Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2452425]Link to DW article about permanent closures here.

[URL]https://www.dw.com/en/german-lawmakers-call-for-buying-sex-to-be-made-permanently-illegal/a-53504221?maca=en-EMail-sharing[/URL][/QUOTE]You always have some politicians who are like this in every nation, but it is only minority. They may regulate it further, but it won't die.

Even it does, mongers are mortal, we just migrate to next country, which are Switzerland and Austria.

In the worst case, I hear there is a promise land called Brazil on the other side, deep in amazonian jungle, there is a final promise land LOL!

Mongers are mortal being, we just migrate LOL!

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2452460]I don't think that Germany will adopt the Nordic model and expect business to return to normal once social distancing measures end -- probably in a couple of months at most. There is just too much money pouring into Germany from the sex industry for them to do something so stupid.

If it did happen, all the girls will just move to Austria, Switzerland, Spain and Holland. Don't you think Germans know that?[/QUOTE]I hope you are right and I think you are too. I just don't know to what extent economic benefits factored into the decision to allow prostitution at scale in Germany relative to other neighboring countries. I don't know the amount of direct tax benefits and number of jobs tied to this business directly or indirectly. It probably is not insubstantial. On the other hand, other countries in the region can also open their countries to prostitution to the same extent that DE did but they haven't and that is because money is not the only factor that goes into this formula. And we simply don't know which way the political wind is blowing in DE at the moment on this issue.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2452454]I would not say bad news yet. There are always haters who want to prevent action between two consenting adults behind closed doors.[/QUOTE]I hope that you are right and that ice bears can return to DE FKK. For me, I enjoy visiting DE for many reasons. I like the people there, the excellent food, the safe streets etc. But if FKK is closed for good, I will have to chase after die madchen elsewhere, Holland, Wien, Swiss etc.

Hi guys!

Nice to meet you all, I'm new to the forum. I'd like to ask you if someone know about the situation of stripclubs in Sofia, are they open? Or will they open in the near future? Thank you!

Spot on. It won't happen. German economists are too bright to allow the loss of a fairly unique position in the market.

Need to have a look where the money in going: concerning the girls mostly outside Germany, a lot of FKK, brothels are owned by the rocker gangs, the German government is putting a lot of pressure on them in the recent years. A lot of foreign visitors are already on business trip when they go to the prostitutes, therefor no big impact on the hotel industry, for the local it is changing nothing. Not so sure things will return to normal and even if any cluster will happen in a FKK or brothel for sure they will close for long time.

[QUOTE=Faburi;2452516]Hi guys!

Nice to meet you all, I'm new to the forum. I'd like to ask you if someone know about the situation of stripclubs in Sofia, are they open? Or will they open in the near future? Thank you![/QUOTE]Sofia as in Bulgaria?

If so, check out Bulgaria threat, I am sure there is. Try hitting Europe section and scroll down to find Bulgaria, it maybe more helpful to you if you mean Sofia in Bulgaria.

If it is Sofia strip club in Germany if there is one. Nobody knows beside German government when it will be open, even though many forum posters like to share the information only German government would know and decide, but sex forum poster seems to think this is some kind of free mason level secret society called international sex forum LOL!

[QUOTE=Faburi;2452516]Hi guys!

Nice to meet you all, I'm new to the forum. I'd like to ask you if someone know about the situation of stripclubs in Sofia, are they open? Or will they open in the near future? Thank you![/QUOTE]If you are talking Bulgaria, you have missed the forum thread by a couple countries. If you do go there, I say avoid The Fetish Club. It is about paying way too much for cheap Champaign while trying to get you into a closet with a lady for even more charges. If you do go, and spend enough, they may give you a ride back to your hotel. That's what I heard from a friend.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2452534]Spot on. It won't happen. German economists are too bright to allow the loss of a fairly unique position in the market.

Need to have a look where the money in going: concerning the girls mostly outside Germany, a lot of FKK, brothels are owned by the rocker gangs, the German government is putting a lot of pressure on them in the recent years. A lot of foreign visitors are already on business trip when they go to the prostitutes, therefor no big impact on the hotel industry, for the local it is changing nothing. Not so sure things will return to normal and even if any cluster will happen in a FKK or brothel for sure they will close for long time.[/QUOTE]Colloseum is owned by bikers I think, or whatever that place is called now. Rest, I cannot think of any mega clubs that are owned by bikers beside they do send in some girls in, which I welcome.

