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Thank you pgapro.
I guess it is San Pedro de Macoris, I believe that Jose Rijo has a baseball school out there, if I remember correctly. I have seen a bit of Andres briefly then, en route to SDQ. I do know some spanish, mas o menos,and un peu francais, and do enjoy the challenge of dropping into a new place.
Is there a central area to Andres, or is it spread out?
I'll be in BC on Wednesday , and will probably use a day, or so, to see SD and any other places the honorable members can recommend.
I am a bit surprised that tourism is down , what with the favorable exchange rates. Unless they view that as a sign of instability. I was hoping for $50 but budgeting for $40. Still a great rate.
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The reason the exchange rate has dipped is because of an agreement between the FMI and DR called "Stand By". The agreement calls for DR to bring the ratio down to $40 per US dollar before the FMI gives the government any more money.
Andres is the towan right before Boca Chica.
One thing I do want to warn you guys about do not walk around with little kids. Last Friday (2-13-04) they almost killed two Austrians who had a little 6 year old kid in their vehicle.
Seems the locals thought they were trying to steal the child to sell the organs.
They burned their SUV and the police had to show up to save them from getting killed.
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Dotado's story is correct. There is an urban tale going around about white tourists stealing Domnican kids in cars, organ stealing , etc. It's really undertaken a life of its own.
Don't have any Dominican kids in your car. The poor Austrians were giving a Dominican friend's kid a ride.
San Pedro is a place you don't really want to be. Neither does a BC working girl, especially if they're there trying to catch a bus for example. Everyone knows she's a BC girl and probably has money. Means she'll surely be attacked and robbed, if not worse.
Peso/dollar rate was down to 38 to 1 on Sunday and Monday. The reason it went down/up in the first place is because the IMF gave the DR a big chunk of dough to begin with. Yes, there are restrictions if they are to get any more money though.
but the exciting news I have for the membership is the following:
Seems the Boca sexual menu is expanding!
At 5 am on Saturday night on Calle Duarte, there was a white tourist male, about 40 year old, wearing a long brown haired wig, a 5' o clock shadow, a pink tutu dress and brown boots to match casting amorous glances all around.
A Boca first (in my memory anyways)
"It" was joined at the table by a Dominican boy wearing a platinum blonde curly blonde wig which made for an interesting contrast against his dark skin. His dress also wasn't nearly as good. Just can't compete against whiteys with money.
Of course, that hot tall and lean black girl with the short cropped black hair, big earrings and toned almost muscular body some of you have probably sampled (the tallest by far among all the girls) was also there.
Too bad "her" name is Alexander. But he's been around for a while. Seems the new white competition was tolerated.
No word on pricing, unfortunately.
Perhaps the next BC traveler can bring us up to date.
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Hey all,
I just arrived in Sosua but here's the latest on Boca Chica. Never went to Cosmos, but checked out Zanzibar next door a few times. Nothing great. The chicas there will not leave you alone. I was having dinner on some patio bar on Duarte and 2 chicas came up to me while eating! Stayed at Calypso ($40/nt) which was good. Originally planned for El Candil but was full. El Candil looked better but Calypso had an adult channel on TV! My chica loved that. Anyone paying any exit fees for anything is nuts. The best is just head down to Duarte and chase the chicas in the plaza at the west end. Or rather, they will chase you. I might head back to BC at the end of my stay, but will probably stay in Santo Domingo until my return home to Canada on Feb 29. Anyone planning on BC, Sosua is better for las chicas ricas!
One more thing, BC is full of massage centres! Just walk north between Duarte and the Highway. I never checked any out but am tempted to return to BC just for that. Send me a PM if you plan to be in BC at end of Feb.
Flec
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[quote]I just arrived in Sosua but here's the latest on Boca Chica. Never went to Cosmos, but checked out Zanzibar next door a few times. Nothing great. The chicas there will not leave you alone. I was having dinner on some patio bar on Duarte and 2 chicas came up to me while eating! Stayed at Calypso ($40/nt) which was good. Originally planned for El Candil but was full. El Candil looked better but Calypso had an adult channel on TV![/quote]We had a two-day trip during our last visit in DR to Boca Chica. The same impressions as Flec99! Chicas are very ver aggressive.
Staying at El Candil at 2-bedrooms appartments. I found bed very small after really big bed in Europa in Sosua. There is also porno-channel on tv. And the pool in El Candil is very good.
Best regards,
Andy
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question for Flec99 (or others who may know)
How was the Calypso? Any problem at all with guests? Reasonably clean? What's the going rate/night? The location looks good (and the adult channel's a plus).
Calypso's listing at bocachicabeach-dot-net has phone # only (809-523-4666)... but do you have a fax # or email I can use (if your report's favorable) for reservations?
