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  1. #6786
    Quote Originally Posted by Questor55  [View Original Post]
    All the guys who claim that 2000. 3000 Pesos is justified have completely lost any sort of economic perspective! Guys, you're advocating a full week's pay or more, for a girl who is typically either unemployed or making minimum wage. This is the Philippines and conditioning these girl's to expect a relative fortune is not realistic or justified at all, IMHO!
    A base rate of 1500 php with a 500 php tip for extra attention to detail is exactly that: a base rate.

    It is wrong to equate regular work (sales girl; maid; factory worker on 300 php per day) with a perceived "job" of giving up their body for the same amount.

    It is not a "job" for a regular girl on a GFE outing.

    I will continue to give 2000 php as a base rate, and I don't care what anyone else says.

  2. #6785
    Quote Originally Posted by FruitNinja  [View Original Post]
    I'm amazed at what sh*t guys will pull to beat these girls out of their due. I do well here at home continuously banging HOT 20 year old college cuties. I usually pay anywhere from 200-300, plus transportation, and usually a hot meal. I turned a buddy on to one and all of the sudden he's beating her down to 100, then he wants a BJ for 40, then he wants to trade something for a session. He took a nice cute little Italian spinner and turned her into a. But at the end of the day she doesn't see him anymore nor would I ever again give him one of my girls. On the other end of the spectrum I turned a rich buddy on to another girl and he totally ruined it. I was giving her $250 and she was happy but after he gave her $600 my $250 didn't cut it. So she doesn't even answer my texts. Last one he'll get. Moderation.

    I mean 1000p is $22usd. I spent $260 on dinner for three last night. That's with 2 bottles of wine and tip. I've never given less than 2000p for a girl. That's just me. The last one I did in Manila traveled 2 hours to see me. She was very pleasant, took me to try Jolibee, she was so proud to have me experience this. These are some of the most GFE girls that I've ever experienced. Even the girls I was pulling out of clubs were great. I haven't seen that since I used to go to Cuba.

    My best story from Angeles no less was the girl that I took LT. She knew I was leaving in the morning. I woke up to find her folding and packing my clothes. Find another WG that will do that.
    I agree that giving too much spoils things. I know a bakla hairdresser that is renting out top shelf Filipinas. About half of them are ex-GRO's that got tired of the bar scene, the rest are students. They go with rich Asian clients and select Westerners in town on holiday. The guys pay the bakla a daily rate and everyone is happy. Usually they spoil the Filipinas with a lot of shopping and gifts plus a nice tip when they leave. These girls are worth it though. Tall, thin and very beautiful. A lot of them previously spent time exclusively with Western guys but have found better pay for less work. No more cheap charlie syndrome.

    I recently bumped into one that I knew at yellow cab in BTC. She was with 2 other Filipinas and 3 Japanese tourists. We just smiled at each other and I texted her hello. She texted she was working LOL and that her afternoons were free while her guest played golf, and we should catch up over coffee. Never did get that coffee as my dance card was full, but good to see she was well taken care of.

    Cheers mate.

  3. #6784
    David,

    I don't think many here would foot the 585P per month cost of Diane 35 in the PI (costs 1/3rd that in Thailand where it's made).

    Flaming guys for being generous with the girls is not warranted IMHO; 2,000 Pisos is less than $50, hardly a ripoff for LT.

  4. #6783
    Quote Originally Posted by Redman69  [View Original Post]
    1 Don't worry about the girls finishing college. They will just get prego, have babies and stay at home anyhow.
    Not if you are also supplying them with Diane-35.

  5. #6782

    Perspective

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    I give 1000 pesos per day. If she is good I take her shopping, disco, dinner etc.
    All the guys who claim that 2000. 3000 Pesos is justified have completely lost any sort of economic perspective! Guys, you're advocating a full week's pay or more, for a girl who is typically either unemployed or making minimum wage. This is the Philippines and conditioning these girl's to expect a relative fortune is not realistic or justified at all, IMHO!

  6. #6781

    Girls

    Let me start off by saying I just married a girl from Cebu, And she has just been diagnosed with a real thyroid problem. Being here in the states with insurance will save her life.

    But in my time there I have met many money hustling women pro and non. I am sick and dyeing, my mom just died on and on as you all know. I was married to a pina before and some of my nieces having even told me they had cancer and needed money for treatment. I think the girls and their Moms there know how to milk the sucker. And there is one born every minute. I agree that for us what is 2000 peso, But it also does not take long for the stories to change and the money issues come up. They are women first. And you can not believe what any of them tell you. Here or there.

