Makati

[Simmer]

You're right, but airfare depends where you're traveling from. I just checked on roundtrip airfare for one month from now (July 27), from where I am in the states to Frankfurt and to Manila, respectively, returning 15 days after departure. Frankfurt $2166; Manila $1842; so $324 cheaper to Manila. Assuming each stays in their respective pussy heavens for 14 days, Steel Baton gets 14 overnighters for $784. If Turgid goes 14 successive days to a German FKK, he gets fourteen 40 minute clock-watched sessions for $2450.

Assuming the poster lives in Germany or thereabouts, airfare to the Philippines should be under $1000 unless you manage to go at the worst times of year. When I lived in the UK I paid far less than $1000 to get to the Philippines. In fact, where I am in the US is also under $1000 for a direct, non-stop PAL flight to Manila, again if you avoid peak times (I think it was $850 for my trip next month).

But anyway, yes I agree, once you've racked up a few girls in the Philippines, the cost of the flight starts to cancel out. And I'd rather a hot Asian (or Latino) than a fellow European.

[Soapy Smith]

To be fair you did not add the $USD1,000 for the airfare?

You're right, but airfare depends where you're traveling from. I just checked on roundtrip airfare for one month from now (July 27), from where I am in the states to Frankfurt and to Manila, respectively, returning 15 days after departure. Frankfurt $2166; Manila $1842; so $324 cheaper to Manila. Assuming each stays in their respective pussy heavens for 14 days, Steel Baton gets 14 overnighters for $784. If Turgid goes 14 successive days to a German FKK, he gets fourteen 40 minute clock-watched sessions for $2450. Does Germany still have streetwalkers on the Kaiserstrasse in Frankfurt?

Maybe German lodging, food, and ground transportation are cheaper. Obviously not, but Germany does have better beer choices and more interesting cuisine--at higher prices.

[Breadman]

Curious, why? I prefer computer use over tablet / cell, but unless your cell phone is one of the tiny models, editing is the same (just using fingers instead of a mouse or touchpad).

Number one reason I can think of is you don't want to have your nice smart phone out in public for it to be snatched from your fingers.

[WestCoast1]

If he's on a cell phone its almost impossible to edit out the quote.

Curious, why? I prefer computer use over tablet / cell, but unless your cell phone is one of the tiny models, editing is the same (just using fingers instead of a mouse or touchpad).

[Breadman]

T, I wish you hadn't reposted the entire quote from SB's post, but your comparison and conclusion make sense.

If he's on a cell phone its almost impossible to edit out the quote.

[Sly One]

T, I wish you hadn't reposted the entire quote from SB's post, but your comparison and conclusion make sense.

To be fair you did not add the $USD1,000 for the airfare?

[Soapy Smith]

There you are paying US $56 for all night with a hot young Filipina while I'm at an FKK in Germany paying $175 for 40 minutes with a lethargic clock watching Romanian. Life ain't fair.

T, I wish you hadn't reposted the entire quote from SB's post, but your comparison and conclusion make sense.

[Turgid]

I found myself near Burgos street in Makati on Monday last week around 5:30 pm in the sweltering heat and figured I would grab a cold beer and cool off as well as scout the area for a return visit later that evening. I stepped into a club on the corner of Burgos and Badajos, near Kojax, might have been called Bourbon Street. At 6:00 pm the club had over 20 women and maybe 4 guys. I grabbed a San Miguel for 80 pesos and enjoyed the air con while looking over the talent. Most of the women were chunky mommas but there might have been 4 or 5 that had nice bodies or at least nice enough that they didn't hide their bellies behind lingerie. They were friendly as most Pinays are but nothing grabbed my interest and I left.

I walked down Burgos to Bottoms which several members had suggested might have top-quality but expensive girls. As I was about to enter the bar 3 slim girls standing in front of Plan "B" caught my eye and began waving and smiling. This looked promising considering it was still daylight out. With a little more eye contact from me they crossed the street and I picked the cutest of the 3. She was 22 and slim with nice breasts, but admitted to having a 3-year-old at home. She seemed a bit depressed. She asked if I wanted to go with her. I said "no, but give me your number and maybe later" she punched her number into my phone. (I had got a free Global SIM at the airport so I didn't worry about giving her my number).

