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[Amavida]

Also Dr. Willie Lee in Malabanis behind Petron gas station is a good bet 0917 791 1588.

Oh my God! I just hurt myself laughing so hard. Seriously? Going to a gas station for medical treatment? Ah, cheap charlies, the depths to which they sink is astonishing.

AV.

[Dg8787]

Ok, this convince me and you point makes sense. But why do they collect the health information, just for statistics? Do doctors really have the duty of notification for all STD, or just HIV?

Well, I had a problem once and I did not go to doctor. I tried self medication and as most STD in Philippines are chlamydia, I just took Zitromax and it worked. But I would rather know a doctor in AC who won't report. Does anybody know one in AC?

There are many labs on Surla St. By MacArthur that do testing while you wait. You will be able to see their signs. STD Testing. Some offer treatment. Not sure if they do reporting. You can ask them.

Also Dr. Willie Lee in Malabanis behind Petron gas station is a good bet 0917 791 1588.

[Amavida]

Ok, this convince me and you point makes sense. But why do they collect the health information, just for statistics?

No.

Do doctors really have the duty of notification for all STD, or just HIV?

Yes.

Well, I had a problem once and I did not go to doctor. I tried self medication and as most STD in Philippines are chlamydia, I just took Zitromax and it worked. But I would rather know a doctor in AC who won't report. Does anybody know one in AC?

Good for you.

Its a third world country. They lots of departments & programs (Start reading about HAMIS) but of course shortage of funds hobbles progress / effectiveness.

AV.

[Hutsori]

Ok, this convince me and you point makes sense. But why do they collect the health information, just for statistics? Do doctors really have the duty of notification for all STD, or just HIV?

Well, I had a problem once and I did not go to doctor. I tried self medication and as most STD in Philippines are chlamydia, I just took Zitromax and it worked. But I would rather know a doctor in AC who won't report. Does anybody know one in AC?

I'm not a health care worker so this is just a guess: if STI information is collected and aggregated (I don't know whether it is in the Philippines) it's likely done to give the gov't and health care workers an idea of what's happening, where the flare ups are, and where to devote personnel and scarce resources. Countries that are aid recipients, say from the UN or WHO or foreign governments, find that providing such info may further their application's chance to be awarded funds, and such info may even be required by donors.

Often with chlamydia a person may have gonorrhea too, and this STI can be asymptomatic. Moreover some STI's have become resistant to the primary medicine so another, more closely held one must be used. (Oh Christ, I hope I haven't re-ignited the boring safe-sex debate. There is the safe-sex thread - go there.) I've been to hospitals and clinics and when paying cash I've never been asked for an ID except when picking up test results from the lab (in a large hospital). You could give an assumed name, get tested, and then return to the doctor's office rather than the lab, and the nurse will get the lab results on your behalf. Just an idea. I think your concerns are overwrought; there's no STI squad rounding up the infected and processing them for deportation, though if a foreigner tested positive for HIV or Hep C I think the gov't may, and ought to, act.

[Bamboo Pete]

..... It certainly can be done. Is there really a need? Banning the entry of a foreigner who at some point before tested positive for the clap does little if anything to advance public health when the borders are open to everyone else who aren't tested. It's pointless.....

Ok, this convince me and you point makes sense. But why do they collect the health information, just for statistics? Do doctors really have the duty of notification for all STD, or just HIV?

…… I fear this would cause many foreigners to forego treatment locally and seek it elsewhere…….

Well, I had a problem once and I did not go to doctor. I tried self medication and as most STD in Philippines are chlamydia, I just took Zitromax and it worked. But I would rather know a doctor in AC who won't report. Does anybody know one in AC?

[Red Kilt]

So what's the upshot? Did you help someone pass? If so, congratulations. My score is one taker = one passer.

Purely for information only. I have no vested interest.

I get lots of PMs asking me about college passing rates and about quality of education here and there so this is merely adding to the data.

As Chea says, although private schools may offer quick and easy employment, most graduates of BEED and BSED still choose to undergo the difficult process of passing the LET and so getting hired in public schools, as being employed by the government means better job security, better benefits and around 30% better salary. A teacher who has not passed the LET is designated as an "Unlicensed Teacher" and most teachers are uncomfortable with this label.

[Cbea20]

So what's the upshot? Did you help someone pass? If so, congratulations. My score is one taker = one passer.

The license is required only for government schools. Non-exam takers and non-passers can still be hired by private institutions.

I know some guys are paying in various ways for their friends to attend College / University.

The data for passers for the Licensure Examination for Teachers (L. E. T.) given last August 17,2014 has just been announced. Graduate teachers must pass the L. E. T before they can get a license to teach.

Results:

25,301 elementary teachers out of 70,786 examinees (35.74%) passed the Elementary exam.

26,767 secondary teachers out of 77,803 examinees (34.40%) passed the Secondary exam.

You can work out that there are large numbers of graduate teachers who cannot teach because they can't pass the LET.

I also have the data regarding which schools were most successful in garnering passers and which ones were abysmally poor. I will share that data on PM if anyone is worried about where their hard-earned is going.

