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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Agree with X on this one, its a evil word, and although I use it, I much prefer the gentler British words 'to punt', 'Punter', 'Punting' in reference to p4p activities. One brings up images of gently drifting down the Thames, whereas the other is just plain nasty with its negative connotations (*****-m, war-m, fish-m!).[/QUOTE]

"Sticks and stones . . . will break my bones . . . but names will never hurt me." Still a lot of truth in that school-yard couplet, gentlemen. Monger is only a word, guys . . . and although it usually means "to sell" . . . "fish-monger" is someone who sells fish. "Wh*re-monger" is a pimp and so on . . . there are two other common meanings for monger:

First alternate definition is "to be involved in something often or frequently" - usually something disreputable or questionable, for example to be a gossip-monger, scandal-monger or war-monger. So while some of you may not like to call a spade a spade, get real guys: most polite society treats paying for pussy as disreputable (grin).

Two is to be a frequent user of something - sound familiar, gentlemen ? so another meaning for a "Wh*re-monger" is a frequent customer of working-girls, or in old-fashioned slang a "john".

Now THERE's an interesting word. One meaning of "john" is a common or average guy, sort of an everyman (as in "john doe"). Maybe they call pussy-mongers "johns" because the average guy likes to frequently use pussy (grin again).

But another meaning of "john" is latrine, or toilet . . . which is sorta offensive to fellows whose parents named them "john". One friend by that name used to retaliate . . . for many months . . . against people who he heard asking where the "john" was when they wanted to take a leak. He would reply "Ohhh . . . around here, we call it "the Bill" (or "the Bob", or "the Steve", etc.)" And then he would proceed to ask the poor fellow if he needed to use the Bill/Bob/Steve practically every time he would see him.

So if you don't like monger . . . don't use it. Pick a word like punter as Gamahucher suggests, or "john", or "pussy-chaser" or even "customer" (gasp!).

But don't take offense if someone calls you a monger. Don't assume that they are using the same definition as you. Maybe they simply mean that you frequently engage in the somewhat disreputable (but ever so wonderful) pastime of sport-fucking. That's what I think anyway . . .

OK, before any of YOU throw verbal sticks and stones at me for wasting time in what is supposed to be a thread on pen-pals, stay tuned - I actually signed on here today to post about my Philippines Adult FriendFinder experiences last week, not to play word-smith. So coming right up . . .

[QUOTE=Sammon]Thanks for the replies of experienced mongers here who have had good experiences of online dating in PHI.

Sometimes it gets boring with BG's.

But it is a big turnoff when the girl asks for money.

Yes, it is easy to find PHI girls online.
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I see some DateInAsia, Friendster and CherryBlossoms tips in the thread. So I assume this is the right place to post about Adult FriendFinder (AFF) as well.

I hadn't been to Manila in a couple of years but I used to make the usual rounds, mainly pulling (paid) poon from Glorietta Mall, Greenbelt, or - less frequently - going to dodgy massage places like Imperial and Topaz.

Over the past year or so, I have had stunning success pulling free poon through AFF in Indonesia, so when I knew I would be travelling to Manila on business last week, I started working the AFF Philippines postings. I am happy to report that there are plenty of horny women in metro-Manila willing to entertain travelling businessmen (yay!)

Sure, some are clearly professionals looking to trade pussy for peso's. But they're generally pretty transparent about that, and that still leaves lots of luscious, libidinous, little (and fair enough - sometimes NOT so little) libertines liking to lick and lip-lock and lavish labia on the likes of me. I'm talking educated, professional and sometimes even married women of all ages. And I'm talking first-date fucking . . . for free! Is Manila wonderful or what?

I only have the first visit (last week) so far as a data point, so maybe I got really lucky. But the experience was pretty much like I have found in Indonesia on many repeat visits previously, so I tend to think that AFF can be a winning strategy for those of you willing to invest the time, effort and energy to score freebies there.

First, some standard cautions. One, I have no experience with AFF in western markets like the US, UK, Australia, Canada and so on. And I understand that most men playing AFF in those places find it practically useless and a waste of their money. Two, I do have a paid membership which lets me read any female profile and send email to them. It might be possible to pull as a "free" or standard member, but I can't say - I haven't tried it that way. Three, there are all kinds of people on AFF, just like there are all kinds in the real world. But the difference is that on AFF, there seems to be a much higher percentage of nut-jobs and crazies . . . oh, and as far as Asia . . . a much higher percentage of chubbies (aka BBW's) . . . than I believe exists in the general population.

About me - I am in my late 40's and I look ok. Not a handsome guy, but average-looking face and a flat stomach and gym-body from regular trips to the weight-room. Ah, one more thing - I am married and honest about that in my AFF profile, so there aren't any misunderstandings with women looking for their soul-mate. No kidding, there are actually quite a few women on AFF looking for serious relationships. Some tell me to fcuk-off and curse me for cheating on my wife, but most (especially the married ones) tell me that it doesn't matter since they are also just looking for a "friend with benefits". What DOES seem to matter is that I was honest about my situation. Hmmmm . . . I call that win/win (grin).

