Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2450233]So what is? Over reported or under reported? Many are dying. Maybe you don't know any of them, or anybody who knows any of them. Many are dying of Covid19. The entire world is reporting. What we do know is that after the incubation time in places opening despite the infection and death rate increasing the shit could hit the fan or as The Stable Genius predicts " it will go away even without a vaccine" Today is day three after opening in the great state of Texas. You don't see Pence with the "15 day" postcard anymore. He's in quarantine. Robert F. Kennedy wrote the forward to a book by a debunked anti-vaccination PhD. Her video is on a site featuring Proud Boys and Alex Jones.[/QUOTE]People are dying! Run! Hide!

It seems you in favor of shutting the world down in fear from this virus and hiding in the corner wearing masks until we all die of poverty waiting for a vaccine.

In my opinion, Sweden did it right. These lockdowns are absurd. I say the world should open up immediately and use the Sweden model.

But if you have a better solution, I would love to hear it.

The virus is still raging over Europe and the world, and even though in some places is clearly slowing down we don't really know when all this will be over. Maybe next year with the right vaccine, maybe in summer if the virus will mutate in a less dangerous flu, or maybe it's something that will go on for years. Fact is that we live in a diffent world now, and we don't know yet the whole impact that it will have in our lives.

I say that because in these days of quarantine I have different thoughts.

I miss my mongering trips, every day I recall my nights in my favourite red lights districts and how exciting was spending the night going through all the brothels. I really miss those times and I realize they were part of my freedom. But then I think back on how it worked: of course I took precautions, but still it was me walking naked in dirty rooms, not thinking where I put my clothes, if the bed was clean (most of the times low and purple lights don't let you see that), and what happened just before me to the girl I was touching. And there are those times when you loose control and start to lick and touch where you shouldn't.

So. Will I be able to do that again when all will be open? Or the fear is going to stop me, making me unable to enjoy a beautiful girl?

Fun sex always comes with some recklessness, and even if most of the brothels will be able to reopen again (nad I doubt that), fun won't be like before I fear.

All this depend on how much you are willing to risk on your health. COVID 19 looks to be very aggressive, and therefor is able to survive even several days on metallic parts. The girls will not be able to be virus free even they take a shower after each customer, they will never wash their hair 10 times a day or make up 10 times a day. Probably the girls and mongers who will restart their activity will be those who have nothing to loose so also the less careful one, for the girls money is over everything and for the guys sex is over everything.

I will stay out of the P6 scene for long time for sure, going to a prostitute, without licking, being afraid to get sick mat any moment. Probably the service will be also not the top, LU depressed, better to safe the money for better times.

This Virus is a killer, and far more difficult to protect against it compared to HIV.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2450233]So what is? Over reported or under reported? Many are dying. Maybe you don't know any of them, or anybody who knows any of them. Many are dying of Covid19. The entire world is reporting. What we do know is that after the incubation time in places opening despite the infection and death rate increasing the shit could hit the fan or as The Stable Genius predicts " it will go away even without a vaccine" Today is day three after opening in the great state of Texas. You don't see Pence with the "15 day" postcard anymore. He's in quarantine. Robert F. Kennedy wrote the forward to a book by a debunked anti-vaccination PhD. Her video is on a site featuring Proud Boys and Alex Jones.[/QUOTE]So you clearly haven't studied communication and media.

Just using the words like 'debunked', 'fake news', fact-checkers', 'Alex Jones', 'conspiracy theory', 'flat earthers', 'proud boys' and 'great state' are all nothing but no-use framing terms with zero meaning to them. And as the flat earth theory was started as a funny joke and later abused for propaganda against other conspiracy theories in the wake of Snowden and Assange, to smear the entire Anonymous movement, half the other words on your list are also a part of that campaign. And people like Michael Moore who was paid out, and later Alex Jones, who is also paid out in order to make every truther into a crazy joke are nothing but diversions. Fact-checkers are always subjective, and so is fake news. A conspiracy theory is the life of an investigative cop 24 hours a day, 356 days a year, but the framing is different, and the society depends on it. News media used to have the same societal function, but in the past 20 years Google, Facebook and others have changed the global media market so much that 99% of journalists have sold their soul to the devils known as PR companies.

