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[X Man]

I know one guy who did this business, and these days much of it can be online. I think the threat of being "killed" is overstated, but obviously a concern. Of course the locals know the lay of the land better, but that is really the whole biz concept. The "investigator" is a Westerner that knows the customer as well as the lay of the land and has inside contacts / info.

Websites like this probably mean such services are less necessary, but you never know.

X

This comes up on various boards for 3rd world countries and the answers are usually the same.

Things to consider might include -

What is the going rate to have someone killed (eg a self-styled private investigator who is a pain)

There are much more fun ways of dancing with suicide.

And it really assumes that local people are so much more stupid/unknowledgeable than foreigners, when usually the opposite of reality. And why should anyone take such a person seriously / pay them when they have no verifiable track record as an investigator? People who fall in love with working girls should weigh up the odds themselves. Bit of a con otherwise.

On the other hand, would it not be kinder just to avoid disillusioning people.

Work and play usually are best kept separate until you are married to / in a partnership with a local. ;)

(Am all for discussion of all and anything - but the board is about helping people find paid sex by giving field reports of experiences rather than discussion. I think discussing this might be better suited to a chatroom, don't you?)

[Betong]

As there are lots of guys getting in loved with BGs etc why no local expat or someone else has started a private investigation office for following are these girls trustworthy?

At least several guys have tried doing this kind of business in Thailand over the years. I don't think any of them have lasted at it.

Basically there's no need to investigate bargirls, except to confirm that they're doing exactly what you'd expect them to be doing, regardless of the fact that one or more poor sod somewhere thinks he's in love with them.

[Betong]

On one occasion, I overstayed by one day but the officer did not notice!

I recently overstayed about 10 hours and while I didn't notice it, they sure did. P4040, paid at Clark Airport on my way out.

[Finrod]

There is some discussion of this in a few of the Yahoo Philippines forums; there are some guys on those forums who claim to do this so it's not like it hasn't been done before. But as usual one has to take their pitches with rock salt...

[Buko Max]

what are the penalties/fines for overstaying a 21 day tourist visa?

Overstayed my visa recently by three days and the total was just over 4000 php. About 3000 php for the extention plus 1000 php for the penalty. The fines go up the longer you fail to extend. On one occasion, I overstayed by one day but the officer did not notice!

[Amjeck]

what are the penalties/fines for overstaying a 21 day tourist visa?

[Jan 156]

Private Investigator in Philippine Islands.

As there are lots of guys getting in loved with BGs etc why no local expat or someone else has started a private investigation office for following are these girls trustworthy? Are these girls really the wife material? There for sure would be market for such service.

Of course no one local would appreciate that kind of activity. No bar girls, bar owners, local boy friends, fellow mongers, government officials, police... I do not know if it would be even legal... I think I answered my own questions. Maybe still there would be some suicidal or rather adventurous individuals for such venture?

This proposal is an initiation for open discussion. Just an idea. Do not take it too seriously.

This comes up on various boards for 3rd world countries and the answers are usually the same.

Things to consider might include -

What is the going rate to have someone killed (eg a self-styled private investigator who is a pain)

There are much more fun ways of dancing with suicide.

And it really assumes that local people are so much more stupid/unknowledgeable than foreigners, when usually the opposite of reality. And why should anyone take such a person seriously / pay them when they have no verifiable track record as an investigator? People who fall in love with working girls should weigh up the odds themselves. Bit of a con otherwise.

On the other hand, would it not be kinder just to avoid disillusioning people.

Work and play usually are best kept separate until you are married to / in a partnership with a local. ;)

(Am all for discussion of all and anything - but the board is about helping people find paid sex by giving field reports of experiences rather than discussion. I think discussing this might be better suited to a chatroom, don't you?)

[White Whale]

Private Investigator in Philippine Islands.

As there are lots of guys getting in loved with BGs etc why no local expat or someone else has started a private investigation office for following are these girls trustworthy? Are these girls really the wife material? There for sure would be market for such service.

Of course no one local would appreciate that kind of activity. No bar girls, bar owners, local boy friends, fellow mongers, government officials, police... I do not know if it would be even legal... I think I answered my own questions. Maybe still there would be some suicidal or rather adventurous individuals for such venture?

This proposal is an initiation for open discussion. Just an idea. Do not take it too seriously.

[Ekspat]

are suddenly confronted with a smorgasbord of white, hansum guys all of whom ogle them and try to hit on them and so their natural instincts to play will emerge, especially when they get bored with the same old sex at home.

Second risk is she'll get in touch with feminism-spoilt bitches who try to "rescue" her, because in their eyes she must be a sex slave.
Forget it, better stay with her in her home country.
The weather is better too.

