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[Goferring]

The government of the Philippines must keep that large constituency of HK maids, Saudi shtt cleaners, Dubai hair dressers, Texan teachers, Norwegian nurses happy, or cash flows and job agencies will suffer. They are even on record time and again as saying that.

It also works the other way. Do you think the nationalities mentioned are going to wash their own toilets?

Here the fruit industry has all but collapsed due to the lack of back packer slave workers who had to go Bush to keep their visas. Good luck getting an honest days manual labour out of a 19 yo here. Ain't going to happen. Better to stay at home paying Minecraft while getting the latest government assistance package.

Rant off.

[Member #4794]

How did you find a virgin girl in Cebu, and also how do you trust that she is a virgin?

If you are into this sort of thing, there is an untapped legal (well over 21) group of "tomboys" specifically the girls who look like guys who usually have bar girl girlfriends are usually virgins in terms of never being with a man and they are not opposed to giving it up for a reasonable sum. Only thing you need to get around is that they look kind of like a man, you can find tomboys who do not look so much like men. If you are into cuckold this kind of also can fill that fantasy, tomboys will watch as well if you ask them to. I have been offered bar girls "tomboys" on several occasions and I may or may not have partaken in this. They are NOT turned on by the sex and will do it for the money so you kind of have to get out of it what you will. On the occasion that I may or may not have partaken in this the tomboy whispered something odd, "she" whispered right before I came "cum inside me" and thanked me after wards? I may or may not have knocked up a tomboy or 2. I have no problem being a sperm donor for a happy couple although they do come looking for you to HELP with the expenses allegedly.

EDIT: you will get VERY VERY VERY weird looks at the hotel just a heads up.

[Edward5]

Was looking for a reasonable fun in November in Philippines and Thailand. Including a supposedly virgin girl in Cebu.

All planning has been wasted. Contacts are put on shelves to be re hashed if they are still interested. All travel plans Post Phoned to March. Luckily all airlines honored without penalty. Hotel booking cancelled with no charge except one in Pattaya. If Thailand opens before November I may not have any luck getting refunded but it was for only two nights. If Thailand is still closed I will get refund.

Was planning to go to Cartagena in November. But decided to go to Costa Rica which I am very familiar with. Besides I had unused travel miles and credit. May make a quick trip to Sosua if curfew is lifted.

How did you find a virgin girl in Cebu, and also how do you trust that she is a virgin?

[Sammon]

Was looking for a reasonable fun in November in Philippines and Thailand. Including a supposedly virgin girl in Cebu.

All planning has been wasted. Contacts are put on shelves to be re hashed if they are still interested. All travel plans Post Phoned to March. Luckily all airlines honored without penalty. Hotel booking cancelled with no charge except one in Pattaya. If Thailand opens before November I may not have any luck getting refunded but it was for only two nights. If Thailand is still closed I will get refund.

Was planning to go to Cartagena in November. But decided to go to Costa Rica which I am very familiar with. Besides I had unused travel miles and credit. May make a quick trip to Sosua if curfew is lifted.

[Mdemde]

Careful what you wish for. NCR (and I think Laguna) will have the last day of ECQ today, and move to MECQ tomorrow for Aug 21-31. Supposedly the Modified ECQ is a less-strict form of ECQ. Other gents here, do I have that right?

There are 4 categories of quarantine in the Philippines, ECQ, MECQ, GCQ and MGCQ with ECQ being the most severe and MGCQ being the least restrictive. I believe that a 'modified' ECQ is a less strict form of ECQ.

Cebu City is currently under MECQ and has been since the beginning of this month. Prior to that it had been on MGCQ since September of last year.

All the malls are open, taxis, motorbike taxis, busses and jeeps are running, but there is an overnight curfew from 10 pm.

Restaurants are open for take out, dine-in is allowed if they have outdoor seating (many at the malls do have outdoor seating), but dine-in inside the restaurant is strictly not allowed.

