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08-24-14 23:46 #8162
Posts: 4050If we conflate job placement and educational quality, then the former might be a definitive criterion. Of course, we would also want to consider the quality of the jobs obtained, and that consideration might skew the results negatively, since, cat least in my view, spending four years, for example, obtaining an HRM degree and subsequently securing a job as a waitress might cause one to question the value of a degree.
I would argue however that ascribing too much value to "placement" carries with it the strong implication that a primary function of a university is vocational, whereas I still retain the (perhaps overly idealistic) belief that intellectual development remains a university's primary function, and in that regard most tertiary institutions here fail miserably. The reasons for this are well known to many of us who have worked with schools here: inadequate physical plants, poorly trained faculty, lockstep curricula, inconsistent language (s) of instruction, minimal exposure to art, music, literature, and discouragement of intellectual curiosity.
Granted that virtually all surveys are based on core values or criteria with which reasonable people may disagree. I would argue however, that this survey's assessment of universities here is accurate.
GE.
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08-24-14 22:09 #8161
Posts: 1562Originally Posted by RedKilt [View Original Post]
As RK points out, outcomes--actual placement rates--are far better indicators than prestige ratings or schools' strategic abilities to market themselves.
BTW, UP, at 63rd, actually ranked highest among the Philippine schools. Despite paying their faculty less competitive salaries, they are simply most selective in their admission of students. Brightest students coming in are pretty much the brightest students going out. Unfortunately, this tends to perpetuate class relations in the Phils, since the quality of high school preparation is heavily skewed toward private schools. A kid from a poor provincial public school who gets admitted to UP has gotten there on the basis of hard work and truly fast-firing synapses. I've been told that there was a previous policy to automatically extend acceptance to the top three finishers in every high school in the country. But that is no longer so--for reasons both good and bad.
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08-24-14 04:09 #8160
Posts: 3230Originally Posted by WickedRoger [View Original Post]
QS ranking is not a worthwhile means to assess whether your support for any filipina is well-placed unless you are generous enough to be subsidising a place in the private schools mentioned by WR.
Most of the regional universities are not even ranked once you get to place 300 or so in the Asian rankings. They are all just lumped together as "more than 300".
A much better measure is to look at the employment outcomes for a University or College; how many graduates actually pass the Licensure exams for entry to the various professions, such as Education, Law, Nursing, Engineering, Surveying. How many actually get jobs in the profession in which they trained.
This date is available from the Commission for Higher Education (CHED) or the Professional Regulations Commission (PRC) websites. Philippines Business for Education (PBEd) also has a useful set of data on its website. Note that it doesn't include those with, for example, teaching degrees who are working in call centers.
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08-24-14 02:33 #8159
Posts: 6781Top universities
There has been debate on the effectiveness of any Philippine university and its abilities to compete on the wider stage (ie Asia not the world!
The latest QS survey seems to suggest that the previous conclusions on the low standards etc are true if this survey is to be given credence. Those who understand the education sector in the country will know more and may offer more informed comment.
The links below are self explanatory In the Asia's top 300 so few Philippines institutions (Ateneo Manila, De la Salle and Ateneo Davao only in the top 300 and then around 150 and well below) but look at the score on the box and see it is below 50 so really IMHO this shows that universities here are failing their students.
Juts a thought for those who sponsor a cutie to get a degree. Which is very important for many who get it and their families but in the wider competitive world?
http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...-rankings/2014#sorting=rank+region=+country=+faculty=+stars=false+search=.
http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...-rankings/2014#sorting=rank+region=+country=+faculty=+stars=false+search=.
Now am sure the methodology of assessing each university will be questioned and I am no expert but this is just for information for those who are interested.
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08-23-14 14:34 #8158
Posts: 1459Originally Posted by Nightrider1 [View Original Post]
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08-23-14 10:20 #8157
Posts: 115Originally Posted by WanderLuster [View Original Post]
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08-23-14 08:07 #8156
Posts: 6781Sxxxx please note
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08-23-14 06:08 #8155
Posts: 230Koreans
Originally Posted by Laydher [View Original Post]
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08-23-14 03:25 #8154
Posts: 3230Living in SE Asia
I posted this in the "Living in the Philippines" thread but I will re-post it here so that more guys who are interested and / or contemplating a change will be more likely to see it.
This link is to The Age newspaper (in Australia).
http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/carry-on-abroad-20140818-3dv6x.html
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08-23-14 01:48 #8153
Posts: 150USA customs
Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
Anybody do that? DHL or FEDEX?
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08-22-14 14:57 #8152
Posts: 3050Originally Posted by Kman1 [View Original Post]
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08-22-14 07:44 #8151
Posts: 983Originally Posted by TallyWacker [View Original Post]
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08-22-14 05:25 #8150
Posts: 691Originally Posted by Kman1 [View Original Post]
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08-22-14 05:07 #8149
Posts: 51No problem
Originally Posted by Kman1 [View Original Post]
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08-22-14 03:55 #8148
Posts: 507Customs
Returning back to the us from phi any issues at customs for single male traveler. Do they get nosy?