What's the problem of looking for pussies while traveling?
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What's the problem of looking for pussies while traveling?
Why is this site for?
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The problem as you have put it so well is that we stick out like sore thumbs in the local mongering areas. A Chinese guy can walk through unnoticed, however, it is very obvious why we are there especially when the visitor numbers go up. And, many traditional Chinese punters don't like us doing the girls anyway. I have seen many areas get shut because the locals complain.
Just my POV.
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I agree with you. Western Foreigners stick out like sore thumbs. They will get noticed walking with a working girl, into a BBS, a sauna or into a area known for prostitution. If you look more Asian, like Korean or Japanese, it would not matter as much because they blend in more.
If the local people in the area noticed more Western foreigners because of prostitution and complain, definitely, LE will shut a place down. There many examples of places that are gone or a shadow of itself.
I am recently out of a relatively serious relationship with an overseas Chinese girl, and in that time I seem to have lost my edge. So it’s taken me a while to ramp back up to my old methods and ways. I’m here to report that the old ways still work just fine for me.
This is freebie stuff, but requires some dating and time spent communicating. It’s easier to pay a girl – and less dramatic because she will LEAVE – but there are rewards to be had in this method.
The classifieds websites are always hit and miss, and CL is a nightmare of falsehood. Long ago I had a few nights of wallet-draining disappointment because I believed that I could find the diamond in the rough like Castl Smith. Instead, I discovered the joys of enjoyshanghai. English speakers who know the score and realize that sex is part of the package with us Western guys.
I stay away from the ‘women seeking men’ column – instead, I focus on ‘language exchange’ and ‘farewell.’ ‘Farewell’ is more drama laden, often girls fed up with guys like us, but a little sympathetic sweet talk and it is off and running. “Language exchange” connected me with a butter-face from Inner Mongolia with a body that just does not quit. It took a few chats on MSN and listening to “I don’t want ONS” but within a week she was on my sofa begging me “do that again… ” She is leaving Shanghai soon, and she is sad about this hard town – she could use some comfort, guys… PM me if you have some clever ideas of how you can explain that you have her MSN info but are just now chatting with her…
The best was from an ad I placed, though. I just wrote out this romantic, vaguely pornographic fantasy from a chick’s POV (they all want to be the hens on Sex and the City), and the mail just flooded in. Cybersex seemed to be the order of the day, and NSA was offered, but it seemed a little weird. I want to share with you about the one I did wind up with.
She responded on the website in kind, answering my ad with thoughts of her own. Eventually we began chatting on the phone, and I learned she is 22, from South China, a virgin (!!) and ‘falling for me.’ She wanted to wait until we met to see one another, no photo exchange, and the talks got serious quick. I don’t need that 1-2 drama punch, so I let her go. A few days later I was contacted by a 26 year old cynic who sent me a cute photo, described that an American guy had fucked her and run, so she did not trust anyone. She asked me about who I’d met on there, and I was honest (to a point) about the 22 year old’s drama. Miss 26 asked to meet me on New Year’s Eve, but refused to give me her phone number. Eventually I put it together – THEY WERE THE SAME GIRL.
Look, if a girl is going to adopt a new identity for another try with me, she is crazy. I am not that special. But some of you may know – crazy sex is awesome sex, so I chose to risk it.
She fell all over herself apologizing for the lie. She was as she first said, a virgin, from South of China, and not 22 – 21! She will turn 22 next week. She wanted me to be the first, and she insisted that she knew I could not offer her assurances of permanence.
She was cute, but scorching. Tight little body, perfectly proportioned spinner with milky skin and freckles. She demanded a kiss right away, and she was a LOUSY kisser – for about 5 minutes. Seems she learns quickly.
After we met my pals at the club, we kissed at midnight and went home. She was terrified but tried hard. Amazing body, nice handfuls of breast, little bubble ass (which is surprising among Chinese girls), and really close to being a white tiger. Boy, does she take instruction well. I had to wash the sheets because, yes, she was a virgin, but after the first couple times there was no blood. The best part was watching the light bulb go off behind her eyes when she realized SHE LIKED IT. She wanted to try everything, like a kid on Christmas morning, and I rediscovered the joy of introducing a girl to sex. She even showed interest in anal, but I’d penetrated enough difficult barriers for one night – I’ll save that.