    I also agree when the service stinks my attitude changes also. I do pay them to go away.

    I guess is I am trying to warn guys here and all over RP, pussy ain't free. You will pay for it. Just try not to safe that bottomless pit called RP. Don't worry about the girls finishing college. They will just get prego, have babies and stay at home anyhow. Be nice, be fair. But do not buy into their dreams.

  7. #6780

    Couldn't have said it better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stroker Ace88  [View Original Post]
    In the end, the downfall of the Philippines as an excellent monger destination will be thrown at the feet of cheap charlies. They have a way of changing a sexually inexperienced and willing GFE Filipina into a cynical wreck. They sap every last ounce of happiness out of her. Sad but true. I will not go into the details of all the Filipinas I know that have come into contact with the dreaded 'Charlieitis Occidentali', but the encounters change a Filipina. So when a guy bangs a Filipina and wants to pay her in onions, you know the bottom of the barrel idiots are out there and the end is near.

    I think it's important to make a distinction. I'm talking about non-pros. Filipinas that are students, service crew workers or just the average Filipina you meet online or in person in the Philippines. They are not pros, they do not demand money nor do they consider what they do as a job. They consider it fun and they get to go shopping, go out to eat or the movies and taken care of with small amounts of cash to help them out. A true GFE experience, and that goes both ways. The guy should take good care of the Filipina when they spend time together, but there are exceptions. Pay for play pros.

    I have been with GRO's and short-time Filipinas from Mango that promise a lot and are super fun in the bar, Once barfined and in the room they change. They turn into cold fish and all things previously discussed and deemed OK are suddenly off the table or not available. I have kicked Filipinas out of my room for this with zero tip. I make it clear tip is based on service level. These types of pros are good at twisting a foreigner into opening his wallet just to get her out of the room. I think most of us have all been there at one time or another, so will not go into it. That's why I usually avoid GRO's and prefer non-pro Filipinas with few exceptions.
    I'm amazed at what sh*t guys will pull to beat these girls out of their due. I do well here at home continuously banging HOT 20 year old college cuties. I usually pay anywhere from 200-300, plus transportation, and usually a hot meal. I turned a buddy on to one and all of the sudden he's beating her down to 100, then he wants a BJ for 40, then he wants to trade something for a session. He took a nice cute little Italian spinner and turned her into a *****. But at the end of the day she doesn't see him anymore nor would I ever again give him one of my girls. On the other end of the spectrum I turned a rich buddy on to another girl and he totally ruined it. I was giving her $250 and she was happy but after he gave her $600 my $250 didn't cut it. So she doesn't even answer my texts. Last one he'll get. Moderation.

    I mean 1000p is $22usd. I spent $260 on dinner for three last night. That's with 2 bottles of wine and tip. I've never given less than 2000p for a girl. That's just me. The last one I did in Manila traveled 2 hours to see me. She was very pleasant, took me to try Jolibee, she was so proud to have me experience this. These are some of the most GFE girls that I've ever experienced. Even the girls I was pulling out of clubs were great. I haven't seen that since I used to go to Cuba.

    My best story from Angeles no less was the girl that I took LT. She knew I was leaving in the morning. I woke up to find her folding and packing my clothes. Find another WG that will do that.

  8. #6779
    In the end, the downfall of the Philippines as an excellent monger destination will be thrown at the feet of cheap charlies. They have a way of changing a sexually inexperienced and willing GFE Filipina into a cynical wreck. They sap every last ounce of happiness out of her. Sad but true. I will not go into the details of all the Filipinas I know that have come into contact with the dreaded 'Charlieitis Occidentali', but the encounters change a Filipina. So when a guy bangs a Filipina and wants to pay her in onions, you know the bottom of the barrel idiots are out there and the end is near.

    I think it's important to make a distinction. I'm talking about non-pros. Filipinas that are students, service crew workers or just the average Filipina you meet online or in person in the Philippines. They are not pros, they do not demand money nor do they consider what they do as a job. They consider it fun and they get to go shopping, go out to eat or the movies and taken care of with small amounts of cash to help them out. A true GFE experience, and that goes both ways. The guy should take good care of the Filipina when they spend time together, but there are exceptions. Pay for play pros.

