Erik.
Sorry, I heard about the place, but did not get a chance to go. The nickname is "150" since this is the going rate for ST? Are we talking about the same place?
OAH
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Erik.
Sorry, I heard about the place, but did not get a chance to go. The nickname is "150" since this is the going rate for ST? Are we talking about the same place?
OAH
According to various websites, the address for the Water Hotel is
No.53-57 Tai Sheng Nan [South] Road
Telephone # +86-28-82988888
C-trip says:
"The Water Hotel (Wote jiudian) is located in the heart of the city's business and finance district. It is about 30 minutes drive to the airport and 10 minutes to the railway station"
"For recreation, the hotel has a sauna center"
Thanks, OAH.
Going to Sichuan soon (I hope).
H.
Reporting on Chengdu.
Shawanlu : Several red lit barbershops, but seems you can only get HJ in there. Cute young girls, but not willing to do anything else than HJ.
Alley near Jianzhong hotel : Thanks to OldAsianHand, I have discovered this great place. Half a douzen not red lit barbershops which offer full service. Selection is OK. They all have (dirty)private rooms upstairs or nearby. Difficult to negociate FS for under 250 Y. BJ is posible but you often need to insist kindly but firmly. Also, the girls don't leave the premisses easily. I managed to have a girl come to my hotel at night, but only after she has finished work, because she had given me her mobile phone number the first time and would trust me.
All in all, not as sexy and open an atmosphere as in Chongqing, but definitly the best place in Chengdu at the moment, as far as I know.
Huanglongxi : an old traditional village about 50 km south Chengdu. Busses direct (1 hour 15 mn trip) or indirect (2 hours trip), depending from which bus station you take it. Actually, the place is better for a day out in a charming old chinese village than for sex. Cheap and clean room for less thatn 50 Y. This is not a ***** village as you hear sometime. Not quite the Svai Pak I was described. It is indeed very easy to have a girl in your room at night and I visited a place to drink tea by the river, actually a brothel with ST room, but did not see any beauty. Could have had ST for 150. However, I was there in the afternoon. Maybe at night selection is better.
End of report.
Chengdu Report:
I fund this hotel call "New City Hotel" near my office got a KTV on 2nd FL...their got girls in the KTV will go with you to your room.I went there a few time they have about 10 to 15 girls there you can pick from and it work like this. If you just have the girl to sit with you to drink and sing with you, you have to tip the girl 100rmb. If you want to take the to your room for FS it's 300rmb for ST 500rmb for LT and beer is about 15rmb each but they usually ask you to buy at least a six pack at a time.
Reporting from Chengdu, views that this town are dead are grossly exagerated. First, the Sichuan girls are an attractive lot. Often short and with nice bodies. Accessibility is easy if you follow the WSG and your instincts.
I walked looking for the Holiday Inn and found a street with 7 barbershops. The first one quickly turned into a 300 RMB GFE negotiated with pointing to the Y. Enthusiastic FS.
Went to Water Hotel. Lots of negotiation, but the girl was first class and beautiful. 700RMB for once. Will work for 500 next time.
Add another Barbershop (bad for 300 -- tried the I don't have a condom trick.
Next to the Sheraton I found a bar on the side street (the other side of the hotel -- opposite the stadium). Greta looking 21 year olds. Chose a beautiful full chested girl and took her home for the last 8 hours. Felt inspired and gave her 1000. All night could be negotiated to 600.
So if it is dead, I don't think I could score with 4 chicks in about 3 hours.
Great place!
ChuckPinoy,
We are not competing in the same category. You must be an expat with comfortable salary. I am a tourist. That is why I still prefer Chongqing over Chengdu. There, there is very good selection of Sichuanese (the best girls in all China) for 200 Y in your hotel including BJ.
In Chengdu, I agree with someone who told here earlier that Jiulong department store, near Tianfu square, should be an excellent place for hunt. If you like the sensation of these hundred of girls shopping cloths on several levels, you must go there. It reminded me of a big store in Shibuya, Tokyo, with hundred or even thousands of trendy young girls shopping alone or in small groups.
My trip was a great one since I only had a small window that business would allow, Monday through Sunday. The UA deal fit perfectly. Since I’m on the subject of timelines I will add that Sunday in Chengdu is totally different comparing with my Midwest city. Things are not closed and girls work too. They work seven days a week and Sunday is definitely a day for making more money for most of the city. (God, I love those Chinese.) I would not recommend Chengdu as a quickie because it’s a big city, it is not easy getting around just a few days, and there is lots of tourist type structure. It is definitely a local friend could show you the mongering paradise ( or you understand some Chinese). People love to help you out when they find out they are happy to dealing with a foreigner tourist (some of them do know a little English).
