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[Breadman]

You've heard all of the horror stories of Filipinas (or any Asian nationality) getting one over on the old foreigner in love. Well here's another. I chatted this girl a few years ago, never went anywhere but I'd still see her profile on facebook and tiktok so we'd chat every so often. After a lengthy absense on my part I chat her and find out she's got engaged online. Hasn't met him in many many months but will 'stay loyal to him'. Is that a new house in your tiktok I wonder?. Years go by and finally this Filipina has this old guy in her tiktoks and on facebook. Well good for them I'm thinking, she's got a great looking body and he's getting on in his years so maybe they are happy.

Then I see this on my facebook "can we talk? I thought it was a salesman, been getting spammed with friend requests. Until I realized it was the face of the girl with the guy. So I replied sure we can chat. And then the horror stories comes out. He built her a house, ran out of money while here and she got upset and broke things off. Family dumped him at the airport without a word being said, luggage kicked to the pavement. But he's still using those awful words you hate to hear like "she's a good girl", " we are getting married in 3 months", "I really love her". But the reality hasn't set in yet for him. She's gone "until he comes back with more money". How much money has he spent so far you ask? He even said 'she'd give me back the house if I asked'. Still in denial. Anyone want to take a guess? I'll make it mulitple choice.

A. 600 k pesos.

Be. 2 million pesos.

See. 6 million pesos.

The. 12 million pesos.

[Jingo10]

Caveat: This is not necessarily regarding Phils, but its good discussion of the SB industry, which has been mentioned here before.

Sugar babby confessions:

Third caveat: Giving your SB expensive gifts / services might make her (and you) think that you're not a John and she's not a hoar. So ya, try that.

Some guys want company, plenty of reports here about guts taking girls on trips which I understand is slightly different. But SDs by definition are older guys.

But there's a new phenomenon with the digital nomads, earning western money living in Phils. Let's call them sugar mads for now. These young guys walk around the malls with pyt's buying things for them. These guys possibly have more disposable income than retirees. So maybe this type of relationship will eventually replace the SDs.

[WestCoast1]

Caveat: This is not necessarily regarding Phils, but its good discussion of the SB industry, which has been mentioned here before.

Sugar babby confessions:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/21-s...091602556.html

My fav:

"I've been a sugar baby for close to five years. I met my first sugar daddy on Tinder, and we've been happily together ever since. We've gone on trips to South America and Europe, eaten at luxury / Michelin-starred restaurants, and stayed at luxury hotels / spa resorts. I've received designer bags (mostly Gucci and Chanel), had my rent paid, received a monthly allowance, and been given many tech gifts (gaming desktop, gaming monitor, printer for university, iPad Pro (and) pen, Apple watch, iPhones for my sister and I, Nintendo Switch, laptops for my sister and I, etc.). For one of my birthday presents, I received liposuction surgery, and he paid the full $8,000 amount! I actually got the iPad Pro and pen from another sugar daddy on our second date, which blew my mind quite honestly. ".

Second caveat: You might have to Lipo your SB.

Third caveat: Giving your SB expensive gifts / services might make her (and you) think that you're not a John and she's not a hoar. So ya, try that.

[KbNagar]

Most Asians (Koreans included) treat prostitutes like, well, prostitutes. They don't take them to malls and walk hand in hand with them. They don't make them pretend girlfriends. They pay them for the night, take them to their rooms, fuck them and send them back. Not 100% of course but by and large that's the model. Westerners like the illusion (delusion?) of romance with the bar girls. Not judging, I've been guilty of it too. Though more recently I am more and more a fan of the point click fuck pay leave protocol. Can't remember the last time I had a girl stay overnight. ID much rather sleep alone and well.

I used to be pay and fuck guy. Its probably because of my age that I have started liking company if I find a girl whom I click (and if I know I may try her a few times). Walking around, having coffee or lunch helps me relax since I know I can start my show whenever I want as opposed to being time bounded. Sometimes I get high in mornings like 6 or 8 AM or at times around 2 PM. At 1 AM, my junior would be sleepy and may need more time.

[Expat American]

The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.

Most Asians (Koreans included) treat prostitutes like, well, prostitutes. They don't take them to malls and walk hand in hand with them. They don't make them pretend girlfriends. They pay them for the night, take them to their rooms, fuck them and send them back. Not 100% of course but by and large that's the model. Westerners like the illusion (delusion?) of romance with the bar girls. Not judging, I've been guilty of it too. Though more recently I am more and more a fan of the point click fuck pay leave protocol. Can't remember the last time I had a girl stay overnight. ID much rather sleep alone and well.

[Goferring]

Anyone who frequents Facebook would be aware of the proliferation of short video clip "reels". Maybe because I actually watched some, I now get inundated by views of walking streets in BKK and Pattaya, etc; by comparison there are very few from Phils. The LBs aside, the girl quality in Thailand seems much better than the Phils. If I was planning on mongering, I know where I'd prefer to be going.

FB Protip #1: Don't ask me how I know but never every lok at anything related to Taylor Swift. You will never escape the recommendations etc again. 😃.

