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[Dg8787]

I'll believe it's all a case of incumbents resisting new entrants who perhaps don't apply enough grease to the ride skids until I see evidence to the contrary. Regardless of the cause, aren't there one or more apps in the Philippines that summon taxis for backup, however distasteful? Is that Grab or some other app?

There is Grab but they are after Grab too.

[MrWoolyBooly]

Clearly to me there is some corruption involved to maintain status quo by keeping Uber and Grab out of the market. The Uber rep made a great case to the board without trashing anyone. Looks like retaliation to me and last ditch effort to squash Uber.

I am speculating that the Filipinos had a taste of reputable riding with Uber and Grab that they will not stand for this suspension, especially if it will make them wait in long lines again for unreputable taxis again.

There is only one reason for the success of Uber and Grab and that is the unsavory crooked market created by the existing taxis.

I'll believe it's all a case of incumbents resisting new entrants who perhaps don't apply enough grease to the ride skids until I see evidence to the contrary. Regardless of the cause, aren't there one or more apps in the Philippines that summon taxis for backup, however distasteful? Is that Grab or some other app?

[Dg8787]

Clearly to me there is some corruption involved to maintain status quo by keeping Uber and Grab out of the market. The Uber rep made a great case to the board without trashing anyone. Looks like retaliation to me and last ditch effort to squash Uber.

I am speculating that the Filipinos had a taste of reputable riding with Uber and Grab that they will not stand for this suspension, especially if it will make them wait in long lines again for unreputable taxis again.

There is only one reason for the success of Uber and Grab and that is the unsavory crooked market created by the existing taxis.

[Buko Max]

Quote.

The Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board on Monday suspended the accreditation and operations of Uber System Inc. (Uber) for one month.

In its advisory, the LTFRB said the board meted out the penalty of one-month suspension "on the accreditation of Uber System, Inc. (Uber) and was ordered to cease and desist its operations of their online booking application during the period of suspension. ".

LTFRB also recommended that Uber extend financial assistance to affected peer-operators during the one-month suspension "as an expression of good faith", noting that the operators "would not have suffered the current predicament were it not for the predatory actions of respondent user. ".

The suspension takes effect immediately.

Copies of the suspension were furnished to enforcers of the LTFRB, Land Transportation Office, Metropolitan Manila Development Authority, and the Philippine National Police Highway Patrol Group.

In a statement, Uber Philippines said they have received the order and is currently studying it.

"Uber received an order around 6 pm tonight (August 14) to completely stop operations. We are studying the order at the moment. We will update our riders and drivers as soon as we can," the company said.

Uber and rival Grab are in dispute with the LTFRB over the scope of regulation on ride-sharing services, sparking separate investigations by the Senate and the House of Representatives.

The LTFRB earlier fined Uber and Grab P5 million each, accusing the companies of operating some 50,000 vehicles without proper permits.

http://news.abs-cbn.com/business/08/...-for-one-month

[KongKing]

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A few ISG members who are frequent posters on the Philippine forum are harassing newcomers. Here are some of the methods they employ:

(1) Investigating
(2) Promulgating rules
(3) Insisting
(4)Directing
(6) Ridiculing newcomers and making ISG hostile to newcomers.

they are deluded ....snip.... an elevated status ...... snip...... persecuting newcomers.

Why do some people bully those that they can?

Pompetus, you are entitled to your own opinion, like anyone else. But methinks you are way over the top with your hyperbolic language (I have boldened the type as examples). Yes some members, not necessarily senior members, post opinions that may get up your nose and may to you seem excessive. We all have our own gripes about styles and patterns of behaviour. But, if I may coin a phrase, swallow it and move on!

I for one get a little bit pissed off with some members using unfamiliar abbreviations forcing me to move to the Abbrebiations page to find out what the hell they are talking about. Sometimes it is easier to say "read the forum" than wondering what RTFF means!

Some of us advocate that the Photo Gallery should be for photos and not for chit chat about photos and other topics. That is not "promulgating rules". That is urging common sense when there is also an adjacent Photo Gallery Chit Chat Forum available for comment. The Philippines Photo Forum shows how successful this self policing is. Of all the ISG photo forums it has the most photos (16,836) associated with the most postings (8796) at a strike rate of almost 2 photos to every posting. Well done guys!

