situation.
In a similar vein, have you noticed how some Pinays carry on calling you Sir even when you are discussing, in intimate physical detail, what you are going to do to them? It can be quite a turn on.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1111623]She will probably be kicked out of her Sogo bed after 4 hours as I have others in line. But I'm just astonished that a gal would sit on a crappy bus for 10 hours to get laid. I'm sure I'd only sit on a bus for 2. LOL.[/QUOTE]Funny, though, how guys will put up with 14-16 hours on a much more uncomfortable plane to get to the same Pinay poontang;).
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1111623]She hasnt asked for one centavo, or asked how long we will be together only that we enjoy each others company. Says she doesn't mind if I dress her up (got some new uniforms!) , or take pics etc.[/QUOTE]I, too, now have a decent collection of fantasy uniforms (isn't Ebay wonderful?) , which most of my Pinays just love to be dressed up in. My current fave is the air hostess gear. Couldn't get a real Air Asia uniform (has any full blooded male not lusted after one of their immaculately dressed trolley dollies) so it had to be the next best thing. Whoaaa, we are coming in for landing, return your air hostess to a vertical position!
Help, I'm turning into a dirty old man:D.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1110941]They could say "well I will find aguy even more stupid to pay the return fare later" and they will find trust me LOL[/QUOTE]I thought you guys are smart enough not to ask such questions.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1111851]You are a man after my own heart. It must be the shared tyke blood.
Help, I'm turning into a dirty old man.[/QUOTE]And what's wrong with being a dirty old man? Isn't life wonderful once you've understood how these young ladies enjoy the company of dirty old men?
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1111851]I, too, now have a decent collection of fantasy uniforms (isn't Ebay wonderful?) , which most of my Pinays just love to be dressed up in. My current fave is the air hostess gear. Couldn't get a real Air Asia uniform (has any full blooded male not lusted after one of their immaculately dressed trolley dollies) so it had to be the next best thing. Whoaaa, we are coming in for landing, return your air hostess to a vertical position!
Help, I'm turning into a dirty old man.[/QUOTE]Funny, I have two airhostess uniforms, in my Manila bag ready for use this weekend.
Interestingly here in Taipei they have a street that rents uniforms for the weekend to anyone who wants to rent.
Its usually the anime age group who rents and its all done quite openly, deposit paid etc.
They have air hostess, nurse, police but the most popular, aside from Sailor Moon types, are cheerleaders. Will be having a look at those after this trip.
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Most random ever
Haha. Just got this totally unsolicited one word message, with me mentioning not one thing about China.
"ok"
Lotus10, 50, China 3 hrs. 18 mins ago.
Ok
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1111971]Funny, I have two airhostess uniforms, in my Manila bag ready for use this weekend.
Interestingly here in Taipei they have a street that rents uniforms for the weekend to anyone who wants to rent.
Its usually the anime age group who rents and its all done quite openly, deposit paid etc.
They have air hostess, nurse, police but the most popular, aside from Sailor Moon types, are cheerleaders. Will be having a look at those after this trip. [/QUOTE]Can we get more info on this? Name of the street / prices? Taipei has been on my rader for while but never got the time to visit.
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Today's Request for Money
I have dengue fever. Can you send me $100. 00?
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I've never used such a direct profile, but I think 60% is about what I've achieved on the Visayans and Mindanao on a first or second date. A majority of the 40% failure tends to be those who didn't pass muster on the first date.
Recently came back from a rare tour of Subic / AC / Mnl. I don't think these places give good value for your online chat endeavors, unless you have a lot of time and patience. X.
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1111377]Dunno if this helps or not, but I find the percentage of DIA girls who are willing to meet up and play is about 60 percent. I message first the ones I like the looks of and tell them straight up front 'love to take you shopping, dinner, then back to my room for some sweet lovemaking afterward." Once I'm in Cebu, those I had emphatic 'yes' hits from show up about 90 percent of the time. I've done this pre-arranged DIA date thing on three separate trips now with the same results. Bear in mind I've always focused on Cebu though, not sure what my success rate might be elsewhere but I suspect pretty close. I'm sure other participants of the forum here would have differing numbers to share.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mc Don;1112254]Can we get more info on this? Name of the street / prices? Taipei has been on my rader for while but never got the time to visit.[/QUOTE]Theres one street in Ximen district, Hangzhou Lu, and they have nurses outfits, police, hostess, cheerleaders, and sailor moon all hanging on poles. Prices, to buy is about NT$ 750 or US$22. To rent for the weekend only 20% of that total. It seems its where all the students go before they go for a bonk.
An ISG bud in Taipei put on to this place, and I can see I might be a visitor there till I have the full fantasy uniform "set" LOL
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1112337]I have dengue fever. Can you send me $100. 00?[/QUOTE]Haha. I once had a girl tell me she needed money for her sick grandmother's hospital expenses....just two days after she had also told me her grandmother had died and she needed money to bury her. Forgetful, that one.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1112432]Haha. I once had a girl tell me she needed money for her sick grandmother's hospital expenses....just two days after she had also told me her grandmother had died and she needed money to bury her. Forgetful, that one.[/QUOTE]Don't be such a Doubting Thomas! Everyone knows that Filipino witch doctors are frequently able to bring the dead back to life. Clearly, this is what happened here. .
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Yet another on-line dating scam
Check out this link. Note carefully the final line in the article.
[url]http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20110114/tph-phl-post-in-guangzhou-warns-vs-onlin-ac8c905.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy;1112480]Don't be such a Doubting Thomas! Everyone knows that Filipino witch doctors are frequently able to bring the dead back to life. Clearly, this is what happened here. .[/QUOTE]Did I miss something here? She said that her grandmother died 2 days AFTER needing her hospital expenses paid. Sounds quite normal to me with the public hospitals in the Philippines. Maybe they decided to exact revenge when she wasn't able to pay her bill
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Grab a gran, any gran!
[QUOTE=Mortman;1112640]Did I miss something here? [/QUOTE]No, she asked for hep with hospital expenses 2 days post mortem. Mind you this also is possible as the hospital could have been chasing outstanding bills (although its unlikely as it is pay as you go in Philippine hospitals). Of course, she could have two grannies, each sick at the same time. And a three legged Caribou requiring an artificial limb!
I used to use a similar excuse of a grannies demise and funeral when I needed a day off work. That is until my boss asked me how come I'd got three grandmothers:).
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy;1112480]Don't be such a Doubting Thomas! Everyone knows that Filipino witch doctors are frequently able to bring the dead back to life. Clearly, this is what happened here. .[/QUOTE]Haha. Yah, probably.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1112653]No, she asked for hep with hospital expenses 2 days post mortem. Mind you this also is possible as the hospital could have been chasing outstanding bills (although its unlikely as it is pay as you go in Philippine hospitals). Of course, she could have two grannies, each sick at the same time. And a three legged Caribou requiring an artificial limb!
I used to use a similar excuse of a grannies demise and funeral when I needed a day off work. That is until my boss asked me how come I'd got three grandmothers. [/QUOTE]The girl was just lying to me and forgot her own lie. That was my point. And she did mention a caribou too now that I think about it.
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Theres still some real darlings out there....
....I know 'because I met one last night. A perfect little spinner, with glowing brown skin, perfect complexion (often a let down with Manila girls), shiny black page boy hairstyle and a body to die for. All in a pint size frame. She was also a smiley, happy young thing, neither too sassy and streetwise, nor too naive and brain dead, like so many Pinays. I really thought that I had died and gone to mongering heaven.
And not only that but when I got her into a Eurotel room (yes, I did charm my way into her teeny weeny knickers) she turned out to be a mattress firecracker. I was so astonished and bedazzled that I forgot to ask for dirty photos! Am I losing it? Never mind, there's always the next time:).
My perfect ten.
Help, I'm in lust (again);).
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1112656]The girl was just lying to me and forgot her own lie. That was my point. And she did mention a caribou too now that I think about it.[/QUOTE]Just a point of clarification guys.
The animal in the Philippines that attracts so much call for funding is a carabao (spelt kalabaw in Tagalog).
It is often also called the water buffalo but not to be confused with the wild ones that inhabit outback Australia or Africa. The carabao is a very docile and hard-working animal.
The caribou is a cold-weather animal from northern cold climates.
As you were. Back to tales of woe.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1112659]. I know 'because I met one last night. A perfect little spinner, with glowing brown skin, perfect complexion (often a let down with Manila girls) , shiny black page boy hairstyle and a body to die for. All in a pint size frame. She was also a smiley, happy young thing, neither too sassy and streetwise, nor too naive and brain dead, like so many Pinays. I really thought that I had died and gone to mongering heaven.
And not only that but when I got her into a Eurotel room (yes, I did charm my way into her teeny weeny knickers) she turned out to be a mattress firecracker. I was so astonished and bedazzled that I forgot to ask for dirty photos! Am I losing it? Never mind, there's always the next time.
My perfect ten.
Help, I'm in lust (again). [/QUOTE]Coool. Good on yer. And did you meet this one DIA or elsewhere?
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Helping out poor young students
[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1112786]Coool. Good on yer. And did you meet this one DIA or elsewhere?[/QUOTE]Tagged. She had just joined and hit lucky immediately (that is if she considers meeting a randy old perve like me, lucky). She is a real student (saw the pictures and her college ID) so, before you ask, I made the unasked for, but well deserved small contribution to her education fund;).
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I had a boss who insisted on sending flowers to the funeral home. I had no fkn idea since I was over 1000 miles away, so just blurted out a funeral home that I knew. Somehow the SOB was able to determine which funeral home it was because the flowers were there. And it wasn't the place I had suggested. I guess I was happy to see these unexpected flowers, but also couldn't help thinking that this was a devious way of searching out liars. I'm not a liar. Not usually.
CS, are you a liar? X.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1112653]I used to use a similar excuse of a grannies demise and funeral when I needed a day off work. That is until my boss asked me how come I'd got three grandmothers:).[/QUOTE]
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Free in the afternoons.
R Qui is an 18 year old student on DIA. She is "free in the afternoons".
I contacted her and flat out said that I wanted to see her in my hotel room for a couple of hours next week. She asked if I would pay her, we agreed on a price in chat, and I might meet her next week. I can't say anything about her service levels, she stated in chat that she "doesn't care about price" and "just loves to fuck"; but that was after she asked for 3, 000 pesos as a first up request! Needless to say I baulked at that figure.
She doesn't like smokers, and from what I can see of her Facebook pics she has a baby already (so maybe she really does just love to fuck!).
Here is her DIA [url]http://www.dateinasia.com/r.qui.html[/url]
I already have an evening date with a lass that WR recommended, but, I'm thinking of meeting this young spinner as a pre dinner snack.
I shall report back if I do venture forth, and please, if you contact her don't mention that you read about it here. I had a girl back out of an appointment last year after some other monger contacted her and said that he'd read on here that she would have sex for money! Try and be discreet and contact her as you would independent of this imformation.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1112891]Tagged. She had just joined and hit lucky immediately (that is if she considers meeting a randy old perve like me, lucky). She is a real student (saw the pictures and her college ID) so, before you ask, I made the unasked for, but well deserved small contribution to her education fund;).[/QUOTE]Haha. Well done!
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[QUOTE=Suwon; 1113006]R Qui is an 18 year old student on DIA. She is "free in the afternoons".
And please, if you contact her don't mention that you read about it here. I had a girl back out of an appointment last year after some other monger contacted her and said that he'd read on here that she would have sex for money! [/QUOTE]After having that experience, I think I would hold off on posting anything on here until after meeting the girl in person. That way, at least you can test drive her and tell us if she performs as well as she promises to do. I don't know why anybody would contact a potential contact of another monger, and tell her about this site. For that matter, why tell any woman about this site?
Just MHO.
HW
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Rqui
[QUOTE=Suwon; 1113006]R Qui is an 18 year old student on DIA. She is "free in the afternoons".
I contacted her and flat out said that I wanted to see her in my hotel room for a couple of hours next week. She asked if I would pay her, we agreed on a price in chat, and I might meet her next week. I can't say anything about her service levels, she stated in chat that she "doesn't care about price" and "just loves to fuck"; but that was after she asked for 3, 000 pesos as a first up request! Needless to say I baulked at that figure.
She doesn't like smokers, and from what I can see of her Facebook pics she has a baby already (so maybe she really does just love to fuck!).
Here is her DIA.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/r.qui.html[/url]
I already have an evening date with a lass that WR recommended, but, I'm thinking of meeting this young spinner as a pre dinner snack.
I shall report back if I do venture forth, and please, if you contact her don't mention that you read about it here. I had a girl back out of an appointment last year after some other monger contacted her and said that he'd read on here that she would have sex for money! Try and be discreet and contact her as you would independent of this imformation. [/QUOTE]She's nice, I have seen her. Chatty. Loves being fucked. Happy to hang around and be fucked again
She hasn't had a baby so go for it.
OS
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[QUOTE=Offshore Swell; 1113038]She's nice, I have seen her. Chatty. Loves being fucked. Happy to hang around and be fucked again
She hasn't had a baby so go for it.
OS[/QUOTE]5' 5"? Is she really that tall? Huge for a pinay. She is on line now.
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[QUOTE=Bob Bowie;1113294]5' 5"? Is she really that tall? Huge for a pinay. She is on line now.[/QUOTE]She will be hiding her profile within 24 hours because she will have a few 100 hits on her page and I bet at least one of her suitors tells her where he learned about her, and asks her does she really like to fuck?
Happens every time some DIA girl gets a run here.
No competition from me. 18 year olds are way too young for me. Give me the more experienced ones any day
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1113298]She will be hiding her profile within 24 hours because she will have a few 100 hits on her page and I bet at least one of her suitors tells her where he learned about her, and asks her does she really like to fuck?
Happens every time some DIA girl gets a run here.
No competition from me. 18 year olds are way too young for me. Give me the more experienced ones any day[/QUOTE]There is always a prat / asshole etc who will say something while he types 1 handed trust me on that.
As for liking more experienced I assume you mean old ones RK, the MILFs ;) Because you are so old yourself :D .....with the exception of the peach of course :eek:
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1113388]There is always a prat / asshole etc who will say something while he types 1 handed trust me on that.
As for liking more experienced I assume you mean old ones RK, the MILFs. Because you are so old yourself. . With the exception of the peach of course. [/QUOTE]I will back myself to beat you in a line up WR. More girls will pick me rather than you, unless they are kinky and weird and like nasty stuff then of course you will beat me (and everybody else) hands-down on that LOL.
So when do we get the FR and the accompanying lurid pics mate?
Looking forward to them. I assume you were aiming at middle stump every delivery but I bet you sprayed a few wide of middle and leg. (sorry guys - if you dont know cricket you will not know what I am talking about but I am sure you get the general idea)
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1113421]I will back myself to beat you in a line up WR. More girls will pick me rather than you, unless they are kinky and weird and like nasty stuff then of course you will beat me (and everybody else) hands-down on that LOL.
So when do we get the FR and the accompanying lurid pics mate?
Looking forward to them. I assume you were aiming at middle stump every delivery but I bet you sprayed a few wide of middle and leg. (sorry guys. If you don't know cricket you will not know what I am talking about but I am sure you get the general idea) [/QUOTE]LOL.
Well in any line up I would fix it so the girls are more like Cebu favourite and Bullet Nipples than others. And of course I would incentivise them with 'accessories' so I would be the natural 'normal' choice :eek:
FR? Lurid pictures? I never take those sort of photos RK. ;) Well just for your mucky mind and mainly peach shots.
As for spraying etc well a few do go leg and off as middle stump can be a tad boring while other guards are tighter and less used :p:
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Date In Asia
Are most ladies on the DIA site call girls or good girls? I will be going to the Philippines next month and decided to use another kind of approach, rather than going to the bars to pick up girls.
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[QUOTE=George111;1113915]Are most ladies on the DIA site call girls or good girls?[/QUOTE]Hehe what, you looking for a girl to take to church? Just go to church and you will find good girls.
I believe all the online dating sites have a range of "good" to "hoping for rope a husband" to "looking to do it and thanks for the cab fare ++" to soft pro's. The old timers here may say the pay sites like Cherry Blossoms have more girls looking for husbands, and the free sites like DIA and Tagged filled in more with short-time semi-pro's.
Any way, you will spend more time (but a lot less than if you trolled for girls in the wild) , but maybe (depending on how firm you are about gifts) less money using dating sites compared to bar girls. IMHO though, its more engaging and a better girl friend experience than sitting in bars and drinking all day. Also I feel at more risk for theft, violence, and girl drama in the bar areas.
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Is she for real?
Just interested to know if any member know (biblically or otherwise) this rather tasty girl. Have noticed her rather provocative page on a well known dating site and wondered if she is for real. I think that the photo's are legit.
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[QUOTE=George111;1113915]Are most ladies on the DIA site call girls or good girls? I will be going to the Philippines next month and decided to use another kind of approach, rather than going to the bars to pick up girls.[/QUOTE]Most ladies are not call girls or bargirls. Having said that how will you know which is which? You have to play it by ear after meeting the girl. You cannot decide by the way she behaves in bed. Many normal girls I have met are really good in bed.
Only the person who lives in Phi will find out the girls history. For a casual visitor it matters little. All we are looking for is good sex, company with least amount of damage. Beware that even normal girls are not above asking for money for services rendered.
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Ladyboy or No?
It's got a ladyboy face 4sure. But only an opinion.
Have never met it.
Cheapy
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1114124]Just interested to know if any member know (biblically or otherwise) this rather tasty girl. Have noticed her rather provocative page on a well known dating site and wondered if she is for real. I think that the photo's are legit.[/QUOTE]
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No, but she is a pussy muncher (like us:))
[QUOTE=Cheapy;1114201]It's got a ladyboy face 4sure. But only an opinion.[/QUOTE]If she is then she is the worlds first heterosexual ladyboy:D. For I have since found out that she is a lesbian and is only interested in girls. What a waste!
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Which city?
[QUOTE=George111;1113915]Are most ladies on the DIA site call girls or good girls? I will be going to the Philippines next month and decided to use another kind of approach, rather than going to the bars to pick up girls.[/QUOTE]The DIA demographic varies considerably depending on which city you are searching. In Angeles a high percentage will be bar girls or ex bar girls or soon to be bar girls. In other citiies and especially the provinces its less common for bar girls to sign up to DIA as they are getting a steady stream of contacts through the bar.
In Phils the dividing line between Pro and semi pro and "good girls" is blurry. IN AC, Manila and Cebu a high percentage will be willing to meet up and have sex. Unless the girl is over 30 or has a good job or you have conned her into thinking she is a prospective wife (not good form in my book) then she will probably have some expectation of financial compensation. How much will depend on how far down the road to professionalism she has travelled.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1114351]The DIA demographic varies considerably depending on which city you are searching. In Angeles a high percentage will be bar girls or ex bar girls or soon to be bar girls. In other citiies and especially the provinces its less common for bar girls to sign up to DIA as they are getting a steady stream of contacts through the bar.
In Phils the dividing line between Pro and semi pro and "good girls" is blurry. IN AC, Manila and Cebu a high percentage will be willing to meet up and have sex. Unless the girl is over 30 or has a good job or you have conned her into thinking she is a prospective wife (not good form in my book) then she will probably have some expectation of financial compensation. How much will depend on how far down the road to professionalism she has travelled. [/QUOTE]I agree completely with GL.
I have tried to get some idea of whether there is some common thread running through the DIA profiles and after a fair amount of (serious) analysis I have found that you virtually have to start at square 1 with each individual.
The content of the profiles seems to mean nothing at all UNLESS they are obviously intelligent, have a job, and have written a sensible profile that is unique to them and not just copied it. These latter girls are generally fairly clear in what they want and can spot BS from a distance. As GL says, if they are looking for a serious relationship and you're not, then it is not good form to give them bullshit just to con them. Apart from the fact that it will cost you $$, karma says that it will come back to bite you.
For those girls who have the standard "no games please, no pic-no reply, God-fearing guys only, serious guys only, etc etc" in their profiles, ignore it and send them a reasonable message as a first contact.
My MO if I see one who piques my interest (regardless of what she says in her profile) is to click on "Show Interest" and wait for her to respond. Sometimes I don't even show interest - I just read the profile because I know she will also in time get to read mine.
If she replies in any way after I have seen that she has read my profile, then I know she is worth following up because my profile is very explicit that I want friends only for fun times and that I am not looking for a wife. If they read that and still reply then I disregard their profile and it is "game-on".
I think that there is no rule about money.
GL mentions that some will require financial compensation and he is correct. I have never had anybody ask me for money directly, although a few have asked (in advance) if I could refund them their travel costs because they have borrowed money to travel to meet me.
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"Open minded" seems to give some indication.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1114412]I agree completely with GL.
I have tried to get some idea of whether there is some common thread running through the DIA profiles and after a fair amount of (serious) analysis I have found that you virtually have to start at square 1 with each individual.
The content of the profiles seems to mean nothing at all UNLESS they are obviously intelligent, have a job, and have written a sensible profile that is unique to them and not just copied it. These latter girls are generally fairly clear in what they want and can spot BS from a distance. As GL says, if they are looking for a serious relationship and you're not, then it is not good form to give them bullshit just to con them. Apart from the fact that it will cost you $$, karma says that it will come back to bite you.
For those girls who have the standard "no games please, no pic-no reply, God-fearing guys only, serious guys only, etc etc" in their profiles, ignore it and send them a reasonable message as a first contact.
My MO if I see one who piques my interest (regardless of what she says in her profile) is to click on "Show Interest" and wait for her to respond. Sometimes I don't even show interest. I just read the profile because I know she will also in time get to read mine.
If she replies in any way after I have seen that she has read my profile, then I know she is worth following up because my profile is very explicit that I want friends only for fun times and that I am not looking for a wife. If they read that and still reply then I disregard their profile and it is "game-on".
I think that there is no rule about money.
GL mentions that some will require financial compensation and he is correct. I have never had anybody ask me for money directly, although a few have asked (in advance) if I could refund them their travel costs because they have borrowed money to travel to meet me.[/QUOTE]
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DIA Virgin
I recently arranged a meeting with a 30 yr old lady with a rather frumpy photo on DIA. I only agreed because she sounded kind of desperate and was willing to travel some distance from her home to come to my local mall. I was not expecting a great package so imagine my surprise when a tight little spinner of just my type turned up. Don't get me wrong, she was no blown away beauty but rather the cute 'teacher lady next door that you fantasize screwing' type. I'm sure everybody here can visualize the kind.
I took her to a long lunch after which I asked her what she wanted to do next. She suggested going window shopping and I said that I would rather be hung up by my thumbs. I countered that there was a Eurotel across the road and we could get to know each other better if we took one of their nicely appointed little rooms. She hummed and harred and finally texted me a message (although I was seated opposite her) which said, and I quote from my CP:
'IF I GO WITH U WE WILL NOT FUCK. ITS OK WITH U. DO ITS EMBARRASING? OR JUST OK'
Amazingly she then told me that she was a virgin and had never had anything bigger than a finger inside her fun box. You could have knocked me over with a featherlite.
'A 30 year old 'cute as a button' virgin here with me', 'surely not true', 'Never in a million years'. 'Could I really? ' Such is a cocksmans stream of consciousness.
So to cut a long story short, she joined me in the Eurotel room. I would like to tell you that I could and plowed her virgin furrow but I would be lying. Despite my most valiant attempts to persuade her that she had been holding onto it for 30 years just to give to me, there was no way I could voluntarily divest her of her maidenhead. She loved being licked and came several times to a chorus of 'I'm so wet' and 'I'm so tight' in her sexy, breathy voice, which did absolutely nothing to reduce my libido. I managed a solitary finger inside and ascertained she was 'wet', 'tight' and decidedly 'virgo intacta'. But apart from this, the pleasure was all hers. I received a perfunctory few licks that could optimistically be called a BJ, a covered clit fuck and 2 messy COF / COB shots. Wow, it took me back to the halcyon years of my teens / early twenties.
But it was a quiet afternoon's diversion and all, of course, for free although I did press a little taxi money onto her, for which she was absurdly grateful.
I'm now getting bombarded with text messages, which is likely a testament to my lingual technique but I probably won't see her again unless she is prepared for the next big step.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1114999]I'm now getting bombarded with text messages, which is likely a testament to my lingual technique but I probably won't see her again unless she is prepared for the next big step.[/QUOTE]LOL. And what would that be? Let me guess, a whizz on the mug?
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1114999]'IF I GO WITH U WE WILL NOT FUCK. ITS OK WITH U. DO ITS EMBARRASING? OR JUST OK'
Amazingly she then told me that she was a virgin and had never had anything bigger than a finger inside her fun box. You could have knocked me over with a featherlite.[/QUOTE]Cool story CS. It's always nice to get a girl that is curious and horny. Interesting that she stil a virgin but ended up with a big pervert. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Fredje1961;1114423]"Open minded" seems to give some indication.[/QUOTE]No Fredje.
"Open-minded" is an over-used and frequently copied word in profiles for which most women have absolutely no idea of the meaning.
I have actually sent a message to several women asking what they mean by "open-minded" and what they say never correlates with what we would hope such a term means.
When women on DIA use the term "open-minded" it usually means that their brains have fallen out through the opening LOL
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Where to Meet?
I'm supposed to meet a girl from the Commonwealth area of QC. I will be staying in Manila on Roxas about a km south of the US Embassy. Anybody have local knowledge on a mutually accessible place to meet up? Need help on this one.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1115098]I'm supposed to meet a girl from the Commonwealth area of QC. I will be staying in Manila on Roxas about a km south of the US Embassy. Anybody have local knowledge on a mutually accessible place to meet up? Need help on this one.[/QUOTE]Meet at Robinsons Mall in front of Starbucks at Pedro Gil entrance. But tell her to go inside and meet you inside between Starbucks and the Marks & Spencer store because there are a lot of baklas and other FLs who hang around outside Starbucks near the little water feature. She might feel a bit like a hooker if she waits there.
Anywhere else is too difficult for them to find. Remember to be VERY specific in your details where to meet and what TIME. They are usually late and they have very great difficulty in orientating themselves in geographic space.
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[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1115006]Let me guess, a whizz on the mug?[/QUOTE]In good time, but that's jack shit and you know it:D.
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Oo diba
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1115131]In good time, but that's jack shit and you know it:D.[/QUOTE]My compliments for finding the only 30 year old virgin in the Phils. How does he do it? LOL
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And this is exactly the way in which I loose any illusion after another. Too bad, that's life.
I'll have to try to find another way to identify the really naughty ones.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1115054]No Fredje.
"Open-minded" is an over-used and frequently copied word in profiles for which most women have absolutely no idea of the meaning.
I have actually sent a message to several women asking what they mean by "open-minded" and what they say never correlates with what we would hope such a term means.
When women on DIA use the term "open-minded" it usually means that their brains have fallen out through the opening LOL[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1115054]No Fredje.
"Open-minded" is an over-used and frequently copied word in profiles for which most women have absolutely no idea of the meaning.
I have actually sent a message to several women asking what they mean by "open-minded" and what they say never correlates with what we would hope such a term means.
When women on DIA use the term "open-minded" it usually means that their brains have fallen out through the opening LOL[/QUOTE]Tend to agree RK.
I actually tell them my definition of 'open minded' and I still get a girls wanting to meet me. A few are however somewhat numbed and shocked by my definition which to be fair is honest and what us mongers would consider to be 'mild' :eek:
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1115208]Tend to agree RK.
I actually tell them my definition of 'open minded' and I still get a girls wanting to meet me. A few are however somewhat numbed and shocked by my definition which to be fair is honest and what us mongers would consider to be 'mild'. [/QUOTE]I don't know Roger, I am still trying to figure out how you convince the gals you entertain to be so "open minded", no matter how "mild" it may seem. While our proclivities may not be exactly the same, for the most part I think I would find your "playtime techniques" an enjoyable way to spend time with a lady willing to participate. I just don't seem to have found the right button to push to convince them to jump in and ride along! Heck I get push back when I ask to leave the lights on and wear their stiletoes during the act! Photos seems almost out of reach and, using some of the 3rd entrance toys. Well that is a quixotic dream! Just means I have to "try harder" I guess.
P. S. Thanks again for the info and effort to help!
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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1115224]While our proclivities may not be exactly the same.........[/QUOTE]Proclivities?
That reminds me of a rather intellectual student (sadly not in the Philippines) I once met, and with whom I was trying to advance my cause.
She said "my awareness of your proclivities in the esoteric aspects of sexual behaviour prevents you from such an erotic confrontation".
"I don't get it" I said.
"Precisely" she said.
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[QUOTE=KongKing; 1115253]Proclivities?
That reminds me of a rather intellectual student (sadly not in the Philippines) I once met, and with whom I was trying to advance my cause.
She said "my awareness of your proclivities in the esoteric aspects of sexual behaviour prevents you from such an erotic confrontation".
"I don't get it" I said.
"Precisely" she said. [/QUOTE]For some unknown reason "they" always seem to be one step ahead.
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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1115224]Just means I have to "try harder" I guess.[/QUOTE]I say stuff like: "you want to please me don't you?"."You are special to me, I want to do things I haven't done with anyone else (this week)"."I want a GF who will do anything for me"
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[QUOTE=Jambo;1115294]I say stuff like: "you want to please me don't you?" ... ."I want a GF who will do anything for me"[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, many of the women on the chat sites here think that the answer you are seeking to these questions is being a good cook and keeping the house nice and clean. LOL.
The trick is to find the ones who prefer to keep their men happy by other means.
To Kong King: nice joke mate. Most unlikely to be a narrative used in the Philippines even if English is widely used and understood.
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Mall of Asia
I would suggest to meet at the Mall of Asia, since there are FX and Jeepneys going there directly from QC.
Robinson may not be so familiar for many that don't know the area, while MoA is a place everyone has been to for sure.
MoA is about 5-10 minutes away from your place on Roxas.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1115098]I'm supposed to meet a girl from the Commonwealth area of QC. I will be staying in Manila on Roxas about a km south of the US Embassy. Anybody have local knowledge on a mutually accessible place to meet up? Need help on this one.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Marconista; 1115467]I would suggest to meet at the Mall of Asia, since there are FX and Jeepneys going there directly from QC.
Robinson may not be so familiar for many that don't know the area, while MoA is a place everyone has been to for sure.
MoA is about 5-10 minutes away from your place on Roxas. [/QUOTE]The jeepney from Commonwealth will most likely go past Robinsons on it's way to MOA. And Robinson's is about 5 mins north of where you are in Roxas.
MOA is way too big for successful meeting unless you are very specific about meet points.
I disagree that many girls from north of Manila know MOA. I know many from Caloocan, Valenzuela, Bulacan who have never heard of MOA and never been there.
The advantage of Robinsons is that if she turns out to be not what you expected then you have plenty of other options walking around just waiting for you to say Hi.
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She's certainly got confidence
OK so a couple weeks back I met one young lady. 30 from Cavite. She was small petite and cute and in an earlier life had been a dancer in Japan.
We met, did the normal and still chat ocassionally. Last night was online but invisible, and was amazed when this same seemingly shy lady explained how she wanted to start an embroidery business but was lacking capital. At the end of long YM message she asks if I would lend her 60, 000 pesos as capital, and yes, she would promise to pay me back.
I'm more used to being hit up for P1000 here or there but 60K. I admire but her style. The answers still NO!
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WR has some advantage with his regular visits, but me thinks he's got a few other cards up his sleeve. I'll leave it up to him to elaborate.
As for myself, I've found a few things that USUALLY work for me. One being that I treat her like a princess when I meet her and then assume she's naughty in the bed. Which she most certainly should be considering the circumstances.
Turn the lights off. I hate that too."I'm afraid of the dark might get a laugh." I prefer,"we need to see a way to the toilet".
Photography, get some nice shots before things get naughty. They often get into it, especially if you are a good photographer or have a good camera. Make sure you show them the pics. Although it would be unusual if they don't stop you after every shot to get a look. If they get reluctant, just ask for just a "few more sexy shots". Don't push it.
A few times when I put the camera down they suddenly started posing. Go figure. And if you get some good G or R rated shots, send them to her. They usually don't want the x stuff. I had one gal who begged for more picture the next time I visited Philippines. I've had a few of my pictures show up at Cherry Blossoms, Cebu gals, Filipina Hearts, etc.
As for WR, I think you'll have to figure out his unique charm.
X.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1115224]I don't know Roger, I am still trying to figure out how you convince the gals you entertain to be so "open minded", no matter how "mild" it may seem. While our proclivities may not be exactly the same, for the most part I think I would find your "playtime techniques" an enjoyable way to spend time with a lady willing to participate. I just don't seem to have found the right button to push to convince them to jump in and ride along! Heck I get push back when I ask to leave the lights on and wear their stiletoes during the act! Photos seems almost out of reach and, using some of the 3rd entrance toys. Well that is a quixotic dream! Just means I have to "try harder" I guess.
P. S. Thanks again for the info and effort to help! [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1115711]The jeepney from Commonwealth will most likely go past Robinsons on it's way to MOA. And Robinson's is about 5 mins north of where you are in Roxas.
MOA is way too big for successful meeting unless you are very specific about meet points.
I disagree that many girls from north of Manila know MOA. I know many from Caloocan, Valenzuela, Bulacan who have never heard of MOA and never been there.
The advantage of Robinsons is that if she turns out to be not what you expected then you have plenty of other options walking around just waiting for you to say Hi. [/QUOTE]And a 10 minute walk or 50 php taxi ride from MBC. Sage advice my friend. I will inquire accordingly as to which is more convenient for her.
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[QUOTE=X Man; 1115767]WR has some advantage with his regular visits, but me thinks he's got a few other cards up his sleeve. I'll leave it up to him to elaborate.
As for WR, I think you'll have to figure out his unique charm.
X. [/QUOTE]X.
You know I am just a quiet, unassuming nice guy. And that is what charms them :p
I always accessorise (girls love accessories LOL) and am very straight about my intentions. In more ways than one :D
Seriously I spend time chatting to them and I am very clear how naughty I am and how I can teach them....'Professor Naughty' is what I have been called before. And I try to pique their interest in my mild sexual needs :D Then of course the girls I do know have friends who want to meet the kinky white man friend of their friend so I am happy to oblige as I am a gentleman of course :eek:
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1115744]At the end of long YM message she asks if I would lend her 60, 000 pesos as capital, and yes, she would promise to pay me back.[/QUOTE]But if she promises, you should go ahead and give her the loan. Filipinos always keep their promises, you know. . LOL
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Anyone out there can tell me what is the best way to upload your picture to a dating site? I only have a laptop. I appreciate your feedback. Thank you
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Adding photos
[QUOTE=George111;1115904]Anyone out there can tell me what is the best way to upload your picture to a dating site? I only have a laptop. I appreciate your feedback. Thank you[/QUOTE]On many dating sites there are usually "Edit My Profile," "Manage Photos," and "Browse" buttons. Use the "Browse" to browse for files on your laptop harddrive.
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[QUOTE=X Man;1115767]As for myself, I've found a few things that USUALLY work for me. One being that I treat her like a princess when I meet her and then assume she's naughty in the bed. Which she most certainly should be considering the circumstances.[/QUOTE]Treat a lady like a [email]wh@re[/email], and a [email]wh@re[/email] Like a lady. How very true!
[QUOTE=X Man;1115767]Turn the lights off. I hate that too."I'm afraid of the dark might get a laugh." I prefer,"we need to see a way to the toilet".[/QUOTE]As its yourself, you might always ask her how are we supposed to locate your todger without a light:D.
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[QUOTE=George111;1115904]Anyone out there can tell me what is the best way to upload your picture to a dating site? I only have a laptop. I appreciate your feedback. Thank you[/QUOTE]Which dating site? First save abd name your photos in a folder or on your desktop then follow the instructions on your dating site to upload.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1116037]As its yourself, you might always ask her how are we supposed to locate your todger without a light:D.[/QUOTE]Yes, since we are talking about X Man, it might be a good idea to pack a magnifying glass as well, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy;1115892]But if she promises, you should go ahead and give her the loan. Filipinos always keep their promises, you know. LOL[/QUOTE]Right. This little urban myth sits up there along with the Pope being Catholic and the other promise that I won't sploodge in your face. One good promise deserves another. LOL
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[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1116071]Yes, since we are talking about X Man, it might be a good idea to pack a magnifying glass as well, LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL need more than a magnifying glass to find your last useful contribution to the forum, Jack.
You are ISG's rubber ball no matter how many times Jackson kicks you out on your sorry ass, you come bouncing back under another handle. But why?
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1115867]I am happy to oblige as I am a gentleman of course.[/QUOTE]If Jackson ever initiates awards for selfless giving on this site, WR will surely get a front-row seat and be the beneficiary of many of them.
He travels many miles from far, far away and selflessly gives of his knowledge, day and night, that these darling little Filipina girls might benefit from his wisdom, caring, and deep experience.
In some ways, he could be seen as the Mother Teresa for Filipina innocence.
WR, your selfless charity and pictorial reports are greatly appreciated.
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Gem1388 from Maasin City
Surprising- this one is sensible!
So if you want to find one here, don't start by telling everyone that because it scares most girl off, including me, if you are looking for a long term partner or a wife please do not waste my time, you should be adult enough to know that it takes time, do not rush and one will come when it is time and not before, you will not find one when you are looking here if you rush, this is a dating site, not a marriage site, so don't rush to expect a life long mate with every guy you chat with from here. Just build a network and see where it takes you. Happy chatting
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist; 1116390]Surprising- this one is sensible!
So if you want to find one here, don't start by telling everyone that because it scares most girl off, including me, if you are looking for a long term partner or a wife please do not waste my time, you should be adult enough to know that it takes time, do not rush and one will come when it is time and not before, you will not find one when you are looking here if you rush, this is a dating site, not a marriage site, so don't rush to expect a life long mate with every guy you chat with from here. Just build a network and see where it takes you. Happy chatting[/QUOTE]Haha Cuba if you have been following the discussion here you will remember that there are a few profiles that read so very sensibly such as this one, but when you dig a bit deeper things invariably turn out to be different.
It will turn out that either (a) someone else wrote it for her; or (be) she copied and pasted it from somewhere else. Either way she will have no idea what it means and may not even remember what it says if you start quoting it to her.
There is a (c) of course. It is a valid, home-made, genuine profile and this girl is a very intelligent and sensible girl.
But, if she is steeped in such learning and philosophy, one must ask the question why at 22 she is still living in Maasin, Sthn Leyte which is a long way off the well-trodden tracks of higher learning.
I lean towards explanation (a)
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DIA newbie
Just signed up a couple of days ago, and have had limited success. Likely to line up one girl for a meet and greet. Just have to convince her to not bring a along the sister.
Lots of ladyboys on the site, so beware.
Will also try CB.
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Multi chatting ladies
guys,
just very recently i had 2 multi chatting ladies again in chatting ym.
this makes me very angry always and when i am discovering that my chat partner (which whom i had a chatting appointment of course) is multi chatting, i give one warning and explain that she is the only one i am chatting the same time and earn the same respect from her.
but most of the time the girl in question denies that she is multi chatting (which is a lie most of the time, indeed).
so, dear forum members, how do you deal with such multi chatting grab- girls?
and how can you discriminate between : slow speed of transfer and real multi chatting?
please share your opinion and your experiences.
it is a complete waste of time on my side when i have to wait 5 minutes for every answer because this gal is multi chatting.
and most of the time you also do not get the right answer to your question because the gal is confused with so many open chatting windows at one time.
how shameful.
ram
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[QUOTE=Sinning Desi; 1117575]Just signed up a couple of days ago, and have had limited success. Likely to line up one girl for a meet and greet. Just have to convince her to not bring a along the sister.
Lots of ladyboys on the site, so beware.
Will also try CB. [/QUOTE]You may have left it too late. It took 2-3 weeks on CB & DIA for me to get some dates I was comfortable with, after weeding out the ladyboys, husband hunters and girls who want to meet you just because your a foreigner but will have no intenion of taking it further on a first date.
Got your PM. Sorry for not replying. Will drop you a message later.
Steve
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Yeah, probably. Hope springs eternal, though. At least I'll have head start for the next trip.
[QUOTE=Steve Dubai; 1117591]You may have left it too late. It took 2-3 weeks on CB & DIA for me to get some dates I was comfortable with, after weeding out the ladyboys, husband hunters and girls who want to meet you just because your a foreigner but will have no intenion of taking it further on a first date.
Got your PM. Sorry for not replying. Will drop you a message later.
Steve[/QUOTE]
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[quote=rampana; 1117588]guys,
just very recently i had 2 multi chatting ladies again in chatting ym.
this makes me very angry always and when i am discovering that my chat partner (which whom i had a chatting appointment of course) is multi chatting, i give one warning and explain that she is the only one i am chatting the same time and earn the same respect from her.
but most of the time the girl in question denies that she is multi chatting (which is a lie most of the time, indeed).
so, dear forum members, how do you deal with such multi chatting grab- girls?
and how can you discriminate between : slow speed of transfer and real multi chatting?
please share your opinion and your experiences.
it is a complete waste of time on my side when i have to wait 5 minutes for every answer because this gal is multi chatting.
and most of the time you also do not get the right answer to your question because the gal is confused with so many open chatting windows at one time.
how shameful.
ram[/quote]ram.
not shameful it is to be expected at least by me as i also multi chat :d just i type fast :) yes i make mistakes but cover my tracks fast also. some have made mistakes also with me but i point it out and if things don't improve i drop and leave / forget as plenty more fish in the sea.
expect the girls to mulit chat unless they ask you for cash and you refuse then they will disappear. because you have a time arranged does not mean exclusivity, it means that is the time they can get to cafe etc and log into ym etc.
if they multi chat do the same, as eventually you find the odd gem, but please expect this with all the girls hence they reply with very short sentences and abbreviations rather than a long well thought out reply
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DIA Update
Well, two dates set up now. Let's see how it turns out.
When they bring along rooomates / cousins / sisters, etc. What's the best strategy to get rid of the excess baggage?
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[quote=rampana; 1117588]guys,
just very recently i had 2 multi chatting ladies again in chatting ym.
this makes me very angry always and when i am discovering that my chat partner (which whom i had a chatting appointment of course) is multi chatting, i give one warning and explain that she is the only one i am chatting the same time and earn the same respect from her.
but most of the time the girl in question denies that she is multi chatting (which is a lie most of the time, indeed).
so, dear forum members, how do you deal with such multi chatting grab- girls?
and how can you discriminate between : slow speed of transfer and real multi chatting?
please share your opinion and your experiences.
it is a complete waste of time on my side when i have to wait 5 minutes for every answer because this gal is multi chatting.
and most of the time you also do not get the right answer to your question because the gal is confused with so many open chatting windows at one time.
how shameful.
ram[/quote]i guess it depends on what your "relationship" with the girl is. for example, how long have you been chat mates? have you met her in person? what are your intentions towards the girl. casual one night stand or something a bit more?
i have a regular girl in cebu and she did that to me once. i said : "sorry to disturb you, we chat again when you are not busy." and then signed out. within an hour i had an email from her apologising and professing her undying love for me and she would never do it again. problem sorted.
we need to remember that a lot of these girls are playing a numbers game. they know through experience that although initially their male chat mate will make promises of visiting them. very few do. thus from their perspective. how does she know that you are sincere towards her and that you will visit her? i guess all she is doing is covering her options. like i said earlier. it depends on your "relationship" with her.
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[QUOTE=Sinning Desi; 1117616]Well, two dates set up now. Let's see how it turns out.
When they bring along rooomates / cousins / sisters, etc. What's the best strategy to get rid of the excess baggage? [/QUOTE]There are 3 options:
1. Give them some money to take a jeepney home.
2. Invite them to join in the fun.
3. If you like an audience invite them to watch
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Good advice. I'd love #2, but will settle for #1. Have experienced #3 in the past, when P. Burgos after hours spinner brings along a friend, who just sits there texting, while you bong the hell out of the gal. Weird, but nevertheless.
[QUOTE=Python75; 1117623]There are 3 options:
1. Give them some money to take a jeepney home.
2. Invite them to join in the fun.
3. If you like an audience invite them to watch[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sinning Desi; 1117616]Well, two dates set up now. Let's see how it turns out.
When they bring along rooomates / cousins / sisters, etc. What's the best strategy to get rid of the excess baggage?[/QUOTE]Be very decisive. They tend to respect and follow the advice of a guy who knows what he wants. They live in an airy fairy world where telenovas / TV's give them dating advice (duhh) so when a guy knows what he wants and is firm with them, they back off.
I once met a virgin gal (not any more of course) and for first meeting she bought her 12 year old sister and 10 year odl brother. Mt them, gave them 100 peso each to go get jolllibee and told them there 19 year old sister wold be back at same place in two hours. Course neither of them had a watch but both had cellphones. Sadi older sister was delivered back at right time having seen her first naked white man, and guess what, neither had spent any of the P100 given. Amazing! Lots stories like that but the meaning is, be decisive and be prepared to walk if some girls fat friends insists on tagging along
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[quote=rampana; 1117588]guys,
just very recently i had 2 multi chatting ladies again in chatting ym.
this makes me very angry always and when i am discovering that my chat partner (which whom i had a chatting appointment of course) is multi chatting, i give one warning and explain that she is the only one i am chatting the same time and earn the same respect from her.
but most of the time the girl in question denies that she is multi chatting (which is a lie most of the time, indeed).
so, dear forum members, how do you deal with such multi chatting grab- girls?
and how can you discriminate between : slow speed of transfer and real multi chatting?
please share your opinion and your experiences.
it is a complete waste of time on my side when i have to wait 5 minutes for every answer because this gal is multi chatting.
and most of the time you also do not get the right answer to your question because the gal is confused with so many open chatting windows at one time.
how shameful.
ram[/quote]skip to the chase and tell you wish to see her when you come to cityname, and then just move on. you are the king. do not wait. find new ones to chat with. these multi chatters will fuck you for money normally so no need to waste 5 minutes for one answer. just call it taxi money so they can continue to pretend they are decent girls.
/barba
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[QUOTE=Sinning Desi; 1117616]Well, two dates set up now. Let's see how it turns out.
When they bring along rooomates / cousins / sisters, etc. What's the best strategy to get rid of the excess baggage?[/QUOTE]See them for a quick ice cream. Tell the girl you must meet a guy for a business meeting but would like to see her in 1 hour again at location x. This way you A) get rid of the extras and B) are not and your first date so banging is allowed. Twisted and hypocritical, I know but this is how many of the "can I bring a friend"-girls function.
I find it rare that the tag along will join you to the room, at least in sunny Davao where I go mostly. To achieve this I normally have to be on the night shift and go for karaoke and drinks. At this point anything can, and most likely, will happen.
Had a funny incident last visit to Davao. A preferred supplier wanted to come at 3 in the morning after a night out with her nurse school friends. And she wanted to bring her little petit friend as well. I saw the message and minutes later she knocked on my door. The petit one laid down on the second bed in my hotel room while I undressed the first. As always the first had the Niagara fall in her panties, and I started to stroke the other girls ass and legs. This freaked her out and she pulled the blanket over her head. So I continued with number one and the petit little nurse just laid there and twisted and rubbed her legs in heat. But she refused to join in. Nice to do the first doggy while looking at the second. Innocence is a turn on. She wanted but could not pass the barrier, and the next day she texted me to meet. I do not pay these girls a peso. They just like the attention, excitement and extra inches.
Good luck SD, and do share your findings.
/Barba
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[QUOTE=Python75; 1117619]<SNIP
I have a regular girl in Cebu and she did that to me once. I said : "sorry to disturb you, we chat again when you are not busy." And then signed out. Within an hour I had an email from her apologising and professing her undying love for me and she would never do it again. Problem sorted. [/QUOTE]Exactly my strategy Python with girls that are regular friends and whom I have met before.
If I see them online with webcam I know they are already chatting so I use that same line with them too. Amazing how quickly they get back to you with the weird apologies. It is extraordinary how many girls are always chatting with sisters in Dubai, mothers in the province, uncles in USA etc etc. Silly excuses.
For girls who are just new or casual chat mates, then I am not too fussed about how much they are multi-chatting but I do get pissed off when they tell lies they are not. Even on webcam some girls insist they are chatting to you only but forget I can see them typing away and see them laughing at someone else's jokes.
As I have said before, it is all just a big game so we should just sit back and enjoy it.
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Thanks
All the advice here and in the PM board much appreciated. I'll let you all know how it goes.
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[QUOTE=Rampana; 1117588]Just very recently I had 2 multi chatting ladies again in chatting ym.
This makes me very angry always and when I am discovering that my chat partner (which whom I had a chatting appointment of course) is multi chatting, I give ONE warning and explain that she is the only one I am chatting the same time and earn the same respect from her.
It is a complete waste of time on my side when I have to wait 5 minutes for every answer because this gal is multi chatting.
How shameful. [/QUOTE]Can't understand why you would care if she was chatting with only you or 1000 more people. You two are not married and I assume from the term "chat partner" haven't even met. For all either of you know if it comes down to a real meeting one will stand the other up. So why put all your eggs in one basket? Maybe if you chatted with more people as well you would not care how long it took her to answer. You two probably had nothing really interesting to talk about together anyway. As Barba was saying just put your name in the hat to meet up with her when you get there and let it marinate. Don't get your underwear in a bunch over it.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1117941]Can't understand why you would care if she was chatting with only you or 1000 more people. You two are not married and I assume from the term "chat partner" haven't even met. For all either of you know if it comes down to a real meeting one will stand the other up. So why put all your eggs in one basket? Maybe if you chatted with more people as well you would not care how long it took her to answer. You two probably had nothing really interesting to talk about together anyway. As Barba was saying just put your name in the hat to meet up with her when you get there and let it marinate. Don't get your underwear in a bunch over it.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree. Need to be more realistic Rampana. Why the hell would you expect any kind of 'faithful chat' from one of these girls? You REALLY think she's only interested in talking to or meeting you? She's no doubt got hundreds of men she's talking to and hoping to meet and screw. You sound very naive if that surprises you.
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[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1117951]Totally agree. Need to be more realistic Rampana. Why the hell would you expect any kind of 'faithful chat' from one of these girls? You REALLY think she's only interested in talking to or meeting you? She's no doubt got hundreds of men she's talking to and hoping to meet and screw. You sound very naive if that surprises you.[/QUOTE]Hi guys replying on my question.
Thank you for your suggestions.
My attitude of becoming upset in their multi chattin stems from a time when I still believed in the dream of a "one-to-one" relationship with a Pinay. But this dream has been given up long ago, this chatting attitude remained in me.
But. According your advice. I will cool down in these manners and follow Barba's advice. Just tell them I will txt them after I arrived and then log off.
No need anymore to waste my time.
Ram
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1117883]It is extraordinary how many girls are always chatting with sisters in Dubai, mothers in the province, uncles in USA etc etc. Silly excuses.
As I have said before, it is all just a big game so we should just sit back and enjoy it. [/QUOTE]RK.
If they say sisters / cousins etc in Dubai I ask them where and for their mobile number. Well I am gent and would happily take sister to dinner as long as she is not a fuglie and chubby. I do have standards (well some!)