Its been said many times that any logical assessment has LOS beating PI on looks, numbers, accommodation, food etc. The list goes on. Really the only compensation is English, BBFS and GFE. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that most PI visitors come here due to nostalgia or familiarity rather than a logical assessment of alternatives. Many new guys are now choosing LOS, PHN or even the new options, VND, Jakarta etc.

Of course many old hands are sticking with PH but moving away from the traditional MNL, AC, CEB and finding the joys of the provinces or areas less travelled.

Enjoy. G.

[AussieGaigin]

Anyone who frequents Facebook would be aware of the proliferation of short video clip "reels". Maybe because I actually watched some, I now get inundated by views of walking streets in BKK and Pattaya, etc; by comparison there are very few from Phils. The LBs aside, the girl quality in Thailand seems much better than the Phils. If I was planning on mongering, I know where I'd prefer to be going.

[AggieDad1]

I did a comparison about a year ago, between Thailand and Phils each recuperating from Covid with tourist numbers. I think Thailand's pre-covid tourist count was 25-30 million around 2019. After their covid re-start they were at about half that, and now back up to their pre-covid numbers of 27 million last year (picture).

This is in contrast to Phils, which had about 5 million in 2022 (down from about 9 million pre-covid), and little or no change last year.

An interesting comparison between current Phils and Thai numbers: Phils #1 inbounds are Koreans (by far). Checking the article (pic), Thailand visitors are Malaysian, Chinese, Singaporean, and Indian (Koreans further down the list). Thailand tourism has recuperated well without much Korean help; Philippines is very dependent on it. What makes Phils more desirable than Thailand to Koreans?

https://www.nationthailand.com/thail...urism/40034268

One thing is Thailand has eased some visa requirements to get tourists back and have been promoting tourism from surrounding countries. Also Thailand was quicker to drop covid rules than the Phills. I may have missed it but have not seen much effort from the Phills into promotion.

[WestCoast1]

The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.

I did a comparison about a year ago, between Thailand and Phils each recuperating from Covid with tourist numbers. I think Thailand's pre-covid tourist count was 25-30 million around 2019. After their covid re-start they were at about half that, and now back up to their pre-covid numbers of 27 million last year (picture).

This is in contrast to Phils, which had about 5 million in 2022 (down from about 9 million pre-covid), and little or no change last year.

An interesting comparison between current Phils and Thai numbers: Phils #1 inbounds are Koreans (by far). Checking the article (pic), Thailand visitors are Malaysian, Chinese, Singaporean, and Indian (Koreans further down the list). Thailand tourism has recuperated well without much Korean help; Philippines is very dependent on it. What makes Phils more desirable than Thailand to Koreans?

https://www.nationthailand.com/thail...urism/40034268

[Jingo10]

Well, more than 24 hours with no posts in the Phils threads. Radio silence.

Moving on (or looking back). From the Phils Tourism Dept website.

First pic. Total foreign Immigration numbers for last year, 5. 4 million inbounds. Subtracting 400,000 OFW, that leaves 5 million foreigners.

S Koreans (1), USA (2), Aust (4), China (5), Great Britain (8).

Second pic. Total inbound in the first quarter of this year: 1,400,000. Possibly need to subract OFW, then extrapolate for the year. About the same pace as last year. Still down from the 8-9 million in 2019.

The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.

[WestCoast1]

Well, more than 24 hours with no posts in the Phils threads. Radio silence.

Moving on (or looking back). From the Phils Tourism Dept website.

First pic. Total foreign Immigration numbers for last year, 5. 4 million inbounds. Subtracting 400,000 OFW, that leaves 5 million foreigners.

S Koreans (1), USA (2), Aust (4), China (5), Great Britain (8).

Second pic. Total inbound in the first quarter of this year: 1,400,000. Possibly need to subract OFW, then extrapolate for the year. About the same pace as last year. Still down from the 8-9 million in 2019.

http://www.tourism.gov.ph/files/2024...les%20 merged) Pdf.

www.tourism.gov.ph

[PhilJoy]

Recommended destination for 7-10 days?

I'm living in Thailand and have 7-10 days for a vacation left. What would be your recommended destination (s) based on the following criteria:

O Relaxed beach destination.

O Cute girls available for GFE.

O Relatively safe and developed infrastructure (yes yes, I know it's the Phils).

O Not too much traveling max 2-3 destinations.

Hi Amnesia,

From my experience Bantayan in Cebu has been the most relaxed beach destination but you may have to line up a girl in Cebu City first.

It also takes some effort to get there but it's well worth it.

Boracay is very touristy and although being quite nice, I think it doesn't live up to the hype. Having said that, I managed to find some really nice freelancers there for the GFE.

Sabang has a good little scene happening but you have to walk around to the quieter Laguna Beach to actually see a beach.

It's more geared to the bar scene as opposed to the GFE for a week, but once you have some contact with the locals it works out well.

The good thing is it's relatively easy to get to from Manila with a two. Three hour bus / road trip and then a fastcraft trip from the port at Batangas.

Never had problems with safety in any of these places.

