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[X Man]

Surfer said "waterjet". He may have meant "ocean jet". If I recall, it's about 90 min ride from Cebu to Bohol.

http://www.oceanjet.net/

X

[Santa]

There was a young woman named Melanie
Who was asked by a man, "Do you sell any?"
She replied, "No, siree"
I give it for free.
To sell it, dear sir, is a felony!" :D

My name is Jose Rodriguez
I earn tres pesos a day
I give it to Lucy
She give me some pussy
And takes my pesos away :(

[Santa]

if mofo is serious about diving, bohol's balicasag is reliably much more impressive imho. some girls available in tagbilaran town, and bohol is famous for beautiful girls, but probably better to bring one overnight from cebu on the waterjet (high speed ferry) unless you have lots of time and /or game.

i have also been there and agree with surfer. if you skip manila and angeles, fly straight into cebu, then bohol becomes a third option. depends on if mofo is more interested in diving or more interested in party and girls.

not many girl options in tagbilaran so look for a girl in cebu. unfortunately, he only has one week.

[Tbm Fan]

The diving in Boracay is not good, but also not all bad. It is good for new divers and there is a wall called Yapak. But Boracay also has the beautiful white-sand beach and some nightlife, so it's good for a one week tourist.

It has been several years since I was in Angeles. Sounds like business is very good and things have improved. Probably because the airport is busy with lots of new flights. So Angeles fans, don't get mad at me, I was only giving my opinion and trying help.

For example the bar to go to is Nero's at the moment. Tons, and I mean tons, of girls working there (reminds me of Superstar in Ermita) along with Martin the manager. If anyone had the luck of visiting Martin, while at Wild West/Geronimos in Makati, back in 2000-01 then you know what I mean. That place was rockin every night I was in there. Neros is a larger stage for him but already he is working on the girls to change their attitudes if you know what I mean. I will be in Wild West & Flamingo on the 13th followed by Roadhouse (my booze is there) and Nero's on the 14th.

[Surfer]

yapak is 40 meters so short bottom time (under 10 minutes) to be expected. basically race down the anchor line to the reef, short time with strong currrent and soso lighting day i was there and it is not great for pi.

if mofo is serious about diving, bohol's balicasag is reliably much more impressive imho. some girls available in tagbilaran town, and bohol is famous for beautiful girls, but probably better to bring one overnight from cebu on the waterjet (high speed ferry) unless you have lots of time and /or game.

[Tiger 888]

The diving in Boracay is not good, but also not all bad, there is a wall called Yapak. But it also has the beautiful white-sand beach and some nightlife.

It has been several years since I was in Angeles. Sounds like business is good and things have improved.

Well, Yapak if good visibility is a very nice dive site (Its just if there is current you got to be quite precise in dropping off and go staight down), and also Crocodile. And a night dive at the wreck is not bad either.

[Santa]

If you really want to do some diving and it is not too far away then Puerto Galera is the only place within reason. Forget Cebu and forget Boracay as they are both boring in the diving area. Diving on flat sandy bottoms is not of interest to me. Galera has much better diving and the place has improved since I first dove there in 1994. Lots of waste from dynamite fishing. My last dive there (2005) showed a dramatic improvement in the underwater landscape. You can dive flat areas or do wall diving down as far as you can safely handle. Do day diving or night diving, your choice.

As far as Angeles is concerned the earlier statement seems to be an overstatement. Older bars depends if you are talking in existence for 1 year or 15 years. Most fall in the new 2000 and up years. Very experienced girls? Don't think I would call an 18-20 year old experienced especially when compared to her Makati sisters. Off the top of my head I would have to say that more than half the girls have been in AC 6 months or less. Most have a shelf life of 1 year based on whether they get a money-ko, burn out fast or simply move on. This is based on being there at leat every 5 months or so since 1990 and I am always hard pressed to find the same girls twice in a row.

The diving in Boracay is not good, but also not all bad. It is good for new divers and there is a wall called Yapak. But Boracay also has the beautiful white-sand beach and some nightlife, so it's good for a one week tourist.

