[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1156902]She's not picky at all, is she? :o[/QUOTE]Maybe she has a list too. Women mongers.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1156902]She's not picky at all, is she? :o[/QUOTE]Maybe she has a list too. Women mongers.
Absolutely not.
I think she have high standard. ;)
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1156902]She's not picky at all, is she? :o[/QUOTE]
Anyone familiar with.
[url]www.paymycafe.com?[/url]
I met some girls on dating sites who ask me to buy them internet time on this site. The site charges 2dollars an hour which is almost 80php. When the girl opened the cam I had the feeling that she was chatting with many at the same time and asking them to buy her internet time. She kept asking me to buy her 9 and 10 hours internet time. That made me suspicious. What if she is getting a share from the site? Could this be a scam? Not that its a lot of money to buy internet time but I hate to be scammed with false promises because the girls promise meetups and ofcourse sex.
There is a DIA girl in Cebu who needs some urgent cash assistance (don't they all?)
This one is smart and quite sensible. Pocket rocket. Her name is %filipina (that's her exact name).
She has been fckd around by guys promising her all sorts of things and then they haven't even turned up so only contact her if you are in Cebu now or likely to be soon. She lives in the city.
Try Karen Mandreza in Quezon city. Says she's 20 on DIa but in YM she says she's 23. Sits on her bed in a bikini, doesn't have much to say (maybe its a cam loop but didn't look like it ). Says she's a student and after 30 minutes of inane chat when I say I have to leave she sweetly says " can you help me with my problem " LOL. Oh suprise suprise, she says she's never met a foreigner. Now where have I heard that before. LOL
Last trip met a student who surprised me with the firmness of her boobs and the tightness of her puss. Was a short meeting and at the end I sweetly gave her P1000 which she then requested to be P1500. Calls me honey and all the nice names and tells me I'm the first foreigner she's ever met. Never heard that line before. No really. !
She continues to write me every time she's on DIA telling me that we discussed her tuition fees and could I give her P20, 000 next trip. I do remember discussing tuition with her. I clearly asked what she was studying and that she advised that she wasnt studying anything at all.
God bless them when they get their stories mixed up.
But the best was the phone with the camera. She plaintively tells me on DIA but "you promised me a phone with a camera."
I remember that I stated that I said "IF" we meet again, I :MIGHT""PERHAPS" "POSSIBLY" have a look at an old second phone and not give her cash IF IF IF there was a next time.
And there you have the biggest cultural misunderstanding between Europeans and Asians. She heard the word promise, whereas I heard the words of possibly.
Anyways having replied to her that I clearly didn't promise and only hinted at this, I wondered what she would do.
A red blooded woman would have said " go away you lying horny dog, you only wanted to get in my pants."
But no, this smart trickster says " Well don't worry, we can talk about this for a long time when you come back. I can't wait to be in your arms again".
Where do 19 year olds learn these tricks.
At 4'8 and 106 she would seem to be a bit plump (for me). On the plus side, she would be at the right dimensions to give you some good nipple attention while you were plugging away.
As for guys "promising", a couple months ago I helped a gal set up an account with a service similar to DIA, but not free.
Sidenote: She is (was) a newbie to the debauchery of AC and it was fun to see how she lapped it all up. No pun intended.
So, get her signed up and we check the guys online now. She immediately recognizes two guys who have been to her bar. This was not a search in ac, it was just the guys online at that moment. Is that a coincidence or do they have some connection with the people running the site?
She thinks of them as customers, but I really think they are bar owners / managers looking for fresh talent. Or just guys who live there. Who knows.
A few days later she uses my computer and a guy has proposed marriage. This gets her interest of course. And I wonder why would a guy do this for fun. CS loves to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], but somehow I think this would be beneath him. No, wait, I take that back. CS would do anything for a laugh.
Since I set up her account I know the password, and I told her to change it later. Someone please tell me it is wrong to check. I already know from other sources that she's continued to had fun since I left. And, DAMN, I really did have fun with this little piece of Samar. Miss her.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1157308]There is a DIA girl in Cebu who needs some urgent cash assistance (don't they all?)
This one is smart and quite sensible. Pocket rocket. Her name is %filipina (that's her exact name).
She has been fckd around by guys promising her all sorts of things and then they haven't even turned up so only contact her if you are in Cebu now or likely to be soon. She lives in the city. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1157401]At 4'8 and 106 she would seem to be a bit plump (for me). On the plus side, she would be at the right dimensions to give you some good nipple attention while you were plugging away.
As for guys "promising", a couple months ago I helped a gal set up an account with a service similar to DIA, but not free.
Sidenote: She is (was) a newbie to the debauchery of AC and it was fun to see how she lapped it all up. No pun intended.
So, get her signed up and we check the guys online now. She immediately recognizes two guys who have been to her bar. This was not a search in ac, it was just the guys online at that moment. Is that a coincidence or do they have some connection with the people running the site?
She thinks of them as customers, but I really think they are bar owners / managers looking for fresh talent. Or just guys who live there. Who knows.
A few days later she uses my computer and a guy has proposed marriage. This gets her interest of course. And I wonder why would a guy do this for fun. CS loves to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], but somehow I think this would be beneath him. No, wait, I take that back. CS would do anything for a laugh.
Since I set up her account I know the password, and I told her to change it later. Someone please tell me it is wrong to check. I already know from other sources that she's continued to had fun since I left. And, DAMN, I really did have fun with this little piece of Samar. Miss her. [/QUOTE]Pinays love bola bola and I don't mean the meaty dish. It's perfectly ok to promise the world if that is what the little tricksters demand in return for allowing you to get your dick wet.
[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1156892]With China's previous decades old one child policy and that policy favoring boys. There is a drastic shortage of women in China. I saw one documentary that talked about several hundred million bachelors with no hope of getting pussy.
No shortage of men with means chasing the hot girls. So most times we get the leftovers.
I tried a mainland dating site some years ago and I was younger and with a good job. All I got was the crumbs. Definitely low quality. That is my take of the situation.
Cheers[/QUOTE]You can get young Chinese girls if you live there. But for visitor to get non P4P young girls it is hard. Age difference does not matter much. Stigma of being with a foreigner exists in China, more so with young girl with older foreigner.
Was browsing through internet and came across a website called "whatsyourprice. Com". . People put up a price for buying and selling dates.
Of course, suprise suprise the girls prices for being dated are ALWAYS higher than what the guys seem to be offereing. LOL. Never saw this site before.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1157362]Last trip met a student who surprised me with the firmness of her boobs and the tightness of her puss. Was a short meeting and at the end I sweetly gave her P1000 which she then requested to be P1500. Calls me honey and all the nice names and tells me I'm the first foreigner she's ever met. Never heard that line before. No really. !
She continues to write me every time she's on DIA telling me that we discussed her tuition fees and could I give her P20, 000 next trip. I do remember discussing tuition with her. I clearly asked what she was studying and that she advised that she wasnt studying anything at all.
God bless them when they get their stories mixed up.
But the best was the phone with the camera. She plaintively tells me on DIA but "you promised me a phone with a camera."
I remember that I stated that I said "IF" we meet again, I :MIGHT""PERHAPS" "POSSIBLY" have a look at an old second phone and not give her cash IF IF IF there was a next time.
And there you have the biggest cultural misunderstanding between Europeans and Asians. She heard the word promise, whereas I heard the words of possibly.
Anyways having replied to her that I clearly didn't promise and only hinted at this, I wondered what she would do.
A red blooded woman would have said " go away you lying horny dog, you only wanted to get in my pants."
But no, this smart trickster says " Well don't worry, we can talk about this for a long time when you come back. I can't wait to be in your arms again".
Where do 19 year olds learn these tricks. [/QUOTE]God bless her for trying. There is no end to the bull shit these girls will go to. They love to lie its in their genetic make up. Even when they are caught and cornered they lie again. Its rife thru Filipino families. They not only lie and cheat us but also each other.
Take my college gf she got burned by one of her friends about her activities but there is no way she will ever admit it.
On day she told me she needed two thousand for tuition but then tried to hit on this other white guy and asked him for 10, 000. I love the Philippines. Haha.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1158325]God bless her for trying. There is no end to the bull shit these girls will go to. They love to lie its in their genetic make up. Even when they are caught and cornered they lie again. Its rife thru Filipino families. They not only lie and cheat us but also each other.
Take my college gf she got burned by one of her friends about her activities but there is no way she will ever admit it.
On day she told me she needed two thousand for tuition but then tried to hit on this other white guy and asked him for 10, 000. I love the Philippines. Haha.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Ok here's another who may or probably isn't straight up.
Her first message.
"Hi want to have fun with me and my friends" I asked how much.
Its up to you where too are you here in Philippines want to meet" told her I'm there next week, and asked how many friends.
2 friends and me I hope we meet can you phone me 09081678759 I hope you send me money for our fair in taxi I think you will be happy to be with us " First try which I blew off.
Yes are you staying at dusit yes we know that place, can you send me money now for me to buy dress for our meeting if it is ok to you? Tries again. I admire persistence and told her no. Sensing the bait wasnt owrking.
Sorry if I offend you. I just want to look beautiful when you see me. But its ok I hope we meet in Friday is it ok?"
Niki04. She's all yours. Recommend some guys here play the same "maybe I will maybe I won't game". If they can waste our time we can surely waste theirs.
I sometimes overlook the generalizations people make from their limited experiences because it is, after all, human nature. But when I see something that has gone beyond generalization, beyond stereotype, and has firmly found roots in hysteric racism. I have to comment. The post below is beyond contempt. Proudly posted by X Man.
[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1158325]God bless her for trying. There is no end to the bull shit these girls will go to. They love to lie its in their genetic make up. Even when they are caught and cornered they lie again. Its rife thru Filipino families. They not only lie and cheat us but also each other.
Take my college gf she got burned by one of her friends about her activities but there is no way she will ever admit it.
On day she told me she needed two thousand for tuition but then tried to hit on this other white guy and asked him for 10, 000. I love the Philippines. Haha.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1158325]God bless her for trying. There is no end to the bull shit these girls will go to. They love to lie its in their genetic make up. Even when they are caught and cornered they lie again. Its rife thru Filipino families. They not only lie and cheat us but also each other.
Take my college gf she got burned by one of her friends about her activities but there is no way she will ever admit it.
On day she told me she needed two thousand for tuition but then tried to hit on this other white guy and asked him for 10, 000. I love the Philippines. Haha.
Cheers[/QUOTE]My Manila fav asked me for some money around Christmas so she could get a ticket to visit her family. Afterwards she thanked me and said she had a wonderful trip.
Of course when I visited her last month she went into great details about how much she missed her family as she has not seen them for several years now. I didn't even bother calling her on it because I pretty much knew the Christmas story was bogus when I sent the gift in the first place.
It is very easy to tell when a Filipina is lying. Her lips will be moving :-)
[QUOTE=Irony Monger; 1158444]My Manila fav asked me for some money around Christmas so she could get a ticket to visit her family. Afterwards she thanked me and said she had a wonderful trip.
Of course when I visited her last month she went into great details about how much she missed her family as she has not seen them for several years now. I didn't even bother calling her on it because I pretty much knew the Christmas story was bogus when I sent the gift in the first place.
It is very easy to tell when a Filipina is lying. Her lips will be moving.[/QUOTE]Although I guess we also tend to to tell untruths just a bit.
Yesterday I was with a lady and walking around we stopped in a hotel.
After the deed she said " have you been here before " I said no I just saw it when we were walking. She said " Oh, but we walked past 3 other hotels before we got to exactly this one.". Ho hum um er. She was probably thinking "gotcha! '
[QUOTE=Irony Monger; 1158444]My Manila fav asked me for some money around Christmas so she could get a ticket to visit her family. Afterwards she thanked me and said she had a wonderful trip.
Of course when I visited her last month she went into great details about how much she missed her family as she has not seen them for several years now. I didn't even bother calling her on it because I pretty much knew the Christmas story was bogus when I sent the gift in the first place.
It is very easy to tell when a Filipina is lying. Her lips will be moving. [/QUOTE]The trick is do not promise or send anything before you meet. If you meet and the relationship including sex is good, you can think about supporting her. I have done that 3 times. All three girls I supoported graduated and got jobs. One got a nice job in Dubai. The tuition especially in community colleges are cheap. 5000 pesos a month will take care of everytrhing for the girl if she lives in provinces. In cities it will be double that.
Just be aware that just because you are supporting her she will not date or have sex with somebody or try to find other foreign sponsors. Even if the girls do it they will never admit to you. Only one of my girls told me that one night she went out with another friend to the bar and got drunk and had sex with a local guy.
I do not worry about those things. As long as I get what I want when I am in PHi and with her I am happy.
Moneywise I consider as donation.
Besides it costs more money if you are takin g a girl out of the bar every night not knowing if the service will be there or catching any germs.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1158472]The trick is do not promise or send anything before you meet.[/QUOTE]I follow the same rule. With a slight modification. I don't send money to anyone I haven't f*cked (actually that's Dragon Slayer's rule, but I have no problem adopting it as my own. It serves me well). In my post I should have said, "when I visited her again...". Anyway, I have no illusions about the girl, and I certainly plan to continue seeing her when I am in town...she may not lie well but she certainly lays well ;)
[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1158558]I follow the same rule. With a slight modification. I don't send money to anyone I haven't f*cked (actually that's Dragon Slayer's rule, but I have no problem adopting it as my own. It serves me well). In my post I should have said, "when I visited her again...". Anyway, I have no illusions about the girl, and I certainly plan to continue seeing her when I am in town...she may not lie well but she certainly lays well ;)[/QUOTE]The girl that lays well makes the man pay well.
[QUOTE=Irony Monger; 1158444]My Manila fav asked me for some money around Christmas so she could get a ticket to visit her family. Afterwards she thanked me and said she had a wonderful trip.
Of course when I visited her last month she went into great details about how much she missed her family as she has not seen them for several years now. I didn't even bother calling her on it because I pretty much knew the Christmas story was bogus when I sent the gift in the first place.
It is very easy to tell when a Filipina is lying. Her lips will be moving. [/QUOTE]How do you tell when a monger is lying? Recently a mixed race Filipina told me about her experience using a popular dating site. She was looking for a boyfriend instead she found a monger. She met him in Manila where he took her to his hotel, made her suck his dick and take it in all holes promising her the world all the while. No sooner than she hopped on a bus with a sore ass to ride back to the province the undercover monger took off to Cebu to continue rooting other girls and not back to the States as he told her. When she confronted him on it he told her that he needed to make an unplanned trip to Cebu because he was buying a 7-Eleven and needed to meet with his business partners. It was the monger's version of the sick caribou lie and she didn't buy it. The experience really fucked up her mind. She was thinking that the guy didn't take her seriously because she was mixed race or maybe she did something wrong that he never mentioned to her. I knew it was a freebie monger carrying out a hit and run but I didn't want to tell her that. How could I tell her that mongers hunt on the dating sites and that she was just another fuck point to the guy she thought was her boyfriend? In a game of shared lips, dicks and pussies there will be lies on all sides.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1158887]How do you tell when a monger is lying? Recently a mixed race Filipina told me about her experience using a popular dating site. She was looking for a boyfriend instead she found a monger. She met him in Manila where he took her to his hotel, made her suck his dick and take it in all holes promising her the world all the while. No sooner than she hopped on a bus with a sore ass to ride back to the province the undercover monger took off to Cebu to continue rooting other girls and not back to the States as he told her. When she confronted him on it he told her that he needed to make an unplanned trip to Cebu because he was buying a 7-Eleven and needed to meet with his business partners. It was the monger's version of the sick caribou lie and she didn't buy it. The experience really fucked up her mind. She was thinking that the guy didn't take her seriously because she was mixed race or maybe she did something wrong that he never mentioned to her. I knew it was a freebie monger carrying out a hit and run but I didn't want to tell her that. How could I tell her that mongers hunt on the dating sites and that she was just another fuck point to the guy she thought was her boyfriend? In a game of shared lips, dicks and pussies there will be lies on all sides.[/QUOTE]True, there is plenty of lying happening on both sides. Personally, after being put in some uncomfortable situations by some stretching of the truth myself, I now try to be as up front as possible. I promise nothing extravagant, make it clear that I see other people and am not looking to get married, just having fun, etc. I just find it humorous that even when I do this the girls still find it necessary to lie about their needs. I would have had no problem at all if the girl in question just said,"Hey, can you send me a little money for Christmas". And to tell the truth I have no problem that she made up a story and forgot about it later either, I just find it amusing. Sorry if my comment about lying sounded judgmental, it was not meant to be so.
[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1158911]True, there is plenty of lying happening on both sides. Personally, after being put in some uncomfortable situations by some stretching of the truth myself, I now try to be as up front as possible. I promise nothing extravagant, make it clear that I see other people and am not looking to get married, just having fun, etc. I just find it humorous that even when I do this the girls still find it necessary to lie about their needs. I would have had no problem at all if the girl in question just said,"Hey, can you send me a little money for Christmas". And to tell the truth I have no problem that she made up a story and forgot about it later either, I just find it amusing. Sorry if my comment about lying sounded judgmental, it was not meant to be so.[/QUOTE]Look, if former President Clinton could be "legally accurate," why can't a monger? Back in my mongering days, before I married "the one," I didn't feel it necessary to tell a girl that I was just looking for some pussy, but I didn't exactly lie either. I simply said that I could not make any promises, but if we fall in love, then "who knows?"
Of course, most girls would read my "who knows?" statement to mean that if they really put on the fireworks, then they might be "the one" who wins my heart and marries. Thus, I accepted the benefits of being a potential "boyfriend" without making any express commitments.
Was I being dishonest? Well, as I said in previous posts, it turns out that my statement to all those fucklets was on the level, because one of them finally did steal my heart, and I married her.
RG
[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1158937]Look, if former President Clinton could be "legally accurate," why can't a monger? Back in my mongering days, before I married "the one," I didn't feel it necessary to tell a girl that I was just looking for some pussy, but I didn't exactly lie either. I simply said that I could not make any promises, but if we fall in love, then "who knows?"
Of course, most girls would read my "who knows?" statement to mean that if they really put on the fireworks, then they might be "the one" who wins my heart and marries. Thus, I accepted the benefits of being a potential "boyfriend" without making any express commitments.
Was I being dishonest? Well, as I said in previous posts, it turns out that my statement to all those fucklets was on the level, because one of them finally did steal my heart, and I married her.
RG[/QUOTE]Whilst I might fudge a few details here and there one thing I'm always honest about is being married. It works like a charm because it seems to establish to girls that I'm a truthful guy.
Something fundamentally wrong when a girl your about to jump into bed with thinks the world of you because you just established thats she's going to be one time lay, but the world has many such mysteries. I think if I wasnt married I would probabyl wear a ring and pretend I was. Its THAT successful.
[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1158911]True, there is plenty of lying happening on both sides. Personally, after being put in some uncomfortable situations by some stretching of the truth myself, I now try to be as up front as possible. I promise nothing extravagant, make it clear that I see other people and am not looking to get married, just having fun, etc. I just find it humorous that even when I do this the girls still find it necessary to lie about their needs. I would have had no problem at all if the girl in question just said,"Hey, can you send me a little money for Christmas". And to tell the truth I have no problem that she made up a story and forgot about it later either, I just find it amusing. Sorry if my comment about lying sounded judgmental, it was not meant to be so.[/QUOTE]I also take an Honesty is the Best Policy approach. I think this ends up losing 75% of the girls I initially contact who say they are looking for a serious guy etc etc but it means things are much simpler and more straightforward when someone is interested. In particular I usually have 1 or 2 girls hanging around my place so girls who come back have to get used to 3 somes etc which would be difficult if I had spun a story about looking for a wife.
[QUOTE=X Man;1158404]I sometimes overlook the generalizations people make from their limited experiences because it is, after all, human nature. But when I see something that has gone beyond generalization, beyond stereotype, and has firmly found roots in hysteric racism. I have to comment. The post below is beyond contempt. Proudly posted by X Man.[/QUOTE
"I think the brains of Homo Sapiens are designed with a kill switch internally any time that conversation or thoughts become relevant. If they try to think seriously about anything ala Harrison Bergeron, their minds become anxious and disturbed until they stop doing that."
This aptly describes you X Man!
[QUOTE=Frank4220; 1159254]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1158404]I sometimes overlook the generalizations people make from their limited experiences because it is, after all, human nature. But when I see something that has gone beyond generalization, beyond stereotype, and has firmly found roots in hysteric racism. I have to comment. The post below is beyond contempt. Proudly posted by X Man. [/QUOTE.
"I think the brains of Homo Sapiens are designed with a kill switch internally any time that conversation or thoughts become relevant. If they try to think seriously about anything ala Harrison Bergeron, their minds become anxious and disturbed until they stop doing that."
This aptly describes you X Man! [/QUOTE]Far be it for me to agree with X Man on some stuff but he was spot on with his remarks.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1159028]Whilst I might fudge a few details here and there one thing I'm always honest about is being married. It works like a charm because it seems to establish to girls that I'm a truthful guy.
Something fundamentally wrong when a girl your about to jump into bed with thinks the world of you because you just established thats she's going to be one time lay, but the world has many such mysteries. I think if I wasnt married I would probabyl wear a ring and pretend I was. Its THAT successful. [/QUOTE]FF got it exactly right. When you have spent as much time here as FF and I have, you realise that the girls really get turned on by guys telling them what seems to be "the truth".
If you think it sounds far-fetched, try it. GL agrees too.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1159028]I think if I wasnt married I would probabyl wear a ring and pretend I was. Its THAT successful.[/QUOTE]I used to do that when I was in the Navy. Worked like a charm.
what do you suppose it means when a girl writes in her profile "i'm an open-minded girl".
- takes it up the pooper?
- three-way with her sister no problemo?
- she's a bakla and hopes you don't mind?
- no marriage? no worry!
(ah! shift-enter gives you a line break. wish the "bro's" on the malaysian board would learn that)
[QUOTE=Jambo;1159499]What do you suppose it means when a girl writes in her profile "I'm an open-minded girl".[/QUOTE]It usually means that they copied it off someone else's profile and have no idea what it means.
An alternative meaning is that her mind is so open that everything inside falls out very easily.
Seriously. Never read very much into anything that appears on profiles on dating sites. If you read back through the past 6 months on this thread you will pick up all manner of weird and wonderful examples.
My best example was the girl who sent back a raunchy reply after I had sent her a very tame first contact message. When I queried her reply because it was indicating something completely opposite to what was in her profile she said "Oh don't believe that. It was written for my cousin but now I am using her name and profile for myself".
WTF.
[quote=jambo; 1159499]what do you suppose it means when a girl writes in her profile "i'm an open-minded girl".
- takes it up the pooper?
- three-way with her sister no problemo?
- she's a bakla and hopes you don't mind?
- no marriage? no worry!
(ah! shift-enter gives you a line break. wish the "bro's" on the malaysian board would learn that) [/quote]it usually means she is a bakla and hopes you will take it in the pooper.
[quote=chocha monger;1159541]it usually means she is a bakla and hopes you will take it in the pooper.[/quote]hehe not funny!
Planning my 8th trip to Philippines for 15 days to start last week in June. Thought I would share my modus operandi. I seem to have settled into a routine for these trips and it works just fine for me.
I usually spend the first 2 or 3 days in Makati, then head for Cebu which I use as a base. In the past I have detoured out of Cebu to see a bit more of what the Philippines has to offer. Davao, CDO, Butuan, Ormoc, Dumaguete, Boracay, Bohol to name a few.
My basic itinery is 3 days in Makati. 2 at the beginning of my trip and one at the end. Then to Cebu for the remaining duration with a side trip planned this time to Bantayan with my gf. I have been with the same gf for the past 5 trips and she lives in Talisay. The basic idea is to have some fun for the first 7 days with various girls, and then meet up with my gf for the remainder of the trip with one last night of fun in Makati.
I source the majority of the girls I see via DIA, but have in the past used other dating sites like Cherry Blossom. In DIA I have a very simple profile with no picture. I make it perfectly clear that I am not looking to get married and that I am in the Philippines on a business trip for a short duration and would like to meet open minded ladies. I also state that I would email my pic. The headline states that I will be arriving in the Philippines in June.
I have also created a spurious facebook account which has assorted details and I use this judiciously to maintain contact with various girls. I have secured dates from this account as well.
Six weeks before I leave I will periodically log into DIA and browse profiles which might imply that the girl is up for fun. 90% of the time the initial contact will be instigated by the girl. I always confirm through DIA communication that basically I am looking for fun and not a serious relationship. As very few girls read profiles I do get quite a few knock backs, but as DIA is a numbers game I also secure numerous dates. As yet I have only had one no show in girls I have arranged to meet. I always ask for their cell number.
Even if I am contacted by a fugly girl in DIA I will always respond. The reason being is that I will eventually ask them if they have a friend who may be up for some fun. I met a girl 2 trips ago (Diane) who now pimps her friends as well as giving out herself. The first time I met her I had her as part of a threesome in the day then fucked her much more attractive younger sister in the evening. The last trip she arranged a threesome with 18 and 19 year old half sisters. This trip she has arranged another 2 of her friends to meet me. I give her 200 pesos 'commission' per girl and her friends are promised 1000 pesos each.
By the time I am ready for my trip I will have an extensive list of girls to visit which will provide sufficient contingencies.
Although I do not leave for another 4 weeks I already have my basic itinery:
Day 1 and 2: Makati, City Garden Hotel located on Makati Avenue and 5 minutes walk from Burgos Street. Being met at airport by Anna, a Cherry Blossom contact who will spend 2 days with me. Plan B if she does not show. Havana Cafe and or a bar in Burgos.
Day 3 and 4: Cebu, Waterfront Hotel, being met at airport by Bella, contact made through Tagged.
Day 5, 6 and 7 Alpa City Suites, Cebu. Arranged to meet various girls from: DIA contacts; friends of Diane; girls I have met previously. I plan to meet one girl in the early afternoon and another for the evening and these dates have already been tentatively arranged. I know that days 5, 6 and 7 will be flexible and will most likely change.
Day 8 to 14 Parklane Hotel, Cebu with gf. 4 day trip to Bantayan.
Day 15: Makati, City Garden Hotel, Anna
[QUOTE=Python75;1160054]Planning my 8th trip to Philippines for 15 days to start last week in June. Thought I would share my modus operandi. I seem to have settled into a routine for these trips and it works just fine for me.[/QUOTE]Seems like a full routine Python and very well-organised.
It might help some guys plan a similar itinerary.
However, I just feel a bit uneasy about you giving out so much detail about your plans on this site. There are some seriously strange guys who read this board and no doubt others who lurk here and follow the adventures of others.
Maybe I am being alarmist for no good reason but I always feel uncomfortable when I read about detailed plans even down to the girl's names and all. Maybe you are using false names (which would be good).
Lots of people have come undone through telegraphing their every movement on Facebook and this could be seen as another instance of this.
I am not being "critical" of your thorough planning. Just suggesting that you might have included a bit too much detail.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1160067]Seems like a full routine Python and very well-organised.
It might help some guys plan a similar itinerary.
However, I just feel a bit uneasy about you giving out so much detail about your plans on this site. There are some seriously strange guys who read this board and no doubt others who lurk here and follow the adventures of others. [/QUOTE]Point taken RK and I think it is a valid one. I should have mentioned that I have changed the girls names to protect their anonymity. The only mention of my planned trip on my spurious fb page says I am looking forward to visiting the Philippines in June. Admittedly used as a bait to arouse interest amongst my 'friends' there.
[QUOTE=Python75;1160069]Point taken RK and I think it is a valid one. I should have mentioned that I have changed the girls names to protect their anonymity. The only mention of my planned trip on my spurious fb page says I am looking forward to visiting the Philippines in June. Admittedly used as a bait to arouse interest amongst my 'friends' there.[/QUOTE]You're getting some sound advice here re: divulging too much info about your movements.
I had to learn the hard way. I once supplied too much info on this site, and RK snuck into my hotel room, wiped out my mini-bar and banged my barfine while I was in the shower. A thoroughly traumatizing experience.
(All jokes aside though, RK is dead-on with this.)
Python, the monger machine.
No, seriously your routine is like a disciplined version of my narcissistic chaos before one of my trips. I fire from all canons and have like 30-40 girls lined up for a ten days visit. It never works out as I plan anyway, but there is a lot of fun to have from just going along with the gone bad program. Seems like I always end up with a tight teenage beaver in my face anyway.
I do not have a picture in any of my profiles, and have to work quite a bit to get the knickers of the real gems, at least in dull Davao. The p4p introduction fails sooner or later in most cases, for me. Either the girls do not understand the offer or they did not read it. And some just says no thanks. Last trip to Davao I struck diamonds and gold however, and met some super sweet teens. One in particular made my day (s) with her sweet chilled out personality and her swollen Venus mountain. Big tits and one of those pussies that are optimized for doggy, I. E. The love hole looks right in your face when she takes "the positions that every woman should greet her man in when he comes back from a hard day at work".
DIA for Cebu girls was easier than Davao, and I sense that Manila and its "surroundings" is even easier.
CDO did not deliver at all for me. I tried DIA to get some CDO entertainment, and if it wasn't for the 3K bar girl I would have been left to play with my balls for pleasure.
Happy hunting, Python and all you other mongers.
I think I am "forced" to go back to Cebu and Davao already in July. Poor me, victim if circumstances.
Barba
[QUOTE=Driveallnight; 1163725]You're getting some sound advice here re: divulging too much info about your movements.
I had to learn the hard way. I once supplied too much info on this site, and RK snuck into my hotel room, wiped out my mini-bar and banged my barfine while I was in the shower. A thoroughly traumatizing experience.
(All jokes aside though, RK is dead-on with this.) [/QUOTE]
I didn't enjoy squishing around in your left overs while you took a shower. TG I gave DATY a miss LOL
Nice one D A Night. Good laugh.
[QUOTE=Barba; 1163835]Python, the monger machine.
CDO did not deliver at all for me. I tried DIA to get some CDO entertainment, and if it wasn't for the 3K bar girl I would have been left to play with my balls for pleasure.
Barba[/QUOTE]Barba I am surprised about your experience in CDO, quite the reverse has been true when I have visited. There is a plethora of girlie bars in CDO and apart from a few notable exceptions, many tend to be small, unsophisticated, raw and what some might describe as seedy in appearance. However they do offer some varied and talented girls now and again.
I have had success with DIA in CDO but most of the girls have travelled in from neighbouring towns and cities such as Dipolog and Iligan and some do (genuinely) need up front payment to travel.
I was last there in January and there also appears to be a thriving street scene (if that is your thing) in and around Divisoria.
I have also had some limited success at Limketkai and Gaisano shopping malls in CDO, with what seemed to be regular non-pro girls. Will be back there in another 5 weeks and will report my experience on the 'Other Areas' thread if anything interesting materialises!
Not sure if she wrote it herself but I quote from her page" I don't like sending dozens of pointless texts about whether you have eaten your lunch so am also careful about giving out my cell no unless I am convinced you are a sensible and responsible guy."
If you are looking for such a girl, she's to be found in Cebu, is a singer in a band and is under the name of SexyS. You have to fill in the four blanks. Can't hand everything to you hungry mongers on a plate. Might be worth the guesswork for some of you! Got a funny profile. And some hot pics to go with it.
Anyone have any advice on how I can check my sms messages on Globe service from outside the country?
Also, anyone have any advice on sending / receiving texts from Philippines outside the country?
I hate leaving, I hate being out of touch even more!
[QUOTE=Just Seven; 1164342]Anyone have any advice on how I can check my sms messages on Globe service from outside the country?
Also, anyone have any advice on sending / receiving texts from Philippines outside the country?
I hate leaving, I hate being out of touch even more! [/QUOTE]Before you leave, text "GROAM ON mm / dd / yyyy" to 2884. That will activate text roaming for up to 6 months. Need to maintain a balance of P100 to keep it active.
For sending texts from overseas I used to use skype as it would let me set my from address to my RP mobile number, making replies transparent, but have recently switched to textfish, as the rates are less than a third of what skype charges (EUR0. 02 / text to smart / sun, EUR0. 015 to globe) and reiability is better.
If you're a super-cheap-charlie use chikka.
I have written up a bunch of Philippines texting info at:
[url]http://pimobile.x10.mx/[/url]
Crap. Already left the country. Will have to do that when I touchdown the next time. Gives me another excuse to fly back sooner (like I needed one)
Just finished creating my PI Facebook profile, now to find some non naked fun party pictures to populate it with!
[QUOTE=Just Seven; 1164342]Anyone have any advice on how I can check my sms messages on Globe service from outside the country?
Also, anyone have any advice on sending / receiving texts from Philippines outside the country?
I hate leaving, I hate being out of touch even more![/QUOTE]They might remember you if were super bait to them. Then again they might not. LOL. Remember we are swimming in the same pool. Extra LOL
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1164248]Not sure if she wrote it herself but I quote from her page" I don't like sending dozens of pointless texts about whether you have eaten your lunch so am also careful about giving out my cell no unless I am convinced you are a sensible and responsible guy."
If you are looking for such a girl, she's to be found in Cebu, is a singer in a band and is under the name of SexyS. You have to fill in the four blanks. Can't hand everything to you hungry mongers on a plate. Might be worth the guesswork for some of you! Got a funny profile. And some hot pics to go with it. [/QUOTE]I just happened to see that profile earlier this week. I'm not naming it any more than FF did, why make it easy for you guys? Nice profile and nice picture. She does hint about your generosity, but it's still fun reading. I'd think about the challenge if I were there. Not every day you see a profile like that.
[QUOTE=Finrod;1164478]I just happened to see that profile earlier this week. I'm not naming it any more than FF did, why make it easy for you guys? Nice profile and nice picture. She does hint about your generosity, but it's still fun reading. I'd think about the challenge if I were there. Not every day you see a profile like that.[/QUOTE]Theres a few equally well written profiles, of other Cebu girls probably Greg London authored.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1164396]They might remember you if were super bait to them. Then again they might not. LOL. Remember we are swimming in the same pool. Extra LOL[/QUOTE]I only have eyes for one girl at the moment, and if you are swimming with her, you are a lucky man!
[QUOTE=Just Seven;1164632]I only have eyes for one girl at the moment, and if you are swimming with her, you are a lucky man![/QUOTE]I'm swimming with a whole team of them, especially this particular weekend. One gets out and another one jumps in. And thankfully the pool is damned large. Plenty of room for more.
Once upon a time we all only had eyes for one, and then amazingly we had eyes for another and another and another. You werent the one looking for eye surgery were you? LOL.
(A poster is looking for eye surgery on another Phils board)
[QUOTE=Finrod;1164478]I just happened to see that profile earlier this week. I'm not naming it any more than FF did, why make it easy for you guys? Nice profile and nice picture. She does hint about your generosity, but it's still fun reading. I'd think about the challenge if I were there. Not every day you see a profile like that.[/QUOTE]She is very high maintenance girl.
She is playing in DIA as though she doesn't have any other opportunities. I bet she is laughing at the range of clever messages she is getting all trying to sound as though they are "Mr Right".
Us Aussies call these girls "cock-teasers" although I don't think we have sole rights to such a descriptive term.
I will be interested to hear if anyone gets anywhere near her. Please post if you do, and give us the bad news along with the good.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1164652]She is very high maintenance girl.
She is playing in DIA as though she doesn't have any other opportunities. I bet she is laughing at the range of clever messages she is getting all trying to sound as though they are "Mr Right".
Us Aussies call these girls "cock-teasers" although I don't think we have sole rights to such a descriptive term.
I will be interested to hear if anyone gets anywhere near her. Please post if you do, and give us the bad news along with the good. [/QUOTE]I agree completely, RK. This girl is cleverly trying to steal the frame of her interactions with mongers.
Anyone who lets a girl shift the dynamic by getting you to qualify yourself (to a hooker, no less!) is a fool.
Men, do *not* bring your brainwashed Western mindset to SEA.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1164652]She is very high maintenance girl.
She is playing in DIA as though she doesn't have any other opportunities. I bet she is laughing at the range of clever messages she is getting all trying to sound as though they are "Mr Right".
Us Aussies call these girls "cock-teasers" although I don't think we have sole rights to such a descriptive term.
I will be interested to hear if anyone gets anywhere near her. Please post if you do, and give us the bad news along with the good.[/QUOTE]But at the end of the day, we all wouldn't mind a nice few hours with a nice slim girl before we throw her back in the pool, regardless of what words she uses. Thankfully she's too far away from me to want to have a go.
Well for me, I'm on the diving board ready to start 2 days of swimming with a 19 year old in 10 hours time.
Am just not sure whether I dress her up in the schoolie first, cover her in chocolate sauce first, or tie her up and tease her.
Am excited like a hyperactive kid whos run out of Ritalin.
[QUOTE=Python75; 1160054]Planning my 8th trip to Philippines for 15 days to start last week in June. Thought I would share my modus operandi. I seem to have settled into a routine for these trips and it works just fine for me.
I usually spend the first 2 or 3 days in Makati, then head for Cebu which I use as a base. In the past I have detoured out of Cebu to see a bit more of what the Philippines has to offer. Davao, CDO, Butuan, Ormoc, Dumaguete, Boracay, Bohol to name a few.
My basic itinery is 3 days in Makati. 2 at the beginning of my trip and one at the end. Then to Cebu for the remaining duration with a side trip planned this time to Bantayan with my gf. I have been with the same gf for the past 5 trips and she lives in Talisay. The basic idea is to have some fun for the first 7 days with various girls, and then meet up with my gf for the remainder of the trip with one last night of fun in Makati.
I source the majority of the girls I see via DIA, but have in the past used other dating sites like Cherry Blossom. In DIA I have a very simple profile with no picture. I make it perfectly clear that I am not looking to get married and that I am in the Philippines on a business trip for a short duration and would like to meet open minded ladies. I also state that I would email my pic. The headline states that I will be arriving in the Philippines in June.
I have also created a spurious facebook account which has assorted details and I use this judiciously to maintain contact with various girls. I have secured dates from this account as well.
Six weeks before I leave I will periodically log into DIA and browse profiles which might imply that the girl is up for fun. 90% of the time the initial contact will be instigated by the girl. I always confirm through DIA communication that basically I am looking for fun and not a serious relationship. As very few girls read profiles I do get quite a few knock backs, but as DIA is a numbers game I also secure numerous dates. As yet I have only had one no show in girls I have arranged to meet. I always ask for their cell number.
Even if I am contacted by a fugly girl in DIA I will always respond. The reason being is that I will eventually ask them if they have a friend who may be up for some fun. I met a girl 2 trips ago (Diane) who now pimps her friends as well as giving out herself. The first time I met her I had her as part of a threesome in the day then fucked her much more attractive younger sister in the evening. The last trip she arranged a threesome with 18 and 19 year old half sisters. This trip she has arranged another 2 of her friends to meet me. I give her 200 pesos 'commission' per girl and her friends are promised 1000 pesos each.
By the time I am ready for my trip I will have an extensive list of girls to visit which will provide sufficient contingencies.
Although I do not leave for another 4 weeks I already have my basic itinery:
Day 1 and 2: Makati, City Garden Hotel located on Makati Avenue and 5 minutes walk from Burgos Street. Being met at airport by Anna, a Cherry Blossom contact who will spend 2 days with me. Plan B if she does not show. Havana Cafe and or a bar in Burgos.
Day 3 and 4: Cebu, Waterfront Hotel, being met at airport by Bella, contact made through Tagged.
Day 5, 6 and 7 Alpa City Suites, Cebu. Arranged to meet various girls from: DIA contacts; friends of Diane; girls I have met previously. I plan to meet one girl in the early afternoon and another for the evening and these dates have already been tentatively arranged. I know that days 5, 6 and 7 will be flexible and will most likely change.
Day 8 to 14 Parklane Hotel, Cebu with gf. 4 day trip to Bantayan.
Day 15: Makati, City Garden Hotel, Anna[/QUOTE]You have really got it all sorted there. I alos find that freinds of previous contacts are good sources for contacts
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1164652]She is very high maintenance girl.
She is playing in DIA as though she doesn't have any other opportunities. I bet she is laughing at the range of clever messages she is getting all trying to sound as though they are "Mr Right".
Us Aussies call these girls "cock-teasers" although I don't think we have sole rights to such a descriptive term.
I will be interested to hear if anyone gets anywhere near her. Please post if you do, and give us the bad news along with the good.[/QUOTE]Actually I met this young lady last week on my first trip to Cebu. I liked her alot. She knows alot about music and and volunteered to sing a couple of numbers with the acoustic band who were playing in the restaurant I took her to. She's a competent singer but not the next Tina Turner! She told me she had lived with an American for about 6 months until fairly recently but they split up with nothing to show for it though she seems to have picked up some marketing skills. Seems to be targeting visiting biz guys willing to pay a premium rate but she's about as upfront about that as you can be on DIA without getting banned so more power to her. Speaking for myself I don't have the time or patience to mess around texting a bunch of chubby girls and lady boys hoping to find a diamond in the ruff so happy to pay a bit extra for a sexy girl with a clear profile and photo set who actually shows up and performs as agreed. Just my 2 cents. I don't believe in giving recommendations as everyone has different experiences with these girls.
Nope that aint me. But yeah, I have had eyes for many and when I no longer have eyes for her, I will surely have eyes for another. Wish I had eyes for another. She's hot and she knows it. Will surely keep looking, but 3 nights and all the bars on fields haven't turned up something I wanted more. So maybe 3 more nights will do the trick!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1164650]I'm swimming with a whole team of them, especially this particular weekend. One gets out and another one jumps in. And thankfully the pool is damned large. Plenty of room for more.
Once upon a time we all only had eyes for one, and then amazingly we had eyes for another and another and another. You werent the one looking for eye surgery were you? LOL.
(A poster is looking for eye surgery on another Phils board) [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1164077]Barba I am surprised about your experience in CDO, quite the reverse has been true when I have visited. There is a plethora of girlie bars in CDO and apart from a few notable exceptions, many tend to be small, unsophisticated, raw and what some might describe as seedy in appearance. However they do offer some varied and talented girls now and again.
I have had success with DIA in CDO but most of the girls have travelled in from neighbouring towns and cities such as Dipolog and Iligan and some do (genuinely) need up front payment to travel.
I was last there in January and there also appears to be a thriving street scene (if that is your thing) in and around Divisoria.
I have also had some limited success at Limketkai and Gaisano shopping malls in CDO, with what seemed to be regular non-pro girls. Will be back there in another 5 weeks and will report my experience on the 'Other Areas' thread if anything interesting materialises! [/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for these advice. I will mot likely have to go back, and then I will try harder. You and some other friends all tell me that there is some talent in CDO so I guess I was just unlucky with all my DIA appointments falling out. Mortman, do you also get quoted 3000-3500 in the bars? Quite steep IMHO.
What would you give to a pen pal or a mall girl? The usual 1000-2000 PHP?
/B
[QUOTE=Driveallnight; 1164694]I agree completely, RK. This girl is cleverly trying to steal the frame of her interactions with mongers.
Anyone who lets a girl shift the dynamic by getting you to qualify yourself (to a hooker, no less!) is a fool.
Men, do *not* bring your brainwashed Western mindset to SEA. [/QUOTE]AMEN! Well said!
B
[QUOTE=Barba; 1165315]Thanks a lot for these advice. I will mot likely have to go back, and then I will try harder. You and some other friends all tell me that there is some talent in CDO so I guess I was just unlucky with all my DIA appointments falling out. Mortman, do you also get quoted 3000-3500 in the bars? Quite steep IMHO.
What would you give to a pen pal or a mall girl? The usual 1000-2000 PHP?
B[/QUOTE]Barba,
Let's keep in mind that CDO is not Manila or Cebu, nor even similar to Davao as an urban centre.
Wages and general expectations are lower here. Far fewer foreigners to skew expectations and distort.
Financial recompenses. Chances are that pen pals and mall girls have had little or no personal contact.
With westerners. 500-800 pesos would be generous. That's the equivalent of 3-5 days wages for an average girl who did actually HAVE a job. Most would consider such a modest monetary reward favourably.
I enjoyed CDO because it was different and unusual and I was unusual as well.
I visited the bars and didn't find anything interesting, but using an Internet service (not DIA) I got a tour of poverty, with a poor girl, but she had religion so no go. I got a trip out to the so-called beach (it sucked) and then back to a room, and one hell of a last minute sexpolsion before she left, but she waived off the last day. The gal who claimed illness had a recovery and despite my unavailability on my way to the airport met me at that exact venue. Where I took her around to the side of the building, felt her up, kissed her, and left her.
She's now modeling in some damp island country in Europe.
[QUOTE=Questor 55; 1165851]Barba,
Let's keep in mind that CDO is not Manila or Cebu, nor even similar to Davao as an urban centre.
Wages and general expectations are lower here. Far fewer foreigners to skew expectations and distort.
Financial recompenses. Chances are that pen pals and mall girls have had little or no personal contact.
With westerners. 500-800 pesos would be generous. That's the equivalent of 3-5 days wages for an average girl who did actually HAVE a job. Most would consider such a modest monetary reward favourably. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Barba; 1165315]Thanks a lot for these advice. I will mot likely have to go back, and then I will try harder. You and some other friends all tell me that there is some talent in CDO so I guess I was just unlucky with all my DIA appointments falling out. Mortman, do you also get quoted 3000-3500 in the bars? Quite steep IMHO.
What would you give to a pen pal or a mall girl? The usual 1000-2000 PHP?
/B[/QUOTE]In Cebu, I was paying mall girls and DIA chatmates 500/1000 ST / LT. To pay more in CDO would be wrong.
[QUOTE=Questor 55; 1165851]Barba,
Let's keep in mind that CDO is not Manila or Cebu, nor even similar to Davao as an urban centre.
Wages and general expectations are lower here. Far fewer foreigners to skew expectations and distort.
Financial recompenses. Chances are that pen pals and mall girls have had little or no personal contact.
With westerners. 500-800 pesos would be generous. That's the equivalent of 3-5 days wages for an average girl who did actually HAVE a job. Most would consider such a modest monetary reward favourably. [/QUOTE]Yes. I already have an arm-length list of DIA chatmates in CDO from the last month (I'm only going to be there for 3 days) who happily agreed in advance to 500-700. One of my CDO chatmates is a cafe attendant, working 8 hours for p50 daily (no day off).500 is 10 days work in the cafe.
This just spotted from a young lady's DIA profile: "only a b****h like (me) can love a bastard like you!"
And then she takes a Filipina left turn and says "I'm simple but pretty! Long hair!" And on an equally tame note she tells us that she is looking for a "nice, friendly, cute and understanding" guy.
Ain't it just like a Filipina? One minute all tampo tampo and then the next minute she's soft and sweet with wet panties and all.
Raz
[QUOTE=Barba; 1165315]Thanks a lot for these advice. I will mot likely have to go back, and then I will try harder. You and some other friends all tell me that there is some talent in CDO so I guess I was just unlucky with all my DIA appointments falling out. Mortman, do you also get quoted 3000-3500 in the bars? Quite steep IMHO.
What would you give to a pen pal or a mall girl? The usual 1000-2000 PHP?
/B[/QUOTE]Barba.
I normally pay my DIA contacts and mall conquests 1000 whether short time or long time. If they stay long time then they will have the added bonus of a three nice meals per day, watching a movie, swimming or going dancing in the evening, whatever takes their fancy. I have read the other posts and know some of you may think this is too much for provincial girls and I don't want to reopen the very old and stale debates about what is the right and wrong amount to pay. To me it feels right and if they have travelled from one of the outlying towns (which seems to happen often in CDO) then I will reimburse their fare as well.
I agree that the girlie bars in CDO are very expensive even when compared to Cebu and I did some posts last year and the year before on the 'Other Areas' thread about my experiences with these places. The prices you were quoted were correct but I do remember a few years ago when the same bars quoted me 1500, so they have drastically increased their prices in the last three or four years. I just don't know why they are so expensive, there did not seem to be many Koreans in CDO, at least from what I could see and not really an abundance of foreigners either. In fact most of the bars were dominated with what appeared to be local men and I just don't know how they can sustain such inflated prices. If you use some of the less commercial bars then prices are much cheaper and although I seldom use bar girls I did get one real beauty for 1500 including bar fine and fee to the girl. It is not that I cannot afford to pay 3500, I won't pay on principle as I hate to think I am being overcharged or ripped off.
Last year I had to take a taxi from CDO to one of the outlying areas, I was trying to track down one of my old contacts who needed help. The taxi took me about 25 kilometers out of town where I left the meter running for 5 minutes as I made enquiries with a householder about the girl. When I got back in the taxi he said "new journey you have to pay extra" and reset the meter. We had a big argument in the cab and though it was 10pm at night, completely dark and in the middle of nowhere I paid what had been on the meter and got out of the cab rather than be ripped off. The driver was laughing as I got out thinking I was merely calling his bluff, but when he didn't back down I thought "fuck you" and left. As it happened I was able to get another taxi after a 20 minute walk and I felt happy and contented knowing the other driver had to travel 25 km back to town without a fare. I swear to god though, if I had been armed at the time, I would have happily shot him through the back of his head as he was laughing, without a seconds thought or an ounce of remorse.
Some of you guys may think I should have just paid and be done with, but I mentioned this anecdote just to highlight my utter dislike of anyone who deliberately tries to rip me off, whether it be for a handful of pesos or substantially more. So back to the point in question, many of the bars in CDO will try to rip you off with high prices but you can find cheaper bars. It also seems like a lot of the more commercial bars are operating a cartel, since I found most of them charged the same rate, which as I recollect was 3500 for take out.
I tend to stick to DIA contacts in CDO and regular girls that I meet in the street or in malls. I really recommend you guys to get off the well worn paths in CDO and spend some time just walking round some of the poor residential areas. You will be amazed at just how easy it is to strike up conversations with people (I mean girls) and two or three hours in the afternoon can easily yield a handful of cell phone numbers, whose owners will be more than keen to spend time with you. I like CDO because it lacks the commercial atmosphere of Cebu and provides a nice and refreshing contrast. It is (or seems to be) exteremely safe at any time of the day or night and I have spent many times walking around at two or three in the morning. I find the girls more approacable in CDO compared to Cebu but lets face it Cebu is not exactly difficult either. Even my own mother does not think I am the most handsome man in the world and I no longer have the advantage of youth on my side so if I can do it, it is possible for anyone.
[QUOTE=Mortman;1166472]Some of you guys may think I should have just paid and be done with, but I mentioned this anecdote just to highlight my utter dislike of anyone who deliberately tries to rip me off, whether it be for a handful of pesos or substantially more.[/QUOTE]No I am with you on that about taxi's. The biggest issue with me is they have the opportunity to put you in danger. You are kind of a prisoner in the cap as long as they are moving. And they can strand you in a bad place, as you could have been. They could deliberately drive you to bad people, fortunately I've not heard of this happening.
Because of that, their conduct should be impeccable, and we would reward that with a handsome tip. But, this is Philippines, right?
I agree that the pricing structure in CDO is somewhat of a mystery. The places aren't anything special, and there's nothing that would differentiate the services from any other city in the country. Maybe the payoffs to the politicians and cops are higher there, which would inflate the prices. There are few expats and I'm guessing fewer still locals who could afford or would be willing to pay the prices asked.
GE
[QUOTE=Mortman;1166472]I normally pay my DIA contacts and mall conquests 1000 whether short time or long time. If they stay long time then they will have the added bonus of a three nice meals per day, watching a movie, swimming or going dancing in the evening, whatever takes their fancy. I have read the other posts and know some of you may think this is too much for provincial girls and I don't want to reopen the very old and stale debates about what is the right and wrong amount to pay. To me it feels right and if they have travelled from one of the outlying towns (which seems to happen often in CDO) then I will reimburse their fare as well.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I was thinking recently of going to this kind of thing. Previously I've argued that 500 ST in the province is fine. Really it is, as I've had bunches of DIA girls in CDO agree to it recently (prior to my trip). I think I'm just going to hand them 1000, whether they stay few hours or overnight. In addition I always pay the girl's transport (reimburse).
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1167028]Interesting. I was thinking recently of going to this kind of thing. Previously I've argued that 500 ST in the province is fine. Really it is, as I've had bunches of DIA girls in CDO agree to it recently (prior to my trip). I think I'm just going to hand them 1000, whether they stay few hours or overnight. In addition I always pay the girl's transport (reimburse).[/QUOTE]It has become increasingly difficult to get decent quality girls in say Cebu interested in 500P for short time unless one puts alot of effort into it. I don't think its wise to encourage this level of inflation in the provinces where the girl's options are much more limited. I don't see why one needs to jump from 500P to 1000P what happened to 600P or 700P. In the provinces girls are queuing up to work at Chinese owned supermarkets fro 125P a day (way below minimum wage). In this context 1000P for a couple of hours seems to me too generous.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1167028]Interesting. I was thinking recently of going to this kind of thing. Previously I've argued that 500 ST in the province is fine. Really it is, as I've had bunches of DIA girls in CDO agree to it recently (prior to my trip). I think I'm just going to hand them 1000, whether they stay few hours or overnight. In addition I always pay the girl's transport (reimburse).[/QUOTE]What is a goodway to offer them money? Do just use code words like Gifts or Shopping? Or do just state the price you will pay and then let the girl take it from there.
Is there an easy way to spot the students who need cash?
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1167031]. . . . . . . . In the provinces girls are queuing up to work at Chinese owned supermarkets fro 125P a day (way below minimum wage). In this context 1000P for a couple of hours seems to me too generous.[/QUOTE]With all due respect Greg I think equating the working at any sort of menial task (including Chinese Supermarkets) with giving their bodies up to unknown foreigners to use and discard is not "fair".
I think it is noble of anyone to give a girl at least 1000 php for doing the deed. I have never given less than 1000 php for any girl with whom I have shagged. Surely they are entitled to some reward, especially when they do not enjoy the sex work but feel they have no other choice.
Now this is only my humble opinion.
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie; 1167085]What is a goodway to offer them money? Do just use code words like Gifts or Shopping? Or do just state the price you will pay and then let the girl take it from there.
Is there an easy way to spot the students who need cash? [/QUOTE]No it takes time. We call it fishing, trow out the lines and wait for a bite, look it in the eye, decide if you want to keep,
Wow, I really have mixed feelings about this.
I've heard Filipinos disparage girls saying that P4P is easy money, and I couldn't disagree more. It has to be hard work, both physically and emotionally.
But Greg London certainly has a point. In some locations. 1k is way too much, especially if you've gotten poor service.
And things get really complicated with the online gals who have such varied agendas.
X.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1167092]With all due respect Greg I think equating the working at any sort of menial task (including Chinese Supermarkets) with giving their bodies up to unknown foreigners to use and discard is not "fair".
I think it is noble of anyone to give a girl at least 1000 php for doing the deed. I have never given less than 1000 php for any girl with whom I have shagged. Surely they are entitled to some reward, especially when they do not enjoy the sex work but feel they have no other choice.
Now this is only my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1167092]With all due respect Greg I think equating the working at any sort of menial task (including Chinese Supermarkets) with giving their bodies up to unknown foreigners to use and discard is not "fair".
I think it is noble of anyone to give a girl at least 1000 php for doing the deed. I have never given less than 1000 php for any girl with whom I have shagged. Surely they are entitled to some reward, especially when they do not enjoy the sex work but feel they have no other choice.
Now this is only my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]Not surprising I guess, but I agree with RK. This is a country in which almost half the population lives on less than $2 a day, and the economic system, such as it is, provides so few jobs that any opening attracts dozens, if not hundreds of applicants. Is this a reason to bargain with sex workers so ensure that you pay the lowest possible cost, and in so doing help ensure that she can't possibly achieve even a slightly higher standard of living? It's astounding to me that guys will pay a couple of thousand dollars to come and stay here for a while, and then worry about paying a woman about $22 for sex. Does anyone who comes here really need the $5 or so difference between equitable and despicable that badly? If so, my advice would be to stay home and wait until you can afford to treat these women as human beings and not as low-cost sperm receptacles eagerly awaiting whatever pittance you can throw their way.
GE
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1167092]With all due respect Greg I think equating the working at any sort of menial task (including Chinese Supermarkets) with giving their bodies up to unknown foreigners to use and discard is not "fair".
I think it is noble of anyone to give a girl at least 1000 php for doing the deed. I have never given less than 1000 php for any girl with whom I have shagged. Surely they are entitled to some reward, especially when they do not enjoy the sex work but feel they have no other choice.
Now this is only my humble opinion. [/QUOTE]I'm a bit different. Not so noble. Its a service, nothing more. If the girl is not into me as a true lover, then its fair to equate what she's doing with any task, menial or not.
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1167031]It has become increasingly difficult to get decent quality girls in say Cebu interested in 500P for short time unless one puts alot of effort into it. I don't think its wise to encourage this level of inflation in the provinces where the girl's options are much more limited. I don't see why one needs to jump from 500P to 1000P what happened to 600P or 700P. In the provinces girls are queuing up to work at Chinese owned supermarkets fro 125P a day (way below minimum wage). In this context 1000P for a couple of hours seems to me too generous.[/QUOTE]Concur. But also wondering if we should be upping the minimum. Just thinking out loud.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1167120]Not surprising I guess, but I agree with RK. This is a country in which almost half the population lives on less than $2 a day, and the economic system, such as it is, provides so few jobs that any opening attracts dozens, if not hundreds of applicants. Is this a reason to bargain with sex workers so ensure that you pay the lowest possible cost, and in so doing help ensure that she can't possibly achieve even a slightly higher standard of living? It's astounding to me that guys will pay a couple of thousand dollars to come and stay here for a while, and then worry about paying a woman about $22 for sex. Does anyone who comes here really need the $5 or so difference between equitable and despicable that badly? If so, my advice would be to stay home and wait until you can afford to treat these women as human beings and not as low-cost sperm receptacles eagerly awaiting whatever pittance you can throw their way.
GE[/QUOTE]Disagree a bit. A kid on the street shines my shoes in phils for p50. That's the going rate. GE, by analogy, you are saying that because I am rich (not just by their standards, but our standard also) , I should give him 100, just to be noble? I'm not falling for that. Also the difference between $11 and $22 is considerable, as I have many many fun instances, often with more than one gal.
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1167031]I don't see why one needs to jump from 500P to 1000P what happened to 600P or 700P. In the provinces girls are queuing up to work at Chinese owned supermarkets fro 125P a day (way below minimum wage). In this context 1000P for a couple of hours seems to me too generous.[/QUOTE]GL.
For me there has been no inflation since I have always paid 1000 (at least the vast majority of the time anyway). I am happy with this amount, the girls are happy and it does not IMHO increase a girl's general expectation that everyone will pay the same. I have no problem with guys who pay less or indeed guys who pay more, it is a personal choice that we each make. Anyway I had a sneaking suspicion my original post might regenerate this age old discussion, which never seems to be reconcilled in favour of either camp. So long as we all treat the girls with respect, I think it is immaterial and inconsequential what we pay in financial terms, as individuals.
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1166472]Barba.
Many of the bars in CDO will try to rip you off with high prices but you can find cheaper bars. It also seems like a lot of the more commercial bars are operating a cartel, since I found most of them charged the same rate, which as I recollect was 3500 for take out.[/QUOTE]I could sense that there was variable prices since some of the girls would look clueless or quote me "2000, no I mean 3000. Babbelbabbelbabbel with some other bar girl. It is 3500". Or just ask the mamasan.
Thanks a lot for the advice. If I ever do get back, I will work less and walk more.
B
Even if some mongers pay ridiculous prices it will possible for others to get the same girls for half that amount. The fact is that these girls are dealing in a commodity that has an ever increasing supply that far exceeds demand. If a girl holds out for much higher than the local going rate there will be competitors ready to take her place in a matter of minutes. Bars in remote areas that quote high prices to foreigners are using a dual pricing system based on nationality.
Met this girl several years ago on Yahoo Messenger. Started off as routine chat until one day I got bored and told her I wanted to see her naked. She got mad, but a few days later send a pic sans clothes. Since then there has been regular chat sessions where I get her to do a strip-tease on cam, then have her lie down in bed and then she fingers herself until happy. She likes to take digital pics of herself also, I must have put her in 50 poses by now. Can't show her face, cause she may be a nurse near you very soon.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1167175]Disagree a bit. A kid on the street shines my shoes in phils for p50. That's the going rate. GE, by analogy, you are saying that because I am rich (not just by their standards, but our standard also) , I should give him 100, just to be noble? . . . . . . .[/QUOTE]I cannot speak for GE but if it was me and if I like the kid and his attitude; if he does a good job and he shows a sense of "get up and go" or true entrepreneurial spirit then I will have no hesitation in giving him 100 php (50 php for the task and a tip for his endeavour).
My haircut costs 200 php, and I always tip my cutter 50 php. I have been doing it for 10 years (same person) and the market has remained stable.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1167175]I'm a bit different. Not so noble. Its a service, nothing more. If the girl is not into me as a true lover, then its fair to equate what she's doing with any task, menial or not.
Concur. But also wondering if we should be upping the minimum. Just thinking out loud.
Disagree a bit. A kid on the street shines my shoes in phils for p50. That's the going rate. GE, by analogy, you are saying that because I am rich (not just by their standards, but our standard also) , I should give him 100, just to be noble? I'm not falling for that. Also the difference between $11 and $22 is considerable, as I have many many fun instances, often with more than one gal. [/QUOTE]No. I'm saying that if the going rate if Php50, then you shouldn't try to bargain the kid down to Php25 just because business is slow, some money is better than no money, and the kid will probably have to take it. I'm saying that if a girl quotes you Php1, 000, then that's her rate; you have the option of accepting it or walking away to look for a less expensive provider. I'm against "screwing" people (in the figurative sense) just because you're rich and because you can. I'm for being as fair and equitable as possible without being taken advantage of, and that's all I meant to say.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1167376]No. I'm saying that if the going rate if Php50, then you shouldn't try to bargain the kid down to Php25 just because business is slow, some money is better than no money, and the kid will probably have to take it. I'm saying that if a girl quotes you Php1, 000, then that's her rate; you have the option of accepting it or walking away to look for a less expensive provider. I'm against "screwing" people (in the figurative sense) just because you're rich and because you can. I'm for being as fair and equitable as possible without being taken advantage of, and that's all I meant to say.
GE[/QUOTE]Assume the p50 for the shoe-shine is the kano amount. The boy charges locals p25. I'm not shafting him by giving him p50.
I'm saying, when she says 1000, she's starting high, intending to dicker. If I respond with 300, and she then drops her price (any little bit) , she was not serious about the 1000 (in fact, she's trying to rip you off). There is a price, in her head, that she will settle for. That's the price I want. This isn't 'screwing' anyone. If she's willing to go for 500, then why did she say 1000? That would be her attempt at 'screwing' me?
If you buy a car at a dealership, you don't pay the asking price (say, $20k). The salesman, before hitting the car lot this morning, already knows the dealer's bottom line (say, $17k). From the dealer's $20K, you counter with 15k. You and the salesman end up somewhere closer to $17K and a deal is struck. By asking for $20k up front, the dealer is attempting to 'screw' you, yes? I don't want the dealer to have to take $16, 900. On the other hand, I don't want him walking off with $18k (who's money is it?) , either.
Most girls will go for much less (about half) than what they initially ask for. The difference between what she will go for and what she originally asked for is a 'scam' amount. Remember, she will ask local pinoy for much less than she asks from you.
I think this debate is probably endless and I guess largely pointless since no resolution is possible. I'll continue to act as I do since I think it's right for me, and others of course are free to do what feels right to them. If I have to dicker over price for these services then I'd rather not bother, and instead would just walk away. Haggling over sexual service is not, for me that same as buying a car, since I don't really care how the salesman treats me once we've made a deal. Also in the case of a car, we're arguing over hundreds or maybe thousands of dollars and not petty cash.
This is the last post I'm going to write on the subject since it's clear there are as many opinions as there are guys out there.
GE.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1167406]Assume the p50 for the shoe-shine is the kano amount. The boy charges locals p25. I'm not shafting him by giving him p50.
I'm saying, when she says 1000, she's starting high, intending to dicker. If I respond with 300, and she then drops her price (any little bit) , she was not serious about the 1000 (in fact, she's trying to rip you off). There is a price, in her head, that she will settle for. That's the price I want. This isn't 'screwing' anyone. If she's willing to go for 500, then why did she say 1000? That would be her attempt at 'screwing' me?
If you buy a car at a dealership, you don't pay the asking price (say, $20k). The salesman, before hitting the car lot this morning, already knows the dealer's bottom line (say, $17k). From the dealer's $20K, you counter with 15k. You and the salesman end up somewhere closer to $17K and a deal is struck. By asking for $20k up front, the dealer is attempting to 'screw' you, yes? I don't want the dealer to have to take $16, 900. On the other hand, I don't want him walking off with $18k (who's money is it?) , either.
Most girls will go for much less (about half) than what they initially ask for. The difference between what she will go for and what she originally asked for is a 'scam' amount. Remember, she will ask local pinoy for much less than she asks from you. [/QUOTE]
There is something weird about this discussion on prices.
Some or most of the participants in this discussion seem to think that they are being ripped off in some way if the price can be bargained down.
This is just not the case.
This is a country where almost every price is subject to negotiation. You are expected to haggle for most things. When my gf is with me, she bargains fro almost everything. And usually she will get at least 25% less.
The normal procedure, with foreigners, is that the vendor knows the real price. Say 60 pesos.
His opening price is double that. Now 120 pesos.
I counter by offering one third, reminding him that my children will starve if I pay his price.
He will reduce his price, maybe to 100. I will increase to 65, and so we will work toward the final price. We both know that the price is 60.
If I get him to 60, he will respect me. And sometimes vendors will shake my hand and congratulate me.
If you do not bargain, or you do not make a fair fist of it, he will look on you with distain.
But it is important that he saves face, so you must move the price so that he gets the last say.
And the girls are in the same situation.
The bar prices are fixed. And the barfine price is fixed. But if you are bargaining for a fl, then you should be prepared to bargain.
Of course, the girl will not have the same skills, nor the gall of the street vendor, so often she will not ask for double. So it is important that you have some knowledge of what the local prices are before you begin the purchasing process.
G
Most of the girls I see are DIA girls and I have never met one yet (unless she is a pro) ask me for money. The vast majority never ask and if you ask them how much they want, they will often reply "up to you"
Therefore as far as I am concerned there is no bargaining, no rip offs and no overpayment, I pay them what I feel is appropriate, which as you can see from my post that provoked all this discussion is 1000 long or short time, whether Cebu or a provincial girl from Mindanao.
As GE pointed out, this is a discussion that can never reach a natural conclusion because we all pay what we think is appropriate. I will stick to what amount I think is best is best for me and without intending to flame anyone here, nothing you can say will ever change my mind.
Anatolia from Lapu-Lapu has a nice, simple profile. She says of herself:
Hi. Nice to meet you.
Sexy.
Stunning.
Beautiful.
And of the type of man she would like to meet:
Rich.
At least there is no beating around the Bush with this one! LMAO. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie;1167085]What is a goodway to offer them money?[/QUOTE]"I will give you a thousand for taxi and for you to buy load and Internet café credit so you can keep in touch with me, ok?"
Four lies in one sentence. Will I go to hell now?
/B
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1167566]There is something weird about this discussion on prices.
Some or most of the participants in this discussion seem to think that they are being ripped off in some way if the price can be bargained down.
This is just not the case.
This is a country where almost every price is subject to negotiation. You are expected to haggle for most things. When my gf is with me, she bargains fro almost everything. And usually she will get at least 25% less.
The normal procedure, with foreigners, is that the vendor knows the real price. Say 60 pesos.
His opening price is double that. Now 120 pesos.
I counter by offering one third, reminding him that my children will starve if I pay his price.
He will reduce his price, maybe to 100. I will increase to 65, and so we will work toward the final price. We both know that the price is 60.
If I get him to 60, he will respect me. And sometimes vendors will shake my hand and congratulate me.
If you do not bargain, or you do not make a fair fist of it, he will look on you with distain.
But it is important that he saves face, so you must move the price so that he gets the last say.
And the girls are in the same situation.
The bar prices are fixed. And the barfine price is fixed. But if you are bargaining for a fl, then you should be prepared to bargain.
Of course, the girl will not have the same skills, nor the gall of the street vendor, so often she will not ask for double. So it is important that you have some knowledge of what the local prices are before you begin the purchasing process.
G[/QUOTE]Yes, I would agree that in most purchasing situations in PI the vendor would expect the customer to bargain, even if just to reduce the price a symbolic fraction. This commercial interaction kind of greases the wheels of social capital.
In fact, having lived in Makati a year and passing a good deal of time in the Burgos bars, I would say that although the drink prices are certainly fixed, the barfine prices can be somewhat negotiable-depending on the mama-san, the evening, and the savvy of the punter. My experience is that if I can establish a friendly, good humored rapport with the mama-san on a fairly slow evening, it is often possible to shave off up to the price of one LD from the BF. At any rate, it is always worth a try-providing the mood stays light and friendly.
Manta Ray
[QUOTE=Barba; 1167707]"I will give you a thousand for taxi and for you to buy load and Internet café credit so you can keep in touch with me, ok?"
Four lies in one sentence. Will I go to hell now?
/B[/QUOTE]If so, then I will be joining you.
I am used to lying to the girls, but I never make them promises (such as marriage or helping with their sick parent)
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie;1167895]If so, then I will be joining you.[/QUOTE]Sweet! A buddy in hell.
Now we just need 72 virgins each and we will be amply entertained in eternity.
B
A filipina / o sent a mesage to me on DIA.
When I opened the profile, and read the profile message, this is what it said.
"sexy.
Hi I'm jazmine 18 year old I came from phillipens I'm interested of me I'm serios of me I'm loking of I'm student the talent is dancing and singing and For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.
I am a 24 year old shemale from cagayan de oro city, I love nature and beaches."
Well, which one is it?
Bemusing.
G
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1168098]A filipina / o sent a mesage to me on DIA.
When I opened the profile, and read the profile message, this is what it said.
"sexy.
Hi I'm jazmine 18 year old I came from phillipens I'm interested of me I'm serios of me I'm loking of I'm student the talent is dancing and singing and For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it.
I am a 24 year old shemale from cagayan de oro city, I love nature and beaches."
Well, which one is it?
Bemusing.
G[/QUOTE]That 6 year age difference in a few lines is very bemusing. Knowing your pre-dilection for mischief Gangles I just know you will send back an inquisitive note saying you like Jazmine if she is 18 but not the 24 yo shemale
Great post from Gangles and I agree that "rip off" is overused, and most bargains start at double the ending price. But the gem in this is that you should have an idea of the ending price. Some street venders selling ISG enhancement vitamins will start with a price more than a hundred times the going rate. These guys are hoping you are a complete idiot. I guess if they spend ten days asking a five hundred people, and one guy buys the stuff. They've made enough to justify the opening offer.
I personally dislike wasting valuable vacation time bargaining, but that's the way it is. X.
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1167566]There is something weird about this discussion on prices.
Some or most of the participants in this discussion seem to think that they are being ripped off in some way if the price can be bargained down.
This is just not the case.
This is a country where almost every price is subject to negotiation. You are expected to haggle for most things. When my gf is with me, she bargains fro almost everything. And usually she will get at least 25% less.
The normal procedure, with foreigners, is that the vendor knows the real price. Say 60 pesos.
His opening price is double that. Now 120 pesos.
I counter by offering one third, reminding him that my children will starve if I pay his price.
He will reduce his price, maybe to 100. I will increase to 65, and so we will work toward the final price. We both know that the price is 60.
If I get him to 60, he will respect me. And sometimes vendors will shake my hand and congratulate me.
If you do not bargain, or you do not make a fair fist of it, he will look on you with distain.
But it is important that he saves face, so you must move the price so that he gets the last say.
And the girls are in the same situation.
The bar prices are fixed. And the barfine price is fixed. But if you are bargaining for a fl, then you should be prepared to bargain.
Of course, the girl will not have the same skills, nor the gall of the street vendor, so often she will not ask for double. So it is important that you have some knowledge of what the local prices are before you begin the purchasing process.
G[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1167376]No. I'm saying that if the going rate if Php50, then you shouldn't try to bargain the kid down to Php25 just because business is slow, some money is better than no money, and the kid will probably have to take it. I'm saying that if a girl quotes you Php1, 000, then that's her rate; you have the option of accepting it or walking away to look for a less expensive provider. I'm against "screwing" people (in the figurative sense) just because you're rich and because you can. I'm for being as fair and equitable as possible without being taken advantage of, and that's all I meant to say.
GE[/QUOTE]Very well stated GE. I got lucky last week in Manila. I was in the mall and I got picked up by a great girl. After two lunches she went to my hotel and she told me the reason why she came over to meet me in the mall was my attitude (laughing and joking with the mall staff). Lying in bed talking she told me that if I had mentioned money she would have never went to the hotel.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]153045[/ATTACH]
Muscular legs. Perhaps Negros girl? Maybe from a mountain area? Thanks for the pic. X.
[QUOTE=Samar Dog;1167365]Met this girl several years ago on Yahoo Messenger. Started off as routine chat until one day I got bored and told her I wanted to see her naked. She got mad, but a few days later send a pic sans clothes. Since then there has been regular chat sessions where I get her to do a strip-tease on cam, then have her lie down in bed and then she fingers herself until happy. She likes to take digital pics of herself also, I must have put her in 50 poses by now. Can't show her face, cause she may be a nurse near you very soon.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1169014]Very well stated GE. I got lucky last week in Manila. I was in the mall and I got picked up by a great girl. After two lunches she went to my hotel and she told me the reason why she came over to meet me in the mall was my attitude (laughing and joking with the mall staff). Lying in bed talking she told me that if I had mentioned money she would have never went to the hotel.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]153045[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Well done! I'm going to have to turn my prayer rug so it faces toward your hotel room. :)
What a lovely bod! And I'm stuck in the US this summer.
Today, I was talking to a girl. 18yrs from the province who is working as a Internet cafe attendance working 17 hrs every day, well anyway she told she was taken, she has a foreign bf who was coming to marry her, make her kid and get her thru school. That she decided to give him her virginity.
Well anyways we get talking to her, I convinced her to let me teach her how to get her body excited so I won't hurt when she cock in her tight virgin pussy.
Then so VERY rude monger call her, that he was in Davao and he has gift for her. She asked my opinion, so I chatted with her about him, but before I could said, sure go with him, the rude monger send her a text (I guess he was impatient) , with f*k you. So I told her that is beter she not go, because he wanted only to insert her and take her virg.
This got her to trust me, so we agreed that I will teach her how to do get excited over the phone so she can do with bf :P.
Well I call her later so we got thru the training, as as I said before, got her to brake her virginity. ' The day before yesterday I got another also. :P.
Sorry the fellow monger that was coming to get her, she is not longer virgin.
Thank you rude monger, make it easy for me to score over the phone.
She did make pain noise when she inserted her 2 fingers, but she was happy she can now enjoy cock inside without hurting next time. I guess part of my public service to fellow mongers, pussy opener :P.
I also got an unemployed college graduated on cam after 2 talk sessions, very pretty and funny.
Will enjoy her for the rest of the summer.
I do want to say thank you to all rude mongers, you REALLY make my life easy when flipping these girls, You just have to respectful and kind and they will open your legs for you in no time. :P.
PVC
[QUOTE=Member #1088; 1169960]Today, I was talking to a girl. 18yrs from the province who is working as a Internet cafe attendance working 17 hrs every day,
SNIP. Blaaa blaaa blaaa blaaa.
:P.
PVC[/QUOTE]You remind me of the dumb ass's who walk into a bar and gets all angry because someone else is buying a lady's drink for the girl you want to barfine.
Your an idiot. Do you really believe it will now be less painful when some guy puts his big cock inside her?
Sounds to me all you wanted was telephone sex. Fukking Idiot.
- Your a wanker <-
[QUOTE=Member #1088; 1169960]Today, I was talking to a girl. 18yrs from the province who is working as a Internet cafe attendance working 17 hrs every day, well anyway she told she was taken, she has a foreign bf who was coming to marry her, make her kid and get her thru school. That she decided to give him her virginity.
Well anyways we get talking to her, I convinced her to let me teach her how to get her body excited so I won't hurt when she cock in her tight virgin pussy.
Then so VERY rude monger call her, that he was in Davao and he has gift for her. She asked my opinion, so I chatted with her about him, but before I could said, sure go with him, the rude monger send her a text (I guess he was impatient) , with f*k you. So I told her that is beter she not go, because he wanted only to insert her and take her virg.
This got her to trust me, so we agreed that I will teach her how to do get excited over the phone so she can do with bf :P.
Well I call her later so we got thru the training, as as I said before, got her to brake her virginity. ' The day before yesterday I got another also. :P.
Sorry the fellow monger that was coming to get her, she is not longer virgin.
Thank you rude monger, make it easy for me to score over the phone.
She did make pain noise when she inserted her 2 fingers, but she was happy she can now enjoy cock inside without hurting next time. I guess part of my public service to fellow mongers, pussy opener :P.
I also got an unemployed college graduated on cam after 2 talk sessions, very pretty and funny.
Will enjoy her for the rest of the summer.
I do want to say thank you to all rude mongers, you REALLY make my life easy when flipping these girls, You just have to respectful and kind and they will open your legs for you in no time. :P.
PVC[/QUOTE]Just a thought oh Great One. Why not actually go to Philippines and ACTUALLY do them in person. Where's the fun in telling a girl " ok honey now put your fingers in your pussy, now insert it deeply " etc. Maybe its a turn on for you. But sounds really lame to me.
[QUOTE=Member #1088; 1169960]Today, I was talking to a girl. 18yrs from the province who is working as a Internet cafe attendance working 17 hrs every day, well anyway she told she was taken, she has a foreign bf who was coming to marry her, make her kid and get her thru school. That she decided to give him her virginity...................zzzzzzzzzzz
PVC[/QUOTE]Ha ha clearly a sad and frustrated armchair monger who has probably never even been to the Philippines but lurks on DIA and this board jerking off in his armchair. AND one other thing, what medical text books do you read? For your information the insertion of a girl's fingers inside her pussy does not constitute the loss of virginity. How can you sit there gloating over the fact that you have somehow (in your own mind only) had one over on another monger simply because you got a girl to insert her fingers inside her pussy.........................for God's sake get a life you sad sorry individual!
Not hard to visualize Member #1088 jerking away with his phone in one hand and weaner in his other. On the other side an "innocent" pinay finger fucking herself dreaming it was member Member #1088 shaft, and not just her fingers. Yea right. I can see how this on some primitive level gives some sort of temporarily satisfaction to a needing body. So close to spreading your DNA. Yet so incredibly far away still.
I think you are being had by these girls. And for me you come across as a sad person, if you feel that you need to "beat" a stranger monger like this. When you write "thank you" in the context you do, you are signaling that you think there is a competition for these girls and that you somehow won. You need to think a bit on what really is good for you. Your ego has control over your self, and it makes you look like a fool. The ego is a big irrational child. The longer you live according to your primitive ego's absurd and erratic suggestions, the harder it will be to step away and just look at it and not live by it. We all have one, we all just do not let it dictate our lives. There is no competition between you and this fantasy "rude monger in Davao". It is all in your head. If he exists, which I doubt, there is a great chance he outgrew his little ego and does not give a rats ass about you or where this girl had her fingers.
I see no harm in getting sexual kicks from your fantasy. The mind is our biggest sexual organ. But I think your on a slipping slope when you try to give your fantasy some kind of reality points, by imagining that you are in Davao in person,"winning" over your fantasy competitors. Just enjoy the games you play with these girls. They are most likely not who they claim to be, and their agenda is most likely to make you the head honcho (I. E. Main provider) anyway, so fear no competition for neither rude or unrude mongers. .
Should you actually be a guy who, in two days, managed to talk two real virgins into taking their own cherry over the phone, with no promises or strings attached, I think you have been part of a truly historical event in this Catholic, trade oriented country.
All the best!
B
For you guys that like the big susu girls, here is one I saw on DIA:
[url]http://fdca.dateinasia.com/Members/Photos/1801216_634355753450000000.jpg[/url]
And her profile at [url]http://www.dateinasia.com/venusfajardo68.html[/url]
Enjoy!
HW
Fake boobs, wouldn't be surprised if this was a ladyboy.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1170378]For you guys that like the big susu girls, here is one I saw on DIA:
[url]http://fdca.dateinasia.com/Members/Photos/1801216_634355753450000000.jpg[/url]
And her profile at.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/venusfajardo68.html[/url]
Enjoy!
HW[/QUOTE][blue]===============================================
[b]Re: Posting TV/TS advisories[/b]
Greetings everyone,
I am aware that the vast majority of references to transvestites or transsexuals are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup transvestites or transsexuals, etc. However, past discussions in the Forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.
Please do not post information about or references to transvestites or transsexuals in the Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.
Jackson[/blue]
This lovely lady recently moved from Angeles City back to her province, Leyte. She could use a friend. She is very beautiful, sexy and intelligent. If you want her email message me.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1170502]Thanks, HW. Contacted her awhile back and am trying to set something up. You know how articulate most of these girls are.[/QUOTE]She is either a scam or TV 47 kg 5'4" is not a girl with big boobs. Those specs sound like a TV with a boob job.
Its a dude.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1170378]For you guys that like the big susu girls, here is one I saw on DIA:
[url]http://fdca.dateinasia.com/Members/Photos/1801216_634355753450000000.jpg[/url]
And her profile at.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/venusfajardo68.html[/url]
Enjoy!
HW[/QUOTE]
Here's one for the desperadoes who like the V's. If you can believe it.
Bit chubby too it seems.
Laarnie_26 (on DIA
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1171156]Here's one for the desperadoes who like the V's. If you can believe it.
Bit chubby too it seems.
Laarnie_26 (on DIA[/QUOTE]Rather you than me Sir!
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1171156]Here's one for the desperadoes who like the V's. If you can believe it.
Bit chubby too it seems.
Laarnie_26 (on DIA[/QUOTE]My eyes, I am blind. I can't see!
I hope I do not offend anyone but by god, Laarnie is far from my prototype cherry.
B
[QUOTE=D Cups;1171167]How do you know, FBA?[/QUOTE]From looking at the picture!
Has anyone had luck with trying to game chic's by sort of making fun of them and being playful? Alot of the reports here say to basically tuck your balls in and be a super nice guy. That doesn't work in the states, so is this totally different ball park?
[QUOTE=JerkMcGerk;1171249]Has anyone had luck with trying to game chic's by sort of making fun of them and being playful? Alot of the reports here say to basically tuck your balls in and be a super nice guy. That doesn't work in the states, so is this totally different ball park?[/QUOTE]I think you're referring to Pickup Artist David DeAngelo's "Cocky and Funny" method. The question is, does the Game as devised in the US and the UK (Mystery, Style, Gunwitch, etc.) work in the Philippines?
I would agree that the Nice Guy routine does not work, unless you intend to get married. Marriage is simply a proposition of,"I will give you all my money if you will marry me," and does not demand a whole lot of pickup skills. As a Nice Guy, though, I think your chances of being cheated on and dumped are greater, especially if you're dumb enough to bring your wife back to your home country.
There are dozens if not hundreds of posts on this board that reveal that although many if not most women claim to be looking for a Nice Guy, almost every single one will jump into bed with a man who is up front in offering sexual adventure and good times, right up to the point that her naive fiance shows up at the airport to marry her.
My belief is that game techniques will work in the PI. I have found, though, certain cultural specifics, such as drug or religion jokes are a big NO. If I can throw in a plug here, I have a book available at Amazon. Com,"Philippine Adventure: Travel and Seduction" in which I explain pickup techniques specific to the Philippines, such as using karaoke as a pickup vehicle.
I should also add that many pickup skills such as the ability to approach, the ability to read body language, an insistence on dating on your terms, a reluctance to supplicate (ex. try to buy women with drinks and gifts), a willingness to walk when you're disrespected, etc. will work in the PI, even if certain styles, such as Roissy's "Asshole Game" do not work in the Philippine culture.
Yes SergeantRay that is pretty much right on the money.
I am a younger man, so I am hoping that with an outgoing approach of light cockiness and a confident demeanor I will be able to pull hb's for free or low monetary value. But once again, gaming chics in USA / Uk I would imagine may be quite different. At the same time, women are women so I would think as long as I stayed out of religions / drugs I should be okay.
[QUOTE=Barba; 1171231]My eyes, I am blind. I can't see!
I hope I do not offend anyone but by god, Laarnie is far from my prototype cherry.
B[/QUOTE]Heyy guys I was only providing a "bird-dog" service. I never hinted that she was anything other than a V, and I did warn you about the "chubby" factor.
Definitely not my type either but I know there are "desperadoes" around who will jump at anything with an XX chromosome set.
[QUOTE=JerkMcGerk;1171249]Has anyone had luck with trying to game chic's by sort of making fun of them and being playful? Alot of the reports here say to basically tuck your balls in and be a super nice guy. That doesn't work in the states, so is this totally different ball park?[/QUOTE]Being The Nice Guy has worked wonders for me for past 20 years.
I even have two of my many current conquests call me Mr Sweetness. Tell them in advance you are married, tell them you are naughty, but show some Nice and the entrances to the various Heavenly Gates will open Abundance.
Oh and of way more importance is to be clean, wear neat clothes, shave well and most most most importantly smell nice!
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1171342]Definitely not my type either but I know there are "desperadoes" around who will jump at anything with an XX chromosome set.[/QUOTE]That'd be me! 18 to 80; blind, cripple, or crazy. I have no shame.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1171382]Really, Mr. E? Which feature (s)? I don't see it.[/QUOTE]Let's go with the broad shoulders, the elongated torso, the big head, the big hands, the long arms, and the fake boobs! And of course the tell tale sign: playing with the hair. It might not be a guy, but it definitely is not a female. D You have been around enough to know.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1171385]Let's go with the broad shoulders, the elongated torso, the big head, the big hands, the long arms, and the fake boobs! And of course the tell tale sign: playing with the hair. It might not be a guy, but it definitely is not a female. D You have been around enough to know.[/QUOTE]Enternational,
Maybe he wants to try his luck playing the Crying Game!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF59nPVCUsw&feature=related[/url]
JerkMcGerk, I recommend you use the confident, but playful method to get GFE, not to get discounts. Filipinas love to tease, so I hope you can take twice what you dish out!
And SergeantRay has voiced exactly what I thought when I read the Jerk post. DeAngelo!
DeAngelo's tips are interesting, but probably not for everyone. And although the tips may cross cultures, there is one tip you might want to throw out the window. That would be the one "don't appear desperate by give gals gifts". Filipinas will love little gifts, especially monetary gifts. This is probably because most of them have lived a life of poverty.
Using DeAngelo technique (playful teasing, turning the gender tables) , I might say to a bar girl,"I know you like me, pay my barfine." Yes, the gals will laugh and say "sure". Just like they did with the dozen guys before you who made the same joke.
Intersting post SR. And you too Jerk. X.
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1171282]I think you're referring to Pickup Artist David DeAngelo's "Cocky and Funny" method. The question is, does the Game as devised in the US and the UK (Mystery, Style, Gunwitch, etc.) work in the Philippines?
I would agree that the Nice Guy routine does not work, unless you intend to get married. Marriage is simply a proposition of,"I will give you all my money if you will marry me," and does not demand a whole lot of pickup skills. As a Nice Guy, though, I think your chances of being cheated on and dumped are greater, especially if you're dumb enough to bring your wife back to your home country.
Snip.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JerkMcGerk; 1171293]Yes SergeantRay that is pretty much right on the money.
I am a younger man, so I am hoping that with an outgoing approach of light cockiness and a confident demeanor I will be able to pull hb's for free or low monetary value. But once again, gaming chics in USA / Uk I would imagine may be quite different. At the same time, women are women so I would think as long as I stayed out of religions / drugs I should be okay.[/QUOTE]Why make life hard for your self, unless you look like a movie star just pay the price. I am 6'3" and look 30 and get told I look like Tim Robbins and follow these rules,
Rule 1 it all about money, you get what you pay for. If you want free sex expect to get dogs, the more you offer the better you will get. (I am happy to offer 1000)
Rule 2 be happy and enjoy it here. If you want to be serious you will be disappointed (things like acr card 2 weeks late)
Rule 3 do not show disrespect, cockiness, looking like a bum I will get you less girls.
Rule 4 do not be public about what you are after, or all you will get is lady boys as the girls are shy here, I hear girls say they are scared to meet a guy (if they only saw my police record)
DIA Razel Kulot says this about her smile,"it one of my asset". I think I know what the other two are after looking at her picture. X
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1171342]Definitely not my type either but I know there are "desperadoes" around who will jump at anything with an XX chromosome set.[/QUOTE]Been there, done that a few times.
A couple of years ago I was walking to MyHotel from Rizal, in Davao. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk and in one of those strange moods. Non of the worn females on the street interested me the slightest with their lame attempts to look sexy, and then suddenly I bumped into a 4 month pregnant girl in her mid 20:s, going in to a bar with a new bottle of Tanduay. Clearly intoxicated and quite far from my normal angels. I asked her if I could fuck her pregnant pussy for a 1000 PHP and her joy was limitless.
Once we had passed all the eyes in the lobby looking at me like "what the fuck are you doing with this one" I started to realize that this was a 4 month preggo, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk, dog breath skank, that was not even fit for working in the San Pedro bars. Anyone that have been to those bars (Silverstar, etc) , knows that it not exactly the Miss Davao selection process to get a ticket to the "stage". I managed to avoid her attempt for kissing and asked her to lay down on her back and pull upp her sweater and down her jeans so I could feel her tits, tummy and swollen pussy while cuming in her mouth. She smiled and agreed not to spill a single drop and swallow it all. Several times she tried to grab my dick and suck it, begging "let me suck it" and "fuck me now" but I was STD paranoia and could not see myself sticking anything in her. Dripping fanny and wiggling about all drunk pregnant and horny, and of course this made Barba the perv empty my load in her mouth within minutes. She swallowed like she promised and 2 min later she was out the door, on my request.
Not the most glorious moment of my days in Davao and absolutely totally not related to this thread, but still a memorable moment in it's own way. The cock does not have eyes fortunately.
B
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1171513]Rule 1 it all about money, you get what you pay for. If you want free sex expect to get dogs.[/QUOTE]You are so so so so wrong Frenzy. Act decent, communicate well, excercise your instinct, treat people well, be charming courteous and polite, give small unusual gifts and you are going to do way better than dogs. In past ten years I never had anything that barked or salivated in my bed.
I like the petite type. But if you like your watermelon big and juicy, check out asian_honey at DIA
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1171711]You are so so so so wrong Frenzy. Act decent, communicate well, excercise your instinct, treat people well, be charming courteous and polite, give small unusual gifts and you are going to do way better than dogs. In past ten years I never had anything that barked or salivated in my bed.[/QUOTE]If you live here you can get next to free sex, but the guy was visiting here expecting free, why spend $1000 flying here to waste time chasing free pussy when you can get better results by going to bars. I have gf 1 2 and it cost me less than going to bars but I live here. Yes you need to "Act decent, communicate well, excercise your instinct, treat people well, be charming courteous and polite," even if you are paying 4 pussy, or else they will not return.
Can you start reading the thread before you reply my post and quoting me out of context.
As for my "it is all about money" here, jealousy and money = gangster sums up this place. I love it here but I can see the faults. People born here are better off to leave. Us who a born elsewhere can enjoy it here as we made our money away from here.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1172667]If you live here you can get next to free sex, but the guy was visiting here expecting free, why spend $1000 flying here to waste time chasing free pussy when you can get better results by going to bars.[/QUOTE]I agree. I've bedded lots of free girls in PI, but the best looking chicks I fucked were the ones I payed for. Most of the free stuff out there is mediocre. My trips have been pretty short in duration, however, so maybe if I spent more time I'd land better lookers. I imagine getting off the beaten track could be better too.