At the Chengdu International airport(a tiny one), jumped in the first taxi and off we went. I asked how much. He said RMB100. I told him no way RMB 60 and he was happy. I did exchange some money and I hate starting my trips off haggling with a fucking taxi driver. The airport is out in the fields about 15-20 minutes away. Its pretty much flat farm land until you get into the city. Did I feel scared, not really. I gauge things more now not on what I read or hear from the news or the government but more of how I see the locals react. The night was cool and the air is clean and fresh. The city had your average mid-large size feel to it. As soon as you get into town you are inundated with taxis, cars, motorcycles, and bikes(millions of them) flying around like rats. Chengdu has lots of construction sites which cause some air quality problem. After a quick fifteen-minute drive we pulled up to the hotel.
I stayed at Holiday Inn which is fucking expensive for Chinese standard. It is a good 5 star hotel, manicured entrance way with bell boys waiting out front, marble floors, and tastefully decorated interior. The ladies that worked there were beautiful, spoke minimal English, and were nice as hell. They had the best website out of the ones recommended. There is a sauna/message place at the basement which cost you RMB250 for a message and extra RMB400 for full service. I don’t recommend this place for veterans because you could find same quality service for less than half that price at any barbershop. For those new in mongering, this is a really nice kick area.
I jumped into a taxi my first night and instructed him to take me somewhere I could have “fun”. He said he knew just the place and took me to a “massage parlor” about 40 minutes from my hotel. It is definitely an upscale place but pretty affordable place. After pulling up from the street, you will see a large gate. My taxi honked his horn and a guy came out to open the gate. I was subsequently let in to a fairly nice looking house and a “mama-san” type directed me to a little waiting area and gave me a menu to browse. There must have been at least 10 different types of massages described ranging in price from RMB100 and up. A standard, full-service, hour-long massage with a chick of your choice was RMB250. As I was checking out the menu, I look through the waiting room window(kind of like a window shopping at mall), and there were about 10 chicks sitting there. The girls ranged from 4 to solid 8’s on my subjective rating scale....
I have a dentist in Chengdu that is very good. A root canal with a three-tooth bridge and another epoxy filling were done for a total of five hundred dollars. Here it would have cost $3500.00 minimum. I just had a bridge reglued and a temp filling here it was one hundred fifty roughly. A friend had dental work done in this clinic too. He was told would cost $4000 in States I think it cost him $450 here. A crown is about $75 I think. If a person does not have dental insurance it could be worth a trip to this dental clinic. If you want learn more, PM me. I¡¯m happy to help.
I had a Sichuan girl in Shanghai recently at a massage parlor and her rack was rock hard firm! B cup size. Do you think they could be fake or could it be a lot of muscle underneath? She was really thin and her breasts looked VERY nice. One of the nicest breasts I've seen in China.
Some of the postings almost make me want to figure out how to do a quick side trip to Chongqing while in Chengdu, but thanks to all of those who posted more positive reports with some details. I promise to do the same after my visit.
I just got back from ChongQing and must say that although I have very good experiences with ChengDu girls that CQ girls are fantastic.
And I agree with John Siron, I have seen the best breasts in China from Sichuan girls.
Just a tip for looking for freebies in CQ, Newcastle bar, just 200m from the Harbour Inn in Jie Fang Bei, upstairs just off the street. But be fit, a lot of those girls look like thare want satisfaction, not cash.
I just came back from Chengdu. Stayed in Water Hotel and went to Suana once. The girls there were not as good as I thought and the pricing was about RMB700 for full service. BBJ+HJ+FS. I didn't take it because I saw 5 to 7 old and ugly ladies waiting in the room.
I then went to some KTVs. Girls there were pretty and asked for RMB800 for FS and RMB1200 for whole night.
The technique I used to get laid by about 15 women my last 2 months in China (FOR FREE)
Go to the very north end of Di Xia Shang Cheng. (The Underground shopping center.) There is an exit right infront of the newly built Panda Mall. It's on the panda mall side of the street. Go there between 4:30 and 6. That's when most of the women get out of work. Stand around looking dumb. If you know Chinese use it, but it's not necessary. Uneducated hot women trickle out of there on their way to their low income apartments just north there. JUST go home with them. Don't mention sex, that's just happens if you're charming. If you're really horny (and don't mind paying) just go down underground, this part of the underground shopping center is where you shop for pussy. There are a lot of Kareoke rooms. Directly down this enterance. And also down the enterance pictured. It's expensive (about the typical prices you payers usually quote) but guaranteed sex.
the pic on the right is of a massage parlor on Ma Jia Hua Yuan.. (I'm posting it for those of you who have never been to china and expect these little dumps i talk about to be elegant.. they're not). I've described this strip in previous reports, The quality isn't very good, and usually they don't have sex the first time you go there unless you get out a lot of money.