I like being close to beach and Duarte... and am a bit wary of Europa (have stayed there before, found it decent, but a bit pricey) in light of recent management change.
Look forward to your response(s). Will post trip report after my 3/7-11 visit. Thanks.
macmasher
P.S. - would also appreciate info from anyone who's stayed at Europa recently.
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To whom it may concern,
I would not recommend trying any of the massage places. Yes there are a ton of them that have popped up around town, but it's not worth it. They will cost you about 2000 pesos or more for full service, which is much more than should be paying for picking someone up on your own from Duarte. Remember guys, times are very tough down here right now for your average to below average Dominican. Yes, the one or two "lookers" will get whatever they are asking, and then some, but not from me. I have seen some of the girls sitting out in front of the massage houses from time to time, sure, there are some decent looking gals, but you can find the same level on your own for much less.
I live here, in a house, so I have no first hand knowledge of the hotel status, but I have always heard the Costalunga is about as good as you can find here in BC. It's no more than down the hill, cross two streets, and theres the beach. I guess, if thats a bit to walk, try somewhere on Duarte. I think the prices are as competitive at Costalunga as anywhere and probably a bit less. I have only heard negative reports from visitors on the Hotel Europa, but this is second hand of course. Problems like changing rooms mid-vacation because they rent THAT room out to someone pre-arranged. There is a new hotel that opened up recently on the land that ex-pat Ronny owned and had a bar, I think its called Hotel Don Emilio, but I have no contact info as of now. This is one of the few hotels that are "on" the beach.
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Just a couple things to add,
The peso to dollar exchange today was 47 to 1$. Just like I mentioned here about a week ago, the peso would go back to where it will be for the time being, about 50 to 1$. While this is the case, the best way to exchange here in BC is NOT by ATM's, not by checks, but by the old fashion green back. Bring dollars down here for the best exchange rates. Exchange just what you need to at the airport, you can get a better exchange at the cambios on the main street. It has become a big time business these days here in BC. It never really was until this year. If you are here and the cambios start dropping there prices drastically, use the ATM's, theres always a lag before they catch up to the drop, so it is not a bad idea to bring one down here to use if need be. Another thing, change your money in the early part of the day whenever possible. When the banks close, all the prices drop somewhat.
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Bonehead mistake.
I posted below asking a bunch of questions about Calypso hotel - hit the submit button, then realized I had it concused with Azzurra hotel. Duh!
Anyway, about Azzurra... anyone stayed there?
cleanliness? rates? AC? cable or satellite TV? If so, adult channel(s)?
Guest friendliness? Fax or email contact info?
Thanks in advance for feedback.
macmasher
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Yikes!
Just got back from BC and I am exhausted. 9 days of cervesas y chicas.
To the hotel questions:
The Azzurra is nice. New rooms, chica friendly (they must have an ID , which is always a good idea for our safety), quoted $35us per nite. They were sold out while I was there these past 9 days, but I think that was because of Independance Day (which is today).
Very clean, cable (no adult channel). They don't have an email , but the fax is 809-523-5000. It is rather noisy there at times, due to motocochos zipping up and down the street from Calle Duarte.
I stayed at Villa Marianna (formerly named Villa Don, which is the name people know down there) and it was nice. $30us p/n ,cable, Air, pool, guest friendly,very inexpensive restaurant and a bar, maybe three blocks from the beach on Juan Batista Vicini. If you mention it's near the park and the cathedral , most will be able to direct you there.
Also stayed at Casa Coco, which is up the hill on Dominguez. $33us p/n. No air (but wasn't necessary there for some reason), , pool, restaurant , no TV, very secure and guest friendly as well, and across the street from a bar/brothel..rather convenient.
Both of the above places are very servicable, if you tend to be out of the room a lot anyway. All of these places are very clean, BTW.
Chica report to come as soon as I can get my thoughts in order.
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Greetings from DC to the group. A brand new member here with a question about the DR.
Taking my first-ever trip to Boca Chica with a big group of 16 or 17 guys in mid-April and would love some insights on:
1) El Candil -- how is it? Read some posts that it's ok for mongers, but would love some further insights. Most of us have made reservations here, but if someone has a better suggestion, please share.
2) Haiti -- is any of that situation in Haiti affecting things in the DR, especially as related to Americans traveling to the island?
3) 16 guys will obviously take up a lot of the human "real estate" in Boca (hahahaha) -- are there enough chicas to go around to accommodate all the combined monger traffic? Might be a dumb question, I know. :-)
Thanks group! Appreciate all the great info I get on this Board. Keep it coming!
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Booty Licker,
Welcome to paradise! Look back a few pages on this site, one of the other members had a list of chica friendly hotels, and that was included, if I recall correctly. The rub is , if you are looking for a US "quality" (think Holiday Inn) hotel, chances are you can't get a local in your room.