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie; 1167085]What is a goodway to offer them money? Do just use code words like Gifts or Shopping? Or do just state the price you will pay and then let the girl take it from there.
Is there an easy way to spot the students who need cash?[/QUOTE]I'd like to know the answer to this also.
Is it cut and dry like "Hi, nice to meet you, let's fuck and I'll give you cash"? Or, do you befriend her and hint at financial incentives over several chats via internet or sms?
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1172800]I'd like to know the answer to this also.
Is it cut and dry like "Hi, nice to meet you, let's fuck and I'll give you cash"? Or, do you befriend her and hint at financial incentives over several chats via internet or sms?[/QUOTE]Are you talking about online? At a pickup bar like MBC? In a mall or restraunt? There are differing ways for all of these.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1172800]I'd like to know the answer to this also.
Is it cut and dry like "Hi, nice to meet you, let's fuck and I'll give you cash"? Or, do you befriend her and hint at financial incentives over several chats via internet or sms?[/QUOTE]I assume that the question is, how does one get from "Hi" on a DIA chat to,"meet me at my hotel when I arrive in Manila and have sex with me for money."
Now, I am not highly experienced in the Philippines scene, but, I have had the pleasure of bedding two DIA girls in the five nights that I spent last year in Makati City. I plan to return to Manila soon. Hence, I recently did my own "scientific study" of DIA girl behavior in Manila (I messaged several of the girls as if I were already in Makati City and invited them to my hotel room for the purposes of "taking sexy photos" for a fee. About half readily agreed. As I was in the USA, I could not follow through). I have also pm'd several members of the board for their techniques and had a few discussions that can be found on the board. Here is my advice for a technique that I think will work well:
1) message as many girls as you want to have sex with on DIA. Be certain your profile states that you are looking for fun, and that it has a nice photo of you (or a proxy photo) dressed in nice clothing. I am convinced that nice clothing makes things easier, but I may be wrong. I add to my profile,"please be aware that I am not looking for a wife". Ask them to meet you at your hotel for dinner, drinking, fun, spending the night partying, sexy photos or whatever suits your fancy. Be certain that part of the invitation is overtly sexual, but avoid pornographic language. For instance, I told one of my two girls that I wanted to "spend the entire night with you in bed enjoying your beauty" (she responded by telling me that she was looking forward to sleeping in a bed with a good mattress!). Expect about half of the girls that you invite to your hotel to agree to your invitation.
Be aware that the girls often arrive long after the stated time (one was two hours late). Be aware that sometimes they simply do not show at all and a "plan B" may be necessary (to me, this was a walk through Makati, which ended up EXTREMELY well). I called both of my girls on the phone and spoke with them, a tactic that I think is more likely to get a result than simply sending SMS.
2) When the girl arrives at your hotel, be courteous and respectful, but invite her to your room immediately for drinks, to take those pictures, to party, etc. You will find that one thing moves onto another like night follows day. Both of my DIA girls were horizontal within minutes. The only need to bring up money is if she brings it up first.
3) When you are finished having sex with her, or spending the evening with her, and she is ready to leave, offer her an amount equivalent to what a real pro would have earned. My research both in the Phils (which I do not know well) is concordant with what I have observed dozens of times in the Dominican Rep or Brazil, where I pick up internet dates all the time. Even though these girls are not prostitutes, they will expect roughly the same gratuity (by my reading, this is now 1000 short time. 1500- 2000 long time for independent girls in Manila. There is no need to through in a barfine here!). I never tell them it is payment; I always say it is a present so that they can get themselves something nice or I tell them it is taxi fare. If you decide to keep the girl for a few days, as I did for my second girl in Manila, you will need to pay her off with a bigger present, such as a cell phone or a camera.
Getting the DIA girl to leave was more challenging than getting her to go to bed with me. When my second girl decided to start camping in my hotel room, I must admit that I got concerned. She really thought I wanted her to be my girlfriend, and I will not make this mistake again.
I would be interested if serious Manila-experienced mongerers agree with this approach.
FYI, I am in my mid 50's, a little overweight, gray hair. Not exactly Brad Pitt, but it does not seem to matter in Manila.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1172919]I assume that the question is, how does one get from "Hi" on a DIA chat to,"meet me at my hotel when I arrive in Manila and have sex with me for money."
I messaged several of the girls as if I were already in Makati City and invited them to my hotel room for the purposes of "taking sexy photos" for a fee. About half readily agreed. As I was in the USA, I could not follow through[/QUOTE]See it is bullshit like this....
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1172800]I'd like to know the answer to this also.
Is it cut and dry like "Hi, nice to meet you, let's fuck and I'll give you cash"? Or, do you befriend her and hint at financial incentives over several chats via internet or sms?[/QUOTE]You guys are too obsessed with throwing money at people. If you want to do that then go to one of the local hooker holes. Why are you trying to give money to women from internet dating sites? Those women are free. You just meet and let nature take its course like you do with any other female on the planet. It is not rocket science.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1172919]I assume that the question is, how does one get from "Hi" on a DIA chat to,"meet me at my hotel when I arrive in Manila and have sex with me for money."
Now, I am not highly experienced in the Philippines scene, but, I have had the pleasure of bedding two DIA girls in the five nights that I spent last year in Makati City. I plan to return to Manila soon. Hence, I recently did my own "scientific study" of DIA girl behavior in Manila (I messaged several of the girls as if I were already in Makati City and invited them to my hotel room for the purposes of "taking sexy photos" for a fee. About half readily agreed. As I was in the USA, I could not follow through). I have also pm'd several members of the board for their techniques and had a few discussions that can be found on the board. Here is my advice for a technique that I think will work well:
1) message as many girls as you want to have sex with on DIA. Be certain your profile states that you are looking for fun, and that it has a nice photo of you (or a proxy photo) dressed in nice clothing. I am convinced that nice clothing makes things easier, but I may be wrong. I add to my profile,"please be aware that I am not looking for a wife". Ask them to meet you at your hotel for dinner, drinking, fun, spending the night partying, sexy photos or whatever suits your fancy. Be certain that part of the invitation is overtly sexual, but avoid pornographic language. For instance, I told one of my two girls that I wanted to "spend the entire night with you in bed enjoying your beauty" (she responded by telling me that she was looking forward to sleeping in a bed with a good mattress!). Expect about half of the girls that you invite to your hotel to agree to your invitation.
Be aware that the girls often arrive long after the stated time (one was two hours late). Be aware that sometimes they simply do not show at all and a "plan B" may be necessary (to me, this was a walk through Makati, which ended up EXTREMELY well). I called both of my girls on the phone and spoke with them, a tactic that I think is more likely to get a result than simply sending SMS.
2) When the girl arrives at your hotel, be courteous and respectful, but invite her to your room immediately for drinks, to take those pictures, to party, etc. You will find that one thing moves onto another like night follows day. Both of my DIA girls were horizontal within minutes. The only need to bring up money is if she brings it up first.
3) When you are finished having sex with her, or spending the evening with her, and she is ready to leave, offer her an amount equivalent to what a real pro would have earned. My research both in the Phils (which I do not know well) is concordant with what I have observed dozens of times in the Dominican Rep or Brazil, where I pick up internet dates all the time. Even though these girls are not prostitutes, they will expect roughly the same gratuity (by my reading, this is now 1000 short time. 1500- 2000 long time for independent girls in Manila. There is no need to through in a barfine here!). I never tell them it is payment; I always say it is a present so that they can get themselves something nice or I tell them it is taxi fare. If you decide to keep the girl for a few days, as I did for my second girl in Manila, you will need to pay her off with a bigger present, such as a cell phone or a camera.
Getting the DIA girl to leave was more challenging than getting her to go to bed with me. When my second girl decided to start camping in my hotel room, I must admit that I got concerned. She really thought I wanted her to be my girlfriend, and I will not make this mistake again.
I would be interested if serious Manila-experienced mongerers agree with this approach.
FYI, I am in my mid 50's, a little overweight, gray hair. Not exactly Brad Pitt, but it does not seem to matter in Manila.[/QUOTE]There is no reason to go " scientific " on this issue. Simple. Chat, invite, bed (if she agrees) , give some propina as present.
Meeting outside your room is good if you want to feel her out. But most of the time she will tag along atleast a friend for a free meal. I usually refuse saying three is a crowd and besides if there is.
Another person zero chance of getting her in your bed unless in rare instances they are in cahouts together.
If the girl agrees to come to your hotel sex is given unless they consider your looks or habits gross. One girl I met told me she refused to have sex with one DIA guy just because the guy was half drunk and smoked.
Our goal is not to meet for a simple date in most instances. So if the girl refuses to come to hotel by herself leave her out.
Believe me these girls have chatted, have met, have gone to bed with dia contacts. Only the new members in dia might not have but they are definitely no virgins. Ever realize how some girls say they are virgins.
The moment you mention sex. In Phi they consider themselves virgins as long as they do not have kids and younger than 21. Sex few times only classifies them as virgins in their mind.
Yes, they all are looking for a way out of their country for a better life. Having said that they are willing to settle for some money support.
All dia girls profess unending love after few chats before meeting. Ever wonder how even the bargirls love you if you keep her for for than one night?
True given the choice they would not like to be bargirls.
When guys refer to free sex are you not include meals, transport and gifts. If you value your time how much is that free pussy. I rather pay 500 or 1000 and send her off. This is a sex site not a dating site so going on about dating girls for free sex only give guys here a perspective PI is full of free pussy. Go and look how most of these girls live from peso to peso pay for service as you are visiting here. As I said why spend 1000 to fly and stay here and try score for free.
If you think posting how you got free pussy gives you a big ego then be thankful you small dick Koreans pay for pussy as there would be less girls avalible. Yes when you live here you get offer more free sex but point out these are girls you know not just met 20 min ago. This country needs the cash so do not feel proud that you visit here and pull in free sex. The Pino boys are ok if we pay to sex the pina but start not paying and a few bf will start to help the girls collect.
We use to have hotel room scams, if we have punters not spend the cash we may end up with them working out other ways to get paid.
Also look how the Koreans get the best lookers.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1172933]You guys are too obsessed with throwing money at people. If you want to do that then go to one of the local hooker holes. Why are you trying to give money to women from internet dating sites? Those women are free. You just meet and let nature take its course like you do with any other female on the planet. It is not rocket science.[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational: you are, of course, famous on this board for your conceits. But your point is worth addressing, despite your rudeness.
The answer to why I gave money to the girls I met in DIA (or from tagged in the Dom Republic or Badoo in Brazil) is that the women who bed the guys on these dating sites are not only looking for dates, they are trying to make ends meet in a way that preserves their dignity. They are earnest in their approach to the guys they meet and sleep with, but short of marrying the guys they meet, they have provided a service that deserves compensation. I never have negotiated payment before sex with these girls (or their counterparts in other countries) ; indeed, its the fact that they have sex with me willingly and are into it as much as I that makes the DIA girl more fun than P4P.
Nevertheless, only an asshole would believe that a beautiful 23 year old girl would bed a 55+ year old tourist on their first date because of his charm and good looks (ie,"nature taking its course"). Its not, as you say, rocket science.
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Nevertheless, only an asshole would believe that a beautiful 23 year old girl would bed a 55+ year old tourist on their first date because of his charm and good looks (ie,"nature taking its course"). Its not, as you say, rocket science.[/QUOTE]Then I must be one of several assholes on this board, buddy! I think you don't know as much as you pretend to do. In fact I actually think you know jack based on your comments.
From personal experience I have bedded many women and many times have had money thrown back at me when I tried to give them something as a present." Freebie I stayed with you because I like you " is a common phrase and had nothing to do with pesos and centavos.
Maybe you can't get the girls without the offer of money, but some of us can. Including those of us who are between 54 and 56. And who are currently banging a 19 years old Filipina a 23 year old Filipina, a 25 year old etc etcetc. Its a long list.
The only asshole around here maybe is.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1173043]When guys refer to free sex are you not include meals, transport and gifts. If you value your time how much is that free pussy. I rather pay 500 or 1000 and send her off. This is a sex site not a dating site so going on about dating girls for free sex only give guys here a perspective PI is full of free pussy. Go and look how most of these girls live from peso to peso pay for service as you are visiting here. As I said why spend 1000 to fly and stay here and try score for free.
If you think posting how you got free pussy gives you a big ego then be thankful you small dick Koreans pay for pussy as there would be less girls avalible. Yes when you live here you get offer more free sex but point out these are girls you know not just met 20 min ago. This country needs the cash so do not feel proud that you visit here and pull in free sex. .[/QUOTE]Yeah, its a sex site. We noticed that. And that includes all of us who get it free through dates or get it paid. I don't see the need to differentiate in the reporting.
I feel very proud of the free stuff that I do, given that I pay a vast amount of real estate tax each year, not to mention the contributions to the automobile industry, the airline industry, the food and beverage industry and certainly San Miguel. Oh and the fact I employ 40 people full time.
Get off your soap box and recognise theres more than just you playing here, and more than just you with an opinion.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1173043]When guys refer to free sex are you not include meals, transport and gifts. If you value your time how much is that free pussy. I rather pay 500 or 1000 and send her off. This is a sex site not a dating site so going on about dating girls for free sex only give guys here a perspective PI is full of free pussy. Go and look how most of these girls live from peso to peso pay for service as you are visiting here. As I said why spend 1000 to fly and stay here and try score for free.
If you think posting how you got free pussy gives you a big ego then be thankful you small dick Koreans pay for pussy as there would be less girls avalible. Yes when you live here you get offer more free sex but point out these are girls you know not just met 20 min ago. This country needs the cash so do not feel proud that you visit here and pull in free sex. The Pino boys are ok if we pay to sex the pina but start not paying and a few bf will start to help the girls collect.
We use to have hotel room scams, if we have punters not spend the cash we may end up with them working out other ways to get paid.
Also look how the Koreans get the best lookers.[/QUOTE]I'm Korean and I have to ask why is it that I always have to see shit like this where you (I don't mean to single you out in particular as many others do the same) have to preface Korean with derogatory terms like small dick or whatever? Should I start referring to all white people coming to PI as white trash from now on for example? Or use other derogatory terms everytime I mention specific nationalities? Really not necessary you know?
[QUOTE=Toronto;1173054]I'm Korean and I have to ask why is it that I always have to see shit like this where you (I don't mean to single you out in particular as many others do the same) have to preface Korean with derogatory terms like small dick or whatever? Should I start referring to all white people coming to PI as white trash from now on for example? Or use other derogatory terms everytime I mention specific nationalities? Really not necessary you know?[/QUOTE]First it is fact that the korean have small dicks [url]http://www.ansellcondoms.com.au/penis_size.asp[/url]
Second I saying it is good that koreans come to PI and pay the girls or else there would be less girls. So yes I am agree with you some white trash needs to learn from how the koreans support the girls here.
I know some of the sexiest girls in cebu are korean only I do not have a problem with that, I want the white trash to stop thinking sex for free is ok it makes it harder to get girls
Sorry about the dick
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1173050]Yeah, its a sex site. We noticed that. And that includes all of us who get it free through dates or get it paid. I don't see the need to differentiate in the reporting.
I feel very proud of the free stuff that I do, given that I pay a vast amount of real estate tax each year, not to mention the contributions to the automobile industry, the airline industry, the food and beverage industry and certainly San Miguel. Oh and the fact I employ 40 people full time.
Get off your soap box and recognise theres more than just you playing here, and more than just you with an opinion.[/QUOTE]It not a soap box, as you point out you pay every one but the girl who gives you service. Well done I am your number 1 fan
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1173089]It not a soap box, as you point out you pay every one but the girl who gives you service. Well done I am your number 1 fan[/QUOTE]Love you too, moron.
Meanwhile, moving on from the small brained minorities, was perusing through date in asia today and came across a pic of what I assumed to be a lady calling herself "Delicunt". Did she think its a play on elephant.
Then again, she turned out to be not entirely a girl. LOL
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1172800]I'd like to know the answer to this also.
Is it cut and dry like "Hi, nice to meet you, let's fuck and I'll give you cash"? Or, do you befriend her and hint at financial incentives over several chats via internet or sms?[/QUOTE]No No, never be the first to offer money. Its rude. If she asks for it "can you help me with my problem?" then you can go ahead and say "yes I'll help you". Or if she doesn't ask at all, slip some pesos into her purse the morning after the sex and tell her "here is some change for your taxi and get some nice clothes".
Prostitutes are rarely openly admitting who they are, and like to be treated as ladies.
You may be Korean, but your English is better than the person calling himself Frenzy3. There are more than a few morons on the ISG threads. Good luck. X.
[QUOTE=Toronto;1173054]I'm Korean and I have to ask why is it that I always have to see shit like this where you (I don't mean to single you out in particular as many others do the same) have to preface Korean with derogatory terms like small dick or whatever? Should I start referring to all white people coming to PI as white trash from now on for example? Or use other derogatory terms everytime I mention specific nationalities? Really not necessary you know?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Forest; 1172919]I assume that the question is, how does one get from "Hi" on a DIA chat to,"meet me at my hotel when I arrive in Manila and have sex with me for money."
Now, I am not highly experienced in the Philippines scene, but, I have had the pleasure of bedding two DIA girls in the five nights that I spent last year in Makati City. I plan to return to Manila soon. Hence, I recently did my own "scientific study" of DIA girl behavior in Manila (I messaged several of the girls as if I were already in Makati City and invited them to my hotel room for the purposes of "taking sexy photos" for a fee. About half readily agreed. As I was in the USA, I could not follow through). I have also pm'd several members of the board for their techniques and had a few discussions that can be found on the board. Here is my advice for a technique that I think will work well:
1) message as many girls as you want to have sex with on DIA. Be certain your profile states that you are looking for fun, and that it has a nice photo of you (or a proxy photo) dressed in nice clothing. I am convinced that nice clothing makes things easier, but I may be wrong. I add to my profile,"please be aware that I am not looking for a wife". Ask them to meet you at your hotel for dinner, drinking, fun, spending the night partying, sexy photos or whatever suits your fancy. Be certain that part of the invitation is overtly sexual, but avoid pornographic language. For instance, I told one of my two girls that I wanted to "spend the entire night with you in bed enjoying your beauty" (she responded by telling me that she was looking forward to sleeping in a bed with a good mattress!). Expect about half of the girls that you invite to your hotel to agree to your invitation.
Be aware that the girls often arrive long after the stated time (one was two hours late). Be aware that sometimes they simply do not show at all and a "plan B" may be necessary (to me, this was a walk through Makati, which ended up EXTREMELY well). I called both of my girls on the phone and spoke with them, a tactic that I think is more likely to get a result than simply sending SMS.
2) When the girl arrives at your hotel, be courteous and respectful, but invite her to your room immediately for drinks, to take those pictures, to party, etc. You will find that one thing moves onto another like night follows day. Both of my DIA girls were horizontal within minutes. The only need to bring up money is if she brings it up first.
3) When you are finished having sex with her, or spending the evening with her, and she is ready to leave, offer her an amount equivalent to what a real pro would have earned. My research both in the Phils (which I do not know well) is concordant with what I have observed dozens of times in the Dominican Rep or Brazil, where I pick up internet dates all the time. Even though these girls are not prostitutes, they will expect roughly the same gratuity (by my reading, this is now 1000 short time. 1500- 2000 long time for independent girls in Manila. There is no need to through in a barfine here!). I never tell them it is payment; I always say it is a present so that they can get themselves something nice or I tell them it is taxi fare. If you decide to keep the girl for a few days, as I did for my second girl in Manila, you will need to pay her off with a bigger present, such as a cell phone or a camera.
Getting the DIA girl to leave was more challenging than getting her to go to bed with me. When my second girl decided to start camping in my hotel room, I must admit that I got concerned. She really thought I wanted her to be my girlfriend, and I will not make this mistake again.
I would be interested if serious Manila-experienced mongerers agree with this approach.
FYI, I am in my mid 50's, a little overweight, gray hair. Not exactly Brad Pitt, but it does not seem to matter in Manila.[/QUOTE]LOL, my technic is simple. I just jump on line while in manila, look at makati, select the girl I want, write to her. I AM HERE. DO U WANT TO MEET NOW? 9 out of 10 times it works. The replay is yes, then ask for her number, I call her telling her to get into a taxi and get me from hotel, I will pay for the cab. Normally they arrive within 30 min and is in my bed 10 min latter. Chatting is waste of time.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1172919]I assume that the question is, how does one get from "Hi" on a DIA chat to,"meet me at my hotel when I arrive in Manila and have sex with me for money."
Now, I am not highly experienced in the Philippines scene, but, I have had the pleasure of bedding two DIA girls in the five nights that I spent last year in Makati City. I plan to return to Manila soon. Hence, I recently did my own "scientific study" of DIA girl behavior in Manila ([B]I messaged several of the girls as if I were already in Makati City[/B] And [B]invited them to my hotel room[/B] For the purposes of "taking sexy photos" for a fee. About half readily agreed. [B]As I was in the USA, I could not follow through[/B]). I have also pm'd several members of the board for their techniques and had a few discussions that can be found on the board. Here is my advice for a technique that [B]I think[/B] Will work well:[/QUOTE]Just like to make a couple of comments about this post from a long-time resident of the Phils and also a regular DIA scanner / user (see highlighted points).
1. It is leading girls on like this by making out you are already in Makati that makes them think guys are full of bullshit.
It really does make them suspicious. Many of us have experience of girls actually waiting until we say we are actually at a meeting point before they leave home because they cannot even afford the fare and need to be sure we are going to meet them. You cannot blame them if guys have spun them stories like this.
2. I have commented before about the risk of telling a girl your name, hotel and room number before you have actually met her. Quite often they are not like they seemed on chat or even on cam, and it is difficult to kick them to the kerb once they are at the door. I don't like to take any risks that could harm my hard-earned professional reputation so I prefer that a girl doesn't know where I am staying until I have checked her out in advance and I am reasonably sure about her motives.
3. I note you said you THINK will work. I thought from the tone of your post that you were sharing a tried and true method. I personally would NOT use your approach and I do quite well by being much more careful in my screening.
I think I just had my first online fisherwoman. Normally I am using odd sources to drum up girls on the internet, try to stay away from dating sites and what not but figured I'd try one. I think within 15 minutes she laid out the foundation of how she thinks she is going to rob me. Ha ha. So we're chatting for 15 minutes and then she say I have to go my mom is dying. Now that is some bad luck I tell you. It's hard to imagine it exists until you see it first hand but hopefully some of the guys getting taken are having better con-women take it from them. I think I'm going to play with this one, have her go to western union for money transfers that must have got lost. It's a shame these girls play with broken hearted guys just looking for someone to love. If a girl really wants you for you or even to get married and leave her country she's not going to ask you for money.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1173240]Just like to make a couple of comments about this post from a long-time resident of the Phils and also a regular DIA scanner / user (see highlighted points).
1. It is leading girls on like this by making out you are already in Makati that makes them think guys are full of bullshit.
It really does make them suspicious. Many of us have experience of girls actually waiting until we say we are actually at a meeting point before they leave home because they cannot even afford the fare and need to be sure we are going to meet them. You cannot blame them if guys have spun them stories like this.
2. I have commented before about the risk of telling a girl your name, hotel and room number before you have actually met her. Quite often they are not like they seemed on chat or even on cam, and it is difficult to kick them to the kerb once they are at the door. I don't like to take any risks that could harm my hard-earned professional reputation so I prefer that a girl doesn't know where I am staying until I have checked her out in advance and I am reasonably sure about her motives.
3. I note you said you THINK will work. I thought from the tone of your post that you were sharing a tried and true method. I personally would NOT use your approach and I do quite well by being much more careful in my screening.[/QUOTE]Please keep in mind that although I have clearly been criticized, I am not offended. My initial posting was in response to a guy who wanted to know how one goes from the fantasy of the DIA "dating site" to the practicality of fucking these girls. After all, they are mostly not professional prostitutes, just girls who are looking for a chance to escape poverty through marriage. On the other hand, if love does not come along, they are also typically willing to pick up cash for sex if the opportunity arises. If they were real prostitutes, they would not be on DIA because DIA is not an efficient way to make a living.
Let me respond to your post point by point.
1. I realize that I was not honest in my study, but I am uncertain why that bothers the mongerers on this board. Let's be truthful with one another, this indiscretion was relatively tiny. There are guys on ISG who readily admit (actually, they readily brag about) enticing a girl to bed with the implicit promise of compensation and after sex, send them off with nothing. Yes, while the 19 yo girl may seem satisfied with the opportunity to fuck a 55 yo white guy as a one night stand without getting paid, don't you think she would be more satisfied if she got a "gift"?
Then there are guys here who have unprotected sex, and when they realize they might have impregnated the girl go running to another city, potentially leaving the girl with a lifetime of child rearing expenses. The girl may be an asshole, but the girl is not the only consideration. These same people have no apparent concern for their own child, who may be left with the hardship of growing up with only one parent.
If you do not believe there are people with these attitudes, please read the last few days of postings on this board. For the record, I believe that even "freebies" should receive a gift after sex and that if one has unprotected sex, one should be prepared to be a real parent- with all of the attendant responsibilities. I cannot think of anything worse than fathering a child with a DIA girl. That is why I use condoms.
In summary, I agree that you are correct: I was NOT honest when I took my survey. But the girls that responded to my invitations were at most annoyed by this bullshit (and my survey was quite informative). The girls who fuck a 55 yo without the expected payout, or actually get pregnant have a lot more to be upset about.
2. I agree. But, how does one check out a girl in advance? Do you get references from other mongerers? And, what types of motives are sufficient to convince you to have sex with a girl? To me, the only motives that would stop a guy from having sex would be if I knew the girl wanted to do harm. Unfortunately, I think this is hard to determine. But, in principal, I cannot say you are wrong. I just do not know how you go through this evaluative process.
3. The idea of having a technique that will "work" depends on how one defines success."I think my technique will work" means I think I will get what I am looking for: ie, sex with the DIA girl of my dreams like a real boyfriend has sex with a real girlfriend. This is fantasy in action, of course, but a lot of fun. This approach worked for me well the last time I was in Manila. I see no reason why it should not be effective (with a few modifications) right now.
BUT THIS IS THE MAJOR POINT OF MY POSTING: I am looking for advice from more experienced mongerers like Red Kilt. I would very much appreciate it if you could elaborate on what you are looking for in a DIA encounter, and how you go about assuring that you get the result you want. Don't make me guess how thinkgs work in the Phils, share this knowledge with me. Indeed, this is the purpose of the ISG. You can flame me all you want but I will not be upset if I learn something new.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1173232]LOL, my technic is simple. I just jump on line while in manila, look at makati, select the girl I want, write to her. I AM HERE. DO U WANT TO MEET NOW? 9 out of 10 times it works. The replay is yes, then ask for her number, I call her telling her to get into a taxi and get me from hotel, I will pay for the cab. Normally they arrive within 30 min and is in my bed 10 min latter. Chatting is waste of time.[/QUOTE]When do you discuss payment?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1173407]When do you discuss payment?[/QUOTE]Once they turn up, you say what you want and how much they will get paid. If they say no ask them to find you a girl, I offer 200-500 finders fee.
I agree the best way to score on DIA is just say you are here in town. Be warned use another sim when you do as it will get flooded with text
[QUOTE=Forest; 1173394]readily brag about) Yes, while the 19 yo girl may seem satisfied with the opportunity to fuck a 55 yo white guy as a one night stand without getting paid, don't you think she would be more satisfied if she got a "gift"?
For the record, I believe that even "freebies" should receive a gift after sex.
The girls who fuck a 55 yo without the expected payout,
23. The BUT THIS IS THE MAJOR POINT OF MY POSTING: I am looking for advice from more experienced mongerers like Red Kilt. I would very much appreciate it if you could elaborate on what you are looking for in a DIA encounter, and how you go about assuring that you get the result you want. Don't make me guess how thinkgs work in the Phils, share this knowledge with me. Indeed, this is the purpose of the ISG. You can flame me all you want but I will not be upset if I learn something new.[/QUOTE]Ever had a girl look you in the eye and said " Maybe you think all girls expect payment but not me ". It does happen. No need to tar all or assume all. They maybe your experiences but are not necessarily mine.
I think the primary reason why some of mine are readily available for repeats is because I ensure we have a good time, nothing heavy, just good happy boy girl good times. And thats before the sex.
Anyway you asked how things work on DIA (AND ITS NOT THE ONLY SITE EITHER ). Is simple.
First, establish that you are in country or the date you will be.
Sadly DIA etc is cluttered with guys who make promises but don't show etc (as in your own "reseach")
Beyond that, create an interesting chat, make yourself interesting to the girl. Tell a girl you want her for sex only and she will surely run.
Develop your online persona, be interesting, be funny, make yourself stand out and create a reason for her to want to meet you. Thats all there is to it.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1173232]LOL, my technic is simple. I just jump on line while in manila, look at makati, select the girl I want, write to her. I AM HERE. DO U WANT TO MEET NOW? 9 out of 10 times it works. The replay is yes, then ask for her number, I call her telling her to get into a taxi and get me from hotel, I will pay for the cab. Normally they arrive within 30 min and is in my bed 10 min latter. Chatting is waste of time.[/QUOTE]Mac, you'll be meeting an army of ladyboys, retards, bullshit artists, mentally ill, chaperone "cousins", and other wildlife with this kind of tecnique. That would be a worse waste of time than inane online chatter.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1173410]Once they turn up, you say what you want and how much they will get paid. If they say no ask them to find you a girl, I offer 200-500 finders fee.[/QUOTE]
I don't see the point in doing this. Why not just pull a girl out of a bar? At least I know what I'm getting instead of this guessing game. Why pay someone a finder's fee when I can do my own finding (and I know precisely what I want)?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1173426]I don't see the point in doing this. Why not just pull a girl out of a bar? At least I know what I'm getting instead of this guessing game. Why pay someone a finder's fee when I can do my own finding (and I know precisely what I want)?[/QUOTE]You do it your way I do mine, but have a look at the photos I have posted, asking a pina to find me what I want works for me, I value my time and prefer non bar girls.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1173444]You do it your way I do mine, but have a look at the photos I have posted, asking a pina to find me what I want works for me, I value my time and prefer non bar girls.[/QUOTE]Hey, don't get so defense man! No shit we all have our methods. Your method just sounds absurd, that's all.
Guy: So, how much.
Girl: Sorry, I don't do that.
Guy: How about me pay you a FINDER'S FEE!
Girl: Sure! Let me call all my slutty friends
Uh...don't think so. Except the pros, most Filipinas are quite conservative. If she ain't gonna sleep with you, she's likely not the type who pimps out her friends.
[QUOTE=X Man;1173183]You may be Korean, but your English is better than the person calling himself Frenzy3. There are more than a few morons on the ISG threads. Good luck. X.[/QUOTE]
There is NO REASON why any straight guy would care about another guy's penis size. Talking about who has a small dick is so junior high school.
[QUOTE=Forest;1173394]Please keep in mind that although I have clearly been criticized, I am not offended. My initial posting was in response to a guy who wanted to know how one goes from the fantasy of the DIA "dating site" to the practicality of fucking these girls. After all, they are mostly not professional prostitutes, just girls who are looking for a chance to escape poverty through marriage. SNIP. I am looking for advice from more experienced mongerers like Red Kilt. I would very much appreciate it if you could elaborate on what you are looking for in a DIA encounter, and how you go about assuring that you get the result you want. Don't make me guess how thinkgs work in the Phils, share this knowledge with me. Indeed, this is the purpose of the ISG. You can flame me all you want but I will not be upset if I learn something new.[/QUOTE]I didn't flame you, and my criticism was gentle.
Remember an important thing. I LIVE HERE. That means I have time to take it slowly on DIA. I can even meet a girl for coffee only just to say Hello, in order to set up a second date that will be a sure success. The 7 day monger does NOT have that time luxury, so you need to remember that.
Along with many other colleagues on this board, I have met many many girls from (mainly DIA). Not one of them has been on time, or even close to ontime, and we have discussed why this happens on many threads. One reason often given for not leaving home until they are sure we will meet them is because guys have previously told them where and what time to meet and then didn't show, and the girl is left with a borrowed fare to repay and no money.
This is the realty of the Phils. I have had a girl burst into tears with gratitude because I gave her 500 php for her taxi ride home after she has spent 100 php on a tricycle, a bus and a jeepney to meet me at Trinoma. I am glad Forest admitted he was wrong to spin the bullshit that he was already in Makati when he wasn't, because these experiences make the girls very sceptical and hardens them too.
I know very well that mongers tell all sorts of lies to girls to get them to bed because the girls have told me about them. You will find a string of posts on ISG from Freebie Fan and I (amongst others) who tell the girls the absolute truth about ourselves as well as having profiles that are very explicit. We say we are married; we state we want fun only; we even wear rings and things. The amazing result is that we still get lots and lots of hits, and lots and lots of success, because (a) girls like guys who are direct and straight and (be) it eliminates all the "God-fearers" and the marriage seekers. OK so we turn off 80% of girls that read the profile, but the other 20% don't need bullshit to convince them to meet us and are usually good to go. The trick is to sort out the professional hookers from the fun-lovers in that 20%, and ability to do that comes with experience.
My approach is as follows, since Forest asked for assistance.
I open DIA now and again and browse through profiles. I never send messages, just read profiles. I do not have a pic, but I say in my profile that I will share a pic later on email if we become friends.
These girls know I have visited their profiles because DIA tells them, and so they then check me out.
Many click on by after they read my profile because they don't like my frankness, but a surprising number (around 20%) send a message to me (often just a Hello or Hi but at least it indicates interest). It is only then that I respond, and I always first ask if they have read AND understood my profile. About 1/3rd drop out at this step, because theyhaven't read it so they reread my profile and read past the word "foreigner" in the first line and realise I am there for fun only.
Of course, there are also some girls who send messages whose profiles I never previously read. I respond to them in the same way.
All of these sift methods form a pool from which one can then select possible new friends.
I send messages, chat, exchange pics etc with most of them and it soon becomes easy to spot the live ones from the imposters and hookers. Don't ask me how. After a while I just know, and you will too if you have any experience with people.
I always say that we need to meet in person first and then I arrange to meet in a PUBLIC PLACE, usually a mall coffee shop, so I can check them out. I rarely expect to have success on the first meeting, but it has happened on a few memorable occasions. I drop off a number of girls at this point, because they are not like they seem on chat or cam or we do not have "chemistry".
I live in Manila so easy to meet those from here or nearby places like Bulacan or Cavite or Pampanga etc and I ask them to travel to meet me and I always give transport money too. It is never more than 2 or 300 php, and usually way less.
If Cebu or Davao I arrange to meet on my next trip there (I travel frequently on business).
One you have met then the rest follows easily. You have to learn to be frank, and not to beat around the Bush. I told one recent girl I met that this would be a short meeting to get to know each other and if we liked each other then we could meet again. When we met she asked what will happen on Date 2 and I said smiling that we will go somewhere more private than the mall and get to know each other better. She smiled too and after she went home the texts that we exchanged until we met again one week later became increasingly more raunchy and explicit and when we met it was a wild session. She was one girl that I could have taken to SOGO after coffee because she was ready to go but I never had the time.
Sometimes if I have time I suggest we see a movie and that is a good way to see what she is like. I have had girls who move from initial hand-holding in the dark to me putting their hands onto my dick in a short time. All of them will like the hand-holding anyway, and many make out they are shocked when I accidentally brush their hand against my stiffy but rarely do they pull the hand away and more often than not they come back for more. None have jumped up and walked out.
I hope this helps Forest.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1173458]Hey, don't get so defense man! No shit we all have our methods. Your method just sounds absurd, that's all.
Guy: So, how much.
Girl: Sorry, I don't do that.
Guy: How about me pay you a FINDER'S FEE!
Girl: Sure! Let me call all my slutty friends.
Uh. Don't think so. Except the pros, most Filipinas are quite conservative. If she ain't going to sleep with you, she's likely not the type who pimps out her friends.[/QUOTE]Post some pics or are you just talk and no action
Is it a touchy subject for you since you have a China man size dick
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1173412]Beyond that, create an interesting chat, make yourself interesting to the girl. Tell a girl you want her for sex only and she will surely run.
Develop your online persona, be interesting, be funny, make yourself stand out and create a reason for her to want to meet you. Thats all there is to it.[/QUOTE]We always pay one way or another, don't we? Anyone that knows me also knows that me and FreebieFan are somewhat similar in our general approach to mongering. Suckers for the human contact that is created in fun and communication. Sometimes this approach is harder work than to just fork up the cash, but having "just great sex" is lesser than having great sex AND chemistry IMHO. My dear friend GE often ask me why I bother to entertain so many next to gf-relations, and I can honestly not answer him (yet). Maybe I am vain and like to feel "loved not only for my money"? And then in periods I say "f*ck it" and goes for hard core hoes, only to be back a month, or three, later to fooling around with a new "gf".
Lovely girls, Frenzy3. I have met you and I have seen your technique at work. Your generous and can have more or less as many girls you want, with this referral strategy. If you want to live in the dream that you are dating a "real gf", it could perhaps hurt the cause somewhat to ask if you can fuck all of her friends as well, but for what the extremely liberal relations you are engaged in, it seems very efficient. I would love to be a fly on the wall when you stick you T-Rex in the mouth of that girl you brought to Red Lips, and have her girlfriend eat her out at the same time. I would mount myself behind the girlfriend of your girlfriend, and give her little lesbian fanny a surprise visit. The lesbian was really cute. Did you get to try her?
Barba
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1173416]Mac, you'll be meeting an army of ladyboys, retards, bullshit artists, mentally ill, chaperone "cousins", and other wildlife with this kind of tecnique. That would be a worse waste of time than inane online chatter.[/QUOTE]LOL there is little bit more to it that what I wrote. I do get them to jump on cam before meeting them to establish if its really them. I speak to them on the phone for few minutes to see what they are like. I don't give out my room number, only hotel or place near by to meet them. What I was trying to say is that there is no point talking to them for weeks or coming up with stupid excuses to get them to your bedroom, you are better off just inviting them to meet while you are already in phils. I agree with RK, lots of crap happens on dia for which many of us sooner or latter suffer and the phone call to reassure them that you are in the county is what does the trick. Even if they don't have cam they are happy to set up time tomorrow to meet up with you on cam to prove that they are the once on the photo. Also there are few other things that do play part like time. When do you jump on dia (time wise) , photo and so on.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1173544]LOL there is little bit more to it that what I wrote. I do get them to jump on cam before meeting them to establish if its really them. I speak to them on the phone for few minutes to see what they are like. I don't give out my room number, only hotel or place near by to meet them. What I was trying to say is that there is no point talking to them for weeks or coming up with stupid excuses to get them to your bedroom, you are better off just inviting them to meet while you are already in phils. I agree with RK, lots of crap happens on dia for which many of us sooner or latter suffer and the phone call to reassure them that you are in the county is what does the trick. Even if they don't have cam they are happy to set up time tomorrow to meet up with you on cam to prove that they are the once on the photo. Also there are few other things that do play part like time. When do you jump on dia (time wise) , photo and so on.[/QUOTE]I just don't get why you guys all use like the most widely used site. If I went to a small lake and saw a ton of boats fishing I would move to the next area. There are so many ways to meet girls online without using a dating site which is asking for trouble of scams and who knows what else.
Can we please get the discussion to a higher level?
If you are here to insult others then better go else where.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1173407]When do you discuss payment?[/QUOTE]I don't. You will find that semi pros or pros will bring the topic on the phone or while cam chat. They won't travel if they don't think they will get what they want.
The once that don't bring it up are usually happy with cab fair up and back (although they may ask 500 peso for what is really a 100 peso up and back trip) and good time. Good time can be anything from taking them to eat out, window shopping, movies or even a nice bubble bath in the hotel. I am with FreebeeFan, I believe in showing them good time so that if I decide to repeat I can. I also get a better gf experience and almost always another referral or two, don't be shy to ask. You will sometimes hear the sob story in the morning, milk for the baby, relo in hospital etc, etc. I usually tell them lets go for breakfast / drink and once out of the room I give them whatever I think its ok and tell them goodbye.
[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1173547]I just don't get why you guys all use like the most widely used site. If I went to a small lake and saw a ton of boats fishing I would move to the next area. There are so many ways to meet girls online without using a dating site which is asking for trouble of scams and who knows what else.[/QUOTE]Dia accounts for less then 10% of my conquests. My best looking pick ups come from elsewhere. FB for instance is great if you can get into the right circles there. DIA is just convenient I guess.
What I miss in the "method discussion" is that there not not one best method since we are looking for different things: pro's, free lancers, freebies etc (yes also many pro's are on DIA).
But whatever you are looking for. Frankness and not beating around the Bush show character and is universally appreciated by girls I think.
I only care freebies (because I like the hunting for the kill) and sometimes in experienced free lancers. FL's of course I pay.
Freebies. If I have wined and dined them (mostly until late dancing etc) and they choose to stay, I see no reason why I should pay them more than their taxi fare. But I still do. But always find a nice way not to make it look like payment but a gift from a friend.
Even if she does not stay. (then of course she does not get "help"). But if you had fun you have a new friend. And a hot girl has hot friends. Whom you can meet a next time and hope for more luck.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1173471]I open DIA now and again and browse through profiles. I never send messages, just read profiles. I do not have a pic, but I say in my profile that I will share a pic later on email if we become friends.[/QUOTE]Why don't you have a Pic?
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1173471]Many click on by after they read my profile because they don't like my frankness, but a surprising number (around 20%) send a message to me (often just a Hello, or Hi but at least it indicates interest). It is only then that I respond, and I always first ask if they have read AND understood my profile. About 1/3rd drop out at this step, because they haven't read it so they reread my profile and read past the word "foreigner" in the first line and realise I am there for fun only.
I hope this helps Forest.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that helpful and informative post.
I'm trying to improve my Internet game and I think I have been too much "Mr. Marriage Nice Guy," which sets of expectations I can't deliver on.
An important point, but a tough one to grasp, is to be choosy, rather than try to appeal to every single girl possible.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1173583]Why don't you have a Pic?[/QUOTE]I don't put pictures up either. Why? To me putting a picture up is a sign of desperation, that you're going to go out of your way to get a girl. I write like 1-2 sentences, now I'm not on DIA, but on a similar type platform. I have girls cam with me all the time, some will even get naked with only seeing a couple pictures of me after I decide to send them. Unfortunately only 1 in 10 girls are attractive enough to talk to, and probably 1 in 10 of them are attractive enough to meet.
[QUOTE=Fslag338; 1173559]What I miss in the "method discussion" is that there not not one best method since we are looking for different things: pro's, free lancers, freebies etc (yes also many pro's are on DIA).
But whatever you are looking for. Frankness and not beating around the Bush show character and is universally appreciated by girls I think.
I only care freebies (because I like the hunting for the kill) and sometimes in experienced free lancers. FL's of course I pay.
Freebies. If I have wined and dined them (mostly until late dancing etc) and they choose to stay, I see no reason why I should pay them more than their taxi fare. But I still do. But always find a nice way not to make it look like payment but a gift from a friend.
Even if she does not stay. (then of course she does not get "help"). But if you had fun you have a new friend. And a hot girl has hot friends. Whom you can meet a next time and hope for more luck.[/QUOTE]Me too only care about freebies. Not because I'm afraid to spend a peso but just for the pleasure and fun plus the excitement. Ending up in my hotelroom (which is often the case) , has a much more rewarding experience. If you treat them nice, buy them drinks, chances are significantly high. Yes, yes I know that also cost money but I really do not care. I went to Cebu a few weeks ago, went out 3 consecutive nights with my gorgeous DIA date (why change her if she's really good) , each night ending in my room. The final night, we invited 5 of her friends who never or seldom see a disco inside. They shared a 500-peso cocktail pitcher all night and we had heaps of fun with happy ending again of course. I love the Philippines!
[QUOTE=Barba; 1173529]We always pay one way or another, don't we? Anyone that knows me also knows that me and FreebieFan are somewhat similar in our general approach to mongering. Suckers for the human contact that is created in fun and communication. Sometimes this approach is harder work than to just fork up the cash, but having "just great sex" is lesser than having great sex AND chemistry IMHO. My dear friend GE often ask me why I bother to entertain so many next to gf-relations, and I can honestly not answer him (yet). Maybe I am vain and like to feel "loved not only for my money"? And then in periods I say "f*ck it" and goes for hard core hoes, only to be back a month, or three, later to fooling around with a new "gf".
Lovely girls, Frenzy3. I have met you and I have seen your technique at work. Your generous and can have more or less as many girls you want, with this referral strategy. If you want to live in the dream that you are dating a "real gf", it could perhaps hurt the cause somewhat to ask if you can fuck all of her friends as well, but for what the extremely liberal relations you are engaged in, it seems very efficient. I would love to be a fly on the wall when you stick you T-Rex in the mouth of that girl you brought to Red Lips, and have her girlfriend eat her out at the same time. I would mount myself behind the girlfriend of your girlfriend, and give her little lesbian fanny a surprise visit. The lesbian was really cute. Did you get to try her?
Barba[/QUOTE]Yeah I know these pina are not GF, as for my motto is "I am paying them to leave" I tell them that is what the money is for. After having a liberal gf for 20+ years I am never changing, and I rather turn over the gf every 4-7 years, and have FF to spice it up every week, I still bar hop as you saw but they have to be as good quality to get my time and peso.
Ping me next time you are in town, I have to share my some of my FF I have a few lesbians who will do what you are asking.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1173583]Why don't you have a Pic?[/QUOTE]I live here and work here in a government-linked position, and I don't wish to be identified on a web-site such as DIA.
I do not need all the drama and tsismis (gossip) that comes with putting personal data out there for everyone.
It is also just a side-line activity to "test the water" regarding available women. If DIA closed tomorrow I would still be OK. It is not my sole means of meeting potential companions.
We all use "nicknames" on ISG too so we are not identified. I prefer a high level of anonymity in much of what I do in the Philippines. It is one country in my experience where it pays to keep your head down (no pun or ambiguity intended).
[quote=red kilt; 1173832]i live here and work here in a government-linked position, and i don't wish to be identified on a web-site such as dia.
i do not need all the drama and tsismis (gossip) that comes with putting personal data out there for everyone.
it is also just a side-line activity to "test the water" regarding available women. if dia closed tomorrow i would still be ok. it is not my sole means of meeting potential companions.
we all use "nicknames" on isg too so we are not identified. i prefer a high level of anonymity in much of what i do in the philippines. it is one country in my experience where it pays to keep your head down (no pun or ambiguity intended).[/quote]i can well understand rk's stringent protection of his anonymity. if you live here, and work in a job with a reasonably high degree of visibility, this turns into a very small country very quickly. i would not even think about posting a profile, no matter that it's under a pseudonym as i would worry that one of the random people i might meet might turn out to be someone i know professionally, or who knows someone whom i know professionally. the inter-connections here among families and extended families and friends of extended families are complex, wide and extremely efficient in spreading tsimis. the informal intelligence apparatus here would put the cia and mi 6 to shame, and the speed with which bad news (gossip) travels is sometimes faster than the internet. deceit here is a complex web indeed.
ge
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1173778]Ping me next time you are in town, I have to share my some of my FF I have a few lesbians who will do what you are asking.[/QUOTE]Now THAT is a sales pitch. I knew it was a mistake to only book one evening in Cebu. I need to choose this evenings activities wisely.
Any chance you can PM me your number again?
B
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1173832]Quote Originally Posted by Amjeck View Post.
Why don't you have a Pic?[/QUOTE]I am puzzled by all you guys who claim to be scoring big with blank picture profiles.
While waiting for my pic to be approved on DIA I was getting exactly zero messages and just a few replies to my intro message. The moment the pic got approved, the messages start flooding in by the dozen. Most girls will go to "Last Active" page and click on a photo there and start messaging. having no pic means you arent in that list and therefore invisible.
Not accusing you fellas of "embellishing" the truth, just curious whats going on.
Also a question to you - Do you message girls profiles that have a blank picture?
I can't remember if I have ever wined and dined a lady on our first meeting. But one evening I did take a woman and her friend on a night sail around Manila bay to watch the fireworks off the Mall of Asia.
Usually we meet in a neutral place so that either of us can bail out. We might have a coffee and a chat. On a couple of occasions I have bailed out. Then when the conversation goes into that pregnant pause stage, I ask her what she would like to do. Sometimes she just takes my hand and we head off to the hotel, sometimes she gets that expression on her face and I ask her if she wants to come with me, or sometimes I give her a face-saver and ask if she wants to watch some TV.
I don't think that one has ever bailed out at this stage, and usually she starts to strip off as we walk into the room. On a few occasions, we just lie on the bed and smooch for a while till she settles in, and then the dance begins.
It is my impression that when a pinay agree to meet with a foreigner, she has basically made up her mind that she is going to mate with him. A meeting before they begin gives her the option to opt out if she finds him repulsive. Otherwise, it is just a matter of steering things along, not aggravating her, and making sure that she saves face at alltimes.
Does anyone else think the same way?
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1174267]I am puzzled by all you guys who claim to be scoring big with blank picture profiles.
While waiting for my pic to be approved on DIA I was getting exactly zero messages and just a few replies to my intro message. The moment the pic got approved, the messages start flooding in by the dozen. Most girls will go to "Last Active" page and click on a photo there and start messaging. Having no pic means you arent in that list and therefore invisible.
Not accusing you fellas of "embellishing" the truth, just curious whats going on.
Also a question to you. Do you message girls profiles that have a blank picture?[/QUOTE]Remember that I said I live here and so I am not in any hurry. I don't need 100s of hits. 1 or 2 each day is plenty for me, although I get more than that.
You need a catchy name, and the profile heading should also be catchy. They see that even if there is no picture.
FBA. You are assuming that "most girls will go to the 'Last Active' page and click on a photo there" but just today I had 6 different women send me a message to my blank picture profile so that proves that certainly not all girls do it. I assure you I am not embellishing the truth.
As I said in my earlier post, I never message women. I just read profiles and wait for them to follow up on me. I also read profiles without pictures.
[quote=gangles; 1174276]it is my impression that when a pinay agree to meet with a foreigner, she has basically made up her mind that she is going to mate with him. a meeting before they begin gives her the option to opt out if she finds him repulsive. otherwise, it is just a matter of steering things along, not aggravating her, and making sure that she saves face at alltimes.
does anyone else think the same way?[/quote]yah, pretty much that's been my experience too. except for the handful i've met that turned out to be **** and were just curious to meet a foreign man. even they would have gone with me if i'd asked, i believe.
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1174276]I can't remember if I have ever wined and dined a lady on our first meeting. But one evening I did take a woman and her friend on a night sail around Manila bay to watch the fireworks off the Mall of Asia.
Usually we meet in a neutral place so that either of us can bail out. We might have a coffee and a chat. On a couple of occasions I have bailed out. Then when the conversation goes into that pregnant pause stage, I ask her what she would like to do. Sometimes she just takes my hand and we head off to the hotel, sometimes she gets that expression on her face and I ask her if she wants to come with me, or sometimes I give her a face-saver and ask if she wants to watch some TV.
I don't think that one has ever bailed out at this stage, and usually she starts to strip off as we walk into the room. On a few occasions, we just lie on the bed and smooch for a while till she settles in, and then the dance begins.
It is my impression that when a pinay agree to meet with a foreigner, she has basically made up her mind that she is going to mate with him. A meeting before they begin gives her the option to opt out if she finds him repulsive. Otherwise, it is just a matter of steering things along, not aggravating her, and making sure that she saves face at alltimes.
Does anyone else think the same way?[/QUOTE]Once you screen out the time wasters after a free meal the rest pretty much expect you to meat them when you meet them. :D
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1174276]It is my impression that when a pinay agree to meet with a foreigner, she has basically made up her mind that she is going to mate with him. A meeting before they begin gives her the option to opt out if she finds him repulsive. Otherwise, it is just a matter of steering things along, not aggravating her, and making sure that she saves face at alltimes.
Does anyone else think the same way?[/QUOTE]Well the shrinks say a woman decides within 30 seconds of meeting a man whether she will ever sleep with him or not.
However passing the 30 second test does not guarantee that she will sleep with you immediately. It could be in an hour, a day, a week or after marriage.
Getting one into your hotel is by no means a guarantee of success. I had more than one instance of the girl going to my place, then sleeping with her clothes on there. Or, even worse, sleeping there naked but refusing any kind of sexual advances cause she wants to stay celebate for her future husband. There are also those who will willingly jump on you as soon as the door is closed. I had all types of outcomes (including an instance of a ladyboy who was so incredibly female looking and acting that he fooled me to the last moment)
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1174290]FBA. You are assuming that "most girls will go to the 'Last Active' page and click on a photo there" but just today I had 6 different women send me a message to my blank picture profile so that proves that certainly not all girls do it. I assure you I am not embellishing the truth.[/quote]I had several ladies browse DIA on my laptop and I observed what they do. Login. Check Inbox. Reply to Messages. Last Active. Click the most interesting looking photo. Message. Repeat.
If there are others who act differently, I haven't met them. Perhaps they exist and our paths don't cross.
If I only met girls who messaged ME first. Thats a scary thought. What an ugly bunch! BUT on the other hand, it's certainly a lot easier to score with a girl who messaged you first. In fact you might have a hard time getting rid of her afterwards (I had a stalker case once). The best ladies I met from DIA not only I messaged them first, they don't message ANY man first as a matter of personal pride.
Half of the girls clearly say in their profile "No Pic No Reply" and they mean it.
But yes, if you are patient, and have a ton of time to wait, the scoring chances on a woman who is willing to message you first and you don't have a pic and a have profile that says you only want sex, yes the chances of closing the deal would be very high for that lady.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1174300]Well the shrinks say a woman decides within 30 seconds of meeting a man whether she will ever sleep with him or not.
However passing the 30 second test does not guarantee that she will sleep with you immediately. It could be in an hour, a day, a week or after marriage.
Getting one into your hotel is by no means a guarantee of success. I had more than one instance of the girl going to my place, then sleeping with her clothes on there. Or, even worse, sleeping there naked but refusing any kind of sexual advances cause she wants to stay celebate for her future husband. There are also those who will willingly jump on you as soon as the door is closed. I had all types of outcomes (including an instance of a ladyboy who was so incredibly female looking and acting that he fooled me to the last moment) [/QUOTE]These kind of girls are playing a day old virgins. They do not want to be percieved as easy girls as we know very well in the western world. Sex only after couple of dates.
But in Phi as tourists we do not have time or patience for this.
IMHO none of my girls who came to my hotel refused sex. Some required little more foreplay. Yes, sometimes they acted insulted when I gave them money. I insisted it is not for sex but a token of
Friendship so that she can buy something for her. None refused money flat out. Only problem is once you get into their pants hard to get away from the texts and calls.
How to say she stunk in love making? I really do not want to insult them. Always got my diplomatic way out saying I am busy or something. How to answer her calls when I am with another girl?
Worst thing is meeting these non-pros and not getting the kind of sex you imagined or expected.
I just saw this profile on DIA:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/eunhice.html[/url]
I'm sure DoubleD will be interested.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1174310]. <SNIP
Half of the girls clearly say in their profile "No Pic No Reply" and they mean it.[/QUOTE]I need to question your random use of "half of the girls" and "they mean it" FBA. (Seems like I am picking on you but I assure you I am not. I am just clarifying things in a robust discussion forum).
I think we all agree that it is necessary to ask girls on DIA several questions:
Did you read my profile carefully and do you understand it?
Did you write your own profile or did you just copy it, and is it accurate?
I mention this because in the past week I have had 2 girls who had the "No pic No reply" in their profile who actually SENT ME AN UNSOLICITED MESSAGE to a profile which has NO PIC. When I called them on this both said (paraphrasing) that it's OK because they never wrote their profile anyway so just ignore that.
I have also had responses from other girls with the "no pic no reply" who read my profile after I had visited theirs. They might think they mean it but then when an interesting sounding guy without a pic hits on them they cannot stick to their "ideals".
Another example:
My profile says "I don't wish to meet smokers". Last night a "social smoker" messaged me. I replied "Not interested. Read my profile. I don't want to meet smokers".
She came back with "I gave up 6 months ago. I never realised it was on my profile".
I told her to change her profile then. She said"I don't know how. I will ask my friend to do it for me because she is the one who put my profile on here".
My main point! Don't believe anything you read on profiles, even down to the God-fearing and must be Christian bits. Some of my most memorable meetings have been those whose profiles seemed directly opposite to what I was looking for. To use a random statistic. I would say 10% maximum of girls have carefully constructed their own profile so that it represents exactly who they are and what they want. These women are usually slightly older, well-educated, and won't take any shit from anyone.
They are usually off-base for most mongers LOL
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1174428]I just saw this profile on DIA:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/eunhice.html[/url]
I'm sure DoubleD will be interested.[/QUOTE]She is 72 kg or 159lbs. Mostly in the mammaries I guess. And I see she is "willing to give anything, everything".
KongKing
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1174474]I mention this because in the past week I have had 2 girls who had the "No pic No reply" in their profile who actually SENT ME AN UNSOLICITED MESSAGE to a profile which has NO PIC. When I called them on this both said (paraphrasing) that it's OK because they never wrote their profile anyway so just ignore that.[/QUOTE]RK, how do they find your profile in the first place? If you don't appear in the Last Active list, then the only way to get to you is going through "Search" and picking your picless profile out of the 40 others that show up on that search list?
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1174485]RK, how do they find your profile in the first place? If you don't appear in the Last Active list, then the only way to get to you is going through "Search" and picking your picless profile out of the 40 others that show up on that search list?[/QUOTE]I guess so FBA. I assume they just scroll through and look at profiles, pics, headings etc. I use a catchy title so maybe they look at that. I also only ever look in the "Philippines" list - I stand out on that list because I am a foreigner.
Some women spend hours and hours online too so they have the time to scroll endlessly through profiles.
I also believe that many of the no-picture profiles are those of professional and well-connected women who, like me, do not wish to be recognised and want some discretion, like me. Many of these women turn out to be absolute stunners.
I guess they think that guys without pics might be like them, and are wanting to be discreet and also with a high-profile job. So they deliberately target profiles without pics.
I must add that many of the women who do write to me are actually those without pics too. If ever we get to sharing pics on email, I can then filter out those for whom I feel no attraction.
As I said before, DIA is just a sideline for me. I live and work in Manila with a very intensive work schedule so I just check DIA when I need a break or a diversion. I can understand guys and gals wanting to take short-cuts by hitting on the sexy pictures on the "last active" and not worrying about the other profiles. I rarely bother with the "last active" section. I know that the real stunning girls who are showing 3/4s of their boobs will have been hit on by every monger from all over the world so it is a low percentage shot for me.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1174267]I am puzzled by all you guys who claim to be scoring big with blank picture profiles.
While waiting for my pic to be approved on DIA I was getting exactly zero messages and just a few replies to my intro message. The moment the pic got approved, the mes,. Do you message girls profiles that have a blank picture?[/QUOTE]I never put a pic in the profile, and if they ask me, I tell them that I think is better to know the person from inside first. And I offer to show them my cam. Work for me. Also I do target marketing, select age group and location and send them interest. Usually I get a 30% respond of these almost 90% would get me their ym and then we start chatting. Because I am interested only in cam / phone (don't have any reason to travel there but I wish, well not yet, working on a reason) , I make sure that they have a cam in their room OR that they sleep alone (no sis, cous, auntie, etc). Today another virg stop being virg thanks to the power of Google Voice in Cebu. Every virg is different some of them got very tired very quickly some of them just want to keep going. Today she didn't want to stop, she must have cum 2 times pre-defloration and like 10 after. I know you guys think I am just bullshitting but it just amazing. Just be respectful, caring and kind when you talk to them in chat and they will do anything VERY fast, like they don't want to lose you, they tell me all the foreign so rude, but I am different. The girl I got today was 19 and we chatted for 1 hr or so. I got a nurse who is studying outside pinoy 2 days ago age 24, again 1 hr chatting, then phone sex, then she show me in cam quickly. We could not do full cam because she is in a dorm. Capture both in sound and vdo (only the nurse) for my offline enjoyment.
[QUOTE=Member #1088;1175735],. Every virg is different some of them got very tired very quickly some of them just want to keep going. Today she didn't want to stop, she must have cum 2 times pre-defloration and like 10 after. I know you guys think I am just bullshitting but it just amazing. Just be respectful, caring and kind when you talk to them in chat and they will do anything VERY fast, like they don't want to lose you, they tell me all the foreign so rude, but I am different. The girl I got today was 19 and we chatted for 1 hr or so. I got a nurse who is studying outside pinoy 2 days ago age 24, again 1 hr chatting, then phone sex, then she show me in cam quickly. We could not do full cam because she is in a dorm. Capture both in sound and vdo (only the nurse) for my offline enjoyment.[/QUOTE]I'm sure that your post will, as before generate many non believers. So let me ask a question.
How do you know that they are virgin. I've bonked many virgins over the years and could never say at exactly what moment during the penetration that little hymen actually burst.
So if I can't actually tell when I'm physically inside a girl, how can a guy on cam know that she was actually a virgin in the first place.
I think possibly, these girls are telling you what you want to hear." Sure Mr Member, yes of course I'm a virgin ".
Oh one additional question. Why don't you go to the Philippines. If you can do as you claim to do by voice, think how great you could be if you actually met them.
It may either be a sign of too many chat-mates, or my growing senility, but here are my top 10 most embarrassing chat-mate comments.
No 10. 'Don't you remember, last time you gave me some lovely ear-rings pasalubong; it was not Cadbury's chocolate. '
No 9. 'How many times do I have to tell you, my name is Annalyn, not Annabelle. '
No 8. 'I thought you said you arrived yesterday. How come your ticket over there says you arrived 4 days ago? '
No 7. 'No, we have never been to this restaurant before. I don't like Japanese food. '
No 6. 'Any reason why there is this damp spot here on my side of the bed? '
No 5. 'You don't remember! We slept together two years ago! My profile name then was Jasmine. '
No 4. 'Why are there long strands of black hair on the floor of your shower? '
No 3. 'In your mobile phone why am I listed as CEB Dia 21 Marilou2 virg? '
No 2. 'There is a (sanitary) pad in your waste-basket. So you have the mens at the moment? '
No 1. (In the bedroom) 'Oh didn't I tell you before, I'm bakla (a ladyboy) '
Great list KongKing! I laughed a lot reading it. Very recognizable. We all need some system in our phone to keep track of all the girls we are dating. Hair in the shower. Check. Wet spot. Check. But number one no check! . Hope to keep that forever unchecked!
This is another one of those frequent profile headings in pigeon english, anyone knows what it means?"I am Simple but Rock"
Their head is hard as a rock? They like hard rock?
[QUOTE=Sammon;1174315]Only problem is once you get into their pants hard to get away from the texts and calls.[/QUOTE]This is EXACTLY the problem. How do you get rid of them without being a total prick about it? Anybody have advice on this point?
[QUOTE=Willie Wonker;1176021]This is EXACTLY the problem. How do you get rid of them without being a total prick about it? Anybody have advice on this point?[/QUOTE]You tell them up front you not paying them to stay, you are paying them to leave so you can fuck the next one
[QUOTE=Willie Wonker;1176021]This is EXACTLY the problem. How do you get rid of them without being a total prick about it? Anybody have advice on this point?[/QUOTE]You tell them BEFORE the deed you are not looking for a wife or soulmate but just a fling. Then there is no problem. If you told them you are looking for your one and only then fuck them, you are being a prick no matter what you say afterwards.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]It may either be a sign of too many chat-mates, or my growing senility, but here are my top 10 most embarrassing chat-mate comments.[/QUOTE]Come on KK. Maybe you make a good monger, but you suck as a player. Allow me to take you through Player 101.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 10. 'Don't you remember, last time you gave me some lovely ear-rings pasalubong; it was not Cadbury's chocolate. '[/QUOTE]Yes, they were chocolate earrings because I remember getting them from the Cadbury store in ______ (insert your home town or stopover city).
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 9. 'How many times do I have to tell you, my name is Annalyn, not Annabelle. '[/QUOTE]Well I have too many women to call them by their names. Two days ago a woman who I have known for 4 years spent the night with me and I could not for the life of me remember her name. I was thinking it was Veronica or Vanessa or something like that when in fact it was Angelica. So to keep it simple I call everyone by the customary term of endearment for their particular country or region. In Spanish speaking countries: mi amor. Brazil: meu bem. Thailand: teerak. USA: baby. In every country I will use "sexy" interchangeably.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 8. 'I thought you said you arrived yesterday. How come your ticket over there says you arrived 4 days ago? '[/QUOTE]Evidence bro? No evidence, no charge. As soon as you step foot on the plane your boarding pass should go into the first garbage can that you pass.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 7. 'No, we have never been to this restaurant before. I don't like Japanese food. '[/QUOTE]Are you sure? Yes, I think you are right. That was me and _____ (insert name of wingman).
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 6. 'Any reason why there is this damp spot here on my side of the bed? '[/QUOTE]You did not perform damage control? If you can not get rid of a wet spot then make sure you have a wet towel around.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 5. 'You don't remember! We slept together two years ago! My profile name then was Jasmine. '[/QUOTE]Well I am old. I can't remember like I used to. Maybe if you would have let me make a movie I would have remembered.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 4. 'Why are there long strands of black hair on the floor of your shower? '[/QUOTE]Another damage control issue. It is a pain in the ass getting all of that hair up. I have to do it daily in my room in Pattaya, but it comes with the territory. And just when you think you have them all up another one rears its ugly head.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 3. 'In your mobile phone why am I listed as CEB Dia 21 Marilou2 virg? '[/QUOTE]Letting a woman near your private personal things are an absolute no no. I slipped once by going over a woman's brand new house sloppy drunk and passing out in her hallway (plus vomiting there in my sleep). She got my cell phone (which would have remained in the car if I was sober) out of the holder and went through the texts. All of them happened to be in Portuguese and Spanish, but how the fuck was I to know she could read Spanish? The first time a woman attempts to go near your book, computer, phone, etc. You raise your voice saying,"Negative" or "Don't touch my shit."
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 2. 'There is a (sanitary) pad in your waste-basket. So you have the mens at the moment? '[/QUOTE]Another damage control issue. Your wastebaskets should be completely empty before you bring a new woman on premises.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1175967]No 1. (In the bedroom) 'Oh didn't I tell you before, I'm bakla (a ladyboy) '[/QUOTE]I'll have to let you school ME on this one!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1176036]Another damage control issue. It is a pain in the ass getting all of that hair up. I have to do it daily in my room in Pattaya, but it comes with the territory. And just when you think you have them all up another one rears its ugly head.[/QUOTE]I agree, getting rid of long black hair is a pain in the ass. Its everywhere, what annoys me the most is that women lose a ridiculous amount of hair yet it all grows back! While we only lose a few here and there and go bald anyway! So unfair haha
As for phone messages, if its something delicate, I delete it as soon as I read it. And set your phone not to save sent messages at all.
[QUOTE=Willie Wonker;1176021]This is EXACTLY the problem. How do you get rid of them without being a total prick about it? Anybody have advice on this point?[/QUOTE]I'm still not understanding guys wanting to play with the emotions, minds, and bodies of non-pros when so many pros are available. That is really low down. Maybe it's just me, but what's wrong with keeping someone as a friend? Most regular women fall off through normal attrition anyway (to answer your question). But it seems that you want to fuck them fast and ditch them even faster.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1175931]I'm sure that your post will, as before generate many non believers. So let me ask a question.
How do you know that they are virgin. I've bonked many virgins over the years and could never say at exactly what moment during the penetration that little hymen actually burst.
So if I can't actually tell when I'm physically inside a girl, how can a guy on cam know that she was actually a virgin in the first place.
I think possibly, these girls are telling you what you want to hear." Sure Mr Member, yes of course I'm a virgin ".
Oh one additional question. Why don't you go to the Philippines. If you can do as you claim to do by voice, think how great you could be if you actually met them.[/QUOTE]About them being actual virgins you are right if there are in the phone only I could not be certain, I can only be certain of the ones I got thru webcam at the same time. For the phones only ones, there are many ways that I tried to be reassure, one of the best way to know is when they go crazy when you show them how to masturbate and they reach they first climax. My thing is make them cum twice without penetration, then the rest with finger insertion. Usually after the 2nd cum, they are ready to try more. Also they do scream when they push the 2 fingers inside, but you have to almost order to do it in the phone while they still hot and horny. After they pop it, I asked them if they have something in their finger and if they tell me that they have blood (I make sure they are not in their period first) , then I tell them that they just gave me their virginity. Some of the cry, some of them are surprise, but all continue to push in and out even if it hurts because they do feel good as they do it and I promise them that next time it won't hurt.
For the virgins I got in real life, It is usually when I am pushing in and I getting resistant and then it just pop and she scream a little. I do try to make them very wet first by DAY and to verify virginity. I do feel when I am all inside her.
On cam you can tell by asking them to be very close to the cam and asking them to open both lips (Internal and external) using both of her hands.
Yes maybe they are telling me what they want me to hear, but I talk to them long enough to determine if they are scammers or real. Now. I m not perfect, so they may have the best of me, but I don't think so.
I been ONLY one time to Manila, the best time ever and I did get a few while I was there (virg and not virg). I currently don't have a reason to go there. I been more than once in Lima Peru and thanks to Dave, it has been the best trips ever only 2nd to filipines. The third best would be Thailand which I visited 2 times. I been to other places Brasil, Panama, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Argentina, Mexico, Guatemala, Poland, UK, France, Singapore, China and Japan. Of all Phillipines, Peru and Thailand are my favorites in that order. I got started with the asian pretties thru ASFO. Good friends there that give me many advices.
Currently I have 3 cam gf and 2 phone only. 4 of them were virgins. Getting ready to renew them.
I KNOW you guys think I am just making stories, but. What can I do, I can talk about this with others except people in the board. Oh well. Good luck to all, I just be quiet for now on.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1176046]I agree, getting rid of long black hair is a pain in the ass. Its everywhere, what annoys me the most is that women lose a ridiculous amount of hair yet it all grows back! While we only lose a few here and there and go bald anyway! So unfair haha.[/QUOTE]Scientific fact that a woman who has given birth can often lose an enormous amount of hair every day and it just keeps on growing. Meanwhile that hair falls on every floor everywhere.
[quote=member #1088; 1176196]about them being actual virgins you are right if there are in the phone only i could not be certain, i can only be certain of the ones i got thru webcam at the same time. for the phones only ones, there are many ways that i tried to be reassure, one of the best way to know is when they go crazy when you show them how to masturbate and they reach they first climax. my thing is make them cum twice without penetration, then the rest with finger insertion. usually after the 2nd cum, they are ready to try more. also they do scream when they push the 2 fingers inside, but you have to almost order to do it in the phone while they still hot and horny. after they pop it, i asked them if they have something in their finger and if they tell me that they have blood (i make sure they are not in their period first) , then i tell them that they just gave me their virginity. some of the cry, some of them are surprise, but all continue to push in and out even if it hurts because they do feel good as they do it and i promise them that next time it won't hurt.
for the virgins i got in real life, it is usually when i am pushing in and i getting resistant and then it just pop and she scream a little. i do try to make them very wet first by day and to verify virginity. i do feel when i am all inside her.
on cam you can tell by asking them to be very close to the cam and asking them to open both lips (internal and external) using both of her hands.
yes maybe they are telling me what they want me to hear, but i talk to them long enough to determine if they are scammers or real. now. i m not perfect, so they may have the best of me, but i don't think so.
i been only one time to manila, the best time ever and i did get a few while i was there (virg and not virg). i currently don't have a reason to go there. i been more than once in lima peru and thanks to dave, it has been the best trips ever only 2nd to filipines. the third best would be thailand which i visited 2 times. i been to other places brasil, panama, costa rica, ecuador, argentina, mexico, guatemala, poland, uk, france, singapore, china and japan. off all phillipines, peru and thailand are my favorites in that order. i got started with the asian pretties thru asfo. good friends there that give me many advices.
currently i have 3 cam gf and 2 phone only. 4 of them were virgins. getting ready to renew them.
i know you guys think i am just making stories, but. what can i do, i can talk about this with others except people in the board. oh well. good luck to all, i just be quiet for now on.[/quote]i have made a concerted effort to find virgins, as i have never fucked one. but, in the places i monger (brazil and dr) , the virgins are always ****. i am not interested in **** under any circumstance.
i have been to manila, and did not meet any virgins there either. maybe you could tell us how to find a virgin who is over the age of 18. that would be a real service.
f
[quote=forest; 1176204]i have made a concerted effort to find virgins, as i have never fucked one. but, in the places i monger (brazil and dr) , the virgins are always ****. i am not interested in **** under any circumstance.
i have been to manila, and did not meet any virgins there either. maybe you could tell us how to find a virgin who is over the age of 18. that would be a real service.
f[/quote]you are not missing anything, believe me. virgin means she is no good in bed, has dreams of prince on a white mercedes, and she won't enjoy her first sex cause its going to hurt.
however if you are still eager, just go to an angeles or burgos girly bar and ask for a "cherry girl". she might not sleep with you right away, get her phone number, romance her for a bit. then do it.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1176206]You are not missing anything, believe me. Virgin means she is no good in bed, has dreams of prince on a white mercedes, and she won't enjoy her first sex cause its going to hurt.
However if you are still eager, just go to an angeles or burgos girly bar and ask for a "cherry girl". She might not sleep with you right away, get her phone number, romance her for a bit. Then do it.[/QUOTE]I quite agree about virgins, they sex is not really good.
I just keep finding them but in real it has been a dissapointed until you train them. In the phone it has been kind of curious, beause I am trying to get phone sex (better than no sex, I live in the USA, so is limited here with the princess unless you are young and fit :P which I am not)
I would say get a virgin 1-2 days, look forward to only fuck maybe 1 or twice.
Let them heal for a week or 2.
Come back and train them well. Insert in mouth, pussy and ass.
Then after you get them the way you want them, then they would be ok, BUT if you don't have the time.
Don't do it.
AND YES, check for age ALWAYS, RUN AWAY, tell them any story, but wait until they are 18. I make sure they show me their id in cam. :)
I have to run lots of times when after finally getting the age of the girl, they are not legal and then, sorry but NOT.
Here is an example of a very explicit profile on DIA.
Tranzexual.
Pity that so many of the best looking pics on DIA turn out to be "women" who are off limits to most of us
Girl from Cebu looking for male company and does not want any money, gifts or promises of marriage.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/flora_tabura.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Mortman; 1176280]Girl from Cebu looking for male company and does not want any money, gifts or promises of marriage.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/flora_tabura.html[/url][/QUOTE]Well, I fell for that one. I popped open the link and saw a 71-year-old wilted flower. Dude, my lunch is all over the floor. Can you send over a cleaning crew?
Raz
If its ok for 7 bishops to want to swan around their provinces in nice new cars (then apologise when found out!) its probably ok for serious mongers to adopt a new Christian type persona, at least until you have got the devoted girl into bed.
[url]http://christian-filipina.com/searchmatch.php[/url]
Funny profile of the day.
I want to meet a Male.
With age from 30 to 46.
And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
I don't like mean people.
Also I don't like a man that likes also a man. Cock.
I have bad experience with my ex bf.
I find it out that he like also lady boy with cock.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1176046]I agree, getting rid of long black hair is a pain in the ass. Its everywhere, what annoys me the most is that women lose a ridiculous amount of hair yet it all grows back! While we only lose a few here and there and go bald anyway! So unfair haha.
As for phone messages, if its something delicate, I delete it as soon as I read it. And set your phone not to save sent messages at all.[/QUOTE]One thing that should be the top 10 monger list should be packaging tape. Not the expensive one but the short fat sticky stuff. That is the best stuff and best way to remove that long black hair from the floors, beds counters and showers.
[QUOTE=RasSpewtin; 1176287]Well, I fell for that one. I popped open the link and saw a 71-year-old wilted flower. Dude, my lunch is all over the floor. Can you send over a cleaning crew?
Raz[/QUOTE]Sorry just my British humour. Actually (don't ask me why) I did a search on DIA today specifying an age range of 56-99 out of curiosity and I was really quite surprised to find many young girls on there who had mistakenly enetered the wrong age when setting up their profile. Now if you are like me and you search using age as one of your filters, you will miss these girls. My bet is they don't get hit on very much since (if you are like me) I usually search on an upper age limit of 30
[quote=forest; 1176204]i have made a concerted effort to find virgins, as i have never fucked one. but, in the places i monger (brazil and dr) , the virgins are always ****. i am not interested in **** under any circumstance.
i have been to manila, and did not meet any virgins there either. maybe you could tell us how to find a virgin who is over the age of 18. that would be a real service.
f[/quote]this is funny to me because i live in cebu and my friends all over the world nicknamed me "the cherry picker". i do not search virgins and honestly i turn down most because it is stressful to both and it most of the time you can't get it in even with a crow bar.
normally when girls tell me they are virgins i ask them to maybe try another first because i do not want to see the pain if the pain don't have pleasure.
i have probably had about 20 virgins most never told me and of course i never asked. i believed most of them because of the big pool of blood and over an hour trying to get it inside.
some i questioned right after and of course it was "just only one other guy"
maybe i can give you all of my referrals. lol
[QUOTE=Andre007;1176320]One thing that should be the top 10 monger list should be packaging tape. Not the expensive one but the short fat sticky stuff. That is the best stuff and best way to remove that long black hair from the floors, beds counters and showers.[/QUOTE]Or the wide based floor sweeper (no idea of the terminology here!) that I use on my wooden floors. Collects almost all. Of course I always enlist the help of the girls themselves to help me clean the bed of tell tale hairs on the basis that its her hair, so she should help to remove it. They usually agree blesss them.
Given that women can smell and see a foreign hair from 800 metres I also check the bath drain with some tweezers and have removed from very long hairs from their before. Not to mention checking the shower drain for the hair of the girls I've shaved LOL. The interesting thing is I do a way better job of cleaning this stuff than the cleaning person employed. Possibly because I have a lot more to lose if found out. LOL
I never laugh so hard in my life.
[QUOTE=KongKing; 1175967]It may either be a sign of too many chat-mates, or my growing senility, but here are my top 10 most embarrassing chat-mate comments.
Oh, honey I buy you so many things that I really don't remember, but if you like them before, I give you same now.
No 10. 'Don't you remember, last time you gave me some lovely ear-rings pasalubong; it was not Cadbury's chocolate. '
I tried NEVER to call a chick my her name, and if she is with me, I would have a big sign, I love you (INSERT NAME OF LADY) , as a surprise to her when she come to my room, in the restaurant I have to keep thinking, remember name is you want to fuck.
No 9. 'How many times do I have to tell you, my name is Annalyn, not Annabelle. '
Everything that is not necessary is either trash (outside the hotel / aprt) , under lock / key.
No 8. 'I thought you said you arrived yesterday. How come your ticket over there says you arrived 4 days ago? '
Oh, maybe it was it my sister (insert fake name here) , you also very smart like her.
No 7. 'No, we have never been to this restaurant before. I don't like Japanese food. '
LOL. Always get new sheets between chicks, tip well the lady who clean up the room and tell her that sheet need changing.
No 6. 'Any reason why there is this damp spot here on my side of the bed? '
I am sorry honey, maybe you remember other guy, but I won't look down at you because of it. You are mine now and it is ok with me.
No 5. 'You don't remember! We slept together two years ago! My profile name then was Jasmine. '
Oh honey, I told the cleaning lady about it, there were there when I got here, but she is lazy, I will complain right now with manager and get someone to clean this up.
No 4. 'Why are there long strands of black hair on the floor of your shower? '
I never list woman by name but for example as male name of lady, Luisa would be Luis, and I only put their name as the only female name in the directory next to mom and sister1 and sister 2.
No 3. 'In your mobile phone why am I listed as CEB Dia 21 Marilou2 virg? '
Look 4.
No 2. 'There is a (sanitary) pad in your waste-basket. So you have the mens at the moment? '
HAHAHA, I hope I never have to be in that situation.
No 1. (In the bedroom) 'Oh didn't I tell you before, I'm bakla (a ladyboy) '[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1176295]If its ok for 7 bishops to want to swan around their provinces in nice new cars (then apologise when found out!) its probably ok for serious mongers to adopt a new Christian type persona, at least until you have got the devoted girl into bed.
[url]http://christian-filipina.com/searchmatch.php[/url][/QUOTE]You monger guys are sure to leave no stone unturned.
[QUOTE=Andre007]One thing that should be the top 10 monger list should be packaging tape. Not the expensive one but the short fat sticky stuff. That is the best stuff and best way to remove that long black hair from the floors, beds counters and showers.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. That will definitely be the method I use from now on.
Hi can I purchase pre paid local new sim card as well as broad band / USB stick at Manila airport, if yes which one you recomand for unlimited use of broadband data stick
Thanks a lot in advance for help.
TMT
[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1176554]Hi can I purchase pre paid local new sim card as well as broad band / USB stick at Manila airport, if yes which one you recomand for unlimited use of broadband data stick
Thanks a lot in advance for help.
TMT[/QUOTE]Yes. You can buy these easily. I strongly recommend you buy at the airport. The staff there are better at dealing with foreigners etc and it saves you the hassle of findng an office downtown and waiting in line. Prices are all the same.
I assume terminal 1? Look for a very small booth or just open counter. I got mine from just outside the final customs check, inside the building and just before the taxis. near the money changrs Terminal 3 she is outside in a small booth. Terminal 2 I forgot but I guarantee you can find the same.
Globe and Smart are the two big brands. None as good as say, Singapore, US or Australian services. Google their sites and look for Globe Tattoo or Smart Bro for latest deals and prices on usb wifi
Experts will tell you about minor differences between the two. I have used both and can't tell enough difference to bother me. Well yes if I lived there but not on vacation time.
Expect to pay 1100 php for the usb stick including an amount of credit-and get her to load another 300. And 500 for your phone and you are all set up for under $50.
If you are a blackberry user they have good enough prepaid plans for 1, 7 or 30 days.
They have data deals for your wifi stick of 24hr unlimited for a very small cost – but that service kept dropping out. When I went back to pay per minute it was great. (well ok)
So many guys here complain about hotel Wi-Fi service. So buying your own wife usb stick is great. You can use it at hotel, coffee shop or airport you are on vacation so why bother chasing free Wi-Fi to save not much?
Ps. Please ensure your phone is unlocked . Can use any network. You can get them unlocked downtown or buy a cheap local phone, one you odnt care about if its stolen. For about $120 you can buy a dual sim dual active phone. So you can have local and home sim inside the same phone.
I hope this helps.
Hi Radoboy,
Thanks a lot for yr detailed well informative and prompt reply with in 10 min of my posting, I really appreciate that, I am sure that it will also help all others.
Once again thanks for yr help.
TMT.
[QUOTE=Radoboy; 1176566]Yes. You can buy these easily. I strongly recommend you buy at the airport. The staff there are better at dealing with foreigners etc and it saves you the hassle of findng an office downtown and waiting in line. Prices are all the same.
I assume terminal 1? Look for a very small booth or just open counter. I got mine from just outside the final customs check, inside the building and just before the taxis. Near the money changrs Terminal 3 she is outside in a small booth. Terminal 2 I forgot but I guarantee you can find the same.
Globe and Smart are the two big brands. None as good as say, Singapore, US or Australian services. Google their sites and look for Globe Tattoo or Smart Bro for latest deals and prices on usb wifi.
Experts will tell you about minor differences between the two. I have used both and can't tell enough difference to bother me. Well yes if I lived there but not on vacation time.
Expect to pay 1100 php for the usb stick including an amount of credit-and get her to load another 300. And 500 for your phone and you are all set up for under $50.
If you are a blackberry user they have good enough prepaid plans for 1, 7 or 30 days.
They have data deals for your wifi stick of 24hr unlimited for a very small cost – but that service kept dropping out. When I went back to pay per minute it was great. (well ok)
So many guys here complain about hotel Wi-Fi service. So buying your own wife usb stick is great. You can use it at hotel, coffee shop or airport you are on vacation so why bother chasing free Wi-Fi to save not much?
Ps. Please ensure your phone is unlocked. Can use any network. You can get them unlocked downtown or buy a cheap local phone, one you odnt care about if its stolen. For about $120 you can buy a dual sim dual active phone. So you can have local and home sim inside the same phone.
I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Radoboy; 1176566]Yes. You can buy these easily. I strongly recommend you buy at the airport. The staff there are better at dealing with foreigners etc and it saves you the hassle of findng an office downtown and waiting in line. Prices are all the same.
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Ps. Please ensure your phone is unlocked. Can use any network. You can get them unlocked downtown or buy a cheap local phone, one you odnt care about if its stolen. For about $120 you can buy a dual sim dual active phone. So you can have local and home sim inside the same phone.[/QUOTE]Great post Radoboy.
Extremely helpful.
I have lived here for 14 years and you told me stuff I didn't know LOL.
Just goes to show you CAN teach an old dog new tricks.
[quote=radoboy; 1176566]yes. you can buy these easily. i strongly recommend you buy at the airport. the staff there are better at dealing with foreigners etc and it saves you the hassle of findng an office downtown and waiting in line. prices are all the same.
i assume terminal 1? look for a very small booth or just open counter. i got mine from just outside the final customs check, inside the building and just before the taxis. near the money changrs terminal 3 she is outside in a small booth. terminal 2 i forgot but i guarantee you can find the same.
globe and smart are the two big brands. none as good as say, singapore, us or australian services. google their sites and look for globe tattoo or smart bro for latest deals and prices on usb wifi.
experts will tell you about minor differences between the two. i have used both and can't tell enough difference to bother me. well yes if i lived there but not on vacation time.
expect to pay 1100 php for the usb stick including an amount of credit-and get her to load another 300. and 500 for your phone and you are all set up for under $50.
if you are a blackberry user they have good enough prepaid plans for 1, 7 or 30 days.
they have data deals for your wifi stick of 24hr unlimited for a very small cost – but that service kept dropping out. when i went back to pay per minute it was great. (well ok)
so many guys here complain about hotel wi-fi service. so buying your own wife usb stick is great. you can use it at hotel, coffee shop or airport you are on vacation so why bother chasing free wi-fi to save not much?
ps. please ensure your phone is unlocked. can use any network. you can get them unlocked downtown or buy a cheap local phone, one you odnt care about if its stolen. for about $120 you can buy a dual sim dual active phone. so you can have local and home sim inside the same phone.
i hope this helps.[/quote]good info. but what you didn't mention is that in both smart and globe the speed is painfully slow. i've tried and endured endless connections that suddenly closed, lost emails etc.
starbucks in manila locations probably offer the best / fastest ways to get online in that they charge p100 for a one hour card, but at least the speed can handle emails with large attachments.
if you are just doing email chat with dia conquests past present and future or ym chats, then the usb sticks will work.
but if doing non mongering work stuff that involves emails with multiple attachments etc, speed of smart / globe downloads will have you pulling out what hair you might have left.
Cute girl from Tagged (as we are always showing DIA girls ). Found her on ISG then she added her Tagged link on her profile.
As you can see, she lives in crowded place that I wouldn't want to live in. Filled with the normal clutter or a typical Filipina home. She looks ok except from the rear. If you follow the photos she clearly then she gets an upgrade in accommodation and even problaby got an overnight with her best female friend for company. More overnights in other hotels plus she may have met WR given the dog collar.
Anyway, some punter or two has enjoyed her company. So lets put our hands together for Dafnie. She can be found at
[url]http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5418810130[/url]
I can not for the life of me write this way.
Hi GudmoRning I just woke up from bed.
Thank you very Much about what happen Last niGht I'm so Proud that I have given you my virginity. And thanks for teaching me how to do it. Its my 1st time to reach heaven. Wen I Touch my tits down to my pussy. It really feels Good. I felt that I am floatinG.
At first it hurts wen I push it reallt strong my two lilltle finGers inside. But wen I'm doing it again and again. The Hurt is gone. Thank you very much till next time. I need again. Maybe you call tonGT
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1176692]Cute girl from Tagged (as we are always showing DIA girls ). Found her on ISG then she added her Tagged link on her profile.
As you can see, she lives in crowded place that I wouldn't want to live in. Filled with the normal clutter or a typical Filipina home. She looks ok except from the rear. If you follow the photos she clearly then she gets an upgrade in accommodation and even problaby got an overnight with her best female friend for company. More overnights in other hotels plus she may have met WR given the dog collar.
Anyway, some punter or two has enjoyed her company. So lets put our hands together for Dafnie. She can be found at.
[url]http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5418810130[/url][/QUOTE]Yep. She can also be found on DIA and occasionally advertises on craigs list. Had her 18 months ago for 1000 pesos short time and posted pics of her in the photo gallery a while back. She is great fun and a decent shag.
[quote=forest; 1176204]i have made a concerted effort to find virgins, as i have never fucked one. but, in the places i monger (brazil and dr) , the virgins are always ****. i am not interested in **** under any circumstance.
i have been to manila, and did not meet any virgins there either. maybe you could tell us how to find a virgin who is over the age of 18. that would be a real service.
f[/quote]your best bet is a province girl fresh to manila as a domestic in an auntie's house. however, these do not stay virgin for long. the slick talking city pinoys get to them in a matter of weeks. unless you're seeking a wife you might not want to put up with the trouble of finding and courting virgin girls. in the end it will be some difficultly getting your dick in, screams, pleads and ruined hotel sheets and towels. then she will be like any other girl after the soreness goes away. then you have to deal with the emotional issues you created.
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Beginning some preliminary research on compiling a fresh stable of fun fillies to keep me amused and entertained on my next long and lonely (LOL!) sojourn in Manila, and noted this cute little fuckbunny on Tagged. I guess that it is reasonable to assume when girls post sexy and suggestive photos of themselves, that they are really up for it.
Is that milk in the bottom of her wine glass or has she been playing one of my favourite slurpy games?
She claims to be a student. Anyone recognise her or had the pleasure of teaching her a thing or two?
[quote=cunning stunt;1177391]she claims to be a student. anyone recognise her or had the pleasure of teaching her a thing or two?[/quote]i recognise the photo. but thats all, no recollection who, where or how. after you meet over 100 people the faces, names and locations become a blur of haze. have 7 "annes" on my phonebook and 10 "jens".12 "lyns".
check if she's ****, looks young.
Looks good. Do you have a Tagged Link for this one?
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1177391]Beginning some preliminary research on compiling a fresh stable of fun fillies to keep me amused and entertained on my next long and lonely (LOL!) sojourn in Manila, and noted this cute little fuckbunny on Tagged. I guess that it is reasonable to assume when girls post sexy and suggestive photos of themselves, that they are really up for it.
Is that milk in the bottom of her wine glass or has she been playing one of my favourite slurpy games?
She claims to be a student. Anyone recognise her or had the pleasure of teaching her a thing or two?[/QUOTE]
FF to DIA girl." Hi, this pic of you looks nice. Do you have other photos that I may view"
DIA Girl reply " No, I have a photos ".
Did she mean no she has no photos,
Did she mean yes she has one photo (as in A photo)
Did she mean " I have photos" but replied No in error.
Sometimes DIA should come with something similar to Google Translate but software engineered for the confused monger.
Probably a scammer and / or LB, but in the offchance she isn't:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/dawn+santos.Html[/url].
Let us know if you managed to tap that.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1177985]Probably a scammer and / or LB, but in the offchance she isn't:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/dawn+santos.Html[/url]
Let us know if you managed to tap that.[/QUOTE]The photo looks fake. Draw your own conclusions.
Hi gents,
I am planning my trip to phils and have been talking to a few girls and one from DIA has offered to tour me around Manila, in her words taking me to some great parties and good clean fun.
From reading tons of reports here this normally is a euphemism for being willing to sleep with me.
Is this accurate generally?
[QUOTE=Whatsgoingon; 1178308]Hi gents,
I am planning my trip to phils and have been talking to a few girls and one from DIA has offered to tour me around Manila, in her words taking me to some great parties and good clean fun.
