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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1148499]Try setting it into 2G and it might work, or change provider.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but the service plan I am on prohibits international roaming. Well, the phone works fine, just no data, so no BB Messenger.
[QUOTE]How is the scene at Climax nowadays? Any updates on the variety and charges?[/QUOTE]Doesn't seem like anythings changed from 2 years ago. Except now there's a smoking room.
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[QUOTE=Sir Van Koff; 1148510]Thanks, but the service plan I am on prohibits international roaming. Well, the phone works fine, just no data, so no BB Messenger.
Doesn't seem like anythings changed from 2 years ago. Except now there's a smoking room. [/QUOTE]I always get a local Thai sim with BB services activated on arrival. BBM works and you get your E Mails! Saves lot of money as I paid 900$ for a roaming DATA bill and since then learnt my lesson and wherever I travel try to get a local sim!
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[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1148763]I always get a local Thai sim with BB services activated on arrival. BBM works and you get your E Mails! Saves lot of money as I paid 900$ for a roaming DATA bill and since then learnt my lesson and wherever I travel try to get a local sim![/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll try that next time. Never thought it would be that simple to buy a BB plan in TH.
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Mango. May oils my cock
Miss Quarter Chinese from Biergarten (QCB) suddenly remembered she'd forgotten her sisters be'day and hopped out of bed leaving me nursing a stiff cock. It was 10am Bangkok time.
[B]Mango. May oils my cock[/B]
Got off the BTS from Siam to Phrom Phong. The plan was to find Mango Massage and get off once more, this time the more pleasurable kind. Needed to rest my aching legs, a result of 2 hour marathon shopping at Paragon. No issues finding Mango. Just take the Soi 24 exit at the BTS, walk down Soi 24 and Mango massage, EZ massage etc. Can be found in a small cul-de-sac on the left. Walked in with my backpack and shopping bags. Asked the pleasant girl at the counter for a 2hr special. Paid 800B whilst the gaggle of gals the couch sized me up. A light skinned plump cutie got up to accompany me upstairs. Probably must've assumed that this brown man prefers white and curvaceous women. I said I wished to chose myself and sent her back. Picked brown skinned petite May who looked barely out of her teens. Her mouth and lips were red from sucking on a lollipop. Soon I'd have her sucking on some meat. She carried my bags while I followed her up 2 flights of stairs.
There was an immediate and positive connection upstairs in the room, despite her almost zero english and my non-existent thai language skills. May is petite, boyish short spiky hair, skin browner than mine a few tatts here and there.
She made me wait some time whilst fetching her massage basket. Just enough time for me to finish a cigarette and a few swigs of Heineken. The room is basic but adequate. Bed too hard for my tastes and shower too small.
She returned. Clothes came off. Little beads of sweat on her back and upper lips glistened against her dark skin. She grabbed my cock and stuck her tongue in my ears before suggesting we go into the shower. A scrub down was followed by a few deep throating attempts. 10/10 for enthusiasm and attitude.
What followed was a leisurely baby oil massage for a good 40 mins or so. I dozed off. She woke me up with a body to body massage. Flipped me and continued the rub, tug, slip and slide routine with some anal fingering and ball rubbing thrown in.
Started to doze off again. Was woken up by some vigorous sucking of my oily cock followed by pussy and ass rubbing on my torso. She tried to slide my cock into her **** a couple of times and I tactly repositioned her. Wiping off the oil from my dick, I lectured her on the dangers of mixing oil and latex. May slipped on a condom and rode me for some time. Cowgirl, side cowgirl, reverse cowgirl. The sound of the air con straining against the afternoon heat, the smell of oil, sweat and sex, the feel of May's young tight **** gripping my cock was making me dizzy and pushing me towards an early cIimax. I stopped and proceeded to pound her missionary, doggy style and from behind while she lay flat on her tummy, moaning. I exploded inside her and just lay on top of her for a minute, both of us panting, my mouth on her neck, tasting the heady mix of sweat and oil. The air con continued to dron in the background.
Sitting on the edge of bed, I lit a cigarette. May sat behind me and rubbed my back, kissed my neck and licked my ears. My cock dripped remnants of spent jism onto the tiled floor while I reached for the bottle of the now flat beer.
Took some time cooling off, scrubbed each other, got dressed and went down. May got me a comb and I paid 100B to the counter girl. She wasn't expecting a tip or the 60B for beer. Seemed pleasantly surprised. Walked out with a grin on my face and caught the skytrain to Nana plotting my next move.
[I]PS: These reports cover my recent trip and appear in no particular chronological order. Any unexplained characters and references will make sense when you read all my reports. Stay tuned for more. [/I]
Cheers,
SVK
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Baccara Report
I was in BK a few weeks ago and had an opportunity to hangout at Baccara. I love the mirrors, and the pussy views, nothing like that in the US or Canada. I negotiated a trio with two little hotties. 2,200 each ST, and paid the bar fine. On the way out, one of the girls asked if we could walk ahead and she would follow. No problem. We walked towards the nearby hotel on Asoke (500 Bht). After a few steps, I realized the girl trailing had disappeared. Slick move! We went back to the club, I explained the situation and the Mamasan refunded my bar fine.
