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[FurryFriend]

i found an improved solution to the facebook problem.

create a blank facebook, fill in the personal info section with some crap, and sign up for one of these social games like cityville or farmtown. you can quickly add 100 friends who are playing the game. upload some photos of yourself and your hometown / home country. your game "friends" will be posting stuff on your wall, mostly game related. the result is a fairly realistic facebook account that can easily pass as your real facebook account. it has your photos there, a big list of friends with western-sounding names, and a frequently updated wall.

set your facebook privacy settings so your photo albums can only be viewed by added friends to safeguard them from family / colleagues who might accidentally stumble onto your monger facebook account.

now you can use this fb account to add your pinay prospects with no worries or concerns.

if she views it, she'll probably know something is wrong. pinays surf facebook furiously and i'm sure she can tell if something's fishy.

those random cityville friends probably won't respond to any of your personal posts. so if you post a status ("getting ready for my big trip to the phils!") , nobody will respond or "like" your status. the same for your photos. all you'd get are game-related posts. this is a dead giveaway that it's either a fake facebook or you truly have no friends.

i have a friend on my facebook with 4, 000 friends. it's flooded with game-related posts. but every time he posts something personal, he only gets 1-2 replies. that spells "loser".

if you do it just to peek at a girl's facebook, fine. but if you use it to communicate and to pretend that it's real, your fake facebook with little/no participation from others will make you look pretty loserish.

however, why don't all of us create fake facebooks and we all agree to participate on each other's pages (in addition to have 100s of random cityville "friends")? that would truly solve the fb "problem".

[Fast Buck Artist]

I found an improved solution to the Facebook problem.

Create a blank facebook, fill in the personal info section with some crap, and sign up for one of these social games like Cityville or Farmtown. You can quickly add 100 friends who are playing the game. Upload some photos of yourself and your hometown / home country. Your game "friends" will be posting stuff on your wall, mostly game related. The result is a fairly realistic facebook account that can easily pass as your real facebook account. It has your photos there, a big list of friends with western-sounding names, and a frequently updated wall.

Set your facebook privacy settings so your photo albums can only be viewed by added friends to safeguard them from family/colleagues who might accidentally stumble onto your monger facebook account.

Now you can use this fb account to add your pinay prospects with no worries or concerns.

Well Friendster has now morphed into something totally different and is now only for "gamers". I thought thats what we were LOL.

Re FB, I think I have found the solution. The best way to see girls pics is obviously through FB.

But the hassle and "who are your friends and why are all they female Filipina / Thai / Indonesian girls" are troublesome questions.

So I have a fb site that has nothing on it. Has a made up name, no details, no friends, but it allows me to add the girls who invite me to see their pics, assess whether they are my type then delete them.

This works great for me. Lets see if Google+ is more monger friendly.

[FreebieFan]

Good points, Skip;

So I stopped using Friendster and Face Book and anything else that reeks of invasion to my privacy. When asked to join someone else's FB I simply reply that I have kids and don't want them exposed to a whole world of creeps. A whole lot less drama these days as a result.

Cheers;

Raz

Well Friendster has now morphed into something totally different and is now only for "gamers". I thought thats what we were LOL.

Re FB, I think I have found the solution. The best way to see girls pics is obviously through FB.

But the hassle and "who are your friends and why are all they female Filipina / Thai / Indonesian girls" are troublesome questions.

So I have a fb site that has nothing on it. Has a made up name, no details, no friends, but it allows me to add the girls who invite me to see their pics, assess whether they are my type then delete them.

This works great for me. Lets see if Google+ is more monger friendly.

[MadisonGuy]

Ok I have read about posts on having a hard time of getting girls out. I had a couple girls from Fields in AC that really stayed longer than I would have liked but when I left they left. I recently decided to cut ties with a girl that wasn't a working girl and oh my god was it so damn hard to get her to leave. She was with me for all of 2 or 3 days and we talked online for about 1-2 weeks. But yet somehow she's head over heals in love with me and I have to argue with her to get her to leave and then she's crying when I walk her out of the hotel and it was just not a very desirable experience. Another reason I like my latinas, they will storm out in a fit of rage when I say things aren't working out and I'd like them to leave. I suppose at 18 there is some childish behavior to be expected but that was not very fun for me. She never wanted a dime either, so guys they do exist regardless of what the forum tends to believe. This girl never let me pay for her taxi, when I went to the spa she wanted to sit and wait I had to force her to do it, and I tried to give her 2k to get her on her way quicker but she wasn't having that either. I think it's hard to find a middle road, either they want to prove that they don't want money or they want to bleed you dry.

[FreebieFan]

You have been on moderated status for quite some time now. One has to wonder why Jackson would do that to a fine, upstanding senior member such as yourself! :confused:

I agree with you. But then its fairly obvious that I would. Welcome to the new "agreeable" me. LOL.