OK, that was lecture 101.

But whatever. There is a reason they call it 'herd immunity' when the SHEEP all injects mercury and other poisons into their bodies. Even doctors are brainwashed by university curriculum taught to them at school. Forced upon the institution by named PR companies working for the devil. The old might dollar.

And that was lecture 102.

[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2450061]With Obama this crisis would not have been a disaster in US. Biden is not the best and I am worried about how weak can be him in facing with Republicans. Trump could win if he announces the vaccine before November.[/QUOTE]Didn't Obama try to change about healthcare? I'm not American, I may be stupid, but I can't understand about Trump, Reagan before, compare to Obama and furthermore for image of cleverness. Just from Europe of course, but Trump is a worry for us, when we don't laugh.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2450382]People are dying! Run! Hide!

It seems you in favor of shutting the world down in fear from this virus and hiding in the corner wearing masks until we all die of poverty waiting for a vaccine.

In my opinion, Sweden did it right. These lockdowns are absurd. I say the world should open up immediately and use the Sweden model.

But if you have a better solution, I would love to hear it.[/QUOTE]I was amazed 90% of Swedish didn't go on Easter holidays when no confined and they were allowed, when French thought they were on holidays when confined start, they wanted to move in other more quiet places in France and move virus with them, so government forbid moving for holidays, so most took holidays for nearly 2 months being paid 84% , but staying at home. Virus figures are much more about society behavior than medical level, when Africa manage quite well. Like Americans, French want to go to the beach now and in US or France, when sea is 2 meters depth, really not many to swim.

Under-reported. Every nation has a huge incentive to do so. Nobody wants to be the outlier where most people (per 100 K inhabitants) died.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2450233]So what is? Over reported or under reported? Many are dying. Maybe you don't know any of them, or anybody who knows any of them. Many are dying of Covid19. The entire world is reporting. What we do know is that after the incubation time in places opening despite the infection and death rate increasing the shit could hit the fan or as The Stable Genius predicts " it will go away even without a vaccine" Today is day three after opening in the great state of Texas. You don't see Pence with the "15 day" postcard anymore. He's in quarantine. Robert F. Kennedy wrote the forward to a book by a debunked anti-vaccination PhD. Her video is on a site featuring Proud Boys and Alex Jones.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrHo;2450267]USA should always be run by Republicans for stability of the world.

Obama looked good and great speech reading ability, but that's surface, he was worst president of all.

As for Trump, who like how he talk or his behavior or phenomenon he spread, it is not nice thing to hear, but he is one of the greatest president in American history and world, he changed things much more than Obama, some for worst, some for good, but moving forward is important and Trump is poison to kill poison. He has his own agenda, but poison like him is required once in awhile to change things in politic.

However, Trump is acting really bad sadly for Corona virus pandemic. He is old guy in his 70's, so it would be wise if he takes some precaution because if he get infected, imagine the damage it cause to economy and other areas.

Also Mike pence. Mike Pence is one of the politician who was behind bringing Toyota and Honda to USA, specifically to Indiana state creating millions of jobs and billion of US dollars to state, but with corona, I don't know why he was acting the way like he was acting like with mask, he kept on working taking measures, visiting place and now he is in place of possible infection and many others in White House. He is smart guy, but when it comes to corona, he begin to talk about religion as he supposed to be very religious guy.[/QUOTE]Italy is doing well especially in the south.

The predicted nightmare don't happened.

Maybe for the sun connected to vitamin D.

Maybe the population more sparse.

Maybe less pollution.

The fucker and. 1 in Lombardia was a runner.

Cvirus when you ran don't stop in the mouth and go direct to pulmonary.

Fucker and. 1 attended a various runnings with severs hundred people.

[QUOTE=Tropea317;2450473]Italy is doing well especially in the south.

The predicted nightmare don't happened.

Maybe for the sun connected to vitamin D.

Maybe the population more sparse.

