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[WestCoast1]

Way overpriced IMHO, Lazada has better deals.

Well, sunny beaches. Nice work Beavis.

https://www.lazada.com.ph/catalog/?s...20100%20mg_1_1

[Beavis]

I have no idea how trustworthy the site is, you can order COD to be safe that at least you get something. I just saw it in the CNN Philippine web site as an article on safe and private family planning. Since I use Cialis, and right now they do not have that or a generic I will have to wait to see if they end up offering that.

Don't forget to bring a pill cutter if you are going to spread the pills out over a month. You may have trouble finding one here. I know Amazon sells lots of them.

Way overpriced IMHO, Lazada has better deals.

[Kabul Guy]

KG you are the best!

760 php (400 MG enough for 1 month daily use) + 100 php (2-3 days shipping) + 100 php (Doctor consultation fee) = 960 php TOTAL.

I will order it closer to my Manila flight so I can get it the day I will arrive.

One question, how trustworthy is this website?

Have you purchase anything from there?

I'm planning to pay with Paypal so I guess my payment will be secure this way.

I have no idea how trustworthy the site is, you can order COD to be safe that at least you get something. I just saw it in the CNN Philippine web site as an article on safe and private family planning. Since I use Cialis, and right now they do not have that or a generic I will have to wait to see if they end up offering that.

Don't forget to bring a pill cutter if you are going to spread the pills out over a month. You may have trouble finding one here. I know Amazon sells lots of them.

[Steve Nash]

I came across this site, https://www.dima.ph/ it is an on line reproductive health site. While it mostly sells condoms and birth control pills it has a generic Viagra pill for 4 pills 400 p 50 MG, 100 MG 4 pills 760 p.

You order on line for home delivery, they say one to two days in Metro Manila.

Delivery fee and "doctor consultation" fee extra.

KG you are the best!

760 php (400 MG enough for 1 month daily use) + 100 php (2-3 days shipping) + 100 php (Doctor consultation fee) = 960 php TOTAL.

I will order it closer to my Manila flight so I can get it the day I will arrive.

One question, how trustworthy is this website?

Have you purchase anything from there?

I'm planning to pay with Paypal so I guess my payment will be secure this way.

[Kabul Guy]

I came across this site, https://www.dima.ph/ it is an on line reproductive health site. While it mostly sells condoms and birth control pills it has a generic Viagra pill for 4 pills 400 p 50 MG, 100 MG 4 pills 760 p.

You order on line for home delivery, they say one to two days in Metro Manila.

Delivery fee and "doctor consultation" fee extra.

[BrizLad]

"Barangays with no virus case for 2 months will get P100,000 Mayor Isko".

As if that's not going straight into the barangay's captain family pocket.

[Member #4794]

Don't Test, Don't Tell. Problem solved?. Because ignoring the problem always works right?

Looks like they are paying people to NOT have covid. Genius plan. Looks like they have this under control.

"Barangays with no virus case for 2 months will get P100,000 – Mayor Isko".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtLx9SnK6SI

[Fastpiston]

Until there is a miracle cure, or a herd immunity of some type, it will be like this (mandated quarantine of foreigners -- some countries repatriating their own citizens are quarantining them also, including Phils). The host country will require the foreigner to agree in advance to a quarantine, to pay for his quarantine, and to pay for any other related expenses prior to departing the country. Without the miracle cure / vaccine or other immunity, this could last for years. Smile.

I must say that a lot of people are not thinking this through. It is extremely unlikely a QUALITY vaccine will be available to all of us in 2020. The virus will stay and many more will be infected. I do not think the herd approach will be achieved in 1-2 years. However, I am very optimistic! The reason is governments and the population will gradually realize that the virus is very contagious but has a very low death rate. In Philippines the total deaths so far has been 3000 out of a population of 120 million. That 3000 was almost certainly mainly old, frail or people with serious secondary health issues. Next year people will see that there has been a massive overreaction to the virus and sanity will prevail and things will normalize. Unfortunately, in the interim many businesses will go bust and it will take time for many to overcome their fear and trauma.

[Bushes]

Well. Anyone notice the news that over a quarter of New Delhi residents are suspected to have been infected with Covid19? That is one country that is actively practicing "don't test don't tell". As well as forcing a mass migration of poor workers during the beginning of the epidemic. Images of officials hosing the trapped and stranded victims.