Barba
You twisted?....surely not :eek: But I do agree that if they bring a third (or fourth) ask them if they want to join in the fun later...I have and can work a treat :)
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Its not just guys who fall for it!
The lonely heart scam: Mother sent £80, 000 to a man she thought was a charming USA soldier. But it was really Nigerian fraudsters.
Read more:
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351954/Mother-conned-80-000-swindlers-posing-American-soldier-internet-dating-site.html#ixzz1CaXd4LxY[/url]
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[QUOTE=Zip Lip;1118265]The lonely heart scam: Mother sent £80, 000 to a man she thought was a charming USA soldier. But it was really Nigerian fraudsters.[/QUOTE]Lots of British women have been caught in these scams, some operated out of Nigeria and some Ghana. Invariably a good looking white American befriends them and spends months grooming them before the trap is sprung. Its amazing how many lonely, gullible women have been caught and sent vast sums of money to these fraudsters. One women sold her house and is now homeless!
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[QUOTE=Zip Lip; 1118265]The lonely heart scam: Mother sent £80, 000 to a man she thought was a charming USA soldier. But it was really Nigerian fraudsters.
Read more:
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351954/Mother-conned-80-000-swindlers-posing-American-soldier-internet-dating-site.html#ixzz1CaXd4LxY[/url][/QUOTE]Hard to feel sympathy for her, sad as her story is. A 47 year old Mother of 3 and she fell for this. She shares the majority of the blame for the position she's placed herself in.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann;1118313]Hard to feel sympathy for her, sad as her story is. A 47 year old Mother of 3 and she fell for this. She shares the majority of the blame for the position she's placed herself in.[/QUOTE]Some time ago when I lived in Malaysia I was chatting on YM with a Filipina and she wanted us both to go on video cam. I said no I'm at work. I can go on cam but not with talking. She then accused me a being a Nigerian scamster. Anyone who has seen me, would know I'm surely and certainly not Nigerian.
I was telling this story to another Filipina I knew there, and she explained that the scams involve a white guy, who goes on cam and pretends to be the one falling in love. He is then used on cam to many many woman, but the guy who calls them is a different guy, the scammer. Many women will spot the fact the guy talking is in fact a black mans voice but some don't.
The scam is often a " I love you and I'm going to send you a gift". Women gets excited. Then someone supposedly from a courier company calls and says that the scammer has sent a package, but before she can collect please deposit usually a few hundred US$ so that immigration " fees" can be processed.
The scammers will then call a day later and say that a bribe has to be paid but the gift is gold and jewellery.
Greed takes over and they continue scamming till they think they have all they can get.
I knew three Filipinas scammed out of a months salary this way.
I hope that one day a scammer gets caught and is strung up by his balls.
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I don't where to post this. So I will try here.
Do any of you fine gents ever wonder who Jackson is. Is he an individual, a group of like minded souls, an overweight fellow revelling in sleeze, a guy who takes his briefcase, pecks said wife on cheek and says I'm going to work honey".
We all sit here and revere his work in setting up this fine board, but who might he be.
Oh and does he need an assistant. ? LOL
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The Dream
Rampana,
If your dream is a one on one relationship with a filipina, do not give up.
There are many of them there, looking for you.
I can attest to that.
But you need to stay away from the women who present as sexy minxes on their profile, look for the quieter ones. Be sincere yourself. Look for sincerity in her.
Be honest, do not ask for sex shows.
They take time and patience, but they are there.
And the payoff is just wonderful.
G
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Lies, Lies and Lies again
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1117883]. With the weird apologies. It is extraordinary how many girls are always chatting with sisters in Dubai, mothers in the province, uncles in USA etc etc. Silly excuses.
For girls who are just new or casual chat mates, then I am not too fussed about how much they are multi-chatting but I do get pissed off when they tell lies they are not. Even on webcam some girls insist they are chatting to you only but forget I can see them typing away and see them laughing at someone else's jokes.
As I have said before, it is all just a big game so we should just sit back and enjoy it. [/QUOTE]Exactly RK,
What pisses me off most is NOT the fact that they are chatting with someone else the same time BUT lying me bluntly into my face with all their lame excuses and telling they are chatting with you only.
Another lame excuse is: "Ohh, I am here only to help my sister with their assignments." or ". To make my assignments."
And when I am confronting them: " And for doing assignments you have to be online ym and also online in DIA, di ba?"
SILENCE AFTERWARDS.
Yes, it is a big game.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1118358]Do any of you fine gents ever wonder who Jackson is. Is he an individual, a group of like minded souls, an overweight fellow revelling in sleeze, a guy who takes his briefcase, pecks said wife on cheek and says I'm going to work honey".
We all sit here and revere his work in setting up this fine board, but who might he be.
Oh and does he need an assistant. ? LOL[/QUOTE]If he needs an assistant FF there would an awfully long queue.
Am told by those who met him (and I know 5 people / mongers who claim they have met him. Mostly reliable mongers long time friends) that he is a nice guy.
But am in the queue before you LOL
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But I enjoy the 'fun' LOL
[QUOTE=Rampana; 1118389]Exactly RK,
What pisses me off most is NOT the fact that they are chatting with someone else the same time BUT lying me bluntly into my face with all their lame excuses and telling they are chatting with you only.
Another lame excuse is: "Ohh, I am here only to help my sister with their assignments." or ". To make my assignments."
And when I am confronting them: " And for doing assignments you have to be online ym and also online in DIA, di ba?"
SILENCE AFTERWARDS.
Yes, it is a big game. [/QUOTE]For sure it is a big game and most of us are playing Rampana. A few who don't get some annoyed but I assume they are speaking to more than 1 guy so I try and get them to focus on me, my kinkiness and have fun, see how far a so called innocent will go with WR in chat on cam etc Make myself more intersting than the guy asking to see their susus, the boring old fart etc (not me I hasten to add LOL)
For me is is fun but then am used to ther games, I play myself and rarely do I chat with one girl only. Call me a naughty boy and I will glady accept the compliment
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FreebieFan, I have met Jackson many times as well as rented his ST apt. in Buenos Aires. If you are interested in knowing more about him you can check out [url]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/[/url] where he often posts. Very intelligent and a nice guy. Dealing with much of the "flora and fauna" who are ISG forum members is not an easy task.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1118356]Greed takes over and they continue scamming till they think they have all they can get..[/QUOTE]Yes but greed is what turns many people into victims by believing that they can get something for nothing or things are as easy as someone is telling them they are.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1118356]I hope that one day a scammer gets caught and is strung up by his balls.[/QUOTE]For every one that gets caught there will be many more standing by to take over and despite all the warnings and pleas to the public there will be other suckers waiting in the queue to get taken.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1118358]Do any of you fine gents ever wonder who Jackson is. Is he an individual, a group of like minded souls, an overweight fellow revelling in sleeze, a guy who takes his briefcase, pecks said wife on cheek and says I'm going to work honey".
We all sit here and revere his work in setting up this fine board, but who might he be.
Oh and does he need an assistant. ? LOL[/QUOTE]Jackson does indeed exist, I 1st met him about 7 years ago in bsas. We have enjoyed (I think) each others company at boxing matches, Rolling Stone concerts, meals and many other monger get togethers.
Jackson is like myself a large guy over weight who enjoys life and enjoys women. He is very intelligent, well spoken on numerous subjects, but the thing that you come away with when you 1st meet him is how loud he is. But a real nice guy.
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I got tired of YM. It was very irritating to be online doing anything other than chatting, and have some Filipina "buzzing" me over and over again until I would reply to her. Granted, I probably did this to myself. I am not even sure how many contacts I have on my list anymore. At one point, I was simply accepting add requests from anybody. I realized how much of a mistake this was when many of the messages were "Do you want to have some fun?" or "I'm American / British living in Ghana." I tried simply setting my status as "invisible" at the program startup. However, I have since learned about programs available for seeing when a person is logged in, but invisible. It is even more irritating to get buzzed when I am "invisible."
I have tried, in the past, to carry on chat conversations with multiple girls before. And, even though I can tell that they are also involved in multiple conversations, they profess to be chatting with only me, or get irritated that I am chatting with others. I personally get tired of the multiple chat windows, with each girl almost demanding my immediate attention to her message. I know there are some that are truly chatting with me only (at that moment). But I also know that these girls would not be online, if they were not trying to chat with other guys as well.
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Whats the programe to see others that are invisable that are on line?
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[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1118614]What is the programe.[/QUOTE]You can try IMvisible or ydetector.
A simple google search will identify quite a few programmes.
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[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1118614]What is the programe.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.ydetector.com/[/url]
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Yahoo Messenger
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1118611]I got tired of YM. It was very irritating to be online doing anything other than chatting, and have some Filipina "buzzing" me over and over again until I would reply to her. Granted, I probably did this to myself. I am not even sure how many contacts I have on my list anymore. At one point, I was simply accepting add requests from anybody. I realized how much of a mistake this was when many of the messages were "Do you want to have some fun?" or "I'm American / British living in Ghana." I tried simply setting my status as "invisible" at the program startup. However, I have since learned about programs available for seeing when a person is logged in, but invisible. It is even more irritating to get buzzed when I am "invisible."[/QUOTE]Your problem can also be that even though you log in as 'invisible', Yahoo automatically signs you in to all their websites sometimes including various chat rooms. You can change that in your preference settings. Also, you can tell if someone on your YM list is online, even though invisible, through your yahoo mail address book.
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He is not the man behind the curtain!
[QUOTE=Flexible Horn; 1118581]Jackson does indeed exist, I 1st met him about 7 years ago in bsas. We have enjoyed (I think) each others company at boxing matches, Rolling Stone concerts, meals and many other monger get togethers.
Jackson is like myself a large guy over weight who enjoys life and enjoys women. He is very intelligent, well spoken on numerous subjects, but the thing that you come away with when you 1st meet him is how loud he is. But a real nice guy. [/QUOTE]Freebie,
I like Flexible, have spent a fair amount of time in the company of Jackson. I actually think we mave have been at a few of the same functions. I spent most of the years 2003-2008 traveling to Buenos Aires where Sir Jackson makes his home.
I have attended Thanksgiving dinners in his "home" and spent a few nights chasing some of the finest examples of femininity in the world (IMHO) , as his wingman as well as more than a few other mongers.
While he does like to enjoy the ladies, he is not also without a heart, as he and some of the other expats in BsAs regularly make donations to local food banks and toy drives for kids at the holidays. I suspect in many ways he is "all of us", he just happens to own this website.
The thing I have found about many of the more prolific participants on this board, is that deep down most of them really like women, and enjoy the company of a lady. This hobby allows them the opportunity to do just that in a very intimate way. I have also found that most are very generous with time and information if asked the right way.
And finally, I think many would be surprised at just how generous they are with the girls that truly need the assistance. At least that is my experience. Sorry if I went off on a tangent.
Sky
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[QUOTE=Rampana; 1118030]Hi guys replying on my question.
Thank you for your suggestions.
My attitude of becoming upset in their multi chattin stems from a time when I still believed in the dream of a "one-to-one" relationship with a Pinay. But this dream has been given up long ago, this chatting attitude remained in me.
But. According your advice. I will cool down in these manners and follow Barba's advice. Just tell them I will txt them after I arrived and then log off.
No need anymore to waste my time.
Ram[/QUOTE]Brother, your dream of a "one-to-one" relationship with a Pinay is not unrealistic, there are definitely countless adorable women who would be interested and remain faithful to you. But it's very unlikely you'll find them on any of the dating sites we banter about on this forum, nor in Yahoo chat rooms. I suggest a trip to the Phils to do some searching if I were you. Take a week or two for your next vacation and just spend a week here. Approach who you like the looks of and see what happens. I am in Cebu City right now and I every place I go I get knowing looks and smiles from shop girls, office girls, nurses, students, etc etc. And I'm no George Clooney, so it's not a matter of me being some super gwapo. Don't give up your dream mate. I think you just need to be here to make it happen.
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[QUOTE=Gangles; 1118379]Rampana,
If your dream is a one on one relationship with a filipina, do not give up.
There are many of them there, looking for you.
I can attest to that.
But you need to stay away from the women who present as sexy minxes on their profile, look for the quieter ones. Be sincere yourself. Look for sincerity in her.
Be honest, do not ask for sex shows.
They take time and patience, but they are there.
And the payoff is just wonderful.
G[/QUOTE]Hi Gangles and also GG,
Thank you for your nice responses and encouragements.
It is true, I gave up after what happen to me in 2 marriages with pinay.
But I hope I can find back my trust that there is still some good girls out there.
Ram
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Juggling DIA dates
I am planning on travelling to phils to meet some DIA ladies.
How do I structure my time to meet 2 or more from the one city. Tried to be honest and told some before that they were not the only lady I planned to meet in that city and their angry reaction to my honesty was crazy to say the least.
Perhaps that shows my inexperience in regard to pinay women.
I understand that I should meet them on neutral ground away from my hotel but what is a good stratagy for meeting more than one date per city.
I suppose I am asking for some basic rules to follow when doing the dating thing in the philipines.
Grateful for any advice.
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Bless them
Wandering through the realms of DIA you come across some real gems, and I'm really not saying this to put these sweet gals down. Its just their turn of phrase can be interesting.
Ms Chen Davao says she " wants to meet man who are not idiot.
Jeralden also from Davao says she's young hot gorgeous, and tall. She's 5ft 2.
Dianarose says she looking " man tuelove"
RN from CDO wants " man more than my match "
Jovy from cebu wants "white foreigner 40- 60 senser " (not many white locals honey!)
Fhate from QC " I have friends but I love to spend more time with my laptop than with them "
And Lady BBA from Davao says " those who want me then take me "
I can't find it but there was a great quote from a gal today who said she wanted sincere guy, but it was ok if he visited prostitutes as long as he told her afterwards.
DIA makes great reading!
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[QUOTE=Teamsatan;1121033]How do I structure my time to meet 2 or more from the one city. Tried to be honest and told some before that they were not the only lady I planned to meet in that city and their angry reaction to my honesty was crazy to say the least.[/quote]If they are jealous it means they like you. Just say "I have several ladies I am communicating with but I would like to meet you first" that will be fine with them.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1121057]Wandering through the realms of DIA you come across some real gems, and I'm really not saying this to put these sweet gals down. Its just their turn of phrase can be interesting.
Ms Chen Davao says she " wants to meet man who are not idiot.
Jeralden also from Davao says she's young hot gorgeous, and tall. She's 5ft 2.
Dianarose says she looking " man tuelove"
RN from CDO wants " man more than my match "
Jovy from cebu wants "white foreigner 40- 60 senser " (not many white locals honey!)
Fhate from QC " I have friends but I love to spend more time with my laptop than with them "
And Lady BBA from Davao says " those who want me then take me "
I can't find it but there was a great quote from a gal today who said she wanted sincere guy, but it was ok if he visited prostitutes as long as he told her afterwards.
DIA makes great reading![/QUOTE]And to add to my own message, saw one girl today from a southern city who said she wanted the normal one who would love her till the day she passed, all the normal soulmate crap, but added, QUOTE " I hope he has a small weiner". Her words. Amazing.
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Unusual question part I . Puffy Nipples
I have a particular lust for girls with puffy nipples.
While the Phillipines photo thread does not show much in this way, I was wondering whether any fellow members might have come across any such ladies in PI that they would be gracious enough to share details.
It would make my day, or better still,"holiday".
Part II will post in travel plans & announcements, concerns whether anybody in Cebu later this month wants to team up to find girl for DP.
Best Regards.
OS
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[QUOTE=Teamsatan; 1121033]I am planning on travelling to phils to meet some DIA ladies.
How do I structure my time to meet 2 or more from the one city. Tried to be honest and told some before that they were not the only lady I planned to meet in that city and their angry reaction to my honesty was crazy to say the least.
Perhaps that shows my inexperience in regard to pinay women.
I understand that I should meet them on neutral ground away from my hotel but what is a good stratagy for meeting more than one date per city.
I suppose I am asking for some basic rules to follow when doing the dating thing in the philipines.
Grateful for any advice.[/QUOTE]You lie lie and then lie again.
You tell them (after you shagged them) that Immigration needs to see you, that an old business partner is in town, that you need to find a doc for your heart medicine, that you are meeting a real estate agent to see a condo. Whatever it is, find a reason to leave the girl so you can go to the next.
Don't answer her endless stream of tests when she says " where are you 100 times (if she doesn't text you means she didn't really like you!)
Be confident, look her in the eye tell your story, give her a kiss, offer to give her some " taxi money" and walk on and don't look back. That Sir, I how we play the multiple game.
And if you do it nicely and believably, you can go back for seconds later if needed.
Millions of people live in every city, so the chances of being seen are slim. However if a girl decides to camp out in your hotel lobby, pay your bill, find the back door, and change hotels.
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[QUOTE=Teamsatan; 1121033]I am planning on travelling to phils to meet some DIA ladies.
How do I structure my time to meet 2 or more from the one city. Tried to be honest and told some before that they were not the only lady I planned to meet in that city and their angry reaction to my honesty was crazy to say the least.
Perhaps that shows my inexperience in regard to pinay women.
I understand that I should meet them on neutral ground away from my hotel but what is a good stratagy for meeting more than one date per city.
I suppose I am asking for some basic rules to follow when doing the dating thing in the philipines.
Grateful for any advice.[/QUOTE]Tell them before you meet that you are there for business and your on call. When you meet make sure you remind them that your boss is in town and he may call you or stop by. If you don't click with a particular girl then tell them you just got a text or email from your boss and need to get to work asap. No girl really wants to hear the truth that your going to meet multiple women as it will make them feel cheap and lose face. There is no harm in fibbing a little to save face.
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Multiple Dates
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1121409]You lie lie and then lie again.
You tell them (after you shagged them) that Immigration needs to see you, that an old business partner is in town, that you need to find a doc for your heart medicine, that you are meeting a real estate agent to see a condo. Whatever it is, find a reason to leave the girl so you can go to the next.
Don't answer her endless stream of tests when she says " where are you 100 times (if she doesn't text you means she didn't really like you!)
Be confident, look her in the eye tell your story, give her a kiss, offer to give her some " taxi money" and walk on and don't look back. That Sir, I how we play the multiple game.
And if you do it nicely and believably, you can go back for seconds later if needed.
Millions of people live in every city, so the chances of being seen are slim. However if a girl decides to camp out in your hotel lobby, pay your bill, find the back door, and change hotels. [/QUOTE]We all have our different approaches to this issue. Partly it will depend on the story that you have told them in the first place. Some guys will tell many girls that they are assiduously searching for Miss Right. My personal preference is simply to tell the truth. More often than not this leads to the girls meeting up in my room, sometimes to threesomes and moresomes and often with the girls becoming best friends. I'm sure this leads to a lower hit rate than the guys who are creating the impression that they are looking for a wife but I do well enough to keep me busy and just feel more comfortable if no lies are involved.
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There is just too many nuggets in one profile
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1121057]Wandering through the realms of DIA you come across some real gems, and I'm really not saying this to put these sweet gals down. Its just their turn of phrase can be interesting.
Ms Chen Davao says she " wants to meet man who are not idiot.
Jeralden also from Davao says she's young hot gorgeous, and tall. She's 5ft 2.
Dianarose says she looking " man tuelove"
RN from CDO wants " man more than my match "
Jovy from cebu wants "white foreigner 40- 60 senser " (not many white locals honey!)
Fhate from QC " I have friends but I love to spend more time with my laptop than with them "
And Lady BBA from Davao says " those who want me then take me "
I can't find it but there was a great quote from a gal today who said she wanted sincere guy, but it was ok if he visited prostitutes as long as he told her afterwards.
DIA makes great reading! [/QUOTE]"if I believe"in miracle iknow that its its happening to me!
I'm marie! Ve being submissive but ilove being dominant also. With ballgag, drolling having sex w8 tight.
I'm 20 single mom. Working in a bar! Bfor. But I stop now. But I still had kinky doing just trying to make my own website I really love my stuff. I hand handcuff. Rope, ballgag, ringgag, and ofcourse sexydress, highheels, suspenders. And ofcourse stocking! Ilove being feminen. I have 1 child cute baby boy I'm a bread winner in my family oldest sister have 14brother and sister. But happy family and I'm bless because all pf my sister and brother still studying I don't want to be like me bfor that they can experience hard life like to work in a bar. Thats why I'm working for them. To sacrifice my family ilove my family lots of experience even you compare me. To you! Ibelieve to my self especially the GOD MY AMBITION IS TO BE AN ARCHITECT. OR lawyer I'm not smart but thats the thing iwant. Iborn in bagiuo city its called here the cold place here in phillpines have step fther sicne I'm baby inever see my real father. Thats why iknow what is its hard to have a broken family but you can't say broken family mine because since I'm baby I have step father that stand the responsibilty. To me, I'm the person that much believe the facts than your saying than your word so much better you didn't promise me if you can't handle your promise! I'm.
Simply. But rock, easy going person. Love to travel and taking picture cooking, and drowing, taking a picture writing poem, I'm a funny. Easy going person and openminded but I have tooo split personalty some times moody sometimes jolly. Ilove to dance! I want honest, and down to earth ilove dominant but romantic. Ilove to tight. Ilove bondage espeacially wen having sex yup weirdo. But who care! S get real ryt all person have kind differnt way that like! Same but in a different way! Mybe I'm nauthgy for you but imnot. I'm honest and loyal if ilove some one. My dream is to have married some day! I want seroius relationship! But I'm here in this site not to find some sex or relation I want nice friend. Only! Or yes mybe someday. We don't know what is happen! If you want to know me don't bola. Bola me. Because iknow foreigns LOL. Takecare!
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Brilliant!
Now, there's something else that struck me: check out how many girls are saleslady, but with a picture that has clearly been made in some decent hotel. I think JustineL is a good example (and those boobs.)
[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1121479]"if I believe"in miracle iknow that its its happening to me!
I'm marie! Ve being submissive but ilove being dominant also. With ballgag, drolling having sex w8 tight.
I'm 20 single mom. Working in a bar! Bfor. But I stop now. But I still had kinky doing just trying to make my own website I really love my stuff. I hand handcuff. Rope, ballgag, ringgag, and ofcourse sexydress, highheels, suspenders. And ofcourse stocking! Ilove being feminen. I have 1 child cute baby boy I'm a bread winner in my family oldest sister have 14brother and sister. But happy family and I'm bless because all pf my sister and brother still studying I don't want to be like me bfor that they can experience hard life like to work in a bar. Thats why I'm working for them. To sacrifice my family ilove my family lots of experience even you compare me. To you! Ibelieve to my self especially the GOD MY AMBITION IS TO BE AN ARCHITECT. OR lawyer I'm not smart but thats the thing iwant. Iborn in bagiuo city its called here the cold place here in phillpines have step fther sicne I'm baby inever see my real father. Thats why iknow what is its hard to have a broken family but you can't say broken family mine because since I'm baby I have step father that stand the responsibilty. To me, I'm the person that much believe the facts than your saying than your word so much better you didn't promise me if you can't handle your promise! I'm.
Simply. But rock, easy going person. Love to travel and taking picture cooking, and drowing, taking a picture writing poem, I'm a funny. Easy going person and openminded but I have tooo split personalty some times moody sometimes jolly. Ilove to dance! I want honest, and down to earth ilove dominant but romantic. Ilove to tight. Ilove bondage espeacially wen having sex yup weirdo. But who care! S get real ryt all person have kind differnt way that like! Same but in a different way! Mybe I'm nauthgy for you but imnot. I'm honest and loyal if ilove some one. My dream is to have married some day! I want seroius relationship! But I'm here in this site not to find some sex or relation I want nice friend. Only! Or yes mybe someday. We don't know what is happen! If you want to know me don't bola. Bola me. Because iknow foreigns LOL. Takecare! [/QUOTE]
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DIA bust
So, after logging on to DIA prior to my last trip, nothing happened. According to Steve Dubai, likely due to my starting the process too close to the arrival date. I didn't have time to establish a "relationship" before having to pull the trigger on a meeting, and that may spooked the girls. Some observations, most of which will not be news to experienced DIA trollers:
1. Watch out for ladyboys. I look at girl heights and faces to see if there may be any issue. Some are up front, some not.
2. If another girl states in the profile that she is "simple", I'll assume she's a simpleton.
3. There are some pros and semi-pros operating on DIA.
4. Manila / Makati girls are usually older, better educated, less desperate and more suspicious.
5. You will get more "hits" on your profile from girls outside the NCR (National Capital Region)
6. Lots of single girls with kids, even at a very young age.
I'll continue on DIA and make sure my planning is several weeks out. Since I don't go outside Manila, my choices are limited, and I think the work is a bit harder than for the more gullible girls in the provinces.
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[QUOTE=Fredje1961; 1121568]Brilliant!
Now, there's something else that struck me: check out how many girls are saleslady, but with a picture that has clearly been made in some decent hotel. I think JustineL is a good example (and those boobs.) [/QUOTE]The reason the sweet saleslady had her pic taken in a hotel is some guy here hit on her in her department store or here in DIA, took his posterity pic of her, and she posted it here because it was better than the pic she took in her tin shack. I currently have 6 "friends of mine" on my YM all with pics that I took of them in various hotels.
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[QUOTE=Sinning Desi; 1121703]S.
I'll continue on DIA and make sure my planning is several weeks out. Since I don't go outside Manila, my choices are limited, and I think the work is a bit harder than for the more gullible girls in the provinces.[/QUOTE]Highly possible to arrange different girls on different nights all within the Manila / Makati / Taguig circuit. Keep at it.
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Exactly, even though her profile seems to tell us she's only interested in marriage.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1121769]The reason the sweet saleslady had her pic taken in a hotel is some guy here hit on her in her department store or here in DIA, took his posterity pic of her, and she posted it here because it was better than the pic she took in her tin shack. I currently have 6 "friends of mine" on my YM all with pics that I took of them in various hotels.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1121769]The reason the sweet saleslady had her pic taken in a hotel is some guy here hit on her in her department store or here in DIA, took his posterity pic of her, and she posted it here because it was better than the pic she took in her tin shack. I currently have 6 "friends of mine" on my YM all with pics that I took of them in various hotels.[/QUOTE]We gather that LOL, the lesson should be she is lot less work then most.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1121770]Highly possible to arrange different girls on different nights all within the Manila / Makati / Taguig circuit. Keep at it.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree. Once you get the hang of wooing office girls through DIA and FC, Manila can be a bloodbath. Stay in a nice hotel in Makati, dress nice, and say that you're looking for a gf.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1121769]The reason the sweet saleslady had her pic taken in a hotel is some guy here hit on her in her department store or here in DIA, took his posterity pic of her, and she posted it here because it was better than the pic she took in her tin shack. I currently have 6 "friends of mine" on my YM all with pics that I took of them in various hotels.[/QUOTE]I ran across this DIA girl who was showing part of her nipple in her photo. After chatting with her I asked her about it and she was surprised that her nipple was showing.
Anyone else have similar photos or expieriences to share?
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I know this is old news to many of you but thought I'd share this message I received a few days ago on a chat site from someone who said he was scammed out of $40, 000 USD. I'll never get why people keep sending money to girls they barely know but for those of you thinking of doing it, consider his plight below.
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SCAM WARNING by no means ever send any money to the user on your list malou she's a scammer and got me for over 40, 000 us dollars and is under investigations by westen union and the us embassy for internet and visa fraud
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Scam Inc
In case you have any doubt Here is a message from a penpal A young Filipina.
Anyway, I understand what you mean, because I've been working here in net cafe about 4 years, I observe and I know some chatters or many of chatters girls here was chatting for money, some of them have husband and children already but they make believe foriegners like you that they don't have husband, but the truth is also their husband know what their wives do. And its so sad for me because I know money is hard to find, and they just ask it from you and some other foriegners, and I know its not good, but I'm sorry for that we have nothing to do with it maybe there are people like that, they just think of theirselves, and they don't care about other people whom they make fool
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[QUOTE=Radoboy; 1122717]In case you have any doubt Here is a message from a penpal A young Filipina.
Anyway, I understand what you mean, because I've been working here in net cafe about 4 years, I observe and I know some chatters or many of chatters girls here was chatting for money, some of them have husband and children already but they make believe foriegners like you that they don't have husband, but the truth is also their husband know what their wives do. And its so sad for me because I know money is hard to find, and they just ask it from you and some other foriegners, and I know its not good, but I'm sorry for that we have nothing to do with it maybe there are people like that, they just think of theirselves, and they don't care about other people whom they make fool[/QUOTE]I have had similar stories told to me Radoboy but somehow I don't blame the women.
They are taking advantage of guys' stupidity and are just cashing in on an opportunity.
I have a friend who works in Western Union in Northern Luzon and she laughs at how so many girls come in regularly to collect money. She told me of one girl that has sponsors in Japan, Britain and Australia, and all of them she met on a dating site.
ANYONE who sends ANY money of any kind to a person that he has not PERSONALLY met is a fool and deserves to be fleeced.
I am sad that some guys are so lonely or so easily seduced by the "idea" of chatting with a sexy and pretty young woman on the other side of the world that they go to the next step of sending them cold cash.
I have so many stories I can tell of guys losing money this way, and very very rarely does it turn out to be a positive experience.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1122782]I have so many stories I can tell of guys losing money this way, and very very rarely does it turn out to be a positive experience.[/QUOTE]I understand and share your sentiments, Red Kilt.
On the other hand, I have a very good friend in Thailand who has quite pleasing online relationships with a couple blokes, one Belgian, one American, who regularly send her money.
They do this simply because they have genuinely established a caring relationship with my friend and have some sympathy for her dire financial situation. In both cases, they can afford it and genuinely derive some pleasure from giving to her.
I also believe neither is under any illusion about what the relationship is. In one sense, you might say they are giving to a very personal charity. She deceives them not, and they expect nothing more than the warm feeling in their hearts they derive from helping this very sweet girl.
I was recently in Cambodia and felt amazing warmth in my heart to give money to some very old, poor women begging on the street. In a way, somewhat the same motivation and feelings.
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I'm with GL on this one
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1121475]We all have our different approaches to this issue. Partly it will depend on the story that you have told them in the first place. Some guys will tell many girls that they are assiduously searching for Miss Right. My personal preference is simply to tell the truth. More often than not this leads to the girls meeting up in my room, sometimes to threesomes and moresomes and often with the girls becoming best friends. I'm sure this leads to a lower hit rate than the guys who are creating the impression that they are looking for a wife but I do well enough to keep me busy and just feel more comfortable if no lies are involved.[/QUOTE]My dating profile is 'bad-boy'. It literally says,"looking for fun only, don't bother me with relationship stuff". I only turn it on about 3 weeks before I travel there (too many constant hits). I get tons of hits from the cities and the province. The conversations are short, the girls get it right away:
Girl: I want meet you when your here.
Me: sure. You understand its just for fun in my hotel ya?
Girl: yes. Here is my phone +63xxxxxxxxx, you txt me when your here I come on your hotel.
Thats it folks. That's all it takes to meet them. I always meet them in a public place for coffee or a drink. Its few and far between the ones who don't show up once I'm in town. In all my years, only one girl showed up at the mall (with a friend) , had coffee with me, then she decided not to go to the hotel with me."We go now." Later she would txt and ask if she could come to the hotel, but it was too late. When she left from the mall I just txt a different girl.
It gets even better. Many will want a repeat performance the next day. If I say no to that, many of those will offer a friend, cousin, niece, sister, or aunt. That bad-boy profile involves a lot less time than 'Mr. Right', and weeds out the relationship crap.
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[QUOTE=Polyorchid; 1122858]. . . . . .
I was recently in Cambodia and felt amazing warmth in my heart to give money to some very old, poor women begging on the street. In a way, somewhat the same motivation and feelings. [/QUOTE]I agree wholeheartedly Poly.
I have given away quite a lot to deserving cases for whom the bona fides are well-established, and I agree it gives one a warm and fuzzy feeling.
My specific point was directed to the guys who send money to women they have NOT met and for whom they have no idea of the "business" these women are engaged in.
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Dia
Hi, what is DIA? Is it similar to tagged. Com? I will be travelling to Bangkok and Pattaya next week, unfortunately I only start up using tagged. Com.
[QUOTE=Sinning Desi; 1121703]So, after logging on to DIA prior to my last trip, nothing happened. According to Steve Dubai, likely due to my starting the process too close to the arrival date. I didn't have time to establish a "relationship" before having to pull the trigger on a meeting, and that may spooked the girls. Some observations, most of which will not be news to experienced DIA trollers:
1. Watch out for ladyboys. I look at girl heights and faces to see if there may be any issue. Some are up front, some not.
2. If another girl states in the profile that she is "simple", I'll assume she's a simpleton.
3. There are some pros and semi-pros operating on DIA.
4. Manila / Makati girls are usually older, better educated, less desperate and more suspicious.
5. You will get more "hits" on your profile from girls outside the NCR (National Capital Region)
6. Lots of single girls with kids, even at a very young age.
I'll continue on DIA and make sure my planning is several weeks out. Since I don't go outside Manila, my choices are limited, and I think the work is a bit harder than for the more gullible girls in the provinces. [/QUOTE]
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[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Run Mann;1122638]SCAM WARNING by no means ever send any money to the user on your list malou she's a scammer and got me for over 40, 000 us dollars and is under investigations by westen union and the us embassy for internet and visa fraud[/QUOTE]This is bullshit. How can she be under investigation for fraud? Did she tell him she needed the money for the hospital instead of the new car she really bought with it? Did she promise to send goods in return for the money? The fact is that you send and receive money on your own accord. It is neither Western Union's nor the US Embassy's business for what purpose money is being sent, the same as it is not an airline's business why you are going to location XYZ. Their job is to facilitate your transaction, not to meddle in your business nor protect the weak, overzealous, and horny from scammers.
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No memory whatsoever
From the "Filipinas have the attention span of a goldfish" department. Here comes a fine chatsite conversation:
Nhiz wrote: 16 hrs. 10 mins ago. HAlo
FastBuckArtist wrote: 16 hrs. 8 mins ago. Good Morning, young woman!
Nhiz wrote: 14 hrs. 15 mins ago. Hallo how are you? .?s
FastBuckArtist wrote: 14 hrs. 12 mins ago. I am having a fine weekend thank you. How is your search here?
Nhiz wrote: 12 hrs. 6 mins ago. Hallo
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No comments needed!
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Westcoast1 "bad boy"
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1122879]My dating profile is 'bad-boy'. It literally says,"looking for fun only, don't bother me with relationship stuff". I only turn it on about 3 weeks before I travel there (too many constant hits). I get tons of hits from the cities and the province. The conversations are short, the girls get it right away:
Girl: I want meet you when your here.
Me: sure. You understand its just for fun in my hotel ya?
Girl: yes. Here is my phone +63xxxxxxxxx, you txt me when your here I come on your hotel.
Thats it folks. That's all it takes to meet them. I always meet them in a public place for coffee or a drink. Its few and far between the ones who don't show up once I'm in town. In all my years, only one girl showed up at the mall (with a friend) , had coffee with me, then she decided not to go to the hotel with me."We go now." Later she would txt and ask if she could come to the hotel, but it was too late. When she left from the mall I just txt a different girl.
It gets even better. Many will want a repeat performance the next day. If I say no to that, many of those will offer a friend, cousin, niece, sister, or aunt. That bad-boy profile involves a lot less time than 'Mr. Right', and weeds out the relationship crap. [/QUOTE]Interesting. I have never made a DIA profile but am thinking about it now. Do you have a picture for your profile and if so does it show your face?
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[QUOTE=Edward M;1123178]Interesting. I have never made a DIA profile but am thinking about it now. Do you have a picture for your profile and if so does it show your face?[/QUOTE]Of course. Would you talk to a person who does not have a picture? What good is a picture is it doesn't show your face? Same goes for the opposite sex. They need to see who they are talking to or trying to meet as much as you do.
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Duh
Sorry FastBuck, but I don't get it.
An anoymous internet friend doesn't remember you about four hours later.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1123159]From the "Filipinas have the attention span of a goldfish" department. Here comes a fine chatsite conversation:
Nhiz wrote: 16 hrs. 10 mins ago. HAlo
FastBuckArtist wrote: 16 hrs. 8 mins ago. Good Morning, young woman!
Nhiz wrote: 14 hrs. 15 mins ago. Hallo how are you? ? S
FastBuckArtist wrote: 14 hrs. 12 mins ago. I am having a fine weekend thank you. How is your search here?
Nhiz wrote: 12 hrs. 6 mins ago. Hallo
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No comments needed! [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1123187]Of course. Would you talk to a person who does not have a picture? What good is a picture is it doesn't show your face? Same goes for the opposite sex. They need to see who they are talking to or trying to meet as much as you do.[/QUOTE]Well I can disagree Mr E.
I have had profiles on 2 different sites for 3 years now, and never posted a pic.
I have all the responses I can handle and I explain why I don't have a picture, and those who respond to me appreciate it and comment on it.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1123111]This is bullshit. How can she be under investigation for fraud? Did she tell him she needed the money for the hospital instead of the new car she really bought with it? Did she promise to send goods in return for the money? The fact is that you send and receive money on your own accord. It is neither Western Union's nor the US Embassy's business for what purpose money is being sent, the same as it is not an airline's business why you are going to location XYZ. Their job is to facilitate your transaction, not to meddle in your business nor protect the weak, overzealous, and horny from scammers.[/QUOTE]True, but the fact that he sent her 40G is no BS. He'll never get his money back and no authority or agency anywhere will likely touch her. I suspect she's blown all that money anyway and in many ways she was giving him many clues along the way that should have given him pause but despite the red flags he continued to send her money anyway.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann;1123239]True, but the fact that he sent her 40G is no BS. He'll never get his money back and no authority or agency anywhere will likely touch her. I suspect she's blown all that money anyway and in many ways she was giving him many clues along the way that should have given him pause but despite the red flags he continued to send her money anyway.[/QUOTE]A fool and his money. A girl once told me that her brother who was in the Navy got taken for 5G courtesy of the Nigerian scam. But 40G? And how could she have possibly blown that in PI? Here in Thailand that would pay my rent for 272 months or 22 and a half years.
I guess it's a little different for me because I've been on the internet since there was an internet to be on and I'm so addicted to women that it is hard to me to commit to just one, especially financially. I have an extremely short attention span when it comes to women. I guess those Pinays have their ways though. My uncle left my aunt for a Pinay that he knew through the internet and had never met in person. He kept bragging to me how she called him daddy and all. I'm like hell dude they do that to everybody! He is a carpenter and was supposed to go there and do some work on their house, at least that is what my aunt told me. Since, he has signed up to work in Iraq. I don't know whatever happened of that situation but I'm sure the Pinay probably got him for some bucks too.
If it is not a P4P situation then before I hand money over to any woman I must have her collateral in my possession and have her written plan of how and when she intends to pay it back. If none of her friends and relatives or a bank for that matter will loan / give her money then why would I?
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Another DIA virgin?
A 20 year old DIA hottie sent me a text this afternoon asking for 10, 000 pesos to pay for the hospital treatment for her sick father who was in dock for diabetes (its always diabetes or high blood). In return I could have her, supposed, cherry. I told her that if she really was a virgin, she was selling her prize asset cheap and besides, having deflowered a maiden once or twice in my life; it does nothing special for me. Bit like breaking in a new engine, you just want put your foot down but know it will do it no good at all.
So I offered her 3000, which is high for me and only because she is so cute and very brown, just as I like them. She is holding out for more. Smart kid!
Anyone interested in making a higher bid or has had a similar offer recently?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1123187]Of course. Would you talk to a person who does not have a picture? What good is a picture is it doesn't show your face? Same goes for the opposite sex. They need to see who they are talking to or trying to meet as much as you do.[/QUOTE]I have had dating profiles for years. I never put my picture on it. The bad-boy profile I must take down between trips, as it gets hit constantly. Many, many girls are willing to meet up for the naughty, sight-unseen to them. I'm still amazed at the number of men who feel they must 'woo' the girls online. Even worse, I talk to guys who feel they must woo bargirls also (with their time, sweetness, and money).
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1123048]My specific point was directed to the guys who send money to women they have NOT met and for whom they have no idea of the "business" these women are engaged in.[/QUOTE]Ah, got it, RK.
Thanks
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Bargain
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1123255]A 20 year old DIA hottie sent me a text this afternoon asking for 10, 000 pesos to pay for the hospital treatment for her sick father who was in dock for diabetes (its always diabetes or high blood). In return I could have her, supposed, cherry. I told her that if she really was a virgin, she was selling her prize asset cheap and besides, having deflowered a maiden once or twice in my life; it does nothing special for me. Bit like breaking in a new engine, you just want put your foot down but know it will do it no good at all.
So I offered her 3000, which is high for me and only because she is so cute and very brown, just as I like them. She is holding out for more. Smart kid!
Anyone interested in making a higher bid or has had a similar offer recently? [/QUOTE]Dear CS.
Well fro me 10k is a bargain virgin. No wining and dining no gifts no pasa-bloody-lobong. But I woudl not bid againts you my friend.
Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1123274]I have had dating profiles for years. I never put my picture on it. The bad-boy profile I must take down between trips, as it gets hit constantly. Many, many girls are willing to meet up for the naughty, sight-unseen to them. I'm still amazed at the number of men who feel they must 'woo' the girls online. Even worse, I talk to guys who feel they must woo bargirls also (with their time, sweetness, and money).[/QUOTE]Well, I hate to tell ya but 90% of those DIA or other online girls are actually "bargirls". Maybe freelance but still the same nontheless. I know quite a few bargirls on the DIA sites and they play like they are new to the game. I think most guys know this but feel the "wooing" will give them a better GFE experience, if that is what they are looking for. I'm not judging, everone has their own style, nothing wrong with it, just a matter of preference.
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[QUOTE=Cyber Whip;1123404]Well, I hate to tell ya but 90% of those DIA or other online girls are actually "bargirls". Maybe freelance but still the same nontheless. I know quite a few bargirls on the DIA sites and they play like they are new to the game. I think most guys know this but feel the "wooing" will give them a better GFE experience, if that is what they are looking for. I'm not judging, everone has their own style, nothing wrong with it, just a matter of preference.[/QUOTE]Well you might just be a tad off in your maths. I'm a regular Manila visitor so think I know just a little about DIA and the girls on it. There are very few bargirls there. If your familiar with the Philippines (23 posts, they must have been long ones, right?) , then the bar girls tend to take pics of themselves at work. This means if you see lockers in the background chances they are a bargirl. In the 2 years I've been scoring freebies on DIA, I've come across about 10 bargirls in DIA excluding Angeles. Of the 10, I've met a few either in their bars, or in Eurotel for the usual.
If I was in Manila theres a girl thats just started working in a bar that I'd love to meet. Is 19, just lost her job as a maid and now forced to work in a bar in EDSA. Would be great to take her on.
Anyways 90% nah, totally and utterly wrong mate. As your teacher probably told you," Must do Better!"
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1123548]If I was in Manila theres a girl thats just started working in a bar that I'd love to meet. Is 19, just lost her job as a maid and now forced to work in a bar in EDSA. Would be great to take her on.[/QUOTE]And they can sometimes be honest about it, when they do work in a bar. As this girl was in her profile:
"Hi, easy going out girl, lov party play billiards and all fun to forgot some problem,
Honest person I want to meet here, will being honest I tell you frankly to those who view my profile that I'm working before in armenian family as a househelper here in Philippines manila for 1yer. But now I'm working in the bar as a door entertainer here in manila days ago, didn't hav choice its very dif. To found a nice job, I don't want to stay longer in home because my family neds my help, I'm belong to the broken family, will its too long ned to stop this nonsense conversation. Don't look outside looking, much better your look in inside, keep a smile always, bhel."
If this is the same 19 year old Freebie, but sorry it may be sweaty second for you:D. Not yet though. I arranged to meet her last week but had to pull out.
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Cost to de-virginate
[QUOTE=Radoboy; 1123389]Dear CS.
Well fro me 10k is a bargain virgin. No wining and dining no gifts no pasa-bloody-lobong. But I woudl not bid againts you my friend.
Good luck! [/QUOTE]My standard offer here in the provinces is P5k. I had one last weekend. Now she's become my commuting housekeeper. Another such, surprised at the offer, pointed out that there are many, a new crop every year. I explain that it's a chore for me, but she deserves something special for giving me the first shot. I also advise her, so she won't be angry if she learns of it later, that she can perhaps get P20k up to P100k in some mongering location. But, the guys who seek out virgins, mostly Japanese, usually want a 15 or 16 whyear old The danger and unpleasantness, I explain, will probably come not from the client and the actual deed, but from the Filipino intermediaries. I don't know of any friend who decided to go that route. Mostly, they give it for love or for passion to the pinay BF, and follow the life path of their mothers.
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Today's Request for Money
I need 6, 000 pesos because my auntie is in jail for not paying the electric bill. Hahahahahahahahahaha
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1123692]And they can sometimes be honest about it, when they do work in a bar. As this girl was in her profile:
"Hi, easy going out girl, lov party play billiards and all fun to forgot some problem,
Honest person I want to meet here, will being honest I tell you frankly to those who view my profile that I'm working before in armenian family as a househelper here in Philippines manila for 1yer. But now I'm working in the bar as a door entertainer here in manila days ago, didn't hav choice its very dif. To found a nice job, I don't want to stay longer in home because my family neds my help, I'm belong to the broken family, will its too long ned to stop this nonsense conversation. Don't look outside looking, much better your look in inside, keep a smile always, bhel."
If this is the same 19 year old Freebie, but sorry it may be sweaty second for you. Not yet though. I arranged to meet her last week but had to pull out. [/QUOTE]Of course it was. LOL. Damn. Tell me how it went. I imagine there were several all sniffing at that door. Hahah. I was supposed to meet her last trip but I got waylaid. Well I got laid elsewhere. LOL
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Challenged by the English language
Had the usual "Hi" from a girl in Cebu. The profile showed me her grasp of english was rudimentary to say the least.
I replied with "Hello,. Hope we can meet when I am in Cebu next month. I will be staying at X Hotel"
Her reply: "ahh ok do you like me come on you and stay forever on you".
I was tempted to be very flippant in my answer because it sounds like a hot offer but I never. She was using "on" instead of "with" which is a very common mistake girls make. I have since found out she wants a hubby desperately so I will be bypassing her offer LOL.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1123880]Of course it was. LOL. Damn. Tell me how it went. I imagine there were several all sniffing at that door. Hahah. I was supposed to meet her last trip but I got waylaid. Well I got laid elsewhere. LOL[/QUOTE]So many girls, so little time, huh? She told me she worked the door and did not barfine. Yeah, pull the other one:). She is on my list but far from the top so I'll probably not get around to her. She looks OK but is no particular beauty. We'll see. I'll keep you posted if I do meet her.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1124093]She told me she worked the door and did not barfine.[/QUOTE]That's the same thing all the girls on "Willing Willie" say. What an amazing coincidence!
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Can I Trust You To Keep A Secrete?
Recieved this message on a filipina dating site today.
[quote]Can I Trust You To Keep A Secrete?
I'm Mrs Jessica Paul a widow and cancer patient I have to sell all my properties left by my husband because the doctors say I have less than 2months to live. I have deposited the funds of $five million which I sold from my properties and deposit into a Bank. I want you to help me use the funds to help the charity deaf and the motherless babies home before I die. If you are a good and honest person I shall give you the contact of the Bank and also the Deposit Certificate so as to claim my funds before my death. May the grace of our lord jesus the love of God and the fellowship of God be with you and your family. Do contact me and I will tell you more of what you wish to
Know. Till you reply me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
God bless you.
Yours in Christ,
Mrs. Jessica Paul.[/quote]
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Money
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1122782]I have had similar stories told to me Radoboy but somehow I don't blame the women.
They are taking advantage of guys' stupidity and are just cashing in on an opportunity.
I have a friend who works in Western Union in Northern Luzon and she laughs at how so many girls come in regularly to collect money. She told me of one girl that has sponsors in Japan, Britain and Australia, and all of them she met on a dating site.
ANYONE who sends ANY money of any kind to a person that he has not PERSONALLY met is a fool and deserves to be fleeced.
I am sad that some guys are so lonely or so easily seduced by the "idea" of chatting with a sexy and pretty young woman on the other side of the world that they go to the next step of sending them cold cash.
I have so many stories I can tell of guys losing money this way, and very very rarely does it turn out to be a positive experience. [/QUOTE]I agree with you Red Kilt. Rarely turns out to be a positive expereince I met two girls on mfc. Helped both of them get off mfc by sending them money. I had just met them on mfc and decided to take a chance.
One from the Pateros district in Manila and the other in Angeles. Met both women and visited their "homes" very depressing. I could see the money I was sending wasnt going to parties or clothes but to basic needs.
Although both girls needed my help, I wouldn't do it again until I met them. I will stop helping the Pateros girl It sems as though I have to support sister and father too. No way The Angeles girl was so sweet. She mever asked for anything while I was there but when I went to her home and saw how poor they were I took her to SM mall to buy what she needed. Now that I know a the angles girl well I wil continue to help her until her andher younger brother can get on their feet. These two girls seemed especially appreciative of my efforts but the others no way.
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Maybe I just lucky
I been a user in DIA and FLIA for a few months now and something very strange happened to me. I get the regular amount of girls who just want money, some just marriage and so forth. I meet some of them and win some, lose some. Because I can not travel as much as other member I am usually a cam guy guy. Well anyway lately I been having maybe 1 or 2 virgins every week contact me thru my smiles / show interest in FLIA and DIA. Usually when there are virgins I just give them a wide turn, first because I not wish to de-virgin (too much work) and I am looking for someone who has done.
When I talk to them, I talk with respect and I think that is why the like me.
Well a month ago, just to chat, I chatted with this girl, first time I meet her, but we kind of connected in personality, well she was a virgin, I told her I look for a gf who can do more than just kiss and hugs, so I thought that was going to be it. She still wanted to be friends (as always :P ). So I called her. She just turned 19 last week before my call. Any way in the phone even so her English was not perfect, we were able to connect and get closer. I told her even so she was virgin, she can keep virginity and experience the enjoyment of sex, she said how so I told her I can teach over the phone. She said would it be safe? I said of course we have many miles between us, and she alone in her room.
Well anyway, I got her started by first touching her breast / nipples for a while, according to her, this was her first time, and I believed her. She told me she liked it and she never experienced this before. I asked her if her pussy was wet and she checked and said yes, so I asked her to touched her pussy.
Well anyway, she cum like 3 times and every time she said I don't believe it is so good. I was keep cheering her from the phone and get her ready for the next cum.
I told her next we will simulate my cock in her pussy, by inserting 2 fingers deep in her.
But not to do it until I told her to do so, just to touch with pussy again.
Once she got very excited, I told her to push, she scream and wanted to stop, but I keep ordering her to do it, I guess you have to talk with authority in this moment, well anyway, she pushed inside and broke her hymen for me.
Later on, I indicated how to push in and out and rub her clitoris with her small finger when she did, and even so it hurt, she was able to cum 3 more times.
She was so thankful for this. I asked her if she has any blood in her fingers and she said yes, so I then told her that she just gave me her virginity, which was a surprise to her.
When I go there, I want to see her, but also she is not afraid of sex anymore because already she gave me her virginity.
