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[Amavida]

When I spoke of hoping that the Philippines was an improvement from the LOS I guess I am generally speaking of the attractiveness of the ladies and hopefully that the women are better in the sack. Thai women are OK, but after spending so much time in Europe and South America I'm used to having a wide choice of women of all skin tones and hair colors and when I returned to Bangkok a couple of years ago I simply found Thai women to be rather plain.

Well if asian women dont float your boat then you have your answer already DSK.

Also ..... Latin and European women tend to be more aggresive in the sack in my experience and I can get the PSE that I greatly prefer over the "yawn" GFE.

You can get PSE anywhere in the world if you look for it. LOS is cold commercial no holes barred PSE sex. PI is not noted for it but you can find it. 'Point & fuck' is more of a LOS thing. Pinays can converse in english hence the potential to develop a rapport. They tend to be shyer & less worldly than other asians initially.

Since I've had the pleasure to work with a lot of Filipinas I already know that there has to be some smoking babes in the PI. Only thing I don't no for sure is whether Filipinas are aggressive in the sack - or if they are shy starfishes. I've beeen told that Filipinas can be nymphos in bed and this is what I'm hoping for.

Like I said they tend to be shy & less worldly on average particularly in the poorer levels of their society. In the P4P scene let it be know what you prefer & you will find it. Amongst the non P4P move up the social strata & you start to come across some more confident & adventurous women. They may take a little time to develop trust in you but when they do the result can be very satisfying not to mention exhausting. I personally feel Pinays are warmer. Pinays love westerners & foreigners in general. Thais are more insular. Indonesians tend to be less comfortable with foreigners.

None-the-less, my favorite hunting grounds will continue to be South America and Europe. I just like to visit Asia from time to time. - DSK

Thats cool. So if you have a less than stellar experience you can remember its not your cup of tea to start with.
Cheers & hope you have a great time whatever you choose to do DSK.
AV

[Cunning Stunt]

GH, when you say 'difficult', let's keep this in perspective: it's harder than in the Philippines. In absolute terms, it's still pretty easy, if that's your aim. Take a girl out a few times, treat her well, and suddenly, more often than not, you may be surprised with just how GF-like she becomes. The only real difference, as I see it, is that in the PI it happens more often on the first, er, date, while in Thailand you kind of have to prove yourself by going back a couple times.

Yes, I know its still far from being difficult, but the great days of the impromptu GFE in LOS are gone. Pull up a sandbag and swing that light - but I remember, in the old days, bar fining girls and spending days with them. Or, on one memorable instance, 1 month down on a beach in Samui. Girls didn't used to be so materialistic and businesslike and there was no such thing as a ST (unless at your preference). I can understand the motivation as, like pro sports players, their careers are short and precarious and they need to make as much possible in as short a time as possible. But it doesn't mean that I have to like it.

In The Philippines, the girls are still of course looking after Number 1 and the main chance. But they are much more willing to enter into a relationship with the punter and at least attempt to give the satisfying illusion of intimacy rather than a cold, calculating business deal. This is why, if you enjoy the GFE over the PSE, the Philippines is the better bet.

[Betong]

Admittedly, it is difficult to get a great GFE there anymore, but not impossible, particularly in the more laid back Pattaya.

GH, when you say 'difficult', let's keep this in perspective: it's harder than in the Philippines. In absolute terms, it's still pretty easy, if that's your aim. Take a girl out a few times, treat her well, and suddenly, more often than not, you may be surprised with just how GF-like she becomes. The only real difference, as I see it, is that in the PI it happens more often on the first, er, date, while in Thailand you kind of have to prove yourself by going back a couple times.

[Devilspinkick]

When I spoke of hoping that the Philippines was an improvement from the LOS I guess I am generally speaking of the attractiveness of the ladies and hopefully that the women are better in the sack. Thai women are OK, but after spending so much time in Europe and South America I'm used to having a wide choice of women of all skin tones and hair colors and when I returned to Bangkok a couple of years ago I simply found Thai women to be rather plain. Also ..... Latin and European women tend to be more aggresive in the sack in my experience and I can get the PSE that I greatly prefer over the "yawn" GFE.

