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[QUOTE=PeterTheGreat; 1234895]Gentlemen:
I have a friend. Mid 50's. Just got put on disability a year ago because of an accident at work. Approximately 10 years ago he goes to Russian and meets "the love of his life" at a romance social. 1st mistake. The letter's flow and he goes back and sees her and files for a Fiancee Visa with immigration and brings her and her teenage son and daughter to "the land of the big PX".2nd mistake. He is from Wyoming and has no education except a GED. Has a good union job and makes a 110K per year. She doesn't like Wyoming (she is from Kingissep) and talks him into giving up his seniority and moving to the Pacific Northwest. Well, her being a city girl she wants the best house, car, money. 2K purses. The list goes on an on. Fast forward 9 years. He's injured and placed on disibility and she now has a green card, good job, and her kids have been educated compliments of his 401K. On top of that he got her son out of being drafted into the Russian army. She decides that she doesn't want him around all the time and says she wants out. THEN the credit card bills arrive to the tune of 57K. He get's hung for all of it and has to declare bankruptcy. The house is stripped of the leather couches and all the goodies when he come home to a restraining order. He has to pay income tax on the 401K loans and is virtually BROKE. And disabled with no job. When you meet these girls BEWARE! They are no different than the ladies here in the US. Sometimes worse and the legal system protects them to no end from the "sex-maniac" Americans. Trust me gents the word is out over there on how to clean someone out and leave. P4P for ever![/QUOTE]Perhaps the lady this guy married wasn't a P4P lady. She was just an average woman from Russia with unrealistic expectations in USA.
I've known a couple other guys who married Russian women. These women probably never worked P4P, and their sexual attitude sucked. Their guys these ladies labeled as sex maniacs, when they found the guys' porn stashes. And of course, these guys didn't get to have much sex with their Russian wives, even the most simple sex in the missionary position.
I'd say that if you are going to marry a Russian woman, then marry a P4P lady, who has decided to retire. Because you probably will have a lot better understanding with her than you will have with a woman, whom you meet through a dating agency.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;1268771]I'd say that if you are going to marry a Russian woman, then marry a P4P lady, who has decided to retire. Because you probably will have a lot better understanding with her than you will have with a woman, whom you meet through a dating agency.[/QUOTE]This is total BS nonsense. I have never met a Russian woman that wasn't a freak in bed. They are into the hard-core, long and passionate no holds barred sex. They like it rough and dirty. They are sexual bombs. All of them.
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[QUOTE=Prosal;1268887]This is total BS nonsense. I have never met a Russian woman that wasn't a freak in bed. They are into the hard-core, long and passionate no holds barred sex. They like it rough and dirty. They are sexual bombs. All of them.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you've met only P4P Russian ladies and not normal people off the street.
If you go to bars and look for ladies to sleep with, then you will probably find them. But they aren't necessarily representative of the general population.
The Russian women I've known were religious women, whose anti-sex attitude was a part of their religious beliefs. And women like this you might meet and become friends with through non-P4P dating websites and places.
And if you think that a religious woman won't take advantage of you financially, then you are wrong. Because if she thinks that you are a sinner, then this justifies in her mind her punishing you financially during divorce and separation.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1269403]It sounds like you've met only P4P Russian ladies and not normal people off the street.
If you go to bars and look for ladies to sleep with, then you will probably find them. But they aren't necessarily representative of the general population.
The Russian women I've known were religious women, whose anti-sex attitude was a part of their religious beliefs. And women like this you might meet and become friends with through non-P4P dating websites and places.
And if you think that a religious woman won't take advantage of you financially, then you are wrong. Because if she thinks that you are a sinner, then this justifies in her mind her punishing you financially during divorce and separation.[/QUOTE]You're talking about something you don't know shit about, as after a quick search on your post historic, it seems that you have never been nor in Russia nor in any FSU country.
Man, you are really full of shit.
Don't know why I even bother to answer to such raving nonsense.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;1269403]The Russian women I've known were religious women, whose anti-sex attitude was a part of their religious beliefs. And women like this you might meet and become friends with through non-P4P dating websites and places.[/QUOTE]I have never crossed an anti-sex attitude among Russians. To be honest, the real sex demons can be found in the church.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;1269403]The Russian women I've known were religious women, whose anti-sex attitude was a part of their religious beliefs.[/QUOTE]WTF?
Russian women have no problem reconciling their religious beliefs with their sexual desires. Forget about the strip clubs, the night clubs, the bars and watering holes. Probably one of the most lucrative hunting grounds for mongers are the Russian churches.
Today is Easter in Russia, and the churches are full of gorgeous babes, their heads bowed low, covered with scarves, asking forgiveness for their sins. After the services, their religious passion can easily be turned into another kind of passion.
Wondering where all the Aurora and Penthouse girls disappeared to today? That's where you guys should be!
As they say in Russia," There can be no confession, without sin!"
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1269583]As they say in Russia," There can be no confession, without sin!"[/QUOTE]Amen brother. Last night about 22:00 there were about 300 gorgeous babes in White Square observing an Easter multi-media presentation on the wall of the old white church. Funnily enough, when the presentation was over they all took off their headscarves piled into the local bars.
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1269583]WTF?
Russian women have no problem reconciling their religious beliefs with their sexual desires. Forget about the strip clubs, the night clubs, the bars and watering holes. Probably one of the most lucrative hunting grounds for mongers are the Russian churches.
Today is Easter in Russia, and the churches are full of gorgeous babes, their heads bowed low, covered with scarves, asking forgiveness for their sins. After the services, their religious passion can easily be turned into another kind of passion.