From reading tons of reports here this normally is a euphemism for being willing to sleep with me.
Is this accurate generally?[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. If you plan to shag her it would be useful to determine this first. Just be up front about it. Ask her if you should book two rooms or one. She may say,"it's up to you." Then ask her if you should book twin beds or a large double bed where you can sexercise her.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1177985]Probably a scammer and / or LB, but in the offchance she isn't:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/dawn+santos.Html[/url]
Let us know if you managed to tap that.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Python75]The photo looks fake. Draw your own conclusions.[/QUOTE]Yes, fake or even a L / B. This is what she wrote at the bottom of her profile:
I want to meet a Male
With age from 18 to 80
And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
A guy who is honest sweet and caring
But, if she was a real girl.
Well, who would not be "honest" enough to say what a fine looking fuck and bang that "sweet" body of hers and then not "care" if she demands compensation. LOL
[QUOTE=Whatsgoingon; 1178308]Hi gents,
I am planning my trip to phils and have been talking to a few girls and one from DIA has offered to tour me around Manila, in her words taking me to some great parties and good clean fun.
From reading tons of reports here this normally is a euphemism for being willing to sleep with me.
Is this accurate generally?[/QUOTE]Is this accurate generally?
Hard to say. There are some general things about safety you need to know in Manila. It is possible you will get into physical trouble if she takes you to local parties or party with her friends.
Phi males drink a lot and easily start fighting sometimes with guns.
Just be on the safe side and take her to many bars and disco which foreigners frequent. Being a daredevil in Manila is not wise.
Next thing you need to know is irrespective of how many people are there you pay for everything. This could easily be very expensive for you.
IMHO do not be eager to fit into the local scene. Just try to get her into your room, have fun and ofcourse let her take you to sightseeing places.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1178413]Is this accurate generally?
Hard to say. There are some general things about safety you need to know in Manila. It is possible you will get into physical trouble if she takes you to local parties or party with her friends.
IMHO do not be eager to fit into the local scene. Just try to get her into your room, have fun and ofcourse let her take you to sightseeing places.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sammon, I have been to Manila quite a lot and generally try and stick to Makati and hang out in the normal places. She mentioned parties so I will be careful. Thanks for the tips, maybe I should just stick to Havana as usual, but she is quite cute. I will ask some more probing questions. If I have any doubt I will pass
[QUOTE=Whatsgoingon;1178420]Thanks Sammon, I have been to Manila quite a lot and generally try and stick to Makati and hang out in the normal places. She mentioned parties so I will be careful. Thanks for the tips, maybe I should just stick to Havana as usual, but she is quite cute. I will ask some more probing questions. If I have any doubt I will pass[/QUOTE]On my last Manila trip, a girl I was chatting with invited me to her place. I really wasnt sure about it, and would have preferred she come to my place but she had no babysitter and had the usual one year old child in her place. I decided to go to her place, ensuring I left all valuables in my place, and only had cash in my pocket.
I got the address, had the taxi driver circle around the area first. She was waiting out side the gate and had a small clean place. I checked and made sure she locked the outer gate and inner door. We had a great night with multiple bonks and she even made me breakfast.
She came to my place the next afternoon for a repeat.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1178561]On my last Manila trip, a girl I was chatting with invited me to her place. I really wasnt sure about it, and would have preferred she come to my place but she had no babysitter and had the usual one year old child in her place. I decided to go to her place, ensuring I left all valuables in my place, and only had cash in my pocket.
I got the address, had the taxi driver circle around the area first. She was waiting out side the gate and had a small clean place. I checked and made sure she locked the outer gate and inner door. We had a great night with multiple bonks and she even made me breakfast.[/QUOTE]I know you have mentioned this one case in a few posts before FF but I think it is important to also stress that your example is a "one-off" and that you did a heap of due-diligence on the case BEFORE you visited her (as you admit).
I mention this in case newbies think that it is always OK to just go to a girl's house if she invites you. It might be, but it could also turn out to be a big mistake.
In your case it turned out well but, as Sammon says, it is not wise to be a dare-devil around some of these back-streets. I know of a guy who had a great time with a girl in Mandaluyong one night and as he emerged from her house next morning the guys sitting on the street in front of her house (you know the types) all stood up and started getting aggro towards him. He high-tailed it out of the area before it got nasty. If it had been in the evening and they had been drinking then who knows what might have happened?
I am not saying you shouldn't do it but I would stress that you need to be very sure it is going to be safe. Just think of estranged hubbies or boyfriends being tipped off you are there by jealous neighbors; mischievous landlords etc.
Pissed-off pinoys in groups with a Red Horse or two under the belt are unpredictable. They don't always restrict themselves to using bare hands either.
I went to the girls place a few times. 9 out 10 times the "place" is 3m x 4m filthy slum shack with no aircon, and 8 family members sharing 1 (really smelly) toilet. I don't know what your standards are regarding a fine night of sleep, but mine are a little higher than that!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1178561]On my last Manila trip, a girl I was chatting with invited me to her place. I really wasnt sure about it, and would have preferred she come to my place but she had no babysitter and had the usual one year old child in her place. I decided to go to her place, ensuring I left all valuables in my place, and only had cash in my pocket.
I got the address, had the taxi driver circle around the area first. She was waiting out side the gate and had a small clean place. I checked and made sure she locked the outer gate and inner door. We had a great night with multiple bonks and she even made me breakfast.
She came to my place the next afternoon for a repeat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1178668]I know you have mentioned this one case in a few posts before FF but I think it is important to also stress that your example is a "one-off" and that you did a heap of due-diligence on the case BEFORE you visited her (as you admit).
I mention this in case newbies think that it is always OK to just go to a girl's house if she invites you. .[/QUOTE]So far she has offered to guest list me in a couple of clubs that I have heard of which are high end so I can escape easily it the warning signs are there. No intention of going to her home especially as it is some way, she has offered to come up to makati and suggest I stay at the shangri la. Haha. I think I will meet her to see if she is Ms. Philippines and if not then escape quietly!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1178561]On my last Manila trip, a girl I was chatting with invited me to her place. I really wasnt sure about it, and would have preferred she come to my place but she had no babysitter and had the usual one year old child in her place. I decided to go to her place, ensuring I left all valuables in my place, and only had cash in my pocket.
I got the address, had the taxi driver circle around the area first. She was waiting out side the gate and had a small clean place. I checked and made sure she locked the outer gate and inner door. We had a great night with multiple bonks and she even made me breakfast.
She came to my place the next afternoon for a repeat.[/QUOTE]One of my GF wanted me to stay with her. I said I need to look first. I was not interested in staying there mainly because I need air-con especially for sex.
She lives in a nice gated neighbourhood with gates and security. Her place was decent. She did take extra care to clean everything hoping I will stay tgere.
But we ended up staying at my hotel. Her is an exception. Her father worked in Korea as a bar manager for a long time and bought this place. She said her family lives in the provinces and she lives alone except sometimes her family comes to town. She is going to school to become a nurse and has a job. She is a homebody, not a party person. She does not like bars. So I sneak away some nights to go to MBC but not take any girls although tempted.
Just get in the atmosphere. But the girl kept on calling me to know where I am. When I told her I am at a bar, she wantred to come there but I quickly went back to the room.
Who knows if she's for real, but Kaila G in Makati on Tagged has to be one of the hottest women I've seen on that site. Agree?
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1178670]I went to the girls place a few times. 9 out 10 times the "place" is 3m x 4m filthy slum shack with no aircon, and 8 family members sharing 1 (really smelly) toilet. I don't know what your standards are regarding a fine night of sleep, but mine are a little higher than that![/QUOTE]Hi FBA. Seems like you have already assumed thats the type of place I went. I knew I was going to a place at the back of Wack Wack and not far from Edsa but wasnt exactly sure. Neighbourhood was ok and felt safe.
Girls place was a small but clean clean clean 2 bedroom apartment, maybe 40-50 square metres, not a palace but had shower that was fine and a nice clean toilet and a happy bed. And lots of chickens outside LOL.
As Red K so correctly says, and I should have pointed out that this girl was a rare find, that I took the appropriate scoping precautions in advance, and that I know my way around Manila.
A newbie should not be getting into these type of situations as there are too many possible downsides.
[QUOTE=Whatsgoingon;1178676]So far she has offered to guest list me in a couple of clubs that I have heard of which are high end so I can escape easily it the warning signs are there. No intention of going to her home especially as it is some way, she has offered to come up to makati and suggest I stay at the shangri la. Haha. I think I will meet her to see if she is Ms. Philippines and if not then escape quietly![/QUOTE]Shangri La is a 5 star very expensive hotel here. She clearly thinks money is no object to you. Thats a bit of a warning sign to me, but feel free to indulge if you are so inclined.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1178670]I went to the girls place a few times. 9 out 10 times the "place" is 3m x 4m filthy slum shack with no aircon, and 8 family members sharing 1 (really smelly) toilet. I don't know what your standards are regarding a fine night of sleep, but mine are a little higher than that![/QUOTE]Hi FBA, you are assuing I would stay in place as you decribed. Wrong. This girls place was a small two bedroom apartment that was spotlessly clean, good shower, clean toilet, mybe 40-50 sq metres. I knew it was behind Wack Wack and not far from Edsa but wasnt totally sure of location or neighbourhood. However before going there I scoped it out and knew it should be ok. It was fine and we had a fun safe night.
However as RK correctly points out, I should say that going to a girls aprtment (especially one you have never met before) could be filled with dangers. Lucklily in this case all went well, even tho I had full "danger alert" radar on. Its certainly not receommended for newbies which thankfully I'm not.
Something clearly not right here. Virgin giving out her number and flashing the susu. Members in Dipolog might like to report.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/jardinmariafe.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1178887]Shangri La is a 5 star very expensive hotel here. She clearly thinks money is no object to you. Thats a bit of a warning sign to me, but feel free to indulge if you are so inclined.[/QUOTE]Shangri La's are expensive everywhere! Point taken and I think I have found an alternative on DIA who has already indicated her willingness to stay overnight
Chatting for all of 10 min with a 18 yo spinner about 4'5" she desides she is now my GF and coming to see me but has to bring her friend.
Me: if you bring your friend she will watch us has sex.
Her: you want to sex me?
Me: if your my gf then yes.
Her: ok but don't sex my friend.
Me: ok.
Her: if you do sex my friend you have to pay her.
Me: well ok how much she want.
Tis life in Phil
That's hilarious. Thanks for posting.
[QUOTE=Lostwodpun; 1179365]Chatting for all of 10 min with a 18 yo spinner about 4'5" she desides she is now my GF and coming to see me but has to bring her friend.
Me: if you bring your friend she will watch us has sex.
Her: you want to sex me?
Me: if your my gf then yes.
Her: ok but don't sex my friend.
Me: ok.
Her: if you do sex my friend you have to pay her.
Me: well ok how much she want.
Tis life in Phil[/QUOTE]
I can understand you might be hesitand to take her to MBC, but why not take her to a live house. Hard Rock Cafe or other places.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1178728]One of my GF wanted me to stay with her. I said I need to look first. I was not interested in staying there mainly because I need air-con especially for sex.
She lives in a nice gated neighbourhood with gates and security. Her place was decent. She did take extra care to clean everything hoping I will stay tgere.
But we ended up staying at my hotel. Her is an exception. Her father worked in Korea as a bar manager for a long time and bought this place. She said her family lives in the provinces and she lives alone except sometimes her family comes to town. She is going to school to become a nurse and has a job. She is a homebody, not a party person. She does not like bars. So I sneak away some nights to go to MBC but not take any girls although tempted.
Just get in the atmosphere. But the girl kept on calling me to know where I am. When I told her I am at a bar, she wantred to come there but I quickly went back to the room.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/SexyAmea.html[/url] I wonder if asking her what kind of fun and excitement do chubby girls like is going to get me anywhere. She has a smart ass answer to my first question.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/SexyAmea.html[/url] I wonder if asking her what kind of fun and excitement do chubby girls like is going to get me anywhere. She has a smart ass answer to my first question.
[QUOTE=X Man;1179412]I can understand you might be hesitand to take her to MBC, but why not take her to a live house. Hard Rock Cafe or other places.[/QUOTE]I have taken her to disco places but she is definitely a homebody. Loves to get fucked all day and night but not the type to go out.
Even when I took her to nice restaurents she wants only basic Phi food. It is good that she is a cheap date. She lives comfortably thanks to her father. So I guess her mentality has not changed to.
Money grabbing and besides she hopes to be a nurse and earn decent money.
Ofcourse she is looking for a foreigner husband. But I made it clear right from the begining I am not the marrying type.
I know a woman that graduated from nursing school in May of 2011. She didn't have the money to take the review course so she didn't sit for the boards. All of that is documented. She says several of her friends are in the same situation but got jobs at a public hospital in Cebu without a license. She is asking me for 8,000 php to get her paperwork in order to be legally employed. Apparently this reqires NBI certification, physical exam, postal I'd, etc. Has anybody ever heard of somebody not taking the nursing exam and working in a public hospital? I have no problem sending 8, 000 but this sounds fishy.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1179850]I know a woman that graduated from nursing school in May of 2011. She didn't have the money to take the review course so she didn't sit for the boards. All of that is documented. She says several of her friends are in the same situation but got jobs at a public hospital in Cebu without a license. She is asking me for 8,000 php to get her paperwork in order to be legally employed. Apparently this reqires NBI certification, physical exam, postal I'd, etc. Has anybody ever heard of somebody not taking the nursing exam and working in a public hospital? I have no problem sending 8, 000 but this sounds fishy.[/QUOTE]Maybe what she meant is that they are working as volunteers nurses aides, cleaners, etc to get "hospital experience" and possibly create a network friends to help with gainful work later. But I really doubt they are working as a nurse without licence as there are many legal nurses in the Philippines without jobs.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1179850]I know a woman that graduated from nursing school in May of 2011. She didn't have the money to take the review course so she didn't sit for the boards. All of that is documented. She says several of her friends are in the same situation but got jobs at a public hospital in Cebu without a license. She is asking me for 8,000 php to get her paperwork in order to be legally employed. Apparently this reqires NBI certification, physical exam, postal I'd, etc. Has anybody ever heard of somebody not taking the nursing exam and working in a public hospital? I have no problem sending 8, 000 but this sounds fishy.[/QUOTE]It is true that before employment there is a background check and supporting documents. In some cases they need to deposit security money in a escow account in a bank. I guess this is to.
Ensure that they do not steal money or other things and vanish. Fees for examinations are expensive by Phi standards.
Newly graduated nurses have to undergo a kind of training before they can work independently. Maybe she talking about this. It is like residency training position for doctors.
However sending money is entirely upto you if you feel it as a donation only. Most often it is better to meet and like her before sending money.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1179850]I know a woman that graduated from nursing school in May of 2011. She didn't have the money to take the review course so she didn't sit for the boards. All of that is documented. She says several of her friends are in the same situation but got jobs at a public hospital in Cebu without a license. She is asking me for 8,000 php to get her paperwork in order to be legally employed. Apparently this reqires NBI certification, physical exam, postal I'd, etc. Has anybody ever heard of somebody not taking the nursing exam and working in a public hospital? I have no problem sending 8, 000 but this sounds fishy.[/QUOTE]The Philippines has lots of sham nursing programs whose graduates are poorly prepared for the exam. Even if everything else in the story were straight-forward, this potential investment is far from a sure thing. I concur with the advice to get to know her better and do a little quizzing about the actual program of study she completed. Like,"what percentage of your school's graduates pass the exam"? And maybe go online to check out the school for yourself.
I was reading today a report about google+ that discussed how people put their online social contacts into categories. And then I looked at my Yahoo list of contacts. Quite a funny read!
- !New_arrivals_not_camverified.
- Pinays_met
- Pinays_prospects
- suss_trannies
- suss_scammers
- suss_cherries
- pro_hookers
- crying_about_x
- childish_timewasters
- who_the_f_is_this
- real_friends_oz
- coworkers
- real_friends_asia
Sounds familiar? :)
[QUOTE=Slippery;1179850]Has anybody ever heard of somebody not taking the nursing exam and working in a public hospital? I have no problem sending 8, 000 but this sounds fishy.[/QUOTE]Its 100% complete BS, sorry to say. If you don't sit for, and pass, your board exams you are not an RN. Its that simple. DO NOT give money for this bogus nonsense. She may be being scammed or she may be scamming you directly, you can never tell.
AV
[QUOTE=Slippery;1179850]I know a woman that graduated from nursing school in May of 2011. She didn't have the money to take the review course so she didn't sit for the boards. All of that is documented. She says several of her friends are in the same situation but got jobs at a public hospital in Cebu without a license. She is asking me for 8,000 php to get her paperwork in order to be legally employed. Apparently this reqires NBI certification, physical exam, postal I'd, etc. Has anybody ever heard of somebody not taking the nursing exam and working in a public hospital? I have no problem sending 8, 000 but this sounds fishy.[/QUOTE]You may want to do some research into the Nursing exam scam that occurred in Phils 2-3 years back. I can't recall all the details but basically the exam questions were leaked online so everyone knew the questions and of course the answers.
The scam was discovered when there was an amazing 100% pass rate.
The ramifications were that Filipina nurses who had been offered jobs in Ireland, UK, Middle East etc had to wait until they could resit the exam, to get their contracts re. Processed etc.
My point here being that the quality of nursing qualifications isn't worth that much. Enough to get an overseas job but it really doesn't mean she's a "qualified" nurse, although without a doubt she will have a nurses caring skills.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1179850]I know a woman that graduated from nursing school in May of 2011. She didn't have the money to take the review course so she didn't sit for the boards. All of that is documented. She says several of her friends are in the same situation but got jobs at a public hospital in Cebu without a license. She is asking me for 8,000 php to get her paperwork in order to be legally employed. Apparently this reqires NBI certification, physical exam, postal I'd, etc. Has anybody ever heard of somebody not taking the nursing exam and working in a public hospital? I have no problem sending 8, 000 but this sounds fishy.[/QUOTE].
One of my Phil friends is also a student who graduated from uni in Cebu in May 2011. She then spent a 6 weeks doing the Review Course and took the Board exams in June. She is now waiting for the results. She tells me that the pass rate is about 30% and that no hospitals will employ them until they have found out whether they have passed or not in around a month's time. Without taking the Board exams these girls cannot legally get a job in a hospital as a registered nurse. Of course they can get other jobs and maybe voluntary jobs and would need various bit s of paperwork for that, however 8000P would sound too high for he necessary paperwork for a regular job (2000P sounds more like it.). I think she is just trying it on to get you to send what would be regarded as a nice sum of money.
I can give you the email of my friend if you would like to ask her directly. She's a very honest and straightforward girl and non scammer.
I also looked into the costs involved in getting what I will call a "work permit." 8, 000 was indeed about 3 times as high as I had added up. When I brought this up she said that a friend did it for 5, 000 with a fixer and I just could not get any satisfactory answers, particularly in the context of working in a hospital as an unlicensed nurse and earning 15, 000 a month. She was told that she will get nothing until such time as I receive satisfactory documentation of all costs plus verifiable employment letter. I also blocked her for an undetermined period of time, first as a lesson and secondly, to avoid frequent and persistent inquiries from her in this regard.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1180550]I also looked into the costs involved in getting what I will call a "work permit." 8, 000 was indeed about 3 times as high as I had added up. When I brought this up she said that a friend did it for 5, 000 with a fixer and I just could not get any satisfactory answers, particularly in the context of working in a hospital as an unlicensed nurse and earning 15, 000 a month. She was told that she will get nothing until such time as I receive satisfactory documentation of all costs plus verifiable employment letter. I also blocked her for an undetermined period of time, first as a lesson and secondly, to avoid frequent and persistent inquiries from her in this regard.[/QUOTE]A newly qualified nurse with Board Exam passes can expect a fierce struggle to get a job paying 8000P a month and may well have to work for free for a while just to clock up some experience. 15000P a month is dream land for a newly qualified Phils nurse let alone one without the Exam Board passes, unless of course she is planning on offering some extra services LOL
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1178913]Something clearly not right here. Virgin giving out her number and flashing the susu. Members in Dipolog might like to report.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/jardinmariafe.html[/url][/QUOTE]Looks like Ladyboy possibilities to me!
[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1180440].
She tells me that the pass rate is about 30% and that no hospitals will employ them until they have found out whether they have passed or not in around a month's time. Without taking the Board exams these girls cannot legally get a job in a hospital as a registered nurse. .[/QUOTE]It's not the pass mark that is 30.
It is that only 30% of examinees pass the Licensure Examination.
Same for teachers. Last year 60, 000 took the test. 49, 000 failed (or, being positive. 11, 000 passed). That's 49, 000 so-called "qualified graduate teachers" who have studied for 4 years to get a degree and cannot teach because they cannot pass the License Test.
There are many many low quality training institutions in the Phils. Many institutions have not had a passer for 5 years and yet they are STILL allowed to accept students and take their money.
If anyone is sending WU or other money to students, find out how many graduates pass the License Exams each year from their institution. The pass rates are equally bad for Law, Engineering, Nursing, Teaching. Your caring gesture might not guarantee a job at the end of it.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1180602]It's not the pass mark that is 30.
It is that only 30% of examinees pass the Licensure Examination.
Same for teachers. Last year 60, 000 took the test. 49, 000 failed (or, being positive. 11, 000 passed). That's 49, 000 so-called "qualified graduate teachers" who have studied for 4 years to get a degree and cannot teach because they cannot pass the License Test.
There are many many low quality training institutions in the Phils. Many institutions have not had a passer for 5 years and yet they are STILL allowed to accept students and take their money.
If anyone is sending WU or other money to students, find out how many graduates pass the License Exams each year from their institution. The pass rates are equally bad for Law, Engineering, Nursing, Teaching. Your caring gesture might not guarantee a job at the end of it.[/QUOTE]Maybe I had a good sleep, or maybe it was yesterdays very sweet sex, anyways Freebie in a good mood. '
And have to add that I love the way this board goes off at all sorts of funny and interesting tangents.
Here we are talking about nurses pass rates.
Previously we have discuissions on best places to exchange money, the amount you can get out of an ATM, how to rid a toilet of "smell", where to get the best donuts, how much to tip or not to tip, and a long long time back, the best second cars to own in Phils.
The various boards here of the Philippines are way more interesting than many other countries boards I. E KL where the best that can be managed is " I met a hot girl last night in sex shop, paid her, rated her an 8. Followed by a barrage of " give me her number mate" etc. Ad infinitum.
I love to read all this non sex stuff (primarily because I got my fill yesterday and probably won't start thinking about puss till lunchtime today. LOL)
[QUOTE=Wjmpsr;1170485]This lovely lady recently moved from Angeles City back to her province, Leyte. She could use a friend. She is very beautiful, sexy and intelligent. If you want her email message me.[/QUOTE]I am coming to AC soon for my first trip, I presently live in PP Cambodia this girl looks quite nice what else do you know about her?
[QUOTE=Slippery;1179850]I know a woman that graduated from nursing school in May of 2011. She didn't have the money to take the review course so she didn't sit for the boards. All of that is documented. She says several of her friends are in the same situation but got jobs at a public hospital in Cebu without a license. She is asking me for 8,000 php to get her paperwork in order to be legally employed. Apparently this reqires NBI certification, physical exam, postal I'd, etc. Has anybody ever heard of somebody not taking the nursing exam and working in a public hospital? I have no problem sending 8, 000 but this sounds fishy.[/QUOTE]There is a huge oversupply of nurses here and hospitals have absolutely no reason to employ illegit nurses when the fully legit ones work for a bowl of rice.
Costs of getting a nursing license:
License exam. Initial registration fee 600p annual registration fee 450p
Oath taking. 350p.
Membership of Philippine nurses association. 400p.
So about 2000 pesos all added up
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1180839]Maybe I had a good sleep, or maybe it was yesterdays very sweet sex, anyways Freebie in a good mood. '
And have to add that I love the way this board goes off at all sorts of funny and interesting tangents.
Here we are talking about nurses pass rates.
Previously we have discuissions on best places to exchange money, the amount you can get out of an ATM, how to rid a toilet of "smell", where to get the best donuts, how much to tip or not to tip, and a long long time back, the best second cars to own in Phils.
The various boards here of the Philippines are way more interesting than many other countries boards I. E KL where the best that can be managed is " I met a hot girl last night in sex shop, paid her, rated her an 8. Followed by a barrage of " give me her number mate" etc. Ad infinitum.
I love to read all this non sex stuff (primarily because I got my fill yesterday and probably won't start thinking about puss till lunchtime today. LOL) [/QUOTE]I think it because we get pussy so easy that we post other stuff. Or maybe we just want free wifi, donuts and know why she needs 2000 this time around. LOL
Yikes. Had a girl at Planet X (formerly Hot Rod) recognize me from DIA. SHe was none too pleasing to the eye. Just goes to show how dubious that one picture at DIA can be.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1180839]I love to read all this non sex stuff (primarily because I got my fill yesterday and probably won't start thinking about puss till lunchtime today. LOL)[/QUOTE]My heart fucking bleeds for you. :(
You know your dick does not have a use by date. ;)
Love your reports but you sure do make it hard on us guys near your age. After reading one of your Manila reports, I some how feel inadequate.
Slim
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1180176].without a doubt she will have a nurses caring skills.[/QUOTE]Which of course is very relevant for many of us, di ba?
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1181010]My heart fucking bleeds for you. .
You know your dick does not have a use by date. .
Love your reports but you sure do make it hard on us guys near your age. After reading one of your Manila reports, I some how feel inadequate.
Slim[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. Its the heart having a " use before" date that I'm worried about. Got to get my fill before it decides to pack up on me. Next Manila trip all booked and should be another "cracker" of a four day stay, with Ms 19, Ms 23 and Ms 18 all prebooked with their allocated time slots. Now filling in the spare moments with other possible bookings.
Stay Slim!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1181203]Hahahaha. Its the heart having a " use before" date that I'm worried about. Got to get my fill before it decides to pack up on me. Next Manila trip all booked and should be another "cracker" of a four day stay, with Ms 19, Ms 23 and Ms 18 all prebooked with their allocated time slots. Now filling in the spare moments with other possible bookings.
Stay Slim![/QUOTE]FreebieFan: I am certain that I am not alone in wondering how you manage to schedule Ms 19, Ms23 and Ms 18 into an allocated time slot.
My experience in Manila- very limited indeed, suggested to me that the women are not good at arriving on time or leaving when you are finished with them. In my travels, mostly in Latin America, I tend to book the internet contacts (Tagged, Hi5, Badoo) far apart from one another, and to fill in the dull moments with P4P.
What is the secret of your clock management!
Thanks
[QUOTE=Forest; 1182275]FreebieFan: I am certain that I am not alone in wondering how you manage to schedule Ms 19, Ms23 and Ms 18 into an allocated time slot.
My experience in Manila- very limited indeed, suggested to me that the women are not good at arriving on time or leaving when you are finished with them. In my travels, mostly in Latin America, I tend to book the internet contacts (Tagged, Hi5, Badoo) far apart from one another, and to fill in the dull moments with P4P.
What is the secret of your clock management!
Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes, I find that confirming a pinay to be at a certain place at 1pm for a meet usually means she will be there sometime between 2:30 and 6pm. I find it hard to schedule girls at 1pm and 6pm for this reason.
Gal who never replied to my text, blaming SUN, eventually admitted she didn't have a load. I thought it was a phone complication. Was it? THis is what I sent her.
You use your money for Internet, but then don't have load to contact the guy if he actually arrives in the Philippines. You should think about that.
I would have loved to meet you and would have been happy to help you out with a load. But I'm in xxx now. Keep in touch if you think you will have a load next time.
[QUOTE=Forest;1182275]FreebieFan: I am certain that I am not alone in wondering how you manage to schedule Ms 19, Ms23 and Ms 18 into an allocated time slot. My experience in Manila- very limited indeed, suggested to me that the women are not good at arriving on time or leaving when you are finished with them.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Was there six years, in all my experience I rarely could ever get hem lined up like sucks in a row. The majority of girls are running late, confuse simple txt message instructions & tend to want to move with you rather than scram when you needed them to. I find these stories of serial copulations in short time spans on rigid schedules a bit incredible. In my experience the only way to achieve this was to be not fussy at all about looks and make it clear money would change hands if you know what I mean ahem.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida; 1182546]Hmm. Was there six years, in all my experience I rarely could ever get hem lined up like sucks in a row. The majority of girls are running late, confuse simple txt message instructions & tend to want to move with you rather than scram when you needed them to. I find these stories of serial copulations in short time spans on rigid schedules a bit incredible. In my experience the only way to achieve this was to be not fussy at all about looks and make it clear money would change hands if you know what I mean ahem.
AV[/QUOTE]Concur. From a trip in Cebu city last year. I had chatted with a girl from DIA (#1) who was interested in a photo-only shoot in my room for some pesos. Also she said she could bring a friend (#2) , and she gave me the friend's YM. In chatting with the friend, the friend gave me the her phone number, and the number of her cousin (#3) who was interested in photos only. Thru YM and phone txts before I arrived, I chatted each of these three girls, and also of a 4th DIA contact. After a few fun-filled days of naughty activity in Cebu, I decided to take a day off from any prurient activity the next day. In chat / txt I lined up the 4 girls in 3 sessions for photos only: the first two girls at noon, girl #3 at 3pm, and girl #4 at 6pm. All meeting in Robinson's fuente. I made clear in chat & txt they were not to be late. IF YOU ARE ONE MINUTE LATE EVEN, DON'T COME. I WON'T MEET IF YOU ARE LATE. Which they all replied in the affirmative. Talk about a comedy of errors.
At 12:15 no word from girls #1 & 2, so I txt and did not hear back, and I left for my nearby hotel. On my way back I txt girl #3, the cousin of #2, to come early if she wanted."OK I meet you in Robinsons 10 mins. I live close." Sure enough. 15 minutes later, there she was, just before 1pm. Off we went to the hotel. At 2pm, #1 txts "We are here now." I don't respond as I am in the middle of shooting #3, who asks for more pesos in the middle of it. Yes, if you can do more than pics, which she agreed to, and we get down to biz. My phone keeps buzzing but I'm not looking at it, #1&2 are in Robinson's still and firing txts at me. #3's phone is also ringing away, but she's not looking at it either (#2 is her cousin, txting away to #3). After we are thru, #3 looks at her phone and me at mine."My cousin mad to you. She wait in mall for you. She there 2pm. Now she leave for her trabajo." Not to be outdone, #3 says she has another friend who can do the same, would I like her to stop by? I say yes, if the girl is attractive and can be there by 4pm (about one hour) , and NO LATER. IF SHE'S LATE EVEN ONE MINUTE, I WON'T MEET WITH HER. Thru txts, the friend, #5, agrees to be in the lobby by 4pm. #3 waits with me and #5 does not show on time, its now 4:30pm."Very traffic." I tell #3 to tell #5 to stand down, that I have a girl coming at 6pm (#4) , there will not be enough time. #3 begs me to wait, but I take her to the street and let her go. #4 is late, I'm in Robinsons waiting at 6pm. She txts at 6:15 and says she's with "very traffic". I have nothing else to do, so I wait. #1 starts txting asking if she can come directly to the hotel. NO THANKS. #4 shows at 6:30, late, and we walk to the hotel. She also wants to do more than pics for extra, so off to the races (exhausting me). The phone rings, its the front desk."Sir, you have a guest here." Sh*t, its #5, in the lobby, she came anyway. 3 hours late. I tell him to have her go home or wait in the lobby for me. I didn't completely finish with #4, but we wrapped things up in a bit. While she's showering, my txt from #1: "my friend went her work. I can bring my sister. She's 16". Ah, no thanks. In walking #4 out to the street, the doorman points to a girl in the lobby: "Your guest sir. She wait for you." #5. I was tired and told her to go home. She wanted taxi money. She was right there and easy for the taking, but I wasn't feeling it at that point. I see little reason to help the girl who is late. I asked where she lived and she said near to here."No. Go home. Never be late again. You seem nice but I tell your friend no late girl. Goodnight. Should be easy walk for you." She asked for taxi money again. I asked why she was late at 4pm and arrived at 7pm."My work. I don't off work till 6." So, it was not possible for you to be here 4pm?"No sir." A blatant lie by #3. I went to shower and to Mango for a drink before retiring for the night.
So, out of 5 girls, I ended up with 2 (could have been more) for the day in my camera. What started out as an easy kill for 4 girls to session (almost 5 later) turned into 2, because of the time standard difference. Time is not always money, but it certainly trades for frustration. I don't always use the BE ON TIME OR I WON'T MEET WITH YOU, but when I do, I rarely meet with late girls when this kind of language is acknowledged. The frustration is just as often for the girl who is late. She's accustomed to be either late by an hour or two, or having other people do the same to her. They can be furious for me not waiting for them in the mall when she's 2 hours late: "How dare you!", etc.
This is very clear: pilipino time standards are different than mine. Or, there is a communication barrier: the words DON'T BE ONE MINUTE LATE EVEN. I WILL NOT MEET WITH YOU aren't part of the english spoken in filipines (works just a bit better in manila than visayas). I want to know your secrets FF for the scheduling.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1182615].So, out of 5 girls, I ended up with 2 (could have been more) for the day in my camera. What started out as an easy kill for 4 girls to session (almost 5 later) turned into 2, because of the time standard difference. Time is not always money, but it certainly trades for frustration. I don't always use the BE ON TIME OR I WON'T MEET WITH YOU, but when I do, I rarely meet with late girls when this kind of language is acknowledged. The frustration is just as often for the girl who is late. She's accustomed to be either late by an hour or two, or having other people do the same to her. They can be furious for me not waiting for them in the mall when she's 2 hours late: "How dare you!", etc.[/QUOTE]Hilarious description of daily life in the PI Westy.
Thats how it is to a TEE.
In all this mad maelstrom of scheduling multiple girls sometimes the planets line up and you have one of those days you can never forget when you need every milligram of that Viagra / Cialis, but rarely. As you correctly point out they actually get pissy when you cut them loose for not sticking to agreed times. Giving them very explicit instructions like "DON'T BE ONE MINUTE LATE EVEN. I WILL NOT MEET WITH YOU" is actualy interpreted as 'arrogant' by the girls and leads to a less than GFE which I prize over shotgun sex with multiple strangers. To each his own.
Actually the best way I found to achieve every mans fantasy of multiple girls in one day was to go to AC, bar fine a string of really nice girls that you had a rapport with, give them gifts so that they remembered you, and then texting them the next day. Example :
To Girl #1 : I'm leaving town today can you come over at 8am, I want to say goodbye and give you something.
after the deed..
Girl #1 : What time you leaving?
Me : leaving in 1 hour honey, I need to get going, see ya!
To Girl #2 : I'm leaving town today can you come over at 8am +90 minutes, I want to say goodbye and give you something.
after the deed..
Girl #2 : What time you leaving?
Me : leaving in 1 hour honey, I need to get going, see ya!
To Girl #3 : I'm leaving town today can you come over at 8am +180 minutes, I want to say goodbye and give you something.
after the deed..
Girl #3 : What time you leaving?
Me : leaving in 1 hour honey, I need to get going, see ya!
To Girl #4 : I'm leaving town today can you come over at 8am +270 minutes, I want to say goodbye and give you something.
after the deed..
Girl #4 : What time you leaving?
Me : leaving in 1 hour honey, I need to get going, see ya!
Etc, etc
Yeah I lied my head off but In this way I got to fuck a whole string of lovely girls from breakfast time to afternoon tea time then get on a plane and fall into the seat like a marathon runner hehehe.
AC bar girls are used to guys leaving in a hurry for planes & they accept it if you say no honey, you cant come to the airport this time, i have business to attend to before i go, money changing etc.
Ah memories.
AV
[QUOTE=Amavida; 1182640]Hilarious description of daily life in the PI Westy.
Thats how it is to a TEE.
In all this mad maelstrom of scheduling multiple girls sometimes the planets line up and you have one of those days you can never forget when you need every milligram of that Viagra / Cialis, but rarely. As you correctly point out they actually get pissy when you cut them loose for not sticking to agreed times. Giving them very explicit instructions like "DON'T BE ONE MINUTE LATE EVEN. I WILL NOT MEET WITH YOU" is actualy interpreted as 'arrogant' by the girls and leads to a less than GFE which I prize over shotgun sex with multiple strangers. To each his own.[/QUOTE]In this case, I wasn't trying for shotgun sex, just shotgun photoshoots. I even have old gf's in manila / cebu I like to have lunch or dinner with (no sex). But good god getting them there at the appointed time requires: HONEY IF YOU ARE ONE MINUTE LATE EVEN, I WILL LEAVE AND FIND ANOTHER DATE AND NOT LOOK BACK. And BTW, once I do that to a girl, leave her stranded, she's never late again (should she decide to meet me again)."Why you foriner so pungshwal always? Just relax ok?" Hahaha. In pinay code, what that really means, is,"Just sit there for two hours chilling drinking san migs while I shower and take slowest jeepney in manila. OK? That way you will appear to be dateless and desperate, and when I get there, everyone will know you're on my leash." Shortly I will post another account of a recent chatmate meeting disaster.
[QUOTE=Amavida; 1182640]Actually the best way I found to achieve every mans fantasy of multiple girls in one day was to go to AC, bar fine a string of really nice girls that you had a rapport with, give them gifts so that they remembered you, and then texting them the next day. Example :
To Girl #4 : I'm leaving town today can you come over at 8am +270 minutes, I want to say goodbye and give you something.
After the deed.
Girl #4 : What time you leaving?
Me : leaving in 1 hour honey, I need to get going, see ya!
Etc, etc.
Yeah I lied my head off but In this way I got to fuck a whole string of lovely girls from breakfast time to afternoon tea time then get on a plane and fall into the seat like a marathon runner hehehe.
AC bar girls are used to guys leaving in a hurry for planes & they accept it if you say no honey, you can't come to the airport this time, I have business to attend to before I go, money changing etc.
Ah memories.
AV[/QUOTE]Haaaaa! Excellent. Amavida for president.
[QUOTE=Amavida; 1182546]Hmm. Was there six years, in all my experience I rarely could ever get hem lined up like sucks in a row. The majority of girls are running late, confuse simple txt message instructions & tend to want to move with you rather than scram when you needed them to. I find these stories of serial copulations in short time spans on rigid schedules a bit incredible. In my experience the only way to achieve this was to be not fussy at all about looks and make it clear money would change hands if you know what I mean ahem.
AV[/QUOTE]When I lived there I took them at my leisure and rarely more than one a day. However as I don't live there anymore I have to do more to get more so to speak. The most recent trip did see a 4 in a row sequence that admittedly did start at 10am and only finsihed at midnight. The bigger amount of time was spent in getting from place to place and finding parking. The girls were always where they said they would be and ontime. Maybe its all about the selection, rather than basing it on looks alone.
Anyways I don't think I'm up for 4 in a day any more. Way too tiring for this mid 50s fellow. Two is way nicer number. Well maybe three. LOL
One of my (many) mistakes. I met a DIA girl. 19, pretty. In first chat, from my naughty boy profile, she agreed to meet / bang / pics. But she agreed too quickly. When I told her what I was looking for, she said (first chat) : "Listen yes I can meet you for that. But lets not talk the details here. When we meet I will do all those things you said you like in your hotel. OK?" Over the next few weeks we had about a dozen normal conversations (that was the mistake). She's not been to college but she's bright, sharp. Quick to smile on cam. She was dying to meet when I came. She ended every conversation with her phone number."You call or txt me when you land. I want to meet right away." So I land in Cebu, get to my hotel, and get the wifi tethered to my laptop and POOF she comes online in YM. I tell her I'm there, and she wants to meet. I suggest Robinson's and she says yes. I ask if she can be there in one hour: yes. Just as I'm about to sign off with her, I mention that I brought my toys with me:
Her: what toys?
Me: the adult toys. The one's I mentioned before.
Her: what adult toys?
Me: you know, the nawty kind.
Her: show me one now on cam?
Me: sure. Here's one.
Her: oh my god. No. No. What do you think I am?
Me: a lover. Like you agreed to before.
Her: never did I say I'm doing that kind of thing. You want sex?
Me: yes. Its why we are meeting. Remember?
Her: no I don't remember. What you talking about?
Me: now its my turn. OMG. You agreed in our first chat to come on my hotel after we meet in mall.
Her: no. I never said that.
Me: well, I have the chat transcript here on my computer. You want me to paste it for you now so you can see it?
Her: no. Even if I say it I don't mean it. Just I want to meet you.
Me: sorry. I never meet girls for dating. You respond to my playboy profile which says I'm only here for sex. Then you say you want to meet for it.
Her: sorry I'm not like that. GOODBYE!
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That was that. But an hour later she comes back online, asking if she can send her sister, recently dumped by her husband. She says the sister is wild, wants to meet, and will do anything. Sure. Thats about 1pm."She take bath and meet you 2pm Jolibee by your hotel." I wait till 2:30 to walk one block to Jolibee. 2:40 the txting starts:
Chatmate: my sis arrive?
Me: no. I'm sitting jollie.
Sis: I'm here now. To shy. You come outside.
I go outside, and nobody is on the street."I'm wearing black white stripe shirt." Nobody around like that. I go back to the hotel after a bit. Sis: "she there? She's wearing white shirt with blue buterflys." I go walking up / down the street. I show the txts to the security guy at the door. He walks out and looks about. Nothing. Walk back to Jolibee, nothing. Few more txts, she says she's at the church across the streets on the steps, but nobody is standing on the steps. Security guard says there is similar neighborhood 3 blocks away with jollie and church and hotels, so he sends a hotel girl over that way looking for either shirt. Nothing. The hotel girl uses my phone to txt the sis and my chatmate. Both the security guy and the hotel girl are baffled by the replies."No such girl around here sir. We think she's maybe in wrong part of the city. We tell her the street and cross street. Tell her take taxi. She say she can see us here on the street looking around." Three adults looking for one pinay (two different clothing descriptions) , to no avail. 4pm and I give up.
Back in my room, the sis txts have stopped, but the chatmate txts are now sounding worried: "where my sis? She not txting back!" I invite the chatmate to come to the hotel and talk to the security guard. She declines. 5pm the sis txts: "Are you coming outside to meet me?" By this time I'm in Ayala mall. I reply no, go home, it didn't work. The chatmate is still plastering my phone with txts: "Worried my sis!" To which I reply that I got bored and went to the mall. 6pm, I'm leaving the mall in a taxi, the chatmate: "OK my sis near to your hotel now. She say she walk by security guard. You go now meet her." Ya got to be kidding toots. 6:30 I roll up in the taxi, looking for the girl still. Nobody matching the description. Security says they have been looking for her, but nothing. I'm convinced she never existed, till I get to my room and I get this from sis: "saw you walk in. Blue shirt shorts blond guy. Come out. I'm right here looking the security guy." OMG. I txt the chatmate her sis might be outside. The chatmate txts back: "So very sorry for this. Just found out she was not there before. She just leave our cousin house 1 hour ago." So I go outside and ask security to walk up the street with me. He does. As we walk out the door,"Pssst." A really skinny, pretty pinay is there. Blue shirt (not white) with orange butterfly on the back, no stripes. Does not match what either girl told us before."Sorry I just get here. Long jeepney one hour almost." I asked if she had been in the neighborhood all afternoon txting me from jolibee and the church."No. I was at my cousin." The security guy looked like he was going to slap her. I told her fairly gently to go home for wasting my time. Shortly after I sent her away and get a shower, the chatmate comes online, chewing on me: "You keep her tonight! She wild! She do anything! You give her a money! Any! WHY YOU SEND HER AWAY?" On and on like that.
Got myself a Vikings girl later. The next day the chatmate left a bunch of offlines: "Very sorry she lie. Can she come back?" An entire afternoon wasted. Yagottabekiddingtoots.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1182670]Anyways I don't think I'm up for 4 in a day any more. Way too tiring for this mid 50s fellow. Two is way nicer number. Well maybe three. LOL[/QUOTE]LOL. Yeah, know what you mean FF. Actually once I had fulfilled the fantasy the drive to do these shenanigans again and again certainly eased off. But sometimes greed raises it's naughty little head he he he. I worry about guys that are compulsive about it.
AV
I feel your pain. Wasted one afternoon in Olongapo city, when I should have been on the beach. Gal never showed up even though she was supposedly only twenty minutes away. After killing time for two yours, taking some pictures, observing a parade, I get a text saying,"just finished shower, on my way".
Or the one who was wearing a black dress. She meant black clothing.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1182679]SNIP.
The next day the chatmate left a bunch of offlines: "Very sorry she lie. Can she come back?" An entire afternoon wasted. Yagottabekiddingtoots.[/QUOTE]
[quote=westcoast1]Over the next few weeks we had about a dozen normal conversations (that was the mistake).[/quote]2 WEEKS? Man, you are lucky she even remembers who you are after 2 weeks. A typical DIA 19 year old has the attention span of about 2 MINUTES. Example:
Sillygirl: [13:10] Hullow Whats your name?
Me: [13:15] I am Fast Buck Artist, how are you doing today dear?
Sillygirl [13:20] I am just hear in house, it rains.
Me: [13:25] Is the typhoon passing through your province?
2 hrs later
Sillygirl: [15:30] Hullow may I know your name?
Me: aaaaargh, please somebody insert a brain into this doll and turn it on!!
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1182679]The next day the chatmate left a bunch of offlines: "Very sorry she lie. Can she come back?" An entire afternoon wasted. Yagottabekiddingtoots.[/QUOTE]Typical DIA bullshit timewasters. Most of the under 23 girls there are like that, curious students with way too much time on their hands and attitude of a 13 year old. I wouldn't be surprised if the "sister" was orchestrating the whole thing and your original date had no intention at all showing up. Happened to me a year ago in (coincidence?) Cebu where I went to the mall to meet this really hot young online girl of 18years, and when I got there she came with older 22yo sister, who was bigger, uglier, and a lot chattier. Within 5 minutes I figured out the cute little sis had no intention whatsoever of meeting me, and the older uglier sibling was just using her as a bait to draw me out to a date. Aaargh
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1182615]time, its now 4:30pm."Very traffic.".[/QUOTE]I love this phrase. Not a verb in sight, but still we understand its meaning, and so does every Filipino.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1182716]where I went to the mall to meet this really hot young online girl of 18years, and when I got there she came with older 22yo sister, who was bigger, uglier, and a lot chattier. Within 5 minutes I figured out the cute little sis had no intention whatsoever of meeting me, and the older uglier sibling was just using her as a bait to draw me out to a date. Aaargh[/QUOTE]Did you continue with the date?
If it was me, I'd politely tell her that the date is over and I'd refuse to reimburse any bus fare.
This is why I ignore the hot 18 year olds. In fact, if her pic is too hot, I'd pass.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1182771]Did you continue with the date?
If it was me, I'd politely tell her that the date is over and I'd refuse to reimburse any bus fare.
This is why I ignore the hot 18 year olds. In fact, if her pic is too hot, I'd pass.[/QUOTE]I talked to them for 15 minutes and left. This is not the first time I meet a "team" of a pretty emptyheaded doll with a chatty piglet friend who is using the doll as a bait.
These days I go for 25+yo girls with a job. Some mental maturity is a better asset than a pretty face. As they say. Beauty Fades Dumb is Forever.
For the same reason I prefer girls who live with roommates or alone, not at family home with parents.
One of mine in Manila took some unsolicited porno shots and sent them to me the other day.
Me: who make for you?
Her: I did. Had hard time taking those. Used my fone.
Me: LOL. Cool.
Her: hmnnn.
Her: so your not coming for some of that|?
Me: LOL. Some of what?
Her: that ass.
Her:?
Her: LOL.
Me: LOL.
Me: hell yeah
The famous American philosopher Ron White once said "You can't fix stupid."
Slim
Why fix it if you can fuck it.
But serious guys unless you live here stick to the bars. Dia is ok if you here for weeks and like waiting for pina.
Texting: the good, the bad and the ugly. I can do without it 98% of the time. I have a gf in Dumaguete who emails me constantly to say nothing. Then she wants me to Yahoo I'm. I say I don't know how. Too much wasted time and BS. She is nice girl, nice body but doesn't work or go to school. Too much time on her hands. I told her to get a job then go to school. The Pinays are excellent lovers but kinda lazy. Got to find one (a non pro) that likes to work so she's not idle all day thinking of ways to spend all my money (with her family).
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1182863]The famous American philosopher Ron White once said "You can't fix stupid."
Slim[/QUOTE]Yeah. You can't fix stupid.
Sure wish someone would invent something to keep the sun out of my eyes.
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D-Cups; here is a suggestion. Instead of quoting in full a lengthy report such as Westcoast1 just follow the examples set by X Man and Fast Buck Artist below and SNIP to the most relevant part. It doesn't take a moment to do that and it saves filling a Forum board with regurgitated material. Thanks.
KongKing
Well, we can criticize the gals for being a bit slow, but some of the guys are pretty dimwitted too. On Tagged I looked at a guys's profile. 55, in good shape. His msg profile says something like,"if you don't answer my questions I'll delete your ass". Later he writes,"Why do girls add me and then never reply to me?" I look at his friend list and he has about 200 women, most aged 18-24. Quite a few in bikinis. Duh, you think the new friends might notice that?
Anyway, I'm enjoying contacting the gals on his list. He's done a good job of filtering out some real sweeties. And who knows, they might answer my questions.
X
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1182863]The famous American philosopher Ron White once said "You can't fix stupid."
Slim[/QUOTE]I never thought of him as a philosopher, but in a sense I guess your correct! Truer words were never spoken however!
"that's funny right there, I don't care who you are!"
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1182874]Why fix it if you can fuck it.
But serious guys unless you live here stick to the bars. Dia is ok if you here for weeks and like waiting for pina.[/QUOTE]Often I do bars. But I was wanting to get away from pros this time. I spent quite a bit of time doing the wait. C'est la vie.
Nearly every girl I p4p has a dia profile. I let them use my computers after we sex I see they use fb dia and tagged some stay all day so I get to see what they do. Often if they are good I ask for thier fb. I have had girls texing dia guys saying they are at the mall when they are at my house in no rush to move on some girls will stop replying text while they are in my house (I tell them they can). Dia is just a escort site to most pina. It is a biz to them. The guys who boast they get free casual sex are making it so these girls stop working as they find other ways to make money they ask ne to find a bf for them as they want full time. There are girls working dia who will marry as it better for them to have a full time rather than casual.
Also Pino guys help the wife / gf setup dia I know guys who do. The girls tell you what you want as they just need cash.
I like dia but it takes alot of tine to get pussy. I only use it to find 30 kg. I use fb more as I get better results for my time.
[QUOTE=X Man; 1182951]Well, we can criticize the gals for being a bit slow, but some of the guys are pretty dimwitted too. On Tagged I looked at a guys's profile. 55, in good shape. His msg profile says something like,"if you don't answer my questions I'll delete your ass". Later he writes,"Why do girls add me and then never reply to me?" I look at his friend list and he has about 200 women, most aged 18-24. Quite a few in bikinis. Duh, you think the new friends might notice that?
Anyway, I'm enjoying contacting the gals on his list. He's done a good job of filtering out some real sweeties. And who knows, they might answer my questions.
X[/QUOTE]I think the term is called " friend shopping". At least thats how one lady described it to me when I asked how she had got my name and number."Oh I saw your pic and profile on my friends tagged so went friend shopping " she said.
Saw a holier than thou type profile on DIA recently "Seriousone184" and asked her about an AISD comment on her profile. She replied "And as far as I know AIDS here is from the foreigners. That spread into the filipina **** women"
So there you have it. Men are to blame and only foreign men. Filipino men are clean and clear of this disease entirely and its you bad nasty horny foreigners who have caused it. LOL
Unless I have you confused with someone else, aren't you the one with the "we fk first date" DIA profile? How does that get you away from the pros?
I use DIA because I love the GFE and I have found some very loving women, with a very generic profile. Some are now married in the west, one is a nurse in Europe, one has a FB profile showing she's getting a lot of attention from a guy much younger than I am. At least one was a scamming little slt, but even she played GFE good enough to get a western husband.
Basically, I agree that you might be disappointed if you only have a few days, but then the bars will still be there if your DIA date doesn't give you the good lovin' you were hoping for. Yea, doing the "wait". It is frustrating, but sometimes so rewarding. X.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1183068]Often I do bars. But I was wanting to get away from pros this time. I spent quite a bit of time doing the wait. C'est la vie.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1183627]Men are to blame and only foreign men. Filipino men are clean and clear of this disease entirely and its you bad nasty horny foreigners who have caused it. LOL[/QUOTE]I've posted before about a great book entitled *The Wisdom of Wh---s: Bureaucrats, Brothels and the Business of AIDS* It's written by an earthy British health demographer named Elizabeth Pisani. She got her hands dirty meeting and talking to straight, gay, and bisexual sex workers, mostly in Indonesia and China, but in other parts of Southeast Asia and Africa in addition. One of the dynamics she uncovers is that many female sex workers are in on-again, off-again relationships with men who are themselves bisexual sex workers. She believes that HIV is often passed to the women by these men, in part because their sex is almost always uncovered. This is a dynamic she discovered in Indonesia, but should we expect that it's not similar in the Phils?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1183627]Saw a holier than thou type profile on DIA recently "Seriousone184" and asked her about an AISD comment on her profile. She replied "And as far as I know AIDS here is from the foreigners. That spread into the filipina * women"
So there you have it. Men are to blame and only foreign men. Filipino men are clean and clear of this disease entirely and its you bad nasty horny foreigners who have caused it. LOL[/QUOTE][b]German national dies of 'HIV-Aids' in Oro: Pajo[/b]
THE City Council expressed alarm Thursday over the death of a German national reportedly from the human immunodeficiency virus-acquired immune deficiency syndrome (HIV-Aids).
The German's body has not been claimed at Bollozos Funeral Parlor in Barangay Bulua, Cagayan de Oro City, for more than a month now.
Councilor Dante Pajo, chairperson of the City Council committee on health and author of the Cagayan de Oro Aids Council, said the German national arrived in Cagayan de Oro in November 2009 and was hospitalized at the Polymedic General Hospital a few days after he arrived and later died.
He said the foreigner was suspected to have HIV / AIDS.
'The German national made a grand entrance in the city. He used to have a wife in Thailand and a lot of lovers in Malaysia. When he arrived here, reports said he was fond of playing around with teenage girls, aged 13 years old and up. He also loved to go to the 'red light district', ' Pajo said.
Pajo said though they have yet to confirm the real cause of the foreigner's death, the report is still 'very alarming. '
'It is better to take precautionary measures for our peace of mind. This virus is passed from one person to another through blood-to-blood and sexual contact. In addition, infected pregnant women can pass Aids to their baby during pregnancy or delivery, as well as through breastfeeding. People with HIV have what is called HIV infection. Most of these people will develop AIDS as a result of their HIV infection, ' Pajo said.
He said if it is confirmed that the German national died of HIV-Aids, the City Health Office along with the Aids Council will closely monitor those who were in contact with the foreigner to prevent the spread of the disease.
With this, Pajo called on those who had previous sexual contacts with the German national to visit the City Health Office for thorough check-up and counseling. (Nicole J. Managbang)
[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de-oro/german-national-dies-hiv-aids-oro-pajo[/url]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1183627]Saw a holier than thou type profile on DIA recently "Seriousone184" and asked her about an AISD comment on her profile. She replied "And as far as I know AIDS here is from the foreigners. That spread into the filipina * women"
So there you have it. Men are to blame and only foreign men. Filipino men are clean and clear of this disease entirely and its you bad nasty horny foreigners who have caused it. LOL[/QUOTE]And Filipino men are sterile and do not run at the first sign of a pregnancy.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1184177]And Filipino men are sterile and do not run at the first sign of a pregnancy.[/QUOTE]You heard that too? LOL.
[QUOTE=X Man; 1183645]Unless I have you confused with someone else, aren't you the one with the "we fk first date" DIA profile? How does that get you away from the pros?[/QUOTE]I have more than one profile, but yes the pro's often hit that one. They are quick to just give me their number and tell me what time of day is best for them and txt when I'm in town. They are not into chat. Also quite a variety of girls hit that profile, including many girls that never read it in the first place. For those that did, there is still quite a variety of girls, from pro's to regular girls looking to hook up for whatever reason.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1183627]Saw a holier than thou type profile on DIA recently "Seriousone184" and asked her about an AISD comment on her profile. She replied "And as far as I know AIDS here is from the foreigners. That spread into the filipina * women"
So there you have it. Men are to blame and only foreign men.[/QUOTE]Technically yes, a foreigner brought the disease into the country. AIDS originated in Africa yes? Someone brought it in. Not that it matters really.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1184257]Technically yes, a foreigner brought the disease into the country. AIDS originated in Africa yes? Someone brought it in. Not that it matters really.[/QUOTE]It truly doesn't matter, but just extremely sad that a reasonably well educated lady has been taught that foreigners are to blame therefor stay away from them as they carry diseases.
Same thinking occurs in Thailand and Indonesia.
Sadly the thinking can't see further than that. Never mind that Filipino seafarers, or OFW's in general might and can be carriers (5% denied visas in 2010 due to prevalence of HIV when doing pre work testing ). Never mind that Filipino men go on business trips to all the same places that we go to. Its the bigoted racist and generally uneducated thinking thats sad. Equally sad of course is the lack of resources that therefor goes on HIV prevention and education (condom Sir, whats that?). However that in itself maybe because the government also believes its a foreigners disease.
Message from Keep Distance
[quote](DIA)"I DON'T NEED YOUR MONEY INSTEAD OF NEEDING YOUR LOVE AND RESPECT. I AM A SIMPLE "FILIPINA" THAT IS NOT AMBITIOUS, I DON'T NEED MONEY FOR ANYTHING ELSE. WHAT I AM AFTER FOR IS A KIND OF GUY THAT I CAN TRUST TO.
I'm YOUNG YET INDEPENDENT. I KNOW HOW TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE WORD LOVE. BUT WHAT'S SAD IS THAT I HATE A GUY THAT IS AFTER FOR ONE'S BODY, CONDITIONED TO MEET BUT THEN DURING THE DAY OF MEETING, THEY WILL INVITE THE GIRL TO STAY WITH THEM IN THE HOTEL. IF YOU ARE ONE OF THEM PLEASE QUIT SENDING MESSAGE"[/quote]Now who has been inviting this sweet girl to a hotel room. LOL
Do you guys think this is a sophisticated double entendre?
"STUDYING COURSE OF HOTEL AND RESTAURANT SERVICES I LOVE DANCING, SPORTS AND COCKING"
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1184257]Technically yes, a foreigner brought the disease into the country. AIDS originated in Africa yes? Someone brought it in. Not that it matters really.[/QUOTE]Not so fast, Fast Buck Artist! The main vector is (or perhaps was) returning OFW's. But of course the pinoys will embrace any chance to blame "ugly porreigners" for anything bad going on in their otherwise so very fine country. In this vein Angeles has been described by various pinoy leaders as a "HIV-spreading cesspool". Which probably has some truth to it. Apologies if I'm ruining anyones appetite for "fresh DIA cherrys", ha ha. Further discussion on the subject maybe better taken to the Safe Sex thread?
Thanks for the laugh Rocksoff.
I'm fond of the petite gals. But I thought I would share this one. Older, heavy, but has some qualities that someone here will surely find interesting.
Dia; jazzy32246.
And she's looking for "serious lover friends", which probably means."up to you". X
Just for intrest sake, I started looking for numbers for national infection rates for HIV / AIDS.
I then divided these by populations in millions to get "infections per million", which should give a better idea of cesspool status. The numbers are interesting:
Australia 497.
USA 2129.
Philippines 93.
There is a breakdown for the USA into black, white and chicano, but I will not post that since it might be taken as being racist.
So the Philippines is the safer safe place for those driven by fear of AIDS, good old USA is the most dangerous.
G
[QUOTE=Pute Nut;1184375]Not so fast, Fast Buck Artist! The main vector is (or perhaps was) returning OFW's. But of course the pinoys will embrace any chance to blame "ugly porreigners" for anything bad going on in their otherwise so very fine country. In this vein Angeles has been described by various pinoy leaders as a "HIV-spreading cesspool". Which probably has some truth to it. Apologies if I'm ruining anyones appetite for "fresh DIA cherrys", ha ha. Further discussion on the subject maybe better taken to the Safe Sex thread?[/QUOTE]Actually, you're safer barebacking in Angeles City. The major concentrations of AIDS in the Philippines are found in Metro Manila, Metro Cebu and Metro Davao. These are the areas where mongers find their sweet "fresh DIA cherries."
Wait a minute! Are you telling me that the major concentrations of AID infections are in the three most populous cities in the Philippines? What a coincidence! The largest incidences of almost any infection happens to be in. Wait for this. The most populous areas. Chocha monger is really on to something here. We should study this further. As for the connection with DIA, who knows.
CM, were you referring to some statistical date indicating a wider per captia infection rate? X.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1184839]Actually, you're safer barebacking in Angeles City. The major concentrations of AIDS in the Philippines are found in Metro Manila, Metro Cebu and Metro Davao. These are the areas where mongers find their sweet "fresh DIA cherries."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1184726]Just for intrest sake, I started looking for numbers for national infection rates for HIV / AIDS.
Australia 497.
USA 2129.
Philippines 93.
G[/QUOTE]Its no secret that highest HIV infection rates are among africans, most countries with high population of africans have an elevated HIV rate.
Yes, Philippines still has a very low HIV rate. Lets keep it that way fellas!
[quote=ChochaMonger]The major concentrations of AIDS in the Philippines are found in Metro Manila, Metro Cebu and Metro Davao.[/quote]And most of these cases are homosexual men and drug users.
Among heterosexual women, I would suspect AC is first (don't have a study to prove it though!)
No matter where you go in the world, you run the risk of contracting HIV, especially if you bareback multiple partners. You never know how many other guys they have been with bareback, and how clean they might have been.
Now back to the theme of this forum thread:
In keeping with what X Man posted earlier, I found the following profile. On DIA mz. Shy writes "I know how to cock but a pilipino food, I have'nt work right now. But was trying to get one soon".
Maybe she can find several since she knows how to cock! :D
Enjoy and be safe!
HW
No, not me. It was Rocksoff who started the DIA humor thread. In Japan I asked a woman what they would do if she suddenly became ridiculously wealthy.
"I would buy a big house and have two cocks".
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1185016]No matter where you go in the world, you run the risk of contracting HIV, especially if you bareback multiple partners. You never know how many other guys they have been with bareback, and how clean they might have been.
Now back to the theme of this forum thread:
In keeping with what X Man posted earlier, I found the following profile. On DIA mz. Shy writes "I know how to cock but a pilipino food, I have'nt work right now. But was trying to get one soon".
Maybe she can find several since she knows how to cock! .
Enjoy and be safe!
HW[/QUOTE]
Maybe someone can help me out. I thought DIA was a real site but from some of the postings I've seen it's basically sounding like a independant hookers site. Are all the girls on there going to negotiate a rate or are some going to act like a girlfriend? I didn't have girls in MBC talk about money so I'm surprised to hear it is so common on DIA. I met a guy who is getting married to a girl of DIA on the plane so it can't be all of them, but is it a huge majority? Anyone?
[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1185347]Maybe someone can help me out. I thought DIA was a real site but from some of the postings I've seen it's basically sounding like a independant hookers site. Are all the girls on there going to negotiate a rate or are some going to act like a girlfriend? I didn't have girls in MBC talk about money so I'm surprised to hear it is so common on DIA. I met a guy who is getting married to a girl of DIA on the plane so it can't be all of them, but is it a huge majority? Anyone?[/QUOTE]Just because the guy is marrying her doesn't mean she was not a DIA hooker. Guys marry hookers in the Philippines all the time, online and off. Most of the girls will pretend to be your girlfriend and almost all of them will try to get money out of you but they almost never admit that they're selling pussy.
I've never met any DIA girls that asked for money. Dated a half a dozen of them. Some repeatedly.
[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1185347]Maybe someone can help me out. I thought DIA was a real site but from some of the postings I've seen it's basically sounding like a independant hookers site. Are all the girls on there going to negotiate a rate or are some going to act like a girlfriend? I didn't have girls in MBC talk about money so I'm surprised to hear it is so common on DIA. I met a guy who is getting married to a girl of DIA on the plane so it can't be all of them, but is it a huge majority? Anyone?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups;1185386]I've never met any DIA girls that asked for money. Dated a half a dozen of them. Some repeatedly.[/QUOTE]That's because you play the guitar and sing to them.
I don't believe that you can read through any dating site without finding some hookers, or flat out scam artists on them. There are some decent girls in there also, who are simply looking for someone to sweep them off their feet and marry them. Most want to marry a foreigner, because they believe that is the only way they can escape the life of poverty they are currently in. I think some have legitimate needs for money that they don't have available, and will occasionally ask the men that they chat with to help them. However, I make it a policy to never send money to anyone I have not met in person. And if I do send money, it is a very small amount. You just have to use your own judgement and try to avoid being scammed.
HW
[QUOTE=D Cups;1185386]I've never met any DIA girls that asked for money. Dated a half a dozen of them. Some repeatedly.[/QUOTE]Same here. Even dated a virgin, who waited until her wedding night for sex. I am still friends with her.
Thanks, David, yes, I do! Chicks all over the world fall for the romantic stuff (especially Filipinas are very musical)!
I might add while we're on the subject of online dating that my experience at Cherry Blossums dot com has been mixed at best. While I did meet two cuties there (one in Manila and the other in Ho Chi Minh City) I've met many more (briefly) that were gold-diggers and some I didn't meet because I learned their photos were part of a scam. Especially avoid the beautiful the Russian / East European girls there. So, be careful, my friends. And stay thirsty. (.) (.)
[QUOTE=David_33;1185414]That's because you play the guitar and sing to them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups;1185386]I've never met any DIA girls that asked for money. Dated a half a dozen of them. Some repeatedly.[/QUOTE]Really? I have met quite a few but none refused money. I never say I will pay money upfront. But I have always put some money in their purse on leaving.
Nobody has made a scene saying " what do you think I am a puta etc ".
Atleast 60% of the girls have asked me to send money for this and that on chatting first time. Some have run away when I said I never send money without meeting personally.
I've rarely had "ask for money on first chat" happen, and even then it was posed indirectly."I have a problem" Either you and I have a very different definition of "chatting' or your profile is attracting a certain type of gal.
As for money, I do offer taxi money. Enough to get her home and enough to get her back, and a bit more than that. That's what I say. I have had girls object.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1185545]Really? I have met quite a few but none refused money. I never say I will pay money upfront. But I have always put some money in their purse on leaving.
Nobody has made a scene saying " what do you think I am a puta etc ".
Atleast 60% of the girls have asked me to send money for this and that on chatting first time. Some have run away when I said I never send money without meeting personally.[/QUOTE]
Damn I'm starting to think I need to see a shrink, I keep checking out damn lady boys on DIA. I see one I like open up information and sure enough another lady boy. I've never seen ladyboys that are that attractive, and I've asked to see every girls I'd that I've took back. I'm still a little worried. There's probably like 1 in 10 on DIA, and I've definetely slept with more than 10 girls in Philippines. That math makes me want to go cry in the shower. Ha ha. I think I need to get big tittied asians out of my head. I feel like I'm on a quest for the holy grail.
I wouldn't worry about it Madisonguy, if you had been with a Filipina LB you would have known it. The evidence would have been in your face.
[QUOTE=X Man; 1185557]I've rarely had "ask for money on first chat" happen, and even then it was posed indirectly."I have a problem" Either you and I have a very different definition of "chatting' or your profile is attracting a certain type of gal.
As for money, I do offer taxi money. Enough to get her home and enough to get her back, and a bit more than that. That's what I say. I have had girls object.[/QUOTE]Most girls ask for money,
1. Can you help me to buy cam for my computer? I thought if she had her own computer, she could easily afford a cam.
2. I am not online much because I am a poor girl. Can you send some money so that I can chat with you every day?
3. My tutition fees are due tomorrow. I do not have enough. Can you help me?
4. Usual excuses like my mother / father / grandmother is in the hospital.
5. I do work in the fields. I do not like it. Can you support me?
6. I am looking forward to meeting you but I do not have nice clothes. Can you send me money so that I can look sexy for you?
It is true almost 60% have asked for money either in the begining or later.
Having said that I have met pretty young girls who have made excellent company, sex and travelling GFE from DIA. Overall it is less expensive and better service than P4P girls.
I will go so far as to say Sammon is a liar. I will admit that if a profile suggests that you are a sugar daddy, you will get sugar daddy replies. Sammon seems to have an agenda, but there we go. Maybe he can give us more details about how he deals with DIA and other gals in the Filippines.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1185645]Most girls ask for money,
1. Can you help me to buy cam for my computer? I thought if she had her own computer, she could easily afford a cam.
2. I am not online much because I am a poor girl. Can you send some money so that I can chat with you every day?
3. My tutition fees are due tomorrow. I do not have enough. Can you help me?
4. Usual excuses like my mother / father / grandmother is in the hospital.
5. I do work in the fields. I do not like it. Can you support me?
6. I am looking forward to meeting you but I do not have nice clothes. Can you send me money so that I can look sexy for you?
It is true almost 60% have asked for money either in the begining or later.
Having said that I have met pretty young girls who have made excellent company, sex and travelling GFE from DIA. Overall it is less expensive and better service than P4P girls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man;1185803]I will go so far as to say Sammon is a liar. I will admit that if a profile suggests that you are a sugar daddy, you will get sugar daddy replies. Sammon seems to have an agenda, but there we go. Maybe he can give us more details about how he deals with DIA and other gals in the Filippines.[/QUOTE]Actually X, I have had every one of those requests (problems) other than the one about working in the fields. I've also encountered the need for a wheelchair for grandma, the need for money to get work papers, and flood issues where there was clearly no flooding. As recently as yesterday I blocked a girl who was continually ass nagging me for money for a cam. Perhaps a new thread should be started on filipinas and their "problems". Such a thread ran several years ago on one of the DR boards. Could've been here. I don't remember.
Yes, I've heard a few tall tales myself. And I apologize to Sammon. I think he was overgeneralizing, but that is my judgement call and I should not have responded rudely.
I once tested a gal after one of the destructive typhoons.
X How are you?
GAL I'm fine.
Various meaningless chit chat.
X I see there was a typhoon in Philippines, were you affected?
(I could almost see the light bulb turn on in her cute little head)
GAL Yes, our house was destroyed. I don't know what to do.
[QUOTE=Slippery;1185901]Actually X, I have had every one of those requests (problems) other than the one about working in the fields. I've also encountered the need for a wheelchair for grandma, the need for money to get work papers, and flood issues where there was clearly no flooding. As recently as yesterday I blocked a girl who was continually ass nagging me for money for a cam. Perhaps a new thread should be started on filipinas and their "problems". Such a thread ran several years ago on one of the DR boards. Could've been here. I don't remember.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man;1185803]I will go so far as to say Sammon is a liar. I will admit that if a profile suggests that you are a sugar daddy, you will get sugar daddy replies. Sammon seems to have an agenda, but there we go. Maybe he can give us more details about how he deals with DIA and other gals in the Filippines.[/QUOTE]The agenda of all mongers searching DIA is to meet non-pro girls for romance and sometimes more. Some girls like you on cam and some run away. The ones who show interest and want to meet, I chat more.
Yes, I have sent money to them for buying tickets to meet me in Manila. So far only one girl failed to show up. Once you meet it depends on the chemistry to like each other. Ofcourse I have never failed to.
Give them enough money. I do not want to just give them just a few pesos. I do not want free sex knowing these girls really need the money.
But the bulk of the money is given only after meeting.
Yes, really. Of course I always give them some money before they go (and or go to dinner) but they've never requested.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1185545]Really? I have met quite a few but none refused money. I never say I will pay money upfront. But I have always put some money in their purse on leaving.
Nobody has made a scene saying " what do you think I am a puta etc ".
Atleast 60% of the girls have asked me to send money for this and that on chatting first time. Some have run away when I said I never send money without meeting personally.[/QUOTE]
"never requested". Well, I diagree with that too! Surely you've met some Golddiggers D cups. My sore point with Sammon was when he said "most girls ask for money". That just isn't my experience. Most do not. Maybe S meant most WANT money, or was just overgeneralizing about some of the chat tricksters, or something else. Again, I apologize to S for being a twit.
I always compensate somehow as well. Taxi money, or "buy a gift for you child", or whatever. One gal, very honest, says,"I took a jeepney and I will go home by jeepney."
My reply,"But it took so long for you to come here (they are almost always late) , next time just take a taxi. Use this money." The next day I had an unexpected no show, sent a text, and taxi money gal was on time, and with me for the next 15 hours or so. Money well spent. She got more taxi money.
I'm not exactly sure what D cups means by "go to dinner", but if you know a gal has a good income, is mid class, or otherwise has money, you are best off just paying for expenses. Such as "going to dinner". They will let you do this, bless their hearts. I had one gal. 30s, professionally employed, leave me in her bed to go to work and instructed the maid to cook me breakfast, and the driver to take me to the airport. The maid was really cute, but shy. I wish that would happen more often. X.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1186088]Yes, really. Of course I always give them some money before they go (and or go to dinner) but they've never requested.[/QUOTE]
Hi there I'm newbie from Manila.
I'm only 21yro and kind and sweet lady.
Every person is unique. All people are different have bad and good.
Thank you & take care.
Have a wonderfulday. From Sweetgirl manila.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1186073]The agenda of all mongers searching DIA is to meet non-pro girls for romance and sometimes more. Some girls like you on cam and some run away. The ones who show interest and want to meet, I chat more.
Yes, I have sent money to them for buying tickets to meet me in Manila. So far only one girl failed to show up. Once you meet it depends on the chemistry to like each other. Ofcourse I have never failed to.
Give them enough money. I do not want to just give them just a few pesos. I do not want free sex knowing these girls really need the money.
But the bulk of the money is given only after meeting.[/QUOTE]
However not most girls ask for money. I never give money in advance, but only after we finish our date or meeting.
If too many girls are asking for money, then maybe you are showing yourself as a wealthy person more than a person who wants love. Are you giving girls that vibe? When I actually meet the girls then they often don't mention money until the end.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1185645]Most girls ask for money,
1. Can you help me to buy cam for my computer? I thought if she had her own computer, she could easily afford a cam.
2. I am not online much because I am a poor girl. Can you send some money so that I can chat with you every day?
3. My tutition fees are due tomorrow. I do not have enough. Can you help me?
4. Usual excuses like my mother / father / grandmother is in the hospital.
5. I do work in the fields. I do not like it. Can you support me?
6. I am looking forward to meeting you but I do not have nice clothes. Can you send me money so that I can look sexy for you?
It is true almost 60% have asked for money either in the begining or later.
Having said that I have met pretty young girls who have made excellent company, sex and travelling GFE from DIA. Overall it is less expensive and better service than P4P girls.[/QUOTE]
It took me 30 minutes to get pussy if I wanted on DIA.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1183078]Nearly every girl I p4p has a dia profile. I let them use my computers after we sex I see they use fb dia and tagged some stay all day so I get to see what they do. Often if they are good I ask for thier fb. I have had girls texing dia guys saying they are at the mall when they are at my house in no rush to move on some girls will stop replying text while they are in my house (I tell them they can). Dia is just a escort site to most pina. It is a biz to them. The guys who boast they get free casual sex are making it so these girls stop working as they find other ways to make money they ask ne to find a bf for them as they want full time. There are girls working dia who will marry as it better for them to have a full time rather than casual.
Also Pino guys help the wife / gf setup dia I know guys who do. The girls tell you what you want as they just need cash.
I like dia but it takes alot of tine to get pussy. I only use it to find 30 kg. I use fb more as I get better results for my time.[/QUOTE]
If this has been covered before, please excuse the repetition.
I do not have time to search this now.
Here are some generalizations I have found from Filipinas on DIA.
Curious to know if you agree, disagree and what generalizations you have
Made independent of mine and your interpretations of what you have found.
1) A large percentage lie in chat. Same for their profiles. When you call.
Them on their lies they make some excuse-I used to live there, someone.
Posted that for me, I had a job, now not, I am single because I am separated now,
Etc. Etc.
2) Most Filipinas have passive aggressive personalities-they fein like.
They don't hear or don't understand your questions because they simply don't want
To answer. If you ask them to do something they say they will then they don't.
They make promises they do not keep. Most are unreliable and untrustworthy.
In that respect.
3) most have stories designed to cover up things they don't want you.
To know about or that put them in a bad light.
4) they are bullshit artists, very good at trying to pull the wool over.
Your eyes.
5) the fein how much they love you, understand you, respect you, etc.
They are attempting to try to establish a bond that you will not walk away.
From. Very manipulative. They are not real. They do not respond
Spontaneously, but almost like from a script. In fact I often wonder
If they are working some boilerplate operation under guidance from
Stupidvisors.
6) they are almost uniformly JEALOUS more so than most American cunts.
7) they take FOREVER to do things, including typing. Their English is usually substandard, sometimes terribly so. Most cannot carry an intelligent conversation.
As you can see, I am not just looking for a f*ck buddy.
There are many more, but this is just a few off the top of my head.
After years of chatting, I have yet to find one Filipina who is totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying. I guess my expectations are too high. Hard to justify spending all that money if looking for a mate to fly to the RP for the likes of those you find on DIA.
I really don't know what the solution is to finding a good woman. It may.
Not be possible on DIA. Sad because I like the way the site is set up.
Turdycurdyone,
I can relate to all except maybe #5. Some of them are sincere but they may be the exception. I'm running another battery of "tests" in Nov and March so I'll publish my findings then.
Dating websites are repositories for liars regardless of their source. Even eharmony and match dot com. To me, it's all bullshit until you physically meet them and get to know them.
There are different categories of men looking.
1. Looking for serious relationship and intending to marry and take her to your country.
2. Looking for serious relationship, marriage and intending to settle in Phi.
3. Looking for long time monogamous relationship for people who go to Phi and stay extended length of time.
4. Looking for company to travel and enjoy for frequent visitors to Phi.
5. Looking to meet up with as many women as you can and try to get into their pants either by promise money, relationship.
6. Explicitely looking for fuck buddies only.
Chatting girls have met all these categories of men.
I disagree with some, I mean every girl is different so it's hard to generalize but things like jealousy are pretty normal with all females. I have some girls tell me too much info in my opinion, I'll ask what clubs they go to and when I hear Icon and Havana I'm like damn that'd be like me telling a girl I go to strip clubs all the time. I notice that some of the girls in DIA seems to be on for the fast meet and great which is odd so those girls I delete, or girls that ask no questions, with no effort it's a waste of time to me. I still have yet to have a girl ask me for money though, not even in a round about way. I thought some were going to if they mention someone dying or something I would roll my eyes and be like ok here it comes, but nothing ever followed it. The only thing that irritates me a little is when they have perfect smiles in their photo and then they have braces on cam, huge turn off for me. I was pretty hesitant to waste time with something like DIA, but I'm glad I tried it, they all have cam so it's good to know what they actually look like and it's a more solid plan to have a girl ready to meet you then trying luck at the mall or something. The most solid ones I meet though are not on DIA, they came from other sites. I think with DIA they get so overwhelmed with emails that they can't spend that much time talking to any 1 guy, I could be wrong but that's just a guess.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1186430]If this has been covered before, please excuse the repetition.
I do not have time to search this now.
Here are some generalizations I have found from Filipinas on DIA.
Curious to know if you agree, disagree and what generalizations you have
Made independent of mine and your interpretations of what you have found.
1) A large percentage lie in chat. Same for their profiles. When you call.
Them on their lies they make some excuse-I used to live there, someone.
Posted that for me, I had a job, now not, I am single because I am separated now,
Etc. Etc.
2) Most Filipinas have passive aggressive personalities-they fein like.
They don't hear or don't understand your questions because they simply don't want
To answer. If you ask them to do something they say they will then they don't.
They make promises they do not keep. Most are unreliable and untrustworthy.
In that respect.
3) most have stories designed to cover up things they don't want you.
To know about or that put them in a bad light.
4) they are bullshit artists, very good at trying to pull the wool over.
Your eyes.
5) the fein how much they love you, understand you, respect you, etc.
They are attempting to try to establish a bond that you will not walk away.
From. Very manipulative. They are not real. They do not respond
Spontaneously, but almost like from a script. In fact I often wonder
If they are working some boilerplate operation under guidance from
Stupidvisors.
6) they are almost uniformly JEALOUS more so than most American cunts.
7) they take FOREVER to do things, including typing. Their English is usually substandard, sometimes terribly so. Most cannot carry an intelligent conversation.
As you can see, I am not just looking for a f*ck buddy.
There are many more, but this is just a few off the top of my head.
After years of chatting, I have yet to find one Filipina who is totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying. I guess my expectations are too high. Hard to justify spending all that money if looking for a mate to fly to the RP for the likes of those you find on DIA.
I really don't know what the solution is to finding a good woman. It may.
Not be possible on DIA. Sad because I like the way the site is set up.[/QUOTE]
Here is one from DIA:
Common and get me.
Intelligent, have sense of humor, beautiful, fun to be with, friendly, kind and loving.
Yep, she probably says that in person "I want you to common and get me." Who wants to go marry that one and take her to your office party? LOL.
Here is one from DIA:
"Common and get me.
Intelligent, have sense of humor, beautiful, fun to be with, friendly, kind and loving."
Yep, she probably says that in person "I want you to common and get me." Who wants to go marry that one and take her to your office party? LOL.
Here is one from DIA:
"Common and get me.
Intelligent, have sense of humor, beautiful, fun to be with, friendly, kind and loving."
Yep, she probably says that in person "I want you to common and get me." Who wants to go marry that one and take her to your office party? LOL.
[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010; 1186605]Here is one from DIA:
"Common and get me.
Intelligent, have sense of humor, beautiful, fun to be with, friendly, kind and loving."
Yep, she probably says that in person "I want you to common and get me." Who wants to go marry that one and take her to your office party? LOL.[/QUOTE]And all three times I failed to see what was so funny.
This kind of post by TC1 comes up every now and then.
I read it through, and what springs to mind is that if the filipinas had a similar forum to this, they would say exactly the same about the men that they chat with.
So TC1:
Do you always speak the absolute truth when chatting?
Do you always answer exactly the question that they ask?
Do you have stories designed to cover up things you don't want them tTo know about or that put you in a bad light?
Do you never talk bullshit to a chat mate?
Do you never tell them that you love them when you don't?
Remember that their native language is tagalog or visayan or cebuana. So you should be chatting with them in their language. Then see how much they laugh at your stumbling, bumbling incompetence. Many of them will speak 3 languages.
I sometimes listen to the bullshit that guys spin to the girls in the bars, and I try to imagine how many lies are told to them every day. It must be thousands.
When I talk with some girls on the chat sites, they universally tell me of the vast proportion of guys who are liars, cheats, just want them to show their tits, totally insincere etc.
As Jesus Christ said "Let he who is without guilt cast the first stone"
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1186430]If this has been covered before, please excuse the repetition.
I do not have time to search this now.
Here are some generalizations I have found from Filipinas on DIA.
Curious to know if you agree, disagree and what generalizations you have
Made independent of mine and your interpretations of what you have found.
1) A large percentage lie in chat. Same for their profiles. When you call.
Them on their lies they make some excuse-I used to live there, someone.
Posted that for me, I had a job, now not, I am single because I am separated now,
Etc. Etc.
2) Most Filipinas have passive aggressive personalities-they fein like.
They don't hear or don't understand your questions because they simply don't want
To answer. If you ask them to do something they say they will then they don't.
They make promises they do not keep. Most are unreliable and untrustworthy.
In that respect.
3) most have stories designed to cover up things they don't want you.
To know about or that put them in a bad light.
4) they are bullshit artists, very good at trying to pull the wool over.
Your eyes.
5) the fein how much they love you, understand you, respect you, etc.
They are attempting to try to establish a bond that you will not walk away.
From. Very manipulative. They are not real. They do not respond
Spontaneously, but almost like from a script. In fact I often wonder
If they are working some boilerplate operation under guidance from
Stupidvisors.
6) they are almost uniformly JEALOUS more so than most American cunts.
7) they take FOREVER to do things, including typing. Their English is usually substandard, sometimes terribly so. Most cannot carry an intelligent conversation.
As you can see, I am not just looking for a f*ck buddy.
There are many more, but this is just a few off the top of my head.
After years of chatting, I have yet to find one Filipina who is totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying. I guess my expectations are too high. Hard to justify spending all that money if looking for a mate to fly to the RP for the likes of those you find on DIA.
I really don't know what the solution is to finding a good woman. It may.
Not be possible on DIA. Sad because I like the way the site is set up.[/QUOTE]
Native speakers always say C'mon which is derived from come on. I'm thinking of that Elvis Presely song as I write this. I don't see why you think less of her just because of a minor spelling mistake. The rest of the passage seems very well written.
[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010; 1186605]Here is one from DIA:
"Common and get me.
Intelligent, have sense of humor, beautiful, fun to be with, friendly, kind and loving."
Yep, she probably says that in person "I want you to common and get me." Who wants to go marry that one and take her to your office party? LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1186430]If this has been covered before, please excuse the repetition.
After years of chatting, I have yet to find one Filipina who is totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying. I guess my expectations are too high. Hard to justify spending all that money if looking for a mate to fly to the RP for the likes of those you find on DIA.
I really don't know what the solution is to finding a good woman. It may.
Not be possible on DIA. Sad because I like the way the site is set up.[/QUOTE]If you have been in the game for a few years now you really should have realised that Philippines is simply not the place to find a woman who is "totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying." if you are looking to impress your office mates (other than physically). IN my experience you have a much better chance of meeting such a woman in China but you would probably have to accept a smaller age gap than is possible in the Phils.
[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010; 1186605]Here is one from DIA:
"Common and get me.
Intelligent, have sense of humor, beautiful, fun to be with, friendly, kind and loving."
Yep, she probably says that in person "I want you to common and get me." Who wants to go marry that one and take her to your office party? LOL.[/QUOTE]She has probably received an education costing a total of $2, 000-10, 000, whereas yours probably cost $100, 000-500, 000? So maybe we can cut this girl some slack?
I don't think it's right either to make fun of a girl's lack of grammar. They're in a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-poor country and it's unfortunate most of them have low educational attainment.
Besides, why not learn Tagalog and try your hand at writing your DIA profile entirely in Tagalog and see how retarded you sound to them.
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1186676]If you have been in the game for a few years now you really should have realised that Philippines is simply not the place to find a woman who is "totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying." if you are looking to impress your office mates (other than physically). IN my experience you have a much better chance of meeting such a woman in China but you would probably have to accept a smaller age gap than is possible in the Phils.[/QUOTE]Very true! It would be a challenge finding such a woman anywhere but it is fair to say that the Philippines is the last place he should be looking. I recently met a European gentleman who was married to a Filipina and residing there for many years. His conclusion was that while the Philippines makes for a wonderful playground it is a terrible place to look for a life mate. Anyone visiting or living in the Philippines would know that honesty is a rare character trait among the natives, and it becomes increasingly rare when dealing with foreigners. The women are very loyal, just not to you. Their loyalty lies with their family. You are an outsider and always will be, marriage and kids does not change your status. They are quite capable at sex and creating reasons for you to open your wallet but not much else. If they're dependable they're not looking for foreigners online. The whole point of getting a foreigner is having someone they can depend on with an unlimited and steady cash flow to fund shopping for status symbols, support her extensive family, and take care of all those little emergencies that seem to occur with maddening regularity. You cannot depend on them to be any place on time or to stick to any course of action agreed upon. It seems like their minds are constantly changing. When your money is involved the indecisiveness seems to increase. Filipinas also seem to suffer from a periodic flux of emotions, a mysterious period when they're afflicted with mood swings and a sullen nature for no apparent reason. During this period they may not communicate leaving you at a total loss as to what ails your little brown sex bunny. To a Westerner this can be very unsettling and will probably not make for a very happy relationship unless you can ignore it and continue with your own activities.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1186762]Very true! It would be a challenge finding such a woman anywhere but it is fair to say that the Philippines is the last place he should be looking. I recently met a European gentleman who was married to a Filipina and residing there for many years. His conclusion was that while the Philippines makes for a wonderful playground it is a terrible place to look for a life mate. Anyone visiting or living in the Philippines would know that honesty is a rare character trait among the natives, and it becomes increasingly rare when dealing with foreigners. The women are very loyal, just not to you. Their loyalty lies with their family. You are an outsider and always will be, marriage and kids does not change your status. They are quite capable at sex and creating reasons for you to open your wallet but not much else. If they're dependable they're not looking for foreigners online. The whole point of getting a foreigner is having someone they can depend on with an unlimited and steady cash flow to fund shopping for status symbols, support her extensive family, and take care of all those little emergencies that seem to occur with maddening regularity. You cannot depend on them to be any place on time or to stick to any course of action agreed upon. It seems like their minds are constantly changing. When your money is involved the indecisiveness seems to increase. Filipinas also seem to suffer from a periodic flux of emotions, a mysterious period when they're afflicted with mood swings and a sullen nature for no apparent reason. During this period they may not communicate leaving you at a total loss as to what ails your little brown sex bunny. To a Westerner this can be very unsettling and will probably not make for a very happy relationship unless you can ignore it and continue with your own activities.[/QUOTE]There are certainly many guys who have married Filipinas who are fairly much as CM describes. In fairness I also know some who have had their life transformed and massively enriched by a Filipina wife, but you do need to either be lucky or really go in with your eyes open. Regarding honesty I agree that the whole of Philippines culture is steeped in lieing and dishonesty so probably the best you can do is find a girl who lies just 10% of the time rather than the more typical percentage 20-70. I have mixed views on the loyalty to the family question. We come from societies where many kids have zero respect or sense of indebtedness to their parents. One of my Filipina friends actually has almost no immediate family. Her mum died in delivering my friend who was the first and only born, her Dad then took to drink and she was raised by her grandparents who have now died. One potential Western suitor asked her whether she would send any money back to her family if he were to marry her and bring her to the UK. She answered that though her father had not cared for her whilst she was growing up he was still her father and she would like to send him enough, probably a couple of hundred dollars a month, from any job that she got in the West (she is a trained nurse) for him to survive moderately comfortably in the province. Her potential boyfriend told her this was tantamount to her being a prostitute and immediately deleted her from his contacts. At the other extreme there are of course plenty of young girls who are to an extent "taking one for the team" in marrying a much older and unattractive guy, primarily with the idea of underwriting the financial security of the wider family. Again if this is a question of sponsoring a younger sibling through college, that is one thing and it's very much how families work in the Phils. If it's a question of financing uncle's drugs / drink habit that's another matter.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1186762]Anyone visiting or living in the Philippines would know that honesty is a rare character trait among the natives, and it becomes increasingly rare when dealing with foreigners. The women are very loyal, just not to you. Their loyalty lies with their family. You are an outsider and always will be, marriage and kids does not change your status.[/QUOTE]Interesting conversation several years ago with a long-running lover in phils. It was one of my first real introductions as to how sneaky pilipinos can be. There is no pretext with this girl, we just like having sex and traveling. She's older, a grandmother now (well, she's 37 at the time). We went to her province and visited her family. While at the family home, sitting outside in the shade drinking juice, next door a european gent walked outside with a pinay, shortly followed by several of her family. A mild argument was ensuing between the gent and the girl. He clearly did NOT want her cousin (a young man standing with the family) to come back to the hotel with the two of them. She was wanting the cousin to come to the hotel in the tryke."Even he sleep the floor." The gent thru up his hands and walked up the street, the girl following. They disappeared and the family and cousin went into the home.