After years of lurking I'm finally putting in my first post. Having lived in Chengdu for over a year, I've had quite a mix of experiences. Reporting on everything would be rather excessive so I'll try to summarize.
Chapter 1: The Discos. In 2002, had a good winning streak at Kakadu (found freebie all-nighters 3 times in a row) but then my luck turned bad and I couldn't find anything. Eventually found two more gals who became semi-regular freebies. In 2004, found mostly for-money deals at Top One, 200 or 300 rmb for ST or LT (all-nighter). Also found a freebie all-nighter at Top One. None of the above spoke English so my Chinese improved fast. Phone numbers are very easy to get, but often lead nowhere. Had many bizarre experiences, like the girl who invited me to sleep with her, then finding out that "sleep" really means "sleep". Some friends of mine prefer Age of Red but I've never found anything there. Different strokes for different folks.
Chapter 2: The Girlfriend. One of my 3 scores at Kakadu became more or less my girlfriend. It was one of those dramatic "laowai falls in love with a xiaojie" stories. I could write a book about it, including episodes about secretly folllowing her, meeting her parents, suicide interventions, taking pictures together in the park, finding condoms in her trash, you name it. The short story is that she was very charming but I was bothered by her constant lying, trying to hide her life as a KTV girl from me, and trying to manipulate me into a more serious relationship than I want. We fought a lot and broke up, later becoming friends, but I need to keep some distance so as not to get trapped.
Chapter 3: The BBSs: ST FS is readily available for 150 or 200 rmb, if you know where to go. (If they insist on 200, try to negotiate with whomever seems to be in charge that next time should be 150. Don't go over 200.) The small side street just south of the Jian Zhong hotel (as mentioned on this board) is good, especially the shop with a green and white barber pole, next to a DVD shop. I also found a nice place near Chunxi Lu, not easy to describe how to get there. The girls there are from Chongqing I believe, sort of the girl-next-door types, not slutty-looking, maybe rating 6 or 7. I like them because they're nice people. Note that, unlike western mongering havens like Amsterdam, girls in many of these shops are picky, they only do the guys they like, and speaking some Chinese seems to be essential. FYI, the vast majority of BBSs don't seem to be set up for FS, having no private rooms, but who knows, they may have private rooms nearby. When exploring, try to find BBSs with private rooms, or just get a low-end 50 rmb massage and then during the massage be nice to the girl and then bring up the topic of extras, or at least wait until you're in a room alone with a girl before you bring up this topic. I have no info on BJs since I tend not to do that.
Chapter 4: The KTVs: Didn't explore this much as it seems relatively expensive and more suited for a group, not a lone mongerer. I did make friends with a manager in one KTV on Kehua Bei Lu (the one marked "Disco") and he hooked me up with a gal for ST who I brought home, and she was a really bad lay for 800 rmb. Went back a couple days later and had the exact same experience with another gal, so, no more KTV girls for me. If you want to blow lots of cash, the KTV at MGM is the top of the line. I went once with a friend for a line-up, then didn't choose any girl and we left, none of the girls having given me a good feeling (but I only saw them briefly).
Chapter 5: The Saunas: "Ou shi" ("european style") seems to be the code word for massage with HJ. If you ask them up front what it is, they'll just say it's an oil massage. This can run you 300 rmb or so for 90 minutes. If you're into HJ, saunas offer a nice alternative to BBSs if you like a nice environment. If you ask for Chinese-style, Thai-style, or anything with an oriental name, chances are it's just legit massage, but this can vary. I know one sauna with FS, and I never found out until I had been there many times and eventually made friends with a Chinese guy who is a regular there. Without that connection, they seem to make it difficult to find out it's available. Basically, on top of the 50 rmb or so sauna fee, you need to pay about 150 for a hotel style room and 400 to the girl, totaling 600 for ST. While the environment was great, the lay was average, so I didn't go back and do that again. I'm not sure whether to give the name of the place because they seem to want to be discreet. Another sauna I found offers two massage options, one with HJ, and another where the women gets naked and rubs you all over with her body, or so I understand. I didn't try the latter option because I think she was giving me a bogus price, she quoted me some number over 300 rmb and I suspect it's less. I should go back there with a Chinese friend. This sauna is a smaller one and I don't remember the name. The larger ones are HaiLan, XinTianDi, FuLiGong, and Camp David. The saunas in the major hotels probably offer FS but at a hefty price.
