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[DaBoy]

on my last trip a student lady i know from tagged was fairly insistent that we meet but my schedule was very tight. twice she said she was with her mom and waiting to meet me. so to make it easy i told them what my aprtment building was (well i actually told them the name of the condo block next to it) and mum and daughter seemed impressed.

next day i agreed to meet the student if she came with anyone other than mom. she came with a younger sister.

i left the younger sis at mall and me and student girl went for a drive. somewhere in the drive we got to kissing and student girl confirmed she didn't know anything about sex but wanted to learn on my next trip.

i'm visiting manila in a few days and student girl has confirmed she is fine to visit my condo, with no one else present. lets see what happens.

enjoy your reports freebie...however one follow up: you have mentioned that you tell the girls that you are married so that the girls know not to expect a commitment from you, yet the cousins and sisters and moms are still giving you the go ahead to go hang out with and shag the girl? i admire you your honesty but it must tor**** some of your chances, no?

thanks and keep up the excellent observations.

[Gfechaser]

I wasn't aware that there were any bars in Pattaya that weren't a tourist trap where the women treated patrons as nothing more than a wallet. I think the difference is primarily the skill and sophistication that the illusion is maintained.

This is true in some respect. Obviously tourist money is the main motivation. However there was one bar that had some sort of cirque du soliesque type show in which the women there were so blatant about wanting to extract your cash. Needless to say this venue was not the best place to find gfe. After leaving that place me and my wingman ventured to another bar in close proximity and the girls were really nice.

[GregLondon]

I should have been more specific. Your explanation is exactly what I mean when I think of GFE. In Thailand my buddy would frequent certain bars that had women that were more likely to be GFE and he avoided the establishments were the women were more mercenary. As a matter of fact there was one establishment in Pattaya that was clearly a tourist trap, and no matter how much charm or niceties one would expend on the women, most of the women there treated the patrons as nothing more than a wallet.

I wasn't aware that there were any bars in Pattaya that weren't a tourist trap where the women treated patrons as nothing more than a wallet. I think the difference is primarily the skill and sophistication that the illusion is maintained.

[Amjeck]

The difference between Thailand & Phils is that Thais dont necessarily want to leave their country so their interest in you is short term & all business.
The Phils girl will be very keen to marry her way out of the country.
A Pinay will speak somewhat more english than her Thai sister making the illusion of a relationship easier to create.

It's important to add that in general thais don't like foreigners, making gfe an uphill battle. Also, most thais are "taught" before they enter the p4p scene that foreigners are nothing more than a means to an end.

[Gfechaser]

IMHO there are two types of GFE.

First as it applies to the sexual act per se i.e. the girl kisses you deeply & passionately, when you come she keeps you inside & lies snuggled in your arms in the afterglow just as a gf might.

Second meaning of GFE is where the girl will hang out with you going places doing things, holding hands, chatting etc, when the meter runs out she will want to keep the 'relationship' going by txt/email/visits (and ...ahem..money).

The difference between Thailand & Phils is that Thais dont necessarily want to leave their country so their interest in you is short term & all business.
The Phils girl will be very keen to marry her way out of the country.
A Pinay will speak somewhat more english than her Thai sister making the illusion of a relationship easier to create.

You dont need to travel out into the provinces of the Phils & BS naive girls who are looking for a 'husbond'. In fact I detest that. There are _PLENTY_ of amateur & non P4P chicks in the cities who will trade short term sex/intimacy/companionship for gifts/money. Even bar girls (prostitutes) from AC/Manila/Cebu will be happy to become your 'girlfriend' for as long as you wish.

Hopes this helps.
AV

I should have been more specific. Your explanation is exactly what I mean when I think of GFE. In Thailand my buddy would frequent certain bars that had women that were more likely to be GFE and he avoided the establishments were the women were more mercenary. As a matter of fact there was one establishment in Pattaya that was clearly a tourist trap, and no matter how much charm or niceties one would expend on the women, most of the women there treated the patrons as nothing more than a wallet.

[Brymor]

Sorry but this is a dumb question.

The best place for GFE is everywhere you are!. Be sweet charming funny friendly relaxed and make a girl feel comfortable. Filipinas will repsond every time to a guy who respects them and looks like he cares for them, even if you;ve only just met.
If you are arrogant and expect everything whilst giving nothing the girl will give whats expected, ie. pussy but swill not put any extra effort into it.

Put perfectly

[Amavida]

Just found that the European Union has blacklisted all Philippine Air-Carriers from entering EU airspace.
Just FYI.

Cheers!

http://us.asiancorrespondent.com/tonyo-cruz-blog/philippines-airlines-banned-from-eu-airspace-starting-april-1

http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleases...guiLanguage=en

AV

[Amavida]

As the name implies I like the GFE experience. I have looked through this forum and read allot of the reports. It seems like the Philippines is much like Thailand in the sense that there are allot of bars that most people go to, pay bar fines, and take the girl out of the bar. I just wanted to ask the experienced guys, where the best places in the Philippines to find GFE are located. In Thailand my buddy would go to the go go bars, call a girl over, and talk to her for to see if they have chemistry before leaving with her. Is this the best strategy to use to secure GFE? You have the termas in Brazil, you have a couple places in Colombia, and one can also find pretty good GFE's in the DR. I am planning on traveling to the Philippines later this year so any information would be greatly appreciated.

IMHO there are two types of GFE.

First as it applies to the sexual act per se i.e. the girl kisses you deeply & passionately, when you come she keeps you inside & lies snuggled in your arms in the afterglow just as a gf might.

Second meaning of GFE is where the girl will hang out with you going places doing things, holding hands, chatting etc, when the meter runs out she will want to keep the 'relationship' going by txt/email/visits (and ...ahem..money).