Phil.

[Jarango]

Social media keeps giving me there great deals from travel agents to fly to Manila eg £399 ex London with Malaysia Airlines. These ads get hundreds of replies: how much ex Frankfurt, Paris etc and the answer is always to call the travel agent. Doing skyscanner or google searches, Malaysia Airways, to take this example, offer prices nowhere near that level but the agents get lots of enquiries. Due in part to thee being a large Pinay ex pat community, many of whom would like to holiday at home at a reasonable price.

I knew a Viet guy who had cheap prices to Hanoi and HCM the Viets would avail of but these agents seem a right scam. Air China seems to be the cheapest (Saudi is problematic because of connections). Are these ads the old case of if it is too good to be true it is a scam or am I too cynical? Anyone got any tips on cheap prices?

[PIpimp]

Let me tell you Age and grumpiness is catching up with me. Do not tolerate any kind of games which I used to play with girls. Do not have the patience anymore. One wrong move on their part I block them. I know this is not the right way of mongering but having had many pretty girls and best sex all over the world I am happy to be myself spending time alone. Gone are the days I will not sleep alone on my travels. Having let out steam I enjoyed my trip.

Ho Chi Minh City is fantastic and cheap. Lots of sightseeing and cheap food and massages. You can get a HJ in most places. Did not hang around in too many bars. Seafood is fresh and excellent. Cheap as well. There are many pretty girls but high end. There are pimps who have van full of pretty girls who try to entice you. But although girls are pretty asking price for LT is $400 US. Declined. Met an ugly Korean gurl in my tour group who wanted to have dinner with me. She said she works in a Korean company and took my your on Sunday. I took her WhatsApp number but did not call. Whole day of Meh Kong delta tour wore me out. Got a nice 2 hour nassage instead.

KL is a nice city with lots of tourists. Was looking for an Indian provider but could not find. Asked an Indian and he said online only. KLCC is neat clean and modern. There are plenty of Thai massage places and got a HJ.

Singapore has become much more modern since the last time I visited. Public transit is the best. Had fun with a domestic whole day which was a highlight of the trip. Liked the casino and free entry to foreigners. Just take your passport and show the e mail you got from immigration. Locals have to pay yearly 3000 Singapore dollars to enter. Not fair I thought. Hawker places did not entice me that much about food. Ho Chi Minh is best.

Cebu has not changed much. My plan to have few online girls backfired. I would not tolerate sending money for transportation and service ST or outrageous demands. Like I said I have no patience anymore. Had to fall back on my previous providers. They are older but still good and clean.

Manila has become more chaotic with traffic. They are re remodeling my favorite hotel new world. Had excellent middle eastern food near LA cafe. Popped in there for a beer but could not stand cigarette smoke. There were some lookers but my previous contact girl was staying with me.

Next trip is to San Jose CR and Jaco after a long time visit.

Enough rambling for now.

Do you if any of those massage shops there do BJ? I lived in Cambodia for 6 months and thinking about moving back and I will hit up Ho Chi Minh.

[Sammon]

Let me tell you Age and grumpiness is catching up with me. Do not tolerate any kind of games which I used to play with girls. Do not have the patience anymore. One wrong move on their part I block them. I know this is not the right way of mongering but having had many pretty girls and best sex all over the world I am happy to be myself spending time alone. Gone are the days I will not sleep alone on my travels. Having let out steam I enjoyed my trip.

Ho Chi Minh City is fantastic and cheap. Lots of sightseeing and cheap food and massages. You can get a HJ in most places. Did not hang around in too many bars. Seafood is fresh and excellent. Cheap as well. There are many pretty girls but high end. There are pimps who have van full of pretty girls who try to entice you. But although girls are pretty asking price for LT is $400 US. Declined. Met an ugly Korean gurl in my tour group who wanted to have dinner with me. She said she works in a Korean company and took my your on Sunday. I took her WhatsApp number but did not call. Whole day of Meh Kong delta tour wore me out. Got a nice 2 hour nassage instead.

KL is a nice city with lots of tourists. Was looking for an Indian provider but could not find. Asked an Indian and he said online only. KLCC is neat clean and modern. There are plenty of Thai massage places and got a HJ.

Singapore has become much more modern since the last time I visited. Public transit is the best. Had fun with a domestic whole day which was a highlight of the trip. Liked the casino and free entry to foreigners. Just take your passport and show the e mail you got from immigration. Locals have to pay yearly 3000 Singapore dollars to enter. Not fair I thought. Hawker places did not entice me that much about food. Ho Chi Minh is best.

Cebu has not changed much. My plan to have few online girls backfired. I would not tolerate sending money for transportation and service ST or outrageous demands. Like I said I have no patience anymore. Had to fall back on my previous providers. They are older but still good and clean.

Manila has become more chaotic with traffic. They are re remodeling my favorite hotel new world. Had excellent middle eastern food near LA cafe. Popped in there for a beer but could not stand cigarette smoke. There were some lookers but my previous contact girl was staying with me.

Next trip is to San Jose CR and Jaco after a long time visit.

Enough rambling for now.