Six times. In one night. I felt like a rock star. (For those of you that know me, of COURSE I used my own product – I had to – and I washed it down with Gatorade). Each time after we finished, she demanded “again, again” – I felt like a piece of meat!
Next weekend is her birthday and we’ll explore new areas. Yes, I see the drama coming – she considers me her boyfriend and is throwing around the ‘L’ word. However, the sex is so worth it and I am preparing for the eventual dramatic finale.
I’ll share my Mongol gal with senior contributing members if you can provide a plausible explanation you can give her for how you got her contact info. She’s a good girl and needs comfort and the ego boost of being attractive to a guy, but do not hurt her. She’ll be leaving Shanghai soon to return to Inner M, so act now.
The little Jinx spinner is all mines – sorry guys.
[QUOTE=Catalonian]What's the problem of looking for pussies while traveling?
Why is this site for?[/QUOTE]
Simple answer - nothing at all. That's why we're here. Fact of the matter is, China is a different market and if you read back through a few years of postings you will know Shanghai is changing dramatically and at a rapid rate, similar to Beijing last year during the Olympics.
We are watching out for our interests here a bit and keeping the real stuff between true contributors and away from lurkers simply for survival.
We all hope it will return to it's former glory after the Expo, but we're also not holding our breath.
There is always gonna be P4P here, but it's gonna become super covert.
It's not really even been a sex tourism place, as WGS mentioned, and never will be. It's a more challenging environment to monger in, but in many ways, that is what makes it all the more satisfying.
Just my liang kuai.
Contex mentioned about this place the other day, I'm going to make a trip out there this week to see what it's like. The address is actually Shenzhu Lu 688, not Xinzhu Lu, 莘朱路688号. They also have a website .sh868. not sure i am allowed to mention it but these words will give you the idea.
Get back to you next week with a report.
Hello all,
I have been really quiet recently first of all since I think only few new reports can really add something (I tend to go to G18 and Sacrosa) and second I do not want to draw much attention to the places I go to. Still, the current discussion keeps me wondering for a solution: On the one hand we do not want to give the the LE any reason to shut down our place (and be frank, with the number of reports about G18 that place would be next), on the other for people like me who come back every 6-8 weeks for a one-week stay it is hard without any intelligence (e.g. is a place open and "safe").
Any idea how to solve this?
For my past experience, I have been in town last time in early December and G18 was of course open. I hesisted the first days to go there but finally could not resist. Service at 1 after midnight was ok and since I liked the girl I thought a second visit (and time with her) would improve the experience. When I got there around midnight, however, the place seemed to be closed. All lights out except for the elevator, no guy down there. I curiously walked inside and looked around. The camera did not seem to work and the elevator neither so finally I decided to leave, wondering what was going on.
Just as I went back to the street I heared voices and saw two chinese guys being let out by an employee. I asked that dude if the place was closed but instead he indicated me to follow him. We walked through a door in the rear wall of the downstairs lobby and up the stairs which were only lit by his flashlight (btw they all looked really rubbish). We ended up in the lobby and I was treated normally from there on (had to wait for my girl for 20mins but service again was OK)... pretty strange!
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[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]I she demanded “again, again” – I felt like a piece of meat!
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You have to be a man to know how good that feels. Great report with good advice. We have been talking about the merits and disadvantages of saying your married or with girlfriend just wondered what the situation is with her. I had a 21 year old talk to me this weekend on QQ wondered if its worth the trouble, I suppose its like power ball your never going to win but somebody gets the jackpot.
[QUOTE=Jamie5063]... wondered if its worth the trouble, I suppose its like power ball your never going to win but somebody gets the jackpot.[/QUOTE]
Well, there is trouble, a little drama. She says "I love you" and will not rest until I answer in kind. When I say it's too soon for us to be exchanging those words, she says not to think too much and that she is a big girl.
Remember, you have to subtract 10 years from the actual age to get the rough equivalent of the emotional age in this country.
Oh, hell, though - she has started sending me explicit text messages now. She wants to be 'my little ****.' Well, let the drama come - for now I will just enjoy being Superman.
