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There are easily 500 posts in this thread alone devoted just to strategies for meeting girls on Mamba. Are you that dumb / lazy / obtuse that you can't use the search function?

Twas ever thus Stevie. I suspect the problem is those guys who visit Kiev but have no knowledge of resources like this site (and therefore no benchmark) and who then overpay.

To be honest, it's not a great idea. Kiev itself is a wonderful city, and the nightlife is pretty damn good but the monger scene is not suitable for first time visitors unless you have spent time and...

You've failed the first test. You've arrived in (what I assume is) a new city having done little to no research.

Go back 50 pages, read the information contained within, proceed newly armed with...

Kiev is a hell of a lot better than Warsaw, so yes, it's certainly worth the short journey. I would caveat that with the following:

1) Whilst Russian isn't essential, you would be doing yourself a...

To many of us, Kiev will always be a special, somewhat magical city. I cannot describe the fun, craziness and excitement this city have generously provided. For those of us lucky enough to visit 10+...

Yep, a relatively expensive lesson learned the hard way. Thanks for sharing though, undoubtedly it'll help someone who may be tempted to try the same thing.

Only time will really tell as to what the lifting of visa restrictions will do to talent in Kiev. Ultimately, the top tier girls won't be affected, they already travel whenever they want thanks to...

Judging by your posts so far, you're all opinion and no actual reports. Do feel free to actually report your boots on the ground experience because clearly you know more than the rest of us.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with playing the long time. Some of the best experiences I've had have taken 3-4 meetings (and sometimes months) to bear fruit, but they were all well worth the...

Before this turns into another pointless flame war, let's just remember why we're all here and focus on the job at hand. As Trump would say, "grabbing pussy".

Interesting perspective, you might be right. I'll give it one more shot.

Couple of reasons:

1) Virtually every time I've been there (which admittedly is 3-4 times) it's been a sausage fest, with guys way outnumbering girls.

2) It's pricey for what it is.

3) Even...

Your first challenge will be getting in the door on a Friday or Saturday night, both places operate fairly strict face control.

If you do get in, expect a fairly busy bar with girls either...

If you came to Kiev specifically for pussy, and you did zero prep or research, this is exactly what happens.

Then we are both in agreement that the first time monger who arrives having done no preparation is doomed to failure. But my point is that this has always been the case. It isn't a recent thing. I do...

You know this how exactly?

Read my previous posts related to Kiev and you'll see that most of them contain information to help first time visitors. That's what this site is for.

Can you also...

I've been going to Kiev since 2004 including a six month spell living in the city. I know my way around, I know the way it was and I know the way it is now. Your posts do not reflect my experiences...

For you the prices went up.

The rest of us seem to be getting it at the same price as always.

There are always going to be idiots willing to pay the silly prices *some* girls quote. Those of us...

Have you been to Kiev in the last 3 months? I have, 4 times, and I'm calling bullshit. To say the good looking pussies have all left is utter nonsense.

We get it, you don't like Kiev. No-one is...

About 3 years ago on TopModals there was about a 50/50 chance that you'd get the girl in the photo if they were "verified". Sadly there's no longer even a 10% chance.

Very true Steve, but don't forget the (unfortunately) larger group of rich guys external to Ukraine who are happy to import these girls to Dubai / Thailand / Maldives at the drop of a hat. Still,...

Have you ever actually been to Kiev? Doesn't sound anything like my experience. Stick to Medellin maybe, I'll happily take on your share of long-limbed devs.

I think these days it's certainly a tougher place to visit for the newbie. If you have a good contact network there, or know how the place works (where to go etc) then it's not really changed to much...

In what way do they tell you that? She looks legit to me, plus she seems to be searching for something serious.