Chapter 6: The Bars: Carol's and Shamrock are the top hangouts for laowais and girls seeking laowais. I avoid those places unless friends want to go. They tend not to be xiaojies, more like girls who want to "catch" a foreigner. I'm not into those games. There's an interesting bar called One Way Club near the Carrefour on Babao Jie. The patrons are usually just Chinese, mainly mid-20's on up, an older and classier crowd than the discos. The reputation is that there's a lot of married Chinese looking for lovers or one night stands. You might find some same-night action, or maybe get some phone numbers that lead to next-day action or something. Some friends of mine have had some luck finding freebies, mostly via getting phone numbers, at Empty Bottle, which seems to be packed every night, mostly Chinese clientele, and many are open to chatting casually with foreigners. Personally, I don't find freebies as often, I'm not sure why, but I think you can find a lot of opportunity if you go down the looks scale or up the age scale a bit. I've found that young, good-looking girls tend to expect to be taken care of in some way, e.g., taking them shopping. Also, if you're looking for bars with xiaojies, the high-end would be the Rainbow Crown nightclub adjacent to the Crowne Plaza (3-8-1.2 as I recall, meaning 300 rmb for a gal to sit with you, 800 for ST, 1200 for all night; the sit-with-you fee should be waived if you take her out for ST or LT), and you can find cheaper (e.g., 2-5-8) at some smaller hotels, e.g., the bar in Chongqing Cygnet hotel. I never tried it but I know because my girlfriend worked those places.
Chapter 7: The Streets: I've never found SWs in Chengdu. I did approach a woman on the street who I had seen in a legit massage place (I waited for her outside after my massage was done). She turned out to be married but was open to having a lover. After being with her a few times, she said I must not see other women, so that was the end of that. She did also ask me if I can introduce a friend of hers (another married woman) to any of my friends, so I did. Chengdu seems to have a reputation for married people rampantly having lovers, so I jokingly call it "the city of swingers with secrecy". But it seems like you have to be married in order to join the club.
Epilogue. I was once told, "everyone finds a different China". This seems to be especially true in Chengdu, different foreigners have widely different experiences. A lot seems to have to do with knowing the right people and getting introduced, or speaking Chinese. Unlike Shanghai and many western cities, Chengdu is just not set up to cater to lone travelers who are complete strangers and don't speak the language. On top of that, there is a lot of ambiguity in the culture, many Chinese will tell you one thing (like "married people rarely have lovers") when the opposite may actually be true. Many of them want to put a positive public face on their culture, or want to make generalizations that fit their own views (e.g., one saying most married Chinese are happily married, and another saying most are unhappy). I also get the impression that China's closure to foreigners decades ago is still in the mindset, there may be situations where being a foreigner closes doors. In some ways, it seems like the Chinese, or the Han ethnic group, or the people of a given city, are like a big family, and outsiders are treated politely but differently. The only solution I know is to speak some Chinese, make friends with some locals who know where to go, and be respectful toward the people you encounter. I do think there's a strong emphasis on being discreet, so westerners who blow into town looking for the red light district may be disappointed. There are some pearls to be found, and I have had some concern than making their business more "public", such as via a forum like this, might be offensive to them and result in them going further underground, or becoming more cold and commercial like in the west. Paradise lost? Only time will tell. In any case, good luck and happy mongering. (I will also post on the Shanghai board, see you there.)
Night Cat,
That was such an excellent report! Thank you for posting it for us! Welcome to the land of the contributing non-lurkers. If only half of the new "regular members" contributed information like that report, this would be a completely different forum. Unfortunately, too many just continue to lurk while mindlessly typing "reports" which contribute nothing on wasted bandwidth.
I have lived here long enough to know that China's most beautiful women and those that are the greatest in bed come from Sichuan and Chongqing Province. If you're a dedicated monger, it really doesn't take very long to figure that out.
Just for fun last night when I was dining with my colleagues, I turned the conversation to "which China province has the most beautiful women". This was a table of all professional Chinese men, and I just wanted to hear what they would say. They were in universal agreement: Sichuan. When I mentioned Chongqing they all agreed, "yes, yes, also Chongqing". They gave the explanation I have heard from many other people: the large collection of troups in these areas during the revolution.
I have wanted to take a leisurely monger expedition up there for the longest time. My current plan is to come up for a couple weeks in August, when Guangzhou gets unbearably hot and those mountains starting looking pretty cool. I hope you're still around there in a couple of months when I arrive. Thanks again! Keep up the good work!
Cronin