Sorry mate, but your post, whilst eloquent and polite seems to me to be a waste of time and bandwidth.

I agree FreebieFan.

[Sxxxx]

Just a reminder: Sometimes your luggage is opened (security purposes) after you check in for your flight. They usually leave a calling-card.

Fellow ISG guy,

PM'd me that he received an email to call back at Manila Airport and pick up a baggage left behind.

He did not answer email or return to airport cause he did not leave any bag behind at the airport.

He suspected it might be a new airport scam, wherein you return, and Airport personnel put the heat on you re "contents of bag" , sort of thing.

Possibility. Take care.

[FreebieFan]

I am disappointed that you perceive the issue in terms of contrariness for its own sake. Allow me to give greater scope to the problem. A few ISG members who are frequent posters on the Philippine forum are harassing newcomers. Here are some of the methods they employ:

(1) Investigating newcomers to adjudge if their posts merit reply.

(2) Promulgating rules which a newcomer needs to follow in order to be worthy of a response.

(3) Insisting that a newcomer pay $20 so that he can receive a PM response to an inquiry even when that inquiry does not involve information of a confidential nature.

(4) Directing other members not respond to an inquiry made by a newcomer.

(5) Not making allowances for a newcomer's cultural differences and shortcomings in English proficiency.

(6) Ridiculing newcomers and making ISG hostile to newcomers.

A couple of these ISG members have upwards of 5,000 posts. Because of this, perhaps they are deluded into believing that they should be accorded an elevated status or that they have earned proprietary rights. I am not here to dispel their delusions but merely to ask that they stop persecuting newcomers.

Why do some people bully those that they can? Who knows? But deep down in some dark recess of personality there is fear and insecurity where Mommy's love was unable illuminate.

You mentioned that you expect something in return for help. I don't believe that is true about you. When a person stops you in the street and asks you for directions or say for a recommendation for a favorite restaurant in your neighborhood, you don't ask them for something in return. You don't refuse them and tell them to get a smartphone with GPS. (In fact I write reviews for Yelp and Trip Advisor without any expectation that those reading my reviews will ever make a review of their own.) Of course not. You want to be helpful and I think that is the kind of spirit we should have here on the ISG.

And of course some of us, perhaps those with posts in the 1,000's could of course say is it anyones business (yours or mine or otherwise) how we treat each other here. Seniority has its privileges. ? Sorry mate, but your post, whilst eloquent and polite seems to me to be a waste of time and bandwidth.

[Wimble]

Just a reminder: Sometimes your luggage is opened (security purposes) after you check in for your flight. They usually leave a calling-card.

In the past, depending on the airport, I would be informed by gate staff if anything was to be removed for security reasons, like a brand new tube of marine sealant for scuba or a can of Lysol. Sometimes, small expensive items will just go missing. A spare iPhone disappeared once. I now pack more carefully and hand carry the small expensive stuff if I can. The funny thing is most of the rummaging is on the US domestic connections when inbound. I know because I pick up my suitcase before customs and I can see they were untouched.

[MrWoolyBooly]

As for the $20 geez if they can't afford $20 how they afford to travel?

True, and if $20 is a stretch maybe they should be posting in a page "Bargains found under bridges over the Pasig River". Disclaimer: I have no idea where the cheapest services are offered. No disrespect intended to residents under said bridges.

[D Cups]

Pompetus,

Concur. The number of posts is not necessarily related to one's travel experience. However, some newcomers could read more first and then ask intelligent questions. As for the $20 geez if they can't afford $20 how they afford to travel? It is worth the annual subscription just for the PMs with other members. Just my .02.

[MrWoolyBooly]

I am disappointed that you perceive the issue in terms of contrariness for its own sake. Allow me to give greater scope to the problem. A few ISG members who are frequent posters on the Philippine forum are harassing newcomers. Here are some of the methods they employ:

(1) Investigating newcomers to adjudge if their posts merit reply.

(3) Insisting that a newcomer pay $20 so that he can receive a PM response to an inquiry even when that inquiry does not involve information of a confidential nature.

