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[Goferring]

I was vid-calling Mrs G at a time when I was alone and the room was free of incriminating evidence. All was going well. I was sitting on the bed chatting away. Then suddenly the girly I had invited up later came thru the door, much earlier than expected, talking in a full voice on speaker phone. Next to her was her girlfriend doing the same thing. The ruckus would have been clearly audible by my phone's mic.

Needless to say, I shit myself and tried to get them to be quiet and disappear. Obviously this is impossible while in the middle of a video call. At some point I've had my arms flapping around, getting them to shut up and generally get out of the room (which the girls instinctively did) and accidentally rotated the camera to the front screen. This gave Mrs G a full view of my panicked face, the girls walking through the door unhindered, my arms flapping around and then them making a hasty retreat. These girls clearly were not old haggards, there to clean the room.

To say Mrs G was unimpressed and demanding an explanation is an understatement. Obviously, there is no explanation for two hot chicks to be walking straight through the door into her husband's room at 8 pm. All I could do was play stupid and repeatedly say that there is no one in the room and I don't know what she saw or is talking about. There is no way I'm going to get away with this totally unscathed and the return home is going to be eventful.

My biggest fuck up was not keeping the front door locked. The one thing that I didn't realise was that the AirBnB that I was staying at has residential (not commercial hotel) door latch sets. This means that they must be manually locked everytime rather than automatically locking whenever the door closes (as hotel doors do).

Moral of the story: always check your door and know whether it locks automatically or manually.

Be careful out there.

Cheers, G.

[Dg8787]

Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??

In the referenced post AB was about eating around the world. In other references it was that AB was a fellow monger around the world. In some of his episodes he would point out some pnp locations.

[Mr Enternational]

Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??

Maybe because he entrusted his heart and tried to help out a woman who was eventually found out to be fooling around with another guy. Then he killed himself like the same day or day after when he found out. I guess that scenario plays out more often in Thailand than PI, or at least it is seen in the news more often in Thailand.

[Goferring]

By any chance are you a prodigy of Anthony Bourdain. Rest his soul!

Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??

[Goferring]

Arriving in Cebu today, Jan 3rd. Staying near Ayala for about a week.

PM if anyone wants to meet over beers or lies.

Cheers, G.

[Engine Driver]

Do you still think charity is good? Now, that sweet young thing is marooned in Makati without bus fare back to Caloocan for New Year's Eve because her self-reliance died the day that she learned some mongers are willing to wire large chunks of free cash to her from their rich country. Instead of giving rub and tugs to make an honest living, she now sits at Western Union remittance agencies with her new Samsung Galaxy phone using the free Wi-Fi to message pleas for cash donations from charitable mongers.

Now, you experienced firsthand how mongers providing welfare turn the hardest working girls into lazy mendicants who no longer have the pride and work ethic that once drove them to work that pussy until it squirt, never dreaming of asking foreigners for handouts. Unfortunately, the expectation of free cash remittances from abroad will now lead to that sweet young thing stranding herself in places far worse than the bus terminal in Makati, as she waits for a Western Union hero to save her from poverty.

It will not be long before the new Samsung Galaxy ends up in the nearest five six pawned for bus fare to Caloocan or snatched.

Chocha Monger, you are spot on. Good post.

I agree that free handouts destroy a Pinay's resilience and work ethic. So why do western men from rich countries keep falling into this trap? Paternal instincts cloud their sound judgement. They think they are doing something to help out the poor Pinay in distress and charity makes them feel better. Maybe we should stop interfering in the natural order of things.

I will explain the circumstances surrounding this poor massage girl, relate it back to what Choca Monger says and you can understand how everything goes wrong in a Pinay's life. This girl came back to Makati from Caloocan after Christmas to make a few extra pesos before heading back home for NYE. Caloocan is only about 1. 5 hours away from Makati so this was a feasible plan. On the 28 Dec she had one western massage client at her shop. After the flip, he points to his hard on and asks for sex. She refuses. He then offers her 3,500 PHP for one pop, right there on the table. Thats right, $70 USD for 10 minutes work. She still refuses, but goes into the lounge and brings back her co-worker, introduces her to the monger and leaves. The co-worker gladly accepts the mission.

On the 29 Dec, it pissses down all day and night in Makati and there is not a single walk-in monger. So she goes home empty handed. Not to worry, there is always tomorrow to get a few extra mongers and a few extra pesos to afford the bus fare home. However, the rain does not stop on the 30 Dec. It's still pisssing down. Her boss texts her at 8. 00 pm and tells her he is not coming in to open the shop and for her to take the night off. Panic doesn't quite set in yet as she knows that Mr Rich, Dumb Westerner will just send her a nice chunk of money to Western Union to rescue her. Only by this time, I've had enough of all this drama and pull the plug. So she then goes to her cousin's family and they won't lend her the 100 PHP saying they too are broke. She goes back to her apartment in a sheer state of panic now.

