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[Amanut]

I used to go to the Philippines regularly. That stopped when my daughter insisted that I go to Vietnam for a trip together with her. I had concerns primarily around language. We quickly learned the Google Translate is your friend. Problem solved. She was a great teacher. She came from Aus. And I from Canada. We met in Hanoi. Over the course of 30 days, we did planes, trains, and automobiles from Hanoi to Saigon and into Cambodia. If your looking for an interesting cultural trip this is a great place to come. I am primarily a dating site guy, but once you know a Vietnamese woman she will offer ideas of where to travel together and have actually been there herself as compared to a Filipina who has just heard of a place and wants to see it. The next time I came back I spent a lot of time on the dating sites. I eventually met a few ladies that were interested in meeting and spending time together. They are more work, but at the same time I found them more attractive and once you have established a report They are enthusiastic open minded lovers.

My thoughts are:

The transportation system in Vietnam is far superior to the Philippines.

Your not paying first world prices in a third world hotel, plus most hotels have a pretty good breakfast included.

The food is far superior to the Philippines. Even street food is spectacular.

Morning iced coffee and chats with other customers watching the streets come alive are enlightening.

Flights are affordable and regular although your taking your chances on being late with VietJET.

The closeness of the beaches makes it more attractive even for a day trip.

Frankly I have never felt I was being scammed in Vietnam unless it was very obvious.

I was going back again in February after I was there in October except for this pesky virus. Hopefully September.

I am finding that with the virus issues and income challenges, more ladies are overtly suggesting a mutual trip with her for fiscal rewards.

Goferring, If you have some specific questions shoot me a PM.

Nut.

[Goferring]

Comparing Phi and Viet is useless for mongering. Firstly the problem is the language. Unless you live there and cultivate friendships you will not get the cream of the crop....
Economy in Vietnam has greatly improved and less and less girls are in prostitution unlike Philippines. In Philippines we have exploding population which works in our favor.

Few years ago I did some business there and had business contacts. They arranged some nice girls. But none would allow BBFS. They would stay LT.

Thanks for that. I guessed that the scene in VND is almost industrial. '000's of serious lookers available on kynu, hot tocs etc conveyor belts but for 45 minutes, with a list of in / exclusions. Normally, I enjoy a much more relaxed session.

Thanks again. G.

[Sammon]

I'm debating whether to extend my post Convid19 trip to Philiipnes or add a side excursion to Vietnam.

I've been to Vietnam before and had a great time but it was over 10 years ago.

So far research has identified:

Philippines has a greater opportunity for BBFS, LT, part timers and I already know my way around, have contacts etc.

Vietnam has generally better looking girls at all price points, copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions, more expensive and less common LT options and it would be something different.

Anyone else care to compare or contrast the two options? Any major points that I may have missed?

Thanks. G.

Comparing Phi and Viet is useless for mongering. Firstly the problem is the language. Unless you live there and cultivate friendships you will not get the cream of the crop. Most good looking girls are taken by Chinese who are entrenched in Vietnam. Yes, there are many.

Entertainment venues and girls but you are not going to Find Philippine warmth and friendship.

Economy in Vietnam has greatly improved and less and less girls are in prostitution unlike Philippines. In Philippines we have exploding population which works in our favor.

Few years ago I did some business there and had business contacts. They arranged some nice girls. But none would allow BBFS. They would stay LT.

[Goferring]

I'm debating whether to extend my post Convid19 trip to Philiipnes or add a side excursion to Vietnam.

I've been to Vietnam before and had a great time but it was over 10 years ago.

So far research has identified:

Philippines has a greater opportunity for BBFS, LT, part timers and I already know my way around, have contacts etc.

Vietnam has generally better looking girls at all price points, copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions, more expensive and less common LT options and it would be something different.

Anyone else care to compare or contrast the two options? Any major points that I may have missed?

Thanks. G.

[Chocha Monger]

June? He will be lucky to get there by November.

Most definitely, the game has changed. The days when mongers boarded a flight, landed in Flipsville, and whipped their cocks out for service are over. It is anyone's guess if the good old days of BBFSCIP on arrival will ever return. Even when flights resume they will be pricey and there may be tighter entry restrictions and quarantine requirements. The Wuhan virus has not fully ravaged the Philippines yet. When the mass burials begin, mongers should expect increasingly draconian measures to fight the outbreak. Mongers creaming in their hands in anticipation of returning to LBFM Paradise should curb their enthusiasm and accept that it is not going to be more fun in the Philippines for quite some time.

[Mr Enternational]

I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June.

June? He will be lucky to get there by November.

[GoodEnough]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the OP won't get in this month as a tourist even if he wants to: no VOAs are being issued to foreign arrivals and most airlines have cancelled inbound flights anyway.

I was scheduled to be there now but I'm expecting delays of several months before its wise and possible.

