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[Engine Driver]

40 years ago US airlines had glamourous stewardesses. Air Asia has some glam now.

yes very true

[Dg8787]

What is so glamorous about picking up people's trash and smelling them shit all day long?

40 years ago US airlines had glamourous stewardesses. Air Asia has some glam now.

[Mr Enternational]

In most Asian countries, 'air hostess' is a most coveted, glamorous position.

What is so glamorous about picking up people's trash and smelling them shit all day long?

[Goferring]

Never heard that before. Are we talking about KAL Flight Attendants?

Yes.

Never heard that before also. Have flown KAL many times. KAL F-A's all look the same: tall, thin, gawky, legs so long they bow inward at the knees, many are as tall as I am. Average-good faces. Over the years I keep having the same thought: Certainly KAL must able to find *some* lookers, right?

Clearly we've been on different planes. 😁.

[WestCoast1]

The role is also highly coveted for its access marrying well. Korean Air is a good example where hosties are absolute goddesses, many of whom end up marrying first class passengers.

Never heard that before. Are we talking about KAL Flight Attendants?

They've all had plastic surgery to look like that. It's not natural beauty. Korean girls without surgery and make up just look like average, ordinary girls.

Never heard that before also. Have flown KAL many times. KAL F-A's all look the same: tall, thin, gawky, legs so long they bow inward at the knees, many are as tall as I am. Average-good faces. Over the years I keep having the same thought: Certainly KAL must able to find *some* lookers, right? I see better looking Korean girls (hotties, really) traipsing around Manila. All the KAL girls have such a similar look that I assume they are chosen based on body type (former tall high school or college basketball or volleyball players who were not able to make the cut at the next higher level).

I google-imaged 'pretty Korean girls' (see pics) and got pics that don't look like KAL F-A's. When I think of pretty Korean girls, I think Momoland, not KAL. KAL F-A's are also well-trained and seasoned, giving great cabin service.

[Engine Driver]

The role is also highly coveted for its access marrying well. Korean Air is a good example where hosties are absolute goddesses, many of whom end up marrying first class passengers.

They've all had plastic surgery to look like that. It's not natural beauty. Korean girls without surgery and make up just look like average, ordinary girls.

[Wicked Roger]

It reminds me of the Beauty Pageants where every girl is a winner; you only have to pay the huge entrance fee. And then the make up fees, and the other fees.

Fees for small provincial out of the way pageants were above PHP20000! I was told this many times but someone whose niece was a contestant and was trying o raise cash to pay her gown, shoes, hair, make up, plus other extras like 'how to stand properly'. Could not believe the bola that I was told about why they needed cash for all the different things. After the pinay won Miss World or Universe (not sure of the difference and don't care) Philstar headline was that she had 59 people to support her including an eyebrow plucker person! This is where we need lots of laughing emojis.

And the pressure the parents are under also to find ways and means to pay it. But pageants are a big thing for pinays where many will drool at the pageants on TV and as you said they have so many different titles. The newspapers will proudly proclaim yet another pinay winner is yet another obscure unheard of until now event LOL.

[Goferring]

In most Asian countries, 'air hostess' is a most coveted, glamorous position. In addition to beauty, height and a college degree, applicants may also need to know someone on the inside who can make sure their application gets through. In places like India and Thailand, money also needs to be paid to influence the decision makers. Thai air hostesses are often daughters of senior military officials or politicians. Have you seen these girls with their two-tone, lady Datejusts? Real, not fake.

The role is also highly coveted for its access marrying well. Korean Air is a good example where hosties are absolute goddesses, many of whom end up marrying first class passengers.

[Goferring]

It reminds me of the Beauty Pageants where every girl is a winner; you only have to pay the huge entrance fee. And then the make up fees, and the other fees.

Correct. That's why girls will proudly announce that they are Ms Environment, Ms Tourism or similar. It's basically just whatever title they could think up for the day.

[BrainDrain]

Do you think this will work?

Do you think its still possible to just pay for ticket from abroad and wait for her at destination outside phil?

Many question there. But your experience will be appreciated.

The chances are stacked against you. If it's your first time to do this, the non-educated province girl is an inexperienced traveller, you are paying her ticket, all of these things are adding to the likelihood that it will NOT work.

What has been demonstrated in the forum is the following:

Men with their pinay GF can and do leave the country together successfully.

Experienced mature girls do leave the country successfully.

I was trying to bring a Filipina to my country, she's smart and educated. Had to help her with her visa application. Even she got stuck very quickly on the immigration questions.

