Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Lvr37]I have been to Phnom Penh for a few times.

Damage: USD100

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Hi there Lvr,

Was this a typo? You really meant $10, right?

I have heard the girls claim to be paid $50 and more and always thought the punter must be drunk or something.

Why would you pay so much for what you claim to be poor service?

I really am interested why someone who has been to Phnom Penh previously would still think it right to pay so much money.

Hawk

[QUOTE=Lord Smutty]Just a quick little update. Visited the following last night;

Bar 136; The bar was PUMPING !! Stacks of chicks. Stacks of guys and basically a great night ! Had a handjob at the bar from my special little friend.Definately a favourite now.

Home drunk as hell around....er.....not sure!

LS[/QUOTE]
Hi LS,

good to hear that you are having fun. After reading Lvr's piece I have ask how much you gave the poor little thing for the service at the bar, this is certainly not the normal service to be provided.

I don't think that is why the tissues are provided though.

I was going to ask where, at the bar, you were sat, but have decided that it is best not to know!!

Hawk

P.S. if that is what you use the tissues for may I ask what you did with the pea-nuts?

[QUOTE=Cowboy Brew]He is referring to Shanghai KTV, NOT Shanghai Bar. Shanghai KTV is a more upmarket KTV joints near Phnom Penh hotel, with rows of girls, mostly Vietnamese, to choose from. The girl will accompany you for drinks inside a KARAOKE ROOM and the establishment charge USD6 per girl for them to accompany you in the KTV room to drink and sing song the whole night. But you are still expected to tip the girl USD5 to USD10 when you leave without her AND if you are taking her back for overnight, it is USD50, standard market rate. Heineken is USD3 to 3. 5 per can and Johnnie Walker Black Label is USD35 excluding mixer, which is charged on per can basis. The girls can speak Mandarin and Cantonese as the clientele are mostly Malaysia, Singaporean although the occasional Cambodian, Japanese and Koreans and the girls are mostly Vietnamese precisely because of these reasons. Most Vietnamese girls have fair skin!

Similar type of KTV include CASA, Mega, 99.

In fact, these KTVs are considered mid-range in term of pricing of drinks, girls, rooms etc as there are KTVs that cater exclusively to rich Cambodians that charge room by the hour with even higher prices for drinks. Example, ROCK KTV, X2, X0.

From Asian's point of view, the quality of the girls there are of course, mostly better than girls that you can find in Walkabout, Martini, Cycree. Fill in the blanks. And other pick-up joints in the mostly Westerner scene where the standard market rate is USD15 to USD30, all inclusive.

I hope this clear things up.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the explanation,[b]Cowboy Brew[/b] . It was exactly the situation.

[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi there Lvr,

Was this a typo? You really meant $10, right?

I have heard the girls claim to be paid $50 and more and always thought the punter must be drunk or something.

Why would you pay so much for what you claim to be poor service?

I really am interested why someone who has been to Phnom Penh previously would still think it right to pay so much money.

Hawk[/QUOTE]Nanahawk,

That is highend KTV price 100 USD is for russian rare in PP , I know that is high but the guy can afford it more power to him , everything is going up here and $10 p4p is getting harder and harder to find .

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Blunderer]I too am a bit startled at the idea of anyone paying $50.
Was this a joke?[/QUOTE]
Maybe because of the USD depreciation?
Some days ago USD was called a worthless piece of paper.
I don't see it that extreme, but it's some truth or tendency in it.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=NanaHawk]Hi there Ancient One,

the Flamingo can be contacted here,

k[/QUOTE]
Thanks to everyone for the Flamingo address. I got booked in for three weeks in February. Looking forward to catching up on all I have been missing since last year.

Will spend a few weeks in LOS visiting some friends as well as a bit of mongering but expect PP to be a better venue.

THANX
AF

$50 is at least 3X what it was worth. The $$ is their defacto currency. Pay what you want - the rest of us will have to suffer later...

US$ 20 LT, US$10 ST. All of us need to stick to this. The girls are happy with this arrangement. Buckle up and have some fun in PP (the good times capital of the world). Will be over visiting again late feb/early march and am going to go downstairs right now and cross off another day on the count down calander. Can't wait to get there! Take care and I hope to bump into some of you for a beer or fifty when I get there. Have fun and be good(ish).

