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[Nvslim]

They also provided me, in every case, an excellent GFE (even reluctant virgin did that in spades, despite not coming across with the deed itself)!

I look forward to November!

Dragon Slayer will be proud. His student has paid attention and learned well.

Great report and the pics were fabulous. Sweet looking body and many positions.

Please keep us updated on your next trip.

Slim

[Bonker04]

Wow…these last few reports are making depressing reading!
Let’s lighten things up a little before I think about jumping off a bridge somewhere!

I am posting the following on this thread as it is mainly about my very recent experience of using DIA and Cherry Blossoms, although I admit that one or two sections are in reference to areas not associated with these two sites and associated experiences! So please bear with me if you think they should be posted elsewhere!
It is a pretty rambling post and doesn’t really lend itself to being dissected it into it’s component parts and posted in other possibly more relevant sections.

Firstly I would like to say a big thank you to Dragon Slayer for kindly responding to my PM with some very helpful advice and tips, as I am a newby to Phils! (having spent most of my time in the Caribbean, mainly Cuba, and also Thailand).
I was going to post this in Dragon Slayers Forum but there doesn’t seem to be any appropriate threads on that forum!

I had initially visited in Manila in March of this year but had to curtail my visit due to unexpected work commitments!

However on that occasion I did visit LA Café and Jools in Burgos and Binibini on Roxas Blvd., Baclaran. LA Café had obviously become something of an institution, and was pretty much exactly as I expected judging by the many previous reports on this forum. An interesting place! But I had just discovered Jools and decided to return there as I was impressed with the quality and friendliness of the girls, and the very professional dance show! I found by far that Jools was the better experience in terms of friendliness of the girls and entertainment, and was about 20% cheaper in all respects to Binibini. Although there were a lot of nice girls (8’s and 9’s) in Binibini, the ones in Jools seemed far more naturally friendly.

Some notes I made on costs at Binibini are as follows

a) Short time rooms 3000, 3500 and 4000 for ‘models’ (not sure how they were rated as I didn’t check it out further!)
b) 8000 take out
c) 600 entry, 150 drinks, 200 lady drinks (Beware 700 lady drink if performer sits on your lap!)

I returned to Manila end of August and had previously made some connections on DIA, and Cherry Blossoms so decided that I would put those arrangements to the test!

Slightly off topic, heard that LA Café had been closed down so swung by there the first night the check it out. It was open for business, and looks exactly the same but all LA Café signage had been removed and plastic sheeting with its new name ‘Manila Bay Café’ had been strung up in their place.

As I was with a girl I had met through CB I resisted the temptation to go and check it out more thoroughly but I stuck my heads through the door and although quieter than I remember it seemed the same place. But it was early…4-30 on Friday afternoon!
I spoke to the doorman who said that it WAS the same as LA Café, it was a sister company, (whatever that means), and had recently reopened for business!


Getting back on topic, like many others here my experience on DIA was very mixed, with a lot of professional ‘scammers’ trying to extract money very early on by pleading family illness, needing help with school fees and a variety of other reasons. Without exception these were deleted immediately. One thing that became clear very early on was that one can waste an awful lot of time sorting through likely candidates. Some sort of system for vetting them (and keeping track of who you are chatting to) is a must if you don’t want to be bogged down in trivial conversations which, in all probability will lead nowhere! In that respect CB seemed to have a better proportion of genuine girls. I don’t recall a single one that was obviously out for money! Maybe I was just lucky!

Apart from my very short visit in March I know nothing of Phils so took the opportunity to do a bit of travelling whilst there, so after Manila, I had a couple of days in Cagayan de Oro and then another four days in Cebu. With just one exception all the girls wanted to meet me at the airport, and drop me back there again. That could have been a problem if indeed I wasn’t actually travelling, so will have to give some thought to that for my next visit in November! Most also wanted to meet you initially with at least one other family member, and in the case of the girl from Cagayan turned up with a whole bus load of family – at least ten! I kid you not…..that was totally unexpected! Talk about stress!