Bottoms opens at 2:00 pm and closes at 5:00 am so by 6:30 pm there were 20-25 women and again almost no mongers. Again, the San Miguel was 80 pesos, the music wasn't too loud and I relaxed and looked over the collection. Wow, if this is one of the best in Makati, I was disappointed. Almost without exception the women were fat and fully covered mommies. There was one cute thing with a glorious pair of tits peeking out of a cropped tee-shirt -the design where the lower half of her full firm "C+" breasts hung out and jiggled as she walked by. Very nice ass on that one as well, but a face for radio or a dark night. So, I left after about 30 minutes. The mamasan at the entrance said bar fine before 7:00 pm was 2,500 or 2,800 (US $45-$52) and the girl's tip would need to be 2,000+ ($37). That's all in about $80-$90 for full sex. There wasn't a single girl in there at that time who was worth that in my opinion. After 7:00 pm the bar fine goes to over 3,000, maybe 3,500?

I had some other business and during my meetings I entertained myself by sexting with the streetwalker. She offered fully sex, blowjob, massage, for 2,500 (US $45), I said no too expensive. She immediately came down to 2,000. We messaged a bit more with her growing increasingly hopeful, even begging me to take her. I guess it was a slow night on the street.

I returned to Burgos around 10:00 pm and made my way into Kojax (opens at 7:00 pm). Now, here were the best women I have even seen in the PI's. At least a dozen single 18-21-year-olds with firm bodies and no kids, plus another 10 who would be fit and good-looking MILFs under the age of 26 and 15 or so who were a bit chubby and had the bodies to show a few kids some big droopy tits if you are into that sort of thing. Again, not many guys, maybe only 5-6. The mamasan immediately was at my side suggesting some women for me. Hearing my desire for single girls with no kids, she brought over two first-night-girls. They were both 19 and genuinely seemed to have no idea how the whole ladies drink thing worked. They had to be forced to choose a drink and sipped them so slowly, that I do believe this was their first night. Both were sweet girls with tight young bodies, beautiful skin, nice faces. They sat on either side of me and I stroked their bodies, squeezed their asses and had a couple of beers while they each had 2 lady's drinks. They each told me their whole sexual life experiences, which didn't take very long. One had an Australian boyfriend who took her flower at 17 and then banged her weekly for about 9 months luckily lad. She seemed sold on the big white dicks idea and hoped to marry a guy like that she said. The other one had only had one Filipino boyfriend and few arranged dates for money. I asked if they would want to come home and play with me or if they would rather stay. They both said they wanted to make money. I casually said that normally I would pay 2,000 each. They thought that was fine. But, I really didn't want to take them given the bar fine was another 3,500, I still texting with my streetwalker, and frankly had probably had a few too many drinks to take full advantage of an inexperienced 19-year-old. So, I tipped them 500 each and left the bar to find her. Conclusion: Kojax is great, music at a volume that allows conversation, some true 9's and I would defiantly go back when I was feeling fresh.

As I stood outside trying to connect with the streetwalker, I spotted another slim hot looking thing with a short skirt and nice legs. Upon investigation she was very interested and said 1000 for everything. This confirmed my suspicion that she was a he. I've never walked that path but she almost had me convinced to give it a try looked damn hot and from 6 feet away I think most of you blokes would have agreed. Small hands, thin neck, big eyes, full lips, heart shaped face but unfortunately a tiny little dick somewhere...

Finally, the streetwalker showed up and I told her I wanted her to stay the night. She agreed and I took her back to my hotel around 12:30. Once there I carefully locked away everything of value and we began to play a bit. Unfortunately, she played the shy game and wanted all the lights out before she would undress, I said no way, she eventually went to the shower and showered and came out wrapped modestly in a towel. She then said that she couldn't stay all night and put up a little fuss about that. I said "Well, here's 100 pesos for a taxi or you can stay all night for 2,000" She begged me for more money for overnight, which I refused and finally she reluctantly agreed. It wasn't the finest sex but she gave the best blowjob I have had all year and her pussy was tight as hell since she had had Cesare for her boy's birth bit of a nasty scar which she was embarrassed about. Not really the GFE experience I was hoping for but a warm young female body to sleep with is generally a good thing. In the end I gave her a 1000 peso tip bring her take home pay to 3,000 (US $56) plus two toothbrushes, a comb, a can of Fanta, and a bedside chocolate.

