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It's not worth talking about. It's long gone. Better to stay focused on the "now" . You seem to be having a good time in PI. Stay on the roll!

Agree also. There is nothing "high class" or top shelf in the Burgos bars. It's an overpriced place geared for guys with lots of money that don't mind parting with it. It used to be a lot of fun back...

It's called supply and demand.

I've heard of guys entangled in these types of scams. They do exist, and and seem to be targeted towards the careless types. This is nothing new really. It's been around for years!

Pretty much all of Asia has suffered. Nowhere in SE Asia is as good as before. It's like drinking watered down drinks. The buzz factor keeps getting lower and lower. To remain on topic, I've visited...

If you're a foreigner, they can twist any law to get you if they really want to. They can create any narrative they want, just have a look online news clippings of all the horror stories with...

I never made that claim. Read it again!

Don't believe everything you read on a forum. Anyone can make up shit in this new internet age. Pattaya old hands will chuckle at this one.

From the dregs of LAcafe and Robinsons to Pegasus would be a huge leap indeed.

Agree, the quality is very poor. More or less on the same level as LAcafe. Another spot to go and say you've been there and got the t-shirt. On the flip side, if one has any game, greenbelt is loaded...

Spot on.

It's a place to visit and say you've been there and got the t-shirt.

I concur. My last several visits yielded nothing also. Quality has gotten really bad! I'm a picky monger, however.

Spot on! Years ago LA Cafe had some decent talent and was certainly worth a visit. Nowadays it's packed full of old worn dogs. Not worth the visit IMO, however some people still tend to like it. All...

There are still a few casas in Manila.

There are a few about, but they're certainly an endagered species in the bar scene. Pretty much dregs these days in all the popular p4 p venues in Makati. The malate / ermitta karaokes had the best...

Brilliant post! A lot of wisdom here.

I love this one:

"When she says, she is "happy single mom", it means she desperately needs walking ATM to provide her child. Such women are considered as...

Welcome to the Philippines. Expect more stuff that makes your head spin.

PM me, I know Dannok.

Agree, Makati has really suffered in the last few years. IMO, for Manila the whole p4 p easy pickups joints have all slipped in quality. Having said that, the less picky mongers are still having fun...

Agree. I did a few rounds here last month and it had nothing but dregs. Worst I've ever seen at LA.

The expensive tease karaoke joints just down the road has all the lookers. Really nice quality...

Agree 100%.

Agree. IMO PI as a whole has slipped tremendously.

If the only hope to score decent girls at decent prices is through dating apps and sifting through the street dregs, then I don't consider PI as...

Please explain the scam completely.

A great report from Socker showing the further deterioration of the (tourist) mongering scene in BKK.
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http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2131232&viewfull=1#post2131232

A nice report from Monkeypaw showing what $120 usd gets you nowadays for a ST fuck...