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[Member #4471]

I agree. That was an excellent, enjoyable report. Thank you for giving back, and for raising a topic that's not often discussed here. Similar to KK, you've tempted me to try that route but I don't think I'm going the attempt it yet. I look forward to subsequent reports descrfivbing the balance of your trip.

GE.

Day 1 Evening Report:

After my craigslist date left the room (I'll call her my CL date from now on) I rested a little and waited for one of my friends to come over to go out and get something to eat while the 3rd person in our party was waiting for his backpage date to show up. We ate a MOA and then the two of went to EDSA. I know this is not the best place but we were tired and didn't want to be out too late. We arrived at EDSA around 7:30 pm and it was almost what I pictured it would be. We hopped from bar to bar and there were a few nice ones there, but I was just way too tired. I worked all day before I left Korea, only got about 1 hour sleep on the 4 hour plane ride and maybe only about 2 hours of sleep when I arrived (3 hours sleep in 36 hours will do that). My friend was defiantly going to pick a girl for LT. While at EDSA our other friend sent us a message saying that his backpage date was on her period and there was blood everywhere. We were laughing our ass off. Later (next day) he told us that shortly after the girl left the room, there was a knock on his door. He opened it and there was a guy from the hotel wanting know if he need turn-down service. My friend call him in and showed him the mess asked if he could get someone to clean up, the guy call another person to come and they changed the sheets, blanks, pillows and towels (when he said it was everywhere, he was not joking). After everything was done, he was so embarrassed, he have them 500 P each. He said the backpage girl was a dead fish in sack and he paid 6000 P + 1000 P to clean up. I left EDSA at about 9 pm and went to sleep, my friend stayed behind. He did get a good little spinner (2000 P bar fine + 4000 P for all night). He said he had a great time and she was very energetic. He was also nice enough to share her with our other friend in the morning and the three of them went out for breakfast before he sent her on her way.

Side Note 1: I live in Seoul Korea but I'm an American with mostly German heritage.

Side Note 2: While at EDSA I saw, some Korean guys come in and the ladies treated them like rock stars. They flocked around waiting to be chosen.

Side Note 3: I don't like most Korean guys. (they are stuck up, rude and think they are a real power player in the world, but in fact they are not).

Day 2: Will be next.

LM.

[BrainDrain]

You favor "mature ladies", a topic we don't hear too much about on this forum, and your first date experience with a 47 year old was pretty sexciting. Methinks there would be lots of opportunity for rewarding mature relationships in the Philippines, but I am not quite ready for that yet.

On my Angeles visit in October last year I enjoyed the pleasure of a 47 year old female company executive. The most amazing BBBJ that kept me cuming and cuming.

Like the other poster, I didn't go back as the excitement of a 20 year old is just so much more enticing, for me.

[GoodEnough]

A great first up report there Lunchmeat. You planned your visit well, you used ISG to good advantage, and, unlike some, you put in a field report giving something back to the ISG readers. You favor "mature ladies", a topic we don't hear too much about on this forum, and your first date experience with a 47 year old was pretty sexciting. Methinks there would be lots of opportunity for rewarding mature relationships in the Philippines, but I am not quite ready for that yet.

I look forward to your promised future report / reports.

I agree. That was an excellent, enjoyable report. Thank you for giving back, and for raising a topic that's not often discussed here. Similar to KK, you've tempted me to try that route but I don't think I'm going the attempt it yet. I look forward to subsequent reports descrfivbing the balance of your trip.

GE.

[KongKing]

I'm here to follow up with a FR of my trip. Your advice was very helpful and this was my first time going the PI.
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This FR is getting longer than I thought. I'll post another report about the evening later.
LM.

A great first up report there Lunchmeat. You planned your visit well, you used ISG to good advantage, and, unlike some, you put in a field report giving something back to the ISG readers. You favor "mature ladies", a topic we don't hear too much about on this forum, and your first date experience with a 47 year old was pretty sexciting. Methinks there would be lots of opportunity for rewarding mature relationships in the Philippines, but I am not quite ready for that yet.

I look forward to your promised future report / reports.

