Makati

[Goferring]

Thanks to senior member help. I got good experience in LA Cafe. But I am now in Cafe Havana at 7 pm few girls here. No one blink to me. Seems no FL here. Too early?

Not too early to make use of their free wifi to jump on Tinder or WeChat and have them come to you. 😁.

Your going to be waiting a loooong time for any FL of quality to turn up at Havan Cafe and the prices asked are 2 x what an online girl will want.

[KrisMonger]

Giving back to the forum here. Trip was about two weeks ago. Day 1 - felt like I wanted to try some model types. Didn't want to hunt. Used smooci to get Rachel from naughty Philippino. First about smooci. Pretty smooth process for booking. They do a quick call back to validate and then you are good to go. Since it was a weekend and it was daytime. Rachel arrived pretty much on time. She is mentioned in the website as a mix of Filipino and American. Not sure I saw much BTW of Cacausian in her. The photos are definitely photoshopped to make her look less asian. She also carried a 9500 peso tag for couple of hours (so slight gamble. Given the high price). She was very sweet to connect with though and was very service and satisfaction centric through the session. Tight body, man made top and pretty pleasant down there. Had a great time with her. For me the price was alright and it may be next time I may just sign her up for longer time as that becomes less expensive.

Kris.

[SaltyPete]

(Soap box: on).

I am not in the medical field so take my assertions with a grain of salt.

First, guys can be latent carriers for STDs (non-symptomatic). Many of these diseases are more damaging to females than males (especially pertaining to fertility and childbirth). Don't walk around fat, dumb and infected.

Google asymptomatic STDs.

Also, there are three main types of HIV tests: antibody tests, RNA (viral load) tests, and a combination test that detects both antibodies and viral protein called p24 (antibody-antigen test, or HIV Ab-Ag test). The last two types actually check for the presence of the virus. The antibody test checks for presence of antibodies to the virus (which may take up to 6 months to develop). As a side note, during that 6-month period you are much more likely to pass on the virus since it isn't being suppressed by antibodies (I. E there is more live virus in body fluids.). Be sure to inquire which test is administered, or be proactive and insist on the RNA test or HIV Ab-Ag test.

Google HIV Tests and accuracy of results.

I am not sure what "incubation period" meant. But the incubation period from contracting the HIV virus to "Full Blown AIDS" is about 10 years. Obviously, you can still spread it before getting AIDS.

Ignorance is not bliss when is comes to STDs. I think we, being better educated and from richer countries with better healthcare, need to take responsibility for minimizing the chances of transmission, especially to those who do not have the means to afford treatment.

(Soap box: off).

[PeacefulRunner]

Thanks to senior member help. I got good experience in LA Cafe. But I am now in Cafe Havana at 7 pm few girls here. No one blink to me. Seems no FL here. Too early?

[VictorHugo99]

Hi Albert,

I have to agree with Kabul guy that it will be premature to try HIV test, taking note of the incubation period of about 5 months for the HIV virus.

It might make your "tour" experience too bloody stressful, big minus on experiences. '.

For STDs, tests are not even necessary since severe pain during [CodeWord112] is a pretty straightforward tell-tale sign.

Hope the info helps, Vic.

[Kabul Guy]

I personally don't know about pharmacy over the counter hiv tests. Bettter to be safe and bring them yourself. Then you can find out if they available here and the cost for next time.

You will be about 300 or 400 for the Dr visit and just a little over 1000 or so for the test.

You will also have to talk to a nurse about the risks of HIV etc.

Also it can take up to 6 months for a positive test result to show. You can be infectious before the test results are in.

[Sidtip]

Many of the bars in Burgos are owned by the same consortium. On my first trip, I too wondered about the logic and economics of running a business where no one was barfining and no one was lowering the prices. The land around Makati is incredibly expensive. Surely the owners could demolish the bars and build office towers, condos and shops and generate a lot more revenue and profit?

But if you scratch the surface, you will understand that their main business is not girls at all. They are smarter than you might give them credit for.

The girls do okay. They get a daily salary, plus make commission off lady drinks. In a place like Plan be or Kojax, that can amount to a lot when the place is buzzing. They can also get good tips by blowing guys in the back booths. The hot looking girls will pick up regular bar fines, plus have the chance of securing a sponsor. In any case, most girls don't stay in the bar business for more than a few months as the lifestyle is too gruelling. It also fucks with their minds and they get ill very often.

Filling station, hotel Ballagio, the Mexican place on the corner, shampoo and at least one other girlie bar is owned by the same owner but I still don't see how the clubs make much.

[SaltyPete]

Lots of maybe's is what I am saying. Nothing to make assumptions on. "he was one of her first customers" doesn't mean anything. The only fact is what he said he paid her and he was happy with it.

What I think or what anyone else thinks about it doesnt matter.

Btw, my comments are nothing personal at you SP.