Bars and pubs are not allowed to sell liquor, most if not all have closed, and last Monday they reintroduced the liquor ban at supermarkets and convenience shops. Fortunately for me a local convenience shop is still willing to sell me beer (I bought some this afternoon) but they have to be very discrete for obvious reasons.

Quarantine passes have not been used here for many months, I forget exactly when they were no longer required.

When MECQ was imposed at the beginning of this month the management at my condo building were obliged to reintroduce a ban on residents bringing visitors into the building, the s/t hotel near Robinsons Galleria that I occasionally use has closed but there is another one nearby that as of 9 August was still open.

[PedroMorales]

Here is what Pinoy overseas workers remit: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...rs-by-country/.

Here is the GDP of the Philippines: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicato...tional-product.

Although I suspect the former figure is skewed by the normal US / Utah fixations, it is a fact that the Philippines, like Bangladesh etc, is heavily dependent upon Pinoys sending money home. A few stiffs in cargo are irrelevant.

The government of the Philippines must keep that large constituency of HK maids, Saudi shtt cleaners, Dubai hair dressers, Texan teachers, Norwegian nurses happy, or cash flows and job agencies will suffer. They are even on record time and again as saying that.

Self centred American mongers are not even an after thought in the bigger scheme of things.

Major international airlines are being kept afoat by governments buying bonds etc. Again, the Philippines is an after thought there.

Australia and NZ: anyone farts and it is an extended lock down.

The only hope is if some large country throws open the doors. Parts of the USA have done that but who in their right minds would want to go there?

Perhaps Africa is an option. Time to watch the Maltese Falcon again and look for new bolt holes.

One of the main reasons why FilAms go back to the Philippines or go for the first time is a death in the family (most of them have a line in their wills that they need to take them back to the Philippines plot as a condition in the will) and seeing as there has been a back log of FilAms either not being allowed entry and "fear" that the Philippines is just not safe. The FilAm community that I am keyed into here in the US are all making plans to go to phils around December of 2022. It is kind of eerie when you think about how many dead bodies are in the cargo hold of a FilAm heavy flight to phils. Given covid and 3 years of back logged funerals I think we see a giant surge in travel to phils due to this wave. FilAms are what you call arte they usually stay in the best hotels sometimes coincide with the hotels we stay in so I'm betting on some of these hotels being fully booked for the funeral wave.

[WestCoast1]

My take is that, with the Delta variant now sounding a cautionary note throughout the country, the situation here will not change in the immediate future. I've seen nothing on any of the government websites indicating that the country is reconsidering opening its doors to foreign tourists anytime soon, but that could change overnight given that there's no basis here for predictability.

GE and I continue with the same dreaded thoughts:

1) Re-opening to foreigners is too hard to call (we all mis-guessed it initially when we said late 2020, then early 2021, then middle 2021. . .).

2) It could happen tomorrow, or in 2025. Check this:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/apple-r...-corporations/

From today's news (on several sites), Apple, Lyft, Google, Amazon, Doordash, Overstock and others are postponing US employees from returning to the office until at least next year. Big companies have also mis-guessed the situation, saying they would bring back workers early this year, then mid-year, or October, now looking at next year. From the article:

According to Bloomberg, Apple employees will be alerted one month before they must return to the office. They will be required to work at the office at least three days a week, with the option to work remotely on Wednesdays and Fridays, Bloomberg said. Apple did not immediately reply to CBS MoneyWatch's request for comment.

SNIP.

Lyft, which had been planning to bring workers back to its San Francisco headquarters next month, is now putting off their return "until we're in the clear," citing the uncertainty caused by the latest coronavirus wave. The ridesharing company does not expect its nearly 5,000 corporate workers to return to their offices until February 2, 2022, at the earliest.

"We anticipate the COVID situation will remain fluid for the upcoming months, making it difficult for us to land a clear return date without a possibility of moving it again," Lyft CEO and cofounder Logan Green said in a message to employees.

SNIP.

"I think we all thought six months ago that September was going to look good, but 'Miss Delta' was like, 'Yeah, I don't think so. You better check yourself,'" said Danielle Ompad, a professor of epidemiology at New York University.