[QUOTE=Robarts]US$ 20 LT, US$10 ST. All of us need to stick to this. The girls are happy with this arrangement. Buckle up and have some fun in PP (the good times capital of the world). Will be over visiting again late feb/early march and am going to go downstairs right now and cross off another day on the count down calander. Can't wait to get there! Take care and I hope to bump into some of you for a beer or fifty when I get there. Have fun and be good(ish).[/QUOTE]Such comment and the rest that followed immediately after my post explaining the differences and the asian scene and the western scene seem to indicate that my explanation is either ignored or unappreciated. Please go back and read my post before commenting but remember the two scenes are different.

The girls in the KTV I have described will not even entertain you and negotiate if you want to go below usd50. They may be willing to go lower if they already knew you beforehand and you are a returned customer.

Please do bear in mind, this is not the usual scene where the westerners go in, sit on a stool on a bar, order a beer, look around, chat up the bargirls or freelancers and negotiate the price. The prices in that scene is still pretty much the same since 2000. Usd10 st, usd20 to 30 lt.

Shanghai bar is part of that scene.

Shanghai KTV is not! The whole modus operandi of the mid-range KTV in Cambodia have remain the same pretty much since they were opened. They have never been willing to go with customers at usd10 st. In fact, the customers tip the girls usd10 just for sitting with them, drinking, chatting, dancing in the KTV room and the tip is standard and non-negotiable. There are a few less popular outlets that will accept usd5 but rarely.

Let me ask all of you who blindly comment one simple questions? Have you guys ever been to one any of those KTV I have mentioned?

The two scenes are different. I am sure you all agree in most countries, there are different scenes of p2p with different level of pricing. The price of streetwalker is different from brothels and those from upmarket escorts anywhere in the world and. Some of you seem to assume the phnom penh is still a shithole like it was before in the early 90s and that everywhere is the same, one size fits all.

As to the comparison of the quality of girls in the western bar scene and the KTV scene, it is a matter of personal taste but ask any asians this side of the world, including Cambodians and the preference will be toward girls in the KTV regardless of whether they can afford or willing to pay that price. And as to variety, the mid-range ktvs definitely have more girls.

Go ahead, patronise a upmarket Cambodian KTV like x2 and the rock. No, the girls in there are definitely not happy with these so-called "arrangement". They will probably ask you to fuck off.

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Robarts,

You are kind of right about your price structure. If you shop only at the Martini's, Sharky's or anything western style bar, those are the prices. However, in my opinion, the girls there aren't very pretty compared to other places.

Cowboy,

Most of the guys on this board are westerners so they have a certain paradigm when it comes to mongering. For many of them, women are all the same so why pay a higher price for the same thing? Like you, I believe there are many levels of beauty which warrants a different price structure.

I have a story about pizza which relates to taste and perhpas women. When I was in college, my roommate was from NY who loved his pizza. He asked me where he could get decent pizza so I took him to my favorite pizza joint. Well, he wasn't impressed at all. That summer, I visited him in NY. We went drinking, girl hunting, and he took me to a 'real' pizza joint around his neighborhood. In my opinion, it was just like CA pizza. What is the point of this story? For most Cali boys, pizza is pizza while a New Yorker will tell you differently.

Pharmacies

I needed to buy some unusual medications, so I got a recommendation from a local friend and went to Pharmacie de la Gare, corner Moniving boulevard and Str 106. Very professional operation.

Second best I #50, Str 136, similarly professional.

There is a cluster of pharmacies around Str 51 and Str 136, all seem to have a good range of stock.

None of the above stocked Vardenafil, the generic for Levitra.

[QUOTE=Cowa Banga]Cowboy,

For most Cali boys, pizza is pizza while a New Yorker will tell you differently.[/QUOTE]

CB

While I agree that pizza is pizza I can't agree that pussy is pussy. There is definitely good, better and best. And on rare occasions I must admit there is bad.:-)

Ancientsan,

I agree when it comes to trim. There is OK, good, and great trim hence the price structure. However, there is a shit of load of guys who go to Pattaya who will tell you differently. In my view, if wasn't for the tourists, ugly Thai women wouldn't get laid.

Hey Guys if anybody is in PP at the moment you have got to try this girl out you will find her in Cyrcee her names Mailin mid 20s good body quite pretty face.

But wow I went upstairs with her and man she was a right horny and dirty little ***** she started off with a BBBJ, then ar I was so horny I thought I would come their and then, so I told her I had enough pleasure now it was her turn I ddp her It was amazing an experience I will never forget, infact I am planning my next trip very soon just to see her.

So go on guys go into le cyrcee and give her a right old rodgering from me, This girl just loves sex.

Let me know what you think.