We continued on, the other girl was apologizing, and was close to crying. We made it to the hotel and had a great time. DFK, DATY. 69, multiple positions, she said it was her first time going with a customer, which I actually believe.
A nice experience after a rocky start.
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[QUOTE=Duniawala;1147547]So please stop whining and crying. It is an open market with all kinds of supply and demand. Find your niche and go for it.[/QUOTE]Duni,
You saved your most important point of all for last. Could not agree more. Its a free market and no one can control it. Eat at the Restaurant you can afford. Some of us pay more at perhaps a Japanese Restaurant simply because we have the money and we like the quality and because we know no better. Its useless for others to claim its a rip-off. The only difference is that restaurants fix the price the same for all customers and don't allow bargaining. Otherwise its similar.
Bar girls have the freedom to charge different amounts for different customers and they do, or decide against the customer entirely. I have had knock backs and just have to accept it. MP Girls are more or less stuck with a fixed price regardless of the customer (aside from extra tips) , but the girl chose to work in an MP.
I can see that price is everything to many punters, but not to me. If I see something I really want, I might be prepared to pay more for it (with limits). Same as I don't buy the absolute cheapest notebook computer and same as I don't eat at McDonalds. I might eat at Restaurant X. Is it a bargain price? No, but a certain quality is expected for paying a lot more than on the street. Others will argue some local Chinese Cafe has good food and a very good price. Do I go there often? No. The staff there are grumpy and the menu is limited. Price is not everything to all people, just to some, especially those who are retired from work or close to it.
Posters that live in Thailand all the time must be aware that some ISGers are coming from other countries for short visits. Everything seems cheap in the sex arena. What a guy pays for a girl for one hour in Europe will allow him to get a girl for the whole day and night in Thailand and have left over. For guys that have money, there is just no need for them to quibble over a few hundred Baht which might be just $20 US.
Yes yes, guys with money to throw around are spoiling the market. Nothing can be done about it. The number of sex tourists is just far too massive.
And to the punter complaining about this topic and the lack of girl and venue reports, yes, I agree with that too.
This is Bangkok (at least the thread is) , not the cheapest place, and not recommended to those for whom price is everything.
Sorry about the lack of humour too, and the lack of that negative device called Sarcasm or Irony which is actually the lowest form of wit, and far too basic to be really that funny.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1148854]Duni,
You saved your most important point of all for last. Could not agree more. Its a free market and no one can control it. This is Bangkok (at least the thread is) , not the cheapest place, and not recommended to those for whom price is everything. [/QUOTE]You made a good point with the restaurant example.
The fact one is eating at 50$ or 100$ a meal restaurant does not mean McDonald prices are spoiled.
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[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1148857]You made a good point with the restaurant example.
The fact one is eating at 50$ or 100$ a meal restaurant does not mean McDonald prices are spoiled. [/QUOTE]Good one, I hadn't even thought of that. The analogy is possibly valid. Surely punters must realise that times are tough and there are heaps of girls doing it hard in tough neighbourhoods. There is an over supply of girls right now. There will still be bargains regardless of what the Japanese guys are paying at Thaniya Plaza and at Bacarrat in Cowboy.
I don't think customers at the venues with best prices are likely to be over paying so much. These customers could easily go to a more up market venue.
There is also an incredible over supply of Oily MPs, which is probably why prices there have changed little in a long time.
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Annie's
I visited Annie's a few weeks ago. I can't recall the girls name but, she was slim with very large bolt-ons, unfortunately the work done was not stellar. She was in the second room from the right. In either case, she was a lot of fun, with good English, excellent BBBJ, tit fucking, and multiple positions. She offered anal, after my fingers explored her nice ass, for 1, 200 Baht. After some haggling. Its an odd experience to haggle while pounding a pussy! I agreed, and she took it like a champ. It seemed a little high in price but I thought it was good value compared to German FKKs.
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Market Price
There is no market price as such unless the barfine is all inclusive. Thailand is well known as sex destination. Also it is well known as other than sex destination. So the volume of tourists are very high. It is impossible to hold the price to a certain level. There will always be somebody willing to pay a higher price.
Only Angeles city in Phi where the all inclusive barfine is in effect, the price can be controlled. Even there the girls may prefer high tipping patrons and ignore others. But atleast we know at what price we get the girl.
It is just the nature of things. Some splurge and others are economical. As far as the girls are concerned they will try to get most money all over the world.
There is no point blaming any one person of overpaying.
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Pricing
Thanks everyone for your viewpoints. So I guess we can finally agree that the market dynamics sets the price. Let us now, please, please, not discuss pricing anymore in the context of over / underpaying. Thank you gentlemen.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1148854]Duni,
You saved your most important point of all for last. Could not agree more. Its a free market and no one can control it. Eat at the Restaurant you can afford. Some of us pay more at perhaps a Japanese Restaurant simply because we have the money and we like the quality and because we know no better. Its useless for others to claim its a rip-off. The only difference is that restaurants fix the price the same for all customers and don't allow bargaining. Otherwise its similar.