Just a small word of caution about 868. Went there a few days ago and seems it's under new management. More "nightclubbish" with blaring Chinese disco. Still quite empty save for the girls that work there.
The annoying thing is there was a local youngish guy with an 80's peroxide victim hairstyle who introduced himself to my friend and I as the manager of the joint. When a couple of girls came to talk to us he tried pushing us to go to a private room with the ladies for an additional 200. I tried to find out what kind of service they would provide for the price but he didn't really do a good job of selling the idea. "just talk make friend" is not worth it. All in all, I found the guy very irritating and intrusive, and the girls didn't really seem thrilled by his presence as he was taking a "hands on" approach asking them to run around pretending to have a good time.
I haven't given up on the place and would love to pay another visit. If nothing, there are plenty of BBS's and half-saunas in the area so the trip would be worthwhile.
Nice post Ira about the online pursuits. I've had some interesting experiences with them over the years, ranging from excellent freebies to downright nutcases. A couple of years ago I had one I met on Skype. Very cute girl from Anhui with virtually no English and her idea was for us to do language exchange. One Saturday morning, out of the blue she called me and asked if I wanted to meet. Within 2 hours of meeting, after a brief lunch, SHE, not me, suggested we go to my pace and "watch film". Next thing I know she's apologizing for her "aunty" visiting and without prompting proceeds to give me a nice BJ. I saw her a couple more times and we always had loads of fun, until one day she asked me if she could live in my apartment for two months, and in return she would "help me". I had to gently explain it's out of the question and it seemed okay until a three or four day session of "shock and awe" persistent texting and calling at all hours. Eventually, she calmed down and I'm guessing she found another sucker. Moral of the story. Crazy sex from crazy girls is fun in a rodeo/drunken poker type of way. Just know when to get off.
I find Skype tends to be a nice way of finding freebie's, especially because Chinese women lose their inhibitions more easily when they're online. Meaningful conversation and communication is a tad bit ambitious, but you'd be surprised how things change once you've made small talk at random times over an extended period. Sometimes they land in your lap, so to speak, and I personally trust webcams much more than pics. Also, it's quite convenient for finding bored housewives, professional ladies with little time and energy for bars, or out of towners.
Happy hunting and keep the online adventure tales coming
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With the directions in hand from Nightwing88 a few pages below this posting I went and visited Heting Elite on SiPing Lu 777
I would like to add a few pointers to his report (thanks again Nightwing) which might help clarify some things for those who will visit the place for the first time, because, the operation is just a tad different then you're used to:
1. If you take the subway, take the number 8 line and get off at SiPing Road. Take the number 1 exit out of the subway station. When leaving the exit on top, take a right 90 degree turn: You are now facing SiPing Lu (the road that is currently under construction, like half Shanghai is) Go right and cross the street, you will have a KTV on your righthand side. Walk a bit further, cross another street and right in front of you you will see Heting Elite. You recognose it from the BIG yellow letters "HETING ELITE" on the display on the 3rd floor.
2. If you enter, you will be taken to a private room with a few massage chairs and your own private locker. A guy will help you undress and put your things inside the locker. You will receive a arm bracelet with your room number.
3. After undressing, the guy will walk you to a shower area: Shower. After you are finished, some guys will help you dry yourself and you will be brought back to your room.
4. Your room has 2 doors: 1 door that you came in from (from the outside) and 1 door which you have taken to goto the shower section. Right next to the entry door there's a blue button, push it! The button will now be lit.
5. Someone will come and bring you some refreshments and will ask you if you want a massage (AnMo) indiacte yes. He will leave again and leave you with your refreshements.
6. Push the blue button again to signal you are ready. Be patient, you are here to relax, they will not forget you, but you will have to indicate them you are ready for the next step by pushing that button.
7. A person in a suit will come in and take you to another area where there will be 5 girls for you to choose. Lined up from tall to short. Make your pick, or indicate you want another selection. The girl will take your hand and guide you through the rest of the process. Enjoy.
8. At the end of the deed the girl will bring you back to the first section, there you will shower again and be brought back to your room. There will be some tea and a nice fruit selection or fruit soup for you waiting.