Well anyway one time would not be remarkable, but I am getting maybe one or two virgins per week, with similar stories. Some of them I got them to cam to cam, some only phone.
I think this is better if I get then de-virgin on the phone first before I meet them. Is not 100% but maybe middle 20.
Well anyway after I make them realized that they just gave me their virginity, some of the cried, some were surprised, some just very in pain some in joy, BUT all now feel that they belong to me and told me that they wish to learn everything from me.
I told them in real, I will make them drink my cum, put in ass and also take recording. All are willing to do anything because they wish to experience more.
Just wanted to know if anyone has similar experiences. I already broke with some of them and they found new bf which I guess needs to continue their training.
Well I know it sounds like a tall tale, but is not. Any advice from other members with similar situations would be appreciated.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Member #1088;1125322]I been a user in DIA and FLIA[/QUOTE]Can anyone tell me what is FLIA?
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[QUOTE=Member #1088; 1125322]Well anyway, she cum like 3 times and every time she said I don't believe it is so good. I was keep cheering her from the phone and get her ready for the next cum.
I told her next we will simulate my cock in her pussy, by inserting 2 fingers deep in her.
She was so thankful for this. I asked her if she has any blood in her fingers and she said yes, so I then told her that she just gave me her virginity, which was a surprise to her.
When I go there, I want to see her, but also she is not afraid of sex anymore because already she gave me her virginity.
I think this is better if I get then de-virgin on the phone first before I meet them. Is not 100% but maybe middle 20.
I told them in real, I will make them drink my cum, put in ass and also take recording. All are willing to do anything because they wish to experience more.
Well I know it sounds like a tall tale, but is not. Any advice from other members with similar situations would be appreciated. [/QUOTE]"de-virginize over the phone". Men, from which porn-site did you copy this lines? Or writing down a wet dream of yours?
If not, pm me please the YM adress and I do her in real soon, brother. Just to help you.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Rampana;1125328]Can anyone tell me what is FLIA?[/QUOTE]Find Love asia dot com
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[QUOTE=Atlas57;1124528]Now that I know a the angles girl well I wil continue to help her until her andher younger brother can get on their feet.[/QUOTE]And just how long will it take and what efforts are they putting forth to get themselves "on their feet?" The truth is that in most of these places the people do not have opportunity as we do in our countries. So if they didn't come from money the chances of them coming in to money are slim to none. And that is where the foreigner factor comes in. Feed me Seymour.
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Dia guide for newbies
DIA Guide.
Guys I have had a few PMs in the past from guys asking about DIA so I thought I would compile a brief guide to help out newbies. The Date in Asia website (dateinasia. Com) can provide a fertile hunting ground for Filipinas and I have been using it very successfully for the last 5 years. I thought I would write a brief guide about my own experiences, it is probably useful to those guys that have never used DIA and are thinking of coming to the Philippines to meet girls from the site. I guess the principles can be applied to other sites like Cherry Blossom and International Cupid though I use these far less than I use DIA. DIA contains pros, semi pros, part time pros, wanabee pros, scammers, cam girls, ladyboys and loads and loads of ordinary girls who just want a foreigner boyfriend no matter how old the guy is. If you are over the age of 60 and fat and ugly you have as much chance of hooking up with a beautiful 18 year old college student as anyone else if you have dollars in your pocket (or pounds or euros). I have used other websites to find girls but for some reason I have found DIA to be the best and it is also completely free to use.
The one problem with DIA is that it only allows you to post the same message about three times, so you cannot cut and paste the same message multiple times. The way round this is to prepare a generic message and change the beginning and end every few times and it usually works and is much faster than typing out messages each time you find a desirable girl that you want to communicate with.
There is no easy way to say this but using DIA requires lots of time and effort chatting to these girls to find the ones that you are keen on meeting. I first assess girls on looks and age and then send a message to introduce myself. Probably less than 1% will fail to reply at this stage. I then slowly introduce what it is I am looking for, through the exchange of three or four messages. Pros and semi pros will not be fazed with anything you say, but regular girls require a little more effort and patience if you are looking for something outside of their comfort zone, such as a threesome. Just introduce things to them very slowly but only once you have established some kind of rapport or on line relationship with them, patience is the key here. Most girls will not want to risk losing you and can be persuaded to do things they would not normally consider, but only after you have spent a long time cultivating them. I never pass on girls I meet from DIA despite numerous requests from other members. It is simply because I have usually invested hours and hours of on line work with the girls to ascertain who fits the very specific criteria that I am looking for. It is very subjective on my part but I am reluctant to hand these girls over to other members simply because I care about them and don't want them to be treated badly by guys I have never met. I know others don't agree with this principle, but then DIA is open to everyone to find their dream girl.
Always, always see the girl on cam first before meeting, photos can be very deceptive and even cams are not always reliable. 99. 9% of Filipinas use yahoo messenger and most will suggest using messenger within a couple of emails on DIA.
Yahoo is better than DIA as the DIA messaging system is slow and there is no facility to send instant messages. Most of the girls will have access to cams so you can get a better idea what they look like. Be careful if you are looking for cam sex, some girls who will be raging nymphomaniacs when you first meet, will be completely put off meeting you if you start asking them to undress on cam. I know it sounds perverse but that is the mind set you are dealing with here.
Some girls will ask for money, even girls who are genuine and not scammers may try their luck. My advice is DO NOT send money, there will never be a shortage of hard luck, sad and heart wrenching stories. The requests do not just come from scammers, many genuine and honest girls will try their luck to borrow some money from you, due to some domestic calamity that has befallen them.
Don't be put off with what girls state in their profile, the majority of the time it is nonsense. For example 'I am seeking a church going, god fearing, responsible and honest man, who wants to settle down into a loving relationship and who wants a family' still means there is a good chance you will have her panties off as soon as the hotel door is closed. It is all part of playing along with their illusions, just tread carefully don't shatter their dreams and they will often not let you down.
Now I think the biggest mistake guys make on DIA is not talking to the older ugly women of which DIA has its fair share. I have found these women to be a rich source of girls, ranging from their own daughters, to nieces, relatives and neighbours. Just locate women in the area you are visiting through the DIA search function and just drop them a line saying something like 'Hi I am visiting your area next month and I am looking for a nice girl in her early 20s who is looking for a boyfriend' you will be surprised at how many women these older ladies can produce for you. Some might try and insist on making a personal introduction and it will cost you the price of a Jollibees, which not much in my book if she is willing to introduce you to a nice hot 19 year old student (speaking from personal experience).
Many girls will often live in outlying provinces and will show their destination to the nearest big city. This invariably means at least one bus ride and or a couple of long jeepney rides to come and meet you. Most of the girls are dirt poor and do not even have the fare for a jeepney ride and it is not always so easy for them to borrow money to come and visit you. However if you do send money in advance, you must be prepared to risk losing it, as some girls will take the money and run. They fail to see the longer term financial benefits of meeting you and a small proportion will just keep the money. It has happened to me a couple of times, but that is two times out of about 20 times that I have sent money. If you refuse to send money to the girls in advance and the girls live a long way from your base, you must expect that a large percentage will not turn up. If they borrow the money and you fail to show, or reimburse them, they will not only lose face with their friends and family, they will have to suffer the humiliation of owing money they borrowed for their fare and with no means to pay it back. I have said this before and I will say it again, if the girl borrows her fare to meet you, for god's sake do the decent thing and turn up and give her back the money, even if you have changed your mind or found your dream girl elsewhere.
Remember that too many girls is never enough on DIA, so make sure you have dozens of contacts even if you think you have a handful of dead certainties. No matter how many months you spend chatting on line declaring undying love to each other, many girls will let you down at the last minute. It may be because their other foreigner bf has turned up unexpectedly, they have suddenly got cold feet, they are menstruating by the bucketful or any other possible reason under the sun. They will tell you that their auntie, mom, brother, sister is sick and that they are so sorry but they cannot leave to come and meet you. Just accept it as part of the game and don't take it personally.
When you do meet girls you need to be organised. 99. 9% of girls will fail to show up on time so I tend to leave my hotel only when they are actually at the venue that I have arranged to meet them at. They will call you with all sorts of bull shit stories like, sorry the traffic is bad (when they are actually at home still putting on makeup) or the taxi driver is lost. It used to enrage me when I first started coming to the Philippines, now I accept it as part of the culture. I have one regular girl in Cebu that I have known for years and she knows I hate poor timekeeping. I arranged to meet her at SM Mall when I was in Cebu in January and she was over one hour late. Once I knew she had arrived at the mall, I went for lunch and made her sit around for an hour waiting for me, just to see how she liked it.
NEVER NEVER allow the girl to meet you at the airport, no matter how beautiful she is or how much you (think) you love her. Once you do this your fun is over, your freedom is curtailed and you will have more luck trying to remove your head from the mouth of a hungry lion. Girls will often offer to meet you at the airport, but unless you have met the girl IN PERSON before, don't fall into this trap. Don't even tell them the name of your hotel, just tell them you will book somewhere when you arrive and always always meet for the first time at a neutral venue. If you ignore all my other advice, make sure you at least follow this one piece of advice.
No matter how well you know the girl and no matter how many months you have been chatting, the vast majority of girls, especially non pros, will want to bring along some moral support with them to your first meeting. This can range from one family or friend in tow, to the whole family including young babies, I kid you not. They will usually always be hungry and will usually expect a trip to McDonalds or Jollibees. The trick here is to minimize the damage to your wallet by insisting clearly before you meet that one friend or family member is acceptable, any more than that and you walk. Most girls will listen if you make this clear beforehand.
Now when you arrive in the Philippines if you do not get yourself a local sim card within 30 minutes of landing you can equate this to being like a hungry, blind, deaf and dumb man trying to order dinner at a restaurant. Lots has already been written on the merits of different providers, I use Globe but others reckon Sun is cheaper and better. IMHO it does not really matter so long as you make sure you have one. You cannot date girls in the Philippines without texting, so those of you thinking about going for the first time need to get used to this as a fact of life. If you are using DIA and have a few dozen girls lined up, my advice to you is just give your cell number out slowly till you have met up with a few girls first and discarded the ones you are not interested in. I was trying to be selective on my last trip and I was still getting around 3-4 hundred text messages per day at one stage. Just accept that you will spend many hours texting, there is no way to escape this dreary fact, it is the only way you can communicate with the girls. Most of their text messages will be utter rubbish, but they will still be hurt if you don't reply. Don't let it annoy you or it will really drive you crazy, just try to accept it as the Filipina way.
Hopefully this is useful to those not familiar with DIA. I have just started trying to find new girls ready for my next trip in June. I have a regular stable of about half a dozen DIA girls in the Philippines that I always see, but you can't beat new blood!
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[QUOTE=Mortman;1125432]DIA Guide.... not talking to the older ugly women of which DIA has its fair share. I have found these women to be a rich source of girls, ranging from their own daughters, to nieces, relatives and neighbours. ![/QUOTE]Ah the Definitive Guide! Should be released as an E-book on Amazon!
I have known, and forgotten about the referral potential from the older women. A few have chatted me up in stores and suggested I meet their daughter / neice / whatever.
Also note that I am able to reply and quote your post without re-posting every para of this long report!
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Out! Standing!
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1125432]DIA Guide.
The one problem with DIA is that it only allows you to post the same message about three times, so you cannot cut and paste the same message multiple times. The way round this is to prepare a generic message and change the beginning and end every few times and it usually works and is much faster than typing out messages each time you find a desirable girl that you want to communicate with. [/QUOTE]This is excellent! Mort this can't be said better. Mort's advice on not letting her meet you at the airport is 'spot-on' if you are planning to meet multiple girls.
Regarding the part above, about DIA not allowing cut / paste. I have found a trick. Try this. In your word processor, make three (3) short, generic messages, such as these. Save this file. Here are 3 examples:
* Hi my name is Bob. Loved your profile, sweet. Do you have YM I'd? Write back if you want to chat with me.
* My name's Bob. Your profile is very honest and sweet. Drop a message back and lets chat some. Do you YM?
* Your profile seems nice and you seem honest. Write back if you like to talk some with me. Can we YM? I'm thinking of coming to Philippines for a vacation.
Once in DIA, cut / paste the first one to the first girl. Then the second one to the second gal. Then the third one to the third gal. Then start with the first one above to the fourth gal. And so on. Works like a charm! I have found most girls don't bother reading what I write anyway, and most respond with their YM I'd in their first response.
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Cell phone
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1125432]DIA Guide.
Guys I have had a few PMs in the past from guys asking about DIA so I thought I would compile a brief guide to help out newbies. The Date in Asia website (dateinasia. Com) can provide a fertile hunting ground for Filipinas and I have been using it very successfully for the last 5 years. I thought I would write a brief guide about my own experiences, it is probably useful to those guys that have never used DIA and are thinking of coming to the Philippines to meet girls from the site. I guess the principles can be applied to other sites like Cherry Blossom and International Cupid though I use these far less than I use DIA. DIA contains pros, semi pros, part time pros, wanabee pros, scammers, cam girls, ladyboys and loads and loads of ordinary girls who just want a foreigner boyfriend no matter how old the guy is. If you are over the age of 60 and fat and ugly you have as much chance of hooking up with a beautiful 18 year old college student as anyone else if you have dollars in your pocket (or pounds or euros). I have used other websites to find girls but for some reason I have found DIA to be the best and it is also completely free to use.
The one problem with DIA is that it only allows you to post the same message about three times, so you cannot cut and paste the same message multiple times. The way round this is to prepare a generic message and change the beginning and end every few times and it usually works and is much faster than typing out messages each time you find a desirable girl that you want to communicate with.
There is no easy way to say this but using DIA requires lots of time and effort chatting to these girls to find the ones that you are keen on meeting. I first assess girls on looks and age and then send a message to introduce myself. Probably less than 1% will fail to reply at this stage. I then slowly introduce what it is I am looking for, through the exchange of three or four messages. Pros and semi pros will not be fazed with anything you say, but regular girls require a little more effort and patience if you are looking for something outside of their comfort zone, such as a threesome. Just introduce things to them very slowly but only once you have established some kind of rapport or on line relationship with them, patience is the key here. Most girls will not want to risk losing you and can be persuaded to do things they would not normally consider, but only after you have spent a long time cultivating them. I never pass on girls I meet from DIA despite numerous requests from other members. It is simply because I have usually invested hours and hours of on line work with the girls to ascertain who fits the very specific criteria that I am looking for. It is very subjective on my part but I am reluctant to hand these girls over to other members simply because I care about them and don't want them to be treated badly by guys I have never met. I know others don't agree with this principle, but then DIA is open to everyone to find their dream girl.
Always, always see the girl on cam first before meeting, photos can be very deceptive and even cams are not always reliable. 99. 9% of Filipinas use yahoo messenger and most will suggest using messenger within a couple of emails on DIA.
Yahoo is better than DIA as the DIA messaging system is slow and there is no facility to send instant messages. Most of the girls will have access to cams so you can get a better idea what they look like. Be careful if you are looking for cam sex, some girls who will be raging nymphomaniacs when you first meet, will be completely put off meeting you if you start asking them to undress on cam. I know it sounds perverse but that is the mind set you are dealing with here.
Some girls will ask for money, even girls who are genuine and not scammers may try their luck. My advice is DO NOT send money, there will never be a shortage of hard luck, sad and heart wrenching stories. The requests do not just come from scammers, many genuine and honest girls will try their luck to borrow some money from you, due to some domestic calamity that has befallen them.
Don't be put off with what girls state in their profile, the majority of the time it is nonsense. For example 'I am seeking a church going, god fearing, responsible and honest man, who wants to settle down into a loving relationship and who wants a family' still means there is a good chance you will have her panties off as soon as the hotel door is closed. It is all part of playing along with their illusions, just tread carefully don't shatter their dreams and they will often not let you down.
Now I think the biggest mistake guys make on DIA is not talking to the older ugly women of which DIA has its fair share. I have found these women to be a rich source of girls, ranging from their own daughters, to nieces, relatives and neighbours. Just locate women in the area you are visiting through the DIA search function and just drop them a line saying something like 'Hi I am visiting your area next month and I am looking for a nice girl in her early 20s who is looking for a boyfriend' you will be surprised at how many women these older ladies can produce for you. Some might try and insist on making a personal introduction and it will cost you the price of a Jollibees, which not much in my book if she is willing to introduce you to a nice hot 19 year old student (speaking from personal experience).
Many girls will often live in outlying provinces and will show their destination to the nearest big city. This invariably means at least one bus ride and or a couple of long jeepney rides to come and meet you. Most of the girls are dirt poor and do not even have the fare for a jeepney ride and it is not always so easy for them to borrow money to come and visit you. However if you do send money in advance, you must be prepared to risk losing it, as some girls will take the money and run. They fail to see the longer term financial benefits of meeting you and a small proportion will just keep the money. It has happened to me a couple of times, but that is two times out of about 20 times that I have sent money. If you refuse to send money to the girls in advance and the girls live a long way from your base, you must expect that a large percentage will not turn up. If they borrow the money and you fail to show, or reimburse them, they will not only lose face with their friends and family, they will have to suffer the humiliation of owing money they borrowed for their fare and with no means to pay it back. I have said this before and I will say it again, if the girl borrows her fare to meet you, for god's sake do the decent thing and turn up and give her back the money, even if you have changed your mind or found your dream girl elsewhere.
Remember that too many girls is never enough on DIA, so make sure you have dozens of contacts even if you think you have a handful of dead certainties. No matter how many months you spend chatting on line declaring undying love to each other, many girls will let you down at the last minute. It may be because their other foreigner bf has turned up unexpectedly, they have suddenly got cold feet, they are menstruating by the bucketful or any other possible reason under the sun. They will tell you that their auntie, mom, brother, sister is sick and that they are so sorry but they cannot leave to come and meet you. Just accept it as part of the game and don't take it personally.
When you do meet girls you need to be organised. 99. 9% of girls will fail to show up on time so I tend to leave my hotel only when they are actually at the venue that I have arranged to meet them at. They will call you with all sorts of bull shit stories like, sorry the traffic is bad (when they are actually at home still putting on makeup) or the taxi driver is lost. It used to enrage me when I first started coming to the Philippines, now I accept it as part of the culture. I have one regular girl in Cebu that I have known for years and she knows I hate poor timekeeping. I arranged to meet her at SM Mall when I was in Cebu in January and she was over one hour late. Once I knew she had arrived at the mall, I went for lunch and made her sit around for an hour waiting for me, just to see how she liked it.
NEVER NEVER allow the girl to meet you at the airport, no matter how beautiful she is or how much you (think) you love her. Once you do this your fun is over, your freedom is curtailed and you will have more luck trying to remove your head from the mouth of a hungry lion. Girls will often offer to meet you at the airport, but unless you have met the girl IN PERSON before, don't fall into this trap. Don't even tell them the name of your hotel, just tell them you will book somewhere when you arrive and always always meet for the first time at a neutral venue. If you ignore all my other advice, make sure you at least follow this one piece of advice.
No matter how well you know the girl and no matter how many months you have been chatting, the vast majority of girls, especially non pros, will want to bring along some moral support with them to your first meeting. This can range from one family or friend in tow, to the whole family including young babies, I kid you not. They will usually always be hungry and will usually expect a trip to McDonalds or Jollibees. The trick here is to minimize the damage to your wallet by insisting clearly before you meet that one friend or family member is acceptable, any more than that and you walk. Most girls will listen if you make this clear beforehand.
Now when you arrive in the Philippines if you do not get yourself a local sim card within 30 minutes of landing you can equate this to being like a hungry, blind, deaf and dumb man trying to order dinner at a restaurant. Lots has already been written on the merits of different providers, I use Globe but others reckon Sun is cheaper and better. IMHO it does not really matter so long as you make sure you have one. You cannot date girls in the Philippines without texting, so those of you thinking about going for the first time need to get used to this as a fact of life. If you are using DIA and have a few dozen girls lined up, my advice to you is just give your cell number out slowly till you have met up with a few girls first and discarded the ones you are not interested in. I was trying to be selective on my last trip and I was still getting around 3-4 hundred text messages per day at one stage. Just accept that you will spend many hours texting, there is no way to escape this dreary fact, it is the only way you can communicate with the girls. Most of their text messages will be utter rubbish, but they will still be hurt if you don't reply. Don't let it annoy you or it will really drive you crazy, just try to accept it as the Filipina way.
Hopefully this is useful to those not familiar with DIA. I have just started trying to find new girls ready for my next trip in June. I have a regular stable of about half a dozen DIA girls in the Philippines that I always see, but you can't beat new blood! [/QUOTE]Mortman great advice. I recently returned from manila and and angeles and I thought I could do without a CP. How wrong was I I satyed at the Savanna and I was trying to contact my girl I used the hotel phone and even though my gf never answered the hotel charged me for the call. Trying to contact anyone in ther PI without a CP is madness.
Number 1 need for a monger in the Phillippines is a cell phone Boy did I learn my lesson
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You Don't Have to Quote the Whole Damn Thing
[QUOTE=Atlas57;1125615]Mortman great advice. I recently returned from manila and and angeles and I thought I could do without a CP.[/QUOTE]Please learn how to post. It is not necessary to post all of a quote to add your comment.
Slim
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[QUOTE=Mortman; 1125432]DIA Guide.
I have just started trying to find new girls ready for my next trip in June. I have a regular stable of about half a dozen DIA girls in the Philippines that I always see, but you can't beat new blood! [/QUOTE]Excellent post Mortman. We all have our different strategies in using DIA. Personally I only start using DIA 3 to 4 weeks prior to my trip as I do not have the time to spend cultivating young ladies.
My profile is very up front in that I quite clearly indicate that I am not looking for a serious relationship, and I do not put a picture up either. I still manage to harness quite a stable of eager young fillies prepared to sample my wares. If the girl who contacts me in DIA is not directly fuckable in that either she is not up for fun or butt ugly I have still managed to get dates with her friends, cousins, neighbours etc. And these ladies know exactly what the score is.
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Here is a news story showing Mortman knows of what he speaks regarding age.
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1125432]DIA Guide.
Girls who just want a foreigner boyfriend no matter how old the guy is. If you are over the age of 60 and fat and ugly you have as much chance of hooking up with a beautiful 18 year old college student as anyone else if you have dollars in your pocket (or pounds or euros).
Here is a story from the Visayan Daily Star in Bacolod City.
Robbers maul Frenchman.
BY ADRIAN NEMES III
Three men mauled a French national after robbing him of his cash at his residence at a subdivision in Brgy. Singcang Airport, Bacolod City, early morning yesterday.
Station 8 commander, Chief Insp. Danilo Francisco, yesterday identified the victim as (Roger Celestine Kamalasekaran. 66,) of St. Mecaila Village, Brgy. Singcang Airport.
Kamalasekaran was rushed to the Bacolod Adventist Medical Center, where he is still confined, Francisco said.
Francisco told the DAILY STAR that the Frenchman just arrived and was about to enter his house when the suspects attacked him at the garage. They then mauled him when he fought back and when he was already lying on the pavement, they took P4, 500 from his pocket and fled.
('Kamalasekaran's common-law wife, Grace Bonalos. 18, ') told the police that she was awakened by the noise in their garage and when she checked, she saw the Frenchman lying on the ground while and suspects was escaping.
Initial investigation conducted by Police Officer 1 Robert Gaurana showed that the suspects were able to enter the Frenchman's house because he failed to lock the main gate.
Francisco said they are still trying to establish the identities of the suspects because the victim and his wife could hardly describe them*APN
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[QUOTE=Mortman; 1125432]DIA Guide.
I arranged to meet her at SM Mall when I was in Cebu in January and she was over one hour late. Once I knew she had arrived at the mall, I went for lunch and made her sit around for an hour waiting for me, just to see how she liked it.
No matter how well you know the girl and no matter how many months you have been chatting, the vast majority of girls, especially non pros, will want to bring along some moral support with them to your first meeting. This can range from one family or friend in tow, to the whole family including young babies, I kid you not. They will usually always be hungry and will usually expect a trip to McDonalds or Jollibees. The trick here is to minimize the damage to your wallet by insisting clearly before you meet that one friend or family member is acceptable, any more than that and you walk. Most girls will listen if you make this clear beforehand.
Hopefully this is useful to those not familiar with DIA. I have just started trying to find new girls ready for my next trip in June. I have a regular stable of about half a dozen DIA girls in the Philippines that I always see, but you can't beat new blood![/QUOTE]I agree with most of what you state, but from personal experience some slight differences.
I always tell mine to be on time or we won't be meeting. In reality I give them 30 minutes, but the other day A Filipina played the " don't you know Filipino time" I said "No I didn't " and told her I would wait 30 mins no more. After 25 mins lots of phone calls each more urgent saying please wait wait wait. I left. She wasn't a " must bonk " so I didn't really care. Be strict. And sometimes they come early. Case in point on my last trip I said we would meet at 10am. She texted me at 8am saying she's there waiting.
If you are strict, and the girl is old enough she doesn't need to meet you with anyone. Again, if you show you are in control, and I generally state that only teenagers need some moral support and its much more grown up to meet without a companion it usually works. On the rare cases I give the companion P100 to go buy Jollibee and go away.
Finally its entirely possible that we are playing with the same stable of girls. I say this as recently I was exchanging some emails with a very nice girl I know in Bangkok. We meet every time I visit. By mistake she sent me an email with a cc to about 200 other guys. All clearly europeans, and I'm sure they werent just "chatmates ". Anyways I'm sure paths and condoms have crossed many times with same girls.
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[QUOTE=Jambo;1125461]Also note that I am able to reply and quote your post without re-posting every para of this long report![/QUOTE]Obviously some hints are just too difficult to understand!
[QUOTE=Atlas57;1125615]Mortman great advice.....[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mortman; 1125432]DIA Guide.
I never pass on girls I meet from DIA despite numerous requests from other members. It is simply because I have usually invested hours and hours of on line work with the girls to ascertain who fits the very specific criteria that I am looking for. It is very subjective on my part but I am reluctant to hand these girls over to other members simply because I care about them and don't want them to be treated badly by guys I have never met. I know others don't agree with this principle, but then DIA is open to everyone to find their dream girl. [/QUOTE]Hi Mortman,
Excellent guide!
And I absolutely understand and agree your policy about the girls (as you maybe remember my conflict w / another board member about that).
I adopeted the same policy. It is hard work to select girls. Why should I share them?
Ram
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The DIA Klingons
the one real drawback with dia (and other dating sites) girls, is getting rid of them afterward. admittedly this only applies to residents or long term visitors, but it can be a real problem. no matter how much you emphasize to them before a meeting that you are only up for some nsa fun and don't want a serious relationship, many just don't get it, and after you have enjoyed their company a time or two and want to move on to the next prospect, you will be bombarded with calls, texts, yms and facebook messages, begging for you to meet and provide some more fun. this is particularly the case if you gave them money which they are nearly all short of.
sometimes it reaches a point where you feel that you are being stalked by cock hungry young nymphos! i used to have wet dreams that wasn't as much fun:d. seriously, it can become quite a problem and apart from changing your sim card (the last resort) and putting blocks on other poc's, you just have to put up with it until they eventually get the message and move on also.
another useful idea for the dating site pussy hound, is to set up a shell facebook account, maybe under an assumed name. most filipinas now have facebook accounts and will happily give the details to you. this way you will be often able to confirm the age details given on dia (important for there are plenty of **** girls on dia) and see a lot more photos of the target. you will also find a mine of further cuties amongst her friends and i have had a few successes by cold contacting a likely looking lass with a friend request and a complimentary message.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1125944]The one real drawback with DIA (and other dating sites) girls, is getting rid of them afterward.[/QUOTE]The ones that really scare me, are the ones that profess their undying love to me without even seeing me on cam. I have a few DIA girls that have told me they love me and they will not be talked out of feeling that way. I have told them that I am not looking for a wife, or a long term girlfriend, that I only want to have my fun with them and as many other girls as I can. Still, they tell me they will not give up on loving me. :eek:
There is one, however, that I don't mind hearing this from. This is because she is one of those older women someone was talking about earlier. She has promised to help find me as many young girls as I can stand. All the while, she claims that she will fuck me so much herself, that I may not be able to handle any other girls. She has even stated that she would be willing to try some lesbian acts with any woman that I choose, as well as help to find virgins, and teach them how to please me. If this is all true, how could I possibly turn it down? :cool:
I still have my doubts. But I will give it a try. :D
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No wet dream, not web site copy, I know it sounds like a tall tale. Maybe next one I can try to record. I use skype so I would have to research this. Just asking for advise.
[QUOTE=Botaki; 1125344]"de-virginize over the phone". Men, from which porn-site did you copy this lines? Or writing down a wet dream of yours?
If not, pm me please the YM adress and I do her in real soon, brother. Just to help you.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Exchange of mail
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1125695]I say this as recently I was exchanging some emails with a very nice girl I know in Bangkok. We meet every time I visit. By mistake she sent me an email with a cc to about 200 other guys. All clearly europeans, and I'm sure they werent just "chatmates ". Anyways I'm sure paths and condoms have crossed many times with same girls.[/QUOTE]I don't normally write in this forum but I always like to read about the experiences of fellow mongerers in the Philipinnes. The other day, out of the blue, I got an email from a girl I ment in Hong Kong a few years ago asking how I was and telling me that she missed me. Probably by mistake, I could see she sent the same message out to all her "friends". I replied with the usual comments and anticipated the receipt of another email. Yep. Next day the request came in for an urgent loan of US$100. You can't beat a tryer!
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Todays just about a few minutes ago, another one.
" (11:47:41 AM) Kristi M.
I don't have enough load to use mobile chatting, thank you Pxxxx I'm
Happy I give my virginity to you. And 1am here, try to call me at your time 9pm. Gudnyt honey?" This happened in eastern time.
How can I record Skype call, but only record her voice, not mine. Any ideas?
[QUOTE=Member #1088;1126064]No wet dream, not web site copy, I know it sounds like a tall tale. Maybe next one I can try to record. I use skype so I would have to research this. Just asking for advise.[/QUOTE]
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DIA etc
I'm trying a few of the tactics suggested here. One girl asked me if I was really bad.
Or just pretending. It seems to work. I really can't be bothered with the relationship ones.
Huge turn off!
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[QUOTE Member #1088 How can I record Skype call, but only record her voice, not mine. Any ideas? [/QUOTE]You can use a thing called Vodburner, it's a brilliant app designed for skype. It is great for recording video as well as audio and is very easy to use. Not sure if you can only record one side of the conversation, but it has an editing facility so you could probably edit out your side.
It used to have a link to it through skype itself, in the 'tools' section, but I just tried to find it and its not there. Maybe its in the tools subsection 'extra's', but mine is grey'd out for some reason. But just google it and you'll find a link.
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Open source software such as Audacity allows manipulation of sound files (mp3, wav.)
[url]http://audacity.sourceforge.net/[/url]
[QUOTE=Bonker04; 1126294][QUOTE Member #1088 How can I record Skype call, but only record her voice, not mine. Any ideas? [/QUOTE]You can use a thing called Vodburner, it's a brilliant app designed for skype. It is great for recording video as well as audio and is very easy to use. Not sure if you can only record one side of the conversation, but it has an editing facility so you could probably edit out your side.
It used to have a link to it through skype itself, in the 'tools' section, but I just tried to find it and its not there. Maybe its in the tools subsection 'extra's', but mine is grey'd out for some reason. But just google it and you'll find a link.[/QUOTE]
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Does anyone know.
Anyone know Marife Mardoquio (at; yahoo. Com) See pics attached. She told me it was her. I don't believe her. Anyone run into her?
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Why don't you just ask to see her on webcam?
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[QUOTE=Hatguy;1126679]Anyone know Marife Mardoquio (at; yahoo. Com) See pics attached. She told me it was her. I don't believe her. Anyone run into her?[/QUOTE]Looks to be genuine photos. Has a lot of tats for a Filipina. Has a profile at [url]http://www.myspace.com/543568781.[/url] Why don't you believe it to be her?
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Sublty or Miscommunication?
Girl on dia lives in Quezon City and I stay in makati. YM convrsation:
She tells me that the taxi to come meet me is 2000p. I say no it's not it's only 150p. She then says I'm a cheap guy and never wants to talk to me again, because I only want to give her 150. Was she being subtle to the fact that to fuck her it was 2000p. If, so why can't these girls just spell it out? I really was a bit lost on this one.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1126799]Girl on dia lives in Quezon City and I stay in makati. YM convrsation:
She tells me that the taxi to come meet me is 2000p. I say no it's not it's only 150p. She then says I'm a cheap guy and never wants to talk to me again, because I only want to give her 150. Was she being subtle to the fact that to fuck her it was 2000p. If, so why can't these girls just spell it out? I really was a bit lost on this one. [/QUOTE]Nope, you did the right thing. In my experience they always ask for stupid money for cab only to ask for it again latter. I normally say 500 peso taxi money if she leaves that far for both up and back trip. At night it may cost more for them to get back. Fact is she probably will not even take a taxi but other transport and still get to you 4 hours late.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1126799]Was she being subtle to the fact that to fuck her it was 2000p. If, so why can't these girls just spell it out? I really was a bit lost on this one.[/QUOTE]This could be so.
Happened to me in Cebu City already that the girls was asking 1, 500 php "taxi-money" after 1 pop w / her.
I gave her 500 php for Taxi because at this time I did not understand that these 1, 500 php were meant as a "provision" for shagging her.
Ram
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[QUOTE=Mc Don;1126804]Nope, you did the right thing. In my experience they always ask for stupid money for cab only to ask for it again latter. I normally say 500 peso taxi money if she leaves that far for both up and back trip. At night it may cost more for them to get back. Fact is she probably will not even take a taxi but other transport and still get to you 4 hours late.[/QUOTE]So was she just being a ****? She sure sounded like one, when I told her I was staying next to Burgos."why don't you stay at shangra la or dusit"?
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[QUOTE=Rampana; 1126831]This could be so.
Happened to me in Cebu City already that the girls was asking 1, 500 php "taxi-money" after 1 pop w / her.
I gave her 500 php for Taxi because at this time I did not understand that these 1, 500 php were meant as a "provision" for shagging her.
Ram[/QUOTE]There are some girls who give sex for free. Maybe some dinners and some gifts and some taxi money (Remember they never take taxi, Usually jeepneys which are dirt cheap)
Most girls need money. Any decent girl who does not ask for money probably needs to be dated for a while before you get into her pants. All girls hyperinflate the taxi charges thinking that you do not know the normal transport charges. One time the a girl I met in DIA wanted 5000 Pesos for coming to Manila. I laughed at her saying I am a frequent visitor to AC. Ultimately she came without any pre payment.
I always give money for good service from these girls. It clears my conscience and ofcourse helps these poor girls.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1126846]I always give money for good service from these girls. It clears my conscience and ofcourse helps these poor girls.[/QUOTE]How much? You give less money in smaller cities
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Cams and Photos
Do you guys always jump to cam chat before meeting girls just to make sure the photo is really her?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1126799]Was she being subtle to the fact that to fuck her it was 2000p. If, so why can't these girls just spell it out? I really was a bit lost on this one.[/QUOTE]She was tying to not look like a hooker and did not want the money given to her directly associated with sex. Filipinas rarely just spell it out and get right to the point.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1126842]She sure sounded like one, when I told her I was staying next to Burgos."why don't you stay at shangra la or dusit"?[/QUOTE]Red flag #2. If it's me, I'm done with this broad. Because, ummmm, how many willing women are there in Phils?
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Yes, I certainly do.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1126854]Do you guys always jump to cam chat before meeting girls just to make sure the photo is really her?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1126850]How much? You give less money in smaller cities[/QUOTE]No, Generally I give 1000 Pesos per day irrespective of where I meet her. Ofcourse the food and some shopping gifts are extra.
One girl who stayed with me for 5 nights was flabberghasted when I gave her 5000 Pesos saying I gave her too much money. I guess she does not know the going rate for Putas. She did service me 24/7 with multiple times a day.
She was so poor that she came with only two dresses apart from some woirn out shorts and tops. I did take her shopping and bought her some outfits.
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1126846]I always give money for good service from these girls. It clears my conscience and ofcourse helps these poor girls.[/QUOTE]I agree.
I visit the Philippines for one reason only, and that is to fuck girls. I see it as a commercial transaction. There is a stigma behind prostitution and generally girls do not like being referred to as prostitutes but because of the social and economic environment in the Philippines girls will sleep with you for some sort of financial reward.
When I am contacting DIA girls I want a fuck on the first date. I can't be done with all this courting ritual. I make it quite clear that I just want fun and not a serious relationship. I never directly say that I will give them x pesos if they sleep with me. But I do make it quite clear that they can expect some sort of financial gain if they produce the goods so to speak. Basically I want a guaranteed fuck if I meet them. So for example I might tell them I can take them shopping. Personally I hate shopping so after I shag them I give them some money "to go shopping". About 70 per cent of the girls I meet do not even mention the money side. If they do it is on the lines of: "what is your gift to me?" My reply is "chocolate" and,"I will take you shopping."
The point is that I always give them money but explain it is for taxi, milk for their kid, food, or whatever, and not for fucking their brains out. The amount I give depends on the girl and circumstances, and may generally be 500 to 1000 pesos for an afternoon shag, and 1000 to 1500 pesos for an overnight stay. I may also give them 100 or 150 pesos for a taxi.
Above all I treat them with the utmost respect and very courteously. This pays dividends because I get referrals from them and some of them arrange dates for me with their sisters, cousins, friends. Again, a guaranteed shag.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1126842]So was she just being a ****? She sure sounded like one, when I told her I was staying next to Burgos."why don't you stay at shangra la or dusit"?[/QUOTE]Don't you think you sort of answered your own question here? She tells you she is from QC, yet know makati well. Knows of Burgos and what goes on there and who goes there, knows the nice hotels (she obviously has visited) and she questions your accommodation choice. She has you pegged for a paying 'customer' and will try to get as much as she can from you.
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Tiger Airlines
Yesterday I tried booking Tiger from AC to Sing and my credit card was refused. After trying few cards I decided to call the hot line in Oz. To my surprise the girl on the other side started asking me why I go to phil, what do I do there, how many times I have been, where do I stay and so on so on. This is while she was booking the flight for me. I found it odd, but once she started talking about Manila I quickly figured they have patched me to the Makati office where Tiger I believe has its customer service desk. So the process takes about 20 odd minutes and I explain to her that I regularly travel to phils on business and I usually stay in Makati or Tarlac so depending where I am I use whichever airport. Today in my inbox I am still waiting for the booking confirmation from Tiger but I have an email from her. She has send few photos one in her uniform and is now asking if I want to see her on my next trip. LOL, I would love to but this one has too much info on me, my real name, address in OZ, email possibly even credit card details. I just wrote her a nice email back that I am married and that I am not interested but I will put her in touch with one of my buddies next time he is in phils so hopefully that's the end of it. I know I can get her in trouble if I want to, I can even blackmail her but I am not interested. I guess the moral of the story is there is PLENTY of pussy to go around, you sometimes don't even need to chase.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1126842]So was she just being a ****? She sure sounded like one, when I told her I was staying next to Burgos."why don't you stay at shangra la or dusit"?[/QUOTE]If a girl from Quezon City asked you why you're not staying in Shangri La or Dusit it's highly likely she is a pro who is more interested in having a good time on your dime than pleasing you. Is her name Yvee? Sounds like her style.
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I hate you!
I had been chatting with this Filipina in Manila for months. I tell her when I would be in her area days ahead of time. When I arrive I call her from the hotel and tell her to meet me at a certain time. She pushed for a later time that evening. I agree. Time draws near and I call her. She says she doesn't have taxi money. I tell her to borrow it and I'll reimburse her. Hours go by and she still hasn't showed. I call again and she is still looking for taxi money. I tell her to forget it. We can meet another time. She persists that she is trying to find the money but I have already moved on to other options. So, she finally agrees to meet some other time. A week after I leave her area she pops up online asking where I was now. I told her I had already left. She gets mad and says,"OMG! You didn't call me." I told her I had called her but she couldn't come."You have to make effort with me. I hate you!" she retorted. I think she needs a dose of reality. There is way too much pussy in the Philippines to be making an effort to lay any one particular impoverished slum dweller. I noticed that she is online daily. Mongers must be making big promises to her. She certainly has great expectations.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1127054]I had been chatting with this Filipina in Manila for months. I tell her when I would be in her area days ahead of time. When I arrive I call her from the hotel and tell her to meet me at a certain time. She pushed for a later time that evening. I agree. Time draws near and I call her. She says she doesn't have taxi money. I tell her to borrow it and I'll reimburse her. Hours go by and she still hasn't showed. I call again and she is still looking for taxi money. I tell her to forget it. We can meet another time. She persists that she is trying to find the money but I have already moved on to other options. So, she finally agrees to meet some other time. A week after I leave her area she pops up online asking where I was now. I told her I had already left. She gets mad and says,"OMG! You didn't call me." I told her I had called her but she couldn't come."You have to make effort with me. I hate you!" she retorted. I think she needs a dose of reality. There is way too much pussy in the Philippines to be making an effort to lay any one particular impoverished slum dweller. I noticed that she is online daily. Mongers must be making big promises to her. She certainly has great expectations.[/QUOTE]Totally right. This is why having plan a be see the e f g are necessary. Invest too much time an attention on one and they get to feel a certain power. I'm going to Phils soon, but as flight arrives at 3. 30 I have one booked for 6am (yes mad I know but the only way I can sleep after a late flight is with a morning bonk). If she's doesn't show theres always a 10am booked as back up. Don't let these ladies play you around like a strong on a yoyo. Give them a time to meet you, an if you don't, delete and move on. Its not like theres a shortage.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1126854]Do you guys always jump to cam chat before meeting girls just to make sure the photo is really her?[/QUOTE]Well what would you prefer Amjeck. You see her first on cam and get an idea that the photos is her, she has not put on weight and is not a chubby (apologies to any monger who prefers that flavour but not mine) or worse is a LB.
Alternatively you can wait until she meets you in hotel lobby or mall where chances are you will find it hard to escape and may end up doing the dirty deed regardless. LB excluded of course.
Me? I know what I prefer
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1126929]She was so poor that she came with only two dresses apart from some woirn out shorts and tops. I did take her shopping and bought her some outfits.[/QUOTE]I don't mind giving my lady money so she can go shopping, but I HATE shopping so much, the woman would have to pay ME to walk around, waiting outside dressing rooms, etc.
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy;1127243]I don't mind giving my lady money so she can go shopping, but I HATE shopping so much, the woman would have to pay ME to walk around, waiting outside dressing rooms, etc.[/QUOTE]So don't wait outside the dressing room. Go in and help her out of her clothes. Oh, and into the new clothes. :D
Or, you could always chat up some of the sales ladies.
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DIA Les be friends
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/EDRICH[/url]
+RHOSYN. Html.
Age 25, from Rizal.
LOVE TO HAVE FUN.
TRAVELLING.
CLUBBING.
MEET GENEROUS MAN LOL.
MEETING GIRLS ALSO
SOMEONE WHO CAN GIVE ME WHAT I WANT.
SOMEONE WHO CAN BRING ME TO HIS TRAVEL ADVENTURE.
SOMEONE WHO CAN INTRODUCE ME TO A WOMAN WHO LIKES WOMAN FOR FUN.
SOMEONE WHO IS GENEROUS FOR A LADY LIKE ME. (LOL)
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Edrich Rhosyn
No wonder she is into girls. After all she look a bit like a geezer;). Isn't Edrich a mans name?
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1127452]No wonder she is into girls. After all she look a bit like a geezer;). Isn't Edrich a mans name?[/QUOTE]Watch out her cheeks.
She most probably seems to be a LB in my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy;1127243]I don't mind giving my lady money so she can go shopping, but I HATE shopping so much, the woman would have to pay ME to walk around, waiting outside dressing rooms, etc.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I am tad unusual but I enjoy shopping with a cutie as I tend to buy her micro mini skirts, heels and t backs plus other similar normal clothes :D She is happy, I am happy and who gives a toss about the credit card! Even sex toy shopping is fun with a cutie, and of course as already mentioend there are a few cuties in the sales team
But for normal shopping trips. No way, boring :eek:
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1127641]Maybe I am tad unusual but I enjoy shopping with a cutie as I tend to buy her micro mini skirts, heels and t backs plus other similar normal clothes. She is happy, I am happy and who gives a toss about the credit card! Even sex toy shopping is fun with a cutie, and of course as already mentioend there are a few cuties in the sales team
But for normal shopping trips. No way, boring. [/QUOTE]I agree. What I've done in the past is tell the little hottie I'm with that if say a skimpy skirt is 500pesos and she can talk the price down then she can keep whatever money she saves. Eg, if it costs 500psp and she gets it for 400 then she can keep the 100psp to do what ever she wants with.
I've done this many a time and they usualy end up taking me to the movies or something anyways.
Win win situation me thinks.
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[QUOTE=Mortman; 1125432]DIA Guide.
Hopefully this is useful to those not familiar with DIA. I have just started trying to find new girls ready for my next trip in June. I have a regular stable of about half a dozen DIA girls in the Philippines that I always see, but you can't beat new blood! [/QUOTE]Everything you wrote is sooooo correct. I'm also an addicted user of DIA to arrange meet-ups. Its very exciting. Me too will be back in June, dividing my time between Cebu and Makati with only one target. Meet as much as possible DIA contacts, and man that are quite a number. Using the search method on DIA, I am very selective when it comes to beauty, and only contact the most beautiful girls being found. Have had great experience this way.
At this time I am already meeting with an absolute gorgeous Thai lady, working as a supervisor (non-worker in the bar area) in a restuarant chain. She always insist to drop my load inside her and give her a baby. But that is another story.
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DIA. Second Go Around
Okay, here we go again. I'll be back in Manila on 9 March, and have followed the advice for punters on the board: be brutally honest in the profile to keep chica expectations in check, start the chat at least a few weeks before the meeting to ensure success, blow off cousins, friends, sisters, brothers, etc. As soon as they emerge as a potential third wheel. Looks like I'll have at least three dates. Will keep you all posted.
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I'm looking forward to it as well. Going to be careful with them though. Many thanks to the people who PMed me and gave VERY helpful advice.
Looking forward to this trip indeed!
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I'm up to five potential dates now. Things are looking up.
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[QUOTE=Sinning Desi;1128725]I'm up to five potential dates now. Things are looking up.[/QUOTE]Always have Plan A, B, C, D etc as potential dates can always be no shows once you arrive SD. Always have a back up date. Problem comes when they are all on time (rare I know for pinays but it has happened)
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Always: Plans A-D are to go to P. Burgos, Havana Club or MBC. The problem is that after so many years of mongering, the actual sex act is not nearly as much fun as the "hunt". I always want to see if I still have some mojo with the ladies. In the Philippines, kind of liking shooting fish in a barrel, I know, but it's enough of an illusion. That said, I'll take the guaranteed closing at Plans A-D over nothing at all.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1128790]Always have Plan A, B, C, D etc as potential dates can always be no shows once you arrive SD. Always have a back up date. Problem comes when they are all on time (rare I know for pinays but it has happened)[/QUOTE]
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Any experience with any of these?
Lining up the honeys for my next trip to Manila, I came across the following ladies:
1. 23 years old, works as a receptionist in a hotel in AC, has a 6 year old daughter so started early, and claims to be lesbian. YM name pathrixhia. She has offered to bring her friend with her to Manila and spend some quality time with me.
2. A more business-type woman by the name of Regina. Wildly into lingerie, especially a brand called Wicked Weasel.
Any guys have any experience with any of these? If regulars to Manila have an absolute firecracker who would like a night at Peninsula, do drop me a PM.
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[QUOTE=Sinning Desi;1128846]Always: Plans A-D are to go to P. Burgos, Havana Club or MBC. The problem is that after so many years of mongering, the actual sex act is not nearly as much fun as the "hunt". I always want to see if I still have some mojo with the ladies. In the Philippines, kind of liking shooting fish in a barrel, I know, but it's enough of an illusion. That said, I'll take the guaranteed closing at Plans A-D over nothing at all.[/QUOTE]So true! One of the major drawbacks of mongering is that it quickly kills the novelty of sex. It always ends with putting your cock in a puss and pumping until some stale yellow fluid leaks out followed by a feeling of extreme weakness.
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Well, things are lining up quickly and well. I have 3 committed to meet (let's see if they show) , one that is slightly older / slash desperate, who I am busy wooing online, and a final one that is very well educated and a tougher nut to crack. Persevere, persevere. Boy, this is fun.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1129124]So true! One of the major drawbacks of mongering is that it quickly kills the novelty of sex. It always ends with putting your cock in a puss and pumping until some stale yellow fluid leaks out followed by a feeling of extreme weakness.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Traveller China; 1129007]Lining up the honeys for my next trip to Manila, I came across the following ladies:
1. 23 years old, works as a receptionist in a hotel in AC, has a 6 year old daughter so started early, and claims to be lesbian. YM name pathrixhia. She has offered to bring her friend with her to Manila and spend some quality time with me.
2. A more business-type woman by the name of Regina. Wildly into lingerie, especially a brand called Wicked Weasel.
Any guys have any experience with any of these? If regulars to Manila have an absolute firecracker who would like a night at Peninsula, do drop me a PM. [/QUOTE]TC.
Well if she likes WW. Is not lingerie per se IMHO apart from great g strings (bikinis are fantastic). She has taste IMHO LOL.
Try her at [url]www.honour.co.uk[/url]. Now that is decent stuff IMHO but others tend to disagree :D
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Patrhixiah
Be carefull with the so called 'girl' Patrhixah; it would be a medical wonder if she has a daughter; she is a shemale / ladyboy, I invited 'her' to my hotel in angeles and saw she had something extra, so I threw her out of my room within 5 seconds and reported 'her' to hotel security.
I don't have any problems with shemales / ladyboys, but I do have problems with people lying about it (I asked her before, because I did not trust her 100%).
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1129213]TC.
Well if she likes WW. Is not lingerie per se IMHO apart from great g strings (bikinis are fantastic). She has taste IMHO LOL.
Try her at.
[url]www.honour.co.uk[/url]
Now that is decent stuff IMHO but others tend to disagree. [/QUOTE]
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Tagged
Take a look at the pix someone posted on Tagged. I deleted the profile by accident so I cannot tell you the name but it is supposed to be a woman.
Amazing that she / he / it would think that someone would be attracted to her / him / it based on the pix.
Amazing that she / he / it actually had male "Friends" on her / his / it's profile
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar; 1129297]Take a look at the pix someone posted on Tagged. I deleted the profile by accident so I cannot tell you the name but it is supposed to be a woman.
Amazing that she / he / it would think that someone would be attracted to her / him / it based on the pix.
Amazing that she / he / it actually had male "Friends" on her / his / it's profile[/QUOTE]Gender origins could be debatable indeed, but, alas, this is Asia. So anything can be at some point.
In some shots looks like an asian michael Jackson type of surgery!
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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1129331]In some shots looks like an asian michael Jackson type of surgery![/QUOTE]That was my first impression that someone photoshoped Michael Jackson face to someone else's body and made these pictures.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1129124] .. pumping until some stale yellow fluid leaks out followed by a feeling of extreme weakness.[/QUOTE]You ought to see a doctor mate. My fluid is so fresh, you can almost see the little spermy blighters doing handsprings as they come out:).