No offense taken, DG. I like to think that I am generous (and I probably end up paying more than most guys), but I hate being ripped off.

[Dg8787]

Hi,

I plan to be in Phil during January but I would like to have 2 or 4 HIV self tests with me there.

I have checked here, in France, they cost about 28 euros in pharmacy or about 18 euros on internet.

I understand from RTFF here that we can buy them on the ground there for may be lower cost?

What would your advice? Should I buy them when I will arrive? In pharmacies? Or where can we find them?

And are they easy to be found everywhere or mainly in Manila? I can have one night stop in Makati when I arrive? Or airport?

I personally don't know about pharmacy over the counter hiv tests. Bettter to be safe and bring them yourself. Then you can find out if they available here and the cost for next time.

[Albert9989]

Hi,

I plan to be in Phil during January but I would like to have 2 or 4 HIV self tests with me there.

I have checked here, in France, they cost about 28 euros in pharmacy or about 18 euros on internet.

I understand from RTFF here that we can buy them on the ground there for may be lower cost?

What would your advice? Should I buy them when I will arrive? In pharmacies? Or where can we find them?

And are they easy to be found everywhere or mainly in Manila? I can have one night stop in Makati when I arrive? Or airport?

[Dg8787]

We are going around in circles here. The OP opined that he was one of her first customers, and that she hadn't just set-up shop. Do you think 6000 is market price for an upper 30s girl with 3 kids?

I suppose there is a market for an '86 Honda Accord. Some guys like a high mileage, well-worn interior with that musty old-car smell, even if newer models are available for a third of the price. And there is value in the convenience of "point and click" shopping where it is delivered to your front door. Who knows, maybe it was rainy that day and the buyer preferred not to go out and inspect cars first-hand? Or maybe he didn't know where the new car lots were located and it wasn't worth his time researching it.

But both parties were happy with the transaction, and that's what matters - even if she would have let him have it for $2000 instead of $6000.

Lots of maybe's is what I am saying. Nothing to make assumptions on. "he was one of her first customers" doesn't mean anything. The only fact is what he said he paid her and he was happy with it.

What I think or what anyone else thinks about it doesnt matter.

Btw, my comments are nothing personal at you SP.

[SaltyPete]

You assume she doesn't have many customers and have priced herself out of the market.

We are going around in circles here. The OP opined that he was one of her first customers, and that she hadn't just set-up shop. Do you think 6000 is market price for an upper 30s girl with 3 kids?

I suppose there is a market for an '86 Honda Accord. Some guys like a high mileage, well-worn interior with that musty old-car smell, even if newer models are available for a third of the price. And there is value in the convenience of "point and click" shopping where it is delivered to your front door. Who knows, maybe it was rainy that day and the buyer preferred not to go out and inspect cars first-hand? Or maybe he didn't know where the new car lots were located and it wasn't worth his time researching it.

But both parties were happy with the transaction, and that's what matters - even if she would have let him have it for $2000 instead of $6000.

[Dg8787]

True! I was merely trying to explain why she didn't have many customers. She is pricing herself out of the market. But if a woman in her late 30's with three kids can occasionally get 6 K, then more power to her. Live and let live!

You assume she doesn't have many customers and have priced herself out of the market.

[The Cane]

I will be your first case. If I am ever paying for something that I could have or should have gotten cheaper then let me know. I am all ears. For me it sucks when I buy something and find out later I could have gotten it cheaper. But isn't it only pussy that does this to guys? If you tell them they could have gone on hotels.com to get the room cheaper instead of going to the hotel's website, then nobody gets mad and says it is nobody's business how much I give the Hilton. They just try the cheaper website the next time.

It has to do with the fact that the nature of the criticism is different. When a guy overpays for pussy, the criticism is often not "constructive" but more "angry" or laced with "ridicule" in that other mongers accuse the overpaying one of driving up the cost of pussy for everybody. Whereas, when it comes to the price of a hotel room, those who are getting the lower rate on the cheaper website don't get angry with the overpayer because they don't perceive that the former is costing them any money. They continue to believe that regardless of what the other guy is paying, they will still be able to get the same room at a lower price, and that the hotel isn't going to start yanking lower priced rooms from the low cost website because some guys are out there paying more by going directly to the hotel's individual site. In other words, unlike with the cost of pussy (and rightly or wrongly I don't know), no connection is made between what the guy overpaying for a hotel room is charged versus what another monger can get the same room for. The consequence is an extra dose of vitriol when it comes to allegedly overpaying for the pussy, and thus the often defensive and / or angry reaction of the overpayer. Every action yields an equal and opposite reaction LOL!

[SaltyPete]

I might have paid it under certain circumstances. And it would be none of anyones business.

True! I was merely trying to explain why she didn't have many customers. She is pricing herself out of the market. But if a woman in her late 30's with three kids can occasionally get 6 K, then more power to her. Live and let live!