Personally I think the setup of HeTing is very nice, but the sauna section is a bit. Limited. Only showers (nice daylight lightening!) a small square bath and a heat-sauna. On the way out I noticed also a scrub table. But that was about it. I would have expected at least some bubbly thingies. HeTing doesn't hide it's business IMO, but no worries, LE will know about any sauna, BBS and other business of this kind anyway: They don; t care as long as they receive their HongBou. (a LE officer.not in uniform, but dropped off by a LE minivan- entered the place together with me and smiled when he entered the room right next to me, and again when we met in the shower area)
This experience also gave me something to add to the "number of pops discussion". How many pops is up to yourself. The girls just work a program and in this "program" there's only 1 pop included. You need to take charge to get the max out of it. Today my girl gave me 4 pops. We tried number 5, but. I'm not a young god anymore. I entered at 16. 00 and left at around 17. 30 and usually I would go out and get me a all-nighter. But I'm to knackered currently. She did a good job.
- Location:
HeTing Elite, SiPing Lu 777
- Girls number:
156, middle lenght, I'd say 1. 55 meters high, A-cup (big nipples) and medium sized butts (that's "big" in Chinese terms)
- performance:
Top GFE! DFK, continually, BBBJ-CIM (she swallowed), no anal (I tried), 4 shots (couldn't get 5th off). Handed me her phone number.
- cost
798, but when I mentioned I didn't needed the VaPiau it dropped to 598
On a side note: I saw a fellow LaoWan when I exited with his shorts still on in the shower area. The attendant motioned the shorts had to go. And the LoaWan said "no way! " I couldn't help but giggle.
Oh, and please, if a place shuts down, please remember the following before shouting that the LE took "controll" or "forced" them. Chinese, the local clientelle, favour "new" above anything. Many places will be shut down for a few months after a period of 1, 5-2 years of operation to get a "redecoration". Sometimes this redecoration is. Just a few people banging hammers and nails for a few months so the clientelle gets the feeling the place is "new" again. Sauna's and BBS and KTV's are a part of Chinese culture and altho they might be pushed by the National Gov to seize operation for a period when there's a big international event going on: Olympics or Expo, the customers are still there, the girls are still there, the bosses are still there: they just move a bit, they don't disappear. Just North of the Railway station currently for example is BBS-heaven. Every street has at least 5 of them.
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Hi all,
Find myself with a day/early evening in Shanghia staying at Renaissance Yangtze.
As Shanghia is not my normal stomping ground could anybody tell me if the hotel if gf?
I would also appreciate it if anybody has any recomendations that are close to this hotel?
Any info would be greatly apprecaited.
Tia, Luke
I re-visited HaiLong Sauna two nights ago.
The place was ghastly empty. In the past there were always about 20 punters around, this time I saw only two.
Considering the reports about G18 and what I've hear from friends, it looks like the crack down for the Exposition has already started.
have you noticed, seen, expereinced anything?
[QUOTE=Laowei137]With the directions in hand from Nightwing88 a few pages below this posting I went and visited Heting Elite on SiPing Lu 777
I would like to add a few pointers to his report (thanks again Nightwing) which might help clarify some things for those who will visit the place for the first time, because, the operation is just a tad different then you're used to:
1. If you take the subway, take the number 8 line and get off at SiPing Road. Take the number 1 exit out of the subway station. When leaving the exit on top, take a right 90 degree turn: You are now facing SiPing Lu (the road that is currently under construction, like half Shanghai is) Go right and cross the street, you will have a KTV on your righthand side. Walk a bit further, cross another street and right in front of you you will see Heting Elite. You recognose it from the BIG yellow letters "HETING ELITE" on the display on the 3rd floor.
2. If you enter, you will be taken to a private room with a few massage chairs and your own private locker. A guy will help you undress and put your things inside the locker. You will receive a arm bracelet with your room number.
3. After undressing, the guy will walk you to a shower area: Shower. After you are finished, some guys will help you dry yourself and you will be brought back to your room.
4. Your room has 2 doors: 1 door that you came in from (from the outside) and 1 door which you have taken to goto the shower section. Right next to the entry door there's a blue button, push it! The button will now be lit.