There you are paying US $56 for all night with a hot young Filipina while I'm at an FKK in Germany paying $175 for 40 minutes with a lethargic clock watching Romanian. Life ain't fair.

[SteelBaton]

I found myself near Burgos street in Makati on Monday last week around 5:30 pm in the sweltering heat and figured I would grab a cold beer and cool off as well as scout the area for a return visit later that evening. I stepped into a club on the corner of Burgos and Badajos, near Kojax, might have been called Bourbon Street. At 6:00 pm the club had over 20 women and maybe 4 guys. I grabbed a San Miguel for 80 pesos and enjoyed the air con while looking over the talent. Most of the women were chunky mommas but there might have been 4 or 5 that had nice bodies or at least nice enough that they didn't hide their bellies behind lingerie. They were friendly as most Pinays are but nothing grabbed my interest and I left.

I walked down Burgos to Bottoms which several members had suggested might have top-quality but expensive girls. As I was about to enter the bar 3 slim girls standing in front of Plan "B" caught my eye and began waving and smiling. This looked promising considering it was still daylight out. With a little more eye contact from me they crossed the street and I picked the cutest of the 3. She was 22 and slim with nice breasts, but admitted to having a 3-year-old at home. She seemed a bit depressed. She asked if I wanted to go with her. I said "no, but give me your number and maybe later" she punched her number into my phone. (I had got a free Global SIM at the airport so I didn't worry about giving her my number).

Bottoms opens at 2:00 pm and closes at 5:00 am so by 6:30 pm there were 20-25 women and again almost no mongers. Again, the San Miguel was 80 pesos, the music wasn't too loud and I relaxed and looked over the collection. Wow, if this is one of the best in Makati, I was disappointed. Almost without exception the women were fat and fully covered mommies. There was one cute thing with a glorious pair of tits peeking out of a cropped tee-shirt -the design where the lower half of her full firm "C+" breasts hung out and jiggled as she walked by. Very nice ass on that one as well, but a face for radio or a dark night. So, I left after about 30 minutes. The mamasan at the entrance said bar fine before 7:00 pm was 2,500 or 2,800 (US $45-$52) and the girl's tip would need to be 2,000+ ($37). That's all in about $80-$90 for full sex. There wasn't a single girl in there at that time who was worth that in my opinion. After 7:00 pm the bar fine goes to over 3,000, maybe 3,500?

I had some other business and during my meetings I entertained myself by sexting with the streetwalker. She offered fully sex, blowjob, massage, for 2,500 (US $45), I said no too expensive. She immediately came down to 2,000. We messaged a bit more with her growing increasingly hopeful, even begging me to take her. I guess it was a slow night on the street.

I returned to Burgos around 10:00 pm and made my way into Kojax (opens at 7:00 pm). Now, here were the best women I have even seen in the PI's. At least a dozen single 18-21-year-olds with firm bodies and no kids, plus another 10 who would be fit and good-looking MILFs under the age of 26 and 15 or so who were a bit chubby and had the bodies to show a few kids some big droopy tits if you are into that sort of thing. Again, not many guys, maybe only 5-6. The mamasan immediately was at my side suggesting some women for me. Hearing my desire for single girls with no kids, she brought over two first-night-girls. They were both 19 and genuinely seemed to have no idea how the whole ladies drink thing worked. They had to be forced to choose a drink and sipped them so slowly, that I do believe this was their first night. Both were sweet girls with tight young bodies, beautiful skin, nice faces. They sat on either side of me and I stroked their bodies, squeezed their asses and had a couple of beers while they each had 2 lady's drinks. They each told me their whole sexual life experiences, which didn't take very long. One had an Australian boyfriend who took her flower at 17 and then banged her weekly for about 9 months luckily lad. She seemed sold on the big white dicks idea and hoped to marry a guy like that she said. The other one had only had one Filipino boyfriend and few arranged dates for money. I asked if they would want to come home and play with me or if they would rather stay. They both said they wanted to make money. I casually said that normally I would pay 2,000 each. They thought that was fine. But, I really didn't want to take them given the bar fine was another 3,500, I still texting with my streetwalker, and frankly had probably had a few too many drinks to take full advantage of an inexperienced 19-year-old. So, I tipped them 500 each and left the bar to find her. Conclusion: Kojax is great, music at a volume that allows conversation, some true 9's and I would defiantly go back when I was feeling fresh.

