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[J Boy]

http://www.cathay-usa.com/dotm/dotm.asp $778+taxes = $836.65

I just got $662 total with taxes from LAX to MNL using EDWARD MABUNGA
WWW.EMABUNGA.COM/ 1-888-622-8642 (1-888-MABUNGA)

You might get a quote from him.

[Black04]

For those that are in the P.I. already are the rumors of a coup de'ta during or a little after Philippine Independence coming up in the news at all?

Black04

[Lustforthrust]

I realize people always put up travel agent info. I am looking for new updated info if anyone has any. I have to go from NYC to Manila. Cheapest I have seen is $1199 and that is Korean Airlines going from NYC to Seoul and then on to Manila from there. I am going to assume there is a refuel stop in there somewhere but the travel agent never emailed me that info.

I know there are packages during the winter (US WINTER) that are as low as $700 or so. Unfortunately, I am moving there for a job opportunity and I am responsible for my own ticket. I am not happy about that but the money is good and it is a chance to get paid to live in the land of booze and broads. Adult Disneyland here I come!

As I said earlier. If anyone has any new updated info for travelling to Manila during July/August I would be mighty grateful.

http://www.cathay-usa.com/dotm/dotm.asp $778+taxes = $836.65

[Cebu Local]

I realize people always put up travel agent info. I am looking for new updated info if anyone has any. I have to go from NYC to Manila. Cheapest I have seen is $1199 and that is Korean Airlines going from NYC to Seoul and then on to Manila from there. I am going to assume there is a refuel stop in there somewhere but the travel agent never emailed me that info.

I know there are packages during the winter (US WINTER) that are as low as $700 or so. Unfortunately, I am moving there for a job opportunity and I am responsible for my own ticket. I am not happy about that but the money is good and it is a chance to get paid to live in the land of booze and broads. Adult Disneyland here I come!

As I said earlier. If anyone has any new updated info for travelling to Manila during July/August I would be mighty grateful.

actually PAL is NOT the best option to the PI from New York,Can I suggest checking the travel agents who advertise in the Philippine newspapers.They give them for free at Filipino stores and Restaurants.Asiana and Northwest have proven more competititive,Cathay is also quite aggressive at times.Hope this helps

[GoodEnough]

Vinnie:

I would suggest you contact a travel agent in the PI and ask for a quote on PAL. If you need the name, address and email contacts of some agents here, send me a PM and I will forward them to you.

Black04:

Actually the metro Manila area is pretty enormous, and the idiocy of the drivers, the lack of many large freeways, and the sheer volume of traffic combine to make it difficult, during certain times, to travel from one part to another. It has taken me more than 90 minutes, on occassion, to get from parts of Quezon City to Makati. However, during prime womanizing hours, you can get fairly easily from Makati to Ermita in about 20 minutes and to EDSA in 10 or 15. You can also make it from Makati to the new complex in Paranaque in 20 minutes or so by taxi.

:D

GE

[Vinnie1369]

I realize people always put up travel agent info. I am looking for new updated info if anyone has any. I have to go from NYC to Manila. Cheapest I have seen is $1199 and that is Korean Airlines going from NYC to Seoul and then on to Manila from there. I am going to assume there is a refuel stop in there somewhere but the travel agent never emailed me that info.

I know there are packages during the winter (US WINTER) that are as low as $700 or so. Unfortunately, I am moving there for a job opportunity and I am responsible for my own ticket. I am not happy about that but the money is good and it is a chance to get paid to live in the land of booze and broads. Adult Disneyland here I come!

As I said earlier. If anyone has any new updated info for travelling to Manila during July/August I would be mighty grateful.

[Black04]

Black 04:

The L.A. Cafe is in Ermita, not Edsa or Makati. However, if you're walking up Del Pilar (the street on which LA Cafe is located) you will find three or four bars, including Amazon and then there's Jarrasic directly across the street. The EDSA complex has about 15 bars, but there are several others throughout the area. Also the new entertainment complex in Paranaque is supposed to be decent, though I've never been. In Makati itself there's Burgos St. and it's 10 or 15 bars, and dozens more throughout the area, including all the places in Green Hills.

Better to decide where you want to be. For me, it's always Makati, but others like different places.

GE

Thanks GE.

Am I right to assume that Makati is the closest to the center? And from there I can get to Edsa, Ermita, QC in a reasonable amount of time? I kinda want to hit a different city every other night, but well see.

I'm not going to stress myself out, it's not like Manila and surrounding cities are as huge as LA or NY metros.