5. Someone will come and bring you some refreshments and will ask you if you want a massage (AnMo) indiacte yes. He will leave again and leave you with your refreshements.
6. Push the blue button again to signal you are ready. Be patient, you are here to relax, they will not forget you, but you will have to indicate them you are ready for the next step by pushing that button.
7. A person in a suit will come in and take you to another area where there will be 5 girls for you to choose. Lined up from tall to short. Make your pick, or indicate you want another selection. The girl will take your hand and guide you through the rest of the process. Enjoy.
8. At the end of the deed the girl will bring you back to the first section, there you will shower again and be brought back to your room. There will be some tea and a nice fruit selection or fruit soup for you waiting.
Personally I think the setup of HeTing is very nice, but the sauna section is a bit. Limited. Only showers (nice daylight lightening!) a small square bath and a heat-sauna. On the way out I noticed also a scrub table. But that was about it. I would have expected at least some bubbly thingies. HeTing doesn't hide it's business IMO, but no worries, LE will know about any sauna, BBS and other business of this kind anyway: They don; t care as long as they receive their HongBou. (a LE officer.not in uniform, but dropped off by a LE minivan- entered the place together with me and smiled when he entered the room right next to me, and again when we met in the shower area)
This experience also gave me something to add to the "number of pops discussion". How many pops is up to yourself. The girls just work a program and in this "program" there's only 1 pop included. You need to take charge to get the max out of it. Today my girl gave me 4 pops. We tried number 5, but. I'm not a young god anymore. I entered at 16. 00 and left at around 17. 30 and usually I would go out and get me a all-nighter. But I'm to knackered currently. She did a good job.
- Location:
HeTing Elite, SiPing Lu 777
- Girls number:
156, middle lenght, I'd say 1. 55 meters high, A-cup (big nipples) and medium sized butts (that's "big" in Chinese terms)
- performance:
Top GFE! DFK, continually, BBBJ-CIM (she swallowed), no anal (I tried), 4 shots (couldn't get 5th off). Handed me her phone number.
- cost
798, but when I mentioned I didn't needed the VaPiau it dropped to 598
On a side note: I saw a fellow LaoWan when I exited with his shorts still on in the shower area. The attendant motioned the shorts had to go. And the LoaWan said "no way! " I couldn't help but giggle.
Oh, and please, if a place shuts down, please remember the following before shouting that the LE took "controll" or "forced" them. Chinese, the local clientelle, favour "new" above anything. Many places will be shut down for a few months after a period of 1, 5-2 years of operation to get a "redecoration". Sometimes this redecoration is. Just a few people banging hammers and nails for a few months so the clientelle gets the feeling the place is "new" again. Sauna's and BBS and KTV's are a part of Chinese culture and altho they might be pushed by the National Gov to seize operation for a period when there's a big international event going on: Olympics or Expo, the customers are still there, the girls are still there, the bosses are still there: they just move a bit, they don't disappear. Just North of the Railway station currently for example is BBS-heaven. Every street has at least 5 of them.
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This is my first report so be gentle haha.
Anyways, after reading about the location of Heting Elite, I decided to go for a little exploration. Taking line 8 of the Metro, I got off at Siping Road station. From the directions I had with me, I was confused and with my poor navigational skills, I spent about 30 minutes walking in the wrong directions before I caved and asked a street cleaner which way I should go. After finding the building and walking in, I was eagerly approached by two young males who asked me something in Chinese but I couldn't understand. After a little bit of confusion, they finally understood what I wanted and led me to the elevator. The doors opened at level 3 and upon walking out of the elevator I saw the reception area of what seemed to be a very clean and professional establishment. The décor of the place reminded me of a very upper-class bar or a high class hotel.
I approached the desk and after some more confusing Chinese discussion was told that it would cost me 600RMB for 70mins (I came in at around 4:00pm on a Saturday). I graciously agreed and was led to another much brighter room, with whitish walls, several reclining chairs, a large plasma TV and a small area with lockers to store your belongings. I got changed and was led into the shower area where I quickly bathed, wrapped myself in a rope and returned to the same white room. Within a few minutes I was given a few slices of watermelon and a cup of Chinese tea, whilst I waited and relaxed on one of the chairs. It felt like around 15 minutes before another guy asked me if I wanted to see the girls now. I said yes and we walked down a red hallway to the selection that they had available at the time which was only 1 girl 1 vietnamese girl (numbered 125). Well, not to state the obvious but I wasn't entirely pleased. Not that this girl was bad (probably around a 7) but I was looking for something a little more 'from China' so to speak.