I had a ‘shortlist’ of about 10 girls who I chatted with on cam (which to my mind is essential!) and arranged to meet 5 over 10 days in Phils. Following DS’s lead, I deliberately did not allocate too long to each to avoid wasting precious time so figured a couple of nights each would be a good start, allowing sufficient time to get them to open up with the desired GFE , but not too long in case of a bad choice! Also, and I must admit to being a little careless here, it is good to have a plan ‘B’ and even a plan ‘C’ should your first selection not meet expectations, or even fail to show up completely!. Of the 5, all turned up, the first 3 turned out to be real little gems, 4th (18 yr old spinner) admitting after meeting that she was a virgin and wanted to remain so until married. (wasn’t expecting that curved ball at all as she had previously said she had a pinoy b/f in the past and was happy to stay with me in the hotel!) The last was a really sexy looking 23 yr old who was very shy at first, and wouldn’t go all the way the first night so I said that I would send her home (explaining that was my way of dealing with HER rules!) and that we might meet the next day. That had the desired effect and she soon opened up! Literally and figuratively! Once she had a little sparkling wine inside her, she really opened up, and became quite uninhibited!

The first girl I met, in Manila was indeed a virgin, she was 24 and 38kg! Now as far as I am aware, I have never had the privilege of deflowering a virgin before, and was very excited at the prospect. Suffice to say she was a real pleasure and so very sweet. But like so many things in life, did not turn out exactly as I had in mind! My fault entirely, not hers! I had in the back of my mind an exceptionally funny report elsewhere in this forum of a member fucking a menstruating pinay and ended up with blood soaked sheets! You may well remember the report in question!
Indeed, hilarious descriptions of beheaded chickens and gallons of spilt blood rather made me focus on taking suitable precautions to prevent something similar from happening to me! In addition, on the flight over to Manila I was watching one of the funniest episodes of ‘Family Guy’, which to my mind is one of the best programmes on TV. In it ‘Family Guy’ himself was fantasizing over getting married to an extremely attractive neighbour, and when the minister says ‘you may now kiss the bride’ he retorts, ‘kiss her, I’m going to DESTROY HER!’

Well of course, there she is, sitting astride me, gently rocking backwards and forwards, my cock sliding ever so slowly deeper into her, and then her hymen gives a last little tug and then breaks…….and Family Guy, a destroyed virgin and dozens of headless chickens flood into my mind ……and I collapse into fits of uncontrollable laughter! Poor girl…she will probably be scarred for life….! But she took it all in good part…..of course I could NEVER tell her the real reason I was giggling so much…! Even though it was obviously not how either of us intended, she was really game and lost her virginity orally, vaginally and anally all in 24 hours! And even was happy for me to take the odd photo! I will surely see her again!

The second girl was from a province about 3 hours north of Manila, and we had arranged to meet in Glorietta mall!. A very friendly girl, in her late 20’s and totally uninhibited. Loved posing for pics! She had in fact been quite keen to show me the goods on cam on a number of occasions. Never asked for money, and she had a really good fun attitude!

Then I headed off to Cagayan de Oro and was met by a 21 year old who had a very nicely rounded figure! (and a bus load of family!) Again not shy, and at no time was money ever mentioned. I like that sort of attitude, and if anything, I am usually a bit on the generous side in that case!
I understand the situation in Phils, and am certainly not averse to helping out, one way or the other.

