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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Doc,
If I were you, I'd gather up all the knives in the kitchen now, and put them away for safe keeping. ;)
[/QUOTE]I'm a slow learner. :)
Actually this is a pic of a different girl... also totally different character than the wind-up-doll. Just wants to stay in and fuck. I can deal with that.
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[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Does marry the chick overseas qualify you to bring her back home (the US) ASAP?[/QUOTE]Cruiser,
No, marrying a Russian girl in Russia does NOT automatically qualify her to return to the U.S.
It DOES qualify her to apply for a visa to the U.S. as an immigrant, based on the fact that she is the spouse of a U.S. citizen. But, you will still have to go through all the BS and paperwork, six months to a year. As your spouse, however, her approval is (theoretically) guaranteed.
Why don't you try a Fiance visa, can't remember the letter off-hand, I'm thinking it's an F? With a Fiance visa she can come to the U.S. for 90 days so that you can try her out. :) You will need to prove that the two of you have actually met, in person. And you can only apply for 1 at a time. After the 3rd or 4th, the Embassy might start to doubt your sincerity. :)
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Actually this is a pic of a different girl...[/QUOTE]HA!
OK, fess up, was this pic posed? Or did you just fetch it from your vast foto gallery?
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]HA!
OK, fess up, was this pic posed? Or did you just fetch it from your vast foto gallery?[/QUOTE]I like the girl with knife imagery. Actually I have several girl with knife pictures... it's a new one though, just happened to match your post. If you have any requests however, I'll be happy to arrange something. Girl with RPG? )
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I still have a lot of test driving to do in the FSU before I want to change venues. I was just curious. You would think given the 12 million or so illegals in the country they would give a citizen the benefit of the doubt that he married for all the right reasons.
From what I understand the fiancée visa rules changed with the new mail (internet) order bride regs a couple of years ago. Making it, of course, more restrictive and harder to do. It's too bad the current administration and Congress didn't feel the finance regulations needed to become more draconian too.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky] Why don't you try a Fiance visa, can't remember the letter off-hand, I'm thinking it's an F? With a Fiance visa she can come to the U.S. for 90 days so that you can try her out. :) You will need to prove that the two of you have actually met, in person. And you can only apply for 1 at a time. After the 3rd or 4th, the Embassy might start to doubt your sincerity. :)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Cruiser D]I still have a lot of test driving to do in the FSU before I want to change venues. I was just curious. You would think given the 12 million or so illegals in the country they would give a citizen the benefit of the doubt that he married for all the right reasons.
From what I understand the fiancée visa rules changed with the new mail (internet) order bride regs a couple of years ago. Making it, of course, more restrictive and harder to do. It's too bad the current administration and Congress didn't feel the finance regulations needed to become more draconian too.[/QUOTE]
Actually that information isn't really second hand.
First Sweden is on that "list" of countries that Russia, Ukraine, Moldova and most EE countries are not on, which makes movement as a citizen of say Russia a bit more difficult.
Because of the cozy relationship with the EU, you don't need a visa to visit America for 90 days and paperwork is a SNAP if you get married, they don't assume something shady...
US Military men marry women from where they are stationed OFTEN, they don't have any problems bringing them back, neither should you.
Now if we had a nice relationship with Russia.... Things would be MUCH easier.
As you, I'm still kicking tires.....
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I've been trying to get a few Ukrainian girls to do the hot Commisar Girl vs the American Capitalist Dog but no one has bitten yet. Of course I only do this with the educated slightly older (who know what I'm talking about) girls.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I like the girl with knife imagery. Actually I have several girl with knife pictures... it's a new one though, just happened to match your post. If you have any requests however, I'll be happy to arrange something. Girl with RPG? )[/QUOTE]
And DJ, I'm not trying to discredit you. But by defination unless you are the one who did it it's second hand.
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[QUOTE=Cruiser D]I've been trying to get a few Ukrainian girls to do the hot Commisar Girl vs the American Capitalist Dog but no one has bitten yet. Of course I only do this with the educated slightly older (who know what I'm talking about) girls.
And DJ, I'm not trying to discredit you. But by defination unless you are the one who did it it's second hand.[/QUOTE]
I agree, it just usually "second hand" in our culture means " not creditable"
No offense taken playa... Cruiser Zhivago... I thought you were Cruiser "D" though - ;)
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I'd like to play the role of Sasha Dith in the Russian Girls video. :)
Doc, just to let you know he came out with a super lame American Boy song.
