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[Docwiltro]

Let's look at a simpler explanation of comparing the vaccinated vs. The unvaccinated. This graph is from the state of Indiana for this past year. I believe you would see a similar result no matter what population was examined. The bottom line is that these vaccines are extremely effective in preventing serious disease and death.

[WestCoast1]

More on hospitalizations and vaccines. Article from the CDC, of 43,000 cases in LOS Angeles County (see first pic):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7034e5.htm

From the article:

During May 1July 25, 2021, among 43,127 SARS-CoV-2 infections in residents of Los Angeles County, California, 10,895 (25.3%) were in fully vaccinated persons, 1,431 (3.3%) were in partially vaccinated persons, and 30,801 (71.4%) were in unvaccinated persons. On July 25, infection and hospitalization rates among unvaccinated persons were 4.9 and 29.2 times, respectively, those in fully vaccinated persons. In July, when the Delta variant was predominant, cycle threshold values were similar for unvaccinated, partially vaccinated, and vaccinated persons.

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Regarding vaccines vs natural Covid infection. Article from the CDC (second pic).

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...rotection.html

From the article:

The study of hundreds of Kentucky residents with previous infections through June 2021 found that those who were unvaccinated had 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with those who were fully vaccinated. The findings suggest that among people who have had COVID-19 previously, getting fully vaccinated provides additional protection against reinfection.

Additionally, a second publication from MMWR shows vaccines prevented COVID-19 related hospitalizations among the highest risk age groups. As cases, hospitalizations, and deaths rise, the data in todays MMWR reinforce that COVID-19 vaccines are the best way to prevent COVID-19.

[WestCoast1]

This is what is written in https://philippines.travel/safetrip.

Should we consider that entry is possible?

But only in the GCQ and MGCQ areas?

Couple of thoughts. I read thru the various requirements for entry on that website (it seems to be a Phils DOT-related site). Yet, no change on the Phils BI website (still not showing any allowance for foreign tourists. Few things could be more confusing than this.

While the website you mentioned discusses MCQ / ECQ travel restrictions, I would remind everyone that these can change in a heartbeat. As an example, a few days ago I reported here that the NCR was going from MECQ (strict) to GCQ (less strict) the following day (as reported in major news outlets here). A few hours later that had changed, NCR was staying in MECQ for another week. Also, depending on then-current Covid numbers in the future, various locations can lock down unexpectedly.

The website speaks to inter-city or point-to-point travel requirements. These can also change overnight. Planning Manila and AC? Manila and Cebu? One city only?

Also when I searched 'Philippines Department of Tourism', I got 3 different websites. How can there be 3 websites for one agency?

http://tourism.gov.ph/general_information.aspx
https://beta.tourism.gov.ph/
http://www.experiencephilippines.org

If anyone gets more intel, please report here.

[Albert9989]

This is what is written in https://philippines.travel/safetrip.

Should we consider that entry is possible?

But only in the GCQ and MGCQ areas?

This is the regulation for entries: https://iatf.doh.gov.ph/wp-content/u...-136-B-RRD.pdf.

Whereas, IATF Resolution No. 123-see (s. 2021) issued on 28 June 2021, superseded.

By IATF Resolution No. 128-A (s. 2021) provided for the governing guidelines of inbound.

International travel to any port of the Philippines of all individuals fully vaccinated in the.

Philippines regardless of travel history, and those vaccinated abroad who stayed exclusively in.

"Green" countries / jurisdictions in the past fourteen days immediately preceding arrival — with.

"Green" countries / jurisdictions being those classified by the Department of Health (DOH) as.

"Low Risk" countries based on a set incidence rate.

So for vaccinated people abroad, they are authorized to enter only if they stayed in the green countries for the past 14 days.

List of green countries:

GREEN list.

American Samoa Anguilla Australia.

Benin Burkina Faso Cameroon.

Cayman Islands Chad China.

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Comoros Republic of the Congo Djibouti.

Equatorial Guinea Falkland Islands (Malvinas) Gabon.

Grenada.

Hong Kong (Special.

Administrative Region of.

China) Hungary.

Mali Federated States of MicronesiaMontserrat.

New Caledonia New Zealand Niger.

Northern Mariana Islands Palau Poland.

Saba Saint Pierre and Miquelon Sierra Leone.

Sint Eustatius Slovakia Taiwan.

[Drbombay]

I had Covid. I didn't run, walk or crawl to any tik tok dancing hospital, though I do know some that did. He has raised over 100 K $ so far with his foul mouth and his sob sob story. Living in a backward country like America, he has to go begging bowl in hand to pay for his wife.

The solution lies in copying the good people of China and Vietnam who understand lockdowns and social responsibility, not the Big Mac lardheads of the USA. It was the anniversary of Ho Chi Minh's untimely death (smoker) a few days ago and the great General Giap would now be 110 if he had not been taken away from us in 2013. Vietnam defeated the USA and it defeated Covid and have plans for recovery (though fatalities are back up) https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/vi...m-4351981.html.

China, meanwhile, seems to be in control. I know people who work there and they said it is steady: Just avoid Yanks.

SE Asia, the Philippines, has been ravaged by the USA. I shudder to think what lies ahead for them.