    I have been with GRO's and short-time Filipinas from Mango that promise a lot and are super fun in the bar, Once barfined and in the room they change. They turn into cold fish and all things previously discussed and deemed OK are suddenly off the table or not available. I have kicked Filipinas out of my room for this with zero tip. I make it clear tip is based on service level. These types of pros are good at twisting a foreigner into opening his wallet just to get her out of the room. I think most of us have all been there at one time or another, so will not go into it. That's why I usually avoid GRO's and prefer non-pro Filipinas with few exceptions.

  9. #6778
    Yes W. R, I agree 100%. Also the cheap charlies can forget about ever being introduced to the girls' cute friends, cousins, sisters, etc.

  10. #6777
    Quote Originally Posted by Brymor  [View Original Post]
    This is a very subjective matter, depending on the quality of service provided by the girl, whether she is an ordinary girl looking for a foreign benefactor or a pro or semi pro, how long she stays with you, your budget and many other variables. As a rule of thumb I usually pay 1500 for a girl that stays a couple of hours and about 2000 for an overnight. Some guys may think this is being a cheap charlie others may pay less,
    Good observations Brymor. Don't be a cheap charlie especially if they are non pro (say they are at college etc) and a 1000 pesos is cheap charlie territory IMHO. I also pay the taxi fare more so if the girl has come a long way. A nice touch and what is 200 pesos to a guy who has paid much more to fly over from the USA for example and stay in a nice hotel (unless you are one of the very cheap punters I have had the 'pleasure' of meeting and seeing in Cebu).

    No non pro will ever complain but will expect something (they likely ant to give some cash to the mother and keep some for school) and being cheap means you won't see them again . One guy I know paid his girl 1000 pesos no taxi etc and she told me (while at my place discussing politics and greater world affairs LOL) she would never see him again as he treated her like a 'dog', this is a college girl needing cash to help the tuition fees etc not pro.

    Now some may disagree entirely with the above and like being cheap and saving 100-200 pesos and showing the girl they are cheap, but not me. It pays dividends if you pay a tad more, show some respect and are a nice guy (albeit horny as hell and at times for some of us, kinky as well LOL)

    Good to see you Brymor, keep shagging!

  11. #6776

    Boofa69

    Quote Originally Posted by Global Citizen  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    I'm planning to come to Cebu in a couple of weeks and was wondering what I should tip a DIA girl that I'm planning on meeting. I've RTFF but can't find any recent price guidelines.

    Thanks.

    GC
    This is a very subjective matter, depending on the quality of service provided by the girl, whether she is an ordinary girl looking for a foreign benefactor or a pro or semi pro, how long she stays with you, your budget and many other variables. As a rule of thumb I usually pay 1500 for a girl that stays a couple of hours and about 2000 for an overnight. Some guys may think this is being a cheap charlie others may pay less, like I said it is very subjective. If you really like a girl then you can usually judge whether she is satisfied with what you pay based on whether she is in a hurry or not to see you again. Almost without exception, most non pro / semi pros will not help you out with a fair pricing policy, if you tell them you would like to give them some money for shopping, taxi or whatever, if you ask them how much they want invariably they will answer "its up to you?" If you underpay them and they are not happy with what you give, most regular girls and even semi pros will not say anything to you but they are unlikely to see you ever again. Pros (of which there are many on DIA) will usually be quite forthright about what renumeration they expect

  12. #6775
    Quote Originally Posted by Global Citizen  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    I'm planning to come to Cebu in a couple of weeks and was wondering what I should tip a DIA girl that I'm planning on meeting. I've RTFF but can't find any recent price guidelines.

    Thanks.

    GC
    I give 1000 pesos per day. If she is good I take her shopping, disco, dinner etc.

  13. #6774
    Quote Originally Posted by Global Citizen  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    I'm planning to come to Cebu in a couple of weeks and was wondering what I should tip a DIA girl that I'm planning on meeting. I've RTFF but can't find any recent price guidelines.

    Thanks.

    GC
    Depends which area she comes from. Province girls 1, 000pesos and city girls 1, 500 is sufficient. Remember to tip these girls discreetly.

  14. #6773

    Pricing

    Hi All,

    I'm planning to come to Cebu in a couple of weeks and was wondering what I should tip a DIA girl that I'm planning on meeting. I've RTFF but can't find any recent price guidelines.

    Thanks.

    GC

  15. #6772
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Kilt  [View Original Post]
    I carry two money clips; one with small bills (100s. 50s and 20s) and the other with the 1000 and 500 bills. If anyone holds me up with a gun or a knife I will give them the small bills. We are advised not to hand them over but to throw them to the side onto the ground. Same for a cell phone. Throw it aside and then run like hell.
    Good idea, RK. I carry my big bills in a money belt.

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