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Hawk
The capital is indeed very close to the airport and vry far from the action.
If you can change, I would recomend the Casa Dann Carlton (94 con 19) or the Dann Carlton (15 con 103). They are in a much safer area and possibly mopre interesting.
If you need more info; pm me
Take care
LatinTraveller
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Hotel Capital is QUITE nice and not in a bad area safetywise. There isn't anything nearby though. If you are using outcall services, who cares if it takes an extra 15 minutes for the girl to arrive? Taxis are cheap. The issue is more about restaurants, bars etc being far away. Just my 2 cents.
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Just got back from a week in Bogota. After 10 years of traveling to Colombia, I still believe Bogota is the best city for ladies of the night. The Lido is still great. Chuscas.com was the only honest web-based outcall service. I always stay at Charlies Place for my hotel. Try Bogota Beer Company, a microbrewery in Zona Rosa for hot babes hanging out.
Ron
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Hi all,
New to the forum. And learning so much, despite the fact that I have been to Bogota 8 times and spent over a year there.
I originally went down there to find a "nice" girl, but lo and behold discovered the "finer" establishments, mostly the clubs. I got pretty adept at them, but must admit I know nothing about the web outcall services, or the massage places or picking them up on the street, or any of that.
One thing I discovered amazed me vs the hookers here. Many are just part time and many many of them you could convert to your girlfriend in a week. In fact, a buddy of mine is marrying one of them! Down there they don't really "choose" this line of work, they simply turn to it out of desperation, because of not finding a job, because of having a kid, or because even if they found a job the wages are on average around only 300,000 pesos a month! I maintain that after meeting ten of them a person could find a great wife out of this endeavor. I realize most of us aren't looking for that, but just threw out the comment.
Now, to show my naivity, can I ask a few questions from you experts?
1) I see you all talking about the cost of incalls, outcalls, etc etc.. I see the hints you talk about about not buying them drinks and about how it is better to deal with them late at night or after the club closes, and on and on. But my question is: What if you find one you like and want to keep her around? Do you or can you just pay her for a week and have her on-call just for you? And how much for this option generally? I suspect you would want to do this personally with her and not thru whoever they might work for or through.
2) Is it better to pay her up-front in the room or afterwards?
3) Do most guys like in-call or out-call?
Thank you for your input on my 3 questions.
By the way, a little something I learned on my recent trip...again, maybe of no use to you, is: The girls seem to get paid 20,000 a nite in most of the clubs, just to be there. A little more if they dance on stage. They also make a percentage of the drinks they sell, usually 10%, but only on the individual drinks and not on the bottles. Many of the clubs REQUIRE them to stay til closing, but not all. And as I said, I know nothing about massage places or anything else. I go in and drink slow, since I'm not there to make the club rich on overpriced drinks.
I'll be down there in September if any of you want to be shown around.
Thank you very much.
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Capital and Sheraton 4 points in Bogota are next to each other, and own/run by the same owners.
Both are located in a nice residential area, and there is a shopping mall near-by.
But there is no bars/club/etc in the area, and Zona Norte is 14.000pesos/20 minutes taxi ride.
Be prepared that if you want to take a girl into your room, both hotels would want to regester the girl's ID at reception and charge 70.000 pesos for an extra person in the room.
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It was mentioned on this thread the average wage is 300000 P per month.
Question for the experienced members living in Colombia. Can I survive and/or possibly support a wife (GF) and 2 teenagers with a minimum monthly income of (USD 1450) 3.6-3.9 million pesos.
Can an American find a job with his english fluency as an advantage on the job market. My spanish is limited today but I am learning.
Thanks for any serious reply.
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As to your post, yes, it is possible to support a family on that amount, but it would be better to have more. The main expense is rent and rent runs all over the map in Bogota, depending on the area you want to live.
Knowing english is not necessarily a help. Getting jobs there is tough, especially with no spanish. Jobs with multi-nationals are highly coveted by the locals. Basically, as in this country, the only way to get a good job as a foreigner is to be able to offer a skill that can't be had locally.
Most Americans seem to gravitate toward teaching english.
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NYC,
$300k a month is not the average wage in Colombia. But, $360k a month is the MINIMUM wage allowed by the government to an employee. So the average earned, obviously would be more than $360k.
You can easily find a decent place to live for about $600k a month not including utilities and the like. I would say for less than a million you can do ok. The rest of your money can be for expandables.
Anyone else mongering in Bogota now?
Memin
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Hi guys.
Thanks very much for your response. It is CTG that's under consideration since she lives there. I'm aware extra income beyond the min. I already receive would be helpful.
Will check it out while I'm there 2 weeks from today.
Enjoy.
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Ok, I will agree that maybe the minimum wage there is 360,000 pesos, but the reason I said average is because SO MANY PEOPLE are making this wage, or no wage at all. A very high % of people there make this wage. It is an economy with a huge population of poor and a small middle class and an even smaller upper class. But you are right, the average is probably a bit higher.
And it all goes back to my statement I made before of why so many girls are attracted to this kind of work, especially the ones with kids to support.
I am still shocked that my best friend chose one of them as his fiance, but I wish him luck and my best!
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This is my first post and I hope you may find it helpful. I found a new website (www.adorenet.com) which is really good. Pictures are actually real. Most colombian web sites use fake pictures downloaded from the internet. I recommend Carol, very nice, sweet and friendly. Not in a rush. (PM for her mobile number) Avoid Katerin, Exactly the opposite.
Massage parlors: Abejitas is allways a good choice. They have two places. Ask for Erika in Av Suba No. 102-73.
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Anyone willing to venture beyond the Zona Rosa, will find that in El Centro you will find exactly the same girls and even better and younger talent.
Im talking about places like "Las Paisas" "El Castillo" and "La Piscina." Piscina was the top about a year ago, it's on a decline now, but the whole area is attracting better operated businesses, and safer too!
Still, I wouldn't recommend for a newbie as it can appear to be a little dangerous around this area. Don't get too drunk, don't act stupid and you'll be ok.
I'll be going to Pereira in a few days if anyone can give me some info I would appreciate.
Mamey
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Went to the Adorenet site, seemed kind of spendy.
I have read all the posts for Bogota, and I am surprised that you missed this club... it is called Juan Pablo's, but I think it also goes by the name of Zhivago's. In the north. Very friendly place. There is a take-out fee, but if you leave the girl can follow in a half hour or so and no fee is collected. It is at Cra 18, #93A
Look for a blonde, her name is Lucia, not her real name. Speaks perfect english, no lie. Say hi to her from William from Portland. If not interested in her, pay her a few thousand pesos to help you translate with another girl. If your spanish is weak and you want help.
Also, by the way, I have tons of Delta miles leftover from my business travels. If any of you want some. It takes 35,000 to get to Colombia, let me know and I'll make you a great deal. Since flying to Colombia can be very expensive from some cities in the U.S. I just don't need all the ones I got.
Bill
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Sorry guys but I do not have Jimena's fotos or pictures, sorry. Toby GRU has her email & phone number.
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Another way to monger there is to go into some of the so-called normal bars that cater to foreigners. Several in Zona Rosa. They may look like normal bars, but they are full of working girls, and not too hard to spot.