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"Training wheels" was the first comparison that came to my mind, too, but on second thought, it's not. More like driving a car instead of learning to ride a bicycle. You can go on a 100 sugar dates...

Because they understand women and see through their BS. Not every post on this forum can say the same.

Isn't that your goal too: to win "top shelf women" long-term, as you put it (and tell us...

Precisely. That was the OP's question and that's what the word means to most people.

I'd say "renting" rather than winning: if he stops paying / supporting / helping them, they stop fucking. And...

A couple of posters implied that the two are comparable, so for the guys who might be new to both endeavors, let me talk about the differences as I see them. For the meaning of the word "game" in...

Two out of my approx fifty sugars last year asked for dick picks. Both were legit. One didn't want large, the other didn't want small. (Well, the latter was actually an opportunistic scammer and used...

What clinic do you use in SP for STD testing? How long does it take to get the results?

I'd say LaBelle is the best of them. I saw a decent lineup there on a Sunday night, so other days must be even better.

Emmanuelle is also very good and popular, so good to get there early. Their...

Why do you assume the OP has no hook on his line (ie not attractive -- is that what you meant to imply)? He may well be successful. Besides, game and p4 p are not mutually exclusive.

OP asked...

You can't always buy services of a particular woman or place, but you can always buy sex elsewhere.

I didn't say it was transactional; it just isn't game. Game is how you have sex with a woman for...

In this case, I don't argue -- I educate. Some fragile egos with thousands of posts take don't take it well; I hope they add me to their ignore list.

How many women have you been with (with no...

Time is not money. If it were, how much dollar value would you assign to your thousands of posts on this forum; did you donate this time-money to ISG? It'll take me 5 minutes to write this post; I...

Agreed. But still, the OP was asking about game for picking up regular girls. I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that his interest was in the game rather than in saving money on sex. So I said this...

I just don't understand what you mean.

The OP was asking about picking up regular girls, implying that no money payment would be involved. I shared my limited experience on how that worked. I...

Not the same "game" -- he was asking about picking up regular girls, with no money involved.

If I meet a woman at a club (or beach, or bookstore, or tinder, or feeld or whatever), we meet, fuck...

There is no 'game' if we are paying LOL! PU is a lot of work. You got to go where the girls are, max out your looks and profile, be on the top of your game, and still contend with a lot of failed...

On recent trips I visited Maria, Black Caviar, Emmanuelle, La Belle, Poseidon, Tara (by the airport) and Utopia. I agree with you that Maria is overpriced. For me, Emmanuelle (reopened), La Belle,...

It's like finishing their work shift an hour early. Often they just want to go home, shower, and go to sleep. Most girls don't sleep well on all night jobs. Either they worry that guys will try to...

What loophole? I thought you found a way to browse profiles without an UNPAID account, I. E. Without logging in at all. Like you can read this forum without logging in. Perhaps I'm missing something...

Maybe the old profile was blocked or hidden by some hot SBs. Not because you some issue with them -- they simply left-swiped you in favor of other guys. So a new profile gives you a second chance...

With all due respect, I don't know her or your relationship so the following is just a general FYI. On SB boards and forums, a story like this is one suggested tactic to get a guy to raise the PPM:...

How did you see her profile if you'd deleted your account? Is it possible to browse seeking profiles without an active (unpaid) account? As in aside, ime seeking profiles with super hot photos are...

Without photos, how did you decide on who to contact? (and thanks for the report!

I had 5 k quoted on Seeking and in some DIFC hotel lounges. Most of those girls then agreed to 1. 5-2 k and we met, but some did not. All dropped their price from 5 k down to at least 2. 5-3 k. As a...

If it's a street-level massage shop with a small room and a shower, then sure. But it just didn't feel like Maria and Black Caviar wanted hot and sweaty guys. Especially if you decided to get a drink...

Correction: Black Caviar actually starts at 6,000 (S).

Maria starts at 7,000 (L).