Talking with my girl and her sister (half her family is sitting there but speaks little or no english) , it came out that the cousin was really the pinay's boyfriend. I thought euro-gent was her bf."No thats her cano. He's forin boyfriend. He don't know." They said that since euro-gent would not allow the boy to go with them, the family would soon txt the girl to come home, and,"hehe her bf will sex that girl and the family send her back to that foriner's hotel." (that's the sister speaking). My girl said that the girl is being reminded of her loyalties: "her family her boyfriend her cano," apparently in that order.
[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010; 1186600]Here is one from DIA:
Common and get me.
Intelligent, have sense of humor, beautiful, fun to be with, friendly, kind and loving.
Yep, she probably says that in person "I want you to common and get me." Who wants to go marry that one and take her to your office party? LOL.[/QUOTE]Good to see that almost uniformaly members don't find anything humourous or funny with commenting on a girls grammar. Compare the educational standards then you would understand. I spent a day a few months back in University of Philipiines, Diliman, QC. Huge area but also full of squatters, trikes, old ramshackle buildings. This is one of most popular universities. So you can only imagine the standard in some of the colleges etc. Have a heart BL and check that your own grammar is 100% perfect all the time.
[QUOTE=Gangles;1186624]When I talk with some girls on the chat sites, they universally tell me of the vast proportion of guys who are liars, cheats, just want them to show their tits, totally insincere etc.[/QUOTE]I hear that same thing sometimes with the girl I chat with. Then I show up and get to play with their tits for real!
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1186676]If you have been in the game for a few years now you really should have realised that Philippines is simply not the place to find a woman who is "totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying."[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Very true! It would be a challenge finding such a woman anywhere but it is fair to say that the Philippines is the last place he should be looking. I recently met a European gentleman who was married to a Filipina and residing there for many years. His conclusion was that while the Philippines makes for a wonderful playground it is a terrible place to look for a life mate.[/QUOTE]You guys have said a mouthful. I was recently hanging out in Pattaya with a monger from the board who lives in San Diego. I used to be stationed there 20 years ago and would always go to a club called the Trophy Lounge where one could always find willing Pinays. I have been back to San Diego many times since but never get the chance to visit the club. I made it there one night last year when I was on my way to Tijuana, but it was 1a.m. and the guy outside would not let me in because they were getting ready to close so I continued on.
Well the other monger explained to me that things are not the same as before. He said before Pinatubo blew military guys were always bringing in a fresh supply of Filipinas to the west coast, but when the military high-tailed it out there went the supply. So as before when you could always count on the loose women in the club, it would in fact be that generation's offspring whose turn it would be to take over the reins of looseness. However, their kids grew up in the USA and are more educated and are not out there like their mothers used to be. He further explained that if I went to the club I would still be able to get some Filipinas, but it would be the same ones I saw 20 years ago who are now 20 years older because there has not been a fresh supply of native Pinays for the last 20 years.
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1186676]If you have been in the game for a few years now you really should have realised that Philippines is simply not the place to find a woman who is "totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying." if you are looking to impress your office mates (other than physically).[/QUOTE]Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.
Maybe its a different time but I have been married to a sweet, really cute and loving Filipina for 25 years. I met her through a dating organization before there was an Internet. We wrote back and forth for months and then met in Manila. All I can say is I married up. She was raised in a middle class family, educated in Engineering, and a whole lot smarter than I am. She manages the household finances and does a damn good job of taking care of me. When I was injured and in hospital she visited and helped the nurses tend to me. She is very tolerant of my foibles and my physical limitation of disability. I have never strayed for fear of screwing up a good thing.
All I can say is, if you pick wisely, you too can find your "dream girl." I see Filipina nurses and med techs all over town, so maybe you don't even need to go all the way to the P. I. To find a good woman.
Slim
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1186762]Anyone visiting or living in the Philippines would know that honesty is a rare character trait among the natives, and it becomes increasingly rare when dealing with foreigners. The women are very loyal, just not to you. Their loyalty lies with their family. You are an outsider and always will be, marriage and kids does not change your status. They are quite capable at sex and creating reasons for you to open your wallet but not much else. If they're dependable they're not looking for foreigners online. The whole point of getting a foreigner is having someone they can depend on with an unlimited and steady cash flow to fund shopping for status symbols, support her extensive family, and take care of all those little emergencies that seem to occur with maddening regularity. You cannot depend on them to be any place on time or to stick to any course of action agreed upon. It seems like their minds are constantly changing. When your money is involved the indecisiveness seems to increase. Filipinas also seem to suffer from a periodic flux of emotions, a mysterious period when they're afflicted with mood swings and a sullen nature for no apparent reason. During this period they may not communicate leaving you at a total loss as to what ails your little brown sex bunny. To a Westerner this can be very unsettling and will probably not make for a very happy relationship unless you can ignore it and continue with your own activities.[/QUOTE]WOW Chocha Monger, I've read many of your posts for the past year and I have to say, that I have a new sense of respect for you sir. Everything you have said above describes the Philippines female race perfectly. You have proven in your statement of your knowledge and understanding of Filipinas.
Thanks for you insight. Hope you keep up the good work so that we will someday understand as much as you.
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One of your many faithful readers,
Roycankor
[QUOTE=Roycankor; 1187378]WOW Chocha Monger, I've read many of your posts for the past year and I have to say, that I have a new sense of respect for you sir. Everything you have said above describes the Philippines female race perfectly. You have proven in your statement of your knowledge and understanding of Filipinas.
Thanks for you insight. Hope you keep up the good work so that we will someday understand as much as you.
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One of your many faithful readers,
Roycankor[/QUOTE]Wot are you an aspiring cynical, embittered old bastard? It is fun (in a wrist slashing sort of way) to read a few of CM'S posts but the less intellectually challenged quickly see that his expressed viewpoint is rather one dimensional but couched in such an articulate and streetwise witty fashion that you begin to half believe him. Who knows with ISG, he maybe lives with his 300 pound mommy in a backswood trailer in some godforsaken midwest shithole and the nearest he has been to a Filipina is listening to Lea Salonga wail on Miss Saigon!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1187461]Wot are you an aspiring cynical, embittered old bastard? It is fun (in a wrist slashing sort of way) to read a few of CM'S posts but the less intellectually challenged quickly see that his expressed viewpoint is rather one dimensional but couched in such an articulate and streetwise witty fashion that you begin to half believe him. Who knows with ISG, he maybe lives with his 300 pound mommy in a backswood trailer in some godforsaken midwest shithole and the nearest he has been to a Filipina is listening to Lea Salonga wail on Miss Saigon![/QUOTE]Come now Cunning Stunt, were I not to know better I would say I detect a hint of jealousy. Hahaha! I can assure you that I am well learned in the physiology and habits of Filipina kunt. In fact, my last field study of this fascinating creature was as recent as a week ago. From the moment I attained my years of discretion I went into Socratic mode and entered disputations on the nature and behavior of kunt in different times and different climes. I often examine the sly nature of kunt in my writings which are most instructive and delightful without in anyway being pedantic. While some prefer to concentrate their efforts on documenting the aesthetics of Filipina, and other, kunt in its natural environment I have chosen to specialize in the ecology of kunt. Why not? It surrounds us and impacts our lives on a daily basis. Most men spend a significant part of their lives pursuing it and musing on its qualities except for poofters. I have written extensively on the species know as the American kunt, however, after reading and hearing enthusiastic ravings about Filipina kunt I thought it merited closer study. I couldn't help but wonder if by chance I had missed out on the panacea for the ills associated with the American kuntry only to discover that the Filipina variety brings its own brand of peculiarities. So, perhaps, if you feel half persuaded by my arguments maybe it is because deep inside you know I speak the truth but you are conflicted by the desperate need of your penis to indulge in the pleasures of Filipina kunt. My sojourns in corn country have been solely for business and never of enough duration to be considered a resident. I don't live with dear old mom. It's a shame because I could save myself quite a bit of money better spent on field studies instead of lodging and what not. Also, surprisingly mom is not 300 lbs. Somehow she dodged the fate of many women in the Western hemisphere. Anyhow, please don't bash the loyal readership. I am sure they are competent enough compare individual experiences with the material published on ISG and arrive at their own conclusions.
Just to throw my 2 cents worth pina are very loyal to their family, I have met pina in cebu and sydney and all display the same characteristics. That is why there is 10% working overseas sending money back home.
I do not see it as a problem it just how they are. Any one who denies it I living the lie not the dream
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1187491]Come now Cunning Stunt.[/QUOTE]Hahaha....just trying to provoke a little discussion above and beyond the usual repetitive, banal pussyhunting prose that is mainly found here. And was amused by the tones of slavish hero worship that your world weary ramblings seems to attract. It must be in direct counterpoint and contrast, that this land of the bubbly gummy, culturally sterile and mindless seem too attract a certain kind of reflective and philosophising monger...LOL. In which case, you are our resident doom and gloom nihilist.
I'll bet that under that cynical teflon crust beats the cotton wool heart of a teddy bear....or maybe not:D.
I respectfully disagree with CM and GL. Man, you are guys are tainted beyond belief. Thanks, Nvslim for the counterpoint and testimonial that Pinays make better wives than just about any other race on Earth. Sure, you got to pay for the family but you got to pay for other bullshit no matter who you marry. I personally know several Westerners who married Pinays who are infinitely happier than anyone else.
As for the banter between CM and CS, keep the hate mail coming. Quite entertaining to see you two guys slam each other.
[QUOTE=Roycankor; 1187378]WOW Chocha Monger, I've read many of your posts for the past year and I have to say, that I have a new sense of respect for you sir. Everything you have said above describes the Philippines female race perfectly. You have proven in your statement of your knowledge and understanding of Filipinas.
Thanks for you insight. Hope you keep up the good work so that we will someday understand as much as you.
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One of your many faithful readers,
Roycankor[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups;1187674]Thanks, Nvslim for the counterpoint and testimonial that Pinays make better wives than just about any other race on Earth.[/QUOTE]So when are you going to stop your world wide quest for big boobs (posted on myriad country threads), and tie the knot?
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1186762]Filipinas also seem to suffer from a periodic flux of emotions, a mysterious period when they're afflicted with mood swings and a sullen nature for no apparent reason. During this period they may not communicate leaving you at a total loss as to what ails your little brown sex bunny.[/QUOTE]I've noticed this with the girls. What is the reason for it? It is very bizarre.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1186762]Filipinas also seem to suffer from a periodic flux of emotions, a mysterious period when they're afflicted with mood swings and a sullen nature for no apparent reason. During this period they may not communicate leaving you at a total loss as to what ails your little brown sex bunny. To a Westerner this can be very unsettling and will probably not make for a very happy relationship unless you can ignore it and continue with your own activities.[/QUOTE]I will bow down to the experts here, but I'm pretty sure this big sulk is well documented and there is even a word for it in Tagalog . "Tampo"
Google Tampo and Filipina big sulk and you can read a lot more.
It seems to be cause by you breaking some minor and unwritten "rule" and sounds childish, which is exactly the level the culture operates on IMHO.
The "cure" for Tampo is an equally childish response. Apologise profusely for hurting her (even though it is a mystery) Buy her a fluffy toy or flowers. Cute / sweet is important Forget Jewels. Waste of $.
Soon your bunny will be back. Perhaps instantly. You may even learn what you crime was. If you do discover what is your crime do NOT debate the issue or try to use logic. Simply agree look sad and give her another toy.
Based on limited experience and some reading this is my interpretation. Any expert advice out there?
Its all cultural. Tampo does not influence me a bit. She can go on tampo. I can go elsewhere. So who is she fooling?
[QUOTE=Radoboy; 1187815]I will bow down to the experts here, but I'm pretty sure this big sulk is well documented and there is even a word for it in Tagalog."Tampo"
Google Tampo and Filipina big sulk and you can read a lot more.
It seems to be cause by you breaking some minor and unwritten "rule" and sounds childish, which is exactly the level the culture operates on IMHO.
The "cure" for Tampo is an equally childish response. Apologise profusely for hurting her (even though it is a mystery) Buy her a fluffy toy or flowers. Cute / sweet is important Forget Jewels. Waste of $.
Soon your bunny will be back. Perhaps instantly. You may even learn what you crime was. If you do discover what is your crime do NOT debate the issue or try to use logic. Simply agree look sad and give her another toy.
Any expert advice out there?[/QUOTE]Theres another more common word, that of "suplada" (suplado if its the male version) which can mean anything from "long face, bad mood, sulk " etc.
Philippines is filled with people who show emotions, good and bad, happy and sad versus the Chinese korean and japanese versions which tend to hide emotions. Treat Filipinas having a sulk as you would any other woman's mood.
Either ignore it, pander to it, whatever way works depending on your level of desperation to get in her panties.
[QUOTE=D Cups; 1187674]I respectfully disagree with CM and GL. Man, you are guys are tainted beyond belief. Thanks, Nvslim for the counterpoint and testimonial that Pinays make better wives than just about any other race on Earth. Sure, you got to pay for the family but you got to pay for other bullshit no matter who you marry. I personally know several Westerners who married Pinays who are infinitely happier than anyone else.
As for the banter between CM and CS, keep the hate mail coming. Quite entertaining to see you two guys slam each other.[/QUOTE]Couple of years back we had a similar discussion about wives and all that goes with that.
I'm in eternal thanks that I got seriously lucky as far as finding a super wife and the family basically has requested nothing. And almsot 25 years later things are rolling along nicely.
I think as long as theres a clear separation between the mongering world of short time liasons and the other world where there are long term normal relations things are fine.
When mongers try and find wife material in the short term pools, sure their opinions are tainted by the fact that the girls lie to them as much as we lie to the girls.
That old song title " looking for love in all the wrong places " comes to mind.
[QUOTE=Radoboy;1187815]Based on limited experience and some reading this is my interpretation. Any expert advice out there?[/QUOTE]Yep. My expert advice is the say "bi*ch please" then go find another one.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1186762]Very true! It would be a challenge finding such a woman anywhere but it is fair to say that the Philippines is the last place he should be looking. I recently met a European gentleman who was married to a Filipina and residing there for many years. His conclusion was that while the Philippines makes for a wonderful playground it is a terrible place to look for a life mate. Anyone visiting or living in the Philippines would know that honesty is a rare character trait among the natives, and it becomes increasingly rare when dealing with foreigners. The women are very loyal, just not to you. Their loyalty lies with their family. You are an outsider and always will be, marriage and kids does not change your status. They are quite capable at sex and creating reasons for you to open your wallet but not much else. If they're dependable they're not looking for foreigners online. The whole point of getting a foreigner is having someone they can depend on with an unlimited and steady cash flow to fund shopping for status symbols, support her extensive family, and take care of all those little emergencies that seem to occur with maddening regularity. You cannot depend on them to be any place on time or to stick to any course of action agreed upon. It seems like their minds are constantly changing. When your money is involved the indecisiveness seems to increase. Filipinas also seem to suffer from a periodic flux of emotions, a mysterious period when they're afflicted with mood swings and a sullen nature for no apparent reason. During this period they may not communicate leaving you at a total loss as to what ails your little brown sex bunny. To a Westerner this can be very unsettling and will probably not make for a very happy relationship unless you can ignore it and continue with your own activities.[/QUOTE]Well, I might have been lucky. But I know several equally honest Filipina's as the one I'm married to, since 11 years.
She lives here with me in Europe, finished university in Manila which was converted to an equally value here in Belgium and has a stable job in a medical lab. We both share our all expenses, from the mortgage of our house to the groceries, anything. She often treat me with surprises too. She let me go on holiday to Asia and beyond. 3 times a year BY MYSELF and even help me financially sometimes when I wish to make a world trip anywhere.
I don't know if you have ever been outside the mongering streets or MBC of Manila, but I doubt you ever have. You seems only to be able to sum up the negative side of Filipinas without respect.
Well, I have been traveling the world over for pleasure (not just mongering) and still do, and met the most loving ladies, which I believe you have'nt been outside Angeles or Pattaya. Be polite and respectfull. Hang that Bermuda short and singlet shirt on the hook, shave yourself and put on some eau de toilete. Go to a decent place and who knows you might bump into a 'little brown sexy bunny' as what you call them which is not after your hard earned $$$. With all due respect but I never paid for sex and will never do because I know beforehand that these kind of lady is'nt worth the time. The best sex is free!
The reason many of you feel Filipinas are cheaters and scammers is, they're the ones desperate enough to date or marry foreigners. Your average honest and decent Filipina would much prefer a nice, God-fearing Pinoy with a nice job from a traditional family. These Pinays are certainly not in the bars or trolling dating websites. I hope you aren't naive to think that a cute 21 year old Filipina would really prefer to date / marry some fat 60 year old ex-military expat.
I'm originally from Hong Kong where 200, 000 Filipinas are hired as domestic caregivers. If Filipinas are such scammers, do you think so many Hong Kong employers would entrust them to care for their children and elderly?
Like any society, you have the good, bad and ugly. The girls who would interact with us mongers come from the bottom of the Philippine barrel. And naturally, our impression of an ethnic group comes from our limited interactions with a few of them. If you want to meet a nice Pinay, you surely won't find them in the bars or websites. You'll need to invest time to be in their country.
Good post FF, but you can find nice gals on the websites. And maybe in the bars too. They don't stay in the bars long though, they get snatched up pretty quickly. I realize you were generalizing.
Hong Kong? FF, is that where you developed your taste for Filipina? The first time I went to HK (1981) , my buddy and I picked up a couple Filipina nannies and had a great time. X.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1187925]The reason many of you feel Filipinas are cheaters and scammers is, they're the ones desperate enough to date or marry foreigners. Your average honest and decent Filipina would much prefer a nice, God-fearing Pinoy with a nice job from a traditional family. These Pinays are certainly not in the bars or trolling dating websites. I hope you aren't naive to think that a cute 21 year old Filipina would really prefer to date / marry some fat 60 year old ex-military expat.
I'm originally from Hong Kong where 200, 000 Filipinas are hired as domestic caregivers. If Filipinas are such scammers, do you think so many Hong Kong employers would entrust them to care for their children and elderly?
Like any society, you have the good, bad and ugly. The girls who would interact with us mongers come from the bottom of the Philippine barrel. And naturally, our impression of an ethnic group comes from our limited interactions with a few of them. If you want to meet a nice Pinay, you surely won't find them in the bars or websites. You'll need to invest time to be in their country.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1187925]The reason many of you feel Filipinas are cheaters and scammers is, they're the ones desperate enough to date or marry foreigners. Your average honest and decent Filipina would much prefer a nice, God-fearing Pinoy with a nice job from a traditional family. These Pinays are certainly not in the bars or trolling dating websites. I hope you aren't naive to think that a cute 21 year old Filipina would really prefer to date / marry some fat 60 year old ex-military expat.
I'm originally from Hong Kong where 200, 000 Filipinas are hired as domestic caregivers. If Filipinas are such scammers, do you think so many Hong Kong employers would entrust them to care for their children and elderly?
Like any society, you have the good, bad and ugly. The girls who would interact with us mongers come from the bottom of the Philippine barrel. And naturally, our impression of an ethnic group comes from our limited interactions with a few of them. If you want to meet a nice Pinay, you surely won't find them in the bars or websites. You'll need to invest time to be in their country.[/QUOTE]The problem is, filipinas are no more poor than surrounding asian countries, yet such a large percentage of them do the wild things so easily, that it makes them look bad. My dating site contacts (pinay) often: offer cam shows, agree to travel with me or sleep with me, or ask money in the first 2 or 3 chats. I meet local girls in filipines (non dating site contacts) who do pretty much same. I run into much less of that anywhere else. The girls who interact with mongers come from the bottom of the barrel in any country, but there seems to be a much larger percentage of pinay bad-girls than any other place. Thoughts?
[QUOTE=D Cups;1187993]Are you the guy that frequents Peru a lot? .[/QUOTE]I live there. Big natural boobs scarce, so don't bother asking.
Originally Posted by D Cups
Are you the guy that frequents Peru a lot? .
[QUOTE=David_33;1188031]I live there. Big natural boobs scarce, so don't bother asking.[/QUOTE]Ok thats just funny!
[QUOTE=Asianatic; 1187912]Well, I might have been lucky. But I know several equally honest Filipina's as the one I'm married to, since 11 years.
She lives here with me in Europe, finished university in Manila which was converted to an equally value here in Belgium and has a stable job in a medical lab. We both share our all expenses, from the mortgage of our house to the groceries, anything. She often treat me with surprises too. She let me go on holiday to Asia and beyond. 3 times a year BY MYSELF and even help me financially sometimes when I wish to make a world trip anywhere.
I don't know if you have ever been outside the mongering streets or MBC of Manila, but I doubt you ever have. You seems only to be able to sum up the negative side of Filipinas without respect.
Well, I have been traveling the world over for pleasure (not just mongering) and still do, and met the most loving ladies, which I believe you have'nt been outside Angeles or Pattaya. Be polite and respectfull. Hang that Bermuda short and singlet shirt on the hook, shave yourself and put on some eau de toilete. Go to a decent place and who knows you might bump into a 'little brown sexy bunny' as what you call them which is not after your hard earned $$$. With all due respect but I never paid for sex and will never do because I know beforehand that these kind of lady is'nt worth the time. The best sex is free![/QUOTE]Either you're very very lucky or you're the guy from the Dos Equis commercials. I imagine the girls pay you to fuck them too.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVwG1t-NVAA[/url]
Wow this thread now sums this site up.
Take what you like from my post.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1188203]Wow this thread now sums this site up.
Take what you like from my post.[/QUOTE]Some of us, Frenzy, have been around ISG for a lot longer than your posts suggest you have.
Its fine to go off topic for a bit. We always get back to the subject at hand.
Or to put it another way "theres more to life than sex".
Of course I'm saying that last phrase because I met "Lezil" a Filipina OFW at lunchtime here in Taipei, took her to a shorttime (it was our second date after all) and we did the deed. I'm relaxed and mellow. You should try it. Its a nice feeling.
[QUOTE=David_33;1187689]So when are you going to stop your world wide quest for big boobs (posted on myriad country threads), and tie the knot?[/QUOTE]David, the endless quest for busty chicks sounds a lot like Nibu on the loose again.
[QUOTE=David_33;1188031]I live there. Big natural boobs scarce, so don't bother asking.[/QUOTE]I saw many of your friends chicas has nice size boobs. Maybe this guy is looking for real big ones.
I took this one at Mardi Gras in New Orleans damn near 10 years ago. I think she was Pinay though. LOL
Filipinas love getting their tarts injected with custard filling almost as much as they love money. Anyone who thinks that their sweet little Pinay wife is back home busy working while they're off mongering the globe is a real sucker. They're extremely cunning and know exactly what their husbands are up to in the Philippines, Thailand and other sex tourism destinations. However, they are more than happy to let the old codgers take off feeling all smug and patting themselves on the back. As soon as Mr. Viagra Dick's flight goes airborne they will have some young hard stud barebacking the hell out of their little brown muffins. I know the codgers are saying to themselves right now, 'Oh no! Mine is different and I'm much too smart to get cuckolded. ' Sure you are. Just keep believing it. After all a long and happy marriage is impossible without a good dose of self-deception and denial on the part of those involved.
Well, actually he would bang Micki Free from Shalamar as long as there was a pair bolted on. :D
[QUOTE=Radoboy; 1187815]I will bow down to the experts here, but I'm pretty sure this big sulk is well documented and there is even a word for it in Tagalog."Tampo"
Google Tampo and Filipina big sulk and you can read a lot more.
It seems to be cause by you breaking some minor and unwritten "rule" and sounds childish, which is exactly the level the culture operates on IMHO.
The "cure" for Tampo is an equally childish response. Apologise profusely for hurting her (even though it is a mystery) Buy her a fluffy toy or flowers. Cute / sweet is important Forget Jewels. Waste of $.
Soon your bunny will be back. Perhaps instantly. You may even learn what you crime was. If you do discover what is your crime do NOT debate the issue or try to use logic. Simply agree look sad and give her another toy.
Based on limited experience and some reading this is my interpretation. Any expert advice out there?[/QUOTE]Tampo may be triggered by refusal to buy her the latest iPhone, designer handbag or funding the latest bail out package for relatives.
Tampo can be triggered by almost anything. It's occurrences are unpredictable and so is the duration. I've not had to cope with it often, and certainly not for several years, but an effective means of dealing with it I've found, is to simply ignore it. Don't get angry, don't walk out or scream; simply don't react at all. This provides tangible evidence to the lady that the tactic doesn't work, and what doesn't work usually gets discarded pretty quickly.
GE
To "D", and his pursuit of form:
Headlights, bazooms, big'uns, over-the-shoulder boulders, sweater puppies, headlights, bongos, melons, cupcakes, casabas, the twin peaks, golden arches, warheads, jawbreakers, hushpuppies, parabolas, hubcaps, nosecones, hooters, pointer sisters, nectarines, snuggle pups, nippeloons, milk jugs, dueling banjos, bikini stuffers, fog lights, cantaloups, hand warmers, ICBM's, orbs, teats, sugar plums, and zeppelins. I'm sure I missed some.
Go 'D'!
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[QUOTE=D Cups;1188635]Sorry about the multiple shots, guys, but you can never have enough B (.) (.) BS! By the way, there is no silicone in these, guys[/QUOTE]Fucking Grand as hell! Please show these puppies! Where did you find her!
Aggghhhhegggg I am grabbing my shit now!
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1186676]If you have been in the game for a few years now you really should have realised that Philippines is simply not the place to find a woman who is "totally honest, loyal, capable, dependable, no one I would consider marrying." if you are looking to impress your office mates (other than physically). IN my experience you have a much better chance of meeting such a woman in China but you would probably have to accept a smaller age gap than is possible in the Phils.[/QUOTE]It's very interesting to me that almost all the replies essentially agreed with my observations. I think I would have a much more hostile response had I posted my op in the "living in the Philippines" forum.
I think my observations may be more specific to the class of women you find on DIA. I imagine that higher class ladies who do not participate in such sites might be different, but I don't really know since I meet so few and talk to even less educated and professional women on DIA. As I have said in other posts these educated, higher class types typically, in my experience tend to be much more like western women. My take on this is you cannot have your cake and eat it also. If you want eager women who pretend to be submissive then you have to take the typical fare on DIA. If you can tolerate the feminist types, independent and not very generous emotionally, then you go for the career types found
Mostly elsewhere.
What I surmise is driving Filipina friendliness towards foreigners is the difference in incomes and their need to get out of that backwards country which is especially bad for women I think. It must also be hard on men. In all the photos I have received where Filipino men appear most all appear to be on the edge of homicidal attack, very hostile and angry looks on their faces. Also, the womens' frequent complaints about how Filipino guys are all drunks, unfaiithful and irresponsible. The backwards, impoverished nature of the Country leads to these kinds of stresses I am guessing, yet they manage to value their families in contrast to American culture.
I admit I am confused by alot of this and not really certain of my interpretations.
As far as finding ladies in China, I have heard from several sources that Chinese women are better for mates, but they are not nearly as eager to accomodate foreigners in chat.
In fact it's not easy getting them to chat regularily. I had one I was chatting with but made the mistake of pressing her on the circumstances of her last break up to which she finally admitted her ex-be / f gave her the clap, which kind of put a damper on her enthusiasm after that, haha. Did not matter to me, those things happen.
YOu cannot beat the giving nature of the Filipina ladies on DIA, most of them. They are charmers, no doubt about that. What's rare to find is a charmer who is also capable of more than cooking, cleaning and spreading her legs. Again maybe trying to find incompatible characteristics in the same person. I had a woman once who I am sad I gave up who was both capable, feminine and giving, and so I know it is POSSIBLE. I have yet to meet her equivalent since, and that was 10 years ago.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1187992]The problem is, filipinas are no more poor than surrounding asian countries, yet such a large percentage of them do the wild things so easily, that it makes them look bad. My dating site contacts (pinay) often: offer cam shows, agree to travel with me or sleep with me, or ask money in the first 2 or 3 chats. I meet local girls in filipines (non dating site contacts) who do pretty much same. I run into much less of that anywhere else. The girls who interact with mongers come from the bottom of the barrel in any country, but there seems to be a much larger percentage of pinay bad-girls than any other place. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Frequently they tell me the don't want a Filipino guy because Filipino guys are all drunks, irresponsible, gamblers, druggies, etc. This correlates with the large number of them who are knocked up and left or who have guys lying to them who actually have other families. Again I am speaking primarily of the ones I have met on DIA. Also to the other poster I disagree that Filipinas from higher class sources prefer Filipino guys. Even the professional ones I have met want to met a foreigner. This is the universal female drive to accept money and power in exchange for sex and pretended loyalty. You're right they are bad girls, they like to f* many of them but not all. They just want to do it with someone who can support them in the style to which they are unaccustomed and maybe even get the H*l out of dodge. And you're right, many Thais are just as poor but no nearly as accomodating to foreigners.
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1187015]Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.
Maybe its a different time but I have been married to a sweet, really cute and loving Filipina for 25 years. I met her through a dating organization before there was an Internet. We wrote back and forth for months and then met in Manila. All I can say is I married up. She was raised in a middle class family, educated in Engineering, and a whole lot smarter than I am. She manages the household finances and does a damn good job of taking care of me. When I was injured and in hospital she visited and helped the nurses tend to me. She is very tolerant of my foibles and my physical limitation of disability. I have never strayed for fear of screwing up a good thing.
All I can say is, if you pick wisely, you too can find your "dream girl." I see Filipina nurses and med techs all over town, so maybe you don't even need to go all the way to the P. I. To find a good woman.
Slim[/QUOTE]You lucked out and contrary to the op, you did not find her on DIA.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1188576]Tampo can be triggered by almost anything. It's occurrences are unpredictable and so is the duration. I've not had to cope with it often, and certainly not for several years, but an effective means of dealing with it I've found, is to simply ignore it. Don't get angry, don't walk out or scream; simply don't react at all. This provides tangible evidence to the lady that the tactic doesn't work, and what doesn't work usually gets discarded pretty quickly.
GE[/QUOTE]She would have attacks of angry jealousy when I told her I was chatting with two at the same time and start cussing me out and telling me what a low life I was. This followed my ignoring her "tampo".
Yet she is getting money from two different americans, who she swears are just friends and sponsoring her kids (yeah right!) and have no intention of visiting her.
Plus caught her in several lies as well. Too bad she was sexy and smart, but not going to get involved with such a woman.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1188828]I disagree that Filipinas from higher class sources prefer Filipino guys. Even the professional ones I have met want to met a foreigner.
And you're right, many Thais are just as poor but no nearly as accomodating to foreigners.[/QUOTE]Are you sure they're only telling you this because you're a foreigner and they want to develop rapport with you? Because I don't see many professional types on DIA or FilipinoCupid where they can access foreign men.
It's like at the Angeles City bars where girls tell white guys "I hate Korean men" but, five minutes later, will be hanging out with a throng of Korean men telling them "I hate white guys".
While women do generally seek guys with money, they also have a drive to mate with someone with similar cultural and religious backgrounds. You agreed with this yourself when you remarked about how most Thai woman are "just as poor" and yet, are still somewhat anti-foreigner.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1188835]She would have attacks of angry jealousy when I told her I was chatting with two at the same time and start cussing me out and telling me what a low life I was. This followed my ignoring her "tampo".
Yet she is getting money from two different americans, who she swears are just friends and sponsoring her kids (yeah right!) and have no intention of visiting her.
Plus caught her in several lies as well. Too bad she was sexy and smart, but not going to get involved with such a woman.[/QUOTE]One of my DIA girls had the same problem. We had stayed together few times in Manila. She would fly there from Zambo. Quite a sweet girl and we hit it off. However one time she was getting these calls and she would.
Go into the bathroom to talk. I ignored it initially because I give space to them because I am not married to them. Only when the calls were frequent she told me this guy is calling her all the time and when the next call came.
Handed the phone to me although I did not want to talk to the guy. This guy was pleading and begging saying the girl is his GF and he wants to marry her etc. Actually I felt really bad for the guy and told him to call her after a few days because she is staying with me. I guess he did not take it kindly and continued calling all hours. Maybe he was supporting this girl and deep in love.
Next day another of my DIA friends called me because we were planned to stay together after this girl. The call came when my girl was in the bathroom talking to the guy. I told the girl to text me because I was busy.
I guess the girl in the bathroom heard me. When she came she was in a fighting rage. I calmly told her it is ok for to talk to anybody ok for me to talk to anybody too. She caught hold of my phone and called the other girl and.
Had a fight on the phone. When the other girl refused to talk this girl would text her saying to leave me alone etc. This lasted better part of an hour. After that she sat on the balcony crying her heart out. Even when I tried to pacify her she would not budge. So I ignored her. For about three hours she stayed crying and then came back packed her things and tried to leave. I held her back and insisted her to stay. But for her beauty and excellent body and good sex I would have had her leave.
Ultimately things turned out fine. Anyway sometimes these girls feel they can do whatever they want but not you.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1188919]I guess the girl in the bathroom heard me. When she came she was in a fighting rage. I calmly told her it is ok for to talk to anybody ok for me to talk to anybody too. She caught hold of my phone and called the other girl and. Had a fight on the phone. When the other girl refused to talk this girl would text her saying to leave me alone etc. This lasted better part of an hour.[/QUOTE]It's hard to believe that you let a little Pinay take your phone from you and use it repeatedly and you were not able to get it back for over an hour.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1188919]For about three hours she stayed crying and then came back packed her things and tried to leave. I held her back and insisted her to stay. But for her beauty and excellent body and good sex I would have had her leave.[/QUOTE]Take the TV but leave the pussy! I applaud you. I can never stay with the same girl for more than one day. Pro or non-pro. My fantasy is to stay with the same woman for 2 days. I keep trying and failing as many times. I'm always worried about the other women that I am missing out on. I'm insatiable in that I can't get enough of different women and it has nothing to do with sex. I guess that is more so why I monger the times that I do; for the numbers. I have never had a problem with sex from non-pros in my country or anywhere else. I don't look at the west as a sex prison the way many other guys on the board do.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1188919]Anyway sometimes these girls feel they can do whatever they want but not you.[/QUOTE]This is probably how our LBFM friends sees it.
If she "cheats", it's OK because she needs money for survival. If you cheat, it's only because you're horny.
Not that I agree, but I feel that's how they rationalize things.
[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos;1189161]Men who don't have a problem pulling women in the west are not trolling developing countries looking for cheap sex.[/QUOTE]Beg to differ. I prefer to try things outside the box. Filipines is just one playground.
[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos; 1189161]Nobody asked you about your ability to pull non-pros in the west neither was anyone discussing that. On more than one occasion I have seen you state this. Maybe you need to keep telling yourself this to boost your own confidence but I doubt this is true.
Men who don't have a problem pulling women in the west are not trolling developing countries looking for cheap sex.
As for the behavior of Filipinas. Who we as individuals interact with will shape our perceptions of the world we live in.
Most of the comments here have been negative so we can assume most men here have had negative experiences thus creating a situation where neophytes can expect a negative experience or consider themselves very lucky if they experience the positive.[/QUOTE]Hey I have no problem getting a gf 1 and 2 in the west. Just I can have 4 gf in Philippines. And they can all live together. But as you put it maybe I see different side. But I enjoy what I see and have. The west the girls are not as good for me as the ones I know in the pi. In pi I get hotter and younger girls
You have got to be kidding me.
I guess this is old fashioned, but I would say that this sounds remotely like. PUSSY WHIPPED.
I met a guy in Davao who was staying at my hotel and complained about his steady gal who got drunk with HER family at HIS house. Welcome back, and things got nasty and he had to book a room in a hotel. Everything he explained told me to that he should extracadite himself, but of course he didn't. He was poolside with her making up the next day.
This guy was a professional in business and quite sucdessful at what he did, but quite naive about what he was doing in Davao.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1189241]In pi I get hotter and younger girls[/QUOTE]This may be the key point for many, at least for me it is. I'm almost 40 now and virtually no hope of hooking up with 18-19 year olds at home (certainly not the attractive ones). So I "survive" on late 20's and 30's when at home and enjoy myself with 18 to early 20's overseas.
Do you have anything useful to post? You sound like a high school kid keeping count. Surely you can do better. X.
[QUOTE=Toronto;1189252]This may be the key point for many, at least for me it is. I'm almost 40 now and virtually no hope of hooking up with 18-19 year olds at home (certainly not the attractive ones). So I "survive" on late 20's and 30's when at home and enjoy myself with 18 to early 20's overseas.[/QUOTE]
This DIA account has me wondering if a horny American girl figured out why all of us go to the Philippines.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/sexykristine.html[/url]
[QUOTE=X Man;1189255]Do you have anything useful to post? You sound like a high school kid keeping count. Surely you can do better. X.[/QUOTE]Sorry man, I didn't think I was boasting since I was pointing out how I no longer had any hopes of hooking up with young hotties at home. I was just trying to expand on the point the other guy was making. Anyway, I will keep quiet from now on unless I have something to add from my next trip in Oct.
i'the have to admit that america's heartland is filled with beautiful young blonde chicks with big firm milky tits with fresh pink nipples so mongers going elsewhere obviously can't play in that league. for whatever the reason mongers can only look at those women in penthouse and rub one out. the handsome rich and powerful men in america don't need to go hunting for ass in the third world where desperation and scarcity of options lowers the bar for pussy access. those types of guys are riding the best pussy america has to offer. yes, the truth hurts but third world mongering is for the old, the lame, the poor and socially inept. even the toothless must eat their meat and mongering in the grimy poverty stricken parts of the globe fills that need. nothing wrong with that as long as mongers don't start thinking they're brad pitt banging angelina jolie. obviously, no one who can pull quality ass in a safe clean wealthy western nation would risk injury, disease, robbery, death, incarceration, anal [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and their very own episode of 'locked up abroad' just to bust a nut.
[quote=x man; 1189247]you have got to be kidding me.
i guess this is old fashioned, but i would say that this sounds remotely like. pussy whipped.
i met a guy in davao who was staying at my hotel and complained about his steady gal who got drunk with her family at his house. welcome back, and things got nasty and he had to book a room in a hotel. everything he explained told me to that he should extracadite himself, but of course he didn't. he was poolside with her making up the next day.
this guy was a professional in business and quite sucdessful at what he did, but quite naive about what he was doing in davao.[/quote]pussy whipped, maybe or maybe not. perhaps, sammon wisely chose not to strong arm that little filipina and take the phone from her. after he showed his muscle she might have decided to show hers with a little [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] / abuse allegation. a knock on the room door, hands against the wall, no explanation straight to detention. possible anal violation and being forced to pay the girl and officials his pension. even then the best he could hope for is deportation with a ruined reputation and no hope of redemption. you can be certain the media will not publish a retraction. it's always a good idea to remember that the white man is not boss in the philippines. the lbfms can and will do what they want. you can learn to love it or leave.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1189512]Yes, the truth hurts but Third World mongering is for the old, the lame, the poor and socially inept.[/QUOTE]So which are you?
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1189453]This DIA account has me wondering if a horny American girl figured out why all of us go to the Philippines.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/sexykristine.html[/url][/QUOTE]Looks like a another fake profile from Ghana attempting to scam some sucker.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1189512]Even the toothless must eat their meat and mongering in the grimy poverty stricken parts of the globe fills that need.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you have a lot of knowledge about all these places. But I'm not surprised.
I'll keep my mouth shut on the zingers from CS and As. Glad I pretty much keep my mouth shut on my activities. Will be leaving for Manila in about 2 weeks and will be giving my usual abbreviated observations.
[quote=chocha monger;1189512]i'the have to admit that america's heartland is filled with beautiful young blonde chicks with big firm milky tits with fresh pink nipples so mongers going elsewhere obviously can't play in that league. for whatever the reason mongers can only look at those women in penthouse and rub one out. the handsome rich and powerful men in america don't need to go hunting for ass in the third world where desperation and scarcity of options lowers the bar for pussy access. those types of guys are riding the best pussy america has to offer. yes, the truth hurts but third world mongering is for the old, the lame, the poor and socially inept. even the toothless must eat their meat and mongering in the grimy poverty stricken parts of the globe fills that need. nothing wrong with that as long as mongers don't start thinking they're brad pitt banging angelina jolie. obviously, no one who can pull quality ass in a safe clean wealthy western nation would risk injury, disease, robbery, death, incarceration, anal [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and their very own episode of 'locked up abroad' just to bust a nut.[/quote]i always appreciate seeing a post by bigger,"know it all's" than me. you really summed up the whole situation regarding mongering. you should be the president of something, maybe,"the know it all club of america". thank you for the very well written nosense and now (that we mongers know our place in the world) you can go back to the,"united states" forum. and please, pretty please w / a cherry on top. stay there! you will have all the beautiful young blonde chicks to yourself.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1189643]Looks like a another fake profile from Ghana attempting to scam some sucker.[/QUOTE]Yup here a link.
[url]http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38719[/url]
I think Chocha Monger wrote that post "tongue in cheek" and we "old, lame, poor, socially inept", and I´ll add; fat, bald and unattractive (alluding to myself) forum members shouldn't feel insulted.
[QUOTE=Fifty Pesos;1189161]Men who don't have a problem pulling women in the west are not trolling developing countries looking for cheap sex.[/QUOTE]Western ladies tend to be Fat, not just some stomach flab, I mean Obese.
Those few who are not obese have intense male competition for their interest and they know it.
I have talked to many Asian and Latin girls, tell me upon arrival in united states they get swarmed by hungry single males in clubs, pushing each other for a chance to offer the girl a drink or a dance. These girls are totally average in their home country. In the west they become an instant beauty queen thanks to the slim figure.
For those of us who like their dish fat-free, trying to get a mate in the west is a frustrating experience.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1190162]I have talked to many Asian and Latin girls, tell me upon arrival in united states they get swarmed by hungry single males in clubs, pushing each other for a chance to offer the girl a drink or a dance. These girls are totally average in their home country. In the west they become an instant beauty queen thanks to the slim figure.[/QUOTE]You really think it is because of a slim figure? So you assume that every man in USA clubs want a woman with a slim figure? There are tens of millions of women in the USA with slim figures. What about the Asian and Latina women who are not slim that go to the USA? I will say that when Asian and Latinas come to the USA their attitude changes and they are no longer the same as they were in their native country.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1190164]There are tens of millions of women in the USA with slim figures.[/QUOTE]Yep, and hundreds of millions with obese flab.
70% of adults in the states are overweight or obese. 7 out of 10! Thats not my opinion, its a CDC study estimate. They had to raise the bar of accounting just to make the numbers look acceptable lol
I have a friend who is an attractive young man and genuinely likes fat girls. I envy him, north america is truly a great place for him to pull the ladies. He's a good clubbing mate as we have no "conflicts of interest" - I am one of those guys who likes the ladies slim.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1190168]Yep, and hundreds of millions with obese flab.
70% of adults in the states are overweight or obese. 7 out of 10! Thats not my opinion, its a CDC study estimate. They had to raise the bar of accounting just to make the numbers look acceptable LOL.
I have a friend who is an attractive young man and genuinely likes fat girls. I envy him, north america is truly a great place for him to pull the ladies. He's a good clubbing mate as we have no "conflicts of interest". I am one of those guys who likes the ladies slim.[/QUOTE]On my last trip to US I was jet lagged and headed to a 24 hour supermarket at 2am. Was so funny to see late night shoppers filling the carts with every type of sugary crap that could be imagined, chip packets the size of garbage bags, soda bottles as big as water tanks etc.
The funniest tho was when a whale, who was in her mobility cart as she unable to walk due to he being at least 200kgs, started picking up Diet Coke, telling the counter clerk that it didn't have as many calories as regulat Coke.
US is the world champion land of fatties, but parts of Europe particularly the UK catching up very fast.
[quote=freebiefan;1190173]on my last trip to us i was jet lagged and headed to a 24 hour supermarket at 2am. was so funny to see late night shoppers filling the carts with every type of sugary crap that could be imagined, chip packets the size of garbage bags, soda bottles as big as water tanks etc.[/quote]
a doctor friend in california reports receiving a female patient who came in complaining of abdominal discomfort and upon examination he discovers a tv remote control lodged between the folds of stomach fat, well oiled in sweat and grease. other common items "lost and found" can be coins, pieces of food, keys and mobile phones (with krispy kreme delivery on speeddial).
an american discount supermarket is the place where one is most likely to encounter one of the seven wonders of the world, the colossus of lardus.
it's sad for me to see girls who i knew in asia, go to the west in search of fortune, and 1 year after arrival baloon to literally double their original weight. they adapt the local eating habits very quickly..
Oh yes l forgot to mention that l want skinny girls one of the big reason I live in cebu is I get a new one or 2 ever month. And there are many pina skinny. Here is a example.
My ex gf in aust where all about 50kg. 60kg 5'6" here I get 5"2" 40 kg
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1190347]Here is a example.[/QUOTE]Very nice too. You don't encounter that body shape very often in the west. Plenty like this:eek:! Which would you prefer?
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1190379]Plenty like this:eek:! Which would you prefer?[/QUOTE]Oh shit! I almost lost my lunch. Please CS, no more of those. LOL
I'm getting ready to sleep now so I don't even want to look. I told a fat assed big mouthed American woman today arguing with the check out clerk at the drug store that she needed to lose 50 pounds. She said she was going to call the cops. For now I am still a free man. Fat dumb *
[QUOTE=Slippery;1190447]I'm getting ready to sleep now so I don't even want to look. I told a fat assed big mouthed American woman today arguing with the check out clerk at the drug store that she needed to lose 50 pounds. She said she was going to call the cops. For now I am still a free man. Fat dumb *[/QUOTE]Half way up the stairs of Filling Station in P Burgos theres a photo picture of a 200 kg woman. Last time I was there with my 42kg Cebu girl I took a pic of her next to it. Talk about juxtaposition.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1190379]Very nice too. You don't encounter that body shape very often in the west. Plenty like this:eek:! Which would you prefer?[/QUOTE]I've just lost my appetite for food.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1190168]70% of adults in the states are overweight or obese.[/QUOTE]Check out this article about countries where girls are force-fed to become as fat as possible but are still not as fat as American women:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18141550
"Mint was 4 when her family began to force her to drink 14 gallons of camel’s milk a day. When she vomited, she was beaten. If she refused to drink, her fingers were bent back until they touched her hand. Her stomach hurt so much she prayed all the animals in the world would die so that there would be no more milk.
By the time Mint was 10, she could no longer run. Unconcerned, her proud mother delighted in measuring the loops of fat hanging under her daughter’s arms."
...
"That’s [percentage in Mauritania] lower than the 40 percent of American women who the WHO says are obese"
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1190379]Very nice too. You don't encounter that body shape very often in the west. Plenty like this:eek:! Which would you prefer?[/QUOTE]CS, given that you seem to have a collection of these photos, I'm a little concerned that you're the photographer, and I really don't want to think about it. Fortunately I have a few nice naked pictures of my squeeze, and now I'm feeling a need to look at them before I go to sleep.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1190484]CS, given that you seem to have a collection of these photos, I'm a little concerned that you're the photographer, and I really don't want to think about it. Fortunately I have a few nice naked pictures of my squeeze, and now I'm feeling a need to look at them before I go to sleep.[/QUOTE]Fortunately my "provincemate" CS also has some excellent pictures of the more normal and less weight challenged hot young babes that he posts from time to time.
Which reminds that I got an email recently from a Filipina I banged in HK. She was asking for the photos I took of her in HK. Was about to tell her how difficult it was to go through various SD cards and hard drives just to find her pics, when I realised she might percieve that I had thousands of pics of naked ladies. She would have been right too. I politely told her I would send them to her when my pc had been repaired.
Have you guys heard about crush videos? I heard some 300+ lbs mongers have been using 80 to 90 lbs Filipinas to make crush videos for the underground porn market catering to Asiaphiles. Non-governmental organizations will soon be pressuring the Philippine authorities to stamp out this fetish as it is definitely a violation of the UNIFEM charter. You can see these heavyweights on the prowl for unsuspecting spinners in Angeles City, Manila Bay Café, Cebu City and other flesh peddling venues. These guys should be picking on women in their own weight division. Some poor pinay suffer bruised ribs and groin sprains as a result becoming unwitting subjects in crush videos. Some girls have been catching on to the practice and knocking back mongers from the heavyweight division even though these mongers become very angry at the rebuff.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1190491]Have you guys heard about crush videos? I heard some 300+ lbs mongers have been using 80 to 90 lbs Filipinas to make crush videos for the underground porn market catering to Asiaphiles. Non-governmental organizations will soon be pressuring the Philippine authorities to stamp out this fetish as it is definitely a violation of the UNIFEM charter. You can see these heavyweights on the prowl for unsuspecting spinners in Angeles City, Manila Bay Café, Cebu City and other flesh peddling venues. These guys should be picking on women in their own weight division. Some poor pinay suffer bruised ribs and groin sprains as a result becoming unwitting subjects in crush videos. Some girls have been catching on to the practice and knocking back mongers from the heavyweight division even though these mongers become very angry at the rebuff.[/QUOTE]I've not heard of this webpage but I do see these fat bastard waddling down the street in their soiled tee shirts, shorts and flip flops. They usually have a hanky in their hand to facilitate the removal of sweat from their face. In their other hand is usually a very petite Filipina being dragged down the street with a very uncomfortable look on her face. I agree these pigs should be tracked down and sent back with 'do not return' stamp on their passport.
[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1190484]CS, given that you seem to have a collection of these photos, I'm a little concerned that you're the photographer, and I really don't want to think about it. Fortunately I have a few nice naked pictures of my squeeze, and now I'm feeling a need to look at them before I go to sleep.[/QUOTE]Haha. I delight in women of multivarious shapes and hues but do not include those largely composed of grey mottled adipose amongst my 'kinks'. But many do and it is easy to find links to sites full of disgusting photos which will have any self respecting monger upchucking his lunch.
CM, are you bullshitting us again? Never heard of this crush sex perversion except I recall seeing a hilarious porn vid where a skinny little guy was used as a human tampon by a big fat moma. So I ran it past urban dictionary and came up with:
Crush fuck.
Intense gravity-driven fucking prompted by cloning too many custies.
So I put this the crush fuck on this mudkin at an ohio party and then my dick fell off.
???
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1190489]how difficult it was to go through various SD cards and hard drives just to find her pics[/QUOTE]FF you open the pictures folder in Windows Explorer. Then right-click in the folder and sort by date. Surely you can figure out what day you were bonking her.
Alternately, get yourself one of those small dry-erase boards. Write the girls name and date on it, and have her hold it by her face when you take the first pic of her. (joking only)
[QUOTE=D Cups;1190307]Ya, and not just the eating habits, FBA, but ALL the bad habits they pick up from American women including: bitching, complaining, treating husbands like crap, etc. But there is another thread for this called American Women. It is a good place to bash AWs and remind us to keep our foreign sweeties where they are and not taint them in the US.[/QUOTE]Here's some photos of young american women on a dating site that are in my area to select from. Yuck! Can you believe that some of these women are selective on who they respond to? I miss the Philippines!
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How many Filpina-Foreigner meetings online have resulted in happy marriages. I would bet the percentage is very small, probably less than 5.
When you get old and tired you will be interested in more than how many you can bang in a week, so get ready to face this if you intend to remain in the RP or look for a partner there. Maybe the best idea is to party hardy and die young and quick.
[quote=chocha monger;1189512]i'the have to admit that america's heartland is filled with beautiful young blonde chicks with big firm milky tits with fresh pink nipples so mongers going elsewhere obviously can't play in that league. for whatever the reason mongers can only look at those women in penthouse and rub one out. the handsome rich and powerful men in america don't need to go hunting for ass in the third world where desperation and scarcity of options lowers the bar for pussy access. those types of guys are riding the best pussy america has to offer. yes, the truth hurts but third world mongering is for the old, the lame, the poor and socially inept. even the toothless must eat their meat and mongering in the grimy poverty stricken parts of the globe fills that need. nothing wrong with that as long as mongers don't start thinking they're brad pitt banging angelina jolie. obviously, no one who can pull quality ass in a safe clean wealthy western nation would risk injury, disease, robbery, death, incarceration, anal [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and their very own episode of 'locked up abroad' just to bust a nut.[/quote]you mean like the rich american guys who wind up paying huge amounts in any of the following scenarios: a) it was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] not consensual-he loses all his money to trial lawers and maybe goes to jail; be) divorced and she and her lawyers fu* him over royally see) loses custody of any kids the) she reports his activities to his wife with disastrous consequences e) she calls 911 on him and he gets put in the can for no reason f) she gets preggie to entrap him; then she f*ks him over with child support or he goes to jail g) she takes trips or otherwise screws men behind his back h) she turns into a fat pig i) she drives him to drink or suicide, heart attack, etc. with her bad westernized personality j) he has to beg her for sex or buy her sh*t all the time-typical western modus operandi.
Hi TW #5 is doable depending on her boobs. Ya the rest of them are BOW WOW. Check out the uglies and stories of them on the AW thread. Unbelievably fat and ugly women with ridicululous dating requirements. I'd have to be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk to stick my schwantzooka into most AWs mouths even just to shut them up. Rude but true.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker; 1190790]Here's some photos of young american women on a dating site that are in my area to select from. Yuck! Can you believe that some of these women are selective on who they respond to? I miss the Philippines!
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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1190790]Here's some photos of young american women on a dating site that are in my area to select from. Yuck! Can you believe that some of these women are selective on who they respond to? I miss the Philippines![/QUOTE]I like the last one. My first 'crush-f*ck'. Hey, wait a minute.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1191057]I like the last one. My first 'crush-f*ck'. Hey, wait a minute.[/QUOTE]Yea pretty slim pickings here in USA. I did pick the uglier ones to to post but those selections came from the first two pages in a search of 18 to 35 year olds arround my area. There are some nice lookers but they are far and few betwen the fat uglies. Its alot of work to find the younger nice looking asians here. You need to find them before they have been poluted by the american dream.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1190162]I have talked to many Asian and Latin girls, tell me upon arrival in united states they get swarmed by hungry single males in clubs, pushing each other for a chance to offer the girl a drink or a dance. These girls are totally average in their home country. In the west they become an instant beauty queen thanks to the slim figure.[/QUOTE]I'm in China now and there's a young American guy that just got transferred over here. In the states, he almost never had a girl friend as he is a bit over weight and kinda shy. Over here though it's a whole different ball game. He's pulling girls left and right just for being white. And because he had been starved back home, he ain't saying no to anything. I'm happy for him.
And as to the quote above, makes me wonder if I ever want to bring my wife back to the states where no doubt she will be hit on by guys half my age.
[quote=fast buck artist;1190162]i have talked to many asian and latin girls, tell me upon arrival in united states they get swarmed by hungry single males in clubs, pushing each other for a chance to offer the girl a drink or a dance. these girls are totally average in their home country. in the west they become an instant beauty queen thanks .[/quote]if people are married and get their wives into usa or western countries they will not be going to clubs and bars. ofcourse in the western world it is natural to hit on women which is not taken as a insult.
all girls whether from provinces or cities will change once they get into a western country. suddenly they find plenty of opportunities jobwise, lifestylewise and ofcourse to meet other men. it depends on the girl if she.
strays from the marriage.
yes, the age difference is not looked favourably in western countries. most of the time they think the guy is deviated or a slave driver getting married to a desperate girl from a poor country. most often these girls learn from their peers how to better their life once they get the immigrant status.
i know of one thai girl who went to scotland and did not like it there. the guy who married her was a farmer and she had to help in the farm. to make matters worse she was the target of cruel jokes from other farmers. there was no emotional support for her. not counting her young age and beauty compared to older guy. she thought life will be much better for her and her family support if she went to a western country. she did not last even two months there. do not know what lies this guy told her before marriage about his wealth and living.
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1191111]Yea pretty slim pickings here in USA. I did pick the uglier ones to to post but those selections came from the first two pages in a search of 18 to 35 year olds arround my area. There are some nice lookers but they are far and few betwen the fat uglies. Its alot of work to find the younger nice looking asians here. You need to find them before they have been poluted by the american dream.[/QUOTE]A few years ago some of my family came from up north in Washington to visit with me. They had been bugging me to settle down and marry."Find a girl at church." And,"You can go online and find dates you know." OK, fine. So just to show them (ie, the fat girls below) , I sat down with my mom and two sisters, went on Yahoo personals, entered my zip code and age range I was looking for (20-45) , and 20 profiles popped up. Every one of them had pics similar to the ones posted below. Awful to look at in every way. Even my sisters were saying,"Yuck!" And,"Hit next 20." So I clicked next 20, and 20 more profiles popped up, and each of those were awful and overweight. OK, they wanted to try match dot com, so I went there, and got the same results. Later I dropped them at a local mall for some shopping (its rural here). When I picked them up, they apologized for all the years of pressing me to find a girl here."Jesus the people here are just plain fat. Never seen anything like it. I'll stop bugging you."
There is some good news, unknown to my family. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I am relatively trim and attractive. While the few attractive girls here get hit on constantly, they too find it difficult to hook up with single attractive guys (they tell me so). I hear this from the ladies here: "If I could just find a guy with a steady job. You wouldn't think that would be so hard!" And,"They should re-name this place BEER-BELLY county." Attractive men here find it easier to date (I guess that's everywhere) , and I have been fortunate to find attractive gf's and booty-call partners. I didn't settle down because there are no pretty girls here to date; I just don't want to. Not quite done burning thru the Baskin-Robbins beaver yet (all 31 multinational flavors).
Australia is place to go for younger asian brides / gf it just works. You see it all the time and just go lucky guy.
I keep thinking one trip back I take one of my pina gf. Just to show off. I let you know how it goes.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1190162]I have talked to many Asian and Latin girls, tell me upon arrival in united states they get swarmed by hungry single males in clubs, pushing each other for a chance to offer the girl a drink or a dance. These girls are totally average in their home country. In the west they become an instant beauty queen thanks to the slim figure.[/QUOTE]You're wayyyyy exaggering here.
I'm Asian-American. Naturally, a vast majority people I associate with are similar to me.
I assure you that your average Asian women in the US isn't "swarmed" by guys. If anything, us Asian folks date less, have sex less, marry less, etc.
If you bring back a hot Filipina, yes, she'd be swarmed by Western men. That's because she's hot, not because she's Asian. Besides, she's also swarmed by Filipino men when she walks into a local videoke bar in Manila. The only difference is, the quality of guys will be higher in a Western country.
The notion of beauty in Western countries is still on white girls. Open a girlie magazine or a women's magazine and you'll see virtually all models are white. Same with girls you see in Hollywood or beauty pagents. Take an attractive white women and an attractive Asian women and send them into bars and I'll bet anything the white women will get hit on more.
[QUOTE=Ronin500;1191274]I'm in China now and there's a young American guy that just got transferred over here. In the states, he almost never had a girl friend as he is a bit over weight and kinda shy. Over here though it's a whole different ball game. He's pulling girls left and right just for being white. And because he had been starved back home, he ain't saying no to anything. I'm happy for him.[/QUOTE]I think your friend is a bit exaggerating in his exploits.
I'm in Hong Kong twice a year and take forays into China frequently.
99. 99% of girls in China cannot speak English enough to communicate meaningfully to a Westerner. Not to mention, a vast majority of Chinese women will not be caught dead with a white guy. This is China, not the Philippines. There is no obsession on Western culture in China. If anything, the Chinese views Western culture with a bit of disdain.
Just ask yourself, how many white guys have brought home a Chinese bride from China? I do not know a single one. China isn't exactly a global hotspot for mail order brides and international dating despite it's massive population of women.
Besides, have you heard of the One Child Policy in China? This causes a gender imbalance where there are signifigant more men than women in China. As such, virtually all Chinese women can be assured of finding a Chinese husband and don't need to seek pastures elsewhere.
I'm sure your overweight friend will do better dating in China than in the USA simply due to sheer numbers (there is overpopulation and poverty in China). But to say that your typical white guy will become Tom Cruise in China, you're setting up people for some major disappointment.
[QUOTE=Jambo; 1190625]FF you open the pictures folder in Windows Explorer. Then right-click in the folder and sort by date. Surely you can figure out what day you were bonking her.
Alternately, get yourself one of those small dry-erase boards. Write the girls name and date on it, and have her hold it by her face when you take the first pic of her. (joking only) [/QUOTE]Good call. But on my work computer I don't store anything.
On my SD cards I segregate them according to chronology or sometimes keep one card per girl, but as it was in the middle of a Manila / Tokyo / Shanghai / Singapore / HK marathon two weeks theres a lot of pics.
But yes I am familiar with how to segregate and sort by date / size of file / etc. LOL I think in this case theres an memory error as I found pics of some girl I bonked the next night.
Last week, was having a drink with a senior ISG member (whilst waiting for that nights honeypie to arrive) and we were chatting about facebook. He described how a girl he was interested in had given him her fb account with password. I found it strange that someone would do that.
Well, life IS strange as this morning, a current / ex / on the current roster friend of mine (never know how to categorise them LOL) sent me her fb acount with password. I couldn't view as I was required to identify some pics that were tagged to gain entrance but its interesting what info some of these ladies willingly give out. Am not entirely sure they know what they are doing by giving out passwords.
Was perusing through Tagged as I ocassionally do when bored at work and seeking new conquests, and came across one likely subject.
Her profile was on private so I duly requested entrance.
Upon being granted such favour, I reviewed her photos. And there, in all its internet splendour, was 875 photos, each one of her. There were no bikini pic, no naked pics, hardly any flesh shown. Instead there were 875 photos of her face in various poses. When I suggested to said girl that 875 pics of herself might constitute vanity, never mind being borderline narcisistic, she thought, thought some more and with a great deal of erudition replied " What?".
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1191504]Last week, was having a drink with a senior ISG member (whilst waiting for that nights honeypie to arrive) and we were chatting about facebook. He described how a girl he was interested in had given him her fb account with password. I found it strange that someone would do that.
Well, life IS strange as this morning, a current / ex / on the current roster friend of mine (never know how to categorise them LOL) sent me her fb acount with password. I couldn't view as I was required to identify some pics that were tagged to gain entrance but its interesting what info some of these ladies willingly give out. Am not entirely sure they know what they are doing by giving out passwords.[/QUOTE]Yes it is common as most pina have a number of fb accounts. I would advise guys to do the same.
In Tagged recently.
Freebie to Mae A." Hi Mae, love to see you in Market Market soon.
Mae A " what?"
Freebie. I'm in Manila and would like if we could meet, you look cute"
Mae A " o? What you mean "
Freebie" Um which part didn't you understand. I'd like to meet you "
Mae A " what "
Freebie " go back to school honey.
Ok so I gave up on Mae A and moved onto Ma Naiza in Tagged. Looks semi ok.
Had some nice pics in fb. We started chatting in ym, (YM name sossyhot_zupiztar in case anyone wants to play her along) and I commented on her pics.
She advised she had some other pics but that I had to "help her". She told she had naked pics but to see them I had to send her 40, 000 pesos as her exam just happened to be tomorrow.
I advised her that
A) I'm not and haven't been a newbie since 1980.
B) If I want to see naked pics of Filipinas I will find hundreds without spending a centavo.
C) Every girl says its her exam tomorrow. She should be more original.
The) The only other reply I could give was "Cira ula mo" and "ano ka hilo".
She said " Sorry Sir, I'm just trying.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1191504]Last week, was having a drink with a senior ISG member (whilst waiting for that nights honeypie to arrive) and we were chatting about facebook. He described how a girl he was interested in had given him her fb account with password. I found it strange that someone would do that.[/QUOTE]I know one girl, who has facebook accounts as (or facebuk). Dannica, Sarah, Kelene, Rosie, Marjorie, Gonzi, Sienna. Ah, yes, they are the same person.
I read a lot on here about how you can easily pick up girls for sex. Maybe it is because I am currently serving a long term sentence in Sex Prison, but I am having a hard time coming up with a good way to go about discussing this with the girls.
Being a conservative country, I kind of doubt going up to a girl and saying "come back to my hotel and let me screw you and I'll give you 1500 pesos" is going to work very often, even if they might be open to the idea. So how would you go about it? Is there a delicate way to ask this, or do I have to take the girls out for dinner first? Anyone got a play-by-play rundown of how this is done?
[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob; 1192168]I read a lot on here about how you can easily pick up girls for sex. Maybe it is because I am currently serving a long term sentence in Sex Prison, but I am having a hard time coming up with a good way to go about discussing this with the girls.
Being a conservative country, I kind of doubt going up to a girl and saying "come back to my hotel and let me screw you and I'll give you 1500 pesos" is going to work very often, even if they might be open to the idea. So how would you go about it? Is there a delicate way to ask this, or do I have to take the girls out for dinner first? Anyone got a play-by-play rundown of how this is done?[/QUOTE]Are you talking of those you are chatting with in YM prior to your trip to phils? I just let them know that I'm coming soon, and they are the ones who make the move and ask to meet. That does not guarantee that they actually will meet once you are there. You can approach it multiple ways, here are a few:
1. If you mention you're coming next week and she doesn't jump on the chance of meeting up with you, drop her from your chat list.
2. If she does want to meet up, set a date / time. Meet, see how it goes. Some gents are fine with having just a cup of coffee today, hoping to score with her tomorrow. Don't bother setting another date just yet, just tell her you are going to your hotel, and see if she follows. If she does not, attempt to set another date (if you are interested) right then. Tomorrow night, some clubbing perhaps. Take it from there.
3. She wants to meet up. Tell her up front you are only interested in that if she's interested in returning to your hotel at the end of your coffee / drink. If she says 'not-so-fast-fella', drop her, or revert to #2 above. Usually along the way, either in ym chat or having coffee, she will mention her need for help."Yes of course, I'd be glad to help."
On my last trip, I went way out of my way to get dating site girls to meet-and-bang, but had wildly mixed results (first time for that). Gives bargirls an air of freshness.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1191814]SNIP.
She should be more original.
She said " Sorry Sir, I'm just trying.[/QUOTE]Well that was original! Don't they usually insult you or call you names when you pull the curtain away their dirty little secrets?
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[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob;1192168]Being a conservative country, I kind of doubt going up to a girl and saying "come back to my hotel and let me screw you and I'll give you 1500 pesos" is going to work very often, even if they might be open to the idea. So how would you go about it? Is there a delicate way to ask this, or do I have to take the girls out for dinner first? Anyone got a play-by-play rundown of how this is done?[/QUOTE]Don't mention money at all, girls don't like being treated as a prostitute, even if she is a prostitute! Take her out for a nice meal, videoke and dancing or movie, then invite her back to your hotel. If she asks at any point "Can you help me with my problem?" thats a hint to offer her some cash. Many will not ask anything at all, in that case before saying goodbye slip her some some money and say "here, buy a nice dress and shoes tomorrow"
In hooker pickup joints like Havana you can just directly negotiate. "come to my hotel for 4 hours I give you 1500?". But I wouldn't advise that approach in other places.
Had a chat this am with a sweet Taguig girl that I haven't yet (but will) bonk. We were talking about eating breakfast together.
I ask her what she wants for breakfast and Sweet girl says she wants " egg and hot dog and mayo ". Got to love it when the girls also play the double entendre game.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1192514]don't mention money at all, girls don't like being treated as a prostitute, even if she is a prostitute! Take her out for a nice meal, videoke and dancing or movie, then invite her back to your hotel. If she asks at any point "Can you help me with my problem?" thats a hint to offer her some cash. Many will not ask anything at all, in that case before saying goodbye slip her some some money and say "here, buy a nice dress and shoes tomorrow"
In hooker pickup joints like Havana you can just directly negotiate."come to my hotel for 4 hours I give you 1500?". But I wouldn't advise that approach in other places.[/QUOTE]I agree with all that but I would tell the girl upfront you are not looking for a GF. Some will sex you for free thinking you are wanting a GF and then you have taken advantage of her.
I always use the word playboy in cebu as they know what that means. It actually works better as they offer friends knowing I got cash to spend. I get to see alot more girls and pick the better ones.
Got a message in DIA yesterday from a girl I once bonked. She says " Hi how have you been, I missed you " Nothing strange about that, except that my last message to her, and presumably the time of the bonk was 3. 3 years ago!
Our first thought quite often, on seeing a girl is " I wonder what she looks like without her t shirt ".
Fortunately in the Philippines there is less modesty there than other countries.
So take a look at Reyma Cullano. She sweetly poses in her bra for her DIA pic then even provides her digits too.
Yes I know our second thought is " what does she look like out of her pants" but DIA sadly doesn't go that far.
She's cute. I personally have encountered a higher percentage of scammers and LBs from Zambuanga than from other regions. I don't know if others have noticed this.
I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.
I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.
I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.
These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?
I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193126]I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.
I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.
I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.
These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?
I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]They're not all scammers. Then again, you won't find many angels there either. A girl who you meet and have a romp with who then asks you for "help" is not a scammer.
My policy re girls asking me for money on DIA: I tell them I do not give money to anyone I haven't met. And then I move on to the next profile.
You'll want to have plan A, B, C, D, . Because the girls live on Filipino time and sometimes flake out.
Get past that, you can have fun doing this. Just don't take it too seriously.
Guys will have different experiences depending on their personalities. It also depends on what they're looking for. For instances, if I was looking for an LTR, I wouldn't try to find her on DIA. I think a good attitude and some flexibility will go far. At the same time, don't be a pushover.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193126]I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.
I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.
I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.
These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?
I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]Some girls ask for money to be sent something or the other. Do not send money for any reason. They are playing on your heartstrings. They have lived without you so far and continue to live without you.
Once you meet and have a relationship you need to think differently. They are not like your girlfriends in the west where normally no money is given except gifts.
Some will not ask but will not refuse your offer of money. They know you are a hit and run artist and except in a few cases no long term stability in relationship. So clear your conscience by giving money equivalent what you would have spent on bargirls. Do not look for free sex. Buying some gifts are in order too.
Once you develop a relationship it is your choice to support her or have a long term relationship. But always she will be there for you if you treat her right.
Just because few girls asked you for money do not call all as scammers. Ofcourse nobody refuses free money. Since you did not send any money before meeting it is no loss to you.
All these girls in a survival mode because of poverty and lack of future opportunities. Otherwise they would not be there.
You need to show respect irrespective what they do unless they rob you.
Damn those guys who keep on telling how good they are.
I'm stupid and crazy, I smoke, I get drunk and puke, I watch porn, I go naked, I dance like a stripteaser, I fuck, I scream when I'm mad, I laugh most of the times, I cried when I'm hurt, I don't hate, I curse when I'm upset, I mess up almost everytime, I'm shy and determined at the same time, I prefer to be called funny than hot, I daydream a lot, I have had nightmares, I'm afraid to watch horror films, I have reasons almost to everything that happens to me, I don't care if people don't understand why I am me, I'll kill if the need arises.
She's in Cebu, so someone give her a ride.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1193161]Some girls ask for money to be sent something or the other. Do not send money for any reason.[/QUOTE]I think you guys misunderstood my question. No way I'll ever send money to someone I haven't met. I already know that.
My question was, why do some DIAers find mostly moneygrubbers while other DIAers find mostly genuine girls when it's the same dating pool?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1193126]I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]In my observations only 10% of overall DIA girls are scammers. If you get a high number of them bothering you, it means either you look like a newbie or act like one (no offense!)
A few tips of avoiding the scammers:
- ask to see their webcam. Most scammers are gay guys posing as a woman. Call them on the phone to do a voice check.
- make it clear in your profile you don't send money to people you haven't met.
- if the photo is too good to be true, it usually is (magazine quality, supermodel looks). I did meet one girl who really was an FHM model in her past, but this is a rare exception.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193255]I think you guys misunderstood my question. No way I'll ever send money to someone I haven't met. I already know that.
My question was, why do some DIAers find mostly moneygrubbers while other DIAers find mostly genuine girls when it's the same dating pool?[/QUOTE]Do not show you like her a lot and how beautifull she looks etc. Just act as if you have many girls and she one among many.
Never act desparate saying you really want to meet her or tell her you like to take on vacations etc.
Once you show you really like her they usually come up with hard luck stories
I got a message from rixcel yesterday (from Davao). Here is part of her profile:
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I am proud in my work like PROSTITUTE person. Why do I work PROSTITUTE bcos I need to help my family in my province.
I am looking a bf to accept me for who I am and what I am.
If I see my future husband. I will promise on him that I will stop my work.
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Is that an honest description or is she hoping for a Pretty Woman scenario where someone "saves" her?
[QUOTE=JPF;1193931]Is that an honest description or is she hoping for a Pretty Woman scenario where someone "saves" her?[/QUOTE]Aaah. Isn't it nice to find a honest hooker for a change who admits she's a hooker? So rare!
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193126]I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.
I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.
I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.
These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?
I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]Am quite active on DIA and Tagged and the scam hits are probably about 1 in 10.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193126]I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.
I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.
I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.
These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?
I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]Partly it depends on the fact that different guys have different definitions of scamming but there are other factors. There are plenty of girls who will ask money for cam fees, tuition help etc. I'm not sure this is fairly seen as scamming. In part its a reaction to the fact that 90% of the guys on DIA are timewasters from a girls point of view, guys feeling lonely / horny in the west with either no intention of coming to the Phils or plans in 6 months time with no realistic possibility of meeting the girl.
I would say that 50% + of the serious scammers are ladyboys. Generally they will be operating at peak US times (ie the middle of the night Phils time) , generally they wil have sexy photos and fairly "open minded" profiles.
If you log on to DIA at 3am Phils time and hit "girls" with sexy photos and upfront profiles it WILL seem like 90% of the Girls on DIA are scammers.
My experience with Filipinas is that sometimes, their willingness to try to get money out of you is inversely related to how much she likes you. I had a girl from DIA on the line for a while, and she really liked me and never asked for a cent. I don't deceive women for sex though, so I made it clear to her that I wasn't serious and was only looking for a girlfriend. I could tell she was hurt by it. After that, every conversation was about money in one way or the other.
She just figured that if she wasn't going to land a husband, she might as well go for some quick money. She just lowered her target from Long Term to Short Term. I do the same thing, if I sort of like a girl, but not enough to invest a lot of time with her, I'll just go for broke and tell her I want to fuck her, straight out. If she says yes, great, some quick sex with no investment, if she says no, oh well, I didn't want to waste time on her anyway. I'll take the chance as a last resort.
Today I got this question from a girl just wrapping up her B. Sc.
"have you been here since your last visit?"
Charmingly simplistic in a way, isn't it?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1194000]Am quite active on DIA and Tagged and the scam hits are probably about 1 in 10.[/QUOTE]I have had my DIA profile for years (had Tagged also, but got kicked off for supposedly being "too explicit"). I just noticed yesterday that I have received over 6000 messages. Of those, I have had money discussions with several girls. But only a few of them were straight requests for "send me money." Most of the discussions have been more along the lines of "I have a big problem. I must pay for xxxxx, and I don't know where I will get the money." When I get those kind of lines, I simply tell the girl that I can't send money because I have my own bills to pay here in the US.
I have only tried to meet with 3 girls from DIA during my first visit to the Philippines. One ended up being a no show, or so I thought. We had arranged to meet at a club near my hotel (just a standard bar with no dancers). When she failed to show for more than an hour after our meet time, I went back to my room and found another girl that agreed to come and meet me. This one turned out to be not what I expected. On our web cam chat, she appeared to be a very nice looking little spinner. When I met her in the bar (with her 2 ladyboy "cousins") she was a short, plump, ugly girl. Turns out she had her cute friend on cam while she was typing responses to me in our chat. Well she was willing to fuck, and I was pissed about the first one not showing and this one not being what I thought she was, so I decided to take her to the room and get my rocks off. Later, I got a message from the first girl asking if I had sex with the one I met. When I asked how she knew about me meeting the other girl, she claimed that she was in a dark part of the bar and watched me as I took short, plump and ugly to my room. I tend to think the whole thing was a setup by the first one to see if I would be "faithful" to her. Needless to say, I never did meet the first girl, and she stopped chatting with me as well. No great loss.
The 3rd girl met me with her baby in her arms. Still, she looked pretty good, and I wanted to have some fun with her. She asked me to stay at a hotel near her home, which I wrongly assumed meant she planned on spending a lot of time in the room with me. She asked if I would like to go to a swim resort with her and her friends (code for "Will you pay for my friends and I to go to the resort with you?") Still hoping to get lucky with the girl, I agreed. We stayed overnight at the resort, and she even shared a bed with me. But she moved away every time I tried to touch her. When I was preparing to leave, she apologized to me for being so shy, and explained that her husband had beat her and she was not comfortable being touched yet. About a week later, after I had left the Philippines, she sent me a message telling me how much she missed me. She promised she would do anything I wanted the next time I visited her. Unfortunately, she married some other monger before I had a chance to see her again. Oh well, many more available where she came from.
It's been a few years since I was in the Philippines. I have continued to chat with DIA girls and plan to meet many of them when I can return there. I have 2 profiles on DIA, the nice profile and the playboy profile. On both, I have my photo and I state that I will not send money. On the playboy profile, I get many more interests from filipinas than my nice profile gets. Some have sent me messages stating their objections to my playboy profile, because I directly state that I am looking for sex partners, and not long term relationships. I always respond to those objections, telling them that I understand them, and we can still be friends. I have even asked some if they would introduce me to some of their friends that would not object. Most have agreed to do that.
Enjoy the hunt!
HW
Have a forthcoming Manila trip and have been working on my calendar, trying to get all my appointments nailed down. The repeats are the easiest as they know I will have some work excuse or urgent post bonk need to leave them while I attend to the next on the list.
However this mornin have been have having pleasant exchanges with Ms 22. She will be a newbie for me. Great pics and is excited that I have bought her a bikini (I buy them all bikinis but she doesn't need to know that LOL). She has agreed to model the bikini, and even to dance in it etc. She knows exactly what's going to happen when she says in her imperfect English "you are old but dangerous in sexy girl like me feel hot". Bring on the hear baby. LOL
No problem having two profiles? I thought this was not allowed at DIA?
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1195380]I have had my DIA profile for years (had Tagged also, but got kicked off for supposedly being "too explicit"). I just noticed yesterday that I have received over 6000 messages. Of those, I have had money discussions with several girls. But only a few of them were straight requests for "send me money." Most of the discussions have been more along the lines of "I have a big problem. I must pay for xxxxx, and I don't know where I will get the money." When I get those kind of lines, I simply tell the girl that I can't send money because I have my own bills to pay here in the US.
HW[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Barba; 1195333]Today I got this question from a girl just wrapping up her B. Sc.
"have you been here since your last visit?"
Charmingly simplistic in a way, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Maybe she has been reading Quantum Mechanics? LOL
[QUOTE=X Man;1195413]No problem having two profiles? I thought this was not allowed at DIA?[/QUOTE]It isn't if they twig you are the same person-
Been reading these posts all of which seem to try to determine why and the percentage which on DIA ask for money or not. Amusing really.
Imnsho, most all on DIA are scammers. It is a question of whether they are going for the short con or the long con. In fact most WOMEN regardless of nationality are scammers. They know that marriage to a westerner may bring huge rewards including 1) going to USA where they can join all the feminist see*nts there along with all the rights a privileges 2) assignment of any benefits their husband may receive, especially after he is DEAD 3) support for her and her kids,
Her mother, sisters, brothers and cousins 4) use your imagination as they do!
If they are young and you are old they may also take a Filipino be / f in secret so they don't have to sleep with an old fart all the time. This is assuming she is not one of the many already married and being directed on chat by her husband.
If on the other hand they see that you WILL NOT marry them, then they switch to the short con:
Pump him for whatever you can get in as short of time as possible. Kinda the same as F*k.
As many of them in as short of time as possible but with the tables turned.
HOw can you tell if you've found one of the rare ones not operating on this frequency? That is the woman who can provide more than just sex and cooking for you. One that helps pay the bills or helps in other significant ways (and I don't mean introducing you to all her hungry friends). Those will be rare as h*ll on DIA. There are some but the are few and far between.
When a woman helps with the bills or in other significant ways, then you know she loves you and is trying to make a go of it.
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1195644]Maybe she has been reading Quantum Mechanics? LOL[/QUOTE]LOL. Absolutely.
She has some rich perverted American "friend" that she chats with about her 12 year old sister in exchange for piles of 1000 PHP bills. Bet you that he will be very surprised when he finds out that his pervo-cash funded the discovery that the Schrödinger equation actually describes my Philippines travel itinerary.
Nerd-Barba
What is her DIA name?
Here's a warm and fuzzy profile from DIA.
Damn those guys who keep on telling how good they are.
I'm stupid and crazy, I smoke, I get drunk and puke, I watch porn, I go naked, I dance like a stripteaser, I fuck, I scream when I'm mad, I laugh most of the times, I cried when I'm hurt, I don't hate, I curse when I'm upset, I mess up almost everytime, I'm shy and determined at the same time, I prefer to be called funny than hot, I daydream a lot, I have had nightmares, I'm afraid to watch horror films, I have reasons almost to everything that happens to me, I don't care if people don't understand why I am me, I'll kill if the need arises.
She's in Cebu, so someone give her a ride.
Translation anyone?
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1195645]It isn't if they twig you are the same person-[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man;1198897]Translation anyone?[/QUOTE]DIA have a policy of one account per person and if they realise (or someone informs them) that you have two accounts they will delete them both. But if noone tips them off you shoukld be able to get away with two accounts for a while.
I have been video chatting (met on CB) with this gal in Butuan for almost a month about an hour per day. Age 28, average looks, above average intelligence. 3 kids baggage. The plan has been for me to rent a place for 20 days there (in November) and she would stay with me. I really thought she was legitimate. Every girl that has tried to scam me, has done it within the first week.
She never asked for money, but since she was using an internet cafe, I decided to send her $20 to help out. I figured that she spends close to that much per month at the internet cafe talking to me.
Yesterday, she told me that she got bit by a dog. Said she went to the doctor, who suggested that she get 3 shots to prevent the possibility of rabies. Never offered to show me the wound, but eventually I asked to see it. Hard to tell if it was real or just makeup on the camera.
Of course, you can see where this is going. She asked for money for the shots. I told her "no". She said that she understood and did not push, but I am strongly leaning towards dumping her now. There are plenty more girls on CB.
My questions are:
Did I possibly blow it with this girl by helping out with the $20?
Anyone see this particular scam before?
[QUOTE=Algol; 1199025]I have been video chatting (met on CB) with this gal in Butuan for almost a month about an hour per day. Age 28, average looks, above average intelligence. 3 kids baggage. The plan has been for me to rent a place for 20 days there (in November) and she would stay with me. I really thought she was legitimate. Every girl that has tried to scam me, has done it within the first week.
She never asked for money, but since she was using an internet cafe, I decided to send her $20 to help out. I figured that she spends close to that much per month at the internet cafe talking to me.
Yesterday, she told me that she got bit by a dog. Said she went to the doctor, who suggested that she get 3 shots to prevent the possibility of rabies. Never offered to show me the wound, but eventually I asked to see it. Hard to tell if it was real or just makeup on the camera.
Of course, you can see where this is going. She asked for money for the shots. I told her "no". She said that she understood and did not push, but I am strongly leaning towards dumping her now. There are plenty more girls on CB.
My questions are:
Did I possibly blow it with this girl by helping out with the $20?
Anyone see this particular scam before?[/QUOTE]Very unlikely, particularly as the amount is so small. Rabies is endemic in the Philippines and a real hazard, particularly with so many aso's running about wild (but not as many as in Thailand as Pinoys just love dog stew with their evening booze sessions!).
Just best make sure that she realizes that to be effective, she will need at least two or three boosters, depending on whether or not she had a prophylaxis shot.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1199030]Very unlikely, particularly as the amount is so small.[/QUOTE]Yes, plus the fact that she is a bit older and has three kids. She's not going to risk screwing up a possible relationship for such a small sum. Its easy to get paranoid reading the posts on this forum, but often the girls are in fact honest. I would give her the money, but maybe that´s because I am soft hearted david_33.
[QUOTE=Algol; 1199025]I have been video chatting (met on CB) with this gal in Butuan for almost a month about an hour per day. Age 28, average looks, above average intelligence. 3 kids baggage. The plan has been for me to rent a place for 20 days there (in November) and she would stay with me. I really thought she was legitimate. Every girl that has tried to scam me, has done it within the first week.
She never asked for money, but since she was using an internet cafe, I decided to send her $20 to help out. I figured that she spends close to that much per month at the internet cafe talking to me.
Yesterday, she told me that she got bit by a dog. Said she went to the doctor, who suggested that she get 3 shots to prevent the possibility of rabies. Never offered to show me the wound, but eventually I asked to see it. Hard to tell if it was real or just makeup on the camera.
Of course, you can see where this is going. She asked for money for the shots. I told her "no". She said that she understood and did not push, but I am strongly leaning towards dumping her now. There are plenty more girls on CB.
My questions are:
Did I possibly blow it with this girl by helping out with the $20?
Anyone see this particular scam before?[/QUOTE]I do not know why you are getting involved with a lady with three kids to support? Unless you are the type to support her and her three kids do not get involved. Should not have even sent $20.
I am sure you can find some young girl without baggage to stay with you.
She has gotten along without your help so far. She will continue to get along fine.
If you continue to contact her there will be much more demand for this and that. I would say cease all contacts.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1199055]I do not know why you are getting involved with a lady with three kids to support?[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree with you on this one Sammon. The guy seems to be looking for a LTR and doesn't seem to be a monger. The girl in question will bend over backwards to make sure he's happy given her circumstances. You really think she's going to blow it by trying to squeeze Western Union out of a guy who is planning on traveling to her island and staying with her? Maybe she really got bit by a dog and needed some rabies shots. Or maybe I´m just a hopeless romantic.
[QUOTE=Algol; 1199025]My questions are:
Did I possibly blow it with this girl by helping out with the $20?
Anyone see this particular scam before?[/QUOTE]Welcome to the board!
Although I do not condone sending money without meeting in person first, this story seems plausible. Just a few months back, one of my girlfriends got bitten by a feral cat that she feeds on occasion. The three boaster shots cost something like 2500 php. Sure she probably did not need the shots but better safe then sorry!
I know of a case just last summer where a girl in Cebu died from rabies. So money for rabies shots is not out of the question.
Even if it is a scam, she deserves the twenty bucks for creativity.
Thanks for the feedback guys. David_33 is correct in that I am more of a LTR person than a monger, although I do plan to take advantage of my layover in Manila. I was going to dump her, but from the feedback I have gotten, I am now leaning towards giving her the benefit of the doubt and will assume that she just panicked. BTW, I had already sent the $20 by snail mail to help her out with the internet cafe expenses before this happened. I will not give her any more money until I meet her.
If she is trying to scam me, I will say she is definitely a lot smarter, creative, and patient than the last ones.
[QUOTE=David_33;1199042]Yes, plus the fact that she is a bit older and has three kids. She's not going to risk screwing up a possible relationship for such a small sum. Its easy to get paranoid reading the posts on this forum, but often the girls are in fact honest. I would give her the money, but maybe that´s because I am soft hearted david_33.[/QUOTE]I often find girls who have had one kid. Then in some case I will know the hips have "flared " there maybe some stomach stetch marks and the boobs may or maynot be affected. I have ocassionalyl gone with a a girl with two kids and the damage has increased. But three kids. I would want to see the product first before entering into a lengthy stay with said lady. (yes I know you werent the original poster.)
[QUOTE=David_33;1199061]I respectfully disagree with you on this one Sammon. The guy seems to be looking for a LTR and doesn't seem to be a monger. The girl in question will bend over backwards to make sure he's happy given her circumstances. You really think she's going to blow it by trying to squeeze Western Union out of a guy who is planning on traveling to her island and staying with her? Maybe she really got bit by a dog and needed some rabies shots. Or maybe I´m just a hopeless romantic.[/QUOTE]As we experienced visitors to Phi know very well, even if you are looking for LTR there are better options. Not just fall for the first girl with three kids to show interest in you. This guy should weigh his options and decide after going to Phi and meet as many as possible.
I am not against him meeting this lady and falling head over heels for her. Love is blind as they say. Maybe in my younger years I believe that. Now it is more like I am blind and stupid if I am played around before I get into her pussy.
As I was saying he can support her if knowingly done that he is doing social service. Today it is bitten by a dog, tomorrow by a buffallo and the buffallo died etc. We know the routine. A lady with three kids will do anything to milk him. I have never met anybody with more than one kid and that too not living with her. Less baggage means less demand.
All I am saying is once he meets her and she makes him feel happy and satisfied it is ok for him to support her. Since he asked for advice here it is our duty to advice.
The fact that there are also 3 kids involved makes the potential for more requests for help exponentially greater.
Na I think we should start a biz. We could make a fortune scamming guy like this. We can pay the girls a salary of 4k they can have 20 guys sending us money every month. We can do photos and dockets.
Any time a guys visits we can think of some scam and get the police involved so we can clean out his bank accounts.
Oh wait I been living here too long
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1199278]Na I think we should start a biz. We could make a fortune scamming guy like this. We can pay the girls a salary of 4k they can have 20 guys sending us money every month. We can do photos and dockets.
Any time a guys visits we can think of some scam and get the police involved so we can clean out his bank accounts.
Oh wait I been living here too long[/QUOTE]There are more than a few guys doing that sort of thing already, guys who came to the Philippines and ended up on skid row. They coach the girls and write the sales copy for their profiles on the dating sites where they fish for lonely hearts. When the pension check falls short or the nest egg gets blown on poo-say and grog some expats turn to the second oldest profession. They become cybernetic pimps.
[QUOTE=Algol; 1199025]My questions are:
Did I possibly blow it with this girl by helping out with the $20?
Anyone see this particular scam before?[/QUOTE]Sending women money before you meet them is never a good idea no matter how small the sum. To you it seems like no big deal. You think, 'It's only 20 dollars. ' She thinks, 'Wow, I just made 840 pesos just by chatting with this guy. ' Soon she is doing multiple chats and pulling 840 pesos and up from dozens of lonely guys. The easy money is like crack cocaine and the requests start. You get mad but can you blame her? Think of it this way, you give your girlfriend a few puffs on a crack pipe. She likes it and wants more. She is addicted to crack. In order to get more to ease the cravings she starts lying and stealing from you. You're angry at her because she is a crack-head. But wasn't you the one that gave her the first taste of that ice?
If no one ever sent Filipinas money without first meeting and boning them there would be no scammers online. When you send money to girls who you've never met in person you're offering incentives for them to become scammers. Filipinos are not loose with their money when dealing with each other. When you start off relationships by dispensing cash don't be annoyed if they start treating you like an ATM. Would you do the same thing at home? Do you give women money to pay for internet access and phone bills simply because they communicate with you?
Now, this girl has 3 mouths to feed. 4 if you include hers. Her priority will always be supporting the kids and herself. If she is spending precious pesos chatting with you most likely she is expecting more than a Viagra induced pounding and some chocolates for her time and money. An hour a day video chatting is a lot of time and money for a girl with that much responsibility to spend on a guy she might never meet. It's quite possible that working the internet is her job. It's not unusual for internet girls to cultivate several sponsors at a time. If you want to play sugar-daddy and save her and the kids then keep at it. Though, it would seem that you're not getting the best return on your investment in light of all the other options available. Perhaps, you're seeking a ready-made family. If not, you may want to reconsider setting the girl and yourself up for a huge disappointment in the future.
[I]Originally Posted by Great Muta in the Manila thread
Kind of off-topic, but does anyone know any good free dating sites in the phillipines? All of the ones I can find either require money to send messages or want cell phone numbers. I would prefer to just sign up and be able to talk to someone for free. [/I]
Not sure exactly why he posted this question in the MANILA thread?
Try dateolicious. Com.
Seems to be a new one. I cannot vouch for it but it is free, and not just Asia. Not as user-friendly as DIA but might assist someone burned out with DIA.
