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[Wicked Roger]

This is what comes when you are able to sit and read lots of things (not surf the net though) in coffee shops.

Has been previous discussion and FRs on the state of the economy, how much it grows (or not) and what this means and a few have voiced a more skeptical viewpoint which this editorial seems to agree with. A good read for those who like business and maybe those who live here would understand the undercurrent etc

Politics is dirty all over the world though and decisions are made for what 'joe public' think are odd reasons.

http://businessmirror.com.ph/index.p...y-of-contracts

[Econo Tech]

All this is true Chea but I am talking about "what is" at the moment.

I have lived here for 16 years now and seen so many of these "proposals" come to nought. I hope all of the plans and proposals actually come true as the article says, but as many of us know, there is always a malfunction between the grandiose plans here and what happens.

If all came to fruition, well, those so many training centers who 'retrain' nurses as HRM grads (for now.) and those who suck every drop of blood of the OFWs and all and sundry will loose out a lot. And a lot. Billions of peso is at stake.

Somebody will find a missing comma or full stop or pagination and hold the implementation, unless the president issues an EO, which, coincidentally, will not do so, lest his next election coffers dry up.

I was told by a reliable person that, must from one foreign employment agency, they pay upwards of 10 million peso to senators et al. Per year, for 'facilitating' operations. Now, if they can pay 100 mil peso, per agency, how much is the agency going to loose, if they see their source dry up?

[Wicked Roger]

All this is true Chea but I am talking about "what is" at the moment.

I have lived here for 16 years now and seen so many of these "proposals" come to nought. I hope all of the plans and proposals actually come true as the article says, but as many of us know, there is always a malfunction between the grandiose plans here and what happens.

As I said. I hope you are right but it is NOT what is happening at present. At the moment they are " not considered regular employees but 'pre-service trainees' who were given allowances and not salaries" and it is through Local Government agencies.

I tend to agree with RK. Look at other governments around the world, lots of promises and positive spin but in the end nothing. And no one to hold them accountable. Is just for the current day media to say some nice things but in reality there is no budget. This happens where I live with government contracts. So many say great things and wonderful promises but ask (directly)"is there a budget for all this" and you get a sheepish reply.

GE has noted before the issue of lots of nurses and no work and I know some who complain bitterly about the lack of opportunity in their own country so they re forced to work abroad some as DH which is a terrible job in some parts of the world or caregiver. Some are airline crew!

Look at Palestine. All the promises made a few years ago all the hype and smiling politicians and where is it now. In the same mire it has been for decades.

So while I hope the reports are correct I am not holding my breath.

[Red Kilt]

This news article corrects RK's mistaken impressions.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/458697/...govt-employees

"THE DEPARTMENT of Health (DOH) plans to hire As regular employees the thousands of unemployed nurses it sends to the countryside annually, Health Secretary Enrique Ona said Sunday.

Ona said the government would also double the salaries of the nurses deployed under the RN Heals (Registered Nurses for Health Enhancement and Local Service Project) program once they become regular government employees.

'That is what we are proposing—that by next year we will regularize them.

All this is true Chea but I am talking about "what is" at the moment.

I have lived here for 16 years now and seen so many of these "proposals" come to nought. I hope all of the plans and proposals actually come true as the article says, but as many of us know, there is always a malfunction between the grandiose plans here and what happens.

As I said. I hope you are right but it is NOT what is happening at present. At the moment they are " not considered regular employees but 'pre-service trainees' who were given allowances and not salaries" and it is through Local Government agencies.

[Cbea20]

This news article corrects RK's mistaken impressions.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/458697/...govt-employees

"THE DEPARTMENT of Health (DOH) plans to hire as regular employees the thousands of unemployed nurses it sends to the countryside annually, Health Secretary Enrique Ona said Sunday.

Ona said the government would also double the salaries of the nurses deployed under the RN Heals (Registered Nurses for Health Enhancement and Local Service Project) program once they become regular government employees.

'That is what we are proposing—that by next year we will regularize them. They will no longer be known as RN Heals. We will also double their salary to P22, 000, ' Ona said in an interview.

He said that with the billions of pesos PhilHealth will be pumping into the health care system across the country, local government units would also be able to hire their own nurses within the next two years.

The DOH started the RN Heals program in 2011 after it was found that around 200, 000 nurses in the country were unemployed.

The project was aimed at improving the access of the poor to quality health care by creating a pool of registered nurses with enhanced clinical and preventive health management competencies that would also increase the nurses' employability.

The nurses, however, were not considered regular employees but 'pre-service trainees' who were given allowances and not salaries. —Philip C. Tubeza"

Wrong Chea.

The "qualified nurses" in the hinterland that you mention are non-passers of the Licensure exam who are employed by LOCAL GOVERNMENTS as para-medical support and they are paid local wages, sometimes with rice and other "in-kind" payments.

[Red Kilt]

They control many of the rights there, and were fuming when SM built a mall to compete with them a stone throw's away from market market.

I think you need to provide some verification to this unsupported statement.

There was not the opposition to it that you suggest. Rather, it was seen as bringing many more shoppers into the vicinity, which can only be positive for both groups. Anyway, the clientele of both malls is very very different (one is "elite and premium" (SM Aura) ; the other (Market Market) is more for the "great Taguig masa".