If you do want a Filipina to travel with you, the only proven way is to swing by into Philippines and travel with her.

BD.

[Engine Driver]

That was my thought so now to tell her in a nice way as she thinks this is the passport to the world as she has been sold this junk message by the school.

Thanks RK.

In most Asian countries, 'air hostess' is a most coveted, glamorous position. In addition to beauty, height and a college degree, applicants may also need to know someone on the inside who can make sure their application gets through. In places like India and Thailand, money also needs to be paid to influence the decision makers. Thai air hostesses are often daughters of senior military officials or politicians. Have you seen these girls with their two-tone, lady Datejusts? Real, not fake.

Emirates first class has two dedicated toilet / shower cleaners onboard the A380. These cleaners are called Cabin Service Assistants (as opposed to Cabin Crew). Their tasks are to manage the shower bookings, explain how the shower works and scrub the toilets, so the rich can crap in a clean place. These girls are paid a third of what cabin crew get, so make about USD $800 a month including allowances. They get reduced flight pay, and have to share their hotel room while away (whereas cabin crew get their own rooms). Their entitlements in Dubai are also a lot less.

The interesting thing is that almost all of theses flying toilet cleaners are Pinays! No one else would the job for so little money. They usually have nursing or hospitality degrees. There is almost no prospect for them to get promoted to cabin crew. I guess they can still fuck rich passengers while in foreign ports and dream of migrating to the west.

[Bushes]

To say that US domestic is full of these planes is a bit of a stretch. In the two years the 737 MAX has been in production, 350 have been delivered worldwide. To inject some proportion, the Big 3 US airlines { Delta, American and United } all have total fleets well in excess of 1000. Southwest has a fleet of approximately twice the number of total deliveries, all of which are Boeing 737 family. This is not a long haul aircraft, unless you consider US transcontinental, California-Hawaii or the western fringe of Europe to the northeast US as longhaul.

Cathay is a poor example, as they fly zero wide-bodies, but maintain a {proportionally} quite large fleet of Boeing 777 and 787's.

Airbus also had problems with the introduction of the A320 neo {new engine option} approx. 12-18 months ago as the Pratt & Whitney engine version suffered a high rate of in-flight engine shutdowns.

787 were grounded for a while.

[SaltyPete]

Good question to ask am sure the answer won't be not very many. Many that I know have a college degree and applied directly and went through hat carrier's recruitment process.

That and the height requirement of many carriers would mean many are ineligible for jobs although I read somewhere that Cebu Pacific had lowered the height requirement some time back. For me these 'schools' are means of conning vulnerable cuties who dream of being an air hostie out of their parents (or mongers) hard earned cash. Lot of promises but little substance.

It reminds me of the Beauty Pageants where every girl is a winner; you only have to pay the huge entrance fee. And then the make up fees, and the other fees.

[Wicked Roger]

The first requirement is a college degree from an accredited university (quote from an airline HR representative who I know).

They then train the recruits in their own school.

Freelance flight attendant training schools are a scam. Don't fall for them.

That was my thought so now to tell her in a nice way as she thinks this is the passport to the world as she has been sold this junk message by the school.

Thanks RK.

[Wicked Roger]

But I wonder if another scenario is possible.

What if we pay for her ticket, and ask her to travel alone and meet her in the other country, I am speaking mainly about SEA countries, like Cambodia, Bali, Vietnam, etc. ?

Is police checking why she can travel? To meet who? Who paid for her ticket? Etc. Or will she able to travel on her own if she has the right valid passport?

And I experienced also that when you pay for her, with your foreign credit card, there are checkings in the travel company system that could reject your payment for possible fraud (may be suspicion of stolen card) as it happens once for me for a local flight with Cebu Pacific. So inthat case, to avoid that, my idea would be to go to Phil first, buy the ticket with cash and with her to a travel office, and then travel on same flight, but witout showing that we are together, so she will travel on her own, with her ticket and passport.

Do you think this will work?.

Is a lottery as you may have read from earlier posters. IMHO if you with her then better because if alone more chance of offload, especially if she has never travelled overseas before. The is for me is the rule of thumb on this matter.

At the airport you will be asked and then sign a affidavit which is basically useless but sign it which says she will come back etc. I have signed but never taken it seriously.

Have on the phone some photos of you and her, have a back story and if they ask for her Facebook page she says she not have etc as they will look there also maybe to see if you and her are an item.

Sounds complicated as it is a lotter. Never had an issue myself but know countless who have and some single travellers who breezed through.

You can PM me for more details but good luck.