To that end, Overstock, the online furniture retailer based in Midvale, Utah, close to Salt Lake City, has announced it won't bring workers back to the office any earlier than January 2022. Overstock had initially targeted Memorial Day in May as a return date for the company's more than 1,500 employees in customer service, marketing, merchandising, financial and technology roles.

3) When considering future visits to phils, one must consider the wild inaccurate guesses from US companies and our own Phils return inaccuracies. Several things will be happening at the same time. From my reading of posts here and also in PM, I get the impression that the gents think that the allowing in of foreigners for tourism will somehow coincide with the return of the previous way of life, things we took for granted -- gogo bars, street girls, dating site girls, live band / nightlife, alcohol on demand, providers, lunch or drinks at a bar with your mates (ie, Cheers / Burgos or other), and the biggie: A hotel / condo that will allow you to bring in girl after girl (existed before, but not so much now).

My unfortunate point is this. What is happening now, when GE / Beavis / Mdeade or other gives a current sit-rep. You should pay attention to those things. While its possible the (fickle) government will allow in tourists, those current cyclical anti-Covid restrictions will continue on. If the US can't get to herd immunity, how do we expect a superstitious country to do so? While the government here is doing an admirable job acquiring jabs and getting them into arms, we still have a large percentage of the population that is not wanting one (for any number of reasons). Its quite possible that the current state of affairs will still go on after allowing vaxxed foreigners into the country. Only the very serious, vaxxed, and dedicated mongers will come, quarantine, and live for a week or three in a hotel that allows him only 1 girl, using ST places for his excess girls.

Is this what you want to come to when it opens up? I would like to be wrong about this.

[WestCoast1]

Did any one see this? Is this real? Or are they going to find some way to squash this?

"The bill states that the other grounds for divorce include: separation in fact for at least five years at the time the petition for absolute divorce is filed; when one of the spouses undergoes a gender reassignment surgery or transitions from one sex to another; irreconcilable marital differences as defined in the bill; other forms of domestic or marital abuse which are also defined in the bill; valid foreign divorce secured by either the alien or Filipino spouse; and a marriage nullified by a recognized religious tribunal. ".

"House panel approves absolute divorce bill".

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1150751

Yes, I have watched this topic in the news recently. It was bandied about the legislature a few years ago I think, and failed. Just out of committee now, it will probably fail again. Other gents who have lived here longer can comment.

[Member #4794]

Did any one see this? Is this real? Or are they going to find some way to squash this?

"The bill states that the other grounds for divorce include: separation in fact for at least five years at the time the petition for absolute divorce is filed; when one of the spouses undergoes a gender reassignment surgery or transitions from one sex to another; irreconcilable marital differences as defined in the bill; other forms of domestic or marital abuse which are also defined in the bill; valid foreign divorce secured by either the alien or Filipino spouse; and a marriage nullified by a recognized religious tribunal. ".

"House panel approves absolute divorce bill".

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1150751

[Member #4794]

One of the main reasons why FilAms go back to the Philippines or go for the first time is a death in the family (most of them have a line in their wills that they need to take them back to the Philippines plot as a condition in the will) and seeing as there has been a back log of FilAms either not being allowed entry and "fear" that the Philippines is just not safe. The FilAm community that I am keyed into here in the US are all making plans to go to phils around December of 2022. It is kind of eerie when you think about how many dead bodies are in the cargo hold of a FilAm heavy flight to phils. Given covid and 3 years of back logged funerals I think we see a giant surge in travel to phils due to this wave. FilAms are what you call arte they usually stay in the best hotels sometimes coincide with the hotels we stay in so I'm betting on some of these hotels being fully booked for the funeral wave.

