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  1. #6681
    Stay safe over there.

  2. #6680
    Quote Originally Posted by Buko Max  [View Original Post]
    That building was originally a Sheraton and they abandoned it. Consequently, it was left empty for several years. The land that it sits on is reclaimed land and that coupled with major building defects is why I would never stay there. Hard to say what Radisson did to rectify all the problems.
    Correct BM.

    It was originally meant to be a state-of-the-art Sheraton and the shell had been completed around 2000 but then I understand major structural defects were found in the foundations and it sat there idle for the next 10 years before it miraculously re-opened as a Radisson Blue.

    An engineering friend of mine said that the defects could not be patched-up and the building should have been demolished and rebuilt. I guess a building inspector received a new SUV for ticking off the right boxes but that might be unkind.

    That was the story I presumed was the real one right through from 2000 to now and I wouldn't attend a cocktail party there never mind staying there.

    I guess we will never really know what is the real deal.

  3. #6679
    WR, We thought that was just you getting laid again. Cheers, mate!

  4. #6678

    Rad

    Quote Originally Posted by David_33  [View Original Post]
    I have no idea. Someone mentioned "wet cement" when speaking of the Radisson's history. That's why I thought that W. R. or someone else immersed in Cebu lore might know what it referred to. I'll ask around anyway.
    That building was originally a Sheraton and they abandoned it. Consequently, it was left empty for several years. The land that it sits on is reclaimed land and that coupled with major building defects is why I would never stay there. Hard to say what Radisson did to rectify all the problems.

  5. #6677
    Quote Originally Posted by David_33  [View Original Post]
    I have no idea. Someone mentioned "wet cement" when speaking of the Radisson's history. That's why I thought that W. R. or someone else immersed in Cebu lore might know what it referred to. I'll ask around anyway.
    Is when the cement is poured too wet and does not 'cure' properly. In the MIddle East they only pour and cast cement in darkness in the evening due to temperatures. Something along the lines that making the cement mix too weak (likley not using enough of the stuff maybe to cut costs) = wet cement = poor quality construction = it falls down eventually.

    Am sure an enginnering monger has a better idea but basically was told it is a weak structure.

  6. #6676
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahku  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, I'm being told that they may not allow guests in the hotel for the rest of the week, for safety reasons. They have to give the hotel a thorough structural inspection. I may vamoos up the coast to Danao since I have a girl up there.
    Makhu did not you were around, come to my hotel, it swayed like others did but this was nowhere a bad one (I have been in 4 quakes before)

    My hotel is open and lots guests I shold know as 2 more arriving soon.

    Check PM.

  7. #6675
    Quote Originally Posted by X Man  [View Original Post]
    D33, what is a wet cement defect?
    I have no idea. Someone mentioned "wet cement" when speaking of the Radisson's history. That's why I thought that W. R. or someone else immersed in Cebu lore might know what it referred to. I'll ask around anyway.

  8. #6674

    The Rad

    Well, if it swayed it was probably done up right. Of course the swaying isn't too good for the elevator equipment, nor for those prone to seasickness. And after 3/11 Japan disaster, some of my Tokyo friends regret living or working in high rises.

    As for construction defects rumours, the building that is now the Rad was built but left unopen for many years.but was that because of a construction problem or an unpaid bribe? I think it was originally meant to be a Hyatt.

    D33, what is a wet cement defect?

    Quote Originally Posted by David_33  [View Original Post]
    Yes, there were some wet cement or other kind of building defect rumors about that place. W. R. Probably knows about them.

  9. #6673

    Ayala

    Found a cutie near taxi rank exit yesterday, played with my balls a lot and scrotam and only wanted 600 true true true, starfish ride though did not care after balls played with for so long.

  10. #6672
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahku  [View Original Post]
    They have to give the hotel a thorough structural inspection.
    Yes, there were some wet cement or other kind of building defect rumors about that place. W. R. Probably knows about them.

  11. #6671
    Radisson swayed back and forth quite a bit. Luckily I was only on the 8th floor this time. My last 2 times here I was on the executive (20th) floor. I can only imagine what a mess it is up there now.

    The hotel has taken pretty good care of us. Everybody went out to the back garden area. They put out most of a usual buffet breakfast. Drinks, including San Migs, have been flowing for free all morning. I wish I knew you other guys were here. I could have invited you over. It pays to be in a nice hotel when these things go down. You have a better chance to be taken care of. As of now, SM is still not open and I imagine most malls and restaurants are still closed.

    Unfortunately, I'm being told that they may not allow guests in the hotel for the rest of the week, for safety reasons. They have to give the hotel a thorough structural inspection. I may vamoos up the coast to Danao since I have a girl up there.

  12. #6670
    Quote Originally Posted by David_33  [View Original Post]
    Ayala construction held up although being on the 12th floor this morning was definitely not an advantage. Executive lounge wiped out with food, glasses, etc. all over the floor. Very alarming and lots of nervous guests evacuated out to Ayala Mall lawn. I just discovered how out of shape I am after climbing the stairs back to my room. Luckily no cutie around at the time of the quake.
    Ayala is closed as I keep gong there as need a shot of good coffee but am told there is some structural damage (from your vantage pint you will know sooner than me). When the aftershocks cam most ran out of my hotel but the only ones left reading the paper and asking for more tea were the westerners. Some like me have been in worse earthquakes so this is cool but I know that the building quality has a lot to be reckoned for her so that is the worry for anyone. No glasses etc broken here and the elevators also fine saves me walking up numerous flights of stairs also.

    Quest hotel is cordoned off with yellow tape and a friend said Raja Palace is closed (more yellow tape) , Winland condo tower shook heavily and maybe some damage there, some damage around Osmena Circle with Robinsons closed (or it was an hour ago)

    Maybe best stay in with a cutie and protect her from more aftershocks LOL.

  13. #6669
    Ayala construction held up although being on the 12th floor this morning was definitely not an advantage. Executive lounge wiped out with food, glasses, etc. all over the floor. Very alarming and lots of nervous guests evacuated out to Ayala Mall lawn. I just discovered how out of shape I am after climbing the stairs back to my room. Luckily no cutie around at the time of the quake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wicked Roger  [View Original Post]
    Was a reasonably sized eqarthquake this morning. See link below. Hotl shaken around as were most buildings (David how aas Marriott, shaken not stirred)

    Already the cuties are texting me about buildings that have fallen down, some are scared some and worried about another as there are more aftershocks as I write.

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/06...iref=allsearch

    SuperChi how is that for excitement?

  14. #6668

    Earthquake

    Was a reasonably sized eqarthquake this morning. See link below. Hotl shaken around as were most buildings (David how aas Marriott, shaken not stirred)

    Already the cuties are texting me about buildings that have fallen down, some are scared some and worried about another as there are more aftershocks as I write.

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/06...iref=allsearch

    SuperChi how is that for excitement?

  15. #6667

    Arrived

    Have arrived here this weekend for 2 months. Super excited. Any information is more than welcome.

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