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07-26-10 06:54 #3898
Posts: 3230Originally Posted by Red Kilt
My major point was that many of the guys who call filipinas all manner of names for being chronic liars also tell the most blatant lies to the girls too. I am bemused by this anomaly and even more amused by the way that it is rationalised away by the same guys when they are challenged about it.
Econotech knew what I was saying when he mentioned the tolerance levels.
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07-26-10 05:56 #3897
Posts: 1685Originally Posted by Carmex
This is getting hilarious. I wonder if the whiners are just out of college or have never had any experience with women. OR. Just assumed that since back home women are screwed up, Asian women will be as they are promoted "obedient, subservient, and never saying no, and always willing to oblige". Forgetting that people are people where-ever they are.
It is just. In Asia, when an Asian screws up, it is bad, but when a westerner screws up, just the tolerance is a bit higher, but that also has a break point.
The classic example I hear from my friends. When an Europeans talks about positions with Asian girls, the girls go "wow, you europeans are so open minded about sex. " and when an Asian guys pips in. With similar comments, the girls go "damn pervert. "
So. The grass is always greener. Doesn't mean anything else.
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07-25-10 21:44 #3896
Posts: 33Lies = mental survival for some
Women are deceivers. In every culture. What do you think make up is? Nothing but deception. Since Eve if you want to get philosophical.
I once challenged a missionary to ask his good wife if women deceive men. Her answer? "well if the men allow themselves to be deceived" Se how they twist their didhonesty to mak it our fault? Which meets my second point. Women are far better verbal creatures. They manipulate and manage and hurt men with words.
When a man sometimes finally retaliates physically. He wasn't the aggressor or the initiator. He is still WRONG, but often not the initiator.
I guarantee – they will see past your bald faced lies. And choose to ignore it, for their own benefit.
The fun part is when you call their bs: New shoes dear? Her" no I've had them for ages " Him " lucky that they are the new seasons colors" haha
Its a game A sport. Find one who is 100% straight and no natter how ugly marry her Or send her to me and I will
From a movie I like: Man us the head of the house- but the woman is the neck: and she can turn the head anyway she likes.
Pinays lie as a way of surviving. They live in large families and in close housing there is no privacy. Plus they are free Islander like people oppressed by old Spanish Catholic moralities. SO the ONLY way to survive, to stay sane, is to lie, lie alone. Lie in teams. I have seen it done as a way of life in 3 Filipino families and am convinced it's the norm.
Pretending to ignore the lie. Also seems to be part of how the game is played. I hate it.
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07-25-10 17:43 #3895
Posts: 243Words for thought
Well as long as we are on the subject, I thought I would add. My live in GF here in Asia was a blonde from Texas with gigantic titties. When she would ask me questions like, "do you love me?", "how does this dress look?", "What do you think about ...", I would always reply with a truthful answer.
Finally she said to me one day, "We are going to have to work on your responses". She then went on to tell me, when a woman says this, you say this. Thus, I surmised it really did not matter at all what my opinion was, she was looking for a conditioned response, i.e. you are beautiful, not fat, I love you dearly, and you are the only one for me ever!
I wonder if this is what transcends all women, meaning, if you are talking to a bar girl then she has conditioned responses to questions that she thinks you want to hear that will make you happy. It only goes to reason. And the inverse might also be true, meaning if she is asking you questions then you are providing answers that you think she will want to hear. Is this lying outright? I am not sure. My guess is we should quantify what is exactly lying or not.
We are on vacation correct? So do you really want to hear, "I have three kids at home and support my Filipino husbands' drinking, cockfighting, and yaba addiction by fucking various foreign men throughout the month. Oh yea, and your number 35 this month so just short of fucking my ear I hope you don't get VD, warts, or Chlamydia because I was 'sick' the day I was supposed to go to hygiene".
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07-25-10 10:49 #3894
Posts: 33A culture of lies
Women are deceivers. In every culture. What do you think make up is? Nothing but deception Since Eve if you want to get philosophical.
I once challenged a missionary to ask his good wife is women deceive men. Her answer? "well if the men allow themselves to be deceived" Which meets my second point. Women are far better verbal creatures. They manipulate and manage and hurt men with words.
When a man sometimes finally retaliates physically. He wasn't the aggressor or the initiator. He is still WRONG, but often not the initiator.
I guarantee – they will see past your bald faced lies. And choose to ignore it, for their own benefit.
The fun part is when you call they bs: New shoes dear? Her" no I've had them for ages " Him " good that they are the new seasons colors" haha
Its a game A sport. Find one who is 100% straight and no natter how ugly marry her Or send her to me and I will
From a movie I like: Man u\is the head of the house- but the woman is the neck: and she can turn the head anyway she likes.
Pinays lie as a way of surviving. They live in large families and in close housing there is no privacy. Plus they are free Islander like people oppressed by old Spanish Catholic moralities. SO the ONLY way to survive, to stay sane, is to lie, lie alone. Lie in teams. I have seen it done as a way of life in 3 Filipino families and am convinced it's the norm.
Pretending to ignore the lie. Also seems to be part of how the game is played. I hate it.
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07-25-10 08:13 #3893
Posts: 1685Originally Posted by Red Kilt
I was wondering why the thread degenerated into a load of name calling about filipinas. And the culture and what not. Till you enlightened the masses.
Damn, I wonder why people over analyse such stuff.
If you are looking for a wife. Look for a wife in nicer places. Darker places such as bars only have people who have dark intentions. Either knowingly or unknowingly (in the knowingly category. They plan to make money. In the unknowingly category. They are made to make money by their circumstances / family /bf etc.)
