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[Chocha Monger]

Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.

There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.

Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.

Charity is good.

You do realize that your sending her money for not asking ironically creates the expectation and the likelihood that she will ask for money in the future. Hence, your generous gift of free cash will corrupt her heart of gold and she will no longer be a sweetie. Most likely, she will turn into one of gold digging mendicants that you dislike. Good intentions sometimes have distasteful consequences.

I am not a big Ayn Rand fan but charity is not always good. In the Philippines, charity is very harmful when practiced without very specific conditions that increases the recipients' self-reliance. Too often giving Filipinas cash just makes beggars of them, as this creates the expectation that foreigners should give handouts from their bottomless pockets. That Western Union remittance may very well lead to the girl paying for a few liters of Red Horse beer, a cartoon of cigarettes, and a room at Sogo where her drunken trike driver boyfriend will fill her with cream pies. She will then begin the New Year as an expectant mother, and ask you for cash to pay for the birth, pampers, and milk, as the trike driver boyfriend has ran off.

Sorry if you find this upsetting but I have seen this kind of thing before, and contributed to it in the past before seeing the unintended train wrecks that resulted. I created my share of monsters. Paying directly for medical attention or job training is good charity. Giving a Pinay cash is bad charity.

Pinays blow cash the same day it hits their hands. This is the real reason they do not have bank accounts. Even if you send her 50,000 pesos, she will blow it within 24 to 48 hours, and she may not buy anything that benefits her over the long term.

[Wicked Roger]

Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.

There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.

Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.

Charity is good.

Nice one ED.

Sometimes I would buy the kettle and rice cooker instead of cash as this is more beneficial. In the past I would take the to the supermarket and fill a basket or two. They choose and invariably is rice and hot dogs, tuna etc. That gesture is small to us but large to them plus of you see her again you will get a good GFE etc and I she has friends and shares you are in clover.

As for 'expenses' add the list fees for exams, fees for next semester or they owe credit and kid / sister etc can't attend until is paid before Christmas. One old friend got a note from one of his ladies, typed but unsigned supposedly from the landlady asking for pesos (not an insubstantial amount) for building repairs on the place she rents as an advance of the girl's rent. Thus her landlady wanted him to pay for the house repairs and assumed this could be advanced rental for the girl. He can't see how he benefits from this given he won't be back the country for a long time. Logic never strong for some LOL.

[Engine Driver]

Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.

There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.

Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.

Charity is good.

[Engine Driver]

Can you share some more info about TanTAn. Appstore reviews are 3/5 but how about the pussy.

The app is described as.

Frequent / Intense Sexual Content or Nudity.

Infrequent / Mild Profanity or Crude Humor.

Unrestricted Web Access.

Infrequent / Mild Mature / Suggestive Themes.

I've only used it in Sydney. I'm rather curious as well. I guess it's tinder without the regulation!!

Tantan is a Chinese version of Tinder, a straight out copy. I went on this and within a couple of days had amassed a reasonable number of matches and started chatting to some very hot looking Chinese girls. They didn't seem like outright hookers as the conversations never went that way. Just wondering why such pretty young things would be interested in me? Is this a scam?

A couple of them very quickly diverted me to WeChat to continue chatting. One insisted that we continue on smmi (or something like that), but this was a pay-to-chat service, so I declined. She then said she can't speak to me anymore. The red flag was up at this stage.

Does anyone have any more info as I'm intrigued.

[Kabul Guy]

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Do you think bars make money? Some for sale if that your preference but I know ex bar owners who lost a packet for various reasons. ......

Bars and restaurants are the worst investment possible, world wide not only here.

Lots of competition. Easy to get started in a low end restaurant.

Rely on low paid employees, lots of no shows of staff and one bad day for a staff member can [CodeWord140] off lots of customers.

You are at the mercy of suppliers.

Customers have lots of options, go to your place, go elsewhere, eat and drink at home etc.

Big risk on what and how much supplies to order, will you have enough people in to eat it or will they stay home because of weather? Running out just about as bad, people will go next door and may like it better there.

[BrainDrain]

This girl works for a Makati based massage company and has her own profile on WeChat and TanTan as well..

Can you share some more info about TanTAn. Appstore reviews are 3/5 but how about the pussy.

The app is described as.

Frequent / Intense Sexual Content or Nudity.

Infrequent / Mild Profanity or Crude Humor.

Unrestricted Web Access.

Infrequent / Mild Mature / Suggestive Themes.

[SaltyPete]

After about 10 minutes of slowly stroking her she threw me off of her claiming the pain was so great. I didn't believe her at first but she coiled up fetus like. Then laid there for the next 6 hours in pain.

That is my greatest fear about taking a cherry girl. It sounds like only the manager enjoyed that experience.

[Wicked Roger]

I have already talked to a family member of my ex-wife there. And going to start a restaurant in a small city, and the price is not bad at all. But now I want to do more. I want to do some thing like a bar, or a club in a big spot. Does anybody have any info on this.

There has been chatter on this before but some time back.

Apart from the obvious 'do you trust any family member of your ex wife?' then there is adage that if you want to make a million in the Philippines then bring 10 million.

Do you think bars make money? Some for sale if that your preference but I know ex bar owners who lost a packet for various reasons. Also I no some who pinoy partners were nice at first as the foreigner paid the inventory then had him arrested on a charge and then he left the country with the debts and his pinoy partners kept the assets.

Strange old world sometimes and each to his own but I would search the board for some old information on this, speak with some expat bar owners and get a feel. If you want to put your money and earn interest I can send you my bank account details LOL Safer there by far LOL.

[Dg8787]

I'm not so sure about that. A massage girl once told me she had to give half of her income acquired from up-selling to her 'manager'.
This might have been a sob story but it would't surprise me if it was true. So be prepared that you have to pay her 'manager' too (indirectly) when you take her on a holiday.

