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[ShadowAxis]

guys,

just some advice - it's worth your time to have two hotel rooms should your finances permit. one that you play from, and the other where you actually live. never bring any girl you pick up back to your apartment or long term hotel. you are in a very poor country - desperation breeds creativity and opportunity - and you, my brother, are the opportunity. i just experienced my first, and hopefully my last stalker.

cute, met in greenbelt, a popular and upscale mall - about 4'11, incredible body, great smile - charming. not a pro, but very weird and exceptionally hard to get rid of - very curious about my business and "contacts." she spent the night - wanted me to take her "shopping." (ah, so this isn't for free - wound up donating about p3000, way too much - espically considering the followup hassles), not an espically great experience and when i saw her in the morning i was seriously worried about having slept with a 16 year old. (said she was 24... and her id was stolen, of course with her assets - i'd have believed anything) made the mistake of bringing her back to my place - days later she started leaving notes with building security and sending lots of txt messages. "i really miss you, can i see you again?!? muah!" not good...

like an idiot - i went out with her one last time (did i mention her rack?) - she kept mentioning that someone was following her, it got weirder and weirder - i had a very bad feeling about the situation. told her (multiple times) that she was not coming back to my place, we were just friends, and that we were not spending the night together. i was ready to dash into a cab, she was demanding to go use the restroom (ie. make another phone call) - i hopped in a cab and took off with her knocking on the window. she sent me text messages until 4:00 am with questions, comments, insults, ect. the whole scene just had the look of a setup or shakedown - which happens frequently here.

stories in the pi abound with tales of guys who get nailed on trumped up [CodeWord123] charges. any girl can get 10 locals to swear under oath that they saw you stuff the girl into a cab - or hell, that you nailed her right on the platform of the ayala mrt. when you have nothing, you also have nothing to lose.

i am still getting pinged by this girl, i've alerted building security, will likely get a new sim card for my phone, worst case - i have her exported to the provinces (i work with the government).

let's recap...

1. the philippines is a devoutly catholic country, odds are strong that you are not brad pitt - therefore, if you are getting laid on the first "date," she is a prostitute.
2. ask for id, if she looks 16 - she's 31, if she looks 28 - she's 17. if she can't produce id - don't fuck her. it'll flatter her if you tell her she looks 16 anyway - unless she's 14!
3. never bring a girl back to your place - espically if you own the place, have money (meaning, nice things - expensive furnishings), or value your privacy.
4. never overpay - she'll latch onto you faster than a thirsty tick. if you are a rich expat - you set yourself up for future shakedowns or worse - a [CodeWord123] charge.
5. always use a condom (for all the obvious reasons), the not so obvious one is if you blow the winning load into her - it will medically support a fradulant [CodeWord123] charge or worse, lifelong child support... (ah, and that includes her, her children (you didn't think junior was going to be an only child? did u?), her bothers and sisters, unemployed family, friends and filipino boyfriend)

and all this time i though i was paying for the girl to go away in the morning! :)

cheers, sa

[Jambo]

I posted an update regarding FilipinaHeart.com in the Dating Services forum at
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=1823

[Member #1005]

You can be called back from a mobile or landline.

Thanks Joel Goodson but there is a charge for this service, hence the reason I am sticking with local sim cards

[Jambo]

Whats the deal with FilipinaHeart.com?

I tried to reply to a message yesterday, and up popped a questionaire. It took up an entire screen. They have a notice that reads in part:

The US Congress has recently passed legislation that requires most online dating companies to collect information regarding the criminal and marital history of US citizens or residents who will communicate with foreign nationals. The purpose of this legislation is to protect foreign women from domestic violence.

Then ask a bunch of personal stuff relating to your marital status, children, court orders. Then they close with:

I understand that US law requires that the above information must be accessible to every foreign national whom I correspond with.

They don't really cite the legislation, but have a link to some protest site at http://www.internationalmarriagebrokers.com/

Strange. Especially since this is an Australian web site. To my knowledge, no US-based E-commerce site complies with European laws on data collection, privacy, and especially, taxation. For example, under European law, email lists must be opt-in. Sites like Amazon.com require you opt-out of their list after you place an order.

I don't really understand why they are caving in so easy on this issue--assuming its legit. Could this site have been hijacked? Seems not, since the form has remained over 24 hours.