[SaltyPete]

Yes spot on. Last week I met a nice student at Spicy Fingers in Greenbelt who was in desperate need for some exam fee support.

Love Spicey Fingers! I have always taken a date, but I usually spy a table of girls that seem to be wanting "company".

[Chocha Monger]

Thought I would post this one here for a more general discussion as I'm sure it could also be an activity in Manila and AC:

http://philippineslifestyle.com/blog...ng-with-women/

New news or old news? Fact or fiction?

It is fact, the original story can be found in local Cebu news. The amendment of Section 3 of Republic Act No. 9208 made paying the girls illegal. It doesn't matter where the sex and payment takes place. So, it applies to dating site girls or girls at the mall. The girls are free from any penalty but if they admit to being paid or compensated for providing the monger sexual services, the monger can be arrested and charged under the law. Interestingly, they are not claiming that the girls were coerced. According to the news article they were enticed with payments of 2,000 pesos per day which is several times the daily wage for regular work in Cebu. The NBI released the girls because they cannot charge them. They are hoping the girls will voluntarily return to testify against their customers. I can't see any reason why they will do that unless they are being paid to do so.

The Koreans were paying big money for their tour packages and it was advertised online. The Filipino authorities smelled a chance to make some big money. The operation was Korean run for Korean clients only. They obviously did not pay their tea taxes.

[Omega 3]

Thought I would post this one here for a more general discussion as I'm sure it could also be an activity in Manila and AC:

http://philippineslifestyle.com/blog...ng-with-women/

New news or old news? Fact or fiction?

Yes, saw the same article in yesterday's Cebu Sunstar.

First guess is that this was the result of a confluence of atypical factors, including: (a) the NBI's efforts to verify the presence of "Korean Mafia in Cebu" as announced by Malacanang; and (b) this target was a high profile "syndicated" sex tour from Korea to Cebu, with website and internet advertising, in which the fee was reportedly US $5,000 per Korean customer.

It would be unlikely and surprising indeed if such attention were to be expanded to target individual, low-key activities, even though Cebu in my experience generally has been more prudish than Manila or certainly Angeles (but not as prudish as, say, Panay / Ilo Ilo). Plus, as RK might say, "ningas kugon".

Here are excerpts from a follow-up article in today's Cebu Sunstar:

"Korean mafia? The National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) 7 is still looking if the sex tourism syndicate uncovered in Lapu-Lapu City was part of a Korean mafia that President Rodrigo Duterte revealed.

"NBI 7 said the Koreans were enticed by the three major players of the syndicate who is still at large. The NBI 7 is also coordinating with the Korean consulate as they are having a hard time cracking the websites used to operate these sex tour packages. Nine Koreans were arrested by the NBI 7, in coordination with the Provincial Women's Commission, after they hired a syndicate that hires trafficked Filipino women for escorts and sexual partners in their vacation here in Cebu.

"Magpale, who heads the Provincial Women's Commission, said the bureau's operation success coincided with the National Women's Month. "I am happy that it was successful. We are sure that other foreigners are doing this to our women as it is a lucrative business but we will monitor them," she said.

"Radaza said the Lapu-Lapu City Government will put up measures to mitigate and consider all the aspects of the sex tour packages offered in Korea. He encouraged Korean hotel and beach owners to report any suspicious-looking foreigners. They will be put under monitoring following the rescue of seven Filipina women aged 19-21 from their Korean sexual partners in Marigondon early Saturday morning."

-- Of course, it is always prudent to be low-profile and discreet, especially if you are one of those "suspicious looking foreigners"!

YMMV.

OM.

[Member #4471]

Hello,

Thank you for the great Info!

