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a smile is not a message but a mere mouseclick to express interest. 17Quid per month is a bit pricier than CB but next trip I might try FH to get a fresh start (girls will recognize you after a couple months on one site and the novelty factor is important IMHO).
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cb = cherry blossom
Hmmm, since we were talking about Cherry blossom, I thought cb would be obvious. Sorry
Thanks Finrod for the FilHeart review. Do they also have many ladies from the south? What I liked about CB is there were a lot of women from Mindanao and that's where I was headed. They seem to have fewer women from Luzon / Manila.
There is another site one of the ladies told me about. EuroAsia or asiaeuro...something like that.
Surfer, if I ever spend money again on my account at CB, I thought I would leave the old account there and create a new one with different pictures. Your stategy might not work as well as you think since I think a lot of these girls are registered at more than one site.
I wonder if it is worthwhile to reveiw certain ladies on this board. Hmm, it might be fun.
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filipinaheart.com
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks Finrod for the FilHeart review. Do they also have many ladies from the south? What I liked about CB is there were a lot of women from Mindanao and that's where I was headed. They seem to have fewer women from Luzon / Manila.[/QUOTE]
Yes, many of the girls who contacted me by chat or email were from Mindanao. Cagayan de Oro, Ozamis City, Davao, Cotabato, etc., were typical cities listed in their profiles. I didn't spend much time with them as I was not headed that way on this trip. But maybe next time? You will also find a lot of girls from Cebu as well. I did go there and meet some of them.
[QUOTE=X Man]Surfer, if I ever spend money again on my account at CB, I thought I would leave the old account there and create a new one with different pictures. Your stategy might not work as well as you think since I think a lot of these girls are registered at more than one site.
I wonder if it is worthwhile to reveiw certain ladies on this board. Hmm, it might be fun.
X[/QUOTE]
Since I am no longer paid at FH, I am hiding my profile there. Since I won't be back in the Phils for a long while, that might work as far as appearing fresh when I do reappear in preparation for my return. On the other hand, if someone here points me to a better site, I can go that way instead.
X makes a very good point here about the girls being registered in more than one place. It's practically all free to them so of course they will. We who have to spend money usually need to be choosier. So I'm glad this thread is available to discuss our results.
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Some overlap perhaps, but I think the majority are on only one site (plus new ones join all the time). Only issue with Xman's idea is that on CB it states the date you created your profile AND the last time you updated it. Agreed there are VERY few on CB from Luzon, somewhat surprising as there is so much more web access but not surprising in that they have other ways to meet foreigners that are lacking in the bundoks (a Tagalog word that made its way into English lexicon as opposed to the MUCH more common adoption of English words by Tagalog).
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[QUOTE=Surfer]a smile is not a message but a mere mouseclick to express interest. 17Quid per month is a bit pricier than CB but next trip I might try FH to get a fresh start (girls will recognize you after a couple months on one site and the novelty factor is important IMHO).[/QUOTE]Guess you're right. I don't know the site since I've never used it before.
20 e-mails so far, but I have to say I'm not impressed with the quality of talent.
I get much better just winging it over there.
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Chat Room Experiment
As an experiment, I used FHearts for a number of months before making my trip to the PI. Although I used my friends account, I still had the opportunity to send out plenty of e-mails with my picture attached and, as a result, got plenty of responses.
Out of perhaps a hundred different girls who responded, I broke it down to one girl in Manila, Cebu, and Davao. The basis for the narrow selection was time management concerns. If I did not hit the target, I wanted time to monger. I received a clear commitment from each they would “stay overnight” with me. I had been corresponding heavily with each of these gals for approximately 6 months.
The results were as follows:
Manila: The girl came to my hotel and we went Jumbo’s (the floating restaurant) for dinner. It was a Friday night so the traffic was horrendous, it took us a good 50 minutes to reach the restaurant. The food was fair to poor.
It took an equal amount of time to get back to my hotel so we agreed to dispense with the “drinks” we planned. In the room it was crystal clear the girl, because it was our first time together, would indeed “sleep” with me - but that’s all. Naturally, I declined and sent her on her way. Made a quick trip to LA Café (now closed) and got the best action of my trip. Got repeated calls from her during my trip stating she wanted another chance and would “show” me how she felt about me.
Cebu: After months of telling me sleeping together was “no problem,” this gall wanted to bring a chaperone to dinner, she was just “too shy” to meet me by herself. Having my patience tested in Manila, and despite her persistent calling, I dumped her. Again, got repeated calls but the damage was done.
Davao: Initially, this situation was an enigma to me. The gal, a sexy thing in her pictures, was constantly asking when I would get there, and telling me how excited she was to see me. When I got to Manila I called her but no answer. Tried repeatedly to e-mail her but no answer. We never met. Back home I received e-mails from her claiming she had changed cell phone number, and she was “too sick” to check her e mail. Upon reflection no enigma here, I believe she had boyfriend troubles, or another mark was in town.