I really can't guess as to the political scene re Haiti in mid-April ( but I would'nt worry too much about it ), but I can tell you that you 16 guys won't make a wave in the available pool of talent there. Go into the Cosmos disco..there are probably 75 girls,at least , looking for you.
One important thing: take your own condoms from America, and take more than you think you'll need. The quality, and hence, protection from the local condoms is bad at best. And, the beauty I had on my last night noticed that I had US condoms and gave me a bit of bonus loving for two of them. A decent trade,I thought.
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Stayed at the Candil recently, and it's definitely a good hotel. No problem with chicas whatsoever, as long as they have ID (the Spanish keyword is "cedula"). The chicas know it, too. The pool is great, too, and the restaurant is reasonably priced. For a minimum stay of five days, if I remember correctly, they will provide a free-of-charge airport pickup (double-check with Peter, the Finnish guy, or Giuseppe, the Italian. Both speak great English). It's located away some two blocks or so from Duarte, up the hill, at Juanico Garcia, at the corner with 20 de Diciembre, just across the street from a massage parlor (never tried it, though I once saw someone there pick up girls and bring them to the hotel). Also, a very short walk or drive to the Hamaca casino/disco. Very clean - no problem. Pretty quiet at night. Motoconchos to/from the main action on Duarte should be no more than 30 Pesos (February 2004). Cable TV in all the rooms (including one porn channel, though reception is sketchy at times). AC only in the apartments, fan in regular rooms and studios. Phone in the rooms, but you have to go through the front desk for outgoing calls. Once, I stayed in a one-bed room apartment, which had a safe in the room (according to their website, all rooms do, but personally, I don't remember with the studio any more). I suggest you double-check with Peter or Giuseppe, and what the charge might be (never used it). They can also arrange all the common excursions/side trips to Saona, Catalina, Los Haitises, trips into Santo Domingo with a private driver, etc., at reasonable rates, and are very helpful with any kind of questions you may have. Beds are a little bit small for my personal taste when a girl is staying overnight, but that would be the only (minor) quibble I have. Can't really compare it to other hotels in BC, because I've only stayed at Candil. Also, check out their website at www.comdata.nl/hotel-boca-chica-candil for updated information regarding prices, etc. Hope this helps, and happy mongering!
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just read through most of the bc thread, and i wanted to add a few observations, confirmations, updates, recommendations on bc, based on my own personal experience, of course, and as always in the spirit of possibly helping out some newcomers with some useful tips:
1. avoid the massage parlors. some ask for usd 100 for full service, and the girls would ask for tips, afterwards (since they only make about usd 25.00 of out the total). definitely not recommended, and don't trust any guy who promises you that it's so much better an experience than with the regular girls on duarte. it’s not, unless you like walking into a place and getting fondled by 8-10 girls at the same time, all of them using their high-pressure tactics to pick one of them. not my cup of tea. in other words: a rip-off.
2. during the daytime, you will see several girls hanging out at the park right down duarte from zanzi bar/cosmos. was told by several girls that i’ve gotten to know in zanzi bar that most of them are ****, some as young as 15, and that they are only sitting in the park because they can't legally parade down duarte, past the politur officers at the intersection with the colmado (which makes sense). be sure to check ids, and if they don't have any id, hands off. stay out of trouble, ok?
3. night time is all pros, no exceptions that i have come across. so if you are convinced you have come across that hidden gem that is the one glaring exception, use your brain. and then think real real hard again (i know, it’s tough sometimes with so much blood flowing down south). the ones you encounter during daytime only seem to be mostly semi-pros, a bit less hardened, but semi-pros nonetheless. this includes all the waitresses, shop attendants, pretty much everyone. my impression was that with current wages as they are in the dr, anyone working a regular job and doing tricks on the side part-time to supplement their income pretty soon comes to the conclusion that it would just make so much more sense to dump their low-paying job and do it full-time, anyway – so much more income potential, so much better a chance to find a rich foreign bf. still find it hard to distinguish between the real pros and the semis, at times – you’ll hear the same story about being a single mom (almost all true), medical bills (who knows?), sudden emergencies (i’ve met girls who had more emergencies in a week that i’ve had in a life-time), etc. from all of them. one good way for me to figure out who was a seasoned professional and who wasn’t was just to observe who was gambling at the slot machines all the time in the different places in bc. these girls have money, sometimes quite a bit, and they are not sending it to their kids or family, plain and simple, or very little of it. i can also confirm what’s been said about chicas in the hamaca casino – looking for major bucks from perceived millionaires, quite a chunk of money, and like to gamble. for these girls, it’s obviously a choice of life-style, way beyond mere necessity. keep in mind that if they accept the odds there, gambling on you might actually be a better proposition.