Then I headed off to Cebu where I encountered the ‘reluctant virgin’! Talking of virgins – isn’t it strange, they seem to have become like London buses, you wait ages for one, and then two come along together! But it seemed that my tack of sending a girl home if she starts to implement some rules was beginning to pay off. I don’t do it with any anger, but just explain to her that if those were her rules, then this was the correct way of dealing with those rules. (more importantly it frees up time to go and play elsewhere!) So I sent her home in a taxi, and her parents sent her back the following morning, but she was still not prepared to ‘sacrifice’ herself! But she was as cute as hell and I have to admit I accepted defeat graciously! But I did have one stroke of luck, the first evening of our meet we were wandering around Ayala Mall in Cebu doing some window shopping (between her pulling the virginity till marriage thing, and her going home for the night) and popped into a clothes shop. She was trying on a top in the changing room and the sales assistant who, to my eye was a real stunner, started flirting with me, asking outright if the girl I was with was my g/f? I think she could sense a lack of affection between us so I just said she was the daughter of a friend of mine and was possibly buying her a birthday present. (I had in fact no such intention, but wanted an excuse to check out the mall as it seemed from reports to be a good hunting ground!) And indeed it was! (I am certainly no George Clooney – not least because of an extra 10 years and 30 pounds or so!) but was getting a lot of smiles from women as we wandered around)! Anyway, I got her number, sent virgin home in a cab and met the sales girl after she finished work at 9-30pm and we went out for a bite to eat, and arranged to meet the following evening after she finished work again. The next day virgin reappeared at the hotel with mother and aunt in tow, and invited me back home after lunch to meet the family and have a sort of bbq! I was in two minds as to whether I should, but agreed to go just for a couple hours or so! My evening was already planned with the salesgirl but nothing in my diary for the afternoon! I was sure glad I did! The whole family were really nice, I had a complete ball with them, and more importantly I was introduced to half a dozen extremely attractive cousins who I think will not have the same mindset as virgin! I was taken aside by the aunt who asked me why I had sent virgin home and was I not happy with her? I replied (quite truthfully) that as she wished to remain a virgin till she was married, and I would NEVER marry a girl I hadn’t had a complete relationship with, (ie a polite way of saying – ‘fucked stupid!’) then there was no possibility of a future for us! (I of course left out the bit that I was not really in the market for settling down again, not for quite a while any rate!) She understood and pointed out a couple of the cousins and said they would not have that problem and maybe one of them might suit me instead! Wow! I wasn’t expecting that either! So when I return in November I have at least one firm date……!

Anyway….I digress…! After a very pleasant afternoon I returned to Ayala Mall to meet sales lady again. (21 year old , 40kg, beautiful eyes and ass!) Fortunately she had no such hang-ups, and was very happy to return to my hotel with me! And a second contact eager to meet up in November!

Ironically the next day, while I was with girl number 5, I started getting messages from reluctant virgin telling me she was so sorry, and she did want to see me again, and wanted to give herself to me…..how sweet. I think her aunt had had a quiet word in her ear!
But she was so very sweet, and the family so nice, that I don’t think I can take her offer, or her virginity, under false pretences! But then again, I might just have to think about that!

So, what did I think about Phils in general, and the whole DIA, Cherry Blossoms thing in particular? Well, after Cuba, which is where much of my mongering over the last dozen or so years has been, Phils is like a breath of fresh air, totally opposite to the often fraught and disappointing scene, certainly for newbie’s there! (But I still have a thing for Latina’s, they are one of god’s finest creations!)
I think if you have a fair amount of free time in advance to cultivate and sort your connections, it’s an excellent way of maximising your time ‘on-site’, especially if you are not familiar with the geography. In fact, as I did, you get them to show you all the places that would be of interest, so next time, if you operate independently at least you know the lay of the land!

They also provided me, in every case, an excellent GFE (even reluctant virgin did that in spades, despite not coming across with the deed itself)!

I look forward to November!

[Starchild2012]

Lumpia is Chinese food, not Filipino ;)

BTW most of the somewhat edible food in the Philippines is foreign: chicken curry, beef caldereta, sweet and sour pork, etc.

What amazes me is that Filipino actually like their food. They think it's delicious. I could bring a girl to a delicious pizza restaurant and she would complain that she feels she didn't really eat just because she did not have overcooked rice with garly thing with it.

Bringing girls to Jollibee is still a winner - they delight in that thing which they call spaghetti and other dubious tasting burger. I don't know how they manage to mess even such a simple thing as a burger. I can say that apart for the chocolate sundae I like nothing in Jollibee, everything taste terrible even if it looks OK. However, locals delight in it (my favorite fast food being Burger King and Wendy). YMMV. Obviously.

Funny how you put it..very true however..I have a soft corner for Jollibee, simply for standing upto McDonalds :)...and we Indians have never seen quite like it back home..except for mcDonalds but its not localized.....

I have seen many Indians in Jollibee also a call center girl told me in Manila, she never understood why Indians love Jollibee...i don't know why i like chichenenjoy...its same but unique concept PLUS they give RICE which asian love with their Chicken :)

[Lushington]

This whole thread is unappetising to me.

