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  1. #12437

    Confusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    http://www.immigration.gov.ph/images...M-2014-001.pdf

    Since entry was denied at the airport it must be one of the minor offenses otherwise they would have arrested Toronto on the spot and he would have discovered that prison is not more fun in the Philippines at all.

    I see two options, forget about the Philippines and find another mongering destination lots around, or look into having the ban lifted.

    Even if just out of curiosity, I'd look into what happened so I could possibly avoid this sort of problem here or elsewhere in the future.
    The Canuck did not give us enough information to make really informed opinions. I raised thisd in my earlier post which is delayed as I am on a blacklist here myself. I reckon he was flagged in Canuckland. He did not make the most of his time at the airport to gather info on his case. Not good.

  2. #12436
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    ..... Most minor immigration bans have a expiry date.

    Good luck. G.
    http://www.immigration.gov.ph/images...M-2014-001.pdf

    Since entry was denied at the airport it must be one of the minor offenses otherwise they would have arrested Toronto on the spot and he would have discovered that prison is not more fun in the Philippines at all.

    I see two options, forget about the Philippines and find another mongering destination lots around, or look into having the ban lifted.

    Even if just out of curiosity, I'd look into what happened so I could possibly avoid this sort of problem here or elsewhere in the future.

  3. #12435

    Be|lacklisted 101.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto  [View Original Post]
    I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out..
    Were you held in a cell with other undersirables? Did they not send you back to where you came from, on your dime, and not "on the next flight"? These issues are important. See, you made no enquiries, no play at Manila Airport and that is B_A_D.

    Here is probably happened. I assume you are canuck, that you have an enemy you don't know about there and that enemy knows you go to Phils for Pussy. The enemy reported you to the Mounties who flagged you with the Phil authorities, asking them if there was fire with your smoke? That is how your name was "black listed". (it was actually flagged but the Phils don't care and never reported back to the Mounties.).

    I take it your passport is stamped denied entry. Consider getting a new passport.

    You could clear this up in Canuck land by finding out from the Mounties if you were blacklisted / flagged and getting them to refund your plane fare. You have to know if you are flagged anywhere else as the enemy probably made out you were in other places too.

    If you do get in cleared up in Canuck land, there is no guarantee you can enter the Phils again as efficiency is not their strong card. And you don't want to engage with their legal system.

    If you are very sure of your ground, I would approach the Canuck authorities as they probably are keeping an eye on you. You must relax and try to find out who shopped you but you have probably showed your hand to them and they are happy with the result and are planning their next move against you.

    In case anyone wants to criticise the above, I am deadly serious. And: The Philippines is one of the slackest places so be careful. I feel it important to find out if it is only the Philippines. Unlike the others, I am pointing the finger to Canuckland (gut feeling and other stuff I won't go on about).

  4. #12434
    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto  [View Original Post]
    I truly have no idea what happened. I have no problem staying banned from Philippines.
    If you don't know why, it might be an idea to write politely to the PH Embassy in your home country, not to contest the case but to ask if they can release why you were prohibited entry, if there is anything you can do about it and if the ban will expire after X years. Most minor immigration bans have a expiry date.

    Good luck. G.

  5. #12433
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    I'm inclined to agree. Unless Toronto has business or very pressing personal ties that require entry, I'd just chalk it up to (bad) experience and move on.

    Beating the claim is going to suck time, money and perspiration that could be better spent elsewhere. As CM said, there is also the chance that he could gain entry only to find himself subject to a similar trumped up criminal charge.
    This seems like a very sound advice. I was simply asking to see if it was a relatively painless procedure but it doesn't sound that way. And the idea of one of the girls making accusations was just a guess by me, I truly have no idea what happened. I have no problem staying banned from Philippines, I have no business or family ties there. Thanks for the advice.

