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Your Fears Are Not Unwarranted (Robbing Crews)
[QUOTE=Akibono;2430764]What do you think are some risks I am not aware of? I am single so I am not worried about them knowing my name, but I am a bit concerned about my car since plates can easily be traced. Don't want strangers showing up at my place. Not cool.[/QUOTE]See the attached photo where I got myself into a situation that I had no idea of how to escape.
More on that in just a minute.
I know this is an international site, but most guys forget the distinction. What happens in Europe on SA will not work the same in the US. Prostitution is 100% illegal in the US, and most of the scammers and robbing crews on these SB websites are banking on the fact that you will not go to the authorities should they catch you slipping and set you up. I mean, it's illegal right? How much sympathy would you expect the cops to have for you?
Another thing guys fail to realize about SB websites is that you and the female are diametrically opposed:
-Her goal is to get as much out of you as possible without having to do anything for it. Let alone have sex! Most of them would love for you to Cash App them money without them ever having to meet you in person.
-Your goal is to get sex from her without shelling out a bunch of money on gifts and useless dinner dates just to finally get to bang her. Kinda sounds exactly like regular dating, right?
For the REAL SBs on those websites, they basically want a guy that would be someone they would see being someone they would actually be in a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship with, with the added benefit of this person giving them money. Think the Billionaire character in the 50 Shades of Gray movie who has the three 6's all women want: 6-pack, 6-feet tall, 6-figures.
A fat slob that wants to give her money for her honey? "I'm not a pr0 stitut3!
Back to my story.
My main protocol on SA is to never ever agree to meet with any female on SA without FIRST video chatting with her either via FaceTime, Google Hangouts, or Duo because I do not post any photos that show my face (I am also not going to send Snaps via Snapchat back and forth, the conversation has to be in real-time). This cuts down significantly on scammers who are using fake profiles and pretending to be the females in the photos to dupe suckers into sending photos of themselves (yes, there are gangs on those sites profiling "Whales". More on that later).
I only discuss monetary "help" and potential meeting dates / times / locations via video chat, and this has always been fool-proof. Until it isn't.
The broad in the text messaging screenshot attached: We video chat and she seems to be at home alone at the time. Works a normal job and we schedule a time to meet around her work schedule.
(Also key: always try to do these meetings during the early daylight hours, as you will see why in a minute).
We agree to meet at a Starbucks in my area (a very nice part of town).
I get there early and pick a spot in the back of the place near the restrooms. Closer to the meeting time for her to arrive, I look towards the front of the store and there are a handful of Latino males and females pacing out front. They caught my attention so quickly because the looked very much out of place there. One of the younger guys is looking into the store from outside and we lock eyes. They eventually come into the store and go to the counter. The males are paired up with the females and it is made to look like they are all on a date. They sit at a long table not too far from where I was positioned.
I then get a text from the girl I am supposed to be meeting and she says "I'm here". I then reply "I'm inside".
She then texts back the following:
"he said he's inside".
"Wrong person".
"Sorry I didn't mean to send that".
I then freeze the fuck up. "Damn, what's my next move?
100% sure at this point that the Latino crew is with the chick I am supposed to meet (she was a latina). I then get on my cell phone and pretend to be talking to someone. The girl I am meeting finally comes in and walks over to me and sits, looking hella embarrassed by the fact that she's given up the game.
"Who were you talking to?" I say. She replies "I didn't mean to send that. " And that's it. Since again I am certain she is with the young Latino crew, something in my mind tells me to remove this chick from the situation. I immediately get up and say "there's too many people in here. LE't go for a walk" and start to head for the door. She follows promptly behind me.
To shorten this story up a bit, we walk on the strip of this Starbucks and I talk to her as if we are still trying to determine when would be good day and time for her to come over and how much she wanted for it. But I knew I was going to block this scamming h03's number as soon as I could get clear of her. Good thing working in my favor was that she nor they had any idea what I drove there in since I arrived super early (and she was late).
We come back from a bit down the sidewalk of the main street and I stop in front of a BBQ joint that is also on the same strip but a but further down. I tell her "cool, I'll hit you up and we can talk more as we get closer to the date of us meeting. " I give her a hug and then tell her "I'm going to get some lunch!" And then I disappear into the BBQ joint.
