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[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2586928]We have Innate immunity against all diseases. Younger people have strong innate immune system and old people tend to be weaker. One component is innate antibody which recognized disease pattern. A vaccine antibody is more specific and will inhibit innate antibody. Thus, destroy innate antibody against all future variants.
Immune escape bitches. Read up on evolution by natural selection, mate.[/QUOTE]I hope you are kidding.
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[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2586940]To illustrate the power of innate immunity.
There was a group of African Sex work who have unprotected sex with an average of 7 men a day in a HIV infested area. There was ton of excitement with a discovery that these ladies simply can not get HIV, they just can't. Even more puzzling was what happen later on. When these ladies clean up their life, got boyfriend or husband. Their cheating husband / boyfriend gave them HIV.
While a lot was learn from these sex workers, there was miss-opportunity;.
We don't fully know what component of the innate immune system that prevent them from getting HIV.
We don't know what is it about these specific ladies lifestyle while they was hooker that resulted in this strong innate immunity. Obviously, when they live a normal life, that part of innate immunity has clam down and they lost the protection.
Now, with what I have been doing this past year. I should be getting Covid, but no covd. I don't think the tinny amount of ivermectin by itself can actually prevent Covid. 1 MG ivermectin per day for 135 pound guy is nothing. I think it slow down the virus a little bit. Allowing my innate immune system to prevent infection. But that is my guess and self experimentation.[/QUOTE]I'm not replying to your bullshit about HIV because I have the utmost respect for the millions who have died or contracted the disease.
However, on your point about treating Covid, there was a rumour last year saying bleach can clean your lungs from covid. I would give it a try if I was you as it would also be almost as cheap as ivermectin. Let us know.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2587194]See Sirioja, Pistons is a bit smarter than you. Sirioja never brings any arguments, just makes random claims with zero backing. Pistons puts a link to an article (old by now) and then makes claims that were never made in that article and definitely forgets parts of the article that say the opposite than what Pistons claims.
For example the conclusion of the article above: "viruses cannot mutate if they don't replicate, and if you stop their replication by vaccinating widely and not giving the virus an open playing field to continue to respond to the pressures you put on it, you will not get mutations."[/QUOTE]I don't drink internet, I prefer to speak with journalists I know and they even say when they mistook for information's, like doctors mistook so many times while covid.
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OMG, this vaccine suck. It will reduce hospitalization and death in old people, but for how long?
At first I thought that it reduces transmission. By now, obvious, it prevent / reduce infection for around 5 months. Can we imagine a more perfect condition for immune escape? Once that happen, protection from hospitalization and death is gone.
I can see they will come up with another vaccine, yearly covid vaccine injection. We will end up with a vaccine arm race. But the fact that they engineer the vaccine to be so narrow (target spike protein), there is a risk for antigenic imprinting. A situation where antibody for the original vaccine is generated, not the new one. Thus, render all future covid vaccine worthless.
At best we can get away with a few / several yearly vaccine. At worst, the vaccine arm race is lost before it even started.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2587671]Just to clarify, you are saying that Gino02 is completely wrong?[/QUOTE]Go and read 1984.
The idea they project is to use the means of fascism in order to achieve liberal end goals. By way of using double speak as a communication tool. Which one it is? Right now it is fascism. What the result will lead to? We have no answer yet.
Just like they say the vaccines cure you. While in reality they make you sick. This is also double speak.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2587687]Wow, just wow. Anybody who takes a look at the facebook page of the author sees that she is a brainwashed Trump cult member. Why am I not surprised.[/QUOTE]Only loosers with micro penises discuss persons ahead of topic.
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Common sense is not so common any more.
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[QUOTE=RockyV;2587778]I'm not replying to your bullshit about HIV because I have the utmost respect for the millions who have died or contracted the disease.[/QUOTE]No BS. It was a long time ago but my PI was in frequent communication with those researchers. All of them think it is a component of innate immunity but they all fail to discover it.
[URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15577632/[/URL]
[URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8918278/[/URL]
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Israel is already giving out third doses.
[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2587817]OMG, this vaccine suck. It will reduce hospitalization and death in old people, but for how long?
At first I thought that it reduces transmission. By now, obvious, it prevent / reduce infection for around 5 months. Can we imagine a more perfect condition for immune escape? Once that happen, protection from hospitalization and death is gone.
I can see they will come up with another vaccine, yearly covid vaccine injection. We will end up with a vaccine arm race. But the fact that they engineer the vaccine to be so narrow (target spike protein), there is a risk for antigenic imprinting. A situation where antibody for the original vaccine is generated, not the new one. Thus, render all future covid vaccine worthless.
At best we can get away with a few / several yearly vaccine. At worst, the vaccine arm race is lost before it even started.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2587825]The idea they project is to use the means of fascism....[/QUOTE]Congratulations, you spell fascism correct now. See, you learned something.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2587830]Only loosers.[/QUOTE]LOL, looser "not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached." or "(of a garment) not fitting tightly or closely." What you meant to write is spelled differently. Try again, let's see if you learn how to spell again.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2587830]Only loosers with micro penises discuss persons ahead of topic.[/QUOTE]You seem to go back to your penis obsession, maybe you need to play less with yours. I hope out of this you will learn the difference between looser and loser. You are at that level of education.
Topic: Cheryl Pass doesn't bring any arguments, just says they in two sentences that they "reversed the Smith-Mundt protections". The rest of the article is mumbo jumbo. She posts Bill Gates is the devil memes, links to articles how the Kraken will be released and to articles how the Mypillow guy has definite proof the US election was stolen. She is a "self employed fine artists" who paints dogs portraits. Sometimes she paints geese or crows.
Author of the AP article Arijeta Lajka explains in the entire article why that claim is wrong. She has a Masters in Journalism from Columbia University and worked for the UN, CBS, BBC and AP.
Credibility matters.
Now I will help you with the proper usage of the noun "loser" in a sentence. Only a loser would believe a dog portrait painter.
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[QUOTE=DrPoon;2587858]Israel is already giving out third doses.[/QUOTE]Germany and UK are following. Never ending story. Wonder for how long brothels will stay open after Summer?
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[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2587817]OMG, this vaccine suck. It will reduce hospitalization and death in old people, but for how long?
At first I thought that it reduces transmission. By now, obvious, it prevent / reduce infection for around 5 months. Can we imagine a more perfect condition for immune escape? Once that happen, protection from hospitalization and death is gone.
I can see they will come up with another vaccine, yearly covid vaccine injection. We will end up with a vaccine arm race. But the fact that they engineer the vaccine to be so narrow (target spike protein), there is a risk for antigenic imprinting. A situation where antibody for the original vaccine is generated, not the new one. Thus, render all future covid vaccine worthless.
At best we can get away with a few / several yearly vaccine. At worst, the vaccine arm race is lost before it even started.[/QUOTE]And on top of that, the death rate among the elderly in USA has tripled since the vaccine rolled out. While pre vaccine rollout, the death numbers were unchanged.
Not to mention the millions of vaccine injured globally from each round of vaccines.
I hope piz, Bigb and Murs get infected 50 times this decade. Who wants to take bets on how many jabs they will outlast?
P.S.: saline injections disqualify them.
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[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2587733]American Heritage Dictionary on fascism:" A philosophy or system of government that is marked by stringent social and economic control, a strong centralized government usually headed by a dictator, and often a policy of belligerent nationalism" Fascisti: "members of the Italian political organization led by Benito Mussolini" Now, let's discuss the comparisons of the one party rule of Capitalism that parades around two factions pretending to represent the voters that put them there. Demagogue "a leader who obtains power by means of impassioned appeals to the emotions and prejudices of the populace".[/QUOTE]Both USA and China are well inside the fascism definition. More or less on various axises. But it is turning for the worse. In both countries. Like a race towards being the most fascist.