Maybe less pollution.

The fucker and. 1 in Lombardia was a runner.

Cvirus when you ran don't stop in the mouth and go direct to pulmonary.

Fucker and. 1 attended a various runnings with severs hundred people.[/QUOTE]Italy dig their own grave when they took easy Chinese money, there is reason why China is not in G7, which just by number they can be easily in G7 as ranked number three in G7 after USA and Japan, but they are not in.

What important after or even during corona is solidarity of G7 nations, high ranked official and high rank citizen knows the importance of it, but problem is working classes and below who do not understand importance of it, which lead to many disasters in various areas of society and world. At least top 2 G7 nations namely Japan and USA are totally together as allies, I hope other nations will give more understanding to US global policies.

Meanwhile China is making many moves, illegal insurgent into south China sea, buying up rock bottom brent oil, and soon they will buy weaken Europe at rock bottom price like buying Romanian prostitutes. EU is taking measures, which is good thing because beside Germany, no EU nations are economically strong enough to stand against China, unfortunately.

Yes, corona virus is a killer but better to understand figures than panic or saying bullshits without knowing anything about countries. Many old people in Italy, 80% of deaths are more than 70 yo in France. Western Europe level of life make you live older and older but then many people are weak when disease like this new virus for Western world. Among less than 70 yo who died in France, 67% had diseases making weak versus virus, meaning less than 7% of deaths didn't think they had health problem which don t mean they didn't have, when many fat think they don t have health problem, but their heart can t work well in fat, and when heart is not efficient, usually some organs won't be so strong. On the other hand, most of infected people and children, don't even know they are infected, virus is even less strong than flu or grippe for them, and they are the most dangerous because without knowing, they can give to many, this is R0. Most of infected children were by parents who didn't know they were infected, when which parents would want to infect own children. People run after mask because they are afraid of virus, but except for weak healthy people and health staff, mask are more not to give to others than to protect us, had been one of Italian problems when it started in Italy, in North, but nobody knew back then. Because of confined which is said to have saved more than 60 000 life, only about 6% french were infected and most of them didn't even know, so if You are really healthy, always better to know about own level for everything, then no reason to panic, but if You have relatives: wife, children, old mother, better to be careful for them, and for sure brothels are real playfield for virus. I think quite impossible no virus when they will reopen. But virus show a lot about behavior in countries: Germans and Swedish respect way of life rules, they manage not so bad. Poverty kill in US and France even different cases and in both, some don t respect confined. Really good surprise is so poor with very average medical level Africa, even they have less old people who already died from other previous diseases, but I also think they have better quality for health foods when they have, than Western Europe and US where we are making weak health our children with so bad new US fast foods for health. Better to be a lonely iron healthy to take risk for brothels which may be R05, new Chinese roulette to play.

Few days ago the municipal give in an envelope one mask prechina value 50 eurocent now go up like novavax yesterday, BTW I have Moderna.

That for my mother aged more than 75 years.

Now the government tell pharmacy you have to sell at 50 eurocent plus vat.

But the pharmacy sell at 2,50 euros so this fucker now say we don't have mask.

So no this fucking stupid mask.

Giovanna come back.

I was almost sure she never come back.

She must in be in love with bologna.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2450561]Yes, corona virus is a killer but better to understand figures than panic or saying bullshits without knowing anything about countries. Many old people in Italy, 80% of deaths are more than 70 yo in France. Western Europe level of life make you live older and older but then many people are weak when disease like this new virus for Western world. Among less than 70 yo who died in France, 67% had diseases making weak versus virus, meaning less than 7% of deaths didn't think they had health problem which don t mean they didn't have, when many fat think they don t have health problem, but their heart can t work well in fat, and when heart is not efficient, usually some organs won't be so strong. On the other hand, most of infected people and children, don't even know they are infected, virus is even less strong than flu or grippe for them, and they are the most dangerous because without knowing, they can give to many, this is R0. Most of infected children were by parents who didn't know they were infected, when which parents would want to infect own children. People run after mask because they are afraid of virus, but except for weak healthy people and health staff, mask are more not to give to others than to protect us, had been one of Italian problems when it started in Italy, in North, but nobody knew back then. Because of confined which is said to have saved more than 60 000 life, only about 6% french were infected and most of them didn't even know, so if You are really healthy, always better to know about own level for everything, then no reason to panic, but if You have relatives: wife, children, old mother, better to be careful for them, and for sure brothels are real playfield for virus. I think quite impossible no virus when they will reopen..[/QUOTE]Some European nations including France panicked, that is why this crazy high death rates happened, they did not need to die if you did not panicked. France did not even know when they already had corona virus last December and when they finally realized they had it, France panicked, which lead to this war level death rates and increasing.