Wondering where all the Aurora and Penthouse girls disappeared to today? That's where you guys should be!
As they say in Russia," There can be no confession, without sin!"[/QUOTE]My views are based on my experience with Russian women and not on logical reasoning. What seems logical quite often isn't true, because some of your assumptions often are wrong. That's why science based on evidence and not philosophical reasoning is the way to know what's true and what's not true.
There are many non-religious people who pretend to be religious during Easter and during Christmas. And they of course behave like atheists in their lives. But there are also Orthodox nuns who never drink at bars or sleep with guys. And of course, there are many religious women who aren't nuns, but they behave somewhat like nuns, because this is their ideal model of behavior, even when they are married. Marriage for them is to have children and not for sexual entertainment.
In any country, there is a diversity of people. Not everybody is the same. Only those who are ignorant about the country say that everybody is the same. They stereotype the whole people due to their limited experience with the people there.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;1269824]My views are based on my experience with Russian women and not on logical reasoning.[/QUOTE]So are mine.
[QUOTE]What seems logical quite often isn't true, because some of your assumptions often are wrong.[/QUOTE]I agree, absolutely.
[QUOTE]That's why science based on evidence and not philosophical reasoning is the way to know what's true and what's not true.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right.
[QUOTE]In any country, there is a diversity of people. Not everybody is the same. Only those who are ignorant about the country say that everybody is the same. They stereotype the whole people due to their limited experience with the people there.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more. You have described your position very well.
Can we stop this silliness now? You're using up valuable bandwidth.
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1269867]Can we stop this silliness now? You're using up valuable bandwidth.[/QUOTE]This thread is for opinions and advice about Russian women. But not everybody's advice and opinion is equally good to follow. It's important to get at the truth, especially when opinions contradict each other.
I think in every relatively free society, including Russia, people range from sexually conservative to sexually liberated in their behavior. And some people are unstable in their behavior. They keep swinging back and forth between conservative and liberated sexual behavior. And these undecided people are the ones you need to be very careful with. Because you may marry a Russian woman who seems to be sexually liberated, but then a couple years later she may decide to get religious and start behaving almost like a nun with you.
This kind of thing does happen. I've seen it happen. And that's why you need to look at how stable the woman's beliefs and behavior are, even if she seems to be sexually liberated now.
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[QUOTE=Dan7373;1270017]Because you may marry a Russian woman who seems to be sexually liberated, but then a couple years later she may decide to get religious and start behaving almost like a nun with you.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you've had some very specific experiences with [b]a[/b] Russian woman. Why don't you tell us about it?
I mean, other then jerking off your girlfriend on cue.
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Russian women psyche
[QUOTE=Prosal;1255357]. Russian women psyche. Interesting indeed. But don't you think that what is rather unique is that they can mix pragmatism with an enormous potential of emotion and passion? . My experience is that in every Russian woman there is a Anna Karenine or a Natasha Rostova, and that there is a deep-seated belief, typically Russian, for fate and tragedy, which make them the most passionate and emotional creatures on the planet (and wonderful lovers). This per example doesn't exist in Asian women, who are usually very very pragmatic, but also totally cold-hearted and unpassionate.[/QUOTE]Hello Prosal, what about a dinner again in Deda?
My recent experience with A FSU woman. First year she was romantic like Ana Karenina. Fantastic sex, no holds barred. Second year she became cold, and calculating. It seems like the romance never existed.
In opposition, the passion of Brazilian women seems to be longer lived. After breakup either they still love you for life. Or they hate you. And could kill you (I am serious).
I romanced seriously with 3 FSU women and 3 Brazilian women. My first conclusion based on this limited data is that FSU women can be romantic, but intellect and calculation always dominate. With Brazilian women it seems to be exactly the contrary.
Now I am dating a Turkish girl. She only speaks Turkish and I don't. We communicate through Google translator on the iPhone. I'll report on this board.
By the way. After a few years of mongering, I fucked the most beautiful women on the planet, and I have lost interest in it. What I am looking for now is affairs and real passion. There is nothing like sex with a woman that truly desires you, whose sex is dripping wet when you touch her and that you can screw bareback and train to your desires.
Do you guys know of a useful forum for guys like me?
Best regards to all.
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy;1270320]By the way. After a few years of mongering, I fucked the most beautiful women on the planet, and I have lost interest in it. What I am looking for now is affairs and real passion. There is nothing like sex with a woman that truly desires you, whose sex is dripping wet when you touch her and that you can screw bareback and train to your desires.[/QUOTE]Wow, after 525 posts on ISG, you came to that conclusion.
[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy;1270320]Do you guys know of a useful forum for guys like me?[/QUOTE]Yeah. ISG
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[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy; 1270320]Hello Prosal, what about a dinner again in Deda?
By the way. After a few years of mongering, I fucked the most beautiful women on the planet, and I have lost interest in it. What I am looking for now is affairs and real passion. There is nothing like sex with a woman that truly desires you, whose sex is dripping wet when you touch her and that you can screw bareback and train to your desires.[/QUOTE]Hey BB, what's up? Deda is unfortunatly closed now. Let's organize something by sms. Anyhow, I understand you, sex with a pro or a sponsorette isn't the same as having a girl who is in your bed because she REALLY wants to and not because you pay her or because she sees some financial benefit to do so.
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[QUOTE=Climaxnow; 1270340]Wow, after 525 posts on ISG, you came to that conclusion.
Yeah. ISG[/QUOTE]Wow. 162 posts, but the added-value of your last one was below zero.