Now at this point I am still trying to plot my escape. I had no idea if the Latinos where watching from Starbucks or not. From the restaurant I stand inside and look at my phone like I am waiting on a friend to arrive. I see the scammer girl get into her car and leave, and I keep my eyes on the Starbucks from the restaurant. A little bit later I see the young Latino group all leave out of Starbucks and start to head in the direction of the restaurant. They pause about halfway, linger for a bit, and then go back into the Starbucks. At this point I haul ass to my car, jump in, put it in gear, roll quickly out of the parking lot and blow through the red light.
Just in case I was being tailed, I went out of my way to make wild, sudden turns onto new streets, bust you-turns, and take a much longer route back to my place.
Parting advice for newbs:
Never EVER show your face on those SB websites. All of my photos on Seeking Arrangements have my face blurred or blacked out. Some of those SB websites will not let you hide your face; I would not use those sites at all. You are setting yourself up to be robbed once the robbing crews know what "Big Bank Hank" looks like. Remember how escorts used to hide their faces on Backpage or Craigslist? YOU are the prize on the SB sites. You need to do the same.
Also, never EVER agree to meet a female in person unless you video chat via FaceTime or Google Hangouts or Duo FIRST. Obviously it does not save you from scammers 100% of the time as I have demonstrated in the above story, but my experience has been that it filters out a lot of chaff. Any chick that runs away when you tell them to video chat with you first is 100% a scam chick or not the chick in the photos.
If they ask me to send a photo, I tell them video chat only. Do not send a photo of yourself! I would say at least 85% of the younger female profiles who are less than 25 yrs old are probably Pookie's or Paco's trying to see if you are stupid enough to give away as much personal details about yourself as possible in order for them to figure out where you live and what you drive.
And don't be so much of a chump that you would send money to a chick you've never met in person! I have had females on SA tell me that they need to be compensated to talk to me via video chat or for meeting me in person. If a chick tells you she needs to be compensated for meeting you or talking with you via video chat to determine if the two of you could potentially help one another out, tell that h0 e to get lost!
Hope someone out there gets value from this post and use it to avoid getting got.
OMG Do Not Follow This Advice
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2432465]See the attached photo where I got myself into a situation that I had no idea of how to escape.
More on that in just a minute.
I know this is an international site, but most guys forget the distinction. What happens in Europe on SA will not work the same in the US. Prostitution is 100% illegal in the US, and most of the scammers and robbing crews on these SB websites are banking on the fact that you will not go to the authorities should they catch you slipping and set you up. I mean, it's illegal right? How much sympathy would you expect the cops to have for you?
Another thing guys fail to realize about SB websites is that you and the female are diametrically opposed:
-Her goal is to get as much out of you as possible without having to do anything for it. Let alone have sex! Most of them would love for you to Cash App them money without them ever having to meet you in person.
-Your goal is to get sex from her without shelling out a bunch of money on gifts and useless dinner dates just to finally get to bang her. Kinda sounds exactly like regular dating, right?
For the REAL SBs on those websites, they basically want a guy that would be someone they would see being someone they would actually be in a boyfriend / girlfriend relationship with, with the added benefit of this person giving them money. Think the Billionaire character in the 50 Shades of Gray movie who has the three 6's all women want: 6-pack, 6-feet tall, 6-figures.
A fat slob that wants to give her money for her honey? "I'm not a pr0 stitut3!
Back to my story.
My main protocol on SA is to never ever agree to meet with any female on SA without FIRST video chatting with her either via FaceTime, Google Hangouts, or Duo because I do not post any photos that show my face (I am also not going to send Snaps via Snapchat back and forth, the conversation has to be in real-time). This cuts down significantly on scammers who are using fake profiles and pretending to be the females in the photos to dupe suckers into sending photos of themselves (yes, there are gangs on those sites profiling "Whales". More on that later).
I only discuss monetary "help" and potential meeting dates / times / locations via video chat, and this has always been fool-proof. Until it isn't.
The broad in the text messaging screenshot attached: We video chat and she seems to be at home alone at the time. Works a normal job and we schedule a time to meet around her work schedule.
(Also key: always try to do these meetings during the early daylight hours, as you will see why in a minute).
We agree to meet at a Starbucks in my area (a very nice part of town).
I get there early and pick a spot in the back of the place near the restrooms. Closer to the meeting time for her to arrive, I look towards the front of the store and there are a handful of Latino males and females pacing out front. They caught my attention so quickly because the looked very much out of place there. One of the younger guys is looking into the store from outside and we lock eyes. They eventually come into the store and go to the counter. The males are paired up with the females and it is made to look like they are all on a date. They sit at a long table not too far from where I was positioned.