Bar girls have the freedom to charge different amounts for different customers and they do, or decide against the customer entirely. I have had knock backs and just have to accept it. MP Girls are more or less stuck with a fixed price regardless of the customer (aside from extra tips) , but the girl chose to work in an MP.
I can see that price is everything to many punters, but not to me. If I see something I really want, I might be prepared to pay more for it (with limits). Same as I don't buy the absolute cheapest notebook computer and same as I don't eat at McDonalds. I might eat at Restaurant X. Is it a bargain price? No, but a certain quality is expected for paying a lot more than on the street. Others will argue some local Chinese Cafe has good food and a very good price. Do I go there often? No. The staff there are grumpy and the menu is limited. Price is not everything to all people, just to some, especially those who are retired from work or close to it.
Posters that live in Thailand all the time must be aware that some ISGers are coming from other countries for short visits. Everything seems cheap in the sex arena. What a guy pays for a girl for one hour in Europe will allow him to get a girl for the whole day and night in Thailand and have left over. For guys that have money, there is just no need for them to quibble over a few hundred Baht which might be just $20 US.
Yes yes, guys with money to throw around are spoiling the market. Nothing can be done about it. The number of sex tourists is just far too massive.
And to the punter complaining about this topic and the lack of girl and venue reports, yes, I agree with that too.
This is Bangkok (at least the thread is) , not the cheapest place, and not recommended to those for whom price is everything.
Sorry about the lack of humour too, and the lack of that negative device called Sarcasm or Irony which is actually the lowest form of with, and far too basic to be really that funny. [/QUOTE]No need to be sorry, you just said it as it is, and none of the thousands posts on this forum or any other will change those facts. Just to illusrarte what you said, look at all those posts vilifiing, mocking the "short dicks". If they were reading this forum (they are not) , they would lough all along at those whining "ling dicks" (really?) who cannot affort the girls that they can afford!
Amen!
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1148861]Good one, I hadn't even thought of that. The analogy is possibly valid. Surely punters must realise that times are tough and there are heaps of girls doing it hard in tough neighbourhoods.
There is also an incredible over supply of Oily MPs, which is probably why prices there have changed little in a long time. [/QUOTE]Not to' mention how much you pay a burger in a 4 or 5 star hotel: 5-10 times the cost of McDonald and the food is pretty much the same! Both establishments are making a living. Sometime I eat a burger@McDonald and sometime at an expensive hotel and nobody comes to me to tell me I am neither a cheap Charlie nor I am an idiot to pay so much at the hotel for the dame food. A more mongering related example comes from Singapore. The same girl at OT charges more if you pick her up at the non far Brix.
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The point of discussing prices is that unlike Hotel Food, Restaurant or McD's. The girls have no price tag hanging around their neck.
It is therefore highly needed to keep banging on about prices so newbies and visitors are clear on the pricing levels in BKK.
Standard "massage" places that offer extra's. Nobody should be paying more than :
500baht for a HJ,
1000 baht for body with BJ
1500 baht for FS.
Lots of my friends tell me though they get a steady stream of tourists paying 1000 baht just for a HJ finish. Because they know no different.
Short time romps for what I consider "acceptable" quality, depending on the time of the month and need of money by the girl cheaper is possible :
SW Chinatown. 500B to 1000B.
SW Nana / Sukhumvit area. 1000B
Beer Garden Soi 7. 1000B to 1500B.
Thermae. 1500B to 2000B (some girls are Jap only. But only about 25%)
Climax / Bangkok Beat / Gullivers. 1500B to 2000B.
Gogo. 2000B.
Long Time prices :
Beer Garden Soi 7 2000B.
Thermae. 2000B to 3000B (many girls only want short time as they are office workers during the day)
Etc.
I think people posting this kind of informaiton is very informative to newbies etc. When I go to other countries I like to find easy access to latest prices so I know what the going rate is.
Keep on discussing BKK prices people. Its important.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1148904]Not to' mention how much you pay a burger in a 4 or 5 star hotel: 5-10 times the cost of McDonald and the food is pretty much the same! Both establishments are making a living. Sometime I eat a burger@McDonald and sometime at an expensive hotel and nobody comes to me to tell me I am neither a cheap Charlie nor I am an idiot to pay so much at the hotel for the dame food. A more mongering related example comes from Singapore. The same girl at OT charges more if you pick her up at the non far Brix.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1148904]Not to' mention how much you pay a burger in a 4 or 5 star hotel: 5-10 times the cost of McDonald and the food is pretty much the same![/QUOTE]No way in hell.
Mc donalds meat Grammage, Quality is far from the Burgers you get in Hi-class establishments.
Go to a few places here and try a burger (ok, granted you will pay 300 or 400 thb) but chances are you will get 200g of meat, juicy and fresh meat (not the frozen Mc Donald Crap).
Needless to say the Buns and vegetables used are also of superior Quality.
In my eyes, there is no comparison. Mc Donalds sucks beyond belief.