Another is Find Love Asia ([url]www.findloveasia.com[/url])
As they used to say." flatter than a pancake "
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/lookingforman.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1199414]If no one ever sent Filipinas money without first meeting and boning them there would be no scammers online. .Do you give women money to pay for internet access and phone bills simply because they communicate with you?[/QUOTE]I agree. Sending money without getting anything (sexual) in return is plain stupid. She'll respect you more if you say "No". In fact one of the best things foreigners can learn is how to say "No". This one word will save you tons of cash and prevent many headaches while in SEA.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1199812]As they used to say." flatter than a pancake "
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/lookingforman.html[/url][/QUOTE]You just ruined my breakfast (pancakes).
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/simple+Rose14.html[/url]
FUn and GAME always! At anytym and any place, GET IT! Shows what you've got and I will show MINE!
I do appreciate enthusiasm and showmanship.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1199278]Na I think we should start a biz. We could make a fortune scamming guy like this. We can pay the girls a salary of 4k they can have 20 guys sending us money every month. We can do photos and dockets.
Any time a guys visits we can think of some scam and get the police involved so we can clean out his bank accounts.
Oh wait I been living here too long[/QUOTE]Nice, but I couldn't sleep at night. I'd rather try the cyber method sans the scam. Build a better dateinasia. Com and the mongers will come. Just need to sell ads and offer special memberships cheap. And certainly assist the ladies in writing better copy. Most need the help. Do you think I could I collect payment-in-kind? And would I want to?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193255]I think you guys misunderstood my question. No way I'll ever send money to someone I haven't met. I already know that.
My question was, why do some DIAers find mostly moneygrubbers while other DIAers find mostly genuine girls when it's the same dating pool?[/QUOTE]If a guy age 55+ is writing a lady age 18-22, she is usually interested in money and he is usually interested in young sex. But I think some guys are attracted to scammers the same way some Al-Anon women can pick out an alcoholic from 50 feet. In both cases, their radar gives them a bad feed.
I knew a guy who wanted to date beautiful women. He made good money, but hadn't considered all his options. I told him "Get plastic surgery." You just have to know your strong and weak points and go from there. Now I would tell him dateinasia. Com. After the surgery, of course.
I get rejected by 19 out of 20 women, sometimes quite expressively. But that 20th woman makes the hunt worthwhile. Or not. There is a reason I read this site, after all.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1199414]Sending women money before you meet them is never a good idea no matter how small the sum. To you it seems like no big deal. You think, 'It's only 20 dollars. ' She thinks, 'Wow, I just made 840 pesos just by chatting with this guy. ' Soon she is doing multiple chats and pulling 840 pesos and up from dozens of lonely guys. The easy money is like crack cocaine and the requests start. You get mad but can you blame her? Think of it this way, you give your girlfriend a few puffs on a crack pipe. She likes it and wants more. She is addicted to crack. In order to get more to ease the cravings she starts lying and stealing from you. You're angry at her because she is a crack-head. But wasn't you the one that gave her the first taste of that ice?
If no one ever sent Filipinas money without first meeting and boning them there would be no scammers online. When you send money to girls who you've never met in person you're offering incentives for them to become scammers. Filipinos are not loose with their money when dealing with each other. When you start off relationships by dispensing cash don't be annoyed if they start treating you like an ATM. Would you do the same thing at home? Do you give women money to pay for internet access and phone bills simply because they communicate with you?
Now, this girl has 3 mouths to feed. 4 if you include hers. Her priority will always be supporting the kids and herself. If she is spending precious pesos chatting with you most likely she is expecting more than a Viagra induced pounding and some chocolates for her time and money. An hour a day video chatting is a lot of time and money for a girl with that much responsibility to spend on a guy she might never meet. It's quite possible that working the internet is her job. It's not unusual for internet girls to cultivate several sponsors at a time. If you want to play sugar-daddy and save her and the kids then keep at it. Though, it would seem that you're not getting the best return on your investment in light of all the other options available. Perhaps, you're seeking a ready-made family. If not, you may want to reconsider setting the girl and yourself up for a huge disappointment in the future.[/QUOTE]I do not thing the situation is quite so black and white as you paint it.
Sure the women want money, that's true any place in the world; in poorer countries they need it more.
If you give a woman money does not automatically turn her into a scammer, depends on the woman.
I think it's ok to send small amounts as a gift. It's the guys who are stupid and don't know how to say "no" that get abused financially. If it wasn't a pinay milking them it would be someone else. Some people are born to be prey. Are you living in the Philippines; if so for how long. I must say you are even more cynical than I am.
As Santa would say. To give is to receive.
I never send money nowadays. Beggars will last 3 sec on my Yahoo-list. I did however send money a few times during the years. A couple of times it turned out to be a well invested token of trust. A couple of times it evolved to some sort or cam tease entertainment and I felt that I got some bang for the buck, sitting in dull Europe. And a couple of times it was a plain rip off. On the level of stealing candy compared to what I spent on other females over the years. But still technically a full scaled rip off.
Shame on me, but a couple of times in the past I took advantage of a girl, having her show her tits and pussy in cam, only to "get a problem with Xoom". Not so elegant or gentleman like, but I blame the beers and previous rip off see*nt (nowadays I am a f*cking saint).
Livejasmin charge 1-2 USD a minute and AsianBabesChat more or less the same. For anyone that wants distraction, entertainment and / or the illusion of a relation, it can be just as well invested money and time, as hundreds of other things people push energy (read money and time) into. CM, I can see your way of reasoning living in the hot zone, but on the other hand we pay several times a day to get a specific emotion. Not only sexual, but several other "states of mind" will be induced by various media we pay for. Books, films, the eructation generally refereed as "news", beers, etc. We spend money distracting ourselves simply, and we take the best one available for our current budget. Most often we will be a part of motivating the provider to continue. And surely providing some sort of cam entertainment, be it social or sexual, is less harmful than crack to the general maximization of happiness? Hell, these on-line providers might even be part of a grand training program where they (we) teach pinays to maintain a dependant mindset, resulting in them on top of one of us, sooner than later. How could we possibly evaluate the real consequences of these 20 USD?
"Scammers" is in fact quite a wide definition. I think it is a way to categorize people who either waste our time or money, or both, and do not produce sufficient return on the investment (but wait. This is the exact description of my "advisor" at the bank).
The simple ones are easily detected and consume very little time. The more elaborate scammers often provide some value, but in the end it turns out to be less than we expected. Still perhaps on a level that will only be considered problematic if we weigh pride and ego into the evaluation. The professional scammers are fortunately very few, and most of us only knows about a friend of a brother of a guy that we heard of, that was scammed of something worth crying about. I can guarantee anyone that Richard S. Fuld, Jr. Created more on-line scammers than the combined ISG population will, in all eternity. One could say that Fuld is Indian Chief Scam number one (or perhaps I have him confused with Chief Henry Paulson?).
Perspective, gentlemen.
All the best from Barba.
Countdown for Davao
[QUOTE=Barba;1200496]Livejasmin charge 1-2 USD a minute[/QUOTE]Now charging in Euros and comes out to at least $2. 50 a minute. Out of that the girls who work in a "Studio" for a boss get half of what he gets which is 35% of the total. So the girl gets 17. 5% of what you have paid. If you get off on webcam chats, better for both of you to exchange YMs and deal direct.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1200468]I do not thing the situation is quite so black and white as you paint it.
Sure the women want money, that's true any place in the world; in poorer countries they need it more.
If you give a woman money does not automatically turn her into a scammer, depends on the woman.
I think it's ok to send small amounts as a.[/QUOTE]No, it is very simple. Girls who beg are looking for an easy way out. Guys who give are encouraging this behavior. Black and white.
Keep in mind most Filipinas comes from huge families. If she needs money for something crucial (tuition, medical, burial, exam fees, etc) how come she can't ask her parents, siblings or her several dozen uncles, aunts or cousins? The answer is, her "need" is bullshit (new phone, partying, clothes, etc). And her family won't give money for it.
Also, most guys give $ expecting her to be an exclusive girlfriend. If you give with the understanding that she's also asking other guys, fine. Also, if you give, she's very likely using your $ to party with other guys. Some pinoy is fucking her with condoms that you paid for. Again, if you're OK with it, it's your call.
Bottom line is, a guy shouldn't just give without getting something in return, whether its sex or some exclusive arrangement that leads to marriage. If you give and not take, you deserve to be had. Why not give to recognized charities instead that would ensure your $ truly goes to something life saving?
Wow, they look soft, don't they? Her arms look a bit flabby, I doubt that she is really 84lb. And works in the sewer? I wonder what that is about.
X
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1200636]No, it is very simple. Girls who beg are looking for an easy way out. Guys who give are encouraging this behavior. Black and white.
Keep in mind most Filipinas comes from huge families. If she needs money for something crucial (tuition, medical, burial, exam fees, etc) how come she can't ask her parents, siblings or her several dozen uncles, aunts or cousins? The answer is, her "need" is bullshit (new phone, partying, clothes, etc). And her family won't give money for it.[/QUOTE]FF you think along the same lines as I do. I just showed up on the scene 5 minutes ago and now all of a sudden I am your savior? What did you do last time you had a problem before you knew me? What will you do next time you have a problem if I am not there? You have all of these friends and family, yet you ask of a total / virtual stranger? That reeks of scam. But why not ask? Some sucker will eventually say yes. And what is the worst that can happen? They may say no. Big deal. A closed mouth doesn't get fed.
As Barba said, someone who asks for money will last about 3 seconds with me. Last week I met a girl here in Thailand from Tagged. She is an accountant. We hung out together all day Sunday. I had no intentions of fucking, but right before I was about to take her home we miraculously started fucking. Two days later she texted me this message and when I ignored it she sent it in messenger." (9/23/2011 9:40:35 PM) : Hi how are you my love, are you busy? I need you help me can I borrow 6500 bath? Do you have end of this month I will give back to you promise, I'm wait you reply thanks have a good day kiss" All of a sudden she needs to send her mother $200 and I'm the only person she can get it from? Seems to me she could have at least asked her boss for an advance or something because she would have better luck finding Tupac than getting money from me (without equally-valued collateral).
[QUOTE=Barba;1200496]I can guarantee anyone that Richard S. Fuld, Jr. Created more on-line scammers than the combined ISG population will, in all eternity. One could say that Fuld is Indian Chief Scam number one (or perhaps I have him confused with Chief Henry Paulson?).[/QUOTE]Perhaps I don't know Richard S. Fuld, Jr. From Elmer Fudd (fear, uncertainty, doubt and despair) but I do know we get scammed / spammed at least as often as our Asia sisters. And Henry Paulson? Did he not run for President on the People Opposing Tyranny (P. O. T.) Party? Maybe that Patrick L. Paulson; I get them confused.
In the short run, it's all entertainment. In the long run, each of us is dead (but not all. Some of us have children). Keynes was an idiot, but he did teach me how to trade currencies for fun and profit. Don't fight the Swiss Central Bank or the interest rate trend.
Is Fields Ave. Back to business as usual?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1200636]No, it is very simple. Girls who beg are looking for an easy way out. Guys who give are encouraging this behavior. Black and white.
Keep in mind most Filipinas comes from huge families. If she needs money for something crucial (tuition, medical, burial, exam fees, etc) how come she can't ask her parents, siblings or her several dozen uncles, aunts or cousins? The answer is, her "need" is bullshit (new phone, partying, clothes, etc). And her family won't give money for it.
Also, most guys give $ expecting her to be an exclusive girlfriend. If you give with the understanding that she's also asking other guys, fine. Also, if you give, she's very likely using your $ to party with other guys. Some pinoy is fucking her with condoms that you paid for. Again, if you're OK with it, it's your call.
Bottom line is, a guy shouldn't just give without getting something in return, whether its sex or some exclusive arrangement that leads to marriage. If you give and not take, you deserve to be had. Why not give to recognized charities instead that would ensure your $ truly goes to something life saving?[/QUOTE]No offense, but you sound like a heartless B*stard.
I guess I did not make myself clear in my post that you quoted, sorry for that.
I have never given money when they asked. I gave as bday present out of the goodness of my heart and BECAUSE they ran errands and did things for me there, never for nothing.
These women pay to talk to me in chat cafes. They educate me about the Phil and they find things out for me there. That plus their companionship is worth it to me to show a little generosity on their bdays.
People who know me know I am no soft touch, far from it. But I recognize these women on DIA are in a SH*T country with Cr*p opportunities. I would probably do the same thing in their situation, try to find a way out by marriage or similar. I might even ask for money.
That being said, I have noticed that many PRETEND to be very poor when they actually have far more resources then they admit to.
But you are right about one thing, many Filipinas are looking for an easy way out with no effort on their part. They expect to be swept off their feet by a foreigner on a white horse and they offer little in return. Thats probably 90% of them want something for nothing. I drop those quickly and without looking back.
Really, many of you guys need to wake up imnsho.
Elmer Fudd. LOL! . Guess we all would be better of if that was the case.
I got the hang of how to trade my currency for fun but, I wish someone would teach also me to trade currency for profit. No matter how much I trade, I end up with less.
B.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1200702]As Barba said, someone who asks for money will last about 3 seconds with me. Last week I met a girl here in Thailand from Tagged. She is an accountant. We hung out together all day Sunday. I had no intentions of fucking, but right before I was about to take her home we miraculously started fucking. Two days later she texted me this message and when I ignored it she sent it in messenger." (9/23/2011 9:40:35 PM) : Hi how are you my love, are you busy? I need you help me can I borrow 6500 bath? Do you have end of this month I will give back to you promise, I'm wait you reply thanks have a good day kiss" All of a sudden she needs to send her mother $200 and I'm the only person she can get it from? collateral).[/QUOTE]As one distinguished member once stated here," if they don't get the money they need from you they will get from someone else, so don't feel bad in saying no.". After last weeks excesses in Manila, the first one I had send me some messages about how she has "problems: and would I call her so she could explain.
The last one was having a housing problem and could I loan her P6000 so that she could get her own place to live.
In both cases the ladies at least had the good grace and style to only ask after we had had sex and after they were safely home and back in the comfort of textworld. The best I had before was when a one time freebie asked if I would buy her a new motorbike. I said no, and we continued to meet many times thereafter.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1200874]I have never given money when they asked. I gave as bday present out of the goodness of my heart and BECAUSE they ran errands and did things for me there, never for nothing.[/QUOTE]We're talking about completely different things then.
We're not talking about girls who've been a friend in a traditional sense and you buy her a Christmas or birthday gift. We're talking about girls we've just met (whether online or in-person) and they start pitching for money.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1200636]No, it is very simple. Girls who beg are looking for an easy way out. Guys who give are encouraging this behavior. Black and white.
Keep in mind most Filipinas comes from huge families. If she needs money for something crucial (tuition, medical, burial, exam fees, etc) how come she can't ask her parents, siblings or her several dozen uncles, aunts or cousins? The answer is, her "need" is bullshit (new phone, partying, clothes, etc). And her family won't give money for it.
Also, most guys give $ expecting her to be an exclusive girlfriend. If you give with the understanding that she's also asking other guys, fine. Also, if you give, she's very likely using your $ to party with other guys. Some pinoy is fucking her with condoms that you paid for. Again, if you're OK with it, it's your call.
Bottom line is, a guy shouldn't just give without getting something in return, whether its sex or some exclusive arrangement that leads to marriage. If you give and not take, you deserve to be had. Why not give to recognized charities instead that would ensure your $ truly goes to something life saving?[/QUOTE]So true! But I'm afraid that many guys are used to being doormats for women in the West and they find it hard to relate to women without opening their wallets before getting any favors from her. Anyone sending money to a woman who they've only met in cyberspace is a sucker. While it's true that these morons can do what they please with their money, their actions fuck things up for others using online sites. The news that free money is being given out online soon brings a bunch of other leeches to the dating site. This results in other users having to waste time sorting out the bullshit girls looking for easy money from the girls who genuinely want to meet. Sites like DIA realize this and warn that they not only ban girls asking for money but they will also ban the idiots who send them money then complain about being scammed.
Many guys cry about the Philippines being a poor country and in their minds this makes it right for the girls to beg for money. These are the same guys who get pissed when a trike or taxi driver pulls some bullshit on them for a few more pesos. So, why is it cool for the girls to beg for money without doing shit for a guy but it's not cool for a driver who is actually doing a little work to try his luck for some more pesos in return for his services? It seems that having a pussy entitles the girls to this right. It's typical weak dick Western male thinking.
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1200978]. It's typical weak dick Western male thinking.[/QUOTE]Sir alex Ferguson said in his BBC interview yesterday " I'm a confrontational person. I always think my view is correct. I don't like people answering me back ". I wonder if you are related.
[QUOTE=Barba; 1200914]I got the hang of how to trade my currency for fun but, I wish someone would teach also me to trade currency for profit. No matter how much I trade, I end up with less.
B.[/QUOTE]The short method is to find the most recent Goldman Sux advice to its *retail* clients and then trade the other way. Medium way is to wait for the government intervention to end, and then jump on the other side. Challenging (and most profitable way) is to write up some equations that indicate a trend, and follow trend as long as it hasn't gone stale, as determined by other equations. Do not try to invest based purely on purchasing power parity or debt / deficit levels. That way leads to one's own deficit or debt. If you watch it long enough, you will find patterns.
My method was to understand interest rates, which is tough when US, for example, plays an "Operation Twist". I will say, as of 27 Sep 2011. Do not expect gold / silver to hit a new high soon, as margin percentages have been raised to the extent that many marginal players are being played. But we don't all have the balls to sell deep in the money calls on AGQ last week, nor to cover them midday Monday. Oil inventories are also a thing I watch. They have been high for years in US. Don't know about other places, but timing on that is harder than for interest rates / currencies, meaning lost money trying that.
[QUOTE=Jack Burton; 1200082]You just ruined my breakfast (pancakes).
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/simple+Rose14.html[/url]
FUn and GAME always! At anytym and any place, GET IT! Shows what you've got and I will show MINE!
I do appreciate enthusiasm and showmanship.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.dateinasia.com/liona_cute.html.[/url] Altho a plastic bag might be a good accessory on meeting said girl.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1199808][I]Originally Posted by Great Muta in the Manila thread
Kind of off-topic, but does anyone know any good free dating sites in the phillipines? All of the ones I can find either require money to send messages or want cell phone numbers. I would prefer to just sign up and be able to talk to someone for free. [/I]
Not sure exactly why he posted this question in the MANILA thread?
Try dateolicious.com.
Seems to be a new one. I cannot vouch for it but it is free, and not just Asia. Not as user-friendly as DIA but might assist someone burned out with DIA.
Another is Find Love Asia (
[url]www.findloveasia.com[/url][/QUOTE]Mamboo has delivered one or two recent successes also. Even tho its membership is reasonably limited in numbers.
We laugh sometimes here about the spellings and crazy statements that some of the babaes make, but here's a xioajie in China who sent me a message. On reviewing her profile it says:
My name is YaoFengYu. I have a stable job, my career is a dress designer. I want to find a can and I for life, because I want to get find belongs to own that love, and the man I love. I think and I love the people together to work hard, to create a better tomorrow. I like to travel and I also like shopping. I have no BiYueXiuHua appearance, but I very sexy. I am the top hall, descend kitchen of women.
My Perfect Match:I hope my love good, filial piety, steady heavy, thoughtful understand, heavy affection; Like me to love life, to have a romantic feelings, let me be depended upon, and I hope sincere person can intercourse with me.
I of course added that I would be happy to intercourse with her!
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1200978]Many guys cry about the Philippines being a poor country and in their minds this makes it right for the girls to beg for money. These are the same guys who get pissed when a trike or taxi driver pulls some bullshit on them for a few more pesos. So, why is it cool for the girls to beg for money without doing shit for a guy but it's not cool for a driver who is actually doing a little work to try his luck for some more pesos in return for his services? It seems that having a pussy entitles the girls to this right. It's typical weak dick Western male thinking.[/QUOTE]Again, Chocha nails it.
[QUOTE=X Man; 1200690]Wow, they look soft, don't they? Her arms look a bit flabby, I doubt that she is really 84lb. And works in the sewer? I wonder what that is about.
X[/QUOTE]She means sewer as in a person that sews.
Just arrived in the Philippines for the first time, but am a regular visitor of Asia for both work and holiday. I did some preparation by reading this forum and signed up with some of the dating sites. After some chat sessions I decided to give it a try with a girl who just lives outside Manila. She came with the bus, and we met in one of the malls. I'm no Brad Pitt but kind of felt like one with her. 19 yo, perfect body, pretty face, and after some small lunch to my hotel room and great sex. She left about an hour later and only wanted some money for the bus fare. Can I consider this as some beginner luck or is this really paradise?
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/shalom_80.html[/url]!
[QUOTE=Bloomberg;1201192]19 yo, perfect body, pretty face, and after some small lunch to my hotel room and great sex. She left about an hour later and only wanted some money for the bus fare. Can I consider this as some beginner luck or is this really paradise?[/QUOTE]It really is paradise. Punctuated with brief, stark moments of hell thrown in at times (scammers, pickpockets, ladyboys, corrupt cops, etc.).
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1201357]It really is paradise. Punctuated with brief, stark moments of hell thrown in at times (scammers, pickpockets, ladyboys, corrupt cops, etc.).[/QUOTE]Sounds like a lot of fun to me.
So far I only met one ladyboy and a lot of asshole taxi drivers. The ladyboy was really fun, great sense of humor. Later on, can I come with you? Ehh. No thanks. Some of the taxi drivers are really asking to be treated like shit.
My plan is to visit some of the smaller cities south. If anyone has some suggestions, let me know. For now I have Davao, Cagayan de Oro and Cebu on my list. Hopefully the weather is there better too.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1201394]Hi Freebie, I'm meeting her at my hotel in Jakarta next March. We've been emailing. Has anyone else been with her? I'll let you know how it goes next year. Not a ravenous beauty but love those boobs![/QUOTE]Next March? 2012?
Good grief mate. That will take some stamina to keep her hot AND safe for you by that time.
I have 2 friends who have been having chats with her too. Good luck and I hope you can keep your place in the queue.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1201394]Hi Freebie, I'm meeting her at my hotel in Jakarta next March. We've been emailing. Has anyone else been with her? I'll let you know how it goes next year. Not a ravenous beauty but love those boobs![/QUOTE]As with Red; s comments I think we've all been chatting with her. I nearly had a Jakarta trip but sadly it fell through, otherwise would have been meeting her in a weeks time. She did tell me she talks to lots of guys. Can't imagine why. LOL. Enjoy Jakarta! I always do!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1201299][url]http://www.dateinasia.com/shalom_80.html[/url]
![/QUOTE][QUOTE=D Cups;1201394]Hi Freebie, I'm meeting her at my hotel in Jakarta next March. We've been emailing. Has anyone else been with her? I'll let you know how it goes next year. Not a ravenous beauty but love those boobs![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1201426]Next March? 2012?
Good grief mate. That will take some stamina to keep her hot AND safe for you by that time.
I have 2 friends who have been having chats with her too. Good luck and I hope you can keep your place in the queue.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FreebieFan;1201573]As with Red; s comments I think we've all been chatting with her. I nearly had a Jakarta trip but sadly it fell through, otherwise would have been meeting her in a weeks time. She did tell me she talks to lots of guys. Can't imagine why. LOL. Enjoy Jakarta! I always do![/QUOTE]She's also on Tagged. Yolanda S Apparently she works in a shoe store on Bloc M. Very willing to bring samples to my room. The pics on tagged are better.
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1201685]She's also on Tagged. Yolanda S Apparently she works in a shoe store on Bloc M. Very willing to bring samples to my room. The pics on tagged are better.[/QUOTE]Nice pics on Tagged.
She is obviously a very popular lass.
If D Cups meets her he will have died and gone to paradise already
Been searching around on a few new websites. Found a few with nice ladies, and currently chatting with a young lady who is 29, has a kid, nice figure nice face etc and she tells me she hasnt had sex for 6 years. Damn. 6 days and I'm already looking at girls with lust in my eyes (more so than normal LOL)
Ok every now and again we get into the subject of tipping which clearly has different connotations for different folks. And whilst we all expect to be hit on by the odd taxi driver I had never heard of an internet tip, till now.
One young gal on DIA claimed to have lots of college friends.
Said Hi to her and asked if she had one with big boobs, as one of my gf's wanted to experience kissing a girls boobs as a birthday gift from me. (beats asking for a new dress!)
Said girl said yes she could arrange, and gave contact number etc. We exchanged price information etc. Next message " and Sir where is my tip for doing this ". Got to love the attempt.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1201818]. Found a few with nice ladies, and currently chatting with a young lady who is 29, has a kid, nice figure nice face etc and she tells me she hasnt had sex for 6 years. .[/QUOTE]I bet if you asked her how old the kid was she would probably have said anything from 1yo to 4yo.
6 years sounds like an improbably long time Freebie, but I am sure you will assess it appropriately eventually.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1201868]Said girl said yes she could arrange, and gave contact number etc. We exchanged price information etc. Next message " and Sir where is my tip for doing this ". Got to love the attempt.[/QUOTE]Do you mind sharing the pricing info she gave you?
I'm chatting with a LB that also has "real" girlfriends her pricing was 3000 for ST and 5000 for LT.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1201987]I bet if you asked her how old the kid was she would probably have said anything from 1yo to 4yo.
6 years sounds like an improbably long time Freebie, but I am sure you will assess it appropriately eventually.[/QUOTE]That would be nice one. Please update us with the answer.
After a couple of chat-sessions, I met a nice young lady yesterday who told me that she could only visit me if I would send her some money for the bus fare in advance because she didn't have it and there was no one to borrow from. I told her I would give it to her at our meeting. She immediately agreed with that so she was lying to me. But for some reason she was not thinking ahead like that. Or she had the impression that I was even more stupid than I really am.
Sex was good, talking was going nowhere.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1202088]Welcome to Paradise, Bloomberg.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Although I start to see some cracks in the perfect picture already, I am still enjoying it very much here! Let's hope we survive the typhon of tomorrow.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1200961]We're talking about completely different things then.
We're not talking about girls who've been a friend in a traditional sense and you buy her a Christmas or birthday gift. We're talking about girls we've just met (whether online or in-person) and they start pitching for money.[/QUOTE]You're right, but.
Sometimes I send a girl money just because I like her and want to help her.
If that interferes with Chonga, et al's *****mongering activies, thats T. S.
Alot of these guys are just bitter, angry and cheap charlies. I am cheap but I am not heartless.
My rule is usually if she has done something for me I will send her an amount comensurate with what she has done. I have several ladies I have chatted with for several years. I consider them friends. A friend is alot more valuable than just a piece of a, imnsho
After meeting 2 girls who were only interested in a long-term relationship I decided to become more direct during chatting. One of the girls I am chatting with wants to meet for a drink and sex but she only wants sex if she can be on top. I asked her why and she responded that "missionary sex makes my ass flat". Never heard that one before but ok, I asked her what about doggystyle, she did not know that so she said she will ask. I wanted to know who she will ask this too but she did not respond to that.
Does anyone know this "belief" or is this girl just playing with me?
Furthermore, I find the dating sites very helpful together with all the info here on the forum. It is a hit-and-miss kind of thing but I enjoy it very much. So far I have divided all my experiences in the following categories:
1. Girls that are looking for a long-term relationship, getting sex on short notice proofs to be really tough.
2. Girls that really want to meet a foreigner, getting sex is quite easy, only pay for some food, bus fare, a little present like chocolates.
3. Semi-professionals, girls with other jobs or students, sex is easy but they are clear about money, asking prices vary 1000-3000 pesos.
4. Professionals.
Until now I decided to avoid (semi) professionals and only focus on the first two groups, although you can never be sure of course.
For the record, I've been having missionary sex for years with exactly zero ass damage.
[QUOTE=Bloomberg; 1202401]After meeting 2 girls who were only interested in a long-term relationship I decided to become more direct during chatting. One of the girls I am chatting with wants to meet for a drink and sex but she only wants sex if she can be on top. I asked her why and she responded that "missionary sex makes my ass flat". Never heard that one before but ok, I asked her what about doggystyle, she did not know that so she said she will ask. I wanted to know who she will ask this too but she did not respond to that.
Does anyone know this "belief" or is this girl just playing with me?
Furthermore, I find the dating sites very helpful together with all the info here on the forum. It is a hit-and-miss kind of thing but I enjoy it very much. So far I have divided all my experiences in the following categories:
1. Girls that are looking for a long-term relationship, getting sex on short notice proofs to be really tough.
2. Girls that really want to meet a foreigner, getting sex is quite easy, only pay for some food, bus fare, a little present like chocolates.
3. Semi-professionals, girls with other jobs or students, sex is easy but they are clear about money, asking prices vary 1000-3000 pesos.
4. Professionals.
Until now I decided to avoid (semi) professionals and only focus on the first two groups, although you can never be sure of course.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bloomberg;1202401]After meeting 2 girls who were only interested in a long-term relationship I decided to become more direct during chatting. One of the girls I am chatting with wants to meet for a drink and sex but she only wants sex if she can be on top. I asked her why and she responded that "missionary sex makes my ass flat". Never heard that one before but ok, I asked her what about doggystyle, she did not know that so she said she will ask. I wanted to know who she will ask this too but she did not respond to that.[/QUOTE]She probably heard it from an Aunt of hers that has a flat ass and who also spent alot of time on her back fucking.
I wonder if she will report back to you that she has a relative who barks like a dog from too much doggie style?
Filipinos are very supperstitious and they fuck alot too!
[QUOTE=Bloomberg;1202401]I asked her what about doggystyle, she did not know that so she said she will ask. I wanted to know who she will ask this too but she did not respond to that.[/QUOTE]Her boyfriend.
[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1202613]For the record, I've been having missionary sex for years with exactly zero ass damage.[/QUOTE]Hahaha killing me here. High-five?
For the record: I've been rogering pinay ass for years.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1201987]I bet if you asked her how old the kid was she would probably have said anything from 1yo to 4yo.
6 years sounds like an improbably long time Freebie, but I am sure you will assess it appropriately eventually.[/QUOTE]Hi RK. Kid is about 8, she insisted on showing me her pic. Anyway her phone number is somewhere on the list of 23 phone numbers I already have for my next trip. Some will bubble up to the top closer to trip, some will bubble down. So little time and so much to do. LOL
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1202616]I wonder if she will report back to you that she has a relative who barks like a dog from too much doggie style?[/QUOTE]Despite being very funny Tally, I am sure that there will be some girls who will believe that could happen. I actually had a girl tell me she was scared of "doggy-style" because "what if your dick gets stuck in my pussy like it does for dogs".
Extraordinarily superstitious people and with inadequate clarification of events through poor education they end up believing very weird things.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1202706]I actually had a girl tell me she was scared of "doggy-style" because "what if your dick gets stuck in my pussy like it does for dogs".[/QUOTE]Tell her you'll have a neighbor douse the both of you with the garden hose. Worked for me when my German Shepherd got stuck inside a beagle.
[QUOTE=ChiefThinker; 1202006]Do you mind sharing the pricing info she gave you?
I'm chatting with a LB that also has "real" girlfriends her pricing was 3000 for ST and 5000 for LT.[/QUOTE]Try Artie 17 on DIA
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker; 1202616]She probably heard it from an Aunt of hers that has a flat ass and who also spent alot of time on her back fucking.
I wonder if she will report back to you that she has a relative who barks like a dog from too much doggie style?
Filipinos are very supperstitious and they fuck alot too![/QUOTE]I will meet this lady this afternoon, will be an interesting experience I think. So far, I have the impression that she is serious about this and really beliefs this. By the way, last week I had a girl who told me during a small snack in a mall that she beliefs you should wait with sex until you are married cause that is what the church tells you to do. She told me she goes to church every week a couple of times and that girls who have sex before marriage are bad and sluts. After that she went with me to my room and I f*cked the sh*t out of her. Seems to me they have some strange kind of double standards here.
You have to love it when the girl of your choice (or were you the target of her choice) gets all hot and excited about a meet. They meet you, sex is ok they tell you it was fantastic, act all offended if you offer a few shillings, then later come up with an emergency as a means to try to secure some recompense.
A good well tried and tested trick. Any member who would like to have a chit chat with the following will no doubt enjoy watching said girl go thru her machinations. Thighs an inch or two thicker than you would want but very pretty face and amazing real eyelashes. Ncie young kid who was well taught about how to try to get money.
On dia called k-lah, on YM Godessa flores.
LOL on the dog comments.
Once I had a girl tell me that having the air con on in the room was bad for her uterus.
Never mind screwing a foreigner for $$$.
Still not as funny as the dog comments.
[QUOTE=Bloomberg; 1202401]After meeting 2 girls who were only interested in a long-term relationship I decided to become more direct during chatting. One of the girls I am chatting with wants to meet for a drink and sex but she only wants sex if she can be on top. I asked her why and she responded that "missionary sex makes my ass flat". Never heard that one before but ok, I asked her what about doggystyle, she did not know that so she said she will ask. I wanted to know who she will ask this too but she did not respond to that.
Does anyone know this "belief" or is this girl just playing with me?
Furthermore, I find the dating sites very helpful together with all the info here on the forum. It is a hit-and-miss kind of thing but I enjoy it very much. So far I have divided all my experiences in the following categories:
1. Girls that are looking for a long-term relationship, getting sex on short notice proofs to be really tough.
2. Girls that really want to meet a foreigner, getting sex is quite easy, only pay for some food, bus fare, a little present like chocolates.
3. Semi-professionals, girls with other jobs or students, sex is easy but they are clear about money, asking prices vary 1000-3000 pesos.
4. Professionals.
Until now I decided to avoid (semi) professionals and only focus on the first two groups, although you can never be sure of course.[/QUOTE]I think group 2 really does not exist. I had a DIA girl a few years ago who came on a bus to meet me for 5 hours. She spent three days with me, and fucked me within 5 minutes of her arrival in Makati City. She was very clear after the first day that she expected some nice gifts at the local shopping mall (I bought her a nice cell phone, amongst other things) , she wanted nice meals, etc and in the end wanted a long term relationship. She was definitely not a pro or semi pro, as she had a very good job as a scuba dive master. I might have stuck with her, but we had no chemistry whatsoever (this did not seem to bother her; she would watch TV, quickly fuck me, and then go back to TV. Or she would fuck me and then ask to go shopping. I found her completely uninteresting).
As for group 1, I think it can be subdivided: those that fuck you within the first few minutes, and those that fuck you on the second date.
I would love to hear the strategies some of the guys use for choosing their DIA girls.
i would love to hear the strategies some of the guys use for choosing their dia girls.[/quote]got onto dia after reading about it here prior to my last business trip to manila. was swamped with offers including the 5 hour by bus variety. felt bad about those as what if they didn't work out? anyway settled on the local offerings.
first night in makati sat at havana with 25 working girls as backup. and worked my phone with the 3 numbers i kept.
first girl (27 year old beauty therapist) said she was on her way, then rung back 5 mins before she was due to arrive. had not left home, but wanted to see me later in the week. whatever, (but was not surprised having read about the getting to the prom issues here). so tried number 2.
number 2 was a beautiful girl called tequila. go check her out on dia. had a very confusing couple of calls. she wanted me to come to her. wanted money (of course) in the end she said she was busy that night.
meantime number one was texting again with a change of heart. after sometime she turned up. wow! within 30 mins we were back at the new world going for it. the next day no question of money. after breakfast she left. within the hour texted and asked to meet again that night. and so we did for the next 4. dinner, drinks and back to the new world.
on the last day i offered some money to help her which she declined, but in the end took 5, 000 p for her to spend on her daughter she'd given up to a relative after falling pregnant very young. a truly lovely girl. we are meeting again when next in manila this november.
the good news i am in kl next week and have already worked the dia spin. and have 3 phone numbers!
[QUOTE=Forest;1202815]I think group 2 really does not exist.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. I have had quite a few girls that fall into this catagory.
[QUOTE=Bloomberg; 1202401]So far I have divided all my experiences in the following categories:
1. Girls that are looking for a long-term relationship, getting sex on short notice proofs to be really tough.
2. Girls that really want to meet a foreigner, getting sex is quite easy, only pay for some food, bus fare, a little present like chocolates.
3. Semi-professionals, girls with other jobs or students, sex is easy but they are clear about money, asking prices vary 1000-3000 pesos.
4. Professionals.[/QUOTE]Of all the sites you played with, as a whole, what percentage of the girls fall into which categories? Also, does the girls age have anything to do with which category she fits in?
I agree with Python, group 2 exists for sure. Had many samples. This is the group that just wants to have fun. Not directly in the sexual sense. But for a girl from a poor family, spending time in a nice mall, eating at a restaurant and getting some small
Presents on top of that, is really a "nice day out". The sex can be just the price she knows she has to pay for that or which she
Also enjoys too. That will mostly not depend on her but on you (are looks).
Many girls do not fall in one category. Many of them fall in more than one, especially 1 and 2. And how many pro's you think would stay in the business if they could find a nice bf who could take financially care of them on the level they earn with their job? So 1 and 4 and 1 and 3 also mix.
As usual, little is life is black or white.
[QUOTE=Rayne122; 1202839]Got onto DIA after reading about it here prior to my last business trip to Manila. First night in Makati sat at Havana with 25 working girls as backup. And worked my phone with the 3 numbers I kept.[/QUOTE]What about #3? Did you not get a chance to pursue her due to #1?
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1202868]Of all the sites you played with, as a whole, what percentage of the girls fall into which categories? Also, does the girls age have anything to do with which category she fits in?[/QUOTE]Hello, Amjeck,
I made the following summary of my activities so far, if someone has comments or ideas, feel free!
For finding girls I have used the following sites: DIA, Filipinocupid, Filipinokisses, Tagged, Facebook. Almost all the girls have YM so I try to chat with them via Messenger. If the girl brings up the subject of money during the first or second chat session, I stop with her. This way I try to end up only with girls who are not doing this primarily for the money. My estimation is that I lose about 70-80% of the girls during this step. It happens quite often that a girl asked within minutes if you can help her with tuition money, a repair of the house, the hospital bill for some sick relative, load for their phone. The best one so far was a girl who said an elephant had damaged some of the crops of her father. I think she had used the Thai manual instead of the Filipina version of making some money online but ok.
With the girls that remain on my list, I try to arrange a meeting in a mall for a chat and something small to eat. So far, I have met eight different girls and took three of them back to my room later on. Three of the other five showed up with friends or family members, the other two I just didn't like. I guess the girls who are not coming alone are not meeting to have sex straight away but want something long-term. If someone has some good ideas how to handle this kind of situations, feel free to post it!
I am still meeting two of the three girls I have had sex with so far. One of them is surprisingly fast transforming from a willing and horny teenager into something that is nagging, jealous, addicted to texting other people and watching Filipino soap series. Looks like it is time to move on.
BB
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1202868]Of all the sites you played with, as a whole, what percentage of the girls fall into which categories? Also, does the girls age have anything to do with which category she fits in?[/QUOTE]As an old hand on DIA, I don't think it is easy to categorise girls into 3 or 4 groups, because what you read on their profiles rarely correlates with how they behave or how they feel about guys.
You really cannot tell until AFTER YOU MEET them.
I have had numerous examples of girls who you might think were religious maniacs or who seemed to be genuinely looking for a long-term relationship and who had the routine "no scammers; no liars" phrases in their profiles who turned out to be quite the opposite when I met them and they were quite different after they had established that I was OK and not the bad foreigner that they have heard about.
One woman that I met in a coffee shop who was a professional with a good job told me after 5 minutes of talking that she had 2 hours off from work and we could go back to my hotel and if it worked out she would return later that evening. Prior to meeting her I was not at all confident that she would stay for 30 minutes over the coffee. Her profile gave no indication of her intention.
I can give other examples where the profile did NOT represent the behavior.
The sexy photos with the woman showing a lot of cleavage etc does NOT mean she is good to go. In fact, rather perversely, this often means the opposite.
In general, even the hard- nosed hookers (Category 3 & 4 from above) will still put syrupy messages in their profiles on DIA because they still hope that they just might meet their Mr Nice Guy who will fall for them and sweep them away from their difficult lives.
You need to actually meet many of these women before you make a judgement. Do not promise ANYTHING on chat or messages until you meet them. Always allow yourself an escape hole in case she turns out to be a dud in the first meeting so that you can gracefully exit and get on to the next name on your list. I think more have turned out to be gems when I met them than have been duds so I always try to meet them before I make an assessment.
I am going to visit I the Philippines in February, I tried last weekend to contact some members of Dia and Tagged.
Honestly I have not had much success, perhaps due to my destination is far away and I was honest with them I have not promised them a meeting place for a serious relationship, but asking them to have fun.
The responses were mostly negative, and I only received interest from gay men and transvestites.
Perhaps the residents are luckier because they are coveted by the girls who live in the country.
Perhaps I am being a tourist in Manila that he will soon be better to go directly to the MBC without losing much time in chat rooms.
What do you advise me?
Is it worth spending time in meetings with uncertain results?
I am not a frequent user of DIA, I mostly use Cherry Blossoms.
Of the women that I meet, almost all fall into the Category 2 variety.
We agree to meet.
We meet.
Within a short time we go to my hotel, and within minutes of entering the room, I am entering her private parts.
Money is rarely raised, and I offer some money for presents for the kids or something, plus something to offset the cost of bus fares.
Easy,
G
[QUOTE=Hellas;1203207]I am going to visit I the Philippines in February, I tried last weekend to contact some members of Dia and Tagged. Honestly I have not had much success[/QUOTE]Wait until January.
"I guess the girls who are not coming alone are not meeting to have sex straight away but want something long-term. If someone has some good ideas how to handle this kind of situations, feel free to post it!"
Bloomberg,
The problem of a girl bringing a whole lot of friends / family along is a common one. If you buy Jollibee for her and two friends, eventually leading to sex, then okay, but how do you know you're not being taken advantage of by a girl who has no interest in you?
One friend of mine says,"If you come alone, I will buy you a meal, but if you bring friends, I'll only buy drinks."
Another friend of mine had a girl show up with a dozen family members. He excused himself to the restroom, climbed out the window, and took off!
You can try to insist on meeting the girl alone, in public. Most girls should be able to handle that. If you stick this as a policy, you may "lose" some girls, but who knows how many of them are freeloaders / moochers?
Another possibility would be to limit it to the girl and one friend. Try Starbucks, Bo's, or something like Zagu, where you can get a drink for something like 50 pesos.
If that one friend is her mother, it is often not the deal-killer you think it would be. Typically, the girl likes the macho, unemployed, shabu-using young Filipino guy, while her mother is encouraging her to meet a mature, wealthy foreigner. The last meeting I had with a mom went well. We went to Jollibee's, mom got lunch (I insisted) , mom went back to work, and my girl and I went on our date.
If you can approach a lone girl in person in Colon or at the mall, you can avoid the whole issue of the Partridge Family bus rolling up at the Jollibee's where you agreed to meet.
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1203328]"I guess the girls who are not coming alone are not meeting to have sex straight away but want something long-term. If someone has some good ideas how to handle this kind of situations, feel free to post it!"
Bloomberg,
The problem of a girl bringing a whole lot of friends / family along is a common one. If you buy Jollibee for her and two friends, eventually leading to sex, then okay, but how do you know you're not being taken advantage of by a girl who has no interest in you?
One friend of mine says,"If you come alone, I will buy you a meal, but if you bring friends, I'll only buy drinks."
Another friend of mine had a girl show up with a dozen family members. He excused himself to the restroom, climbed out the window, and took off!
You can try to insist on meeting the girl alone, in public. Most girls should be able to handle that. If you stick this as a policy, you may "lose" some girls, but who knows how many of them are freeloaders / moochers?
Another possibility would be to limit it to the girl and one friend. Try Starbucks, Bo's, or something like Zagu, where you can get a drink for something like 50 pesos.
If that one friend is her mother, it is often not the deal-killer you think it would be. Typically, the girl likes the macho, unemployed, shabu-using young Filipino guy, while her mother is encouraging her to meet a mature, wealthy foreigner. The last meeting I had with a mom went well. We went to Jollibee's, mom got lunch (I insisted) , mom went back to work, and my girl and I went on our date.
If you can approach a lone girl in person in Colon or at the mall, you can avoid the whole issue of the Partridge Family bus rolling up at the Jollibee's where you agreed to meet.[/QUOTE]Just went through a whole lot of drama about the " friend" thing with a Filipina here in Taipei.
23 lovely and would have been a good bedmate. If I could have got her there.
We agree to meet, then 2 hours before I'm going to depart to her city she says " well I'm bringing my friend its ok for you.
No honey its not ok, I'm 50 plus years old and I don't need to entertain your friend much less for her food and drink. Said lady gives me the " its not safe for a Filipina to meet a foreigner line " I of course suggest that we are in Taipei maybe we are both the foreigner. That got the " huh?" reply as expected.
Anyways she insists that friend comes and that maybe on second date she would meet me alone.
She then says if I go alone what would my plans have been.
I reply we could have lunched, drank then probably repaired to a short time hotel as I have done with many many other Filipinas in her city.
She replied with the classic " but I'm not that kind of girl ". I replied " neither we the others " then hit delete.
Once in Manila for the sheer fun of seeing what would happen I agreed to meet one girl who had told she would bring her cousin. Which was true plus the cousins mates, her mum, sister, uncle father and a whole gang.
Well I let them all go to some restaurant and we were all sitting there waiting for one more family member (were 12 of them in total) when I made my phone ring, had an imaginary conversation whereby I had a water leak in my condo and had to leave immediately. Advised them I'd be back. (forgot to mention that I'd be back in another lifetime. LOL.) they looked so sad to see lunch walking out the door. Hahahah
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1203328]"I guess the girls who are not coming alone are not meeting to have sex straight away but want something long-term. If someone has some good ideas how to handle this kind of situations, feel free to post it!"
Bloomberg,
The problem of a girl bringing a whole lot of friends / family along is a common one. If you buy Jollibee for her and two friends, eventually leading to sex, then okay, but how do you know you're not being taken advantage of by a girl who has no interest in you?
One friend of mine says,"If you come alone, I will buy you a meal, but if you bring friends, I'll only buy drinks."
Another friend of mine had a girl show up with a dozen family members. He excused himself to the restroom, climbed out the window, and took off!
You can try to insist on meeting the girl alone, in public. Most girls should be able to handle that. If you stick this as a policy, you may "lose" some girls, but who knows how many of them are freeloaders / moochers?
Another possibility would be to limit it to the girl and one friend. Try Starbucks, Bo's, or something like Zagu, where you can get a drink for something like 50 pesos.
If that one friend is her mother, it is often not the deal-killer you think it would be. Typically, the girl likes the macho, unemployed, shabu-using young Filipino guy, while her mother is encouraging her to meet a mature, wealthy foreigner. The last meeting I had with a mom went well. We went to Jollibee's, mom got lunch (I insisted) , mom went back to work, and my girl and I went on our date.
If you can approach a lone girl in person in Colon or at the mall, you can avoid the whole issue of the Partridge Family bus rolling up at the Jollibee's where you agreed to meet.[/QUOTE]Hello, SergeantRay,
Thanks for the tips! I don't mind buying a drink or a snack for someone extra but my experience so far is that it is making the conversation kind of strange. However, my best experience so far is with a girl I met last Sunday who brought two classmates. The girl appeared to be quite shy etc. So I expected nothing out of this. After some texting however, we met yesterday again. This time 1 on 1 and it was quite easy to get her to my room. Best sex I have had in years!
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1203011]As an old hand on DIA, I don't think it is easy to categorise girls into 3 or 4 groups, because what you read on their profiles rarely correlates with how they behave or how they feel about guys.
You really cannot tell until AFTER YOU MEET them.[/QUOTE]I have only been to Makati City once, I had a few DIA girls. I also enjoyed the massage parlors (OK massages, great blow jobs) and the P4P scene when I wasn't with my DIA girl (although I did take a few hours off from her everyday for "meetings" to sample the massage parlors in the vicinity of the Shangri La Hotel).
Although I have an opinion of DIA, I am not speaking from a wealth of experience and I readily admit I must be wrong about category 2 girls. As I said, one of my girls was almost a cat 2, until the second day when she expected me to take her on a shopping spree for a new cell phone and a few other items.
If I understand Red Kilt above, one can never be certain about a DIA girl based on her profile. But I wonder, is it equally a waste of time to send messages back and forth and ask her if she is interested in spending the night with you, etc? Surely, if she says she is dying to spend the night with you, sex is inevitable (of course, this could be the sign that she is a pro).
So here is my question, RK: do you just invite the girls that strike you as pretty / sexy / good lays and assume that you will have to evaluate them in the field and leave it at that, or do you have any filters you use to try and avoid the duds?
And finally, what do you do about the girls that want to bring along Mom or their best friend or whmoever? For a guy like me, who may get 4 days in Manila this winter, I would like to maximize the GFEs from DIA (keeping in mind that great P4P is always around the corner, so I am not likely to be unhappy in the end).
[QUOTE=David_33;1203302]Wait until January.[/QUOTE]Right. For many girls online,"attention span" may as well be the name of a bridge.
[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1203557]Right. For many girls online,"attention span" may as well be the name of a bridge.[/QUOTE]Yup, right there mate. Until proved otherwise, it is best to assume that they have the ' attention span' of an alzeimic goldfish! Unless money is the matter under discussion, of course.
"Just went through a whole lot of drama about the " friend" thing with a Filipina here in Taipei.
23 lovely and would have been a good bedmate. If I could have got her there.
We agree to meet, then 2 hours before I'm going to depart to her city she says " well I'm bringing my friend its ok for you.
No honey its not ok, I'm 50 plus years old and I don't need to entertain your friend much less for her food and drink. Said lady gives me the " its not safe for a Filipina to meet a foreigner line " I of course suggest that we are in Taipei maybe we are both the foreigner. That got the " huh?" reply as expected.
Anyways she insists that friend comes and that maybe on second date she would meet me alone."
Freebie Fan and Bloomberg,
The above sounds like a judgment call. You have to read body language or just get a sense of what is motivating the girl. Still, there are bound to be times when you get it wrong."Sure things" often collapse while seeming lost causes come through unexpectedly.
I think the solution is:
1) Try to be smart. Be aware that girls will scam you for drinks and meals, and try to head them off at the pass. Set clear rules: just you, just you and one friend or family member, etc. The more that you have a policy or guidelines, the less likely you are to be taken.
For instance, my Dutch friend tells me "Don't ever buy a phone load for a girl you've never met. It never works." I took his advice and use it as a rule. If a girl is really interested in you, she can borrow a friend's phone. The more you operate by a policy, the less likely you are to give into lust.
2) Try to limit your expenses. Be aware of how much you're prepared to lose. Your policy should be that you are tight / cheap as hell with strangers, but generous in the extreme with lovers. Some guys waltz in blindly, thinking that throwing money around will pay off.they don't realize they are inviting themselves to be taken advantage of.
3) Follow your gut. I know this seems to conflict with number one, but if you start with your guidelines, you've got a set of rules to help protect you. I had one girl who I sensed was pushing too hard for dinner with friends, so I dropped her. Once I bought a load for a girl on a first date. I had my doubts, but I sensed she was into me, and it paid off.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1203474]I have only been to Makati City once, I had a few DIA girls. I also enjoyed the massage parlors (OK massages, great blow jobs) and the P4P scene when I wasn't with my DIA girl (although I did take a few hours off from her everyday for "meetings" to sample the massage parlors in the vicinity of the Shangri La Hotel).
Although I have an opinion of DIA, I am not speaking from a wealth of experience and I readily admit I must be wrong about category 2 girls. As I said, one of my girls was almost a cat 2, until the second day when she expected me to take her on a shopping spree for a new cell phone and a few other items.
If I understand Red Kilt above, one can never be certain about a DIA girl based on her profile. But I wonder, is it equally a waste of time to send messages back and forth and ask her if she is interested in spending the night with you, etc? Surely, if she says she is dying to spend the night with you, sex is inevitable (of course, this could be the sign that she is a pro).
So here is my question, RK: do you just invite the girls that strike you as pretty / sexy / good lays and assume that you will have to evaluate them in the field and leave it at that, or do you have any filters you use to try and avoid the duds?
And finally, what do you do about the girls that want to bring along Mom or their best friend or whmoever? For a guy like me, who may get 4 days in Manila this winter, I would like to maximize the GFEs from DIA (keeping in mind that great P4P is always around the corner, so I am not likely to be unhappy in the end).[/QUOTE]If you have just 4 days then its best to sound them out first. Just tell them that your plan is to meet them and you are expecting sex. The girls that agree to this will generally be semi pro but unless you are aiming at the older end of the market that's always going to be true unless you are one of those guys who wants to trick the girls into having sex on an unwritten assumption that you are looking for something long term or willing to buy her stuff. You may miss out on some peaches but you haven't got the time that someone based in Phils has to shift through the duds. So better tell them exactly what you have in mind and if they are not up for it don't bother with them move on to another.
Re partner coming along too. Sometimes this works OK if an aunty is just bringing the girl to you to mae sure you are not a monster or looking to score a jollybees. Sometimes you get lucky and a threesome with a sexy freind can be on the cards. If she wants to bring along a Lady Boy friend or cousin my policy is generally to say no as typiclly the LB just wants to intermediate as a pimp unless he can persuade you to give him a try too.
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1203620]1) Try to be smart. Be aware that girls will scam you for drinks and meals, and try to head them off at the pass. Set clear rules: just you, just you and one friend or family member, etc. The more that you have a policy or guidelines, the less likely you are to be taken.
For instance, my Dutch friend tells me "Don't ever buy a phone load for a girl you've never met. It never works." I took his advice and use it as a rule. If a girl is really interested in you, she can borrow a friend's phone. The more you operate by a policy, the less likely you are to give into lust.
2) Try to limit your expenses. Be aware of how much you're prepared to lose. Your policy should be that you are tight / cheap as hell with strangers, but generous in the extreme with lovers. Some guys waltz in blindly, thinking that throwing money around will pay off. They don't realize they are inviting themselves to be taken advantage of.
3) Follow your gut. I know this seems to conflict with number one, but if you start with your guidelines, you've got a set of rules to help protect you. I had one girl who I sensed was pushing too hard for dinner with friends, so I dropped her. Once I bought a load for a girl on a first date. I had my doubts, but I sensed she was into me, and it paid off.[/QUOTE]I had to get used to the idea that some girls don't mind spending a long time in a bus just to get a free meal but that is the reality here. It happens, so you need to take into account that this could be the main reason why a girl (with or without friends) wants to meet you.
The rules I use (without really giving it much thought) are:
1) Never give money to someone you never met, actually if a girl asks for money via chat I just stop with her.
2) Be in charge, I determine time and place of meeting, I think this is also helpful when it comes to your safety.
3) Have some back-up plan in case it doesn't work out, for now I do this by inviting a girl over who I met before and resulted in a good experience. After being in Manila for about 2 weeks now, I have a list of 4 girls I can call. If I move to another place I need to start all over with this but for me that is actually part of the fun.
Spending some money on a girl is not a problem to me, even if it doesn't result in good sex, but I limit this to some drink or a small snack now. I stopped with small gifts beforehand, in my opinion it doesn't really help.
BB
[QUOTE=Forest; 1203474]. SNIP. .
If I understand Red Kilt above, one can never be certain about a DIA girl based on her profile. But I wonder, is it equally a waste of time to send messages back and forth and ask her if she is interested in spending the night with you, etc? . .
So here is my question, RK: do you just invite the girls that strike you as pretty / sexy / good lays and assume that you will have to evaluate them in the field and leave it at that, or do you have any filters you use to try and avoid the duds?
And finally, what do you do about the girls that want to bring along Mom or their best friend or whmoever? For a guy like me, who may get 4 days in Manila this winter, I would like to maximize the GFEs from DIA (keeping in mind that great P4P is always around the corner, so I am not likely to be unhappy in the end).[/QUOTE]My comments are based on the premise that I live here and so I can take my time to check out and even cultivate some "friendships".
I can afford the time to meet, check out, evaluate, and either meet again or "discard".
The major problem for you Forest is that you have 4 days only, so you need to be very frank, upfront and direct, with no pussy-footing around.
FF, myself and others have posted on here several times about how if you cannot afford to waste time doing the culling and vetting then you must have a profile that is clear what you want and expect.
Let your profile do the culling and sorting but you need to be a little bit careful (and subtle) that the profile is not crude or offensive to the goody-goody two shoes brigade who will report you to the board and that may get your profile deleted.
A line I frequently use to good effect is that:
"I am a gentleman; I am a naughty gentleman but I am always a gentleman". They seems to like this one.
Do not be put off that girls will not respond to a direct profile that makes it clear you want fun only with no strings attached. Quite the contrary.
You will be surprised by the number and the apparent "quality" of the contacts you will make.
The irony is that filipinas really LIKE guys who are direct, frank and seem to have a no bullshit approach, even if it appears that you are just interested in sex only.
Strange but true.
I know someone once posted about a website that allows one to send free text messages (SMS) to the Philippines, but for the life of me I can't find it. I guess I need to do my searches before kissing the Bicardi bottle. A little help please... :o
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1203738]Let your profile do the culling and sorting but you need to be a little bit careful (and subtle) that the profile is not crude or offensive to the goody-goody two shoes brigade who will report you to the board and that may get your profile deleted.[/QUOTE]Not only that, the Ambassador of Fatness might use you as one of his statistics. LOL
[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1203739]I know someone once posted about a website that allows one to send free text messages (SMS) to the Philippines, but for the life of me I can't find it. I guess I need to do my searches before kissing the Bicardi bottle. A little help please. :o[/QUOTE]I asked the original question and [url]www.chikka.com[/url] Was the solution. Thanks Marconista. You have to register and get a password but it works good. Limited to 120 characters per message.
Slim
Last I heard, the CS is doing Nobel laureate level research on Goldfish reproduction.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1203567]Yup, right there mate. Until proved otherwise, it is best to assume that they have the ' attention span' of an alzeimic goldfish! Unless money is the matter under discussion, of course.[/QUOTE]
I have been browsing chicken8 porn site recently which seems to focus on asian material, and was surprised to recognise a number of faces I met over time in person. Here is Jenny, a girl I met about 18 months ago in makati, she was a nice date, not the most exciting conversationalist but she compensated for it with nice bedroom skills. Didnt give me any crap and havent asked for a dime except I paid the bills when we go out. I lost contact with her about a year ago, supposedly she was going to Singapore to work as a "waitress". Today I discover her on a porn video, she's the busty one, no idea who the other 2 are:
[url]http://www.chicken8.com/video/14918/3-pinay-with-1-guy.html[/url]
Note to self: I've been here way too long.. when u recognise one familiar face per 3 porn videos, it's a sign of a mongering addiction gone too far!
[QUOTE=SergeantRay;1203328]If that one friend is her mother, it is often not the deal-killer you think it would be. Typically, the girl likes the macho, unemployed, shabu-using young Filipino guy, while her mother is encouraging her to meet a mature, wealthy foreigner. The last meeting I had with a mom went well. We went to Jollibee's, mom got lunch (I insisted) , mom went back to work, and my girl and I went on our date.[/QUOTE]I agree, having mom as chaperone can surprisingly lead to good outcomes. Just be nice to the mom, and after half an hour you can suggest that she should leave the two of you to go to videoke or whatever. She'll usually agree and you are alone with your date.
The worst chaperone in my experience is a female collegemate of the girl of the same age. Also the most common! The girl will want to look decent in front of her friend and will refuse to go to hotel afterwards. Otherwise the friend will gossip about it next day in school. (hear this, Analyn went out with this old tourist last night, sent me home and stayed at night in his hotel, what a ****!)
My usual reply to "Can I bring my friend?" is "OK, but they pay their own bills" which usually instantly ends the whole thing. Yes, I am aware that some chaperoned dates work out well, and some even lead to 3somes, but these are exceptions, the rule is that chaperoned dates are a royal waste of time. Time is money, I am willing to let go of some unpromising leads to save time.
[quote]Another possibility would be to limit it to the girl and one friend. Try Starbucks, Bo's, or something like Zagu, where you can get a drink for something like 50 pesos.[/QUOTE]Zagu is horrible and avoid at all cost IMHO. Powdered milk mixed with day old mall water (if you are lucky) and ice shavings, with a dash of unknown flavoring and the occasional fake marshmellow.
Stick with Jollibee and McDo where you can buy a drink for around 25p and a whole meal for 100p. For the more upscale meetings Starbucks and Bo's are a better option, just double-check which Bo's or Starbucks you will meet as some malls have several of each.
This took place over about 2 months. I was at work and busy when she first showed up on ym. So yeah I was a bit rude.
Her (2011/05/30 14:50:41) : hey want to go private cam with me, LOL.
Me (2011/05/30 14:50:55) : hey want to not bother me?
Then two weeks or so ago I get this.
Her (2011/09/20 14:59:25) : Hi can you help me to removed my video?
Me (2011/09/20 15:00:51) : what?
Her (2011/09/20 15:01:18) : my gf post it*
Me (2011/09/20 15:01:23) : where?
Her (2011/09/20 15:01:41) : I had fight my gf and she post my vie online is just happen I download the vid on her loptop.
Her (2011/09/20 15:01:54) : search me on google and look my name xxxx yyyy.
Her (2011/09/20 15:05:24) : is just I ask you to help me to removed it from there.
Her (2011/09/20 15:05:29) : I ask some friends also.
Her (2011/09/20 15:05:40) : as of many complain possible got removed from there.
Me (2011/09/20 15:05:45) : what do I get in return?
Her (2011/09/20 15:06:07) : if you help is good for me if you ask something I cannot gve.
Me (2011/09/20 15:06:25) : Sorry don't understand.
Her (2011/09/20 15:06:50) : nothing to give you in return.
Me (2011/09/20 15:07:07) : so why would I help you?
Her (2011/09/20 15:07:19) : nevermind, thanks then.
Her (2011/09/20 15:08:41) : I ask you to help me to report that video on the website maybe email them or have the removal there.
And today:
Her (2011/10/07 16:43:56) : Hi my video is already deleted.
Me (2011/10/07 16:44:14) : don't know.
Her (2011/10/07 16:44:21) : I know.
Her (2011/10/07 16:44:24) : I check it.
Me (2011/10/07 16:44:33) : on how many sites?
Her (2011/10/07 16:44:46) : all site.
Her (2011/10/07 16:46:36) : who you think deletd it tho?
Me * (2011/10/07 16:46:50) : I don't know and to be honest don't care.
Her (2011/10/07 16:50:37) : Ok I wish you good luck.
Me (2011/10/07 16:50:50) : you too.
Me (2011/10/07 16:50:57) : don't make any more porn videos.
Me (2011/10/07 16:50:59) : LOL.
Her (2011/10/07 16:51:14) : Nope no more that is the last one.
Her (2011/10/07 16:56:31) : just wish me goodluck.
Me (2011/10/07 16:56:39) : what for?
Her (2011/10/07 16:56:54) : Maybe he is the one that I looking for*
Me (2011/10/07 16:57:03) : No idea.
Me (2011/10/07 16:57:17) : You pm me so I'm just responding.
Me (2011/10/07 16:57:21) : accordingly.
Her (2011/10/07 16:57:30) :?
Me (2011/10/07 16:57:49) : I don't care if you get a good one or not*nothing to do with me*couldn't give a shit*understand?
Her (2011/10/07 16:59:31) : Uh well I just ask you to wiash me lick*
Her (2011/10/07 16:59:38) : luck.
Me (2011/10/07 16:59:44) : why would I do that_.
Her (2011/10/07 16:59:52) : why not.
Me (2011/10/07 16:59:52) : we arent friends*why would I.
Her (2011/10/07 17:00:05) : I guess you have some problem.
Me (2011/10/07 17:00:17) : No I just don't know you.
Her (2011/10/07 17:00:58) : Ok bye I don't need this.
Her (2011/10/07 17:00:59) : hahaha.
Her (2011/10/07 17:01:07) : is crazy going to deleted you now.
Me (2011/10/07 17:01:15) : I don't know you.
Me (2011/10/07 17:01:19) : who cares.
Me (2011/10/07 17:01:27) : do it.
Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
So I am supposed to jump through hoops and help this girl who pestered me once and I removed from contacts to get a video she made with some guy if her sucking his dick (I saw part of it) and help her remove it from some sites. And also after she said it's removed wish her luck in something else.
And she didn't seem to grasp that I, as a stranger, did not care to start with. I continue to be amazed with Filippinas and their ways. LOL
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1204072]So I am supposed to jump through hoops and help this girl who pestered me once and I removed from contacts to get a video she made with some guy if her sucking his dick (I saw part of it) and help her remove it from some sites. And also after she said it's removed wish her luck in something else.[/QUOTE]I have a separate YM account that I only use for monkey business. Actually separate everything. A name, YM, email, facebook, phone number etc. For your mongering persona. Keep that crap separate from your work / friends. I would also be extremely annoyed getting pestered with bullshit during work hours.
I don't know Hatguy, I'm sure 90% of the forum members who have used DIA or one of the other dating sites have had those kind of conversations. However we don't need to try and make ourselves look superior by making fun of the girls. Even though they may speak English (more or less), their culture is extremely different from our Western one and their socio-economic situation is so dismal that IMHO who are we to judge them. A lot of guys on ISG seem to enjoy belittling the Filipinas for one reason or another. If a person has so little self esteem that he needs to go after some uneducated Pinay girl to make himself feel important, then I think that morally the girl comes out on top.
[QUOTE=David_33;1204094]I don't know Hatguy, I'm sure 90% of the forum members who have used DIA or one of the other dating sites have had those kind of conversations. However we don't need to try and make ourselves look superior by making fun of the girls. Even though they may speak English (more or less), their culture is extremely different from our Western one and their socio-economic situation is so dismal that IMHO who are we to judge them. A lot of guys on ISG seem to enjoy belittling the Filipinas for one reason or another. If a person has so little self esteem that he needs to go after some uneducated Pinay girl to make himself feel important, then I think that morally the girl comes out on top.[/QUOTE]Completely agree with this one, just enjoy the experience!
I am sure that the girls are as amazed by our behaviour as we sometimes are about theirs.
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist; 1203991]I have been browsing chicken8 porn site recently which seems to focus on asian material, and was surprised to recognise a number of faces I met over time in person. Here is Jenny, a girl I met about 18 months ago in makati, she was a nice date, not the most exciting conversationalist but she compensated for it with nice bedroom skills. Didn't give me any crap and haven't asked for a dime except I paid the bills when we go out. I lost contact with her about a year ago, supposedly she was going to Singapore to work as a "waitress". Today I discover her on a porn video, she's the busty one, no idea who the other 2 are:
[url]http://www.chicken8.com/video/14918/3-pinay-with-1-guy.html[/url]
Note to self: I've been here way too long. When you recognise one familiar face per 3 porn videos, it's a sign of a mongering addiction gone too far![/QUOTE]I thought this little piglet looked familiar so I went through some old pics from a couple years ago and voila. I was balls deep in all 3 holes within 20 minutes of her arrival. Service was okay with the only thing setting her apart from the rest of the little swines were those big titties. I did not call her back again because her face looked like a clenched fist.
[QUOTE=Bloomberg; 1204096]Completely agree with this one, just enjoy the experience!
I am sure that the girls are as amazed by our behaviour as we sometimes are about theirs.[/QUOTE]It wasnt what I was thinking at all but I suppose you could read it that way. She really didn't talk to me at all except for stuff about the video. My ym just happened to be on at the time. I should have ignored it I guess.
Nothing personal. Just that guys always post these conversations and sometimes I feel a little sorry for the girls.
This might be the biggest and best lie I have ever hearf from a filipina. Webcams are now illegel in Cebu / Talisay city. Rationale: Too many teens are going to internet cafes and showing themselves.
Can't believe that one.
I went out with one phil girl once who brought her sister along. Totally against going out with any girl who brings anyone with them. I think it's a bs situation and I would never agree to it ever again. Funny enough, her sister just happened to leave without paying. Total accident right? Guess who paid for it. Wasn't me. This wasn't even in the Phil, so I really didn't expect it.
I also think anyone who would give a girl money for anything other than sex is out of their minds. I'm not really desperate so I can't see it from that point of view, but you have to be stupid to do it.
That webcams lie is classic.
From I'm : "I know someone once posted about a website that allows one to send free text messages (SMS) to the Philippines, but for the life of me I can't find it."
I'm, I'm fairly sure they use a program called "Chikka-Chikka" for that, although I believe you can arrange it through Yahoo Messenger as well.
As Yahoo is free and Chikka-Chikka might not be, my money is on Yahoo.
[QUOTE=Slippery; 1204259]This might be the biggest and best lie I have ever hearf from a filipina. Webcams are now illegel in Cebu / Talisay city. Rationale: Too many teens are going to internet cafes and showing themselves.
Can't believe that one.[/QUOTE]Yes and No, it's partially true.
Webcams are not illegal in Cebu City and can be found in every internet cafe in the Philippines. From what I understand the ban is only on the use of private rooms or private booths equipped with webcams inside internet cafes. It seems likely the uncovering of cyber porn dens in Cordova has put the local officials on the hotseat to enforce the exisiting law.
Something was lost in translation from the woman you chatted with, but she is technically correct and not a liar. You have to take a step back and understand that for the most part English is the third language she learned and cut her some slack.
[QUOTE=David_33;1204240]Nothing personal. Just that guys always post these conversations and sometimes I feel a little sorry for the girls.[/QUOTE]Yeah I get where you are coming from. But for me its a totally new experience with Philippinas and I'm trying to get some feedback from guys that have had years of experience with them. We really have hardly any here in Japan and I didn't know any growing up.
Anyway, I hope its cool to post questions and observations here. Hatguy
[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1204312]p.
Anyway, I hope its cool to post questions and observations here. Hatguy[/QUOTE]It's cool to post questions and observations here mate and especially details of attempted scams but. .
I agree that it is not cool to make fun of the girls when it is clear that they don't really have much of a grasp of English.
Simple test. Ask yourself whether you would enjoy people laughing at you if you tried to write 4 or 5 lines in Tagalog.
I think some people need a bit more empathy here.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1204332]It's cool to post questions and observations here mate and especially details of attempted scams but. .
I agree that it is not cool to make fun of the girls when it is clear that they don't really have much of a grasp of English.
Simple test. Ask yourself whether you would enjoy people laughing at you if you tried to write 4 or 5 lines in Tagalog.
I think some people need a bit more empathy here.[/QUOTE]Understood. And I do take it on board that English is third language or not even that. Here in Japan one girl from Phi wouldn't even speak basic english and only spoke japanese with me. For me it's really weird because we are both not japanese. Anyway look guys I'm just trying to get a grasp of things with these girls. They are so amazing for me at times and I want to understand better. Hatguy
Last 6 mths I have been talking to a DIA cutie on ym. I have avoided her in my previous 4-5 trips here and played the txt game with her only because I thought she would suck in bed. We finally met on Saturday. After being late hour and a half this extremely cute creature entered my dungeon. Boy was I mad at her for wasting my time, so I let her have it. She hit back and had a point I only gave her an hour to get here and she is Antipolo plus she had to get dressed and since it's our first date she wanted to leave a good impression. All was forgiven in a second when she chose my lap to seat in rather than the sofa and had her lips on mine within few second to make up for wasting my time.
I don't remember my dick hurting from so much fucking ever. We fucked for about 10 hours straight before taking a nap to continue fucking. I finally left the Dusit around 6pm to check into another hotel where we continued fucking leaving only for quick lunch at greenbelt. I offered to go and watch a movie more so to get a rest from fucking but she didn't want a bar of it. This morning my LOL, I should say afternoon she left around 3pm and I just collapsed in bed for few hours. I think I drank over 20 litters of water over the last 2 days.
Before she left I tied to give her money (we are talking 1000p here) she refused. She paid her own way to get to me. Payed her own way to go home. Total damage less then 1000p for 1 lunch and ice cream.
I have few others to go thorough but I will have her back Tuesday / Wednesday. I want to do something nice for her but its hard because she is refusing gifts or money. I am thinking to take her with me on a day trip somewhere but the weather is shit here. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Logged onto DIA yesterday and saw this message waiting from a girl who had stumbled across my profile (never saw her before) :
GIRL: Hello. Can you help me? I need money. I got here in dateinasia to ask money and meet friends. If you don't want to help me. Its fine. Godbless. Thank you very much
Her profiles reads that she wants to meet for friendship, and says only this: Hello, I NEED MONEY PLEASE.
She has probably blasted hundreds of guys with this spam. Sad thing is that some guys probably will send her money and encourage a whole new generation to seek money for nothing. Can't blame them really, they are only doing what works, but guys, please do not send money to people who you have not at least met in person.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1204801]I have few others to go thorough but I will have her back Tuesday / Wednesday. I want to do something nice for her but its hard because she is refusing gifts or money. I am thinking to take her with me on a day trip somewhere but the weather is shit here. Does anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Tagaytay is nice, and you can get there in a couple hours driving from Manila:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagaytay[/url]
You would probably need to hire a driver for the day, but you can visit the People's Park in the Sky (an unfinished Marcos Mansion) and have dinner overlooking Taal Lake at sunset. Would be better in good weather, but still enjoyable in light rain.
Have been chatting with a woman early 40 but not to pretty but who.
Cares not looking for a wife but a good woman who like to do blowjob.
Promise to stay with me for the 3 nights and suck me until my dick drop dead.
What I am asking is this just a con or it could be possible peso up to me.
More importantly. What's her profile name?
[QUOTE=Mc Don; 1204801]Last 6 mths I have been talking to a DIA cutie on ym. I have avoided her in my previous 4-5 trips here and played the txt game with her only because I thought she would suck in bed. We finally met on Saturday. After being late hour and a half this extremely cute creature entered my dungeon. Boy was I mad at her for wasting my time, so I let her have it. She hit back and had a point I only gave her an hour to get here and she is Antipolo plus she had to get dressed and since it's our first date she wanted to leave a good impression. All was forgiven in a second when she chose my lap to seat in rather than the sofa and had her lips on mine within few second to make up for wasting my time.
I don't remember my dick hurting from so much fucking ever. We fucked for about 10 hours straight before taking a nap to continue fucking. I finally left the Dusit around 6pm to check into another hotel where we continued fucking leaving only for quick lunch at greenbelt. I offered to go and watch a movie more so to get a rest from fucking but she didn't want a bar of it. This morning my LOL, I should say afternoon she left around 3pm and I just collapsed in bed for few hours. I think I drank over 20 litters of water over the last 2 days.
Before she left I tied to give her money (we are talking 1000p here) she refused. She paid her own way to get to me. Payed her own way to go home. Total damage less then 1000p for 1 lunch and ice cream.
I have few others to go thorough but I will have her back Tuesday / Wednesday. I want to do something nice for her but its hard because she is refusing gifts or money. I am thinking to take her with me on a day trip somewhere but the weather is shit here. Does anyone have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
40? U can do better. If you do decide to go through with it ask her to bring her younger doughter, neigbour, neice or someone to help her out. Don't be shy you will be pleased with her answer. I don't think its a con, but they will ask for peso on the end or will expect you give. Point is you will spend peso regardless you might as well get a hottie.
[QUOTE=William Saw; 1204848]Have been chatting with a woman early 40 but not to pretty but who.
Cares not looking for a wife but a good woman who like to do blowjob.
Promise to stay with me for the 3 nights and suck me until my dick drop dead.
What I am asking is this just a con or it could be possible peso up to me.[/QUOTE]
I got chatting with a DIA girl, and I run her name through FB. She has almost 20 accounts. Why do you think that is?
Has anyone tried to hook up with girls in BKK using DIA?
If so, how does it compare with the Philippines?
I have read that normal Thai women do not like to be seen in public with Westerners, but I have a hard time wondering what all those Thai women are doing on DIA if they don't want to be seen with us. Are all of the Thai women on DIA (or at least the young ones) prostitutes or women looking to get men to send cash?
[QUOTE=Forest; 1205037]Has anyone tried to hook up with girls in BKK using DIA?
If so, how does it compare with the Philippines?
I have read that normal Thai women do not like to be seen in public with Westerners, but I have a hard time wondering what all those Thai women are doing on DIA if they don't want to be seen with us. Are all of the Thai women on DIA (or at least the young ones) prostitutes or women looking to get men to send cash?[/QUOTE]Where did you read that normal Thai women do not like to be seen in public with westerners? Maybe if there is a big age disparity (that spells hooker-trick) this could be true, but otherwise not. What many of them will have a problem with is going to your room because they don't want people to think they are hookers. Although I have met women on websites, living in Thailand it is much easier to cold approach women than wasting hours on a website and in instant messenger. But I can assure you that it is not as easy as DIA in PI. IMHO Thai women have much more book smarts as well as street smarts.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1205060]Where did you read that normal Thai women do not like to be seen in public with westerners? Maybe if there is a big age disparity (that spells hooker-trick) this could be true, but otherwise not. What many of them will have a problem with is going to your room because they don't want people to think they are hookers. Although I have met women on websites, living in Thailand it is much easier to cold approach women than wasting hours on a website and in instant messenger. But I can assure you that it is not as easy as DIA in PI. IMHO Thai women have much more book smarts as well as street smarts.[/QUOTE]Thanks. THat is a clear answer. I would guess my information came from this site, but I did not list all of the modifiers I should have. I am in my mid fifties, I like my women in their early 20s, so I suspect that dating a Thai woman in her early 20s might be difficult, especially if sex was an important reason for the hookup. As for meeting women in stores, restaurants, etc, I think this works everywhere in the world better than web sites (or at least anywhere where I monger). But, with the web, arrangements can be made ahead of time thus maximizing the use of one's time.
I would love to arrange something with a Thai woman for the week I will be there in June, but I wonder if I will just be wasting my time.
By the way, I tried to do a search for DIA in Thailand, but the new search engine is impossible for me to master! Its one thing to RTFF, but to do this right, I would probably have to devote several solid hours!
Hey D Cups!
I found this profile while trolling DIA today. I think she is one you would really like, just from the look of her. ;)
http://www.dateinasia.com/radaza+amor.html
Enjoy!
HW
[QUOTE=Forest; 1205037]Has anyone tried to hook up with girls in BKK using DIA?
If so, how does it compare with the Philippines?
I have read that normal Thai women do not like to be seen in public with Westerners, but I have a hard time wondering what all those Thai women are doing on DIA if they don't want to be seen with us. Are all of the Thai women on DIA (or at least the young ones) prostitutes or women looking to get men to send cash?[/QUOTE]I had my DIA date come all the way from Udon Thani to Bangkok to meet me for a weekend; And then she suggested to go to the weekend market in BKK; So it is definitely not true that they do not like to be seen with farang: Of course, you have to behave in public, so no no hugging or kissing or even holding hands on the street: But other than that, no problem:
[QUOTE=Forest;1205037]Has anyone tried to hook up with girls in BKK using DIA? If so, how does it compare with the Philippines??[/QUOTE]One radical difference is the age range that the girls are looking for. Check it out. In the Philippines a majority have no problem meeting older guys. Not true for LOS girls. Seems only the LBs have no problem meeting a 50 year old.
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1204924]I got chatting with a DIA girl, and I run her name through FB. She has almost 20 accounts. Why do you think that is?[/QUOTE]One for each sister.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1205037]Has anyone tried to hook up with girls in BKK using DIA?
If so, how does it compare with the Philippines?
I have read that normal Thai women do not like to be seen in public with Westerners, but I have a hard time wondering what all those Thai women are doing on DIA if they don't want to be seen with us. Are all of the Thai women on DIA (or at least the young ones) prostitutes or women looking to get men to send cash?[/QUOTE]I have met about 6 DIA ladies in BKK from DIA. All turned out to be extra nice freebies. Age ranged from 22 (I took her on a business trip to Singapore with me) to 40. Didn't seem to be difficult and no one had an issue being out in public with me. I think its how you play it. In Thailand if you come across as a superstud they label you as a butterfly straightaway and will have nothing to do with you. Try the nice approach. Works fine for me every time I have a BKK trip.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1205037]Has anyone tried to hook up with girls in BKK using DIA?
If so, how does it compare with the Philippines?
I have read that normal Thai women do not like to be seen in public with Westerners, but I have a hard time wondering what all those Thai women are doing on DIA if they don't want to be seen with us. Are all of the Thai women on DIA (or at least the young ones) prostitutes or women looking to get men to send cash?[/QUOTE]I used DIA on my first trip to Pattaya and I was successful. I meet about 3 different girls. I was able to "Pop" 2 of them and the other one just visited. 1 actually work in a Soapy and the other was a go go girl and worked in internet Cafe. They did not want anything from me and even tried to refuse taxi fare which I paid.
I was told by my friends in Thailand that I was not going to be able to score on any Thai girls as I do in the Philippines. It is much harder and selection is less but I have never had problems in any country.
I used DIA to hook up with a non-pro in BKK last year. She was working as a graphic designer (so she said). Anyway, I think she just wanted a good night out, so I paid for her drinks (not expensive in BKK) and I took her back to my hotel and rogered her silly. Afterwards, I gave her taxi fare because I didn't want her to stay.
[QUOTE=David_33;1205130]One radical difference is the age range that the girls are looking for. Check it out. In the Philippines a majority have no problem meeting older guys. Not true for LOS girls. Seems only the LBs have no problem meeting a 50 year old.[/QUOTE]Yah, young thai girls have no interest in older foreigners unless money is involved. 25yo+ girls are easier to bang for free in LOS.
[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1185347]Maybe someone can help me out. I thought DIA was a real site but from some of the postings I've seen it's basically sounding like a independant hookers site. Are all the girls on there going to negotiate a rate or are some going to act like a girlfriend? I didn't have girls in MBC talk about money so I'm surprised to hear it is so common on DIA. I met a guy who is getting married to a girl of DIA on the plane so it can't be all of them, but is it a huge majority? Anyone?[/QUOTE]I think the overwhelming majority of girls on DIA are looking for some sort of Long term relationship, ideally marriage but if not some sort of long term support. Of those probably most would accept some form of shorter term relationship if they believe they are going to get something out of it. Eg The hope that something might happen and the relationship does become long term, that they might earn some extra pocketmoney or get some gifts, that they may get a good time, be taken somewhere nice etc or where the gap between your attractiveness and her attractiveness is not too large the pleassure of being with you. Very few are on the site to be treated as a free hooker.
The difficulty comes because a the site's censors and be Filipino culture generally makes it pretty difficult for girls to be straightforward and up front about what they are looking for.
Relatively few, other than the more experienced and jaded girls will explicitly ask for money, however apart from the relatively few women who are well off through family or other support, or those intent on playing the long game (not taking money to convince you that they are a good girl who is good marriage material) , most will appreciate some sort of modest financial reward tactfully characterised, as something to get you home, for your kid, etc etc.
This topic does come up frequently and several guys usually pipe up to say that they never pay a cent. All I can say is that it's not my experience. It's possible that they are talking about "sub prime" women, or they are devilishly good looking / skilfull / amsuing or simply they insensitive to what the girl expects.
[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1205317]I think the overwhelming majority of girls on DIA are looking for some sort of Long term relationship, ideally marriage but if not some sort of long term support. Of those probably most would accept some form of shorter term relationship if they believe they are going to get something out of it. Eg The hope that something might happen and the relationship does become long term, that they might earn some extra pocketmoney or get some gifts, that they may get a good time, be taken somewhere nice etc or where the gap between your attractiveness and her attractiveness is not too large the pleassure of being with you. Very few are on the site to be treated as a free hooker.
The difficulty comes because a the site's censors and be Filipino culture generally makes it pretty difficult for girls to be straightforward and up front about what they are looking for.
Relatively few, other than the more experienced and jaded girls will explicitly ask for money, however apart from the relatively few women who are well off through family or other support, or those intent on playing the long game (not taking money to convince you that they are a good girl who is good marriage material) , most will appreciate some sort of modest financial reward tactfully characterised, as something to get you home, for your kid, etc etc.
This topic does come up frequently and several guys usually pipe up to say that they never pay a cent. All I can say is that it's not my experience. It's possible that they are talking about "sub prime" women, or they are devilishly good looking / skilfull / amsuing or simply they insensitive to what the girl expects.[/QUOTE]After meeting over 20 girls now from various dating sites including Tagged and Facebook, I also found that most of them are looking for a long-term relationship. A foreigner is considered to be rich but some girls also mentioned that they consider foreigners to be more faithful to them. According to these girls, for a Filipino man it is socially acceptable to cheat, I don't know if this is really true but that is their story. Once you make it clear to a girl that you are not interested in something for the long-term, most of them are also willing to have something short-term with you as long as something is in it for them. This can be a nice meal, some tuition money, some pocket money, a small present, some attention, a pair of shoes, a new T-shirt, load for the mobile phone, etc. I even met one girl so far who just wanted to have sex with a foreigner because a friend of her had done the same and she wanted to have some nice story to tell as well.
It is important however not to forget that having sex with a girl like this and paying something for it one way or another does not mean the girl is a prostitute. One girl created a scene in my room because I wanted to use a condom and she didn't like that because condoms are only used with prostitutes? She was not a prostitute so why should we use one, when I insisted she started shouting why I was thinking that she was a prostitute. Guess why the population here is booming.
One other thing that strikes me is that the younger girls 18-20 are easier to get and more fun to be with compared to older girls. 25 is the max for me by the way. Maybe the older ones just have had more bad experiences, any thoughts on this?
[QUOTE=Bloomberg;1205420]One other thing that strikes me is that the younger girls 18-20 are easier to get and more fun to be with compared to older girls. 25 is the max for me by the way. Maybe the older ones just have had more bad experiences, any thoughts on this?[/QUOTE]Don't set rules for yourself Bloomer.
Use these ages as a general guide but that's all. As the girls all say,"age is just a number".
I have had some sensational times with 40 yos and some dreadful times with 18 to 25 yos, and vice versa.
No rules. Pot luck.
[QUOTE=Bloomberg;1205420]. According to these girls, for a Filipino man it is socially acceptable to cheat, I don't know if this is really true but that is their story. ?[/QUOTE]Not just the men. Was having a fun chat yesterday with a girl who will be a future conquest (well she did say she will dance for me in her bra and panties so I'm fairly 101% sure I'm she will be a new conquest LOL) anyways she was telling me about her past boyfriend.
She said,"we dated for 6 months and I stayed honest to him all the time, I never played at, all even thought I wanted to ". It made me smile.
The DIAwomen that I have met up with have all been regular women, none looking for, or even expecting money.
All have been well experienced, a couple with kids.
All in the 25 to 33 year range.
I paid for taxis, and whatever it is that we do. Eat, drink etc.
I think that all of them just wanted someone to treat them with respect and make sure that they had a good sexual experience.
G
[QUOTE=Bloomberg;1205420]According to these girls, for a Filipino man it is socially acceptable to cheat, I don't know if this is really true but that is their story. Once you make it clear to a girl that you are not interested in something for the long-term, most of them are also willing to have something short-term with you as long as something is in it for them.[/QUOTE]FreebieFan: "Not just the men. Was having a fun chat yesterday with a girl who will be a future conquest (well she did say she will dance for me in her bra and panties so I'm fairly 101% sure I'm she will be a new conquest LOL) anyways she was telling me about her past boyfriend."
FF is so correct. Young pinoy run around on their gf, causing plenty of pregnancies and broken hearts. At the same time, many pinay, knowing / fearing this, will do the same thing. They do it quietly (therefore, maybe not socially acceptable, or as the pinay say: Secret!). Have had oodles of pinay in my bed who had a solid bf or husband. Much lower incidence of this outside phils. Always amazed by this. Have heard lots of excuses why she's there with me, when she could be at home with her bf / family / husband:
* You good f*cker to me. My bf not so good the sax.
* I need some help ($).
* My dream to f*ck foreigner. You have a blue eyes. Never I meet other foreigner. This dream to me. Never been hotel before.
* My hasband no like to facking me no more.
Had a wonderful encounter with a 20-year old girl. Met her online on one of the dating sites already two months ago. Finally after chatting about nothing for a while we met after she told me that she trusts me and only wants to meet because she wants to have hard sex. Well who am I to deny that to her.
She told me that there is some foreign boyfriend who visits once in a while. But he is only sweet to her and she claims that his way does not satisfy her. For the long-term she wants to stay with him because he has promised to marry her.
After our second meeting she asked me if I would take her if her boyfriend broke up with her. I asked her why she didn't break up with him. She told me because if she would end up alone or poor she would never forgive herself for letting a "rich" western guy go. One thing I learned from this is to watch out not to become someone safety cushion.
[QUOTE=Bloomberg; 1205981]Had a wonderful encounter with a 20-year old girl. Met her online on one of the dating sites already two months ago. Finally after chatting about nothing for a while we met after she told me that she trusts me and only wants to meet because she wants to have hard sex. Well who am I to deny that to her.
She told me that there is some foreign boyfriend who visits once in a while. But he is only sweet to her and she claims that his way does not satisfy her. For the long-term she wants to stay with him because he has promised to marry her.
After our second meeting she asked me if I would take her if her boyfriend broke up with her. I asked her why she didn't break up with him. She told me because if she would end up alone or poor she would never forgive herself for letting a "rich" western guy go. One thing I learned from this is to watch out not to become someone safety cushion.[/QUOTE]I use the term 'opportunistic' when describing pinay. Many pinay have described the above situation to me: having one main bf ($, or love) , but also "fall-back" boyfriend, or as we call it here: "Plan B". One girl, whom I'd met and banged, actually told me this in YM chat, saying I was originally her go-to guy, and she had another guy in Ohio who was nice to her, but she liked me better. After time, I didn't show intent to marry her (true) , and the Ohio guy had mentioned he wanted to get married some day. So she was informing me of Ohio guy in that chat, and of her desire to marry him, and would I agree right then to marry her? Your first thought is she is bluffing, there is no Ohio-guy. But there really was the other guy. When I said no thanks to the marriage thing, she informed me that she still liked me better than Ohio-guy, and would be glad to be my gf whenever I visited Cebu, but only until Ohio-guy married her. Many girls there are like the one you described.
Op·por·tun·is·tic.
&8194; &8194; [op-er-too-nis-tik. Tyoo-] Show IPA.
Adjective.
1.
Adhering to a policy of opportunism; practicing opportunism.
Had two Dia new chatmates lined up. First thing is get the sex edge taken off by regular fuckbunny in Manila. She knows my exploits and is ok with it.
Initially planned to fly the Butuan girl to Manila and stay with her for a week. When trying to decide a Ormoc chatmate wanted to meet me too. So I thought better to go to cebu.
Booked a ticket for butuan girl to come to cebu and spend 5 nights with me. I told her if things are not working out she can go back early. I timed it right and flew into cebu and she was waiting at theairport. Her flight came in around the same time. She was all friendly and lovey dovey during the trip to the hotel. I will post a report on the nice hotel I stayed in the Cebu thread.
In the room she immediately started complaing about being tired and hungry. Ordered some food and after that let her take a nap. Soon got cuddly with her and sex was just ok. She told me she does not like sex much. Anyway I got two more pops at night. In the morning she complained of stomach ache and refused all sex. She started talking about how poor her family is and she is the eldest in her family and it is her responsibility to support her family etc. I told her to find a job. Anyway next four days with her was not good. She got the mens and complained the whole time. She refused to go anywhere out even though it was her first trip to anywhere. I think she was looking for a sponsor only. After this I immediately contacted Ormoc girl to come and meet me the day the first one left.
This ormoc girl is really pretty with nice young body 21 years old. She made me very happy. She is super horny and very affectionate and a keeper. In fact I extended my stay here in cebu. While chatting I thought the Butuan girl will make me more happy but turned out it is vice versa.
So it is hard to say who clicks and who does not.
Ok this is for all Manila based guys.
Had a chat today with a 20 year girl from Taguig. I started chatting with her only yesterday, and today she chirps up, with a " Hi Hello,". Then she says she's sad. So I lamely ask why. Its her kids 4th birthday, father of course is no where to be seen, and will I buy her kid a gift.
I basically told her to get lost with her sorry begging.
BUT for a guy who wants to be a hero, it could be the day to buy said girls kid some plastic crap and get a lay in exchange. You can find her in YM on ljbente4. Must be worth a try for someone.