[GoodEnough]

Per WC's recent post, it's a mistake to look for any sort of consistency in Covid response here, as the situation on the ground varies so dramatically both from city to city and, within cities, from barangay to barangay. Here in Davao, for example, which is (I think) now under the loosest form of quarantine, nothing much has changed since it was under the strictest designation. It appears that, over time, individual Filipinos have made their own decisions about risk vs reward and that most have opted for economic survival over isolation, albeit masking and social distancing appear to have become part of this city's social DNA. So, malls are open; small shops are open; traffic congestion has returned to pre-pandemic levels, and folks are evidently doing what they need to do to survive. At this point, approximately 15% of Davao's total population is vaccinated—with any one of several different vaccines—and the local government is doing a reasonable job the dispensing the vaccines it receives.

I think that the risk / reward calculation carries over into mongering decisions as well. In my case, I had plans to meet some old friends in Makati and then Angeles / Subic earlier this month. We're all of reasonably advanced ages and decided, in our collective case, that the risk / reward ratio remained too heavily skewed toward the "risk" element of the equation, despite the fact that we're all fully vaccinated, and despite the fact that the list of adorable young women awaiting our arrival was extensive. We simply made the decision that the anticipated pleasures were not worth the potential cost. Other, presumably younger, fitter guys may have made a different decision. The point is that the supply remains ample and, for those of us already here, the decision as to whether or not to take advantage of that fact is an individual one, as travel between cities does not represent much of a hassle.

My take is that, with the Delta variant now sounding a cautionary note throughout the country, the situation here will not change in the immediate future. I've seen nothing on any of the government websites indicating that the country is reconsidering opening its doors to foreign tourists anytime soon, but that could change overnight given that there's no basis here for predictability.

GE.

[PedroMorales]

https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-...language=en-US

The above is a pretty good site showing what is on and off the menu travel wise. I have bonked Burmese before, hairless wonders, but those days are gone as entry is forbidden. Here are arrivals at Bkk airport https://www.bangkokairportonline.com...ls-departures/ though I doubt many mongers are landing.

Here is Laos. Most foreigners need not apply https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-...language=en-US.

Here is (non) entry to the Philippines. https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-...language=en-US.

Special rules for their own as remittances keep that national of Jolibees going. Mongers do not figure.

Those places are all locked shut. The videos of life in Thailand (Pattaya, Bkk) show very little action, a few street walkers trying to make rent and nothing more in Ghost towns.

I am thinking of making an intra European trip next month but the problem even here is travel restrictions.

I had been bonking a US based air hostess who had a side hussle on. But she landed here three times during covid and never contacted me. Due to hotel lockdown rules.

To9 nga is Covid free but a British chick has been stuck there for 18 months, unable to leave https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...nga/index.html.

Some other South Pacific land dots are also covid free but there is no getting there.

The good old days were Bugis Street and Johore Road in Singapore. All of that is like talking about the rise and fall of the Roman Empire or what Alexander got up to in Kabul's cat houses.

The problem is today's restrictions which, in places like France, are going to get a lot worse. US citizens (may) have, at least, the chance to wander south and dip into debauchery at Tijuana and continue south. SE Asia, no go.

I hope a lot of the newer breed of mongers feels this way and seek local talent in their respective home countries. When I first started going to angels I feel like it was the hayday of walking street hell it might have even been better before I got there. In this hobby red tape and hassle leads to 9's-10's sitting and waiting for you to show up. This has changed over the past 10 years or so bar girls are no longer sweet and have kind of a bar girl archetype you can still find gems every now and then but they soon get tainted and jaded. This is the reason I started to travel to Laos and myanmar for less ridden hookers where you can still find 9's-10's sitting around. While you might see the hassle as hassle for hassle sake it serves as a firewall to weed out half hearted mongers. Just means that if you do get in you will be rewarded with sweeter juice. I do not crochet, nor do yoga, nor do I protest anything, I only monger it is my only hobby and the only thing I give a shit about.

[Member #4794]

Quite simply, the old days are gone and are not coming back.