As I stood outside trying to connect with the streetwalker, I spotted another slim hot looking thing with a short skirt and nice legs. Upon investigation she was very interested and said 1000 for everything. This confirmed my suspicion that she was a he. I've never walked that path but she almost had me convinced to give it a try looked damn hot and from 6 feet away I think most of you blokes would have agreed. Small hands, thin neck, big eyes, full lips, heart shaped face but unfortunately a tiny little dick somewhere...

Finally, the streetwalker showed up and I told her I wanted her to stay the night. She agreed and I took her back to my hotel around 12:30. Once there I carefully locked away everything of value and we began to play a bit. Unfortunately, she played the shy game and wanted all the lights out before she would undress, I said no way, she eventually went to the shower and showered and came out wrapped modestly in a towel. She then said that she couldn't stay all night and put up a little fuss about that. I said "Well, here's 100 pesos for a taxi or you can stay all night for 2,000" She begged me for more money for overnight, which I refused and finally she reluctantly agreed. It wasn't the finest sex but she gave the best blowjob I have had all year and her pussy was tight as hell since she had had Cesare for her boy's birth bit of a nasty scar which she was embarrassed about. Not really the GFE experience I was hoping for but a warm young female body to sleep with is generally a good thing. In the end I gave her a 1000 peso tip bring her take home pay to 3,000 (US $56) plus two toothbrushes, a comb, a can of Fanta, and a bedside chocolate.

[MSpitz]

1st post here.

Traveling to the PI in about a month. Looking for some advice regarding Spas vs MP. Heard Spas are like MP in California where he is the norm. What about other things short of FS, E. G. UTC touching. MP in PI seem more straight forward but rushed and further away from where I'm staying BGC. TIA!

[Bushes]

FWIW, the bars / clubs do play loud music or music younger generations like to listen and to grind. Has been the same for generations. From LV to Makati, I go to those places because of girls the music attracts. Sometimes an assault to the senses and mind, but it brings the pussy closer to me.

[Kabul Guy]

I've always been at that age......

Me too, I was never into the bar scene. Why pay 2 x or 3 x for a beer and have to shout to be heard? Look around, not very many people are really looking like they are having fun.

I quit smoking in my late teen age years and after that totally quit the bars because of the smoke and noise. (In Canada drinking age was 18 since long before I came of age to drink.) Since I was still a student then, I really could not afford the bars that much anyway.

I do all my hunting on line. PL, SA, WeChat, Tinder and believe it or not some luck on Craigslist. I get laid just about daily without nearly as much expense and hassle as people report paying for bar fines, tips, lady drinks etc.

[MadisonGuy]

I'm at an age at which I cannot last more than 10 or 15 minutes in a Burgos bar since the loud crap they play as music makes me want to run out screaming in aural pain not long after I enter. So I typically make a very quick choice and I'm out the door.

GE.

I've always been at that age. Manila Cafe is more my style but I've never found any stunners there before. Hoping it changes this time, otherwise probably be in angels most my free time. You'the think the hot girls would free lance more often.

[GoodEnough]

I too an older than 62. Much older actually but in good shape. I'm at that one pop is all stage, LOL. I was texting with a 44 year old Pinay on DIA and told her we could meet and have a fun date. She replied "what you mean fun" I Never heard from her again. Guess not all older DIA girls are looking for mongers. Fun means sex I suppose.

I'm at an age at which I cannot last more than 10 or 15 minutes in a Burgos bar since the loud crap they play as music makes me want to run out screaming in aural pain not long after I enter. So I typically make a very quick choice and I'm out the door.

GE.

[ForkTruck]

I'm with you. I'm older than you, now weigh the same as I did when I was a student, and always dress decently. I rarely have any issues.

GE.

I too an older than 62. Much older actually but in good shape. I'm at that one pop is all stage, LOL. I was texting with a 44 year old Pinay on DIA and told her we could meet and have a fun date. She replied "what you mean fun" I Never heard from her again. Guess not all older DIA girls are looking for mongers. Fun means sex I suppose.