Plan on investing time in writing emails - lots of them. Any of the hotter women get dozens of proposals every week (some get dozens every DAY), so unless you are a chubby-chaser . . . and I am NOT a fan of the larger ladies . . . then your hit-rate will be discouragingly low. Maybe one or two replies to ten or even twenty emails sent. Better response-rate if you are clever and careful about targeting your message to her profile . . . worse response-rate if what you write looks like a form-letter or spam.

Anyway, I worked the profiles for a couple of weeks before arriving on a week-night last week. I figured too much trouble to coordinate a date for the first night, so I paid for pussy - see my recent post in the Makati thread - on arrival. For the next few days though, I was pounding poon from AFF. It wasn't exactly "free", because I give my dates taxi-money, from prior experience in Indonesia. But the ones I saw last week didn't ask me for money - it was my initiative. And in one case, she angrily returned my money saying "I'm not a hooker". The other woman we were with . . . yes, gentle reader . . . I pulled a freebie three-some with two bi-babes . . . the other woman persuaded her that I meant no disrespect, and all was well in the end (grin again).

Out of time today. I do actually work for a living (smile), and I spent too much time on the preamble here. So stay tuned for at least one more post on the bi-babes of AFF-Philippines. What a great bleeping place you lucky bastards who live in the Phils' get to enjoy. I'm slightly jealous . . .

Just got this from a CB Girl and I thought I had to share it:

"hi im siple, black plexion,''

Seems like a nice girl though, I was thinking, but...... ??

Then I had a rethink, hang on, could I write the same information in Tagalog??

Answer = NO, not yet anyway.

Therefore IMHO the girl deserves credit for trying, just as they all do.

YMMV :)

Cheers , F/Fifty

This is a pic of my DIA date - met her at the airport at 10 pm had banged her by 11pm. Mmmmm

Instead of monger I like the term "hobbyiest".

Agree with 50/50 that Jools has gone to shit. In the 90s it was THE happening place with a great floor show and tons of friendly and cute girls. When I went back last year it was a sad joke playing old Billy Joel songs while lifeless and mediocore dancers shuffled from foot to foot for a VERY sparse audience.

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]"Sticks and stones.[/QUOTE]Your right MPH, whats in a name. When it comes right down to it why not call ourselves sex tourists (although some of us live in the situ so that doesn't work), pussyhounds or just good old fashioned DOMs (dirty old men). That is what people outside our closed little world call us so why not be self aware and honest. But really who gives a flying fuck what others think as we are all mature adults (I hope) and are not hurting anyone (I really hope).

Really interested on your take on AFF. Good article. I'm a member also but haven't dipped my toe (or anything else) yet. Like you say their are lots of lardasses (not my type) and middle aged housewives (not sure I want to go there), but also some cute ones. Hope to give it a go soon and see where it leads.

Cheers,

GH

If a chat room girl claims pregnancy and has details to track down an individual what are there possible options as to any claims from the phils. Obviously dumbness aside about giving them the info to be able to track you down but given there is no verifiable way to determine she is pregnant. Can she go to the embassy and make trouble?

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]BB

The Advanced Search on CB has changed, now I cannot seem to be able to type in the lady's CB number. Anyone else have this issue, maybe just me

DIA? Like any site, tell them you are in town next weeek...you will inundated :D[/QUOTE]I just updated my profile saying I will be arriving in Manila during the week of April 28th. I just want to see what kind of action I get in the next 11 days. Haha

DD

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Your right MPH, whats in a name. When it comes right down to it why not call ourselves sex tourists (although some of us live in the situ so that doesn't work [/QUOTE]
Actually, I think guys living in the Philippines (or any other place for that matter), can pay or otherwise play the local poon and still call themselves sex tourists. That label DOES work.

Look at it this way: the home country (better spell it "****-tree") is the pussy of the home minister. You live there, gentlemen . . . even if you travel away from the home ****-tree from time to time. If you have no home minister, and even if you do, but you travel to foreign pussy locations from time to time, then I say you're practicing sex tourism (grin). Think about it - tourists visit places where they don't live permanently.

On the other hand, some like the new place so much that they move there on a more-or-less full-time basis. Hmmm . . .

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Really interested on your take on AFF. Good article. I'm a member also but haven't dipped my toe (or anything else) yet. Like you say their are lots of lardasses (not my type) and middle aged housewives (not sure I want to go there), but also some cute ones. Hope to give it a go soon and see where it leads. [/QUOTE]
I still have some more to say about AFF Philippines. I have already said a few things about AFF Indonesia, and so far it looks to me like the scenes are pretty much similar. I will try not to repeat myself, so if you're keen on the subject, do a search on AFF in the Indonesia thread, and you'll find a dozen or so posts from me as well as more experienced tourists like Dorman, Mandiri and a few others.

