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Did you think about reducing to one session a week, but suggesting she finds another girl for you for 4000 for 4 hours, and she can take 1000 commission?

It can be a difficult conversation to have...

Don't forget all sex work is illegal in Ukraine supposedly. Including cam girls in theory.

So apartments (and phone numbers) change quite frequently. Salons less often. Some massage parlours /...

Obviously so many factors are involved including how the girls rate you if you're trying to find a freebie / date.

But if you speak no Russian / Ukrainian it will cut a lot of the field off from...

Agree with Yummy here. The ones returning that I've seen are the cream of 18-25 yo girls who are extremely good looking with great bodies, who were so successful abroad they didn't need to return....

Not been on here for a long time, but still regularly in Kyiv. I'm an old timer since pre-River Palace glory days and two revolutions!

Good to see a lot of sensible chat and advice. Yep, the...

An early GF of mine was on smotri, com long before Chaturbate existed.

No reason to think it is a scam. Other than now she knows her worth, and you could spend a lot more than a younger student...

500 last time I visited, 800 for four hands for an hour.

I've been coming to Ukraine for years. I have recently twice been given incorrect change in coffee bars. It was not a mistake.

One time I gave a 200UAH note and my change was 50UAH light. The...

Very safe. Two weeks ago I walked home very drunk from Shooters back to Bessarabska at around 0500. Not a soul bothered me.

Just don't let people see you with a map. Don't let mobiles and wallets...

Pink Rhino. Same as all the other Rhinos.

200 UAH for a private dance. 2-for-1 offers on dances every 20-30 minutes.

During a private dance you can either wank yourself, or touch the girl a...

It says no intim, but http://5rooms.com.ua/en/uslugi/elite-massage.html

Could be useful. Just call them.

Otherwise you'll get what you want on mamba. One girl offered me massage for 350, with...

Not heard of this. But good work. Good for being alert.

Remember the old adage, if something smells wrong, it is!

There is a militsiya HQ near Red Lion strip bar, through the arch from Kreshchatyk. And another office at bottom of Mikhailivska, by McDonalds in Maidan. In addition there is some sort of police /...

There is no hard and fast rule.

From my experience you can either

1) touch them all over (some girls even allow fingers inside, but increasingly unusual these days). Anyway girl will let you...

Haha, BarbaP you know me. We are of similar mind and wicked intentions.

Legal and inexperienced is the goal. I thought I found such a girl (table of 3 shy stunners in some cheap restaurant last...

Pizdets! Cruiser. Only once a year do I read something and think "fuck, why didn't I think of that?"

Awesome. Agree it's probably harder now, but I will try the tactic next month!

Indeed I...

Nu the. Same as the "marriage agencies".

I know girls who have profiles on some of the more respectable ones, and some girls who work for these agencies just spend all day writing pretending to be...

StevK, apartments same as at home? They are great and cheap. Especially if you develop relationship with an agency as a frequent visitor. And you can eat really well in Puzata Hata or similar places...

Just catching up with the Kyiv thread after a long while away, and a few new names I see. I have to say this is one of the best posts I read in a while from someone I don't know! All very sound...

Not possible to PM you! I'll be around!

NET! Canada is number 1 on the world for expat Ukrainians. Massive Ukr community in Canada.

You've written an awful lot recently, requesting all sorts of details on the Kiev thread.

I don't really think you have any right to accuse anyone of "speaks nonsence"

I know a few guys from...

Yep, LJ is 100% correct.

I too sampled from there. One of my ex GF worked there too after we split, when she progressed from "dancer only" to take out option, which she tried to hide from me.

Yep, we need someone to make the first ISG visit and report back.

Website is shite, but at least it gives address, and Respublinkansky Metro (now Olimpiyskiy) is just a minute away.

Club is one...

Without a doubt for me your best bet is Sept. Especially for inexperienced Ukrainian travellers.

Lots of new studentkii flesh and weather is perfect. May is great too, so many pissed girls at...