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I haven't read everything about your matter, just I wonder I was unlucky because all my Slavic women wanted a phisical and mental strong man, always with a smile on his mouth, a very fast decisionist (sorry for my english), a cynical behaviour where each one tries to get the maximum from the other and no respect for the "good boy" or the "gentleman": this is the meaning of "? " that we often read in profiles.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]It's true, I have always admired the detached attitude that Russian men have towards their women and we should all be grateful to them for not spoiling them. I guess everything is relative; when you live in a country full of gorgeous women, it takes a lot to impress. Snow is snow, as far as I'm concerned, but the Chukchi can distinguish between a dozen or more different varieties. At some point, Russian men begin to distinguish between different levels of gorgeousness (is that a word?). Wouldn't we all like to live a life like that. (sigh)
I agree with Jake, I'm not sure the "b" word has that much effect on Russian women. They expect it, and as we all know... men only have 1 thing on their mind, right? Despite their cynical exterior, however, Russian women are actually extremely fragile and delicate. But you can't get at them with money and power. Somehow, you have to touch their Русская Душа (Russian Soul).
The two qualities that Russian women admire most in a man are kindness and generosity, probably because these are the qualities that are most lacking in Russian men. But this is not the kindness of, "I will let you shine my shoes", or the generosity of, "I have a billion Euros, so I can pay you 1,000 to sit at a table in your nightclub".
Russian woman have a wonderful way of separating sex from emotion. Give her the keys to a new Beemer and she will squeal with delight and give you a peck on the cheek and, after she returns from her joy ride, most likely, fuck your brains out, because she understands that payment is expected. But, if you stop to give the flower girl an extra 200r and present her with a fresh bouquet of vasil'ki, she will glow like the sunrise of a Siberian dawn. From that point on, she better not catch you fucking anyone else.
And that gets back to the concept of the Russkaya Dushah. Because no matter how much money or power may be offered to her, for a Russian woman, the ultimate goal of life is the satisfaction of the soul.
So, yes, use the "b" word as much as you want, shower her with gifts and take her out on the town, that is the safest approach. Just be careful not to touch her Russkaya Dushah unless you are absolutely serious about her. Because as Jake has pointed out, an enraged slavic female is like a force of nature. It cannot be stopped, it cannot be controlled or even directed, all you can do is find a safe refuge and wait until the storm passes.
But, it's a hell of a ride! :)[/QUOTE]
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just a question for you, u.s. citizens abroad, but do your embassies and consulates work and help you around the world?
because italian embassies do less than nothing and italian citizens abroad prefer to avoid them.
[quote=hecker]grapelli,
just call the us embassy in moscow and ask what the requirements are in these cases.for example maybe they need documents from your side she never told you about.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Acolonizer] a cynical behaviour where each one tries to get the maximum from the other and no respect for the "good boy" or the "gentleman": this is the meaning of "? " that we often read in profiles.[/QUOTE]Not sure what is your question.
It sounds like you met many slavic women who want a strong decisive man, but this is a problem because the relationship is cynical and manipulative?
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[QUOTE=Acolonizer]Just a question for you, U.S. citizens abroad, but do your embassies and consulates work and help you around the world?
Because Italian embassies do less than NOTHING and Italian citizens abroad prefer to avoid them.[/QUOTE]
I've only needed American Citizen Services for simple clerical stuff, but they've always treated me promptly and politely.
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The fiancee visa is the K-1 visa. If you bring a woman over here on a K-1 and then send her back, you have to wait two years until you can do it again.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Cruiser,
No, marrying a Russian girl in Russia does NOT automatically qualify her to return to the U.S.
It DOES qualify her to apply for a visa to the U.S. as an immigrant, based on the fact that she is the spouse of a U.S. citizen. But, you will still have to go through all the BS and paperwork, six months to a year. As your spouse, however, her approval is (theoretically) guaranteed.
Why don't you try a Fiance visa, can't remember the letter off-hand, I'm thinking it's an F? With a Fiance visa she can come to the U.S. for 90 days so that you can try her out. :) You will need to prove that the two of you have actually met, in person. And you can only apply for 1 at a time. After the 3rd or 4th, the Embassy might start to doubt your sincerity. :)[/QUOTE]
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An Evening of Errors
I was out the other night in Moscow with a friend whom I'll call Steve. On an average night, Steve's hooking up with twice the number of girls I am, maybe because of his looks but just as likely because he's completely fearless on the approach. I'm the type that requires some "liquid courage" to improve my approach/odds. Anyway, we're at Che and a couple of cute girls pop in at 1am looking for a table. Steve motions for the girls to join us, and after a few seconds of glancing at us and discussing between themselves, they sit down at our table.