Now if I hadn't interfered in the natural order, would things have turned out differently? Would this Pinay have maintained her work ethic and not worried about pride? Probably yes. She would have taken the FS assignment and pocketed a nice 3,500 PHP which would have been enough for her to sponsor a massive NYE's party at her family's house. Why did she knock back the FS assignment? Because she assumed she had a rich foreigner BF who would always keeping sending money and that spreading her legs on the massage table was now beneath her.

For those who are wondering what a five-six is which CM refers to, that denotes the 20% weekly interest payable on micro loans. That is, if a Pinay borrows 50 pesos, she must pay back the money lender 60 peso the following week.

[Kabul Guy]

Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.

OK I will give yiu the less than one in a million odds of someone making it from abjet poverty to wealth as proof that some poor people can handle money.

However they are just about as rare as unicorns.

[Dg8787]

Most of them are fake. This craze has been going in Thailand and Philippines for years. Braces equates to wealth and status. It's kind of like lower class Indonesian men growing their finger nail long on their pinky. It shows they are not field labourers.

https://medium.com/navigo/braces-are...a-d974431c9e9e

I like the fake braces! Makes them look cute. I like cute and a little squeal when I am boring.

Love my second chance to bang young hotties. I am only as old as the hotties I am banging!

[Engine Driver]

What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.

I have seen pictures of 50 somethings with tin grins.

Most of them are fake. This craze has been going in Thailand and Philippines for years. Braces equates to wealth and status. It's kind of like lower class Indonesian men growing their finger nail long on their pinky. It shows they are not field labourers.

https://medium.com/navigo/braces-are...a-d974431c9e9e

[ForkTruck]

What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.

One of my girls is a dentist and she puts a lot of braces on pinays. I asked why they wanted them when in many cases they didn't need them and probably had more pressing expenses to cover, She told me the girls look at them as a status symbol leting others know they have or a least had some money. She does 1 to 3 sets everyday. She is making a good living doing this.

[Breadman]

Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.

And there are those with millions who died when a fifteen foot stack of hoarded newspapers fell on them. In the end all that's remember of them was the neighbor saying "I thought they were broke, they never spent any money".

[Goferring]

Poor people with no experience handling money will always end up broke because they simply do not know how to budget and do not expect to have money in the future.

Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.

[Kabul Guy]

Bottom line is the girls think they are poor and will stay poor even if they save some of the donated money. Do not realize if they save little by little it adds up.

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Poor people with no experience handling money will always end up broke because they simply do not know how to budget and do not expect to have money in the future.

They will spend and give to family in the expectation that when they need it returned it will be, not always in the form of an explicit loan repayment but often in help, room and board etc, when they need it.

Culturally they believe that savings is done in the form of giving to family and getting back when they need it. Of course in every family there are some free loaders taking advantage of this and that will always keep the girls poor.

I had a long term GF from SA back home. She was from a very poor family. One day I gave her $2000 CDN to pay off her credit card, within two weeks her sister, just as poor, got a tax refund. Instead of paying off some debts sister bought tickets to Vancouver to see a concert. GF bought VIP backstage tickets on the newly paid off credit card.

[Kabul Guy]

....She spent that money to get braces. Her teeth were perfect before. She mentioned about braces when I was with her. I told her she does not really need it and let it go.

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What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.

I have seen pictures of 50 somethings with tin grins.

[Sammon]

Bottom line is the girls think they are poor and will stay poor even if they save some of the donated money. Do not realize if they save little by little it adds up.

Another problem is parents baby their children treating them like small kids even though they are 18-25 . Many do not even bother girl has to work hard to better herself. Although jobs are tough there are plenty of girls working in grocery stores, shop malls etc. Granted pay is low but will help help their resume with experience.

My previous girl was living in Lapu Lapu. She got a job in Ayala Mall. It takes roughly an hour and half to get there by Jeepney. Not counting hot, sweaty, sardine can comfort. She refused to go. Is it better to earn money or sitting at home with no money?

Supporting foreigners come and go with no guarantees. There is always a better girl to be had with your money. Once they reach a certain age it will hard to attract sponsors.

There was a very pretty girl in Angeles I knew. High flying and earning good money. Lost touch with her. After many years I met her at a Manila mall toting three kids. She smiled at me but I did not recognize her. She came and talked to me and reminded me who she was. Her and the kids wearing hand me down clothes and looking miserable. She said she was married but now alone. I gave her some money for old time sake. Obviously did not save any money and made wrong choices in life.