Cheers!

[Jan 156]

I will do a 3 week trip to Malaysia, PL and Thailand essentially for monegring purposes with some work thrown in.

I would like to get 4 or 5 days on the beach in one of these countries where I can relax and monger.

That's a lot of places in 3wks. And Philippines IMHO is harder work to get around in than Malaysia or Thailand.

Koh Samui - all the tourists go to the south side of the island where all the noise nightlife and nooky resides. Do check you are not going in monsoon season whichever part you go to. But I mention it simply cos if you go to the north side - where the beaches face Ko Pan Yang - you can get a gorgeous bungalow on (yes, on) the beach for next to nothing. The worst I had was a cat yowling at night. The one bar will bring you breakfast, lunch, dinner, drinks without you moving off your hammock/couch of choice there. And any time you need sex you just get a motorbike ride into 'town.'

Hua Hin used to be awesome, but is much more built up now (I went past again on the way back from Koh Samui - don't let them tell you there's no ferry - it avoids the outrageous flight monopoly if you want to save money).

One Philippines beach I'd recommend if you don't care that it isn't perfect white sand is the the Blue Rock area just off Barretto. Not fun to to reach (Nowhere in PHP is unless you just bite the bullet and pay 5star tourist prices). But worth it for the great floating bar, the hotel of the same name that had good standards at very reasonable prices. I had a room about ten yards off the beach in case I didn't want to get sand between my toes. P4P available at the floating bar but more choice on the main Barretto road a few mins walk away. It' s not noisy, not as touristy as I imagine Boracay to be, and there's every manner of boating, diving, snorkling stuff available.

Of those, Koh Samui north side is the easiest. Fly to KS, taxi a short hop, P4P straightforward anywhere on the main strip, a short hop away. I'm sure Thailand still has gorgeous mainland beaches with P4P but where are they? A good thing about Thailand is the excellent transport links and the generally high availability of P4P. Malaysia has local restrictions to deal with and the best beaches don't coincide with the best P4P afaiaa. Philippines you have to negotiate the weird barfine system and avoid 'cherry girls' that act like they will, but won't.

Some of the possibilities I have come up with are;

Boracay in PL

Hua Hin in Thailand. I have diine the Pattaya, phuket ko samui thing.

Or a beach resort in Malaysia. Say penang

Any adivise would be appreciated.

Thz

Academy2300

[Rubio Tonto]

If you don't bring a girl with you, Sabang Beach area has a great combo of diving, beach, and girlie bars. You can stay directly on Sabang's crappy little "beach" and be within two minutes of the girlie action, or you can stay an 8-10 minute walk away on Small La Laguna's nicer (but average) beach. The girls in the Sabang bar/discos this past January were of a higher quality on average than those in the EDSA bars in Manila, the Burgos Street bars in Makati, or the Angeles City bars. And the scuba diving in the Sabang area is up there with the best shore-based diving in the whole country.

[Member #3428]

I would like to get 4 or 5 days on the beach in one of these countries where I can relax and monger.

If you have a girl, Boracay, take a girl with you, yes you can find in boracay but Indo beaches are better IMHO. Thai beaches are not good on either side IMHO unless you going very remote island. I'd still take Boracay or a Malay Beach over thai beaches, but I'll take thai ladies over Malay and I'll thai over Philippines any day of the week.

Going for just a beach, look malay and borocay. Problem is you don't say beach for what... lay out, swim, surf, diving, what?? You purposely leaving out Indo? Some good beaches in Indo and can get girls.

Overall sex and beach, I've had better times with PI girls and in Borocay then I've had in Malay but Malay is better for relaxing beaches. Better sex / beach combo is Indo.

[GoodEnough]

Has anyone gone to the Phillipines in May?

When is the best time to go. Early May or Late May?

May is the height of the summer here, so expect very hot and humid temperatures, which will of course vary slightly depending on where you are. By late may it will start to cool a little, but not much.

GE

[Red Kilt]

If you want to get a bargirl out get her out of AC. The temptations are too much for her to play behind your back.....

If you get her out of the bar and actually do get her back to her province than you might be OK BUT .... don't take her to your country if the age difference is any more than around 5 years.
Attractive and hot bar girls who get to anywhere in the west (USA, Australia, UK etc) are suddenly confronted with a smorgasbord of white, hansum guys all of whom ogle them and try to hit on them and so their natural instincts to play will emerge, especially when they get bored with the same old sex at home.

Unless of course they are madly truly deeply in love with you LOL

[El Toro]

Has anyone gone to the Phillipines in May?

When is the best time to go. Early May or Late May?