But, as long as Big Pharma wins, why worry?

Just wait until December and January 2022 when you will see large crowds of Chinese at sporting events telling the world that Beijing will be safe for the Olympics. They are not going to be avoiding any "Yanks" or those who look like them but will be begging for flights to start back flying to bring people in for the games.

[Albert9989]

This is what is written in https://philippines.travel/safetrip.

Should we consider that entry is possible?

But only in the GCQ and MGCQ areas?

[Soapy Smith]

Americans are mortal dangers to the rest of us in Covid as in much else. One only has to see American College kids partying in Florida on their interminable breaks to see what a petri dish the USA in. Kensington Ave in Philly anyone? They and much of the rest of the dumbed down world see vaccinations as a comfort blanket and their inner Nazi comes out, roaring at the rest of us.


The solution lies in copying the good people of China and Vietnam who understand lockdowns and social responsibility, not the Big Mac lardheads of the USA.

China, meanwhile, seems to be in control. I know people who work there and they said it is steady: Just avoid Yanks.

SE Asia, the Philippines, has been ravaged by the USA.

But, as long as Big Pharma wins, why worry?

I am embarrassed at many of the unwise international "interventions" the US has entered into, but damn, somebody in the states must have really stepped on your toes. If the US military was beaten by little old North Vietnam and tribal Afghanistan, why do you see the US as being so all powerful in spreading covid? Have you considered getting some help to figure out why you're so angry?

"Spring break" is not interminable. It occurs specifically in the Spring, in March and April, depending on when various colleges further north let their students out for a week of spring intermission. It may appear interminable from the outside, but a variety of colleges set their spring break dates at different times because their semesters begin at various dates in January and end anywhere from late April to late May.

[Mr Enternational]

I was just expressing surprise the Covid rules that apply to Argentinian millionaires who are central to an event all of Latin America is fixated on do not seem to apply to you. The capture of the four footballers on the field of play was a major world story. In the real world at least.

There you have it. I am a peon and no eyes are on me versus the millions on them. And no matter the millions they have, they are considered the investments of someone with billions.

Give me the money over the fame any day. It was the talk of the world when Justin Beiber was in the fuck house here. I have been countless times and it appears nobody has given a shit yet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...orld-tour.html

[PedroMorales]

I don't watch sports. I am too busy hanging out in the real world. 5 minutes from now I will be looking at bikinis on the beach alongside my honey. But you enjoy watching the guys in shorts running around kicking a ball on TV. Hope your team wins and you are awarded something good from it.

FIFA is a $5 bn industry. Small beans perhaps to you. I was just expressing surprise the Covid rules that apply to Argentinian millionaires who are central to an event all of Latin America is fixated on do not seem to apply to you. The capture of the four footballers on the field of play was a major world story. In the real world at least.

[Mr Enternational]

You obviously don't play English Premier League. The Argentina Brazil game was called off mid game because four of La Albiceleste ply in England. Were you at the game?

I don't watch sports. I am too busy hanging out in the real world. 5 minutes from now I will be looking at bikinis on the beach alongside my honey. But you enjoy watching the guys in shorts running around kicking a ball on TV. Hope your team wins and you are awarded something good from it.

[WestCoast1]

And we gots us a backtrack.

https://www.rappler.com/nation/duter...X6ctP2pEX1JfHQ

From the article:

In a last-minute backtrack, the Philippines' coronavirus task force retained the modified enhanced community quarantine (MECQ) in Metro Manila until September 15, delaying the expected transition of the capital region to a new lockdown system.

"Metro Manila's current risk classification as MECQ shall be maintained until September 15, 2021, or until the pilot (general community quarantine) with alert level system is implemented, whichever comes first," Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque confirmed on Tuesday, September 7.

"Having said this, indoor and al-fresco dine-in services, and personal care services, including beauty salons, beauty parlors, and nail spas shall remain prohibited," he added.

[PedroMorales]

I have been having a better time in this petri dish that is Brazil for the last couple of weeks than I would have being couped up somewhere hoping for the angel of covid to pass by and stay gone forever. Seize the day or sit around waiting for an uncertain future.

You obviously don't play English Premier League. The Argentina Brazil game was called off mid game because four of La Albiceleste ply in England. Were you at the game?

[FuriousGeorge]

This is just simply not true. My best friend runs the ER at a major LA hospital. This friend told me just 2 days ago that essentially EVERYONE they see for covid is unvaccinated. They ask everyone. This is my friend. Who is there every day. This friend has no agenda.

SG, do you have a link or evidence of that info (majority of the hospitalized are double vax)?

[Mr Enternational]

SG, do you have a link or evidence of that info (majority of the hospitalized are double vax)?

I do not know any numbers, but I recently postedin another thread a White House briefing of the CDC director saying the shit is not working in Israel. Nobody seems to pay it any attention though. Also 2 top US FDA officials quit last week because the administration is trying to push a 3rd jab and they are not sure whether or not it will be safe to do so. I managed to find the video. It is from minute 40 to 41.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciVGAP...ndex=12&t=859s

[WestCoast1]

SNIP which is a relief since the majority of the hospitalized are double vax. SNIP

SG, do you have a link or evidence of that info (majority of the hospitalized are double vax)?