Interesting post, but what does opportunism mean?
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1206044]I use the term 'opportunistic' when describing pinay. Many pinay have described the above situation to me: having one main bf ($, or love) , but also "fall-back" boyfriend, or as we call it here: "Plan B". One girl, whom I'd met and banged, actually told me this in YM chat, saying I was originally her go-to guy, and she had another guy in Ohio who was nice to her, but she liked me better. After time, I didn't show intent to marry her (true) , and the Ohio guy had mentioned he wanted to get married some day. So she was informing me of Ohio guy in that chat, and of her desire to marry him, and would I agree right then to marry her? Your first thought is she is bluffing, there is no Ohio-guy. But there really was the other guy. When I said no thanks to the marriage thing, she informed me that she still liked me better than Ohio-guy, and would be glad to be my gf whenever I visited Cebu, but only until Ohio-guy married her. Many girls there are like the one you described.
Op·por·tun·is·tic.
&8194; &8194; [op-er-too-nis-tik. Tyoo-] Show IPA.
Adjective.
1.
Adhering to a policy of opportunism; practicing opportunism.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1206189]. .
Booked a ticket for butuan girl to come to cebu and spend 5 nights with me. I told her if things are not working out she can go back early. I timed it right and flew into cebu and she was waiting at theairport. Her flight came in around the same time. She was all friendly and lovey dovey during the trip to the hotel. I will post a report on the nice hotel I stayed in the Cebu thread.
In the room she immediately started complaing about being tired and hungry. Ordered some food and after that let her take a nap. Soon got cuddly with her and sex was just ok. She told me she does not like sex much. Anyway I got two more pops at night. In the morning she complained of stomach ache and refused all sex. She started talking about how poor her family is and she is the eldest in her family and it is her responsibility to support her family etc. I told her to find a job. Anyway next four days with her was not good. She got the mens and complained the whole time. She refused to go anywhere out even though it was her first trip to anywhere. I think she was looking for a sponsor only. After this I immediately contacted Ormoc girl to come and meet me the day the first one left. .[/QUOTE]Sammon your post is a vindication for my opinion and that of many others who caution against flying unknown girls in from outside places to spend time with you.
In effect you "wasted" 4 days with her when you expected a great time.
At least the Ormoc girl saved you.
I know some guys have struck it rich but for me it is just not worth the risk.
To fly a girl into Cebu is like bringing sand to the beach but if it works out then hindsight is king.
A good reminder though to those who are contemplating such an activity.
Ok so we know as guys were always checking girls out, always scoping the scenery, always looking at T&A and mentally undressing girls.
As I mentioned here a few weeks back I'm working on a girl fro my next Manila trip who has stated 100 times she hasnt seen or been with a guy for 6 years since she gave birth.
Yesterday met online a lady who says she's ready and available but in her case says it only 5 years. Lives in Cavite runs her own business, has free time but the only guys she chatted with are jerks. But she's ready to give it up in a moment for the right guy.
Today I'm chatting with an ex lover. She and I met in 2002/2003. Cute, small and before making love she would undress me and massage me, even gave my feet a foot spa once. Really the kind of lady who treats her man like a King. Well our last sesaion was in mid 2003. So today I sak her if she had dates for the weekend. She says she hasnt had dates in a long time. I ask how long. She says last man she kissed was me. In mid 2003. Thats 8 years ago! Damn if I go 8 days I'm already climbing the walls and watching porn!
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1205716]The DIAwomen that I have met up with have all been regular women, none looking for, or even expecting money.
All have been well experienced, a couple with kids.
All in the 25 to 33 year range.
I paid for taxis, and whatever it is that we do. Eat, drink etc.
I think that all of them just wanted someone to treat them with respect and make sure that they had a good sexual experience.
G[/QUOTE]Your report is right on the money. Let me add my 2 cents.
I have lived in Cebu over 5 years and have dated on DIA more times than you can shake a stick at. Most of the woman I have encountered are looking for somebody they can have a little fun with, talk to and can have sex with without the whole Barangy finding out she is boning somebody.
Most of the times when I offer even a small amount they get offended as they feel you are playing them cheap. They say I have fare. As I am a avid Jeep rider most of the girls are too.
They tell me they can appreciate some good conversation and if we would just listen and talk you will hear the stress about them working 12 hours a day since 16 to only send their money back home to support their family. They can't talk to their family about it and they can't talked to friends because it is a Taboo because of the " Culture here". So when they get a chance to have a decent nights sleep in a decent place with no noise, get a decent meal and just feel appreciated then they do not want your money just your time.
Now there are a few wolf in Sheep's clothing who will play good innocent and virgin and try to sleep with you and then try everything in the world to extort money from you but I have not encountered that.
There is one girl that is a member because she was recommended by a member of this forum for her REAL Estate that actually stole money from me 2x. I set her up the 2nd time to be sure. This is another issue because I am tempted to write the whole story here on DIA as a Monger's code of ethic's we should not be sharing stories we here on ISG and sharing them with others and when others are warned in private they should not refer the person anymore if it's proven she is a thief. Funny because I gave her money or let her do odd jobs to make money without sleeping with her.
[QUOTE=Andre007; 1206385]Your report is right on the money. Let me add my 2 cents.
I have lived in Cebu over 5 years and have dated on DIA more times than you can shake a stick at. Most of the woman I have encountered are looking for somebody they can have a little fun with, talk to and can have sex with without the whole Barangy finding out she is boning somebody.
Most of the times when I offer even a small amount they get offended as they feel you are playing them cheap. They say I have fare. As I am a avid Jeep rider most of the girls are too.
They tell me they can appreciate some good conversation and if we would just listen and talk you will hear the stress about them working 12 hours a day since 16 to only send their money back home to support their family. They can't talk to their family about it and they can't talked to friends because it is a Taboo because of the " Culture here". So when they get a chance to have a decent nights sleep in a decent place with no noise, get a decent meal and just feel appreciated then they do not want your money just your time.
Now there are a few wolf in Sheep's clothing who will play good innocent and virgin and try to sleep with you and then try everything in the world to extort money from you but I have not encountered that.
There is one girl that is a member because she was recommended by a member of this forum for her REAL Estate that actually stole money from me 2x. I set her up the 2nd time to be sure. This is another issue because I am tempted to write the whole story here on DIA as a Monger's code of ethic's we should not be sharing stories we here on ISG and sharing them with others and when others are warned in private they should not refer the person anymore if it's proven she is a thief. Funny because I gave her money or let her do odd jobs to make money without sleeping with her.[/QUOTE]Great report. Tell more Andre007.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1206044]I use the term 'opportunistic' when describing pinay. Many pinay have described the above situation to me: having one main bf ($, or love) , but also "fall-back" boyfriend, or as we call it here: "Plan B". One girl, whom I'd met and banged, actually told me this in YM chat, saying I was originally her go-to guy, and she had another guy in Ohio who was nice to her, but she liked me better. After time, I didn't show intent to marry her (true) , and the Ohio guy had mentioned he wanted to get married some day. So she was informing me of Ohio guy in that chat, and of her desire to marry him, and would I agree right then to marry her? Your first thought is she is bluffing, there is no Ohio-guy. But there really was the other guy. When I said no thanks to the marriage thing, she informed me that she still liked me better than Ohio-guy, and would be glad to be my gf whenever I visited Cebu, but only until Ohio-guy married her. Many girls there are like the one you described.
Most of the pinays on DIA are hard to carry an intelligent conversation with. The ones who can are often westernized types. I ran into one who as proficient in English, her American husband had died and she returned to Manila, probably because she could not continue to afford the high prices in her US city.
She has American citizenship but is living outside Manila. We started talking and I realized that she is Americanized and kind cheap. She has money but wants to keep it. She offers me a place to stay in her new house, but no air cond, although she has one in her room. But she wants me to pay utils and food.
Well I would have done that anyways but her asking tells me she is cheap, because I would have only been there a week ro two at most.
Then after promising me this and talking about and making me think she is thinking of me as a possible partner, she suddenly tells me that she had retired doctor US friend who is coming in Jan to meet her and they will return to US to visit her grandkids together. You think should could have mentioned this guy before I wasted alot of time chatting with her?
This shows how living in the USA ruins any pinay. They will become just like American C*ts. Stupid of me to even talk to her once I found out she had lived for several years in the USA.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1206266]. So today I sak her if she had dates for the weekend. She says she hasnt had dates in a long time. I ask how long. She says last man she kissed was me. .[/QUOTE]That's remarkable FF.
Just yesterday I was chatting to one of my friends from Cebu that I met in February this year who was asking if I can come down soon and see her again.
When I enquired about her love life she gave me EXACTLY the same story that you got. Verbatim."Last guy I kissed was you". Exact words.
Now it is only since February but this woman is hot and very gregarious and likes sex a lot. There is NO WAY she could possibly be truthful, and I thought how silly of her to expect me to believe it.
My reply to her?"Same for me honey. I have been too busy. You are the last woman I have been with too".
Her response?"Talaga. That's great baby. So we will be really horny for each other when we next meet".
What a laugh. What games we play? How we humor one another with BS?
[QUOTE=D Cups;1205310]WOW, HW, thanks a lot! I sent her a message and hope to get a reply! As luck would have, I'll be in Makata early next month and hope to meet her! Thank you, very, very much. If you're in town, let me know. The San Mig is on me![/QUOTE]Wish I could be there to enjoy that San Mig with you D Cups. Unfortunately, I have not been able to get back to Phils since 2009. I live vicariously through the stories that you and other mongers post on here, hoping that I will be able to go there again sometime soon. I hoped to go last year, but an unexpected move put me in debt so bad I could barely keep my head above weather. And this year was not much better. I'm trying to get a job back in Asia again, so I can get around to all the fun spots more often, and with less expense. I'm determined to make it back there again as soon as possible.
I hope you hook up with the DIA cutie I sent you. Please make sure to post about your experience with her.
Enjoy!
HW
Hi,
I found this forum as very live and with lot of helpful persons, that's why posting here,
I met few dia dh at Hong kong who is willing to do BBBJ and DATY, , I like to know the risk involved in doing bbj and DATY, what are the possible disestablishment that can be caught!
FS will be covered, the dia girls seems to be semi pro, doing it on their off days during day time only, hope to get yr expert opinion on this.
TMT
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1206502]
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1206044]This shows how living in the USA ruins any pinay. They will become just like American C*ts. Stupid of me to even talk to her once I found out she had lived for several years in the USA.[/QUOTE]Yup. Go to Phils and visit your girls. Never, ever import.
I regard myself as pretty conservative compared to many on this board but would regard oral sex with a semi pro Phil as very low risk. Assuming you check for obvious symptoms. If you are using a condom with FS herpes and genital worts are probably the main risks for any uncovered parts.
[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1206715]Hi,
I found this forum as very live and with lot of helpful persons, that's why posting here,
I met few dia dh at Hong kong who is willing to do BBBJ and DATY, , I like to know the risk involved in doing bbj and DATY, what are the possible disestablishment that can be caught!
FS will be covered, the dia girls seems to be semi pro, doing it on their off days during day time only, hope to get yr expert opinion on this.
TMT[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Driveallnight; 1206781]
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1206502]Yup. Go to Phils and visit your girls. Never, ever import.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I take the advice of my Australian friend who don't me, "Don't ever take a Filipina home. Keep 'em in the Philippines where they belong."
I have seen it happen too many times here locally. An older guy marries a much younger, very hot Filipina and brings her to the US. The dumb a*es who can't be bothered to get up off the couch and go to the Philippines, which they dismiss as a stupid idea, now have a young Filipina brought to their doorstep.
Here in my part of the US there is a clique of young, hot Filipinas who have left their older husbands and cruise the bars together.
Bringing a Filipina to your home country is like paying her to screw another man. Just hope you don't lose your house in the process.
[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1206715]Hi,
I found this forum as very live and with lot of helpful persons, that's why posting here,
I met few dia dh at Hong kong who is willing to do BBBJ and DATY, , I like to know the risk involved in doing bbj and DATY, what are the possible disestablishment that can be caught!
FS will be covered, the dia girls seems to be semi pro, doing it on their off days during day time only, hope to get yr expert opinion on this.
TMT[/QUOTE]TMT do you realise that there is a Hong Kong board too.
Maybe you should have a look there. Lots of information about maids on days off; hookers who visit for 2 weeks, and which daytime bars to visit.
Thanks, but have a look at my postings and read it before answering it!
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1206856]TMT do you realise that there is a Hong Kong board too.
Maybe you should have a look there. Lots of information about maids on days off; hookers who visit for 2 weeks, and which daytime bars to visit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Topmanten;1206899]Thanks, but have a look at my postings and read it before answering it![/QUOTE]Hmmmm well I can only repeat my question.
Why are you asking about the risks of sex in HK on the Philippines board? And whatever do you mean by ". What are the possible disestablishment that can be caught"
I guess English is not your first language so I will not argue with you, but I suppose you mean "possible diseases" that can be caught.
Much better to ask HK mongers these questions. Don't assume Philippines board readers know much about HK. Some will but most will not.
Yes, I have American friends who say the same. Women from poor countries like PI who marry middle-class American men quickly spoil upon arrival and lose their original charm, simplicity and flavor. American women taint them into becoming biotches who take everything you worked hard for your whole life so you have nothing left. If I marry a Filipina we will never live in the USA Guaranteed.
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1206802]
[QUOTE=Driveallnight; 1206781]Agreed. I take the advice of my Australian friend who don't me,"Don't ever take a Filipina home. Keep 'them in the Philippines where they belong."
I have seen it happen too many times here locally. An older guy marries a much younger, very hot Filipina and brings her to the US. The dumb a*es who can't be bothered to get up off the couch and go to the Philippines, which they dismiss as a stupid idea, now have a young Filipina brought to their doorstep.
Here in my part of the US there is a clique of young, hot Filipinas who have left their older husbands and cruise the bars together.
Bringing a Filipina to your home country is like paying her to screw another man. Just hope you don't lose your house in the process.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1206802]
[QUOTE=Driveallnight; 1206781]Agreed. I take the advice of my Australian friend who don't me,"Don't ever take a Filipina home. Keep 'them in the Philippines where they belong."
I have seen it happen too many times here locally. An older guy marries a much younger, very hot Filipina and brings her to the US. The dumb a*es who can't be bothered to get up off the couch and go to the Philippines, which they dismiss as a stupid idea, now have a young Filipina brought to their doorstep.
Here in my part of the US there is a clique of young, hot Filipinas who have left their older husbands and cruise the bars together.
Bringing a Filipina to your home country is like paying her to screw another man. Just hope you don't lose your house in the process.[/QUOTE]And how do all these local guys get around the requirement of having to meet their prospective brides in person? Or do they get here on something other than a k1 visa?
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1206802]
[QUOTE=Driveallnight; 1206781]Agreed. I take the advice of my Australian friend who don't me,"Don't ever take a Filipina home. Keep 'them in the Philippines where they belong."
I have seen it happen too many times here locally. An older guy marries a much younger, very hot Filipina and brings her to the US. The dumb a*es who can't be bothered to get up off the couch and go to the Philippines, which they dismiss as a stupid idea, now have a young Filipina brought to their doorstep.
Here in my part of the US there is a clique of young, hot Filipinas who have left their older husbands and cruise the bars together.
Bringing a Filipina to your home country is like paying her to screw another man. Just hope you don't lose your house in the process.[/QUOTE]We have an Air Force base here with alot of bars surrounding it. One night I went to one of the honkey tonk joints and who do I find but a cackle of (is that the proper term?) of Flips out on their American husbands, or ex-husbands. When I said to one, you're ruining my good impression of Filipinas she pipes back: "You need to find one that just got here off the boat". Hahahahhahaha, least she has gained some candor over her phoney friends on DIA. They even joke about this among themselves. Besides being a walking ATM, American is seen as a ticket to the USA and maybe even get his house in the process. Buncha F*kin scammers and opportunists. Also they often then bring their families over here once they have gained a foothold, kinda like cockr*es moving in, . There are some good ones though.
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[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1206802]And how do all these local guys get around the requirement of having to meet their prospective brides in person? Or do they get here on something other than a k1 visa?[/QUOTE]That was the missing link in the story.
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[QUOTE=Blackangst; 1207096]That was the missing link in the story.[/QUOTE]Pretty important missing link, no?
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[QUOTE=Slippery; 1207283]Pretty important missing link, no?[/QUOTE]Very important
Over the past week in prep for my arrival into Cebu I have been amazed at the masses of females available on the dating websites. I have been using Tagged.
I have a shortlist now of three ladies. One of which has been comfortable being naked on webcam with me, she isn't such a concern and I'll prefer to keep her for the overnighters. It is now a case of working the list for daytime fun as soon as I arrive.
When dating in Oz, I search for women in the 40. 50 years categories. I only have success with P4P younger ladies! When I started searching in Philippines I lowered this to 30-40, that was nice, then I went 20-30, that was nicer and then 20-25. Nice talent and age no problems.
Then I thought I may as well go to 18-21 and see what happens. Again still no age barriers. Interestingly, it was in this group where I met my first scammer ie wanting bus money before the meeting, when I refused they didn't chat any more.
I did read in this forum about checking the contacts through Facebook as well. Pretty interesting reading. Gives a much better feel for the lady.
The reason for this post is just a reminder. When I have headed into the 18-21 year age bracket I did find that a number of them were under 18 but they described themselves as 'turning 20 soon' etc.
While I don't expect others would be as gullible as me, please do be careful and please do not engage with anyone under 18. In fact, encourage them off the site as it can only lead to trouble for all.
Interestingly, and as a reminder, Aust laws still provider for prosecution back home even for activities carried out overseas.
Happy punting.
Aussie Jo.
My two cents worth.
[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1207485]Over the past week in prep for my arrival into Cebu I have been amazed at the masses of females available on the dating websites. I have been using Tagged.
I have a shortlist now of three ladies. One of which has been comfortable being naked on webcam with me, she isn't such a concern and I'll prefer to keep her for the overnighters. It is now a case of working the list for daytime fun as soon as I arrive.
The reason for this post is just a reminder. When I have headed into the 18-21 year age bracket I did find that a number of them were under 18 but they described themselves as 'turning 20 soon' etc.[/QUOTE]In preparation for my 7th trip this year I have also been doing the hunt. I have a large stable of repeat possibles and like to mix up great repeaters with new ones for the sake of variety. I also like a little age variety.
So will have two on day one, one 18 and one 26. Both are new. The 18 year old is quite mature for her years. She asked me today " will we meet or will we fuck ", I replied probably both. She replied "thats fine I jsut wanted to prepare myself.". Nice chat.
The 26 year old is working in a high end restaurant in Fort Bonifacio.
Next day will be a new one from Antipolo. She's 27. Then in evening will be a 22 year old super hot repeat girl. She has promised to arrive wearing no panties as long as I bring her a dildo as birthday gift (well that beats the old Nokia request anyway).
Next day will be a super lovely repeat. 24 from Makati. She's the best kisser I ever met. Then will be one from my "new spares " list and finaly before my flgiht will be a 33 year old teacher, hoorny as heck. She knows she's last on my "list" but still says she wants to see me.
Should be a normal sort of weekend for Freebie in Manila.
[QUOTE=D Cups; 1207005]Yes, I have American friends who say the same. Women from poor countries like PI who marry middle-class American men quickly spoil upon arrival and lose their original charm, simplicity and flavor. American women taint them into becoming biotches who take everything you worked hard for your whole life so you have nothing left. If I marry a Filipina we will never live in the USA Guaranteed.
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1206802][/QUOTE]Your comment reminds me of the movie "Blind Date" with Bruce Willis and Kim Basinger. In that movie, there's a rich Japanese man with his very obedient and subservient Japanese wife. Kim Basinger pulls the Japanese wife aside and explains to her California's community property law as it relates to divorce. When the Japanese wife realizes that she'll get 1/2 her husband's assets in a divorce, she turns into a raging b**ch.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1207005]Yes, I have American friends who say the same. Women from poor countries like PI who marry middle-class American men quickly spoil upon arrival and lose their original charm, simplicity and flavor. American women taint them into becoming biotches who take everything you worked hard for your whole life so you have nothing left. If I marry a Filipina we will never live in the USA Guaranteed.[/QUOTE]If you're that distrustful and cynical, why get married in the first place?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1207552]In preparation for my 7th trip this year I have also been doing the hunt. I have a large stable of repeat possibles and like to mix up great repeaters with new ones for the sake of variety. I also like a little age variety.
So will have two on day one, one 18 and one 26. Both are new. The 18 year old is quite mature for her years. She asked me today " will we meet or will we fuck ", I replied probably both. She replied "thats fine I jsut wanted to prepare myself.". Nice chat.
The 26 year old is working in a high end restaurant in Fort Bonifacio.
Next day will be a new one from Antipolo. She's 27. Then in evening will be a 22 year old super hot repeat girl. She has promised to arrive wearing no panties as long as I bring her a dildo as birthday gift (well that beats the old Nokia request anyway).
Next day will be a super lovely repeat. 24 from Makati. She's the best kisser I ever met. Then will be one from my "new spares " list and finaly before my flgiht will be a 33 year old teacher, hoorny as heck. She knows she's last on my "list" but still says she wants to see me.
Should be a normal sort of weekend for Freebie in Manila.[/QUOTE]I'm sure I shouldn't be quoting my own reports but been chatting with a lady who works as housekeeper in EastRembo (old Makati ). She doesn't get days off, but on sundays she does get a few hours off. Problem she says is she has no where for her 6 year old daughter to stay unless she comes with us. Ms Maid stated that we could meet in a hotel, we could play in bathroom and her kid could stay in the bedroom watching tv. Freebie loves to get himself into strange situations. I don't think I will go for this as its weird. But everything is possible in the Philippines.
Good question, FF. See Yurji's response.
Still, if you keep her in her environment they will not get tainted / Americanized. But then you have to deal with a bunch of moocher relatives. It is a tough decision. Are you married, FF? If so, what do get out of it?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1207599]If you're that distrustful and cynical, why get married in the first place?[/QUOTE]
I just had a pretty long conversation on YM with a self confessed bar girl from a Manila club (she admitted to being a bar girl later). We exchanged numbers then said bye because we both had work. Just a few minutes ago she actually called me on my Japan mobile phone. I didn't know who it was to start with. Then I get the you-don't-remember-me thing. Must say I was quite surprised that she would call me but I guess you learn something new every day.
Quite happy she did as Ill try to see her sometime if I can make it to Phi.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1207932]Ill try to see her sometime if I can make it to Phi.[/QUOTE]Why are you on these threads, the dating sites and YMing Filipinas, if you don't even have plans to go to the Philippines?
Freebie should go for it. Just find a hotel with a nice bathroom. Sex is better spiced up when out of your comfort zone. LOL you may even work out you actually like it.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1207611]I'm sure I shouldn't be quoting my own reports but been chatting with a lady who works as housekeeper in EastRembo (old Makati ). She doesn't get days off, but on sundays she does get a few hours off. Problem she says is she has no where for her 6 year old daughter to stay unless she comes with us. Ms Maid stated that we could meet in a hotel, we could play in bathroom and her kid could stay in the bedroom watching tv. Freebie loves to get himself into strange situations. I don't think I will go for this as its weird. But everything is possible in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]
Friends with benefits and My neighbours wife (tagalog) are movies that were showing last week (the may still be showing) in fils cinema. The first title is self explanatory while the second is about the taboo of having an affair in fils. I saw both movies with DIA dates. I also discussed the movies with few other girls I saw during the trip. Both movies are extremely popular and for the first time I am hearing the terms friends with benefits in phils. I now have 2 LOL. No money just great sex. One even came up with the idea that this is better than being kabit (lover / adulterer) as this does not require loving the partner LOL. I love the popcorn coca cola culture of this country just point the in the right direction make it sound as if its normal natural and exciting and off you go. Easy easy easy kill for anyone struggling to come up with activities for a date there you go.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1207611]I'm sure I shouldn't be quoting my own reports but been chatting with a lady who works as housekeeper in EastRembo (old Makati ). She doesn't get days off, but on sundays she does get a few hours off. Problem she says is she has no where for her 6 year old daughter to stay unless she comes with us. Ms Maid stated that we could meet in a hotel, we could play in bathroom and her kid could stay in the bedroom watching tv. Freebie loves to get himself into strange situations. I don't think I will go for this as its weird. But everything is possible in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]A few years ago a 19 year-old cebuana hottie showed up for the meet-and-bang in Robinson's fuente with an infant in her arms. 3-4 months old. Tall and thin, she did not mention being a mother in chat, and didn't look like she had birthed recently, tummy was pancake-flat. Such a beauty, but when she said that she was fine bringing the baby back to the hotel for the afternoon's fun (she had nobody to watch him) , I got gooey inside, and declined the deal."Just he sleeping in the floor. He fine." Probably it would have gone fine, but I just couldn't do it. Then.
[QUOTE=David_33;1207943]Why are you on these threads, the dating sites and YMing Filipinas, if you don't even have plans to go to the Philippines?[/QUOTE]Look mate I love philippina girls and plan to visit soon. Thats why. All due respect. No other intentions.
General consensus is that its a waste of time and counterproductive to start the dating site chatting frenzy more than a month before a planned trip. But its your spare time, spend it as you wish. You will find that if you encounter a worthwhile girl, she will not be satisfied with an endless chat relationship and promised trips that never materialize. This trip I started the process a day before arriving in Cebu.
So I arrange to meet a DIA gal today at 12 noon.
She seemed quite smart and worldly-wise, was looking forward to meeting a new foreigner, and the time and place was established by her. The place to meet was quite close to her home.
Here is the sequence of events as per text:
11. 30 am: ME: I am on the way now. See you at 12.
11. 35: HER: Me too. See you soon.
12. 05pm: ME: Where are you now?
12. 06 : HER: Sorry honey. So traffic. Maybe another 15 mins.
12. 25: ME: Calls her."Where are you?". HER: "So sorry, so much traffic.
12. 40: ME: I have waited for 40 mins and you are not here. I am going now. I cannot wait any longer.
I leave.
12. 45: HER: I am not far away now. Please wait 10 mins OK?
12. 46: ME: Nope. I am going back to my office now.
1. 15: HER: I am almost there. I am looking forward to meeting you.
1. 50: HER: I am here now but I cannot see you. Were you serious when you said you were leaving?
1. 51: ME: Do you really expect me to stay around waiting for 1 hour and 50 mins for you? I am back in my office now.
1. 55: HER: Why are you foriners so important for time (her words)
There was no further exchange. Those of you planning a trip to meet a filipina here who have never done so before. Be warned.
The above is a true account of what happened today.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1208057]There was no further exchange. Those of you planning a trip to meet a filipina here who have never done so before. Be warned.
The above is a true account of what happened today.[/QUOTE]This is why I often double book. The first one crossing the finish line gets the sausage.
[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1208070]The first one crossing the finish line gets the sausage.[/QUOTE]Nice. Talk about "passing the baton."
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1208057]So I arrange to meet a DIA gal today at 12 noon.
She seemed quite smart and worldly-wise, was looking forward to meeting a new foreigner, and the time and place was established by her. The place to meet was quite close to her home.
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Then it started wrong already: you let her choose the time and place. Which puts her in control. Besides you hitting the drums, saying that you do not wait longer than 30 minutes before hand and coming late 15 minutes yourself drastically cuts your waiting time.
Strange but true, if you start to come over as demanding, they behave better. Which leaves still the fact that for many of them time means very little since they have nothing to do all day.
[QUOTE=David_33;1208036]General consensus is that its a waste of time and counterproductive to start the dating site chatting frenzy more than a month before a planned trip. But its your spare time, spend it as you wish. You will find that if you encounter a worthwhile girl, she will not be satisfied with an endless chat relationship and promised trips that never materialize. This trip I started the process a day before arriving in Cebu.[/QUOTE]I think just about anyone who has ever been to the Phils pretty much understands this. The reality is that many guys based outside the Phils derive a considerable kick from chatting up pretty girls over the internet even if they know in their hearts that they are very unlikely to make an appearance in reality. My view is that as long as the guy is reasonably honest about the situation it's fine. Of course some guys are far from honest about the situation. A particularly nasty trick is to actually arrange a date and get the girl to tart herself up and take a couple of jeep rides to meet him in some mall. When the guy is not even in the country.
I agree completely. It's extremely important to frame your interactions correctly when dealing with Filipinas.
So, establish the correct frame: You are the Kano, with many, many women in Phils eager to spend time with you. Any girl's shoes are easily filled; she's well aware of that. But are you aware? That's what she wants to know. So much of what females say and do are unconscious "shit-tests" tossed out to gauge what a man will let them get away with. (This applies to all women: bargirls, dia, and also "normal" ones.)
Don't be an asshole or be cruel, but do be the boss. She wants you to. Really.
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1208057]So I arrange to meet a DIA gal today at 12 noon.
She seemed quite smart and worldly-wise, was looking forward to meeting a new foreigner, and the time and place was established by her. The place to meet was quite close to her home.
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Then it started wrong already: you let her choose the time and place. Which puts her in control. Besides you hitting the drums, saying that you do not wait longer than 30 minutes before hand and coming late 15 minutes yourself drastically cuts your waiting time.
Strange but true, if you start to come over as demanding, they behave better. Which leaves still the fact that for many of them time means very little since they have nothing to do all day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=D Cups; 1207639]Good question, FF. See Yurji's response.
Still, if you keep her in her environment they will not get tainted / Americanized. But then you have to deal with a bunch of moocher relatives. It is a tough decision. Are you married, FF? If so, what do get out of it?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's a catch 22. Also you have to deal with outrageous visa fees and the hassle of renewal and all the other bad things about that terrible Country: bad air, scams, crime, traffic, laws stacked against you, and knowing that is unlikely you will ever be accepted on the same level as a Filipino. Some guys have imported women and try to keep them isolated in some rural area, but that's a strategy that is bound to fail and cause problems.
Maybe taking them to another third world country is one option. Most of the ones on DIA can do little or nothing to improve the standing of a foreigner unless you marry them, but even that's not much help. In most cases for the ones on DIA if your money runs out you're dead meat as far as they are concerned. The Country is ok for short term sex tourism but for living it leaves alot to be desired.
[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1208070]This is why I often double book. The first one crossing the finish line gets the sausage.[/QUOTE]What do you do if they both show up at the same time? Hmmm. Maybe a cat fight!
[QUOTE=Fslag338;1208118]Then it started wrong already: you let her choose the time and place. Which puts her in control. Besides you hitting the drums, saying that you do not wait longer than 30 minutes before hand and coming late 15 minutes yourself drastically cuts your waiting time.[/QUOTE]Well I hear your comments Fslag and Drive all Night but as someone who has lived and worked here permanently for 14 years I know very well the different ways to deal with the myriad of women with whom I have interacted, and the formulae that you prescribed ("choose where to meet";"staying in control";"being the boss";"be demanding" etc) may or may not be appropriate, and are not necessarily always going to "work". All human beings behave and respond differently. For example, in my work situation I have several filipinas who are way superior to me in rank so using these sweeping chauvinistic approaches are not sure-fire prescriptions for success.
The point of my post was not to seek advice on what to do differently. It was just another saga in the "always late" chronicles that are frequently reported here (as evidenced by the heading I used).
I simply wanted to show to inexperienced mongers that a girl will turn up 1 hour and 50 minutes after the appointed time and wonder what all the fuss is about.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1208057]So I arrange to meet a DIA gal today at 12 noon.
She seemed quite smart and worldly-wise, was looking forward to meeting a new foreigner, and the time and place was established by her. The place to meet was quite close to her home.
Here is the sequence of events as per text:
11. 30 am: ME: I am on the way now. See you at 12.
11. 35: HER: Me too. See you soon.
12. 05pm: ME: Where are you now?
12. 06 : HER: Sorry honey. So traffic. Maybe another 15 mins.
12. 25: ME: Calls her."Where are you?". HER: "So sorry, so much traffic.
12. 40: ME: I have waited for 40 mins and you are not here. I am going now. I cannot wait any longer.
I leave.
12. 45: HER: I am not far away now. Please wait 10 mins OK?
12. 46: ME: Nope. I am going back to my office now.
1. 15: HER: I am almost there. I am looking forward to meeting you.
1. 50: HER: I am here now but I cannot see you. Were you serious when you said you were leaving?
1. 51: ME: Do you really expect me to stay around waiting for 1 hour and 50 mins for you? I am back in my office now.
1. 55: HER: Why are you foriners so important for time (her words)
There was no further exchange. Those of you planning a trip to meet a filipina here who have never done so before. Be warned.
The above is a true account of what happened today.[/QUOTE]If its any consolation, I had a similar expereince yesterday with a Filipina in Taipei.
Me. Text me when you are on mrt (then I would know she was 15 minutes away)
Her Ok I text you.
She texts me," mrt ok "/
I leave work go to mrt station.
20 minutes later " where are you "
Her " I'm walking to bus stop to take bus to mrt "
Me. AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH
We met up later yesterday for a bonk, which was one of the most boring bonks I've had in years.
No matter theres thousands more to sample.
I still can not understand guys who cone here for less than 1 month try and meet dia girls. Then complain. Read the forums pina and Pino are on a different time scale. They count days not minutes you can not change that.
Also there are so many girls who work and turn up just spend your time and money on thoses. They are also more experiance and often have a hygiene check.
For every 1 good hook up on a dating site I would guess there is 100 rejections.
I think this tread should have a terms of service (TOS) every time some one posts start with the words above.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1208212]Well I hear your comments Fslag and Drive all Night but as someone who has lived and worked here permanently for 14 years I know very well the different ways to deal with the myriad of women with whom I have interacted, and the formulae that you prescribed ("choose where to meet";"staying in control";"being the boss";"be demanding" etc) may or may not be appropriate, and are not necessarily always going to "work". All human beings behave and respond differently. For example, in my work situation I have several filipinas who are way superior to me in rank so using these sweeping chauvinistic approaches are not sure-fire prescriptions for success.
The point of my post was not to seek advice on what to do differently. It was just another saga in the "always late" chronicles that are frequently reported here (as evidenced by the heading I used).
I simply wanted to show to inexperienced mongers that a girl will turn up 1 hour and 50 minutes after the appointed time and wonder what all the fuss is about.[/QUOTE]Heh, I should've been more clear RK. I know you're well-versed in the ways of Filipinas. My post was meant for those perhaps less experienced than yourself.
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1208007]I love the popcorn coca cola culture of this country just point the in the right direction make it sound as if its normal natural and exciting and off you go. Easy easy easy kill for anyone struggling to come up with activities for a date there you go.[/QUOTE]Back in the Mid-80s, on one of my many trips to AC, I asked a Parameter Road bar girl I was sweet on where she would like to go after an afternoon delight and she said movie. It was an all Tagalog PI movie at an old movie house on MacArthur, and I did not understand a damn word. She would lean over and whisper what was happening. Quite sweet and was handsomely rewarded later that night.
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1208467]Back in the Mid-80s, on one of my many trips to AC, I asked a Parameter Road bar girl I was sweet on where she would like to go after an afternoon delight and she said movie. It was an all Tagalog PI movie at an old movie house on MacArthur, and I did not understand a damn word. She would lean over and whisper what was happening. Quite sweet and was handsomely rewarded later that night.
Slim[/QUOTE]And talking of movies. Long long before Greenbelt and the area where Havana is was a large supermarket. And before that there was a particualr movie house that was basically open 20 hours a day. But the best part was htat if you bought a ticket you were entitled to stay there as long as you liked. None of this one ticket one show deal. I think the price back then was something crazy like P20, as I well remember spending 4 hours there with a sweet young lady. This was back in mid 80's before I discovered Sogos LOL.
Ocassionally I read Dragonladies. Org which lists various scams etc. And I recall once reading about a guy who was seding out pics of girls and wanted a bodybuilding dvd plus some US branded clothes in exchange for the girls contacts. Truly strange but I think the same guy sent me email today.
I'm when I get an email from what appeared to be a ladys email address saying they had seen my profile in DIA and here were photos of a gal (big old ugly) available for marriage. Being true to my type and not having anything better I replied "why not send me her naked pics LOL"
Reply came back " I don't have naked pics of her but of her younger friend". The person sends me some naked pics of a girl that looked a bit better along with the attached.
"Jesse here from dateinasia. I can help you find a young and pretty filipina lady for marriage. I am attaching photos of Alma and Marilou. Alma is 27 years old. 5'2" and Marilou is 23 years old. 4'9" both are single, never been married and no kids yet. Marilou is the smaller and younger one. Both are ready to marry anytime now. They can relocate. They both work as nanny, takes care of children, cook them food, wash clothes etc. I can help you marrying one of them if you help order just 1 big air france concorde model plane toy. You can order online and send it here directly. Can I send you the link of the model plane on the website? I hope you can consider. Please email back if you are interested contact Jesse Phone (63) 9152612459 PHILIPPINES.
So there you go. A concorde air france model as payment?
The internet has some truly strange people on it. !
In planning for an upcoming trip to Philippines Dec. 10 through 18 I have been wasting tons of time chatting up ladies on DIA. Would like to know a few things from you more experienced folks.
1. Is it likely these girls will have sex on the first date? Any advice on how to ensure this will happen (things to do, say, give, places to go.)?
2. Is there a way or code word in their profile to tell which girls are looking for P4P or at least open to it?
3. Is there a way or code word in their profile to tell which girls are not open to P4P?
4. Why do some girls show the two fingers or peace sign in their pictures? Are they code for something?
Please do not tell me to read the forum as I have already done that and did not find this information.
Thanks in advance for your help and I would love to meet up with some of you during my upcoming trip.
In my previous post I asked for advice on DIA. Are there other websites I should be checking out besides DIA? Hoping to focus mostly on hooking-up with non-pros if that is doable. Fallback plan is P4P. LOL.
Thanks!
I've taken to telling girls that if they are really late I will start collecting phone numbers from other girls at the mall. And if they show up, I will show them the numbers I got.
They may get the message. Or not. But the message must be sent: you have other options. Many other options.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1207639]Still, if you keep her in her environment they will not get tainted / Americanized. But then you have to deal with a bunch of moocher relatives. It is a tough decision.[/QUOTE]First of all, I don't think anybody should be naive to think that a girl will behave the same before and after marriage. The guy doesn't act the same too. Just like, an employee rarely behaves the same at the job interview as he does after he's been on the job for five years.
Second, let's be very honest here. Many guys who marries native Filipinas are older white men (in his 50s and 60s) who hooked up with a 20something gal. She "changes" not because she changed, but because these kinds of unions are unnatural to begin with. Over time, her needs and his needs will diverge simply by virtue of the age difference. I have a feeling that if these guys married someone closer in age, he would find she wouldn't have "changed" so much.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1208837]I have a feeling that if these guys married someone closer in age, he would find she wouldn't have "changed" so much.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but then the old geezer is left with an old flip hag for a wife. Who wants that?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1208837]First of all, I don't think anybody should be naive to think that a girl will behave the same before and after marriage. The guy doesn't act the same too. Just like, an employee rarely behaves the same at the job interview as he does after he's been on the job for five years.
Second, let's be very honest here. Many guys who marries native Filipinas are older white men (in his 50s and 60s) who hooked up with a 20something gal. She "changes" not because she changed, but because these kinds of unions are unnatural to begin with. Over time, her needs and his needs will diverge simply by virtue of the age difference. I have a feeling that if these guys married someone closer in age, he would find she wouldn't have "changed" so much.[/QUOTE]Agreed. ALL women change after marriage, which is why it is a bad idea. I used to take aerobic classes from middle-aged women who were in killer shape. These women are rare exceptions.
I've personally seen guys in their 50's and 60's marrying hot Filipinas in their 20's and bringing them back to the US. You're kidding yourself if you can't see where that is headed. If you're an older guy hoping for some sort of long-term relationship, you had better take it up several notches. Get in shape. Get off the couch and onto the dance floor or hiking trail. Learn Filipino, or Philippine customs, get involved with her family.
All of the Filipinas I mentioned (who left geezer husbands once they moved to the US) are remarried to, or shacking up with, younger men closer to their age. These women are not single and dateless for very long.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1208581]I can help you marrying one of them if you help order just 1 big air france concorde model plane toy. You can order online and send it here directly. Can I send you the link of the model plane on the website? I hope you can consider. Please email back if you are interested contact Jesse Phone (63) 9152612459 PHILIPPINES.
So there you go. A concorde air france model as payment?
The internet has some truly strange people on it. ![/QUOTE]Even stranger I actually have one of those that I bought at Airbus while in school in Toulouse, France. I can sell it to you if you are really interested in making one of those girls your bride!
[QUOTE=SergeantRay;1208866]I've personally seen guys in their 50's and 60's marrying hot Filipinas in their 20's and bringing them back to the US. You're kidding yourself if you can't see where that is headed. If you're an older guy hoping for some sort of long-term relationship, you had better take it up several notches. Get in shape. Get off the couch and onto the dance floor or hiking trail.[/QUOTE]
It's not about how he looks physically. There are just insurmountable differences between people that different in age. No matter how he tries, a 50 year old man can never become genuinely interested in the Twilight movies or the latest winner of American Idol. He just cannot communicate on her level.
The trick for a 50 year old man is to marry a women at least 35 years old. I'm 31 years old. When I was in Cebu, I dated a fabulous and sweet 20 year old. Yet, there is NO WAY I can fathom marrying her. Maturity level was just too different. And we're only 11 years apart.
[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1208848]Yeah, but then the old geezer is left with an old flip hag for a wife. Who wants that?[/QUOTE]
That's the morale of the story. If a guy is an old geezer, nature intends him to marry an old geezer. You can't cheat natural forces.
Besides, if a man wants a young women to tend to his needs, he should hire a nurse. Marriage is about having a stable life and bearing children. The women may be an imperfect wife but at least he something meaningful in his life: FAMILY.
On the other hand, you have old guys interested only in swinging for the rest of his life. Those are the expats I see in Angeles City -- walking corpses who simply lounge around, playing pool, drinking, flirting with girls, bitching about the Koreans and literally waiting to die in a foreign land. I'd rather have an imperfect wife and a family living in the US than to live like those expats.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1208916]That's the morale of the story. If a guy is an old geezer, nature intends him to marry an old geezer. You can't cheat natural forces.
Besides, if a man wants a young women to tend to his needs, he should hire a nurse. Marriage is about having a stable life and bearing children. The women may be an imperfect wife but at least he something meaningful in his life: FAMILY.[/QUOTE]Hundred Thousands years of oral history and thousands of years of well documented histrory of well to do old male geezers marrying young brides swept away in one immediate swoop. Less than one hundred years of women's lib and we think things have always been the way it is in the west. At the same time many here lament the biatchiness of westernized women. Quite baffling mate! Have you given some serious thought that our village dwelling forebears may just have gotten it right before reaching your sweeping conclusions?
Just saying.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1209030]31 huh. You sound like a dumb punk calling us older guys geezers. Let's compare notes when your 50 and I'm 70 and see who's happiest. Never say never. I happen to like idol and lots of things "young" people like but then again I'm a musician and a professor so I'll always be young at heart. Stay in the USA and marry your ideal American woman and raise your ideal family. Good luck with that. I'll do the same in the P. I. When I'm 60 something with a 20 something. A busty beautiful RN. Cheers.[/QUOTE]When I read FFs post earlier I wondered how a guy 31 is able to put himself in the shoes of a guy 50+. There's a whole lotta learning to be done in 20 some years and its obvious that FF has a whole lotta learning to do.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1208916]The trick for a 50 year old man is to marry a women at least 35 years old. I'm 31 years old. When I was in Cebu, I dated a fabulous and sweet 20 year old. Yet, there is NO WAY I can fathom marrying her. Maturity level was just too different. And we're only 11 years apart.[/QUOTE]Your 31 and you can not relate to a 20 yo. I am 45 and think relating a 20yo pina is fine. I even have a few 20 yo pina working for me in my biz I do not see a lack of maturity.
I think you have problems with women not their age. I talk to these 20yo girls about any topic we go see movies together, watch tv talk about the news. They are mature at 20 and some even have a high IQ (they tell me stuff that I have to think about before I reply). We even have deep and meaningful talks that why I love the pina catholic upbringing, we do social stuff all the time. Did you ever meet a girls parents? Go to church with her? Talk to her friends? I mean they are still part of the human race. Sure they are not as experience as me at 45 that makes some of our deep and meaningful talks.
[quote=furryfriend; 1208916]it's not about how he looks physically. there are just insurmountable differences between people that different in age. no matter how he tries, a 50 year old man can never become genuinely interested in the twilight movies or the latest winner of american idol. he just cannot communicate on her level.
the trick for a 50 year old man is to marry a women at least 35 years old. i'm 31 years old. when i was in cebu, i dated a fabulous and sweet 20 year old. yet, there is no way i can fathom marrying her. maturity level was just too different. and we're only 11 years apart.[/quote]i am 53 and my wife is 26. we have been married for 7 years, and we have a great marriage. i mean, no marriage is always 100% perfect, but we never really think of the age difference anymore. my wife is a college graduate, a us citizen, and has a good job. yes, she send some money to her family (about $200 per month) , but that comes from her income.
my wife is very attractive, still 95 lbs. and blessed with a very high libido (probably higher than mine) , and gets hit on frequently by guys closer to her age and much better looking than me. but she has never been unfaithful, and would never think of breaking her vows. maybe it has something to do with her religious upbringing, and being from a small village in the provinces.
if my wife were inclined to ditch me for a younger guy, i'm sure she would have done so long ago, since she has no legal or financial reason to feel tied to me. indeed, the only time we have occasional arguments is when i get busy in my work, and fail to give her the attention she needs. yes, she can sometimes be demanding, but not about money or material things-it's always about me spending time with her. but our arguments are very infrequent and short lived, and i must say that after 7 years, she still practically "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url]" me when we are home together.
by the way, even though i am 53, i am very open minded and like to enjoy new and different things. we have both enjoyed watching twilight movies and american idol, usually while cuddling together in bed. .
is my situation typical? i have no idea, but many of my wife's filipina friends are also married to men much older than them, and they also seem very happy. yes, there are some older guys who are foolish enough to marry bargirls or trashy type girls, but when you look in a trash can, trash is what you'll get.
rg
[quote=d cups;1209030]you sound like a dumb punk calling us older guys geezers.[/quote]you are really retarded. my usage of the phrase "old geezers" was merely a quote of a post i was responding to. since you didn't object to an earlier usage of that phrase, one can only conclude that you're offended not at the phrase but at my opinion.
[quote=frenzy3;1209042]they are mature at 20 and some even have a high iq[/quote]you might be the first person in history to consider 20 year olds to be generally mature. in the usa and many countries, 20 year olds are forbidden to buy liquor or gamble.
do you know that the philippines government prohibits women **** 23 to work as an overseas foreign worker? that can only mean, the philippines government believe those under 23 aren't mature enough to handle the responsibilities of working overseas.
In Australia you drink and vote at 18. Here you are no longer a minor at 18 and have leagal rights it not about the law it about knowing people. Something you seem to lack. I spend quality time with pina and I use to know young 18 yo girls in aust and the pina are more mature due to thier harder life. Please define what you think maturity is what you posted was a age gap thing which you can get over. Maturity to me is about behavior and this forum has great examples of poor behavior.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1208916]That's the morale of the story. If a guy is an old geezer, nature intends him to marry an old geezer. You can't cheat natural forces.
Besides, if a man wants a young women to tend to his needs, he should hire a nurse. Marriage is about having a stable life and bearing children. The women may be an imperfect wife but at least he something meaningful in his life: FAMILY.
On the other hand, you have old guys interested only in swinging for the rest of his life. Those are the expats I see in Angeles City. Walking corpses who simply lounge around, playing pool, drinking, flirting with girls, bitching about the Koreans and literally waiting to die in a foreign land. I'd rather have an imperfect wife and a family living in the US than to live like those expats.[/QUOTE]Furryfriend makes a strong argument that nature intended old poles to stick to old holes. Most men did not make it out of their 40's until relatively recently in mankind's history. Disease, backbreaking work, malnutrition and violence made sure of that. The phenomenon of 60 to 70 yr old geezers traveling to distant lands for the sole purpose of fucking the local teens on the cheap is not even a century old. In fact, prior to 1998 most geezers could only look at young pussy and wish they could dial back the clock a few decades. Then in 1998, Viagra made its debut and geezers were capable of getting drug induced boners. Predictably, silver divorces began to rise as the natural state of affairs was disrupted between elderly couples. The ability of foreign geezers to root the youth in the developing world is due largely to severe economic disparity, Viagra, penile implants, pacemakers, advanced cardiovascular surgery and other medical advances. It is hardly surprising that such unequal marriages fall apart in the developed world.
[quote=radical guy; 1209154]i am 53 and my wife is 26. we have been married for 7 years, and we have a great marriage. i mean, no marriage is always 100% perfect, but we never really think of the age difference anymore. my wife is a college graduate, a us citizen, and has a good job. yes, she send some money to her family (about $200 per month) , but that comes from her income.
my wife is very attractive, still 95 lbs. and blessed with a very high libido (probably higher than mine) , and gets hit on frequently by guys closer to her age and much better looking than me. but she has never been unfaithful, and would never think of breaking her vows. maybe it has something to do with her religious upbringing, and being from a small village in the provinces.
if my wife were inclined to ditch me for a younger guy, i'm sure she would have done so long ago, since she has no legal or financial reason to feel tied to me. indeed, the only time we have occasional arguments is when i get busy in my work, and fail to give her the attention she needs. yes, she can sometimes be demanding, but not about money or material things-it's always about me spending time with her. but our arguments are very infrequent and short lived, and i must say that after 7 years, she still practically "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url]" me when we are home together.
by the way, even though i am 53, i am very open minded and like to enjoy new and different things. we have both enjoyed watching twilight movies and american idol, usually while cuddling together in bed. .
is my situation typical? i have no idea, but many of my wife's filipina friends are also married to men much older than them, and they also seem very happy. yes, there are some older guys who are foolish enough to marry bargirls or trashy type girls, but when you look in a trash can, trash is what you'll get.
rg[/quote]that's quite sad. not your marriage, but the fact you watch american idol!
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1209315]The ability of foreign geezers to root the youth in the developing world is due largely to severe economic disparity,[/QUOTE]Exactly. It's this economic need, and nothing else, that would motivate a 20 year old Filipina to even talk to some 60 year old man from Kentucky on a webcam to begin with. People here need to stop joking themselves into thinking there's more than economics. Economic need makes the unnatural happen.
Let's take this 20 year old and bring her to America. Do you think she'll be flirting up a 60 year old man at the dog food aisle at Walmart? This proves that, in a natural setting where both genders have choices, she'll choose someone closer in age...someone she can better communicate with. Like it or not, similarity in age produces compatibility. And compatibility produces greater likelihood for a successful marriage.
You can tell there's gross incompatibility when guys talk about keeping a wife in a third-world shithole so that she wouldn't "change".
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1209349]Exactly. It's this economic need, and nothing else, that would motivate a 20 year old Filipina to even talk to some 60 year old man from Kentucky on a webcam to begin with. People here need to stop joking themselves into thinking there's more than economics. Economic need makes the unnatural happen.
Let's take this 20 year old and bring her to America. Do you think she'll be flirting up a 60 year old man at the dog food aisle at Walmart? This proves that, in a natural setting where both genders have choices, she'll choose someone closer in age. Someone she can better communicate with. Like it or not, similarity in age produces compatibility. And compatibility produces greater likelihood for a successful marriage.
You can tell there's gross incompatibility when guys talk about keeping a wife in a third-world shithole so that she wouldn't "change".[/QUOTE]This is a very accurate and well-written post Furry F.
I think you made a number of excellent points here that hit the nail squarely on the head.
What you said doesn't preclude the possibility that the 20 year old and the 60 year old Kentucky guy might get it together and be happy too as Radical Guy so eloquently pointed out in an earlier post.
But, as you said, the odds are well-stacked against it.
Age difference does not matter, it about attitude. Treat a girl like a piece of meat and she will up and leave. My last gf was 25 years one of my current pina gf is now 5 years and she is more than 20 years my jr. Both know I have a open relationship with them. So many of my mates have no gf as they lie to their gf and over the years the girl leaves.
If you think a girl just stays for the money, then you are mistaken. Try living with a girl, yes money is important but not if you use it to make her stay it will not work, bar girls I have met can marry for money but they still need to like the guy. I know many that are still married. I also know girls who are ex bar and their bf is older.
This is my first hand experience. I hear stories on this board but I think it is skewed with guys who have no idea how to relate to girls this is why they will keep paying for sex, I pay the girls now to leave as at 45 I know what I want, and I am here as 5 girls cost me less but I earn less living here. In aust I could still have 2 or more gf but I left aust for other reasons.
The older guys who retire here are not delusional they know what I know "better to pay the girls to leave"
[quote=d cups;1209385]hello, my friend rk, if she is well stacked like the odds, count me in.[/quote]this one is well stacked.
[url]http://www.ladyboykisses.com/showfotos.php?l=en&id=34743&foto_id=168229&history=15&randm=2&randw=3[/url]
yes yes, i know. i got an email and my hand moved automatically and clicked on these bazookas without reflecting on the context. fuck knows if i would reflect on the context if i had these in front of me in reality as well.
"say would you let me cry.
on your shoulder, i've heard that you'll try anything twice"
d cups, the one girl i sent you contact details to, squirted her milk all over me last visit a couple of weeks ago. i even shot a nice and juicy video of it. big tits filled with milk, but take my advice and have her use the bottle for the whole day before she comes. does not take much before a ripe melon goes soft and saggy.
i know this is somewhat the wrong thread, but still want to apologize for not accommodating the invitations to cebu that some of you sent me. i took this 18 year old girls cherry some months ago, and she was not ready for some anal [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] fun so i hope i can be excused? next time i will come to cebu and join the fun.
barba
[quote=d cups;1209385]hello, my friend rk, if she is well stacked like the odds, count me in.[/quote]this one is well stacked.
[url]http://www.ladyboykisses.com/showfotos.php?l=en&id=34743&foto_id=168229&history=15&randm=2&randw=3[/url]
yes yes, i know. i got an email and my hand moved automatically and clicked on these bazookas without reflecting on the context. fuck knows if i would reflect on the context if i had these in front of me in reality as well.
"say would you let me cry.
on your shoulder, i've heard that you'll try anything twice"
d cups, the one girl i sent you contact details to, squirted her milk all over me last visit a couple of weeks ago. i even shot a nice and juicy video of it. big tits filled with milk, but take my advice and have her use the bottle for the whole day before she comes. does not take much before a ripe melon goes soft and saggy.
i know this is somewhat the wrong thread, but still want to apologize for not accommodating the invitations to cebu that some of you sent me. i took this 18 year old girls cherry some months ago, and she was not ready for some anal [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] fun so i hope i can be excused? next time i will come to cebu and join the fun.
barba
While reading and replying to messages on DIA, I came across the profile of sexyP_vanessa. I could not keep myself from laughing when I read her self description.
"I'm nice woman ef you god man you can asking me?
I am nice woman and carenig too! I am virgin never ben kess so ef man how loves me he is lucky!"
So I wonder what a man would have to do to be lucky with her! :D
[quote=radical guy; 1209154]i am 53 and my wife is 26. we have been married for 7 years, and we have a great marriage. i mean, no marriage is always 100% perfect, but we never really think of the age difference anymore. my wife is a college graduate, a us citizen, and has a good job. yes, she send some money to her family (about $200 per month) , but that comes from her income.
my wife is very attractive, still 95 lbs. and blessed with a very high libido (probably higher than mine) , and gets hit on frequently by guys closer to her age and much better looking than me. but she has never been unfaithful, and would never think of breaking her vows. maybe it has something to do with her religious upbringing, and being from a small village in the provinces.
if my wife were inclined to ditch me for a younger guy, i'm sure she would have done so long ago, since she has no legal or financial reason to feel tied to me. indeed, the only time we have occasional arguments is when i get busy in my work, and fail to give her the attention she needs. yes, she can sometimes be demanding, but not about money or material things-it's always about me spending time with her. but our arguments are very infrequent and short lived, and i must say that after 7 years, she still practically "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url]" me when we are home together.
by the way, even though i am 53, i am very open minded and like to enjoy new and different things. we have both enjoyed watching twilight movies and american idol, usually while cuddling together in bed. .
is my situation typical? i have no idea, but many of my wife's filipina friends are also married to men much older than them, and they also seem very happy. yes, there are some older guys who are foolish enough to marry bargirls or trashy type girls, but when you look in a trash can, trash is what you'll get.
rg[/quote]depends on what condition you're in. 53 is not that old. despite that your situation if it is as you describe it, is unusual; in western cultures it is rare unless the male is wealthy and generous and doesn't care if his wife screws around on the side. in the phil it is less rare, but many filipinas have younger be / f on the side as has been alluded to numerous times in this forum. what is rarer is the almost unbelievable thing that she pays for her families support from her own money, that's rare in the pi. the fact that you like watching american idol and twilight shows you're weird in your own right, hehehe. now where did i put my bs spray?
[quote=frenzy3; 1209411]age difference does not matter, it about attitude. treat a girl like a piece of meat and she will up and leave.
if you think a girl just stays for the money, then you are mistaken.
this is my first hand experience. i hear stories on this board but i think it is skewed with guys who have no idea how to relate to girls this is why they will keep paying for sex[/quote]when i was in college in california ten years ago, i would frequently encounter and meet the types of young filipinas that we all lust after.
let me ask you a question. what are the odds that you, a 45 year old man, can get a filipina campus cutie like that to be your girlfriend in america? what are the odds she'll go for you and not one of her male peers?
if you're honest, you would admit your odds are pretty dismal. because in my college years, i have never seen any of them go hand-in-hand with a man old enough to be her father, no matter how good his "attitude" (as you put it).
the reason it's easier to meet girls like that in the philippines is simple: one's socioeconomic status. that is the only difference. if you can provide another explaination, you are far more creative (or delusional) than me.
the very fact that we go to the philippines to chase tail proves my argument. according to the us census, there are 4. 3 million filipinos in the united states. if it's not about money, it should be similarily easy to get filipinas in the usa there's certainly plenty of them. no dumbass would need to travel to some shit-filled country if he can get similar results at home.
i'm a 31 year old chinese-american. i'm the type who can get 20something girls without the money factor. but when i'm in the philippines, i know my age or ethnicity has little to do with the attention i get from the ladies. it's only because i'm american. i am the guy who can provide a lifestyle she can only dream of.
this is why i don't walk around with a huge ego there. without being american, i'm as useless as the next pinoy. that makes me humble, no matter how much a girl there passionately fawns over me.
you're right. money isn't everything. if she wants to be your girlfriend or wife, certainly attitude matters, as well as your looks and age. but without money in the first place, none of those traits will matter. it's money that allows her to overlook your negatives qualities (like your old age or protruding beer belly). i think most of my critics here understand this intuitively. but they're in denial because what i've said is damaging to their egos.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1209677]This is why I don't walk around with a huge ego there. Without being American, I'm as useless as the next Pinoy. That makes me humble, no matter how much a girl there passionately fawns over me.
You're right. Money isn't everything. If she wants to be your girlfriend or wife, certainly attitude matters, as well as your looks and age. But without money in the first place, none of those traits will matter. It's money that allows her to overlook your negatives qualities (like your old age or protruding beer belly). I think most of my critics here understand this intuitively. But they're in denial because what I've said is damaging to their egos.[/QUOTE]First stop comparing living in USA to living here (I have dated in Aust). If you marry the right girl for you she will go to USA and stick with you as I have seen with other guys, marry the wrong girl and age will not matter she still will leave you once she has the visa.
I am fat and always have skinny so looks and age will match with what my girls wants, Pina have no problem telling me if a guy is too old.
I stress that I am not looking for a wife or just 1 gf so I will pay my girls I have now. But I know guys here with younger GF and they not pay
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion about why Filipinas like older men. I personally believe there are some that like the older guys, regardless of their money or physical shape. But really, who cares? Getting married carries a lot of risk, regardless the ages or nationalities of the bride and groom. After being dumb enough to marry and divorce twice, I don't plan to try it again. I believe that all women, at some point in time turn into crazy be*tches. So I would not recommend marriage to anyone. If you want a girl friend, fine. Have your fun with her until she starts getting crazy. Then dump her and move on to the next. If any of us was truly on here searching for where they can find a wife, I doubt we would be on a "sex guide" site.
Accept the fact that not everyone will agree on this subject, and get back to the subject of this thread.
HW
The V-sign used to stand for VICTORY, but now on sites like DiA and others it means "remember to bring your VIAGRA when you cum to visit me"
[QUOTE=Thicktrick;1208787]4. Why do some girls show the two fingers or peace sign in their pictures? Are they code for something?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Thicktrick; 1208787]In planning for an upcoming trip to Philippines Dec. 10 through 18 I have been wasting tons of time chatting up ladies on DIA. Would like to know a few things from you more experienced folks.
1. Is it likely these girls will have sex on the first date? Any advice on how to ensure this will happen (things to do, say, give, places to go.)?
2. Is there a way or code word in their profile to tell which girls are looking for P4P or at least open to it?
3. Is there a way or code word in their profile to tell which girls are not open to P4P?
4. Why do some girls show the two fingers or peace sign in their pictures? Are they code for something?
Please do not tell me to read the forum as I have already done that and did not find this information.[/QUOTE]Thick:
Having said that you have read this very thread carefully (Chat Rooms and Pen Pals) , you should have picked up the oft-stated advice that rarely do profiles on DIA correlate with what a girl wants or is looking for. I say rarely because hidden away in the dross are profiles that are diamonds (but they stand out like dog's balls).
For example (and this is a random listing)
- They get friends to write a profile for them.
- Friends or relatives write a profile and put it up for them without being asked.
- They copy another girl's profile that sounds good but they don't understand what it means.
- They just use their friends' profiles (2 or more girls using one profile; Yes it happens)
- They write a dream fantasy for who they want but in reality they will take anyone, as long as he is a foreigner and is breathing.
- They do not tell the truth. Just last weekend I chatted with 2 girls. One who posted she was 26 with no kids who admitted on chat that she was actually 31 with one child; another who posted no kids who admitted to having 3.
Etc.
So, when you asked whether there is a hidden code in the profiles then you are assuming they have carefully crafted their profiles. The answer is no.
Open-minded might mean what we logically hope it means but it also can mean willing to accept anything about her that might emerge once you meet her in person.
My advice: Make your profile very explicit about not only what you are seeking but what you are NOT seeking too. For example,"seeking a companion for fun times. Not looking for a wife at this time."
Don't be too explicit (such as "I want to meet hot women for sex") or the easily-offended women who read your profile will report you and you will be booted off.
Engage in chat if you are interested, and then try to get her YM address so you can chat in greater detail (and hopefully with a cam) which it seems you have already done. At this stage when the chat goes to plan then you can tell her straight out what you expect to happen on the first date. There is no formula for this. No book of instructions for you to follow.
But whatever happens, give yourself an escape route for when you meet for the first time in case she is not what you expected when you meet face to face. Cameras sometimes lie.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Thicktrick; 1208787]In planning for an upcoming trip to Philippines Dec. 10 through 18 I have been wasting tons of time chatting up ladies on DIA. Would like to know a few things from you more experienced folks.
1. Is it likely these girls will have sex on the first date? Any advice on how to ensure this will happen (things to do, say, give, places to go.)?
2. Is there a way or code word in their profile to tell which girls are looking for P4P or at least open to it?
3. Is there a way or code word in their profile to tell which girls are not open to P4P?
4. Why do some girls show the two fingers or peace sign in their pictures? Are they code for something?
Please do not tell me to read the forum as I have already done that and did not find this information.
Thanks in advance for your help and I would love to meet up with some of you during my upcoming trip.[/QUOTE]1. This depends how you started the conversation with her. Most of the time direct approach works. If she agrees get her to come to your room rather than meet at a public place.
Just meeting for lunch does not guarantee anything. Most of the time they show up with cousin, auntie, friend. In order to save their reputation they will not go with you.
I have always asked upfront if sex is involved. I stop chatting with people who say " what kind of a girl you think I am ". Be upfront and say you are looking for intimacy. Most girls are horny and will do it.
Ofcourse money is always expected as a gift unless the girl is planning to trap you long term. Just clear your conscience by giving money openly or discretely. All girls appreciate money even if they say it is.
Not required.
2 and 3. There is no code word. By chatting you will know. Many girls say upfront they need money for this and that. You say only after meeting you are willing to give money. These girls will definitely give sex.
4. For some reason Asian girls flash a " V " sign be it be in Phi, China, Thailand, vietnam etc.
For mongering purposes this may mean- I got this guy's balls to happy I found my meal ticket or anywhere in between.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1209856]Much obliged, Barba. I don't do ladyboys, tho. No chicks with dicks.[/QUOTE]It was a joke.
I would even go so far as to saying that fakes of any kind does not do it for me. Had a couple of silicone tits and sure it was OK since the rest was quite good, but compared to a real and natural pair of E cups it is nothing. Big tits are all to rare in Asia, at least if you want the rest to be smallish.
B.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1209856]Much obliged, Barba. I don't do ladyboys, tho. No chicks with dicks.[/QUOTE]Just saw Hangover 2. Very funny scene in it about a lb moment.
[quote=furryfriend; 1209677]when i was in college in california ten years ago, i would frequently encounter and meet the types of young filipinas that we all lust after.
let me ask you a question. what are the odds that you, a 45 year old man, can get a filipina campus cutie like that to be your girlfriend in america? what are the odds she'll go for you and not one of her male peers?
if you're honest, you would admit your odds are pretty dismal. because in my college years, i have never seen any of them go hand-in-hand with a man old enough to be her father, no matter how good his "attitude" (as you put it).
the reason it's easier to meet girls like that in the philippines is simple: one's socioeconomic status. that is the only difference. if you can provide another explaination, you are far more creative (or delusional) than me.
the very fact that we go to the philippines to chase tail proves my argument. according to the us census, there are 4. 3 million filipinos in the united states. if it's not about money, it should be similarily easy to get filipinas in the usa there's certainly plenty of them. no dumbass would need to travel to some shit-filled country if he can get similar results at home.
i'm a 31 year old chinese-american. i'm the type who can get 20something girls without the money factor. but when i'm in the philippines, i know my age or ethnicity has little to do with the attention i get from the ladies. it's only because i'm american. i am the guy who can provide a lifestyle she can only dream of.
this is why i don't walk around with a huge ego there. without being american, i'm as useless as the next pinoy. that makes me humble, no matter how much a girl there passionately fawns over me.
you're right. money isn't everything. if she wants to be your girlfriend or wife, certainly attitude matters, as well as your looks and age. but without money in the first place, none of those traits will matter. it's money that allows her to overlook your negatives qualities (like your old age or protruding beer belly). i think most of my critics here understand this intuitively. but they're in denial because what i've said is damaging to their egos.[/quote]of course you are right. and it would behoove any foreigner to remember this because otherwise you start thinking they are interested in you for your exceptional good looks or personality, which leads to you overestimating your worth to them.
if you can find one that truely loves you, great, but i would not count on it from sites like dia. if you're young and handsome and charming, you probably can, but for those of us that are not all of those things do not make the mistake of investing your emotional baggage in one filipina because sooner or later you will realize that you're not much more than a walking atm to them.
try asking some of your filipina chatmates to give you something of value in return for your spending 300, 000 to visit them and their cr * phole country. then watch how their eager interest in you quickly wanes when they understand they might be required to give back something to you.
but it's not just about money, it's about the possibility of getting to the us or similar country. women are not treated very well in the phil compared to the usa. most of them want to escape the bad conditions of the phil and marriage to a foreigner is a quick painless way out.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1209713]Everybody is entitled to their own opinion about why Filipinas like older men. I personally believe there are some that like the older guys, regardless of their money or physical shape. But really, who cares? Getting married carries a lot of risk, regardless the ages or nationalities of the bride and groom. After being dumb enough to marry and divorce twice, I don't plan to try it again. I believe that all women, at some point in time turn into crazy be*tches. So I would not recommend marriage to anyone. If you want a girl friend, fine. Have your fun with her until she starts getting crazy. Then dump her and move on to the next. If any of us was truly on here searching for where they can find a wife, I doubt we would be on a "sex guide" site.
Accept the fact that not everyone will agree on this subject, and get back to the subject of this thread.
HW[/QUOTE]Once you have truely been in love you will realize that for most men there is one woman out there that you can live with forever and love her even more than when you first met. It's rare but it does happen.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1210470]Once you have truely been in love you will realize that for most men there is one woman out there that you can live with forever and love her even more than when you first met. It's rare but it does happen.[/QUOTE]Found mine nearly 25 years ago. :)
Slim
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1210470]Once you have truely been in love you will realize that for most men there is one woman out there that you can live with forever and love her even more than when you first met. It's rare but it does happen.[/QUOTE]Took me 25 years to get rid of mine. LOL
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1210481]Found mine nearly 25 years ago. .
Slim[/QUOTE]Good for you! Not many guys ever find their soulmates.
Now the cynical bastard in me wonders why you need to frequent a forum for those looking for paid sex partners?
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1210509]Now the cynical bastard in me wonders why you need to frequent a forum for those looking for paid sex partners?[/QUOTE]CS, you are confusing sex with love / life partner / life friend. Monogamy was invented by the need and desire to control people. I think it is an outdated concept in many respects.
Barba
[QUOTE=Barba; 1210545]CS, you are confusing sex with love / life partner / life friend. Monogamy was invented by the need and desire to control people. I think it is an outdated concept in many respects.
Barba[/QUOTE]I know! I've played monogamy. It's a bored game where you don't get any 'get out of jail free' cards. At least I didn't.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1210658]I know! I've played monogamy. It's a bored game where you don't get any 'get out of jail free' cards. At least I didn't.[/QUOTE]I tried playing that same game twice. And my experience was pretty much the same a CS. I decided that the old adage "third time is a charm" is not worth the risk. I'd rather grow old and die being f*cked by multiple young spinners than to be imprisoned with one old hag again.
I also question why anyone would claim to be happily married, or even seeking marriage, and frequently post on a sex search site. For some reason, the two concepts don't mix well. IMHO.
HW
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1210468]And it would behoove any foreigner to remember this because otherwise you start thinking they are interested in you for your exceptional good looks or personality, which leads to you overestimating your worth to them.[/QUOTE]
The following sentiment on this forum always amuses me...
If a white guy gets Pinays, it's because of his superior attitude. But if a Korean gets Pinays, it's because he's "throwing money around".
Philippines is a country where Quasimodo with an American citizenship can date, have sex and marry Filipinas quite easily. It's not exactly an accomplishment. People here need to deflate their egos and stop thinking of themselves as special. If anything, if you have to meet women in the Philippines, you're probably less desirable than your average Joe in your native country.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1209711]If you marry the right girl for you she will go to USA and stick with you as I have seen with other guys, marry the wrong girl and age will not matter she still will leave you once she has the visa.[/QUOTE]
I was never talking about marriage. I'm talking meeting, dating and getting a girlfriend in the Philippines.
Of course, a women isn't going to divorce and leave you once she lands in America (or whatever Western country). I'm only saying that your socioeconomic status was a crucial factor in her marrying you in the first place. Granted, all women (even those in Western countries) want guys to be financially stable. But this need is on steriods in the Philippines.
By the way, the "wrong" girl is almost always related to the difference in age between the two parties.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1210801]By the way, the "wrong" girl is almost always related to the difference in age between the two parties.[/QUOTE]I know of one failed case where age was not a factor. A buddy of mine married a Pinay about the same age as him and had a kid some years back. His daughter is 7 now I think. He said the woman was so damn lazy and so damn sorry that he could no longer put up with it and is in the process of a divorce now. He said all she had to do was go work a couple of hours at McDonald's while the kid was in school so she could have money to send back to PI and she would not even do that. He has yet to learn his lesson though because he is back to fishing in the same hole.
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1209711]If you marry the right girl for you she will go to USA and stick with you as I have seen with other guys, marry the wrong girl and age will not matter she still will leave you once she has the visa.[/QUOTE]Yeah but either way it is a hell of a risk to take.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1210801]By the way, the "wrong" girl is almost always related to the difference in age between the two parties.[/QUOTE]In my mind, I always thought the 'wrong' girl would be a 'bar' girl. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1210801]The following sentiment on this forum always amuses me.
By the way, the "wrong" girl is almost always related to the difference in age between the two parties.[/QUOTE]FurryFriend,
/br
For a 30something year old you seem to know it all. I think you are not looking hard enough at your environment. You are clueless.
[Soapbox on]
It is quite obvious you know less than you think you know about the Philippines. Your western biased cultural rants on age and marriage in the Philippines are getting quite old.
/br
For the majority of the world, including the Philippines, women marry men of means as a way to provide for their family. For many agrarian societies of the past, men married when they were able to support a family. This meant men marrying (often) much younger women (who were often in their mid teens) when they (ie, the men) were considerably older (ages thirty or older). Also, many societies had poligamy which meant that an extra-ordinarily abled man might have married his first wife when he was in his mid twenties and married his second or third wife whom are typically 15, 16 or at most 17 years old when he was in his thirtees or forties. This western notion of marrying similar age group is new and not universal. Even modern China seem to have the quaint notion of marriage, as the disparity between wages and cost of living is forcing many modern Chinese men to delay marriage, starting a family and buying homes. Modern Chinese men are marrying and starting a family much later than most modern western men.
/br.
Let this shit of yours go. It is not helping you or anyone else on this board to keep bantering on age disparities of western men and their Filipina wives or girlfriends. There is nothing inherently natural about men marrying women of the same age as themselves. I would say that the history of mankind has not proven this theory of yours. To the contrary, in many societies, older men marry younger women. And this seems to be true in the Philippines.
/br.
I thought about ignoring your rants. But, I couldn't. I hate BS and you seem to have a lot of it. You are 30 for crying out loud. You've seen nothing yet. Observe. Learn. Then comment. Things are not always what they seem to be at first blush.
/br.
Your notion about ideal marriage ages is just another western notion that gets bandied about without challenge. Much like the folks at Fox News (in USA) and News of the World (UK) bandy about materials that are propaganda as if they are facts. It's just BS. Give it a rest. Observe the culture in the Philippines, instead of trying to get it to fit your pre-concieved notions of what it ought to be.
/br.
Young Pinays date and some marry considerably older western men. So what? Unnatural? Says who? Define unatural. Do baboons marry or date (ehr f*ck) this way? How about monkeys, chickens, dogs, cats, mices, etc? Where the hell is this sh*t coming from?
[/Soapbox off]
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1210509]Good for you! Not many guys ever find their soulmates.
Now the cynical bastard in me wonders why you need to frequent a forum for those looking for paid sex partners?[/QUOTE]I really enjoyed my time in the PI when I was a younger single guy. Since I was US military, I could fly in and out of Clark Field for a mere $10. 00 from Okinawa. I spent several one week trips and a few long weekends in AC. The people were friendly, the girls pretty and accommodating and the beer was cold.
I guess I am reliving my youth through the adventures of younger men as I am now a crippled old married man.
Your time will come.
Slim
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1210801Philippines is a country where Quasimodo with an American citizenship can date, have sex and marry Filipinas quite easily. It's not exactly an accomplishment. People here need to deflate their egos and stop thinking of themselves as special. If anything, if you have to meet women in the Philippines, you're probably less desirable than your average Joe in your native country.[/QUOTE]Not having lived in my own country for the past 30 years I wouldn't know what the average Joe looked like there. But I can tel you that this mid 50s guy picks some great girls and they seem to all want to come back for seconds and thirds etcetc. And as they are all dates and generally free guess its not to do with the money. Maybe the older guys have got a little more game, a lot more style and whole heap more class. Hubble bubble toil and trouble. This pot will be stirred at the double.
I recommend a book called The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar. Old, but good stuff. I think you can find a copy online.
But in the defense of marriage, there has been a post catastrophe marriage increase in Japan. About 30. 40% of people in their 30s are still single, but some have come to the conclusion that life might be shorter than expected and therefore more people are tying the knot. But I talked to one housewife who is considering the reverse operation since her hubby ran out of the house during the earthquake. Leaving her there. X.
[QUOTE=Barba; 1210545]CS, you are confusing sex with love / life partner / life friend. Monogamy was invented by the need and desire to control people. I think it is an outdated concept in many respects.
Barba[/QUOTE]
[quote=nvslim; 1210874]i guess i am reliving my youth through the adventures of younger men as i am now a crippled old married man.
your time will come.
slim[/quote]sorry slim, guess that i'm insensitive as well as cynical.
maybe that is why i have such a large collection of personal pics/vids. when i'm old and drooling into my malted milk, i can review them and remember that i used to have a use, apart from peeing, for the wrinkled old dangly bits between my legs:).
the cs is actually getting funnier as he ages. he's like some kind of mushroom that gets better and better as the fungi multiply.
[quote=cunning stunt; 1210907]sorry slim, guess that i'm insensitive as well as cynical.
maybe that is why i have such a large collection of personal pics / vids. when i'm old and drooling into my malted milk, i can review them and remember that i used to have a use, apart from peeing, for the wrinkled old dangly bits between my legs.[/quote]
[QUOTE=X Man;1210904]I recommend a book called The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar. Old, but good stuff. I think you can find a copy online.[/QUOTE]Somebody put a free pdf copy of it on the AW thread a few months ago. I have only gotten as far as page 10.
[QUOTE=Westy; 1115911]I came across a link to this, from one of the Stickman website "reader submission" articles.
A very sharp, informative essay from years ago. Even more trenchant, in that it's written by a woman, Esther Vilar, an Argentinian by birth, who saw society in a very different light from the "politically correct".
Jackson, I hope you will be so kind as to leave this link intact.
[url=http://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/the_manipulated_man.pdf]The Manipulated Man[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blacklisted2010;1210863]Let this shit of yours go. It is not helping you or anyone else on this board to keep bantering on age disparities of western men and their Filipina wives or girlfriends. There is nothing inherently natural about men marrying women of the same age as themselves.[/QUOTE]
Whoa, calm down. You sound like a Filipina in tampo. Being hysterical does not render your argument more compelling.
If you'd actually bother to read my posts, you'd see that you and I are mostly in agreement.
The thesis of my previous posts was that economic need is a crucial factor in explaining sexual behavior of girls in the Philippines. This thesis fits comfortably with your discussion of agrarian societies and how girls mostly choose men for survival.
I advanced my thesis to contradict the often-cited fallacy here that girls in the Philippines somehow have a fetish for old white men.
Is there a Western bias in my posts? Of course! This is a Western forum visited overwhelmingly by Westerners. You complaining about Western bias here is like complaining about Filipino bias in a Filipino TV program. Besides, I'm guilty of Western bias just as you're guilty of Philippine bias. We're twin brothers basking in the same sin.
However, here's why my Western bias is more relevant than yours when discussing marriage. When a man marries and brings over a Filipina to the United States (or whatever Western country) , the marriage becomes subjected to Western cultural norms and pressures. And yes, in Western countries, marriages are more likely to fail if the difference in age between the partners is measured in decades instead of years.
Finally, something "unnatural" does not make it wrong or less worthy. I've never stated that marriages with huge age differences were wrong or evil. "Unnatural" is simply a phrase used to describe something outside a norm. Just as, it's "unnatural" to be born with an extra nipple. That does not make the person less worthy of life.
FurryFriend,
I think the simple translation of BlackListed2010's post would be "We're tire of reading your shit!" Regardless of what you, in your 30's, think of older men with younger filipinas, nobody cares. You trying to convince everyone on this board that young filipinas are not truly interested in older men will not change anything. You made your point. Now drop the subject and let all of us old men get back to our fantasies.
HW
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1211107]Whoa, calm down. You sound like a Filipina in tampo. Being hysterical does not render your argument more compelling.
If you'd actually bother to read my posts, you'd see that you and I are mostly in agreement. <snip for brevity [/QUOTE]You are right, Blacklisted is wrong.
I studied this issue of age at marriage several years ago. Age difference is the primary factor in selection of a mate, here in the US and elsewhere. Try being 50 here in the US and dating a 20 year old. The ONLY way you will be able to do it is if your wealthy or famous which works to counteract the age difference among CERTAIN women, mostly goldiggers, opportunists & prostitutes.
Further, the worse the economic situation in the country, the lesser the opportunities for women, the more they will accept a wider age span for their partner. Of course they are always free to cheat with a younger Filipino and they frequently do.
Also, anyone who thinks that a Filipina who marries you is not very prone to divorce you once she gets to the States is sadly mistaken and will only learn after being burned. This happens more frequently when the age difference is greater.
Blacklisted really sounds like he gets all his ideas out of history texts, not from the real world.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1211120]FurryFriend,
, . Now drop the subject and let all of us old men get back to our fantasies.
HW[/QUOTE]"Hear Hear ". From all the ROM's! (Rocking Old Men!)
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1211107]The thesis of my previous posts . economic need is a crucial factor . agrarian societies . often-cited fallacy . .[/QUOTE]I seem to have stumbled onto a community college sociology 101 course. Can someone please redirect me to the board where we discuss how to find and fuck young filipinas?
[QUOTE=Willie Wonker;1211188]I seem to have stumbled onto a community college sociology 101 course. Can someone please redirect me to the board where we discuss how to find and fuck young filipinas?[/QUOTE]Willie,
You are in the right forum. Utah, Nevada, and Arizona mormons and Pennsylvania, Ohio and Indiana Amish don't exhibit the age difference that FF thinks he sees only in the Phil. As they say, you can take a horse to the stream, but you can never make. Moving on.
I think I am addicted to the Phils now after only two trips there. Sure things are eff'd up there with the poverty and people looking for the easy way out instead of working for it. The women are passionate, full of intrigue and full borne "Malibog". The drama of some of the said women notwithstanding, I enjoy every bit of the Phils. Being back in the US is a drag. I can't wait for my next trip to the Phils or Thailand.
Someone mentioned that there is a famous bar in Manila where all the famous porn stars and other movie stars frequent. I never heard of such a place when I was in the Phils. Anyone here know of this place they speak of (I think they say it is in Malate)?
BL2K
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1211123]I studied this issue of age at marriage several years ago. Age difference is the primary factor in selection of a mate, here in the US and elsewhere. Try being 50 here in the US and dating a 20 year old. The ONLY way you will be able to do it is if your wealthy or famous which works to counteract the age difference among CERTAIN women, mostly goldiggers, opportunists & prostitutes. Further, the worse the economic situation in the country, the lesser the opportunities for women, the more they will accept a wider age span for their partner.[/QUOTE]Turdy you are full of shit. I'm absolutely positive that women only like Hugh Hefner for his good looks, wit, and charm. I'm sure his money and fame has nothing to do with it. Many times those same women want to go out with me because although I am dead broke, I am much closer to them in age.
Why? It might start out a bit slowly. Or maybe it's all common sense to anyone who has gone thru a divorce and also spends a lot of time at ISG.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1211016]Somebody put a free pdf copy of it on the AW thread a few months ago. I have only gotten as far as page 10.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Willie Wonker;1211188]I seem to have stumbled onto a community college sociology 101 course. Can someone please redirect me to the board where we discuss how to find and fuck young filipinas?[/QUOTE]What a unique and priceless resource we have here on the ISG Philippines Forums! Willie, you will find that frequently,
Fascinating diversions capture the interest of our more erudite members. Lots of 'find and fuck' information, but so much more!
So you can gain many insights worthy of college courses well above the 101 level. We are indeed fortunate that the sons of
Socrates continue to illuminate and that, for many here,"The unexamined life is not worth living."
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1211212]Turdy you are full of shit. I'm absolutely positive that women only like Hugh Hefner for his good looks, wit, and charm. I'm sure his money and fame has nothing to do with it. Many times those same women want to go out with me because although I am dead broke, I am much closer to them in age.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good laugh. I heard it was his 9 inch tongue.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1211123]Also, anyone who thinks that a Filipina who marries you is not very prone to divorce you once she gets to the States is sadly mistaken and will only learn after being burned. This happens more frequently when the age difference is greater.[/QUOTE]I see the Philippines as a ghetto adult Disneyland. The country sucks and things aren't what they appear to be. Just enjoy it, don't expect anything to be real and get your ass back home. Don't cling to the fantasy with some idiotic beliefs.
Funny that I'm attacked for my age. But my critics are the ones naive enough to believe the fantasy. There is no doubt that I'm wiser.
My trips to the Philippines also makes me value what I have back in the United States. Not only am I grateful for not living in a third-world squalor, but I know the people around me in America aren't trying to scheme something from me. I can have a drink with a buddy at a bar and not have to wonder about his ulterior motives. And this makes me view my relationships back at home in a different light and with a lot more appreciation.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1211384]I see the Philippines as a ghetto adult Disneyland. The country sucks and things aren't what they appear to be. Just enjoy it, don't expect anything to be real and get your ass back home. Don't cling to the fantasy with some idiotic beliefs.
Funny that I'm attacked for my age. But my critics are the ones naive enough to believe the fantasy. There is no doubt that I'm wiser.
My trips to the Philippines also makes me value what I have back in the United States. Not only am I grateful for not living in a third-world squalor, but I know the people around me in America aren't trying to scheme something from me. I can have a drink with a buddy at a bar and not have to wonder about his ulterior motives. And this makes me view my relationships back at home in a different light and with a lot more appreciation.[/QUOTE]With a attitude like that why come here. You are a typical guy with no idea and a weak ego. You bad mouth a place but you spend hours and thousands of dollars to fly just to say the USA is better for you.
Well pal I will save you your time and money! Do not come here, we do not need your arrogant clueless fat ass here.
Also 280 post and i can not find any photos posted.. I call fake...
Here's one for you guys that think younger always gets the girl, I have a friend who used to visit Thailand 3-4 times a year. I talked him into visiting the P. I. For a couple years and he finally did. His 2nd trip there he met a 19 year old who just started working at the club (her 1st day). He took her for a short time and ended up staying with her the whole time. Before he left for home he gave her enough money to live well for 4 months and then returned and brought her home. They now have a 10 year old boy. He was 65 and on SS when they met, like I said she was 19. They live here in Texas and they are the happiest couple I know. She did not marry for money. It kinda makes me happy because when I visit them every few months she always gives me a hug and a kiss on the cheek and tells me thank you for talking him into visiting the P. I.
I have plans to go there next year, I know I'll taste the younger lasses but I would rather find a lady around mid to late 30's- late 40's. There should be an abundance of them since everyone seems to choose the younger. LOL. Happy Mongering My Brothers.
Ako Namang,
Johnny
[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1211427]with a attitude like that why come here. You are a typical guy with no idea and a weak ego. You bad mouth a place but you spend hours and thousands of dollars to fly just to say the USA is better for you.[/QUOTE]
Hey, don't get emotional just because I OWNED the discussion here!
America is a better place to live. Philipines is an interesting place to visit. <--- These sentiments are probably echoed by 99% of American visitors to the Philippines (and probably 80% of domestic Filipinos).
This girl sent me a message on a dating site and I was wondering if anyone her knows her? D'Cups? Hahahaha. :D In one picture she is in the Radisson Blu.
Robb
[QUOTE=JohnnyO52;1211457]They now have a 10 year old boy. He was 65 and on SS when they met, like I said she was 19. They live here in Texas and they are the happiest couple I know. She did not marry for money.[/QUOTE]Johnny, nice!
[QUOTE=JohnnyO52;1211457]Here's one for you guys that think younger always gets the girl, I have a friend who used to visit Thailand 3-4 times a year. I talked him into visiting the P. I. For a couple years and he finally did. His 2nd trip there he met a 19 year old who just started working at the club (her 1st day). He took her for a short time and ended up staying with her the whole time. Before he left for home he gave her enough money to live well for 4 months and then returned and brought her home. They now have a 10 year old boy. He was 65 and on SS when they met, like I said she was 19. They live here in Texas and they are the happiest couple I know. She did not marry for money. It kinda makes me happy because when I visit them every few months she always gives me a hug and a kiss on the cheek and tells me thank you for talking him into visiting the P. I.[/QUOTE]And now for his next trick tell him to do it with a girl who has a regular job and has never worked at a club. Even if he was on Social Security that was $1200 more per month than she had any hopes of making. A guy driving down the street in a 1972 Ford Pinto sure looks good to the person who is walking.
[QUOTE=JohnnyO52;1211457]He took her for a short time and ended up staying with her the whole time. Before he left for home he gave her enough money to live well for 4 months and then returned and brought her home. They now have a 10 year old boy. He was 65 and on SS when they met, like I said she was 19. They live here in Texas and they are the happiest couple I know. She did not marry for money.[/QUOTE]
Don't you see the glaring irony of your post? You stated that she didn't marry for money. Yet, on her first day on the job, she meets a man who eventually gives her four months salary (she accepted it!) and a visa to the United States.
Don't get me wrong. It's great to hear that their marriage worked out. But aren't you dangerously implying that these happy endings are even remotely typical? What's the morale of your story, that gogo bars are ideal places for lonely senior citizens to find a teenage wife?
Just because something has happened doesn't mean it is likely to happen.
I have no pina gf over 30 I would be quite happy if every girl left me before she turns 30. I have 1 gf I would like to keep past 30 but would not care if she left tmrw.
Some girls stay with men for money some for love. I want to have Pino girls who stay for money I get what I want when I want and I know how much it will cost me. In these days of costly lawyers I stick to rent a Pino any day.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1211743]Don't you see the glaring irony of your post? You stated that she didn't marry for money. Yet, on her first day on the job, she meets a man who eventually gives her four months salary (she accepted it!) and a visa to the United States.
Don't get me wrong. It's great to hear that their marriage worked out. But aren't you dangerously implying that these happy endings are even remotely typical? What's the morale of your story, that gogo bars are ideal places for lonely senior citizens to find a teenage wife?
Just because something has happened doesn't mean it is likely to happen.[/QUOTE]Furry, you're looking at the situation logically. There is nothing remarkable about a 65 yr old buying and importing some provincial bar pussy into the US. Of course, she did it for the money. She was fucking for pesos when he found her. Nothing has changed except now she only has to fuck one long term elderly customer.
But logic is not at play when old men want to fuck teenage girls and take them home to show off as fuck dolls. They know that the odds are that she'll run off after learning her way around in the West. Yet, they'll play with the odds against them just like people who buy lottery tickets knowing that they stand a better chance of catching AIDS than hitting the jackpot. Each one swears that he will be the one to buy the winning ticket.
Wow! Those are some watermelons for sure. Much too big for my tastes.
Take a look at dia Gendale for something a little smaller, but looking rather inviting. X.
[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1211691]This girl sent me a message on a dating site and I was wondering if anyone her knows her? D'Cups? Hahahaha. In one picture she is in the Radisson Blu.
Robb[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1211743]What's the morale of your story, that gogo bars are ideal places for lonely senior citizens to find a teenage wife?
Just because something has happened doesn't mean it is likely to happen.[/QUOTE]In other word, it's the exception that proves the rule.
Guess who this sweety was chatting to while I was trying to interest her in some prime bratwurst? Conversation sort of went ' Yes honey, I'm at home thinking of you and lonely. Floods are keeping me at home (this is in Thailand). All my things are ruined. Can you send me some money to buy some new clothes. Oh, thank you darling, I love you long time'. The last bit on a rising note as I'm busy playing hide the sausage somewhere warm, dark and moist.
Poor old fool, sat at home dreaming of his sweetheart. I felt like piping up ' the only flood that your baby has seen recently is the flood of hot baby gravy that I pumped down her throat a short while ago'. But I don't as it's none of my business and I would hate to spoil his illusion. And this scenario has being played out for me before and for many others I am sure.
***Still having problem uploading photos. This new upload software is shit when upping from a tab. Have to imagine a naked thai babe on her phone while I assault her with a deadly weapon:D***
Only few weeks ago in Makati. The poor guy works on an oil rigg in siberia, sends 40 000 peso a month, calls using satelite phone which costs him god knows what. She was telling him how much she misses him while I was lubbing her ass with ky. She actually hanged up on him as I inserted only to answer him half an hour latter saying lines were bad.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1211836]In other word, it's the exception that proves the rule.