4. most of the girls don’t speak english, or very little. if they do speak it (or some italian, or german), chances are they didn’t pick it up in high school or college. much more likely they learned it through their "dealings" with foreigners, had or currently do have a foreign bf, or several of them, sending them money every month, or even lived in these countries for a while, married to some foreigner who took them away. guess why they are back.
5. unfortunately, i also have to confirm the numerous reports of con artists and thieves in this thread. i have been around quite a bit (in thailand, malaysia, indonesia, brazil, cuba, and venezuela, among other places), and i am very sorry to say that i have never come across a higher concentration of dishonest girls than in bc. it's either that or just an incredibly unlucky streak of money that simply disappears into thin air, cross-cultural misunderstandings as to why money jumps from one's pocket into somebody else's, and personal objects that just must have walked out of the room by themselves. if you're in the habit of leaving things or small sums around to test girl’s honesty, be mindful of what and how much you're willing to lose. if your room has a safe, use it, and make sure you know where the key is at all times. don't test these girls, and don’t give them any chance - the threshold for temptation may be a lot lower than you think. opportunity creates thieves, remember? don’t set yourself up for an unpleasant surprise.
6. one thing you might consider (i just figured this out myself now) is writing down the number of the id (cedula) of any girl you bring to your hotel. just as a security precaution, to let them know your cautious. you can latter check ids online at http://web.jce.do/consultas/ced2002.asp, complete with real names and photos, should something happen. might be a bit exaggerated for your personal taste, but might be a deterrent, too, and hey, we all wanna be safe, right?
7. skip cueva disco. nobody’s there, anyway, and the girls in front are the worst. just going to the bathroom can be a nightmare at times as girls would not leave you alone. just gross. as far as i am concerned, cosmos is the only club around worth spending any time in bc.
8. i am only going to mention drugs as a possible security issue. was offered some a few times on duarte (marijuana, cocaine) and by chicas. quite a number of girls use them, from what i heard, though i wouldn’t be confident enough to say the majority of them (the drugs of choice in rd still seem to be presidente and brugal). just be aware of the issue, because it is an issue. you might just think that she’s a hot-blooded latina with incredible mood swings (and she’s just so confused about her feelings for you, of course - experiencing real love for the first time). might be that if she smokes something and acts like a cocaine addict, it might just be… ok... let's see... right… crack. kicked one out of my room one time i was there. believe me, it’s real.
9. still, overall, bc appears to be pretty safe to me, as long as you take the usual precautions.
10. in case, talking about prices, a girl tells you "just give me as much as you want", don't take it. this almost certainly guarantees that regardless of how much you give, you will get a sob story afterwards, at best, and a vicious fight at worst. nail down prices beforehand all the time. won't make that mistake any more, either. do you research on current pricing here on this board, keeping in mind current exchange rates (which change a lot), and you won’t get fleeced. be firm – tourism is down, way down, and times are tough in the dr right now.
well, that’s all that i can think of right now. will post more if i get creative again, and possibly some pictures, too.
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got my thoughts together, so here's my trip report from 2/18-2/26. i'll try it in two parts.
arrive at sdq around 1430hrs , get my waiting car and speed (well careen is more accurate) to bc. throw my crap into my closet, change, get money, and off to playa vista. i had brought a picture of a girl who's name i didn't remember from my last trip, figuring i would have to use it to find her (she's one of the posted photos in the photo section). i get to the rear entrance to playa vista , and she is sitting right there at the curb. couldn't believe it! she sees me with a kiss and a big hello hug, and into the bar we go. to shorten this, after greeting some old friends, we get another girl that we have had a threesome with a trip before, and off to the room for bbbjs, cfss. this is my first hour in boca chica. great to be back.
later that nite, i pull a hottie out of cosmos , name not remembered, nice ass ,tits, straight hair, lighter skin. had a nice time , typical costs.
2nd day: visited with my friends at the bar during the day, cruised around town , hit the beach, etc. chilled for a few hours, and went back to duarte to cruise later that nite. after fending off a bunch of undesirables on the street , i head back to cosmos. i am there about an hour and i get grabbed by the arm, and it's the girl from the night before. we have a few drinks, and head off for fun. everything is going fine, and we're banging away , when she comes. i haven't yet, but she stops and says she's done!maybe i am misunderstanding that relationship here ( i thought i was paying for my nut), but she's insistent that she's finished. so i tell her "sorry, no money for that" and we go thru the usual noise about police etc etc. so i go down to the security guard who has her card, tell him my problem, and inform her that i'm keeping her card. that changed the mood pretty quickly. we boot her out. adios, puta. and she does manage to steal my sunglasses. rrrrrgh. more to come.