As this was my first time trying anything like this I agreed and the girl led me to a room. Inside the room, I got a better look at the girl I had chosen. The scantily dressed clothes she was wearing didn't do her body justice. She wore a bra and panties covered by a thin, see through dress that looked like something you would wear to sleep in. I was pretty nervous so I laid on the bed as she got undressed. Her body was slim in general but her ass was a little on the bigger side, along with her legs. Her breasts were on the smallish side (probably a be cup) and although she told me she was 22, I estimate she was probably at least 24 if not older. Her face was nice, good smooth skin but again, nothing too amazing. None the less, we both knew what I wanted so we wasted no time. She started off with the hot water routine (having a mouthful of warm to hottish water and kind of slurping it all over your body). She seemed to be turned on by my hard cock so after 5 minutes of working my body she took another mouthful of water and started sucking my cock. The water made the first suck soooo good, almost felt like popping right there and then. But the temperature of the water in her mouth quickly cooled and it was back to a regular BBBJ. Soon after she took out a condom and slowly put it on me. Me, not being very sexually experienced, let her take charge. We started off with a little cow girl, before she moved her legs in a squatting position to get better leverage. To be honest, she looked like she knew what she was doing and had heaps of energy. With each thrust she let out a loud moan which was a turn on.
A few minutes later she put her arms around my neck and leaned back, bringing me into missionary position (my favourite position). I soon popped and we rested, cuddling each other as she stroked my cock. I asked to extend the time by 30 minutes so we could take things a little slower. She gave me another massage but this time it was much more extensive. She did the hot water routine but literally sucked every part of my body, from fingers to toes and even did that thing where they cover your big toe with a condom and sit on it (didn't do anything for me though). Frankly, although the sucking of my toes felt good, after that, I didn't want to kiss her anymore put me off big time, especially knowing that she does that for every guy. She then gave me another BBBJ and then we went for round 2. Although the sex felt great I failed to pop this time. We tried several positions, including ones I've never done before, but alas, nothing happened.
When our time was up, we got dressed and she led me to the shower room where I took another shower, gathered my things and paid my bill. All up it was 800 RMB, which is probably on the pricy side perhaps, but it was a good experience none the less. I was disappointed with the selection and since mine was so limited, I can't comment on the range of girls (although I will probably go back another time to see if they have a larger range). It probably was my fault for going so early, I would suspect say around 7 – 8pm, they would have a larger range.
The rooms themselves are very clean and everything looks well maintained. The staff are friendly and very welcoming, despite our language difficulties. The manager whom assisted me was Lei Zhou. He's probably around 5'10" and wears glasses. Very polite and tries to make you feel comfortable. I would definitely recommend the place if you are going for something more relaxing than just a quick pop. With the way the whole thing is laid out, it's obvious they trying to really give you a relaxing, stress free experience.
David
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[QUOTE=Laowei137] Personally I think the setup of HeTing is very nice, but the sauna section is a bit. Limited. Only showers (nice daylight lightening!) a small square bath and a heat-sauna. On the way out I noticed also a scrub table. But that was about it. I would have expected at least some bubbly thingies. HeTing doesn't hide it's business IMO, but no worries, LE will know about any sauna, BBS and other business of this kind anyway: They don; t care as long as they receive their HongBou. (a LE officer.not in uniform, but dropped off by a LE minivan- entered the place together with me and smiled when he entered the room right next to me, and again when we met in the shower area)
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Thanks for the great report. Heting should give you a discount for it. I had the same experience but with dudes in military fatigues in a pudong sauna. I guess they were either soldiers or paramilitary cops. No one said anything out of ordinary and those boys just acted like two punters looking for a good time. I left before I had a chance to see whether they paid or had a free meal.
Now if you don't mind, could you advise whether this place offers soapie or red rope? Cheers