Guess who this sweety was chatting to while I was trying to interest her in some prime bratwurst? Conversation sort of went ' Yes honey, I'm at home thinking of you and lonely. Floods are keeping me at home (this is in Thailand). All my things are ruined. Can you send me some money to buy some new clothes. Oh, thank you darling, I love you long time'. The last bit on a rising note as I'm busy playing hide the sausage somewhere warm, dark and moist.
Poor old fool, sat at home dreaming of his sweetheart. I felt like piping up ' the only flood that your baby has seen recently is the flood of hot baby gravy that I pumped down her throat a short while ago'. But I don't as it's none of my business and I would hate to spoil his illusion. And this scenario has being played out for me before and for many others I am sure.
*Still having problem uploading photos. This new upload software is shit when upping from a tab. Have to imagine a naked thai babe on her phone while I assault her with a deadly weapon*[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mc Don;1211842]Only few weeks ago in Makati. The poor guy works on an oil rigg in siberia, sends 40 000 peso a month, calls using satelite phone which costs him god knows what. She was telling him how much she misses him while I was lubbing her ass with ky. She actually hanged up on him as I inserted only to answer him half an hour latter saying lines were bad.[/QUOTE]Hold on, waitamin, let me get this straight. Half an hour?
[QUOTE=JohnnyO52; 1211457]Here's one for you guys that think younger always gets the girl, I have a friend who used to visit Thailand 3-4 times a year. I talked him into visiting the P. I. For a couple years and he finally did. His 2nd trip there he met a 19 year old who just started working at the club (her 1st day). He took her for a short time and ended up staying with her the whole time. Before he left for home he gave her enough money to live well for 4 months and then returned and brought her home. They now have a 10 year old boy. He was 65 and on SS when they met, like I said she was 19. They live here in Texas and they are the happiest couple I know. She did not marry for money. It kinda makes me happy because when I visit them every few months she always gives me a hug and a kiss on the cheek and tells me thank you for talking him into visiting the P. I.
I have plans to go there next year, I know I'll taste the younger lasses but I would rather find a lady around mid to late 30's- late 40's. There should be an abundance of them since everyone seems to choose the younger. LOL. Happy Mongering My Brothers.
Ako Namang,
Johnny[/QUOTE]There are many older guys who married young girls and are happy. We think what does a 65 year old man has to offer 19 something girl through marriage?
For one thing it is security in life. All girls irrespective of which country they live in are looking for stability in their life more so from poor countries.
Whether the girl will stray or use the guy depends on her values in life.
This reminds me of a girl quite a few years ago I met here in US in a dance / bar club. She likes to drink and dance while her husband is a homebody. We saw each other few times but she will let me do everything except put.
My dick in her pussy. That she said is forbidden in her belief since she is married.
Many a girls are quite happy to stick to her values irrespective of the age of the husband. If they have a kid more so.
Philippines is one of the many places where poor girls overlook the age issue. If the girl is rich or has a well paying job we would not be talking about her here.
Wutsooiiber on DIA.
It would only be more blatant if she had her mouth open.
[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1211691]This girl sent me a message on a dating site and I was wondering if anyone her knows her? D'Cups? Hahahaha. In one picture she is in the Radisson Blu.
Robb[/QUOTE]WOW the tit shot in the green shirt is unreal! Who give a fuck if she is a BBW
[QUOTE=JPF; 1211893]Wutsooiiber on DIA.
It would only be more blatant if she had her mouth open.[/QUOTE]Ha, thats a profile all right
I tried to chat with some girls on Dia, but their profiles were fake.
I always ask their FB in their photos look young, but old photos and if you ask to chat with web cam, the most of them says he does not have it.
It 'better for a tourist to spend time chatting in Dia or go to MBC, Havana cafe and choose live?
[QUOTE=Hellas; 1212541]I tried to chat with some girls on Dia, but their profiles were fake.
I always ask their FB in their photos look young, but old photos and if you ask to chat with web cam, the most of them says he does not have it.
It 'better for a tourist to spend time chatting in Dia or go to MBC, Havana cafe and choose live?[/QUOTE]U need to work out if DIA is for you. Read about it how people do it and work it out. If you are there for short time then MBC is probably the way to go.
Could be interesting for a tit lover like myself.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/guada[/url]+marie. Html
[QUOTE=Barba; 1212629]Could be interesting for a tit lover like myself.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/guada[/url]
+marie. Html[/QUOTE]I could be wrong, but it looks like Mandaue foam (all bra, no tits) to me.
Robb
Yea you could be right, Robbaf. And she is a bit plump.
But this Manila girl deserves some attention!
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/paranoidprincess.html[/url]
"-last but never the least is SEX all day long. (each morning, noon, afternoon and midnight) I so love to be fucked"
Check out this profile on DIA.
Paranoidprincess
It is full of detail but read through until you get to the bottom of her list of what she loves.
I am sure someone can satisfy her.
[QUOTE=Barba; 1212918]Yea you could be right, Robbaf. And she is a bit plump.
But this Manila girl deserves some attention!
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/paranoidprincess.html[/url]
"-last but never the least is SEX all day long. (each morning, noon, afternoon and midnight) I so love to be fucked"[/QUOTE]The profile reads like she is a psycho. Think "Fatal Attraction." She might fu*k you, but you will never get rid of her because she chose you. Also, her English is better than 80-90% of the Filipinas on DIA. No pictures. Could be the profile was written by a troll to see who bites? Could be a man?
Just saying, be careful out there.
RK, great minds think alike.
B
She did have a picture when I posted her URL.
Psycho like so many other on DI and ISG. Yes of course the profile is fake in some ways.
What pinay list horse back riding, boat riding, repelling and gun shooting as primary sources of amusement (next to fucking)?
If anyone meets her, please report back. I am never in Manila, so she is not for me to probe.
B
Hey D Cups,
Check out Isla Heart on DIA, right up your alley.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/ISLA[/url]+HEART. Html
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1213128]Check out Isla Heart on DIA, right up your alley.[/QUOTE]Although you might not be up her's:
"'no retarded people pls
I want to meet a Male
With age from 25 to 40
And I want to meet for Friendship or Romance.
ELEGANT GUY. HANDSOME, CHIC AND ROMANTIC. SEXY BUT CLASSY. SOMEONE WHO I CAN BE PROUD OF"
[QUOTE=Barba; 1213046]RK, great minds think alike.
B[/QUOTE]You're right B.
I guess we both posted about paranoidprincess around 20 minutes apart. I never saw your post until now LOL.
Plump with decent tits in Angeles.
[url]http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5450903698[/url]
She is waiting for you D Cups.
I recently joined DIA and other dating sites after a gap and the number of scams have gone up ten fold compared to couple of years back. Now I know why the french guy went bonkers at the airport for his gf not showing up. Thanks to the white guys who can't seem to keep their small head in the pants for long. They are ruining it for everyone else. The new white guy is impatient, unreasonable, illogical to say the least. Think before you act. They never heard about it. They would easily give in for a sight of tits or now even legs and tongue or whatever.
Lets get this a balanced perspective. I"m an Indian and as you all know. Indians are not the most preferred choice for dating in South East Asia or frankly anywhere on earth with all our smelly curry ways. I know my boundaries. It was already as difficult to get laid before, now with scams it has become impossible to get laid so easily even in the PH. The Scam girls have become soo bold and confident that they have started hitting on Indians as well hahaha. With model looking super gorgeous women. Like the one posted here paranoidprincess. Hahaha want to bet.
Earlier, I never used to get super gorgeous women hitting on me. Now I get 5-6 messages a day. Hehehehe. Yeah good try. And the scams have become subtle too. Like the most gorgeous women on sites are always in MILF zone areas of Mindanao, because they know most would be too scared to travel there. So all they ask is for travel fare and they will come to Manila just to be with you. This is the scam I really believe the french guy fell for. And strangely, they never have cams or can't even call them but we can text them all we want.
The other scams are mobile load scam or taxi fare scam or hungry food scam if you are in Manila. So you get hit 3-4 thousand pesos. If you abroad. They will take you for cleaners. 5000 to 10, 000 dollars in a six months period.
90% of the guys are from west on online dating sites in Asia and I'm sure, many are getting cleaned up. As they say. There is born every minute. And you guys can't wait to give away your big charitable heart for that lovely asian ass in a third world country. I'm from a third world country and I have seen poverty. India is way poorer than PH. And your honey money is not helping any poor people in PH. So STOP f*Cking sending money to online dating girls.
You are ruining it for everyone else. As we Indians do in Pattaya sharing one drinks and girls with friends. See how crap that is for you. It feels the same for me. When you guys are becoming freeloader banks for these scam girls. Now I'm having really hard time judging who is right and who is wroung. I'm wasting considerable amount of time to weed out between good and bad.
There are so much valuable info from western guys in these forums like DragonSlayer, Cunning Stunt, choca monger, red kilt, X men, D cups, westcoasts, frebie fan. Etc. Who have been here for ever. But you newbie guys won't take that advice and read atleast 10 pages of ISG before landing in PH. You just think you have dollars and that will win. Guess what. The tables have turned. Instead of you being a butterfly to them. You are their cash cow. They milk you everyday and you don't even know it. Untill, they have sucked you dry.
The online dating scene has become horrible in PH, if it continues this way. In couple of years. I may have to go back using my hand again.
P. S No racial tone meant saying white guys. But who are Senior members in PH forum and lived in PH long enough know that most english speaking asian dating sites are frequented by western men. Are the number 1 victims of scams as well.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1213689]I recently joined DIA and other dating sites after a gap and the number of scams have gone up ten fold compared to couple of years back. Now I know why the french guy went bonkers at the airport for his gf not showing up. Thanks to the white guys who can't seem to keep their small head in the pants for long. They are ruining it for everyone else. The new white guy is impatient, unreasonable, illogical to say the least. Think before you act. They never heard about it. They would easily give in for a sight of tits or now even legs and tongue or whatever.
Lets get this a balanced perspective. I"m an Indian and as you all know. Indians are not the most preferred choice for dating in South East Asia or frankly anywhere on earth with all our smelly curry ways. I know my boundaries. It was already as difficult to get laid before, now with scams it has become impossible to get laid so easily even in the PH. The Scam girls have become soo bold and confident that they have started hitting on Indians as well hahaha. With model looking super gorgeous women. Like the one posted here paranoidprincess. Hahaha want to bet.
Earlier, I never used to get super gorgeous women hitting on me. Now I get 5-6 messages a day. Hehehehe. Yeah good try. And the scams have become subtle too. Like the most gorgeous women on sites are always in MILF zone areas of Mindanao, because they know most would be too scared to travel there. So all they ask is for travel fare and they will come to Manila just to be with you. This is the scam I really believe the french guy fell for. And strangely, they never have cams or can't even call them but we can text them all we want.
The other scams are mobile load scam or taxi fare scam or hungry food scam if you are in Manila. So you get hit 3-4 thousand pesos. If you abroad. They will take you for cleaners. 5000 to 10, 000 dollars in a six months period.
90% of the guys are from west on online dating sites in Asia and I'm sure, many are getting cleaned up. As they say. There is born every minute. And you guys can't wait to give away your big charitable heart for that lovely asian ass in a third world country. I'm from a third world country and I have seen poverty. India is way poorer than PH. And your honey money is not helping any poor people in PH. So STOP f*Cking sending money to online dating girls.
You are ruining it for everyone else. As we Indians do in Pattaya sharing one drinks and girls with friends. See how crap that is for you. It feels the same for me. When you guys are becoming freeloader banks for these scam girls. Now I'm having really hard time judging who is right and who is wroung. I'm wasting considerable amount of time to weed out between good and bad.
There are so much valuable info from western guys in these forums like DragonSlayer, Cunning Stunt, choca monger, red kilt, X men, D cups, westcoasts, frebie fan. Etc. Who have been here for ever. But you newbie guys won't take that advice and read atleast 10 pages of ISG before landing in PH. You just think you have dollars and that will win. Guess what. The tables have turned. Instead of you being a butterfly to them. You are their cash cow. They milk you everyday and you don't even know it. Untill, they have sucked you dry.
The online dating scene has become horrible in PH, if it continues this way. In couple of years. I may have to go back using my hand again.
P. S No racial tone meant saying white guys. But who are Senior members in PH forum and lived in PH long enough know that most english speaking asian dating sites are frequented by western men. Are the number 1 victims of scams as well.[/QUOTE]Being one of the newbies and a white guy I need to react on this one. I am in the Philippines for the first time and started out a couple of weeks before arrival via the dating sites. Now I am here for about 2 months and I found better ways to meet nice girls, especially in the provinces. When I use a dating site, I immediately block girls who ask me for money. I cannot comment on the fact that the number of online scammers is increasing since I am in this world for only a short period of time but I found out that quite a few of the girls on the online dating sites will ask for money the first time you chat with them. Obviously this approach must be working for them otherwise they would have given up already (well that is what my western mind is telling me).
For sure I don't know how it is for an Indian guy to get a nice girl here but for me, an average looking white guy in his thirties, it is a piece of cake although it is a bit of a hit and miss game. But I like the process, so I don't mind talking to someone for 5 minutes and then founding out that she is not interested. I am sure that if you dress nice look clean a lot of girls are interested in guys from other races as well, I met a black guy who is having the time of his life here.
One thing I want to share is the ways I found girls so far with my experience, maybe Starchild2012 can use this and have more fun in the Philippines.
1) Dating sites like DIA, CB, PK, lot of girls ask for money right away but quite a few can result in good sex without paying more than lunch and some taxi money. Especially in Manila I met a few goodies who I met several times and when I return I think to meet them again.
2) Social network sites like Facebook and Tagged, kind of the same as dating sites, it requires more time in the beginning but opens up a huge pool of girls if you include all their friends. Just set up an account and give it a try and filter out the ones who start asking for money right away.
3) Shopping malls, here I focus on the sales ladies and not on the girls walking around trying to make eye contact since most of these girls are (semi-) professionals I think and I prefer "normal" girls.
4) Busses and jeepneys, just make eye contact, smile and see what happens from there on. This is working surprisingly well after I left the cities and visited smaller places like Dumaguete, Iloilo, Ormoc etc. Just have some questions ready like which bus to take, where to have something small to eat, where to buy a drink, where to buy phone load etc. Most of the girls are very willing to help and you can tell by the body language soon enough if they are interested in more than that. One thing I learned is that it is better to approach girls who are alone instead of two girls or more. Also doing this with a girl who is together with a guy is not a good idea.
5) Shops in the smaller cities and villages, the girls working there can be really fun to spend time with and you can find a lot who are willing to meet after work. Just look at the fruit stalls, pharmacies, bakeries, etc. Just be careful with really small villages since everyone knows everyone there. Also it is handy to have a motorbike to move around and pick up the girl.
As you can see there are more ways to find nice girls than by only using dating sites. Scammers look for areas where the number of potential victims is high so if you can avoid these place (dating sites, tourist areas in Manila and Cebu, Angeles city) this is still a place where you can find a lot of hot willing young girls who love to give you a good work-out.
I would love to hear from other members who are using other places / means to find girls.
Cheers,
Bloomberg
[QUOTE=Barba; 1213519]Plump with decent tits in Angeles.
[url]http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=5450903698[/url]
She is waiting for you D Cups.[/QUOTE]That girl is really delicious looking. Yes, I like a nice skinny spinner, but those sexy plumpish girls really make my mouth water too!
RG
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1213689]90% of the guys are from west on online dating sites in Asia and I'm sure, many are getting cleaned up. As they say. There is born every minute. And you guys can't wait to give away your big charitable heart for that lovely asian ass in a third world country. I'm from a third world country and I have seen poverty. India is way poorer than PH. And your honey money is not helping any poor people in PH. So STOP f*Cking sending money to online dating girls.
You are ruining it for everyone else.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious. But I'll assume the latter.
C'mon, stop blaming Western guys. Older white guys have been the scamming Pinay's cash cow for decades. It's just the internet and dating sites have made scamming more international and efficient in recent years.
Keep in mind the Koreans are dropping major bank in Angeles City and increasingly in Cebu and Manila. It has gotten to the point where Philippine tourist police are learning Korean. As Asia becomes more propserous, you will see guys from rich Pacific Rim countries becoming more "preferred" by scammers, legit pros and legit non-pros seeking marriage. Most Filipinas live in poverty and they're simply going where the money is.
I do have to say, one good thing about most Asian mongers is, they may drop huge wads of cash for sex, but they rarely Western Union money from far away simply out of compassion. Nevertheless, because it only takes a few clicks of the mouse, scammers will try their luck on fleeceing Asians too.
Ultimately, like shopping for anything else, it's the consumer who needs to use his brains instead of his penis and not be so impatient or trusting. When I was in Cebu last month, I've learned that dating sites are insanely inefficient in meeting girls. But as long as you follow simple tips, like never sending money from far away, you will NEVER be victim of a scam. Whenever I hear about a guy getting cleaned out or the women who runs once she gets her American visa, my sympathy is never with the guy. Bad consumer choices lead to bad experiences.
I like the tips Bloomberg gave. And I'll add another. Never have long chats and webcam sessions with the ladies. The longer you chat, the likelier they'll ask for money. Even legit ones will get tempted to ask once she feels comfortable with you. The web cam should only be for verifying her appearance. Once you do, log off and invite her to meet in-person once you've landed in the Philippines.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1213689]I recently joined DIA.[/QUOTE]I never had this problem really but I see an increase in people adding me only to pretend they are horny and wanting me click on a link, register my credit card "for age verification" and then see then undress. This is the web sites behind these campings that are injecting new money into these annoyingly unintelligent recruitment attempts.
Being extremely white I find it odd that you Starchild as an Indian are targeted for scam attempts so often, while I have virtually non asking me for money on chats or other social media. Is it perhaps the other way around? Some newly rich Indian dudes trying to qualify for some quality pinay pussy, thus sending money, creating a name for Indians as the new golden calf to milk. Pinays are IMHO rather inclined to categorize, and I find it unlikely that they would consider all men similar instead of generalizing in the good old pinay fashion."Americans are like this","Indians are like that", and so on. If a friend got money from a German once and an aunt has a German husband who sent the family money for a pig roast one Christmas, the girl will most certainly believe in the existence of statistical support for all Germans being generous. Or as one girl exhorted in her DIA profile: "No way to Norway man".
Should worst comes to worst I guess our monger aid could always be redirected to the poor parts of India instead. Hell, I always did find Indian girls either extremely ugly or incredibly f*cking astonishingly beautiful. Few are in between these two extremes. I still always look for Indian girls in for example Singapore and so far only had one with the Indian look.
But being one of the suckers that fell for the "my baby is starving"-story once (or maybe even twice) , I agree. Us whities often needs to harden up, learn from our eastern brothers and stop trying to qualify for females all the time. It is a cultural brain wash to consider yourself inferior to the female, thus always trying to deserve her beaver. But I can assure all you virgin mongers in doubt. It can be washed away by persistent and frequent pussy pounding in any poor and many times dishearteningly unequal country. Look at Barba's steep development curve from well shaved romantic Casanova to nihilistic pervo.
B.
[QUOTE=Jack Burton;1201029]Challenging (and most profitable way) is to write up some equations that indicate a trend, and follow trend as long as it hasn't gone stale, as determined by other equations. Do not try to invest based purely on purchasing power parity or debt / deficit levels. That way leads to one's own deficit or debt. If you watch it long enough, you will find patterns.[/QUOTE]I am still trying to decrypt this, and at the same time notice that trade is just +-0 for me normally. I make good money in one end to lose it on some other dive somewhere. My work serves me good with a stable income that allows me to care for my responsibilities, save and travel. But where to save is the big question. Maybe just buying some houses as a friend retired in Cebu did. Or just waste it all on pussy and make new money as I go. This trading charade is not for me I think, not unless I stop doing what I make money from now, only to dive into trade and transactions instead. Doubt that the result will be any better then the current work.
B.
[QUOTE=Bloomberg;1213705]Being one of the newbies and a white guy I need to react on this one. I am in the Philippines for the first time and started out a couple of weeks before arrival via the dating sites. Now I am here for about 2 months and I found better ways to meet nice girls, especially in the provinces. When I use a dating site, I immediately block girls who ask me for money. I cannot comment on the fact that the number of online scammers is increasing since I am in this world for only a short period of time but I found out that quite a few of the girls on the online dating sites will ask for money the first time you chat with them. Obviously this approach must be working for them otherwise they would have given up already (well that is what my western mind is telling me).[/QUOTE]All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. But today she is at it again. Be CAREFUL.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3677994[/url]
It began as usual. She wrote in the profile she is from Manila, when I said I'm too, she said now she has gone to the province to be with her mom and then began the usual back and forth drama. How she lost her mobile and she is poor but she like me very much and she will switch on the cam later as her mom is sitting with her. I knew it was a scam but went in anyway.
I decided to fish and went over board in saying, that I will send her money to come to manila and I'm sending her 15, 000 pesos for plane ticket, one mobile phone and some pocket money. She was so confident, she fell for it and gave away her real name and address and it was what you know in Manila.
Leilany delos Reyes
6035 Tatalon st ugong valenzuala city.
Manila.
Her yahoo I'd khazzie888.
She was waiting for like 3 hrs to get the money, all the while saying, its her aunties home. I fooled around and made her go to mhullier office thrice to confirm. Finally, I said. My Filipino friends from QC are coming directly to her home to give money in hand as you have not received it yet. She started to panic. I opened her up and threaten to visit her home. Her last message was. I just had the fake I'd. Ok bye.
I saw her live again today, so obviously, its working for her. What more can we do but to warn others. If I go to Valenzuela to confront her. I will return in a body bag LOL.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1213864]Honestly, I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious. But I'll assume the latter.
C'mon, stop blaming Western guys. Older white guys have been the scamming Pinay's cash cow for decades. It's just the internet and dating sites have made scamming more international and efficient in recent years.[/QUOTE]I agree. More and more scammer don't see any distinction anymore. They are after everyone now a days.
[QUOTE=Barba; 1213870]Being extremely white I find it odd that you Starchild as an Indian are targeted for scam attempts so often, while I have virtually non asking me for money on chats or other social media. Is it perhaps the other way around? Some newly rich Indian dudes trying to qualify for some quality pinay pussy, thus sending money, creating a name for Indians as the new golden calf to milk. Pinays are IMHO rather inclined to categorize, and I find it unlikely that they would consider all men similar instead of generalizing in the good old pinay fashion."Americans are like this","Indians are like that", and so on. If a friend got money from a German once and an aunt has a German husband who sent the family money for a pig roast one Christmas, the girl will most certainly believe in the existence of statistical support for all Germans being generous. Or as one girl exhorted in her DIA profile: "No way to Norway man".
B.[/QUOTE]Yep. It could be that. Never thought like that way. More and more Indians are traveling to south east Asia and feeling it easy to get laid and in process getting cleaned up as well. I think Indians are more vulnerable in that, they know english as well, so chatting won't be an issue unlike for koreans and japanese folks. So ya Indians are also the easy target now a days. Thanks
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1213864]Never have long chats and webcam sessions with the ladies. The longer you chat, the likelier they'll ask for money. Even legit ones will get tempted to ask once she feels comfortable with you. The web cam should only be for verifying her appearance. Once you do, log off and invite her to meet in-person once you've landed in the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with this, keep it short and simple and only decide to invest your time and perhaps some money once you have met the lady in person.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1213996]I knew it was a scam but went in anyway.
I decided to fish and went over board in saying, that I will send her money to come to manila and I'm sending her 15, 000 pesos for plane ticket, one mobile phone and some pocket money. She was so confident, she fell for it and gave away her real name and address and it was what you know in Manila.
She was waiting for like 3 hrs to get the money, all the while saying, its her aunties home. I fooled around and made her go to mhullier office thrice to confirm.[/QUOTE]This reminds of something I've been planning on doing.
There is an online vigilante community called scambaiters. Scambaiters would go onto dating websites hoping to attract scammers. If he encounters a scammer, he would pretend to give money. But in reality, he would try wasting as much of her time and resources as possible. Often, he would make her do ridiculous things like get her to take unflattering photos of herself or get her on a wild goose chase to get the money. Sounds very much like what you did.
Most of the time, scambaiters do it simply to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the girl hoping it would deter her from scamming others. But sometimes, he would collect personal data and turn them into her local authorities.
Scambaiting started in the mid 90s in response to those innocuous Nigerian bank scams. In one famous case that appeared in newspapers, a scambaiter was able to get some Nigerian scammers to act in a YouTube video for some "film audition". The scamabaiter had convinced them that he's a film director.
Not only is scambaiting a way to turn the tables on the scammers, but I can see how it'd be quite entertaining. A month ago, I signed up on 419 Eater ([url]www.419eater.com[/url]) , an online scambaiter community. You can easily find other communities by doing a Google search.
i heard from one of my phil friends of a foreign friend of her bf who has suffered the classic scam in the last few days. to make sure people are on their guard i think its worth giving some details.
us guys starts chatting to babe on one of one of the dating sites. she claims she's 18.
she turns up at his hotel with her "aunty". aunty assures him she is 18 and leaves them both.
10 minutes later her "dad" turns up accompanied by 5 police guys. says she is really 17 and has consequently been "raped".
to cut a long story short he avoids a trip to jail by paying p12k + p15k fee for a lawyer.
now left phil vowing never to return.
take care guys.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1213996]All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed.[/QUOTE]You are a bad man Starchild. Good job!
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1214193]This reminds of something I've been planning on doing.
There is an online vigilante community called scambaiters. Scambaiters would go onto dating websites hoping to attract scammers. If he encounters a scammer, he would pretend to give money. But in reality, he would try wasting as much of her time and resources as possible. Often, he would make her do ridiculous things like get her to take unflattering photos of herself or get her on a wild goose chase to get the money. Sounds very much like what you did.
Most of the time, scambaiters do it simply to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the girl hoping it would deter her from scamming others. But sometimes, he would collect personal data and turn them into her local authorities.
Scambaiting started in the mid 90s in response to those innocuous Nigerian bank scams. In one famous case that appeared in newspapers, a scambaiter was able to get some Nigerian scammers to act in a YouTube video for some "film audition". The scamabaiter had convinced them that he's a film director.
Not only is scambaiting a way to turn the tables on the scammers, but I can see how it'd be quite entertaining. A month ago, I signed up on 419 Eater (
[url]www.419eater.com[/url]
) , an online scambaiter community. You can easily find other communities by doing a Google search.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Yeah. It will act as a deterrent to easily scam good guys.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1214208]You are a bad man Starchild. Good job![/QUOTE]As she came back to her old ways the very next day. I think I let her out easily. It did not had any effects on her. Next time. She won't be soo lucky LOL. And also it seems to be a good way to kill time ...:)
[quote=greglondon; 1214195]i heard from one of my phil friends of a foreign friend of her bf who has suffered the classic scam in the last few days. to make sure people are on their guard i think its worth giving some details.
us guys starts chatting to babe on one of one of the dating sites. she claims she's 18.
she turns up at his hotel with her "aunty". aunty assures him she is 18 and leaves them both.
10 minutes later her "dad" turns up accompanied by 5 police guys. says she is really 17 and has consequently been "raped".
to cut a long story short he avoids a trip to jail by paying p12k + p15k fee for a lawyer.
now left phil vowing never to return.
take care guys.[/quote]i guess this guy got off really cheap with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge with "****". maybe she is not **** after all.
if you are not sure of the age ask the hotel security to check. never entertain anybody with a auntie tagging along.
this visit to cebu i met a fellow american guy at the casino. his story is that he came to phi long time ago started living with a girl and had a child. when he wanted to go back to usa for a visit his gf filed a police complaint saying this guy may never return and suing for child support. so he was arrested and put in jail. at trial his passport was confirep001ed and he was asked to post $3000 dollars bond which he did. $2000 dollars bond was only for his release from jail and release of his passport. the case is still in court after 3 years and he is stuck. the story is from his present gf is that he is not blacklisted by nbi and can fly out. he does not want to loose the $3000.
he said he really took care of the girl and the baby very well and all he wanted is to visit usa and go back staying with her. obviously she had another local bf. now he is fighting through the court and court is very very slow. his gf says the baby is not his and the tests show it. however the court is saying since she lived with him and took care of him the girl deserves compensation which is yet to be determined. child support case has turned out to be co habitation support case. i did not know if you live with a phi girl long time she can sue you for compensation. i can understand if a child fathered by the person involved.
maybe some members can really enlighten this aspect of phi law if it is true.
moral of the story is never make a baby with the girl and stay in the country too long. justce system is really screwed up.
Big mistake living with a girl and her having a baby while they are under the same roof. The courts are slow as they just want to see how much he will offer. The know he had $3000.
That's the thing about this place stuff like this happens all the time not every one posts here and it never makes the news.
The place is all about money and jealousy. They even export jealousy and import money.
[quote=sammon; 1214405]i guess this guy got off really cheap with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge with "****". maybe she is not **** after all.
if you are not sure of the age ask the hotel security to check. never entertain anybody with a auntie tagging along.
this visit to cebu i met a fellow american guy at the casino. his story is that he came to phi long time ago started living with a girl and had a child. when he wanted to go back to usa for a visit his gf filed a police complaint saying this guy may never return and suing for child support. so he was arrested and put in jail. at trial his passport was confirep001ed and he was asked to post $3000 dollars bond which he did. $2000 dollars bond was only for his release from jail and release of his passport. the case is still in court after 3 years and he is stuck. the story is from his present gf is that he is not blacklisted by nbi and can fly out. he does not want to loose the $3000.
he said he really took care of the girl and the baby very well and all he wanted is to visit usa and go back staying with her. obviously she had another local bf. now he is fighting through the court and court is very very slow. his gf says the baby is not his and the tests show it. however the court is saying since she lived with him and took care of him the girl deserves compensation which is yet to be determined. child support case has turned out to be co habitation support case. i did not know if you live with a phi girl long time she can sue you for compensation. i can understand if a child fathered by the person involved.
maybe some members can really enlighten this aspect of phi law if it is true.
moral of the story is never make a baby with the girl and stay in the country too long. justce system is really screwed up.[/quote]under article 147 of the family code your live-in fucklet has the right to sue for compensation. even in the philippines there is no such thing as "free" poo-say if the girl and her family decides to make you pay for your forwardness. see article 147 of the family code below:
"art. 147. when a man and a woman who are capacitated to marry each other, live exclusively with each other as husband and wife without the benefit of marriage or under a void marriage, their wages and salaries shall be owned by them in equal shares and the property acquired by both of them through their work or industry shall be governed by the rules on co-ownership.
in the absence of proof to the contrary, properties acquired while they lived together shall be presumed to have been obtained by their joint efforts, work or industry, and shall be owned by them in equal shares. for purposes of this article, a party who did not participate in the acquisition by the other party of any property shall be deemed to have contributed jointly in the acquisition thereof if the former's efforts consisted in the care and maintenance of the family and of the household."
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1213996]All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. But today she is at it again. Be CAREFUL.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3677994[/url]
Thanks[/QUOTE]She is not fully cheating, she declares in her occupation "bank, finance, real estate" ROLF, so she must have collected quite some money from punters! LOL
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1214420]Under Article 147 of the Family Code your live-in fucklet has the right to sue for compensation. Even in the Philippines there is no such thing as "free" poo-say if the girl and her family decides to make you pay for your forwardness. See Article 147 of the Family Code below:
"Art. 147. When a man and a woman who are capacitated to marry each other, live exclusively with each other as husband and wife without the benefit of marriage or under a void marriage, their wages and salaries shall be owned by them in equal shares and the property acquired by both of them through their work or industry shall be governed by the rules on co-ownership.
In the absence of proof to the contrary, properties acquired while they lived together shall be presumed to have been obtained by their joint efforts, work or industry, and shall be owned by them in equal shares. For purposes of this Article, a party who did not participate in the acquisition by the other party of any property shall be deemed to have contributed jointly in the acquisition thereof if the former's efforts consisted in the care and maintenance of the family and of the household."[/QUOTE]Thanks CM. Great information to have.
WC
This is a great series of posts that all newbies should read before getting on a plane to come here. It wouldn't hurt some of the more experienced guys to read these either. The fact is that this is a third world country, at or near the bottom of most international rankings of just about everything, and it's not getting any better. It's got no rule of law, and it rates at or near the top of every corruption index published for the past several years. If that's not enough to make foreigners extremely wary, then they must be blinded by the apparent accessibility of all the young, nubile stuff floating around.
The fact is though, that even living here and being aware of all of the potential scams, and all of the corruption, there's no foolproof way of avoiding becoming a victim other than to strike the country from your list of destinationns. There's simply no total indemnity for anyone.
GE
[quote=sammon; 1214405]i guess this guy got off really cheap with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge with "****". maybe she is not **** after all.
if you are not sure of the age ask the hotel security to check. never entertain anybody with a auntie tagging along.[/quote]i agree that he should probably regard p12k+p15k legal as a lucky escape. from what i have heard p40k is more likely if he gets taken down to the police station. i suspect it.
is all a question of the maximum they think they can get away with. they may have been reluctant to take him to the police station because the girl wasn't really 17 as you suggest or they may just have figured that it would involve sharing the proceeds with more voracious mouths.
the point for people to remember is that what really happened in this type of situation is to a large extent irrelevant. it's a question of what the girl can semi credibly say has happened as the police and any one else who gets involved will just see it as an opportunity for another payday.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1214508]This is a great series of posts that all newbies should read before getting on a plane to come here. It wouldn't hurt some of the more experienced guys to read these either. The fact is that this is a third world country, at or near the bottom of most international rankings of just about everything, and it's not getting any better. It's got no rule of law, and it rates at or near the top of every corruption index published for the past several years. If that's not enough to make foreigners extremely wary, then they must be blinded by the apparent accessibility of all the young, nubile stuff floating around.[/QUOTE]The country is indeed a cesspool of corruption and poverty. But that's not the only reason why so many fall into scams.
Another factor is the monger himself. In the Philippines, it's easy to confuse attention with attraction. Many guys there get tons of text messages and DIA contacts and it's easy for him (especially newbies) to become overconfident in his looks or demeanor. He hears stories about how girls love foreign guys...about how local Pinoys are scummy, unromantic and abusive. With an inflated ego, he now thinks he's Mr Brad Pitt who knows how to treat girls right and that the girls genuinely care for him. In truth, most girls really see him as just another dumbass ATM machine. He's not going to suspect anything until the cops show up to make a withdrawal.
Visitors need to accept the fact that there is significant risk in being a sex tourist in the Philippines, especially involving girls under 21 years old. You can mitigate your risk by sticking to large bars in Angeles City and Manila. Think of the higher barfines as an insurance premium.
I had a message today from a girl on DIA (33 year old) who had seen my profile on DIA.
HER: "Hi. I hope we can meet sometime. I like to meet you for some fun but I hope you will reward me as it is my only way to earn cash. Here is my CP number and my YM address"
ME: "Well sure. Let's meet next time I am in (name of city)".
HER: "I am looking forward to meeting you soon and have a good fuck"
I wonder how many guys are on her "to do" list?
Hi, new here, a lot interesting reports and advice.
I see most people mention DIA has any body used Find Love Asia in the same way, any comment would be appreciated, cheer.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1214620]The country is indeed a cesspool of corruption and poverty. But that's not the only reason why so many fall into scams.
Another factor is the monger himself. In the Philippines, it's easy to confuse attention with attraction. Many guys there get tons of text messages and DIA contacts and it's easy for him (especially newbies) to become overconfident in his looks or demeanor. He hears stories about how girls love foreign guys. About how local Pinoys are scummy, unromantic and abusive. With an inflated ego, he now thinks he's Mr Brad Pitt who knows how to treat girls right and that the girls genuinely care for him. In truth, most girls really see him as just another dumbass ATM machine. He's not going to suspect anything until the cops show up to make a withdrawal.
Visitors need to accept the fact that there is significant risk in being a sex tourist in the Philippines, especially involving girls under 21 years old. You can mitigate your risk by sticking to large bars in Angeles City and Manila. Think of the higher barfines as an insurance premium.[/QUOTE]I certainly think on needs to be extra cautious with DIA girls who give their age as 18. In the Phils many girls will describe themselves as 18 when what they mean is "running 18" ie 17 now and 18 next birthday. As has been said many times before having anything to do with girls under 18 is completely opening yourself up to the mercy of the Phils police-legal system the main purpose of which is to extort as much money as possible from anyone who can be accused of transgressing any law.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1214620]Visitors need to accept the fact that there is significant risk in being a sex tourist in the Philippines, especially involving girls under 21 years old. You can mitigate your risk by sticking to large bars in Angeles City and Manila. Think of the higher barfines as an insurance premium.[/QUOTE]I can only agree. Anyone that ventures out of Angeles and Manila is in fact balancing on the edge of his stay out of jail-card. It is just not worth the risk. Good we all focus on the risks. I think it is safer to stay at home and jerk off before we turn on the TV, but IF that is not an option one should always stick to paths well tramped by other risk takers / maniacs.
Yesterday there was a wasp flying by me INSIDE my house, even if it is November. I realized how fragile life is. If that wasp stung me, and I turned out to be violently allergic, I could have died there on the floor. Scary. Makes me shiver still.
B.
[QUOTE=Kizaat; 1214718]Hi, new here, a lot interesting reports and advice.
I see most people mention DIA has any body used Find Love Asia in the same way, any comment would be appreciated, cheer.[/QUOTE]Waste of time for me.
Almost all women on that site are seeking marriage.
My profile specifically says "not looking for a wife", and it did not get any takers.
The same profile on DIA gets 10 hits each day.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1214954]Waste of time for me.
QUOTE]
Agreed. Tried for a few days for my last visit. One of them even suggested I come over to her house / shack to meet the whole fam for the first "date". Did not bother to continue with that site after couple of days and had much better luck with Pinalove.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1214508]The fact is that this is a third world country, at or near the bottom of most international rankings of just about everything, and it's not getting any better.[/QUOTE]Funnily enough, I read yesterday that The Philippines is ranked No 8 in the world for gender equality, well above other Asian countries. Maybe one of the ranking parameters is 'ability of the female to screw the male', something Pinays are famously adept at.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1215036]Funnily enough, I read yesterday that The Philippines is ranked No 8 in the world for gender equality, well above other Asian countries. Maybe one of the ranking parameters is 'ability of the female to screw the male', something Pinays are famously adept at.[/QUOTE]Shock, horror, how cynical some readers are. Filipinas are really sweet. You mean we don't all share the same opinion about these butter wouldn't melt in their mouth lasses?
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1215036]Funnily enough, I read yesterday that The Philippines is ranked No 8 in the world for gender equality, well above other Asian countries. Maybe one of the ranking parameters is 'ability of the female to screw the male', something Pinays are famously adept at.[/QUOTE]I chuckled when I read this in the newspaper too CS. Newshounds clutch desperately at any thing which shows the Phils in a positive light (it is why Manny Pacquiao is so revered and treated like a God, even if he is a midget boxer).
It's called 'fiddling with numbers" and the index uses quite strange indicators to rank countries.
From my experience the Philippines is a very long way behind, for example, Australia in gender equity in the factors that impinge on my daily life and in my work. Another interesting thing is that boys are performing way below girls on almost all school indicators and there will need to be some drastic action taken to correct this imbalance soon.
[QUOTE=Toronto; 1214957]
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1214954]Waste of time for me.
QUOTE]
Agreed. Tried for a few days for my last visit. One of them even suggested I come over to her house / shack to meet the whole fam for the first "date". Did not bother to continue with that site after couple of days and had much better luck with Pinalove.[/QUOTE]For those of us who are simply looking for GFE sex, and not marriage, what do you experts think the best sites are other than DIA? I have tried Filipinacupid. Com and get far too many hits from the ladies. But I sense they are all looking for marriage rather than a nice meal, a soft bed and a hard fcuk (also, its a pay site, so until I am certain it is worthwhile, I cannot see paying).
[QUOTE=Forest; 1215129]
[QUOTE=Toronto; 1214957]I sense they are all looking for marriage rather than a nice meal, a soft bed and a hard fcuk[/QUOTE]I wonder why? There obviously must be something wrong with them.
I was attacked by a cockroach just the other day!
[QUOTE=Barba; 1214753]I can only agree. Anyone that ventures out of Angeles and Manila is in fact balancing on the edge of his stay out of jail-card. It is just not worth the risk. Good we all focus on the risks. I think it is safer to stay at home and jerk off before we turn on the TV, but IF that is not an option one should always stick to paths well tramped by other risk takers / maniacs.
Yesterday there was a wasp flying by me INSIDE my house, even if it is November. I realized how fragile life is. If that wasp stung me, and I turned out to be violently allergic, I could have died there on the floor. Scary. Makes me shiver still.
B.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Forest; 1215129]
[QUOTE=Toronto; 1214957]For those of us who are simply looking for GFE sex, and not marriage, what do you experts think the best sites are other than DIA? I have tried Filipinacupid. Com and get far too many hits from the ladies. But I sense they are all looking for marriage rather than a nice meal, a soft bed and a hard fcuk (also, its a pay site, so until I am certain it is worthwhile, I cannot see paying).[/QUOTE]They are looking for nice meal, soft bed, air-con and a hard fuck. Do not believe them when they say they are looking for marriage. That is the mantra they tell to everyone before hard fuck.
They are certainly looking for a sponsor who will support them if not marriage. They know very well that very few encounters result in marriage or sponsorship. If they line up enough sponsors their life is made atleast for a short while.
Experiences if you decide to meet varies from dud or a delight and anywhere in between. Ofcourse money is always involved unless you con her into believing you are going for long term relationship including marriage.
Very rarely you will find somebody who will fuck your brains out with no money.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1215150][QUOTE=Forest; 1215129]They are looking for nice meal, soft bed, air-con and a hard fuck. Do not believe them when they say they are looking for marriage. That is the mantra they tell to everyone before hard fuck.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more. I am looking for unlimited wealth when I work, but I will settle for a decent salary.
Often naive and childish minds are filling these profiles with data that reflect their ideal scenario, but also these girls knows that life is a constant trade off.
Forest; DIA, Tagged, Facebook, etc. Just hit the free social forums and free sites like DIA, and you will soon have more jugs than you can juggle in a couple of weeks. If you still don not find anyone open minded enough, you can always tell the girls that you just got out of a relation and are not ready to get serious, but that you still want to meet a girlfriend (we are talking about the wider, Asian / Latin / African definition of "girlfriend" here).
X Man, that is horrible. These animals will cause infections and limbs can fall off. You should immediately head for Angeles. If you are there already, you should get on the first banana boat home where there are no, or at least fewer, cockroaches. I am masturbating in a wet suit at the moment. This feels safe for now.
Barba
[QUOTE=X Man;1215141]I was attacked by a cockroach just the other day![/QUOTE]Are you sure that it wasn't making a move on you?
Watch those DIA profiles guys for if you didn't already know, they lie like a 50 peso Baclaran watch. Just come across one from a wild. 3 holer with whom I enjoyed several great sessions earlier this year. She was 2 months pregnant at this point by her British boyfriend. After ditching her, I apparently metamorphosed into a 24/7 textmate agony aunt and putative (and happily eternally offline) ATM machine.
She is back home in Mindanao now, chastened and sans boyfriend (did one!) but with an infant child. And her profile is so full of 'simple woman looking for a good man' crap that would melt even Chocha Mongers steely old heart. She is an intelligent (graduate) and fine looking woman so some poor mug is bound to fall for the damsel in distress line and, unaware of her chequered past, will marry her and scoot her off to Dreamsville, Ohio. Here he will quickly discover that far from being simple, she is in fact a manipulative, scheming ***** who only cares for the filthy lucre and will proceed to clinically bleed him dry. Good luck to her (and more to him who is blissfully unaware of the relentless train wreck bearing down on him).
We are all big boys here so I am not going to identify her but here is a photo of her in pre-stretchmark days.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1215129]I sense they are all looking for marriage rather than a nice meal, a soft bed and a hard fcuk.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=David_33;1215131]I wonder why? There obviously must be something wrong with them.[/QUOTE]David's sarcasm aside, I like the semi-pros and the "non-pros" the best and I am continuously looking for this type. I am not foolish enough to believe that a 21 year old girl who wants me for a lover has no financial motivation.
Tagged has always worked well for Dominican girls, so I guess it is even more likely to work well in the Philippines.
Cockroaches in Japan can fly, at least when they are small. Then the Godzilla gene kicks in and they get huge. But not the wasy CS depicts. Is that a UK roach in the picture? Well, you must be happy that at least one UK species has above average endowment.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1215391]Are you sure that it wasn't making a move on you?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1214508]This is a great series of posts that all newbies should read before getting on a plane to come here. It wouldn't hurt some of the more experienced guys to read these either. The fact is that this is a third world country, at or near the bottom of most international rankings of just about everything, and it's not getting any better. It's got no rule of law, and it rates at or near the top of every corruption index published for the past several years. If that's not enough to make foreigners extremely wary, then they must be blinded by the apparent accessibility of all the young, nubile stuff floating around.
The fact is though, that even living here and being aware of all of the potential scams, and all of the corruption, there's no foolproof way of avoiding becoming a victim other than to strike the country from your list of destinationns. There's simply no total indemnity for anyone.
GE[/QUOTE]Thanks to Chocha M. For that great quote from Flip code. Very scary and useful considering I have been thinking of shacking up with some of my chat friends.
As to the above post, I think the only way is to (when in Rome.) do as Filipinos do, be equally corrupt and insulate yourself with friends in high places. Thats how the Filipinos get out of jams, everything is based on who you know and reciprocity of favors, not on such ridiculous concepts of justice or fairness.
As to how the average Porinor is going to obtain such friends and status, your guess is as good as mine.
[quote=starchild2012; 1213996]all great points thanks. something is working for the scammers. i was soo pissed yesterday. i went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. but today she is at it again. be careful.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showprofile/id/3677994[/url]
it began as usual. she wrote in the profile she is from manila, when i said i'm too, she said now she has gone to the province to be with her mom and then began the usual back and forth drama. how she lost her mobile and she is poor but she like me very much and she will switch on the cam later as her mom is sitting with her. i knew it was a scam but went in anyway.
i decided to fish and went over board in saying, that i will send her money to come to manila and i'm sending her 15, 000 pesos for plane ticket, one mobile phone and some pocket money. she was so confident, she fell for it and gave away her real name and address and it was what you know in manila.
leilany delos reyes
6035 tatalon st ugong valenzuala city.
manila.
her yahoo i'd khazzie888.
she was waiting for like 3 hrs to get the money, all the while saying, its her aunties home. i fooled around and made her go to mhullier office thrice to confirm. finally, i said. my filipino friends from qc are coming directly to her home to give money in hand as you have not received it yet. she started to panic. i opened her up and threaten to visit her home. her last message was. i just had the fake i'd. ok bye.
i saw her live again today, so obviously, its working for her. what more can we do but to warn others. if i go to valenzuela to confront her. i will return in a body bag lol.
i agree. more and more scammer don't see any distinction anymore. they are after everyone now a days.
yep. it could be that. never thought like that way. more and more indians are traveling to south east asia and feeling it easy to get laid and in process getting cleaned up as well. i think indians are more vulnerable in that, they know english as well, so chatting won't be an issue unlike for koreans and japanese folks. so ya indians are also the easy target now a days. thanks[/quote]what i once did on chat, not with a filipina but with a nigerian broad who had some bs story and was eager to get my bank account information is that i told her i would send her money western union. just when she is ready and eager to receive the confirmation number, i'd fire up my latest yahoo booter program from a high speed network and bomb the sh*t out of her. she would then start yelling loudly "damn hackers" since her computer froze up and she had to reboot several times. i did this about 3 or 4 times before she got suspicious and then i started coming on with really raunchy sexual talk about what i expected her to do to me. i doubt though that taught her any permanent lesson and she probably continued her work from home and did not lose any chat cafe fees.
[quote=turdycurdyone;1215720]what i once did on chat, not with a filipina but with a nigerian broad who had some bs story and was eager to get my bank account information is that i told her i would send her money western union. just when she is ready and eager to receive the confirmation number, i'd fire up my latest yahoo booter program from a high speed network and bomb the sh*t out of her. she would then start yelling loudly "damn hackers" since her computer froze up and she had to reboot several times. i did this about 3 or 4 times before she got suspicious and then i started coming on with really raunchy sexual talk about what i expected her to do to me. i doubt though that taught her any permanent lesson and she probably continued her work from home and did not lose any chat cafe fees.[/quote]lots of scambait stories, tactics and names and ids here. [url]http://dragonladies.org/bbs/[/url]
[quote=turdycurdyone;1215720]what i once did on chat, not with a filipina but with a nigerian broad who had some bs story and was eager to get my bank account information is that i told her i would send her money western union. just when she is ready and eager to receive the confirmation number, i'd fire up my latest yahoo booter program from a high speed network and bomb the sh*t out of her. she would then start yelling loudly "damn hackers" since her computer froze up and she had to reboot several times. i did this about 3 or 4 times before she got suspicious and then i started coming on with really raunchy sexual talk about what i expected her to do to me. i doubt though that taught her any permanent lesson and she probably continued her work from home and did not lose any chat cafe fees.[/quote]agree. i don't think they will ever learn. they have gone to the dark side so to speak. they have lost any sense of right and wrong. unless, they are put away in prison for good, they will continue to scam newbies.
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1213996]All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. But today she is at it again. Be CAREFUL.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3677994[/url]
I saw her live again today, so obviously, its working for her. What more can we do but to warn others. If I go to Valenzuela to confront her. I will return in a body bag LOL.[/QUOTE]You seem bitter. How much money did the little piglet fleece you for? Did you happen to notice the pics and profile were not consistant with a filipina living in Phils which should have made it rather obvious it was a scam? I love the pic of her driving the SUV in Texas or California. For some reason I don't see that kind of picture when I step off the plane in Manila and take a deep breath of raw sewage in the air.
[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1215994]Did you happen to notice the pics and profile were not consistant with a filipina living in Phils which should have made it rather obvious it was a scam? I love the pic of her driving the SUV in Texas or California. For some reason I don't see that kind of picture when I step off the plane in Manila and take a deep breath of raw sewage in the air.[/QUOTE]LOL. It was the picture in back of the house that did it for me. See many of those in PI!
[QUOTE=Screaming Beaver;1215994]You seem bitter. How much money did the little piglet fleece you for? Did you happen to notice the pics and profile were not consistant with a filipina living in Phils which should have made it rather obvious it was a scam? I love the pic of her driving the SUV in Texas or California. For some reason I don't see that kind of picture when I step off the plane in Manila and take a deep breath of raw sewage in the air.[/QUOTE]LOL. I'm from a third world country myself, so I know many a trick that girls do to fleece men plus I have lived in the PH long enough to know the con. Yeah, the first cow boy hat pic plus others, she uploaded recently, it was not there when I chatted with her. Guess, she is becoming bolder and bolder. When I have free time, I'm itching to go on with her for another round of five hour non-sense to waste her time.
Willing to be my first boyfriend.
If ever our relationship will work then we will be together forever and then we will undergo marriage
UNDERGO? Finally we find a gal who is honest. Anyone willing to undergo marriage?
[QUOTE=X Man; 1217143]Willing to be my first boyfriend.
If ever our relationship will work then we will be together forever and then we will undergo marriage
UNDERGO? Finally we find a gal who is honest. Anyone willing to undergo marriage?[/QUOTE]We are the beneficial recipients of this 'Some day my prince will come' syndrome. 'Prince' equals wealthy white foreigner. Looks. Age, personality,
All not important. How many girls have we all met who would have eagerly accepted any marriage proposal within the first hour of meeting?
Logic doesn't live in the Philippines. It's Fantasy Land.
[QUOTE=Questor55; 1217193]We are the beneficial recipients of this 'Some day my prince will come' syndrome. 'Prince' equals wealthy white foreigner. Looks. Age, personality,
All not important. How many girls have we all met who would have eagerly accepted any marriage proposal within the first hour of meeting?
Logic doesn't live in the Philippines. It's Fantasy Land.[/QUOTE]It's not just the Phil. This is a characteristic of all women. Women are bigger bull sh*ters than men. But I think they actually believe their BS.
They take their stone cold requirements for money, prestige, power and security and bend them into words of love, romance, etc. Notice how adament so many of them are about not wanting money in their profiles?"Methinks the lad (ies) Doth protesteth too much".
They complain about what liars and dogs men are but they are worse concealing their selfish desires behind charm and guile.
Most, not all women, are like this in the USA also. It's just on a different level here.
The other very noticeable thing is what attention working girls they are. Many on DIA are just there to talk to men for pseudo-intimacy. They do not intend to marry, nor do they intend to give sex. Unless they are duely compensated in some way. They just want some new guy to talk to.
Can you imagine how many Filipino guys feel when they see Filipinas throwing themselves at foreigners and rejecting them with disdain? I imagine the same way we feel when Westernized women reject us because we don't have a nice house or high paying professional job.
Just been made aware that girls must be at least 18 to sign up for DIA. Therefore, those 16 and 17 yr. Olds who are eager to 'test the waters', start by.
Inflating their ages, (along with their chests in those triple padded bras). So that partially explains why that 20yr. Old you met may really be 17.
That's happened to me more than once. How do we spell "JAIL BAIT"?
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1217396]The other very noticeable thing is what attention working girls they are. Many on DIA are just there to talk to men for pseudo-intimacy. They do not intend to marry, nor do they intend to give sex. They just want some new guy to talk to.[/QUOTE]Bingo! This is true of most dating websites around the world, even the legit ones. I have been on some sites for years on and off. And I see some of the same girls there that were there years ago when I signed up. Even some that I have already been through. I don't think they do it intentionally, but it's the attention they get from so many guys that keeps them coming back and not settling down, and as you said someone new to talk to every week while they are at work or whatever.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1217396]It's not just the Phil. This is a characteristic of all women. Women are bigger bull sh*ters than men. But I think they actually believe their BS.[/QUOTE]Todays words of wisdom! Could not agree more. Women often act from what they consider moral high ground, in order to make men feel like like they need to qualify. And as you write, they believe all of this crap. As much as I love women, I must admit that they are often first class leeches in many respects. Thousands of years rewarding conservative behavior with survival, makes them inclined to "stay in the cave" both physically and in terms of how they view themselves and any form of slightly deviant behavior. Look at a cafés in the west and see who is there, creating consensus with each other and munching away on the preys and nuts that Mr Stoneage brought home (symbolically). This evolutionary selection of conservative and consensus seeking eye servants also makes them inclined to wanting to "be good", and this can be used in the most simple punani-strategies. Make them feel good about themselves and they will throw their wet panties in your face. Give them a huge female reference group (like Brazil or even better Germany) that takes it deep down the ass, and they "will try as long as you do not tell my friends".
You can not really blame anyone for their disability to see and understand themselves, so you just got to love them, treat them good and have fun.
Do not try to qualify. Lead the way!
B.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1217396]It's not just the Phil. This is a characteristic of all women. Women are bigger bull sh*ters than men. But I think they actually believe their BS.
They take their stone cold requirements for money, prestige, power and security and bend them into words of love, romance, etc.[/QUOTE]If a girl genuinely believes her "BS", then it's not BS. It's only BS because you disagree with it.
Women are biologically programmed to seek high-status guys, a survival mechanism instilled over hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution. When they see guys with high-status traits, their brains (programmed for survival) will release chemicals to make them feel this sensation of "love", just like guys feel it when they see an attractive women. So it's not BS.
This attraction mechanism is involuntary and subconscious. She doesn't even know it's happening. So she'll genuinely think she's attracted to a guy because of his humor, his sweetness, his looks or his education.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1217396]Can you imagine how many Filipino guys feel when they see Filipinas throwing themselves at foreigners and rejecting them with disdain?[/QUOTE]Actually, some Filipino guys who are probably laughing at us!
Hate to say this, but many P4P Filipinas have Filipino boyfriends. They go for foreigners for money. They go for Pinoys for love.
[QUOTE=Barba;1217512]As much as I love women, I must admit that they are often first class leeches in many respects. Thousands of years rewarding conservative behavior with survival, makes them inclined to "stay in the cave" both physically and in terms of how they view themselves and any form of slightly deviant behavior.[/QUOTE]Be careful in complaining about leeching. Because if women didn't leech off men, they will need men less. The most basic exchange between men and women is love / sex for financial security.
In most parts of the Pacific Rim, there is negative population growth because women have plenty of economic opportunity. Japan has such a strong population decline rate that, at this rate, there'd be no one left in Japan in 300 years.
So I say, let them leech! You really think most young supple Filipinas would give us mongers even a second look if we had nothing to provide financially? Yes, they'll still have need for love / sex, but they'll likely seek them from young, attractive Pinoys.
At least three of my former girlfriends. Lookers all, have won the lottery and married older white guys.
One of them has filled her Facebook with hundreds of photos of her privileged new life in the USA. The
Message spreads faster than the flu in winter,"This could happen to you, too!" Almost all our eager.
Young ladies know someone who knows someone who 'hit the jackpot'. This is a major driving force that.
Motivates so many to make themselves available and provides 'lucky us' with a seemingly endless supply of nubile companions. So, to scorn those guys as being dumb pricks, is most ungracious and fails to recognize that they provide the fuel that ultimately delivers lots of these young babes to us.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1217697]If a girl genuinely believes her "BS", then it's not BS. It's only BS because you disagree with it.
*Sociopaths believe their BS and it IS BS.
Women are biologically programmed to seek high-status guys, a survival mechanism instilled over hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution. When they see guys with high-status traits, their brains (programmed for survival) will release chemicals to make them feel this sensation of "love", just like guys feel it when they see an attractive women. So it's not BS.
*Ok if you say so. It's just a theory, there is no proof of that. If you have proof of your biological theory let's see the cites?
*<snip
Actually, some Filipino guys who are probably laughing at us!
Hate to say this, but many P4P Filipinas have Filipino boyfriends. They go for foreigners for money. They go for Pinoys for love.
*Some are no doubt, but that's not going to happen to me. Also the Filipino guys.
CLAIM that we only get the ugly ones, haha. That's more BS to soothe their wounded egos.
Be careful in complaining about leeching. Because if women didn't leech off men, they will need men less. The most basic exchange between men and women is love / sex for financial security.
*I agree with the exchange theory, but that's true in all relationships-they are based on agreeable exchanges of value. It's not just sex for financial security, it's sex for love-women want to believe they are loved; according to your theory because they are programmed to nest and keep the relationship stable for purpose of raising young and to keep the male from wandering.
In most parts of the Pacific Rim, there is negative population growth because women have plenty of economic opportunity. Japan has such a strong population decline rate that, at this rate, there'd be no one left in Japan in 300 years.
So I say, let them leech! You really think most young supple Filipinas would give us mongers even a second look if we had nothing to provide financially? Yes, they'll still have need for love / sex, but they'll likely seek them from young, attractive Pinoys.[/QUOTE]*Yes as one old rich codger said."I know she wants me for my money, but at least she WANTS me."
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1214954]Waste of time for me.
Almost all women on that site are seeking marriage.
My profile specifically says "not looking for a wife", and it did not get any takers.
The same profile on DIA gets 10 hits each day.[/QUOTE]Cheers for that Red.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1217697]Be careful in complaining about leeching. Because if women didn't leech off men, they will need men less. The most basic exchange between men and women is love / sex for financial security.[/QUOTE]Be careful not to miss an opportunity to totally misunderstand a post.
B.
[QUOTE=Questor55; 1217753]At least three of my former girlfriends. Lookers all, have won the lottery and married older white guys.
One of them has filled her Facebook with hundreds of photos of her privileged new life in the USA. The
Message spreads faster than the flu in winter,"This could happen to you, too!" Almost all our eager.
Young ladies know someone who knows someone who 'hit the jackpot'. This is a major driving force that.
Motivates so many to make themselves available and provides 'lucky us' with a seemingly endless supply of nubile companions. So, to scorn those guys as being dumb pricks, is most ungracious and fails to recognize that they provide the fuel that ultimately delivers lots of these young babes to us.[/QUOTE]This kind of reminds me why western world CEOs get paid obscene amounts of money. It is NOT the extra amount of money that motivates them, but the motivating effects it has on the corporate underlings whom all aspire to the top seat. So, the success of a few Philippinos to 'hit the jackpot' motivates the remainder to work through the white visitors so that they too can dig for gold.
Actually I really appreciate your insight on this [B]Questor55[/B]!
And in many cases, it is probably enjoyable, they get a decent bed (at least for a night) , some nice food, more than their taxi fare home AND still might be in the hunt for that overseas jackpot of lifetime income, lifetime social service, medicare etc etc. Certainly worthwhile banging a few old codgers.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1217901]*Yes as one old rich codger said."I know she wants me for my money, but at least she WANTS me."[/QUOTE]Since when is fair exchange a robbery? I'm thinking when I get older it won't matter to me either. I will have all my bills paid off and won't have any responsibilities. When I die I won't be able to take anything with me. So while I'm living those last years I might as well enjoy the party. Most women are going to be with you for your money (read security) whether you are young or old. It just might be a little more apparent and in your face when you are old and they are young. The game has not changed and it never will.
So how do you guys usually go about sealing the deal? I'm going to be in Manila for a couple of days in Feb so I've already been putting out the feelers on DIA. Do you just straight out say you want money for sex, or do you meet and hope you can talk about it then?
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1218088]So how do you guys usually go about sealing the deal? I'm going to be in Manila for a couple of days in Feb so I've already been putting out the feelers on DIA. Do you just straight out say you want money for sex, or do you meet and hope you can talk about it then?[/QUOTE]Sloooow way down, Fatboy! If you are going in February, then wait until a few weeks before to really put your quest into operation.
The only reason to be chatting this early is for practice at honing your 'gamer skills'. You want to avoid those long, everyday, meaningless
Chats unless you are really into self abuse. Most of us with more experience, know that filipinas usually have very short attention spans.
So, capitalize on that. Start late and build quick. And definitely DO NOT talk about cash until you meet. Even then, play it by ear.
Cash doesn't have to be the issue. Maybe you can score with a meal and taxi fare. RESEARCH HERE TO LEARN LOTS!
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1218088]So how do you guys usually go about sealing the deal? I'm going to be in Manila for a couple of days in Feb so I've already been putting out the feelers on DIA. Do you just straight out say you want money for sex, or do you meet and hope you can talk about it then?[/QUOTE]You are trying to meet regular girls on DIA. Need to feel her out what she will do. Suggest getting together in your hotel. If she comes sex is kind of guaranteed. Money is not discussed with these girls. Just say you will take care of her whatever it means. But remember these girls are in it for money except rare chances she wants to make a impression looking for long time relationship and support.
You cannot treat her as a sex worker. Sometimes the girl will ask for money to meetr you. These are pros or semi pros.
Do not send any money before meeting.
Short and simple advice from Sammon, but a good summary. I've had much better luck with regular women (from DIA and otherwise) outside of Manila, so good luck to the original poster.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1218145]You are trying to meet regular girls on DIA. Need to feel her out what she will do. Suggest getting together in your hotel. If she comes sex is kind of guaranteed. Money is not discussed with these girls. Just say you will take care of her whatever it means. But remember these girls are in it for money except rare chances she wants to make a impression looking for long time relationship and support.
You cannot treat her as a sex worker. Sometimes the girl will ask for money to meetr you. These are pros or semi pros.
Do not send any money before meeting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man;1218202]Short and simple advice from Sammon, but a good summary. I've had much better luck with regular women (from DIA and otherwise) outside of Manila, so good luck to the original poster.[/QUOTE]Actually a couple of girls tried giving sob stories about paying for college and asked me for money. I shut that down quick, LOL. I don't have much time in Manila, so I just want a couple of sure things. I have a lot of time yet, so I'll just keep looking to see what's out there.
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1218337]Actually a couple of girls tried giving sob stories about paying for college and asked me for money. I shut that down quick, LOL. I don't have much time in Manila, so I just want a couple of sure things. I have a lot of time yet, so I'll just keep looking to see what's out there.[/QUOTE]Those of us who live here have the luxury of time to cultivate friendships etc. You don't have that luxury so you need to concentrate on the "sure things". In your case your profile should be very direct about what you want without offending the DIA censors (some do-gooder will report you and you can get banned if you are too explicit).
You will lose a high percentage of women by your direct approach BUT you will sieve out the "sure things".
Normally I would disagree with the strategy of "inviting direct to the room" until after you have actually met them (as Sammon proposes) , but in your case, with 2 days only, you have to cut to the chase.
As others have said, don't get into the daily back & forth meaningless exchange of messages until you are closer to arrival.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1218361]You will lose a high percentage of women by your direct approach BUT you will sieve out the "sure things".[/Quote]I find that it is fairly easy, from a combination of the look of the profile pic and the tone of the pen picture, to interpret which girls will respond best to the direct approach and which require more subtle management. But you do get the occasional surprise. A couple of days ago, one Bulacan girl who seemed to be in the second category with a decidedly husband seeking profile, without prompting offered to come into town and let me do anything I wanted with her for 2000 pesos.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1217901]*Yes as one old rich codger said."I know she wants me for my money, but at least she WANTS me."[/QUOTE]
True love, Filipino style!
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1218337]Actually a couple of girls tried giving sob stories about paying for college and asked me for money. I shut that down quick, LOL. I don't have much time in Manila, so I just want a couple of sure things. I have a lot of time yet, so I'll just keep looking to see what's out there.[/QUOTE]
If all you're looking for is to fuck the girl, her asking for money is actually an opportunity to open negotiations.
Otherwise, I hope you're not doing a fuck-and-run without paying.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1218413]If all you're looking for is to fuck the girl, her asking for money is actually an opportunity to open negotiations.
Otherwise, I hope you're not doing a fuck-and-run without paying.[/QUOTE]I'm not looking to break any hearts. I was thinking of just hanging out for food / drinks and an evening of fucking.
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1218487]I'm not looking to break any hearts. I was thinking of just hanging out for food / drinks and an evening of fucking.[/QUOTE]That's cool. Of course, the monger's code is never to pretend to want a relationship only to fuck the girl. So it may not be a bad thing if she brings up money upfront.
Monger's code? WTF?
Can you send me a pdf file of the complete code? X.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1218523]That's cool. Of course, the monger's code is never to pretend to want a relationship only to fuck the girl. So it may not be a bad thing if she brings up money upfront.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man; 1218578]Monger's code? WTF?
Can you send me a pdf file of the complete code? X.[/QUOTE]It's in the online PDF library, next to the article about how to compose a rational argument.
Too bad you didn't read that one either.
[quote=furryfriend;1218523]that's cool. of course, the monger's code is never to pretend to want a relationship only to fuck the girl.[/quote]i thought the monger's code was to say or do whatever you have to in order to get the pussy ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] excluded) ; even if it means paying cold hard cash.
[quote=mr enternational;1218744]i thought the monger's code was to say or do whatever you have to in order to get the pussy ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] excluded) ; even if it means paying cold hard cash.[/quote]the monger's code is what you punch into the atm at edsa, i thought.
[QUOTE=X Man; 1218578]Monger's code? WTF?
Can you send me a pdf file of the complete code? X.[/QUOTE]You can read it here [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning[/url]#Miranda_rights
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/camgirl.ella.html[/url]
Wants $50 to do a cam show. I'm not that desperate though. Hehe
Furry friend, I don't have a lot of time to suffer fools. Which one of my rational arguements do you disagree with?
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1218671]It's in the online PDF library, next to the article about how to compose a rational argument.
Too bad you didn't read that one either.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, good one Driveallnight. :-D So in other words we all have our own code. Maybe quite close to the truth actually.
How some of the guys here can be so opinionated is beyond me. And why do some guys need to be so f*cking unfriendly? Your ego will still be a pathetic infected little creature, crying for more attention of any kind, no matter how many people you step in the face in your imaginary world. King behind the keyboard. A weak strategy for self-actualization. If the climate here on ISG was more friendly, and less guys was in such desperate need to mend their imploded self esteem, we would not be so few guys actually sharing useful information. People are not impressed by this rude nonsense, they just go silent. Grow up.
Well, I will continue to pretend as if all guys here where cool and deserved info.
I have been scheduled to see Paxawae in Davao a couple of times, but did not get around to it and do not plan to soon either. To much fish in the ocean and to little time.
If am not to sure I agree with this part:
"DeY SaY that I'm tOO iNtelliGeNce. IN class"
But she is alright looking and looking for someone to date her. Seems she is out of money since she started to ping me again, even if she promised never to see me after I stood her up the third time.
She will start with marriage and all that shit, but at least for me she soon enough reduced the requirements drastically. Have fun and do report back if you see her.
[url]http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?view=mini&uid=5447640459[/url]
Barba (still waiting for something juicy and curvy to come his way for the February trip)
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980; 1218794][url]http://www.dateinasia.com/camgirl.ella.html[/url]
Wants $50 to do a cam show. I'm not that desperate though. Hehe[/QUOTE]From the height and absence of photo, I would suspect a ladyboy. Stumbled on another wannabe Quezon cam star yesterday who gave me a free performance. Had a tidy body (and I might arrange to see her) and a totally untamed wilderness for a muff for those who like the au naturale look. Anyone want details, PM me.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1219078]From the height and absence of photo, I would suspect a ladyboy. Stumbled on another wannabe Quezon cam star yesterday who gave me a free performance. Had a tidy body (and I might arrange to see her) and a totally untamed wilderness for a muff for those who like the au naturale look. Anyone want details, PM me.[/QUOTE]I did some digging around (actually I just looked at his / her Yahoo profile) and I found out that she is a he. Another ladyboy tried to fool me but I simply looked at his Facebook page and the photos were a dead giveaway. These fellas aren't smart are they? LOL
I seen this guys discription on D I A. He wants have sex with many girls as Wayne yo Singapore Wonder how it working for him.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1214631]I had a message today from a girl on DIA (33 year old) who had seen my profile on DIA.
HER: "Hi. I hope we can meet sometime. I like to meet you for some fun but I hope you will reward me as it is my only way to earn cash. Here is my CP number and my YM address"
ME: "Well sure. Let's meet next time I am in (name of city)".
HER: "I am looking forward to meeting you soon and have a good fuck"
I wonder how many guys are on her "to do" list?[/QUOTE]This is perfect. I love direct women, best to know what your in for! Care to share?
I wonder if she worries how many pussies have been on your dick?
I prefer older women who enjoy fucking myself!
PP
[QUOTE=Paulb;1219541]I seen this guys discription on D I A. He wants have sex with many girls as Wayne yo Singapore Wonder how it working for him.[/QUOTE]Who are you talking about?
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1219705]Who are you talking about?[/QUOTE]Sorry check out his page on D I A. I was just wondering if he got a good response?
There seem to be a lot. There have been a few where I strongly suspect they are LBs but I don't know if I should ask. This one for example looks fine in the photo but on cam, I thought 'ladyboy'.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/ohayas_maryjoy.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980; 1219816]There seem to be a lot. There have been a few where I strongly suspect they are LBs but I don't know if I should ask. This one for example looks fine in the photo but on cam, I thought 'ladyboy'.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/ohayas_maryjoy.html[/url]
'[/QUOTE]The profile for sure looks like a females profile. A little warning bell on all her "qualifiers". Fatboy, the options in Cebu are endless. A lot of good female fuck partners in the bars, and if you go on-line in DIA when you are there, you will find someone quite fast. In addition we are several here who I am sure will be happy to send you contacts if you are just looking for Pp4P. I set out to pick up a cute teen in Ayalla Mall once and it took me less than 5 minutes to close the deal. She had her period though so I had to cum in her mouth instead. She swallowed and I paid her 1000 if I remember correct.
The chatting is a good build up but not required.
B.
[QUOTE=Paulb;1219750]Sorry check out his page on D I A. I was just wondering if he got a good response?[/QUOTE]I am bemused why you are bothering to read guy's profiles on DIA. Just asking.
Yes Fatboy - there are a lot of lady boys but most of them admit to being a shemale in their profiles.
They are usually 5 ft 5 ins or more (many are 5ft 6 and 5ft 8in).
Height is a key likely indicator if you are suspicious.
Rather interestingly, where a girl looks suspiciously like a lady boy and she is not, you will see in her profile the disclaimer insisting that she is "100% woman and to please stop asking her if she is a ladyboy".
These girls don't make the next logical step of putting up a more flattering picture that shows her feminine side.
Once you register, you see a short list of what you are allowed of. But a long list of what not to do.
I had an account with them. After getting some nice meetings in the province, I felt it was better to close it. Not to keep the contacts going on. With the sure request for "help"
A year later I did try to re-open it. Didn't work and no reply from them on my mail.
I opened a new one, giving the same e-mail as before : acess denied.
I got another e mail adress, registered again: acess denied.
Went on another PC, different IP, never on DIA with that. And again different e-mail: accepted, got the phone confirmation code and set up my page.
A week later my account closed again. No indication why, except the list of 30 possible sins one can do. And no option to communicate with them.
I am curious, if any computer geek can tell me how they keep records. Do they tag pictures? Do they store IP's? Is it not enough to clear cookies? Does a program goes through all mails to detect some wordings?
No silly replies please. But guys who are in the biz. Thanks
Good question. My account was cancelled as well and I was not able to reopen. I plan to try from a different IP address but I hope I don't have the same problem as you did. Did you use your same Phone # to register the last time?
[QUOTE=Botaki6; 1219874]Once you register, you see a short list of what you are allowed of. But a long list of what not to do.
I had an account with them. After getting some nice meetings in the province, I felt it was better to close it. Not to keep the contacts going on. With the sure request for "help"
A year later I did try to re-open it. Didn't work and no reply from them on my mail.
I opened a new one, giving the same e-mail as before : acess denied.
I got another e mail adress, registered again: acess denied.
Went on another PC, different IP, never on DIA with that. And again different e-mail: accepted, got the phone confirmation code and set up my page.
A week later my account closed again. No indication why, except the list of 30 possible sins one can do. And no option to communicate with them.
I am curious, if any computer geek can tell me how they keep records. Do they tag pictures? Do they store IP's? Is it not enough to clear cookies? Does a program goes through all mails to detect some wordings?
No silly replies please. But guys who are in the biz. Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980; 1219816]There seem to be a lot. There have been a few where I strongly suspect they are LBs but I don't know if I should ask. This one for example looks fine in the photo but on cam, I thought 'ladyboy'.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/ohayas_maryjoy.html[/url][/QUOTE]Like RK I always check the stated height. At only 5 foot and in view of the general feminine shape of the face, I would be surprised if Maryjoy is a ladyboy. But you say that you have seen her on webcam so maybe 'she' showed you something you didn't expect to see:eek:.
Some of the profiles written by ladyboys on DIA make priceless reading. Check out the one at [url]http://www.dateinasia.com/delicunt05.html.[/url] Apart from the brilliant handle, the pen picture appears to have been written by Deliah Smith under the influence of psychotropic substances. Amazing!
[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1219877]Good question. My account was cancelled as well and I was not able to reopen. I plan to try from a different IP address but I hope I don't have the same problem as you did. Did you use your same Phone # to register the last time?[/QUOTE]Different phone number I used. But when I wrote my profile, I put the same pic on as on the earlier page. Therefore my question if they do face-tagging?
The guys behind are quite secretive. Their I'd is regstered with a separate company, but their actual adress is only given as being in Arizona, withour further names. Legal question: are they allowed to store personal data (communication with members, pics, whatever.) although the account is closed?
Maybe some girl or girls complained about you. Since its a free site, DIA doesn't lose anything if they kick guys off their page.
Not a ladyboy, but apparently too young. Use the YM address she provides to look at her Facebook.
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980; 1219816]There seem to be a lot. There have been a few where I strongly suspect they are LBs but I don't know if I should ask. This one for example looks fine in the photo but on cam, I thought 'ladyboy'.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/ohayas_maryjoy.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cbea20;1219984]Not a ladyboy, but apparently too young. Use the YM address she provides to look at her Facebook.[/QUOTE]Hmm. How can you tell her age from the FB photo? I didn't add her as a friend. Did you?
Maybe it was just the camera because her face looked too big to be a girl (the jaw line was all wrong). Also, I'm not even sure if the pic on DIA is genuine, because she looked very different on cam. And to Cunning Stunt, haha she didn't show me anything on cam. I'm beginning to think I should ask them to show me some proof as soon as we begin the chat. It's frustrating and annoying when LBs get in contact. I even put it in caps on my profile to tell LBs to stay away!
Would it be against any rules or TOS to out LBs on DIA or similar sites? Not the ones that openly admit to it, but the ones who hide it and attempt to con us pussy-hounds. Just as a way of getting each other's backs and avoid these time wasters?
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1219990]Would it be against any rules or TOS to out LBs on DIA or similar sites?[/QUOTE]Who cares? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? You are already going to burn out most of the worthwhile girls by chatting months and months in advance of your trip.
[QUOTE=David_33;1219994]Who cares? Don't you have anything better to do with your time? You are already going to burn out most of the worthwhile girls by chatting months and months in advance of your trip.[/QUOTE]Ok fair enough. I actually thought about that. I am in contact with some girls already, but I'm going to stop talking to them or other girls until I get closer to the date. I was just kind of testing the waters, so to speak.
If you have read the forum, you will note that all the experienced members suggest starting to make contact a couple of weeks before your trip. I realize that living in sex prison with no available pussy is a frustrating experience and chatting with cuties is tempting. Just look at how many guys spend megabucks on livechat sites. But try to control yourself and just concentrate on getting the logistics of your trip organized. Then when you reach your destination you can concentrate on the chicas. That is my humble opinion.
[QUOTE=David_33;1220002]If you have read the forum, you will note that all the experienced members suggest starting to make contact a couple of weeks before your trip. I realize that living in sex prison with no available pussy is a frustrating experience and chatting with cuties is tempting. Just look at how many guys spend megabucks on livechat sites. But try to control yourself and just concentrate on getting the logistics of your trip organized. Then when you reach your destination you can concentrate on the chicas. That is my humble opinion.[/QUOTE]Duly noted, Sir! Actually that is very good advice. My recon so far suggests that hooking up via the internet is a piece of cake in the Phils, so I'm going to lay low for a a while.
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1219990]Would it be against any rules or TOS to out LBs on DIA or similar sites? Not the ones that openly admit to it, but the ones who hide it and attempt to con us pussy-hounds. Just as a way of getting each other's backs and avoid these time wasters?[/QUOTE]99% of ladyboys are quite easy to uncover. In the Phil, it's closer to 100% because they don't have the money to do all the things necessary to hide their original sex. If you don't now how to do this google it.
If you were in S. F. Then there are some tran nies who would be hard to determine; it is said even doctors have a hard time with some of them.
DIA admins are hard a s s je rks because they have a monopoly on working free sites. However their restrictive policies are losing them alot of new and some old visitors. A new site Pinaylove has cropped up but the admins there are just dishonest. They suck you in with "free" and then later switch it to restricted if not paid. Waste of time to register there. DIA is requiring mobile phone numbers and they only accept certain kinds of numbers-can you spell fa ci st p I g s? And they are liable to ban you if you make any disparaging remarks based on sexual orientation, transgender etc. I don't know but I am guessing they have probably they have alot of ho mos on staff.
Spotting LB is the least of your problems in chasing po on in the PI
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1219998]Ok fair enough. I actually thought about that. I am in contact with some girls already, but I'm going to stop talking to them or other girls until I get closer to the date. I was just kind of testing the waters, so to speak.[/QUOTE]How I see it is, DIA is free. When it's free, you can't complain. They understandably have a "take it or leave it" attitude. So why raise hell, especially since there's no benefit to you and you might possibly get booted?
Interestingly, it seems they're harsher on guys than girls.
There are simple commonsense countermeasures to discovering ladyboys. Even without it, a vast majority of ladyboys will admit it. They're in it for money and don't want to waste time. They know when it's time for sex and you see a penis, you won't pay. So he's just wasting time by lying.
By the way, I'd wager most guys lie on their profiles too. In fact, I believe girls take on greater risk being on DIA than guys.
[QUOTE=Botaki6;1219874]I am curious, if any computer geek can tell me how they keep records. Do they tag pictures? Do they store IP's? Is it not enough to clear cookies? Does a program goes through all mails to detect some wordings?[/QUOTE]DIA seem to trigger on cookies, IP and reused data (including pictures that is extremely easy to match to a database). So avoid all of that. To have some sort of writing pattern recognition is far fetched and they do not have this (I am on my second profile and still write the same bs).
You can use TOR or a free proxy to get around the proxy problem.
[url]https://www.torproject.org/[/url]
[url]http://www.proxy4free.com/[/url] (or any other of a million sites)
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1220007]of them.
DIA admins are hard a s s je rks because they have a monopoly on working free sites. However their restrictive policies are losing them alot of new and some old visitors. A new site Pinaylove has cropped up. DIA is requiring mobile phone numbers and they only accept certain kinds of numbers-can you spell fa ci st p I g s? And they are liable to ban you if you make any disparaging remarks based on sexual orientation, transgender etc. I don't know but I am guessing they have probably they have alot of ho mos on staff.[/QUOTE]If its any consolation its not only DIA. I was doing great with Badoo or Baidoo, and was getting lots of contacts when one day I get the message " you have ben sending spam and your acount is hereby deleted". I contacted the administrator who duly replied " We have banned you. There is no right of appeal ". Many many sites out there and realistically there's something for everybody. Just takes time to go thru them all to see which works for you.
I think I got booted from DIA from responding badly to too many ladyboys. I will be more kind next time to those silly boys if I can get back on the site.
[QUOTE=David_33;1219974]Maybe some girl or girls complained about you. Since its a free site, DIA doesn't lose anything if they kick guys off their page.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1220007]99% of ladyboys are quite easy to uncover. In the Phil, it's closer to 100% because they don't have the money to do all the things necessary to hide their original sex. If you don't now how to do this google it.
If you were in S. F. Then there are some tran nies who would be hard to determine; it is said even doctors have a hard time with some of them.
DIA admins are hard a s s je rks because they have a monopoly on working free sites. However their restrictive policies are losing them alot of new and some old visitors. A new site Pinaylove has cropped up but the admins there are just dishonest. They suck you in with "free" and then later switch it to restricted if not paid. Waste of time to register there. DIA is requiring mobile phone numbers and they only accept certain kinds of numbers-can you spell fa ci st p I g s? And they are liable to ban you if you make any disparaging remarks based on sexual orientation, transgender etc. I don't know but I am guessing they have probably they have alot of ho mos on staff.
Spotting LB is the least of your problems in chasing po on in the PI[/QUOTE]I often have some trouble spotting the LBs. Have any of you seen "applebkk"? She might be a stunner, but then again.
She has accepted job as my guide in BKK and agreed spend the night with me, so I feel odd asking her if she is a LB. I will ask at some point, but sometimes its hard to tell.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1220123]I often have some trouble spotting the LBs. Have any of you seen "applebkk"? She might be a stunner, but then again.
She has accepted job as my guide in BKK and agreed spend the night with me, so I feel odd asking her if she is a LB. I will ask at some point, but sometimes its hard to tell.[/QUOTE]Age and height tally, weight nearly so. Face looks similar but not conclusive. Don't worry mate, whew, she doesn't have a dick..... it's been cut off:eek:..... LOL.
[url]http://bangkokladyboys2go.com/portfolio/apple-2/[/url]
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1220007]DIA admins are hard a s s je rks because they have a monopoly on working free sites. However their restrictive policies are losing them alot of new and some old visitors. DIA is requiring mobile phone numbers and they only accept certain kinds of numbers-can you spell fa ci st p I g s? And they are liable to ban you if you make any disparaging remarks based on sexual orientation, transgender etc. I don't know but I am guessing they have probably they have alot of ho mos on staff.[/QUOTE]So. What is their agenda? Why a phone number? To whom they sell it? To whom they sell my personal infos I talk about with the girls?
If they have mods working on the site, reading all mails. Hey guys.thats SCARY!
Otherwise. What high end program they have to filter what you write? CIA cohorts?
SCARY DIA.
Advise to all you guys: better get quick the YM of the girl you want to proceed. And move over there. Much safer.
I do not know why people use dating paysites to find a sex mate. Just use free sites and chat up.
Success rates wioll be the same. Pay sites maybe better if you are looking for a lifemate.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1220147]Age and height tally, weight nearly so. Face looks similar but not conclusive. Don't worry mate, whew, she doesn't have a dick. It's been cut off. LOL.
[url]http://bangkokladyboys2go.com/portfolio/apple-2/[/url][/QUOTE]Your going to get in trouble. He he :=)
[QUOTE=Barba; 1220077]DIA seem to trigger on cookies, IP and reused data (including pictures that is extremely easy to match to a database). So avoid all of that. To have some sort of writing pattern recognition is far fetched and they do not have this (I am on my second profile and still write the same bs).
You can use TOR or a free proxy to get around the proxy problem.
[url]https://www.torproject.org/[/url]
[url]http://www.proxy4free.com/[/url]
(or any other of a million sites)
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You cannot use TOR or proxies with DIA (with the exception of certain special proxies). DIA blocks all proxies.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1220084]If its any consolation its not only DIA. I was doing great with Badoo or Baidoo, and was getting lots of contacts when one day I get the message " you have ben sending spam and your acount is hereby deleted". I contacted the administrator who duly replied " We have banned you. There is no right of appeal ". Many many sites out there and realistically there's something for everybody. Just takes time to go thru them all to see which works for you.[/QUOTE]If any of you use google email, know this. Google email scans the contents of your emails in order to provide data to advertisters to target spam to you and modify the ads you get on web pages.
Don't take my word for it, research it.
Google gmail is also starting to require mobile phone numbers and in some cases they have blocked already established accounts so you cannot access your email without then providing a cell number. And they don't take just any cell number either if they follow craigslist policies, it cannot be prepaid. C. L. Pays a fon date service to determine what type of cell number you have and if it's prepaid anonymous they won't accept it.
Do NOT rely on any one web page and put your eggs in one basket.
These we page admins are a bunch of slea zeballs in many cases.
When they have no business, they will do anything and promise you anything to get you to sign up. Later when they start getting regular income and customers they cut you off at the knees.
This is the trend across the internet and I predict in many years these corporations will be like big brother trying to control your life. It's already started and they will proceed slowly like frogs in gradually heating water you won't notice it until you are screwed.
Forwarned is forarmed.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1220294]Wrong.
You cannot use TOR or proxies with DIA (with the exception of certain special proxies). DIA blocks all proxies.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. I have a distinct memory that logged onto DIA via both proxies and TOR in the past. Isn't it just the country that needs to be correct / accepted? They are quite advanced if the keep track of TOR exit nodes and block them dynamically. Well I rest my case. Sorry I posted this in the wrong section, Mr Admin.
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[QUOTE=Sammon; 1220186]I do not know why people use dating paysites to find a sex mate. Just use free sites and chat up.
Success rates wioll be the same.[/QUOTE]You don't know what we talking about: DIA is free!
Heyyy. Any HTML-techies here to sell me the script starting a datingsite?
I think I could do some hard competition aginst those DIA nerds. Brothers of the facebook-wanker
[QUOTE=Forest; 1220123]I often have some trouble spotting the LBs. Have any of you seen "applebkk"? She might be a stunner, but then again.
She has accepted job as my guide in BKK and agreed spend the night with me, so I feel odd asking her if she is a LB. I will ask at some point, but sometimes its hard to tell.[/QUOTE]I think in BKK its highly accepted to check in advnce and to ask a girl if she's a LB. If you read a few Thai profiles on DIA etc they wil state categorically they are "not LB's" because they know its a relevant question. Most girls won't be offended if you ask.
Young lady showing her upper [url]wares.http://www.dateinasia.com/melodyong.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1220296]Google gmail is also starting to require mobile phone numbers and in some cases they have blocked already established accounts so you cannot access your email without then providing a cell number. And they don't take just any cell number either if they follow craigslist policies, it cannot be prepaid. C. L. Pays a fon date service to determine what type of cell number you have and if it's prepaid anonymous they won't accept it.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about that? I just created a gmail account to test this and no mention was ever made of any phone number.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1220296]If any of you use google email, know this. Google email scans the contents of your emails in order to provide data to advertisters to target spam to you and modify the ads you get on web pages.
Don't take my word for it, research it.
Google gmail is also starting to require mobile phone numbers and in some cases they have blocked already established accounts so you cannot access your email without then providing a cell number. And they don't take just any cell number either if they follow craigslist policies, it cannot be prepaid. C. L. Pays a fon date service to determine what type of cell number you have and if it's prepaid anonymous they won't accept it.[/QUOTE]I created my first gmail account last week. No request for a phone number.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1220553]I created my first gmail account last week. No request for a phone number.[/QUOTE]I never had to provide a Mobile number for a G-Mail I'd, but while experimenting with some Google voice features a couple of weeks ago, they did require a Mobile I'd to send a verification code.
Skype also has that requirement if you are going to use a number for caller I'd.
[QUOTE=Paul2020; 1220558]I never had to provide a Mobile number for a G-Mail I'd, but while experimenting with some Google voice features a couple of weeks ago, they did require a Mobile I'd to send a verification code.
Skype also has that requirement if you are going to use a number for caller I'd.[/QUOTE]If you do not use anonmyzing proxies, no one ever tries to hack your gmail account and they know who you are,
Then you will not be asked for a phone number until such time as they think there is any unusual activity on your account or until such time as they change their changeable policies.
I have been asked for mobile phone numbers on multiple accounts and in one case I was unable to access my already established account because they changed the criterion for access by requiring a phone number.
Point is they can change your ability to access you account and indentify you any time the feel like it and their is not a the mn thing you can do about it.
Also your email is scanned by automated servers and they develop marketing profiles on you so as to target ads to your computer or spam your email. This plus any credit card or other identifying info you use with any isp that you subscribe to or in any other way give them your credit card info, name etc. Gives they your identity, a profile of your interests, sites visited, etc.
Google it. These are well known issues, but apparently some are still blissfully ignorant.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1220437]Young lady showing her upper.
[url]wares.http://www.dateinasia.com/melodyong.html[/url][/QUOTE]See what we talking about: Profile CLOSED. And that within a day of raunchy appearance.
Those controllers are freaky guys.
Any techie, PM me if you got a script for a datesite. Only competition can make those guys shut up.
Chatting already some time with a DIA girl of 23. Really nice, big tits and tells me how much she wants me to lick her pussy blablabla. Go to the phils next week and we had already agreed on meeting.
Because I had seen her on cam already many times, I was not suspicious anymore. Until. I saw her FB pics. First I didn't notice anything strange until I saw a pic with a car in it and the license plate looked so strange. Zoomed in. Reading backwards. Strange. Then I start studying all the pics and notice moles on the left arm on exactly the same spot as on the right arm. So some pictures are "mirrored". But why is that. More zooming and more scanning. Then I see. Her left eye is pointing towards the sky and her face is not symmetric to say it politely. Shit. She did it clever. Cam was also always on the right (=good) side. And I was already looking forward to playing with those huge knockers. And licking that pussy. Damn. That's the risk of hunting.
She is really a nice girl. So I will not reveal her identity nor her city. But if you are chatting with a 23 whyear old with really big tits. I would check very carefully.
[QUOTE=Botaki6; 1220616]See what we talking about: Profile CLOSED. And that within a day of raunchy appearance.
Those controllers are freaky guys.
Any techie, PM me if you got a script for a datesite. Only competition can make those guys shut up.[/QUOTE]It's also possible that SHE closed her profile because she was suddenly bombarded by messages after her I D was listed on the site.
[QUOTE=Botaki6; 1220616]See what we talking about: Profile CLOSED. And that within a day of raunchy appearance.
Those controllers are freaky guys.
Any techie, PM me if you got a script for a datesite. Only competition can make those guys shut up.[/QUOTE]C'mon, don't be lame. If she's showing her breasts, it's against their terms of agreement. Nothing unreasonable about that.
