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Tables in the FSU generally come with bottle service.

You left me with a semi pro looking for love who didn't want to give any. :P Or was that the night some expat hand delivered his girlfriend to me, I can't remember.

It was a good night tho, I...

I was sitting at Irish Lad's table at Shooters a couple of months ago. It was quite a large group of people. 4 or so girl, 4 or so guys. Numbers varied during the course of the night.

When IL left...

Hecker, the club girl dynamic is the same around the world. You missed out observing that dynamic because you probably weren't hitting Western clubs in your late teens/twenties. It has nothing at all...

I agree Doc, culture shock and being away from family is generally what sends FSU girls packing back to the motherland.

A Ukrainian girl I know has said this at various times, 'Lugansk is boring',...

For foreign guys with money to spend, yes.

For local guys with money to spend, yes

For foreigners living in some rat hole left bank apartment, not so much.

For some Ukrainian guys who's idea...

I think if you get outside of Kiev and Odessa you should be okay. But unless you want to start hitting the villages I think the days of girls throwing themselves at you because you are foreign is...

Otto, what is so puzzling about your encounter? The girls really weren't that interested in you. They entered the club with their coats on to see if it was worth it. They checked their coats, danced...

I say we start passing the hat for a Ukrainian Sim card for VV. Of course we will also have to include postal so we can mail it to him in France.

VV, interesting file names for your photos - almost like you downloaded them off a webpage or something.

Those quality girls for those prices would be expensive in Kiev.

Let me know how it goes...