The difference between Thailand & Phils is that Thais dont necessarily want to leave their country so their interest in you is short term & all business.
The Phils girl will be very keen to marry her way out of the country.
A Pinay will speak somewhat more english than her Thai sister making the illusion of a relationship easier to create.

You dont need to travel out into the provinces of the Phils & BS naive girls who are looking for a 'husbond'. In fact I detest that. There are _PLENTY_ of amateur & non P4P chicks in the cities who will trade short term sex/intimacy/companionship for gifts/money. Even bar girls (prostitutes) from AC/Manila/Cebu will be happy to become your 'girlfriend' for as long as you wish.

Hopes this helps.
AV

[Ekspat]

Just found that the European Union has blacklisted all Philippine Air-Carriers from entering EU airspace.
Just FYI.

Cheers!

[GregLondon]

As the name implies I like the GFE experience. I have looked through this forum and read allot of the reports. It seems like the Philippines is much like Thailand in the sense that there are allot of bars that most people go to, pay bar fines, and take the girl out of the bar. I just wanted to ask the experienced guys, where the best places in the Philippines to find GFE are located. In Thailand my buddy would go to the go go bars, call a girl over, and talk to her for to see if they have chemistry before leaving with her. Is this the best strategy to use to secure GFE? You have the termas in Brazil, you have a couple places in Colombia, and one can also find pretty good GFE's in the DR. I am planning on traveling to the Philippines later this year so any information would be greatly appreciated.

I think different guys have different interpretations of GFE. In pattaya GFE seems to mean anyone who doesnt run off to get showered and out for the next guy within 30 seconds of you coming.

I think you have a better chance of getting genuine GFE in Phils bars than in Thai bars but its still not the best place to strat if you are in the Phils. As Freeby fan says potential GFE is available almost everywhere in the Phils (though the girls outside Cebu and manila will probably be more conservative and you need to romance them more and perhaps take them out a couple of times. If you want to do some preparatory work DIA and Tagged are the best places to start 9and free) In practice Id say treat these just as lead ins . you are just as likelly to end up with the friend of a girl you met on DIA than the girl you have been chating to for months.

[FreebieFan]

As the name implies I like the GFE experience. I have looked through this forum and read allot of the reports. It seems like the Philippines is much like Thailand in the sense that there are allot of bars that most people go to, pay bar fines, and take the girl out of the bar. I just wanted to ask the experienced guys, where the best places in the Philippines to find GFE are located. In Thailand my buddy would go to the go go bars, call a girl over, and talk to her for to see if they have chemistry before leaving with her. Is this the best strategy to use to secure GFE? You have the termas in Brazil, you have a couple places in Colombia, and one can also find pretty good GFE's in the DR. I am planning on traveling to the Philippines later this year so any information would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry but this is a dumb question.

The best place for GFE is everywhere you are!. Be sweet charming funny friendly relaxed and make a girl feel comfortable. Filipinas will repsond every time to a guy who respects them and looks like he cares for them, even if you;ve only just met.
If you are arrogant and expect everything whilst giving nothing the girl will give whats expected, ie. pussy but swill not put any extra effort into it.

[Gfechaser]

As the name implies I like the GFE experience. I have looked through this forum and read allot of the reports. It seems like the Philippines is much like Thailand in the sense that there are allot of bars that most people go to, pay bar fines, and take the girl out of the bar. I just wanted to ask the experienced guys, where the best places in the Philippines to find GFE are located. In Thailand my buddy would go to the go go bars, call a girl over, and talk to her for to see if they have chemistry before leaving with her. Is this the best strategy to use to secure GFE? You have the termas in Brazil, you have a couple places in Colombia, and one can also find pretty good GFE's in the DR. I am planning on traveling to the Philippines later this year so any information would be greatly appreciated.

[Gangles]

Yes, I agree. I have found a couple of them in the Phils so far. never in Australia. The most I ever got out of a woman in Australia was 5 orgasms. But the filipinas seem to be able to react more spontaneously. fantastic, and very good for my ego.

I have a Nurse friend, who always travels from near Subic to meet me whenever I'm in Manila.

She regularly gets between 30-50 orgasms in the 4 hours that we spend humping and jumping. I tried counting once but was impossible as they tended to come very fast and very close to each other. But she does let loose a " Yeah" every time and that tells me. The stomach contraction also demonstrates when she has orgasm.

Some women are just able to do this.

I'm happy to two or three, but then I'm older than some of the young buckeroos here. And a hell of a lot wiser too LOL.

[Red Kilt]

You will find that "open minded" and "adventurous" are a bit ambiguous, "Liberated" is less ambiguous ie open for short term sexual encounters

Hey Greg I think you will agree that both of us might be being a tad literal when we assume DIA women will understand the subtleties of the meaning of these different words.

They all understand what open-minded means - I think liberated is a word they learn from school in their recitals from History lessons viz "General Macarthur liberated the Philippines from the Japanese occupation after WW2".

I have no quibbles with whatever words you choose to use to try to get female readers to understand that you DONT want to find a wife but you DO want to have lots of fun that includes humping and jumping. You just need to be careful with your choice of words so that DIA will not block you or that someone will be "offended" by your frankness and report you to the DIA authorities

[Genkisugiru]

Hey, G,

You are being too analytical.

Yes, it's one of my fatal flaws -- especially with women!

Do women act like that?

Are they so mechanical and predictable?

Did you just use "women" and predictable in the same phrase?!

Thanks again, for sharing your helpful insights and experiences. I've been lining up a diverse portfolio of chicks for my upcoming PH tour, and I'm pretty confident I'll have quite a time betwen the pre-arranged liaisons and impromptu local hunting.