[GoodEnough]

Black 04:

The L.A. Cafe is in Ermita, not Edsa or Makati. However, if you're walking up Del Pilar (the street on which LA Cafe is located) you will find three or four bars, including Amazon and then there's Jarrasic directly across the street. The EDSA complex has about 15 bars, but there are several others throughout the area. Also the new entertainment complex in Paranaque is supposed to be decent, though I've never been. In Makati itself there's Burgos St. and it's 10 or 15 bars, and dozens more throughout the area, including all the places in Green Hills.

Better to decide where you want to be. For me, it's always Makati, but others like different places.

GE

[Black04]

Anyone have some good tips for me, either makati or edsa, besides LA Cafe? is it pronounced L.A. Cafe or la cafe?

To all that pm thanks.

Thanks all.

[Sugoi]

Sugoi,

Try this website www.asiatravel.com and see if you can find something in the Ortigas area to stay.

I looked at that but not knowing the area nor the hotels, I don't know which ones are any good. So, I'm looking for people who know the area who can offer a hand.

Thanks.

[Genuis8]

Sugoi,

Try this website www.asiatravel.com and see if you can find something in the Ortigas area to stay.

[Sugoi]

I will be working in the Ortigas area for a little over a month and am looking for a decent hotel with a decent monthly rate. I am starting a call center so the room is coming on my dime so I would like to get something decent at a reasonable price.

Any suggestions?

[Pure Logic]

In my view, the evolutionary reasons for humor lie in teaching morality. By laughing at something, we make it clear that it is completely inappropriate and not to be taken seriously. As adults, we are hardly being taught anything, since we've heard the same type of thing many times before. Yet eventually a joke will find its way to a younger more impressionable audience.

Mahku's joke teaches that

• prostitution is cause for moral indignation
• it is inappropriate to regard money as so much more important than one's moral values
• hypocrisy is bad
• forgiveness should not be based on self-interest
• one should not be so obvious about one's hypocrisy

Without these moral assumptions, the joke wouldn’t be funny.

The practical effect of the joke, as well as most jokes of our time, is to affirm a kind of cynicism, a certain hopelessness and pessimism that permeates our culture. It’s absurd that the father values the material junk that his daughter brought home, but oh, well, there’s nothing we can do about it. That’s human nature. People have lost the ability to take themselves or the world seriously; hence, their preference for laughing things off with a good sense of humor.

[Cebu Local]

[QUOTE=Pure Logic]The paradox I initially tried to communicate was that according to western logic, the sum of expenditures cannot exceed the sum of incomes.

Most of the discussion related to how Filipinos don’t spend money wisely. This discussion hinted at a related paradox: Common sense suggests that when you’re poor, you must budget wisely or suffer unpleasant consequences, such as having no food to eat, no clean clothes to wear, or being homeless. I find it remarkable how well the poor are able to make ends meet.

Perhaps GoodEnough suggested the best explanation for the second paradox. The Filipinos have a social network in which everyone lends money to everyone else. This doesn’t produce any net gain, but if you don’t spend your money right away you’ll be obligated to give it away to someone else. The person who has nothing can ask for help, so it’s better to have nothing.

To the first paradox, Cebu Local suggested installment plans, but what would prevent someone from running away with a new cell phone without having paid for it? Or how would one force someone to make payments who doesn’t have any money? However, the explanation is logical in that it shows how something can be obtained for no payment. Bartering would be another example of this type of explanation because it shows that the overall expenses are less than what one would expect
Actually I have a good insight because Smart and Globe Telecom are both clients of mine and there is a high 25% default rater on phones bought on installment under the different plans.But since the markup is so high,they are still ahead even with the 25% default rate

[Cebu Local]

I did BKK-MNL one way in February on Philippine Air for around $200 IIRC.

There are several LCCs operating out of BKK and SIN as well as KUL. You can book BKK-SIN for as low as 25 or 30 dollars, though that fare isn't always available.

If you want to save some money you may be able to book a couple of tickets on AirAsia, Jet*Asia, TigerAir, ValueAir and a few others that don't recall now. Just do a Google search.

You will have to connect in KUL or SIN and change planes / airlines, and it will cost you some time. OTOH, a couple of those airlines actually fly into CRK (Clark Air Base in Angeles), which will save you the hassle of getting from Manila to AC. Don't believe all the airlines fly to CRK 7 days a week.

Tiger is one of the airlines that flies to CRK, but that will normally set you back more than $50.

EMK

Tiger Airways will be going from 3 times a week to Daily from Singapore,Air Asia is 3 times weekly from KL.Both flying directly into Clark.Value Air does not fly into the Philippines yet and Jetstar flies into Manila