  6. #12432
    Quote Originally Posted by ChochaMonger  [View Original Post]
    It is fixable at great cost. Nevertheless, why bother? The Flips have make it quite clear that you are unwelcomed in the Philippines. There are worst things than being banned from Cheap Pussy Paradise. Going through the trouble of begging and bribing your way in just for the privilege of paying for cheap Flip puss does not make sense. Whatever charges your ex fuck toy made against you could possibly land you in a Flip jail indefinitely as you await trial in a corrupt judicial system. The immigration officials actually did you a favor when they denied you entry into their jurisdiction. Just take your cock to some other low budget mongering destination. In the future, do not get into relationships with the paid pussy, and keep your identity to yourself. You can still get into Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Indonesia. Just do not aggravate the pussy in those countries to the point that they blacklist you too.
    I'm inclined to agree. Unless Toronto has business or very pressing personal ties that require entry, I'd just chalk it up to (bad) experience and move on.

    Beating the claim is going to suck time, money and perspiration that could be better spent elsewhere. As CM said, there is also the chance that he could gain entry only to find himself subject to a similar trumped up criminal charge.

  7. #12431
    Quote Originally Posted by Transporter  [View Original Post]
    This was so long ago, that I don't know if it is still relevant today. But I remember for some reason I wanted to or had to buy a sim card and get load as I exited the airport (can't remember, but probably because I wanted to update a girl or girls I was meeting so that they could get on there way and we could meet faster as opposed to getting to the hotel and then buying my sim and texting the girl (s). Could save me a few hours). I purchased the sim and the remainder of 1000 pesos for load, figuring that it should last me a good part of a week and I could always add load later. Had them install it and add the load, he showed me the balance of 900 something load and I paid him and left. After a couple of days I ran out of load? I know I was texting a lot of girls, but still that was a bit fast. Did some research and found out that when texting different networks, it cost more but at that time it still wouldn't have burned up my load. Also found out that there are sim cards that people sell that steal load. Possible. Came to the conclusion that they sold me load that had a short life (cheaper for them to buy) so my load expired before I used them.
    This a post from Manila thread.

    The issue with your load is that you were on a casual plan. Your phone is using load just on data pings. The only way to use a prepaid mobile in Philippines is on a "promo".

    I only know Globe promos, I suggest something like GOTSCOMBODD90 which you text to 8080.

    This text and data promo comes with 2 GB mobile data and texts to all networks valid for 7 days (1 week) – for 90 pesos.

    BD.

  8. #12430

    Goodbye Pussy Paradise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto  [View Original Post]
    I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.
    It is fixable at great cost. Nevertheless, why bother? The Flips have make it quite clear that you are unwelcomed in the Philippines. There are worst things than being banned from Cheap Pussy Paradise. Going through the trouble of begging and bribing your way in just for the privilege of paying for cheap Flip puss does not make sense. Whatever charges your ex fuck toy made against you could possibly land you in a Flip jail indefinitely as you await trial in a corrupt judicial system. The immigration officials actually did you a favor when they denied you entry into their jurisdiction. Just take your cock to some other low budget mongering destination. In the future, do not get into relationships with the paid pussy, and keep your identity to yourself. You can still get into Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Indonesia. Just do not aggravate the pussy in those countries to the point that they blacklist you too.

  9. #12429
    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto  [View Original Post]
    I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.
    Sad to hear that but your reasoning could be logically possible as they can file some complaint with the police and then go to the BI. Not care if true just they are pinay and they must be right etc. I know others threatened with the same and no reason was given to them at the airport.

    Plenty lawyers around but many have the habit of charging high and doing zero. And you won't find out until you have paid a lot beforehand!

    But PM me I know a good one who represents old Manila friends assuming you want to go that that route, he has helped a few old friends in the past including me.

    Westies. The 6 month PP rule applies to many countries and if taking a pinay out of the Philippines it is the first thing I ask her. As for US customs not knowing the rules. No surprises there LOL. Some ask and you cans how a return 'ticket' that you buy for around $10 but depends on the airline and how much sophistication the system at check in has. Many I know use this method with the budget airlines whose staff will accept a paper ticket and can't look up the booking but on bigger carriers am not too sure.

  10. #12428
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    Also 2 x in the last year a check-in agent (once in US, once in Asia) swiped my PP, took a long look at the computer screen, and informed me that I could not board the outbound flight from US to Phils. Reason: There was no return flight listed on their computer (no phils outbound), and I did not have a pre-approved 59-day visa (their computers caught this)
    Home airports may also deny boarding if you have Residency or Citizenship documents that do not appear official or are not translated. When in doubt make life as easy and as simple as possible for airline and immigration personnel and don't rely in their knowledge of the fine points of legislation.