It is not just because of just old age and fat people, not all people who passed away in France are old, fat, obesity etc as you like to believe. Many are also young too. It is because you panicked and lost control of the situation and let medical system destroyed, so nothing was functioning to the extent you did not even had enough medical equipment to save life and had to choose who get life support system etc.

It is very France, you do not even know what failed nor admit about it to make improvement.

So, currently, the situation is, I think:

1. Austria -- FKKs might open on 1st July.

2. Switzerland -- on Aug. 31st?

3. Germany?

Also, when will the EU open up travel to it for non-essential purposes (currently EU citizens can come for some specific reasons only; tourism is not one of these yet!

[QUOTE=MrHo;2450745]Some European nations including France panicked, that is why this crazy high death rates happened, they did not need to die if you did not panicked. [/QUOTE]Honestly, I'm very confused by your statements on panic causing higher death rates. These are very general and obscure statements with very little if any scientific fact presented to even remotely support your hypothesis. As a non-scientist myself, I can only ask questions and hope you can answer with some facts, since you seem to draw hard conclusions.

As I understand, France and many other European nations implemented quarantines similar to what was done in much of the world. This negatively impacted economies but I'm not sure of the balance on profits vs loss of life. Also, it seems company directors, brokers, senior staff might be afforded a higher level of protection while their workers would be subjected to the daily grind and exposure to the virus, in turn possibly higher death rates in lower income groups. This is what we see in the US, although there have been a few high profile deaths from the entertainment industry. My opinion, the entertainment industry deaths from COVID seem on par with the drug and alcohol deaths. In this thought, are you stating in fact that reducing population movement and person to person contact caused an increase in COVID deaths?

I believe France and many other European nations responded with increased testing and contact tracking of people presenting with COVID symptoms. Is this a part of the panic? Are you saying that finding infected people, isolating them until they tested negative, finding those whom they had contact with and isolating them until they tested positive caused more deaths? In my opinion it may have identified those who died as a result of COVID contributing complications, causing a recognized increase of COVID deaths.

I believe France, and you get it by now, found hospital staffs over tasked and understocked on PPE and certain medical equipment. Organizations such as Formula One banned together with their top engineers to design, manufacture or repurpose existing equipment for alternate uses to treat those with extreme COVID complications. Is this an example of panic that cost additional lives to be lost?

As far as Life Expectancy, Japan seems to outpace France by about 2 years in 2019,84 years compared to 82 years. I don't have time to research other health issues within the societies to compare who is fattest, has most diabetes, heart disease, etc. As I said before, we are all stuck on this rock floating in space. Unless you are one of the elite that are chosen for space exploration, you or your descendants, relatives, countrymen, etc. Will be here to deal with this together. Everyone can claim their culture saved the world but a long term look at history will prove that it will be multi national multi cultural efforts that get us through this and the next crisis that will come, until we are extinct or move off from Earth.

WHO now says COVID-19 might never go away. Disturbing? Yes, but let's put this into perspective.

Smallpox used to kill 4 million people a month. Translated to today's world population that would be 16 million a month. The disease could be transmitted by kissing as well as other types of contact.

The Wu-Flu will continue to kill 100-200 K people a month worldwide. Unlike smallpox, most of them will be over 70.

When people learnt about smallpox, did they stop having sex? Did they stop going into work? No, they learnt to accept it as one of the risks of life, until a vaccine was developed.

These days we are wusses.