You do realize that that feeling of emptiness should be in the ball bag and not the bladder!
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar; 1129297]Take a look at the pix someone posted on Tagged. I deleted the profile by accident so I cannot tell you the name but it is supposed to be a woman.
Amazing that she / he / it would think that someone would be attracted to her / him / it based on the pix.
Amazing that she / he / it actually had male "Friends" on her / his / it's profile[/QUOTE]Not from Samar, by any chance. Looks a lot like a 'girl' on DIA who has a really 'in your face' profile and when I pointed out that such a profile would put off guys and, in any case, she looked like a ladyboy with a good boob job, she blacklisted me for some reason:D.
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Dia
There are tonnes of Ladyboys on DIA. I don't know how they can call themselves female and remain on there. There should be some kind of OTHER selection available for them. Cut out all the confusion and save blokes the surprise if they mistakenly pick up one.
A friend of mine said her brother was making out all night with a chick. They ended up back at her place and he found out the hard way (pun intended) the horrible truth. Needless to say this Aussie bloke was seen running down the street with his jeans in one hand. Talk about a crying game moment!
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1129354]You ought to see a doctor mate. My fluid is so fresh, you can almost see the little spermy blighters doing handsprings as they come out.
You do realize that that feeling of emptiness should be in the ball bag and not the bladder! [/QUOTE]Sometimes I void the ball sack, sometimes the bladder. The older you get the less it matters. ;)
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[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1129362]There are tonnes of Ladyboys on DIA. I don't know how they can call themselves female and remain on there. There should be some kind of OTHER selection available for them. Cut out all the confusion and save blokes the surprise if they mistakenly pick up one.
A friend of mine said her brother was making out all night with a chick. They ended up back at her place and he found out the hard way (pun intended) the horrible truth. Needless to say this Aussie bloke was seen running down the street with his jeans in one hand. Talk about a crying game moment! [/QUOTE]Some of them are decent enough to actually state that they are a ladyboy in their profile. But many try to pass themselves off as female. Personally, I don't care what their sexual preference is, as long as they leave me alone. Unfortunately, some don't pay attention the the line in my profile that states I will block and report ladyboys that "show interest" or post messages to me. I think the DIA admin should ban the ones that insist on attempt to deceive straight men by insisting they are females.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1129371]Some of them are decent enough to actually state that they are a ladyboy in their profile. But many try to pass themselves off as female. Personally, I don't care what their sexual preference is, as long as they leave me alone. Unfortunately, some don't pay attention the the line in my profile that states I will block and report ladyboys that "show interest" or post messages to me. I think the DIA admin should ban the ones that insist on attempt to deceive straight men by insisting they are females.[/QUOTE]This is why I insist on C2C (webcam) before I decide if Iw ant to meet them, some will never give a cam and those tend to be rejected by me. This will lessen your chances of surprise on the night but I agree if DIA has a separate section for LBs it would be easier and better
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Who's your daddy?
I've been taking the advice of generous posters here and started chatting with girls on DIA. So far, so good and my contact list is beginning to grow. In the process of getting to know the girls I ask simple questions. One of them is, 'what do your parents do for a living? ' On two separate occasions, their answer has been,"my father is a policeman." For all the right reasons, I get very polite with those girls and simply fade out of their social network.
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[QUOTE=Chicochulo; 1129584]I've been taking the advice of generous posters here and started chatting with girls on DIA. So far, so good and my contact list is beginning to grow. In the process of getting to know the girls I ask simple questions. One of them is, 'what do your parents do for a living? ' On two separate occasions, their answer has been,"my father is a policeman." For all the right reasons, I get very polite with those girls and simply fade out of their social network.
CC[/QUOTE]Chico.
While I would tend to agree one of the best times I had long time back was with a policeman's daughter, a very nuaghty girl who loved a threesome and Greek. She promised never to tell her dad of the naughty things I encouraged / taught her to do. And I am still alive today.
But I would normally err on the side of caution but sometimes if you are good to the girl her dad being in the police could help. I think LOL
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DIA Top Gun
So here's the one I'm going to try for on DIA. I supposedly well educated high-flyer, blah, blah. Will keep you all posted
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LadyBoys are welcome on DIA
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1129362]There are tonnes of Ladyboys on DIA. I don't know how they can call themselves female and remain on there. There should be some kind of OTHER selection available for them. Cut out all the confusion and save blokes the surprise if they mistakenly pick up one.[/QUOTE]DIA likes Ladyboys if you try to block and report one the following message pops up.
[Quote=DIA]LadyBoys are welcome in our site. You cannot report someone for being LadyBoy to us. You can however block this member from sending you messages if you wish.
Some LadyBoys choose to be enlisted as males, some as females, and this is OK with us. We have no plan of introducing a "third gender" for LadyBoys. If you do not think our policy is acceptable, this site is not for you. Sorry. [/quote]You've just got to be very careful when pulling girls from DIA, I find that most of them will admit to being Ladyboy if you ask.
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[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1129362]There are tonnes of Ladyboys on DIA. I don't know how they can call themselves female and remain on there. There should be some kind of OTHER selection available for them. Cut out all the confusion and save blokes the surprise if they mistakenly pick up one.
A friend of mine said her brother was making out all night with a chick. They ended up back at her place and he found out the hard way (pun intended) the horrible truth. Needless to say this Aussie bloke was seen running down the street with his jeans in one hand. Talk about a crying game moment! [/QUOTE]His fault, really. Sure photos can be deceiving but it should not be difficult to figure it out straightaway on the first meeting. Especially in the Phils.
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[QUOTE=Finrod;1129659]His fault, really. Sure photos can be deceiving but it should not be difficult to figure it out straightaway on the first meeting. Especially in the Phils.[/QUOTE]You would meet with them? Wow. Its such a turn off with me that I'm thinking I won't bother
With any DIAs at all. Call me intolerant if you want. Don't care.
Hatguy
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[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1129642]DIA likes Ladyboys if you try to block and report one the following message pops up.
You've just got to be very careful when pulling girls from DIA, I find that most of them will admit to being Ladyboy if you ask. [/QUOTE]DIA also likes scammers. If you try to report someone who is asking you to send money a message threatening to ban you if you've ever sent money pops up. The bottom line is that you're on your own when you go looking for meat on these websites. It is a "free" site because they make money from advertising and selling any info they get from you like your email address. Proceed with caution.
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Buyer Beware
Exactly. Look, either you can play the game or you can't. It's always buyer beware, no matter what the "transaction". When bringing a girl back to the room, don't keep extra money, watches, etc. lying around; When visiting dodgy parts of town, leave the bling at home; when trying to score free sex with a girl, don't be surprised if someone is trying to scam you just as you're trying to "scam" them out of their clothes. When you think you have a girl, do your homework ahead of time to make sure its not a dude. Don't be naive when sending money to anyone on these sites: it's likely that you'll never see the money, and likely not the pussy, either, again. Be cynical, be aware, be prepared.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1129693]DIA also likes scammers. If you try to report someone who is asking you to send money a message threatening to ban you if you've ever sent money pops up. The bottom line is that you're on your own when you go looking for meat on these websites. It is a "free" site because they make money from advertising and selling any info they get from you like your email address. Proceed with caution.[/QUOTE]
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So what is your strategy SD?
[QUOTE=Sinning Desi;1129619]So here's the one I'm going to try for on DIA. I supposedly well educated high-flyer, blah, blah. Will keep you all posted[/QUOTE]So what is your strategy SD? Are you up front and tell them that you are just after a casual no strings shag or do you lure them with promises of a bf / gf relationship and fuck with their emotions as well as their pussy?
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Good question. My DIA profile is pretty clear about no marriage, etc. She sounds pretty skeptical on the YM exchanges we've had about my intentions, so she's no dummy. Already told me she won't be putting out. It might be we'll have coffee and part ways.
[QUOTE=Python75;1129835]So what is your strategy SD? Are you up front and tell them that you are just after a casual no strings shag or do you lure them with promises of a bf / gf relationship and fuck with their emotions as well as their pussy?[/QUOTE]
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Yes they do admit. And some of them are real attractive. If you feel secure about your sexuality then they should not be a threat to you. Accept them for what they are and like them or leave them.
[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1129642]DIA likes Ladyboys if you try to block and report one the following message pops up.
You've just got to be very careful when pulling girls from DIA, I find that most of them will admit to being Ladyboy if you ask.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1129675]You would meet with them? Wow. Its such a turn off with me that I'm thinking I won't bother
With any DIAs at all. Call me intolerant if you want. Don't care.
Hatguy[/QUOTE]With proper makeup and artful photography, even you can be fooled by the photo into meeting the girl. Which is why you need to try for the cam. But once you've seen for real, you will know as soon as you see them and then you can say thanks for wasting my time. I suppose you could ask it if there are any bangable sisters or cousins available. I am rarely fooled by a photo, but it did happen once. I sent the photo to a friend and he agreed with me that it would have fooled him too. Then he chewed me out for not getting on the cam. If you are so bothered by the risk, then you shouldn't be on DIA at all. That's OK, the other mongers using DIA would say hey less competition for me!
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Don't play with their emotions
[QUOTE=Python75;1129835]So what is your strategy SD? Are you up front and tell them that you are just after a casual no strings shag or do you lure them with promises of a bf / gf relationship and fuck with their emotions as well as their pussy?[/QUOTE]You have to be careful with these girls. Don't try to make them think you will be their bf if all you plan on is a shagging. There have been news reports of girls committing suicide because the man they thought was their bf, was not sincere. On DIA, my profile states very clearly that I am not interested in marriage or long term relationships. Initially, I thought this would cause most girls to not want to even respond to my interest or messages. But I have so many that I correspond with regularly, that I can hardly keep up with them. In order to shag all of my contacts, I would need to spend a month or more in the Philippines (which would be alright with me). :D There are several girls that have stated how much they love me after just a few messages. When I receive these type of messages, I tell them that I do not want to hurt them, but that I will be involved with other girls as well as them. For most of the girls, this does not seem to phase them. A few have told me how little they like that idea, and they stop writing to me. I don't really care, because there are so many more out there just waiting to spread their legs for any foreigner that will have them. A few of the girls that have actually read my profile, actually told me that they would love to be shagged by me, and would even introduce others as long as they were the first. To which I happily agree to. Of course they all will be first (after the last one). :D
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[QUOTE=Eddieb;1129854]If you feel secure about your sexuality then they should not be a threat to you.[/QUOTE]I would take this a step further, and say that if you are that bothered by the idea of ladyboys or gays, then the Philippines (and many other countries) is not the place for you to go. I admit, that I was bothered by them on my first trip there. But I quickly realized that they are like my mother used to tell me about bees,"if you don't bother them, they won't bother you." Especially if you have a sweet little spinner on your arm or lap!
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You have to be careful with these girls. Don't try to make them think you will be their bf if all you plan on is a shagging. Were the first.
Well said indeed. This is the essence of what 'simple' means. Be a gentleman and state your intentions clearly. The few that do run after they find out you're just interested in good shagging are of no consequence. I had one girl act insulted with my offer to come to my hotel room. Then 5 minutes later, she asked if she could meet me at the airport.
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[QUOTE=Chicochulo; 1129584]I've been taking the advice of generous posters here and started chatting with girls on DIA. So far, so good and my contact list is beginning to grow. In the process of getting to know the girls I ask simple questions. One of them is, 'what do your parents do for a living? ' On two separate occasions, their answer has been,"my father is a policeman." For all the right reasons, I get very polite with those girls and simply fade out of their social network.
CC[/QUOTE]On my next trip I'm hopefully going to go one better. And actually do a policewoman. . Working currently in Camp Crame waiting assignment to Cavite. Said she will come in uniform (I guess she meant she would arrive wearing it, but maybe she will come in it.) should be an entertaining afternoon!
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[QUOTE=Eddieb;1129854]Yes they do admit. And some of them are real attractive. If you feel secure about your sexuality then they should not be a threat to you. Accept them for what they are and like them or leave them.[/QUOTE]Excuse me, but that's total horse shit!
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Okay, can I play Devil's Advocate?
In your life, in your own country, do you tell gals upfront that you want to play and have no plan to get married?
A lot of women spend time landing the guy (s) of their dreams and a lot of guys spend time landing the next piece of booty, and sometimes the permanent booty. These norms are pretty much understood by most single adults in most cultures. And let's be honest, gals use the chance of sex, or the reality of sex, to dangle the hook.
I don't suggest deceiving women in any way, but I'm not one to reveal my carnal desires unnecessarily. Especially to someone who hasn't revealed to me that she wants access to my salary.
There's a hoot," you're too old, bald, smelly, but there is a chance you will support my extended family for the rest of your short live . Not to mention that I get a free pass to Dreamland. I just want to be honest."
BTW, I am certifiabbbbly single, so my white fibs might be easier than yours. X.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1130025]You have to be careful with these girls. Don't try to make them think you will be their bf if all you plan on is a shagging. There have been news reports of girls committing suicide because the man they thought was their bf, was not sincere. On DIA, my profile states very clearly that I am not interested in marriage or long term relationships. Initially, I thought this would cause most girls to not want to even respond to my interest or messages. But I have so many that I correspond with regularly, that I can hardly keep up with them. In order to shag all of my contacts, I would need to spend a month or more in the Philippines (which would be alright with me). :D There are several girls that have stated how much they love me after just a few messages. When I receive these type of messages, I tell them that I do not want to hurt them, but that I will be involved with other girls as well as them. For most of the girls, this does not seem to phase them. A few have told me how little they like that idea, and they stop writing to me. I don't really care, because there are so many more out there just waiting to spread their legs for any foreigner that will have them. A few of the girls that have actually read my profile, actually told me that they would love to be shagged by me, and would even introduce others as long as they were the first. To which I happily agree to. Of course they all will be first (after the last one). :D[/QUOTE]
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I'm more inclined to think your post has more of the equestrian excrement.
I will agree that the so-called lady boys can be quite aggressive and / or annoying. Duh, now you know how gals feel when guys come on too strong.
Warning, homophobics, they are physically men. Don't fk with them because they've been fkd with since they were teenagers, and they will kick your sorry homophophic arse. Possibly alone or maybe with all their high-heeled friends.
Usually a smile and a no thank you will do. But if they follow, calling out love calls, just walk faster. They will get the message. And they can't keep up with those heels. If you really get pinned, just ask them if they can introduce some naturally born ladies. When it comes to sexual drive they are just like normal men. Horny as hell.
I'm sure this post will allow my friends and antagonist alike to make disparaging comments. So be it. X.
Some of the most interesting people I've met are gay and they tend to have a lot of very hot femaie friends.
[QUOTE=Punter 127;1130165]Excuse me, but that's total horse shit![/QUOTE]
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I've kinda caused posting storm about these ladyboys. For that I apologize. Here in Japan theyre called.
New half" and they just don't follow you down the street yelling stuff etc. I may get lucky and
not have to deal with them at all. Thats what I'm hoping.
Theyre are a couple of girls mentioned here that members know who I will maybe meet with
doing your homework and getting advice from the boards is essential for this. Many thanks to all here.
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[QUOTE=X Man;1130168]Okay, can I play Devil's Advocate?[/QUOTE]Sure! Just make sure you wear the outfit complete with horns and a pitch fork! :D
[QUOTE]In your life, in your own country, do you tell gals upfront that you want to play and have no plan to get married?[/QUOTE]Nope! But then again, I don't chase after American women, because I already know they are all b*tches! :eek:
[QUOTE]I don't suggest deceiving women in any way, but I'm not one to reveal my carnal desires unnecessarily. Especially to someone who hasn't revealed to me that she wants access to my salary.[/QUOTE]Basically, that was the same point I was trying to get across X. And who needs them to reveal their desire for our salary? We already know that is what they all want!
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[QUOTE=X Man; 1130168]Okay, can I play Devil's Advocate?
In your life, in your own country, do you tell gals upfront that you want to play and have no plan to get married? [/QUOTE]You can't compare like with like, we all respond to and interact to our environment: the political, economic, social and cultural factors that determine the way we behave.
Set your DIA search to your own western country and the age group that girls are looking for are more in tune with what we as foreigners would expect. That is normally no more than 10 years older than the girl themselves, and then compare this with the age determiner of girls in the Fils.
Maybe I am cynical and have had my fingers burnt before, but my view is that the economic stability of the male as a mate has always played a part in any woman's choice of partner regardless of where in the world that woman is from.
A lot of these girls on DIA in the Fils genuinely want a way out and see foreigners as an escape route from their life of poverty; and it is a trade off. You are right X-man: the girls will overlook how bald, smelly, fat, ugly we are as long as we provide security for them and their extended family.
Sadly a lot of them are poorly educated, vulnerable and naive as to the true agenda of many members of this forum and that leads them wide open to exploitation. And it is this exploitation and deception that I have an issue with. Sure, there are of course many girls who are street wise as to what the foreigner wants and will accommodate those needs in return for material gain and attempt to exploit the foreigner.
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[QUOTE=X Man; 1130174]I'm more inclined to think your post has more of the equestrian excrement.
I will agree that the so-called lady boys can be quite aggressive and / or annoying. Duh, now you know how gals feel when guys come on too strong.
Warning, homophobics, they are physically men. Don't fk with them because they've been fkd with since they were teenagers, and they will kick your sorry homophophic arse. Possibly alone or maybe with all their high-heeled friends.
Usually a smile and a no thank you will do. But if they follow, calling out love calls, just walk faster. They will get the message. And they can't keep up with those heels. If you really get pinned, just ask them if they can introduce some naturally born ladies. When it comes to sexual drive they are just like normal men. Horny as hell.
I'm sure this post will allow my friends and antagonist alike to make disparaging comments. So be it. X.
Some of the most interesting people I've met are gay and they tend to have a lot of very hot femaie friends. [/QUOTE]You can think whatever you like, I really don't care what you think. But IMHO ladyboys are a freak of nature, as are the men that go with them.
Homophobic is a word that gays (and gay lovers) throw around to try and belittle anybody that doesn't like them, it has little are no effect on me.
Now if your sorry ass or your sorry ass 'high-heeled' lover boys would like to have a go at kicking my [i]'sorry homophobic arse'[/i] I'm readily available right here in Cebu.
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Exploitation & Deception Issues. Hmmmm
Loose your illustion gents! Everyman who reads / posts on this forum is into exploiting.
Women for sex (some just pay to ease their conscience). In Phils, the women are into exploiting men for money. Some are pros and some are amateurs. Deception is used by both for their given purposes (same in other societies also).
If you go to Phils often, you better get dam good at it! . LOL. Because they are!
[QUOTE=Python75; 1130449]You can't compare like with like, we all respond to and interact to our environment: the political, economic, social and cultural factors that determine the way we behave.
Set your DIA search to your own western country and the age group that girls are looking for are more in tune with what we as foreigners would expect. That is normally no more than 10 years older than the girl themselves, and then compare this with the age determiner of girls in the Fils.
Maybe I am cynical and have had my fingers burnt before, but my view is that the economic stability of the male as a mate has always played a part in any woman's choice of partner regardless of where in the world that woman is from.
A lot of these girls on DIA in the Fils genuinely want a way out and see foreigners as an escape route from their life of poverty; and it is a trade off. You are right X-man: the girls will overlook how bald, smelly, fat, ugly we are as long as we provide security for them and their extended family.
Sadly a lot of them are poorly educated, vulnerable and naive as to the true agenda of many members of this forum and that leads them wide open to exploitation. And it is this exploitation and deception that I have an issue with. Sure, there are of course many girls who are street wise as to what the foreigner wants and will accommodate those needs in return for material gain and attempt to exploit the foreigner. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1130455]You can think whatever you like, I really don't care what you think. But IMHO ladyboys are a freak of nature, as are the men that go with them.
Homophobic is a word that gays (and gay lovers) throw around to try and belittle anybody that doesn't like them, it has little are no effect on me.
Now if your sorry ass or your sorry ass 'high-heeled' lover boys would like to have a go at kicking my [i]'sorry homophobic arse'[/i] I'm readily available right here in Cebu.[/QUOTE]I guess you didn't get any last night. Save your hostilty dude, this is a website where freedom to express opinions means simply that we don't all agree about everything. Rebuttals threats and irrelevant aggression really aint needed.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1130470]I guess you didn't get any last night. Save your hostilty dude, this is a website where freedom to express opinions means simply that we don't all agree about everything. Rebuttals threats and irrelevant aggression really aint needed.[/QUOTE]Tell it to X Man he attack me, I only responded.
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Interesting DIA Profile!
Sexy, Cute and just turned 18!
Before sending me a message; READ MY PROFILE so you don't waste your time and my time! Thank you.
NO PINOYS or young guys please, I like older CAUCASIAN FOREIGNERS, sorry.
If you think you're old don't worry I just accept you for who you are as long as you aren't a cheapskate.
All I want is respect even if I'm sexy I'm not a bad girl. I'm sweet.
If you are interested maybe we can chat, but I don't want to waste my time.
If you are not interested in me stop sending me messages just to bother me.
Don't try to be romantic, I just want to have fun.
I am a very serious person.
I know there's a lots of liars here on this site.
If you aren't in Manila, don't waste my time with your travel fantasies please.
Forget about naughty cam chats if you can't afford to buy a ticket to Manila to see me in person.
THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY!
A realist:). I like her already. Looks a cutie as well. Might give her a spin as long as she is not too outrageously overpriced.
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[QUOTE=Cheapy; 1130456]Loose your illustion gents! Everyman who reads / posts on this forum is into exploiting.
Women for sex (some just pay to ease their conscience). In Phils, the women are into exploiting men for money. Some are pros and some are amateurs. Deception is used by both for their given purposes (same in other societies also).
If you go to Phils often, you better get dam good at it! . LOL. Because they are! [/QUOTE]Cheapy,
That's so cruel. You just burst mongers' bubble of illusion. Here everyone was thinking that they were getting laid because they're handsome foreigners. Some may have even told themselves they were being generous to the girls by paying. Now the whole faηade has been blown away. It's just a raw predator versus prey scenario. If you're not one you're the other. Everyone is involved in one big orgy of sexual and economic exploitation. I think I'll have a drink now Cheapy, as I watch lions taking down wildebeests on National Geographic. .
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1130551]Sexy, Cute and just turned 18!
Before sending me a message; READ MY PROFILE so you don't waste your time and my time! Thank you.
NO PINOYS or young guys please, I like older CAUCASIAN FOREIGNERS, sorry.
If you think you're old don't worry I just accept you for who you are as long as you aren't a cheapskate.
All I want is respect even if I'm sexy I'm not a bad girl. I'm sweet.
If you are interested maybe we can chat, but I don't want to waste my time.
If you are not interested in me stop sending me messages just to bother me.
Don't try to be romantic, I just want to have fun.
I am a very serious person.
I know there's a lots of liars here on this site.
If you aren't in Manila, don't waste my time with your travel fantasies please.
Forget about naughty cam chats if you can't afford to buy a ticket to Manila to see me in person.
THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY!
A realist. I like her already. Looks a cutie as well. Might give her a spin as long as she is not too outrageously overpriced. [/QUOTE]Finally a dose of good and needed reality.
The sweet but sad misguided ladies who post " he must come and meet my parent, I want a knight in shining armour, I want to walk on the beach forever with my soulmate crap " all copy this BS from each other. I always tell them that this site is called " Date in Asia " because its about dates. Not about puffy clouds and rose coloured dreams and holding hands for 3 years before the first kiss.
I hope your girl is hot and horny, Cunning, and I hope she tells all her Filipina friends to come and join the party
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Interesting profile number 35
Below 40years old men SORRY, I am NOT interested.
It's too HOT in here. Maybe I need somebody out there to give me a big hug and can kiss my kissable lips.
Hehe, pEaCe!
Hello, everyone MJ is here, my TREASURE is only that I am caring, Loving and good of going household chores. I like to stay at home all day and night long and I would love to eat hotdog.
Looking for someone who can spoil in everything I need and can feed me many more hotdog.
I'm not sure which is better. That she enjoys the MATURE guys or likes hotdogs!
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[QUOTE=Cheapy; 1130456]Loose your illustion gents! Everyman who reads / posts on this forum is into exploiting.
Women for sex (some just pay to ease their conscience). In Phils, the women are into exploiting men for money. Some are pros and some are amateurs. Deception is used by both for their given purposes (same in other societies also).
If you go to Phils often, you better get dam good at it! . LOL. Because they are! [/QUOTE]For sure nearly everyone on this forum exploits the situation in Fils, including me, and I freely admit that the only reason I visit that country is to fuck girls. What I don't do is exploit their vulnerability and naivety by inferring a serious relationship with them in order to get into their knickers. I believe in being up front with the girls in DIA and stating quite clearly that I only want fun and not a serious relationship.
Each to their own I guess.
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1130560]I think I'll have a drink now Cheapy, as I watch lions taking down wildebeests on National Geographic. .[/QUOTE]Hahaha
Just for kicks I did a tagged search for women in my area (in the US) about 10-15 years younger than me. Ugh. No way I could do that. I would have to be at sea. Years. No. Its better to keep my dignity, stay in the tall grass and wait for the young, slender windebeestes.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1130551]Sexy, Cute and just turned 18!
A realist. I like her already. Looks a cutie as well. Might give her a spin as long as she is not too outrageously overpriced. [/QUOTE]My Filipina gf and myself are looking for a third party. Seems she does qualify in all our desires. I wish to get her DIA nick, but I'm sure you do not wish to share.
Have fun!
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar; 1129297]Take a look at the pix someone posted on Tagged. I deleted the profile by accident so I cannot tell you the name but it is supposed to be a woman.
Amazing that she / he / it would think that someone would be attracted to her / him / it based on the pix.
Amazing that she / he / it actually had male "Friends" on her / his / it's profile[/QUOTE]It's Michael Jackson! (Second pic)
He went again to his plastic surgery but the doc missunderstood him and added some plastic tits.
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Tagged
Hi Everyone,
I have been reading a lot here and am grateful for the great info. My first trip, which will be for a duration of about 15-16 days, to Phils is coming up soon and I have received so much from you guys and will hopefully be able to add to the knowledge after going.
I did want to say that tagged, in my opinion, is the best free hunting ground. It is much easier to get the girls to come to you. Now, I am a decent looking guy and fairly young, but I really don't think it amounts to any serious edge. These girls are hot for foreigners. Period. I already have lined up enough dates to last 2 months in phils from tagged, so this gives me plenty of "plan be" options. And I have sorted a system to keep up with all these contacts by creating a special folder in my yahoo mail where I put thier profile I'd, city, and number. Helps me manage it all and keep it straight. Haha! Anyway, DIA has felt like a time waste in comparison, but have met a couple hotties from there as well.
Obviously, I will have to report the results after I physically meet these girls, so I will keep you posted.
-Cheers!
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Who is this Model?
I've seen her around. Great ta-ta's and a nice trim waist, but I've never seen her naked. Maybe she is / was under 18?
From some of her pics I estimate she is Chinese perhaps from Taiwan.
Pic #4, 6.8 and 9 are from "her" page on Filipinocupid (note the watermark). Haha. But. Could. It really be. Her with an online profile? OMG.
If you want to mess with him / her, send lots of msg and suggest you want to help with her college.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3047808[/url]
This is profile number 3047808 if the link don't work.
[quote]I'm a kind lady! Faithful and honest and very down to earth. And I'm go to a modeling industries. So if you have an offer guys! Hehe. Sometimes a little bit naughty. Well I'm true to my self, so I'll tell it.",)
I'm loking 4 a man or a lady! To be my friends. Are you that one. Because I'm lokin 4 a new thing. [/quote]
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[QUOTE=Asianatic; 1130635]My Filipina gf and myself are looking for a third party. Seems she does qualify in all our desires. I wish to get her DIA nick, but I'm sure you do not wish to share.
Have fun! [/QUOTE]No problem, this is a sharing forum. Just PM me and I'll give you her handle. Just don't want to give it openly so the poor girls inbox is as cram filled as her pink box hopefully will be by me shortly:D.
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That's Elly Tran Ha
[QUOTE=Jambo; 1130651]I've seen her around. Great ta-ta's and a nice trim waist, but I've never seen her naked. Maybe she is / was under 18?
From some of her pics I estimate she is Chinese perhaps from Taiwan. [/QUOTE]That's Elly Tran Ha. Not sure where she is from, though. Tineye works great for finding out stuff like this.
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[QUOTE=Night DJ;1130663]That's Elly Tran Ha. Not sure where she is from, though.[/QUOTE]Oh thanks thats all I needed! But I am crushed to think those mams are implants!
[quote]Sexy and hot Vietnamese model, Elly Tran Ha was recently invited to Korea for a Gravure photoshoot and she certainly stirred up the imagination of many.
The 22 year old is a half Vietnamese and half Chinese, born in America but recently moved back to Vietnam where she works as a model while furthering her studies.
She rose to fame in 2009 after some of her pictures were posted on a famous Vietnamese blog. Elly swiftly became an overnight internet sensation, especially in Russia, China and many others which now include Korea.
It's not hard to see why especially as Elly has an enviable cute face, petite and busty (F-cup) body. She stands at 1. 68m tall and a figure of 37-24-35 (bust-waist-hip). [/quote]
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[QUOTE=Richied99; 1130641]Hi Everyone,
I have been reading a lot here and am grateful for the great info. My first trip, which will be for a duration of about 15-16 days, to Phils is coming up soon and I have received so much from you guys and will hopefully be able to add to the knowledge after going.
I did want to say that tagged, in my opinion, is the best free hunting ground. It is much easier to get the girls to come to you. Now, I am a decent looking guy and fairly young, but I really don't think it amounts to any serious edge. These girls are hot for foreigners. Period. I already have lined up enough dates to last 2 months in phils from tagged, so this gives me plenty of "plan be" options. And I have sorted a system to keep up with all these contacts by creating a special folder in my yahoo mail where I put thier profile I'd, city, and number. Helps me manage it all and keep it straight. Haha! Anyway, DIA has felt like a time waste in comparison, but have met a couple hotties from there as well.
Obviously, I will have to report the results after I physically meet these girls, so I will keep you posted.
-Cheers![/QUOTE]Wow, you're on your first trip, haven't yet met a Pinay and think you have scoped out the freebie / dating landscape suitable well. All I can say is I hope you are right. Just be prepared to rewrite your script on a daily basis.
I will really look forward to your report. Being decent looking and young doesn't score you any extra points. In fact it maybe produce a few knockbacks LOL. One day you will see a hottie with a more " mature " guy and you will not know why hes with him and not you. And its not about money.
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I agree 100%. I won't know until the proof is in. From real results, but I will let you all know one way or another. And, I agree. Like I said in my post. I don't suspect me age (33) and my decent looks earn me any significant edge, but I am somewhat comfortable financially, so that is probably what will matter most to these hotties. Hahaha!
I will keep you posted. My trip is coming up soon, so I will do my best to keep track of the important details for you all!
-Cheers!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1130980]Wow, you're on your first trip, haven't yet met a Pinay and think you have scoped out the freebie / dating landscape suitable well. All I can say is I hope you are right. Just be prepared to rewrite your script on a daily basis.
I will really look forward to your report. Being decent looking and young doesn't score you any extra points. In fact it maybe produce a few knockbacks LOL. One day you will see a hottie with a more " mature " guy and you will not know why hes with him and not you. And its not about money. [/QUOTE]
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Volume versus safety
If you are seeing a long list of girls, I personally wouldn't give out too much info to potential dates. Many of these girls have open relationships with lazy pinoy. Your odds increase of meeting up with trouble when you focus too much outside of the gogo bars scene. There is always a threat for mischief. Not good for foreign visitor with loose pockets. Hence, handle long lists with care, young man. Like the joke about the old bull and the new one. The young bull says,"Let's run down to that herd of cows and get some. The old bull replied,"No, let's walk down there and get them all."
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[QUOTE=Richied99; 1130641]Hi Everyone,
Obviously, I will have to report the results after I physically meet these girls, so I will keep you posted.
-Cheers! [/QUOTE]We will eagerly await your reports.
Bring a camera too.
Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Richied99;1131034]I don't suspect me age (33) and my decent looks earn me any significant edge[/QUOTE]Well shoot, its been years since the girls told me "oh you gwapo boy!"
Later they usually accuse,"you butterfly boy"
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[QUOTE=Chicochulo;1131178]If you are seeing a long list of girls, I personally wouldn't give out too much info to potential dates. Many of these girls have open relationships with lazy pinoy. Your odds increase of meeting up with trouble when you focus too much outside of the gogo bars scene. There is always a threat for mischief. Not good for foreign visitor with loose pockets. Hence, handle long lists with care, young man. Like the joke about the old bull and the new one. The young bull says,"Let's run down to that herd of cows and get some. The old bull replied,"No, let's walk down there and get them all."[/QUOTE]This is a good warning. Also, be wary about the possibility that 2 girls from the same town actually know each other and are running a tandem tag team on you. I met a guy who had that happen to him in Bacolod. They set him up very nicely and he foolishly told each one the same lies, and they both turned up together and gave him a tongue lashing.
I know WR would see this as an opportunity (for a 3some) but in my friend's case, it was a wasted trip to Bacolod.
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[QUOTE=Jambo;1131190]Later they usually accuse,"you butterfly boy"[/QUOTE]I love that. A girl who goes with whoever pays her barfine trying to shame *me* for being promiscuous.
LOL, whatever, all part of the game. Just another bargirl to trying to put me on the defensive in hopes of gaining an advantage. I usually just ignore that crap, but if she keeps pushing?
"Yep, I'm a butterfly. Just like you, right?" Done and done, right there. Doesn't endear me much to the girl, but if she's pulling that shit, I've probably already scratched her as a possible barfine because of her attitude.
Remember: We're holding the cards, and the girls know it. When they throw this kind of shit at you, they're testing to see if *you* know you're holding the cards.
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Here's one to avoid
It looks like I baited one out of hiding. I wouldn't have picked it.
Gossip_thania. 21, Philippines
"We are not freak, so don't call us that way. . Your not handsome enough to have that attitude.."
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[QUOTE=Hatguy;1131245]Gossip_thania. 21, Philippines[/QUOTE]So we know to avoid, is that her DIA handle?
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[QUOTE=Jambo; 1131190]Well shoot, its been years since the girls told me "oh you gwapo boy!"
Later they usually accuse,"you butterfly boy"[/QUOTE]I love it when the girls call me a "butterfly"! I generally reply with something like "Nope! I'm a honey bee looking for something sweet to lick!" :D
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This has got to be the best statement I have seen in any girl's profile on DIA.
"friendship is like butt-cheeks, sometimes shit seperates them but they always get back together (wasn't me)" LMAO
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1131273]This has got to be the best statement I have seen in any girl's profile on DIA.
"friendship is like butt-cheeks, sometimes shit seperates them but they always get back together (wasn't me)" LMAO[/QUOTE]Hahaha. And you lot think bar girls are nuts.
Just seen a good one.
Yurichan from Cebu (a pretty 20 year old) starts her DIA profile 'I'm just an ordinary girl living an ordinary life. I'm simple yet deep only few were able to see the exact picture of me. I'm not forcing anyone to accept me as I am. I am what I am, hate me if you wish I don't give a damn about those crap. This is ME. '
And then for some reason known only to the mind of this poor, befuddled girl, she launches into extremely detailed recipes for 3 different kinds of pie. I sent her a message thanking her for the Buko pie recipe, which I might try, but I fear that the men in white coats have already dragged her away:D.
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[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1131250]So we know to avoid, is that her DIA handle?[/QUOTE]H+ere's another convincing one, that I was actually fooled into sending a message to. Must change the batteries in my lb detector:).
Goes by the name of crystal143.
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[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1131245]It looks like I baited one out of hiding. I wouldn't have picked it.
Gossip_thania. 21, Philippines
"We are not freak, so don't call us that way. . Your not handsome enough to have that attitude."[/QUOTE]I had a look at her profile a few days back. Then She sent me a Hello, today. And said " Hon I'm a LB, is that ok with you "
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[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1131250]So we know to avoid, is that her DIA handle?[/QUOTE]Sure is mate. I changed my profile to include a blurb about not being interested in them. I never said they were freaks. Just said NO LADYBOYS / BAKLAS PLEASE.
Guess it struck its nerve or something. Hehe
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Ladyboys
[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1131341]Sure is mate. I changed my profile to include a blurb about not being interested in them. I never said they were freaks. Just said NO LADYBOYS / BAKLAS PLEASE.
Guess it struck its nerve or something. Hehe[/QUOTE]I arrive in Manila on 16th March with a list of photos / contacts from Cherry Blossom. You have just got me double checking all the photos to make sure. I think I am all right, certailnly my principal contacts are all woman. Need to check out some of the backups.
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[QUOTE=Omall2008;1131357]I arrive in Manila on 16th March with a list of photos / contacts from Cherry Blossom. You have just got me double checking all the photos to make sure. I think I am all right, certailnly my principal contacts are all woman. Need to check out some of the backups.[/QUOTE]Rule of thumb for me, If her hight is over 5'3", I assume lady boy until proven otherwise.
If you want to get better at spotting the LBs, look at all of the girls that are online after midnight in the PI, shitload of them.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1131191]This is a good warning. Also, be wary about the possibility that 2 girls from the same town actually know each other and are running a tandem tag team on you. I met a guy who had that happen to him in Bacolod. They set him up very nicely and he foolishly told each one the same lies, and they both turned up together and gave him a tongue lashing.
I know WR would see this as an opportunity (for a 3some) but in my friend's case, it was a wasted trip to Bacolod. [/QUOTE]RK.
Have you ever thought I would do that to get them both to my hotel LOL.
But I always see an opportunity in that respect
And I would love a good tongue lashing especially from the peach
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[QUOTE=Bob Bowie;1131361]Rule of thumb for me, If her hight is over 5'3", I assume lady boy until proven otherwise.[/QUOTE]Not all filipinas are midgets, I met many in the 5'5-5'6 range. The tallest I met was a 5'11 half-american girl, the tallest pure filipina I met was 5'9. The girls in the visayas tend to be shorter and darker, Luzon cities have more half-bloods (mestizas)
Ladyboys: if you say in your profile that you hate them, they will hate you back. I used to have "No baklas or ladyboys" in my profile description, and that was a mistake. They would message me pretending to be a woman. I changed the profile to "Ladyboys. Introduce yourselves" and got much better results, now all of them tell me upfront who they are.
If you have doubts, call them on the phone. If its a gay, you'll hear a raspy modulated voice.
Ultimate test is package check in person. But I only had to resort once to that measure, it doesn't happen very often
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1131580]Not all filipinas are midgets, I met many in the 5'5-5'6 range.[/QUOTE]For sure, I prefer the taller girls, as do wealthy Philippinos. Although its funny how often the short girls have bigger tits.
This one was 5'4"
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1131580]If you have doubts, call them on the phone. If its a gay, you'll hear a raspy modulated voice.
Ultimate test is package check in person. But I only had to resort once to that measure, it doesn't happen very often[/QUOTE]I don't have a problem recognizing a ladyboy but why would one want to hide their real sex? I mean if they fool somebody and get to the room and the pants or skirt come off then it would be obvious they are not a girl. Then the guy would kick them out right?
I had one ladyboy with another girl follow me down the street and would not take no for an answer. I got stuck at a busy street and made the mistake of talking with him. I was not drunk but the lady boy said, oh your eyes look like your drunk. I responded, oh your eyes look like a boy! The girl with him started giggling. They followed me for two more blocks and starred at me from across the street from the patio of the bar I was having a beer at. They finaly left after I waved them away 20 minutes later. Persistent little fukers!
I also got kicked from my dia account prob from telling the ladyboys to fuk off.
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The pictures are of Vietnamese celebrity Elly Tran Ha. The Filipino cupid profile is a scam of course. If its too good to be true, it usually is.
[QUOTE=Jambo; 1130651]I've seen her around. Great ta-ta's and a nice trim waist, but I've never seen her naked. Maybe she is / was under 18?
From some of her pics I estimate she is Chinese perhaps from Taiwan.
Pic #4, 6.8 and 9 are from "her" page on Filipinocupid (note the watermark). Haha. But. Could. It really be. Her with an online profile? OMG.
If you want to mess with him / her, send lots of msg and suggest you want to help with her college.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3047808[/url]
This is profile number 3047808 if the link don't work. [/QUOTE]
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Why? I guess they want to be seen as beautiful, as a woman. And who knows how many drunks or naive young guys like (mr. Homophobe) have mistakenly found themselves so deeply in the clutches of a feminine man, that they have no alternative other than to go ahead with the BJ, or pay a way out. As for Tally Wacker, I have no idea why they persisted. My guess is that the gal with the vagina was available, but the gal with the penis was the one managing things. Who knows.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker; 1131591]I don't have a problem recognizing a ladyboy but why would one want to hide their real sex? I mean if they fool somebody and get to the room and the pants or skirt come off then it would be obvious they are not a girl. Then the guy would kick them out right?
I had one ladyboy with another girl follow me down the street and would not take no for an answer. I got stuck at a busy street and made the mistake of talking with him. I was not drunk but the lady boy said, oh your eyes look like your drunk. I responded, oh your eyes look like a boy! The girl with him started giggling. They followed me for two more blocks and starred at me from across the street from the patio of the bar I was having a beer at. They finaly left after I waved them away 20 minutes later. Persistent little fukers!
I also got kicked from my dia account prob from telling the ladyboys to fuk off. [/QUOTE]
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My Collected Wisdom
Hey Guys: Have been following the several threads dominating the board. Just got into Manila. Am waiting for sexy twosome to roll to my room shortly, but will distill my wisdom in the meantime. Consider yourselves blessed. Ha ha.
Ladyboys: I say live and let live. But also, leave us straight guys alone once we let you know we're not interested. What I don't like is the overly aggressive LB that doesn't move on when given the brushoff. Can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off even the most tolerant.
As for height as a proxy measure (get it, get it) for LBness, I think its a good one. While some mixed girls and 100% pinays are over 5'4" tall, they are the exception, not the rule. I think its a perfectly normal red flag if the DIA profile says anything taller. At that stage, we should proceed with caution and verify, verify, verify, before committing to something we'll regret.
DIA and My Conscience: My conscience is clear. My profile is clear (enough) about not looking for a long-term relationship. I don't reveal my marital status, and my name is not real, but that's about the extent of the subterfuge. I'm always a gentleman on the DIA chats and on any subsequent YM chats. I don't pretend to be a saint, but neither do I come completely clean about my truly lecherous nature. As I said earlier,"buyer beware", but that goes both ways.
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FF to LB?
The tension has been building. What was your reply?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1131337]I had a look at her profile a few days back. Then She sent me a Hello, today. And said " Hon I'm a LB, is that ok with you "[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1130980]One day you will see a hottie with a more " mature " guy and you will not know why hes with him and not you. And its not about money.[/QUOTE]If your idea of a hottie is 18-21 yo with sexy face and slim body, then I'm not sure what you're seeing. I rarely see any girl in this age bracket and HOT of course, with a guy over 35yo. Law of nature. Lets face it, the young twenty somethings always get the hot teenagers.
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[QUOTE=X Man;1131760]The tension has been building. What was your reply?[/QUOTE]LOL. I think I declined to respond.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1132135]If your idea of a hottie is 18-21 yo with sexy face and slim body, then I'm not sure what you're seeing. I rarely see any girl in this age bracket and HOT of course, with a guy over 35yo. Law of nature. Lets face it, the young twenty somethings always get the hot teenagers.[/QUOTE]Come hang with me next weekend. I will start with Ms 26 in the morning and afternoon, overnight will be with a 22 year student, kick her out hen all the next day / night will be with Ms 24, and I haven't decided if its Miss 23/27 or maybe Ms 32 to finish my little excursion. All slim, all free, and all my type. Oh and all prefer specifically the over 40; s LOL. Theres lots of variety out there for everyone. Ps. Please don't hang with me, I'm too busy. Hahah
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Whats in a name
Was perusing through DIA as we all do and encountered "Pretty_ Fanny". . Now if you are a Ham Shank, you will think this refer to the girls rear, but if you a Brit, then fanny is slang for pussy.
I couldn't resist and told the sweet girl that her name would surely attract hoards of Europes Best / Worst, all wanting to check out if her fanny / pussy really was pretty LOL. I think she is now in process of amending her profile or deleting it altogether.
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Conducive Cities
What cities have you found to be the most conducive for online dating / easy scores? (some say cebu is good). What cities have you found to be a bit difficult to bed chicks? Are some more conservative than others?
How about mall pick ups? Any cities better than others?
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[QUOTE=Sinning Desi; 1131757]Hey Guys: Have been following the several threads dominating the board. Just got into Manila. Am waiting for sexy twosome to roll to my room shortly, but will distill my wisdom in the meantime. Consider yourselves blessed. Ha ha.
Ladyboys: I say live and let live. But also, leave us straight guys alone once we let you know we're not interested. What I don't like is the overly aggressive LB that doesn't move on when given the brushoff. Can [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off even the most tolerant.
As for height as a proxy measure (get it, get it) for LBness, I think its a good one. While some mixed girls and 100% pinays are over 5'4" tall, they are the exception, not the rule. I think its a perfectly normal red flag if the DIA profile says anything taller. At that stage, we should proceed with caution and verify, verify, verify, before committing to something we'll regret.
DIA and My Conscience: My conscience is clear. My profile is clear (enough) about not looking for a long-term relationship. I don't reveal my marital status, and my name is not real, but that's about the extent of the subterfuge. I'm always a gentleman on the DIA chats and on any subsequent YM chats. I don't pretend to be a saint, but neither do I come completely clean about my truly lecherous nature. As I said earlier,"buyer beware", but that goes both ways. [/QUOTE]Don't forget to take off your luggage tags on your suitcases.
Robb
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1132135]If your idea of a hottie is 18-21 yo with sexy face and slim body, then I'm not sure what you're seeing. I rarely see any girl in this age bracket and HOT of course, with a guy over 35yo. Law of nature. Lets face it, the young twenty somethings always get the hot teenagers.[/QUOTE]LOL.
Amjeck, you have not me either :D RK will say my hottie is 19 and I am certainly older than 35.
Being young and fit is not what these girls wnat, older, fitter and kinkier is what they really want LOL :eek:
That is the law of PI
One day try and hang out with FF, RK and few others but I think you would be bored with all the hotties we see and shag :p
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1132135]If your idea of a hottie is 18-21 yo with sexy face and slim body, then I'm not sure what you're seeing. I rarely see any girl in this age bracket and HOT of course, with a guy over 35yo. Law of nature. Lets face it, the young twenty somethings always get the hot teenagers.[/QUOTE]Pissed myself laughing. You just don't get it do you?
Maybe your comment rings true in your country but not in the Philippines.
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1132332]LOL.
Amjeck, you have not me either. RK will say my hottie is 19 and I am certainly older than 35.
Being young and fit is not what these girls wnat, older, fitter and kinkier is what they really want LOL.
That is the law of PI.
One day try and hang out with FF, RK and few others but I think you would be bored with all the hotties we see and shag. [/QUOTE]You need to get over here Amjeck and check it out for yourself. Hang around with WR for a short time and you will see him knocking girls back left, right and especially centre (LOL) , and he is certainly not a superb physical speciman in ANY sense of the word. Although HE thinks he is Brad Pitt he never looks in the mirror so he suffers from some delusional illness but you can't blame him as the girls flock to him (and to his bag of tricks).
I am much more handsome and sexy than WR but his magnificent Cebu hottie is much more interested in him than me (drool drool).
As for your question Amjeck about which cities are easier or more conducive to bed chicks? There are girls willing and wanton in all cities, but the bigger the city the greater chance you have of finding them more easily (am I stating the bleeding obvious here?). In the smaller cities the girls are more likely to be spotted by friends but they will still be keen if you offer them the opportunity to meet you discreetly. Again, WR meets them anywhere and everywhere so if he can then you can too LOL.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1132140]Come hang with me next weekend. I will start with Ms 26 in the morning and afternoon, overnight will be with a 22 year student, kick her out hen all the next day / night will be with Ms 24, and I haven't decided if its Miss 23/27 or maybe Ms 32 to finish my little excursion. All slim, all free, and all my type. Oh and all prefer specifically the over 40; s LOL. Theres lots of variety out there for everyone. Ps. Please don't hang with me, I'm too busy. Hahah[/QUOTE]Nothing in the 18-21yo bracket? I'm not knocking you, but if it's over 21 I ain't interested, especially philippino women. To each his own.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1132396]You need to get over here Amjeck and check it out for yourself. Hang around with WR for a short time and you will see him knocking girls back left, right and especially centre (LOL) , and he is certainly not a superb physical speciman in ANY sense of the word. Although HE thinks he is Brad Pitt he never looks in the mirror so he suffers from some delusional illness but you can't blame him as the girls flock to him (and to his bag of tricks).
I am much more handsome and sexy than WR but his magnificent Cebu hottie is much more interested in him than me (drool drool).
Again, WR meets them anywhere and everywhere so if he can then you can too LOL. [/QUOTE]RK.
Always to have friends like you who are clearly delusional - as you know I am Brad Pitt's twin LOL while admittedly a chubbier and balder verson :D
And Cebu hottie thinks so to :) but she does enjoy the good threesomes we have when we are in Manila so you run a close second as do many others LOL
As you rightly point out, I have a bag of tricks, well accessories, and always handy to show and educate the girls both in the use of toys and classical languages - well I always consider myself as an educator!!
Amjeck, thanks for PM. Each to his own as some of the older pinays are good fun as they know what they want and like top pelase, some of the younger need to be educated (which is where I come in :)). A good mix is fun but admittedly Cebu hottie is more my age range as well
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Just a reminder.
Just to remind EVERYONE. Young, old, rich, poor, bald, fat, glasses, skinny. There is only one rule in phili and it comes down to how you play it.
Money TALKS!
Tailored suits, chauffered cars.
Fine hotels and big cigars.
Up for grabs, up for a price.
Where the red hot girls keep on dancing through the night.
The claim is on you.
The sights are on me.
So what do you do.
That's guaranteed.
Hey little girl, you want it all.
The furs, the diamonds, the painting on the wall.
Come on, come on, love me for the money.
Come on, come on, listen to the money talk.
Come on, come on, love me for the money.
Come on, come on, listen to the money talk.
A French maid, foreign chef.
A big house with king size bed.
You've had enough, you ship them out.
The dollar's up-down, you'd better buy the pound.
The claim is on you.
The sights are on me.
So what do you do.
That's guaranteed.
Hey little girl, you broke the laws.
You hustle, you deal, you steal from us all.
Come on, come on, love me for the money.
Come on, come on. Listen to the money talk.
Come on, come on, love me for the money.
Come, come on, listen to the money talk.
Money talks, yeah, yeah.
Money talks, B. S. Walks.
Money talks, come on, come on.
Come on, come on, love me for the money.
Come on, come on, listen to the money talk.
Come on, come on, love me for the money.
Come on, come on, listen to the money talk.
Money talks, money talk, talk, talk.
Hear it talk.