It has been several years since I was in Angeles. Sounds like business is very good and things have improved. Probably because the airport is busy with lots of new flights. When I was in Angeles the airport was closed and the bars were not busy.

[Tbm Fan]

Dear Fellow Mongers,

I will be doing my first trip to the Philippines in Feb. I only have one week there and hence have to pack in as much as I can in about a week.

My only requirement is I would like to spend some of my time there scuba diving. I was thinking of flying into Manila and spending a few days there and then taking a quick flight to Cebu and eventually fly out of there.

What are the girl quality/quantity & concentration in both cities. I appreciate all input.

Thanks

MM

If you really want to do some diving and it is not too far away then Puerto Galera is the only place within reason. Forget Cebu and forget Boracay as they are both boring in the diving area. Diving on flat sandy bottoms is not of interest to me. Galera has much better diving and the place has improved since I first dove there in 1994. Lots of waste from dynamite fishing. My last dive there (2005) showed a dramatic improvement in the underwater landscape. You can dive flat areas or do wall diving down as far as you can safely handle. Do day diving or night diving, your choice.

As far as Angeles is concerned the earlier statement seems to be an overstatement. Older bars depends if you are talking in existence for 1 year or 15 years. Most fall in the new 2000 and up years. Very experienced girls? Don't think I would call an 18-20 year old experienced especially when compared to her Makati sisters. Off the top of my head I would have to say that more than half the girls have been in AC 6 months or less. Most have a shelf life of 1 year based on whether they get a money-ko, burn out fast or simply move on. This is based on being there at leat every 5 months or so since 1990 and I am always hard pressed to find the same girls twice in a row.

[Santa]

So do you guys think me staying in Manila is good for the week and just do the short trips/dive spots from there?

No, there are no good "short trips/dive spots from Manila. Puerto Gallera can be reached by bus but it is a long ride, don't remember how many hours. There are some girls available and no need for an air ticket, so Gallera may be your better option.

I would not recommend Angeles, but that is just my opinion. However, if you can get a cheap flight into Angeles and a flight from there to Boracay, then that might be a good option.

Angeles is a bunch of old bars with very experienced bargirls. Many of them have had more pricks than the old dartboards. Nothing wrong with that, just want you to know what to expect. Some guys love it! I enjoyed it but I have no desire to return. You might find a good companion there.

I think it's better to bring your own girl if you go to Boracay. The local authorities like to keep the hookers away, they want it to be more family oriented.

There is a tourist information center in Boracay with safety deposit boxes.

[Mofo Monger]

So do you guys think me staying in Manila is good for the week and just do the short trips/dive spots from there?

[Thetsmplumber]

I took my former Quezon City sweetheart to Boracay and will agree with Santa, it's a nice place for diving, dining, drinking and debauchery (bring your own pinay). There are some 'freelance' girls to be had but I'm very glad I had mine with me.

Boracay is the 'holy grail' for Filipinos as most never get the chance to go there.

Speaking further as a one-time visitor to the PI myself, I'd say don't miss spending at least 2 nights in Angeles City. As Boracay is to Filipinos, AC's the 'holy grail' for 24/7 mongering in Asia.

If your past monger experience(s) have sharpened your 'spidey senses,' I bet you'll find an AC sweety fit for a Boracay trip with you. I'd also bet she'd love you for it, especially if she's not been there before.

SeaAir now offers daily direct flights from AC to Boracay. Check with an online travel service serving Asia (Beeline Travel comes to mind) and by all means enjoy your first PI trip!

Just my nickels worth.

Mr. Plumber

Dear Fellow Mongers,

I will be doing my first trip to the Philippines in Feb. I only have one week there and hence have to pack in as much as I can in about a week.

My only requirement is I would like to spend some of my time there scuba diving. I was thinking of flying into Manila and spending a few days there and then taking a quick flight to Cebu and eventually fly out of there.

What are the girl quality/quantity & concentration in both cities. I appreciate all input.