Stay tuned to this thread for more on AFF in the National Capital Region (NCR). Too busy today to write a long story, but I have at least one more of those to post from last week's AFF harvest in Makati. I got stood up twice by prospective partners who had committed dates with me and confirmed via SMS; hit on by several professionals who made sure I understood they wanted cash for gash (no thanks - I don't use AFF for that, even though I happily pay for poon from other venues); and strung along a few times more by several other game-players . . . which is par for the course. This is court-ship, guys - not pay-for-play - and the ladies offering free poon have TONS of options. So roll with the punches and have a plan-B. Paid-poon is always available if you strike out on the night.

The good news is that the pay-off for my up-front investment of a couple weeks working the emails (hard) was 4 separate freebie dates last week, including both a 22-year old "9" (truly remarkable - maybe my hottest-looking freebie ever) and a 3-some with two also very fine, late-20's, bi-gals who taught me some things I didn't already know about eating pussy, by showing me (on each other), and coaching me while I ate at the Y myself. Wonderful!

Best introduction to the ladies of AFF NCR that I could even imagine. I don't know how I will ever top that first exposure . . . but I sure plan to try when I head back again next month. Definitely!

If you don't want to read my bragging, because I warn you first that I will be mostly doing that, then skip past that next post. Sorry . . . sometimes, ya just gotta tell someone . . . and fer shur it aint gonna be my home-minister. (full smile)

[QUOTE=Skoalbro]I just updated my profile saying I will be arriving in Manila during the week of April 28th. I just want to see what kind of action I get in the next 11 days. Haha

DD[/QUOTE]
G'day Skoalbro, don't know about CB but when I do this on DIA I get inundated with cp #'s. YMMV but don't be surprised if you do. An embarrassment of riches means you will need to be very focused or end up chasing your tail.
AV

[QUOTE=Amavida]G'day Skoalbro, don't know about CB but when I do this on DIA I get inundated with cp #'s. YMMV but don't be surprised if you do. An embarrassment of riches means you will need to be very focused or end up chasing your tail.
AV[/QUOTE]Well I made that "small adjustment" to my CB profile. Presto. Bombarded with emails on CB with quite a few adding cellphone numbers.

Of course the pickings range from young, mid age all the way to grannies, but enough to wade through and save for possible future reference. This will be my 4th trip to the Phils and I'm looking forward again to getting there on the 29th.

One side question for you experts:

I have previously stayed up in the Makati area but I'm staying at the City Gardens in Malate. How close is that to LA Cafe? I haven't been there yet and I had most of my fun up in the Burgos area.

But after reading the Makati threads, seems have seemed to change quite a bit, even from last year.

I've been reading the forum for quite a while now and hopefully I'll be able to chip in with a report or two on my trip.

DD

[QUOTE=Skoalbro]Well I made that "small adjustment" to my CB profile. Presto. Bombarded with emails on CB with quite a few adding cellphone numbers.[/QUOTE]Told Ya! ;) [QUOTE=Skoalbro]I'm staying at the City Gardens in Malate. How close is that to LA Cafe?[/QUOTE]Two blocks on the corner of Del Pilar.(Im not an expert, just helping out)[QUOTE=Skoalbro]after reading the Makati threads, seems have seemed to change quite a bit, even from last year[/QUOTE]Oh really? in what way? AFAIK its still expensive empty bars.
AV

[QUOTE=Adidas32]If a chat room girl claims pregnancy and has details to track down an individual what are there possible options as to any claims from the phils. Obviously dumbness aside about giving them the info to be able to track you down but given there is no verifiable way to determine she is pregnant. Can she go to the embassy and make trouble?[/QUOTE]Hello Adidas, does chat room have any significance to this question?

Lets talk theory first :
DNA testing is available in PI. I cant personally vouch for the accuracy but if its like the private health system here in PI, its as good as most western countries. If a guy have the resources he can certainly dispute the test findings. Some past posters here have cast aspersions on the PI DNA results. Its possible they can be 'bought' but I'm in no better position to say than anyone else since I don't have personal knowledge. there are labs here that claim to comply to International standards.

There are legal avenues a woman can pursue.

Now lets talk reality :
Unless the girl comes from a prosperous family she will not have the resources to pursue a guy further than making a complaint.

If there is any possibility that a man responsible (ie he fucked her) then the right thing to do is check if its his & if so, get her an abortion or stand by the girl for her child raising costs. This country has a shameful number of young poor girls in no position to support fatherless children many of whom are born to foreigners.

How much will it cost?
Paternity testing could be about P20,000

Abortion will cost about P25,000 all in all i.e. illegal abortifiicient pills, OBGYN doctor visits & operation to remove the 'incomplete abortion'.

Child care costs Im guessing maybe P20,000/month for the next 18 years.

Hope this helps
AV

Hi,

I'm looking for friends and relationship. I am 23yro 5'3ht and pilipinachinese beauty. From Mandaluyong City Manila Phil.

Thanks