Well, we have another great advice from the US, in this case the CDC (centers for disease control). The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention attempted Thursday to clarify controversial coronavirus testing guidelines published Monday that said people with no symptoms "do not necessarily need a test" even if they were exposed to an infected person.

With all these great advice and examples from the US, UK, and others, everyone will probably get infected once. So PI will have no reason to remain shut. The urge to make money is stronger than urge of the little head.

[Member #4698]

My daughter teaches autistic kids in a state near yours. They have not resisted their Governor's directive for face-to-face instruction. The school district is providing masks for teachers and kids, but they will not mandate wearing them. Teachers would like to do what retail businesses and doctors' offices are doing, putting up plexiglass shields around their work stations, but there is no budget for it. So the only way they'll get plexiglass is if they pay for it themselves. On teachers' salaries, in addition to the money they already spend out of pocket to provide things the school budget doesn't pay for Kleenex, pens and pencils, snacks, etc. -- and that poor kids' families can't afford. Seems like teachers ought to have some freedom rights in this equation too.

I empathize with your daughter's situation. I also feel for the waitresses and grocery store employees among many others that work on the front lines with the public. We live in trying times, but concerning your daughter, you will have to show me where & in what states and counties teachers will be forced to teach in the classroom against their will or face getting fired.

Check out this link to ClickOrlando.com dated August 24th concerning the ruling from a Florida Judge on Mandatory School Openings. The bottom line of this decision is no mandatory anything and no teacher will lose his or her job for refusing to enter a classroom for valid health reasons. I don't know in which state your daughter resides, but I think she will likely wind up with the same freedom as Florida teachers. I could be wrong. If so, let me know. But the Florida case is an example of how issues are decided in a democratic country (small d). There are 3 independent branches of government that act as checks and balances on each other to prevent abuse of power from any particular branch. The President or Governor, the Legislature, and the Judiciary. But you know that. I am just saying it out loud.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/lo...should-reopen/

But now, let's take a look at the flip side of this coin where in a different state a different Governor mandated the closing of all fitness centers against the wishes of the owners, the work staff and the customers. A judge ruled that this mandatory closing was unconstitutional too, but then an appellate court overturned that ruling. One owner has refused to close his place. The case will probably end up in the Supreme Court unless the Governor of this state relents which is highly unlikely considering her strong political bias. The owners will most likely prevail in the long run, but at what cost? Their freedom and that of their staff and customers has been infringed upon. IMHO. Furthermore, this small business may go out of business while waiting for justice. So, the situation has become a hot political issue in the state and will have an affect on how the state votes in the upcoming election. It will be very interesting to see which side wins.

Note: We should probably take this discussion somewhere else if we want to continue it. The American Politics thread is the one set aside by Admin. We (myself most definitely included) have drifted more than a few clicks from Philippine General Info.

[WestCoast1]

Still 14 day quarantine. Bummer. I miss the pre COVID-19 days when you just went though customs and start texting and cutie at hotel when you get there. I guess that is still a ways off. Its a start, I guess.

Until there is a miracle cure, or a herd immunity of some type, it will be like this (mandated quarantine of foreigners -- some countries repatriating their own citizens are quarantining them also, including Phils). The host country will require the foreigner to agree in advance to a quarantine, to pay for his quarantine, and to pay for any other related expenses prior to departing the country. Without the miracle cure / vaccine or other immunity, this could last for years. Smile.

[Soapy Smith]

BTW, I live in Florida, which is one of the 6 states that is not initially on the list of states allowed into CR in September. Yeah, we have pretty high Corona numbers and it amazes me frankly, but the vast majority of Floridians know how to take care of themselves and stay healthy. We don't want the government to tell us what we have to do. We like out freedom here.

Maybe it depends what your definition of "freedom" is. At one extreme some libertarians think that freedom means no constraints on behavior, "you should be able to do whatever you want. " From another perspective individual freedom ends at the tip of the other guy's nose, and it's government's role to balance out various interests. Did I hear that a judge in Florida recently ruled that the Governor cannot compel schools to open up face-to-face? I suppose the judge's rationale may have been that only local school districts have that authority.

An alternative argument could be that other families, teachers, janitors, lunchroom staff, bus drivers, and administrators have a right not to be forced into covid spreader contexts. Children lack the discipline to not congregate, yell, cough and sneeze, and rub up against each other. There's one guy who keeps insisting that kids are "practically immune. " Not true. Kids' symptoms are less severe, but they are often asymptomatic spreaders. "Wow, let's truck some of this stuff home to grandma. ".