Thanks

MM

[Santa]

Dear Fellow Mongers,

I will be doing my first trip to the Philippines in Feb. I only have one week there and hence have to pack in as much as I can in about a week.

My only requirement is I would like to spend some of my time there scuba diving. I was thinking of flying into Manila and spending a few days there and then taking a quick flight to Cebu and eventually fly out of there.

What are the girl quality/quantity & concentration in both cities. I appreciate all input.

Thanks

MM

Since you are a tourist and only have one week, I think maybe you should try Boracay. It is very touristy but also has a lot to offer. Great beach, good diving, lots of bars, good restaurants and some discos. There are girls available but sometimes pickings are slim. You might find a girl in Manila you like and take her with you. There is an airport near Boracai.

Puerto Galera is ok too. Not as nice, some girls, less tourists. That's my opinion.

There is plenty of mongering in Cebu City but the good dive sights are very far away from the city and require a lot of travel time.

Of course, there are more girls available in Manila than in Cebu.

There are many remote and private beaches with great diving, but they are not good for a single guy looking for diving + pussy.

[Surfer]

Mofo: Diving near CEbu City sucks. Go tro Puerto Galera, mIndoro, about a 2 hour bus ride south of Manila to Batangas wherer you catch a boat for the 90 minute crossing. Sabang is the nightlife area and there are diive shops too.

[Mofo Monger]

Dear Fellow Mongers,

I will be doing my first trip to the Philippines in Feb. I only have one week there and hence have to pack in as much as I can in about a week.

My only requirement is I would like to spend some of my time there scuba diving. I was thinking of flying into Manila and spending a few days there and then taking a quick flight to Cebu and eventually fly out of there.

What are the girl quality/quantity & concentration in both cities. I appreciate all input.

Thanks

MM

[GoodEnough]

Like the Spam Hog, I've been there and done that in the US and, like him, made a decision to alter my life radically by leaving it all behind and coming over here. Of course, prior to moving to the PI, I had spent approximately 6 months of my life on the road for 15 years, which is what probably created the problems with my US marriage in the first place. There's no cure apparently, for the infection of wanderlust.

I don't know how valid it is to generalize from my experience, but in my case I've come to realize that you can never quite have it all. Money is not the problem, but for me, the guilt never goes away entirely. Further, if you choose to live in SE Asia, you will never fit in quite as completely as you did in your native country. I lived in France for years, and I speak the language well. I never experienced any sense of "otherness" there. I guess it's because, though it wasn't the US, it was still the West, and there's a common cultural/social context to which I could relate. Asia is different and I (and you) will always be looked upon as a foreigner. Neither I, nor you, will ever fully understand the culture, the customs or the people and you will never find a woman with whom you can share the same thoughts, dreams and feelings as you could in your homeland. How could you? Your experiences are radically different, as are your education and your cultural roots.

That's the down side. The upside is obvious. You can live extremely well, and in most cases far better than you could in the US or Europe. No matter your age, if you're reasonably presentable, you can indulge yourself with an unending throng of young, beautiful women. If you get tired of endless women, you can, most likely, find a permanent relationship which is as different from your relationship in the US as night is from day. You can find someone who is utterly devoted to your care and well-being, who goes out of her way to please you, and who takes your happiness and comfort as the central focus of her life, while asking for little other than kindness and a reasonable standard of living in return. True, she (probably) will not be able to discuss the great books with you, and might not share your passion for any intellectual pursuit, but she will not mind at all if you find such needs met with expat friends wherever you're living.

To me, the upside usually outweighs the downside of the equation, but it's never a total "win-win" situation in the long haul. If my experience is at all common, you will always have some doubts, and may occassionally feel some guilt, never entirely banishing the "what if I had stayed" thoughts from your mind. On the other hand, if you decide to stay where you are, you're never going to entirely get rid of the "what if I had gone" thoughts either.

I don't regret the choice I've made, but I did want to point out that there are always nuances to the decision.

:D

GE