Yeah, yeah, yeah money talks
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Tsunami Crisis Alert!
A warning. A tsunami crisis alert was sent to the Philippines. This means of course that young girls all over there are going to take to the Internet to describe varying levels of catastrophe that has become of their family, friends, family caribou, dog, whatever.
Even the thought of a crisis can have a financial impact. For example there is the Internet cafe expenses and cell phone charges with all the "I'm all right are you ok?", and the "we are really worried here, maybe you should send some $" messages flying around.
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[QUOTE=Jambo; 1132619]A warning. A tsunami crisis alert was sent to the Philippines. This means of course that young girls all over there are going to take to the Internet to describe varying levels of catastrophe that has become of their family, friends, family caribou, dog, whatever.
Even the thought of a crisis can have a financial impact. For example there is the Internet cafe expenses and cell phone charges with all the "I'm all right are you ok?", and the "we are really worried here, maybe you should send some $" messages flying around.[/QUOTE]You said it. Girl who lives in Antipolo (very high up in the hills) sent me a panic text." were waiting for the tsunami now. Scared ". Then in classic Filipino style added " but we went to the sari sari stall and got tinned sardines so we think we will be ok".
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1132763]You said it. Girl who lives in Antipolo (very high up in the hills) sent me a panic text." were waiting for the tsunami now. Scared ". Then in classic Filipino style added " but we went to the sari sari stall and got tinned sardines so we think we will be ok".[/QUOTE]Absolute classic FF.
I had texts from one girl in Manila asking me if I was scared about the tsunami, and another from a girl in Iloilo who also said she was scared because she lived in the city and she could see the ocean.
I tried to explain how both Manila and Iloilo were on the western side of the Philippines and were "sheltered" from Japan which is north-east of the Philippines but they both had absolutely no idea what I was talking about.
The TV didn't help either. The TV anchors were excitedly talking up the possibility of half the Pacific rolling over the eastern Philippine devouring everything in its wake. I think they were quite disappointed when there was no discernible change in the gentle waves lapping against Legazpi, Samar and Leyte.
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Somone Forgot to Log Out of the CB Account
Not going to reveal her I'd as I think she is nice, but she hasn't looked at her account in a month, and this is what her profile says now:
[quote]Hi! Its for serious why I write here, I want to meet nice and good friends, and to meet my SOUL MATE. I'm JUST A SIMPLE WOMAN LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO WILL ACCEPT ME AS I AM WITH OUT DOUBT. I have had many men as sex partners and will continue to do so even after I get married. I can only be honest about that. I am woman that loves the touch of a man any man and many men to make me happy. If I love ill make it sure that ill be love him FAITHFULLY! I LOVED MUSIC. I'm a selfish girl that will make an efforts just to get you to send money to me and my man. I've meet lots of guys, they just want me for lust as I do them. To them for they never know who I am, what kind of woman I am, what is my ideas and principles. Jumping into conclusion will lead you to regret after. I am not to perfect but I am telling you just know me first and then you can judge! How lucky is the man to have me, not because for I have my looks, but because I have a heart as precious as gold, but don't cheat me because I swear that heart's will turn into a stone. I'm just being honest. But that's the reality of being me. I have my minds as quick as a fox. And is willing to fight for for what is right. I have a 3 yrs old son. And he is my life! I'm striving too hard to give my son a better and a good education I'm only 22 but for me LIFE IS WHAT WE MAKE IT! I hope ill find here my perfect match. MAY GOD BLESS US ALL ALWAYS![/quote]
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Tsunami
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1132914]Absolute classic FF.
I had texts from one girl in Manila asking me if I was scared about the tsunami, and another from a girl in Iloilo who also said she was scared because she lived in the city and she could see the ocean.
I tried to explain how both Manila and Iloilo were on the western side of the Philippines and were "sheltered" from Japan which is north-east of the Philippines but they both had absolutely no idea what I was talking about.
The TV didn't help either. The TV anchors were excitedly talking up the possibility of half the Pacific rolling over the eastern Philippine devouring everything in its wake. I think they were quite disappointed when there was no discernible change in the gentle waves lapping against Legazpi, Samar and Leyte. [/QUOTE]Hahaha. Geographically-challenged. I had several YM (DIA) chatmates yesterday telling me of the (false) devastation in California and Hawaii. They were dead serious."Pray to them."
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I told one that maybe less Japanese guys would be traveling to the Philippines thanks to the earthquake. She said: "What earthquake, its a tsunami". Didn't know the tsunami is caused by an earthquake.
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No Money, No Honey!
[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1132608]Just to remind EVERYONE. Young, old, rich, poor, bald, fat, glasses, skinny. There is only one rule in phili and it comes down to how you play it.
Money TALKS! [/QUOTE]You are an AC / DC fan I take it.
Yes the only prerequisite for P4P, the rest is 'up to you'.
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Is it really worth the time / money on dating sites?
I'm new to mongering in the Philippines. In reading this forum, I was hoping to ask some questions about using dating sites.
If your purpose is just to bang girls, why don't you just go to a bar? Some of you will say it's because you want a free shag. But it's hardly free considering all the time you put into messaging the girls, going onto webcams, texting, having her be LATE, etc (time is money). Not to mention, some of you pay for her taxi fare, dinner or fork up cash in response to her sob stories.
2 hours on dating site and web-chatting (at US minimum wage) : P600.
1 hour waiting for girl to show operating on Filipino time (at US minimum wage) : P300.
Your taxi fare: P150.
Her taxi fare (you reimburse her) : P150.
Drinks / Dinner: P300 (probably more if she brings friends)
Her wasting your text messaging load: P50.
Giving money for her sob story:?
Am I missing something here? It seems you get far better value simply barfining the girl (and you would know how she looks right away).
I can understand using these sites if you're looking for a girlfriend or wife. But for a shag?
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1133128]I can understand using these sites if you're looking for a girlfriend or wife. But for a shag?[/QUOTE]Oh for me, its like hunting. You can go to a "game preserve" and easily bag some farm-raised pheasants. Or you can venture out and hunt for some wild thing.
Also, if all the men a girl may experience in her life is like a river, I prefer to do my fishing upstream.
But you got a point.
Oh just now I see this relevant article:
[url]http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-mind-of-man-why-men-prefer-innocent-girls-to-*****y-slutosauruses/[/url]
Why Men Prefer Innocent Girls to *****y Slutosauruses
From the article for example:
Corrupting Innocence is Fun
"Bad Girls" are Intimidating
"Bad Girls" Style are Less Mysterious
Guys Have Control Issues
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1133128]Am I missing something here? It seems you get far better value simply barfining the girl (and you would know how she looks right away).
I can understand using these sites if you're looking for a girlfriend or wife. But for a shag? [/QUOTE]I kinda agree with you here, but the bar scene recently has become worse. The young hotties are conceited and don't want to perform as much anymore. Also, banging a chick who's fucked 100 guys for cash, kinda gets old.
There's nothing like fresh pussy. If the bars were stocked with it, I'd completley agree with you.
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I should add that I can see the value of these dating websites if you live or visit a city not known for high concentration of bars (outside Manila, Angeles City, Subic, Cebu, etc).
As for getting "fresh pussy", I see plenty of young naive types in Angeles City bars.
I bet girls on DIA are also banging a lot of guys too.
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Chaperones can be fun too
For those who absolutely refuse to let girls bring friends or cousins to first meetings from dating site pick-ups, don't be too quick to dismiss them.
Twice now I have found that the chaperone is way more cute and ready to rock and roll than the original target.
Most recent instance was today in Manila. I met a woman who is about to go O / S for work next Wednesday and she asked if she could bring her cousin along who was visiting from Cebu. I had no objection as I had plans for after-lunch and knew it was just a 60 minute meeting anyway. The target was very sweet but the "cousin" was sexy as hell, very cute, and taught english in a school in Cebu.
After they left I got a text from the cousin saying she hoped we could meet when her friend left for OS. She was "ashamed" (she meant embarrassed) to give me her number in front of her friend (my original target) but that she "liked" me. We plan to meet on Thursday.
Twice now I have scored from the "escort" so don't always dismiss the idea out of hand.
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Correct-a-mundo
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1133128]I'm new to mongering in the Philippines. In reading this forum, I was hoping to ask some questions about using dating sites.
If your purpose is just to bang girls, why don't you just go to a bar? Some of you will say it's because you want a free shag. But it's hardly free considering all the time you put into messaging the girls, going onto webcams, texting, having her be LATE, etc (time is money). Not to mention, some of you pay for her taxi fare, dinner or fork up cash in response to her sob stories.
2 hours on dating site and web-chatting (at US minimum wage) : P600.
1 hour waiting for girl to show operating on Filipino time (at US minimum wage) : P300.
Your taxi fare: P150.
Her taxi fare (you reimburse her) : P150.
Drinks / Dinner: P300 (probably more if she brings friends)
Her wasting your text messaging load: P50.
Giving money for her sob story:?
Am I missing something here? It seems you get far better value simply barfining the girl (and you would know how she looks right away).
I can understand using these sites if you're looking for a girlfriend or wife. But for a shag? [/QUOTE]However, there is some draw to banging on semi- or non-pro.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1133234]She was "ashamed" (she meant embarrassed) to give me her number in front of her friend.[/QUOTE]Oh I have the perfect excuse for that."You know I have a friend who might like to meet you".
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[QUOTE=David_33;1132974]I told one that maybe less Japanese guys would be traveling to the Philippines thanks to the earthquake. She said: "What earthquake, its a tsunami". Didn't know the tsunami is caused by an earthquake.[/QUOTE]One one told me today that they were so lucky that nobody got killed.
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Potential Tsunami Relief
[quote]hi [Jambo]..please help me...we are not safe here in our place..we are near in beach,,we need to transfer to another house for a main time..for our safety..plzz..help us...i don't have a father anymore..only my mother who raise us..i have 2bro and 1 sis...we don't have money for the rent in house if we transfer..plzzz..[Jambo]..i am begging you..i know will not trust me..cos were just sending message here and you did not see me yet in person..but i am not lying..but if u doubt to me..i don't have the right...hope you read my message.answer my request .take care and god-bless..mwuaahh..[/quote]Oh I don't doubt she lives on the shoreline and does not have $ to move. I will just roll in with my amphibious landing ship and whisk the whole neighborhood away! Hmm I had very impure thoughts about lowering my dick to help her, but that would not be either thoughtful or considerate!
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[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1133188]I bet girls on DIA are also banging a lot of guys too.[/QUOTE]I bet sometimes even MORE guys than bargirls do
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Here's a cutie!
Met this cutie on streammate. After 6 months of chatting with her daily I went to meet her in Manila. I had her meet me at the hotel and took her to Boracay for a weekend tryst. Of course I gave her several thousand pesos for being my companion for the weekend.
She no longer does webcam on streammate and is now finishing up nursing degree with STI College.
When she needs money she will solicit some of her old customers and gives them shows on yahoo messenger. I don't mind we are fuck friends only.
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Barbie_dollie07 on DIA
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How should you answer?
I have a new conquest lined up and we spoke today about the plans to meet (she thinks she's got an overnight. Wrong. She's going to be on the street after 6 hours,). Anyways she asks me " are you naughty in the bed". Not wishing to scare her off I replied "moderately.". A truth more truthful guy would have said " on the bed, in the bed, in the bathroom, in the kitchen, in all orifices including vegetable insertion etc. Sometimes its more convenient to just lie. LOL
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Don't believe them profiles
proof that you cannot always believe all that you read in a dia profile. this 19 year old paranaque sm storegirl (in-between contracts) had discouraging phrases such as 'simple girl', 'looking for serious relationship' and that real passion killer 'god fearing' rep001tered throughout her profile. yet, after she contacted me, and i replied using my stock answer that i wasn't interested in a serious relationship but only in making some casual friends to have some fun with, she replied 'that's ok for me, want to meet you'.
so we set up a meeting in a nearby mall and i was pleasantly surprised when she turned up alone, a pretty if slightly chubby girl with a pleasant manner. took her to a barbecue restaurant (her choice) where she had the 100 pesos special with unlimited rice. thinking that was it, i asked her what she wanted to do next expecting her to say shopping or something similarly inane and boring but she gave me a rather coy look and said 'up to you'. an old dog like me needs no further hints, and i asked if she wanted to accompany me to the nearby eurotel where we could get to know one another better to which she shyly agreed.
and that as they say, is all the old ***** wrote. she told me that i was only her second lover, the first being the filipino boyfriend who took her cherry. i don't know whether this is true or not but it was obvious that she was fairly inexperienced and naοve. i love a nearly blank sheet and no doubt i will be adding a few tricks to her repertoire.
so never be put off by a seemingly unpromising profile
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Tosser Alert
Got a PM today as follows.
[quote]Hi.
Hi pal.
Can ihav the number of some gals plzzzzzz[/quote]I don't know if this board attracts the attention of intellectual pygmies or the bedridden or the couch potato lazy type. But this forum shows that men of all types, sizes, colours, income and age groups, can all prosper here.
Get off your duff Mr PM and do a little work, Even if I gave you some contacts the girls would surely expect a bit of wooing. Or do you think gals are patiently waiting for a call from a stranger and will respond to said same call with " sure honey, thats the sound of my thong hitting the floor."" I've been waiting for you all night ". LOL.
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You don't have to send money
Advisory for those of you who worry that if you don't send money to a girl she will lose interest in you:
Over the past 10 days I have received texts from 4 different girls asking for:
- 650 pesos to have a medical exam to get a working visa;
- 1000 pesos to pay overdue electric bill;
- 2000 pesos to pay plane fare so she can come to Manila;
- any money you can spare for food because I haven't eaten for 3 days and I am starving and I feel dizzy;
In each and every case, I just ignored the text and deleted it. I did NOT reply (important point).
In each and EVERY case, within one or two days, I received texts from all 4 girls asking me "How are you";"are you still busy?" etc etc as though they had never sent the original text to me.
The key is just ignore, even if it is tempting to fashion some smart-ass reply. For example, in case 4 above, I was sorely tempted to reply with "why not pawn your cell phone to get food if you are so hungry" etc etc.
The reality is that if these problems really do exist then they will find a way to solve them as they have always done before you arrived on the scene.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1134789]Got a PM today as follows.
I don't know if this board attracts the attention of intellectual pygmies or the bedridden or the couch potato lazy type. But this forum shows that men of all types, sizes, colours, income and age groups, can all prosper here.
Get off your duff Mr PM and do a little work, Even if I gave you some contacts the girls would surely expect a bit of wooing. Or do you think gals are patiently waiting for a call from a stranger and will respond to said same call with " sure honey, thats the sound of my thong hitting the floor."" I've been waiting for you all night ". LOL.[/QUOTE]Should have given him #'s of some ladyboys. LOL
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Here is another example of the same.
Kate (3/17/11 11:22 AM) : <ding
Kate (3/17/11 11:22 AM) : Hello,
Kate (3/17/11 11:22 AM) : Dear. How have you been? I've been waiting for you but your not online when I get online. Same as you. You are not online too when I get online. Well hope you are fine there dear. I miss you especially our plays on chat and call. I want to make love on you dear. I want to feel the cum that you are saying everytime we play.
Kate (3/17/11 11:22 AM) : Ijust want you to know that we will have a fieldtrip going to manila this coming March 20. 25. It is a 5days trip and were going to be visiting companies related to our course dear. And as you said on our last chat, you will be there in manila on March 22 right? Maybe we can see each other at night dear if you want?
Kate (3/17/11 11:22 AM) : but the problem is the cost of the trip is 12000 pesos for it will cover up the whole expenses from our trip. From fare to food and lodge. And I only pay 4000php on it. So I have 8000 to pay before March 20 dear. Can you help me finance the remaining payments dear? If on you want to. I don't want to force you on helping me about this.
Kate (3/17/11 11:22 AM) : but it will be a great opportunity for us to be together dear for we are very vacant during night time there. What do you think? Hope you answer these. You take care and godbless dear. Miss you so much and love you a lot. Mwaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!
Don't believe her :P.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1134947]Advisory for those of you who worry that if you don't send money to a girl she will lose interest in you:
Over the past 10 days I have received texts from 4 different girls asking for:
- 650 pesos to have a medical exam to get a working visa;
- 2000 pesos to pay plane fare so she can come to Manila;
- any money you can spare for food because I haven't eaten for 3 days and I am starving and I feel dizzy;
In each and every case, I just ignored the text and deleted it. I did NOT reply (important point).
In each and EVERY case, within one or two days, I received texts from all 4 girls asking me "How are you";"are you still busy?" etc etc as though they had never sent the original text to me.
The key is just ignore, even if it is tempting to fashion some smart-ass reply. For example, in case 4 above, I was sorely tempted to reply with "why not pawn your cell phone to get food if you are so hungry" etc etc.
The reality is that if these problems really do exist then they will find a way to solve them as they have always done before you arrived on the scene. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1134947]).
In each and EVERY case, within one or two days, I received texts from all 4 girls asking me "How are you";"are you still busy?" etc etc as though they had never sent the original text to me.
The reality is that if these problems really do exist then they will find a way to solve them as they have always done before you arrived on the scene.[/QUOTE]One of the amazing things about the Filipina psyche is there ability to tally forget a discussion that occurred days before and to carry on blithely as if it had never occurred. This happen regularly. She may have called you a total shit for the suggestion you had made to her, but days later she will have a breezy " Hi Hello, etc. Amazingly selective memories! Newbies need to be highly aware of this.
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[QUOTE=Member #1088; 1135059]Here is another example of the same.
Kate (3/17/11 11:22 AM) : but the problem is the cost of the trip is 12000 pesos for it will cover up the whole expenses from our trip. [/QUOTE]12, 000 php for a field trip from any province to MNL for a normal college girl?
woww.....
Thats amazing LOL
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One, just around the island of Cebu for a weekend cost a girl 5, 000. This is verified and also one of the ways that many educational institutions make their money. If the girls don't take the trips, they don't pass the course.
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Dia
Have dated many phil girls from DIA in recent trips. All 18 to 24 and the best looking ones. My experiences were very positive, unlike some other reports. But. Beware of the LB! Expect at least 1 LB if you have a line up. I never pay for sex with DIA girls and score maybe 30-40 % after 1 or 2 dates. I never chat or send more than 3 mails. Just send one mail "next week I come" and 1 week later "this is my # want to have a chat and drink". Don't want to waste hours and evenings chatting. And the funny thing is that all girls liked that. They are not stupid, they all know that 90% of the guys chatting to them never show up. But I think having a nice time with DIA (or any other dating site) girls, starts with selecting nice profiles. And like RK already mentioned."can I bring a friend" of course! Bring 4 if you like! The more the better. Time efficiency. Than you have let us say 3. And you text them "do you have any other friends who want meet". Now isn't that a nice game.
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a few gems from today's dia inbox:
from a cute 22 year old:
[quote]will you be my shoulder when i'm gray and older? promise me tomorrow starts with you. getting high, running wild among the stars above. sometimes it's hard to believe you remember me.
in love, somehow, a man's heart is always either exceeding the speed limit, or getting parked in the wrong place. [/quote]don't know about my heart exceeding the speed limit but my lunch nearly did when i read this:)!
someone recently advocated cultivating older dia ladies. here is one reason why.
first message sets the 'poor me' scenario.
[quote]hi im j**** im educatd kind loving sincer hones tpolite pls add me **************@yahoo.com im pure pilipina i would like to hav ework casue i dont have work now due to a government here not good im finish my dagree but no work nowim single parent 1 kids 16 and 15 im really finacially cripled due to poverty sometimes i sold fish in the market but this is not enough for my 2 kids pls if you want o come my place it takes 1 hour by the airplain from maila to my place dipolog city pilipppines my place is a small place its has may nice beaches good tourist spot ou can have me a help in guide you in many places i speak enlish tagalog japanes and greck. im educated respect people who are not educated pls add me **************@yahoo.com. pls be careful in manila theres so many people no good cheting foreiners okey tak ecare j****.god bless you have a good day to you.[/quote]majored in enlish or greck:d? next came the reassurance....not! aaaaarghhh.
[quote]dont you worry my father is a retired big policeman hee and same my brothere too now is a poloceman here my place pls if you are interested in me pls add me ***********@yahoo.com im online during sunday monday wensday and friday okey[/quote]and finally the bait. i see. she is pimping her 15 year old daughter and other young female relatives!
[quote]i have many beautiful friends young and cousin young very beatiful and my daughter also is 15 years old long hair black hair shine she is a gymnastic won here my palce she is slim type okey have a good day hope to hear f rom you zoon[/quote]
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Chinese Zodiac
the **** girl issue is a big concern, for all the right reasons. after gliding thru the many dia listings and collecting a few possible meetings, i noticed the chinese zodiac. after figuring out the various animals and what years they represent, i was suprised to find out that some of the 20-22 yo girls i'd been planning on meeting were in fact only 15-16. they denied it at first but, after some pushing on my part, they admitted to being ****. so, be careful fellas! even some of the 20-22 year old girls are not what they seem. play safe!
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[QUOTE=Fslag338;1135147]. I never pay for sex with DIA girls and score maybe 30-40 % after 1 or 2 dates. . Now isn't that a nice game.[/QUOTE]I never pay either but somehow its always closer to a 100% score rate. Don't know why, but I am very familiar with Manila (and no I'm not bigging myself up here) and I think most other Manila based guys would have a high score too "
If I touch the girl seemingly innocently, with no push back or take her hand to cross the road safely within a minute of first meeting, its a sure sure sure almost guaranteed sign of good things later. (unless its red tide time!)
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Texting
Ok so I had a weekend in Manila and was swept up at first into the mad world if stupid inane text chatd where even banality would be exciting compared to the sheer dreariness of the dialogue.
Her. How are you.
Me. Fine.
Her. Why fine.
Me. Because I am.
Her. Did you eat.
Me. Yes.
Her. What did you eat.
Me. Food.
Her. Why didn't you eat rice?
Etccetc etc. Ad Nauseum.
Did have some funny textchat with a policewoman. Who said she would like to handcuff me in the bedroom.
The asked " can you still make babies "
I replied that I "could still produce a very hard long lasting and maximum satisfyingly erection that would ensure she moaned long and loud "
She replied " Wow. Thats good "
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[quote=chicochulo; 1136404]the **** girl issue is a big concern, for all the right reasons. after gliding thru the many dia listings and collecting a few possible meetings, i noticed the chinese zodiac. after figuring out the various animals and what years they represent, i was suprised to find out that some of the 20-22 yo girls i'd been planning on meeting were in fact only 15-16. they denied it at first but, after some pushing on my part, they admitted to being ****. so, be careful fellas! even some of the 20-22 year old girls are not what they seem. play safe!
cc[/quote]this may be true, but lets not forget that just as girls put down their weight into what they think are the right categories (except that i've found maybe ladies who thought they were 125 pounds to be only 90 in real life, as no one has weighing scales except when they go for a medical examination for a job ). anyways equally many have no idea what the chinese zodiac signs are (sir i'm pilipina not chinese lol). i don't think many would know a dog from a pig etc.
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[quote=chicochulo; 1136404]the **** girl issue is a big concern, for all the right reasons. after gliding thru the many dia listings and collecting a few possible meetings, i noticed the chinese zodiac. after figuring out the various animals and what years they represent, i was suprised to find out that some of the 20-22 yo girls i'd been planning on meeting were in fact only 15-16. they denied it at first but, after some pushing on my part, they admitted to being ****. so, be careful fellas! even some of the 20-22 year old girls are not what they seem. play safe!
cc[/quote]i noticed this also. the sad thing is that most of them seem to be pushed by their parents to start looking for foreign guys. i can't imagine what kind of lowlife human being would pimp out their **** daughter to foreigners for financial gain. i don't care how financially needy they are. is nothing sacred?
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[quote=radical guy;1136490]i noticed this also. the sad thing is that most of them seem to be pushed by their parents to start looking for foreign guys. i can't imagine what kind of lowlife human being would pimp out their **** daughter to foreigners for financial gain. i don't care how financially needy they are. is nothing sacred?[/quote]i think it is not so black and white as you see it rg. of course that happens what you say unfortunately but do not forget that for many especially lower social class families, marriage at 18 or even younger is very common. so if you want to marry at 18 you should start before that.
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[quote=radical guy;1136490]is nothing sacred?[/quote]lol, not in phils. if someone ordered ****, pregnant twin hookers from room service, they'd probably be delivered by their father.
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[quote=radical guy;1136490]i noticed this also. the sad thing is that most of them seem to be pushed by their parents to start looking for foreign guys. i can't imagine what kind of lowlife human being would pimp out their **** daughter to foreigners for financial gain. i don't care how financially needy they are. is nothing sacred?[/quote]rg.
i don't think you should be too quick to pass judgement. most of us don't know what it is like to live in extreme poverty and at the same time have to live in a consumer society fuelled by tv advertising and marketing. in a culture where the children of the poor are often seen as a commodity to provide the parents with their old age pension and financial security. i don't condone it but it neither surprises me or shocks me. i was in cebu in january and the 14 year old daughter of an old friend was 5 months pregnant by an equally young pinoy in her local village. it is a constant worry for the parents of young girls who are poor and uneducated and it some respects you can't blame them for wanting them to hook up with a 'forieigner' rather than some uneducated pond dweller with absolutely no prospects of ever making anything of himself.
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you have to be a little careful with dia. i suspect that it is paedophiles heaven. i recently was sent a message by a 17 year old ladyboy who said that he was a pimp and had a stable of girls available, all **** and starting at 14. you have to remember that, in the cities shanty towns and slums, a girl has done well if she manages to retain her cherry into her teenage years. often lost to a sibling or other male relative, they are going at it like bunnies by the time that the are 13-14. you can't blame them. there is fuck all else to do.
ff. lol, you get them sort of meal obsessed sms's as well. thought that it was just me. i'm always getting concerned messages from girls inquiring as to whether i had eaten my breakfast / lunch / dinner.
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[quote=cunning stunt; 1136662]you have to be a little careful with dia. i suspect that it is paedophiles heaven. i recently was sent a message by a 17 year old ladyboy who said that he was a pimp and had a stable of girls available, all **** and starting at 14. you have to remember that, in the cities shanty towns and slums, a girl has done well if she manages to retain her cherry into her teenage years. often lost to a sibling or other male relative, they are going at it like bunnies by the time that the are 13-14. you can't blame them. there is fuck all else to do.
ff. lol, you get them sort of meal obsessed sms's as well. thought that it was just me. i'm always getting concerned messages from girls inquiring as to whether i had eaten my breakfast / lunch / dinner. [/quote]cs,
that's not entirely true. it is often papa who gets the first ride. if he stuck around long enough for them to reach puberty he sees it as his right. i have read studies that describe cases where the father replaces his dead or separated wife with a teen daughter. the majority of filipinas passing themselves off as virgins to foreigners are hardly untouched. they are counting on the size differential between foreign and pinoy cock to cover up the fact that they have already been deflowered. almost all pinay have some bleeding with their first taste of foreign cock.
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[quote=chocha monger; 1136672]cs,
that's not entirely true. it is often papa who gets the first ride. if he stuck around long enough for them to reach puberty he sees it as his right. i have read studies that describe cases where the father replaces his dead or separated wife with a teen daughter. the majority of filipinas passing themselves off as virgins to foreigners are hardly untouched. they are counting on the size differential between foreign and pinoy cock to cover up the fact that they have already been deflowered. almost all pinay have some bleeding with their first taste of foreign cock. [/quote]although you sometimes see philippine supreme court opinions dealing with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url] cases, i would imagine that in such a corrupt country, the vast majority of such cases go unreported and unenforced, especially in the provinces.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1136662]You have to remember that, in the cities shanty towns and slums, a girl has done well if she manages to retain her cherry into her teenage years. Often lost to a sibling or other male relative, they are going at it like bunnies by the time that the are 13-14.[/QUOTE]So the poorer they are the less likely they are virgins? I guess most of that cherry girl bullshit in AC is a scam then?
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Sitting On A Goldmine: Chapter One. By Joe Race
[quote=amjeck;1136907]so the poorer they are the less likely they are virgins? i guess most of that cherry girl bullshit in ac is a scam then?[/quote]in the beginning.
josephine 'josie' gonzales grew up on a farm in rural vigan, in the republic of the philippines. she was fourth in line of a family of nine brothers and sisters. her parents were faithful church goers, and did wala or knew nothing of birth control. each new baby put them further in debt, and took away any chance for the older ones to go to school or abroad for well-paying jobs. josie was bright and beautiful, already knew english and espanol, and showed all the signs of being a successful adult within the economic restrictions. it even appeared that she might be a lucky one that would bust out of the lingering cycle of poverty.
but the possibilities all changed at age fourteen while she was working in the fields. she was viciously raped and impregnated by her cruel uncle in a rice paddy, and she nearly died from drowning when he left her face down in the water. her mother's brother, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] uncle tommy, denied everything and said that the girl had been flirting with the neighbor boys and probably got knocked up by too much fucking. the mother believed the uncle and figured josie's raging hormones had turned her into a little tramp. she took the girl to manila to have the baby aborted.
the mother was embarrassed for her family and left the child after the abortion with her sister, anna, who led a questionable life in the bars and canteens of burgos street in the center of manila. every one in the family was poverty-stricken, and had to do whatever was necessary to survive. anna got josie drunk several times on vodka and a generic ecstasy pill, and sold her off to japanese businessmen as a virgin. this always brought in a double fee.
josie would cry and struggle during the sex, and the auntie would chastise and control the girl by holding her down. she would tell the businessman to push hard, as the girl was small and tight. the auntie then would get close to the fucking action, precisely where the penis penetrated the vagina, and from a hidden capsule, spill some pig blood onto the sheet. because of the thrashing and bouncing on the bed, the blood would splatter all over josie's butt and vagina, and convince the japanese man that he had just broken open a virgin. he was happy and felt macho, and the cousin received her double fee. she would give josie an extra two hundred pesos.
from deep inside her soul, josie was determined to find a way out of this terrible situation. she saved whatever money she had, and started a bank account. she wanted an education, fine clothes and a chance to improve her life. after the tenth 'virgin' assault, she found herself with over five thousand pesos in her account, counting the commission from auntie anna, and the tips from the japanese men. josie also discovered that if she cried out loud after 'losing her virginity' some of the men would feel sorry for her, and leave her extra money. others would run as quickly as possible from the bedroom.
during the sexual encounters, josie would generally fantasize about a new home on the beach, or putting her parents in a nice retirement home, or buying some new clothes or a reliable car. her most exact fantasy was about getting an education and becoming a lawyer or doctor. sometimes she didn't have to fake an orgasm; just thinking about graduating with honors was enough to put her over the edge. occasionally she would think about 'a fantasy man', like most of the girls in the brothel, that would come charging in on a white stallion and carry her off for a normal life, filled with sensitivity and love.
but she learned to be realistic and honest about her situation. always the businesswoman, josie learned another trick on her tenth 'virginity loss. ' the man would occasionally hold her to comfort her, and through a conversation in broken english, she would say, 'i think i really like sex. can we do it again? ' she would slide over on his lap and rub her bare pussy on his legs.
the japanese man would be delighted to hear that he had introduced her to sex, and she had enjoyed it and wanted more. she would ask to go shower and take the man with her. she would get some clean sheets, and while she was making the bed, she would make sure that the man had a full view of her naked backside and shaved pussy. by this time, the man had regained his power and was ready to re-mount his new sexual protιgι. this was the perfect time for josie to say, 'i really want to make love again with you. maybe you could help with my college expenses? '
the man would ask how much money she needed. she would wrinkle up her forehead in worry and say, 'the books and tuition are very expensive. i want to make something of myself. can you give me two thousand pesos more? ' of course, this was double rate again after the 'virgin penetration. '
at this stage of the game, the man would have given her a new car or a trip to disneyland. he quickly acquiesced to the additional fee. she kept this information from her auntie. anna later learned of this new arrangement and told her that the commission worked both ways. for the next five customers, anna made her work without a commission. all the fees went to anna.
jose followed the rules for a month. being a young girl, one day she forgot the auntie's conditions with a wealthy client, who gave her three thousand pesos. as he was leaving the apartment house, the man said, 'your niece is very sexy. she was well worth the extra money. '
anna figured she would wait and see what josie would do with the money. by the next day, josie still hadn't turned in the extra commission fee to anna. this played right into anna's plans. she had a spanish customer, ben reyes, that wanted to spank 'a bad school girl. ' she telephoned ben and told him to come by the apartment at four o'clock.
anna walked into josie's bedroom and told her to put on a teenager mini-skirt and a blouse, that they were going shopping. about an hour later, ben showed up with a wad of money and an evil glint in his eye. they negotiated a fee of five thousand pesos for disciplining josie, and anna offered to help hold her down. anna, with ben following closely, went into josie's bedroom while she was brushing her hair.
anna confronted jose about not turning in her commission, and told her that she was going to be punished.
josie asked, 'what's the man doing here? is he a customer? '
anna replied, 'in a way, he's a customer. he's going to spank you for breaking my rules. '
josie said, 'no, he's not. i haven't been spanked since i was twelve years old, and that was from my dirty uncle. i know what follows afterward. he'll have to pay big-time. '
'no money for you, josie. ' anna then said to ben, 'go get her. don't worry about noise. give her a hard spanking. you can use your hands or her hairbrush. ' the bedroom was in the middle of a concrete building and soundproof.
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[quote=chocha monger; 1136947]in the beginning.
josephine 'josie' gonzales grew up on a farm in rural vigan, in the republic of the philippines. she was fourth in line of a family of nine brothers and sisters. her parents were faithful church goers, and did wala or knew nothing of birth control. each new baby put them further in debt, and took away any chance for the older ones to go to school or abroad for well-paying jobs. josie was bright and beautiful, already knew english and espanol, and showed all the signs of being a successful adult within the economic restrictions. it even appeared that she might be a lucky one that would bust out of the lingering cycle of poverty.
but the possibilities all changed at age fourteen while she was working in the fields. she was viciously raped and impregnated by her cruel uncle in a rice paddy, and she nearly died from drowning when he left her face down in the water. her mother's brother, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] uncle tommy, denied everything and said that the girl had been flirting with the neighbor boys and probably got knocked up by too much fucking. the mother believed the uncle and figured josie's raging hormones had turned her into a little tramp. she took the girl to manila to have the baby aborted.
the mother was embarrassed for her family and left the child after the abortion with her sister, anna, who led a questionable life in the bars and canteens of burgos street in the center of manila. every one in the family was poverty-stricken, and had to do whatever was necessary to survive. anna got josie drunk several times on vodka and a generic ecstasy pill, and sold her off to japanese businessmen as a virgin. this always brought in a double fee.
josie would cry and struggle during the sex, and the auntie would chastise and control the girl by holding her down. she would tell the businessman to push hard, as the girl was small and tight. the auntie then would get close to the fucking action, precisely where the penis penetrated the vagina, and from a hidden capsule, spill some pig blood onto the sheet. because of the thrashing and bouncing on the bed, the blood would splatter all over josie's butt and vagina, and convince the japanese man that he had just broken open a virgin. he was happy and felt macho, and the cousin received her double fee. she would give josie an extra two hundred pesos.
from deep inside her soul, josie was determined to find a way out of this terrible situation. she saved whatever money she had, and started a bank account. she wanted an education, fine clothes and a chance to improve her life. after the tenth 'virgin' assault, she found herself with over five thousand pesos in her account, counting the commission from auntie anna, and the tips from the japanese men. josie also discovered that if she cried out loud after 'losing her virginity' some of the men would feel sorry for her, and leave her extra money. others would run as quickly as possible from the bedroom.
during the sexual encounters, josie would generally fantasize about a new home on the beach, or putting her parents in a nice retirement home, or buying some new clothes or a reliable car. her most exact fantasy was about getting an education and becoming a lawyer or doctor. sometimes she didn't have to fake an orgasm; just thinking about graduating with honors was enough to put her over the edge. occasionally she would think about 'a fantasy man', like most of the girls in the brothel, that would come charging in on a white stallion and carry her off for a normal life, filled with sensitivity and love.
but she learned to be realistic and honest about her situation. always the businesswoman, josie learned another trick on her tenth 'virginity loss. ' the man would occasionally hold her to comfort her, and through a conversation in broken english, she would say, 'i think i really like sex. can we do it again? ' she would slide over on his lap and rub her bare pussy on his legs.
the japanese man would be delighted to hear that he had introduced her to sex, and she had enjoyed it and wanted more. she would ask to go shower and take the man with her. she would get some clean sheets, and while she was making the bed, she would make sure that the man had a full view of her naked backside and shaved pussy. by this time, the man had regained his power and was ready to re-mount his new sexual protιgι. this was the perfect time for josie to say, 'i really want to make love again with you. maybe you could help with my college expenses? '
the man would ask how much money she needed. she would wrinkle up her forehead in worry and say, 'the books and tuition are very expensive. i want to make something of myself. can you give me two thousand pesos more? ' of course, this was double rate again after the 'virgin penetration. '
at this stage of the game, the man would have given her a new car or a trip to disneyland. he quickly acquiesced to the additional fee. she kept this information from her auntie. anna later learned of this new arrangement and told her that the commission worked both ways. for the next five customers, anna made her work without a commission. all the fees went to anna.
jose followed the rules for a month. being a young girl, one day she forgot the auntie's conditions with a wealthy client, who gave her three thousand pesos. as he was leaving the apartment house, the man said, 'your niece is very sexy. she was well worth the extra money. '
anna figured she would wait and see what josie would do with the money. by the next day, josie still hadn't turned in the extra commission fee to anna. this played right into anna's plans. she had a spanish customer, ben reyes, that wanted to spank 'a bad school girl. ' she telephoned ben and told him to come by the apartment at four o'clock.
anna walked into josie's bedroom and told her to put on a teenager mini-skirt and a blouse, that they were going shopping. about an hour later, ben showed up with a wad of money and an evil glint in his eye. they negotiated a fee of five thousand pesos for disciplining josie, and anna offered to help hold her down. anna, with ben following closely, went into josie's bedroom while she was brushing her hair.
anna confronted jose about not turning in her commission, and told her that she was going to be punished.
josie asked, 'what's the man doing here? is he a customer? '
anna replied, 'in a way, he's a customer. he's going to spank you for breaking my rules. '
josie said, 'no, he's not. i haven't been spanked since i was twelve years old, and that was from my dirty uncle. i know what follows afterward. he'll have to pay big-time. '
'no money for you, josie. ' anna then said to ben, 'go get her. don't worry about noise. give her a hard spanking. you can use your hands or her hairbrush. ' the bedroom was in the middle of a concrete building and soundproof. [/quote]dude, if you have that much time to deal with aesop's fables then you have way too much free time on your hands. or is this fractured fairytales? nonetheless, way too much time on your hands.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1137028]Dude, if you have that much time to deal with Aesop's Fables then you have way too much free time on your hands. Or is this Fractured Fairytales? Nonetheless, way too much time on your hands.[/QUOTE]Now I'm pissed because he got me all into it so this is another book that I will have to buy.
[url]http://www.josephrace.com/Books2.aspx[/url]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Sitting-Goldmine-Joe-Race/dp/1425174892/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262971329&sr=1-1[/url]
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Interesting to note that the two "five star" reviews of this book on Amazon are by reviewers who seem to have a hidden agenda. Click the "See all my reviews" buttons.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1136473]Her. What did you eat.
Me. Food.
Her. Why didn't you eat rice? [/QUOTE]I wonder how she would have responded if you told her "I just finished eating pussy.....and rice." :D
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[quote=radical guy;1136490]i noticed this also. the sad thing is that most of them seem to be pushed by their parents to start looking for foreign guys. i can't imagine what kind of lowlife human being would pimp out their **** daughter to foreigners for financial gain. i don't care how financially needy they are. is nothing sacred?[/quote]not advocating going after the **** girls, but just wondering how and when the concept of girls needing to be over 18 came about. i remember hearing of girls getting married at age 14 in the us. granted, this was many decades ago. if i remember correctly, my grandfather was 18 when he married my grandmother, and she was 14. i have heard of many marriages from that era that started at those young ages. why is it considered taboo around the world now? just wondering. i will stick to the over 18 group to keep myself out of trouble.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1137075]I wonder how she would have responded if you told her "I just finished eating pussy.....and rice." :D[/QUOTE]Probably said " why did you eat pussy, why not eat beef ". She wasnt highly intelligent!
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Thank the U.S. religious right and NGO parasites. Of course its ridiculous. None of the locals pay any attention to it in Asia nor Latin America. Hey, in Holland its 14 right? But as a U.S. citizen always keep it in mind or you might end up on Fox News.
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Hi David,
No, in Holland it is 18 also. Probably a reason is the extension of life expectancy almost all over the world. A century ago life expectancy in most european countries and the US was below 60 I think. So everything happened at a younger age.
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According to this link its 16 and in Spain, 13. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe[/url]
Its arbitrary anyway, in hardly any country is it 18. Thanks to U.S. and NGO parasite pressure, some countries have raised the age such as here in Peru where up until a few years ago it was 14 and is now 18. But as a lucky U.S. citizen you can still get busted. So just go for the 18 year old spinners in the Philippines..they look younger anyway.
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while we are on the **** topic, i want to share a disturbing conversation i had in a bar in cebu thee weeks ago. i pushed the girl i was with about ****d looking girls, and she confessed that her cousin, also present in the bar, is only 17. she had started at age 13 in the bar. i was surprised to say the least and she kept on telling me that her other friend in bar x started at age 10. she was chubby and had tits. small but still puffy tits.
shocked i asked her if it was mainly asians or "westerners" fucking her, and she replied that it was "americans, like you because she loves big dicks".
i replied: "ten years old and loves big dicks!".
"yes, even when she was ten she liked to drive a big dick". as you might know,"drive"is used for riding / cow girl by many pinays.
she kept on telling me that this was ten years ago and that many girls in their lower teens worked in bars back then.
i fucked a girl that was just 13 once. but i was 14, so i understand that sexual maturity does not start at 18. but to work as a prostitute getting pounded by old loosers at the age of 10 or 13, is just plain sad.
to quote what my buddy said when i told him about this conversation as we walked to the cab: "what a sick country this is."
b
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[QUOTE=David_33;1137260]Its arbitrary anyway, in hardly any country is it 18. Thanks to U.S. and NGO parasite pressure, some countries have raised the age such as here in Peru where up until a few years ago it was 14 and is now 18. But as a lucky U.S. citizen you can still get busted. So just go for the 18 year old spinners in the Philippines..they look younger anyway.[/QUOTE]According to Avert ([url]http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm[/url]) , it is 14 in Peru and 16/17 in most US States. But I guess it is better to err on the safe side and stick to 18 as a benchmark as many countries have a higher AoC for sexual acts that involve pecuniary gain.
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WhY dO FiLiPinAs oN dAtInG SiTeS FuCkInG WrItE LiKe ThIs? iT DrIvEs Me BaRmY!!
(except that I always ignore the morons:D)
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Attention deficit
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1137502]WhY dO FiLiPinA's oN dAtInG SiTeS FuCkInG WrItE LiKe ThIs? IT DrIvEs Me BaRmY!
(except that I always ignore the morons.) [/QUOTE]They call this language "Jejemon" a pop culture commonly used by young Filipinos. In North America, w can call them attention deficit disorders. Jejejeje.
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Young girls and their sexual proclivity
I think that some of the commentators here have no understanding of th reality of nature.
In western societies, rules have been enacted to restrict the age at which a female can begin her sexual activities.
Because these rules have been in place, most westerners think that this is the way that it should be.
But these rules have little or nothing to do with the natural instincts of females.
Her hormones will start at about 9, maybe younger.
Her instincts are to mate as soon as it is possible for her to become pregnant.
In countries and cultures where they are closer to nature, and acting in a natural way, it is common for girls to be sexually active at age 9. Sometimes younger.
I was initially outraged that my now ex wife got my stepdaughter into an active sex life at age 13 or 14. But then I realised that my ex was driven by the same instincts as her daughter. No harm done, as the girl was on the pill.
(however, this backfired when my step daughter became pregnant to a black basketball player. My ex is a total racist, and the black child almost caused her to lose her sanity)
So don't get so upset that a girl starts to work as a prostitute at age 13, or 10. It is not unusual in nature. And as for mothers pimping her daughter at age 14, no different to my ex.
Do a bit of study and research for yourself.
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just because a **** can have a sexuality, does not make it ok to make them prostitutes.
a child of age 2 will have a tendency to violence in certain situations, but that does not make it right to enlist him as a child solider in the sierra leone child army.
i am open minded and understand that this rhetoric panic regarding sexual behavior for ****s is a reflection of a) a fear to be singled out as the sick child [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] asshole that everyone wish to torture to death, b) that "what if it happens to my kids" and c) a general desire to protect all children from all bad.
of course most of us did at one point or another fantasize of a girl that happened to be under 18 but still sexy as hell. absurd if sexuality was to consider a switch that goes on at 18, just because a general need for "speed limits" is required and desired by most people in society.
my post was not a comment to the topic in general, but rather a reflection of a system and society that is so corrupt in its values and standards, that the hunt for a better material life will render these kids a 8 inch cock up their **** pussies. and no, these girls did not do this to survive. not according to the one girl i was talking to at least.
the sexuality itself is not my field to comment. it is a delicate thing to take a moral high ground and lecture the world that it is better to force feed 5 year olds the alphabet than to allow a 15 year old fuck whomever she wish.
but the preconditions for these children to be in these bars is just a perversion of man kinds desire to get more stuff at any cost. phones, clothes, shoes, shit. many of the prostitutes in the philippines are driven by simple material desires. sure they are victims of skewed believes in society as a whole, but still there is a choice, at least in the aspect that anyone has some sort of choice to make in life (free will versus determinism). but when we are considering children's freedom to choose, things gets much trickier. to put it simple; these bars are simply a negative and dark path for a child girl to walk down; hence it is not to be confused with some tribal openness to **** sex. in addition; the fact that some african tribes-men ram **** pussy on a daily basis, does not guarantee that this conduct provides neither a positive projection for mankind's evolution as a whole, nor a society that allows our own children to tumble through child hood with positive memories, stable mental health and a trust for adults.
a child soldiers body is prepared to pull the trigger at age 2, but his mind need another 20 years before having any form of capability to process what happens. empathy is perhaps the only real constraint, next to laws, that regulates our primitive behaviors efficiently, so it is important that we are honest about what is in each sides of the scale here. karma is not about a future cost / payback, but the price that you pay instantly by for example abusing yourself and your own empathy. sorry for sounding pretentious here but i think these kind of discussions way to often come to be about what "they" do here or there (practical matters, rules, culture, traditions, laws, etc) , and way to rarely touch what the real cost is for the subjects involved.
thank you for reading.
over and out in this topic for me.
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I agree with you Barba. I follow the same rules I always have. 18 and above is fair game. Anything under 18 is for the highschool boys to paw over. Following this rule I have never been in a precarious situation. If I am in a country where the legal age is under 18, I still check I'd for 18 or above. Hoping it is a valid I'd of course. But sometimes do wish I was 16 again and back in highschool. Those north american girls were good to go when I was that age. But I am not in highschool anymore. So 18 and above is perfect
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Using Gangle's model of hormonal and instinctual determinism, and extending it but a step in another direction would mean that a psychopath's instinctual penchant to kill merely to satisfy some inner need should be both tolerated and understood outside the framework of morality, empathy or respect. I would argue that biology is not the sole determinant of destiny, and that society constructs rules, moral codes and standards of ethical behavior not merely for it's own perpetuation but also, in part, to protect individuals from their own baser instincts. One of the predominant rules of many cultures speaks to the protection of children. Granted that the definition of childhood is somewhat arbitrary, but it does reflect some sort of collective judgment about the point at which individuals are able to make mature, informed life decisions. Coming from a Western culture, the belief that anyone under the age of 18 is a child is firmly implanted, and it's a standard that I would never violate. The point of course is not whether a young woman who has passed through puberty is biologically able, or even instinctually inclined, to mate. The point is whether she is emotionally and intellectually yet capable of making decisions that will, in large measure, impact the course of her life, which of course she is unable to do.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1137735]Using Gangle's model of hormonal and instinctual determinism, and extending it but a step in another direction would mean that a psychopath's instinctual penchant to kill merely to satisfy some inner need should be both tolerated and understood outside the framework of morality, empathy or respect. I would argue that biology is not the sole determinant of destiny, and that society constructs rules, moral codes and standards of ethical behavior not merely for it's own perpetuation but also, in part, to protect individuals from their own baser instincts. One of the predominant rules of many cultures speaks to the protection of children. Granted that the definition of childhood is somewhat arbitrary, but it does reflect some sort of collective judgment about the point at which individuals are able to make mature, informed life decisions. Coming from a Western culture, the belief that anyone under the age of 18 is a child is firmly implanted, and it's a standard that I would never violate. The point of course is not whether a young woman who has passed through puberty is biologically able, or even instinctually inclined, to mate. The point is whether she is emotionally and intellectually yet capable of making decisions that will, in large measure, impact the course of her life, which of course she is unable to do.
GE[/QUOTE]Wow, GE, after I fumbled through your last post, I had a headache.
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[QUOTE=Gangles; 1137548]I think that some of the commentators here have no understanding of th reality of nature.
I was initially outraged that my now ex wife got my stepdaughter into an active sex life at age 13 or 14. But then I realised that my ex was driven by the same instincts as her daughter. No harm done, as the girl was on the pill.
So don't get so upset that a girl starts to work as a prostitute at age 13, or 10. It is not unusual in nature. And as for mothers pimping her daughter at age 14, no different to my ex.
Do a bit of study and research for yourself.
G[/QUOTE]Your ex GOT her daughter into an active sex life at 13? She pushed her to FUCK? And you were initally outraged but ok with it now? Very Bizarre Parenting.
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GE, it's nice to know that at least one `member' can think with the Big Head too!
somewhere in here i guess it should be said that, `the ability to delay gratification is one of the hallmarks of adulthood'. (it's a terrible thing to say to you guys in my first post, but what the hell)
"when the balls turn blue, tis time to think of the little head too!"
if in doubt, check the i'd, and sleep peacefully! come back and hit that `[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]' next year on her 18th birthday.
none of us wants to do the `big walk of shame' on page one of the manilla star. and besides, it's the wrong kind of pr for us mongers. it's even worse than overpaying the wg's.
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sorry rg, i didn't mean my last post to sound as pretentious as it seems now that i re-read it. it just annoys me to read posts trying to rationalize having sex with children. to me, no matter how you dress it up, it's ****philia by another name. to use the onset of hormonal desire is, in my opinion, just another rationalization. the pages of the national papers here are chock full of stories about 12 year olds prostituting themselves because either they have no other means by which to stay alive, or their families are sacrificing the innocence of their children because they have no other means of getting money to pay for necessities. either way, it's sickening, and to somehow try to justify it is doubly sickening, at least to me.
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Well said GE. If there was a professorship for mongering ethics, then I guess that you would get the chair.
There are enough available girls in the legitimate 18-21 bracket (many looking much younger) that, legal and morality issues aside, why should any any man wish to look elsewhere. Not unless they have a proclivity for pubescent or, god forbid, pre-pubescent pussy. And in that case there is no hope for their sorry asses. But we all know that there are plenty of that ilk around in The Philippines and it is a rich hunting ground for them.