Greetings Mr. Pompetus,

May I point out objections to the above two points? Nobody is obligated to reply, with or without reason, or whether the reason is persuasive to others or not. Similarly, anyone can chose whether they prefer to respond publicly or via PM, with or without a reason that any others find persuasive. If both parties agree on method, communication occurs. Otherwise, no harm no foul.

I do agree with your general idea that civility, in particular to the vast majority of people whose first language is not English, would benefit all.

Regards,

WB.

[Member #4566]

Dude, seriously. You're entitled to your opinion but just being a contrarian for the sake of it is dull.

Going forward I'll reserve the right to call out anyone if I feel they're abusing other people's generosity with no intention of reciprocity. I do that in my day to day life, does that mean I'm too involved there too?

I am disappointed that you perceive the issue in terms of contrariness for its own sake. Allow me to give greater scope to the problem. A few ISG members who are frequent posters on the Philippine forum are harassing newcomers. Here are some of the methods they employ:

(1) Investigating newcomers to adjudge if their posts merit reply.

(2) Promulgating rules which a newcomer needs to follow in order to be worthy of a response.

(3) Insisting that a newcomer pay $20 so that he can receive a PM response to an inquiry even when that inquiry does not involve information of a confidential nature.

(4) Directing other members not respond to an inquiry made by a newcomer.

(5) Not making allowances for a newcomer's cultural differences and shortcomings in English proficiency.

(6) Ridiculing newcomers and making ISG hostile to newcomers.

A couple of these ISG members have upwards of 5,000 posts. Because of this, perhaps they are deluded into believing that they should be accorded an elevated status or that they have earned proprietary rights. I am not here to dispel their delusions but merely to ask that they stop persecuting newcomers.

Why do some people bully those that they can? Who knows? But deep down in some dark recess of personality there is fear and insecurity where Mommy's love was unable illuminate.

You mentioned that you expect something in return for help. I don't believe that is true about you. When a person stops you in the street and asks you for directions or say for a recommendation for a favorite restaurant in your neighborhood, you don't ask them for something in return. You don't refuse them and tell them to get a smartphone with GPS. (In fact I write reviews for Yelp and Trip Advisor without any expectation that those reading my reviews will ever make a review of their own.) Of course not. You want to be helpful and I think that is the kind of spirit we should have here on the ISG.

[BrainDrain]

Last weekend < I did a CSI type check of my condo. The girl who was visiting had previously found evidence of my playing, courtesy of the security guard with a big mouth, and made a big deal for 15 minutes then got into bed and we had the best night ever.
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I know your pain. Firstly it is so convenient and relaxing for us to entertain our multiple guess in the convenience of our apartment. When my GF returns thought I am just so nervous.

Last few times I have been going to a short time hotel. For the p500 investment it is just so good later. The girl that comes to the short time doesn't seem to be too interested as it seems to be a normal thing.

I did read in another thread about saying that I had an in-room massage. Might explore that idea.

BD.

[MrWoolyBooly]

I had a visitor today and insisted she clean most of her own hair up from the bed, the bathroom and swept the floor.

Brilliant!

[FreebieFan]

Mr Hutsori, you are truly the master of evidence removals. I salute you! I guess I'm too lazy. For any girl that reaches that level of importance, I'd probably rent a nearby condo for her alone, as well as a refuge from the main pleasure palace.

Last weekend < I did a CSI type check of my condo. The girl who was visiting had previously found evidence of my playing, courtesy of the security guard with a big mouth, and made a big deal for 15 minutes then got into bed and we had the best night ever.

So this time I cleaned every hair, removed everything I could (only because I like this girl). We go out drinking, get back to the apartment, clothes fall off and we get to the darkened bedroom. She says " can I turn the light on" and I said sure confident in my cleaning actions. Her eyes were like laser beams, they shot to the pillow and she triumphantly holds up two hairs and says " these arent mine ".

How she saw them is beyond me as I had shakedn those pillows for minutes.

She pouted at the door for 20 minute semi undressed, threatening to go home. ID already met one girl that day so I was calm. Eventually she got back into bed and we both enjoyed.

I had a visitor today and insisted she clean most of her own hair up from the bed, the bathroom and swept the floor. She was happy to comply. No idea whos hair she swept up but there was lots. LOL.