[Joel Goodsen]

You can be called back from a mobile or landline. You can use skypein for this. http://www.skype.com/products/skypein/

You can buy skypein in any of these countries and people can ring you up by calling a local number.

Brazil
Japan
Denmark
Poland
Estonia
Sweden
Finland
Switzerland
France
United Kingdom
Germany
United States
Hong Kong S.A.R., China

If you're for instance in the Phils and you have a US skype in number, people in the US can call the US skype in number to contact you against a local tariff.

Like yourself Frequent Flyer
.. but the minor drawback is that you cannot be called back from a mobile or landline, only someone else on Skype, plus you cannot call the police. Skype also works on dial up lines if your hotel doesn’t have a broadband connection.

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[Member #1005]

Like yourself Frequent Flyer I have been using Skype for the last seven months and have used in Australia, Japan, New Zealand, Thailand, Indonesia, The Philippines, Poland, The Czech Republic and Dubai. It works very well although I have detected that at certain times of the day, when it is busy the drop out rate is quite high.

However, I have topped up my account and put ten Euros on it and it’s cheap enough, its great for calling out to any fixed line phone or mobile but the minor drawback is that you cannot be called back from a mobile or landline, only someone else on Skype, plus you cannot call the police. Skype also works on dial up lines if your hotel doesn’t have a broadband connection.

You are correct this is the future for telephony and already here in the UK we have three companies offering a similar service, one of them is a telephone company but to get it you have to have a fixed line phone (??) as well as Yahoo. I did read that Google is looking to start a similar service. I still believe in buying a local sim card when I am in country as a complement to Skype, but I have yet to try out Skype on an aircraft that offers in-flight internet service, Lufthansa, Singapore Airlines and Emirates offer Internet access on some flights, but I am curious about the results.

[Frequent Flier]

i have recently been using a service called skype. www.skype.com is the link.

this service is really good and is better voice connection than talking by cell phone. especially in the usa with all the compression they use at peak times. making it so you can't understand the other person you are talking with.

these internet phone services are going to change the way phone companies operate and i hope put a few of those blood sucking companies out of business.

if you have high speed connection you can buy a head set and call and talk to anyone using this type of system.

you can buy phone that works within a wireless lan area and pick up all your messages and other task that are available. if the other person also has skype you talk for free. ... no cost and it is very clear and no delays.

you can also buy time to call regular phone numbers and the rates are very good and again very clear reception.

it is working good for me, may not be for everyone, but i would check it out if you make lots of international or long distance calls.

there are other services available other than skype that do the same thing.

ff

[X Man]

teenieweenie, Some of the girls at the online sites are pros or scammers. See the post I just made at the Filipina section. I think the majority are legit. I think it's a great way to set things up especially if you want to visit some new places.

As for your WHY question.... well, the answer could very well be a master's dissertation, but I'll give my quick take...and expect a few others will also.

In addition to being poor, they have a heavy reliance on money coming in from relatives overseas...often from Filipinos working overseas and sometimes from someone who married a foreigner. There are also quite a few Filipinos that made it to the USA by joining the military, not to mention the many ladies who married a serviceman when the bases were open. There is a Max's restaurant in San Diego

These relatives send money / bring gifts and they appear to be rich. So, there's that aspect ... getting to a developed country seems a bit like hitting the lottery. I went to a small mountain town in the hills one hour out of Cebu. I saw a really nice home, very well kept. I pointed it out and my companion said, "Oh, she married a foreigner."

I'd say there is the added element of it being fashionable and acceptable to have a foreign guy, even an older one. Once enough people do it, it becomes okay. My mountain girl (I met at CB) is a regular girl living in the big city and working in a factory on Mactan. She 26 and me 46. I met her father who is the only one left up on the mountain. She actually asked her father if she could accompany me during my visit. I just about crapped when I heard that...but he apparently allowed it because she stuck with me for the next three days. Not nearly as beautiful as some of the bar girls, but never made a fuss, never asked for money and was ready and willing every time I, ummm, felt the urge. Life is good in the Phil islands.

I was also reading another web site recently ...I searched for Camiguin and found the site of a German diver..lots of pictures. I think the term "single" or "single traveler" is in the URL. Somewhere in his adventures he mentions going to a village between CDO and Butuan and meeting a 60 yr old Filipino guy with an 18yr old wife. Wow.