Enjoy. G.

That's correct, no flights and no visas, but in theory I believe that's supposed to be lifted the end of April. I think most people here are betting on an almost complete lockdown that will last at least through May. There's no reason to be here now as hotels are closed, even Air B&B places aren't accepting anyone, the streets are deserted and all bars (together with most other businesses) are closed. I went off of our property today for the first time in about 10 days to buy some meds, and it was like driving around a ghost town. The condo in which my friend is staying in Davao will not allow anyone in to visit him.

I have a friend who has a condo on Burgos St and he tells me that it too is deserted and nothing is open.

GE.

[Goferring]

I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the OP won't get in this month as a tourist even if he wants to: no VOAs are being issued to foreign arrivals and most airlines have cancelled inbound flights anyway.

I was scheduled to be there now but I'm expecting delays of several months before its wise and possible.

Enjoy. G.

[GoodEnough]

Noooooo.

I was supposed to go last month. Was hoping to take a trip this month.

I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June. The local quarantines keep getting extended and the death rate keeps creeping up, and the government seems serious about keeping the lockdowns in place until the death rate falls dramatically. Testing here is still sparse and public health resources are not abundant, and the government is exercising great caution in lifting restrictions which are getting even tighter in many areas, including Davao where I live.

GE.

[TheTech08]

I am surprised nobody has posted an update.

Philippines has announced an extension of the Extended Community Quarantine (ECQ) until at least April 30.

No flights in or out before that date.

Noooooo.

I was supposed to go last month. Was hoping to take a trip this month.

[Goferring]

Two words Business Class.

Or two other words First Class.

For those who have never sat in the front of the aircraft, it is a completely different world.

Front of the plane is nice but I was thinking seriously about a detour here:

7 dollar pussy.

MC has listed numerous options for fiscal responsibility. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Steve Nash]

Be careful what you wish for as you assume the country will have millions of test kits and be ramped in terms of health care. Are you thinking of the Philippines? LOL.

You will need to self isolate regardless or if you start coughing you could end up in hospital and maybe asked to pay for it.

Silly things like coughing near officials where I am now = jail so think carefully.

But of course you also assume life is back to normal in the Philippines when various news sites are saying Asia is the next major hotspot and the country has yet to start proper testing!

I was talking about my international flight back to Canada on July, not my domestic flight to Cebu or Manila.

In Canada health care is free, and I heard they have hundreds of labs in the country, plus they will start implementing the rapid test at the airports soon, if they haven't already.

But like AussieGaigin said I might had caught the virus (for example in the airplane) and not be detectable yet. So I would have to do the 14 days self-quarantine at home no matter what, got to becareful and make sure, I don't want to infect a family member who will probably pass it to the eldest in the family and that's not good news.

[Wicked Roger]

I have a plan to avoid the 14 days quarantine when I arrive, I will start coughing so I can get the rapid test done on me, hopefully it works.

By July, I'm guessing rapid test will be the norm at the airport and if you have negative it means you don't have it so not need to do the quarantine. Hopefully this is true by July.

I had many plans for this summer in Canada, 2 weddings that one of them was postponed already, the other one still deciding if they will cancel. I had a season pass from wonderland which I guess I will get my money back, a group camping that so far they told me is still on no matter what, but will see. And the regular summer festivals / events I attend and also birthday parties. I love summer in Canada, but I guess this summer won't be the same as other years.

Be careful what you wish for as you assume the country will have millions of test kits and be ramped in terms of health care. Are you thinking of the Philippines? LOL.

You will need to self isolate regardless or if you start coughing you could end up in hospital and maybe asked to pay for it.

Silly things like coughing near officials where I am now = jail so think carefully.

But of course you also assume life is back to normal in the Philippines when various news sites are saying Asia is the next major hotspot and the country has yet to start proper testing!

[Kabul Guy]

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Luckily, I'm a frequent flier with all these airlines so I'm ok with the credits. The only downside is that each one is only redeamable as a single ticket with no cash for any unused portion. As one of the tickets was a mutistop and relatively expensive, I'm actually looking for ways to burn up the credit beyond a regular out and back ticket when things settle down.
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Two words Business Class.

Or two other words First Class.

For those who have never sat in the front of the aircraft, it is a completely different world.

[AussieGaigin]

I have a plan to avoid the 14 days quarantine when I arrive, I will start coughing so I can get the rapid test done on me, hopefully it works.

By July, I'm guessing rapid test will be the norm at the airport and if you have negative it means you don't have it so not need to do the quarantine. Hopefully this is true by July.

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My understanding is that, although you may not be infected or have any symptons, you could still be carrying the virus (which is not detectable). It can take up to 14 days to actually affect you and be detectable, hence the need for the 14 day quarantine, especially if you have come from a high risk area. Here in Australia, people coming from low risk areas are required to self-quarantine for the same 14 days.