I hope a lot of the newer breed of mongers feels this way and seek local talent in their respective home countries. When I first started going to angels I feel like it was the hayday of walking street hell it might have even been better before I got there. In this hobby red tape and hassle leads to 9's-10's sitting and waiting for you to show up. This has changed over the past 10 years or so bar girls are no longer sweet and have kind of a bar girl archetype you can still find gems every now and then but they soon get tainted and jaded. This is the reason I started to travel to Laos and myanmar for less ridden hookers where you can still find 9's-10's sitting around. While you might see the hassle as hassle for hassle sake it serves as a firewall to weed out half hearted mongers. Just means that if you do get in you will be rewarded with sweeter juice. I do not crochet, nor do yoga, nor do I protest anything, I only monger it is my only hobby and the only thing I give a shit about.

[PedroMorales]

I went to the shop early this morning, my first shop trip in August. I am itching to get a provider, even a local over priced one. However, I still have a cough and am very weak so maybe next week. Or the week after.

There are people moving around Western Europe, young adventurers and the like but it is flatter than a pancake.

I have been watching a lot of youtube videos on Thailand and Japan. All are masked up, pattaya / Jomtien seems to be just expats and long haul hookers, who have forsaken the war pain. There was a good video on how hooker prices have fallen way back to bearable levels. This is a few months old but it gives the price picture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKW4YMMRp1A.

The Japanese and Thai videos give a good current snap shop.

This https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ shows the Philippines is much riskier than Thailand for the locals. I would hate to have a family depending on Duterte and his type.

With my own covid, I have been phoning everyone I know, gleaning opinions. All seem to be ready for a long haul of washing hands, wearing masks and avoiding The Great Unwashed. The relatively large number of anti vaxxers I know increasingly come across as nut jobs, Certainly their proposed cures are worse than the disease.

I have heard first hand reports of 3 year olds infecting entire families.

Where do we / I go from here? I cannot think of anywhere worth a punt. There are obviously lots of willing women in the Philippines, Indonesia, Latin America and so on. And plenty of over priced lardies in Europe. But is it over? Many European providers are now asking for vac certs (wtf) and they seem a waste of time in any event. Not the Pampanga / Pattaya sort who let things rip.

It also seems Turkish and the various Middle East airlines are being squeezed out in Europe, locking all possible escape routes.

The only way forward here seems to get into a bubble. But with crazy European prices, it may be a case of going back to World what One where the Austro Hungarian conscript said: Before the war, my wife was my right hand. Now my right hand is my wife.

My own situation is I am still recovering from Covid, I have a digital passport but I have nowhere I can go where the risk and hassle does not swamp the reward of barb wired pussy.

Quite simply, the old days are gone and are not coming back. Look at onlyfans (which thankfully is under pressure). Paying $20 a month or more to see some virtual BS. Bring back even a whiff of the old days before we die.

We are coming into the Northern winter again and talk is of jabbing and boosting us all. At this rate, even 2021 will be the good old days.

[WestCoast1]

Careful what you wish for. NCR (and I think Laguna) will have the last day of ECQ today, and move to MECQ tomorrow for Aug 21-31. Supposedly the Modified ECQ is a less-strict form of ECQ. Other gents here, do I have that right? However this time I don't see much difference. The restaurant situation stays the same (take-out only), curfew will stay the same (8 pm). The only change will be the lack of the Quarantine pass.

Pics from today's news online, including ABS-CBN. Self-explanatory, with:

Pic #2, group of people. Just guessing that is an ayuda formation from the past week. Its a cattle-call event, one person from each eligible home shows up to pick up cash given by the government when people can't work during lockdown. Last week it was p4 k per family, at least in the several Brgy where I know folks. Whatever this line is, its slow-moving, as you can see a gentleman sitting / resting at the bottom of the pic. Previous ayuda lines I've seen before were more organized and socially distanced and single file; not a large blob of people in such close proximity like this one.

Pic #4, Quarantine passes no longer needed. During the ECQ, many Brgy distributed a laminated pass, one to each family. Supposedly, only 1 person from your home can go out at any one time for food, supplies, medicine, medical. Over 2 weeks time I only needed to show mine once.

I understand at least one provincial city has recently dropped out of ECQ to the less restrictive GCQ.