Since I've had the pleasure to work with a lot of Filipinas I already know that there has to be some smoking babes in the PI. Only thing I don't no for sure is whether Filipinas are aggressive in the sack - or if they are shy starfishes. I've beeen told that Filipinas can be nymphos in bed and this is what I'm hoping for. None-the-less, my favorite hunting grounds will continue to be South America and Europe. I just like to visit Asia from time to time.

- DSK

[Amavida]

I'm not so sure that the hottest women working in PI are in Makati anymore. It wasn't very good this last March in my opinion.

I dont think this was true for a long time. I will say that the women in the makati bars tend to be presented better. On average I would say they are no better than anywhere else in PI (bars) in fact. people tell me that the KTV bars in Manila that cater for cashed up Asians have the cream of the crop. I've been dragged to them by clients & agree that there is mighty fine eye candy in those places but whether or not they are P4P in the same way as AC & Burgos is a question to be answered.
AV

[Key Master]

Since Makati supposedly has the hottest working women in PI and Davao is the best place to pick up hot non-working "regular" locals in the PI.

I'm not so sure that the hottest women working in PI are in Makati anymore. It wasn't very good this last March in my opinion.

[Cunning Stunt]

So for a person who speaks Thai like myself then Thailand would be perfect? I keep hearing the women in Thailand don't give GFE but since I speak Thai would I get good GFE no problem or is this unrelated to being able to speak their language? I've been to the PI and I really liked Angeles. I hated the fact that there was not one bar that had drop-dead stunners ONLY. I don't know if your exaggerating about there being gorgeous women everywhere but that would be nice though. I will visit Davao and Makati though first before I go to Thailand. Since Makati supposedly has the hottest working women in PI and Davao is the best place to pick up hot non-working "regular" locals in the PI. That way I can do the same in Thailand and compare.

I'm thinking of venturing to Thailand on a side trip to experience it for the first time.

P.S.. Yes, for those wondering. I do speak a number of languages Thai and Tagalog/Ilocano being three of them. I was a CTI in the Navy for the retired hands amongst us.

I would third GE and X. If you were to choose a perfect place for a vacation, I don’t think you could top Thailand. Lovely people, scenery, beaches, food, history and culture. Efficient transport network and great hotels at reasonable prices. Does it get any better? And all this and the best organised p4p scene in Asia.

Admittedly, it is difficult to get a great GFE there anymore, but not impossible, particularly in the more laid back Pattaya.

Lets me get this right. You have never been to Thailand and have only visited The Philippines as a tourist but khun poot pah sah Thai and magsalita ng Tagalog. Khun ben matalinong lalaki!

[Laylow3]

So for a person who speaks Thai like myself then Thailand would be perfect? I keep hearing the women in Thailand don't give GFE but since I speak Thai would I get good GFE no problem or is this unrelated to being able to speak their language? I've been to the PI and I really liked Angeles. I hated the fact that there was not one bar that had drop-dead stunners ONLY. I don't know if your exaggerating about there being gorgeous women everywhere but that would be nice though. I will visit Davao and Makati though first before I go to Thailand. Since Makati supposedly has the hottest working women in PI and Davao is the best place to pick up hot non-working "regular" locals in the PI. That way I can do the same in Thailand and compare.

I'm thinking of venturing to Thailand on a side trip to experience it for the first time.

P.S.. Yes, for those wondering. I do speak a number of languages Thai and Tagalog/Ilocano being three of them. I was a CTI in the Navy for the retired hands amongst us.

[GoodEnough]

Where to concentrate your efforts depends, as others have implied, on what you want from your trip. If it's gorgeous and available women everywhere, great food, a fascinating culture and an extremely interesting country, then head for Thailand. If you're looking for endlessly available women, many of whom will give you GFE and you do not care about the food or the culture, and if the ability to communicate in English is important to you, then choose the Philippines. For me, it would be Thailand every time.

[X Man]

Sounds like a good plan. And the way you've explained it, you're not lying at all -- just witholding information!

I'm not sure what you would consider a "step up" from Thailand. The big advantage of PI in my opinion is that the ladies speak English and you can get "girl-friend expierience" (gfe) from p4p girls, and better yet you can get gfe from regular ladies. The latter option is easier once you've learned a bit about the society and culture, but not impossible in your one week time frame -- especially from a horndog like you.