Have you not wondered why SM Makati is embedded slap-bang in the midst of Ayala Center and linked to Glorietta with pedestrian walkways etc? Hardly likely to happen if they are "fuming" as you put it and "fighting" each other.

The so-called antagonism between the Sys and the Ayalas is just not borne out by the facts. For one thing, they collude on many fronts to ensure that no unionism ever raises its head to give the low-level workers any job security or anything resembling a "decent' salary.

[FreebieFan]

They control many of the rights there, and were fuming when SM built a mall to compete with them a stone throw's away from market market.

Yeah, that shit fight isn't over yet. Ayala is doing a great job making access to the new SM mall as difficult as it can, putting up temporary barriers overnight, suddenly doing "power checks, no power today" etc. Its the same nonsense when trying to access a smart signal in an ayala mall. Those ayalas really know how to press the "lets be childish " button. Then again, they don't care and will never have to care.

[OnePackGuy]

http://business.inquirer.net/135963/...ich-list-in-ph

Whats interesting though is that out of the 10 names. 7 are Chinese Filipinos generally all originated from Fujian province a few generations ago.

Ayala is a Spaniard pretending to be Filipino (they say their pre-dinner prayers in Spanish, if you ever get invited to dinner with them) and there are 2 Filipinos there.

If you figure that every car thats parked in a car park in Manila, for every call in Globe, for every transaction in BPI, for everything spent (10% of all revenues, as rental) in Greenbelt and Glorietta plus New World, Raffles and Fairmont, a portion goes to Ayala, it shows just how rich those above the Ayalas are.

They control many of the rights there, and were fuming when SM built a mall to compete with them a stone throw's away from market market.

[Wicked Roger]

As GE and others noted, airlines here are not great at working out the number of people that can comfortably squeeze into a bus when the airbridge is not working.

This from Philstar today suggests we may need to get used to it. Something I would prefer not to think about in my wildest dreams having had the same experience as other posters recently.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...idge-operators

[Wicked Roger]

Is the author now going to be thrown out of the country too?

Normally they shoot journalists in the Philippines not do the nice thing and exile them. See the links below. Last 2 days 3 journalists have been murdered.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/focus/05/...ts-journalists

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-i...061507982.html

Only Iraq and Somalia are more dangerous places to live if you are a journalist.

[WestCoast1]

Some of the 'excuses' I have heard but not in response the specific question posed by the author. But it made me chuckle and shows how some in the country think.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/8-ways-fili...104559330.html

6. 'Think of me as Robin Hood. '

Haha. In "One-more time?" category.

I used to date this gal in a tiny mindanao province. Talk about a perfect setup. I'd fly into the seacoast province, and she'd bus in from her (much smaller) province. Tiny. 24, cute as a button. Always happy. Coming to the small seaside town was coming to the 'big city' for her. A perfect sex-toy, her tiny body was incredibly limber; her fav thing was in mish to pull her knees back to the mattress and throw her knees over my shoulders and hold on for the ride, drool often coming out of her mouth while her tiny twat soaked the bed. Whew, giving me a stiffy just thinking of her! Extremely easy to please just by taking her to Joliebee."My second time ice cream till now!" Lordy I miss her.

Back to #6 above. Some politicians being corrupt, taking from the rich to give to the poor was not what they were doing. They take from the poor, keep part for themselves, and give some back (not much). In one of our online chats she mentioned a barangay scandal, where some barnagay official got caught with his hands in the jar, but kept his job. She sent an online link so I could read the story. She thought he should be canned. Later when we were having lunch at a restaurant we were talking about the same guy and corruption again. A few months later her father passed away. The usual request for some pesos for burial (a casket can be quite expensive). Thru the family's various sources (including me) , the family could not pay for the entire funeral. The next day in chat she was pleased to tell me that the barangay was providing the casket at no cost. What? Really? Who got them to do that? It seems the office of the corrupt barangay guy she mentioned before was ponying up the money for both the casket, the transfer to the cemetary, and the burial. Suddenly the corrupt guy was her hero. She couldn't talk more positively about him or his office. Amazing.

[Slippery]

Maybe those that live in the Philippines can say if this is tongue in cheek reporting (to a certain degree) or realistic.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/8-laws-phil...100035747.html

Is the author now going to be thrown out of the country too?

[Wicked Roger]

Maybe those that live in the Philippines can say if this is tongue in cheek reporting (to a certain degree) or realistic.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/8-laws-phil...100035747.html

[Wicked Roger]

Some of the 'excuses' I have heard but not in response the specific question posed by the author. But it made me chuckle and shows how some in the country think.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/8-ways-fili...104559330.html

[Member #4387]

Congrats! You're well on your way to catch and perhaps even surpass Henry Sy's fortune. Anyway, the drinks are on you tonight.

Haha I have not gotten any info where I can collect the money yet. But I am in no hurry as I have invested some millions norwegians kroner in some nigeria letters I still wait to florish. LOL
Actually i was so excited when recieving this big 880k php price so my heart rate jumped from 50 per minute to atleast 60. Most due to the fact i had to move for picking up my phone to read the sms..