    Cheers. G.

  11. #12427
    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto  [View Original Post]
    I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.
    Interesting. Is there a way one can find out before boarding the inbound flight is he is blacklisted as such?

    I am aware (starting about 1 year ago) that the US outbound airlines might try and stop you from boarding if there might be an issue (they are responsible for returning you from Phils to your starting point if you get the boot). For example, if your PP is near the end of its expiry, and within the 6-month limit for Phils, you might be denied boarding in the US (because the airline is responsible for your deport / return). Also 2 x in the last year a check-in agent (once in US, once in Asia) swiped my PP, took a long look at the computer screen, and informed me that I could not board the outbound flight from US to Phils. Reason: There was no return flight listed on their computer (no phils outbound), and I did not have a pre-approved 59-day visa (their computers caught this). In reality I had outbound flights on other airlines, but past the 30- and 59-day limits. Both agents told me I could not proceed. The first agent, in the US, worked for a major American airline. I mentioned to her that Americans can stay up to one year by repeatedly extending the original 30-day visa to 59-day visas. "Not. Must have a 59-day visa for that". I showed her the (much) later phils outbound ticket on the other airline. "Sorry. You can't board. I am Filipina and I know my country's Immigration laws". She had the look and accent. Well, musta mahal. I asked her to call a supervisor and look thru the Phils Immigration rules. She did just that. She and the super took more than 5 minutes reading the regulations, and they found it. "Aha. There is exception for Americans. Did not know that. You may proceed sir. ". At another airport in Asia I ran into the same thing; had to call a supervisor to help find the correct Immigration rule. Should have asked them for a screen capture of it. In both instances, their computers red-flagged the issue to start.

    If computers are this sophisticated, why didn't the airline's system flag something?

  12. #12426

    Blacklisted

    I was recently denied entry at Manila airport for being on the blacklist. I was given no explanation or reason and I left on the next flight out. I have no idea how I got on the list as I have no criminal background, never broke any laws during my previous trips and have no problems entering other countries. The only thing I can think of is one of my long term girls that I have cut off recently making some false reports to authorities. Some of those girls probably have my info because I have taken them on trips abroad and in some cases I had to sign forms at immigration to get them out. Can anyone recommend a good lawyer that can help me with this? Is it even fixable? Or should I just forget about Philippines? Thanks in advance for any help.

  13. #12425
    Quote Originally Posted by Free2  [View Original Post]
    Good catch. I wanted to quote but the quote was from the Manila forum where they were jabbering about Globe and sim cards, which should be in the General Info section IMO.
    So I went to the General Info and grabbed your post JUST TO USE THE QUOTE TEXT (and brackets etc) so it would show up as a quote. Sorry, I didn't realize it referred to the post!
    Next time just click on 'Reply with quote' in the Manila forum, copy the entire text of the post (including the brackets etc), go to the General Info forum, click 'Add Report' and paste the copied text.

  14. #12424
    Quote Originally Posted by RedKilt  [View Original Post]
    How did you manage to quote me saying something I didn't say Free2??

    I have lived here for 21 years. I don't buy load. I have post-paid accounts and have had them for 20 years with Globe.

    When I click on "view original post" in your quote I am taken to my quote about Cebu being dead and nothing about buying 100 php load cards?

    Weird stuff.
    Good catch. I wanted to quote but the quote was from the Manila forum where they were jabbering about Globe and sim cards, which should be in the General Info section IMO.

    So I went to the General Info and grabbed your post JUST TO USE THE QUOTE TEXT (and brackets etc) so it would show up as a quote. Sorry, I didn't realize it referred to the post!

  15. #12423
    Quote Originally Posted by Free2  [View Original Post]
    Damn good idea!
    How did you manage to quote me saying something I didn't say Free2??

    I have lived here for 21 years. I don't buy load. I have post-paid accounts and have had them for 20 years with Globe.

    When I click on "view original post" in your quote I am taken to my quote about Cebu being dead and nothing about buying 100 php load cards?

    Weird stuff.

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