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02-10-12 23:42 #2625Thank you.
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Back in the good old days before they "developed" the bat cave one could go into the cave. Quite intense and with a lot of predators (rats, snakes, cats, giant lizards, etc) eating the old and / or sick bats that fell down on the bat shit. Needless to say, a swim in the sea was required after 1000 000 bats took a dump in your hair.
Hagimit falls also used to be quite untouched. Now they "developed" that as well. Developed as in fucked it all up and built stupid houses and tables for the rice consumption and chit chat. Back in the days there would also be people but mostly just a handful of them. The place was clean and some people even lived in the forest around the falls. Quite funny to have a swim with your babe and then suddenly you would see a face staring at you in the leaves 30-40 meters up. And the local tribe boys would smoke their weed and drink their tuba with no one bitching about it. Simply a great place for natural recreation.
I am hopefully scouting out another water fall on the way from Pinia Plata over the mountain to Kaanan in a couple of weeks, and if anyone is around and have a decent motorbike, it would be good with some company. It sound more dramatic than it is, so no need to be Jacques Cousteau to tag along.
You see some odd things when driving out in the "jungle" like this. Once I saw a boy of some 15-16 years washing himself in an out door shower area just next to the dirt road. He was wearing a tank top and nothing else, and he had a hard on that he soaped very carefully. Two girls that looked to be at least a couple of years younger than him, was sitting just 2 meters away with big eyes and huge smiles on their face. They seemed totally comfortable with me and my girl passing on the bike, and "Hi Joe"-ed us happily us before continuing the exploration of what most likely would become their number one jungle hobby. I think I was the only one that felt embarrassed.
It is not super hard to meet ladies in the villages on Samal if you have some time. Just pass the Muslim areas and go to the Christian places. You are still a bit of a movie star in many of the villages on little Samal. But I should maybe say "to meed A lady" because serial mongering would be harder since these are small societies with the social control that comes with any such place. I remember once driving from Kaputian to Babak to catch the ferry, and this young slim girl with HUGE tits in just a thin white cotton t-shirt walked over the road just in front of me. I drove slowly and could see her jugs rolling and hopping in the t-shirt. Hard nipples and a washed out almost transparent t-shirt. Her tits where perfect and way to big for her tiny body. Instant reaction in my pants. She looked, said Hello, and smiled invitingly, and Barba had one of those male teenage black outs. The ones where you later ask yourself "why the fuck did I not stop and talk to her!". When I managed to get a grip and had turned the bike around to go back, she was consumed by the jungle.
Barba
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02-10-12 14:05 #2624Barba, Originally Posted by Barba
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Some good info and great pics.
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02-10-12 00:03 #2623
Samal
Thanks for the information. Barba Originally Posted by Barba
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02-09-12 03:25 #2622
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Hello! Originally Posted by Undakovabrotha
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I have reported on Samal and Talicud a few times here in the Davao thread. Think something ended up in the ROD section as well. Great island to cruise around on with a bike or and some decent options for a day or over night visit if you are in Davao. There are a lot of resorts and many are simple, but places lie BaliBali and Pearl Farm have a higher class. Compared to Thailand it is not good value. Blue Jazz and Paradise beach is packed most often and boats runs from morning to 5-ish from Lanang. OK food and some entertainment like jetski for 2000-2500 PHP. The ferry from Sasa (north of Davao. Use taxi) lands at Camp Holiday. A "new" but quite simple place where you pay some 1200-1500 for a bungalow or room. The pool is not crystal clear buy still OK most days. Food is totally useless so I advice to take a bike to Babak and buy a barbecued chicken at least. A lot of drunk pinoy on weekends.
Class is always fucked up severely when the wrong people try to do it, so I prefer to visit simple places with a lot of space, a clean beach and a barbecue to tuck a slice of freshly caught tuna on. Isla Reta on Talicud (ferry from St Anna warf at 9 AM and 10 AM) or some of the paces you find when driving along the cost, have this simple yet charming characteristics. The "resort" in Kaputian is convenient and a cheap pinoy alternative with a boat from St Anna warf. If you have a boat or an off road bike, you can find some great beaches with very few people. Bring you own woman if you are only going for a couple of days.
Barba
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02-06-12 23:15 #2621
Barba, we're anxious to see you here. The first night's dinner's on me. We'll go to one of the new places. I understand that every woman in Davao between the ages of 18 and 25 is excited that you're coming back.
GE
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02-06-12 21:09 #2620
This is music to Barba's ears, GE.
Tsuru has been going down hill for years so another option for Japanese food is extremely welcome.
Some guys complain about regulars not contributing about how to score punani in the Cebu thread, and things got to be even less vibrant in this thread. But there is not much to report about that was not written about 100 times or more. The food scene is more exciting and dynamic than hunting grounds. Malls, Hybrid, Tionko, San Pedro and Plaza Roman. That's about it folks, with a few more exceptions.