The blonde (Tanya) is the less attractive of the two - not fat, but not fit either - C cups, dirty blonde curly hair and a gap between her front teeth which doesn't bother me, but turns Steve off big time. Steve's big on straight teeth and hygine. Once at HD, he scolded me for flirting with a wasp-waisted girl with big natural tits and ass. "Did you see her [i]hands[/i]? They're fucked up, dude. You do [b]not[/b] want those wrapped around your cock - I'm telling you that." Anyway... the brunette (Natasha) is a total spinner sporting a short, skin tight dress with wide cinch belt highlighting her impossibly small waist (I'm guessing no more than 22 inches), pert tits (somewhere between an A and a B cup) and modestly sized but shapely behind. Her face is quite cute, and she looks to be around 21 (she turned out to be 24, while the blonde is 27).
Tanya tells us she wants to dance and so I hit the floor with her. I'm not exaggerating to say that she dances better than any go-go dancer I'd ever seen - spinning, grinding, shaking, flipping her hair... the entire bar is gawking at her while she does her thing. When we return to the table for a break, Natasha and Steve are getting cozy. Well - I thought - he's getting the younger and better looking one, but mine looks like she'd fuck like a banshee. Among other things, I ask them where they met - if they went to university together or worked together. Well, they're sisters! Given the difference in hair and eye color, it hadn't occurred to me that their nose and face shape in general were nearly identical.
We chat a bit but the girls speak zero English and Steve doesn't speak any Russky. So I play interpreter for a while, entertaining myself by "spicing up" the conversation by adding a little sexual innuendo here and there. But I can't keep that up for too long, and return to dance some more with Tanya, making out on the dance floor. Surprisingly, she doesn't kiss nearly as well as she dances - her tongue is rigid not soft and the motions she makes with it are jerky and not at all fluid - maybe I'm just a kissing snob but I've had a lot better. When we return from our make-out/dancing session, Natasha is now doing her nails at the table, looking bored out of her mind, and I ask Steve why he hasn't asked her to dance. Turns out he's asked her no less than 7 times and she has turned him down each time. I then ask Tanya what the hell is up with her sister, and why she doesn't like a good looking guy like Steve. She giggles a little, and then says so softly I can barely make it out in the loud club "It seems to me that she likes you."
Meanwhile Steve is checking out other viable options in our immediate vicinity: 2 brunettes at 11 o'clock, a blonde at 6 o'clock and a tall, buxom girl in a leopard-print dress at 9 o'clock who's had uninterrupted eye contact with him for the past 5 minutes. He gets up to talk to her and I look over at Natasha to see her burning holes in me with her eyes and unabashedly biting on her dark, silky locks. I ask her to dance and after a minute, she straddles my right leg and starts humping it like a dog for the remainder of the song, her face pressed hard against my chest. She'd already confessed that she has a pierced clit that gives her orgasms easily, so I was thinking she might start coming right then and there! God, I love Russia!
So, to recap. Both sisters are hot for me. Steve doesn't want to leave me without a wingman, but he's getting no love despite his efforts. I don't want to subject him to any more abuse. I also don't get the feeling that the girls would split up. In my alcohol-addled brain, I enumerate the following possible strategies:
A) Make a play for a Pizdyets sandwich on Russian sister bread
B) Switch my focus to Natasha completely and try to convince Steve to pursue Tanya, despite that she's a step down from her little sister
C) Continue drinking and hope that Natasha warms to Steve as her blood-alcohol ratio reaches 1:1
Despite the fact that a menage-a-trois with sisters would fulfill a major fantasy of mine, I didn't get the feeling that it'd actually happen. Still - it was worth a try and I floated the idea with each of them only to get "as if I would share you with [b]her[/b]" expressions in return. Yeah, this was only gonna happen in my dreams.
Though Steve would have jumped on the grenade for me and started working it with Tanya while I closed the deal with Natasha, I opted for choice C and ordered another round of drinks. Long story short (well, shorter) - Natasha got an SMS and started pushing for a change of venue - namely to Parisian Life. Tanya didn't want to leave, but most of Steve's potential targets had already packed up and left, and I was hoping there might be more available meat waiting for him there. So, we hopped in a taxi and headed over.
The crowd density was about the same as Che, with a few cute girls still left. More drinks, more dancing... Occassionally, the girls were both talking to other guys whom they obviously knew. When we accused them of having boyfriends and duping us, they would promptly shove their tongues down our throats (and in Steve's case, Natasha was even flashing him her pierced pussy). At 5am, it was emptying out, and I asked them if they'd like to continue the party at my place. That's when Tanya told me that she needed to be home in an hour to pick up her 6 year old daughter from babushka, but that she wanted to fuck me later in the week. I then asked Natasha what sort of plans she had, and she said that she would do whatever her sister did. No surprise there - just as I expected. At this point, both Steve and I were blitzed drunk and decided they just weren't worth it. We bailed without bothering to get digits or even say goodbye.
Now, the question... where and when did we go wrong? This had one-night-stand written all over it from the start.