[QUOTE=Fslag338; 1220865]Chatting already some time with a DIA girl of 23. Really nice, big tits and tells me how much she wants me to lick her pussy blablabla. Go to the phils next week and we had already agreed on meeting.
Because I had seen her on cam already many times, I was not suspicious anymore. Until. I saw her FB pics. First I didn't notice anything strange until I saw a pic with a car in it and the license plate looked so strange. Zoomed in. Reading backwards. Strange. Then I start studying all the pics and notice moles on the left arm on exactly the same spot as on the right arm. So some pictures are "mirrored". But why is that. More zooming and more scanning. Then I see. Her left eye is pointing towards the sky and her face is not symmetric to say it politely. Shit. She did it clever. Cam was also always on the right (=good) side. And I was already looking forward to playing with those huge knockers. And licking that pussy. Damn. That's the risk of hunting.
She is really a nice girl. So I will not reveal her identity nor her city. But if you are chatting with a 23 whyear old with really big tits. I would check very carefully.[/QUOTE]That is why you should always pack a brown paper bag with 2 eye and a mouth hole cut out, just for such an eventuality. I carry 2, just in case the first one splits:D.
Hello, everyone!
Has anyone tried the services it offers this profile, I mean students like travel companion? I want to go to Boracay for a few days. Reliable?
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[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1219829]They are usually 5 ft 5 ins or more (many are 5ft 6 and 5ft 8in).
Height is a key likely indicator if you are suspicious.[/QUOTE]Yes Red Kilt, height is a pretty good indicator. Here is a 35kg (77lb) 151cm (4'11") gay who is a dramatic exception:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/edwardbooc81.html[/url]
KongKing
[QUOTE=KongKing;1221254]Here is a (4'11") gay who is a dramatic exception:[/QUOTE]Only 4'11"? His knees are going to last a long time!
If you want to see an example of a woman who has a profile that does not send the same message as her photo, then check out bittercherry on DIA.
I pointed it out to her and she didn't seem to know what I meant.
She was pissed off at all the suggestive posts she was getting and I told her why. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. There is also a hubby hanging around too wanting her back so be careful if you fall for her photo.
[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1221390]If you want to see an example of a woman who has a profile that does not send the same message as her photo, then check out bittercherry on DIA.
I pointed it out to her and she didn't seem to know what I meant.
She was pissed off at all the suggestive posts she was getting and I told her why. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. There is also a hubby hanging around too wanting her back so be careful if you fall for her photo.[/QUOTE]5-2 and 176lbs? Yikes,
[QUOTE=D Cups;1221531]Too bad I didn't get to see this before it was deleted.[/QUOTE]You didn't miss too much. LOL
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1221392]5-2 and 176lbs? Yikes,[/QUOTE]He ran into my ex.
I should have said "Tis the season of giving IF YOU ARE A WESTERN GUY who chatgirl thinks could be an easy mark. LOL.
In past few days, been hit on many times for cash advances and the like.
One lady I never met thought it was ok to send me a message on a dating site for P20, 000 for her mums hospital bill. Told her what to do and where to go.
An ex gf asked for P2000 for her son in hospital.
Another ex asked for P1500 to help with her passport application.
And a soon to be gf thought she could hit me up for P10, 000 so she wouldn't lose her scholarship at a local law school. I told her I would pay here P500 for each time she could make me come. LOL. Its been an interesting few days.
But the weirdest request I had yet, is a 19 year old that I was possibly going to be meeting this weekend. I say possibly as she's on my list (I have about 10 possibles / probables for this weekend ). Anyways last night she tells me she's pregnant and do I know how to get rid of it.
Tell I know nothing of this subject.
Today she sends me 100 plaintive pleading messages, asking as follows:
"is it ok if you send me even a medecine please.
To make sure I'm not fooling you. And I'm telling the truth. I'm not aiming for the money all I want is to get rid of this early pregnancy of mine.
Even just 5 cytotec its ok. For me. Please. Do help me ".
These are abortion inducing tablets. And are also extremely dangerous when taken unsupervised. The lady requesting this was firmly advised not to take such medication.
So, none of my ladies got their requests fulfilled tho those that I do meet this weekend wil no doubt be getting a little bonus for their efforts. LOL
Landed in Butuan on the 10th and we immediately spotted each other as soon as I left the baggage area. Her brother in law drove a trike and took us over to the sister's house where a dozen or so relatives showed up to see me. They were generally to shy or lacked enough English to talk to me. Finally, one brother asked me if I knew my girl already had 3 kids. I looked at her while feigning surprise, counted to three on my fingers and loudly exclaimed "3 KIDS, YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE A VIRGIN!". That got everyone laughing so hard and after that they were less shy.
Her brother later helped us find a fairly nice one bedroom apartment in the St. Joseph area for 4000 pesos for the month. The owner said to expect to pay another 500 pesos per month on water and electricity.
Her plans to leave her kids with a relative fell through, but at least she brought a niece to keep the kids busy. She also showed no affection during this time and I was starting to think that she wasn't going to work out. Worse, when she laid down the kids, she laid down next to them. I was simply being polite by this point and not expecting much. So I went to the bedroom and fell asleep.
About an hour later, she came to the bedroom and woke me up and totally surprised me. The girl was a raging nymphomaniac that night. A little shy about oral sex at first, but then decided she really liked it. Said I could even hurt her during sex if I wanted (not my thing, but apparently was for her last bf). This girl treated me like a king the whole time I was there.
As I got to know her more, I was astounded by her level of poverty. Her kids were chronically sick and probably malnourished. I learned that the four of them usually only ate rice. I bought a bag of small orange like fruits that they devoured almost immediately. I made it a point to make sure they ate a balanced diet while I was there.
Her youngest child had a birth defect that I knew could probably be fixed with half an hour of surgery. I took the kid to the downtown maternity hospital, found the surgeon, and was able to get the kid fixed for only 2000 pesos. Unfortunately, this blew the rest of the 10, 000 pesos I had budgeted for my trip (not counting Copacabana in Makati and plane fair which were prepaid before I went to the Philippines, I planned to use the deposit from Copacabana for the airport tax).
I told her that I wasn't sure I could get more money. I witnessed her ability to survive on almost no money without a single complaint. She fixed only small amounts of rice. She found scraps of wood to burn for cooking the rice, instead of using oling (charcoal like chips). We had one egg and she tried to give it to me, although I told her to give it to the kids instead. Luckily, I went online and discovered that I still had just over a $100 in my bank account and after walking around town and trying a few banks I was able to withdraw 4000 pesos from the ATM at the BDO bank.
Finally, the end of my 18 days in a mixture of heaven (beautiful pinay) and hell (insects / heat / foul smells / lack of sanitation) came to an end. As I was packing my bags, the girl came into the room, realized that I was getting stuff ready to leave. Saw tears running down her face. I didn't think the sex could have gotten any better, but it did that last night. She puts every American girl that I have ever been with to complete shame in that department.
Was she a scammer? Probably. She told me that she originally never believed that I would ever come to her country to meet her. She had had several chat friends over the years that never seemed to show up. Most guys would just try to get her to strip at a public cafe. So she would just make friends first and then ask after about a month for some money. She does want me to bring her to the USA so she can work and send money to her kids (she knows that I could never afford to bring her kids over) , but I also have no doubt that she would make a devoted wife. So even though she may be a scammer, I plan to keep her.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1220599]Then you will not be asked for a phone number until such time as they think there is any unusual activity on your account or until such time as they change their changeable policies.[/QUOTE]As a long time G-mail account holder, I have recently been receiving this message:
[b]Add your mobile phone to your account.
Without a phone number, you could lose all access to your account if you forget your password or if your account is hijacked. [/b]
Don't think there is anything sinister behind it and I can opt in if I so desire but that could change in a heartbeat!
My view is that Google is trying to market to cell phone users as more and more people always seem to have them in hand!
Algol,
The lady does not sound like a scammer to me. It seems like she's honest with you and is not trying to take you for every cent you've got.
Sure, she needs money. As long as she's honest about it, and what the money's for, then I'm fine with that.
And I, too, have seen Filipino kids fed on little more than plates of white rice. I believe that you'll eventually be repaid for your kindness to those kids, which is never wasted money or effort.
[QUOTE=SergeantRay; 1222107]It seems like she's honest with you and is not trying to take you for every cent you've got.[/QUOTE]
Not yet.
Once word gets around that some foreigner came to town and threw money around like Santa Claus, who do you think they'll go for groceries, tuition, medical expenses and the like? They'll ask her and she'll ask him.
This is the Philippines where there's little shame in asking for money.
[QUOTE=Algol;1221953]So even though she may be a scammer, I plan to keep her.[/QUOTE]
I love the Philippines! Guys suspect a women is trouble and yet, he still goes through with it.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1222173]Not yet.
Once word gets around that some foreigner came to town and threw money around like Santa Claus, who do you think they'll go for groceries, tuition, medical expenses and the like? They'll ask her and she'll ask him.
This is the Philippines where there's little shame in asking for money.
I love the Philippines! Guys suspect a women is trouble and yet, he still goes through with it.[/QUOTE]This is a very poor Country where it is very difficult to make money and the costs are not so low compared to some other Asian countries.
I tell them that the woman I choose I will help if she has helped me.
I also tell them I am going to say NO to their relatives unless the relatives have done something substancial for me.
You have to be able to say NO, but you also have to have some compassion imo for their situation which is very difficult in most cases. I do not blame them for asking for help, I would probably do the same in their shoes.
Guys that go the Phil just to see how much p oo and they can get with no regard to giving anything in return give "poriners" a bad name and rep imo. That's the way I see it.
This one is a bit too chubby for me, but she seems to have the right attitude. I think she had some help writing the profile. If I was in CDO I'd be tempted to meet her.
X
Was recently in UK for a brief visit, and thanks to the ability of certain internet sites to be able to both know your age and location, when I clicked on certain sites, the accompanying advertisng offered to redirect me to "Senior Dating in UK " " Over 50's Dating for English people" and other such sites.
Out of curiosity I looked. Well the words were the same as the Asian sites we regualrly review." I seek an honest man, an affectionate man, a man who will appreciate my values and virtues " but the accompanying pics were of a 60 or 65 year old woman. I was waiting for the line " who will love me for what I am" but I guess the level of English in England is just a tad better than that time worn phrase.
I'm so happy that at 10am on Saturday morning I will be enjoying the delights of a 19 year old Filipina who will only be old saggy and wrinkled when my mortal coil has long since expired.
[QUOTE=Forest; 1220123]I often have some trouble spotting the LBs. Have any of you seen "applebkk"? She might be a stunner, but then again.
She has accepted job as my guide in BKK and agreed spend the night with me, so I feel odd asking her if she is a LB. I will ask at some point, but sometimes its hard to tell.[/QUOTE]I would bet 10,000 baht that she is a ladyboy.
However, if you really only need a guide, most ladyboys speak better english than the genuine girls.
[QUOTE=X Man; 1222245]This one is a bit too chubby for me, but she seems to have the right attitude. I think she had some help writing the profile. If I was in CDO I'd be tempted to meet her.
X[/QUOTE]Are you missing something here X man? This one? Which one?
It takes the guesswork out of wondering what her body is like [url]http://www.dateinasia.com/kelly_villan.html[/url]
Sorry, let me try to find her again. In the meantime, check out oyang.
Too good to be true, but what the hell.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1222634]Are you missing something here X man? This one? Which one?[/QUOTE]
Just joined filipina cupid, almost instantly had two chats with supposed filipina women in Ghana. What are the odds of that?
[QUOTE=Teamsatan;1223600]Just joined filipina cupid, almost instantly had two chats with supposed filipina women in Ghana. What are the odds of that?[/QUOTE]This could be a good thing. Ghana may have a lower carabao mortality rate.
[QUOTE=Teamsatan;1223600]Just joined filipina cupid, almost instantly had two chats with supposed filipina women in Ghana. What are the odds of that?[/QUOTE]Hmmm. What are the odds? I can honestly say that last time I was in Ghana, December 24th of last year, I did meet a Pinay in the grocery store. However, she was in fact married to a poriner who was working there at the time. But I think the chances are higher that it is someone trying to scam you than it being an actual Filipina. You said it was on filipinacupid. Well whenever I have my membership active on one of the cupid sites and I try to log in from Ghana or Nigeria without using a proxy server they will always block me out until I get back to a country that is not restricted under their TOS and send them an email explaining that it was me and not a scammer.
Gentlemen,
Thanks to the wealth of information on this tread and advice from some veterans, I will be making my maiden trip to manila next week. As part of my preparation, I have been chatting up a few cuties on FC and DIA. There is this particular dia chick that we hit it off real strong and have been chatting up a storm. She is interesting, well educated and informed. And you ask what is the problem? The problem is that I'm not really sure if she is a ladyboy. Something just seems off with some of her pictures, something I cannot put my finger on. Consequently, I am asking for assistance from those more practiced than I am. Here's her dia profile and blog:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/autumn23.html[/url]
[url]www.autumnflamingwonderland.********.com[/url]
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1224307]I am asking for assistance from those more practiced than I am.[/QUOTE]1. Chat with her on webcam and look closely.
2. Phone her and listen to her voice.
[QUOTE=Carlos3000; 1224307]Gentlemen,
Thanks to the wealth of information on this tread and advice from some veterans, I will be making my maiden trip to manila next week. As part of my preparation, I have been chatting up a few cuties on FC and DIA. There is this particular dia chick that we hit it off real strong and have been chatting up a storm. She is interesting, well educated and informed. And you ask what is the problem? The problem is that I'm not really sure if she is a ladyboy. Something just seems off with some of her pictures, something I cannot put my finger on. Consequently, I am asking for assistance from those more practiced than I am. Here's her dia profile and blog:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/autumn23.html[/url]
[url]www.autumnflamingwonderland.********.com[/url]
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Simple. Ask it. They will almost always tell you if they are.
Really if you cannot handle such a simple task, the Phil is no place for you.
Other ways, ask her for cam and look at her body.
She does not appear to have an adam's apple-so she probably is not.
She is young so thats good reason not to have kids yet.
When she gets to like you well, you can ask her to undress for you on cam.
I have never had a problem with this, ever. It's a trivial task really.
[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1224307]Something just seems off with some of her pictures, something I cannot put my finger on.[/QUOTE]Is there an unintended pun, here? Not a posed, glamour type photo - tick. Not unusually tall - tick. Not with a masculine shaped face - tick. Passes my initial LB detector test and seems to be all woman. But go ahead and ask her. If she isn't, she will think it hilariously funny.
[QUOTE=Carlos3000; 1224307]The problem is that I'm not really sure if she is a ladyboy. Something just seems off with some of her pictures, something I cannot put my finger on. Consequently, I am asking for assistance from those more practiced than I am. Here's her dia profile and blog:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/autumn23.html[/url]
[url]www.autumnflamingwonderland.********.com[/url]
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Dude that is a woman. You guys need to stop being so paranoid. But you are all into her and have not even talked to her on the phone? Like David said phone and/or cam is the way to go. They all have phones and they all have cams, so there is no excuse. The voice is sure to give it away if nothing else.
*Disclaimer: I have not seen the blog pictures because the site name was blocked. The "flaming" part would kind of scare me though!
This "woman" also hit me up on DIA. Too ugly for me whatever it is.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1224430]Dude that is a woman. You guys need to stop being so paranoid. But you are all into her and have not even talked to her on the phone? Like David said phone and / or cam is the way to go. They all have phones and they all have cams, so there is no excuse. The voice is sure to give it away if nothing else.
*Disclaimer: I have not seen the blog pictures because the site name was blocked. The "flaming" part would kind of scare me though![/QUOTE]
Carlos3000, just ask her under a different name or have another member ask her.
The long info in her profile and admitting she smokes may be hints she is a LB.
I am. Since DIA kicked me off and never had the curtesy to tell why, on [url]www.tagged[/url]. And got a lot of nice chats. Those are no scammers. More real.
Will see in January when there, whats the sucess rate.
[QUOTE=Botaki6; 1225805]I am. Since DIA kicked me off and never had the curtesy to tell why, on.
[url]www.tagged[/url]
And got a lot of nice chats. Those are no scammers. More real.[/QUOTE]And as far as who the ladyboys are, most will say it in their profile (at least those in Thailand). If not, there is more than one picture to judge from unlike DIA.
[QUOTE=Algol;1221953]So even though she may be a scammer, I plan to keep her.[/QUOTE]Scammer or survivor, doing whatever it takes to feed her kids. So would I.
Love is not blind, but very pragmatic.
Thank you for sharing this experience. You have heart, mate. Hat's off for what you did.
Best Regards, Barba
A dia lass by the name " the sun also rises " states in her profile.
"SOMEONE ALSO REMIND ME:
That SOME of the worst men come to this site. They are the ones that cannot get a girl in their country. They are the losers, the fat, the ugly, the old and the BAD.
Some are also businessmen that have opportunity to travel in Asia.
They want to go to the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand for Sexual Gratification.
Speaking of sex. This is the main goal of MOST men in here.
But the problem is that most of these hungry sex hunting Devils are quite capable of acting nice, using sweet words, and making false promises.
They often take advantage of the hopes and dreams of young asians.
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Who are these men who are old ugly fat and bad losers. They should be ashamed of themselves!
Merry Christmas Mongers!
Have a long time chatfriend who I met once and we did the Sogo short time thing which I can remember for the fact I have a funny video of her with my dick in her ass and she is saying " I never got fucked in the ass before "
Fast forward 15 months to a chat we had yesterday when the subject came around to anal joy. She says she has never been done in the ass, and wouldn't want to do that.
I reminded her that we had in fact enjoyed such a pleasure and she replies " we did that, ? Oh I don't remember ". These gals will sometimes say anything to anyone.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1226372]But the problem is that most of these hungry sex hunting Devils are quite capable of acting nice, using sweet words, and making false promises.[/QUOTE]Someone should remind her not to spend time and money seeking those deplaning devils out on DIA, but to stick with the local, non-verbal, saints riding jeepneys. They are stand-up guys who would never lie to get into a girl's panties. Nor would they ever head for another province when she utters the b word. Problem solved!
There'll still be a steady supply of single mothers who won't mind meeting up for a C2 or two at JolliBees after she's left DIA. For some odd reason. ;)
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1226372]A dia lass by the name " the sun also rises " states in her profile.
"SOMEONE ALSO REMIND ME:
That SOME of the worst men come to this site. They are the ones that cannot get a girl in their country. They are the losers, the fat, the ugly, the old and the BAD.
Some are also businessmen that have opportunity to travel in Asia.
They want to go to the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand for Sexual Gratification.
Speaking of sex. This is the main goal of MOST men in here.
But the problem is that most of these hungry sex hunting Devils are quite capable of acting nice, using sweet words, and making false promises.
They often take advantage of the hopes and dreams of young asians.
Who are these men who are old ugly fat and bad losers. They should be ashamed of themselves!
[/QUOTE]She's cute and pretty damn articulate for a DIA girl I must say.
Something really funny happened to me and I thought I shall share and I think this is the most appropriate topic.
Yesterday I stumbled upon this porn website Trike patrol which is a collection of Filipino amateurs (I wonder if the webmaster is a member here. I am almost sure he is. LOL) and I see these girls. Che and Charm [url]http://hosted.***********.com/fhg/che-charm-set-2-vid/[/url] And I realize that Charm is Hydeh, a girl that I picked on Tagged and meet in Cebu together with her friend Cheryl (Che). How cool is this to be able to have two pornstars for a night for less than how much the video costs to watch? LOL.
The girls were pretty good and I will probably meet them again when I get back to Cebu. I will have my private pornstar treatment.
So, this DIA 'girl' is not only remarkably articulate, but also a Hemingway fan? . C'mon! Every once in a while you will find a DIA profile that is written in excellent English, thoughtful and polished. Invariably, if you contact the 'girl', she is either monosyllabic, or her native English speaking 'friend' is keyboarding the reply."If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck". Then it aint a Filipina!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1226372]A dia lass by the name " the sun also rises " states in her profile.
" SOME of the worst men come to this site. They are the ones that cannot get a girl in their country. They are the losers, the fat, the ugly, the old and the BAD.
Some are also businessmen that have opportunity to travel in Asia.
They want to go to the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand for Sexual Gratification.
Speaking of sex. This is the main goal of MOST men in here.
![/QUOTE]Yes. Absolutely true! . But as long as the girls have a chance of 1:100 to find a husband, they will take the gamble.
[QUOTE=Questor55;1226748]So, this DIA 'girl' is not only remarkably articulate, but also a Hemingway fan? . C'mon! Every once in a while you will find a DIA profile that is written in excellent English, thoughtful and polished. Invariably, if you contact the 'girl', she is either monosyllabic, or her native English speaking 'friend' is keyboarding the reply."If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck". Then it aint a Filipina![/QUOTE]Actually I have found a few very well educated women on DIA. Yes, the majority are uneducated or monosyllabic. But it depends on what you are looking for. If you look hard on some of these sites you will find them. And along the way you may find someone who writes for them although I have never found that. I admit it must be a bummer when you do. But you can sort that out pretty quickly when you phone them on Skype. I have a special Skype name for those I meet online.
But the educated ladies (and they are usually 30 +) are not of interest to many people trawling DIA or any of the other sites. Actually I like them. They are more open-minded, great company and very sexual. Great to spend long periods of quality time with. But of course it is also nice to meet the young nymphos for a bit of short time fun. But never for anything more than short time because otherwise it gets boring. Just my humble opinion. Each to his own.
By Non Alquitran The Philippine Star Updated December 15, 2011 12:00 AM
MANILA, Philippines. The prime suspect in the killing of a British national who arrived in the country to propose to his Filipina girlfriend, was arrested in Laguna on Tuesday afternoon. Chief Superintendent Gil Meneses, Calabarzon police director, said the suspect, Anselmo Lacontales. 28, was tagged as the one who stabbed dead John Lorne McDonald. 28, out of jealousy.
Lacontales was arrested by joint operatives of the Regional Special Operations Group, Regional Intelligence Division, Regional Public Safety Battalion, and the Rizal and Angono town police in his rented apartment in Barangay 2B, San Pablo City. He was arrested on the strength of an arrest warrant issued by Judge Ma. Conchita Lucero-de Mesa of the Binangonan Regional Trial Court Branch 70.
Meneses said McDonald fell for a Filipina who placed details about herself on an Internet dating site. McDonald, a Scotsman, packed his bags and flew to Angono town in Rizal to propose to his chat-room lover, Nanqueen Romero. 31, whom he met for the first time in September last year. Meneses said they have witnesses who pointed to Lacontales as the attacker of McDonald. Police learned that Romero maintained a relationship with Lacontales and that she failed to tell McDonald about it.
Lacontales is now under the custody of the Angono police. He is scheduled to be turned over to the court, which will then issue his commitment order in a facility of the Bureau of Jail Management and Penology.
I saw this posting on same day. Same time on the same page on DIA.Davao Page
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/erich0384.html[/url]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/rechel03.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Member #1210; 1227298]I saw this posting on same day. Same time on the same page on DIA. Davao Page.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/erich0384.html[/url]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/rechel03.html[/url][/QUOTE]It really doesn't matter unless you're looking to play the Crying Game. :D
[QUOTE=Member #1210; 1227298]I saw this posting on same day. Same time on the same page on DIA. Davao Page.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/erich0384.html[/url]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/rechel03.html[/url][/QUOTE]Same midget ladyboy.
Lady aged 24 contacts me today. Wants to know more about me. Pic on her profile looks good.
We chat, she works in a bank, and has recently moved to her own apartment in Makati.
So far so good.
She sees me and says of course that I'm handsome.
Says she wants to invite me to her apartment and I will be the first to see her place.
So far very good.
She opens her cam and theres a big pair of susu on display and she's playing with her nipples.
So why wouldn't this be good?
Because she was about 300 pounds and butt ugly. !
Was perusing through some sweet young things when I came upon one ladies profile and under religion, she had put CHATOLIC. Which for some girls is exactly what thier religion is. No rosaries or Hail Marys needed, only a keyboard that works!
Young lady by the name of Pinky Carranza was met on a website today. Nice pic and she made a nice intro to me.
Within minutes I'm her new " honey ".
Then she lays the bait." ahh I see honey yeah really hot here in my room thats why I am waering sexy outfit
Pinky Carranza: ahh I see honey "
Yeah I have a cam and I will invite you honey but I'm so shy for you because I'm bikini here now in my small home because so hot here in my coutry and my small home".
She's a slim girl, long hair, in bra and panties.
After having laid the bait and of course told me how handsome I am she gets sorrowful.
"honey because I'm honest to you I'm talking the owners of the house my house rent because I'm not paying 2months my house rent so thats why I'm already to kick me out the owners of the house "
She hten gets desperate, withuot changing her expression.
"and I'm so scared because if kick me out the owners of the house I really really don't know where to go and sleep I don't like to sleep on my street "
She then lays out her plan."
Your so sweet but I wish you can help me even small amount from your heart "
And sweetens the deal with " and don't worry honey what you like for me I will give "
She then realises that she's not talking with Santa Claus who has no interest in making a charitable donation. So funny!
[QUOTE=Simian; 1227103]Actually I have found a few very well educated women on DIA. Yes, the majority are uneducated or monosyllabic. But it depends on what you are looking for. If you look hard on some of these sites you will find them. And along the way you may find someone who writes for them although I have never found that. I admit it must be a bummer when you do. But you can sort that out pretty quickly when you phone them on Skype. I have a special Skype name for those I meet online.
But the educated ladies (and they are usually 30 +) are not of interest to many people trawling DIA or any of the other sites. Actually I like them. They are more open-minded, great company and very sexual. Great to spend long periods of quality time with. But of course it is also nice to meet the young nymphos for a bit of short time fun. But never for anything more than short time because otherwise it gets boring. Just my humble opinion. Each to his own.[/QUOTE]I find the educated, English proficient ones good to talk with and as friends but most of them, imo, would not make good mates. I find they are frequently too independent and often it is difficult to get to know them as they are working and have little time for chat. I use them to get good information on the R. P. And to better understand how things work there; they are often good sources for that.
I had one that was very English proficient, smart and a good listener but she was CHEAP, not the typical giving Filipina. I dropped here because she was too cheap to maintain a good net connection.
The usual fare at DIA drives me up the wall. You often have to repeat things 3-4 times for them to understand you, or you have to ask them to rephrase things because their English is so bad, it is incomprehensible. Also a fair percentage are just plain STOOPID.
What's difficult to find is the an English proficient intelligent woman who is also feminine and sweet. That's hard to find in my experience. My last g / f from Brasil was like that, a rare gem in a sea of barracuda.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1229306]What's difficult to find is the an English proficient intelligent woman who is also feminine and sweet.[/QUOTE]You might have some luck with the more social networks like Facebook or Tagged. I hooked up with a girl who works in Europe who was back for a vacation, and all she wanted to do was screw. Dressed very well. Still, hard to figure out who is coming back just when.
As my good buddy Red Kilt and others have oft' reiterated, it's not difficult at all to find intelligent, decently-educated, thoroughly sweet (malambing) women here. It just takes time and a willingness to search in the right places. Often, it also requires extended physical presence since you never know when a chance encounter is going to allow you to strike the mother lode. I've yet to meet a single long-term expat here who hasn't found such a relationship providing that he was looking for one in the first place. Conversely, I've met very few long-termers who continue to occupy themselves exclusively with endless streams of young-often not very sophisticated-women. The fact is, that after a while it just gets boring and loses its allure. When you're surrounded constantly by all the candy you can eat, after a while you foreswear candy, or at least get more selective about how much and what type you eat.
GE
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1229306]. .
The usual fare at DIA drives me up the wall. You often have to repeat things 3-4 times for them to understand you, or you have to ask them to rephrase things because their English is so bad, it is incomprehensible. Also a fair percentage are just plain STOOPID.[/QUOTE]I agree with you TC One but we all know that you cannot fix "stoopid" so just move on if her intellect is insufficient. However, I don't think it is fair to either get angry or exasperated by their lack of English.
In most cases, even the most "stoopid" one's English is still way better than my Tagalog, so I just accept her level and either accommodate it or move on.
There is something for everyone, even on DIA.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1229324]. .<SNIP > . Often, it also requires extended physical presence since you never know when a chance encounter is going to allow you to strike the mother lode.[/QUOTE]This is a key element as stated by GE. Those of us who live here just go with the flow and can roam around malls and other venues containing endless eye candy without the "deer in the headlights" look that characterizes so many short-term mongers who are urgently looking for a FL to hit on or to hit on them.
GE and I have often mused about how the best encounter often occurs when it is least expected. If the timing is not convenient, we have the advantage of simply collecting a CP # for a time when it is convenient.
Have been doing the DIA thing for a while and see that most are scammers of some sort, but I just made a post on craiglist MNL and expected the worst of the worst, but was pleasantly surprised by the response to my post on 'men seeking women' for a 'travel companion' and got 6 or 7 decent sounding replies and a few were educated and worldly. Just one obvious professional replied and just wanted to have fun on the beach with me.
Just wondering what other's experiences on craigslist have been?
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1229306]I find the educated, English proficient ones good to talk with and as friends but most of them, imo, would not make good mates. I find they are frequently too independent and often it is difficult to get to know them as they are working and have little time for chat. I use them to get good information on the R. P. And to better understand how things work there; they are often good sources for that.[/quote]Too independent because they have a job and as a result do not have all day to spend chatting with you? I thought that was exactly the type of woman you were looking for. Smart, had a good job, insatiable sexual appitite, owner of an 12millionP+ condo with good security and a 24hr pool located in an upscale part of town with no beggars or scams. A place where you can freeload endlessly while you get yourself situated. LMAO. Oh wait, scratch that, I forgot since you will never visit the 'RofP' chat availability is now the most important quality.
[quote]I had one that was very English proficient, smart and a good listener but she was CHEAP, not the typical giving Filipina. I dropped here because she was too cheap to maintain a good net connection. The usual fare at DIA drives me up the wall.[/quote]If the "usual fare' as you call it drives you up the wall then join a pay dating website. Simple, problem solved and all for the low low price of around $19. 99 US for a one month trial membership. I think you are the cheap one, stop your whining about the lack of quality on DIA and do something about it. Most of the better pay websites have chatrooms and or popup chat boxes along with better email filter features and vastly improved search functions that allow you to zero in on your women of choice.
[quote]You often have to repeat things 3-4 times for them to understand you, or you have to ask them to rephrase things because their English is so bad, it is incomprehensible. Also a fair percentage are just plain STOOPID. What's difficult to find is the an English proficient intelligent woman who is also feminine and sweet.[/quote]Here is something that might come as a shocker to you, but women from the Philippines are often tri-lingual with the English language being the third or sometimes fourth language learned. (Tagalog, Bisaya, English, Cebuano, Illonggo, ect, ect)
Some woman who have worked as OFW's in Europe, the Middle East or in the worldwide cruise line industry often are proficient or can converse enough to get by in 5 or 6 languages. How many do you know?
Judging by your 'What's difficult to find is the an English proficient intelligent woman" comment, you are beyond calling the kettle black.
There is a logical reason why you have to repeat things 3 or 4 times to some of your chatmates and it's only obvious to someone who has stepped foot inside a netcafe in the Philippines. Your chatmates are chatting with multiple guys at any one time. I have seen countless women sitting in small netcafes all over the Philippines and most women have limited chat time available. They will try to cram in as many chat connections as they can in the smallest amount of time. Woman chatting with a dozen guys at once and have multiple cams open in a netcafe is a very common thing. They often type one message to a guy and then cut and paste it to all the others. It's a fascinating and very revealing look in the life of a chat girl when you can sit near by and watch her in action.
Or maybe she isn't that into you di ba.
[QUOTE=Lamok; 1229473]Have been doing the DIA thing for a while and see that most are scammers of some sort, but I just made a post on craiglist MNL and expected the worst of the worst, but was pleasantly surprised by the response to my post on 'men seeking women' for a 'travel companion' and got 6 or 7 decent sounding replies and a few were educated and worldly. Just one obvious professional replied and just wanted to have fun on the beach with me.
Just wondering what other's experiences on craigslist have been?[/QUOTE]There was a discussion awhile back about the Manila craigslist section (8-12months ago) do a search on this section and on the Manila section to find the exact posts.
PS- Like the nickname.
[QUOTE=Lamok; 1229473]Have been doing the DIA thing for a while and see that most are scammers of some sort, but I just made a post on craiglist MNL and expected the worst of the worst, but was pleasantly surprised by the response to my post on 'men seeking women' for a 'travel companion' and got 6 or 7 decent sounding replies and a few were educated and worldly. Just one obvious professional replied and just wanted to have fun on the beach with me.
Just wondering what other's experiences on craigslist have been?[/QUOTE]I use craigslist as a useful agendum to DIA and have had reasonable success. Two of the girls I have met also have profiles on DIA. I make it perfectly clear in my ad that I am only looking for companionship and not a relationship.
Her name is khazzie nielsen. She's a fucking cam girl. First I'm very interested with her because she's mixed american asia. She give me her I'd on fb, ym. So be carefull with this gurl. And never send money to her. All great points thanks. Something is working for the scammers. I was soo pissed yesterday. I went in deep and caught a scammer red handed. But today she is at it again. Be CAREFUL.
[url]http://www.filipinocupid.com/en/profile/showProfile/ID/3677994[/url]
It began as usual. She wrote in the profile she is from Manila, when I said I'm too, she said now she has gone to the province to be with her mom and then began the usual back and forth drama. How she lost her mobile and she is poor but she like me very much and she will switch on the cam later as her mom is sitting with her. I knew it was a scam but went in anyway.
I decided to fish and went over board in saying, that I will send her money to come to manila and I'm sending her 15, 000 pesos for plane ticket, one mobile phone and some pocket money. She was so confident, she fell for it and gave away her real name and address and it was what you know in Manila.
Leilany delos Reyes
6035 Tatalon st ugong valenzuala city.
Manila.
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She was waiting for like 3 hrs to get the money, all the while saying, its her aunties home. I fooled around and made her go to mhullier office thrice to confirm. Finally, I said. My Filipino friends from QC are coming directly to her home to give money in hand as you have not received it yet. She started to panic. I opened her up and threaten to visit her home. Her last message was. I just had the fake I'd. Ok bye.
I saw her live again today, so obviously, its working for her. What more can we do but to warn others. If I go to Valenzuela to confront her. I will return in a body bag LOL.
I agree. More and more scammer don't see any distinction anymore. They are after everyone now a days.
Yep. It could be that. Never thought like that way. More and more Indians are traveling to south east Asia and feeling it easy to get laid and in process getting cleaned up as well. I think Indians are more vulnerable in that, they know english as well, so chatting won't be an issue unlike for koreans and japanese folks. So ya Indians are also the easy target now a days. Thanks[/QUOTE]
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While I, and I believe many other mongers, find it much easier to navigate and monger in a place that speaks my language, I find it far more "STOOPID" of anyone to expect a high level of English proficiency from people that don't use English as their native language. For all that are frustrated by the lack of English these girls from the Philippines have, why don't you learn to speak Tagalog at a minimum? In my book, there is nothing more stupid than going to a foreign country and expecting them to speak you language or do things they way you are used to at home. Learn how to adapt to the environment you freely put yourself into. Don't expect the natives to adapt to you.
IMHO.
HW
[QUOTE=Member #1210; 1227298]I saw this posting on same day. Same time on the same page on DIA. Davao Page.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/erich0384.html[/url]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/rechel03.html[/url][/QUOTE]Now I see why some guys have a phobia of taking a ladyboy back to the room. I guess they really can't tell the difference between a man and a woman.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1229700]While I, and I believe many other mongers, find it much easier to navigate and monger in a place that speaks my language, I find it far more "STOOPID" of anyone to expect a high level of English proficiency from people that don't use English as their native language. For all that are frustrated by the lack of English these girls from the Philippines have, why don't you learn to speak Tagalog at a minimum? In my book, there is nothing more stupid than going to a foreign country and expecting them to speak you language or do things they way you are used to at home. Learn how to adapt to the environment you freely put yourself into. Don't expect the natives to adapt to you.
IMHO.
HW[/QUOTE]I will tell you what is "Stoopid". And ignorant. Not knowing that the USA is the predominant power in the world (like it or not) and that English is the world language if there is one.
Not knowing that Filipinas IF they go to school are taught English through all the grades, whereas Westerners are not taught Tagalog. Not knowing that there are many dialects in the P. I. Depending how what region you are in.
I intend to learn Tagalog when I live there, however, English is the official language of Gov. And business in the P. I.
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[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1230138]I intend to learn Tagalog when I live there, however, English is the official language of Gov. And business in the P. I.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised that you don't mention that it is also the legal language since the early 30's (following a transition period from Spanish to English that lasted about thirty years, if memory serves). It is indeed helpful when conducting business in Phil. When chasing good pussy, however, some knowledge of Tagalog can be quite useful. So good luck on your quest. BTW, when do you intend to set foot on Philippine soil?
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1230138]I will tell you what is "Stoopid". And ignorant. Not knowing that the USA is the predominant power in the world (like it or not) and that English is the world language if there is one.
Not knowing that Filipinas IF they go to school are taught English through all the grades, whereas Westerners are not taught Tagalog. Not knowing that there are many dialects in the P. I. Depending how what region you are in.
I intend to learn Tagalog when I live there, however, English is the official language of Gov. And business in the P. I.[/QUOTE]The thing is that I don't believe many of the women who guys on this board deal with are in government or the type of business where they would absolutely need English. Not even to speak on how far they have gone in school. I was a high school French teacher in the mighty USA and I had second year French students who did not know that bonjour meant Hello. If this is the case in a first world country then why the fuck would anyone expect a third world country such as the Philippines to be different or better?
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I came across this girl on DIA. Not sure she is the brightest spark because we are exchanging messages using both profiles. Anyway got chatting to her and she said she would come to my hotel and keep me company etc etc, so I asked her to send some photos. I received an email with some non-nude snaps which she had forwarded to about 8 different guys at the same time LOL!
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/sexygirl_gorgeous.html[/url]
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/sexybabe09.html[/url]
TC1, please separate out the other posters quotes from yours. Its difficult to tell where yours leave off and his starts.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1230160]*haha, Filipino pretending to be Westerner who cannot handle the truth about the Filipinas on DIA and the P. I. Nakita mo ba talo?[/QUOTE]Like so.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1230160]*haha, Filipino pretending to be Westerner who cannot handle the truth about the Filipinas on DIA and the P. I. Nakita mo ba talo?[/QUOTE]And so.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1230160]*haha, Filipino pretending to be Westerner who cannot handle the truth about the Filipinas on DIA and the P. I. Nakita mo ba talo?[/QUOTE]In your dreams you wished I was a local but too bad for you that's not the case. It's easier for you to try to deflect attention away from your nonsense babble than to actually hear what someone else has to say.
For you life is all the same. Same room, same walls, same area code, same life. While I, like other members on ISG have roamed far and wide.
You have never sat at a barstool in the old LA Cafe (new MBC) and had fun drinking with the playful girls or strolled on a beautiful night through greenbelt in Makati and enjoyed a great meal in the company of a gorgeous young woman. You have never sat poolside at Livingstones in Bangkok. The white lights shimmering off the water and enjoyed amazing thai food in the company of the very elegant Som and a few fellow ISG'ers and our dates. You have never walked fields avenue after dark with all the adult disneyland attractions both good and bad it has to offer. You have never felt the walk of shame from the front desk girls or the secret thumbs up from the bellboys as you parade three girls up to your hotel room. You have never watched a beautiful sunset from the deck of a banca boat off the coast of Cebu with your GF after a day of island hopping.
You sir have never done any of those things. I said it once and I will say it again, get your ass on a plane and go visit the Philippines for yourself then maybe you can provide information from a more informed perspective. My point is, before you give out misguided information on subjects you know very little about and have never experienced in real life, do not be so quick to dismiss others who have actually been there and done that. Many of the senior members who post here live full time in the Philippines or spend vast amounts of time there and are a huge source of good information while all you have done is chat with a few filipinas and you think you know it all.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1230160]*haha, Filipino pretending to be Westerner who cannot handle the truth about the Filipinas on DIA and the P. I. Nakita mo ba talo?[/QUOTE]You quoted his whole entry just to leave a smart comment. If you look next to his name in the quote, you can click and read the whole entry. It is not necessary to quote long passages.
Thanks,
Slim
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1230286]You have never sat at a barstool in the old LA Cafe (new MBC) and had fun drinking with the playful girls or strolled on a beautiful night through greenbelt in Makati and enjoyed a great meal in the company of a gorgeous young woman. You have never sat poolside at Livingstones in Bangkok. The white lights shimmering off the water and enjoyed amazing thai food in the company of the very elegant Som and a few fellow ISG'ers and our dates. You have never walked fields avenue after dark with all the adult disneyland attractions both good and bad it has to offer. You have never felt the walk of shame from the front desk girls or the secret thumbs up from the bellboys as you parade three girls up to your hotel room. You have never watched a beautiful sunset from the deck of a banca boat off the coast of Cebu with your GF after a day of island hopping.[/QUOTE]Stoker that's almost poetic, and a rather perfect description of the joys of Livingstone's Lodge as well as MBC and Greenbelt.
I read this almost by chance, since I don't pay much attention any more to that guy's ignorance, but your post caught my eye. Hat's off to you. You've captured the essence, of these places, and your description will resonate for those of us who live the experience. By implication, you raise another valid point, which is that it's really not possible to credibly fake having been somewhere you've never been; not when a large part of your audience is comprised of guys who have been there multiple times or who actually are there. My advice, which will be followed by few if any, is just to ignore this guy who has little of value and nothing of interest to say.
GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1230332]Stoker that's almost poetic, and a rather perfect description of the joys of Livingstone's Lodge as well as MBC and Greenbelt.
I read this almost by chance, since I don't pay much attention any more to that guy's ignorance, but your post caught my eye. Hat's off to you. You've captured the essence, of these places, and your description will resonate for those of us who live the experience. By implication, you raise another valid point, which is that it's really not possible to credibly fake having been somewhere you've never been; not when a large part of your audience is comprised of guys who have been there multiple times or who actually are there. My advice, which will be followed by few if any, is just to ignore this guy who has little of value and nothing of interest to say.
GE[/QUOTE]I agree. I need to write these down. My Itinerary for my next trip! LOL.
1) Sit at a barstool in the old LA Cafe (new MBC) and have fun drinking with the playful girls.
2) Stroll on a beautiful night through greenbelt in Makati and enjoy a great meal in the company of a gorgeous young woman.
3) Sit poolside at Livingstones in Bangkok. The white lights shimmering off the water and enjoy amazing thai food in the company of the very elegant Som and a few fellow ISG'ers and our dates.
4) Walk fields avenue after dark with all the adult disneyland attractions both good and bad it has to offer.
5) Feel the walk of shame from the front desk girls or the secret thumbs up from the bellboys as you parade three girls up to your hotel room.
6) Watch a beautiful sunset from the deck of a banca boat off the coast of Cebu with your GF after a day of island hopping.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1230332]My advice, which will be followed by few if any, is just to ignore this guy who has little of value and nothing of interest to say.
GE[/QUOTE]Agreed, no need to waste more time.
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1230187]I received an email with some non-nude snaps which she had forwarded to about 8 different guys at the same time LOL![/QUOTE]At 150 cm and 38 kg she is excused.
Cute girl, Fatboy. Go for it.
Barba
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1230286]In your dreams you wished I was a local but too bad for you that's not the case. It's easier for you to try to deflect attention away from your nonsense babble than to actually hear what someone else has to say.
For you life is all the same. Same room, same walls, same area code, same life. While I, like other members on ISG have roamed far and wide.
You have never sat at a barstool in the old LA Cafe (new MBC) and had fun drinking with the playful girls or strolled on a beautiful night through greenbelt in Makati and enjoyed a great meal in the company of a gorgeous young woman. You have never sat poolside at Livingstones in Bangkok. The white lights shimmering off the water and enjoyed amazing thai food in the company of the very elegant Som and a few fellow ISG'ers and our dates. You have never walked fields avenue after dark with all the adult disneyland attractions both good and bad it has to offer. You have never felt the walk of shame from the front desk girls or the secret thumbs up from the bellboys as you parade three girls up to your hotel room. You have never watched a beautiful sunset from the deck of a banca boat off the coast of Cebu with your GF after a day of island hopping.
You sir have never done any of those things.[/QUOTE]I did all the stuff you're talking about probably while most of the guys here were still watching Bullwinkle or some similar TV show as children. Except I did it in Mexico, not the R. P. Mexico shares some similarities to the RP, but now it has become too dangerous with the drug war going on. You have never spent Christmas at Pier de la Cuesta on a pristine beach with a receding horizon and spectacular sunsets with foreigners from all over the world, while native Indian Mexicans served you a multi course dinner all freshly caught seafood, fresh meats, tortillas and tequilla, then finished with a communal pot sauna under fire of coconut shells. You, sir, make alot of assumptions and most of them are false.
What you do not seem to grasp is that I am older and I don't have time to waste on
Bad moves, so I will wait until such time as the probabilities of good success in LIVING.
In the R. P. Are apparent. I am not coming there with the intention of returning, IF I come at all. Actually, I have started to look at other countries. The women are not as friendly, but I find that friendliness of FIlipinas is mostly an illusion anyways, part of the cultural / female schtick of luring foeigners who are frequently milked dry by the inhospitable, government sanctioned climate for foreigners there.
I once had an opportunity to interview for a job with the Feds long ago. When I told them my choice would be the R. P. The Personnel Director said: Really? Most of our employees do not want to be stationed there. I think she was talking about Manila but to a lesser extent that applies to the rest of the Country as well.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1230529]. Actually, I have started to look at other countries. The women are not as friendly, but I find that friendliness of FIlipinas is mostly an illusion anyways, part of the cultural / female schtick of luring foeigners who are frequently milked dry by the inhospitable, government sanctioned climate for foreigners there.[/QUOTE]I think many of us are probably quite happy to hear this. Good luck with your new choice of country, and we hope that you will frequently inhabit the board of that country with as much enthusiasm and lack of knowledge as you have done with the Philippines.
No doubt we have all heard a Filipina exclaim " but you promised me" many times in our lives.
For those not familiar with the Philippines (TC1 take note here) , a conversation with a Filipina can touch upon many subjects, but if any one of those subjects / words is of remote interest to said Filipina, and involves a possible gain for her, its taken to be a promise.
From a Western aspect, the words " I promise" create a binding obligation.
From a Filipina aspect the words " at some stage in the future I might possibly or ocassionally think about this " creates the perception of a promise.
In the spirit of Christmas I sent a " Mery Christmas " to all my YM fucks, both new and old. One such girl who I hadn't chatted with for over a year sent me back a " Freebie, you lied to me " reply.
And then told me I had promised her a job.
The conversation I had had with her, related to her requesting a job from me (admittedly my pants were down and she had just blown me in Sogo) and me replying along the lines of " sure I check and see if we have any vacancies "
So the next time you are said to have made a promise, ask your Filipina what her understanding of a promise is vs yours.
Got all that TC1?
[QUOTE=Fatboy 1980;1230187]I came across this girl on DIA.[/QUOTE]She does look pretty cute, and posts the same basic information in each profile. Maybe she is just trying to increase her presence in hopes of snagging more "sponsors." If she offered to keep you company at the hotel, go for it. If she doesn't work out, send her packing. If she does make you happy, great for you! Either way, post a report about her when you are done.
Enjoy!
HW
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1230332]My advice, which will be followed by few if any, is just to ignore this guy who has little of value and nothing of interest to say.
GE[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you GE. It's just difficult to hold back comments about stupid posts by such an obvious idiot. But I will do my best to take your advice and simply ignore his rambling.
After honorably serving in the US military, and working as a US Federal employee for a combined total of 26 years, I have never heard of anyone that did not want to take a position in Philippines. Perhaps that was back when it was occupied by the Japanese. LMAO
HW
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1230529]In the R. P. Are apparent. I am not coming there with the intention of returning, IF I come at all. Actually, I have started to look at other countries. The women are not as friendly, but I find that friendliness of FIlipinas is mostly an illusion anyways, part of the cultural / female schtick of luring foeigners who are frequently milked dry by the inhospitable, government sanctioned climate for foreigners there.[/QUOTE]That's great news Turdycurdyone. All encouragement to you to look at and move onto another country. You repeatedly say you do not like the Philippines, and now you find the friendliness of the Filipina is an illusion. So please quickly move on and leave the Philippines, Filipina, and this Forum, to guys who appreciate this country.
[QUOTE=KongKing;1230640]That's great news Turdycurdyone. All encouragement to you to look at and move onto another country. You repeatedly say you do not like the Philippines, and now you find the friendliness of the Filipina is an illusion. So please quickly move on and leave the Philippines, Filipina, and this Forum, to guys who appreciate this country.[/QUOTE]Try Iraq, Iran or Pakistan. Friendly girls and sweet guys just for you. LOL
GE, KK and all the other guys constantly posting positive reports of the Philippines are paid PR agents that are here only to lure people to travel to this hell hole. I have met them and seen their illusive smiles, sipping cheap red wine pored into expensive bottles, while they sugar coat the life offered in this war zone. Do not trust these gentlemen. They will corrupt you.
They fooled me to return over and over again, wasting my precious dollars and time. I neglected all the warnings and words of wisdom from more trustworthy sources, and took immense personal risk while chasing passive aggressive psychopaths, often with drug addictions and false tits.
Turdycurdyone and everyone else even considering the Philippines, hear the truth from Barba. It is not worth the risk! Davao is the worst place of them all. You are absolutely correct about this country of false, backstabbing sociopaths. The sex is lousy as well, if you even will manage to score. Most guys come with their expectations high, only to find themselves masturbating themselves to sleep every night. There are so many better options for safe and clean sex.
Attached you find pictures of one of Satan's teenage children that had my head twisted 180 degrees. I hold Mr GoodEnough personally responsible for getting me drunk on red wine and making me make her dress up like this.
Finland here I come. A clean, safe and honest country!
Barba
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1230547]No doubt we have all heard a Filipina exclaim " but you promised me" many times in our lives.
For those not familiar with the Philippines (TC1 take note here) , a conversation with a Filipina can touch upon many subjects, but if any one of those subjects / words is of remote interest to said Filipina, and involves a possible gain for her, its taken to be a promise.
From a Western aspect, the words " I promise" create a binding obligation.
From a Filipina aspect the words " at some stage in the future I might possibly or ocassionally think about this " creates the perception of a promise.
In the spirit of Christmas I sent a " Mery Christmas " to all my YM fucks, both new and old. One such girl who I hadn't chatted with for over a year sent me back a " Freebie, you lied to me " reply.
And then told me I had promised her a job.
The conversation I had had with her, related to her requesting a job from me (admittedly my pants were down and she had just blown me in Sogo) and me replying along the lines of " sure I check and see if we have any vacancies "
So the next time you are said to have made a promise, ask your Filipina what her understanding of a promise is vs yours.
Got all that TC1?[/QUOTE]Yeah I noticed the SAME thing; thanks for reminding me of it again. No matter how clear I try to make what IS a committment and what is NOT, they will IMAGINE that I have made one. When your desperate in a desperate Country, your mind plays tricks on you.
Sorry, not my problem; I will take steps to make sure they do not MAKE IT my problem.
Funny how several of the guys here seem to know the substance of my chatting. Wonder how many are running chat scams with Filipina partners, or maybe posing as Filipinas themselves, or sniffing chat connections? Hmmmm, food for thought. Got all that FF?
Violating my own standards and feeding the troll.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1230800]Funny how several of the guys here seem to know the substance of my chatting. Wonder how many are running chat scams with Filipina partners, or maybe posing as Filipinas themselves, or sniffing chat connections? Hmmmm, food for thought. Got all that FF?[/QUOTE]More likely those of us with relevant "field experience" recognize very familiar patterns of Pinay behavior.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone;1230529]In the R. P. Are apparent. I am not coming there with the intention of returning, IF I come at all. Actually, I have started to look at other countries. The women are not as friendly, but I find that friendliness of FIlipinas is mostly an illusion anyways, part of the cultural / female schtick of luring foeigners who are frequently milked dry by the inhospitable, government sanctioned climate for foreigners there.[/QUOTE]You obviously have absolutely no experience with Pinays other than your one-handed chat room escapades. Yes, there are scamming Internet cafe girls. There are also very lovely and loving women of all educational and economic levels both in and out of the PI. If you want to be truly spoiled emotionally and sexually, take a Pinay DH or office worker as a GF in a place like Singapore. For the price of merely paying attention to her - A nice lunch, a movie, being nice to her friends - She will screw you six ways from Sunday and take care of any sexual AND non-sexual need you might have. Just don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off.
Additionally, even though you cling to that which you've "read" believing it makes you an expert on all things Pinay, you ignore serious writings and advice on retirement written extensively. Number one recommendation. NEVER commit to a retirement locale without vacationing there a number of times to "test drive." you should no more blindly move to Makati than you would Miami, Phuket than you would Phoenix.
However, I encourage you to go ahead and shift focus. Just stay the hell away from Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. You'd be miserable there too.
Hot photo, but the text gets a little confusing. 5-4 128lbs
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/balli.html[/url]
Looking for someone to meet and hope to find true love.
Hi there. Pretty and stunning lady here looking for someone to meet and see what happens. I'm fashionable, I'm sexy and sweet, well educated and I got class. But am very down to earth person so, you can bring me where ever you want. I do modeeling and I joind beauty pageants. If you like me, don't hesitate to contact me.
I want to meet a Male.
With age from 18 to 80.
And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.
I want to meet someone who can accept me as who I am and most specially my gender. Am looking for someone sweet, romantice and very passionate. Someone who can treat me like her very own princess. I want to meet someone serious but very naughty and hot in bed. Someone who can truly love me. If that's you. Please contact me. No bullshits please
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse; 1230867]Hot photo, but the text gets a little confusing. 5-4 128lbs.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/balli.html[/url]
Hi there. Pretty and stunning lady here looking for someone to meet and see what happens. I'm fashionable, I'm sexy and sweet, well educated and I got class.[/QUOTE]Come on man. No woman is going to toot her own horn and say how good she looks being a woman.
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1230867]I want to meet someone who can accept me as who I am and most specially my gender.[/QUOTE]And after reading this sentence I am surprised you even wasted band width posting this.
Charlie Horse,
I think Mr. E is onto something there referring to the "gender" comment in the profile.
[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1230854]Violating my own standards and feeding the troll.
More likely those of us with relevant "field experience" recognize very familiar patterns of Pinay behavior.[/QUOTE]Ok you must the expert because you think you are. How long have you lived in the R. P?
Sounds like you're not even there, but in Singapore.
[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1230854]You obviously have absolutely no experience with Pinays other than your one-handed chat room escapades. Yes, there are scamming Internet cafe girls. There are also very lovely and loving women of all educational and economic levels both in and out of the PI. If you want to be truly spoiled emotionally and sexually, take a Pinay DH or office worker as a GF in a place like Singapore. For the price of merely paying attention to her. A nice lunch, a movie, being nice to her friends. She will screw you six ways from Sunday and take care of any sexual AND non-sexual need you might have. Just don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off.[/QUOTE]And you obviously have a much higher opinion of yourself than I do. Go ahead and continue to pay for her meals while her relatives tag along, ok by me. Actually, most Pinays are not so free with their ssnnaattcchh as you like to portray here. In fact most won't even give you a flash show on cam unless they consider you marriage potential and think you will spend the 60, 000 and more to travel 8, 000 miles to meet them. It's a very Catholic Country; when you get laid it's because you are laying $$$ on them or they think they might land a rich foreigner for the long con. They DO like to ssccrreeww though, but like most women they must judge you to have some potential for a good return.
[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1230854]That's pretty apparent.Additionally, even though you cling to that which you've "read" believing it makes you an expert on all things Pinay, you ignore serious writings and advice on retirement written extensively. Number one recommendation. NEVER commit to a retirement locale without vacationing there a number of times to "test drive." you should no more blindly move to Makati than you would Miami, Phuket than you would Phoenix.[/QUOTE]I can only guess you consider me as stupid as the ladies you try to sleep with for the price of a dinner for them and their relatives / friends. Despite you many delusions, I am not.
Worry about yourself stuck in a Country that is bound to disappoint after the inital glow wears off from all the ladies who think all Westerners are their answer to financial security for them and theirs. I know what I'm doing.
[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1230854]However, I encourage you to go ahead and shift focus. Just stay the hell away from Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia. You'd be miserable there too.[/QUOTE]Singapore is facist-don't get caught chewing gum or criticizing their facist leaders or you will get a taste of what they REALLY think about you.
Malaysia is too expensive for tiny ladies with no breasts.
Indonesia, now that might be a good option to the R. P. Cheaper, better morals / values, except for the Muslim extremists, but the R. P. Has their fare share of those as witnessed by the several Westerners shot dead and bombs over the last couple years.
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1230928]And you obviously have a much higher opinion of yourself than I do. Go ahead and continue to pay for her meals while her relatives tag along, ok by me. Actually, most Pinays are not so free with their ssnnaattcchh as you like to portray here. In fact most won't even give you a flash show on cam unless they consider you marriage potentialI can only guess you consider me as stupid Worry about yourself stuck in a Country that is bound to disappoint after the inital glow wears off from all the ladies who think all Westerners are their answer to financial security for them and theirs. I know what I'm doing.[/QUOTE]I guess the Philippines that I KNOW, have VISITED in 143 times in past 30 years and the same place that I've LIVED in for 5 years must be different to the one that you know.
For entertainment, read my Philippines trip reports (you can read the SHanghai / HK / Singapore / Malaysia / Indonesia / also as they are similar) , where I've met many many many Filipinas and were heading to a motel within 30 minutes of meeting.
Not a mention of marriage, not a mention of money, just a good honest lay.
I truly enjoy my world and my life and I'm certainly not afraid to take risks, hence the fact I have a thriving business in Manila along with some high end property, and at least 6 chicas that will happily go with me whenever I appear in Manila.
The biggest risk you seem to take though is attempting to justify why you lack the "cojones" to actually get on a plane and go and experience life. Your endless rants as to why you can't do that, appear to be like the sad shy lonely guy sitting in the edge of the party watching everyone else enjoy but lacks the courage to actually say Hi to anyone.
PS Malaysian don't have small breasts, at least not the Malays and not the Indians. How do I know. Oh yes because I lived there for over 5 years. Ever been?
How do you add someone to the ignore list?
[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1230942]How do you add someone to the ignore list?[/QUOTE]"View Profile"
"Add to Ignore List"
[quote=turdycurdyone;1230928]ok you must the expert because you think you are.[/quote]do you even see the irony in your statement?
[quote=turdycurdyone;1230928]actually, most pinays are not so free with their ssnnaattcchh as you like to portray here. in fact most won't even give you a flash show on cam unless they consider you marriage potential and think you will spend the 60, 000 and more to travel 8, 000 miles to meet them.[/quote]ahhhh. i see. i must be doing it wrong by meeting them face-to-face. i'd estimate my "hit rate" in bedding an overseas pinay on the first date at probably 75. the misses are about 50/50 my choice. didn't click, too clingy, just not my type, etc.
never given family money, ever. i know that would/will change once i'm in a ltr actually in the pi. from elsewhere, if she want to send her money, i don't care. she's not sending mine. my exposure is limited to treating a pinay nicely, just like i would any date. and if it means buying a round or too for her mates, no problem. being seen by her peers as nice and respectful pays massive kinky dividends. something you wouldn't understand unless you've experienced it.
[quote=turdycurdyone;1230928]it's a very catholic country; when you get laid it's because you are laying $$$ on them or they think they might land a rich foreigner for the long con. they do like to ssccrreeww though, but like most women they must judge you to have some potential for a good return.[/quote]actually, for most overseas pinays, the big attraction is just to be with a man who treats them with respect and dignity. they tend to be treated like chattel by their employers. and tend to not be treated with respect and dignity by pinoys. and the catholic thing tends to work to our advantage. they actually truly believe confessional absolution allows them to sin to their hearts content. completely different perspective on guilt than their western counterparts.
[quote=turdycurdyone;1230928]i can only guess you consider me as stupid as the ladies you try to sleep with for the price of a dinner for them and their relatives / friends. despite you many delusions, i am not.[/quote]actually, i consider you stupider.
[quote=turdycurdyone;1230928]singapore is facist-don't get caught chewing gum or criticizing their facist leaders or you will get a taste of what they really think about you.[/quote]and this is why i consider you more stupid. in many ways sg is societally and economically superior to the good old usa. vibrant economy, incredibly diverse and tolerant, economic support for lower socio-economic strata based on inclusion and individual ownership rather than socialist handouts and income redistribution.
and best to upgrade your subscription to your "just add water" instant opinion reading material. chewing, or even possessing chewing gum is not at all illegal in sg.
[quote=turdycurdyone;1230928]malaysia is too expensive for tiny ladies with no breasts.[/quote]sigh. plenty of mammarial variety in malaysia just like anywhere. did you know asians of any ethnic subgroup can and do have big tits? japanese with full pendulous b / c/d-cups? chinese with full perky tits on tight tiny frames? voluptuous vietnamese? i know a danang milf. best cocksucker i've ever experienced- who opted for breast reduction! indonesians whose curves above and below make overfed americans look grotesque? ahhh, but you have to see that with your own eyes wouldn't you.
[quote=turdycurdyone;1230928]indonesia, now that might be a good option to the r. p. cheaper, better morals / values, except for the muslim extremists, but the r. p. has their fare share of those as witnessed by the several westerners shot dead and bombs over the last couple years.[/quote]wow. just wow. can't wait to see what armchair opinions you develop once you read up on the big durian.
you've been beating this same horse going on 3 years now, right?
[QUOTE=Ebauche;1230990]And this is why I consider you more stupid. In many ways SG is societally and economically superior to the good old USA. Vibrant economy, incredibly diverse and tolerant, economic support for lower socio-economic strata based on inclusion and individual ownership rather than socialist handouts and income redistribution.[/QUOTE]Wow. I thought this guy might do better in this forum because he's obviously the master of the one-handed chat experience. But he's just as opinionated about things he knows nothing about here as he was in the other Philippine forum.
I guess he should come over to the Singapore forums and school us rubes on how things really work in The Little Red Dot.
The Philippines will not be for everyone. Culture although is heavyly influenced by the west their are interesting cultural norms. Example saving face the average Pinay doesn't consider herself to be selling sex no matter how obvious it is to us gents so to out a Pinay on this is just asking to ruin a potential good time, also dating sites like DIA or FC or just tit bits of what you can enjoy with a Pinay to really appreciate them you have to go to the Philippines and stay there an extensive amount of time because you get the gambit of weirdos on any dating site and you get the worst of the worst sometimes Ladyboys, Scammers and out right Liars. Like any country the Gems are few and you may not find the gems on a dating site, you might find her walking in a mall, working at an hospital a secretary at a Makati firm etc. So I understand when a gent has a negative view of Pinays when their Only experience is through a chat site where they are dealing with extreme impoverished women who have no other choice than to ask or beg you for money, it is a turn off but thats a few women in a country of 93 million people. You certainly can get free sex if your reasonably attractive and have a descent personality but lets be realistic women basicly or the same no matter their culture or racial make up certain things are expected from the men they date, I live in the US I'm 29 years old I still date and cash out a minimum of 65 bucks on a date and that does not include guarenteed sex or even a good time for that matter but its the way of the world. In the Philippines the likely hood of you getting laid after shelling out half of that is in the upper 90 percentage rate and almost guarenteed if you shell out the whole 65 unless your dating an upper class well off Pinay. The point is that no matter the women or what part of the world she is from your paying something even if its just the flight and hotel stay, dinner, movies, drinks etc. It comes down ultimately to getting the biggest Bang for your Buck.
Nicely done Ebauche. The more I read of this guy's rants, the more I suspect he's an American redneck, as he expresses somewhat the same sorts of mindless bigotry and ill-informed opinions that I associate with them. His statements about Singapore are hilarious. I guess he's not read much on Cambodia or we'd be hearing his useless judgments about that country as well.
GE
I think that Ebauche is correct in his asessment of Singapore.
I first passed through there in 1973. The Singapore of old. Wild, lawless, poveerty, a mess. If you had your pocket picked, and your wallet stolen, you would buy it back at the thieves market next day. Everything in it except the money.
Then Lee Kwan Yew came to power in 1974 (while I was at Ohio State) , and when I went back through Singapore in 1975, it was so clean that you could eat your breakfast off the street.
He set long term development policies for the country. No natural resources. So he capitalised on what they had. People and strategic location.
And today it is a powerhouse. Just go there, look at the industry, shipping, air, logistics hub. People live well, everything is clean and works.
I have enormous admiration for Singapore, and also Malaysia. Both followed the same model.
Turn poverty into wealth.
My friend just came back to Australia from a visit to New York. He said that even in fromnt of the ritzy buuildings in 5th Ave, there are people living in the streets, newspapers stuffed into the arms of their coats to keep out the wind.
No comparison.
Hope versus fear.
G.
[QUOTE=Tanglin; 1231000]Wow. I thought this guy might do better in this forum because he's obviously the master of the one-handed chat experience. But he's just as opinionated about things he knows nothing about here as he was in the other Philippine forum.
I guess he should come over to the Singapore forums and school us rubes on how things really work in The Little Red Dot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone; 1230928]Malaysia is too expensive for tiny ladies with no breasts.
Indonesia, now that might be a good option to the R. P. Cheaper, better morals / values, except for the Muslim extremists, but the R. P. Has their fare share of those as witnessed by the several Westerners shot dead and bombs over the last couple years.[/QUOTE]Ya its easy to say SE asian ladies have smaller breasts. This must be one of TC1's small-breasted girls in Jakarta (hotel Atlet Century). Hahaha. No good morals on this gal (look who she's sleeping and posing with!). No muslim extremism here (she's catolic). TC1 was right about the bombs: she exploded, then I exploded.
Things are cheaper in Indonesia? That's news. Take a look at hotel, food, and apartment prices.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1231021]Nicely done Ebauche. The more I read of this guy's rants, the more I suspect he's an American redneck, as he expresses somewhat the same sorts of mindless bigotry and ill-informed opinions that I associate with them. His statements about Singapore are hilarious. I guess he's not read much on Cambodia or we'd be hearing his useless judgments about that country as well.
GE[/QUOTE]Here's my guess. And it is only a guess. Doubt the Troll will confirm or refute.
American. Guessing somewhere in the SW, reasonably convenient to the Mexican Frontera sinced he claims to have vast experience in border town action.
Older, but not that old. Retired early. Earlier than planned. Likely because he lost his job or was forced into retirement. Couldn't find a new position at comparable compensation so retired. Either in public service / education or in manufacturing.
Divorced. Given the curmudgeonly crank was suddenly no longer trudging to the job he disliked and was now constantly underfoot yet not bringing home the bacon anymore, the Better Half decided to get rid of his ass. As a result, her lawyer took him for far more than he thought possible, but frankly for less than she deserved for putting up with his ass for so many unpleasant years. She might have been laying ground work for the split for quite some time with him unaware.
Retired now in far less splendor than he'd dreamed. Pension, but diminished since early and he either shares it with the Ex or he had to buy her out. Other investments are in the tank like all of us given global economy.
Looking to find somewhere to stretch his retirement $. And looking for a partner who will be both subservient & docile as well as capable of earning a reasonable buck to contribute to his retirement and their household. Ironically he's much like a Pinoy in that regard, seeking to live off of his mate's earnings.
Does have experience outside the USA, but more limited in reality than it is in his mind (compared to many who have traveled numerous continents and countries). But, he does understand the world isn't just like home. But he want to find the cheapest place he can that is as much like the USA as possible, without the expense or demanding American women, wants to live abroad, but unwilling to assimilate or blend in. Must be on his terms.
Gives Pinay chat girls money because he thinks he is being nice. Thinks he is doing it on his terms and that it will pay off "when" he finally makes his move.
He will never even visit the PI, much less move there. But he'll keep a few cam girls in business sending them money on his terms.
Just my guess.
PS. Gangles - Tanglin & I are in agreement re SG & the Troll.
Can we agree that Turdycurdyone is a member whose contributions should be ignored?
I am an avid reader of the Philippines board, and I am saddened by the fact that so much time and effort is wasted addressing his grievances. HE SHOULD BE IGNORED.
I suggest that he start his own thread (which no one would ever read unless one were drunk and in a very foul mood). Whenever we needed to let loose a "fuck you asshole!" or "why don't you put a stick in your grandmother's ****?" we could go to that thread, write something terrible and decompress.
I have only been to Manila once. I believe the place is the best mongering spot on the planet. Non-pros and semi-pros (the ones I love) especially are easy there. The few pros I met were awesome.
PLEASE, IGNORE Turdycurdyone. Let's get back to the important business of exchanging information for men who are really interested in having sex with women.
[QUOTE=Forest;1231167]Can we agree that Turdycurdyone is a member whose contributions should be ignored?[/QUOTE]Yes.
[QUOTE=Forest;1231167]PLEASE, IGNORE Turdycurdyone.[/QUOTE]But, but, but I was just getting started with the sarcastic big-boobed asian chik pix. D-Cups is going to be disappointed.
I totally agree with makeupaname and Forest. While wasting time on debating with this idiot TC1, we are all missing out on what this forum is here for, discussing the great pussy available in the Philippines. Let's all just ignore him and enjoy the girls like we did before he appeared. If nobody responds to his rants, hopefully he will get bored of reading his own posts and go away.
HW
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[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1231199]Yes.
But, but, but I was just getting started with the sarcastic big-boobed asian chik pix. D-Cups is going to be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Heyheyhey now, what about disappointing ME?
I'm done feeding the Troll.
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[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1231217]Heyheyhey now, what about disappointing ME?
I'm done feeding the Troll.[/QUOTE]Hes on my ignore list. Been on this board for past 15 years plus under a few names and hes the first one I ever put on Ignore.
[QUOTE=Ebauche; 1231217]Heyheyhey now, what about disappointing ME?
I'm done feeding the Troll.[/QUOTE]You guys know how I hate to disappoint.
Got some PM's about the pictured busty lady whose soul is smitten with Turdy, asking if she's available in AC. She lives in Jakarta. I posted her to show TC1 that you will find busty ladies anywhere (assuming you are there to look them in the eye and ask them on a date).
#5015.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=1231134&viewfull=1#post1231134[/url]
DIA gal who is "serious"about love or something. Only 18 and I missed the age cutoff. I sent her a msg and asked if she had a friend. She asked me what my purpose was. I replied,"a date in asia". Two texts later she suggests we meet at "the hotel". I like her flexibility.
X
Without s / he actually saying "I am a ladyboy" here is a DateInAsia profile with all the give away signs:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/itsmenic.html[/url]
Profile:
Height 162cm (5'4") [usually 5'4"and above]
Weight 60kg (32lbs) [usually above 50kg]
Description: "I'm a social person". Using "person" and not girl or woman or female.
"a person who will accept me for what and who I am".
Photo:
Often a dress covering a lack of cleavage. Sometimes an Adam's apple is visible; and sometimes hidden by a dog collar. Hair style is usually shorter. Eyebrows usually heavier.
KongKing
Great pics and tits from a nice Titie, West Coast.
Is she Indo?
Cheers and have a great 2012.
Barek
The problem with your description KK is that a large percentage of ladyboys get boob jobs and many have operations to remove the Adams apple (especially in Thailand) although more and more LBs are getting this done in the Philippines as well.
Not trying to criticize you but thats my experience.
[QUOTE=KongKing; 1231590]Without s / he actually saying "I am a ladyboy" here is a DateInAsia profile with all the give away signs:
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/itsmenic.html[/url]
Profile:
Height 162cm (5'4") [usually 5'4"and above]
Weight 60kg (32lbs) [usually above 50kg]
Description: "I'm a social person". Using "person" and not girl or woman or female.
"a person who will accept me for what and who I am".
Photo:
Often a dress covering a lack of cleavage. Sometimes an Adam's apple is visible; and sometimes hidden by a dog collar. Hair style is usually shorter. Eyebrows usually heavier.
KongKing[/QUOTE]
I can't understand this obsession with figuring out who is a LB and who isn't. Who cares? I can't remember anyone posting that they were fooled and ended up in their room with a LB. So what's the big deal? I can only postulate that some members are so bored that they have nothing better to do with their time than dissect DIA profiles.
Hello, folks. I hope I do not crush any toes here, but I always get annoyed by all the religious fanatics that try to impose their lifestyle and fantasy world on me. It happens frequently to me in the Philippines. One can however always use the religious fanatics illogical reasoning for a little humoristic twist. As a true Christian and good pinay you have to "accept people for who they are", no matter what, and "respect other peoples religions", right?
BARBA.
Hello, there pretty girl! (followed by the usual BS required to get a P4P date with a girl on Tagged)
JEMAY K.
FEAR GOD FIRST. I pray that one day you'll realize that you're doing a great sin, God loves you.
BARBA.
Guess that is a no. Smiley.
According to my religion, the Pastafarians, it is not a sin. You should respect other peoples religions!
If you wish to read more about my religion you can find information here:
[url]http://www.venganza.org/about/[/url]
It is never wrong to try to understand other peoples beliefs, rather than to condemn them like you do. Try to have an open mind and accept people for what they are, also if they do not share your beliefs and religion!
As you can see we Pastafarians are getting more and more exposure every year, and people are beginningg to realize that the size of the meatballs actually do matters in some situations.
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8635624/Pastafarian-wins-religious-freedom-right-to-wear-pasta-strainer-for-driving-licence.html[/url]
Happy new year!
/Barba
Disregarding the general homophobic tendencies for a minute, I have a honest question that I want to toss up for anyone to comment on (including the admin).
What are the rules here on ISG regarding Ladyboys?
This board clearly states that it is her for the exchange of information about men meeting women. So promoting ladyboys is not allowed, even if they consider themselves female? What if they operated the dick away and now have a little fake love hole? Are they Ok to discuss then?
Barba
[blue]Barba,
This is the expanded version of the Forum's Mission Statement:
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men [u]who were always men[/u] on the subject of finding Women [u]who were always women[/u] for Sex.
Please do not discuss Ladyboys, TV, TS, or any other related deviancy on my forum.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue]
I am with David_33 on this one, lets not get obsessive about them. I have had numerous messages from LBs on DIA I don't even bother to reply, I just block them.
[QUOTE=Barek; 1231666]Great pics and tits from a nice Titie, West Coast.
Is she Indo?
Cheers and have a great 2012.
Barek[/QUOTE]She's Indo. Her face is a bit latina. Hips are pina. Boobs are all girlie.
[QUOTE=Barba; 1231706][blue]The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men [u]who were always men[/u] on the subject of finding Women [u]who were always women[/u] for Sex.[/blue][/QUOTE]Got it Jackson. Thank you and happy new year!
Barba
I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.
Most of the girls say in their profiles that they are 'simple' and that's an understatement to say the least. Seems that there are lots of bored little girls that just want to chat and I try to redirect them to an email conversation in the hopes that if they can complete a sentence, they may have half a brain.
Another question is are there any teltale signs that they are pros? Not that I mind that kind of arrangement, but nice to know in advance if I can afford them.
Also it seems that most of the beauties are from Cebu. Or is it just my taste for visayan beauty? But most or a lot of them ar single mothers looking for a sugardaddy and generally it seems that they are the most hungry [scammers]. Is that true?
So, any advise to connect with an under 25 yr old that is game to try a guy before comitting?
And what areas would be best. MNL / Cebu / or others that are easy access for both of us?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Barba; 1231703]Hello, folks. I hope I do not crush any toes here, but I always get annoyed by all the religious fanatics that try to impose their lifestyle and fantasy world on me. It happens frequently to me in the Philippines. One can however always use the religious fanatics illogical reasoning for a little humoristic twist. As a true Christian and good pinay you have to "accept people for who they are", no matter what, and "respect other peoples religions", right?
/Barba[/QUOTE]
I have the same problem here in the USA. I wish people Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. This snotty rather large red-neck woman at Walmart (yes, Walmart, I like to buy my fresh fruit and underwear in one stop) said I should say Merry Christmas, and I said why, I am not Christian. She said what are you a Jew? This pissed me off not because I am NOT Jews, but her red-neck attitude. :mad: I decided to fuck with her. I told her I was Reformed Druid and our holiday was the Winter Solstice. This confused the hell out of her. Reformed Druid what is that she asked? I told her we prayed to nature, the forces of the universe, and we did not have just one God. I explained we had to give up human sacrifice so are now Reformed Druids. Once again, I wished her Happy Holidays and entered to finish my holiday shopping. She just stood there with a goofy look on her fat red face.
By the way, I am not a Reformed Druid, just Agnostic. :D
Slim
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[quote=Jackson]This is the expanded version of the Forum's Mission Statement:
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men [u]who were always men[/u] On the subject of finding Women [u]who were always women[/u] For Sex.
Please do not discuss Ladyboys, TV, TS, or any other related deviancy on my forum.
Thank You,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Thanks Jackson, I wish you would post this on every thread.
[QUOTE=Lamok; 1231982]I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.
Most of the girls say in their profiles that they are 'simple' and that's an understatement to say the least. Seems that there are lots of bored little girls that just want to chat and I try to redirect them to an email conversation in the hopes that if they can complete a sentence, they may have half a brain.
Another question is are there any teltale signs that they are pros? Not that I mind that kind of arrangement, but nice to know in advance if I can afford them.
Also it seems that most of the beauties are from Cebu. Or is it just my taste for visayan beauty? But most or a lot of them ar single mothers looking for a sugardaddy and generally it seems that they are the most hungry [scammers]. Is that true?
So, any advise to connect with an under 25 yr old that is game to try a guy before comitting?
And what areas would be best. MNL / Cebu / or others that are easy access for both of us?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I have had very good success with DIA. So much so that on many trips I do not go to AC or bars to pick up girls. My time is spent with few young and willing beauties. I am sure many others here had had better experiences through DIA.
Most of us are looking for sex through dia girls. To answer to your questions,
1. Time wasters- Not really! This is a dating site, so they are not going to trust whatever you say. Some may not like the way you look. Some may not like the way you talk.
Mutual attraction is a must to continue chatting to see where it leads you.
2. Not sure if you are looking for life companion or short time deal. If you are looking for serious relation need to weed out many. Just concentrate on most promising ones.
For short time you need to start slowly to develop a friendship first. Do not mention anything like sex initially. Most Phi women will have sex if they agree to meet you. Once again if they like you in person.
I have had good luck even with those who said they will not have sex with me.
3. If they promise to make happy and show themselves naked initially it means they are pros. No innocent girl will do that.
4. Beautifull girls are everywhere not necessarily Cebu. But around cebu you will find more province girls. You are going to find illierate girls who cannot put 2 and 2 together. What they show on profile pic maybe completely different than in real person.
5. Better meet in bigger cities because there are better restaurents, hotels etc. More things to do as well.
6. Keep trying to chat with many. Some will fall in.
[QUOTE=Lamok; 1231982]I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I do have some thoughts to share with you, but they need to be shared in PM. You have time / money to spend playing in phils, but don't have $20 to get a subscription here? You have two posts under your belt (no real Field Reports for us yet) , and are asking questions? Newb:
1. Get a subscription, then PM me, and I'll give you some thoughts about DIA help.
2. Go there, and post a detailed Field Report about your experiences before asking for help. See any of McDon's recent / excellent descriptive reports.
3. THEN ask for help.
[QUOTE=Lamok; 1231982]I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.
Most of the girls say in their profiles that they are 'simple' and that's an understatement to say the least. Seems that there are lots of bored little girls that just want to chat and I try to redirect them to an email conversation in the hopes that if they can complete a sentence, they may have half a brain.
Another question is are there any teltale signs that they are pros? Not that I mind that kind of arrangement, but nice to know in advance if I can afford them.
Also it seems that most of the beauties are from Cebu. Or is it just my taste for visayan beauty? But most or a lot of them ar single mothers looking for a sugardaddy and generally it seems that they are the most hungry [scammers]. Is that true?
So, any advise to connect with an under 25 yr old that is game to try a guy before comitting?
And what areas would be best. MNL / Cebu / or others that are easy access for both of us?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Do not accept what many here have to say about the R. P. They have vested profit and othe interests that motivate them to post exaggerated and false information about the P. I.
The head moderator of this board, I think his name is Jackson, practices censorship because members here cannot take what the dish out.
It was a much better board before he took it over when it was called wwoorrllddsseexxgguuiiddee owned by someone who was not profit motivated and did not censor posts.
To quote Jack Nicolson: You want the truth? YOu can't HANDLE the truth.
Message me privately and I will give the benefit of years experience on DIA.
This board will never get a dime of my money due to it's policy of discriminatory censorship against posts that burn their little hinnies to badly.
[QUOTE=Lamok;1231982]I've been wasting a lot of time on DIA before my next trip over, as I would like a change from the bar scene and was wondering if any of you more experienced guys out there would care to share a few tips about cruising DIA and making the most of your time, as I have discovered that there are a lot of time wasters out there.[/QUOTE]When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery. As the guys have always said, start fishing only a couple of weeks before your trip. This is an example with a girl I just met on DIA a few minutes ago. In 20 minutes it is a done deal:
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:28:07 PM) : ok.
May (12/31/2011 3:28:14 PM) : Hi.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:28:23 PM) : why you not sleep.
May (12/31/2011 3:28:35 PM) : just home from party.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:28:55 PM) : ok. Your bf did not go with you?
May (12/31/2011 3:29:02 PM) : I don't have.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:29:21 PM) : ok. You forget me. Or you busy with other man?
May (12/31/2011 3:37:52 PM) : sleepy.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:37:55 PM) : me too. You have cam?
May (12/31/2011 3:38:02 PM) : yyes.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:38:08 PM) : I want to see you.
May (12/31/2011 3:38:19 PM) : later.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:38:30 PM) : ok. We go to sleep now.
May (12/31/2011 3:38:31 PM) : you look good in the tub. I want to see inside.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:38:56 PM) : maybe you can see inside if I meet you in manila.
May (12/31/2011 3:39:08 PM) : yea. Are you coming here.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:39:29 PM) : yes. Next month. But maybe you too busy.
May (12/31/2011 3:39:52 PM) : you have your flight? When you will be here? Where you will staying.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:42:37 PM) : ermita. Or maybe I stay at your house.
May (12/31/2011 3:42:50 PM) : LOL\
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:44:01 PM) : you want?
May (12/31/2011 3:44:15 PM) : I don't have a home. I lived in a boarding house.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:44:40 PM) : no problem. I stay there with you.
May (12/31/2011 3:45:55 PM) : LOL.
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:46:22 PM) : so you come stay with me or I stay at your room with you?
May (12/31/2011 3:49:10 PM) : I WILL STAY WITH U
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1232126]When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery.[/QUOTE]Yeah, if only other things in life were as easy as making a DIA pickup.
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1231998.
By the way, I am not a Reformed Druid, just Agnostic. .
Slim[/QUOTE]I will wish really hard (almost like praying) for You to see the power of the meatballs of the Flying Spaghetti Monster so also You can become a whole human.
If you change the name of the alpha figure in the sky, this quote could be from a girl in Davao that both me and a friend here on ISG fucked at least twice each. She goes on with all her religious bullshit and even says she has never been with a man or that she has not been with a man since last time she was with me or my friend, depending on who is pumping her at the moment. Total hypocrite that is so crazy she even believes all this shit, even if she will suck down four SML and fuck your brains out later. She is not that pretty either, but has nice firm big tits. First time I did her she was very tight. Do not remember the second that good.
First time I fucked her was after she invited herself to "see my room". I fucked her for some minutes and then she thought it was time to go back to her friends on Torres and brag about her achievement. I did not care. Like the sweet unused smell of her pussy, but did not care for cumming all that much. For some reason I did her bareback and it was like sticking the cock in a jar of marmalade. Dripping down her legs. I tested myself and it was not clam or something that made her drip (that time). Before inviting herself to my room, she twisted both my arms hard to come and meet her friends and share a warm red horse on Torres on the Day of Davao. I was indifferent from many hard days of sex. She paraded me, the only phorigner, in the club like I was some sort of film star, and the cameras went off all the time. All friends where around 22-24 and all girls had a couple of kilos extra, so they where not used to the attention I guess. Maybe that was why she was so eager to walk me back as well."Can I hold your arm like you are my boyfriend?"."Fuck no, this is Torres and god knows who will see Barba here." She held it anyway.
Just a couple of days later she banged my friend and then me again, and actually told me that she only remember that they got drunk but not if they had sex. I met her on DIA and we still chat occasionally, but mostly because she has a teenage friend she considers "her sister", that I want to "get to know better". Let me know if you want to see this plump brainwashed bimbo and I will send you the details I have. Not P4P but rather the dating game. She has a decent job within some finance / admin and never asked for, or received, money from me as I recall. Meet her at your own risk of being fed religious "I am a good girl" crap, before you rip her panties off and fuck her dripping pussy hard. Can be a good spice if you are into these kind of paradoxes.
Happy New Year!
Barba.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1232126]When is your next trip? It is not brain surgery. As the guys have always said, start fishing only a couple of weeks before your trip. This is an example with a girl I just met on DIA a few minutes ago. In 20 minutes it is a done deal:
Mr E (12/31/2011 3:46:22 PM) : so you come stay with me or I stay at your room with you?
May (12/31/2011 3:49:10 PM) : I WILL STAY WITH U[/QUOTE]Filipinas are famous for agreeing to almost everything online. They have many chat conversations at the same time and many fishing lines in the water with guys hoping to land someone. Typically they will agree to things and seem very happy you will visit them. Most are unable or unwilling to upset a guy with the word 'no' since they can't tell at the begining who is serious. Since the vast waters of the asia online dating pool are somewhat murky, with at my best guesstimate around 15% of guys online who are serious and will actually visit the Philippines.
The girls learn quickly that alot of the guys are not serious. Most of the girls will only get excited when you send them a text from a Philippines based SIMcard. Even then most will have to ask again who you are and where you know her from. While some girls will be ready and willing to meet and come to your room at the drop of a hat, very often circumstances are not in your favor.
Expect alot of excuses, 'my mom is sick, I'm sick, I have school work now, we have family emergency, I have OJT work now, no money for jeep, I have period, ect, ect' And the very famous, 'I'm not in Manila. I'm back in the province come here k'. If you have a whole list of contacts that meet your requirements, double or triple it and that's for the big cities. If you travel to places in the province make sure those lists of contacts are big enough to withstand all the excuses, no-shows and girls who will meet you but refuse to go any further.
Some will be more than happy to meet, and it will depends on how good your game is and if you are gwapo or not to get them to your room and into your bed. Again YMMV and some guys will have no problem getting girls and others will struggle. Some girls will meet you and then deny they ever agreed staying with you in your room or anything naughty. Even if you pull out your laptop and show her your chat conversations where she gives you naughty details of the things that will happen, she could brush it off. Shit happens so be prepared.
[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1232168]Some girls will meet you and then deny they ever agreed staying with you in your room or anything naughty. Even if you pull out your laptop and show her your chat conversations where she gives you naughty details of the things that will happen, she could brush it off. Shit happens so be prepared.[/QUOTE]Had the best of luck with this very game for many years. For several years, I had exactly one girl agree to a meet / screw, then she backed out at a Starbucks. Two hours later, as I was deep into a different girl, the first girl starts txting the rest of the afternoon that she's changed her mind and wants to come to the room. Other guys would write in here and say they struck out with this and that girl, and I would think: whats wrong with that guy? I was starting to think I should call Brad Pitt and give him some pointers.
Then I hit CDO for the first time some months back. Talk about getting taken down a notch or two. Sitting at the Starbucks at Lemkatki Mall, my first date arrives at 11am. With the unannounced friend. As with every girl I meet, she has agreed in advance to the meet / screw. 20 minutes into a latte and chat, I realize its going nowhere. I mention I'm going back to the hotel, and does she want to come with me, or not? She politely declined."We not knowing each other. Need more dating first." I reminded her that we had agreed to quick hotel time."No. You misunderstand me." No need to argue, I thank them for their time. Its 11:30am. Text girl #2, who magically walks up at 11:50am. With her cousin. Couple more lattes, same routine from the girl: "Never did I say to your hotel." Thanks for your time ladies. Thank goodness it was over in 10 minutes. Girl #3 says she'll be there at 1pm, alone, so I walk the mall slowly, not a single look in my direction from anyone ('86' that call to Mr. Pitt). Back after lunch at 1pm, get the usual "Wait me" txts. She shows at 1:35, with another unannounced friend. Two more coffees, this time it took until just after 2pm to get: "No I not say I'm come on your hotel. You not understand when we chatting online." Thanks for your time, ladies. Back to the hotel for a shower, girl #4 says she'll be at starbucks at 4pm. Having a half hour to kill, I go online, look thru my chat transcripts, and email each girl the short section where she agreed to meet / bang. One of the girls even said she could bring her cousin for a threesome. Another gal mentioned wanting to try an adult toy. I'm about to go offline and head back to Starbucks when girl #2 comes online (the one who mentioned wanting a threesome in YM chat). We chat, I tell her to check her email. She does. Swear to god this is what she typed back after reading it: "Yes I said that. I agree then to your hotel. But I did not mean it at that time." Well, the little liar is suddenly very honest. I would get several similar responses in offline msgs over the next several days.
I think this is part of saving face. Difficulty saying "no" to someone while talking to them. I think this is the kind of thing Stroker is talking about. Many pinay are uncomfortable talking about sex ("do you like your pussy licked?") , and cringe inside. But instead of changing the subject or saying they are uncomfortable, they just say 'yes' to not upset the apple cart. BTW, I would strike out twice more at Starbucks that evening, and several times the next day. Never before had I wanted to chew Prozac pills like that.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1232183]Then I hit CDO for the first time some months back. Talk about getting taken down a notch or two. Sitting at the Starbucks at Lemkatki Mall,
I think this is part of saving face. Difficulty saying "no" to someone while talking to them. I think this is the kind of thing Stroker is talking about. Many pinay are uncomfortable talking about sex ("do you like your pussy licked?") , and cringe inside. But instead of changing the subject or saying they are uncomfortable, they just say 'yes' to not upset the apple cart. BTW, I would strike out twice more at Starbucks that evening, and several times the next day. Never before had I wanted to chew Prozac pills like that.[/QUOTE]WC,
I have not visited CDO, [i][b]yet[/b][/i]. I have visited Davao and had the same kind of experince there that you had in CDO. Girls backtracking with multiple strikeouts after meeting. These were girls who promised me action and we chatted for several weeks off and on before my arrival in Davao and made a connection. I thought my list of 10 contacts would be more than enough to get me through a week. Soooo wrong! I can honestly say I have never been so bombarded with requests for me to meet my chatmates in church the following Sunday. I declined the church meet & greets and got most to meet over a coffee. Suddenly all the sex kittens I chatted with had vanished.
I was left with one contact on my list who was running 26, already had a kid and was tall and thin. She seemed nice but no matter what I tried I couldn't close the deal. I took her to dinner and out to a few clubs two nights in a row but still she refused. At that point I just cut my losses and went back to more fertile ground with a bruise on my ego. I paid for my hotel with a reality cheque! The front desk girl at my hotel was surprised I was leaving early and informed me the extra day wouldn't be refunded and I couldn't care less.
I have come up with a new name for these kinds of girls, 'FLASH-BULB-FILIPINAS' or FBF for short. Seems alot of these girls will promise the moon, and have no plans to go through with it. All they desire is bragging rights to friends and family. When you meet, the girl will ask to take a few pics of you and her together. It's a pretty standard thing for filipinas to take a billion pics so it's no big deal but once the pics are taken as a trophy they have no desire to continue the date. They want to rush home and show everyone how cool they are because they met a foreign guy and broadcast the new trophy pics on facebook. I guess it's no different then some of us getting naughty pics from some of these girls as trophies.
Y'all watch for the FBF girls ya hear! ;)