Like Crazy4 Thai, I too have been planning my first trip the PI and for most of my planning I went back to September 2016 and read every post in the General, Makati, Manila and Manila Hotel threads to date (what I'm trying to say is that I have done my homework like a good form member). It's funny that C4 T's plan is very similar to mine. I arrive with a couple other guys on 1 March and leave 5 March, and this is our first time. The information C4 T received from SaltyPete, BaboyDave, GoodEnough and others answered nearly all my questions; however, I still have just a few more. I would like to post a couple here; however, I would like to know if it's okay to PM some of you guys or you can PM your answers to me. I will be staying in Passy at the Golden Phoenix Hotel and I'm not sure if it's guest friendly or not (if not, it's too late because if I cancel I will not get a refund, should have thought of that before). I know Passy is not the best area to stay to monger, but it just has to be that way. I can explain later in a PM because the reason might compromise my other two friends' ID. If I find a girl in Makati or another place away from Passy, would it be a real pain in the ass to commute back to my room in Passy or would it be better to just get a cheap room in that area for one night. I'm not sure about the whole overnight thing too, maybe just a lot of S / T action. We are planning a day / overnight trip to AC on Friday, not sure if it's worth spending the time to go, but this will most likely be my only time to come to the PI and it's just one of those "must see once things" people tell me. I was lucky to find a small window to break away from home (ball and chain) in Seoul Korea (I retired from the Army couple years ago here). Besides the advice you gave C4 T, any other tips you can give will be very much appreciated. I will give full FRs and I will also include FRs that did not go well so other newcomers and learn from my mistakes..

Hello,

I'm here to follow up with a FR of my trip. Your advice was very helpful and this was my first time going the PI.

A few days before I arrived, I posted an ad on CL casual encounters M4W and stated that I was looking for mature ladies (what can I say, I like them). I received a lot of replies from both young and old. There were two ladies that looked interesting so I replied and told them I might contact them when I arrive.

Day 1: Day Time (Day 1 Evening FR will follow): Arrived at 1 am Thursday morning (2 March) and went to my hotel in Pasay. Later that morning, one of my friends that I was traveling with arranged to meet someone he found on backpage later that night (that report will come later) and it motivated me to contact one of the ladies on CL. I sent message to one of the women that I was interested in saying that I was going to be going to the Mall of Asia around 10:30 am. She quickly replied and asked if we could meet at 12:30 at Starbucks. My friends and I walked around the mall and I went to Starbucks at 12:30 and she was already there. I was surprised because I heard that they are usually late when you set an appointment. I saw her and she looked better in person than in the picture she sent me, but a little heavy on the makeup (later I saw her without makeup and I told her she looks better with less makeup, that made her very happy). We chatted a little while to get to know each other and she is 47 years old and I'll be 49 in a few months. She was very curious about why I picked her first because she assumed that I did get a lot of replies to my ad. I simply said that there was something about her photo that I liked and her message seemed gentle and not pushy or desperate. She also wanted to know why didn't I go for younger ladies that are so plentiful in the PI. I told her that IMHO, that mature ladies know what they want and most know how to give and receive pleasure (also, older women are happy to get the attention and show their appreciation in the sack, but I didn't tell her that). We talked for only about 10 minutes and she said, "well what do you think, are you ready to go back to your room?" I was very surprised and I thought I would have to hang out awhile and have coffee or something. My hotel is only about 10/15 walk from MOA, but we jumped into a taxi because it was raining. We went to my room and she liked the room because I booked a suite. We sat on the couch and I made her some coffee from the mini-bar. She is very elegant and later found out she is very passionate. She is well educated with a great vocabulary and travels a lot, we talked and she showed me pictures of her recent trips around southeast Asia. After about 15 minutes she leaned into me ask if wanted to kiss her. We went at it like two couples have makeup sex and it seemed that she has not had sex in a long time. She did tell me that she broke up with her BF about 9 months ago, and her friend told her about my ad on CL (not sure if that's true or not). We moved the bedroom and boy she was horny and had decent body for her age and was clean shaven and love watching me eat her out. She was very clean without odor or anything, she asked me if I want to use a condom or pull out because she was worried about getting pregnant, we used a condom. Over the next 2 ½ hours, we went at it 3 times. It was great, I told her that I'm meeting my friends for dinner and she was cool and she left at around 3 pm. As she was about to leave the room I gave her 2 K that was folded in my hand and said here's something for the taxi and to make up for the fact that I didn't buy coffee like my ad said. She didn't even look at it and put it in her pocket. As I was walking her out of the hotel, said that she would like to meet again before I go, and to contact her if I wanted.