I never eat in food courts anymore. They load up everything with MSG (they call it "vetsin" or "ajimoto" here).

There are many Filipino dishes that are delicious when properly cooked and eaten when fresh.

Dishes like, for example, Chicken Tinola, Pork Nilaga, Chicken and Pork Adobo, Pinakbhet (excellent vegies without the added bagoong), Ginataan (Pumpkin & Green Beans braised in coconut milk) and a few other dishes that my maid and my wife cook beautifully and without sugar and MSG.

Even mentioning Jolibee as a place to eat brings me out in a sweat. It is false advertising to label whatever they serve as "food".

I agree wholeheartedly RK. My fave is BULALO. A delicious soup based dish, if made proprerly with the Knee of the cow. Eaten with rice on the side it is delicious! It is usually a very large seve good for 2!

As for the over-seeetened fast food. I'll leave that alone!

[Red Kilt]

This whole thread is unappetising to me.

I never eat in food courts anymore - they load up everything with MSG (they call it "vetsin" or "ajimoto" here).

There are many filipino dishes that are delicious when properly cooked and eaten when fresh.
Dishes like, for example, Chicken Tinola, Pork Nilaga, Chicken and Pork Adobo, Pinakbhet (excellent vegies without the added bagoong), Ginataan (Pumpkin & Green Beans braised in coconut milk) and a few other dishes that my maid and my wife cook beautifully and without sugar and MSG.
Even mentioning Jolibee as a place to eat brings me out in a sweat. It is false advertising to label whatever they serve as "food".

[Econo Tech]

Lumpia is Chinese food, not Filipino ;)

BTW most of the somewhat edible food in the Philippines is foreign: chicken curry, beef caldereta, sweet and sour pork, etc.

What amazes me is that Filipino actually like their food. They think it's delicious. I could bring a girl to a delicious pizza restaurant and she would complain that she feels she didn't really eat just because she did not have overcooked rice with garly thing with it.

There is another chinese dish that claims filipino ownership !! Chop Suey. Enough filipinos were willing to take arms to defend Chop Suey, even though the name itself is in chinese - nothing gets past their strong defences of "IDENTITY"

I gave up ..

[Denom]

I like the lumpia. Tastes good with pussy and San Miguel ;)

Lumpia is Chinese food, not Filipino ;)

BTW most of the somewhat edible food in the Philippines is foreign: chicken curry, beef caldereta, sweet and sour pork, etc.

What amazes me is that Filipino actually like their food. They think it's delicious. I could bring a girl to a delicious pizza restaurant and she would complain that she feels she didn't really eat just because she did not have overcooked rice with garly thing with it.

Bringing girls to Jollibee is still a winner - they delight in that thing which they call spaghetti and other dubious tasting burger. I don't know how they manage to mess even such a simple thing as a burger. I can say that apart for the chocolate sundae I like nothing in Jollibee, everything taste terrible even if it looks OK. However, locals delight in it (my favorite fast food being Burger King and Wendy). YMMV. Obviously.

[GoodEnough]

Oh, come on now GE! There's also salt don't forget! TeeHee ;)

One of these day's I'm gonna have to catch up with you in manila & take you to one of my favourite better filipino restaurants in QC GE. They have extensive menu's of good quality food's, not as sophisticated as european cuisine but not too shabby.

The shit the average local eats is just subsistence food - burnt pork, over cooked rice & Tilapia (gak!).

AV

And let us not forget overcooked pasta with highly-sugared and otherwise unseasoned tomato sauce.

[Econo Tech]

I have a unlocked international I. Phone,

Can I buy a sim and also get a moderate prices internet plan that has good coverage?

Yep, check www.smart.com.ph - SIM card just costs 30 peso, and you can load with the data settings.

[Econo Tech]

Actually it's #4 -- the NYT story had it wrong. #1 is pork, and of course it's certainly #1 in the Philippines.

I've given up trying to defend Filipino food, but I'll say it once more anyhow: the problem isn't that there's no good Filipino food. The problem is that so much of it is so crappy.