Still I am happy to return.
See you, GE and whomever else might be around!
Barba
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02-05-12 07:41 #2619
The Expanding Restaurant Continuum
I was in the Ayala Abreeza mall yesterday, and it had only been a couple of weeks since I was there last. I was gratified at the number of new, high-end shops that have opened. It's starting to resemble a place in which it's actually pleasant to shop. Armani Exchange, for example, is now there, as is Nine West and Occitane. Given the sparsity of people I'm not sure how or if it's making money-I'm told it's generally perceived by Filipinos as a "mall for the rich"-but then, that's not my problem.
I noticed three new or newish restaurants while there. One of them, Spirale, also has a branch very close to my office and I eat lunch there several times a week. The food, all of it Italian, is very good, and the new branch in Ayala as the identical menu and prices. This place has, in my opinion, the best pizza in Davao. The second place I noticed is Japanese, and called The Red Kimono. We didn't eat there, but we did go inside and glance at the menu, which features lots of sushi and sashimi in addition to other traditional Japanese dishes. It's quite attractive, and I was told it also does home delivery, which is nice on those nights that you're craving sushi but don't want to go out. The third place is a Chocolatier Café, with a fairly extensive menu. All dishes somehow involve chocolate in the preparation, including the pasta. I'm told by a friend that it's reasonably good; it's certainly very attractive.
There's another new place being constructed next to Don Beppe, the restaurant on the new 5th floor of Gaisano. I've no clue what's going in there, but given that the floor is reserved for "high-end" restaurants, I can always hope.
After another excellent meal last night at Bon Appétit, and with the availabilty of the reliable and good older places like De Bonte Koe and Café, plus the good newer ones like Don Beppe, the range of choice for decent food has increased dramatically.
GE
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01-28-12 06:58 #2618
*****house-escorts
Hey guys,
Any one have experience with the carsuh houses or *****houses? What are the rpices, what is the quality, what is the location?
Love to hear it.
Greetz,
Swingding
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01-24-12 16:11 #2617
my trip to davao:
first of all, let me describe to an extent the outline of my adventure.
my buddy is an experienced guy, kinda a monger but (i discovered) in a strange way. i am relatively inexperienced, both at mongering, and at women in general. we came with the simultaneous purpose of 1) diving. 2) getting chicks. 3) meeting up with our friend who lived here and 4) relaxing. sadly we only accomplished two of these in davao.
when we visited, we had contacted girls via various websites and my friend had a girl meet us at the airport. her two sisters and uncle had come along, and we got a taxi to the docks (our first stop). along the way, my friend talking to the girl aside while i chatted with the unattractive sisters to make peace. apparently as we were disembarking at the docks, the girl had said to my friend that she had to go to her daughter's communion that day. my friend kinda took that as a sign of she had to leave, and we said bye to them and got the diving stuff prepared. i did the first part of my diving course and apparently my friend just stayed there and chatted with the owner.
that night sucked. apparently that whole area of town blows. has no wifi or coffeeshops; it's all like industrial wharfs. several of the hotels we visited were booked and we finally found one that seemed adequate. we finally got one, went off to the mall, and got girls phone numbers. this one girl, ivyjean, contacted me and said she'd come meet me. then when she was nearby my hotel and texted again that she would "come up to your room". me and my friends exchanged glances of "awesome". my friend skiddaddled, but not before begging me to see if she had a friend who'd want to hook up with him.
i met her in my room. i was really ready for a good time and chatted her down. she was super-friendly. obviously she liked me, and i kept on nudging and touching her. i played a little game with her of "i'll take my clothes off if you take yours." i don't know how it worked but it did! by this point i was pretty sure she was just a hot girl totally into me but still had some reservations. i got her all the way down to her panties (saw some bush) then she got shy again and wanted to stop. in the mood to get my friend his hook up and pretty sure this would go swell the next day i agreed (i'd got to feel some boob, touch her ass, pretty much everything said she was a hot number!).
we were pretty exhausted in general and day two we set out on our scuba that morning. to talk about it a minute, there are two shops next to the santa ana pier, both are good shops (we ended up using both) i did one for my scuba cert then the other on a day the first wasn't going we did a deep dive (thursday). the scuba, in general, was pretty good, but to hear my friend say it there wasn't much to see until the very last dive on thursday (when we saw plenty of little creatures in the shallow waters). my friend did say it was awesomely cheap, cheaper than anywhere he'd ever been to.
that night i headed around downtown, we had a date to meet up with the girls and take them to the island set up, and my friend headed off to chase more girls online. i should say my friend has a strategy different from *****mongering; he believes in wooing and getting as much as he can from the girls. he calls it the patient approach, to find girls into foreigners, pick them up, and then give them gifts, but apparently, because my friend is super cheap, this doesn't always work out. i think his strategy works much better in the country we were from, where he can speak the local language and has an edge over most foreigners.