Years ago I met a uniformed street massage girl. I would have her give me a massage and she would only do a HJ. She claimed to be a cherry girl and the manager set the price around 20 k. She claimed the manager would get half of the money. She also said the woman manager would check her Pussy after each night. About 2 months later she was still a cherry and by now I was doing her orally. One night she just wanted to get it over with and said to just give her 5 k. After going down on her I couldn't resist. So I slowly tried to enter her but she was so tight I had lube up with lotion. After about 10 minutes of slowly stroking her she threw me off of her claiming the pain was so great. I didn't believe her at first but she coiled up fetus like. Then laid there for the next 6 hours in pain. Meanwhile the manager kept calling her every hour. I could hear her arguing with the manager in Tagalog and some broken English like I don't care, you can have all the money, I just want to rest and sleep.

Turns out she didn't get any of the 5 k, it all went to the manager for the time plus half of what the manager should have gotten. Apparently out of the 400 peso massage the girl got 100 plus half of the tip. If you look the girls uniform only has a few pockets.

And they come to work empty pocket plus their cell phone. This girl was part of a 8-10 girl staff. They all roomed together and and couldn't go anywhere by themselves. Also most of the girls were from the same city in Pampanga. I do believe these girls were closely watched and there will be some kind of rate to be paid if you take them on a trip.

[Goferring]

The question I have is what sort of EWR payment would I need to make to her boss so that she can skip work for a few days? Also, what would be an appropriate daily tip for her? I would only pop once a day. I would cover all travel expenses.

I haven't raised this with her yet as I don't want her to get her expectations up in the event I decide to travel on my own.

Mine just told the bar she was going home so no EWR / Bar fine payable. Mamasan got a small kick back from the girl but I wasn't involved and didn't pay directly.

I just paid the equivalent of her basic wage prorated for two weeks. Hence she got 1500 tip every day* she was with me but no BF, drink, dancing etc money. She was happy with this.

* at the time Sabang girls were 1500+1500 and they got a cut of drinks and dancing money.

The whole story, good and bad:

Hi guys,

Just a post on a trip I am having to highlight some of the risks and rewards of taking a multi day / week trip with a BG.

During my last trip to Sabang...

OK, so the trip above is now finished. Her attitude improved over the second week but still wasn't all that I had hoped for.....

[Mogwai]

Any money she makes on up-selling eg. hand job, blow job, B2 B or full service goes directly to her.

I'm not so sure about that. A massage girl once told me she had to give half of her income acquired from up-selling to her 'manager'.
This might have been a sob story but it would't surprise me if it was true. So be prepared that you have to pay her 'manager' too (indirectly) when you take her on a holiday.

[Engine Driver]

Most folk think these LBFMs are different than any other commodity on offer and they forget they are tourists even when they are in tourist areas like Pampanga and Manila. The women are merely jacking up the prices to what they can get away with. I've paid 200 PHP for sex in Davao BTW.

Pampanga is a very large province and not all of it is a tourist area. By tourist area, I assume you mean Angeles City, and more specifically, the red light district around Walking Street, Fields Avenue and 21st Street.

[Engine Driver]

For the first time ever in my mongering life, I am thinking about taking a local girl with me to a beach side holiday resort in the Philippines. This girl works for a Makati based massage company and has her own profile on WeChat and TanTan as well. The procedure is that you make contact with the company or the girl directly and she comes to your hotel room for a massage at 500 PHP / hour. She is paid commission for the basic massage. Any money she makes on up-selling eg. hand job, blow job, B2 B or full service goes directly to her.

The question I have is what sort of EWR payment would I need to make to her boss so that she can skip work for a few days? Also, what would be an appropriate daily tip for her? I would only pop once a day. I would cover all travel expenses.

I haven't raised this with her yet as I don't want her to get her expectations up in the event I decide to travel on my own.

[Cbear13]

OK so this maybe a stupid question But I am trying to learn about the rules there.

So Stocks where good to me this last year and I been doing some investing in other countries. I have already done some in Colombia, and Dominican Republic since I go there a lot. So now I am looking towards the Phils. I have already talked to a family member of my ex-wife there. And going to start a restaurant in a small city, and the price is not bad at all. But now I want to do more. I want to do some thing like a bar, or a club in a big spot. Does anybody have any info on this.

[PedroMorales]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcBJ-vA5AoE

Spain. And Barcelona is Spanish. Leads the way. There is nothing different here from supermarkets. LBFMs are on the way out and, with good programming, the sex dolls have more life to them. The sex dolls can even talk and hold as good a conversation as the farmers' daughters. The hookers in Spain are not happy campers. They are Luddites.

I imagine the Koreans would be big into all this.

I am of the Frank Sinatra school. As he got older, his singing accommodated his age by not hitting high notes etc. Quality over quantity. You're saying we should drink more Red Bull, eat more Jollibees, bed more farmers' daughters. I say no. Go for quality, not quantity in food, drink and women. Many, if not most of the reports would turn me off. A meat market is fine but we don't want to see the flies laying their eggs on tomorrow's dinners.

As we get older, we have to grow out of stuff as it no longer turns us on. I'm not into banging LBFMs like I'm a tuk tuk driver or a marine who's been at sea for 6 months. Can't do it and not too interested in doing it either.

I was looking at flights back to the Philippines to factor a holiday in between two other holidays I am taking. But I've decided to pass and will chill out at home instead.

The Philippines is not off the menus totally. Maybe in 2020 or late 2019. It is a long way to go for bad food and bad drink. Pedrito needs attention of course but that is cost / benefit. I must work out most bang for my buck and as I've had the whole menu at this stage, who knows?