When it comes to food, hotels, exotic culture and history, and stunning p4p, Thailand has many advantages.

Have fun, X

I have actually come up with a decent plan. I'll fly to Indonesia and ...SNIP

Thanks - DSK

[Shayman]

Hi X Man

I treat San Fernando as a chill out place. There is entertainment if you want it. I never made it to Poro this trip only passing through of a trike. It looked busy with locals. I used to enjoy the Intercon Disco.

Shayman

[Devilspinkick]

Thanks for your input X-man but I must say that I'm going to lie my ass off. I have a good gig that allows me to travel and chase chicks fairly often. I'm not going to mess up a good thing by having to explain myself to co-workers. Granted that I'm single and it's already well known that I'm a horn-dog; I just don't want to take the chance of losing my job because some femi-nazi accuses me of being a sex tourist.

I have actually come up with a decent plan. I'll fly to Indonesia and spend a few days there taking pictures and stuff (I've always wanted to visit Borobudur anyway). Then I could catch a flight to Manila and spend a week hitting the Go-Gos there and at Angeles. I'll have nice photos to show of Indonesia and I might mention that I happened to have an unplanned layover in Manila for a few hours (heh, hehe, heh). If only I can pull this off.

It will be my first time visiting the PI and hope it is a step up from Thailand (which I've been to 5 times). Maybe I'll get to visit Lake Taal - seems to be a beautiful place.

Thanks - DSK

[Amavida]

I'm still making plans to visit the PI, but I've heard you guys talk about a Filipina network that the ladies use to keep track of mongers. It concerned me enough to change my plans earlier this year and go to Europe instead. The problem is that I work with a lot of Filipinas and I don't want them to know that I'm over there bonking their cousins and sisters. Is this really something to be concerned about?

I still plan to go .... but I'm not going to tell ANYONE at work where I'm going. I'm lie and say I'm going to someplace like Indonesia instead.

- DSK

What they are referring to is the way Filipinos have close family/social networks. Its not uncommon in other nationalities also. Expat filipinas rely on it just like any expat.

I wouldn't let it stop you coming here, in fact I encourage you to visit at least once if you like asian women & you like having sex with lots of beautiful young women at a fraction of the cost of western countries. You'll probably enjoy it a lot.

Don't be embarrassed about your flip work mates knowing you came here for a holiday. Big deal? Tell them as much or as little as you want. Sure maybe they will rib you about it but just smile, ignore them & remember the good times you had... ;)
AV

[X Man]

Shayman,

Great post: travel information, adventure, humour, sex, drunkeness, falling-down drunkeness --- I think there is a little bit of everything there.

It's been a quarter century since I visited San Fernando, La Union. Was it worth the trip?

Thanks for the great post.

X Man

[X Man]

I don't think you meant that literally, but if you tell them you are visiting the Philippines they may give you some phone numbers and ....you may very well be "boinking their cousins and sisters".

I doubt that the working girls in the bars will have any connection with the people you work with. So, are you just worried about the gossip?

If you have a girlfriend or wife who is among these people you work with, there may be some risk that they will suspect you are on a sx tour.

If they are just friends/ colleagues, tell them you are going hiking or diving or something. Offer to buy someone on this list a beer and then you can say you have an "old friend" who lives in the Philippines. Take a camera and take some photos of the tourist spots so that you have an alibi.

If you lie and get caught out, then you will look foolish (and guilty).

I don't think you should be concerned. I think you should be asking them about the Philippines. Then when you book your flight you can thank them for giving you the idea of going to their beautiful country.

Travel photo attached.

X

I'm still making plans to visit the PI, but I've heard you guys talk about a Filipina network that the ladies use to keep track of mongers. It concerned me enough to change my plans earlier this year and go to Europe instead. The problem is that I work with a lot of Filipinas and I don't want them to know that I'm over there bonking their cousins and sisters. Is this really something to be concerned about?

I still plan to go .... but I'm not going to tell ANYONE at work where I'm going. I'm lie and say I'm going to someplace like Indonesia instead.

- DSK