This FR is getting longer than I thought. I'll post another report about the evening later.

Later, LM.

[BrainDrain]

Thought I would post this one here for a more general discussion as I'm sure it could also be an activity in Manila and AC:

Nine Korean sex tourists have been arrested in Cebu under anti [CodeWord908] laws.

The group was detained by National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) agents for allegedly engaging in sexual relations with women aged 19 to 21 who were employed by a Korea-based escort service company.

The tour was arranged by a group of three Koreans and a local Filipina, who sold 250,000 peso sex tour packages over the internet, which constitutes a [CodeWord908] offence in the Philippines.

The arrested Koreans, all in their forties and fifties, were caught in bed with their escorts in a beachfront hotel in Barangay Marigondon, Lapu-Lapu City, at about 1am on Friday.

Speaking to the Cebu Daily News, NBI special investigator Arnel Pura said: “The suspects are part of what we called sex tourism which prey on Cebuanas. We received an information about their operations so we hatched a plan to arrest them.”

http://philippineslifestyle.com/blog...ng-with-women/

New news or old news? Fact or fiction?

[Lakeside]

I wish I was in Manila this weekend. Apparently exam tuition is due next week and girls are scrambling to get some cash. It could be good fishing at the freelancer areas and social / dating sites. You all do your part for higher education, ok?

Yes spot on. Last week I met a nice student at Spicy Fingers in Greenbelt who was in desperate need for some exam fee support.

[GoodEnough]

I am assuming that one of the best things about AC now, must be that it is not as accessible as some places. Once it does get accessible to the masses, it could ruin things. That said, I should look at these inconveniences as a blessing perhaps.

I think you will find when you get to AC that it's readily accessible by the masses, as substantiated by the hordes of Koreans, and most recently Chinese who often flood the bars. It's only a 2 hour drive from Manila, and once out of Manila, the highway is good, so it's not a hassle for those guys to get there.

GE.

[Dg8787]

I prefer to think of myself as a realist. Just trying to help out both the girls and guys. :)

Maybe a higher education supporter for pinays! I will try to schedule the timing of my trip next year for the Class of 2018 to do my part.

[SaltyPete]

SP: Such a romantic.

I prefer to think of myself as a realist. Just trying to help out both the girls and guys. :)

[Wicked Roger]

Yes, agree with this. Semester finishes in March. The schools want accounts to be in order for results to be released. So if the student graduates this year, they will not graduate unless they are paid up.

Happy days.

School returns after Easter.

BD.

And some need cash to pay for the exam!

Always wondered how crazy the system is where you pay fees and exams separately but it happens. I know some who were in that position and was asked by their honey / moneykos if this was true. I surprised them when said "yes some schools charge extra". That plus the countless mindless "projects" they are set where the professor gets the them / parent to pay for things the school should supply IMHO. I remember one where they had to have a camera so I said "ask teacher as he set the project so he supplies the camera" and recently the CHED (I think) has made mention about field trips not being compulsory as some folks can't afford these silly things yet fear the sibling will be failed if they can't go. So as many more experienced contributors know the system in the country is far from perfect.

So now is the time gents as am sure some of you are finding out.

[Eszpresszo]

Google " transportation Clark to Pattaya" and one site will give you three options. Look (below the line) here for a thread on transportation between Manila and AC.

Thanks, Salty Pete. I also did a bit of research on CRK. A lot of flights to CRK don't make it to the travel search engines, as it is serviced by many obscure carriers. So, I found out who services CRK and worked backwards from there. And of course, I came across a lot of regional airlines like Tiger and Cathay Dragon that service AC with low fares, from various points in Asia that could serve as hubs to different places. Meanwhile, I discovered that SIN is actually a pretty good hub with a lot of cheap fares to other points in Asia, and airfares to the US are competitive.

I am assuming that one of the best things about AC now, must be that it is not as accessible as some places. Once it does get accessible to the masses, it could ruin things. That said, I should look at these inconveniences as a blessing perhaps.