My daughter teaches autistic kids in a state near yours. They have not resisted their Governor's directive for face-to-face instruction. The school district is providing masks for teachers and kids, but they will not mandate wearing them. Teachers would like to do what retail businesses and doctors' offices are doing, putting up plexiglass shields around their work stations, but there is no budget for it. So the only way they'll get plexiglass is if they pay for it themselves. On teachers' salaries, in addition to the money they already spend out of pocket to provide things the school budget doesn't pay for – Kleenex, pens and pencils, snacks, etc. -- and that poor kids' families can't afford. Seems like teachers ought to have some freedom rights in this equation too.

[SaltyPete]

Why do you say hate Salty? Did you read the news and see the statistics or do you inhabit a different world where stats and facts are never believed.

Sadly it is fact read the news as it is all there and I state the basics facts unlike many world leaders who seem to think the public are stupid.

Read the news Salty as this gives an insight into the world. I know for a fact that you can't travel to the Philippines as a monger yet as no tourist visas so far, that USA tourists have been dobbed in by others as they don't obey self ISO rules.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/w...uarantine.html

https://www.thejournal.ie/bars-resta...48431-Jul2020/

Read those and then Google for others Salty LOL as most places in the world don't allow USA citizens to visit their countries and why should they? Now if we have a vaccine that works then things change but until then I will only see my family in the USA using Skype etc sadly.

I have family in the USA (southern states) some of whom are old / frail and high risk so I read the news and clearly understand that while I would like to go see them I can't and would not risk travel to a country that clearly has no idea how to handle a pandemic.

Like I said in my OP, Delta's flights will be contingent on the Philippines (and other countries) opening up. Perhaps I should have said "letting in foreigners, or issuing Visas" to be more clear. The "lol" at the end of your second paragraph led me to believe you were laughing at the misfortune of others. I see now it was about the US Tourist in Ireland.

Of course I believe in facts; they are as ugly as the nose on my face. Here are some more. US doesn't allow citizens of most other countries to visit. Most other countries don't allow citizens of most other countries to visit. The WHO says masks are useless. No, they protect you. No, they protect others from you. The media says Hydroxychloroquine cures! No, it kills! The CDC says that a 14-day travel quarantine is essential. That is, until yesterday.

The motto for 2020 should be "Who the Fuck Knows!" But I agree that the current US Government (both sides of the aisle) has failed the country in this crisis. What I wouldn't give for an Eisenhower, someone with strong leadership, who prioritizes country over party, and has the will and ability to unite. But all that we will get is a Trump or a Biden. Maybe we get what we deserve.

I hope your family stays healthy.

[Locamotive]

An early start. Thailand planning a small tourist re-opening.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...vid/index.html

Still 14 day quarantine. Bummer. I miss the pre COVID-19 days when you just went though customs and start texting and cutie at hotel when you get there. I guess that is still a ways off. Its a start, I guess.

[Bushes]

Well. Anyone notice the news that over a quarter of New Delhi residents are suspected to have been infected with Covid19? That is one country that is actively practicing "don't test don't tell". As well as forcing a mass migration of poor workers during the beginning of the epidemic. Images of officials hosing the trapped and stranded victims.

Not funny at all. In Canada we are barely keeping a lid on the virus. Barely. So many are worried about their rights on things like wearing a mask or holding large parties that the virus keeps percolating just below the surface here. Governors in the northern US states have been putting pressure on the Canadian Government to reopen the Canadian boarders. Thankfully to date this has been rejected. Canadians recognize that the last thing Canadians want is to have that stew circulated and brought across our boarders to Canada in greater numbers.

Americans are known for their arrogance of flouting the law once they gain entry to Canada. Right now, one of the few reasons they are allowed into Canada without quarantine is to drive directly to Alaska and even then they are encouraged to not use hotels and use drive through restaurants only. Recently it has been found that Americans have been using their stated direct trips to take a leisurely sightseeing side trips even stopping in our National Parks. It has become a significant enough problem that the R.C.M.P have started charging Americans with fines in the range of $2,500. And yes Canadians are calling the police when they see American licence plates where they ought not be seen. And yes Canadian authorities are following up..