the next night we met the girls on the island, they seemed decent and we chatted. we had dinner and took them back to the rooms. my girl acted very strange. i figure it's because here they're like super catholic or she was just super nervous but she didn't get at all into any of the passion. everything was bleh; she bathed me like a weird baby scene (kinda humilitating) , then she wouldn't let me touch her breasts or her body, she acted like a dead fish when i finally started giving her oral and it felt like i was almost [CodeWord125] her (no penetration, my sense of guilt stopped me from that). i gave up and asked her politely what was wrong, she basically said that she just wanted to sleep, which was weird. i don't know if i was pressuring her too hard, but i really got frustrated by this time. there ended up being a little annoying rage where i asked her to leave, she went over to ask her friend to go, whereupon my buddy came over to me and gave me this speech.
my buddy's speech went something like this;"look, man, it's our job to make these girls happy. it's a matter of leaving a good image with them." i was pretty stunned by his attitude; basically he was saying that the sex and all that wasn't important."you just have to be patient. you might get something, you might not get something. but if you wati long enough something might happen." then he gave me long discussion about how as a master of patience he was."these girls are nice girls, really christian, and you can't push them, you just be patient and you'll get them."
i sighed and went along with my buddy. i was nice to the girls and we had dinner with these nice people at the hotel; that turned out to be the best part, the discussion with the foreigners over food they had brought. great food, btw.
we went back to the rooms, ivy didn't even want to come into the same room with me (sigh) , and there i was sleeping alone in my room. my friend's room had ants, and for some reason when they transferred to another room there was a bunkbed so my friend ended up sleeping alone with the two girls together in th eupper bunkbed. actually, in my mind, i'd imagined my friend getting lucky with both of them because i'd thought he was the best guy with women. when i woke up and found out that i was just annoyed.
the next day, we ditched the girls and went scuba diving. when we got back, ivy wanted to meet but i was fed up with the whole situation and wanted to just move on to someone else. i spent that night going around downtown and checking out the street scene. it looks pretty bad in davao. there are many transexual bars. some of the ones suggested on this site seemed to be that way.
sorry if i can't remember the names, but i'll describe them; most of them near san pedro.
the first bar i went into was marked a gentlemen's club or something, the girls were really forceful and immediately demanded a lap dance. nobody was dancing on the stage, and there were three girls next to me all wanting me tob uy them drinks, one of them really pushy. i was pissed off and got up and left after two minutes and half a beer.
the second bar i went into i looked around and saw 5 tv's.
the third bar i went into, ditto.
needless to say as i walked around i started to get aggravated. another tv bar. maybe it's the gay area? i thought. i was frustrated and ended up going home.
the next day was nothing to do. my friend was pissed off with this city, as was i, and we tried to change our tickets to get out of the shithole that was davao. there was literally nothign to do, since scuba was not open that day and there was not very much to see in the area. malls, mainly. i ended up going around and just trying to do some work, lamely going to the malls and trying to pick up on girls without any success. we did meet our friend who lived in the area (he hadn't been answering phone calls the whole week and finalyl we got hold of him). he was basically friendly and showed us around, but seemed like he wanted to relax. that night was boring; i went to the gym to work out (i do lots of exercise) then when i got back i took my friend to several of the bars, my friend thought they were all shitty too.
the next day we went scuba again and this time was the best day (yay). we hanged around with my friend's family for lunch, pretty nice.
the next day my friend went scuba (i was pretty tired of it by this time) and i just tried to relax around the malls and stuff. not very easy since i was kinda bored, but i did manage to do some work. i should have gone to the beach but it would have taken an incredibly unpredictable ferry ride if so. but i did go ot the gym at least.
finally we got out of davao the next day.
basically the girls in davao are super conservative, almost all christian, won't really approach you or talk with you. seems very catholic. friendly but won't go to any degree with oyu, too much work. the city itself is a messed up landscape. there are the crappy places around most of the town (some of which are incredibly stinky and depressing) , the armed guards with shotguns and machineguns everywhere (very safe but intimidating) , the superfluous malls (there's 3 malls all incredibly close to each other and a 4th one being constructed for no real purpose i can tell). there's no real places to hang out and relax, everything closes incredibly early it seems, and basically, as my friend said,"let's get the hell out of here".
i ended up on the flight back to manilla (never could change the ticket fligth date) and instead of taking the connecting flight to my home i hopped off and spent a few days in angeles city, where i found a much better reception (but still not that noteworthy in terms of satisfaction).