It appears to me if you have enough time to invest these web sites might be of some assistance. However, for hard core mongering, they are somewhat unreliable.
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FH experience
Bill, I would not have picked just one, but then again, you cite time management. Have to remember many girls will say anything to get you to pick them. I also would not have made the first date a big-deal dinner date.
My first dates were almost always for coffee or drinks in a local mall with dinner (or lunch) to follow if I felt good about her. Sometimes I did 2 or even 3 dates in a day like that. Sometimes I bailed early if she turned out to be ugly or there was no chemistry (or in one case, 'she' was really a ladyboy).
I stayed in Makati for several weeks so I had the luxury of the time to wade through the frogettes. A few of the girls I met did sleep with me on the first date. With two exceptions, these were pros or semi-pros pretending to be girls looking for boyfriends. They were the ones who were always asking me for "a little help for their family" in the morning. Most girls who slept with me did so on the second date. These were better GFE in general, but again, a couple of these turned out to be semi-pros as well. A couple more girls texted me near the end of my stay to say they would sleep with me if they could see me again. But I didn't take them up on that.
So that leads me to believe that if these girls are not pros or semi-pros, then they may need some warming up before they will hop in the sack with you. And of course, there's no guarantee they will do that. Among all the ones I met, I found one or two that I might see again when I make it back. But that won't be for awhile so we'll see how patient they are.
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Billpsu exp
Billpsu broke it down to one lady per city, but I would suggest one lady per day...and keep those other email addresses and phone numbers. Some of the luckiest encounters I had were with ones rather low on the list...but were willing to meet within hours of my message...and spread their legs a few hours after that!
I would suggest it's a mistake to tell a woman you'll be meeting other women, and I also suggest it's a mistake to tell a woman she's the only one. Keep your cards close to your chest, know when to fold and when to hold....
As for the lady who just wanted to "sleep". Hmmm, risky, but go for it. You'll be in the same bed and light touching / kissing would be expected. But respect her wishes and cut things off FIRST...before she does. Very important...stop the action before she stops the action. In the morning (if she holds out that long), she may have new respect for you....not to mention a whole night of foreplay.
I did this one night. I quickly agreed to her concerns about sex (not having it). I presented the attitude that I could care less if I had sex with her (this attidue is easy to present when in SEA). I used the process in the above paragraph. By turning off the pressure before she did, I was always able to notch it up a bit each time for the next "round" of intimacy. Before the night was over I had my tongue halfway up her honey hatch and got her to "lick" some lollipop. I earned her trust by keeping my promise. Intercourse didn't occur.
The next day I took another risk. I agreed to go two hours out of town to her family reunion (holiday season)...at which time she unexpectedly asked her father if she could "accompany" me.
We had a fun two days on Bohol, with her father's permission. Intercourse occurred whenever I had the slightest urge! What a good girl! She has a regular job...not a pro by any means.
***If you have limited time, as Bilpsu had, these strategies are probably not for you. I also had limited time, but have been to the Philippines enough times that I wanted some different expericences.
As for Billpsu's Davao girl, I had something similar happen in Cebu. She was stunning, but actually cancelled the date after I was already at the meeting place. Heart breaking!
X
[QUOTE=Billpsu]As an experiment, I used FHearts for a number of months before making my trip to the PI. Although I used my friends account, I still had the opportunity to send out plenty of e-mails with my picture attached and, as a result, got plenty of responses.
Out of perhaps a hundred different girls who responded, I broke it down to one girl in Manila, Cebu, and Davao. The basis for the narrow selection was time management concerns. If I did not hit the target, I wanted time to monger. I received a clear commitment from each they would “stay overnight” with me. I had been corresponding heavily with each of these gals for approximately 6 months.
The results were as follows:
Manila: The girl came to my hotel and we went Jumbo’s (the floating restaurant) for dinner. It was a Friday night so the traffic was horrendous, it took us a good 50 minutes to reach the restaurant. The food was fair to poor.
It took an equal amount of time to get back to my hotel so we agreed to dispense with the “drinks” we planned. In the room it was crystal clear the girl, because it was our first time together, would indeed “sleep” with me - but that’s all. Naturally, I declined and sent her on her way. Made a quick trip to LA Café (now closed) and got the best action of my trip. Got repeated calls from her during my trip stating she wanted another chance and would “show” me how she felt about me.
Cebu: After months of telling me sleeping together was “no problem,” this gall wanted to bring a chaperone to dinner, she was just “too shy” to meet me by herself. Having my patience tested in Manila, and despite her persistent calling, I dumped her. Again, got repeated calls but the damage was done.
Davao: Initially, this situation was an enigma to me. The gal, a sexy thing in her pictures, was constantly asking when I would get there, and telling me how excited she was to see me. When I got to Manila I called her but no answer. Tried repeatedly to e-mail her but no answer. We never met. Back home I received e-mails from her claiming she had changed cell phone number, and she was “too sick” to check her e mail. Upon reflection no enigma here, I believe she had boyfriend troubles, or another mark was in town.