Not so many years ago, The Philippines, in response to external pressure, introduced the death penalty for certain classes of paedophile crimes and there were several high profile cases and, I believe, some executions. I imagine that the penalty is still on the statute book although I have not heard of any recent executions.
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22 and counting
I just said bye bye to my first DIA contact (see photo section) She's 22, had one pinoy bf and she's about the tightest little spinner a man could ever want. I'm thinking of searching out some older women to find out if they are as tight. As for the young stuff, I can't see the point of risking so much money, freedom and reputation when the more mature pussy is better and more willing.
As aside note to WICKED Roger, the man must be a genious to figure out how to ass fuck these girls. The girl I just shagged was willing but she had the smallest balloon knot I've even seen. My pinky wouldn't fit.
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so it was not over and out for me. when a lot of men rush to agree and pat backs, i always get curious.
i think we are talking about bebefilia and efebofilia, as well as ****philia. legally no difference, but let us use the correct definitions.
it is always easy to go all in and polarize ourselves hard against "the sick bastards", but maybe polarization is not the best way to evolve a society on this topic? war or diplomacy? or somewhere in between?
don't get me wrong, i am not in high school either and only fuck someone that is 18+. i ran into some 16 and 17 year old girls last trip and they where really nice, but i simply think the laws and general ethics of this area are good so i like to support and follow them. it is most likely not worth the risk or the regrets. children do nothing for me, and girls just under 18 are not that much better than the ones over 18, so why bother.
i once had a friend who was becoming a severe heroine addict, via the path of hash, amphetamines and other drugs. he is now jailed forever for stabbing people to death over money. i followed his sexual decay over a couple of years. as he got more ill minded from the drugs, he became more and more perverted. more was required to get him off. one of the last conversations we had was right before he was jailed. he had been walking in the forest and met a 12-13 year old girl and pretended to read her t-shirt while touching her little tits. fortunately the parents came.
i will spare you the stories of me being upset, etc. the hate for this behavior is natural. but at the same time this was a friend i once considered my brother. we traveled the world, and did everything together. he started out like a normal guy, and stepped on to the slipping slope and could not climb up again. i was confused on what had happened and what i was supposed to do.
in my belief, the total fear and panic over this topic is not helping the cause of executing these laws efficiently. no need for us law abiding good mongers to pat our backs and agree on how horrible this topic is. we are always running the risk of just striking our own egos and feeding the distance.
in my belief there is two ways to avoid a slipping slope. one is efficient, and one is less powerful when it comes to catching the ones that really needs to be caught.
the efficient one is to understand and accept the existence of the slope. gangles is in a way not arguing. he merely points to the disturbing facts. we all wish a 15 year old girl would not be sexy, since we agree that she is still a child, but sometimes she is sexy for some basic primitive part of our ego. now does acknowledging this means that we try to rationalize ourselves into taking the first step on that slope? i argue the opposite. knowledge and acknowledgment feeds responsible and responsive reactions, also to the darkest ideas generated in our most perverted moments. it is "cogito ergo sum". and not "i react therefore i am".
the random strategy is for me when a society act in panic or act to define themselves rather than to deal with the deviators. when we tense up and start to polarize. as one friend said on the topic of flag burning muslims."we used to have muslims, and now after the pictures of the prophet, we have angry muslims. what good does this gap do any of us?" different topic, same function of polarization. now do not get me wrong. i appreciate the clear and unambiguous message of for example mr ge. he provides guidelines. well founded reasons. a nail in the coffin to anyone maybe poking with his toe on that slope, thinking that maybe 16 would be ok. like the monger father of ethics. the disparate audience of isg requires clear messages and these are delivered. and then i come and try to be all philosophical and freudian. i once met an italian guy on rizal st in davao. some friends told me that he liked "very young girls". i talked to him, mentioning nothing. it was obvious he was torn and wanted to meet a legal girl."eighteen, small and cute", was the requirements. maybe small so he could close his eyes and pretend she was 14. after a few beers some guys wanted to beat him up for being a "sick **** asshole", and he ran off. most likely back to his hide out, where he had room service delivery, feeding his ill mind. i met him some days later and he was very vague on the topic of what he had been up to since last we met. would it have been better to not scare him off? you be the judge. maybe i should have just set the cops on him, but did not know what to tell them.
just to simplify this for everyone still wondering about how barba the best feels on this: explanations to why these desires are in humans can never ever serve as rationalizations or defense for the repugnant act of fucking a child. it is wrong and i am just as aggressive as anyone else when it comes to protecting my own offspring. i would torture the italian to death slowly, if he touched anyone even remotely sharing my dna or my circle of friends. but i also understand that this aggressive standpoint makes no difference in a true evolutionary sense. some smarter strategy for dealing with ill minds is required. minors can be found in abundance in the philippines. every month i hook up with a couple girls that are 15-17 years old. at first i am drewling over their profile pic, and then i get to know their age and get her the fuck off the list before some alarms sets off in some surveillance bunker. my last girl in cebu met a swedish guy in dia when she was 16. he took her cherry and fucked her over and over until he dumped her. he made it his quest to get her to open herself to her. no so hard, i can imagine.
sorry for this long post and please let this somewhat unidirectional blabber constitute a will for this forum to be less square and more open to the fact that we are not all binary minds. i rely that ge and someone else with more life experience will wrap this all up with some stable advice on how to catch also the ones that could actually have been saved from ending up on the manila star front page. clearly there is a gray zone, and how much would i not pay to know how many of the guys here really did draw the line at 18, at all points in their monger career.
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KY and Butt Plugs
The proper tools are needed to prepare the girl. And WR always seems to have all the tools he needs to get these tight girls ready to accept something larger.
Before learning about the proper tools, I had a gf that wanted to try anal. She made sure her ass was very clean, and insisted on me wearing a condom in case she missed anything. But when she tried to insert my penis, she was so dry that it hurt both of us. Needless to say, she swore that she would never try that again. I, however, did my due diligence to read up on the subject, and found that there were many things we could have done to make that first try much easier. I never got the chance to put that knowledge to use with her, as we broke up. But I have some that have told me they would happily give me their ass cherry when I get the opportunity to visit them. I can't wait!
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President Gloria's government abolished the death penalty, I think
[quote=cunning stunt; 1137847]well said ge. if there was a professorship for mongering ethics, then i guess that you would get the chair.
there are enough available girls in the legitimate 18-21 bracket (many looking much younger) that, legal and morality issues aside, why should any any man wish to look elsewhere. not unless they have a proclivity for pubescent or, god forbid, pre-pubescent pussy. and in that case there is no hope for their sorry asses. but we all know that there are plenty of that ilk around in the philippines and it is a rich hunting ground for them.
not so many years ago, the philippines, in response to external pressure, introduced the death penalty for certain classes of paedophile crimes and there were several high profile cases and, i believe, some executions. i imagine that the penalty is still on the statute book although i have not heard of any recent executions. [/quote]one of my pinay exes was raped by her father at age ten. he tied her up and raped her while her mom was sleeping in the next room, then he left the house. she told her mom the next morning, then she and her mom went to her lola, who marched them down to the police station and demanded that they arrest the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url]. i found this out by googling my girl's name, and the city, her age, and her mom's name all matched. when i look back on it, she never mentioned her father, just saying "wala" when i asked where he was. anyway, the scumbag was convicted and sentenced to death, then his death sentence was upheld on appeal. several years ago, a bunch of these slimeballs had their death sentences commuted to life in prison by president arroyo.
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[quote=rubio tonto;1138044]one of my pinay exes was raped by her father at age ten. he tied her up and raped her while her mom was sleeping in the next room, then he left the house. she told her mom the next morning, then she and her mom went to her lola, who marched them down to the police station and demanded that they arrest the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url]. i found this out by googling my girl's name, and the city, her age, and her mom's name all matched. when i look back on it, she never mentioned her father, just saying "wala" when i asked where he was. anyway, the scumbag was convicted and sentenced to death, then his death sentence was upheld on appeal. several years ago, a bunch of these slimeballs had their death sentences commuted to life in prison by president arroyo.[/quote]the philippines has the death sentence but no president will evoke it because the catholic church opposes the death sentence.
the church has major influence in the philippine way of life. just as no sex education in schools. no divorce.
no president has been willing to go against the church.
every death sentence is always commuted to life.
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Dia
So I'm kind of new to Date in Asia, and I'm wondering whats the best way to approach someone.
There also seems to be quite a few on there with "no photo no reply", and I'm not really keen on sending a photo first.
Thanks
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Digging for Gold
Why do these women pick their noses when they are on cam? I saw one a few minutes pick her nose and eat the fucking booger. And she was hot!
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[QUOTE=ThatGuy865; 1138065]The Philippines has the Death sentence but no president will evoke it because the Catholic Church opposes the death sentence.
The church has major influence in the Philippine way of life. Just as No sex education in schools. No Divorce.
No President has been willing to go against the Church.
Every death sentence is always commuted to life.[/QUOTE]You forget that Ramos, as a protestant pushed for population control and was succeeding during his time in office. Since Cardinal Sin passed on, there has been a decline in Churchs influence. Slowly the country is realising that having continued population is bad for its long term future. I see the Church; 's influence declining. For a Church that preaches moral standards Phils has some of lowest moral standard on the planet. Millions of girls unwed with kids, huge amounts of killings and kidnappings, . Not a lot of moral compass stuff there. Church thinks and says it has influence, and people pray a lot, but they do it so their neighbours can se them doing it, is my view.
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[QUOTE=Dex Xie; 1138072]So I'm kind of new to Date in Asia, and I'm wondering whats the best way to approach someone.
There also seems to be quite a few on there with "no photo no reply", and I'm not really keen on sending a photo first.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I think the girls generally are looking for a guy to have a profile pic so that they have some idea who they are dealing with. If you don't put a profile pic you will still have plenty of response but the girls with the more attractive pics / profiles who are often getting maybe 20-200 messages a day are likely to ignore you unless you have something very interesting to say in your message.
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1138144]Why do these women pick their noses when they are on cam? I saw one a few minutes pick her nose and eat the fucking booger. And she was hot![/QUOTE]In case you haven't noticed before, there are a lot of golddiggers out there.
But seriously, you are probably longing to put your dick in her mouth and fill it with your cum. Is that any better? Would you rather make out with her after that? I sure wouldn't
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[QUOTE=Slippery;1138144]Why do these women pick their noses when they are on cam? I saw one a few minutes pick her nose and eat the fucking booger. And she was hot![/QUOTE]Hahaha. There is no social stigma associated with nose picking in The Philippines. Similarly you will often see a girl rubbing or outright scratching at her pussy through her clothing in open view. They don't see anything wrong in it. If their pussies are itchy, scratch it and if they have a tasty booger lodged in their snack factory, pull it out and eat it:D.
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[QUOTE=Dex Xie; 1138072]So I'm kind of new to Date in Asia, and I'm wondering whats the best way to approach someone.
There also seems to be quite a few on there with "no photo no reply", and I'm not really keen on sending a photo first.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Do not take to serious about that. I never have a pic. Just try to write something slightly more interesting and tell them that you have cam and pictures to send. I think I loose maybe 30-40% of the contacts I PM, due to no pic, but I can not have my pic on these sites, so nothing to do about it. I only contact the pretty ones in age 18-20 normally. You just get to tease them, hook them and reel them in.
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Submissive BDSM GIrl
Interesting DIA profile from this 20 year old.
[QUOTE]I'm marie! Ve being submissive but ilove being dominant also. With ballgag, drolling having sex w8 tight
I'm 20 single mom. Working in a bar! Bfor. But I stop now. But I still had kinky doing just trying to make my own website, but right now I am one of the preformer of the site as camgirl. I really love my stuff. I hand handcuff. Rope, ballgag, ringgag, and ofcourse sexydress, highheels, suspenders. And ofcourse stocking! Ilove being feminen. [/QUOTE]Anyone been there? Sound like someone WR would be interested in or maybe he trained her;).
Took a look at her on webcam last night and she is tiny and cute and very amenable to instruction. Might give her a spin.
Looks better without the slap though:D.
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Same thing in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1138250]Hahaha. There is no social stigma associated with nose picking in The Philippines. :D.[/QUOTE]I've seen women with half their ARMS up their nose in Thailand. OH. But when it comes to picking shit out of your teeth with a toothpick. Make sure you cover your mouth first. If you don't it's not polite! Even my Thai GF laughs at other Thais about this!
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DIA fake photos
[QUOTE=Dex Xie; 1138072]So I'm kind of new to Date in Asia, and I'm wondering whats the best way to approach someone.
There also seems to be quite a few on there with "no photo no reply", and I'm not really keen on sending a photo first.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Many girls (and LB) state this in their profiles. I have even seen it in profiles that have no photo of their own. I also have seen some that are obvious fakes. They post photos of models, and other celebrities. So feel free to do the same. If you look somewhat similar to a celeb, copy a photo of them from some other web site, and post it in your profile. If a girl asks you why you don't look the same on cam, just tell her you gained weight, or that is a photo from when you were younger.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1138538]Many girls (and LB) state this in their profiles. I have even seen it in profiles that have no photo of their own. I also have seen some that are obvious fakes. They post photos of models, and other celebrities. So feel free to do the same. If you look somewhat similar to a celeb, copy a photo of them from some other web site, and post it in your profile. If a girl asks you why you don't look the same on cam, just tell her you gained weight, or that is a photo from when you were younger.
HW[/QUOTE]There's no need to do that HW.
I have never believed in fighting lies with more lies. I am not interested in women who put fake photos on DIA. It means so much else is probably fake too.
I have never had a pic there but I still get 3 or 4 hits a day from women because I use a by-line to hook their interest. It mentions the word "foreigner" and "living in the Phils" LOL. Never fails!
As Greg L said earlier, just send an interesting message about 10 lines long and they will forget their "no pic no reply" theory. I also say in my profile not to just say "Hi" or "How are you" but to tell me more about themselves if they are sending me a message.
I still average 50% who say "Hi" only so I just kick them into the trash basket. If they can't be bothered reading my profile and understanding it then they are not worth the trouble.
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5 photos
Met this girl on DIA
In her profile she says she never will never say no so I taked to her. She told me she does not do anal and will charge 5000 for LT I thought this was high I thought 3000 was the going rate maybe I am wrong. She did send me some pics of her if anyone wants to spend 5000.
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[QUOTE=Bonkers1;1138743]In her profile she says she never will never say no so I taked to her. She told me she does not do anal and will charge 5000 for LT I thought this was high I thought 3000 was the going rate maybe I am wrong. She did send me some pics of her if anyone wants to spend 5000.[/QUOTE]Here is her I'd on DIA if interested Yesenia69
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[QUOTE=Bonkers1;1138743]In her profile she says she never will never say no so I taked to her. She told me she does not do anal and will charge 5000 for LT I thought this was high I thought 3000 was the going rate maybe I am wrong. She did send me some pics of her if anyone wants to spend 5000.[/QUOTE]LOL. I say even 3000 is too much in that case. Same or better you will find in both MBC or havana
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1138538]Many girls (and LB) state this in their profiles. I have even seen it in profiles that have no photo of their own. I also have seen some that are obvious fakes. They post photos of models, and other celebrities. So feel free to do the same. If you look somewhat similar to a celeb, copy a photo of them from some other web site, and post it in your profile. If a girl asks you why you don't look the same on cam, just tell her you gained weight, or that is a photo from when you were younger.
HW[/QUOTE]Yes, Many put pictures which belong to somebody else. Some put the pictures when they were 15, 16 years old.
All put the best looking pics in different angles. I make it a point in saying no cam chat, no reply. In the cam you can really make out if you are interested in her. I have encountered some who have no teeth and constantly covering her mouth. I guess many do not have money to get fake teeth.
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[QUOTE=Bonkers1;1138743]In her profile she says she never will never say no so I taked to her. She told me she does not do anal and will charge 5000 for LT I thought this was high I thought 3000 was the going rate maybe I am wrong. She did send me some pics of her if anyone wants to spend 5000.[/QUOTE]500 and icing on the banana split would be max for this one.
She looks greedy even when eating that chocolate ice cream.
Why would anyone pay her 5K in Pi?
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1138763]Yes, Many put pictures which belong to somebody else. Some put the pictures when they were 15, 16 years old.[/QUOTE]I have Tineye extention installed in my firefox. Just rigthclik,"search on tineye" and voilΰ. Always fun to send the fakes the link to the page where they stole the photo. Not found so many on dia, but its a must on easter european datingsites.
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Is FilipinoCupid worth the membership fee?
I already have a DIA free account, but felt like it was getting a bit stale so I went ahead and filled out a profile over at FilipinoCupid because it was also free, or at least the set up was.
Now I have plenty of interest and a few messages there but the difference from DIA is that you can't read them unless you buy a membership. I am wondering if it's worth it or if it's just the same girls as on DIA. Maybe it's better because there are fewer paying members there and they can communicate with free members?
My goal is to set up dates for future trips and possibly find a true Filipina keeper.
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Well about time I jumped onto this board.
I was in Philippines last fall for three weeks. Before I was there I exclusively used FilipinaCupid, I have now moved over to DIA. In part because the ladies I met from FilipinoCupid are still there and I don't want to maintain contact. To me there seems to be a totally different group of DIA. Just my thoughts. I am on my way back in May, and I have found that I started my contacts there much too soon. I think about a month or two before arrival is best. More than that and their attention span is "oh look something shiny" And this is my first post.
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[QUOTE=Hank Moody; 1138943]I already have a DIA free account, but felt like it was getting a bit stale so I went ahead and filled out a profile over at FilipinoCupid because it was also free, or at least the set up was.
Now I have plenty of interest and a few messages there but the difference from DIA is that you can't read them unless you buy a membership. I am wondering if it's worth it or if it's just the same girls as on DIA. Maybe it's better because there are fewer paying members there and they can communicate with free members?
My goal is to set up dates for future trips and possibly find a true Filipina keeper. [/QUOTE]
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Oh boy
[QUOTE=Bonkers1;1138743]In her profile she says she never will never say no so I taked to her. She told me she does not do anal and will charge 5000 for LT I thought this was high I thought 3000 was the going rate maybe I am wrong. She did send me some pics of her if anyone wants to spend 5000.[/QUOTE]ST in Cebu is p500. 1000 will get you LT. 1700 at the Mango bars. 3000 at a few other bars. 5000? 3000? Jiminy!
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1138994]ST in Cebu is p500. 1000 will get you LT. 1700 at the Mango bars. 3000 at a few other bars. 5000? 3000? Jiminy![/QUOTE]You're right WC.
She is over-rating herself by around 3000 pesos at least but hey. If she can hook a sucker for 5000 she can get enough cash from that one trick that would normally take 4 or 5 to accumulate.
Her pics were fairly average (in my opinion) and not 5000 php quality.
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Yesenia69
Yesenia69 wrote me a long list of things she does not do. Stay away from her.
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Carla missie is confused
Hi there.I'm TAKEN BY HIM-
DESPERATELY LOOKING:
I'm CARLA. 18 years old from from Philippines cebu city. Born on March 25 1992.
I don't go to school and I don't have work. I am just at home. I don't go out just to have fun. I don't cook that much. I like to eat. I like to meet someone to be friends and if we click. Who knows.
Someone to support me financial. Emototional. For my study. Thats all. If interested let me.
Know. First come first serve.
WHAT I'm LOOKING FOR:
And I am looking for someone who is willing to marry me. (who is "HCIR with YENOM" <<read backward!
Who give me material things that I want and like. If you are "HCIR with YENOM" then you are the one I'm looking.
Someone who have good job, for our security. Financially stable for my study.
And support me and my Family. A good person
Desperately looking.
A BIG NOTICE:
Send me a message if you want to be added on my facebook account!
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist;1139344]Yesenia69 wrote me a long list of things she does not do. Stay away from her.[/QUOTE]I'll send her a message suggesting that she changes her user name to Noenia69(maybe):D.
Had 2 real fun girls (cucumber girl and friend) spend 3 hour struggling through traffic to visit me, the other day, from Bulacan and were happy to receive a fraction of what this, frankly unappealing, girl is asking. Look elsewhere.
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Yesenia writes me-
Hope its a business trip and not just a sex tour with a long list of DIA 'friends"!
We can exchange pics there if you like.
I don't do long chats or cam and please don't ask for dirty pics.
How long will you stay?
Yesenia.
Yes.
Remember I am the girl who cannot say NO!
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Perfect female profile
"Hi Guys I'm xyz.
I'm looking for a serious meaningful relationship. I'm a God fearing one man woman.
I like to cross stitch and my hobby is badminton.
I like walks on the beach with my Prince.
I like to meet foreigner to travel round the world.
I hope you are rich because I'm poor, I have 22 brothers and sisters.
I don't have a job as I'm now looking.
I'm simple and hope you are honest not liar man.
I'm serious and hope you will marry me "
PS I don't mind also if we meet for some bonking as all the above is crap that my sister told me to write "
LOL!
That seems to sum up 95% of all Filipina profiles
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Can take a horse to the water. Etc
Few weeks back some tosser sends me a PM saying " please share some numbers". Given that its not exactly difficult to obtains ladies digits I suggested politely that the forum wasnt designed for me to the digit collecting job for him.
Today said fellow " Share Xperience sends another PM " help me how to get numbers ".
If only Jackson imposed some sort of IQ requirement to enter ISG. Maybe there would be a lot less members. On second thoughts maybe I wouldn't quite qualify either.
So being a fine chap that I am. Share Xperience is looking for numbers. I suggest members contact him with number. Maybe send him a PM with 1 in it. Or a 2. Etc. Or if you think the fellow deserves a go, give him the number of a babe. Or a gay. LOL.
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So you think you're a pervert?
Found on DIA.
"if I believe"in miracle iknow that its its happening to me!
I'm marie! [U]ve being submissive but ilove being dominant also. With ballgag, drolling having sex w8 tight [/U]
I'm 20 single mom. Working in a bar! Bfor. But I stop now. But I still had kinky doing just trying to make my own website, but right now I am one of the preformer of the site as camgirl. [U] I really love my stuff. I hand handcuff. Rope, ballgag, ringgag, and ofcourse sexydress, highheels, suspenders. And ofcourse stocking! Ilove being feminen. [/U]I have 1 child cute baby boy I'm a bread winner in my family oldest sister have 14brother and sister. But happy family and I'm bless because all pf my sister and brother still studying I don't want to be like me bfor that they can experience hard life like to work in a bar. Thats why I'm working for them. To sacrifice my family ilove my family lots of experience even you compare me. To you! Ibelieve to my self especially the GOD MY AMBITION IS TO BE AN ARCHITECT. OR lawyer I'm not smart but thats the thing iwant. Iborn in bagiuo city its called here the cold place here in phillpines have step fther sicne I'm baby inever see my real father. Thats why iknow what is its hard to have a broken family but you can't say broken family mine because since I'm baby I have step father that stand the responsibilty. To me, I'm the person that much believe the facts than your saying than your word so much better you didn't promise me if you can't handle your promise! I'm.
Simply. But rock, easy going person. Love to travel and taking picture cooking, and drowing, taking a picture writing poem, I'm a funny. Easy going person and openminded but I have tooo split personalty some times moody sometimes jolly. Ilove to dance! [U]I want honest, and down to earth ilove dominant but romantic. Ilove to tight. Ilove bondage espeacially wen having sex yup weirdo. But who care! [/U]s get real ryt all person have kind differnt way that like! Same but in a different way! Mybe I'm nauthgy for you but imnot. I'm honest and loyal if ilove some one. My dream is to have married some day! I want seroius relationship! But I'm here in this site not to find some sex or relation I want nice friend. Only! Or yes mybe someday. We don't know what is happen! If you want to know me don't bola. Bola me. Because iknow foreigns LOL. Takecare!"
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Foto is not real. She is cam girl though. U are wasting your time.
[QUOTE=Fredje1961; 1139707]Found on DIA.
"if I believe"in miracle iknow that its its happening to me!
I'm marie! [U]ve being submissive but ilove being dominant also. With ballgag, drolling having sex w8 tight [/U]
I'm 20 single mom. Working in a bar! Bfor. But I stop now. But I still had kinky doing just trying to make my own website, but right now I am one of the preformer of the site as camgirl. [U] I really love my stuff. I hand handcuff. Rope, ballgag, ringgag, and ofcourse sexydress, highheels, suspenders. And ofcourse stocking! Ilove being feminen. [/U]I have 1 child cute baby boy I'm a bread winner in my family oldest sister have 14brother and sister. But happy family and I'm bless because all pf my sister and brother still studying I don't want to be like me bfor that they can experience hard life like to work in a bar. Thats why I'm working for them. To sacrifice my family ilove my family lots of experience even you compare me. To you! Ibelieve to my self especially the GOD MY AMBITION IS TO BE AN ARCHITECT. OR lawyer I'm not smart but thats the thing iwant. Iborn in bagiuo city its called here the cold place here in phillpines have step fther sicne I'm baby inever see my real father. Thats why iknow what is its hard to have a broken family but you can't say broken family mine because since I'm baby I have step father that stand the responsibilty. To me, I'm the person that much believe the facts than your saying than your word so much better you didn't promise me if you can't handle your promise! I'm.
Simply. But rock, easy going person. Love to travel and taking picture cooking, and drowing, taking a picture writing poem, I'm a funny. Easy going person and openminded but I have tooo split personalty some times moody sometimes jolly. Ilove to dance! [U]I want honest, and down to earth ilove dominant but romantic. Ilove to tight. Ilove bondage espeacially wen having sex yup weirdo. But who care! [/U]s get real ryt all person have kind differnt way that like! Same but in a different way! Mybe I'm nauthgy for you but imnot. I'm honest and loyal if ilove some one. My dream is to have married some day! I want seroius relationship! But I'm here in this site not to find some sex or relation I want nice friend. Only! Or yes mybe someday. We don't know what is happen! If you want to know me don't bola. Bola me. Because iknow foreigns LOL. Takecare!"[/QUOTE]
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Share Xperience by the sound of it asking everyone LOL. No help 4 someone that doesn't respect women. His crap on the indian board is not on, I would hate it 4 him to even try shit like that with anyone I know.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1139513]Few weeks back some tosser sends me a PM saying " please share some numbers". Given that its not exactly difficult to obtains ladies digits I suggested politely that the forum wasnt designed for me to the digit collecting job for him.
Today said fellow " Share Xperience sends another PM " help me how to get numbers ".
If only Jackson imposed some sort of IQ requirement to enter ISG. Maybe there would be a lot less members. On second thoughts maybe I wouldn't quite qualify either.
So being a fine chap that I am. Share Xperience is looking for numbers. I suggest members contact him with number. Maybe send him a PM with 1 in it. Or a 2. Etc. Or if you think the fellow deserves a go, give him the number of a babe. Or a gay. LOL. [/QUOTE]
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Too Much of a Good Thing here in Pussy Paradise?
I'm back in the Phils making up for the drought over recent months. And I am now connecting in person, and other private parts, with my small coterie of chat-mates built up through careful cultivation on DIA and YM.
But can you have (at least at my pensioner age) too much of a good thing? Five young sweeties 18-26 over 7 days mostly overnight; very, very nice. Where else in the world can you pair up in a "free" relationship with someone almost 50 years younger than you without the stigma of society pressure crashing down on your conscience?
Generally I build up a chat relationship over many weeks, sometimes months, and sometimes I retain my true and tried sweeties. But yesterday, knowing I had a gap in my today's daytime schedule, I chatted without cam with a 35 year old here in Cebu City. She had a somewhat appealing DIA picture, aided by her under 150cm (4'11") height and less than 35kg (77lb) in profile weight. We were supposed to meet at Robinson's at 11am today. The text messages flowed; my "where are you"s, were met by a "I am on my way" for an hour an a half. It turns out she was coming in from the back-blocks of LapuLapu and requiring 3 rides. Then the message,"I hope you don't mind, I am a little bit chubby". I said how can you be slim, under 35kgs and be chubby? But she assured me that her profile was true.
She turned up over an hour late, but I felt committed. She was attractive enough for a 35 year old, but yes, she had a good sized tyre around the middle parts. I bought her lunch, we walked to my hotel. She was cuddly enough, but saggy boobs from breast feeding 4 kids. Even with the prior priming of half a tablet of vitamin Cialis, it did nothing for me. So after a few hugs and some tv watching on her part I sent her on her way with a small pasalubong and 500 pesos for her "taxi".
The experience certainly taught me that I need to maintain my policy of a Yahoo cam chat before meeting anyone. It also has me wondering if there is too much of a good thing, or am I becoming more discriminating age wise? But tonight is another night. The call center cutie who stirred my blood last night is now again texting me and wants to come (cum?) again after her work tonight. And I think I will be up for it.
KongKing
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[QUOTE=Mc Don;1139839]Foto is not real. She is cam girl though. U are wasting your time.[/QUOTE]Wrong. Foto is real.
Correct. She is a cam girl.
Wrong. I assure you she is not a waste of time.
Fredje1961. I pointed out this unusual girl only 3 days ago ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=1138496&viewfull=1#post1138496[/url])
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CS. I have been with her on cam. Photo is FAKE. She admitted it, infect she bought it up. Waste of time, she has stood me up twice, for a local that has time I guess its fine but for us in and out she is a time waster. You may want to talk to her about her 22yr old more experienced friend that is also into bondage. And yes, she has handcuffs LOL.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1139943]Wrong. Foto is real.
Correct. She is a cam girl.
Wrong. I assure you she is not a waste of time.
Fredje1961. I pointed out this unusual girl only 3 days ago (
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=1138496&viewfull=1#post1138496[/url]
) [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mc Don;1139965]CS. I have been with her on cam. Photo is FAKE. She admitted it, infect she bought it up. Waste of time, she has stood me up twice, for a local that has time I guess its fine but for us in and out she is a time waster. You may want to talk to her about her 22yr old more experienced friend that is also into bondage. And yes, she has handcuffs LOL.[/QUOTE]Er excuse me Don, but do you think I would take the time and trouble to contradict two of your points if I did not know the girl, and I mean in person, not on cam. Despite anything she might tell you to the contrary, I can assure you that her profile picture on DIA is 100% GENUINE. She has quite unusual facial bone structure for a Pinay, which at first made me suspect that she was a Ladyboy so, before meeting her, I insisted on a cam preview which definitely proved she was all women. I can assure you that Marie, in the flesh, is one pretty hot package and a lot of fun.
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[QUOTE=KongKing; 1139907]It also has me wondering if there is too much of a good thing.
KongKing[/QUOTE]Orlando:
Then love me, Rosalind.
Rosalind:
Yes, faith, will I, Fridays and Saturdays and all.
Orlando:
And wilt thou have me?
Rosalind:
Ay, and twenty such.
Orlando:
What sayest thou?
Rosalind:
Are you not good?
Orlando:
I hope so.
Rosalind:
Why then, can one desire too much of a good thing?
B
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Hi
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1139841]Share Xperience by the sound of it asking everyone LOL. No help 4 someone that doesn't respect women. His crap on the indian board is not on, I would hate it 4 him to even try shit like that with anyone I know.[/QUOTE]what is wrong?
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Thank you, will give it a shot next time. Wasn't meant to offend you, I only went on what she told me and her webcam. I will try her again next time I am in.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1140000]Er excuse me Don, but do you think I would take the time and trouble to contradict two of your points if I did not know the girl, and I mean in person, not on cam. Despite anything she might tell you to the contrary, I can assure you that her profile picture on DIA is 100% GENUINE. She has quite unusual facial bone structure for a Pinay, which at first made me suspect that she was a Ladyboy so, before meeting her, I insisted on a cam preview which definitely proved she was all women. I can assure you that Marie, in the flesh, is one pretty hot package and a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]
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I had a very chubby gal insist (after the fact) that her profile was accurate even though I met her and confirmed that she was. Well, very chubby.. Not 90lb.
I don't spend much time on cam as KK does, but I do ask "how many kids" and "do you have other pics on the net".
KK, if you spend time as you say, wouldn't you be better off with Cherry blossom or other sites?
X.
[QUOTE=KongKing; 1139907]I'm back in the Phils making up for the drought over recent months. And I am now connecting in person, and other private parts, with my small coterie of chat-mates built up through careful cultivation on DIA and YM.
But can you have (at least at my pensioner age) too much of a good thing? Five young sweeties 18-26 over 7 days mostly overnight; very, very nice. Where else in the world can you pair up in a "free" relationship with someone almost 50 years younger than you without the stigma of society pressure crashing down on your conscience?
Generally I build up a chat relationship over many weeks, sometimes months, and sometimes I retain my true and tried sweeties. But yesterday, knowing I had a gap in my today's daytime schedule, I chatted without cam with a 35 year old here in Cebu City. She had a somewhat appealing DIA picture, aided by her under 150cm (4'11") height and less than 35kg (77lb) in profile weight. We were supposed to meet at Robinson's at 11am today. The text messages flowed; my "where are you"s, were met by a "I am on my way" for an hour an a half. It turns out she was coming in from the back-blocks of LapuLapu and requiring 3 rides. Then the message,"I hope you don't mind, I am a little bit chubby". I said how can you be slim, under 35kgs and be chubby? But she assured me that her profile was true.
She turned up over an hour late, but I felt committed. She was attractive enough for a 35 year old, but yes, she had a good sized tyre around the middle parts. I bought her lunch, we walked to my hotel. She was cuddly enough, but saggy boobs from breast feeding 4 kids. Even with the prior priming of half a tablet of vitamin Cialis, it did nothing for me. So after a few hugs and some tv watching on her part I sent her on her way with a small pasalubong and 500 pesos for her "taxi".
The experience certainly taught me that I need to maintain my policy of a Yahoo cam chat before meeting anyone. It also has me wondering if there is too much of a good thing, or am I becoming more discriminating age wise? But tonight is another night. The call center cutie who stirred my blood last night is now again texting me and wants to come (cum?) again after her work tonight. And I think I will be up for it.
KongKing[/QUOTE]
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What is wrong
[quote=share xprience;1140056]what is wrong?[/quote]we're not prepared to help [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url] (see your report from bangalore sept 29 2009)
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For the Cebu guys.
Girl who has her name listed as a fone number 0907 etc (half decent pic) 19, (try cebu city search) has exams tomorrow and no money to pay them. She's up for it tonight in case anyone can get her.
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Summertime Fun
Ah, now is the best time to be in The Philippines and looking to hitch up with a student. Most schools and colleges have now broken up for the summer recess and all those lovely young things are getting bored stuck at home with little money and weeks of ennui stretched ahead of them. They are getting desperate for a little fun to alleviate the tedium.
I've already been approached by several DIA 18-19 year old students that I had previously wanted to meet but were too busy with their schedule. Now they are almost biting my hand off. Have a rendezvous later with a gorgeous, tight bodied 19 year old who is promising to do disgusting things to me and have another lined up for tomorrow.
Fill your boots time:D.
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[quote=fredje1961;1140249]we're not prepared to help [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url] (see your report from bangalore sept 29 2009)[/quote]share xprience will not get it that he will sentenced to 7 to 10 yrs prison in western countries and shot immeditely with a bullet in his brain, cateched in thailand or phils, doing this what he reported in his previous known post here.
i am not a moralist but i put a clear line here.
ram
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Travel expenses
I assume it is customary to pay for travel expenses afterwards (if they are located somewhat nearby, which doesn't cost that much money). However, for a longer trip, I would assume that you have to up front the money. Which is a slight risk given that they may just keep the money and not show up.
Given that, what is a good reliable and cheap way to send money if you're in PI (or from abroad)? WU price seems somewhat steep.
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Xoom
[QUOTE=Dex Xie; 1140690]I assume it is customary to pay for travel expenses afterwards (if they are located somewhat nearby, which doesn't cost that much money). However, for a longer trip, I would assume that you have to up front the money. Which is a slight risk given that they may just keep the money and not show up.
Given that, what is a good reliable and cheap way to send money if you're in PI (or from abroad)? WU price seems somewhat steep. [/QUOTE]Xoom is only couple of dollars, but you have to send at least $50.
Moneygram while in-country
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[QUOTE=Dex Xie; 1140690]I assume it is customary to pay for travel expenses afterwards (if they are located somewhat nearby, which doesn't cost that much money). However, for a longer trip, I would assume that you have to up front the money. Which is a slight risk given that they may just keep the money and not show up.
Given that, what is a good reliable and cheap way to send money if you're in PI (or from abroad)? WU price seems somewhat steep. [/QUOTE]I use orbit remit find it to be excellent service
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30 yrs old Filipina seeks nice sucker to save her
For now, I'm working here in Hong Kong as a Domestic helper for heck! I can't find a good paying job in my Country. I do household chores. Hahaha! I love working for my family then suddenly, I realized, it's time for me settle, am getting old, I want you to save me. . I grew up in a poor family, and God, am not after your money. .
I am a homebody person, not a party goer. .
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[QUOTE=Dex Xie;1140690]I assume it is customary to pay for travel expenses afterwards (if they are located somewhat nearby, which doesn't cost that much money). However, for a longer trip, I would assume that you have to up front the money. Which is a slight risk given that they may just keep the money and not show up.[/QUOTE]You DO NOT have to send money upfront Dex. If a girl is keen to meet you she will find a way to get to where you want her to go. Very big risk (not a slight risk) that she will keep the money (especially if it's a plane fare of something more than 1000 php). There is ALWAYS some urgent bill to be paid or junior needs a new pair of shoes and suddenly they have cash-in-hand.
Paying large amounts to fly a girl to meet you is high risk in many other ways too. If she turns out to not be what you had hoped for, you are stuck with her for at least a reasonable time until you can send her home again. I have had several meetings like this with local girls, and it is easy to just send them away after a 5 minute meeting. It is not so easy if she has travelled from afar.
I always offer to pay taxi fare if they are nearby, because at least it means they will show up reasonably closer to the expected time and not have to take 3 or 4 smelly jeepney rides to reach me.
I give them return taxi fare too. If they choose to go home the long way to save cash then that's their business.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1140873]You DO NOT have to send money upfront Dex. If a girl is keen to meet you she will find a way to get to where you want her to go. Very big risk (not a slight risk) that she will keep the money (especially if it's a plane fare of something more than 1000 php). There is ALWAYS some urgent bill to be paid or junior needs a new pair of shoes and suddenly they have cash-in-hand.
Paying large amounts to fly a girl to meet you is high risk in many other ways too. If she turns out to not be what you had hoped for, you are stuck with her for at least a reasonable time until you can send her home again. I have had several meetings like this with local girls, and it is easy to just send them away after a 5 minute meeting. It is not so easy if she has travelled from afar.
I always offer to pay taxi fare if they are nearby, because at least it means they will show up reasonably closer to the expected time and not have to take 3 or 4 smelly jeepney rides to reach me.
I give them return taxi fare too. If they choose to go home the long way to save cash then that's their business. [/QUOTE]Dex, I'm going to have to thumbs-up what RK has just said. If she's that far away that it takes a ferry ride or plane ride, find more local talent. Tell her you will see her on your next trip when you are in her area. There is plenty of talent closer to wherever you are. If she's not within taxi distance, she's too far away. Or if she's near / dear to you, consider traveling to her province. Like RK, I reimburse them for taxi fare both ways.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1140873]You DO NOT have to send money upfront Dex. If a girl is keen to meet you she will find a way to get to where you want her to go. Very big risk (not a slight risk) that she will keep the money (especially if it's a plane fare of something more than 1000 php). There is ALWAYS some urgent bill to be paid or junior needs a new pair of shoes and suddenly they have cash-in-hand.[/QUOTE]The most common excuse is, while I send money for flight, they decide to take ferry, as they 'want to experience ferry', instead of telling that the flight money was spent on other things. And she just about had enough for ferry.
And even closer to Manila, when I tell them to take cab, they take public transport, either because they don't have money to pay for cab, and no amount of promises to meet at the door and pay the cab fare works. Mostly.
And if she is a repeat visitor, and you gave her extra money to come back the next day, same shit happens.
Hell, I always tell them to turn up at 2 PM, if I need them to turn up at 6 PM. So they turn up at 7 PM.
Well, dealing with most of the pinays, you got to have a strong head and lot of patience, of course, the rewards are great anyway.
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Thanks for the advice, I guess that will change my itinerary for my upcoming trip.
On the side note, I'm becoming quite knowledgeable of Philippines geography now.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1140873]You DO NOT have to send money upfront Dex. If a girl is keen to meet you she will find a way to get to where you want her to go. Very big risk (not a slight risk) that she will keep the money (especially if it's a plane fare of something more than 1000 php). There is ALWAYS some urgent bill to be paid or junior needs a new pair of shoes and suddenly they have cash-in-hand.
Paying large amounts to fly a girl to meet you is high risk in many other ways too. If she turns out to not be what you had hoped for, you are stuck with her for at least a reasonable time until you can send her home again. I have had several meetings like this with local girls, and it is easy to just send them away after a 5 minute meeting. It is not so easy if she has travelled from afar.
I always offer to pay taxi fare if they are nearby, because at least it means they will show up reasonably closer to the expected time and not have to take 3 or 4 smelly jeepney rides to reach me.
I give them return taxi fare too. If they choose to go home the long way to save cash then that's their business. [/QUOTE]There are pros and cons. The province girls tend to be sweeter and genuine compared to girls around major cities.
Yes, you need to fly them in by sending a ticket and some money for transport and airport fees. I have sent few times about $120 U. S for this. Out of many only one girl failed to show up. My success rate is good. Approximately 6000 Pesos is very good money for the girls. They can easily pocket it. But the caveat is you need to promise to buy some gifts, extra money etc to get them to think there is more money and gifts waiting. This way chances are better that they will show up. Belive me if these province girls show it is great compared to used up working girls you find elsewhere. The cost of getting a girl in EDSA for one night will equal to 6000 Pesos you spend for the ticket and the company of the girl for whole week. Ofcourse other gifts and money will add up to few thousands of pesos but for a sweet innocent girl I am willing to take a chance.
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[QUOTE=Sammon; 1141144]There are pros and cons. The province girls tend to be sweeter and genuine compared to girls around major cities.
Yes, you need to fly them in by sending a ticket and some money for transport and airport fees. I have sent few times about $120 U. S for this. Out of many only one girl failed to show up. My success rate is good. Approximately 6000 Pesos is very good money for the girls. They can easily pocket it. But the caveat is you need to promise to buy some gifts, extra money etc to get them to think there is more money and gifts waiting. This way chances are better that they will show up. Belive me if these province girls show it is great compared to used up working girls you find elsewhere. The cost of getting a girl in EDSA for one night will equal to 6000 Pesos you spend for the ticket and the company of the girl for whole week. Ofcourse other gifts and money will add up to few thousands of pesos but for a sweet innocent girl I am willing to take a chance. [/QUOTE]I don't get this. Why fly in someone from the province in a major city where there is pussy galore. Forget EDSA if that is not your thing. If you are after DIA chicks there is plenty in manila. One of the local crew here mentioned once that he had success picking up chicks in a supermarket, well I did that in December in Ortegas and it works. Just be creative. This is the land of money and honey so flash it when you need to, smile and be polite and you will do well. I really don't get this flying in chicks, I can understand it if you organise to say meet in Boracay so that you get a holiday plus have her on the side but to fly anyone into Manila is crazy.
Oh and by the way, I once did bring in a girl from Tarlac to Manila. 19 year old sweaty that I decided to keep for few more days while in Makati plus wanted company in the car for the duration of the trip. Guess what, she found the whole thing so intimidating that I had to send her ass home the same day. We got in Manila in the morning, went to MOA and Greenbelt and by the afternoon her mood changed and she wanted to go home. She had never been away from her province and she found the whole thing very scary. This by the way is a girl that I knew and spent few days with on 3 previous trips and I am still in touch with.
Look local, and within your planned itinerary. There is millions of them in Manila that would be happy to meet you and have fun with you. You can ditch them easier for whatever reason and vice versa if she is not happy she can leave. Last thing you want is an unhappy girl that will not perform but won't leave because she doesn't have the money to do so. Look local, think local. You will have more fun with someone that knows the city well and has similar interests to yours.
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[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1141148]I don't get this. Why fly in someone from the province in a major city where there is pussy galore. Forget EDSA if that is not your thing. If you are after DIA chicks there is plenty in manila. One of the local crew here mentioned once that he had success picking up chicks in a supermarket, well I did that in December in Ortegas and it works. Just be creative. This is the land of money and honey so flash it when you need to, smile and be polite and you will do well. I really don't get this flying in chicks, I can understand it if you organise to say meet in Boracay so that you get a holiday plus have her on the side but to fly anyone into Manila is crazy.
Oh and by the way, I once did bring in a girl from Tarlac to Manila. 19 year old sweaty that I decided to keep for few more days while in Makati plus wanted company in the car for the duration of the trip. Guess what, she found the whole thing so intimidating that I had to send her ass home the same day. We got in Manila in the morning, went to MOA and Greenbelt and by the afternoon her mood changed and she wanted to go home. She had never been away from her province and she found the whole thing very scary. This by the way is a girl that I knew and spent few days with on 3 previous trips and I am still in touch with.
Look local, and within your planned itinerary. There is millions of them in Manila that would be happy to meet you and have fun with you. You can ditch them easier for whatever reason and vice versa if she is not happy she can leave. Last thing you want is an unhappy girl that will not perform but won't leave because she doesn't have the money to do so. Look local, think local. You will have more fun with someone that knows the city well and has similar interests to yours. [/QUOTE]I agree that the province girls are generally sweeter and less refined than the girls around the city. There are far fewer foreigners who visit the distant provinces, and money is much more scarce there. For girls in Illigan city or Tacloban. 1000 pesos is like a fortune! Another reason I like girls in the far provinces is they are much less likely to be shaved or use makeup. Personally, I HATE when a girl shaves, or seems unnatural in any way.
Whenever I've visited the provinces, particularly in Mindanao, the girls come to me like bees on honey, and I am certainly no Brad Pitt! Air fares
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[QUOTE=Mc Don;1141148]Look local, and within your planned itinerary. Look local, think local. You will have more fun with someone that knows the city well and has similar interests to yours.[/QUOTE]In 10001 agreement. I've flown in girls before and in reality got bored within hours. Now I get local girls and ocassionally get bored, but at least its a local girl and I'm bored theres a " honey, wife suddenly said she's flying in, you have to leave " LOL. That always gets them out the door.
Now I fly them in for my business trips. And therefor will be enjoying the delights of Singapore this week with a Filipina who enjoys all holes bared, who doesn't mind some public nudity, and who loves me madly. Way better than trolling Orchard Towers for Burgos rejects.
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1141150]I agree that the province girls are generally sweeter and less refined than the girls around the city. There are far fewer foreigners who visit the distant provinces, and money is much more scarce there. For girls in Illigan city or Tacloban. 1000 pesos is like a fortune! Another reason I like girls in the far provinces is they are much less likely to be shaved or use makeup. Personally, I HATE when a girl shaves, or seems unnatural in any way.
Whenever I've visited the provinces, particularly in Mindanao, the girls come to me like bees on honey, and I am certainly no Brad Pitt! Air fares[/QUOTE]I am with you on the province part, if you are comfortable hunting there then do so. I don't agree with flying them into the big smoke.
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[QUOTE=Mc Don;1141298]I am with you on the province part, if you are comfortable hunting there then do so. I don't agree with flying them into the big smoke.[/QUOTE]I agree entirely.
I never said I don't prefer provincial girls. I was simply making the point in my earlier post that there is a definite risk that the girl you fly in to the major city will not live up to expectations and you are stuck with her.
But it often works for you to go to a city closer to her home town and then transport her to meet you there. Just remember that some of these provincial towns / cities are very small and if the girl is a "looker" she will be well-known and may be embarrassed to meet you unless it is done discreetly.
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Have you eaten
Ok, most of us know that the "have you eaten " question realy is code for how are you / can you buy me chocolates / can we meet soon? Or whatever codes are used.
However, for us Westerners, its a question concerning whether we have partaken of the delights of a meal period.
Therefor when recently calling a new prospect, by phone to enquire as to her health she enquired whether I had eaten.
I replied I was having lunch.
The signal got cut and on restablishing conversatuino with her, she asks if I have eaten. Now either she didn't hear me, has no brains or thinks I'm so old as to have immediately forgotten she has asked that moments before.
I would put money on the fact she has no brains. But she does have tits so she's forgiven.
In similar vein I was talking to another new prospect, and as the call took place at 8pm she courteously asks if I've had my "snacks". I told her I would take dinner later.
She insisted that I put the phone down and have "snacks". Bless her. I went and had a crap and duly returned 5 minutes later having told her that yes I had indeed " snacked". She breathed an audible sigh of relief.
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LOL, I would love to hear what you make out of this. One girl every trip txts me for the duration, and that can be few weeks at time. Eat your breakfast at around 8-9am then eat your lunch at 1 then ear your dinner at 7. Simpleton to the max but hey it is annoying the hell out of me. But like you said she has tits.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1141795]Ok, most of us know that the "have you eaten " question realy is code for how are you / can you buy me chocolates / can we meet soon? Or whatever codes are used.
However, for us Westerners, its a question concerning whether we have partaken of the delights of a meal period.
Therefor when recently calling a new prospect, by phone to enquire as to her health she enquired whether I had eaten.
I replied I was having lunch.
The signal got cut and on restablishing conversatuino with her, she asks if I have eaten. Now either she didn't hear me, has no brains or thinks I'm so old as to have immediately forgotten she has asked that moments before.
I would put money on the fact she has no brains. But she does have tits so she's forgiven.
In similar vein I was talking to another new prospect, and as the call took place at 8pm she courteously asks if I've had my "snacks". I told her I would take dinner later.
She insisted that I put the phone down and have "snacks". Bless her. I went and had a crap and duly returned 5 minutes later having told her that yes I had indeed " snacked". She breathed an audible sigh of relief. [/QUOTE]
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Where are you going?
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1141860]LOL, I would love to hear what you make out of this. One girl every trip txts me for the duration, and that can be few weeks at time. Eat your breakfast at around 8-9am then eat your lunch at 1 then ear your dinner at 7. Simpleton to the max but hey it is annoying the hell out of me. But like you said she has tits.[/QUOTE]I have been to Philippines only once. However, there are some peculiar Filipino customs that I noticed.
One such peculiarity is people asking you "Where are you going?" I am sure that this question does not carry the same meaning as someone asking the same question in the western world.
The first time a nice hotel help asked me this question after I have been in the hotel for one week, my instinct was "None of your damn business!" However, I didn't say. The person that asked me this question had been one of the nicest person at the hotel my whole trip (he would open the door and greet me cheerfully on my returns every time). I didn't mouth my instinctual reaction. I presumed that he must have been just concerned about me and was getting un-profesionally too familiar and nosy with guests. I held back my initial thoughts and replied "across the street." Later the same day, I read somewhere that the expression is a common greeting among Filipinos. Apparently,"over there" is the expected Filipino response to "where are you going?" LOL.
Could it be that "have you eaten" is a way of showing that they care about you?