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01-24-12 13:17 #2616I was about to reply with a figure of at least 25, 000 php per month and GE has now corroborated my guesstimate with a well-sourced break-down of actual costs (and he speaks with authority on costs etc for elementary schooling). Originally Posted by GoodEnough
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I suggest that Chocha's figure of $200 per month is a baseline amount. Use GE's figures if you want accuracy.
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01-24-12 11:49 #2615Establishing a reasonable cost basis requires that you consider first how you want your child to be raised. If you want to support him at the level of the solidly middle class, your cost is going to be between $400 and $500 a month, and believe me when I say I know whereof I speak. A decent apartment in a safe area is going to rent for about Php5, 000, and that's unfurnished, with no air-conditioning, so you've got to factor in the cost of furniture as well. Then of course there are the costs of utilities, food, transportation. Clothes (for the mother and the baby) , which will eat another $200-$250. Finally, you're going to incur the cost of a decent private school, which will cost you about Php4, 000 a month exclusive of books and "special" fees. Another potential cost-and this is if the mother is going to continue working-is a nanny (yaya) for the baby. Of course if the latter role is played by a family member, you will run into extra food costs. This estimate does not include the cost of entertainment, birthdays, other gift-giving holidays, and medical bills. Originally Posted by WhatsUrName
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GE
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01-24-12 08:40 #2614Well, you can start with $200 monthly but that will hardly cover the carabao milk. I am sure the girl and her family will let you know how much is appropriate plus emergency expenses for doctors, medicine, etc. Originally Posted by WhatsUrName
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01-24-12 00:54 #2613Wow 14 or 15 kids? That's amazing. Originally Posted by Barba
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I have a question. How much is "reasonable" child support in the Philippines? Suppose, theoretically, that I were to get a woman from Davao City pregnant. For the sake of discussion, suppose she is 25 and works as a waittress in a normal bar in a Mall. Assume she comes from a lower to middle class family.
Suppose further that I want to "do the right thing" by the child and legally acknowledge the child as mine. If it matters, assume the Nationality of the father is American.
What would be a reasonable amount for child support in the Philippines per month? Assume Davao City. I would not have a problem spending money on the child's education, as long as I know that it is being spent properly. Assume I would get verfication of any education expenses.
I would think that $200 USD a month base support plus xtra for schooling should be more than enough for his support? I have no idea. What is reasonable? What would a Davao City Family Judge make me pay if I lived there?
Thanks
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01-23-12 03:51 #2612Hehe. Yea, better stick to Dick. Originally Posted by Red Kilt
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Mitch (Samuel L Jackson) in The Long Kiss Goodnight puts it well:
"I'm always frank and earnest with women. Uh, in New York I'm Frank, and Chicago I'm Ernest."
LOL.
Another quote from that movie reminds me of my air-con during my last visit to MyHotel in Davao. It sounded like a steam locomotive was parked next to my bed, and the darn machine provided nothing but wind.
Mitch: "So, you cold?"
Charlie: "Yeah. Freezing."
Mitch: "Turn on the heat. It doesn't work, but it makes a very annoying noise. Distracts from the cold."
Barba.
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01-23-12 03:26 #2611
Ickywicky, thank you for your honest report. The area around San Pedro is not a LB area. It is just shitty. Period.
I have tried to communicate a reality check on Davao here on ISG, and I think your experience is quite a common one. You are absolutely correct in most of your observations and yes, Davao is a little shit hole in many aspects. It is not the place to just visit a few days and have massive amounts of fun. It is time consuming and requires planning and preparation. Things are cheap in Davao, but over all the value is crap if you compare to how much bang you get for the buck (including food, fanny, outdoor activities, party, etc). As GE once said about a friend of mine coming in from Thailand: "I can't see one single reason for him to go to Davao, if he lives in Thailand".
Now I normally have a decent time in between work when I am in Davao, but I prepare well and have a solid base of providers. If I did not have to go for work, I would pick another place for short visits. Retirement in the sun is another story, and I think this life is often confused with the possibilities during a quick in and out visits, when Davao is discussed here on ISG. There are thousands of girls in Davao, but they are not parading around just waiting for the next foreigner to barfine them.
Your friend is totally wrong in adopting this strategy during your short visit. What is often a slow process in Davao even for a well greased monger, will turn into an endless amount of hold hand meetings, dinners and karaoke evenings with that "you should make the girl feel good"-approach. If you go into the traditional "man should impress an deserve woman"-game in Davao, you are in for a long haul. These religious pinoy boys have the patience to wait for their little angel for years and years. I have tried and failed. Now I can identify these girl within minutes and either take the short cut via a convincing wad of pesos or just walk on to the next girl.
That bath scene sounds totally absurd. Some sort of projection of her desire to have a child? Tell us more.
I am sorry your trip turned out the way it did and that non of the girls I sent contact data to where willing or able to accommodate you.
Did you see any large fishes, worth catching on a rod?
Barba
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