[Buko Max]

Then they wander off into other areas never to be seen again. I'm in the "ISG says he's argumentative" sin bin for the next 6 months so am choosing my words with care. LOL.

You have been on moderated status for quite some time now. One has to wonder why Jackson would do that to a fine, upstanding senior member such as yourself! :confused:

[Red Kilt]

I'm in the "ISG says he's argumentative" sin bin for the next 6 months so am choosing my words with care. LOL.

I cannot imagine why FF.

I never picked you as an "argumentative type" but I guess we all make mistakes.

Check out the classic Monty Python link if you really want to learn how to "argue"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77907195969915

[RasSpewtin]

My point is that ISG probably still thrives because of our need to keep our socially-disapproved activities out of the public eyes of Facebook and Twitter participants.

Good points, Skip;

I learned some valuable lessons years ago when I first started frequenting the Philippines. Back then all of the Filipinas were on that gossip site known as Friendster. It quickly became evident that unless you plan to have one gf and only one for the next many years, then these sites were not such a wise thing to belong to. The routine was always the same. Meet a gal in person on on a dating site and the first thing that she did was to try to add you to her friendster. Once that link was established, then she dug her claws into you and asked endless questions about every other female on your page. Nothing but a machine that feeds the jealous nature of women and Filipinas in particular.

So I stopped using Friendster and Face Book and anything else that reeks of invasion to my privacy. When asked to join someone else's FB I simply reply that I have kids and don't want them exposed to a whole world of creeps. A whole lot less drama these days as a result.

Cheers;
Raz

[Soapy Smith]

Interesting Opinion piece in todays NY Times on the decline of online message boards. ISG must be going against the trend since the board seems very active to me, but I don't have any numbers to back it up. Then again, maybe it is the same old group who keep posting on the Philippines board at least, with a fresh member popping in every now and again

Without having read the NYT piece I would suppose that social network sites are replacing much of the communication that previously occurred on message boards. But social network sites have their liabilities, especially that all of a person's friends see the content, so a person's whole life can be on display. Lots of people get themselves in trouble when a prospective employer, current employer, or political enemies find their public trash. The nature of ISG's content is such that most sensible men would never dream of putting this stuff on Facebook or Twitter. But there are some exceptions. One WG once showed me her facebook page, and on it she had three guys as "friends" whose facebook pages made it clear they'd been mongering in the Phils. I pointed out to her that, even though there were no compromising pictures of her on their pages, her being a Filipina "friend" to men whose facebook pages made it clear they'd been mongering in the Phils wasn't going to look good to any of her other friends who weren't aware of her professional pursuits. She got the point and deleted her links to them. Two of the guys were American, one was a Brit.

My point is that ISG probably still thrives because of our need to keep our socially-disapproved activities out of the public eyes of Facebook and Twitter participants.

[Fast Eddie 48]

This is all AC stuff.

Not necessarily. In some bars (not all) , if the girl agrees to particulars prior to departing the bar, the bar may honor your complaint. Solutions may include: partial refund, having the girl return to you, or offering a different girl. For instance, if the girl agreed to stay until, say. 9am the next morning, then ran away in the night without good reason, they may have her finish the time with you, or offer you a different girl. They will pull everything in the world to avoid a partial refund.

All the more reason to spell out your list of needs to the girl before agreeing to barfine.

Every girl, waitress, and mamasan has told me the girl gets exactly half. This includes the ST bars on Santos, the girl gets 350 of your 700. I was wrong about all of them cutting their ST timeframe to 2 hours, as two of them are at 3 hours. This is still a reduction from the prior 4 hours.

After a 3-some ST with two Santos girls we had an hour to kill so I took them to Crystal Palace for a drink. While there, they shared with me that they had both been in the bar for a whopping 2 weeks, and that one of them had an american customer in her first week who:

* was tremedously fat.

* barfined her 4 nights in a row.

* on one of those nights he barfined 3 other girls, just to have 4 girls in tow.

* never had sex with any of the girls, including her.

* gave every girl a p5000 tip each night, and turned them loose early.

* took the girls out partying, and only went to the room to snap a few pics and drink more. Never sex.

The girls were cracking up telling me this. The other girl said about the highly-tipped girl: What she got that I don't?

To Westcoast,

I been going to AC for over 12 yr and I have about 4 runner most all in the last 2 yr and I have never got a refund not a single peso from the bar yet, only once I got another girl after I go back to the bar and complain, now most Mamasan tell me no refund after I recieve service from the girl even I ask them girl must stay all night,

Fast Eddie 48

[FreebieFan]

Interesting Opinion piece in todays NY Times on the decline of online message boards.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...inion&emc=tya1

ISG must be going against the trend since the board seems very active to me, but I don't have any numbers to back it up.