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I think most guys have been sitting with one hand on the dick and one on th keyboard, chatting with some provincial promise that is close to nothing you plan to visit, but still way better than the porn on redtube. The imaginary undressing of little miss province provides excitement in the boredom behind the desk. Plans are made. Money might exchange owner. And then two weeks later sitting in the plane, all worn down by cyalis and hard core punani hunting / pounding, one thinks;
"What the fuck was I thinking when I wanted to fly in that girl? Why did I even bother to chat with her".
It is like bringing you own whine when touring the Loire Valley. I have even gone so far as to eliminate anyone more than 3 hours away from wherever I stay. If I wanted to wait for women, I could stay in Europe. I used to stand there in the mall waiting and texting, but what is the point wasting precious hours?
These warm up chats are a good little fore play to a trip to Asia but far from needed. One can question if they even are efficient or if it is perhaps way better to not make plans and keep your eyes on what is passing by rather than on the phone.
The solution for me is not to make more plans and "prepare for more encounters" but simply to get my ass in the hot zone more frequently. There are normal girls everywhere. Provincial girls come to the city every day to find work, visit someone or just spend the 500 peso the last yearning provider sent them.
All the bets from Barba, trying to find a new excuse to visit the land of sun and fun
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Have you eaten? Vs How are you?
It seems to me that all of Asia is more concerned about food. Chinese will ask (in English) have you 'taken' (not 'eaten') your lunch just like a concerned mother would ask have you 'taken' your medicine.
The same people will ask infinite questions about the food on the menu such is the level of concern. Food is considered liek medicines. And there is probably soem wisdom in that.
Yes in some Asian countries they will ask 'have you eaten? ' . To us that's either too personal or an invitation to eat. But its not.
Think of it exactly the same as if you were asked 'how are you? ' in the west. We don't really care how your health is (well not too much) its just an automatic greeting.
Eating on time seems unique to the Philippines. In my limited experience. On time eating seems to be blamed for many illness. I came across a cousin who had some serious mental deficiencies and when I asked, the answer was that his mental state was caused by him not eating his meals on time.
I'm sure some expert can tell us more but for now
1. Go with the flow, they are just being friendly.
2. Understand and accept that to them, some of YOUR habits and sayings are equally weird!
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It is a way to show endearment. A girl friend will txt this to her boy friend and vice versa.
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[QUOTE=Radoboy; 1141968]It seems to me that all of Asia is more concerned about food. Chinese will ask (in English) have you 'taken' (not 'eaten') your lunch just like a concerned mother would ask have you 'taken' your medicine.
The same people will ask infinite questions about the food on the menu such is the level of concern. Food is considered liek medicines. And there is probably soem wisdom in that.
Yes in some Asian countries they will ask 'have you eaten? '. To us that's either too personal or an invitation to eat. But its not.
Think of it exactly the same as if you were asked 'how are you? ' in the west. We don't really care how your health is (well not too much) its just an automatic greeting.
Eating on time seems unique to the Philippines. In my limited experience. On time eating seems to be blamed for many illness. I came across a cousin who had some serious mental deficiencies and when I asked, the answer was that his mental state was caused by him not eating his meals on time.
I'm sure some expert can tell us more but for now
1. Go with the flow, they are just being friendly.
2. Understand and accept that to them, some of YOUR habits and sayings are equally weird![/QUOTE]I know exactly what you are saying. After 25 years of living full time in Asia I've been asked an incredible amount of times about my eating habits. However sometimes its used to extremes, where a girl lacks any other conversational skills. Thats when it becomes a chore to endlessly answer the same old same old.
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[QUOTE=Barba;1141954]"What the fuck was I thinking when I wanted to fly in that girl? Why did I even bother to chat with her".[/quote]Considering taking a girl for a trip, I ask myself 'Would I enjoy spending time with this person if she didn't have sex with me at all?' If the answer is no, then I don't fly them anywhere. Once you scored and the hormone goggles come off, its "what the f was I thinking? How do I get rid of her now?" time
RE: Meal obsession "Have you eaten your breakfast/lunch/merenda/dinner"
It just means the girl has plenty of free time to waste on texting and wants to remind you of her existence but has Nothing interesting to say so its "Have you eaten your lunch?".. a sure sign of an emptyheaded doll with a brain the size of a peanut.
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Have you eaten?
I remember when I was in my early twenties I had a good friend and each time when I was at his place, his mom used to ask me if I'd eaten.
This was in Western Europe.
[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010;1141892]Could it be that "have you eaten" is a way of showing that they care about you?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1142088]Considering taking a girl for a trip, I ask myself 'Would I enjoy spending time with this person if she didn't have sex with me at all?' If the answer is no, then I don't fly them anywhere. Once you scored and the hormone goggles come off, its "what the f was I thinking? How do I get rid of her now?" time[/QUOTE]That to me is the best post I have read in some time.
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Have you eaten?
This is the Asian cultural equivalent to the western "How are you?" Think how you treat that question when you get it in the west. It's a formality to be tossed away quickly to get to the conversation. How inane is it, really? Take the Asian equivalent the same way, a courtesy characteristic of the Asian culture. If you want to know how "have you eaten?" got embedded in Asian greetings, just look at the long history of famines in the region.
To say it in Tagalog, it's "kakain ka na ba?" or similar words. So when you hear locals starting a conversation with that phrase, you know it's not you, they all say this with each other.
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Yep.
That's it exactly, Fin."Kakain ka na ba?" is the Filipino equivalent of the "How's it going?" or "What's going on, buddy?" often heard in the US.
[QUOTE=Finrod; 1142283]This is the Asian cultural equivalent to the western "How are you?" Think how you treat that question when you get it in the west. It's a formality to be tossed away quickly to get to the conversation. How inane is it, really? Take the Asian equivalent the same way, a courtesy characteristic of the Asian culture. If you want to know how "have you eaten?" got embedded in Asian greetings, just look at the long history of famines in the region.
To say it in Tagalog, it's "kakain ka na ba?" or similar words. So when you hear locals starting a conversation with that phrase, you know it's not you, they all say this with each other. [/QUOTE]
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Thanks Finrod, this is excellent info.
And we should also recognize that families eat together. And when you take a gal out on a date, well, you usually share a meal. And some of my best "dates" were those where I cooked. (not in the Philippines of course)
And when I barfine, I always ask the gal if she's hungry. Not sure if sharing a postbarfine 2am meal improves the GFE, but what the hell.
And trying to get back on the thread of "chat", I have to go eat is one of my favorite excuses to end a boring chat.
X
[QUOTE=Finrod; 1142283]This is the Asian cultural equivalent to the western "How are you?" Think how you treat that question when you get it in the west. It's a formality to be tossed away quickly to get to the conversation. How inane is it, really? Take the Asian equivalent the same way, a courtesy characteristic of the Asian culture. If you want to know how "have you eaten?" got embedded in Asian greetings, just look at the long history of famines in the region.
To say it in Tagalog, it's "kakain ka na ba?" or similar words. So when you hear locals starting a conversation with that phrase, you know it's not you, they all say this with each other. [/QUOTE]
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Date in Asia.
Sexylhei28.
Door girl. She looks like her pic, but if you see the whole package you might reconsider. Legs look like she's hiked up Mt. Apo a few times.
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DIA crystal143 in MNL, gives her phone number and promises a good time, but I wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole. CS, can you test this one out for us? X
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[QUOTE=X Man; 1142409]Thanks Finrod, this is excellent info.
Not sure if sharing a postbarfine 2am meal improves the GFE, but what the hell.
X[/QUOTE]It does. It means you are nice guy, respectful and you will treat her good. Money well spent, much better then giving a large tip at the end of the deed when really there is nothing else to gain (not much anyway).
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Aren't we glorifying things now?
Does not take Sigmund Freud to figure out that the empty food related questions in some sense constitutes some act of care, but I would like to throw in boredom, control, and / or lack of effort / courage to have a real conversation, as well. I have been subjected to all of these versions of the food inquiries. Endlessly, until I stopped replying.
Many times it is a ping to see IF you reply. To "own" your foreign ass and wallet. To check the daily value of herself. A girl hiding behind a facade of care, but in reality yearning to take control over your every minute.
And in addition; things can still be stupid, even if they are a common part of "culture".
Admittedly it is however a great opening for replying: "Not yet, but jump into your string panties, stop by at McDonalds and wake me up in an hour with a strawberry milk shake and a blow job".
B
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It Doesn't End Here Honey Ko
Many guys assume that they'll find their sexy little nymph online, fly to the Philippines on the first thing smoking, bang the hell out of her until their ED pills run out, then marry her and take her back to Paradise to live happy ever after. The story ends there right? Not so fast! This isn't exactly the happy tale of Shrek and Princess Fiona. On a whim I decided to check out Filipinas on dating sites in the USA. What I found was very informative. Lots of recently arrived 'separated' or 'divorced' Filipinas searching for a new idiot to support and marry them. Some of them even had newborn babies. Their profiles read a lot differently than when they were in their impoverished hellhole seeking salvation from some gullible foreigner. They don't want 'controlling' men, jealous men, drunkards or smokers. They also want men closer to their age or even younger. The story is the same. All of their problems with their sponsor started after arriving in the USA. Now, I know a lot of old goats go seeking a sweet little wife in the Philippines to import at great expense. Why bother with so many already here? Surely, some Bubba's misfortune can be your good luck. Think of it as windfall pussy. And if you're thinking about importing some exotic flesh just remember that she wouldn't stop searching when the plane leaves the Philippines and the immigration agent admits her to Paradise. Your quest for love may end there but hers is just beginning.
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Funny message, sex implied?
The last line of this message made me laugh so hard I almost fell out of my chair! I love the implication.
[QUOTE]ahmn,,hi again yes your right as long as we enjoy being together soon,,,,,,,,,,,looking forward to it! i will just wait you send me messeage that you come here....so that i can prepare my brown carpet hehhe[/QUOTE]
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LOL, at one stage I was banging 3 that were here in melbourne, married an older aussie and were very happy here. The search NEVER stopped. One AC girl that had tickets and a passport in the stamp delayed her trip to oz to be with me during my holiday while her fiance was waiting and then every time she went "shopping" she would email me the list of groceries and instead of the supermarket she would come to me for a quickly. Funny thing is they actually become freebies once in the promised land and married. Few years latter the marriage ended and she is now off in sydney married to another sucker. I still visit.
Like many of the expats wrote here, if you want to merry a filipina, go and leave there make friends, get them to fix you up via their missus rellos or whatever. Even this is not 100% but at least you have a chance. Once a bar girl, ALWAYS a bar girl, once a DIA chick always a DIA or internet chick.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1142943]Many guys assume that they'll find their sexy little nymph online, fly to the Philippines on the first thing smoking, bang the hell out of her until their ED pills run out, then marry her and take her back to Paradise to live happy ever after. The story ends there right? Not so fast! This isn't exactly the happy tale of Shrek and Princess Fiona. On a whim I decided to check out Filipinas on dating sites in the USA. What I found was very informative. Lots of recently arrived 'separated' or 'divorced' Filipinas searching for a new idiot to support and marry them. Some of them even had newborn babies. Their profiles read a lot differently than when they were in their impoverished hellhole seeking salvation from some gullible foreigner. They don't want 'controlling' men, jealous men, drunkards or smokers. They also want men closer to their age or even younger. The story is the same. All of their problems with their sponsor started after arriving in the USA. Now, I know a lot of old goats go seeking a sweet little wife in the Philippines to import at great expense. Why bother with so many already here? Surely, some Bubba's misfortune can be your good luck. Think of it as windfall pussy. And if you're thinking about importing some exotic flesh just remember that she wouldn't stop searching when the plane leaves the Philippines and the immigration agent admits her to Paradise. Your quest for love may end there but hers is just beginning.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1142943]They don't want 'controlling' men, jealous men, drunkards.[/QUOTE]Oooh thats ME! See why I have to move to Asia?
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**** girls on dia
Hi,
Just a not about this girl from DIA, Cristlyncarlos, not sure how true, added her in yahoo, but before we chat she or someone comes back with msg saying she is lying and I am only 14, but have blocked her and deleted, so you can never be sure, for a start, as I like to see on cam with in 1st chat so you know who you chat to.
Cheers
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Help with school fees
Gentlemen,
Young lady hazelanneganaden on DIA urgently needs money to pay her school fees. She'll be happy to entertain nice and naughty men.
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[QUOTE=Jambo;1143773]Oooh thats ME! See why I have to move to Asia?[/QUOTE]The girls definitely have you pegged Jambo. Once you take them to America they figure out that putting a leash and dog collar on them then fucking them up the ass until they howl at the moon is NOT how all kanos fuck! LOL
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DIA question
Lately I found a girl from Indonesia in DIA and even so she is muslim, we hit it off to phone / cam and soon going there. My question is, is there a similar DIA for Indonesia, there are some from indonesia but the majority in dia are pinoy.
Thanks in advance.
PV
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Yes I got a similar situation, this girl just look too young, so I keep asking, she finally told me she was 16, which at that moment I say goodbye, (I didtn say or do anything bad) , and block her and delete her.
I don't even start suggesting anythng until I am sure about the age.
BE CAREFUL OUT THERE.
[QUOTE=Paulr1950; 1143819]Hi,
Just a not about this girl from DIA, Cristlyncarlos, not sure how true, added her in yahoo, but before we chat she or someone comes back with msg saying she is lying and I am only 14, but have blocked her and deleted, so you can never be sure, for a start, as I like to see on cam with in 1st chat so you know who you chat to.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
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You might want to put Indonesia for the country and Jakarta for the city when you click the search button on DIA. You`the be surprised how many Indonesians you'll find.
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**** chatmates
Like many other users of DIA, I have had my fair share of encounters with girls who say they.
Are older than they actually are. Presently, I am befriending a '22 year old' beauty pageant girl.
Who just got a passport. Age shows she is really 18. So thank God she is above the legal limit!
Another 18 year old, introduced by a friend, gave me access to her Facebook. There it shows her.
Age as 16!
You can't be too careful with these young ones. Always demand proof and even then, don't be too sure that it is indeed legitimate. Be aware that often we are taking a risk with our preferences for younger bedmates.
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16 year old
[QUOTE=Member #1088; 1144102]
Yes I got a similar situation, this girl just look too young, so I keep asking, she finally told me she was 16, which at that moment I say goodbye, (I didtn say or do anything bad) , and block her and delete her. [/QUOTE]Back in the Mid-1980s, way before the internet, I was wife hunting using a dating service run by a Pinay and her American husband. For a flat fee, I got 200 names, addresses, and photos submitted by women in the PI looking for American men.
I picked out about 25-30 ladies based on their own descriptions and photos. Using my 8086 PC, I developed a
form letter of introduction. One of the Pinays turned out to be 16 yo and just as cute as could be. I know she would never be wife material because I was too old (mid-30s) to be driving a wife to high school. We did write back and forth for 8-9 months and it was interesting to see her world through her letters. She was a good pin-pal.
After I found my wife (of 20+ years, now) , I wrote her to say we could no longer be pin-pals and why. She wished me well and thanked me for befriending her.
I don't think you do that these days. In some ways the immediacy of the internet destroys the courting.
Slim
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[QUOTE=David_33;1144105]You might want to put Indonesia for the country and Jakarta for the city when you click the search button on DIA. You`the be surprised how many Indonesians you'll find.[/QUOTE]I like the calm and courteous way you replied to this request David.
If you want to find an Indonesian, go to the Indonesian site.
Rocket Science not!
Sometimes you have to wonder if some posters know how to turn a computer on.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1144315]I like the calm and courteous way you replied to this request David.
If you want to find an Indonesian, go to the Indonesian site.
Rocket Science not!
Sometimes you have to wonder if some posters know how to turn a computer on.[/QUOTE]Oh Red. How can you be so cruel to the innocents out there LOL.
Some prat the other day on the Singapore board asked " What is Orchard towers " LOL
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She wants what?
Was perusing thru DIA the way 10, 00 other horny do on a daily basis and one fine young lady had stated that she wants " good fairing". Well I'm thinking carnivals and dodgems and merry go rounds etc. But he this is the Philippines. Ah. She means God Fearing. Good to see ll that education didn't go to waste.
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[QUOTE=Questor55;1144193]There it shows her Age as 16![/QUOTE]Eh, so. Do you think you're going to die within 2 years? No law against keeping her YM on file. Check back down the road. Yesterdays jail-bait could be today's just-ripened peach!
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1144346]Was perusing thru DIA the way 10, 00 other horny do on a daily basis and one fine young lady had stated that she wants " good fairing". Well I'm thinking carnivals and dodgems and merry go rounds etc. But he this is the Philippines. Ah. She means God Fearing. Good to see ll that education didn't go to waste.[/QUOTE]She's Thai and wants a good farang
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Jail bait
[QUOTE=Jambo;1144798]Eh, so. Do you think you're going to die within 2 years? No law against keeping her YM on file. Check back down the road. Yesterdays jail-bait could be today's just-ripened peach![/QUOTE]Ha ha, you are right Jambo, but I think most of us are into something close to instant gratification!
So today's jail bait could be tomorrow's long stetch in the cooler! So guys, check and double check.
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Why do Filipina fear God?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1144346].....she wants " good fairing". Well I'm thinking carnivals and dodgems and merry go rounds etc. But he this is the Philippines. Ah. She means God Fearing. Good to see ll that education didn't go to waste.[/QUOTE]One of my early lessons on chatting to Filipina is to NEVER ask "why do you fear God". The reply is usually "huh" or some variant thereof. I used to ask: "I can understand you loving, worshiping, adoring God, but why do you fear Him?" A meaningless time-wasting discussion, or more likely silence ensues. Don't go there.
KongKing
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[QUOTE=KongKing; 1144872]One of my early lessons on chatting to Filipina is to NEVER ask "why do you fear God". The reply is usually "huh" or some variant thereof. I used to ask: "I can understand you loving, worshiping, adoring God, but why do you fear Him?" A meaningless time-wasting discussion, or more likely silence ensues. Don't go there.
KongKing[/QUOTE]Their fear of God might have to do with their intentions to lie to you and scam you in so many ways. These hidden intentions makes them fearful of divine retribution. Just tell her she must be a really bad person because only evil people fear God. Then watch as she makes her confession about needing 10, 000 pesos only for an operation on her toxic goitre.
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2 quickies
Was chatting to a ripe 19 year old gal last week who said she was in Taguig, which is my playing field.
We agreed to meet on my next trip etc.
See her online a day ago and ask where she is, and she says she's in some far flung province.
" Thought you were in Taguig honey " I enquired. She said Yes I was. 6 months ago. No, you told me yesterday you were in Taguig.
"oops " she says.
Later in the chat she bizarrely told me that she doesn't like to lie because " God is watching".
Who knows the mental processes that go on in the heads of some of these ladies.
Read the profile of another well educated gal, wh says her hobbies are "texting her family endlessly (have you eaten have you eaten have you eaten have you visiited the crapper have you eaten) and hanging out with herself.
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[QUOTE=Questor55;1144868]Ha ha, you are right Jambo, but I think most of us are into something close to instant gratification!.[/QUOTE]Haha yeah and since I am more-or-less looking for a semi-long term live-in, one of the things I ask is "how old are your sisters?". If she is 20yo and she has, say, sisters who are 17, 16. Great! When its time to pack big sis off to college, we can bring in a new one from the on-deck circle. And perhaps tag-team on holidays. Haha (ooh but think of the squabbles that could erupt)
Well its an amusing thought anyway.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1144910]Who knows the mental processes that go on in the heads of some of these ladies.
. . . . . . [/QUOTE]Too hard to predict FF.
I met a girl today whose profile said Cebu.
When I chatted with her she told me she lived in Taguig so I arranged to meet her at Mkt Mkt.
We met (at least she was exactly on time) and she told me she had 3 rides to get there because she had come from Antipolo where she now lives.
When I tried to untangle the Cebu-Taguig- Antipolo link she then told me how her family was flooded out in the Marikina floods in 2009? WTF?
At that stage I gave up and thought exactly what FF said (see above).
At least she was worth it, no matter where she actually lived or had travelled from.
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Philosophy discussions? ? ?
[QUOTE=KongKing; 1144872]One of my early lessons on chatting to Filipina is to NEVER ask "why do you fear God". The reply is usually "huh" or some variant thereof. I used to ask: "I can understand you loving, worshiping, adoring God, but why do you fear Him?" A meaningless time-wasting discussion, or more likely silence ensues. Don't go there.
KongKing[/QUOTE]Philosophical discussions with chatmates? Here, in a country where even the president seems incapable of
Critical analysis and logical thought? Talk about trying to push water uphill! I'm a news junky who reads.
Newspaper editorials regularly. Most of these writers couldn't get a pass in Philosophy 101.
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3 photos
Something Wrong With These Pics
This young lady with a profile in Philippine Cupid, says she is in San Jose del Monte, Bulacan, Philippines
The tits drew my eyes right away, but something is just not quite right with these pics.
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[QUOTE=Jambo; 1145802]This young lady with a profile in Philippine Cupid, says she is in San Jose del Monte, Bulacan, Philippines
The tits drew my eyes right away, but something is just not quite right with these pics.
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]149617[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]The pics are taken from one of those online tease sites:
[url]http://classic.petiteteenager.com/1/babybluecasey/[/url]
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Use tineye
[QUOTE=Jambo; 1145802]This young lady with a profile in Philippine Cupid, says she is in San Jose del Monte, Bulacan, Philippines
The tits drew my eyes right away, but something is just not quite right with these pics.
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]149617[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]When in doubt, use tineye. Com to attempt a picture match. It's definitely not fool-proof, but it did catch the images that you linked.
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[QUOTE=Dex Xie;1145939]When in doubt, use tineye. Com to attempt a picture match. It's definitely not fool-proof, but it did catch the images that you linked.[/QUOTE]I have a friend in Cebu who has posted a new photo on DIA. It is definitely not her.
When I asked her about it she said she just borrowed it off some other site. I told her that some guys will get angry if they meet her and she is not the same girl and her reply was "Well guys feed me bullshit stories all the time so why shouldn't I give out some of my own".
I couldn't disagree with her basic premise.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1145949]When I asked her about it she said she just borrowed it off some other site. I told her that some guys will get angry if they meet her and she is not the same girl and her reply was "Well guys feed me bullshit stories all the time so why shouldn't I give out some of my own".[/QUOTE]Then why is she on DIA?
Whether she's on DIA to marry a guy or to be a pro, she's not doing herself a favor by posting a fake pic. She's just wasting her own time.
Unless the fake pic is to ensnare some lonely guy to send her $$$ without meeting.
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Does anyone use DIA for what the site name implies?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1145961]Then why is she on DIA?
Whether she's on DIA to marry a guy or to be a pro, she's not doing herself a favor by posting a fake pic. She's just wasting her own time.
Unless the fake pic is to ensnare some lonely guy to send her $$$ without meeting. [/QUOTE]I would say it is safe to bet that most girls (especially Filipinas) are on DIA (dateinasia. Com) to find someone to marry, and most guys are there to find multiple sex partners. Very few are there to really find a date.
I agree that the deception of posting a fake photo on the profile is very irritating. But I can also understand the desire for a certain amount of anonymity. For a long time, I did not post an image on my profile for the dating sites, because some of the women I have met go nuts and spam my inbox every time they see my accounts online. I ultimately decided that I was missing out on to many potentials hook ups to worry about it. So I posted my pic again for the girls to see. I have learned to use the blocking function quite well these days.
HW
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1146017]I would say it is safe to bet that most girls (especially Filipinas) are on DIA (dateinasia. Com) to find someone to marry, and most guys are there to find multiple sex partners. Very few are there to really find a date.
I agree that the deception of posting a fake photo on the profile is very irritating. But I can also understand the desire for a certain amount of anonymity. For a long time, I did not post an image on my profile for the dating sites, because some of the women I have met go nuts and spam my inbox every time they see my accounts online. I ultimately decided that I was missing out on to many potentials hook ups to worry about it. So I posted my pic again for the girls to see. I have learned to use the blocking function quite well these days.
HW[/QUOTE]Not really true. All girls heard about this site gets starry eyed in the begining hoping to find true love. Soon they get disillusioned by many promising endless love, promising way out of poverty etc. So they learn quick to try to take advantage of the guys asking for money, gifts (seems like these girls have birthdays every day of the year ).
Many just drop of of DIA. Initially they will be online with cam everyday and soon once in a blue moon only. Ever see how many are online but not signed into yahoo!
In addition to foreigners plenty of local Phi guys are in DIA also. Many girls like to date Phi guys who are local hoping for a long lasting relationship.
Like all girls if there is money to be made by conning or sometimes having sex with foreigners they will definitely take it.
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[QUOTE=Dex Xie;1145939]When in doubt, use tineye..[/QUOTE]Thanks, yes. But no-one caught the "tell" without using Tineye?
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[QUOTE=Sammon; 1146079]Not really true. All girls heard about this site gets starry eyed in the begining hoping to find true love. Soon they get disillusioned by many promising endless love, promising way out of poverty etc. So they learn quick to try to take advantage of the guys asking for money, gifts (seems like these girls have birthdays every day of the year ).
Many just drop of of DIA. Initially they will be online with cam everyday and soon once in a blue moon only. Ever see how many are online but not signed into yahoo!
In addition to foreigners plenty of local Phi guys are in DIA also. Many girls like to date Phi guys who are local hoping for a long lasting relationship.
Like all girls if there is money to be made by conning or sometimes having sex with foreigners they will definitely take it. [/QUOTE]Yeah, a lot of girls join up hoping to marry some old rich poriner who will whisk them off to a land of luxury and wire home a large fortune every month to the relatives left behind on the pig farm in Ilocos Norte. Instead all they get is a dog collar and a sore pussy from some old potbellied perverted monger who bends their knees behind their ears and gives them a righteous pounding then throws 500 pesos at them for jeepney fare. Soon they learn that it's much cheaper to by-pass the dose of clap from random bareback mongers and just scam guys into sending money for travel or some other bullshit. You can't really blame them from a risk vs reward perspective.
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Also, if they post a naughty profile because they want to try some foreign prong, they have to be careful that they aren't identified by someone they know. Hence, the fake photos. Lots of Pinoy guys posing as foreigners are on DIA as well. So many girls also insist on seeing us on webcam initially.
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DIA, the land of opportunity.
DIA contains the rainbow of women, good bad and ugly. Apparently I have lost my game as I used to be able to have 1 in 4 naked in about 25 minutes after meeting them, but lately I have not been making the effort and there seems to be less sluts.
It is fun and entertaining, I personally never lie or mislead, to many will beleive anything you say I know I am not headed to heaven but still I try not to hurt people.
I have made real friends and business associatted here. And had some excellent webcam sex.
As for posting a bad boy rofile I did and got 0 responses.
Post a nice one and I am still not hideous and I get many.
PP
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[QUOTE=Jambo;1146087]Thanks, yes. But no-one caught the "tell" without using Tineye?[/QUOTE]Stumped! Enlighten me please, Jambo?
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1 photos
[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1146236]Stumped! Enlighten me please, Jambo?[/QUOTE]Ah, don't think Office Depot has a store in the PI. Busted!
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[QUOTE=Jambo;1146558]Ah, don't think Office Depot has a store in the PI. Busted![/QUOTE]Strange as it may seem, I do seem to remember seeing an Office Depot sign during my travels around Manila. Not sure about it, but it is possible. Office Depot is an international corporation.
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Jambo is wrong
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Bad boy
[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1146223]As for posting a bad boy rofile I did and got 0 responses.
PP[/QUOTE]PP: I tried to PM you regarding this, you have no mailbox.
I turned on my bad-boy profile last night after some inactive months: 41 responses in 22 hours. There is a period of time, about midnight to 7am Philippine time, where there are no responses to my profile. I ask every respondent: "Did you read my profile text?" before we get to YM chat. Results so far:
* 19 said they did not read it (the rest said they did). Once they read it a handful (5) were interested to continue chatting me up for some 'fun'.
* 6 are wondering, once in chat, why I don't want to get married. These are those truly innocently cultured pinay whose whole life purpose seems to marry. They don't understand when someone else doesn't want to get married. No matter how many times I tell them in chat that I prefer being single, they just keep asking why I don't want to marry. Its so nauseating that now when one asks, I cut her off with "bitter divorce. You up for some fun or not?"
* 1 older lady in Leyte is steaming mad at me for plowing thru the pinay youth."Please don't do that sir. Lovemaking in my country is sacred." Really? Explain to me, ma'am, why 20 filipinas in 20 hours have agreed to come to my hotel for fun on our first meeting, ranging from 18 year-old co-eds to 50 year-old grandmothers. One 26 year-old gal in Zambo even offered to bring her 45 year-old aunt: "she's pretty still and saying she like to sex a foreigner one time. Me also like it". Yes, sacred.
One girl tried to sell a cam show. She admitted being 16 ("running 17"). When I said no thanks, because she's too young, she offered her sister, age 19, for cam show. No thanks again hun, I'm only interested in fun when I'm there in Cebu. To which she then offered both her sister and 40 year-old mom when I came there (all 3 of them were on cam). Soooo sacred.
* The rest are flat out fine for fun on my hotel room for a first meet.
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Bad boy Westcoast1
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1146609]PP: I tried to PM you regarding this, you have no mailbox.
I turned on my bad-boy profile last night after some inactive months: 41 responses in 22 hours. There is a period of time, about midnight to 7am Philippine time, where there are no responses to my profile. I ask every respondent: "Did you read my profile text?" before we get to YM chat. Results so far:
* 19 said they did not read it (the rest said they did). Once they read it a handful (5) were interested to continue chatting me up for some 'fun'.
* 6 are wondering, once in chat, why I don't want to get married. These are those truly innocently cultured pinay whose whole life purpose seems to marry. They don't understand when someone else doesn't want to get married. No matter how many times I tell them in chat that I prefer being single, they just keep asking why I don't want to marry. Its so nauseating that now when one asks, I cut her off with "bitter divorce. You up for some fun or not?"
* 1 older lady in Leyte is steaming mad at me for plowing thru the pinay youth."Please don't do that sir. Lovemaking in my country is sacred." Really? Explain to me, ma'am, why 20 filipinas in 20 hours have agreed to come to my hotel for fun on our first meeting, ranging from 18 year-old co-eds to 50 year-old grandmothers. One 26 year-old gal in Zambo even offered to bring her 45 year-old aunt: "she's pretty still and saying she like to sex a foreigner one time. Me also like it". Yes, sacred.
One girl tried to sell a cam show. She admitted being 16 ("running 17"). When I said no thanks, because she's too young, she offered her sister, age 19, for cam show. No thanks again hun, I'm only interested in fun when I'm there in Cebu. To which she then offered both her sister and 40 year-old mom when I came there (all 3 of them were on cam). Soooo sacred.
* The rest are flat out fine for fun on my hotel room for a first meet. [/QUOTE]Geez! What did your bad boy profile say?
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[QUOTE=Jambo;1146558]Ah, don't think Office Depot has a store in the PI. Busted![/QUOTE]Have you ever seen US visiting Filipinos checking their bags at the airport when going home? Box after box. . . . .
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DIA good profile and bad profile
[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010;1146643]Geez! What did your bad boy profile say?[/QUOTE]After having used a "good" profile on DIA for quite some time, I created a "bad" profile yesterday (:-D got the idea here).
And now both profiles have been closed :-S I can't get into DIA anymore.
Oh well, you win some, you loose some
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[QUOTE=Fredje1961; 1147098]After having used a "good" profile on DIA for quite some time, I created a "bad" profile yesterday (:-D got the idea here).
And now both profiles have been closed :-S I can't get into DIA anymore.
Oh well, you win some, you loose some[/QUOTE]Take another email and register again (but do that from another place then where you registered the previous profile from since most probably (part of) your IP address will be logged).
If that still does not work try sites which hide your own IP by routing your traffic through their website (and thus giving you another IP).
I used that when I was once blacklisted because of some stupid girl (really unfairly) complaining about me.
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Closed
[QUOTE=Fredje1961; 1147098]After having used a "good" profile on DIA for quite some time, I created a "bad" profile yesterday (:-D got the idea here).
And now both profiles have been closed :-S I can't get into DIA anymore.
Oh well, you win some, you loose some[/QUOTE]If you use the same email add, or the same computer (IP add) , their software catches it. Similar thing happened to a friend.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1147238]If you use the same email add, or the same computer (IP add) , their software catches it. Similar thing happened to a friend.[/QUOTE]Really? I could see the email address checking, but how can they get away with IP checking? Every girl that shares a computer in an internet cafe would have their accounts closed.
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Good question
[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1147275]Really? I could see the email address checking, but how can they get away with IP checking? Every girl that shares a computer in an internet cafe would have their accounts closed.[/QUOTE]I made the assumption. Could be wrong. But its happened to multiple gents.
I'm I will PM you.
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[QUOTE=Fredje1961; 1147098]After having used a "good" profile on DIA for quite some time, I created a "bad" profile yesterday (:-D got the idea here).
And now both profiles have been closed :-S I can't get into DIA anymore.
Oh well, you win some, you loose some[/QUOTE]I've been running a "Good guy" and a "Bad boy" profile on DIA for a couple of years now. I do use different e-mail addresses for each. Funny thing is that I get more "interest" and messages on the "Bad boy" profile than I do on the "Good guy" one. I guess it must be true that women like bad boys best.
HW
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[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me;1146849]Have you ever seen US visiting Filipinos checking their bags at the airport when going home? Box after box.[/QUOTE]Filipinos are reknowned all over the world for filling boxes with junk and then paying to fly them all over the world. The boxes are filled with fodstuffs that you can't get in Phils as well as knick knacks, things that could be sold. Every major city in Asia has an area where Filipinos can buy balikbayan (returnees") boxes for the very same purpose of ensuring that it will take AGES for your particular bag to appear.
I once arrived on the last CX flight from hk (which had lots of connecting passengers from Dubai ). We arrived at 12. 30am. My bag came out at 2am. Not because it was slow baggage belt but was full of balikbayan boxes.
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I also used the same birth date in both profiles.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1147344]I've been running a "Good guy" and a "Bad boy" profile on DIA for a couple of years now. I do use different e-mail addresses for each. Funny thing is that I get more "interest" and messages on the "Bad boy" profile than I do on the "Good guy" one. I guess it must be true that women like bad boys best.
HW[/QUOTE]
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The Facebook Factor
Lately I've had to rebuff numerous requests from girls wanting to add me on Facebook. Things really came to a head today when one girl asked me to "friend" her on Facebook. I asked her why she wanted me to add her. She told me so she could see how many girlfriends I had among other things. At least she was honest. Others come up with weak reasons like allowing me to see their pictures. LOL
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1147919]Lately I've had to rebuff numerous requests from girls wanting to add me on Facebook. Things really came to a head today when one girl asked me to "friend" her on Facebook. I asked her why she wanted me to add her. She told me so she could see how many girlfriends I had among other things. At least she was honest. Others come up with weak reasons like allowing me to see their pictures. LOL[/QUOTE]I see no upside to even having a facebook account. You can meet many a beaver at the dating sites without having them look at your friends. Also, if anyone is putting their real name on their facebook account then they really need to have their head examined and / or shop around for a divorce attorney.
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Misleading advertising
Or, you can't tell a book by its cover.
These Philippine bras can definitely make 'mountains out of molehills'.
I've had what appear to be nice 34 B's turn out to be A minus minus.
Nipples, but no tits. Therefore, it was particularly pleasing last night to.
Take off the gift wrapping of a very sexy 19 yr old and discover a perfect.
Pair of very firm 34 C's. Equally firm tight model's butt and overall one of the best bodies.
I've pleasured in some time.
Thanks DIA!
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[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1147978]I see no upside to even having a facebook account. You can meet many a beaver at the dating sites without having them look at your friends. Also, if anyone is putting their real name on their facebook account then they really need to have their head examined and / or shop around for a divorce attorney.[/QUOTE]Screaming Beaver,
Those are my sentiments exactly! I don't have an FB account though the girls keep asking me to sign up for one. Even the FB founder, Mark Zuckerburg the weasel, said that the people giving him information through social networking are "dumb fucks." More than a few mongers have gotten burned on FB. I'd go further to say anyone giving their real name to some beaver they got off a dating site needs to have their head examined. Some of those beavers are quite cunning and try running searches on beaver hunters.
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DIA Escort?
Been chatting with this girl from DIA for a few weeks to set up meeting in Davao. She asked me what I wanted and be frank. I told her meet and talk and go from there. I told her I don't want a working girl. She said she is not a working girl and she understands.
Fast forward to last night she text me and she says she is Tipsy so she wants to be "frank" again. I think she likes somebody named Frank. LOL Anyways she tells me she is a working girl and she needs money for school and hope I understand. I told her no I do not understand as we were "frank" with other before. I told her if I knew she was prostitute / free lance I would not have meet her. She then sayd no she is not but she is an escort. I told her its all the same.
Has anybody had an escort from her? [url]http://www.dateinasia.com/destinymichelle.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1147919]Lately I've had to rebuff numerous requests from girls wanting to add me on Facebook. Things really came to a head today when one girl asked me to "friend" her on Facebook. I asked her why she wanted me to add her. She told me so she could see how many girlfriends I had among other things. At least she was honest. Others come up with weak reasons like allowing me to see their pictures. LOL[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Screaming Beaver]I see no upside to even having a facebook account. You can meet many a beaver at the dating sites without having them look at your friends. Also, if anyone is putting their real name on their facebook account then they really need to have their head examined and / or shop around for a divorce attorney.[/QUOTE]I have a FB account, because so many of the girls asked me to add them. I decided that they are mostly on my DIA "bad boy" account anyhow, so they know that I am not being loyal to them. If they look at my FB and decide that I have to many gf on there, then they are not the kind of jealous ***** I want to be involved with anyhow. On the other hand, you can see many photos of them and their friends on there. This could help you find other prospects. I don't post my real name, address, phone number, or other personal information. And I only put a select few photos of myself there. The name on my FB account is similar to that of my DIA "bad boy" account. I don't do a lot of posting on there. I open it for only a short time to look at what the girls have posted (mostly useless bullshit) and look at the new photos they have added.
I did have one girl get kind of upset (it seemed) when I added another girl that must have been her personal friend. She sent me a pm asking if I liked the other girl. I replied with "Yes. She looks like someone I would like to spend a night or two with." I never heard from her again. But she is still on my "friends" list.
Other than causing problems with marriages (which mongers are stupid to be in IMHO) , how have you seen guys getting burned?
HW
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[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1147978]Also, if anyone is putting their real name on their facebook account then they really need to have their head examined and / or shop around for a divorce attorney.[/QUOTE]Preferably the later. We divorce attorneys need mongering money too! LOL
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy;1148195]Preferably the later. We divorce attorneys need mongering money too! LOL[/QUOTE]Laughing my ass off RG! Lawyers have enough of our money, they should be paying us to go do the mongering! :D
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DIA community growing
I can remember when I first started using DIA, the most members online I would see was about 5, 000. Obviously it has become a very popular site now, as I just logged in and saw over 10, 000 members online at 10:00 pm Saturday night (PI time). I try to stay offline during the peak times, so I don't get overwhelmed with the amount of messages and instant messenger chat requests. In the past, I have been logged in and had at least 10 different girls wanting to chat with me at the same time. And, of course, each one is chatting with multiple other guys, but would be jealous if I admitted to chatting with multiple girls.
HW
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You should meet her
[QUOTE=Andre007; 1148165]Been chatting with this girl from DIA for a few weeks to set up meeting in Davao. She asked me what I wanted and be frank. I told her meet and talk and go from there. I told her I don't want a working girl. She said she is not a working girl and she understands.
Fast forward to last night she text me and she says she is Tipsy so she wants to be "frank" again. I think she likes somebody named Frank. LOL Anyways she tells me she is a working girl and she needs money for school and hope I understand. I told her no I do not understand as we were "frank" with other before. I told her if I knew she was prostitute / free lance I would not have meet her. She then sayd no she is not but she is an escort. I told her its all the same.
Has anybody had an escort from her?
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/destinymichelle.html[/url][/QUOTE]First, I think she is quite attractive. Second, you can tell her that, quite simply, you don't pay for sex. I bet she would still go out with you, and you would be guaranteed a nice time. You will pay, of course, but in the way we pay most of the DIA girls (perfume, cell phones, etc).
I have had quite a few girlfriends who were prostitutes on the side. They are easy to get along with, because there is no need for them to be lying to you. And, they tend to be less needy and very good at sex.
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I never understand why guys who "don't want to pay for it" are on this forum.
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DIA looking guys
Hi guys,
A lurker here with no monegering experience whatsoever. Just wanted to say I am a great fan of many of you who take the time and effort to write wonderful reports and suggestions. Keep it up.
I found this girl and thought that somebody might be interested in her because she is practically asking to get laid for money.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/midnight[/url]
+enchanter. Html.
Stay safe and happy easter for those of you who celebrate it.
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Link not working
This is the right link:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/midnight[/url]+enchanter. Html
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[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/midnight[/url]+enchanter. Html.
QUOTE=Sampling; 1148321]This is the right link:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/midnight[/url]
+enchanter. Html[/QUOTE]
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Just search midnight enchanter. Another sad story. Chubby, not cute, desperate and with a kid.
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[QUOTE=David_33;1148318]I never understand why guys who "don't want to pay for it" are on this forum.[/QUOTE]Then I guess I should have left 1740 messages ago?
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1148177]I have a FB account, because so many of the girls asked me to add them. I decided that they are mostly on my DIA "bad boy" account anyhow, so they know that I am not being loyal to them. If they look at my FB and decide that I have to many gf on there, then they are not the kind of jealous * I want to be involved with anyhow. On the other hand, you can see many photos of them and their friends on there. This could help you find other prospects. I don't post my real name, address, phone number, or other personal information. And I only put a select few photos of myself there. The name on my FB account is similar to that of my DIA "bad boy" account. I don't do a lot of posting on there. I open it for only a short time to look at what the girls have posted (mostly useless bullshit) and look at the new photos they have added.
Other than causing problems with marriages (which mongers are stupid to be in IMHO) , how have you seen guys getting burned?
HW[/QUOTE]In order to see girls pics and see if they are who they say they are I have a totally anonymous facebook site. No pic, false name, no details nadda. I add the girl, check out her pics, then unfriend them so theres never anyone residing there etc. Helps me see the pics, but stops the " oh you have so many girls as friends, you must be a player " type comment. That obviously isn't appropriate for me. LOL LOL extra LOL!
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[QUOTE=David_33;1148318]I never understand why guys who "don't want to pay for it" are on this forum.[/QUOTE]I prefer regular girls, then use the p4p to fill my vacant time
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Facebook Factor
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1147919]Lately I've had to rebuff numerous requests from girls wanting to add me on Facebook. Things really came to a head today when one girl asked me to "friend" her on Facebook. I asked her why she wanted me to add her. She told me so she could see how many girlfriends I had among other things. At least she was honest. Others come up with weak reasons like allowing me to see their pictures. LOL[/QUOTE]I avoid adding girls on Facebook and just keep that for friends. Filipinas like to chat on Yahoo Messenger and I prefer just to add them there.
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Interesting post. I hadn't thought along those lines. I used to steer clear of gals that wanted to chat on YM immediately, but maybe I should be more patient.
I also used to get very suspicious requests for details about some of the naughty pictures I posted. My guess was that the were Pinoy police or someone else up to no good. Thanks for the post. X.
[QUOTE=David_33;1146097]Also, if they post a naughty profile because they want to try some foreign prong, they have to be careful that they aren't identified by someone they know. Hence, the fake photos. Lots of Pinoy guys posing as foreigners are on DIA as well. So many girls also insist on seeing us on webcam initially.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=David_33;1148325]Just search midnight enchanter. Another sad story. Chubby, not cute, desperate and with a kid.[/QUOTE]If I take up with her do I get to rename her kid? "Nimrod" is a deal breaker for me. (joke; not serious)
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[QUOTE=Sampling; 1148321]This is the right link:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/midnight[/url]
+enchanter. Html[/QUOTE]The link does work if you join it all together.
"http://www.dateinasia.com/midnight+enchanter.html"
The ISG forum program is automatically breaking up the address for some reason.
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Update bad boy
I've had a few odd conversations the last few days with pinay who are answering positively to my bad-boy profile. They are agreeable to fun on a first meet, but wanting wild sum of pesos or other gifts.
Girl #1 [CDO]: can you pay $200 sir.
Me: dollars?
Girl #1: yes.
Me: its p10, 000.
Girl #1: yes.
Me: did you mean p1, 000?
Girl #1: no I mean TEN THOUSAND. Can you afford.
Me: ah your way high on that hun.
Girl #1: ok. 7,000 then.
That's as low as she would go for an afternoon (although she offered to stay the night).
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Girl #2 [cebu city]: 20, 000.
Me: peso?
Girl #2: yes. My friend tell me to ask it.
Me: did your friend mean p2, 000?
Girl #2: no. 20, 000 peso.
Me: hun girls around cebu are happy for 500.
Girl #2: thats them. Me is 20, 000. Also you have to let me bring my baby. She 4 months and breastfeed so she stay with me.
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Me: yes you can bring your mom or cousin, just one, for meeting over a coffee in mall. My treat.
Girl #3 [zambo]: really.
Me: yes. When I'm done with my drink, I'm going back to the hotel. You can choose to come with me or go home. If you come with me, we're having that adult fun we spoke before with my camera.
Girl #3: oh yes I want that sex. I never been foreigner before.
Me: do you also have friends who might be interest to seeing me when I'm there.
Girl #3: yes, but you must pay them they prostitute. Me I'm free.
Me: ok.
Girl #3: I'm free but after the hotel you must take my all family to white beach.
Me: yes, I'd like to do some snorkeling. Its a nice place?
Girl #3: yes it is. First you rent a boat to take my family it is $100 dollar. Not piso! Then you pay for me and my family to have meal there. The blah blah blah [absoultely ridiculous requests, she was happily on cam smiling and running up hundreds of dollars of fun for her family. All 9 of them]
Me: I see.
Girl #3: yes. Its nice place. But if you don't agree I don't go on your hotel.
Me: so. Those other girls you mentioned before coming to my hotel. They prostitutes. But your not?
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1148606]I've had a few odd conversations the last few days with pinay who are answering positively to my bad-boy profile. They are agreeable to fun on a first meet, but wanting wild sum of pesos or other gifts.
Girl #1 [CDO]: can you pay $200 sir.
Me: dollars?
Girl #1: yes.
Me: its p10, 000.
Girl #1: yes.
Me: did you mean p1, 000?
Girl #1: no I mean TEN THOUSAND. Can you afford.
Me: ah your way high on that hun.
Girl #1: ok. 7,000 then.
That's as low as she would go for an afternoon (although she offered to stay the night).
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Girl #2 [cebu city]: 20, 000.
Me: peso?
Girl #2: yes. My friend tell me to ask it.
Me: did your friend mean p2, 000?
Girl #2: no. 20, 000 peso.
Me: hun girls around cebu are happy for 500.
Girl #2: thats them. Me is 20, 000. Also you have to let me bring my baby. She 4 months and breastfeed so she stay with me.
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Me: yes you can bring your mom or cousin, just one, for meeting over a coffee in mall. My treat.
Girl #3 [zambo]: really.
Me: yes. When I'm done with my drink, I'm going back to the hotel. You can choose to come with me or go home. If you come with me, we're having that adult fun we spoke before with my camera.
Girl #3: oh yes I want that sex. I never been foreigner before.
Me: do you also have friends who might be interest to seeing me when I'm there.
Girl #3: yes, but you must pay them they prostitute. Me I'm free.
Me: ok.
Girl #3: I'm free but after the hotel you must take my all family to white beach.
Me: yes, I'd like to do some snorkeling. Its a nice place?
Girl #3: yes it is. First you rent a boat to take my family it is $100 dollar. Not piso! Then you pay for me and my family to have meal there. The blah blah blah [absoultely ridiculous requests, she was happily on cam smiling and running up hundreds of dollars of fun for her family. All 9 of them]
Me: I see.
Girl #3: yes. Its nice place. But if you don't agree I don't go on your hotel.
Me: so. Those other girls you mentioned before coming to my hotel. They prostitutes. But your not? [/QUOTE]Westcoast,
Bar fine is a lot cheaper than the online "freebies" and you get to check them out before closing the deal. Why is it that the girls in the middle of nowhere seem to have the most outrageous expectations?
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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1148611]Westcoast,
Bar fine is a lot cheaper than the online "freebies" and you get to check them out before closing the deal. Why is it that the girls in the middle of nowhere seem to have the most outrageous expectations? [/QUOTE]Another timely reminder that paid sex is always cheaper!
Manta Ray
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"Me: so. Those other girls you mentioned before coming to my hotel. They prostitutes. But your not?"
That is hilarious. LOL.
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You always pay!
[QUOTE=David_33;1148318]I never understand why guys who "don't want to pay for it" are on this forum.[/QUOTE]For those of us who prefer "not to pay", it has more to do with the GFE, of course, rather than the cash outlay.
The reality is that we spend much more, especially in time and energy, for this privilege. Freebies are far from being free, unless you are a cold hearted, exploitative bastard. Also, the money spent on meals, gifts, trips, etc. Cost much more than P4P.
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[QUOTE=Questor55; 1148664]For those of us who prefer "not to pay", it has more to do with the GFE, of course, rather than the cash outlay.
The reality is that we spend much more, especially in time and energy, for this privilege. Freebies are far from being free, unless you are a cold hearted, exploitative bastard. Also, the money spent on meals, gifts, trips, etc. Cost much more than P4P. [/QUOTE]I have a Manila trip up and coming. And about 7 on my "A" list. I was out yesterday buying slutwear, for all 7 and maybe spent the equivalent of P 5, 000 for little see thru numbers for all of them, and other things they might like. Maybe when I'm there I will spend a bit on phone calls / texts and food for me and them and drinks for me and them (but even if I'm paying as in BKK, I like to buy drinks and eat with them before I eat them ).
They will probably each get a gift of P 1000 for being a good sport. So p12, 000 for 7 girls, photos and the fun of some great afternoons and nights. Damn thats as close to free as it gets for me. For m, thats free.
The highlight is going to be a married lady whos hubby is far far away, who will leave her job early, and she will stay with me in my place for 10 hours. She's so scared of her parents, or his parents seeing her she thinks my place is only safe for her. Ho ho ho he laughs in his devilish laugh!
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You pay one way or the other!
[QUOTE=Questor55; 1148664]For those of us who prefer "not to pay", it has more to do with the GFE, of course, rather than the cash outlay.
The reality is that we spend much more, especially in time and energy, for this privilege. Freebies are far from being free, unless you are a cold hearted, exploitative bastard. Also, the money spent on meals, gifts, trips, etc. Cost much more than P4P. [/QUOTE]I have been hooking up with some college girls here outside of Manila. Ranging in age from 18-23 (I am late 40's).
I think its safe to say that there is way less hassle with the average p4p girl than these young ladies.
I have come to the conclusion that they are even more devious and scheming when it comes to attempts to get gifts and money from you. Tuition, clothes, birthday, family.
Not to mention the occaisional 20 year old that falls in love on one date and precedes to stalk your ass.
Yes give me a bar girl any day of the week. Its a simple straight forward business transaction.