I then get a text from the girl I am supposed to be meeting and she says "I'm here". I then reply "I'm inside".
She then texts back the following:
"he said he's inside".
"Wrong person".
"Sorry I didn't mean to send that".
I then freeze the fuck up. "Damn, what's my next move?
100% sure at this point that the Latino crew is with the chick I am supposed to meet (she was a latina). I then get on my cell phone and pretend to be talking to someone. The girl I am meeting finally comes in and walks over to me and sits, looking hella embarrassed by the fact that she's given up the game.
"Who were you talking to?" I say. She replies "I didn't mean to send that. " And that's it. Since again I am certain she is with the young Latino crew, something in my mind tells me to remove this chick from the situation. I immediately get up and say "there's too many people in here. LE't go for a walk" and start to head for the door. She follows promptly behind me.
To shorten this story up a bit, we walk on the strip of this Starbucks and I talk to her as if we are still trying to determine when would be good day and time for her to come over and how much she wanted for it. But I knew I was going to block this scamming h03's number as soon as I could get clear of her. Good thing working in my favor was that she nor they had any idea what I drove there in since I arrived super early (and she was late).
We come back from a bit down the sidewalk of the main street and I stop in front of a BBQ joint that is also on the same strip but a but further down. I tell her "cool, I'll hit you up and we can talk more as we get closer to the date of us meeting. " I give her a hug and then tell her "I'm going to get some lunch!" And then I disappear into the BBQ joint.
Now at this point I am still trying to plot my escape. I had no idea if the Latinos where watching from Starbucks or not. From the restaurant I stand inside and look at my phone like I am waiting on a friend to arrive. I see the scammer girl get into her car and leave, and I keep my eyes on the Starbucks from the restaurant. A little bit later I see the young Latino group all leave out of Starbucks and start to head in the direction of the restaurant. They pause about halfway, linger for a bit, and then go back into the Starbucks. At this point I haul ass to my car, jump in, put it in gear, roll quickly out of the parking lot and blow through the red light.
Just in case I was being tailed, I went out of my way to make wild, sudden turns onto new streets, bust you-turns, and take a much longer route back to my place.
Parting advice for newbs:
Never EVER show your face on those SB websites. All of my photos on Seeking Arrangements have my face blurred or blacked out. Some of those SB websites will not let you hide your face; I would not use those sites at all. You are setting yourself up to be robbed once the robbing crews know what "Big Bank Hank" looks like. Remember how escorts used to hide their faces on Backpage or Craigslist? YOU are the prize on the SB sites. You need to do the same.
Also, never EVER agree to meet a female in person unless you video chat via FaceTime or Google Hangouts or Duo FIRST. Obviously it does not save you from scammers 100% of the time as I have demonstrated in the above story, but my experience has been that it filters out a lot of chaff. Any chick that runs away when you tell them to video chat with you first is 100% a scam chick or not the chick in the photos.
If they ask me to send a photo, I tell them video chat only. Do not send a photo of yourself! I would say at least 85% of the younger female profiles who are less than 25 yrs old are probably Pookie's or Paco's trying to see if you are stupid enough to give away as much personal details about yourself as possible in order for them to figure out where you live and what you drive.
And don't be so much of a chump that you would send money to a chick you've never met in person! I have had females on SA tell me that they need to be compensated to talk to me via video chat or for meeting me in person. If a chick tells you she needs to be compensated for meeting you or talking with you via video chat to determine if the two of you could potentially help one another out, tell that h0 e to get lost!
Hope someone out there gets value from this post and use it to avoid getting got.[/QUOTE]Look I am sorry you had a scary experience. But using that one experience to paint all of SA is just wrong. The one good piece of advice in the above is never send money. Any girl who asks for money upfront instant block. The rest of it will assure you a horrible SA experience. You do not need to video chat. You don't need to meet in a Starbucks, unless you want to guarantee you won't be laid that day.
I've done 17 US based SA since June and none have been anything other than nice girls, except for one that I knew was a straight up hooker from our interactions. And her only problem was she was late and lazy. Of course I had screened out any scammers and cash girls. I don't doubt that it CAN happen; but I think the chances are very very low.
I am sure others here who have been using it successfully will agree.
Oh and I do agree with u though that real SA girls are not willing to fuck a fat slob for money. In fact the moment it smells vaguely like sex for money u are done. You have to have at least decent looks and some game if u wanna close the hotties and they wont meet u without a pic. I would never post on SA but will text an unsearchable pic after we are comfy.