If you are looking for a screw. Just do it and get over it.
If you are looking for a long term relationship. Don't look for it in the bars. Now can you guys also reveal how many women in the west marry guys for the money and then call it quits? You could add in the load of sham marriages almost everywhere.
For some, it is filipinas ripping them, for Singaporeans, it is China girls ripping them, for Malaysians, it is Indonesian girls ripping them. So. It is everywhere.
Just pay the girl to leave, and move on.
If you are psycho analysing stuff, let me quote this little joke, that applies for all women.
A man was walking along the beach in california, and saw a bottle. Rubbed it and as expected a genie popped up. The genie said he could ask for 3 wishes. The guy says "I want a million dollar in my bank account" and the genie says "done"
Then the guy says "and a beachfront property in florida, with a mini golf course and private marina". And the genie says "done
Then the guy says "I want to go to hawaii, but I am scared of flying. Can you build a highway from west coast to hawaii? " the genie says "no can do, it is thousands of miles away over the sea. Ask something else"
Then the guy says "ok, then can you tell me how to read the mind of a woman? "
The genie says "errr. The highway, you want it four lane or six lane? "
Get the drift?
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07-25-10 07:43 #3892
Posts: 3230Doesn't everyone tell lies?
I am amused by the number of guys who visit either AC or other monger destinations who continually criticize filipinas as being liars and cheats and thieves etc.
How many of these same guys tell the girls that they are not married (when they are); divorced (when they are not) don't have kids (when they do), looking for a possible pinay wife (when they are not), plan to settle here (when they aren't and cannot anyway) and so on?
I know 2 guys whose whole life here is described to women as the complete opposite of the truth. When I go out with one of these guys he relies on me to go along with his charade and not "blow his bullshit stories". Yet he is one of the same people who uses the old corny "if her lips are moving then she is lying" line.
He doesn't see the hypocrisy when I challenge him about this. He says it is "different".
I am not suggesting that we have to divulge everything about ourselves to the girls but I do wonder about telling them absolute bullshit lies. I tend to fall into the category of not telling them anything rather than telling them straight out lies. I don't subscribe to the theory that says "they tell me lies so I will lie in return".
Just wondering if any readers are the same as my mate. That is, you think pinays are liars but it's OK to tell them a heap of lies about yourself too.
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07-25-10 05:51 #3891
Posts: 3359Originally Posted by Vaughnyb1
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07-25-10 02:40 #3890
Posts: 522Originally Posted by Vaughnyb1
As I said, Thai women are habitual liars, it is part of their culture, you are a falang and when you are in their country it is within their right as a Thai citizen to lie, cheat and exploit you and every other Thai is obligated to help out vice versa, they even have a saying in their native toungue that says basically "Thai shall help Thai" that is a code for a pending rip off. Viets I've also noticed are practised liars.
One thing I've noticed about Filipina's (non bar girls and such) is they tend to exaggerate, this isn't considered lying but sort of a cultural thing. For instance if you buy her a P5000 watch for a present she will brag and show it off to her friends and tell them you paid P10,000 for it. Stuff like that.
SpamHog
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07-25-10 01:50 #3889
Posts: 4050Originally Posted by Cunning Stunt
GE
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07-24-10 20:39 #3888
Posts: 3003The Filipino Psyche
Originally Posted by GoodEnough
The truth is that the Philippine people (and Filipinas in particular) are not really human but are extraterrestrials landed here long ago from the distant planet Fuckwit. They are a chameleon people who assume the mantle of normality so that they can blend in and copy the mores and characteristics of the natives of the many lands in which they inhabit. But as a Vulcan is exposed by their inability to emote, the Filipino is given away every time by their lack of coherent and logical thought and their tendency to constantly fill cardboard boxes with old clothes/useless junk to send to their relatives back home:).
Only kidding but the truth is that if you fight the illogical and annoying currents that represents daily life in the Philippines, you will surely lose your marbles. Much more sensible to go with the flow.
I know but I'm probably guilty of cultural arrogance!
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07-24-10 19:09 #3887
Posts: 29Originally Posted by Vaughnyb1
You know, what goes around comes around. Trust goes both ways, in any culture. I see a lot of guys expecting just what you said, "truth from my partner at all times" while cheating behind the girl's back at every possible opportunity. IMHO that doesn't go together well. If a Filipina girl has had experience with a foreigner chances are more often than not he was just like that, f*cking around and when she complains dumping her and moving on to the next (a popular board advice by the way).
I know (just a few) regular educated girls who will not take the Asian culture of keeping face too much further than the Western concept of white lies (a little maybe) especially in dealing with close friends.
Your chances in having a bargirl like that are probably zero just like the chances of a bargirl to domesticate a foreign monger customer into a faithful husband are zero. With regular girls it's just like everywhere else. Really good people are rare, finding them requires time, effort and commitment on your part and you are still not guaranteed to find them.
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07-24-10 19:06 #3886
Posts: 4050Originally Posted by Carmex
What I really have difficulty understanding is the obvious anger that I see displayed here every day. Guys spend thousands of dollars to come here on vacations, and it seems to me self-defeating at best to spend those precious vacation days in perpetual inner turmoil.
The trick to survival here--as it is everywhere--is to enjoy the good things that the country has to offer, and to accept the fact that you cannot change that which bothers you, so just let them slide.
GE
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07-24-10 17:26 #3885
Posts: 90Originally Posted by Houziwang
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07-24-10 17:24 #3884
Posts: 165Originally Posted by Vaughnyb1