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Ditto P4P vs. Freebie
My strategy is exactly the same as Bob's. I try to have regular working GF and fill-in with
Pros (eliminates scheduling problems) or schedule potential new GF in the afternoons.
I tend to keep the GF on a short leash to keep expenses under control plus allow funds.
For afternoon delights. For most GFs. Meals, a few clothes, and a weekend away are enough.
Enjoy,
Cheapy
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie;1148357]I prefer regular girls, then use the p4p to fill my vacant time[/QUOTE]
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Don't kid ourselves?
Much comment here in the past that we shouldn't kid ourselves about young girls
Only being attracted to us older guys because we are comparitively rich. I read a
Chinese DIA profile yesterday were she stipulated a yearly income of at least $120, 000 USA.
As one of her requirements!
Guys, what's new, or what's Asian about this? Women have always been attracted to.
'nest building' and 'nest eggs'. To any girl from the provinces, existing on a few dollars a day,
It's all comparitive. To them, someone with ANY disposable income is 'rich'.
With the economic boom in China, the high bar has just been raised. Go to Beverly Hills or Monaco,
It rises substantially higher.
The 'stunners' have a marketable commodity. Supply and demand becomes a major factor.
One huge advantage here in P. I. Is that old buggers frequently snare the best lookers.
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If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.
Ok so I'm working the various angles to ensure that I get the best of my afternoons on impending Manila trip and truly thought (well my cock was doing most of the thinking!). That I'd hit the jackpot.
Case number 1. 19 year old student says she's from Laguna. Ready to try out the " love in a hotel thing" still a V but wants to see what the fuss is about. Lots of plans, and agreements, she will have first shave etcetc. All except penetrations. Sure I was fine with that. Today, she tells me her part of Laguna is miles and miles away and to get to Alabang, she needs to rent a van at P2500. Sorry honey!
Case number 2. A cute 18 year old caught my eye, and we get chatting and she interestingly states she's happy to visit my apartment. Nice face, nice bod. Till she suddenly states she has a kid, and might be pregnant with number 2. Korean father of the child. Sorry honey, no kimchee sloppy second for me.
The hunt for the afternoon delights continues.
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[QUOTE=Questor55; 1148664]For those of us who prefer "not to pay", it has more to do with the GFE, of course, rather than the cash outlay.
The reality is that we spend much more, especially in time and energy, for this privilege. Freebies are far from being free, unless you are a cold hearted, exploitative bastard. Also, the money spent on meals, gifts, trips, etc. Cost much more than P4P. [/QUOTE]For me the highest cost of "freebies" is my own time I spend on them. Time is money. If I spent 3 hours in online chat, thats 3 hours I am not working, and my time at work is worth roughly $100 / hr. If I spent a whole day taking the girl shopping, dining, karaoke, txting and other GFE activities, that adds up to a lot of time.
Its no secret to any of us who are into this game, that dating a "freebie" is much more expensive in both time and money. Is it worth it? Thats up to you to decide, how much you enjoy chasing the ladies. If you are looking for a quickie, I think the professional scene is much better value for time and money. If you are looking for a long term girlfriend, go ahead and chase the civilians, you will find higher quality women whom you will never encounter on the P4P scene.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1149145]Its no secret to any of us who are into this game, that dating a "freebie" is much more expensive in both time and money. Is it worth it? If you are looking for a quickie, I think the professional scene is much better value for time and money. If you are looking for a long term girlfriend, go ahead and chase the civilians, you will find higher quality women[/QUOTE]Freebie vs Quickie. Maybe thats an interesting way of putting it.
Well given my name I know where I like to spend my time, and with 5 new ones out 7 on a soon to be had Manila trip I guess I prefer the thrill of the hunt vs the Buy and Sell type transaction. But fully understand that we are all quit different.
Sadly I'm not US$100 per hour, but not far short. But thankfully, being the boss no one checks what the boss is doing, certainly not IT as I'm off network most of the day LOL. I Wonder why LOL
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[QUOTE=Questor55; 1148664]For those of us who prefer "not to pay", it has more to do with the GFE, of course, rather than the cash outlay.
The reality is that we spend much more, especially in time and energy, for this privilege. Freebies are far from being free, unless you are a cold hearted, exploitative bastard. Also, the money spent on meals, gifts, trips, etc. Cost much more than P4P. [/QUOTE]Although willing girls are dime a dozen in Phi because of povert it is not good to explouit them. Just be generous moneywise. Do not think buying small trinkets and bedding them is good unless you have long term plans with the girl. It is true these girls are frequently exploited by their Phi boyfriends. But we should not act the same besides compared to our money being generous is very cheap in Phi.
Try to brighten up somebody's life by being generous even if your whole idea is getting into her pants.
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Sign of the times
She wrote me-
My foreigner bf stopped sending money because of hard times so I need to make money my self
although her profile said--
LET ME GET THIS STRATE TO U GUY. IM NOT LOOKING FOR BF, SEX FOR MONEY, CAM SEX. U WANT B FRIEND B NICE LIKE ALL DA.
Another wrote me--
I hate sex but I will try it.
Gihimo ang toytoy aron supsopun.
What does that mean anyone?
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Bad boy Profile
In anticipation for the next trip I have started using my profiles. My bad boy profile had attracted few hits and like others have reported I have received some outrages and strange demands.
Best I got so far is a 29yr old MILF offering a freebee with her nicer 27 year old friend in tow. They are up for a threesome and want nothing in return, taxi money 200 peso all up and sex only. Keen to have fun and try a foreigner. She is not bad looking but nothing special either, seems bit crabby but has large boobs. Her 27 yr old friend is has a nice body and also a large rack. Since my time Manila is limited to only about 60 hrs I will probably pass this time.
Another offered full service for 5000 peso and that was her price. She would not go lower. 21yr old with a kid, that tried to convince me she is worth the 5000 and she is not like the "sluts" on burgos. I am staying in 3 diff hotels and she knew them all, I guess she probably sees more cock then a burgos "****". When I said at best she is worth 2000 to me she called me old and blocked me from her DIA profile. She did give me a cam show though and I must say she is not bad.
The best value deal I have managed so far is a 22yr old is bringing her 19 yr old sis and her friend. They want 4000 each so 12 000 all up but its 3 of us as well so it works out 4000 per per person all inclusive and they will allow swaps, threesomes and are ok with an orgy providing we get big enough room. Basically each of us will get to ride 3 girls for 4000 so it works out cheaper even then AC. The girl that negotiated seemed well educated and smart. Not a simple girl as per her profile. She also knew all the terms like CIM, BBBJ and so on. Odd and even scary, when negotiating she even specifically stated they will not allow any form of BDSM god only knows who had given her sexual education LOL and now she is pushing her younger sis in what looks like the family business. Anyway who am I to judge, like I said, best find so far so and I am looking forward to it.
Good guy profile has so far attracted more (but this is me being proactive) but to be honest nothing that really I am looking forward to. 1 girl has caught my eye but she is 32. Looks great has a great job and can hold a conversation. I will probably leave her for next time when I will have time for a GF experience. It would be nice change then the airheads that I normally get in phils.
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Translation?
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist; 1149237]She wrote me-
My foreigner bf stopped sending money because of hard times so I need to make money my self.
Although her profile said-
LET ME GET THIS STRATE TO U GUY. I'm NOT LOOKING FOR BF, SEX FOR MONEY, CAM SEX. U WANT B FRIEND B NICE LIKE ALL the.
Another wrote me-
I hate sex but I will try it.
Gihimo ang toytoy aron supsopun.
What does that mean anyone? [/QUOTE]Asked my wife and she is sure that it is not Tagalog. Maybe Visayas or other dialect. Definitely not Tagalog!
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[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist; 1149237]Another wrote me-
I hate sex but I will try it.
Gihimo ang toytoy aron supsopun.
What does that mean anyone? [/QUOTE]I tried to search for the entire phrase, and came up with nothing. However, searching for the word "Gihimo" landed me on the site Bisayan. Com where I was able to look up each individual word.
Gimiho = do / done, or make / made.
And = the.
Toytoy = idiot.
Aron = in order to.
Supsopun = suck.
I won't even attempt to try to put all that into a sensible English phrase! LOL
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Translation
[QUOTE=Frank4220;1149443]Asked my wife and she is sure that it is not Tagalog. Maybe Visayas or other dialect. Definitely not Tagalog![/QUOTE]It is Visaya, Toytoy is a small dog / puppy but is presumably a miscopy for totoy meaning breasts. So the phrase means: Breasts are made to be sucked
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She's needs money
Sweety venice. Dia, needs money tonight as she has bills tomorrow. She certainly won't attract the attention of Mr D Cups but she might appeal to some.
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What is your bad boy profile?
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1149300]In anticipation for the next trip I have started using my profiles. My bad boy profile had attracted few hits and like others have reported I have received some outrages and strange demands.[/QUOTE]Can you educate us and tell us what you wrote? How many responses did you get?
As for your good guy profile, did you respond by mentioning your desire to have sex? Or, do you portray yourself as looking for a long term relationship?
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Set up
every time i log on one girl tells me how she wants to meet me. she often tells me she has no money for her baby but seems to have enough to go on internet daily.
so i told her i would meet her in makati. not really intending to but to see what would happen. told her we would meet this weekend. lo and behold, two days ago she appears on cam with her "friend". friend is 17 and a virgin and did i want to take her friend for 40k. nope i said i had no interest in an **** virgin. they seemed dissappointed. after a chat today the latest tack is that we will all go to a hotel and the virgin will watch. does this particular set of messages have scam written all over it. ? i think so. she's from montalban in rizal fyi.
i asked if the virgin is doctor certified. she sid no need, she would promise to me that he was. i said i will provide a dcotor. they were shocked and didn't know how to reply to that one. its fun playing these games sometimes.
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[quote=freebiefan; 1150103]every time i log on one girl tells me how she wants to meet me. she often tells me she has no money for her baby but seems to have enough to go on internet daily.
so i told her i would meet her in makati. not really intending to but to see what would happen. told her we would meet this weekend. lo and behold, two days ago she appears on cam with her "friend". friend is 17 and a virgin and did i want to take her friend for 40k. nope i said i had no interest in an **** virgin. they seemed dissappointed. after a chat today the latest tack is that we will all go to a hotel and the virgin will watch. does this particular set of messages have scam written all over it. ? i think so. she's from montalban in rizal fyi.
i asked if the virgin is doctor certified. she sid no need, she would promise to me that he was. i said i will provide a dcotor. they were shocked and didn't know how to reply to that one. its fun playing these games sometimes. [/quote]that price had me lmao ff. it might be a good idea to provide the name of this scammer and her "17 year old" friend to help others.
i looked on dia for your sweety venice, but could not find her under the name you provided. i did come across several with some variations on the name, but was unsure of which one would be the girl you mentioned. it might be helpful to know where she is located as well.
hw
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Sweetyvenice
I've found her, at least that's what I think. Did you try to write her name as one word? Try sweetyvenice.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1150243]I looked on DIA for your Sweety venice, but could not find her under the name you provided. I did come across several with some variations on the name, but was unsure of which one would be the girl you mentioned. It might be helpful to know where she is located as well.
HW[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Brastrav; 1150350]I've found her, at least that's what I think. Did you try to write her name as one word? Try sweetyvenice.
Good luck. [/QUOTE]Nope. It didn't occur to me to try that, although I know that is how many of them are listed. Thanks for the hint! Sometimes I overlook the obvious.
HW
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Bad boy
[QUOTE=Forest; 1150100]Can you educate us and tell us what you wrote? How many responses did you get?
As for your good guy profile, did you respond by mentioning your desire to have sex? Or, do you portray yourself as looking for a long term relationship? [/QUOTE]I'll PM you regarding this.
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No kidding. That sure could be a set up!
[quote=freebiefan; 1150103]every time i log on one girl tells me how she wants to meet me. she often tells me she has no money for her baby but seems to have enough to go on internet daily.
so i told her i would meet her in makati. not really intending to but to see what would happen. told her we would meet this weekend. lo and behold, two days ago she appears on cam with her "friend". friend is 17 and a virgin and did i want to take her friend for 40k. nope i said i had no interest in an **** virgin. they seemed dissappointed. after a chat today the latest tack is that we will all go to a hotel and the virgin will watch. does this particular set of messages have scam written all over it. ? i think so. she's from montalban in rizal fyi.
i asked if the virgin is doctor certified. she sid no need, she would promise to me that he was. i said i will provide a dcotor. they were shocked and didn't know how to reply to that one. its fun playing these games sometimes. [/quote]
fyi; recently one of the the news shows did an undercover sting on **** girls meeting with guys at hotels as well as another show which did not identify the mall but judging from the footage it was harrison plaza with **** girls. any one caught will be dealt with harshly rest assured.
this girl you are on cam with, is saying "scam" avoid her like the plague. to many red flags for my liking. with all the pussy available in here you just do not need that type of problem. your crazy to waste two minutes even playing games with her.
girls whether part time hookers at mbc or college girls usually do not act like that. the meets are straight forward.
it may surprise some people but do not underestimate the devious nature of even an 18 year old here in philippines. money are the prime motivators for all they do. ethics and honesty are in short supply.
cheers
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Webcam record
Can anyone advice me for a tool to record the webcam of my chatmate when she is showing in cam on ym?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Ctrlless; 1150539]Can anyone advice me for a tool to record the webcam of my chatmate when she is showing in cam on ym?
Thanks! [/QUOTE]I use Jing:
[url]http://www.techsmith.com/Jing/?gclid=COKet8-PxKgCFQHbbgodyVqJpg[/url]
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Webcam Recording
Snagit works well for what you want to do.
[QUOTE=Ctrlless; 1150539]Can anyone advice me for a tool to record the webcam of my chatmate when she is showing in cam on ym?
Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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Olongapo gal
I have a dating site contact who is looking for meetups. PM me for details.
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Frustrating and pointless conversations
I can often forgive DIA girls for their naivety, lack of education and limited attention span, after all most guys here are not looking for an academic genius to bed and bang. However every so often I will chat on yahoo messenger with a girl I am interested in where I honestly feel like throwing in the towel. I was about to scream in despair by the end of this conversation which I have cut and pasted below. The conversation was about arranging to meet up again on line the following day.
Jackson if you happen to read this there is something wrong with your editing software. The word bang appears twice once the report is posted, but only appears once when being edited. I have come across this problem before
Her: can I chat you tomorrow again its night over.
Me: ok what time, can you come on line 4pm?
Her: what your time there now.
Me: I am six hours behind you.
Me: so if you come on line at 4pm it will be 10am here.
Her: 4 in night.
Me: no you come on line 4pm in afternoon.
Her: we not both in time.
Me: look why is this so difficult? Just come on line 4pm in afternoon and I will be on line.
Her: 2in night.
Me: can you go on line 4pm in afternoon?
Her: like this time.
Me: listen to me again please, just go on line when it is 4pm in the afternoon in Cebu, can you do that for me?
Me: do you understand?
Her: you do my own time.
Her: or follow my time ok I will.
Me: stop worrying about the time here just worry about the time there please.
Her: OK I will sorry.
Me: ok thanks so speak later take care. Bye x.
Her: bye ake care
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[quote=frank4220; 1150511]fyi; recently one of the the news shows did an undercover sting on **** girls meeting with guys at hotels as well as another show which did not identify the mall but judging from the footage it was harrison plaza with **** girls. any one caught will be dealt with harshly rest assured.
this girl you are on cam with, is saying "scam" avoid her like the plague. to many red flags for my liking. with all the pussy available in here you just do not need that type of problem. your crazy to waste two minutes even playing games with her.
girls whether part time hookers at mbc or college girls usually do not act like that. the meets are straight forward.
it may surprise some people but do not underestimate the devious nature of even an 18 year old here in philippines. money are the prime motivators for all they do. ethics and honesty are in short supply.
cheers[/quote]the show you refer to is called bitag and the host ben tulfo is the philippines version of geraldo rivera. the episode in question deals with **** girls from the province brought to manila with or without there knowledge that they would be having sex with mostly korean and japanese men and a few local businessmen. most were told they would be brought to manila so they could meet foreign men who want to marry sweet women from the province, or atleast that's what they told the reporter once they were tracked and followed to a smaller manila hotel and the reporter burst into the room to "free them". as a direct result of the airing of this program certain government agencies are watching this type of activity closer than ever before.
if a girl online tells you she is **** tell her nicely that you are looking for someone older and move on. you do not want to be seen nation-wide in your hanes underwear and tshirt handcuffed on tv patrol coming out of some hotel to made an example of.
there are also incidents where everyone from the mayor and police department, in cooperation with the girl and her family all try to cash in and make a sizable withdrawl from your bank account.
you meet the girl and you go to the hotel and 20mins later while you are in bed with the girl, your hotel door gets opened by hotel staff at the demands of the pnp or local police. there stands the family who seem deeply outraged and you are brought to the police station in handcuffs for questioning. the police tell you that the family will press charges and you could spend years in prision and they leave you alone in the cell to think for awhile. the policeman comes back in an hour with an "offer" to make the unfortunate incident all go away. it seems the family is very poor and maybe if you give them a small donation of anywhere from 1millionp to 100000p and this will all go away.
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Do most of the guys here always chat up the girls for awhile before meeting? My strategy has always been to just chat up girls on DIA by message only a week before I get there and just get their number and pretty much end communication except if they send me a small message. Is there an advantage to keep chatting them up over and over again before?
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[QUOTE=Mookman;1150753]Do most of the guys here always chat up the girls for awhile before meeting? My strategy has always been to just chat up girls on DIA by message only a week before I get there and just get their number and pretty much end communication except if they send me a small message. Is there an advantage to keep chatting them up over and over again before?[/QUOTE]Your approach is fine. If you chat them a month ahead of time 2-3 times, get her number, and then don't be in contact until you arrive (via txt msg) , she will have forgotten who you are. They have the attention span of a gnat, and they chat a dozen guys in a day.
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Beware scammers
[url]http://www2.myfreecams.com/?user=[/url]
Guys beware myfreecams. Most of the girls are cool but one girl in particular from Angeles, is lovelyn18 is a total scammer.
Avoid her like the plague. Not friendly and takes many tokens with out so much as shit.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Mookman;1150753]Do most of the guys here always chat up the girls for awhile before meeting? My strategy has always been to just chat up girls on DIA by message only a week before I get there and just get their number and pretty much end communication except if they send me a small message. Is there an advantage to keep chatting them up over and over again before?[/QUOTE]Your "Modus operandi " is best. Chat up just before going there. The girls are most receptive either by "ga ga-I got a Rich BF " to " I make money from this stupid jerk "
All the girls loose interest in chatting if they think the guy will never show up. I have lost many a good looking girls this way. Best thing to do is call them by getting their phone numbers. They all like that.
Once you are in Phi selective texting is good to meet them.
Once you and the girl become " friends " you can keep chatting with them. Their questions will always be" when are you coming back " to " did you find another girl "
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1150929]Once you and the girl become " friends " you can keep chatting with them. Their questions will always be" when are you coming back " to " did you find another girl "[/QUOTE]You forgot the other common questions that I always get asked by text "did you eat your breakfast / lunch / dinner?" and "did you take your vitamins?" is another very odd but regular question that I often get asked.
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[QUOTE=Mookman;1150753]Do most of the guys here always chat up the girls for awhile before meeting? My strategy has always been to just chat up girls on DIA by message only a week before I get there and just get their number and pretty much end communication except if they send me a small message. Is there an advantage to keep chatting them up over and over again before?[/QUOTE]It depends on what your intentions are towards them. If you going to give them a hard shag, sore pussy and a few hundred pesos then send them on their way your strategy is best. If you're looking for a real girlfriend then you're looking for one that can have meaningful communication over a period of time.
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Did You Eat?
[QUOTE=Mortman;1150940]You forgot the other common questions that I always get asked by text "did you eat your breakfast / lunch / dinner?" and "did you take your vitamins?" is another very odd but regular question that I often get asked.[/QUOTE]Those questions fall more in the realm of polite salutations. Remember, many of those people cannot eat when their tummy tells them that its time. A couple of meals, roof over their head, electricty and a mattress to sleep on are luxuries for many there.
Did you eat your breakfast is the one that I hear most often. I personally don't eat breakfast when I'm in USA. When I am in Phils I make sure that I either cook or take the girls out for breakfast.
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Here you go DCups
Here's one for you mate.
Profile name is < she's here (exact) on DIA.
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I'm getting ready to head over to Manila and I already started my usual of chatting up a bunch of girls on DIA. Running into the usual problems,"why are you on here again, you looking for another girl" all the while they are on DIA too looking for someone else.
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Need some advice:
What are your thoughts on girls that want to bring a friend when meeting for the first time?
Also,
What about girls that say they told their mom about you?
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Mookman
[QUOTE=Mookman; 1151176]Need some advice:
What are your thoughts on girls that want to bring a friend when meeting for the first time?
Also,
What about girls that say they told their mom about you? [/QUOTE]Many of the DIA girls want to bring friends along, that is unless they are seasoned hookers. Don't worry it is perfectly normal and it can sometimes lead to an unexpected bonus, meaning a threesome (but do not take this for granted). Also do not worry about Mom, families are very close here and unless the girl is living away from home the chances are if she does not tell Mom where she is going they will demand to know anyway, even more so if she is staying overnight with you. Don't get freaked out by this as it is all perfectly normal.
What you do need to make clear with the girl right at the outset is that one friend is ok, anymore than that and you will walk. The reason is that some girls will use the opportunity of meeting you to feed their entire family and friends and I can guarantee they will always turn up feeling hungry. Purchasing one or two jolibees or Mcdonalds is perfectly acceptable in my book for a first meeting, feeding the entire extended family is not.
Just in case you think I am exaggerating, I arranged to meet a young DIA girl in Ayalla a few years ago. She turned up with about 6 members of her family (including a six month old baby) who were all pleading hunger. Once you have got yourself into that situation it is difficult to extracate yourself without buying food for everyone, or leaving and feeling completely heartless.
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Mortman, thanks for the advice, I actually wouldn't mind finding a real girlfriend here if it was the right person. The mom thing just freaked me out cause I never heard that one before. I will take your advice so that I don't end up feeding an army. Thanks.
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This is actually my first real time using DIA to meet up girls, I did once before but I had to stop because I got busy at work. My usual technique has been to chat up random girls in the mall and stores but like I explained in previous posts, it's real hit or miss. My back up is a contact I made 8-10 years ago when I first starting coming to PI. He sends me model quality girls for 20K, yes, I know its a crazy amount and I really don't do it often but when I say these girls are model quality, I'm not kidding. Light skin, young, and fresh. Some told me they were local pagent winners or something for what's its worth. It'll have to be my back up again, if the DIA thing doesn't work out. Haha.
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[QUOTE=Mortman;1151180]Many of the DIA girls want to bring friends along, that is unless they are seasoned hookers. Don't worry it is perfectly normal and it can sometimes lead to an unexpected bonus, meaning a threesome (but do not take this for granted). . . . . . . SNIP. . . . .[/QUOTE]There is another scenario Mort that is easier and more predictable than hoping for a threesome.
I have met 2 girls in the past 8 months who brought a friend along to meeting #1 and each time the friend was way more interesting and sexy than the original target. I wrote about them on ISG.
Each time we all enjoyed some drinks and snacks and shared CP numbers (friend included) and away they went.
In the Cebu case the hot friend was back in my hotel room with me within an hour of them both leaving the restaurant after a few texts were exchanged. The other one took longer but I met her too once she was sure her friend (the original target) wouldn't find out.
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Let them know, be honest
[QUOTE=Mookman;1151144]I'm getting ready to head over to Manila and I already started my usual of chatting up a bunch of girls on DIA. Running into the usual problems,"why are you on here again, you looking for another girl" all the while they are on DIA too looking for someone else.[/QUOTE]They should know you are meeting only for fun. If you let them think they will be staying overnight or indefinately, they think automatically they are your gf. More clarity on your part before arrival will help clear that up. Does she know you intend to meet her for just an afternoon or evening of fun? If you are playing the "I'm a nice guy. You want to meet next week when I'm there?" thing, she will think you are coming there for her. Only.
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The mom (or worse)
[quote=mookman; 1151176]need some advice:
what are your thoughts on girls that want to bring a friend when meeting for the first time?
also,
what about girls that say they told their mom about you? [/quote]don't fret young man. go west. you are in the 'peens'. i work my chat like this: be honest, tell them what you are looking for. you will lose a bunch, but what is left is gold. i tell them i will meet them in public, mall, starbucks, mcdo. she can bring one friend only: friend, aunt, mom, cousin, etc. i will buy them a drink or a meal. when we are done with the drink / meal, i am leaving for my hotel. she can go home with her friend, or she's coming with me for a banging. this quickly eliminates girls who were not serious about the meet-and-hammer.
you might think it odd, meeting a mom. who is your age. the first time, thats exactly how you will feel. have meet several now, who came with their daughter to meet me, then let their beauty walk off with me.
one girl in lapu said she was bringing a friend, but showed up with her (limping) gramma. i bought them a jollibee lunch, where gramma did not speak. the girl was 18. when i said that i was leaving, gramma got up and walked around the table and tugged my shirt gently and walked away. i followed her. we walked 10 feet, and suddenly she had a voice. that spoke english:
gramma: you can help the girl.
me: yes.
that was it. gramma walked over, spoke bisaya to the girl, about one sentence, and then she limped off into the mall. i asked the girl if she was ready to go and she grabbed her sodapop and we walked outside and grabbed a taxi.
mook, i will pm you.
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I must agree with most of the advice given about how long you should communicate with the DIA girls before visiting. I have been wanting to visit PI for a long time now, but have not been able to do so due to moving for my job, and money issues after the move. I started chatting with many DIA contacts prior to my move last year. I anticipated being able to visit PI shortly after the move. But since that didn't happen, many have stopped sending any kind of replies to my messages. Some of those were girls that outright told me they would love to meet for sex. My loss, I guess. So I have been copying the URL links of the girls I think are good prospects, and saving them for later contact, when I am sure I will be able to take that flight. I won't contact these girls more than a month prior to my arrival there. But I will insist on multiple web cam sessions to ensure the girl looks as good as her DIA photo.
HW
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Got a bite
From dating site, got a 41 yr-old cebuena, looking purely for hotel fun with white gents. Fairly attractive. Only in cebu city for another week, returning to middle-east for work. Doesn't need financial, drinks only. PM if you want details.
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1151366]You might think it odd, meeting a mom. Who is your age.
Mook, I will PM you.[/QUOTE]Few years back I was always older than the parents of the "girl du jour". Recently I've gotten older and my girls have gotten younger. With the result that last week, one ladies dad was actually 3 year younger than me. Girl didn't bat an eye, and so neither did I. But its quite weird at first.
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". For her. Only". And of course many will ask you if you plan to meet another girl. I prefer to answer in a vague way, which neverthless should be understood.
Will you meet other girls?
X: I hope so!
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1151362]They should know you are meeting only for fun. If you let them think they will be staying overnight or indefinately, they think automatically they are your gf. More clarity on your part before arrival will help clear that up. Does she know you intend to meet her for just an afternoon or evening of fun? If you are playing the "I'm a nice guy. You want to meet next week when I'm there?" thing, she will think you are coming there for her. Only.[/QUOTE]
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2 photos
Worst Ladyboy Ever.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3211796[/url]
Sorry to screw up the forum. Hope no one looses their lunch.
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Ups and Downs of DIA
An update to my DIA adventures. So like I mentioned before, I only chat up the girls about a week before heading over and not much else. My success rate at actually meeting the girl is about 20. I could of brought it up to 40% or so but that would be with effort on my part. So usually, when I come to the PI, I just come here for work and never do much sightseeing, this time I decided to try my hand at some adventure. My first order of business was, I'm going to meet a girl's mother, so I find a girl on DIA that was pretty cute, so I figure, why not. What a big friggin mistake, which I won't be making again. She didn't bring the whole family, just a little sister, the mother and girl. They wanted to eat at some Gumbo place, total damage was 1600p, not bad. So I convince the mom of my noble intentions, which were, I would of made this girl my girlfriend in the PI. So I tell her, that the next day we're going to go on a tour of Manila and she should come alone, no escort. She agrees. Next day, I get a text, she doesn't feel well. Later that day, another text, I'm a bad person because I wanted to take advantage of her because I wouldn't let her bring an escort. Mind you we really were going to go on a tour of Manila only. Anyway, long story short, there's a lot you have to be aware of when meeting the mother. I just did it this time cause I had time to kill but never again.
DIA has been really hit or miss for me. This is really the first time I used it and one night I meet a sweet girl that trembling as I undress her, the next night, I'm in my hotel room alone because all the girls flake or take forever to get there, I have a 2 hour late rule, which you would think is being very generous but it usually takes 4 hours longer than the promised time for a girl to show up.
On my last night, I just ended up using my contact, paid 20k but she was a stunner, we went out to go eat dinner and there was not one guy that didn't do a double take or stare, which I notice guys do without discretion. Light skin. 19, long hair, well spoken, barely an accent, aspiring model. When I say stunner, she is in a different league than the stunner you took out of AC or EDSA before. Haha. On a side note, I got a couple of PM's for my contact. My contact is not a pimp, or least he isn't anymore. Haha. He's a successful businessman with many foreign clients and he just hooks me up as a favor, and I pay the girl directly, no middleman. When we first met he took me around looking for girls at various places but seeing how picky I was, I'm really picky, this is the system that we worked out. So I really can't give a contact number out because this isn't his job, just a friend doing a favor.
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[QUOTE=Jambo; 1152763][url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3211796[/url]
Sorry to screw up the forum. Hope no one looses their lunch. [/QUOTE]Well I lost my lunch, and I still don't feel like facing dinner either.
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[QUOTE=Mookman;1152956]On my last night, I just ended up using my contact, paid 20k but she was a stunner[/QUOTE]As in 20 000 PHP?
If this is the case, you need other type of help my friend.
All the best from Barba
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Wonder what the girl got paid?
"On my last night, I just ended up using my contact, paid 20k but she was a stunner, we went out to go eat dinner and there was not one guy that didn't do a double take or stare, which I notice guys do without discretion. Light skin. 19, long hair, well spoken, barely an accent, aspiring model. When I say stunner, she is in a different league than the stunner you took out of AC or EDSA before. Haha. On a side note, I got a couple of PM's for my contact. My contact is not a pimp, or least he isn't anymore. Haha. He's a successful businessman with many foreign clients and he just hooks me up as a favor, and I pay the girl directly, no middleman. When we first met he took me around looking for girls at various places but seeing how picky I was, I'm really picky, this is the system that we worked out. So I really can't give a contact number out because this isn't his job, just a friend doing a favor."
I have no doubt about what you are telling us here on the board. She probably was a hot looking wannabe model. But living here in the Philippines and knowing that no one does anything for free, I would think that the girl probably saw 8, 000-10, 000 if she was lucky.
You should have kept her number and bypassed your connection, as I am sure she has other friends available.
Filipino's are notorious for getting their commissions. I really try my best to exclude that bs at all costs, no matter what I am paying for.
Believe me when I say, that no one here when it comes to money, does shit for free. Business men, police, government officials at all levels, trike drivers. It is the nature of the beast. When a Filipino calls me his friend, I squeeze my ass cheeks and hold on tight to my wallet.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Frank4220;1153299]I have no doubt about what you are telling us here on the board. She probably was a hot looking wannabe model. But living here in the Philippines and knowing that no one does anything for free, I would think that the girl probably saw 8, 000-10, 000 if she was lucky.[/QUOTE]More likely 5000. I'm wondering how one stunner is in a different league than another. Either she turns heads or she doesn't.
[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1153299]When a Filipino calls me his friend, I squeeze my ass cheeks and hold on tight to my wallet.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Hahahaha.
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From the (triple) X-files
Three of today's respondents to my bad-boy dating profile. Obviously you lose many right off the bat when they actually go back and read it. For the remainder, like shooting fish in a shallow barrel.
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Me: did you read what I write in my profile.
Cebuchick: yes.
Me: it says I'm only come there for adult fun with lady on my hotel.
Cebuchick: ok.
Me: your ok to it.
Cebuchick: yes why not?
BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Me: after we have lunch you can go home or you can go with me on my hotel.
Cebuchick: I go your hotel.
Me: also your ok to camera.
Cebuchick: mmmm.
Cebuchick: yes.
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Me: did you read what I write in my profile, what I'm looking for?
Iliganchick (s) : yes. Your not want marry.
Me: correct.
Iliganchick (s) : your just want fun.
Me: yes.
Iliganchick (s) : f*cking?
Me: correct.
Iliganchick (s) : ok.
Me: are you ok to that.
Iliganchick (s) : yes can I bring my friend she 30.
Me: yes if you and your friend are ok to my camera.
Iliganchick (s) : yes ok.
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Me: you said you read my profile.
Taguigchick: hehe yes you want only a sex I think.
Me: correct.
Taguigchick: ok I can.
Me: are you ok to me using my camera.
Taguigchick: yes I like
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Beware that while chatting they say yes to everything. Once you meet it could be a different story. You would not believe what they say for a free meal. Once you agree for lunch or dinner they may show up with 2 or three of their friends who just want a free meal.
If they agree to have sex with you before meeting obviously they are working girls and you will pay the going rate.
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[QUOTE=Sammon; 1153470]Beware that while chatting they say yes to everything. Once you meet it could be a different story. You would not believe what they say for a free meal. Once you agree for lunch or dinner they may show up with 2 or three of their friends who just want a free meal.[/QUOTE]Sammon, way ahead of you. About half the girls want to bring a friend (or 3). I'm very clear in chat she can bring one other person, and I'm buying the first coffee or jollibee. When I finish my drink, I'm going back to my hotel. She can go home with the friend (my taxi dime) or come with me. We have discussed the meet-and-hammer already. I've been doing this for some time; in my years of travel I have had only one girl not come to the hotel. I don't agree to meet girls who have not already agreed to the naughty after we meet in the mall. My profile is, after all, playboy.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1153470]If they agree to have sex with you before meeting obviously they are working girls and you will pay the going rate.[/QUOTE]I usually place the going rate in every girl's purse while she showers after the fun, whether its asked for or not. I'm not concerned about the money for my sake. I can afford to give her 500 or 5000 for an afternoon. I get more concerned about keeping the "going rate" at the going rate. Its been on very rare occasion that I've offended a girl by putting money in her purse. Given the fact that so few have complained when I dropped some money on them (read my previous Manila posting of Caryn) , and so many (all the rest) who have gladly accepted the money (txt: thanks! When we meet again?) , its fair to say most are, in some sense, working girls. But, I could also say that of several of my wealthy buddies wives.
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The girls cut is 15k, she gives 5k to her handler, my buddy doesn't make a dime off the transaction. He doesn't need to, he makes more money than me and would be offended if I offered him money. He actually paid in the beginning for me until we got in a big fight over who pays. I insisted that I start paying for the girls because it just wasn't right having him shell out 20k every time I wanted to have fun but being the gracious host that he is, it took a very big fight for me to start paying. Obviously, with the prices that are paid on this board, it's hard to justify 20k, I'm just sharing my experience and not trying to advocate one is better than the other. Just like some people prefer expensive cars and others think it's a waste of money. Open up an issue of FHM Philippines, enough said. I've gone into enough detail. My preference is still for regular girl that you can sometimes meet on the streets or on DIA but once in awhile, it just reminds me of home to speak to a girl that is well educated and has traveled a bit. Most of the girls, I've meet through the 20k have traveled all around Asia on model shoots and whatnot. I always ask them for their direct number, which I do get but when I ask for additional contacts, they tell me they can't because they would never dare let anybody know that they do this on the side for extra money because it might ruin them.
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[QUOTE=Mookman;1153798]. . . . . . . . . Just like some people prefer expensive cars and others think it's a waste of money. Open up an issue of FHM Philippines, enough said.. . . . . . . .[/QUOTE]There is a local businessman owns a unit in my condo for discreet dalliances.
One of his girls is an FHM Philippines girl who is also a "starlet" and an escort girl too. He gives her 50, 000 php per month to be available for whenever he wants.
She lives a good life with money from all kinds of ventures.
Not all girls have to be satisfied with 500 or 1000 php tips.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1154006]One of his girls is an FHM Philippines girl who is also a "starlet" and an escort girl too. He gives her 50, 000 php per month to be available for whenever he wants.[/QUOTE]Is sounds so much and then I start to think what some women in my life did cost me. .
Well, it is all an equation and as long as we land on out feet, what difference does the numbers make?
We live and then we die.
/B
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From "Starlet" To Fucklet"
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1154006]There is a local businessman owns a unit in my condo for discreet dalliances.
One of his girls is an FHM Philippines girl who is also a "starlet" and an escort girl too. He gives her 50, 000 php per month to be available for whenever he wants.
She lives a good life with money from all kinds of ventures.
Not all girls have to be satisfied with 500 or 1000 php tips.[/QUOTE]Some girls get all the breaks!
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[QUOTE=Barba; 1154232]We live and then we die.
/B[/QUOTE]But in between, if we're lucky, we get to have some pretty good times.
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Looking for Mr. Right. My Mr. Right is not fat and so old.
"Looking for Mr. Right. My Mr. Right is not fat and so old."
Manilyn A
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1154396]But in between, if we're lucky, we get to have some pretty good times.[/QUOTE]Yes thank god! And soon enough, my friend it might just be our time again.
B. Drooling over DIA
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[QUOTE=Barba; 1154232]Is sounds so much and then I start to think what some women in my life did cost me. .
Well, it is all an equation and as long as we land on out feet, what difference does the numbers make? [/QUOTE]You're right Barba.
50, 000 php per month isn't much but it is just retainer money for her that this guy gives her to be available for him.
I don't know how much she earns from her other ventures but she sure smiles a lot hehe.
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DIA Profile extraordinaire. Try translating this
Fu wnt you like.
I'm analie who you love the truth nd thenn we marray me ndthen I'm single f you like a sex width me f you want who real loving me nd carring, honest of cource, un derstanding I'm simple but? Rock I like dancing, nd singing, I love my body, friendly, smileng. I tell you later? Nd then I like dancing nd, singing, of cource shopping, travel, or vacation another country nd support me, nd my mother CZ? My father is desseases 7 years until now? Nd me simple but? Rock super friendly. 2 someone treat methe same way.
I want to meet a Male
With age from 40 to 60
And I want to meet for Other.
Hwo love me you meet nd then nd serious tome I decide nd then I like marry forigner nd loving me the truth nd, honest, not play boy
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[QUOTE=Mookman;1153798]The girls cut is 15k, she gives 5k to her handler, my buddy doesn't make a dime off the transaction.[/QUOTE]Do these girls give BBBJ's?
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Okay, I'll give it a shot:
"Let's get together and you can give my pussy a test drive. If you like my pussy, then I am hopeful that you'll buy the entire package by marrying me."
RG.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1154717]Fu wnt you like.
I'm analie who you love the truth nd thenn we marray me ndthen I'm single f you like a sex width me f you want who real loving me nd carring, honest of cource, un derstanding I'm simple but? Rock I like dancing, nd singing, I love my body, friendly, smileng. I tell you later? Nd then I like dancing nd, singing, of cource shopping, travel, or vacation another country nd support me, nd my mother CZ? My father is desseases 7 years until now? Nd me simple but? Rock super friendly. 2 someone treat methe same way.
I want to meet a Male
With age from 40 to 60
And I want to meet for Other.
Hwo love me you meet nd then nd serious tome I decide nd then I like marry forigner nd loving me the truth nd, honest, not play boy[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1154753]Okay, I'll give it a shot:
"Let's get together and you can give my pussy a test drive. If you like my pussy, then I am hopeful that you'll buy the entire package by marrying me."
RG[/QUOTE]I think you got it 100% right !
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A sad yet funny profile text
I found this profile browsing cb. She says it all. I wonder who would contact her.
"Hello, every one my name is. I am from phils I am. 20 years old I had a baby. He is boy. I am single mom. I live by my self. I am only one. Who take care of my son. I'm not live with my parents. I neVer see them. Since I'm stay in my bf. But he left when I'm getting pregnanT! 1. But. He born already now. And my baby is. Old. He born on. 200*
And now I am pregnant but still single mom they always left me and never support my baby now I have two kids. Its very hard for me and don't know what to do and I don't know how to survive this kind of problem its hard to be alone.
I don't have work here. I am just doing loundry and its not always I don't have permanent job to earn enough. To give my kids a better life "
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How can I contact her. Haha!
[QUOTE=Sampling; 1154896]I found this profile browsing cb. She says it all. I wonder who would contact her.
"Hello, every one my name is. I am from phils I am. 20 years old I had a baby. He is boy. I am single mom. I live by my self. I am only one. Who take care of my son. I'm not live with my parents. I neVer see them. Since I'm stay in my bf. But he left when I'm getting pregnanT! 1. But. He born already now. And my baby is. Old. He born on. 200*
And now I am pregnant but still single mom they always left me and never support my baby now I have two kids. Its very hard for me and don't know what to do and I don't know how to survive this kind of problem its hard to be alone.
I don't have work here. I am just doing loundry and its not always I don't have permanent job to earn enough. To give my kids a better life "[/QUOTE]Gee. And most of you thought it was your good looks and charm that made them interested in you! She sounds very typical of many girls here. Have one son that you can not afford then get knocked up a second time.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1154936]Gee. And most of you thought it was your good looks and charm that made them interested in you! She sounds very typical of many girls here. Have one son that you can not afford then get knocked up a second time.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I don't think most guys realize that when they go on those dating sites they're in the salvage business purchasing damaged goods with no value on the local market.
Check this one out:
'Looking a good man for my young sister, she is widow. 29 years old with 3 young kids. My sister is a loving person and sweet. She is shy at first but willing to learn new things. Those who are serious and interested with my sister, the best way to get in touch and start knowing with her is to writing an email and see what's happen.
Responsible, love kids, got sense of humor, friendly, ready for commitment, compassionate, unconditionally love and above all God fearing. Getting wife from Philippines is not easy. Involved everything such as physical, mental, spiritual and financial. But it is worthy because we are family oriented, faithful and God fearing like my husband that love me so much! And I love him too! '
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1154742]Do these girls give BBBJ's?[/QUOTE]Yes, can go BB to I guess, but I never tried.
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Interpreting DIA profiles
Hi everyone,
Been reading through this forum, but hadn't seen anything really (but I may have missed it) that helps me get a sense of how these girls write their profiles. That is, I've been reading profiles on DIA, and most all make comments about loving caring man, long-term relationship, love me forever, etc. Also a lot of God fearing this and that. Reading all of that and one would think that none of these girls would meet you-unless of course you simply lied to them, and led them to believe that you were looking for your future wife. I get the sense from reading the board that this is not what most of you do, and in fact, leading them on like that sounds like it would be more problematic-ie I've seen posts about trouble getting the girl to leave in the morning.
So, are there key words, phrases, etc that are commonly used here to signal that they are looking for a more short-term affair? Or do you need to just go fishing, ignore all the "love me forever" stuff, and see what happens?
Thanks!
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Random Profiles
I read lots of profiles in my spare time. Great hobby for the feeble minded:
I'm NOT A PERFECT GIRL. I LIKE BEING UNPERFECT.
40 Yr old Philippine Nanny working in Greece in Filipino Heart.
I am somebody who loves a simple life and searching someone who could love an anatomy of the heart not the anatomy of the body.
33 yr old from Cebu without children. What a gem.
Makati Girl; No picture; Average looking appearance; 5'1' Slim; 211 lbs. 23 yrs old student.
Someone who is good looking and on the slim / athletic side. Age doesn't really matter, but of course you have to be young at heart! I like progressive minds who can carry on a conversation. If you can't stimulate my mind, then there's no way you could ever get me wet. Remaining safe is extremely important to me, and being respectful and communicative should be top on your list because it is on mine.
I thought all 23 year olds were wet all the time. But then, what do I know. I just learned that slim is a 211 lbs girl. You've got to love them for what's in their heart. At least they put a profile out there and are willing to meet up with us crazy foreigners.
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This One is a Professor of English
Cherry Blossoms. 18yo Cebuana:
[quote]A well-organized paragraph supports or develops a single controlling idea, which is expressed in a sentence called the topic sentence. A topic sentence has several important functions: it substantiates or supports an essays thesis statement;...[/quote]And on like that for several more sentences.
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From an unemployed 29 yr old single mother:
"he needs to be responsible. Loving person that will accept my son and love me for what I am. And of course he must be emotionally matured and financially stable."
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A pinay in USA on DiA
A girl by the nick name bella_boo writes.
"seeking for a serious relationship, now in united states.
I'm a filipina. No surprise about that. Basic facts about me. Been single for so long. I can be easily be with. If you have a DOG uhmm we are in the right path. Love movies, fan of music, and I can also party. Hehe.
Hi, I'm also here to ask any donation for my plane ticket going back home."
What got my attention was the last sentence where she mentions donation. Donation in exchange to what? She did not reply to my pm.
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The Chilling Story of Genius in a Land of Chronic Unemployment
Not to distract from our primary goals and scaremonger, but a good read nevertheless.
[url]http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/15/the-chilling-story-of-genius-in-a-land-of-chronic-unemployment/[/url]
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Interesting story re Nigerian Dating scammers.
[QUOTE=Zip Lip; 1155790]Not to distract from our primary goals and scaremonger, but a good read nevertheless.
[url]http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/15/the-chilling-story-of-genius-in-a-land-of-chronic-unemployment/[/url][/QUOTE]My guess would be that 99% of the scammers posing as Phil girls in the Phil dating sites are Pinoys. However there are quite a few Russian and "Italian" girls that contact one now and again. My guess would be that the Russian girls are Russian scammers and the European girls are most likely African scammers.
I have seen the web cam loop before from one of these "Italian" girls and I think it's worth warning people of as many people find a 2 minute web cam session convincing. The answer of course if you suspect you are being fed a webcam loop is to ask the girl to do something interactively.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1156115]My guess would be that 99% of the scammers posing as Phil girls in the Phil dating sites are Pinoys. However there are quite a few Russian and "Italian" girls that contact one now and again. My guess would be that the Russian girls are Russian scammers and the European girls are most likely African scammers.
I have seen the web cam loop before from one of these "Italian" girls and I think it's worth warning people of as many people find a 2 minute web cam session convincing. The answer of course if you suspect you are being fed a webcam loop is to ask the girl to do something interactively. [/QUOTE]I've chatted with a lot of girls from the Phils, and seen a lot of their cams, and I have maybe once suspected a web cam loop. The vast majority of them are actual Filipinas. Some of them are scammers, some are pros, but none of them so far has been a man with a video loop.
Russians, on the other hand, are all scammers on these sites.
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I Hate "Broadcasters"
Apparently its possible, on Yahoo Messenger, to send a message to everyone on your list, or in a group you have made.
Every now and then, I get a "Hi there" from a girl who has made it clear in chat before she is not interested in me. I am a dope enough to reply, and I get no response. She was "broadcasting".
In retaliation generally I expect my chat-mates to say "Hi Jambo" or "Hi Sir" before I will reply. I will also answer to "good morning your lordship". Haha.
Also I get copy-and-paste pleas for help that way. Most recently apparently the climate change (seems a well-informed girl!) has affected the crops and she and her immediate family may starve. Should I send a donation to UNICEF in her name?
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[QUOTE=Sampling;1155641]What got my attention was the last sentence where she mentions donation. Donation in exchange to what? She did not reply to my pm.[/QUOTE]She said donation, not service fee ;)
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Differences in Indonesia and Philippines
Many times mongers here will ask about the relative mongering opportunities either Jakarta or Manila. Both cities in my expereince are great for freebie mongering.
So today was looking at a couple of Indonesian profiles when one ladys profile says " no retarded Philippinos". I thought that was a tad inflammatory (she also said no US or Dutch but didn't call them retarded ).
So I wrote her and asked her if she knew that both Indonesia and Philipines were equally overcrowded, equal levels of corruption, equally bad traffic problems, equally rich families that would not share the wealth etc.
Her final post was
Hah! It depends on what kind of indo girls that you dated with. Many educated indo woman who keep EXIST than the pinoys. Many GREAT university and better than there.
Indonesia more interesting country than the retarded nation one aka philipinos.
If Indonesia isn't interesting, why USA get close to us and grab our resources such as FREEPORT company.
If you know well about Jakarta, so you won't say philipinos city is beautiful LOL.
If you know well about indo archipelago, you will say Indo have heaven islands.
Not talking about the hot girls, it just the packaging appearance, it just temporary.
About poverty. When USA had a crisis in 2008, Indonesia hadn't influenced, Indo not poor country, if we are poor, why many investors interest in here? Why many power people interest in here? Why CHINA and JAPAN have a great relationship with indo?
I'm not racist but I said the truth "
So there you go. I replied to this that she was merely stating the obvious and that I could state that Philippines had great uni's, that Phils was Us number 1 ally. But the sweet gal blocked me LOL.
So if anyone wants to dispute that Indonesia is way better than Philippines (and both have huge problems from my visits) find Chicabonita 26 Indonesia. Bit of an opinonated lass but at least it beats "godfearing soulmates" stuff.
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Whats in a name
The selection of a name, or a "nick" requires a certain skill, in order that the reader would instantly remember the person.
The world of DIA is filled with "pretty1234" " princess5678" and baby999" etc. Not to mention "sexy 123456789". But one lady in Nong Khai Thailand today caused me to think " wow what a brilliant name "
Her name is ORAL!
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What is it with Chinese women? I get interest from Filipinas from 18 on up, but I don't think I've ever been contacted by a Chinese woman who was less than 37, and they usually have kids. It's weird.
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[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob;1156872]What is it with Chinese women? I get interest from Filipinas from 18 on up, but I don't think I've ever been contacted by a Chinese woman who was less than 37, and they usually have kids. It's weird.[/QUOTE]I am not exactly an old China hand, but I believe the Chinese girls who are online have access to a fairly high standard of living, and can command a high price for her attentions. In Singapore and Malaysia the Chinese, with their milky skin, command the highest prices, just under any decent looking Ukrainians / Russians who may be around.
I am sure there are destitute Chinese girls in the provinces, but they probably can't get online, much less type in English.
I've heard Mongolian girls are eager.
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Its simple math!
[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob;1156872]What is it with Chinese women? I get interest from Filipinas from 18 on up, but I don't think I've ever been contacted by a Chinese woman who was less than 37, and they usually have kids. It's weird.[/QUOTE]With China's previous decades old one child policy and that policy favoring boys. There is a drastic shortage of women in China. I saw one documentary that talked about several hundred million bachelors with no hope of getting pussy.
No shortage of men with means chasing the hot girls. So most times we get the leftovers.
I tried a mainland dating site some years ago and I was younger and with a good job. All I got was the crumbs. Definitely low quality. That is my take of the situation.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1156587]....find Chicabonita 26 Indonesia.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]PS : no african, no middle east, no indian, no retarded philipinos, no DUTCH and NO USA! Thank you.
Welcome being friends if you are : Scandinavian, English, Canadian, OZ, Japanese, Latinos, South America (Brazillian, Argentinos) , German, French as funny as Remi Gaillard LOL[/QUOTE]She's not picky at all, is she? :o