Note this is for TEACHING only, and not for the incredibly over-subscribed Hotel & Restaurant Management programs.

[Red Kilt]

I know some guys are paying in various ways for their friends to attend College / University.

The data for passers for the Licensure Examination for Teachers (L. E. T.) given last August 17,2014 has just been announced. Graduate teachers must pass the L. E. T before they can get a license to teach.

Results:

25,301 elementary teachers out of 70,786 examinees (35.74%) passed the Elementary exam.

26,767 secondary teachers out of 77,803 examinees (34.40%) passed the Secondary exam.

You can work out that there are large numbers of graduate teachers who cannot teach because they can't pass the LET.

I also have the data regarding which schools were most successful in garnering passers and which ones were abysmally poor. I will share that data on PM if anyone is worried about where their hard-earned is going.

Note this is for TEACHING only, and not for the incredibly over-subscribed Hotel & Restaurant Management programs.

[Bamboo Pete]

It certainly can be done. Is there really a need? Banning the entry of a foreigner who at some point before tested positive for the clap does little if anything to advance public health when the borders are open to everyone else who aren't tested. It's pointless. Where on the earth has this been implemented?

Ok, you convince me, this really wouldn't make sense. But what are they doing with the health data? Just for statistics? Do the doctors really have the duty of notification, and if yes, for which deseases?

I fear this would cause many foreigners to forego treatment locally and seek it elsewhere

Actually, I had 2 problems over the last 5 years and I did not go to doctor. As most spread STD in Philippines is chlamydia, I tried it with self medication (Zitromax) and fortunately it worked well.

Brings me to the question. Does anybody know a doctor in AC who would not report?

[Hutsori]

I used to believe that but things are changing. Yes, it's still fubar in many ways but look back at your first experience of the Immigration office in Manila & compare it to today. Back in 2005 I remember standing a throng for two hours outside in the heat, finally getting to a crummy wooden counter behind which were filing cabinets stacked 10 high stretching back a kilometer (so it seemed). Now it all computers, air-conditioning & very short waits.

Yeah It would be great to keep the diseased out but where on earth has this ever been implemented successfully?

AV.

At ports of entry it's easier to implement because there are far fewer of them, and under the cause of anti-terrorism some western countries have provided money and know-how round the world. Implementing something to all the thousands of hospitals and clinics nationwide is an all together different feat. It certainly can be done. Is there really a need? Banning the entry of a foreigner who at some point before tested positive for the clap does little if anything to advance public health when the borders are open to everyone else who aren't tested. It's pointless. Where on the earth has this been implemented? Nowhere. The only country that could do so would be North Korea.

[Amavida]

Call me a cynic but I doubt things would ever get so thorough in the Philippines.

I used to believe that but things are changing. Yes, it's still fubar in many ways but look back at your first experience of the Immigration office in Manila & compare it to today. Back in 2005 I remember standing a throng for two hours outside in the heat, finally getting to a crummy wooden counter behind which were filing cabinets stacked 10 high stretching back a kilometer (so it seemed). Now it all computers, air-conditioning & very short waits.

Yeah It would be great to keep the diseased out but where on earth has this ever been implemented successfully?

AV.

[Amavida]

Preferably with easy access to Manila. A flight+short drive etc. Neither needs to be the best, but would like to do both. Anyone else ever try to make this work? Not looking for a long trip or vacation, just a weekend getaway. I'd rather not take someone with me either.

I guess you're looking at Surigao. Avid surfers can chime in with other places. Everywhere you go in the Phils there are girls floating about game for a root & cash, some places more plentiful than others. If you go to a place frequented by lots of foreigners you are less of a novelty.

AV.

[Hutsori]

Preferably with easy access to Manila. A flight+short drive etc. Neither needs to be the best, but would like to do both. Anyone else ever try to make this work? Not looking for a long trip or vacation, just a weekend getaway. I'd rather not take someone with me either.

La Union, Zambales and Baler are the closest places to Manila. Not too many p4 p FRs here about those places. Try a dating site.

[Hutsori]

If they register us in a data base, it would be easier for them to bring things together. I was searching several threads yesterday looking for the discussion, if doctors have the duty of notification (but couldn't find it) . Just as an example, if a doctor would find a STD and he would report it, than this information goes into the same data base and you will have trouble next time you enter Philippines. Maybe they don't even let you in anymore. Just a thought.

Call me a cynic but I doubt things would ever get so thorough in the Philippines. If there were a medical data exchange with immigration I fear this would cause many foreigners to forego treatment locally and seek it elsewhere. The end result of this delay would be more infections passed to locals, and I think this isn't a goal of the gov't. I wouldn't be opposed to a gov't barring entry to someone with an STD like HIV.

[Member #4451]

Preferably with easy access to Manila. A flight+short drive etc. Neither needs to be the best, but would like to do both. Anyone else ever try to make this work? Not looking for a long trip or vacation, just a weekend getaway. I'd rather not take someone with me either.