Then again, maybe it is the same old group who keep posting on the Philippines board at least, with a fresh member popping in every now and again

You are right Sir. Lots of us longer term members around (we all know who we are) with a few enthusiastic noisy newbies now and again always telling us how wrong we are, how they did it better, how much younger their girls were, how we basically don't know so much etc.

Then they wander off into other areas never to be seen again. I'm in the "ISG says he's argumentative" sin bin for the next 6 months so am choosing my words with care. LOL.

[WestCoast1]

Once she had sex with you one time bar will not honor your complaints.

This is all AC stuff.

Not necessarily. In some bars (not all) , if the girl agrees to particulars prior to departing the bar, the bar may honor your complaint. Solutions may include: partial refund, having the girl return to you, or offering a different girl. For instance, if the girl agreed to stay until, say. 9am the next morning, then ran away in the night without good reason, they may have her finish the time with you, or offer you a different girl. They will pull everything in the world to avoid a partial refund.

These girls can be picky sometimes but they never disclose this at the time of barfine.

All the more reason to spell out your list of needs to the girl before agreeing to barfine.

3. If the barfine is 1500 pesos, the girl gets 600 pesos.

Every girl, waitress, and mamasan has told me the girl gets exactly half. This includes the ST bars on Santos, the girl gets 350 of your 700. I was wrong about all of them cutting their ST timeframe to 2 hours, as two of them are at 3 hours. This is still a reduction from the prior 4 hours.

Some with money to burn have paid upwards of 3000 pesos tip, girls tell me. Hard to know if they are lying.

After a 3-some ST with two Santos girls we had an hour to kill so I took them to Crystal Palace for a drink. While there, they shared with me that they had both been in the bar for a whopping 2 weeks, and that one of them had an american customer in her first week who:

* was tremedously fat.

* barfined her 4 nights in a row.

* on one of those nights he barfined 3 other girls, just to have 4 girls in tow.

* never had sex with any of the girls, including her.

* gave every girl a p5000 tip each night, and turned them loose early.

* took the girls out partying, and only went to the room to snap a few pics and drink more. Never sex.

The girls were cracking up telling me this. The other girl said about the highly-tipped girl: What she got that I don't?

[Sammon]

Madison: I can only tell you how things work in Angeles City (A. C.) as that is the extent of my hobbying experience in The Philippines. The barfine is supposed to cover an overnight stay (LT) which could range from 1000 PHP (piso) to 3000 PHP. No extras are implied. You may tip for exceptional service. Most of my barfines want to leave after a couple of hours so I let them and don't give them any additional money. They are fine with that arrangement. The girls only get a portion of the barfine you paid to the bar. This amount is roughly half of the barfine. So if you are ever offered a 'direct' date without involving the bar, offering slightly over 50% of the barfine would not be out of bounds.

1. Barfine is to take the girl out of the bar. Although sex is expected but not guaranteed. Although if the girl does not perform atleast one time you can take the girl back to the bar as many mongers have done and got the money back. In some cases they have substituted another girl of your preference.

Not all mo0ngers go this route. Sometimes they will just loose the money and chalk it up to experience. Partly because they feel sorry for these girls.

There are several reasomns girls will refuse which include she is on the rag, just does not like you drunk, body odor, smelly breath, size of penis etc.

These girls can be picky sometimes but they never disclose this at the time of barfine. Some will say only for barhopping. Avoid them.

2. Experience varies from girl to girl if they stay LT or run after one shot. Some girls are hard to get rid of. They will stay till next evening. Some hope you will barfine again.

If the girl decides to run, there is nothing you can do but let her go.

Once she had sex with you one time bar will not honor your complaints.

3. If the barfine is 1500 pesos, the girl gets 600 pesos. Do not know how much they get if 3000 peso barfine. Personally never barfined 3000 peso girls.

4. Tip is not expected but in general 200-500 pesos depending on service and attitude is considered normal.

Some with money to burn have paid upwards of 3000 pesos tip, girls tell me. Hard to know if they are lying.

5. Sometimes it is possible to get the girl come over after her shift. If the girl is staying with other girls in the dorm they will not do it. However if they live by themselves maybe.

There are snitches in their group and backbiting and jealousy are common.

[Red Kilt]

Interesting Opinion piece in todays NY Times on the decline of online message boards.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...inion&emc=tya1

ISG must be going against the trend since the board seems very active to me, but I don't have any numbers to back it up.

Then again, maybe it is the same old group who keep posting on the Philippines board at least, with a fresh member popping in every now and again

[Buko Max]

They have blocked the site from PI with "Why am I seeing this page?

If you pay someone a fee for pics or vids, I believe that is an implied contract.

How about posting the website again less the www and com.

Thanks