[QUOTE=Faburi;2452516].... the situation of stripclubs in Sofia, are they open? Or will they open in the near future?[/QUOTE]Welcome in the section Europe / Bulgaria ..... Sofia.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2452534]...... a lot of foreign visitors are already on business trip ... go to the prostitutes ... no big impact on the hotel industry, for the local it is changing nothing ...[/QUOTE]That's currently a perfect fit for German politics to shut down the FKK and club area in complete. But a new greyzone will be created producing new battle fields for reallocation of assets between the participants in the background. Within the last two decades the rising-up of FKK and sauna clubs created a kind of coat lying on top for the bad sex industry as there was the idea that this should be the best way to handle with P6 in its own closed microcosm located far away from civil life as located outside a big city or even in the hinterland. This was working well until 2010 as the sexworkers in the first decade of this century also saw a chance of new independency. Matching civil life as a hairdresser or medical assistant spending the weekend or the holidays in a club to earn some more money. This was the decade women came over to make their money in Germany buying an apartment in their homecountry (Poland, CZ, Hungary).

The new mobility by members of the European Union resulted in a flooding of German clubs by Romanian women. At least three times per year that each television broadcasting channel produced a documentary on that issue in order to raise attention for criminal aspects. Romanian women meanwhile represent at least 80% of German club scene. And this exploitation has to be stopped as a political task. In addition the health care system in Germany needs new staff which can be recruited that way some may think. A pretty idea, but the ones who come over to Germany to work in the sex industry also recognize that the amount of money to make this way in few years can be much more compared to the salary to earn in a civil job.

[QUOTE=Faburi;2452516]Hi guys!

Nice to meet you all, I'm new to the forum. I'd like to ask you if someone know about the situation of stripclubs in Sofia, are they open? Or will they open in the near future? Thank you![/QUOTE]In which lander is Sofia? Bavaria close to Garmisch-Partenkirchen? But I know can find many Bulgarians with average teeth in RTC, can see cars at 10 am, working as taxi, but not written taxi on car, maybe Uber from Sofia. Long drive.

Europe should decide on mid June for free moving inside EU for Europeans. Austria may be first for business, but can t compete with Paris with street girls with no mask seen since 12 May. I can't understand how Police let these girls work, even prostitution is not illegal in France. But clients can be prosecuted. No risk when going to escorts and much better hygiene.

When Trump claims to take chloroquine for breakfast, french doctors except one decided chloroquine have no real efficiency to cure from virus but can kill many from heart attack, maybe could help US, when from ex communist Slovenia Melania Knaus seems much more clever than him, when a model can be more clever than most powerful country president. Reasons to worry about crazy. US should be far over 100 thousand deaths, even mostly Afro Americabns, before elections.

[QUOTE=Clodius1;2452515]I hope that you are right and that ice bears can return to DE FKK. For me, I enjoy visiting DE for many reasons. I like the people there, the excellent food, the safe streets etc. But if FKK is closed for good, I will have to chase after die madchen elsewhere, Holland, Wien, Swiss etc.[/QUOTE]I have pursued our hobby all over the world. Prior to 2008 Geylang in Singapore was my favorite hobbying site with its streets being a smorgasbord of hundreds nay thousands of delights from South East Asia, then there was a shut down in 2009. Buenos Aires then became my favorite with choices of the most beautiful women in the world to be had all over the city then there was a shut down around 2011/12. Then Changping in China became my favorite with thousands of Chinese beauties available for the taking in saunas and KTVs then the Chinese government shut that down in 2014. Then German FKKs, which I had been visiting since early 2000's became my favorite until my last visit in March this year. Will it continue to be my favorite? Time will tell.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2452622]When Trump claims to take chloroquine for breakfast, french doctors except one decided chloroquine have no real efficiency to cure from virus but can kill many from heart attack, maybe could help US, when from ex communist Slovenia Melania Knaus seems much more clever than him, when a model can be more clever than most powerful country president. Reasons to worry about crazy. US should be far over 100 thousand deaths, even mostly Afro Americabns, before elections.[/QUOTE]According to real qualified doctors, not crazy, Chinese killer virus seem strong around 10 Celsius degrees, less under 5 or above 25, can explain some figures and fortunately for Africa, when south America and Brazil are falling in trouble now, when Autumn for them. Brazil is competing with US now.