It appears to me if you have enough time to invest these web sites might be of some assistance. However, for hard core mongering, they are somewhat unreliable.[/QUOTE]
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Great post Finrod
Good stuff from Finrod.
My policy is that the first meeting should be in a coffee shop or food court at the mall. It's cheap, and non threatening for everyon. DO NOT let her think for a minute that she owns you or can control you. If she suggests some expensive seafood restaurant, refuse. Duh, that's common sense for Western women as well. Do not be a desperate wussy! (no offense to anyone intended....)
Good for Finrod, but I did NOT have good luck scheduling more than one a day. This may be simply because I'm too good hearted. On two occasions, I met a really hot girl in the afternoon, but then excused myself to meet the evening girl. It didn't seem right to me to cancel the evening date, although hindsight tells me I should have. If I do this again, I will try to have a good excuse set up beforehand so as not to give intended target a perceived rejection. Or maybe I should just be cold blooded and cancel the evening date.
And if you are so lucky as to be able to schedule repeat visits to PI, by all means keep the phone numbers, keep in touch.
Patience is sometimes very rewarding.
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[QUOTE=Finrod]Bill, I would not have picked just one, but then again, you cite time management. Have to remember many girls will say anything to get you to pick them. I also would not have made the first date a big-deal dinner date.
My first dates were almost always for coffee or drinks in a local mall with dinner (or lunch) to follow if I felt good about her. Sometimes I did 2 or even 3 dates in a day like that. Sometimes I bailed early if she turned out to be ugly or there was no chemistry (or in one case, 'she' was really a ladyboy).
I stayed in Makati for several weeks so I had the luxury of the time to wade through the frogettes. A few of the girls I met did sleep with me on the first date. With two exceptions, these were pros or semi-pros pretending to be girls looking for boyfriends. They were the ones who were always asking me for "a little help for their family" in the morning. Most girls who slept with me did so on the second date. These were better GFE in general, but again, a couple of these turned out to be semi-pros as well. A couple more girls texted me near the end of my stay to say they would sleep with me if they could see me again. But I didn't take them up on that.
So that leads me to believe that if these girls are not pros or semi-pros, then they may need some warming up before they will hop in the sack with you. And of course, there's no guarantee they will do that. Among all the ones I met, I found one or two that I might see again when I make it back. But that won't be for awhile so we'll see how patient they are.[/QUOTE]
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sample
This one strikes me as odd. First, she is 5'5 and only 100 lb. I know that sounds anorexic to some of you, but it's what I like. But look at the pictrue!
The only way this lady is 100lb is if she's 4'11.
She also writes TWICE that "love is blind". Well, us happily divorced guys know what this means, but I think she's trying to say "any old ugly git will do".
Or maybe the person writing the profile isn't the person in the picture. Who knows.
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Too hot
All indications are that this one is for real. She no longer posts this picture...has toned things down a bit for obvious reasons.
Now rolls with the Makati movers and shakers..... Chatted a bit with her and she's obviously intelligent. Never met her though, so this post may be worth the paper it's printed on.
NOTE* I'm really sorry to insult 95% of you with this most OBVIOUS warning, but please, PLEASE, if you know this woman, there is no need to post her name here.
NO names please! If you want to gossip, send me pm.
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for X
When I had a girl meet me for coffee or drinks, I would say something like "we'll have something to drink and see how it goes", implying that the date was a short one.
Whether or not I was doing two dates in a day, I always implied to the girl that I had a time limit because I had other plans later. You're under no obligation to say what they are if she asks. Answer the question with a joke or bust on her for asking. She doesn't own you or control you. And remember if you didn't have any plans later, you can always "ditch" them if things look good with her. If you had chemistry with the girl on the afternoon date, best thing to do is give her the gift of missing you.
Most of my dates knew I was meeting other girls, I made no effort to hide that. Most of the time, they understood even if they didn't like it, but some did show a jealous streak. If some girl does try to control you, no need to put up with that no matter how hot she is, there are more where she's from.
Of course all this requires time and patience. If that is in short supply with you, then you may be better off doing p4p. Plenty of places reported in the other threads.
X-man, good luck with that girl in your last post.
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Mining the Online Boards
Doh! I just opened this folder for the first time. I've posted three pre-reports under General Info on my preparation and plans for the trip to the Philippines that begins tonight!
I've been using Cherry Blossoms with great success -- at least online. We shall see. There are always fall backs. Anyway, if you're interested, check out my preliminary reports on General Info under Titmouse.
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Titmouse...
TM, I'm looking forward to hearing how things turn out. Someday lets share notes on our CB girls.
I'm no longer a paying memeber at CB, but I still have many contacts, phone numbers and pictures .... it's overwhelming.
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Bust?
I had an old friend of mine tell me that her studio was busted today and it was on the news. I wont say what part of manila it was in for their protection.
Anybody see this? I'll watch the abs-cbn news in the morning.