X

[TeenieWeenie]

Hey Guys -

Sorry to intrude on a pay-for-play discussion, but out of curiosity, why are there so many young ladies in their early twenties from the Philippines who are looking to marry guys up to 60 years old?

The sex trade in many other countries is just as strong, (Thailand, Costa Rica, etc.), but if you browse the various "buy a wife" sites you only get a few hits for young women who will marry an old fart like me. (I'm 50, more or less, stuck in the land of do-it-yourself, the ol' USA.) Not so in the Philippines!

I assume most of these women are pros or semi-pros. (Heck, you guys may have spent some time with a few. Why not go to www.blossoms.com and see if you recognize anyone? **PLEASE DON'T BLOW HER COVER!** But it should be good for a few grins.)

I'm gathering that if I have any interest in a Philippine lady, I shouldn't spend a cent on a dating service, but rather drag my old butt over there.

[HenryV]

I will be visiting Davao for the first time. Can you give me some advice on good bars, massage partlours, or a general idea of where I should be casting my line.

Thanks

[GoodEnough]

GE,

I will be in Cebu at the end of March and I like to get off the beaten path. Lend me your hiking shoes, and your well worn map to help me get acquainted with the ladies in places other than what's on the beaten path. I've read the forum and have formulated a plan of places to visit, but maybe you could enlighten me on a "must see, must visit" place to hook up with some nice non pro action. I will be ever in your service!

Yella Man

Yella Man, I would like to help, but I am not even an expert on the "beaten path" in Cebu. I've only been to Cebu a couple of times. Cebu Local is the man for this advice. If you want some information about Davao or even Mindanao in general. I would be happy to help.

I can however, send you my worn hiking boots if this would be any help.

:D

GE

[Yella Man]

While nothing beats the price/quality ratio at LA Cafe, provided that you're patient and willing to wait until the one you love comes along, EDSA has a good cost/benefit ratio as well. The bar fine is PhP1000, but the girls are never more than PhP1,500 for as long as you like. Also, if you attach a monetary value to your time, the ratio increases, since there's a higher percentage of good looking women in EDSA than in LA Cafe, and therefore you need to spend less time looking. Burgos, on the other hand, is ridiculous and does not represent much value for money.

It is somewhat amazing so me though that so many first timers stick to the well-trodden path to Manila when there are so many more attractive, and less expensive options available to anyone with even a smidgen of adventurous spirit. To each his own I suppose.

:D

GE

GE,

I will be in Cebu at the end of March and I like to get off the beaten path. Lend me your hiking shoes, and your well worn map to help me get acquainted with the ladies in places other than what's on the beaten path. I've read the forum and have formulated a plan of places to visit, but maybe you could enlighten me on a "must see, must visit" place to hook up with some nice non pro action. I will be ever in your service!

Yella Man

[GoodEnough]

Hey,

I'm new to this, so I don't know exactly what to do. My friend told me about this site, but that was it. He's not really into Filipinas, but I am. What do you guys think about the women? Can anyone lead me in the right direction?

How do they look?

How do I get into contact with them?

What should I be aware of?

Is it strictly business? They don't reveal anything about their personal lives, do they?

CRD176

I do not mean to be rude, by why are you asking these questions? This forum is packed with information on every tangent of life over here, and all you need to to is read. Then, if you have any specific questions, pose them and I'm sure the guys here would be willing to answer.

[Crd176]

Hey,

I'm new to this, so I don't know exactly what to do. My friend told me about this site, but that was it. He's not really into Filipinas, but I am. What do you guys think about the women? Can anyone lead me in the right direction?

How do they look?

How do I get into contact with them?

What should I be aware of?

Is it strictly business? They don't reveal anything about their personal lives, do they?

CRD176

[J Boy]

I'm heading to Angeles for my 2nd trip, but I still haven't figured it all out yet :)

After you take the first girl from a bar and have a great time, the next time you go in there she sticks to you like glue.

How do I take the second girl from the same bar and not have her feel bad or not give as good a performance?

Don't let it worry you. Most times when girl 1 pouts it's a sales pitch. They want another 500p. Just tell her up front you are a butterfly and want to have other girls. Remind her of this if she pouts.

To get good performance from girl 2 try telling her that girl 1 was great and ask if she is as good. It can tend to bring out her competitive spirit.

CAVEAT. Do not lie to the girls to make them feel like you have long-term plans for them. If you lead them on they can be very vengeful.