I too agree, it has to be Pork followed by fish ..

And on the filipino cuisine stuff, there is a restaurant in Singapore, called 7107 flavors, fine dining Filipino food (if that makes sense) but the amazing thing is the menu items like Bicol Express and Kare Kare are nowhere what I have tasted in Philippines.

The Chef in Singapore agreed that not many chefs stick to keeping the perfect taste, and most do short cut cooking and kill the taste in the process.

as for the food being crappy, I heard this from a friend.

His maid was nagging him to start a filipino restaurant in Singapore, and he went ballistic. HE was like "all over the world you get chinese, Indian, mexican, itialian and even malay food. Not a lot of cities in the world have Filipino food, and if there was - it is filled only with Filipinos - you know why ? BECAUSE NOBODY DIGS YOUR FOOD" :D :D

He couldn't have said it better.

[Sammon]

Actually it's #4 -- the NYT story had it wrong. #1 is pork, and of course it's certainly #1 in the Philippines.

I've given up trying to defend Filipino food, but I'll say it once more anyhow: the problem isn't that there's no good Filipino food. The problem is that so much of it is so crappy.

Foodwise I will give it Hands down to Thailand. Even the soup from roadside vendors with questionable meat tastes so good.

[Betong]

Goat is the most widely consumed meat in the world.

Actually it's #4 -- the NYT story had it wrong. #1 is pork, and of course it's certainly #1 in the Philippines.

I've given up trying to defend Filipino food, but I'll say it once more anyhow: the problem isn't that there's no good Filipino food. The problem is that so much of it is so crappy.

[Amavida]

I think most of us here acknowledge that the local food is crap; mostly without any taste except that of sugar. In my seven years here, I've never eaten in an "eatery" and if my luck holds, I never will. Having to endure a local meal would be a deal breaker for me.

GE

Oh, come on now GE! There's also salt don't forget! TeeHee ;)

One of these day's I'm gonna have to catch up with you in manila & take you to one of my favourite better filipino restaurants in QC GE. They have extensive menu's of good quality food's, not as sophisticated as european cuisine but not too shabby.

The shit the average local eats is just subsistence food - burnt pork, over cooked rice & Tilapia (gak!).

AV

[Amavida]

Agree AV and like you am sure I have visted what the girls call 'home' and 99.9% we westerner wouild never call it that especially those with outside toilets and no flush

What I am saying here is that the scammers will start the hard luck story so early before they get to know you and even when you say "is sad etc" and maybe after I meet you etc I can help, they bombard you with stories...or worse the story changes...there is are least one I know who has had 10 mobiules stoeln, been roobed at least 7 times, was kidnapped twice by crazy relatives, had dengue twice, various illness 10+ times....let alone her family...problem for her was the story changed each day...

So the real message for you guys who do chat etc is cam with them, be nice dont be rude show respect, never send cash unless you really can afford to lose it, better still see them go see where they live and then decide.

Like some of the other mongers on the board that I know, I help certain girls, some I help with school fees, others with loads (telephone not the other kind ..well not over the internet or in a public place), find jobs (decent ones), assist when family/girl is sick.

But....all of these I trust, I have met, and seen where they live

A good mate of mine JsBach in the UAE is extremely generous and kind but he knows the girl very well. And this girl itemises the expenditure for him so he can see where the cash goes (I know the lady as well and she is wonderful and very sexy). My favourite tells me where the cash goes ...but these are not scammers as both of us have been and seen where they live and you are right AV it is pure poverty

PI is a hot pot of poverty, all over the country but you cant save the world but you can do your bit...but dont be scammed gents.

AV - you are right in that many hard luck stories are truly that and there is abject poverty (I have seen it first hand many times).... but a girl that within 5/10 mins of chat starts on about send me cash is 99% a scammer or at least comes across as one...which was the gist of my FR. That is what spoils it for genuine ones...

Marry them..why not as long as you know them, see them and over a long period of time understand what you are getting into....

Yeah man, good advice for the newcomers.

AV

[Vandaddio]

I have a unlocked international I. Phone,

Can I buy a sim and also get a moderate prices internet plan that has good coverage?